October 15, 2012
— Ace Short version: It's a bitch and a half.
He'd have to win Florida, NC, and Virginia. He leads there.
He'd then have to win New Hampshire and Colorado. He barely leads there.
We assume he wins Indiana -- a state that went for Obama in 2008 but isn't considered competitive anymore.
He'd then have to win either Wisconsin -- where he actually doesn't lead -- or both Nevada and Iowa. Nevada seems doable, but Iowa is such a bluish state it's barely a swing state.
That, or he'd have to Go Big and swipe Michigan or Pennsylvania.
I'm thinking it's time to Go Big and make a play for those states.
Chuck Todd, though, mentions "private data" showing a "structural shift" making Romney the favorite.
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Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 15, 2012 09:50 AM (QQcJv)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 09:50 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 15, 2012 09:50 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 09:50 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 09:51 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: NC Ref at October 15, 2012 09:52 AM (dVJLS)
Posted by: Jaws at October 15, 2012 09:52 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Sho Nuff at October 15, 2012 09:53 AM (jo0fs)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 09:53 AM (AZGON)
Now, it's not just a win, but a positive curb-stomp.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 09:53 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 09:53 AM (UZQM8)
And I live there.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 01:53 PM (AZGON)
Me too, and I agree.
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 09:54 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 15, 2012 09:54 AM (FZnrK)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 09:54 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 15, 2012 09:54 AM (QQcJv)
Uh, he's tied in an ARG Iowa poll today. And up 4 with indies. Iowa is VERY winnable.
Posted by: Waingro at October 15, 2012 09:54 AM (uAytX)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 09:54 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Soona at October 15, 2012 09:55 AM (yuyki)
@AllenG,
Eh, part of me wants to believe people are just trying to make sure we don't become complacent. (Of course I'm still more than slightly worried.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 09:55 AM (uuKDm)
So instead of putting his limited resources into Ohio, where he's down by an average of less than 2 points (and where 5 of the last 8 polls have him either down by only 1 point, or ahead), he should put it into states where he's down by an average of 4-5 points?
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at October 15, 2012 09:55 AM (YN0YA)
The best reason to think that Romney will win is because he wants to... but maybe that's just me engaging in wishful thinking. No telling what That Guy and his crew will try to pull off to win this. Otherwise it'll be years of "Barry!!!" this and "Barry!!!" that from a certain annoying spouse.
Posted by: mallfly at October 15, 2012 09:55 AM (bJm7W)
"Also, why are people so pessimistic about Ohio? Are they somehow not affected by through-the-roof unemployment, and soaring energy prices?"
Obama fo's. Romney suck!
Posted by: Jaws at October 15, 2012 09:56 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 09:57 AM (9+ccr)
With so many of the MoronHorde living in California...you'd think there'd be a way to take it back from the brink of lunacy.
Yep, I'm in SoCal too.
Posted by: USMC8541 at October 15, 2012 09:57 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 15, 2012 09:57 AM (JWLqy)
Posted by: Mo the Girl at October 15, 2012 09:57 AM (XMS/L)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2012 09:58 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: tasker at October 15, 2012 09:58 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Tom Hanks at October 15, 2012 09:58 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 15, 2012 09:58 AM (QQcJv)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 15, 2012 09:59 AM (FZnrK)
Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2012 09:59 AM (fWAjv)
Yep, I'm in SoCal too.
Posted by: USMC8541 at October 15, 2012 01:57 PM (v3pYe)
NorCal here and no. Too many loons. Sad thing is the majority of the Counties vote Rep. Unfortunately the big Dem areas are the heavily populated ones.
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 09:59 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: I Can;t Believe It's a Gergle at October 15, 2012 09:59 AM (V/U0X)
14 Clownifornia is going to be the death of this republic. It's the lymphatic cancer of states.
---
Lex Luthor had the right idea. Just not enough missiles
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 15, 2012 09:59 AM (SO2Q8)
Somewhat off-topic, but it looks like the GOP-E's attempt to sabotage Todd Akin's campaign and letthe Democrats keep the seat is failing:
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at October 15, 2012 10:00 AM (+inic)
Posted by: BignJames at October 15, 2012 10:00 AM (rlFQ+)
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 15, 2012 10:00 AM (OKdaZ)
http://tinyurl.com/b3cdol
What about another dog post?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:00 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:00 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: volfan at October 15, 2012 10:00 AM (RTb48)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:01 AM (V/U0X)
I'm not buying it and am having faith in America and it's citizens will overcome tyranny and vote this communist loser asshole out to save the republic.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 15, 2012 10:01 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Jaws at October 15, 2012 10:01 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: tasker at October 15, 2012 10:01 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:02 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: BignJames at October 15, 2012 02:00 PM (rlFQ+)
You must be REALLY new!
Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Miserable Failure.
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 10:02 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2012 10:03 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: The MFM at October 15, 2012 10:03 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: BignJames at October 15, 2012 02:00 PM (rlFQ+)
You must be REALLY new!
Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Miserable Failure.
And so you don't have to ask, TFG is that fucking guy...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:03 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 02:02 PM (X6akg)
In fairness, the Moron horde does have quite a few inside jokes (at least that one's googable)
When you start getting into really obscure things (Pudding!) that's when the new people start gettign scared (I speak from experience.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 10:04 AM (uuKDm)
Posted by: small town girl at October 15, 2012 10:04 AM (Y121R)
Posted by: IC at October 15, 2012 10:05 AM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Truman North at October 15, 2012 10:05 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2012 10:05 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:05 AM (V/U0X)
It means, "We're finally seeing numbers based on reality. Sort of."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 10:05 AM (8y9MW)
ARG Iowa Poll: R 48% 0 48%
The Party ID is D +1 (Dem 35, Rep 34, Ind 31) versus D +1 (Dem 34, Rep 33, Ind 33) in 2008 and R +2 (Dem 34, Rep 36, Ind 30) in 2004.
Posted by: Jay at October 15, 2012 10:06 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: The chicken and charlie Gibson at October 15, 2012 02:05 PM (OWjjx)
And get off my lawn...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:06 AM (9+ccr)
Is it just me or is the worst year for polls? Maybe I don't remember ,but were they always so screwy?
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 01:57 PM (9+ccr)
I think it is just that we have the means to talk about the polls without the MSM saying, "That's interesting, now SHUT UP!"
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 15, 2012 10:06 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:06 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:06 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 15, 2012 10:06 AM (F/U0V)
The longer Mitt leads nationally, the more despondent they will become and the fewer of them will vote.
Every MFer who is going to vote for Mitt is going to vote for Mitt come hell or high water.
The more people see Mitt, unfiltered from the MSM, the better he is going to do.
I predict Barry will cancel the last debate.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:07 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: SH at October 15, 2012 10:07 AM (gmeXX)
That's the kind of dream that leaves embarrassing evidence. I can just imagine the liberal's heads exploding if that happened.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 10:07 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: pep at October 15, 2012 10:08 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:08 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: The chicken and charlie Gibson at October 15, 2012 02:05 PM (OWjjx)
Random, inane non-sequitur, possibly involving an insult to a Moronette or a link to ghey pr0n.
Posted by: catpiss troll at October 15, 2012 10:09 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 15, 2012 10:09 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:09 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 10:10 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:10 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: tasker at October 15, 2012 10:10 AM (r2PLg)
As I've been phone banking I've been getting several seniors that have have issues w/their ballots (they make mistakes, spill etc). They're not really homebound so they can't keep driving to the BOE.
So I've been calling several of the BOE's on their behalf to figure out how to get new ballots. They can get new ballots if they return the old first and the county BOE can verify it's been returned. AT that point they'll send a new problem.
Here's the problem - I can guarantfuckingtee you there will be counties (hello Cuyahoga and Lucas County!) that don't verify this and won't be diligent in making sure they're not sending out an absentee ballot to someone that already (a) has one or (b) completed it and sent it back in.
Also, I've been told the post office isn't even checking to see if their is postage on the ballots. Apparently postal clerks have been told to waive them through if they see BOE logo on the front even if they don't have stamps.
Early voting is an unmitigated disaster that needs to be banned altogether except for military and people who can document they can't actually vote in person.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 15, 2012 10:10 AM (pLTLS)
Obama starts the vote count with Indiana, NC, Colorado, and FL off the board for him.
Think about what that means...
Posted by: Jay at October 15, 2012 10:11 AM (3LaGb)
And get off my lawn...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 02:06 PM (9+ccr)
That one is at least common parlance in other places 
.
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 10:11 AM (uuKDm)
Posted by: Truman North at October 15, 2012 10:11 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: IC at October 15, 2012 10:11 AM (a0IVu)
your shinebox, make me a sammich and stop babbling about these alleged
inside jokes.
Posted by: The chicken and charlie Gibson at October 15, 2012 02:05 PM (OWjjx)
And get off my lawn...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 02:06 PM (9+ccr)
\
I'll be in my bunk!
Posted by: Havedash at October 15, 2012 10:11 AM (F0WNa)
game over, man. Game over....
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 10:11 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: SH at October 15, 2012 10:12 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:12 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: rik at October 15, 2012 10:12 AM (gQxm3)
Posted by: Serious Cat at October 15, 2012 02:00 PM (OKdaZ)
Martinez was only elected because Bill Richardson was so corrupt. Despite her popularity (69% approval last I saw), she is a lone repub in a sea of people with their hands out.
Posted by: huerfano at October 15, 2012 10:12 AM (bAGA/)
Somebody already probably said this, but: Obama phone woman
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 15, 2012 10:12 AM (61onk)
Posted by: tasker at October 15, 2012 10:13 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:13 AM (AZGON)
Meh. Someone who can be so easily bribed is unlikely to vote in the first place.
I guess we'll see, but I'm really not sweating Ohio.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 10:14 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 10:14 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: proudjackass at October 15, 2012 10:14 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: not the mama at October 15, 2012 10:15 AM (kzCIn)
This talk of winning without Ohio may end up only being hypothetical. Wenzel Strategies/Citizens United has Romney up by 1% in Ohio, Mandel also winning:
http://tinyurl.com/8lg45t2
Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at October 15, 2012 10:15 AM (+inic)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:15 AM (9+ccr)
>>>>Somebody already probably said this, but: Obama phone woman
Since Halo 4 is coming out on 11/6, and that takes care of Mom's basement voters, can we just start a rumor that the newest Obamaphone is coming out then and people need to be in line for them?
Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2012 10:15 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: rik at October 15, 2012 10:15 AM (gQxm3)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:15 AM (AZGON)
affected by through-the-roof unemployment, and soaring energy prices?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Because it's made of of a bunch of parasitic shiftless union layabout employees who do things like go to Romney rallies as plants wearing shirts that say 'let's put the white back in the white house' with a Romney sticker directly above that message (on the back of the shirt btw) so they can get their photo taken to paint the narrative that ZOMG!!!White Devil Republicans Hate the Black Man!!!1!!!
Yeah, something like that I do believe.
I hate Ohio.
We're going to win it but really, it should not be this flipping hard.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 15, 2012 10:15 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:16 AM (wR+pz)
Early voting is an unmitigated disaster that needs to be banned altogether except for military and people who can document they can't actually vote in person.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 15, 2012 02:10 PM (pLTLS)
Most of your complaint is about absentee ballots; early voting ain't the same
Depends on the state, and how early the voting is: Florida requires a photo ID and signature on voting rolls. Once you sign, you've voted ( can't vote again ) and you're who you say you is. Early voting is two weeks, but not the Sunday before election day.
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 10:16 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2012 10:17 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Shirts That The Guys Get at October 15, 2012 10:17 AM (nmEPy)
The coming debate: they are making the moderatorÂ’s desk out of gingerbread so Candy Crowley doesnÂ’t go into hypoglycemia<<<<<<
Baby Got Backfat.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 15, 2012 10:18 AM (z7X0E)
Posted by: TD at October 15, 2012 10:18 AM (DQMcq)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:18 AM (9+ccr)
^^^^^^^^
No but it's all part and parcel of the same type of fraud.
Every election year we go through this bullshit. Not it's not the machines. It's the local BOE that mucks it up because they're not applying the same standards.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 15, 2012 10:18 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 01:50 PM
If he does, let's all sock him, put "greg" in our sigs
Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2012 10:18 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 10:18 AM (DGIjM)
No, and this is why they're attempting to implement the "Romney is too much of a goody two-shoes to be president" meme.They can't find any dirt on him.
Or Ryan, either.
Posted by: OregonMuse at October 15, 2012 10:18 AM (9GaPd)
Posted by: Redd at October 15, 2012 10:19 AM (f0ies)
"This election has already been decided and Romney will win. Quit worrying"
No.
I'll quit worrying on Jan 22 when TFG's plane lands in Caracas or Buenos Aires and the incoming SecState puts his ass on the Unwelcome list.
Posted by: Jaws at October 15, 2012 10:19 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: proudjackass at October 15, 2012 02:14 PM (V/U0X)
SIXTY PERCENT? We've run trolls off for less than that.
Your going to have to get.....http://tinyurl.com/994fd7c
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:19 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Machines for sale at October 15, 2012 10:20 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: tasker at October 15, 2012 10:20 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs are Really SMOD in Disguise at October 15, 2012 10:20 AM (+AV7H)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 10:20 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: DCPensFan at October 15, 2012 10:21 AM (zIe0x)
Obama has NEVER led.
These fuckos can go ram a barbwire wrapped fencepost of their own asses.
Posted by: Courtesy Flush at October 15, 2012 10:21 AM (tkbF8)
Tell us the "Moron" you're referring to is Choom Boy, so we don't think you're gratuitously insulting Teh Horde.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 15, 2012 10:21 AM (ZgX/g)
We win FL, NC, NH, PA, OH, WI, IA, CO, NV. I think we also win MI.
Don't get cocky, but don't be an eeyore.
Keep fighting. The facts and sentiment are on our side.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 15, 2012 10:21 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: backhoe at October 15, 2012 10:21 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: tasker at October 15, 2012 10:21 AM (r2PLg)
Baby Got Backfat.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 15, 2012 02:18 PM (z7X0E)
Who you calling...'Baby'.
*cracks whip*
Posted by: Mistress Candy Cowley at October 15, 2012 10:21 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (QQcJv)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (UZQM8)
Carey and Minaj, hardly artists, and hardly relevant. If de bitches want to feud, let 'em.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (jUytm)
I read this as "octopus up it's sleeve".
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (POGCP)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (AZGON)
What a way to go......
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 15, 2012 10:22 AM (wtvvX)
I agree about the fraud, but the Dems will steal votes regardless of how people vote. Absentee / mail in ballots make it easier, which is why OR and WA have adopted all-mail ballots.
What helps hugely is a state government controlled by Rs who purge dead people, aliens, etc from voter rolls ( like in FL and OH ) and exercise some control over county supervisors of elections.
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 10:23 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: palin steele at October 15, 2012 10:24 AM (ggRof)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 15, 2012 10:24 AM (jUytm)
FL, SC,VA, WI (I think this is much easier than other people), and CO is 267.
All you need is NH or IA and you got it.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 15, 2012 10:25 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 02:22 PM (AZGON)
Don't go over to Hot air and say something like that. Ed was all angry and stuff when some comments referenced her, shall we say, girth...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:25 AM (9+ccr)
What's worse... some use inside jokes only themselves, or the truly insane, understand.
Posted by: The Disembodied head of Bruce Vilanch (the bearded one) at October 15, 2012 10:25 AM (38ReL)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 10:25 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 15, 2012 10:25 AM (Sptt8)
Don't forget CO has a bunch of coal and when I was out there two weeks ago it was ALL Willard all the time.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:25 AM (wR+pz)
OT
http://bit.ly/RxMZL1
Germany is faced with a repeat of the power shortages experienced last year that threatened to plunge parts of the country into darkness.
Proving again the teutons are the dumbest people on the planet.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 02:13 PM (AZGON)
Green Energy is our future. Reliable electricity is sooo 20th century.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 15, 2012 10:25 AM (zLp5I)
BTW - Romney still losing the crucial 7-11 Slurpee Cup Poll. He's only ahead in Idaho and West Virginia, while being tied in New Hampshire.
http://www.7-eleven.com/7-Election/NationalResults.aspx
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 15, 2012 10:26 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 15, 2012 10:26 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 10:26 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:26 AM (V/U0X)
The media... actually asked the Romney campaign about it and they analyzed photos of said dishes to reveal.. yes.. there was dirt found on the dishes.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 02:22 PM (DGIjM)
I saw that idiot Zeke Miller tweet that the other day. I complimented him on the wonderful investigative journalism and posited that there was a Pulitzer in waiting for him.
Idiot.
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 10:26 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:27 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 10:27 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Che=Rupert Poopypants! at October 15, 2012 10:27 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:27 AM (AZGON)
Don't go over to Hot air and say something like that. Ed was all angry and stuff when some comments referenced her, shall we say, girth...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 02:25 PM (9+ccr)
Isn't he the one referred to a Poppin' Fresh?
(said by the fat man)
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 15, 2012 10:27 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: votermom at October 15, 2012 10:27 AM (0TQYR)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (pmsMR)
Posted by: DCPensFan at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (zIe0x)
Posted by: Ohio Native at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (OiC7K)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (Zc+kn)
"Would you like your Candy Crowley barbecued wet or dry? The fat keeps it juicy."
Say a prayer for the poor b*st*rd who draws the short straw and has to dry rub that.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (AZGON)
BTW - Romney still losing the crucial 7-11 Slurpee Cup Poll. He's only ahead in Idaho and West Virginia, while being tied in New Hampshire.
http://www.7-eleven.com/7-Election/NationalResults.aspx
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 15, 2012 02:26 PM (kdS6q)
And the crucial "Who would you rather have babysit your Children" poll. I kid you not. ABC actually had that poll. Seems after the debate they thought Mitt was too stern, and they thought obama was mellow. Just what I want a stoned babysitter...Oh, and it really oversampled Dems. by double digits...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:28 AM (9+ccr)
"There is now a controversary whether or not Paul Ryan actually washed dirty dishes at a homeless shelter.
The media... actually asked the Romney campaign about it and they analyzed photos of said dishes to reveal.. yes.. there was dirt found on the dishes. "
Fast and Furious? Benghazi hearings? Not news.
Paul Ryan's work at a homeless shelter? News.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 15, 2012 10:29 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 10:29 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:29 AM (UZQM8)
Don't go over to Hot air and say something like that. Ed was all angry and stuff when some comments referenced her, shall we say, girth...
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 02:25 PM (9+ccr)
He's not going all Crazy Chuckles over there, is he?
Posted by: © Sponge at October 15, 2012 10:29 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 15, 2012 10:30 AM (jUytm)
When you run on Big Bird and dirty dishes, you lose
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 10:30 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:30 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2012 10:30 AM (TMB3S)
In fairness, the Moron horde does have quite a few inside jokes (at least that one's googable)
When you start getting into really obscure things (Pudding!) that's when the new people start gettign scared (I speak from experience.)
I carried pudding with me to the VP debate. It was my own private signal, looking for any other morons attending the debate. Alas I didn't find any.
Posted by: Dennis at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (SEkXG)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (AZGON)
I don't get it. Are they subsidy-suckers afraid to give up on the Democrat teat?
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (Zc+kn)
Posted by: Cricket at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (DrC22)
"The fat keeps it juicy."
The trick to grilling a juicy Candy Crowley is to seer her on both sides, then lower the heat and allow to cook slowly.
OK, but I am not turning it over.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (lOlyY)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 15, 2012 10:31 AM (ozFTd)
The without Ohio path without PA, MI, or WI, is 273 which is dependent on NV, IA, and NH.
If you deduct NH you are at the nightmare 269 to 269.
Posted by: SCFOAMF returns at October 15, 2012 10:32 AM (3oPjL)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:32 AM (Kv/xV)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:32 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Redd at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (f0ies)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (Kv/xV)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: ISTJ at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (RuF8n)
WTF is wrong with Iowa?
Posted by: JEM
Lots of Los Farmworkers and the social service mafia that grows fat off them.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (kdS6q)
CO, IO, WI, NV, and PA would just be gravy. Very do-able; likely to happen
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 10:33 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (ozFTd)
Posted by: Joltin' Joe Biden at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (EWySI)
Rudy Giuliani Asks Soledad O’Brien ‘Am I Debating With the President's Campaign?’
http://tinyurl.com/8r2aweo
Posted by: kbdabear at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Nventor at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (+yL85)
Posted by: irony: King O visits dam rather then study for debate at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (LpQbZ)
If the election were held today, MI, PA, IA and NV go for Obama.
FL, NC, NH and CO go for Romney.
That's 249-248 Obama leading Romney.
Whoever wins 2/3 of WI, OH, and VA win it.
I think VA is leaning Romney, WI is leaning Obama, and OH is a coin flip.
Romney needs to be aggressive in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, and he needs not to neglect Nevada and Iowa. A few appearances in Michigan wouldn't hurt either.
Posted by: bigpale at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (VQluy)
Posted by: TD at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (DQMcq)
Posted by: Emeril Lagasse at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Soona at October 15, 2012 10:34 AM (yuyki)
I don't get it. Are they subsidy-suckers afraid to give up on the Democrat teat?
That and they still have union manufacturing and a bunch of ghey NCAA wrestlers. Also a few real hippie towns. Think Utopian in the old days.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:35 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 15, 2012 10:35 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: ISTJ at October 15, 2012 02:33 PM (RuF8n)
Romney went to campaign in Lebanon?? The balls on that guy !!!
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 10:35 AM (Dll6b)
That sould be a factor to motivate the socons.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 15, 2012 10:35 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 15, 2012 10:35 AM (mcWHD)
I don't get it. Are they subsidy-suckers afraid to give up on the Democrat teat?
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2012 02:31 PM (o+SC1)
Corn subsidies. They're afraid that the small government R's will up and rid us of them (which they should.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 10:35 AM (uuKDm)
Posted by: Emeril Lagasse at October 15, 2012 10:36 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 15, 2012 10:36 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:36 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:36 AM (Kv/xV)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 15, 2012 10:36 AM (ozFTd)
"I don't get it. Are they subsidy-suckers afraid to give up on the Democrat teat?"
Yes. Iowans are the biggest rent-seekers out there (well 2nd to Hollywood). They are culturally conservative, but have no problem putting their economic interest above all else. Between the corn lobby, and the ancillary goodies they get from being the first caucas state, they live off the federal government. A Romney/Ryan win would really be a threat to them. Though sadly, I don't ever seeing those subsidies going away.
Posted by: SH at October 15, 2012 10:37 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: © Sponge at October 15, 2012 02:29 PM
Naaah. But all that "fairness" crap and the heavy responsibilities of being a Clownhall.com employee instead of a thinking human being have fried his brain and have given him an "I'm Captain Ed -- listen to my radio show!" complex.
Besides, he woke up a few days ago and realized he won't be able to do any of his prized "Obamateurisms" after next Jan. 20.
He'll be on the Crazy Chuckles" road after Romney is inaugurated.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 15, 2012 10:37 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:37 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 10:37 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 15, 2012 10:37 AM (qEkGZ)
Speaking from purely anecdotal evidence, I visited my sister in Hershey, PA, last week, and there were a LOT of Romney, Romney/Ryan, and anti-Obama signs and stickers. Not so many that it woudl indicate a clear preference cascade, but enough to say, "There are people here who ARE NOT going to follow the herd. You're not alone." My sister hadn't really noticed them before, but as I kept pointing them out she got more and more excited. Her words, and I quote, "My vote might actually MATTER this year."
Pennsylvania is definitely up for grabs. It won't be easy, but it's doable.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 15, 2012 10:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:38 AM (V/U0X)
Allahpundit needs a new boyfriend and Ed needs someone to polish his head
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 10:38 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:38 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: Jean at October 15, 2012 10:39 AM (u5ozF)
F Chuck's face looks like the business end of a Tijuana hooker.
'Taint it the truth.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the answer at October 15, 2012 01:54 PM (AZGON)
I saw what you did there. Heh.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2012 10:39 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 15, 2012 10:39 AM (PVBo2)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 10:39 AM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Baldy at October 15, 2012 10:39 AM (opS9C)
Yes.
And a large percentage of immigrants (legal and illegal), and people who move out from inner-city Chicago to Dubuque or Cedar Rapids and their kids bring the city culture with them, and the Berkeley of the Midwest down in Iowa Shitty, but the fastest growing demographic is "single mothers." Yesterday the Des Moines paper did a huge section on how sad it is all these kids with stupid mothers and no fathers were poor...the rest of us need to step up or some shit.
(*sob* The children have to wear clothes from thrift shops *sob* but mom has enough money for tattoos and cigarettes. I'm out of compassion.)
Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at October 15, 2012 10:40 AM (/kI1Q)
Jesus Christ - I'm surrounded by pussies. Hearing the lamentation of their women is one of the things that is best in life.
I thought this was a Horde, for cryin' out loud!Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 15, 2012 10:40 AM (ozFTd)
Posted by: Soona at October 15, 2012 10:40 AM (yuyki)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:40 AM (Kv/xV)
off topic but...
I've been trying to buy a Romney T-shirt online because I'm going to be in the Philly area the week before election day. Shit takes forever to load. Anyone else having similar issues?
Posted by: simpleton at October 15, 2012 10:40 AM (i3pKT)
Posted by: greg at October 15, 2012 10:41 AM (/Aauo)
Delphi's headquarters are in Ohio...right?
You'd think that all those Delphi jobs that Barky killed, would make a difference in Ohio.
Posted by: wheatie at October 15, 2012 10:41 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 10:41 AM (AZGON)
I thought this was a Horde, for cryin' out loud!
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at October 15, 2012 02:40 PM (ozFTd)
Yeah, but Ace started it!
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:41 AM (9+ccr)
that wasn't the response I'd hoped for
Posted by: simpleton at October 15, 2012 10:42 AM (i3pKT)
Posted by: forest at October 15, 2012 10:42 AM (7RBBe)
Posted by: tsj017 at October 15, 2012 10:42 AM (4YUWF)
BTW I see almost no chance Obama can hold NH and IA. They are gone, gone, gone. He may lose MN as well. The Midwest is not happy.
Posted by: TallDave at October 15, 2012 10:42 AM (/s1LA)
--Not to mention the potential for some GOP Reps "hearing the call of history" or going John Roberts.Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:42 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 10:42 AM (AZGON)
"Gov. Romney was supposed to be on with us this Thursday with Ann Romney. We were looking forward to it. Over the weekend, his people said that he had scheduling problems and would not be coming on with us. Nor at this point did he feel that he could reschedule...."
Message: Mitt doesn't need to impress the View shrews to win. Thank you, for snubbing them, Mitt. You don't need to subject yourself to stupid charges from Whoopie & Joy (like Whoopie accusing McCain of wanting to re-enslave blacks in 200
.Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2012 10:43 AM (tsXuB)
Ace,
Whoa there.
The latest polling on the electoral college numbers puts O 277 and R 261.
I do not think this is as tricky as you are portraying.
Romney essentially needs 9 more elecoral votes and this can be achieved by flipping just Wisconsin which has 10.
Or flipping Iowa and Nevada which each have 6 votes.
Ideally, it would be best to win Ohio with 18 electoral votes.
Bottom line, momentum is on Romney's side and Ohio is not secure to Obama by any stretch of the imagination.
Additionally, Wisconsin is still in play.
Stay strong my friends. And pray, it's good for the soul.
Posted by: Journolist at October 15, 2012 10:43 AM (LyIKl)
Ohio is going red.
I think you are right, just make it snow in Cleveland on election day.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 10:43 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:43 AM (Kv/xV)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:43 AM (UZQM8)
Gergle with a KayInMaine hash?
I'm all confused.
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 10:43 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 02:41 PM (9+ccr)
--------------------------------------------------
It's because Ace hasn't had his puppy-upper treatment today.
Posted by: Soona at October 15, 2012 10:44 AM (yuyki)
Posted by: greg at October 15, 2012 02:41 PM (/Aauo)
Don't you mean 57?
And don't you mean "Reich Wingers?"
Get your talking points straight, glory hole.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 15, 2012 10:44 AM (UK9cE)
Allahpundit needs a new boyfriend and Ed needs someone to polish his head
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 15, 2012 02:38 PM
But .. but .. My Obamateurism of the Day hits them hard !!
Posted by: Poppin' Fresh at October 15, 2012 10:44 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 10:44 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 10:44 AM (UZQM8)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 02:43 PM (Kv/xV)
*cough*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 15, 2012 10:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2012 10:44 AM (TMB3S)
I'm all confused.
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 02:43 PM (X6akg)
I noticed that, too! Glad I'm not alone. I thought I was hallucinating.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 15, 2012 10:45 AM (4df7R)
My electoral map shows Romney with 323 for the win. why? basically because if you say he is going to win one of these closer states, say OH, then he is likely to get a majority of the swing states.
One more thing, the headline could say 'Obama's path without Ohio', but then again, no it could not, OH is the whole ballgame for that rat bastard.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2012 10:45 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at October 15, 2012 02:44 PM (4df7R)
Turn your head and....
Posted by: EC at October 15, 2012 10:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 10:46 AM (i0vBR)
Posted by: Fritz at October 15, 2012 10:46 AM (vm7ot)
""The White House has fumbled this," the Mayor continued. "Whether it's a deliberate cover-up or they're making it look like a cover-up, they have fumbled the ball four or five times here. Several contradictions. So, excuse me if being the fact that I'm a Republican, I don't give them as you do all the benefit of the doubt."
When Giuliani said "As you do," he looked and gestured towards (Soledad) OÂ’Brien."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 15, 2012 10:46 AM (qrpxS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 10:46 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at October 15, 2012 10:46 AM (bN5ZU)
Posted by: tomorrow at October 15, 2012 10:46 AM (LpQbZ)
WTF is wrong with Iowa? Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2012 02:31 PM (o+SC1)
In one word: Ethanol.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (dcIHW)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at October 15, 2012 02:45 PM (4df7R)
They're all Average Joe, who when offered a choice, he elects to suck cock.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (UK9cE)
The truth is that most folks are sick of the dirty tricks and unpleasantness foisted upon us by the unions and democrat whiners, and will vote against the asshats whether we respond to polls or not. So, I'm gonna call it for Romney. But that is just me, of course.
Posted by: tcn at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (ZOUmX)
McCain states + IN + FL + NC + VA + OH = 266EV
There are 7 other swing states, Romney would just need one more.
But lose OH and those 18 are hard to make up - unless you can pull off PA. I've heard that PA had been just about written off, but is close to even now.
1) Does anybody have a read about how safe FL, NC, and VA are right now? I hear conflicting things.
2) Conventional wisdom says OH is pretty tight, but "Dave in FL" adjusts for the partisan mix in the polls, and averages, and has Romney up by about 4% (depending on which of his models you go by).
3) It's a statistical fact that if you average independent, unbiased samples, you get a more accurate result. My problem with the polls is that they do NOT seem to be unbiased to me. Nobody can really say that the people who are willing to answer polls have the same opinion mix as people who don't, and this time you hear that 90% don't answer. Theoretically, these polls could be WAY off.
4) I worry about questioning the polls, because we did so last time, and McCain lost anyway. But perhaps the message there is that the polls WERE wrong!! They were wrong in Obama's favor, but they were wrong.
5) Another worry is voter motivation. Can the Obama voters really be motivated, as they seem to be saying? I have trouble believing that - they know he broke almost all his promises to them, has a generally abysmal record, and he doesn't have that "make history" thing going on. Like the guy on PJ says, "Just look around you - how many Obama signs do you see? How many people are singing his praises?" Hell, I'm in upstate NY, and you wouldn't even know an election is going on.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (4MJt/)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (4df7R)
If you say Romney is going to "pull it out" I will scold you.
Posted by: Rick Santorum at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (vjyZP)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (8y9MW)
Anyone worried about the yute vote ("What is a yute?") should remember that Halo 4 drops on election day. As much as I despise that series (which is quite a lot), this pretty much renders the college male vote irrelevant. Following 14 hours straight of multiplayer, bleary-eyed kids will stumble out into the lobby of their dorms and hear news of the election.
"Huh? There was an election today? Aww crap."
Posted by: sans_sheriff at October 15, 2012 10:47 AM (OQHM+)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 10:48 AM (i0vBR)
Something like 6% of the state works in agriculture.
The more relevant word would be Medicaid.
Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at October 15, 2012 10:48 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Honey Badger @robfit at October 15, 2012 10:48 AM (2J4Qq)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 15, 2012 10:49 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: meh at October 15, 2012 10:49 AM (W2qJe)
Regardless of what the polls may be showing, I think Romney has a pretty good shot at both WI (ie Scott Walker and Paul Ryan-land) and NV.
So even assuming he doesn't win Ohio, I think he's got a good chance at the "second pathway" and bluntly, again, regardless of how the polls look right now, I think he's got a reasonable shot at Ohio too.
Posted by: looking closely at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (PwGfd)
Speaking from purely anecdotal evidence, I visited my sister in Hershey, PA, last week, and there were a LOT of Romney, Romney/Ryan, and anti-Obama signs and stickers. Not so many that it woudl indicate a clear preference cascade, but enough to say, "There are people here who ARE NOT going to follow the herd. You're not alone." My sister hadn't really noticed them before, but as I kept pointing them out she got more and more excited. Her words, and I quote, "My vote might actually MATTER this year."
Pennsylvania is definitely up for grabs. It won't be easy, but it's doable.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at October 15, 2012 02:38 PM (4df7R)
I live in the blue hell of Minnesota. I am going to vote, even if R/R lose MN, and Bills loses to Klobuchar, there are people down ticket. We need to support the Republicans down the ticket.
VOTE on 11/6, Vote Republican and Conservative.
VOTE Conservative for the local races and vote conservative for the JUDGES. For me, it is easy, VOTE anyone but the incumbent judge.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Rick Perry at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (AZGON)
I do think we need Ohio. I'm not sure Romney can win without it. Sure there are alternative paths, but if he can't win OH, I find it hard to believe he will win some other states.
All that being said, I think he takes Ohio and those other states so the point is moot.
But if he loses Ohio, it probably means he is losing elsewhere.
Posted by: SH at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (X/PKf)
Gergle with a KayInMaine hash?
I'm all confused.
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 02:43 PM (X6akg)
That hash has always been a sockpuppet. Its just taken real KayInMaine comments or other liberal rants and posted them here before.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (GULKT)
#125 - why a D+7 poll? I thought IDB was better than that
#130 - be nice to see WI, MI in those stops
Posted by: NoBama12 at October 15, 2012 10:50 AM (ykY2u)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 10:51 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: International Brotherhood of Ballot Box Mechanics - Local 1237 (Toledo) at October 15, 2012 10:51 AM (EZl54)
Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at October 15, 2012 02:48 PM (/kI1Q)
Percentages don't matter though, even in MO and S. IL people are conditioned to believe that without the Corn Subsidies the entire state economy would dry up. (Heck, with the recent drought you'd think MO had no other industry besides farming based on the news reports.)
Re: Halo 4, perhaps, but were the college male frat boys that big of a voting bloc anyway? (FWIW, I like Halo, but I own a house now, so I can't afford halo 4 for a few weeks.)
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 10:52 AM (uuKDm)
WTF is wrong with Iowa?
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2012 02:31 PM (o+SC1)
In one word: Ethanol.
Posted by: Donna V.
In one word: Alcohol.
Everyone I've know from there drinks like an Irish sponge.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 15, 2012 10:52 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: marcus at October 15, 2012 10:52 AM (GGCsk)
I look for OH to "suddenly", "unexpectedly" break for Romney by 4-5 points in the last week of the campaign.
Posted by: docj at October 15, 2012 10:52 AM (V20sy)
Posted by: TD at October 15, 2012 10:52 AM (DQMcq)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:52 AM (Kv/xV)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 10:53 AM (i0vBR)
Maybe you have to live here, but the ads tell the whole story. Romney is running confident ads, just him laying out his plan. Obama's ads? Desperate. That obviously edited 60 Minutes interview one, scare ads targeting women, ads that do nothing more than call Romney a liar. He knows he's losing it, and he's throwing every slimy attack he can on the airwaves. There are very few bones in my body that believe he has even a chance here.
Posted by: Nventor at October 15, 2012 10:53 AM (+yL85)
Have you ever been there? I used to live in Ohio, and now live in California. With the exception of Graeter's ice cream and Skyline Chili, Ohio sucks massive donkey balls. Which, incidentally, is the primary ingredient in Gold Star Chili.
Posted by: wooga at October 15, 2012 10:53 AM (vjyZP)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:54 AM (Kv/xV)
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 15, 2012 10:54 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 10:54 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 10:54 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Hector at October 15, 2012 10:54 AM (idyso)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 15, 2012 10:54 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 15, 2012 10:55 AM (z7X0E)
Posted by: billygoat at October 15, 2012 10:55 AM (CfGGV)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 10:56 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: mr.midnight at October 15, 2012 10:56 AM (Kv/xV)
4) I worry about questioning the polls, because we did so last time, and McCain lost anyway. But perhaps the message there is that the polls WERE wrong!! They were wrong in Obama's favor, but they were wrong.
McCain was the incumbent in the mind of the undecided voters, and when you are undecided on election day, you usually vote for the challenger. This favors Mitt in 2012.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 15, 2012 10:56 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 15, 2012 10:56 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 10:56 AM (i0vBR)
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2012 10:56 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: not the mama at October 15, 2012 10:57 AM (kzCIn)
Beside, I don't want to squeak by (yes, I'll take it in the end), but we should be hoping for a big smackdown of Obama. The bigger the defeat, the easier it will be to repeal Obamacare.
Posted by: SH at October 15, 2012 10:57 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 10:57 AM (AZGON)
The truth is that most folks are sick of the dirty tricks and unpleasantness foisted upon us by the unions and democrat whiners, and will vote against the asshats whether we respond to polls or not. So, I'm gonna call it for Romney. But that is just me, of course. Posted by: tcn at October 15, 2012 02:47 PM (ZOUmX)
I tend to agree with you. This is pretty unscientific, but I'm not seeing lots of Obama signs and I'm seeing R/R signs in unexpected places (like Shorewood and the East Side of Milwaukee). The R/R troops are very fired up. I'm much less confident about Thompson, because he's run an awful campaign. I think he assumed that he was just going to coast to victory based on past elections and name recognition and didn't expect to have to work hard to win.
Posted by: Donna V. at October 15, 2012 10:57 AM (dcIHW)
"
The blog Gawker wrote about the stunt under the headline, "Want Free Pizza Hut Pizza for Life? Just Make a Mockery of the American Democratic System on Live TV." The site wrote that all the contestant had to do was "embarrass themselves on live television before the President of the United States and millions of their fellow Americans."
"
Posted by: mallfly at October 15, 2012 10:57 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 10:57 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 02:06 PM (9+ccr)
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I'll be in my bunk!
Posted by: Havedash at October 15, 2012 02:11 PM (F0WNa)
When I slice, I slice like a fucking hammer.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 15, 2012 10:57 AM (rqlRk)
Skyline Chili tastes like ass.
Mike-sells were pretty good until the health fascists scared them away from 100% peanut oil.
My great-grandfather and all his brothers moved up to SW Ohio from SW Virginia at the turn of the 20th century because it afforded better opportunities to not starve to death. Now it's just kind of sad.
Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at October 15, 2012 10:58 AM (/kI1Q)
The thing is, if it's close in both PA and OH, both are about a 50/50 chance and there's a 75% chance that Romney gets at least one. PA is worth a couple more than OH.
I don't feel good about MI, so the next biggest states are WI, CO, NV, IA, with 10, 9, 6, and 6. WI + CO replaces OH, but then you still need one more state - any state.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 15, 2012 10:58 AM (4MJt/)
As an Ohioan, I tend to agree. I hate being a swing state. I can't even watch football on Sunday without having idiots lie to me throughout the game...and pregame...and postgame. It's been one commercial after another. I think Romney's going to win Ohio, but even if he doesn't, it's got to be disheartening for the Obama campaign to spend the amount of money they are spending here, only to have the polls tighten in Romney's favor. Even if Obama ends up winning Ohio, that's money he's not spending in other states.
Posted by: Mullaney at October 15, 2012 10:59 AM (s8XaI)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 15, 2012 02:56 PM (VtjlW)
I don't know about that. If you put in that the classic method of dealing with troll was once to edit their posts into saying "I like cock" and similar things you might just cause jimi ray's pointy little head to explode because of the gay-baiting.
Actually on second thought, yeah go do that.
Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at October 15, 2012 10:59 AM (GULKT)
I live in MN too.
I'll definitely vote (helps that the polling station is 3 blocks away), but know who is down ticket in my district? Keith Ellison, who will win easily thanks to his complexion. So will Klobuchar who is pretending to be a moderate.
At least voter ID is on the ballot, so it won't be a total waste of time.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 15, 2012 10:59 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2012 10:59 AM (e0xKF)
Who's "we"? I'm trapped in a Dem cesspool (aka northeast/northcentral Ohio) and I'm sick to death of suffering the consequences of their union-induced stupidity. I deserve better than Obama. the whole country does.Posted by: SFC MAC at October 15, 2012 10:59 AM (TLbgU)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 15, 2012 11:00 AM (POGCP)
Posted by: wooga at October 15, 2012 02:53 PM
Ohio's that bad, eh?
I could imagine relocating from, say Iran or North Korea to CA, but I didn't really think any of the Other 49 -- even MA -- are as truly, awfully and totally screwed-up as Clownifornia.
Yeah, I miss Tito's Tacos in West L.A., but the craving ain't strong enough to make me wish I still lived there....
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (AZGON)
Nobody has insulted F Chuck for the last several minutes. I shall remedy that.
FunFact: F Chuck started his on-camera career as a lighting stand-in model at Hustler Magazine in 1982.
Posted by: Jaws at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Voluble at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (qYvEa)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 11:01 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 11:02 AM (i0vBR)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 11:02 AM (aHR5E)
Of course there will be some states that are close in the election.
I'm sweating New Jersey, Connecticut and Oregon. Anything slightly less blue than these are going for Mitt.
There has never been one piece of evidence that nationally this was going to be anything other than a landslide.
Posted by: jwest at October 15, 2012 11:02 AM (ZDsRL)
Mrs Romney is.
Posted by: Gran at October 15, 2012 02:56 PM (79rba)
Mitt should be going there.
Posted by: Hector at October 15, 2012 11:02 AM (idyso)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 11:03 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Redd at October 15, 2012 11:03 AM (f0ies)
Posted by: Marie at October 15, 2012 11:03 AM (H50jQ)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (i0vBR)
Mrs Romney is.
Posted by: Gran at October 15, 2012 02:56 PM (79rba)
Mitt should be going there.
Well, I don't know what this means but Jill Biden is going to Minn.
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (9+ccr)
I'm not sure about NH. However, maybe Romney will get one in ME because of their fucked-up proportional voting.
But Romney still wins.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (2b4yb)
NC barely went for Obama last time. He won it 49.9% to McCain 49.5%.
In addition, Bob Barr was a "spoiler" with 0.6%, with most of that probably going to McCain if Barr weren't on the ticket. So Obama really only won NC by a small fraction of a percent.
That was with historically unprecedented African American turnout in a State with the highest percentage of African Americans of any "swing" state.
There is just no way that Obama is going to do as well this time again. NC is lost to him.
Posted by: looking closely at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (PwGfd)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2012 03:01 PM (6o4Fb)
Yeah I know I'm just slow to update my name.
Posted by: buzzion at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (GULKT)
Meh. For one thing, Mitt isn't anywhere right now- he's all in on debate prep. For another, Mitt "should be" just about everywhere. He's got limited resources, including time.
I'm not about to start questioning his tactical decisions.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 15, 2012 11:04 AM (PVBo2)
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 15, 2012 11:05 AM (KjlbF)
Posted by: Palin Steele sucking Clarence's dick at October 15, 2012 11:05 AM (wR+pz)
Why? I want there to be no question about this. I don't want a win; I want a bloodbath. I want a trouncing. I want a gorram MANDATE. I want to hear the lamentation of their women, including the ones on the View. I want this country to wake up, remember their Constitution, and reject Chicago machine-thuggery and Dem cronyism so lopsidedly that Democrats will be ashamed to put their party affiliation on their campaign posters for the next century. And I want Mitt Romney to know loud and clear just how much we reject them.
I want him to win so far beyond the Margin of Fraud that he knows without a doubt we want Obamacare legislated out of existence. I want an Executive Order signed on the first day that reverses every other EO signed on the last four years. I want Obama so firmly rejected that even Bill Ayers wants to change his name, move to another state, and deny that he was ever affiliated with the SCOAMF. I want everyone ever associated with him to flee like cockroaches surprised by the refrigerator light.
That's not too much to ask for, is it?
Posted by: Keith Arnold at October 15, 2012 11:05 AM (Jdtsu)
When volvo filters and cat filters come back, we can talk.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at October 15, 2012 11:06 AM (ZgX/g)
<i>Short version: It's a bitch and a half. </i>
That's the most depressing thing I've read in about a month.
Posted by: pendejo grande at October 15, 2012 11:06 AM (OZW5B)
Posted by: RWC at October 15, 2012 11:07 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 15, 2012 11:07 AM (POGCP)
So, bottom line - OH can be replaced by WI & CO. I've heard some positive things about all three. He still needs another states, but if Romney has a 50/50 shot at several, he's likely to pick up at least one.
I just worry about if Romney really has FL, NC, and VA.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 15, 2012 11:07 AM (4MJt/)
Posted by: palin stale at October 15, 2012 11:07 AM (V/U0X)
Didn't someone contact the actual KayInMaine to let her know she was being socked and, iirc, she was aware of it and was a pretty good sport about it. I think it was going on in other places as well<<<<<<
Yeah, I did. Still have those emails, too.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 15, 2012 11:08 AM (z7X0E)
^^^^^This. In spades.
....
Oh, and yes, I denounce myself.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 15, 2012 11:08 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at October 15, 2012 03:05 PM (Jdtsu)
Not at all. I would like to add a permanent special prosecutor to examine the entire Obama administration, starting with a rectal exam of Holder.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2012 11:08 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2012 11:08 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Redman Bluestate at October 15, 2012 11:08 AM (sRIFP)
@AllenG,
I think he figures one more steller debate is worth more than 100 campaign stops, and I figure he's right about that given the cascade the last one set off.
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 11:09 AM (uuKDm)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 11:09 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 11:09 AM (i0vBR)
(say that in the debate, Romney)
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 15, 2012 11:10 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 15, 2012 11:10 AM (X/+QT)
yeah. this makes Va. just a wee bit harder for Romney. especially in Virgil's home areas where they think a Mormon is not a Christian
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 15, 2012 11:10 AM (HNwOT)
Posted by: AllenG's blog at October 15, 2012 11:10 AM (PVBo2)
Posted by: Scotty McTavish at October 15, 2012 11:10 AM (sdFui)
Posted by: Nikki Minaj at October 15, 2012 11:11 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 15, 2012 11:11 AM (X/+QT)
Posted by: Barney Reginald Frank Love, III at October 15, 2012 11:11 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: palin stale at October 15, 2012 03:07 PM (V/U0X)
You said you wouldn't say anything about my sex change, you lying asshole.
Posted by: Clarence at October 15, 2012 11:11 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: AllenG's blog at October 15, 2012 11:12 AM (PVBo2)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 11:12 AM (UZQM8)
Overconfidence flashback:
minx.cc/?post=277191
P.S. Don't post to old threads or the bot will block your IP
Posted by: Up, up with people at October 15, 2012 11:12 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: palin steele's inflatable ex-girlfriend at October 15, 2012 11:13 AM (V/U0X)
Its over, every contested state was a previous obama state, Romney will get his share. Gerahty is just war gaming, which can be fun, but kinda useless.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2012 11:13 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 15, 2012 11:14 AM (PVBo2)
Posted by: Lyford at October 15, 2012 11:14 AM (BC9Nt)
Ohio isn't that bad. I've been to roughly half of the states, and I'd place Ohio roughly in the middle. Of course, in mid-February, when I'm so sick of winter I want to kill myself, then I might have a different opinion. But even taking winter into consideration, that would make Ohio better than any state further north than Ohio, in my opinion.
But I also get a bit tired of the whiny blue-collar BS crap that goes on here. The successful people tend to leave Ohio (because they have to), while those left behind whine because there are no longer any factory jobs. Then learn a skill, you dumbass, instead of lamenting the fact that you can no longer get paid a union-mandated $40 an hour to tighten bolts all day (plus excellent benefits).
I may move out of Ohio one day, but if I do it will probably be North or South Carolina. I rather like California, but I'd only move there if about 2/3 of the current population left. Which might actually happen in my lifetime.
Posted by: Mullaney at October 15, 2012 11:14 AM (s8XaI)
Posted by: rrpjr at October 15, 2012 11:14 AM (6uXuH)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 11:15 AM (DGIjM)
When I think of people like Toure, I start to think the Confederacy may have had a point.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 15, 2012 11:15 AM (sbV1u)
Which, BTW, does have a new post up. But not about Ace's visit to Lebanon.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 11:15 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 03:09 PM (uuKDm) "
I'd be happy if there was only the one debate. Mitt couldn't do any better and Barry couldn't do any worse.
I fear this next one Mitt's going to be assaulting a heavily-fortified position. Barry without the press is an empty-headed boy-whore for wealthy Pakistanis. Barry with the press is the Sun King who can do no wrong. They (the press) got caught flat-footed last time - Lehrer didn't challenge Mitt enough and actually let there be a somewhat-debate. That won't happen again. The debate will be carefully controlled to benefit Barry.
Candy Crowley is going to be prepared to jump onto a grenade for Soetero.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 15, 2012 11:15 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: AllenB (Dedicated Xther) at October 15, 2012 11:16 AM (z7X0E)
Posted by: DM at October 15, 2012 11:16 AM (QULDk)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (i0vBR)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (DGIjM)
You have a blog?!?!?
Get. Out. Of. Town.
Really?
(Nope...never gets old.)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (V/U0X)
via WeaselZippers:
President ObamaÂ’s distaste for debate preparation may be mitigated by the location his current tutorial, the fabulous Kingsmill Resort in Williamsburg Virginia, featuring stunning scenery, deluxe accommodations, and three championship golf courses.
A portion of the tab for this luxury is of course being picked up by taxpayers, who largely footed the bill to fly Obama down there aboard Air Force One and house his White House retinue in Williamsburg for three nights. Presumably many of his aides, including a large security detail, are at the hotel itself.
Exactly why Obama needed to be training for his debate at the Kingsmill Resort instead of the White House or Camp David is unclear.
FREE MONEY!!!!!! That means I can spend it at will, right?
Posted by: © Sponge at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 15, 2012 03:15 PM (TpXEI)
Hell she may be able to do it and survive. (Sorry if that hurts your feelings jimi (not really))
Posted by: Adam at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (/YJYi)
Romney wins Wisconsin. Put it in the bank. Paul Ryan is wildly popular here, Scott Walker won election as Governor (twice), Tommy Thompson will win the Senate seat easiliy, and Wisconsin Republicans are probably the most motivated partisan Republicans in the nation. Romney will win Wisconsin, period.
That being the case, if you assume that Romney wins Florida, NC, CO and VA (for which the current polling looks very good), Wisconsin gets us to 267 in the EC. Then we need one of Nevada, Iowa, New Hampshire, or Ohio.
I think Romney is more likely to win Iowa or NH than Ohio at this stage, but that will be enough. If he wins Ohio too, great, that's gravy.
What I'm really hoping for, as we all are, is that the Romney surge continues (call it a preference cascade or a massive Gestalt moment or an Emperor Has No Clothes epiphany or whatever), and he wins Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, NH, VA, NC, and FL.
337, bitchez!
Posted by: The Regular Guy at October 15, 2012 11:17 AM (qHCyt)
I was disappointed in the size of the crowd. Then again, in '04 I was seeing BOOOSH in a convention center and stadium, and Palin at a VA rally 15,000 strong. This was... um, intimate. (And if there's any of the 4 candidates I'd like to be intimate with, it's Dreamy the Math Witch.)
Still, not too bad for noon on a Monday. It was well organized. Plane landed, he talked about 10 minutes, worked the rope lines, got back on the plane. Then they fed us BBQ
There was clear and close attention to optics-- placement of a huge flag, banner, and the plane, which made me happy. Couple people passing out sample R ballots. Lots of emphasis on early voting.
And LOTS of pictures from my spot 10 yards away. The whole crowd in my section helped maneuver an elderly lady to a good spot on the rope line. She came away saying, "He looks just like he does on TV! His eyes really are that blue!"
Posted by: Filly at October 15, 2012 11:18 AM (247Qj)
----
I predict negligible damage. Too much mass for a simple grenade to overcome.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 15, 2012 11:18 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 15, 2012 03:15 PM (TpXEI)
Hence the extra preperation!
.
Prepare for the worst, succede in the best etc.
Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 15, 2012 11:18 AM (uuKDm)
Posted by: GalosGann at October 15, 2012 11:18 AM (T3KlW)
When I was in Ohio 3 weeks ago for a rally the guy next to me said that Obama only won Ohio by like 5 counties... Counties he has lost support in.
Anyway.. he said.. suppress vote in Cleveland.. and Romney wins.
The rest of Ohio is as red as Texas.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 15, 2012 03:15 PM (DGIjM)
Yeah its not exactly a dem stronghold state, just too many fucking cities. Cleveland Columbus Cincinatti Dayton and Toledo. Those are the hellholes that end up electing Democrats.
Posted by: buzzion at October 15, 2012 11:18 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 15, 2012 11:19 AM (8y9MW)
-----
Allen's blog???
Never heard of it.....
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 15, 2012 11:19 AM (C8hzL)
Posted by: tasker at October 15, 2012 11:20 AM (r2PLg)
Not farm subsidies, not "taking away your medicare", not "will appoint judges who will...". No. Pro-Planned Parenthood subsidies.
And this was an Obama ad, with him "approving" and everything.
I don't know what he's doing, but I think Iowa will go Romney by a lesser margin than Ohio.
Iowans like their corn subsidies but they hate all the others. It's kinda like West Virginia in that way.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 15, 2012 11:20 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 15, 2012 11:20 AM (+I8Mq)
Have you seen the story on the Voter Fraud billboards in Cleveland? The crap the lefties say proves that they win by cheating.
"An election-related billboard in ClevelandÂ’s Ward 5 has caused a stir, prompting some complaints that it discriminates against minority groups and felons."
http://tinyurl.com/9ab4tpt
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 15, 2012 11:21 AM (tf9Ne)
I remember the first time I got sock puppeted, Allen...
The excitement, the nervous, sweaty fumbling, the shame when it was over.
Cherish it, my friend.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 15, 2012 11:21 AM (z7X0E)
Loose Shit
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 15, 2012 11:21 AM (rqlRk)
Crossover time!
(I'm not even going to look, because I'll bet that actually exists ...)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 15, 2012 11:21 AM (POGCP)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 11:21 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Adam at October 15, 2012 11:21 AM (/YJYi)
I've listened to that clip above twice...
Chuck Todd is saying that their 'private data' has Barky losing.
That...'structural shift'...is happening in his rhetoric, in talking about this race.
Many of us have sensed for a long time that this could be a blowout for Romney --- and a bloodbath for Barky.
Question is, why is Chuck Todd saying this now?
Trying to get ahead of it?
Posted by: wheatie at October 15, 2012 11:21 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 15, 2012 11:22 AM (UZQM8)
335 All this fucking Iowa talk...I need a Maid-Rite.
*shakes fist*
Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at October 15, 2012 02:54 PM (/kI1Q)
Yay!!! First Ave. Cedar Rapids reference?!?! Oh crap, me too now. Nnnn...
Posted by: Is what JQ Public is thinking... at October 15, 2012 11:22 AM (NBj0d)
Posted by: logprof at October 15, 2012 11:22 AM (V/U0X)
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 15, 2012 03:20 PM (+I8Mq)
She's trying desperately to destroy that stereotype.
No one wants to see her naked.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 15, 2012 11:22 AM (UK9cE)
443....Why does he need to take Air Force one to f'n Williams burg VA? What is that, about a 5 minute flight?
I know, I know....shut up, that's why.....
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 15, 2012 11:22 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Truman North at October 15, 2012 11:23 AM (I2LwF)
The SCOAMT is between a rock and a hard place in this next debate. I'm sure they thought that a smug, aggressive Biden would get the needed approval so that Baraka could come in doing the same to finish the job. So an agressive, interrupting and screechy preezy ain't gonna git 'er done either.
And he certainly can't talk about his foreign policy record.
What to do. What to do.
Posted by: Soona at October 15, 2012 11:23 AM (yuyki)
I flung the door open and greeted them heartily, said I was a Catholic and thus already had a religion, but I was enthusiastically supporting Mitt Romney. They got these huge smiles on their faces. I told them the should work the neighborhood hard for Romney. Sheepishly, they said they couldn't get into politics.
Sure. I'm thinking its a master stroke. They're GOTV without the politics. I'll bet every missionary for LDS is on the streets of the US for the next three weeks.
Not talking politics, of course. Of course.
Posted by: Derak at October 15, 2012 11:23 AM (lkjWK)
I think both sides know Colorado will go Romney, and Iowa is a coin toss. Gay marriage has to be hurting Obama in Iowa, and I suspect you'll see a silent majority arrive at the polls. Nevada looks like it leans Obama, but it does have an enormous LDS population, and it is a state that is traditionally Republican with the highest unemployment in the nation. It's very winnable.
Posted by: McAdams at October 15, 2012 11:25 AM (g46Vj)
The truth of the matter is that OdipO needs to pull a sweep on an inside straight with a hail mary in the superbowl of world series 9th inning grand slams with the slow car in the indy 500 while bowling a 300.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2012 11:25 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 15, 2012 11:26 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Soona at October 15, 2012 11:27 AM (yuyki)
keep obama in president!! He gave us a phone! Now a Tea Party Ad
youtu.be/CqHPZteJ7rI
Hill frickin larius
Posted by: Up, up with people at October 15, 2012 11:27 AM (kzFo5)
I just worry about if Romney really has FL, NC, and VA.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 15, 2012 03:07 PM (4MJt/)
They've stopped polling there because he has them.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 15, 2012 11:28 AM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 15, 2012 11:31 AM (ck76k)
Bambi's crew is so broke that they may not be able to spread around the "walkin' around money" necessary to generate enough votes in Crook County Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2012 03:08 PM (e0xKF)
Not to mention that a humiliated Dailey still has lots of power in Cook County and ways of getting his own back. Might not be as many dead voting Dem this election...
Posted by: Donna V. at October 15, 2012 11:32 AM (dcIHW)
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 15, 2012 03:20 PM (+I8Mq)
And on top of that, that Crowley is the name used by a crossroads demon in "Supernatural" who goes on to become the King of Hell. And also the last name of the protagonist demon in "Good Omens" (which is a great book, btw). It has a lot of demonic connotations is what I'm getting at.
So in a perfect world she'd be a chubby demon who works at a hole-in-the-wall titty bar.
Instead, she gets to playact at being a "real journalist."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 15, 2012 11:32 AM (4df7R)
Well I do see romney/ryan signs in jersey, and none for obama yet, but I don't live in the dem controlled filth ridden shitholes. Jersey is pretty red outside of those, but the commies are definitely packed in the bastions of socialist failure, like camden, newark, jersey city, patterson, etc. They outnumber us that are in the suburbs.
Posted by: Berserker at October 15, 2012 11:32 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 15, 2012 11:32 AM (feFL6)
My son worked in NW Ohio selling books door to door. Nice people but a little mixed up. His land lady had six grown kids, 500 some grand childern from mixed marriages that mostly had failed. Doesn't seem like the church has much to do with these people any more. They all come to see her for money, of course, but none of them went to college and all are sort of just drifting along.
Does the winter take away motivation, or does getting shit for free do it?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 11:34 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 15, 2012 11:34 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 15, 2012 03:20 PM (+I8Mq)
Candy is her stage name. Her real name is FAT Chick.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 15, 2012 11:35 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2012 03:25 PM (PHb2k)
Not a single basketball reference? RACIST!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 15, 2012 11:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 15, 2012 11:35 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at October 15, 2012 11:37 AM (QXlbZ)
Iowa is going for Romney.
Posted by: Greg Q at October 15, 2012 11:41 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 15, 2012 11:48 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Rich at October 15, 2012 11:53 AM (pnHKr)
Posted by: Gerry at October 15, 2012 11:53 AM (xmffn)
Posted by: Chris R at October 15, 2012 11:56 AM (qP4e9)
Posted by: Lord of the Wigs at October 15, 2012 11:57 AM (SIwEl)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 15, 2012 11:57 AM (i0vBR)
And that right there is why you don't write stories like this, i'll never understand what anybody thinks they'll gain with these kind of articles, it depresses the base of whoever the articles written about and energizes the other side, and for what? Some pointless speculation that ultimately means nothing.
Posted by: booger at October 15, 2012 11:59 AM (HI6wa)
Posted by: K2 at October 15, 2012 12:03 PM (5iu8x)
Posted by: Ohiovoter at October 15, 2012 12:05 PM (AkFx3)
I wish this election was about splitting up the States to form two new countries. Whoever your state voted for would decide which country you would belong to.
I bet those Union workers in Ohio would not vote to join a new country that hates the military and big business. The government would be their new employer.
Of course they would realize that since they wouldn't have the Conservative business owners ,taxpayers and consumers to support the fuck ups of their union system, they would soon see their beloved present day unions dissovled by a leftist government.
Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2012 12:13 PM (m2CN7)
"480 They've stopped polling there [FL, NC, VA] because he has them."
One guy made headlines for doing so, but I've heard other polls, for example, that say FL is within 1%. The question is, does anybody have any supporting evidence for whether that guy knows what the hell he's talking about [crosses fingers]? We really need FL. There are other ways, if NC or VA are lost, if we pick up OH and/or PA.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 15, 2012 12:16 PM (4MJt/)
Imagine busloads of coal miners going precinct to precinct casting ballots or people trying to vote twice, registering people in the household that don't live there, trying to cast both an absentee ballot, vote early, etc. If Republicans "pushed the envelope" there would be real bipartisan voter fraud reform in all 50 states, but as long as it continues to benefit Democrats, they're never going to do what's right for the sanctity of democracy.
I'm not saying it's right, but every election we go through this and every time it's swept under the rug.
For the record, I think we'll overcome these issues in Ohio, the fact that Obama barely won the state in 2008 doesn't speak well for his chances, especially since they now have a Voter ID law on the books and nearly 500k ineligible voters have been thrown off. But could I see a scenario where Romney comfortably wins the popular vote but loses because of shennanigans in Ohio? Yes.
Posted by: McAdams at October 15, 2012 12:16 PM (g46Vj)
Posted by: Red Shirt at October 15, 2012 12:22 PM (FIDMq)
"505 For the record, I think we'll overcome these issues in Ohio, the fact that Obama barely won the state in 2008 doesn't speak well for his chances, especially since they now have a Voter ID law on the books and nearly 500k ineligible voters have been thrown off. But could I see a scenario where Romney comfortably wins the popular vote but loses because of shennanigans in Ohio? Yes."
Sounds very reassuring! Except that last part, of course.
The Dems crack me up on their sanctimonious Voter ID crap. They claim to be the defenders of minorities, but what they're literally doing is saying "blacks and other minorities are either too lazy or too incompetent to get a voter ID". It does not speak well for those demographic sectors that they put up with being talked about that way. If they had any self-respect, they'd kick somebody's ass for that.
It's really about milking the fraud, but they love to call themselves virtuous when they're committing their fascism.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 15, 2012 12:24 PM (4MJt/)
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Posted by: Ohio Dan` at October 15, 2012 01:18 PM (JKNDp)
Here in Colorado, I've noticed the Obama yard signs are disappearing, and the bumper stickers are becoming few and far between. Meanwhile Romney BANNERS (10 ft. '+) are being seen more and more. This is in the suburban areas. Out in the rural parts of the state, the is Zero support for TFG.
Boulder and Denver will not carry the day for the SCOAMT.
Call it a silent, but visible Preference Cascade.
Posted by: Joe Mama at October 15, 2012 01:35 PM (sYCCV)
1) WI and NH,
or
2) NV and IA.
These are the 2 other possible pathways. [or WI + NV] He does not need NH if he loses Ohio, or even 1 from Maine.
Losing OH gives Mitt a 23.7% chance of winning election according to 538.com, assuming he wins states noted above. If he wins Ohio and Colorado though, SCOAMF will be getting swept out the door.
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