October 08, 2012
— andy Lies by Obama and the media (BIRM).
See, that's the spin about the "$5 trillion in taxes" that the despicable Obama campaign came out with after Mitt Romney hit their strawman version of his tax plan like Curtis LeMay over Tokyo during last week's debate: Romney was just lying.
To set up the original talking point, which Obama repeated no fewer than three times in the debate, the Obama campaign represented a hacktastic, left-leaning study on Romney's plan as "independent" and "non-partisan". Of course their media mouthpieces dutifully repeated these claims ... one instance of which is now being used in an ad that's too shameless for even NBC to stomach. And that's saying a lot.
In the clip used by the Obama campaign, [Andrea] Mitchell quotes a liberal groupÂ’s claim that RomneyÂ’s tax plan will cost $4.8 trillion and will therefore raise taxes on the middle class, a charge that other, more credible analysts, have debunked. This is a point on which even liberal fact checkers have concluded that the DemocratsÂ’ pants are on fire, but Mitchell loyally spouted the allegation on the air as if it were objective fact.
And, never to be deterred when called out on these low tactics, they're continuing to misrepresent the plan in fundraising emails.
"Even the studies that Romney has cited to claim his plan adds up still show he would need to raise middle-class taxes," said the Obama campaign press release. "In fact, Harvard economist Martin Feldstein and Princeton economist Harvey Rosen both concede that paying for RomneyÂ’s tax cuts would require large tax increases on families making between $100,000 and $200,000."But that's not true. Princeton professor Harvey Rosen tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD in an email that the Obama campaign is misrepresenting his paper on Romney's tax plan ...
So don't forget, Mitt Romney lies.
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Posted by: Spin at October 08, 2012 10:45 AM (F6KtL)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 08, 2012 10:45 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 08, 2012 10:46 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 10:48 AM (e7w2X)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 08, 2012 10:49 AM (0muQ0)
Posted by: The MSM at October 08, 2012 10:49 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 10:49 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: The Race Card at October 08, 2012 10:49 AM (F6KtL)
Posted by: fluffy at October 08, 2012 10:50 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 10:51 AM (5DR1j)
She looks like she gets it
A lot.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 02:49 PM (GQ8sn)
FIFY
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 10:52 AM (da5Wo)
I WON BITCH!
I am ENTITLED to MY OWN Facts.
You racists dont like it?
Try and vote me out and I will open up a can of Hugo Chavez on you.
Posted by: El Presidente Barack Hugo Chavez Obama the Light Bringer and giver of Unicorn Farts Skittles and Fre at October 08, 2012 10:53 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 08, 2012 10:53 AM (wIgpo)
Posted by: fluffy at October 08, 2012 10:53 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: The 57th State at October 08, 2012 10:54 AM (F6KtL)
Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at October 08, 2012 10:55 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: AJ4coco at October 08, 2012 10:55 AM (EvT57)
http://www.headostate.com
I wish it came in another color though so i could get one for my buddy Chris Matthews.
Posted by: Andrea Mitchell, Lover of Obamacock at October 08, 2012 10:56 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 10:56 AM (VtjlW)
I suggest taking a moron field trip to a few scenic, lib websites where we could point this out. Any suggestions?
Posted by: LASue at October 08, 2012 10:56 AM (pWeX5)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2012 10:57 AM (eIwHr)
Posted by: kawfytawk at October 08, 2012 10:57 AM (JWLqy)
Romney is thinking of only income taxes. The problem is that since roughly half of Americans pay no income taxes they don't have skin in that game.
Romney needs to change the definition:
NEW DEFINITION OF TAXES: "Anything the government does which costs you money."
Now, according to this broader and better definition, unemployment becomes a 100% tax, rising food prices become a huge tax increase, doubling of gasoline prices become a huge tax increase.
This way Romney can show non-income tax payers how Obama's failed policies are taxing them the most.
A simple redefinition of a term could win Romney this race.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 08, 2012 10:57 AM (hlUJY)
Holy carp!
1) That's a huge "mischaracterization."
2) Why isn't Romney citing this guy by name saying, "Hey, I can make my tax-rate cuts revenue neutral, and this guy agrees."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 10:57 AM (5DR1j)
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2012 10:57 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 08, 2012 10:58 AM (B/2Sq)
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2012 10:59 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: That's MR. TSUNAMI to you. at October 08, 2012 10:59 AM (lOmbq)
NEWSWEEK SPIKED THE STORY!
NEWSWEEK SPIKED THE STORY!
NEWSWEEK SPIKED THE STORY!
NEWSWEEK SPIKED THE STORY!
NEWSWEEK SPIKED THE STORY!
NEWSWEEK SPIKED THE STORY!
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA at October 08, 2012 10:59 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 11:00 AM (h4T0N)
A few points:
1) Obama STILL has no record to run on.
2) Obama is STILL a lousy debater.
3) Obama is STILL intellectually inferior to Romney.
That being said, Ryan should absolutely destroy Biden.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 08, 2012 11:00 AM (hlUJY)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 11:00 AM (e7w2X)
Posted by: little billy badass at October 08, 2012 11:00 AM (xXhWA)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 08, 2012 11:00 AM (eIwHr)
Posted by: MJ at October 08, 2012 11:00 AM (TR60b)
I see him.
Paul, get my chainsaw.
Posted by: 'Razor' Mitt Romney at October 08, 2012 11:00 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Rod Stewart at October 08, 2012 11:01 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Adam at October 08, 2012 11:01 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 08, 2012 11:02 AM (qx7YW)
Posted by: Jay at October 08, 2012 11:02 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Jean at October 08, 2012 11:02 AM (pmDdf)
Obama's team of idiots makes the assumption that Romney will balance the budget year one. And, in so doing will have o make up all tax cuts by taxing some other group. Like I said.. idiots.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 08, 2012 11:03 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2012 02:59 PM (6o4Fb)
I bet she's a squirter that can write her name in the snow.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 08, 2012 11:03 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 08, 2012 11:03 AM (0muQ0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 11:03 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 08, 2012 11:03 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Warren G. Harding, Presidential Mac Daddy at October 08, 2012 11:04 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA at October 08, 2012 11:04 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Adam at October 08, 2012 03:01 PM (/YJYi)
Just read some of the reports about how Michelle thinks the Secret Service is there as her own personal servant and I think you'll have your answer.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 08, 2012 11:05 AM (UK9cE)
Everyone of them is getting the shits.
Posted by: Mitt Fucking Romney at October 08, 2012 11:05 AM (0muQ0)
Am I the only tenured, first-in-my-class, white, divorced, gay-momma-ing, photo-takin', remarried white wine sippin' law perfesser in the whole fucking world who finds this sort of shit ugly?
It is ugly.
Posted by: Ann Outhouse at October 08, 2012 11:05 AM (ufLRj)
Seems to me all the excuses and accusations about Romney lying not only look pathetic to the millions who watched, but are actually counterproductive. If O would have just admitted he blew it and said he'd do better in the next debate, the story might have died down. Only a leader confident of his abilities could say that though, and that's not our dear little O.
Posted by: Mayday at October 08, 2012 11:05 AM (F3s39)
Clearly he's trying to kill them with transfats. That bastard.
Posted by: alexthechick[/i]
No, he's already given them cancer at first glance. He's just keeping them alive.
For now.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 11:06 AM (e7w2X)
You are a very confused woman.
Not as confused as Andrew Sullivan or David Frum but confused you are!
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 08, 2012 11:07 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know at October 08, 2012 11:07 AM (j1z2L)
Posted by: Rod Stewart at October 08, 2012 11:08 AM (96M6e)
Proggs have no imagination. None.
You want my attentions? Dress like Roosevelt Franklin. Or Bruno. Or Forgetful Jones.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 08, 2012 11:08 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA at October 08, 2012 02:59 PM (ovpNn)
Surprise, surprise. This should now be the story, along with the criminal behavior of this administration.
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 11:09 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Adam at October 08, 2012 11:09 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: MJ at October 08, 2012 11:09 AM (TR60b)
Today Obama is up 5. You released figures showing O+5 on 9/30 - 10/2, and I'll assume he was also O+5 on 10/3, before they were even on 10/4-10/6.
To get to O+5 on a 7 day forecast, you need a total of +35 points over the 7 days, you had four days of +5, so yesterday O had to have been a +15 favorite. Um, I don't think that happened.
Posted by: Gallup at October 08, 2012 11:09 AM (ZZ0d1)
Megyn Kelly just showed a picture of Mitt Romney walking around the campaign plane handing out lunch to reporters.
Chick-Fil-A mayhaps? 'Cause that would be teh shizzle.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 11:10 AM (lOmbq)
That right there should tell you that they DON'T CARE about fact. Its all about the narrative.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 08, 2012 11:10 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA at October 08, 2012 02:59 PM (ovpNn)
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Link please. I got nothing.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 08, 2012 11:11 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 08, 2012 11:11 AM (GBXon)
Megyn Kelly just showed a picture of Mitt Romney walking around the campaign plane handing out lunch to reporters.
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No, really. There's nothing wrong with the chocolate pieces. *snicker*
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 11:12 AM (h4T0N)
Just read some of the reports about how Michelle thinks the Secret Service is there as her own personal servant and I think you'll have your answer.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 08, 2012 03:05 PM (UK9cE)
It perplexes me that the Dems consistently shit all over the folks who are tasked with jumping in front of bullets for them. From a selfishly practical standpoint, wouldn't it be smart to treat the USSS with respect, even if you don't feel that way? That'd go a long ways towards keeping their reflexes up if the worst were to happen.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 08, 2012 11:13 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: LP at October 08, 2012 11:13 AM (pR8WM)
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA at October 08, 2012 02:59 PM (ovpNn)
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Link please. I got nothing.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 08, 2012 03:11 PM (BVkEs)
It will be posted shortly here on ace. I happened to do a page refresh at the site and saw it and then they quickly took it down. I think they are adding outrage and facts to it before they post it back up.
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA SUCKS OBAMA COCK FROM BOTH ENDS at October 08, 2012 11:13 AM (ovpNn)
youtube.com/ watch?v= dS1N6bLriRc
(remove the two spaces)
Posted by: Mayday at October 08, 2012 11:14 AM (F3s39)
It would be fitting if Drudge posted a copy of the spiked story on Obama Fundraising. Wasn't that how he got his first big break?
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 11:15 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 11:15 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Hopeless at October 08, 2012 11:15 AM (nhIFl)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47_%28number%29#As_an_in-joke
Most interesting. Never noticed it before...
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 08, 2012 03:11 PM (GBXon)
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Wow. I feel like I've just read a sermon by Louis Farrakhan.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 11:15 AM (h4T0N)
Head-fake, perhaps?
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 08, 2012 11:16 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 11:16 AM (5DR1j)
The DMM has conveniently forgotten that part where Mitt mentioned cutting spending.
"My criteria for any government programs is, Is it worth borrowing from China to pay for?"
or words to that effect.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 08, 2012 11:16 AM (lOmbq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know at October 08, 2012 11:18 AM (j1z2L)
Why don't you just put sheets over your heads?
Posted by: MSNBC at October 08, 2012 03:17 PM (z9HTb)
I got the pillow case
Just need to find the scissors
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA SUCKS OBAMA COCK FROM BOTH ENDS at October 08, 2012 11:18 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA at October 08, 2012 02:59 PM
WHY DON'T YOU TRUST US!!! WAHHHH
Chuck Todd, Ben Smith Lament Lack of Trust In Institutions They Helped Destroy
http://tinyurl.com/8n2ol8v
Posted by: Chuck Todd at October 08, 2012 11:18 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: steevy at October 08, 2012 11:19 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: JDTAY at October 08, 2012 11:19 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 03:16 PM (5DR1j)
The story about obama disabling card verification and taking massive overseas donations....aka illegal
Posted by: UNBIASED MEDIA SUCKS OBAMA COCK FROM BOTH ENDS at October 08, 2012 11:19 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 03:16 PM (5DR1j)
Expose on al-obama's ILLEGAL campaign contributions. Damnit. Same thing as 2008, but supposedly, it was going to be reported this time, with facts even.
Posted by: Havedash at October 08, 2012 11:19 AM (F0WNa)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 11:19 AM (RSG1I)
Posted by: Truman North at October 08, 2012 11:20 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Nighthawk at October 08, 2012 11:20 AM (t2GE8)
Our estimated inventory of fresh chickens will be exhausted by Oct 10th.
Please switch to Honey Badgers or Porcupines.
Thanks,
The Chickens
Posted by: Society of Abused Chickens at October 08, 2012 11:21 AM (+I8Mq)
Move over Obama girl. Take a look at this "Do the Paul Ryan" video.
youtube.com/watch?v=dS1N6bLriRc
Posted by: Mayday at October 08, 2012 03:14 PM (F3s39)
This is pretty good. Funny, sort of retro hip.
Ace, this would be a good news late afternoon break posting.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 11:21 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 08, 2012 11:21 AM (J6kXj)
Posted by: Concerned Lifelong Republican at October 08, 2012 11:21 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 11:21 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Fritz at October 08, 2012 11:21 AM (/ZZCn)
It would be fitting if Drudge posteda copy of the spiked story on Obama Fundraising. Wasn't that how he got his first big break?
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 03:15 PM (zLp5I)
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Yes it was. And that would indeed be fitting.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 08, 2012 11:22 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 08, 2012 03:00 PM (hlUJY) "
Here's my (usually wrong) prophecy of the debate:
The next debate will be more to Soetero's strengths (I think), since it is a heavily scripted townhall and the media, seeing what a feeble catamite Soetero is, will structure things to protect him. The medihadis will try to keep Barry away from any interaction with Romney (aside from the even-as-now scripted moment when Barry will launch into an indignant attack at Romney for being a 'liar'. The narrative will be that Barry has 'gotten back' his energy and is now ready to fight the Enemy).
I suspect that the press moderator will overcompensate for Jim Lehrer's thinkcrime and will come off looking like a partisan psycho as she screams at Mitt to be quiet.
The audience will be moonbat liberals with questions straight from TalkingPointsMemo. Mitt will be answering questions about his dog, Bain, the 47%, and Big Bird. Obama will be answering questions about his pecks, killing Bin Laden, and Michelle. Libya will be mentioned by Romney and have about thirty seconds to talk.
Provided Obama is able to keep from beclowning himself again, the press will declare he is 'back.'
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2012 11:22 AM (TpXEI)
Lies by Obama and the media (BIRM)
Oh, I see what you did there . . .
Posted by: c'mon at October 08, 2012 11:22 AM (W2qJe)
We could call it "the Alternative Media," perhaps...
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 11:23 AM (5DR1j)
----Yes it was. And that would indeed be fitting.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 08, 2012 03:22 PM (BVkEs)
I think Drudge would have if he thought there was anything to it. He's not one to shy away...
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 11:23 AM (9+ccr)
More like Ike loved Tina.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 08, 2012 11:23 AM (/kI1Q)
I guess that could be true. There are like a brazillian Venezuelans.
Posted by: Slow (BFD) Joe at October 08, 2012 11:23 AM (QW+AD)
The left just keep on plunking that chicken don't they.
Well actually it would have been fun to see the crowd Pluck the guys big bird costume.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 08, 2012 11:23 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 08, 2012 11:23 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: CNN at October 08, 2012 11:24 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: maddogg at October 08, 2012 11:24 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: JDTAY at October 08, 2012 11:24 AM (a0nis)
How will you take care of us? We're your chilllldrennnn !!
Posted by: Ponytail Guy in 92 Debate at October 08, 2012 11:24 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Gergle at October 08, 2012 11:26 AM (IoNBC)
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 08, 2012 02:49 PM
If you're talkin' Cage Match, I'm all for it!
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 08, 2012 11:26 AM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: fixerupper at October 08, 2012 11:26 AM (ffV1/)
Okay, "feeble catamite" is going to be my go-to insult from now on. As in, "Jordan is a feeble catamite." Thanks dude!
Posted by: joncelli at October 08, 2012 11:26 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 03:19 PM
When you say "pay for tax cuts", it exposes you as a drone who recites lefty talking points by rote
Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2012 11:27 AM (wwsoB)
It would be fitting if Drudge posteda copy of the spiked story on Obama Fundraising. Wasn't that how he got his first big break?
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 03:15 PM (zLp5I)
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One problem. Who has the rights to this story? If Newsweek has sole rights, we're SOL.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 11:27 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 11:28 AM (VtjlW)
OT. Was talking to an Argentinian friend this morning. She is terrified of the implications of Chavez's reelection for her country. And she is appalled at the fact that Obama could possibly get a second term. She said something to the effect of "I can't believe people bought that hopey changey garbage." She also ranted on how Obama's apologies have damaged the West as a whole, and is sick of the reflexive sucking-up to the pro-burka crowd.
So, here's a woman who lives in South America who has a better perspective on our current state of affairs than ~50 percent of our country.
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 03:15 PM (96M6e)
Have you seen the Peronist idiot running their country? There are OWS/52% people in Argentina too. And they are running the country into the ground. They are getting another hyper-inflation scenario running again.
The same dingbats gave Chavez a Venezuealan victory yesterday.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 11:28 AM (zLp5I)
Hi Jordan. Is the Texas Legislature still in session?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 08, 2012 11:29 AM (e7w2X)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 03:23 PM (5DR1j)
While we're spit balling, people should get their own little webpages where the could post about things. You know, give their takes and opinions on whatever topic they wanted.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 08, 2012 11:29 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 03:28 PM (VtjlW)
I don't know about that but I know Tim Kaine is a republican!
Posted by: Jon at October 08, 2012 11:29 AM (/YJYi)
Maybe not. If Drudge can say, "Newsweek spiked a story, we got pre-release copy, and then they spiked it- here's a summary" that changes it considerably.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 11:29 AM (5DR1j)
Not being a lib shilling for Choom Boy, I can't all it "unexpected."
read here: http://bit.ly/R9h3ta
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 08, 2012 11:29 AM (ZgX/g)
Regarding the Stacey Dash (goddamn those tits...) hullaballoo, one of the twitter support hashtags has a tweet from none other than Nick Searcy. Now, if you're like BackwardsBoy and have no clue who he is and how he's relevant to the Horde HQ, then let me explain...
Nick Searcy is an actor and a Moron commentor. That's right! He's been spotted right here in the comments section, posting a few times in the past year or so. He is currently on FX's show "Justified" with Timothy Olyphant. He's also been spotted on several anti-obama or anti-democrat vids, mostly satirical in nature, along with other fellow Hollywood conservatives.
Nick, if you're reading this then hats off to you and all the other H-wood cons! I look forward to next season's Justified. Keep up the good work with Art!
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 11:29 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 11:30 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012
Supossedly the Daily beast was in on the story too...
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 08, 2012 11:30 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: matt foley at October 08, 2012 11:30 AM (X69df)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 11:30 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Truman North at October 08, 2012 11:31 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Adam at October 08, 2012 11:31 AM (/YJYi)
That's what she said. FWIW, she's a very smart, well-educated woman who has lived in London and Spain.
Both countries are on opposite ends of the SA continent. Is she worried about some kind of direct action to Venezuela's neighbours?
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 11:32 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 11:32 AM (RSG1I)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 08, 2012 11:32 AM (UZQM8)
One engine failure thus far gives a engine success rate of 97%. The chance of -two- failures would then be 0.03 * 0.03 = 0.09%. And you actually need -three- failures to cause a complete scrub.
True: More engines means a higher chance of individual failure. But more engines also can mean a higher chance of overall success.
Posted by: Al at October 08, 2012 11:33 AM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 11:33 AM (96M6e)
That's why I'm looking forward to the FP debate. As soon as obama comes with "Romney is lying", all Mitt has to do is ask what the hell happened in Libya and TFG will be reduced to sounding like Porky Pig.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 11:34 AM (GQ8sn)
1. Iran
2. Egypt
3. Israel
4. Libya
5. Syria
6. Russia
7. China
8. ???
Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at October 08, 2012 11:34 AM (PNDql)
I thought I was so smart, that I was going to catch the guy lying . . . .
"There you go again."
GD you, GD you all to hell.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at October 08, 2012 11:34 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 11:34 AM (VtjlW)
155 here's what seems pretty clear, and it was perfectly obvious during the debate. obama can't refute what romney says because he doesn't understand it well enough to dismantle the arguments, even if what romney said was completely false.
this is probably because obama didn't have anything to do with actually writing his talking points (ie. debate notes) and didn't participate in formulating any part of whatever plan he's claiming that he has - and i'd be surprised if he actually had a plan at all...
to do anything. this bodes well for romney in the next debate because it's nearly certain that romney probably put together most of his own plan, and thus implicitly understands it, including the calculations undergirding it. it's pretty difficult to attack someone's plan on bogus details or lies when that person already is familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of what he's proposing.
Posted by: matt foley at October 08, 2012 03:30 PM (X69df)
^^^This^^^
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 11:35 AM (zLp5I)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 08, 2012 11:36 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 11:36 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: The Desperate Twatwaffles at October 08, 2012 11:36 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 03:30 PM (96M6e)
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She's lived in London and Spain? She must be really smart.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 11:36 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 11:36 AM (96M6e)
Don't tease me.
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 11:38 AM (GQ8sn)
You see no value difference between Big Bird and national defense?
National defense is one of the few enumerated powers specifically delegated to the federal government. Owning a TV channel and paying for abortions seem to be missing.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 03:36 PM (TMB3S)
You're talking to Jordan. Don't hope for a coherent, sensible reply.
Posted by: Adam at October 08, 2012 11:38 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 08, 2012 11:38 AM (BVkEs)
still show he would need to raise middle-class taxes," said the Obama campaign press release.
They say that like raising taxes is a bad thing, something that they would never do.
Now all we're doing is arguing over who is in "the middle class." The lefties' definition: anyone who has any money, yet doesn't have enough to give him enough clout with the government to weasel out of taxes. If so, welcome to "the middle class," sucker!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 08, 2012 11:38 AM (U+DUu)
Nick Searcy has been awesome on 'Justified'.
That episode where he 'interogated' the scumbag who'd ratted out a fellow witness protection member...was excellent!
Nick Searcy is good in pretty much everything he does.
Great actor.
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 11:38 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 03:32 PM (RSG1I) "
Hey look everybody, the Blue Dogs are back!
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2012 11:38 AM (TpXEI)
Well to the left our warmongering soldiers are all running around killing brown babies. So there may be a link there.
/off sarc
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 08, 2012 11:39 AM (tf9Ne)
That's weird. Argentina's government has entered the Flail stage of the Socialist Mismanagement Cycle. And she is worried about Obama?
Posted by: Invictus at October 08, 2012 11:39 AM (OQpzc)
Ace, this would be a good news late afternoon break posting.
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Finally got someone to watch it (thx rd). I think it's cute and catchy and will go viral.
Posted by: Mayday at October 08, 2012 11:39 AM (F3s39)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 11:39 AM (96M6e)
You mean that her husband, former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, didn't straighten her out
Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Unexpectedly” Obama at October 08, 2012 11:40 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: joeindc44 finds obama's debate prep to be vile, particularly vile at October 08, 2012 11:40 AM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 11:40 AM (TMB3S)
While we're spit balling, people should get their own little webpages where the could post about things. You know, give their takes and opinions on whatever topic they wanted.
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Cool. And, and, they could open up their page to astute comments by highly intelligent readers. An upscale conversation. How refreshing would that be?
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 11:41 AM (h4T0N)
That episode where he 'interogated' the scumbag who'd ratted out a fellowwitness protection member...was excellent!
What about that episode where he has to chase down that old criminal with the oxygen tank? LOLOLOL!!! The greatest foot chase in all of tv history!!!
"Awww shit, you're gonna make me run?"
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 11:41 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 03:36 PM (96M6e)
Wonder what's plan "B" when they have no more free shit to hand out.
Posted by: YIKES! at October 08, 2012 11:41 AM (6v/Tu)
How did this become a meme at the HQ?
Hi, Jordan! Is the Texas Legislature still in session?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 08, 2012 11:41 AM (5DR1j)
We never lie or misrepresent when running for office, but on occasion we're been forced to dispute Reagan facts, Bush (2) facts, and now Romney facts. When will these republicans learn we're always right.
Posted by: David Axeldick, Obama Butt Boy at October 08, 2012 11:41 AM (lDWQr)
The problem is that Spacex ain't man-rated, so it will always be limited to hauling cargo. They say they can man-rate one, but expect the government to chip in $2.5B to do it, and contract to buy boosters from them afterward.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 08, 2012 11:43 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 03:39 PM (96M6e)
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I knew what you meant. Just feeling exceptionally cynical today.
Posted by: Soona at October 08, 2012 11:43 AM (h4T0N)
Posted by: Truman North at October 08, 2012 11:44 AM (I2LwF)
190....What about that episode where he has to chase down that old criminal with the oxygen tank? LOLOLOL!!! The greatest foot chase in all of tv history!!!
"Awww shit, you're gonna make me run?"
That was a hilarious scene.
Nick Searcy often has the best lines in show!
Posted by: wheatie at October 08, 2012 11:46 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 08, 2012 03:36 PM (TMB3S) "
Pfft, yeah, if you buy into that 'Constitution' thing.
'Across the board' spending cuts is a dumb proposition. In exchange for giving up some of our security, Democrats will agree to not use the federal treasury as a piggy bank to dole out money to voting blocks? Wow, what a great deal.
How about we just stop the practice of vote buying which is bankrupting the country?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2012 11:47 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: jakeman at October 08, 2012 11:47 AM (96M6e)
The same dingbats gave Chavez a Venezuealan victory yesterday.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 03:28 PM
Cristina Fernandez-Kirchner is Obama with Tits
Posted by: kbdabear at October 08, 2012 11:47 AM (wwsoB)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 11:48 AM (RSG1I)
Aren't you getting tired of being raped by the Trotskyites running the Democratic Party?
Defense is something the Constitution says is the feds job. Not paying for some idiot's birth control or socialist propaganda radio.
$16 trillion dollars, Mister. That is how much money O'Barky had blown in four years. On crap.
If you want to be fiscally conservative join the Republican party, or STFU and enjoy your DNC a-raping.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 08, 2012 11:48 AM (wYVte)
Heh. There were several times during the past seasons where he tells Raylen that a female witness is about to testify and that her statements are enough to put someone away......unless Raylen had sex with her before.
"Art, uhhh...."
".....goddamn it Raylen!"
Posted by: EC at October 08, 2012 11:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 03:48 PM (RSG1I)
"Yes, I know we are behind on the mortgage, honey. So I tell you what: if you agree to stop spending money on food and I will stop spending it on hookers and drugs. Fair is fair after all."
Maybe some things are worth spending money on and some things aren't? I'd much rather have that debate than pursue this across the board cut nonsense.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 08, 2012 11:51 AM (TpXEI)
$16 trillion dollars, Mister. That is how much money O'Barky had blown in four years. On crap.
If you want to be fiscally conservative join the Republican party, or STFU and enjoy your DNC a-raping.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 08, 2012 03:48 PM (wYVte)
Do not exaggerate. It was only $6 Trillion . The previous 200 years ran up $10 Trillion. Barky only added 1/3 of it in 4 years.
Posted by: rd does not believe the MFM at October 08, 2012 11:53 AM (zLp5I)
Which is dead wrong, and you know it, Jordan. End all Democrat supported programs first. reform entitlements. Then make cuts in Defense.
Remove every last Democrat from office, and we will balance the budget, pay the debt off, and start demonitizing all that Zimbabwe paper the fed and the treasury created.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 08, 2012 11:53 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 08, 2012 11:55 AM (NO6cW)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 08, 2012 11:55 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 11:56 AM (RSG1I)
the one thing obama does understand is politics but only to the extent that he can't stand anyone with politics other than his own. he really doesn't understand much of the policy details, which is exactly where romney needs to beat him senseless in the coming debates. if anyone needs proof, look how he was pwned by paul ryan during the obamacare meetings pre-implementation or his actual involvement in any piece of legislation aside from bribing members of his own party to vote for it. the man simply is not that bright or is just staggeringly lazy for the most powerful office in the western world.
Posted by: matt foley at October 08, 2012 11:56 AM (2WDMC)
-SLAP
Only inside the Democratic Party Jordan.
The Republicans are more than willing to cut spending. Obama and Reid have rejected every budget sent them. So fuck them. They own this turd, and they can eat it.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 08, 2012 11:58 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 11:59 AM (RSG1I)
Do the Paul Ryan? How about "Do Paul Ryan"?
Posted by: All the Crazy Liberal Feminists at October 08, 2012 12:01 PM (wqNKh)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque Wireless Edition at October 08, 2012 12:01 PM (BpMCC)
Maybe some things are worth spending money on and some things aren't?
Frisbee golf courses and gay movie festivals in SF, vs. defending against terrorism ...
I know, too close to call, right?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 08, 2012 12:01 PM (U+DUu)
Posted by: matt foley at October 08, 2012 12:02 PM (2WDMC)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 12:03 PM (RSG1I)
Obama and Reid have rejected every budget sent them.
In fairness, the Republican budget proposals received strong bipartisan support compared to Barry's, which went down in the Senate 97-0 and 99-0.
OTOH, he's still got his shutout going.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 08, 2012 12:03 PM (U+DUu)
He will take us back to 2008 deficit spending levels.
Right now, that looks like "up."
I love how Reds suddenly become all fiscally conservative deficit hawks when Americans propose something in the right direction, but perhaps not far enough.
But let a fellow Red propose something in the wrong direction, and they instantly adopt the financial probity of drunken sailors in a whorehouse with someone else's credit card.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 08, 2012 12:09 PM (U+DUu)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 12:12 PM (RSG1I)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque Wireless Edition at October 08, 2012 12:16 PM (BpMCC)
Posted by: Jordan at October 08, 2012 12:20 PM (RSG1I)
You're soaking in it!
Funny, this could apply to nearly every post. I may never have to use another sockpuppet again.
Posted by: Madge at October 08, 2012 12:41 PM (BHM5V)
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/153017/
i'm assuming that the argument is that bush was solely responsible for '09 spending? pedantic on one hand and pathetically ridiculous on the other.
Posted by: matt foley at October 08, 2012 12:54 PM (nxTmu)
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