1 The other idiots can't even get on the ballot.

Look at this.

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/01/120110_ballotaccess.jpg

2

. And I supported Romney then, by the way, because I wanted to defeat McCain

Yeah. So did I.

3 Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

4 What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

5

>>>Rush said Newt is no longer running for president, but just running a vengeance campaign against Romney.

 

Thats kind of my feeling. He started out running for book tour. He was suprised as anyone when he got a Ant-Romney bounce. Now he's bitter that the prize has been snatched from his fat little fingers.

6 He also pointed out how Perry has gone all dumbass socialist/obama!!!

7

The Rooster goes with the hen...

so ,who has sex with the Chicken?

8 I hate what Perry and Gingrich are doing with the Bain Capital attacks.  I was hoping Perry would get smarter as the campaign progressed, but he's only getting dumber.  He looked so good on paper, but I've pretty much given up on him.

Romney?  Blecch.  But he's starting to look inevitable.

9 So what if we substituted Bruce Campbell for Romney? Would that work? Also, for realz prediction: Romney would choose Kasich for VP.

10

Posted by: aquaviva at January 10, 2012 03:00 PM (hkXlB)

 

How you doin'?

11

Team.  Meteor. 

I was thinking about this at lunch today and it's a problem I do not know how to answer.  Bain is going to be a problem for Romney in the general, presuming he's the nom.  Like it or not, he is going to be portrayed as Snidely Whiplash.  The firing people comment feeds into that.

We've gone round and round here about how to deal with the reality that everything, every single thing, that a Republican says or does will be cast in the worst possible light.  Tempermentally, I am in the fuck 'em and fight back camp.  Practically, that's not always possible.  I do not know what the workable solution is.  It's all well and good to say reject the premise of the question, but then how to you respond to the charge without coming across as trying to change the subject?  As I said, I don't know.

I'm liking my throw jarts at them idea more and more.

12 Well, at least whoever survives this bloodbath will be ready to do battle with the filthy socialist parasites. Combat training!

13 Want a 66 R senate and a 304 R house and Obama president.

14 So, if Obama brings up Bain Capital, Romney can bring up Solyndra, Lehman Brothers, and the Chevy Volt, and we can have a nice debate over Venture Capitalism versus Venture Socialism.

15 Romney needs to call Newt and promise to pay his campaign debts and have him start going off on the press and Obama - Newt should be the attack dog because he is good at it and makes good soundbites. And won't be the candidate.

16 The non-Romneys have a "Whale Wars" level of Stupid about them. In the show "Whale Wars" the hippies who were lobbing stuff at the whalers were astonished - literally - that the Japanese whalers threw stuff back at the them. . I'm against Obama - if Newt is now running a vanity campaign, fuck him.

17

whoever survives this bloodbath will be ready to do battle with the filthy socialist parasites

 

Mitt Romney 2012 :  Bain'd and Able

18 All I know is that it’s extremely important that we get this opportunistic, pro-life (today)/pro-choice (tomorrow), stimulus-loving, anthropogenic global warming believing, self-professed “progressive” say-anything flip-flopper who supports banning guns and using the threat of fines or violence to force people to purchase a private corporation’s product out of the White House.

19 from the preceding dead thread

291 278
That's why Newt is so upset, I believe.
Because he lost his huge lead in FL.

I think Newt was hoping for FL to be his big win that would propel him towards the nom.

Krauthammer is obviously an AOSHQ reader.  He had a great quote about Gingrich, and how his motivation is now to hurt Romney, since the nomination is out of his reach.  He describes Romney as his white whale, and Gingrich as Ahab.  Good stuff.

20 The anti-capitalist attacks from the field have done something I didn't think possible:  Get me excited to vote for Mitt.

21
I truly believe that Rush's muse is AoS and the AoS comment threads.

22 If I'm around during the day, for every post we do on one of our own, I'll find something on Obama. Because there's too much material and we need to stay focused on The Evil Incarnate^TM

Like this --

Obama plays the race card at fundraiser Monday night.

Here's what he said --

Everything we fought for during the last election is at stake in this election. The very core of what this country stands for is on the line — the basic promise that no matter what you look like, no matter where you come from, this is a place where you could make it if you try.

link to the White House Dossier

23 By at least one measure, the world just got that much closer to apocalypse. The Doomsday Clock, a figurative timepiece used as a barometer of humankindÂ’s fate, was moved one minute closer to midnight on Tuesday, the first time it has been nudged forward since 2007. It is now 11:55, five minutes before the appointed hour. The re-setting of the clock has become something of a gimmick in recent years, carried out by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, a group established to raise awareness about the perils of nuclear weaponry, and aimed at warning the public about various catastrophic dangers.

24 So, if Obama brings up Bain Capital, Romney can bring up Solyndra, Lehman Brothers, and the Chevy Volt, and we can have a nice debate over Venture Capitalism versus Venture Socialism.

This is AoS comment board. Snark > Common Sense.  Get with the program.

Romney is a RINO-1%-er !!111!!!eleventy!!!111

25 Well, as much as I dislike the line of attack that Gingrich and perry have taken against Romney, we are at least going to see how well Romney handles a real attack from the left. If he doesn't handle it well, then it is going to be hard to take his rumored electibility seriously.

26 You wanted your battle between the Socialist Jerk, and the free-market decent guy?  GAME ON.

27 Ron Paul runs into anti-Zionist rabbi amid Israel policy debate Republican presidential hopeful holds chance meeting with top Neturei Karta rabbi, who told him Judaism shouldn't turn into a nationality, to which Paul replies, 'Good advice.' And the hits just keep on coming

28 well if bain is the new halliburton.....invest in bain!!!!!!

29 If Romney can't "defend" what he did at Bain now, how is he going to win in November?

In 2008, Huckabee stayed in the race only to deny Romney the presidency. Huckabee had been mathematically eliminated; Romney had not.

Newt is doing Romney and the primary a favor. If Romney can't cut it, someone including Newt, can still be the nominee.

30 Rush also mentioned he was worried that Romney is Nixon II if that's not a dig i don't know what is.

31 Okay - great. "here, Mr. and Mrs.Obama ... just sign your lease on the dotted line for another four years.and you can continue to live in the Whitehouse.." Everyone who blogs on the right has been so smart, so PURE. Guess what it gets us? Obama the dimwit socialist and God knows what else when he does not have to face re-election. You think these recess appts are not constitutional? Just wait! I am beginning to doubt we can EVER regain the Whitehouse - everybody is so damn picky. Face it, Romney PREPARED for a run at the presidency - everyone else entered (including PERRY) and flew by the seat of their pants or skirt. ( I am a Paul Ryan girl myself)

32 BTW the Corner says Santorum refused to pile on re: Bain firings, but I guess that's because he already screwed the pooch on the subjecta and is trying back off.

33 Also, for realz prediction: Romney would choose Kasich for VP.

Posted by: blaster at January 10, 2012 03:02 PM (7vSU0)

he'll pick the VA guv

34 15 So, if Obama brings up Bain Capital, Romney can bring up Solyndra, Lehman Brothers, and the Chevy Volt, and we can have a nice debate over Venture Capitalism versus Venture Socialism.
  That only works if our guy has the stones and the brains to bring that up.  But the Marquis of Queensbury has forbidden it!

35

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 10, 2012 03:08 PM (sEvRn)

So Perry and Newt are just a flight simulator for the real trip?

36

I just want it recorded that you heard it here first (unless you heard it somewhere else, in which case screw you all), but the more reasonable explanation for Perry's attack on Mitt from the LEFT is not that Perry suddenly forgot he's not a Democrat anymore, it's that Perry has been bought and paid for by Team Romney since the Iowa caucus. 

I like Perry, I have from Day 1, but I know he knows he's not going to win the nomination.  So he's in this for some other reason.  Could be his ego won't let him quit.  Could be he wants to be in line for 2016.  Could be Romney needs him in the race, and he's obliging as best suits Mitt. 

Now, which of those three is most compatible with Perry adopting the "capitalism is bad" attack?  It energizes conservatives, including Rush, to have Mitt being attacked on the ONE PART OF HIS RESUME that looks kind of good to conservatives!  I say "kind of" because we still don't really know what Mitt did at Bain, or why he's not out there himself vehemently defending his record as a venture capitalist. 

37
If Rush is right, then it is better for us for Rick Perry to hang in as long as possible.

If we lose Rick Perry, then Newt gets enough of a boost to let him linger until the convention. And that's not good.

Think about it. Do you want your nominee to get beat up by a malcontent on our own side AND to have to waste money on resources making sure Newt doesn't win?

38 Ironically, Romney is being pushed to the right from Newt's attack on his left contrary to what Rush said.

Unfortunately, Newt is dragging the GOP brand to the left with this style of populism as he calls it.

39 Krauthammer is obviously an AOSHQ reader.  He had a great quote about Gingrich, and how his motivation is now to hurt Romney, since the nomination is out of his reach.

How the F--k is Gingrich out of it? This is the second primary!

40 Smell the Mitten.

41 Well, as much as I dislike the line of attack that Gingrich and perry have taken against Romney, we are at least going to see how well Romney handles a real attack from the left.

Theoretically, in the general an attack from the left would be fought off by a unified right.  It's easier for any candidate to make a case for something if his own party isn't fighting him on principle.

In the general, if Romney is nominated, will Perry and Gingrich decide that firing people and profits are ok?   Or have they already salted that earth?

42 He will pick Kaisch if things are looking good and he is attacking OH, if he has to fight for VA things aren't looking so good. If he picks Walker, then you can order the pudding by the case.

43
One more week for all this talk of hope.

Because if Mitt wins SC, it's o-v-a, over.

44 Think about it. Do you want your nominee to get beat up by a malcontent on our own side AND to have to waste money on resources making sure Newt doesn't win? Posted by: from soothie's heart, i stab at thee at January 10, 2012 03:11 PM (sqkOB) I could live with that. but i've come to hate Mittens on a personal level.

45 In some sense, though, this primary drama is kind of fun.  It is even more popcorn-worthy than 2008.

Fun? Sheesh. I'm looking for a new hobby. I'm thinking knitting. Only because I'd fear for my liver if I took up the real hobby of choice.

46 And Rush also said, maybe the best conservative (true, pure, whatever) isn't in the race...yet...but: This series of attacks sure does crystallize whats wrong with the also-rans. Attacking Romney for business experience and firing people is insulting. It's the same thing with what Hunstman did. By attacking others using the language of our enemies, he's only worsened his position. You can be GOP and think there's MMCC, but you can't be a GOP candidate and think that people who know there's no such thing as MMCC are idiots. Spot the difference? It's what Newt! failed to do.

47 I already assumed this would be the most vicious campaign in my memory, but I didn't think it would be between the Repubs.

48 In other words:

This just in:  We're all fucked.

49 See Drudge for this:
Poll: Romney, Paul Tie Obama Everyone beats Sir Golfsalot.

50 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

51 It's cause Romney's an unlikable plastic dick.

52

I'm thinking knitting.

Knitting is a useful skill to have.

 

53 How ....is Gingrich out of it? This is the second primary!

If he hadn't already concluded that he was out of it, he wouldn't have adopted this approach, because after this, he has no political future.  It's a banzai charge.

54 I think that being the Haliburton of 2012 is more of a "so what" thing.  R's will always have some company with whom they are associated that earned money/fired people/stopped the union. I would rather have that and be able to say: "We shut down non performing companies in order to commit capital to performing companies" than what Obamagirlswing can say, which is "We gave loans of YOUR money to companies who were failing so they could spend it lavishly, take the money, and leave the workers with no jobs and unfunded pensions." If th GOP starts making that distinction LONG AND LOUD, we may overcome the inertia.

55

unlikable plastic dick.

 

Upossible.

56 *unpossible

57 Perry may be the last man standing.... I think there is a plot for a wild west flick here....

58

@13-

I think you are on to something there, and (since this is a Rush Post) Limbaugh brought up this same notion, that the Republicans are shooting for just that- an Obama presidency, with Republican majorities in the House and Senate, so that they can control the committees and money.

The biggest drawback I can see about this "strategy" is the Supreme Court; there will be at least 2, possibly 3 appointments coming over the next 4 years and the Republicans cannot afford to piss away this opportunity to shape the court for a generation.

I have not been a Romney supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but these latest attacks by Newt are really leaving me scratching my head over the motive and sanity of this particular strategy.

59 HOLD FAST or something.

60 I could live with that. but i've come to hate Mittens on a personal level.

Your logic is the biggest reason that women shouldn't have the right to vote.  Realize you probably are not a woman

<sarc>
Voting for someone based on "personal" reasons is so fucking anti-intellectual our founding fathers would be so proud of what this country has become ...
</sarc>

61 >>>This series of attacks sure does crystallize whats wrong with the also-rans. Attacking Romney for business experience and firing people is insulting. Attacking Perry on calling SS a Ponzi Scheme is insulting.

62 This just in:  We're all fucked.

The Almighty tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're focked.

63 @54 It's cause Romney's an unlikable plastic dick

heh, it's funny you should mention that.  Mitt's dick came up on CSPAN. 

64   54 It's cause Romney's an unlikable plastic dick.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (40rE+)

I would rather have an unlikeable platic dick than a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant. At least I want a cigarette after the plastic dick.

65   That only works if our guy has the stones and the brains to bring that up.  But the Marquis of Queensbury has forbidden it!
Posted by: Truman North at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (I2LwF)

And obviously Newt has the stones to go bare knuckle.

Ironically, Romney is being pushed to the right from Newt's attack on his left contrary to what Rush said.
Unfortunately, Newt is dragging the GOP brand to the left with this style of populism as he calls it.
Posted by: Valiant at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (aFxlY)

Exactly right about Rush, but the thing is that "this style of populism" is what Obama was going to use anyway. Newt will have the balls to point out that Obama's Chiefs of Staff, Daley and Rahm, are wall street insiders.

66 Is it too late for teh Fred!?

67 If he hadn't already concluded that he was out of it, he wouldn't have adopted this approach, because after this, he has no political future.  It's a banzai charge.

So he's all in for a piric victory?

68

"Rush also mentioned he was worried that Romney is Nixon II "

You say that like it is a bad thing. Asked McGovern what he thought of Nixon, if you could.

69 54 It's cause Romney's an unlikable plastic dick. Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (40rE+) Who has the endorsement of CharlieBrown'sDildo?

70 Mitt's dick came up on CSPAN. 

Posted by: Y-not, patriot with a chance of clouds at January 10, 2012 03:19 PM (5H6zj)

Bet that was embarrassing! Was Rep. Weiner there with a camera?

71 Brokered convention looks better every day

72 Attacking Perry on calling SS a Ponzi Scheme is insulting.

True that.  If anything ... Romney is flip flopper on capitalism.  Fuck, the guy can't even get those terms right.  We don't have "crony capitialism", we have "crony SOCIALISM" ... but non-PC terms can't be uttered by the plastic candidate ...

73

43 -

I'm actually in agreement with you on that, something I don't often do. I'm enjoying playing "guess their motivation" for the various tactics flown by various players, and not just the people on stage right now. 

74 If Romney can't "defend" what he did at Bain now, how is he going to win in November?
---------------------
He aint doing a lot of defending, it'll cost him the election. As I said in the previous thread, Mitt can not run on jobs or Obamacare. Basically, the Bain stuff shattered his aura of electability.

75 Obama just hired a hedge fund executive, Jack Lew, to be his chief of staff.. He replaced Bill Dailey who worked at JP Morgan. Rahm Emanuel, his 1st COS, sat on the board of Freddie Mac. That would be my response in the general.

76 This might be the most discouraging Republican primary in modern history for a hundred reasons, but B.O. still is a pathetic loser and malignant destroyer, and whoever wins will have that powerful message available, if he is smart enough to make it.

77 Remember people, most of America isn't paying a lot of attention to these details. They are hearing the major press reports and that's hit and miss too. It's the locals that are so important, and this is where a teaparty like group could help things a lot. Seems to me as if they are pretty much absent from the conversation. Saddens me a bit, that.

78 Ace @ 65, good point. That's one of the reasons during the ebb and flow of the race that people soured on Romney. Perry shit the bed in other ways when that issue was ongoing. At this point, if Laup Nor is strong on immigration, then i'd back him. I can handle being poor, I just don't want to lose my freedoms.

79 And obviously Newt has the stones to go bare knuckle.


Newt's going bare-bottom already.

80
But SS has been a third rail  issue for a long time.

Only the stupid Republicans would make capitalism/profit a third rail issue.

81 Like I said in the last thread, it's time for these fuckbags to tell me how they're going to defeat Obama and bring this country back to greatness.  I don't care about the muckraking anymore.  They all suck and we all know it.  They need to tell me how they're going to fix the 16 trillion in debt, keep the military well funded and prevent terrorist attacks on our soil.

82 So he's all in for a piric victory?

If by a pyrrhic victory you mean one without a rational political end other than spite and Gotterdammerung, then yes.

83 40 Ironically, Romney is being pushed to the right from Newt's attack on his left contrary to what Rush said.

Unfortunately, Newt is dragging the GOP brand to the left OWS sewer with this style of populism as he calls it.

Posted by: Valiant at January 10, 2012 03:12 PM (aFxlY)

---

FIFY

84 Holy crap do I hate having to vote for these useless limp dicks. Any and all of them. But I will, by God, I will, just to defeat the SCOAMF. The JEF. The .... barf!

85

The Doomsday Clock, a figurative timepiece used as a barometer of humankindÂ’s fate, was moved one minute closer to midnight on Tuesday, the first time it has been nudged forward since 2007. It is now 11:55, five minutes before the appointed hour.

If The SOCAMF gets reelected, then SPROING!!!!

It's Midnight, Bitches! And yeah, I'm not atomic, but I am wound up pretty tight. And I don't give a shit what time you say it is.

86 Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 03:20 PM (kaOJx) well we love you Dick!

87 @12 Well, at least whoever survives this bloodbath will be ready to do battle with the filthy socialist parasites. Combat training!

Better to have him vetted than not.  I think he can easily answer it - Bain's strategy involved a lot of investing in troubled, beaten-down firms.   These type of firms are much more likely to go under than other firms.  So the relevant point is "how would they have done without the Bain investment?"  It's likely that Bain's investment might have actually improved their financial health.  I think it's possible to spin it that way, and then use a "there you go again" approach once he's answered it and they keep bringing it up. 

I hope the SCOAMF brings this up in the general election - that would give Romney a chance to tee off on it like this.  Because you KNOW it'll be coming.

88 Yup, Rush is right. After the media and Obama's $1 billion war chest get through with Romney in the general, Bain Capital will be the new Haliburton. Fuck America. Sometime I don't even think we're worth saving anymore. We're a a nation of retards. The average person shouldn't be allowed to vote. Bring back the poll tax.

89 If he hadn't already concluded that he was out of it, he wouldn't have adopted this approach, because after this, he has no political future.  It's a banzai charge.
Posted by: pep at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (YXmuI)

What political future did he have to begin with? The party insiders hate him to start with. Worrying about the future is what's been the problem with the Republicans. You play to win now.

90 Look, I just want to drag this process out for as long as possible. This idea that we have to wrap this up today only serves the libs, as it'll give them that much more time to bash our guy, before he's even nominated. No, let it drag on, and keep the libtards guessing until the last possible moment. Then they won't have the time to define our guy on their terms.

91

I would rather have an unlikeable platic dick than a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant. At least I want a cigarette after the plastic dick.

Posted by: giftogab at January 10, 2012 03:19 PM (SPVfc)

Yeah, but you have to be likable to be elected.

92 well, we can all vote on the drudge primary open ballot.

93 73 54 It's cause Romney's an unlikable plastic dick.
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 10, 2012 03:16 PM (40rE+)

Who has the endorsement of CharlieBrown'sDildo? Posted by: wooga at January 10, 2012 03:20 PM (vjyZP)   I am going to guess Lucy?

94 Jesus, I'm finding myself agreeing with David Frum.  What a weird week.

I'm still thinking about my vote in the Florida primary.  I had been planning to still vote for Perry, regardless of the state of the race. But I'll be damned if this crap isn't making me think about voting for Romney.

95 13 Want a 66 R senate and a 304 R house and Obama president.

Posted by: Huggy at January 10, 2012 03:04 PM (FD6YW)

No. The recess appointment thing has just shown that Bambi will simply go full-on authoritarian in that case. We have to control the executive branch too.

96 That would be my response in the general.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2012 03:20 PM (Sh42X)

But too bad Romney's campaign is too stupid. Mother says she seen ads already in SC, not defending himself will cost him. He has to now. McCain or Sununuununuun cant cover for him.

97 This just in:  We're all fucked.

I don't want to be a chicken. 

98

Want a 66 R senate and a 304 R house and Obama president.

Why? Obama will ignore the Senate and the House, as he's doing now, and nobody will stop him. Many of those 66 R's would be Scott Brown types.

 

99 You know, if Huckabee hated Romney, that would be a point or two in favor of Romney.

100 But conservatives LOVE me.

OR they will love me...

Really!

101 DEMOCRATS paying the bill for some guy who was 'fired' by Romney to schlub around New Hampshire.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (qjUnn)

Newt should be helping with that, it's only fair.

102 Bring back the poll tax.

They've got that already in TX. oh you mean the voting poll not the dancing one I bet.

103 Put MOAR powder & musket balls in for the circular firing squad.

104 .... but the union eventually decided to go on strike, so Ampad shuttered the once-profitable factory. Mittens can kill this (I hope)

105 ABO  (except for that pure waste oxygen and protein, Luap Nor)

106 A crappy system, but the best out there!

107
Both Perry and Romney have proven very capable at handling large amounts of money and not fucking misplacing it.  Whereas O'numbnuts has never shown that he even understands the concept of money. (I just talk and say shit and walk around and people give me stuff).
So you have - Adults - and a petulant teenager.
Me, I could live with either Romney or Perry for that reason alone.

108 95 Look, I just want to drag this process out for as long as possible. This idea that we have to wrap this up today only serves the libs, as it'll give them that much more time to bash our guy, before he's even nominated. No, let it drag on, and keep the libtards guessing until the last possible moment. Then they won't have the time to define our guy on their terms.

Posted by: Iblis at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (9221z)

THIS. And then some. We all sit around wrenting at our cloths about an agenda set by the MFM and trotted along with even by Fox. Doesn't anyone have enough self respect, intelligance or confidence to play their chips at their own state process? do they all have to follow like lemmings what NH or IOWA does? IF this is truly decided today, it is notbody but the R's fault for buying into the headlines and soundbites of the media...all of them. Wake up your memory: At this stage last time they said Hil was DONE. She should have NEVER given up. But even SHE didn't give up this early.

109 Candidates, which leftist talking point would you like to use right now?

110 Newt could probably win this thing if he wasn't a bigger dick than Romney. Face it. For a year conservatives have been looking for the anti Romney. Captain 27% just doesn't get us riled up. Newt started to gain traction when talking about ideas and what a SCOAMF the SCOAMF is. The more he spoke though, the more he reminded people what a prick he could really be. Romney is a prick, just not as big of a prick as Newt.

111
In 2008, Huckabee stayed in the race only to deny Romney the presidency. Huckabee had been mathematically eliminated; Romney had not.






Romney quit, oops -- suspended his campaign, on February 7th.  In what possible way was Huck continuing to run be considered c-blocking Mitt?

112

well, we can all vote on the drudge primary open ballot.

Too late. The Paulbots found it and spammed it.

113 If mitt gets through this and gets the nomination, it helps to inoculate him from these attacks from the D's.  It will be old news - baked in the cake stuff - by the time the presidential election rolls around.  When it does eventually get brought up, then the voters will already know the slam (so less effective), and then Mitt counters with a list of a few companies Bain has had a role in: AMC theaters, Burger King, Brookstone, Burlington Coat Factory, Domino's, Dunkin Donuts, Guitar Center, Sealy, Staples, and the Weather Channel.  Allowing time, he could also counter with that vs. Solyndra et al.  And/Or he could counter with saying the jobs from those he saved/created were real vs. phony Obamanumbers and didn't involve the accumulation of massive debt.

It's good that this takes place now, so that it's negative effect lessens and it can be fully countered.  And if he can't successfully weather this storm, then someone else will rightfully emerge.

114 I really don't care if someone is a prick. That could be a good trait. BE a prick to Iran. BE a prick to the paki's. BE a prick to Mexico....WE NEED A PRICK!

115 haha, you know, I like it that Romney goes nuclear on his opponents. Sort of the opposite of how Mackerel ran his presidential race in 2008. embrace the evil!

116
It's good that this takes place now, so that it's negative effect lessens and it can be fully countered.
--------
When the hell will he defend though?

117

Rush's arguement that Newt and others are pushing at Romney from the Left on this issue is valid and true, but i have no love for companies like Bain Capital, they have a right to exist in a free market, but they are not what i hold up as the ideal in a free market system, it is parasitical in nature and i find that distasteful, like ambulance-chasing lawyers and snake-oil salesmen.

 

 

118 Newt reminded me of a fictional character and I finally figured out who.

Tommy Lee Jones character from the first Under Siege; he knew the game was over, but if the crazy rambling fucker couldn't win, he just had to go and launch a few nuclear-tipped tomahawks at Pearl Harbor so nobody could win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOWO6Zf9szM

119 Whereas O'numbnuts has never shown that he even understands the concept of money. (I just talk and say shit and walk around and people give me stuff).

I'll have you know I graduated at the top of my economics class at Underpants Nome U.

120 Look, I just want to drag this process out for as long as possible. This idea that we have to wrap this up today only serves the libs, as it'll give them that much more time to bash our guy, before he's even nominated. No, let it drag on, and keep the libtards guessing until the last possible moment. Then they won't have the time to define our guy on their terms.

Posted by: Iblis at January 10, 2012 03:25 PM (9221z)

 

Don't kid yourself.  The dems have big fat dossiers on every candidate.  The stank will begin within an hour of anyone being nominated.  And we just think this dustup within our party is bad.  Just wait.

121

Regarding the Nixon II thing, I'm not sure what Rush might have meant, but Nixon ran the classic campaign in '68, where he basically didn't say jack all the way up to the election. 

I think the strategy was that since everyone already knew everything there was to know about Nixon, and since Nixon's negatives were pretty high, all they wanted to do was have him stand there and show that he wasn't Lyndon Baines Johnson.  It worked, more or less, but it probably wouldn't have if RFK had lived long enough to win the D nomination.  The fact that LBJ dropped out, and Hubert "sourpuss" Humphrey ran instead gave Nixon the win in a close race.  I've said in the past it's because Humphrey was the one person in the country who, standing next to Dick Nixon, made Nixon look warm and kind. 

122

So Perry and Newt are just a flight simulator for the real trip?

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 10, 2012 03:10 PM (FIQiO)

If they can't manage to be a decent candidate, they can at least be useful this way.

123 This is all v. depressing.

Here....to lighten things a bit...

Health Inspector at #OWS DC camp -- "It's no different from a refugee camp".

Please let these people show up at the GOP convention. Please please please.

124 Nobody thought Newt had a prayer until the early debates when he gave off an air of being above the rest of the bickering candidates. His barbs were focused on the media and Obama. At almost every opportunity, he would pointedly refuse to criticize another candidate and instead turn the spotlight on the failures of the current administration. He is now obliterating every shred of goodwill and respect he earned in those debates. Pretty soon he'll be full-circle, back to the knifing-Paul Ryan-in-the-back polling levels.

125

Romney needs to go all Christie on this.

“Firing people?  You bet your ass IÂ’m going to fire people.  IÂ’ve spent the better part of my life taking failing organizations down to the bone and rebuilding them so that they work and succeed.  And thatÂ’s what IÂ’m going to do to this bloated, dysfunctional government.”

“If Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Barack Obama think we’re going to bring back employment and opportunity to the middle class of America by demonizing capitalism while paying government workers twice what the private sector pays, then I’m here to say there is a better way.”

All you need is the right speechwriter.

(and yes, jwest is very, very expensive)

126 I don't think the mythical 11th commandment is required when the opponent is disgraced, ethically reprimanded, two time cheating, couch sitting , right wing social engineering calling, Fannie Mae history keeping, fat man. That's just my take.

127 What do you think the impact will be on Joe in the F-150 in Durham and Heather in the Jetta up in Manchester listening to their favorite radio hosts at least mildly boosting Romney during their daily talk fix? I know there's no way to calculate it, but it probably doesn't hurt the Romney cause.

128 OK Republican primary voters - Would you rather have Obama attack. 1.) Bain Capital? 2.) Fannie & Freddie money? 3.) The record in Texas?

129 From Weekly Standard:
President Obama's first chief of staff Rahm Emanuel once sat on the board of troubled federal mortgage giant Freddie Fraudie Mac. Bill Daley, the president's chief of staff whose departure was announced today, was previously a top executive at financial firm J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. So of course there should be little surprise that Obama's latest chief of staff, announced today by the president himself, also has deep ties to the financial industry himself. << NO KIDDING ?!?! >>
This is a perfect tie in for their own F#&king !% crap that they they're trumpeting. Hello Romney staffers ??

130 Sometime I don't even think we're worth saving anymore. We're a a nation of retards. The average person shouldn't be allowed to vote. Bring back the poll tax.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 10, 2012 03:24 PM (QcFbt)

 

Universal suffrage = universal suffering.

 

131 120 haha, you know, I like it that Romney goes nuclear on his opponents. Sort of the opposite of how Mackerel ran his presidential race in 2008. embrace the evil!

Posted by: joeindc44 - fully stoked tebow crazed rioter at January 10, 2012 03:35 PM (QxSug)

What we are worried about is that he will go nuclear on conservatives, or at best ignore them once he has what he wants from them. Even when I supported him back in 2008 against McCain his lack of principles left a really bad taste in my mouth, and that is something I cannot forget.

 

132 #130 true until he went after Romney regard to mandates and stepped in it. He started to unravel after that. His lie that he only got 300k working as a historian for Fannie Mae was the proverbial straw.

133 This is such a stupid fucking attack. These idiots are attacking Romney from the left and all it's going to do is burnish his credentials as a conservative. Because it forces you to defend from the right. It's a no-brainer: "I didn't slash jobs. I SAVED jobs. I took a company that was ready to go under, putting EVERYONE out of work, injected enough liquidity to stave off disaster, and led them back to profitibility. Thanks to my leadership, they were able to grow and start hiring again. Thanks, Perry and Newt. You've just made me a Romney guy because compared to you, he's holding the fucking William F. Buckley Chair at More Conservative Than U, you ignorant, grasping, fumbling slapdicks. I hate myself for what you're making me do, but I hate you more. Eat shit. EAT MY SHIT.

134 #132
Yes, but, leaving aside these, um, youthful indiscretions and, um, uh, lapses, you could get behind him, right?

135 132 I don't think the mythical 11th commandment is required when the opponent is disgraced, ethically reprimanded, two time cheating, couch sitting , right wing social engineering calling, Fannie Mae history keeping, fat man. That's just my take.   Compared to our contestants, he aint fat!

136 119I really don't care if someone is a prick. That could be a good trait. BE a prick to Iran. BE a prick to the paki's. BE a prick to Mexico....WE NEED A PRICK!

Posted by: giftogab at January 10, 2012 03:34 PM (SPVfc)

Great campaign slogan.

137 I don't think the mythical 11th commandment is required when the opponent is disgraced, ethically reprimanded, two time cheating, couch sitting , right wing social engineering calling, Fannie Mae history keeping, fat man. That's just my take.

That's genius fat man to you.

138
Re: Romney & Bain

"I think it's a big distraction. And they're picking up on this...and those who are condemning him for it, I think, are arguing like Democrats. You know, restructuring in the free market is a good idea. [...] But the principle of restructuring is a good thing in the market place because if a company is in trouble and they're about to close its doors, restructuring is the only thing that saves the company. Yes, in the short-run there are some cuts that have to be done, and yet in the long-run it's a savings. For conservatives to come through and say restructuring is bad, ah, I think there's a big difference if you're restructuring in the free market and you're doing a positive thing versus somebody who might've taken money from Freddie Mac, and the government is involved...General Motors...and the banks get involved, or you get contracts from the government. That  is an entirely different story."

--Ron Paul
today on Laura Ingraham
(transcription by me)

139 I don't think the mythical 11th commandment
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What do you think about Romneys comment on Perry's SS comments? Then shut it. You better tell Mitt to hurry the hell up and defend himself if he wants to mitigate the damage.

140 Posted by: A defensive battle is a LOOSING battle. Time 4 aggression

Yeah, 'cause that's Mitt's problem. Too nicey nice a campaign.

141
That's an interesting quote for 2 reasons.

1. Ron Paul does a better job defending Romney than Romney.

2. Ron Paul takes a swing at Newt at the end, which is funny.

142 #136
I wish. Haven't been flashed in years. I do recall it was one hell of a (morale) booster.

143

Romney was the only candidate capable of defeating McCain. And I supported Romney then, by the way, because I wanted to defeat McCain -- this constant crap about "you RINOs who forced McCain on us" notwithstanding. That was the socon populist Huckabee's call.

Ace pointing this out is definitely true.  You can go back to 4 years ago and see Ace trying to offer the Romney Campaign advice on enticing more conservative voters to give him a look in order to beat McCain. 

Additionally of note in that post is ace pointing out that MassCare was socialistic.  That was actually my reason for looking back at posts from 4 years ago; because I think the claim Mitt supporters have been saying that conservatives like his healthcare plan in 2008 was bullshit.  I think this verifies that the bull had indeed shat.  And just as an added bonus have a laugh at Jeff B. who in the comments proves himself to be one of the "RINOs forcing McCain on us."  Comment 50 is especially hilarious.

And I feel that I must add that I do not comment at Hot Air under any name.  Anyone there using a form of "buzz" in their name is in no way associated with me and any similarities are purely coincidental.

 

144 I kind of wonder if whatever animated Huckabee against Romney is the same as Gingrich's animus. I'm not sure I've heard either articulate why they apparently loathe him so-- for Huckabee, many of us have assumed it's Romney's Mormonism, but that's just a vicious guess. Anyway, what's Newt's beef? Sore-loser-ness? Is Mitt personally unlikeable or a d-bag? (I know why I oppose Romney so vehemently-- he's a freaking Socialist! But it would be nice for someone running to say so, too.)

145 I don't think the mythical 11th commandment
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Except he is a pussy.

146 Too late. The Paulbots found it and spammed it. ALL the bots are there except for one guy's. Fuck, Perry's in last place behind Huntsman!

147 I bet if we can make this a more cheerful place, some of the 'Rettes will flash us the goods.

They don't even do that when they're drunk and giggly on the ONT.

148

"These idiots are attacking Romney from the left and all it's going to do is burnish his credentials as a conservative. Because it forces you to defend from the right."

 

Monty Burns would say: "Excelllent!, it's all falling into place."

 

149 This kinda feels like those team Jacob vs team Edward Twighlight commercials....if you were on either team you were gay or a 12 year old female.

150 The way that Romney defends his position on these attacks will tell us whether or not he can beat Obama. If you think this is vengeance politics, and I think it is, wait until the Chicago team has a candidate to aim at.

151

141 -

Me, as a broken record: Perry's doing what Mitt is paying him to do at this point.  Yes, make the attack from the left.  Not because Perry believes the leftist point, but because Mitt needs the push. 

Simple. Clear.  Not at all nutty/conspiratorial.

152

No. The recess appointment thing has just shown that Bambi will simply go full-on authoritarian in that case. We have to control the executive branch too.

Two words: Articles of Impeachment.

153 Would you rather have Obama attack.
...
3.) The record in Texas? Posted by: izoneguy

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but it's not going to be his record they attack.

154
1. Ron Paul does a better job defending Romney than Romney.
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It's embarrassing. Flip Flopney will defeat Obama? pfft, they cant even defend themselves.

155

Oh good now an Obama spokesman is on Fox gloating about the bi partisian support they are getting from Newt and Mitt against  Romney and Bain.

Jesus H. Christ.

156

I have been mentioning since 2010 that this next election was going to be uglier than anything this nation has ever seen.  Gird your loins, folks.  None of this is going to be pretty.

Communists/marxists do not give up without a long protracted fight.  It could be very bloody in the symbolic sense (which I hope is all it is) or, when desparation sets in, the literal sense.

157 141, sure you don't mean Paul instead of Perry there.

158 All this political talk? Today mean no thing as in NO THING. The game picks yp next week in South Carolina. Go out and get drunk people and take a load off

159  @93 "Sometime I don't even think we're worth saving anymore... The average person shouldn't be allowed to vote. Bring back the poll tax."

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We've been going downhill since the New Deal and its marble-cake federalism, and I think we'll soon realize and admit that we're politically a lot like many European countries in that we have the socialist left vs. the not-quite-so-extreme-socialist left for our parties.  We're just using the (D) and (R) for old times' sake.

I'm also pretty sure we true dual-federalism types are the <5% crazy vote, just like the green anarchists on the other end.

160 Rush understands you can't sell advertising and lead some portion of the country without compromise. The two, although of course not mutually exclusive, simply aren't the same thing. Rush sells advertising, William F. Buckley Jr. led (created some would say) the modern American conservative movement. https://cumulus.hillsdale.edu/Buckley/

161 I meant Newt and Perry not Newt and Mitt.

162 OT - this is the kind of increased, in-your-face behavior we're going to see over the course of this year.

Obama picks immigration reform advocate to lead domestic policy
President Obama has picked a strong advocate of immigration reform to head the Domestic Policy Council. 

The White House announced Tuesday that Cecilia Muñoz, a former senior vice president of the National Council of La Raza, would replace Melody Barnes at the top of the council. White House press secretary Jay Carney announced the appointment during his press briefing. 

163 Posted by: Hate to say but RP is going to drink your milkshake

No one touches my milkshake.

164 1. Ron Paul does a better job defending Romney than Romney. He did a great job. Ron Paul, Voice of Reason? That's hard to type out, by my spell-checker allowed it.

165 Gird your loins, folks. 

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2012 03:48 PM (/VmDe)

Are we allowed to do that now? I sure hope so!

166
Can't wait to see how all those Romney is a predatory capitalist ads in SC work out for Noot.

"Thanks to a $5 million donation from a wealthy casino owner, a group supporting Newt Gingrich plans to place advertisements in South Carolina this week attacking Mitt Romney as a predatory capitalist who destroyed jobs and communities, a full-scale Republican assault on Mr. RomneyÂ’s business background."
Posted by: WalrusRex

167 I heard Rush's comments and I absolutely agree. The point is that this is a primary and you should attack your opponents' weaknesses. But you don't do that by attacking the free market or conservatism. If Newt had hit Romney with Romneycare, flip flopping and TARP, that would've been great. Instead, he used a line of attack that the libs are sure to regurgitate. Rush even said that at the end of his ads, he should say "I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message." Circular fucking firing squads. Gevalt.

168

I've been following these elections since Goldwater ran against Johnson.  I can't remember the R candidates savaging themselves to this extent.

We have to suspend belief and that these people will make a difference.  All I'm seeing is a pack of 2nd-raters clawing each other to maybe, just maybe, get to the top of the heap of pork.  Do you really think any of them would be substantially better than the SCF...marginally perhaps.

They're making Luap Nor look good, and you really need to suspend belief for that.

169 I hate to be the one to break it to you, but it's not going to be his record they attack.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2012 03:47 PM (jcnm

 

Whoever is our nominee is going to be Palinized.  Nothing will be out-of-bounds with these dem goons.

170 In Perry's semi-defense, I don't think he really understood what he was saying.  Sigh...

171 Off topic, but honest question for the morons:  Why is every leftie that can bang on a key board wetting their pants for Huntsman?  We obviously don't want the douchebag, being one RINO too heavy already.  If they genuinely like him that much, can he end up as the replacement VP for Biden?  Can he cross over and take the 3-5% that like him with him? 

I am sure there is something I am missing.  Please help me out here. 

172 http://thehayride.com/2011/08/the-donkey-whisperer/ Guys this is comedy gold right here.

173 You all knew Mittens was inevitable, now the time has come to accept it.

174 Because it forces you to defend from the right

Well maybe, or you could try and be even more left than your attack to defend yourself. We'll see on this one a little about what Mitt's instincts are.

175 167, downhill since Wilson. Roll it back, starting with withholding. Bring Adam Smith's Pimp Hand to bear on government; people need to understand what price they are paying, before they can vote on the value.

176
Note that the $5M comes from a casino owner.

For ads about Mitt being a predatory capitalist.

Wait. This has to be a joke.

177

Simple. Clear.  Not at all nutty/conspiratorial.

Posted by: Burt TC at January 10, 2012 03:46 PM (TOk1P)

Problem with that is, Mittens has to defend himself.

178 Two words: Articles of Impeachment. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2012 03:46 PM (d0Tfm) ----------------------------------------------------- As if......

179 Someguy 2012 : Punch Up!

180 Yeah, 'cause that's Mitt's problem. Too nicey nice a campaign.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 10, 2012 03:43 PM (0q2P7)

 

Well, if he has the brains to turn that aggression on the SCOAMF in the run up to the general, then as far as I'm concerned all is forgiven.  We don't need another limp-wristed milk sop in the race.  I've been sickened by the weakness our prez candidates have exhibited ever since Bush the Elder.  Kinder, gentler conservatism my ass.  Only the shocking inadequacy of their Dem opponents allowed any of them to win.

Time for ruthlessness.  If Romney can deliver that, then victory is ours.  BO is vulnerable on many many fronts.  All one has to do is kick in the front door of that puke's corrupt administration and it'll all crumble.  When was the last time our side had a candidate with heavy enough boot to get that job done???  Even though he's too liberal for me, Christy is the only other guy I know who's got any balls, and a willingness to tell it like it is.  Even if he's a damn gun grabber and underestimates the Muz threat, I'll still support the guy. 

It's like being Abe Lincoln defending Grant's penchant for the bottle.  I can't spare this man, he fights!  But if Romney wusses out in the campaign after the primary, then he's dead to me.  I'll still vote for his rotting corpse, but only because the alternative is so much worse.

181 Could Romney's camp be polling the sh*t out of this to guage public reaction before they respond?  He's never apologized for Masscare because he knows if he did it wouldn't put the issue behind him.  The same people would be calling him a flip flopper for being for Masscare before he was against it.  I imagine Romney's team is going to come up with something pretty soon, but not something that gets him wrapped around the axel during the general election - if he gets that far.

182 These are my favorite days in the interminable campaign cycle. Stuff happens, we get a tiny bit closer to an answer, new stuff to talk about.

183 Down ticket 2012!!!!!!

184 #170
Actually not OT at all - you have succinctly pointed out why it is absolutely essential to defeat the evil clown in 2012. Anyone will do, for me. When all of this nomination business is sorted out and yes, of course it's important and so on and so forth we must put on our big boy and girl panties and vote him out of office.
La Raza, indeed.

185 141, sure you don't mean Paul instead of Perry there No. Perry with his "vultures" OWS-bait bullshit analogy can fuck off right before he takes the gas pipe. Paul doesn't even deserve scorn because he's a fucking lunatic.

186

So has ROMNEY actually come out and defended his position, or is he just sitting back, waiting to see what the most popular response is supposed to be (so that he can embrace that)?

'Cuz all I've ever seen the man do is wait to see which way the wind is blowing before he takes a stand.

I just about had an aneurysm when I saw how whiny he got at one of the recent debates when he thought someone was being mean to him, poor baby!  He just couldn't believe that the moderator wasn't willing to step in and tell them to stop beating up on him....

187

176 -

Really?  Because Goldwater was ripped apart by the Rinos... er, Rockafeller types (Goldwater would have been the Rino, from their point of view).  They desperately tried to derail him, and after he lost in '64 they declared the conservative wing of the party dead and buried, once and for all. 

188 Well I love the idea that the GOP candidates are attacking each other!

189

The White House announced Tuesday that Cecilia Muñoz, a former senior vice president of the National Council of La Raza, would replace Melody Barnes at the top of the council. White House press secretary Jay Carney announced the appointment during his press briefing.

Talk about inviting crowds with pitchforks and torches...

This organization should have been shut down and its principles jailed long ago for sedition. They are openly anti-American and advocate the overthrow of the US government and the capture of American land for Mexico.

When is someone going to get the balls to file charges against these people for sedition?

190 I hate to acknowledge it, but I have a feeling that this thing is over before NH is even finished voting.

Sure is nice knowing that the rest of us are relegated to blog comments while a small handful of IA cow tippers and NH maple syrup guzzlers decide who the nominee will be.

191 184
Note that the $5M comes from a casino owner.

For ads about Mitt being a predatory capitalist.

Wait. This has to be a joke.

Posted by: from soothie's heart, i stab at thee at January 10, 2012 03:52 PM (sqkOB)

 

That is sorta funny. The casinos here pray on the accounts of thepatrons and give them markers even after they run outta moolah. AND they ahave the ability to see what they have in the accounts....so yeah.....

192 I'm just here for teh lulz

193 Does Team Meteor have T-shirts?

Or how about scarves?

194 The difference is that all the "attacks" on Gingrich are true.

To hear supposed conservatives using the rhetoric of OWS and DWS and Obama is disheartening, but helpful.  I've been choosing by process of elimination, and this socialist talk has cut Perry, the last man standing, from my list of Not Romneys, so I will support Romney.

Now, I was never "anti" Romney like some supposed conservatives.  And I've been amused by, for instance, them calling him the establishment candidate when Gingrich, Santorum, and Paul have been in Washington for decades, the first two not even going home when they left Congress, preferring to be influence peddlers.

195 ace likes Rush today.

196

In Perry's semi-defense, I don't think he really understood what he was saying.  Sigh...

Posted by: sandy burger at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (ErTq7)

IÂ’ve got to agree.  Perry isnÂ’t a bad guy, but right now he seems to be the retarded kid that the smart kids get to do stupid things for them.

ItÂ’s kind of sad.

197 Obama picks immigration reform advocate to lead domestic policy
President Obama has picked a strong advocate of immigration reform to head the Domestic Policy Council.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 10, 2012 03:50 PM (9hSKh)

 

Seems crazy, until you remember that the disgusting bastard put a pedophile in as the "safe schools" czar.  The Obama admin is going it's best to make sure that every hen house is assigned a fox.

198 So has ROMNEY actually come out and defended his position, or is he just sitting back, waiting to see what the most popular response is supposed to be (so that he can embrace that)?
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He could be doing that. He'll probably come out and say something really vanilla and nothing to blunt the attacks.

199 And Huntsman is saying corporations aren't people because, you know, corporations are magical entities that are made from a break in the space time continuum and operate with the hard work of ethereal fairies or something. I think what we're seeing with these candidates is the dregs of what the Republican party used to be, in the next few election cycles we should start seeing the Rubio's of the party step up.

200 It's true ya'll. Ah've traded lots of dimes for nickles in my day.

201

 jwest at January 10, 2012 03:57 PM

He could be worse. He could be a quitter, or have no political spine. Either way.

 

202
holy shit it is not a joke!

"Thanks to a $5 million donation from a wealthy casino owner, a group supporting Newt Gingrich plans to place advertisements in South Carolina this week attacking Mitt Romney as a predatory capitalist who destroyed jobs and communities, a full-scale Republican assault on Mr. RomneyÂ’s business background."
Posted by: WalrusRex

hahahahahaha!

203 @170

That is a spectacularly bad decision.

204

As if......

I know, but a Boy can fap, can't he?

This goes back to my previous comment: when will somebody actually start doing something about this shit? Can't any of this be proven in a court?

I'd think charges agains La Raza would be a slam dunk from the stuff of theirs I've read. How hard can this be?

205

186 -

Not if they're using the Nixon '68 playbook.  Honest, if you don't know the history, Nixon essentially remained silent, stood "above" the bickering going on all around him, both within the party and without. 

It's looked for some time to me like that's why Mitt doesn't say much of anything. 

206 I'd think charges agains La Raza would be a slam dunk from the stuff of theirs I've read. How hard can this be? Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (d0Tfm) ------------------------------------------------------- In theory?

207
noodles!

208 Newt Gingrich's private equity past

"During Saturday night's GOP primary debate in New Hampshire, Gingrich said: 'I'm not nearly as enamored of a Wall Street model where you can flip companies, you can go in and have leveraged buyouts, you can basically take out all the money, leaving behind the workers.'"

On the other hand...

"...Upon leaving Congress in 1999, the former Speaker joined private equity firm Forstmann Little & Co. as a member of its advisory board."

209 179 Off topic, but honest question for the morons:  Why is every leftie that can bang on a key board wetting their pants for Huntsman?  We obviously don't want the douchebag, being one RINO too heavy already.  If they genuinely like him that much, can he end up as the replacement VP for Biden?  Can he cross over and take the 3-5% that like him with him? 

I am sure there is something I am missing.  Please help me out here. 

Posted by: gulfkraken at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (WBfjO)

Huntsman can go, but the daughters - they stay.  IYKWIM

210

I'd think charges agains La Raza would be a slam dunk from the stuff of theirs I've read. How hard can this be?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (d0Tfm)

 

Except that the Left need not obey those laws.  That's been proven repeatedly.

211

205 -

You really are a jerk, do you know that? 

Silly question, of course you do.

212

He could be worse. He could be a quitter, or have no political spine. Either way.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 03:59 PM (kaOJx)

At least my gal still has a shot.  Perry is dead to the party now.

213 Burt ask jwest about how Palin crushed his soul when she chickened out of running for POTUS.

214 A guy who sat on a corporate board with capitalists
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Are we talking about Warren Buffet? Bill Gates? Romneycare? Fact: None are conservative.

215  ace likes Rush today.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at January 10, 2012 03:56 PM (21lBC)

 

I had the same reaction.  What's next?  A ten-thousand word treatise saying Glenn Beck was right?

216

jwest, how does a private citizen have a chance to be POTUS? You have to be a candidate and run for the office. You know, have the spine to throw your hat in the ring.

Sarah is only in politics now for one reason, the money.

 

217
I said

Noodles.

218 ace, circa 1.9.12 - there is nothing untruthful about the untruthful attack Dems and Perry use against Romney! Shut up, pleb, and tow the DncRapidResponse line! ace, circa 1.10.12: Damn, those untruthful attack against Romney are ATTACKS AGAINST CAPITALISMS!!!eleventy This is why I love this blog so much. New stuff every day.

219 On the bright side, Iran still hasn't perfected the Bomb.

220 179 Off topic, but honest question for the morons: Why is every leftie that can bang on a key board wetting their pants for Huntsman? We obviously don't want the douchebag, being one RINO too heavy already. If they genuinely like him that much, can he end up as the replacement VP for Biden? Can he cross over and take the 3-5% that like him with him?

I am sure there is something I am missing. Please help me out here.

Posted by: gulfkraken at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (WBfjO)

They are disgruntled with Obama's incompetence and want a competent leftist to vote for.

221 Frank Luntz looks like he lives at a Dunkin Donuts.

222 So Obama is running primarily on class warfare and the Republicans decided to embrace it instead of rejecting cronyism while making the case for capitalism.

223

jwest, how does a private citizen have a chance to be POTUS? You have to be a candidate and run for the office. You know, have the spine to throw your hat in the ring.

Sarah is only in politics now for one reason, the money.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 04:07 PM (kaOJx)

The national press still hangs on every word she says.  She could publish her grocery list and it would be a NY Times best seller.  Palin is in a position to either jump in or wait for a brokered convention.

The coyote-shooting political genius will be heading back to Texas to permanently reassess his campaign, riding his pygmy pony into the sunset while people struggle to remember his name six months from now.

224

"brokered convention"

You Palinista's wet dream is a brokered convention where St Sarah the Spineless is chosen as the candidate WITHOUT GETTING ANY PRIMARY VOTES.

Sure, the GOP will hand the nomination to a quitter.

Perry at least will finish his elected term, excuse me terms, as Texas Governor.

Palin will write another book, pitch another novel, and cash in.

 

225

If they genuinely like him that much, can he end up as the replacement VP for Biden? 

I've been predicting that for months.

It would explain so much, including why he's walking around insulting conservatives.

226

To summarize: romney's a sleezebag

He's a win-lose guy, not a win-win guy.

And now he's whining and has his minions crying about how the other guys are attacking capitalism.  Bullshit.  They're attacking a sleezebag. 

227

Perry has accomplished 3 things St Sarah hasn't. 1. ran for POTUS  2. Won re election as a governor (Romney didn't do that either)  3. finish a elected term as a governor.

jwest, do you have all of St Sarah's "reality" show on DVD or DVR?

228

I said

Noodles.

 

Ummm, The Brow?

229 Palin is in a position to either jump in or wait for a brokered convention.

No one maintaining any grip on reality would support a nomination for Palin at this point.Whether it be a late run or a convention bid.

230

I've been following these elections since Goldwater ran against Johnson.  I can't remember the R candidates savaging themselves to this extent.

We have to suspend belief and that these people will make a difference.  All I'm seeing is a pack of 2nd-raters clawing each other to maybe, just maybe, get to the top of the heap of pork.  Do you really think any of them would be substantially better than the SCF...marginally perhaps.

They're making Luap Nor look good, and you really need to suspend belief for that.

Posted by: Trainer as Minuteman until Juggy is gone at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM

It doesn't seem to occur to people that the reason the fights are so savage this year is that the GOP nomination is worth having, because Obama is a SCOAMF and will be fired in November.  I really don't think any of them thought they had a snowball's chance in Hell of being elected in 2008; they all knew Bush was the SCOAMF then and the GOP was toast. 

231 how does a private citizen have a chance to be POTUS?

Resignations, dude.

232 Funny but accurate
http://is.gd/EHwt7P

233 Candidate To Be Named Later '12!

234 Frank Luntz looks like he lives at a Dunkin Donuts.

I'm reaching out to Cavuto to express that, despite him being one of my favorite talking heads, I will skip his show entirely if he has that fat fucker on one more time.

Do you suppose FNC will have anything to say about that vid of him trashing Bachmann and Perry?

It makes you wonder what type of banter takes place with his panels prior to them casting votes.

235 And oh, by the way, this is NOTHING compared to the Ford-Reagan brawl in 1976.  Jesus, there was some bitterness there.  I went to that convention and saw people walk right up to Nelson Rockefeller on the convention floor and give him the finger.  I heard  a Republican Congressman call the sitting Republican President a SOB, in public.  I saw cartoons depicting Betty Ford as a drunk hooker.  There is no hate alive as hot as the hate the Reagan people had for Ford and especially for Rockefeller. 

236 In other news, the ronbots have taken over Drudge's poll. Seriously, him winning South Carolina? Drudge's polls, and most polls, mean squat.

237

IÂ’m not saying that I believe Palin will jump in or get the nod at a brokered convention.

All IÂ’m saying is that between Palin and Perry, she has the better chance of becoming president in 2012.  ThatÂ’s how bad PerryÂ’s chances are.

God, IÂ’m so glad I didnÂ’t waste the last few months promoting this idiot.

238 231 179 Off topic, but honest question for the morons: Why is every leftie that can bang on a key board wetting their pants for Huntsman? We obviously don't want the douchebag, being one RINO too heavy already. If they genuinely like him that much, can he end up as the replacement VP for Biden? Can he cross over and take the 3-5% that like him with him? I am sure there is something I am missing. Please help me out here. Posted by: gulfkraken at January 10, 2012 03:51 PM (WBfjO) They are disgruntled with Obama's incompetence and want a competent leftist to vote for. Posted by: Grey Fox at January 10, 2012 04:13 PM (sEvRn) I have a Leftist friend who loves Huntsman. He asked me why the conservatives don't like him and I said because he is actually a liberal and not a Conservative in any way at all (IMHO). He didn't dispute that but added that Huntsman seemed the very best candidate---more qualified than Barry.

239  So Obama is running primarily on class warfare and the Republicans decided to embrace it instead of rejecting cronyism while making the case for capitalism.

Posted by: Miss80s at January 10, 2012 04:15 PM (d6QMz)

Look at the bright side - they are making this whole attack line look pretty stupid.  How much stupider is it going to sound coming from the SCOAMF who has half of Goldman Sachs in his cabinet, had Jon Corzine as his chief bundler, and just made a Citigroup executive who got a $900,000 bonus in 2008 - while Citi took $30 billion in TARP money and a half a trillion in Fed loans - his Chief of Staff? 

240 >>It makes you wonder what type of banter takes place with his panels prior to them casting votes.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 04:31 PM (piMMO)

_{They're not panels, they're Budweiser Drinking Tours.}

241 seemed: past participle; as in "Perry seemed to have a good chance."

242 I have a Leftist friend who loves Huntsman. He asked me why the conservatives don't like him and I said because he is actually a liberal and not a Conservative in any way at all (IMHO). He didn't dispute that but added that Huntsman seemed the very best candidate---more qualified than Barry.

Posted by: rightist friend at January 10, 2012 04:35 PM (z+hCt)

No doubt this genius voted for Obama in 2008 though.  So much for wanting the most qualified candidate!

It's liberal snobs and elitists who like Huntsman, because he talks like a condescending college professor at a wine and cheese party and is a former bureaucrat.  He is just their type, the smarty-pants who they think should be making all the decisions for the rest of us dumbfucks.

243

no jwest, you've spent the last few months holding out for SARAH PALIN to run for POTUS.

lol

244 Romney seems to have a real gift for really pissing off his opponents in elections. Probably its his method of trying to smoothly blame them of what he does, reverse himself on topics they point to him being a problem, then get all hurt and upset when people point that out, acting like a victim.

He didn't dispute that but added that Huntsman seemed the very best candidate---more qualified than Barry.

If Huntsman had run in 2008 I probably would have voted for him.

245 So when is mitt going to defend himself? When this comes up in the general is he going to have his mittbots attack newt again?

246 Huntsman = Tuches Lekker

247 Does this mean I can never say mean things about how Soros made his money? How about corzine? Maybe we can get corzine to run as Gop candidate; hes as liberal as mittens and knows how to make a profit,right?

248

The good news is that since I live in California, I won't have to vote for Romney if he's the nominee.

249 Bob/Bob 2012

250 Karl Rove is on The Five! But, damn, he's not in the leg chair

251 Did Rush hit Romney like this when he pulled his act on Perry in regards to Social Security?

252 In 2008, Huckabee stayed in the race only to deny Romney the presidency. Huckabee had been mathematically eliminated; Romney had not. Not so. Going into Tsunami Tuesday, no one had been mathematically eliminated. Huckabee was leading or in striking distance of McCain in most southern states. Rush and Hannity looked at the national polls and told listeners you have to vote for Romney to block McCain. As a result, Huckabee fell just short in states he could have won (like Oklahoma), McCain won the delegates, and Romney finished third, a spoiler in those states. Had the talkers said, "vote for the non-McCain nearest the top of the latest poll in your state," Tsunami Tuesday would have been a bad night for McCain.

253 I've already voiced my disgust for Newt's/ Perry's anti-Bain line of attack. But that doesn't mean I think Obama is most likely to win the debate over Bain; or that Bain will sink Romney in the general. Who knows. But there are plenty of good rhetorical tacks Romney can take against Obama; R's Bain experience can still be an asset. Even if the Bain thing adds to the OWS volume (in numbers & loudness), that in itself may backfire on the left. After all, OWS can be as much or more of a turnoff to the squishy middle as the picture they'll try to paint (with shrill Marxist slogans) of Bain-Romney.

As for the primaries-- for me, at least, all this Bain talk makes me like Romney more. All the supposed negatives-- the ruthlessness of the work, cutting what needed to be cut, killing what needed to be killed, for the sake of efficiency, in an attempt to salvage the whole-- gives me some hope that Romney might have some of what it takes to do some of the difficult stuff that needs to be done. As a businessman, at least, Romney wasn't a squish.

I have no idea how this is playing in NH, but my impression of the right-wing blogosphere & MSM is that the attack's mostly backfired, and rallied some unlikely conservative defenders of Romney. Some here wonder why he isn't doing more to defend himself; I agree with Burt that that may not be necessary. No need, at this point, for the lady to protest too much. He already efficiently defended himself during the debate; he's made a pithy cogent statement on the matter. If he's being well defended from many conservative corners, with fire being returned on the attackers, why should he enter the fray himself? As long as this isn't seriously imperiling him in the primaries, and there are other eloquent high-profile voices defending him, there's no need for him to unfurl whatever defensive/ offensive strategy he's going to use against Obama now; that can wait until he gets to the general campaign.

IIRC, in 2008 Obama did very little defending of his weak spots & liabilities, in both the primary and general-- mostly others did the defending (and attacking) for him. Obviously, Romney can't do that kind of outsourcing in the general-- he won't have the MSM in his pocket, running interference-- but it may not hurt him to keep above the fray for now. To insist on defending himself (more than he already has) is to turn the spotlight back on  him-- and on what conservatives may not like about him. Better to keep the spotlight on his opponents, who're making fools of themselves at the moment, annoying & alienating many of their supporters.

254

The good news is that since I live in California, I won't have to vote for Romney if he's the nominee.

 

Is that true for National elections too? I thought only for state, gubernatorial ones...

255 Seems like Newt has become the asshole everybody pretty much had assumed he really is

256 I suppose the real question is will Romney (if he wins the primary) attack Obama's past as vigorously as he did his fellow repubs or will he the dead fish that McCain was.

257 Gingrich is a stupid boring statist bastard who should go choke on one of his 238 rolls of fat

258 You really make it seem so uderstandable with your presentation but I find this topic before really hard to understand. It seems too complicated and very broad for me.

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260
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