The Republican Party really needs to start recruiting people who can put aside candidacies for the greater good, if need be.  It seems like this is something that comes up repeatedly, and it's a deficiency that sorely needs addressing.

What does that do to enthusiasm? I'll tell you what it's done to mine: It's killed it.

So getting rid of Obama is just not worth the effort.

I see where you are coming from and where I am going

Rush said something about how it's not really about abortion, and I can see his point, but to a certain extent, it is.  Akin today is saying he only made one  mistake with one word.

Really?

You don't get what's wrong with your stance on abortion?  It's not that you're pro-life, or even that you don't accept the rape exception, it's that you think magic vagina fairies keep pregnancies from happening in "legitimate" rapes.  That goes WAY beyond one word. 

Idiot.  Complete and utter idiot.  If I was in Missouri, I  wouldn't vote for him.  Period. 

All is not lost.  It's a long time between now and the election.  Most people don't even start paying attention until after Labor Day.  A lot can happen between now and the election.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 21, 2012 02:22 PM (izA2D)

Happens every other week.

The problem is that Akin is being advised by this team:

http://tinyurl.com/cygajt7

Posted by: Fareed Zakariah at August 21, 2012 02:25 PM (xAtAj)

Thanks.. After reading your words, I do feel a little better. 

Posted by: Lizabth at August 21, 2012 02:25 PM (JZBti)

This x 1,000,000,000

I propose a threadjack.   Let's talk about Biden in Tampa for the Republican Convention.   What're the odds he stumbles into the Convention venue, forgets he's at the REPUBLICAN convention, and starts sharing embarrassing stories about Valerie Jarrett with amused Republican operatives?

Others  have argued the point, but was the MO senate seat the 50th  or 51st?  Frankly, I thought we were aiming a little higher than that?  We are only going to repeal Obamacare if Mitt wins pretty big, and if he does, we will win more than 51 Senate seats.  Even then, we will still only do it by reconciliation, so technically we only need 50 seats.  I get that each lost seat will require more political capital on Mitt's part -  which has always worried me.  But it doesn't mean it isn't possible. 

Is this something ? Sorta connected

The official platform language poised for approval at next week's Republican National Convention doesn't fully represent the party's presumptive presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said Tuesday.

Link in sig

Posted by: The MSN at August 21, 2012 02:27 PM (fRlaj)

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2012 02:27 PM (Q/1Jp)

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Well, not apologizing for the ad hom - at all.  But it was a serious question - does anyone know of ANY conservative pundit of any note that has come out in support of Akin staying in?   Anyone? 

Really Ace, W!T!F!   

So a politican say something stupid, so we should give up!?    Don't see what the big deal is.   Remember how the press covered the TEA Party?   Find one wacko and try to brand everyone using that?   How is this any different?   

Yes Adkin went full Biden and said some REALLY stupid things.  Why is everyone going into a panic over it?   That's what the OFM wants.  

It's like dealing with an alcoholic.  They will blow anything up to keep you off balance.   You have to keep focused and on track.

My $.02

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 02:28 PM (xROTy)

What does this have to do with your Prostate Specific Antigen ? 

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 02:30 PM (Dnbau)

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Agreed - but remember I was asking about any pundit of "note" - Schmuckabee doesn't fit in that description.

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2012 02:28 PM (r2PLg)

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Lazarus. Not that even he could make a difference.

Luke 16:
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

IF YOU DON"T LIKE A TOPIC AT AOSHQ, PRESS THE MAGIC [PAGE DN] BUTTON TO MAKE THE SCARY POST GO AWAY.JUST PRESS THE FUCKING [PAGE DN] BUTTON INSTEAD OF CONTINUALLY BITCHING IN THE THREADS.This concludes my helpful PSA for the morons who aren't interested in any Akin posts.
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 02:28 PM (xROTy)

Maetenloch, generally I agree with you,   but in this I have to point out that we'd have to "Page down"    through several days worth of posts to find one that's not dominated in some way by Akin chatter.   We get it.  We really do.  But the    apocalyptic prognosticating that this story has generated is     just a tad overblown.  

I guess the only play now is for the GOP to release poll after poll (skewed as all get out, if need be) showing Akin losing big.

Actually, the best thing to do might be for a bunch of godless hedonistic libertarians to blaim Jesus and wage cultural jihad on the embarassing retrograde socons.

Might just twist their knickers tight enough to get a stampede of church ladies on election day to backlash his ass back into this.

This whole thing is giving me an eye twitch.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2012 02:23 PM (ZJNI6)

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Ditto.  I'm tired of this "MO-is-the-balance-of-everything" horseshit.  People are tired of the dems, and, yes the people who will actually vote are aware of the difference between dem and repub.  It's too bad this happened, but most of us knew that bad shit was going to happen at some time in this election.

Let's move on and win this thing.  It is still very very doable. 

Posted by: huerfano is still laughing at August 21, 2012 02:36 PM (bAGA/)

Direct that to Rush yourself.

Let me try to add a ray of hope (if you'll pardon the term):

The other thread says Republicans are hanging onto MA, and are ahead in MT, WI, and NE, "putting us at 49 seats". Suppose those hold, and OH and NM go to the Dems, who lead there, or random other things happen that end up with the same count.

Then there are 2 "toss-ups", FL, and VA. Well, "toss-up" means a 50/50 chance, by definition.  The odds of picking up at least one of those seats is 3/4. So that means there's a good chance of at least 50, with Ryan to break ties.

ND is called "oddly contested". I'm not sure where that puts the odds, but the folks in ND would be incredibly insane to send a guy from the "we hate drilling for oil in the US" party, when that is the source of their economy boom these days. It has also been pointed out that ME is not hopeless. So that's a chance to do better than 50.

MATH!!  Sometimes it tells you happy things!  No need to despair - the Senate is winnable without Mr. Magic Vajayjay.

[The other thread does have it counted out right, doesn't it?]

I'm having flashbacks to 2010 with O'Donnell dragging every other candidate down.

Um... yeah.

Me, I'm having flashbacks to 1386 when a Japanese girl's secondary school invaded Liverpool in giant mechas.

GOP got their asses kicked in 2010 man.

All COD's fault, too.

You remember when the left found out that GWB forged his way into the national guard?  Remember how giddy they were because they were running a true live war hero during wartime?  Remember how excited they were we ran a B-list actor? 

Its a setback.  Its not the end of the world.  If the Obamacare vote comes down to one vote, then we can scream some more.  But we aren't there yet. 

Maybe someone from teh MSM will ask Ryan about it, thinking I got the bastard, and maybe he will hit it out  of the park.  Let's let this play out.  What's done is done.

Could Akin still win? If he won, could we trust him? He seems to have a "pride" problem ...

Time for Plan C:  Force a runoff.

Get enough people to vote, so that McCaskill gets UNDER 50%.

There is a small chance that if enough people vote for 1 candidate who is neither McCaskill nor Akin, the runoff will be between McCaskill and the other candidate.

Not a good plan, but giving up is worse.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 02:38 PM (xROTy)

Yes, and I've been hanging out there since at least Saturday.   But dammit, the HQ is my heroin.   I was just hoping it would be the good quality stuff by now, not the kind that's laced with rat poison and Ajax.    I expect more of our HQ dealers.

It is estimated this proposal will result in little or no costs or savings for state and local governmental entities.

"The sun'll come out....tomorrow!"

I  laughed so hard I startled the guy that I share a cubicle with.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 21, 2012 02:36 PM (i330i)

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I'm almost ready to you and people like you to fuck off.  2010 was a fucking GOP landslide.  The dems are still reeling from the damage done to them after that election.  Go pedal your shit over at Tepid Air.

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 02:40 PM (Dnbau)

...Why?

I'm having flashbacks to 2010 with O'Donnell dragging every other candidate down.
 

I fail to recall how CO'D's asshattery resulted in EVERY OTHER (R) CANDIDATE being asked about their stance on witchcraft.

What part of "needing to pick up 4 and likely to pick up 5 and as many as 9, even without MO" is so hard for people to understand?

Well... to be honest, the part where the "math" says 2+2 = 4, likely 5, maybe as many as 9.

OK, I tried actually reading the post before commenting.

Can someone explain what Ace is talking about with the math stuff and how without Akin's seat we can't win the senate?

Mike Castle!

Sandrock or Epyon?

177 Great photo-http://bit.ly/Sk3kUg

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 21, 2012 02:41 PM (YjDyJ)

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Woah!

That really is a Great photo!

Thanks for that, Miss80sBaby.

"Can someone explain what Ace is talking about with the math stuff and how without Akin's seat we can't win the senate?"

Cut ace  some slack.  Eventually he'll read CAC's post immediately below his own, and maybe a little sunshine might begin to fall upon his tiny, ant-filled soul  once more.

The one potential dark horse I haven't seen us talk about is Dan Bongino.  The guy is absolutely inspiring to hear, and it sounds like the Dems have gotten super lazy in that state.  I'm sending him money regardless of what good it would do in the end, probably because I'm a sucker for folks who will stand up and fight for what other people see as a lost cause (not the "grenade in the lap" self inflicted kind like we're seeing with Akin, mind you). 

If there was ever anyone in a dump like Maryland who could pull of an unseen and unheard upset, it would be a guy like Bongino. 

As most here agree, Akin's a dumbass and needs to go.  If he stays, we lose, and that is totally unacceptable.  I give the man no support.

   That said, if you claim to be on the Right, and yet you'd not hold your nose and go to the booth to cast your vote for this lesser-evil, you have shit for brains.  You deserve to be transported to your own little universe where Obama rules forever. 

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 21, 2012 02:43 PM (xROTy)

Oooh, shark attacks?   yes, let's talk about shark attacks!  

And what's the dilly-oh with the potential hurricane    that might hit Tampa during the convention?    Personally I think it's a bit rich to be forecasting a potential hurricane hit this far in advance, but it would be     an interesting turn of events.   Provided it's not a devastating hurricane like Andrew or Katrina, it might actually be good for the Con, since it would wash away the hippy protesters.

"Well... to be honest, the part where the "math" says 2+2 = 4, likely 5, maybe as many as 9."

Math Witchcraft!

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2012 02:44 PM (6o4Fb)

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EXECUTIVE ORDER....... you  bitter clinger.....

Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 02:40 PM (GMdhU)

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The Loesches (Dana and the house husband) have their reasons - trying to kick up ratings for the Dana show - the only source of income in the household.  Huckabee - well, he's just a d-bag, so he doesn't actually count.

So if Obamcare remains on the books for all eternity, who gets the most blame?  My choices in no particular order are:

John Roberts

Akin (of course)

Obama (too obvious)

Mike Ditka for not running for Senate in 2004.

Kawaii desu, ne?

Hai, hontou ni kawaii desu!

Best thing to ever happen to Liverpool.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 21, 2012 02:44 PM (VtjlW)

CROSSBOWS OR DEATH!

*wrestles AtC to the ground and starts to brawl*

(No offense, AtC.  Just trying to take your advice.)

Posted by: lael at August 21, 2012 02:45 PM (GMdhU)

   I'm not so sure.  Once the bad parts of Deathcare start to be seen, there may be greater support for repeal. 

   If not, well, save up your fuckin' cash and start scouting doctors in the Caribbean tourist hospitals.  They have high end spa-like hospitals down there now, with competent docs, for WAY less than is charged here.  You could practically self-insure. 

   America is not the only place in the world.  If our fellow citizens want to keep fucking themselves in the ass with no lube, well, it's time for our kind to start figuring out how to work around the system.  Adapt and overcome.  Milk this land of leftards and start preparing to bug out.  Though for those of you with kids - you have my pity.  Suckers.

Democrats want to Kill Babies.

Democrats want to Kill Babies...and make You pay for it.

[...just trying to figure out a way to fight back]

WOLVERINES!

I missed 123, yeah. that's a pretty dicky thing to say, troll or not. But given the source, not surprising.

"173  The bill that passed in MO passed because it was pretty common sense.
... That the right of Missouri citizens to express their religious beliefs shall not be infringed; That school children have the right to pray and acknowledge God voluntarily in their schools; and That all public schools shall display the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution."

If it were me I'd be tempted to vote against this bill, just because it's frivolous nonsense. The main part of it is already covered by the 1st and 14th Amendments. So all you really have is displaying the Bill of Rights. That's fine, but why is anybody debating any of this stuff, and why is the MO legislature spending time on it - to get the Bill of Rights displayed, when none of the kids will probably ever look at it? It's nonsense. Somebody's trying to SAY something that isn't true.

ace sez, "

What does that do to enthusiasm? I'll tell you what it's done to mine: It's killed it."

pancakes, and keep your chin up!

A poster using that nic is an occasional troll here, and just told Ace to kill himself

Ah, I see.   I was going to say, I hate Jar Jar as much as the next Star Wars fan, but not enough to ban any mention of him or his stupid speech patterns.

But yes.   Death-dealing trolls should be banhammered like Thor       wielding Mjolnir against Debbie Washerwoman-Shits.

Democrats want to take Your Guns away....and kill babies.

Realistically,the chance to get rid of Obamacare died when John Roberts stabbed us in the back.Posted by:  steevy at August 21, 2012 02:25 PM (6o4Fb)

The truth is:

 Realistically, the chance to get rid of Obamacare died when the GOP stabbed America in the back by selecting Mittens as the GOP establishment

On the "less bright" side, here's an "inconvenient truth". We need the Senate to undo the economic chaos that Obama has wrought. America is unraveling with lawlessness and dysfunction at high levels, and with the forward march of socialism. Akin is an embarrassment, but there are bigger issues to worry about right now. The US needs MO voters to put their Big Boy pants on - and their gas masks - and vote for that a-hole, if he's enough of a jerk to still actually still run.

Let's remember that it's actually worse to believe in socialism than it is to believe in magic vaginas.

"Oil is getting closer and closer to $100/bbl.

gas is $3.73/gal up here

if only we could use this somehow to win elections..."

In cases of legitimate drilling, the well will never produce.

Posted by: Jay Carney at August 21, 2012 02:55 PM (/YJYi)

I can help

Posted by: Dave S. at August 21, 2012 02:47 PM (6Zy+s)

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MO is very much in play for electing Aiken.  They elected McCaskill didn't they?  It's basically the same set-up here.  MO has high gas prices too.  They've also got the same economic problems the rest of the nation has.  Don't count out the MO hutzpah.

*BANGS HEAD AGAINST DESK*   

Okay, I'm going to head down and try to find a good thread to post in, pre-Akin.   Any suggestions?   I'm thinking "The Spinal Tapization" thread.   I didn't get a chance to play in that one.

You like paying $5.00/gal at the pumps?

...Vote for a Democrat.

284 270 I blame Napoleon.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 21, 2012 02:58 PM (136wp)

I blame the Big Bang.   Fuck that    asshole.

"292 I think we need 60 to crush Obamacare, which is why Ace is upset."

But is it true?  Could Romney, alone, really just grant magic waivers? Maybe. "Rule of law" appears to have been excluded from ObamaCare. The law only applies to people and organization that the King doesn't favor.

And what about de-funding? Couldn't that be done - at least in the short term - with a simple majority in the Senate?

>>We don't. 50 will do.

...assuming we win the White House, right?

I'm curious, do a lot of people like Huckabee?  He had his populist run in 2008, but other than that, does he have anything?  I'm pretty socially conservative myself, but I have never liked him.  Does he keep anyone in the party?  Was he given a speaking slot at the convention? 

I'm asking lots of questions, but I just don't get the appeal of him.  Sometimes you tolerate certain people because they bring in a certain segment, but I'm not sure he does.  As a so con, I know the only party that will have me is the GOP.  At this point, I have no where else to go. 

Are there any pro-Huckabee people on this board, or someone who can explain to me his appeal?

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 02:58 PM (dZQh7)

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It lives by reconciliation, it can die by reconciliation.  Don't need 60 for that.  Plus, haven't you heard?  It's a tax now.  The house can shoot that down.

Listen.

If you fuckers don't find a way to boot McCaskill, I and all my Illinois friends are going to take a huge dump in the river.

The Mississipi river.

It's coming, you bastards. I would breath through your mouths if I were you.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 02:58 PM (LRFds)

  Agreed.  So long as we can get rid of all the damn Canadians in the process. 

  If there were any justice in the universe, there would be a new land where Conservatives could go to resettle, and leave our libtarded neighbors behind.  It saddens me that we will never have FTL travel to other worlds - we'd at least have a shot then.  Alas - libtards are like plague rats - they'd get on the ships somehow, and spread their contagion across the stars.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 21, 2012 03:01 PM (06lNq)

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Fuck off.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 21, 2012 02:54 PM (da5Wo)

watch where those hands go!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 21, 2012 03:02 PM (4df7R)

bwahahaha!

Rasmussen has:

Montana

Rehberg 47%
Tester 43%

Ohio

Brown and Mandel tied at 44%

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone rapscallion at August 21, 2012 03:05 PM (t/RU3)

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I'm sure they'll all try.  It's all they've got.  All any  these  repub  candidates have to do is  stand in front of a vacant business, or a gas pump and tell the people that it'll be four more years of poverty if a dem is elected.

You got plenty of your own problems across the river there in Illinois.

Yes, we do... Because of East St. Louis.

Hell, you're giving me flashbacks to 2010 when East St. Louis torpedoed every single candidate the GOP ran.

Have you people no decency?

Well, so long, Breitbart, it was nice knowing you; pity you lived and died for nothing.  Guess I'll just go out and burn my "So?" and "Apologize for WHAT?" t-shirts.

he likley put third trimester abortion being banned off the table next cycle

Already illegal. Past the 6th month you have viability.

"Liz warren is now trying to tie Scott brown to akin.

This is happening in every race everywhere."

This ^^^^^^^^^^  may be our saving grace, right here.

You can count  on the Dems to over-react when they're cornered and desperate in an election.  If they play this thing out to the point of absurdity, then it becomes somewhat of a punchline, and loses its effect.  Like   "rayciss!"

If the Dems try to paint every (R) candidate  as  Akin's Best Friend, it will not end well.  For them.

Yes, Akin gave them a shiny new toy.  Now is the time for us to sit back and see if they play with it so damn much they wind up breaking  it   over the next couple weeks.

Boy - it sure sucks that the election is today while this is fresh in everyone's mind.  Guess we're doomed.  (weeping softly)

   Oh, wait...

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 21, 2012 03:20 PM (YjDyJ)

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Your logic is solid.  But we're talking about MO here.  

Chicago and Springfield are your biggest problems.

They said East St. Louis talked them into it!

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 03:17 PM (TULs6)

   LOL.  You don't really believe that, do you?  There is no effective limit on abortion at this time.  Up until the day before delivery, you can find some scum to do the deed and say it was medically necessary.  There will be no prosecution.

  Lucky for me, even though I hate it with a passion, I have learned to come to grips with it.  Why?  Because of who is getting abortions.  Which is to say, our enemies.  If the libtards and the gutter scum want to murder their children, I am no longer eager to stop them.  Let them die off.  They already enjoy the advantage of proseletizing in the public schools.  Why make it easier for them to have majorities?

No way.  That wiccan broad told me her mind was more powerful than my sperm could ever hope to be.  She promised me she wouldn't get pregnant.  Are you people telling me she lied?  Is there no honor among loose women these days?  How's a guy supposed to go about getting a cheap piece of strange if the wimmens are gonna lie about something like that?  What the hell is this world coming to?

*sigh*

Posted by: Dougf at August 21, 2012 03:23 PM (aHnDq)

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You can fuck off too.

There will be no prosecution.

Well if that is the issue (and it sure as hell was at Christ Hospital where they were killing newborn infants), it doesn't matter what you change the law to say.

A lack of will to prosecute over political reasons is a lack of will.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 03:26 PM (TULs6)

  What I'm saying is that any guy with an MD by his name can say "Medically necessary!" and that's that.  Letter of law followed.

Rest assured that somewhere in the bowels of the capital, the following conversation is happening:

“Now Lauren and Justin, I admire your loyalty to Todd.  Hell, I love him like a brother and we all know this isnÂ’t fair, but two smart young people like you also know the reality of the situation.”

“IÂ’ve been hearing some great things about you two.  And, there are other people, powerful people, who have been hearing the same things.  These are people who can help young  up-and-comers in their careers if they believe they know how to handle themselves, or they can make it next to impossible to find a job if they think they donÂ’t have the countryÂ’s best interest at heart.  I have told them that IÂ’m sure we can count on both of you to do the right thing.”

“Right now Todd believes he can get past this incident, because itÂ’s only one thing.  We all know there are other things that, if brought to light now, would make it impossible for him to go on.  Now, none of us want anything to come out that would hurt Todd more than what has already happened, but he needs someone he trusts to let him know that it could happen if he doesnÂ’t drop out now.”

“Let me say right now that there are people lined up to show their appreciation for your help.  YouÂ’re not only helping the party and the country, but youÂ’re also helping Todd.”

"I can argue with her. I'm not going to let Akin define my pro-life views as hickish or idiotic. His statement made himself look that way, not me, not the GOP, not the conservative cause, and not the pro-life movement. "

Damn.  Straight.

Dems want the only two options to be:

a) what Akin thinks

b) what Dems  think

Your actual thought on the  matter  is too hard for them to argue against,  so they have to define you as the caricature.  By accepting that  definition of your beliefs, you  start with a disadvantage.

I'm completely pro-life.  I would love to see a world where  there was no abortion ever.  I realize that part  of the road there involves making the legality of abortion a state-level issue to decide, and then also letting the states who take conservative stances against abortion show how you deal with these  nightmare situations  (such as rape)  in a manner where abortions aren't necessary.  Such as sufficiently severe consequences for being a rapist that it serves as an effective deterrent.

I realize that these parts of the conversation are at best YEARS AWAY, and should probably be held once we get the very existence of the country on solid footing again.

So I guess you should ask your friend why she feels that arguing over  how  the flame-retardant will ruin the carpet while the f'ing house is burning down around us is the right priority right now...

Why would a shill for the democrat pary "do the right thing".

Akin knows what he's doing. Handing the election to McCatkill is all part of his $$$ plan.

Posted by: TJexcite at August 21, 2012 03:10 PM (PNDql)

Its not his opposition to allowing abortions in the instance of rape that is the problem.  It is his hamfisted idiocy of a statement that a woman's uterus will reject the sperm a of a rapist so a pregnancy won't even happen.  I don't care for statements that can easily be taken as "If you got pregnant then you weren't really raped."  Again, I am not Whoopi Goldberg.  I do not want to spend my time nuancing rape comments.

Why would a shill for the democrat pary "do the right thing".

The conversation mentioned above is being conducted with Akin's Chief of Staff and Legislative Director.  They are both young, had promising careers and are now looking into the abyss.

How can there be a 'health of the mother' exception past viability?

Just deliver it.

It's absolutely nonsensical that the health of the mother could depend on stabbing the infant on the table.

Partial birth abortion was also banned.

If it's still happening (and look, I don't doubt it is with Kermit Gosnell types) it is a lack of enforcement, not a lack of laws.

If Republicans lose over one stupid comment, then we didn't really have much chance to save the country anyway. The bar is higher for Republicans than Democrats, but it's not that high.

So the McCaskill seat was going to be the swing vote ???

It never was and you are simply being a childish twit ...

Or Whoopi Goldberg.

Posted by: Greg Q at August 21, 2012 04:31 PM (4Pleu)

"I won't just shoot a bullet into a copy of the bill, I will actually kill it."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 04:39 PM (X3lox)

Hello Whoopi.

Do you not understand that it is not his "I oppose  abortion in all circumstances" that is the problem.  Its his idiotic "women have magic vaginas" comment that is fucking crazy.  You want to play the nuance game with that statement.  You want to talk about what he meant to say.    Well you can talk about what he meant to say all damn day, whoopi.  Its not going to make what he said while shoving his feet down his throat.

Just step back for a second.  Is there is no such thing as legitimate rape?  Would legitimate rape be something a particularly vile POS might get in prison?  I'm sure from time to time you can think of a criminal you've read about or who you heard giving a speech who you might think deserved a large helping of salad, and that the said salad serving was legitimate, if not righteous.

If true it brings up the question of whether it is on a continuum with a lots of variant gray areas or it might be a step-wise progression as posited by Whoopi Goldberg--Rape; Rape-Rape; Rape-Rape-Rape, etc.

There is a temptation with emotional issues for people to try to oversimplify some times.  Then again some people do the other thing.