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January 22, 2012

San Francisco Cops Going Undercover For Today's Game
— JohnE.

They'll be dressed as New York Giants fans. Pretty clever.

Undercover police will be dressed in GiantsÂ’ garb and on the lookout for nasty fans. Giants ticketholders will be handed a card as they enter Candlestick Park with details on how to contact police if they feel threatened. And more security cameras and undercover police officers will be in place to identify abusive fans.
Season ticketholders have also been warned to follow the NFL Fan Code of Conduct: no foul or abusive language or obscene gestures and no verbal or physical abuse of opposing team fans.

Apparently, 49ers fans have become increasingly violent and abusive this season. From last Sunday's divisional playoff game against the Saints:

Those fans were so excited that they ruined the day for a shaken Don Moses and his two teenage daughters. Moses, a longtime Bay Area resident who is from New Orleans, said they were wearing the Saints colors and prepared for some good-natured ribbing.
Instead, he tells a horror story of fear and humiliation when his daughters asked him why he didnÂ’t do anything to stop the hulking 49ers fans who yelled vulgarities and threw footballs at them, screamed in their faces and called their mother a whore.

Classy. And more:

San Francisco police are beefing up security by 25% in the wake of an outbreak of violent incidents at aging Candlestick Park over the past year, said police department spokesman Carlos Manfredi. The crimes range from restroom assaults to parking-lot shootings between rival fans.

Restroom assaults and parking lot shootings? That violent beating of an opposing fan (I'm leaving out the team name to avoid confusion) in the Los Angeles Dodgers' parking lot was national news this year. I know 49ers-Raiders games are usually a pretty rough scene (which was the case again this year), but it has continued at Candlestick all season. Why hasn't this gotten more attention? Maybe I just missed it?

Posted by: JohnE. at 11:04 AM | Comments (83)
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1 Wait. This cannot be happening Only Christians and tea baggers get nasty and beat the crap out of people. waaa.

Posted by: MSM at January 22, 2012 11:08 AM (O7ksG)

2 Steve Tyler***spit***

Posted by: dananjcon at January 22, 2012 11:08 AM (OXi3E)

3 If that's true about SF fans, I've just become a Giants fan.

Posted by: whatever at January 22, 2012 11:09 AM (O7ksG)

4
once again, everyone,...

Steven Tyler!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 22, 2012 11:09 AM (sqkOB)

5 C'mon sooth. I just ate lunch.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 22, 2012 11:11 AM (OXi3E)

6
Candlestick Park?

I thought it was 3ComQualcommEnronPopRocks Park?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 22, 2012 11:11 AM (sqkOB)

7 I guess the 49ers fans are the Nut half of the California Fruits & Nuts Mix.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 22, 2012 11:13 AM (niZvt)

8 That is sooooooo gay

Posted by: dagny at January 22, 2012 11:14 AM (Ke2m6)

9 As Cali goes so does the country..Oy.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 22, 2012 11:14 AM (OXi3E)

10 Nancy Pelosi supporter and voters, all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 11:14 AM (d0Tfm)

supporter = supporters

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 11:15 AM (d0Tfm)

12 Raiders fans in all parts of CA are known to be thugs, as are most local Dodger fans. I didn't realize Niners fans were bad, though.

Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at January 22, 2012 11:16 AM (SsG4J)

13 This is what happens when you ban guns. People turn into British soccer hooligans.

Posted by: Texan Economist at January 22, 2012 11:16 AM (TC/9F)

14 This is really nothing new...I've been to sports venues all over the US and the ONLY time I've ever felt seriously threatened for simply wearing the opposing team's garb was at Candlestick back in the 1980s...once at a 49ers/Steelers game and the other at a Giants/Cardinals game (when they played at the 'stick)...there's something about quiche and white wine that just inflames the crowd...

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at January 22, 2012 11:17 AM (uYXYP)

15
Ravens' O looks flat and weak

Posted by: soothsayer at January 22, 2012 11:17 AM (sqkOB)

16
That's it, I'll be rooting for the Giants to give the niners fans some karma.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 22, 2012 11:17 AM (JYheX)

17 To be perfectly honest, if you have seen the behavior of fans at soccer matches, some of that crudeness has started showing up at NFL games of late. It is worrisome, and I commend the SFPD for their efforts.

Posted by: navybrat at January 22, 2012 11:18 AM (63tqR)

18 4
once again, everyone,...

Steven Tyler!

Posted by: soothsayer

So creepy. Fat and skinny at the same time.

Posted by: Dang at January 22, 2012 11:18 AM (BbX1b)

19
Fat, skinny, AND turning into a woman.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 22, 2012 11:19 AM (sqkOB)

20 12 Raiders fans in all parts of CA are known to be thugs, as are most local Dodger fans. I didn't realize Niners fans were bad, though.

Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at January 22, 2012 03:16 PM (SsG4J)

Well you know how violent they can be once they get a few appletini's in them.

Posted by: buzzion at January 22, 2012 11:19 AM (GULKT)

21 Love the adjective "aging" for Candlestick. Do they think people would behave better if it was new and shiny?

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 22, 2012 11:19 AM (MyByM)

22 What do you expect from The Peoples "Republic" of San Francisco (aka Sodom and Gomorrah by the Bay)? Typical lefty "civil" discourse.

Posted by: RRRoark at January 22, 2012 11:19 AM (W2cWt)

23 Restroom assaults?

Posted by: Cheshirecat at January 22, 2012 11:20 AM (O10Cp)

24
oh snap!

The Patriots are Establishing the Running Game^tm right outta the gate!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 22, 2012 11:20 AM (sqkOB)

Fat and skinny at the same time.

Adonis he ain't.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 11:20 AM (d0Tfm)

26 This is really nothing new...I've been to sports venues all over the US and the ONLY time I've ever felt seriously threatened for simply wearing the opposing team's garb was at Candlestick back in the 1980s.

The only time for me was at a Rangers-Flyers game in Philly. I like ripping on Boston fans, but I've never felt unsafe at Fenway in a Yankees hat. There's usually one or two jerks, but the rest of the fans usually keep them in line.

Posted by: John E. at January 22, 2012 11:22 AM (nRTou)

27
Edelman is back on the offense!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 22, 2012 11:22 AM (sqkOB)

28 23 Restroom assaults? Posted by: Cheshirecat at January 22, 2012 03:20 PM (O10Cp) They'fr from SF. Assault with a chubby weapon.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 22, 2012 11:22 AM (niZvt)

29 Castro district hardest hit

Posted by: Juan mor Beer at January 22, 2012 11:22 AM (kgU8m)

30 Restroom assaults?

Wanta know why they call it Candlestick Park?

I LOVE that place!

Posted by: Andi with a ♥ over the "i" at January 22, 2012 11:23 AM (gCa4h)

31 Fat, skinny, AND turning into a woman.

Posted by: soothsayer

My brain can only handle two converging contradictions at a time.

Posted by: Dang at January 22, 2012 11:23 AM (BbX1b)

Adonis he ain't.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 03:20 PM (d0Tfm)

Yet somewhere, there's a hot co-ed that would bang the shit out of him.

I'm so doing it wrong.

Posted by: ErikW at January 22, 2012 11:23 AM (WVU2f)

33 23 Restroom assaults? Posted by: Cheshirecat

I'm listening...

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at January 22, 2012 11:24 AM (BbX1b)

34 I like ripping on Boston fans, but I've never felt unsafe at Fenway in a Yankees hat.

I quit going to Angels games when they play Boston and New York. Their fans are nasty and obnoxious. I know a few former players who say that Phillies fans are the worst, though.

Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at January 22, 2012 11:27 AM (SsG4J)

I'm so doing it wrong.

Me too. Lead singers get all the chicks.

How do you get a bass player off your front porch?

Highlight for answer.

Pay for the pizza.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 11:27 AM (d0Tfm)

36 Bathroom assaults???! Ah...good times.

Posted by: jim mcgreevy at January 22, 2012 11:28 AM (OXi3E)

37 "Why hasn't this gotten more attention? Maybe I just missed it?"

The only person who reports on SF Bay area shenanigans is zombie and zombie is not a football fan.

Posted by: zmdavid at January 22, 2012 11:29 AM (dFApw)

Let me try that again.

How many lead singers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Now let's see if this is a better color...

One. They just stand in place, hold the bulb, and the world revolves around them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 11:31 AM (d0Tfm)

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 03:27 PM (d0Tfm)

LOL! That was funny!

Posted by: ErikW at January 22, 2012 11:31 AM (WVU2f)

40 Lead singers get all the chicks. How do you get a bass player off your front porch?

Backwards Boy, I feel compelled to stick up for the the Graveyard Shift bass players here!

Bass players are always very cool, and therefore have no trouble getting women, so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at January 22, 2012 11:32 AM (SsG4J)

41 Assault?

Well, at first....

Posted by: Random SF Fan at January 22, 2012 11:34 AM (gCa4h)

42 I think most of these shit heads are gangbangers. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: mike at January 22, 2012 11:35 AM (WnI5L)

Bass players are always very cool, and therefore have no trouble getting women, so far as I can tell.

Bless you, Tami AT. I play bass, drums, and percussion. And yes, even I have succumbed to a lovestruck bass-luvin' gal once or twice.

How do you make a million bucks playing the blues?

Start with two million.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 11:36 AM (d0Tfm)

44 The Saints fans were treated rudely in San Francisco?

Man, they ought to try going to a game in New Orleans sometime.

Posted by: TheGonz at January 22, 2012 11:39 AM (Uk6ZM)

45
Backwards Boy, I feel compelled to stick up for the the Graveyard Shift bass players here!

Bass players are always very cool, and therefore have no trouble getting women, so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at January 22, 2012 03:32 PM (SsG4J)

True story, I was at Port Columbus airport many moons ago waiting to pick up a friend from a late flight.

The place was empty and all of a sudden, here comes Duff McKagan having a bit of difficulty getting through the metal detector.

He finally made it through and I walked over and started talking to him. He was cool as hell but he was also high on something and didn't know where he was.

I still have the autograph.

Posted by: ErikW at January 22, 2012 11:39 AM (WVU2f)

46 My nephew who lived there and now commutes to SF likes to tell me how tough the queers are. I guess this is them showing their muscle?

Posted by: dagny at January 22, 2012 11:40 AM (Ke2m6)

47 The BIG local scandal is that the anthem is going to be sung by Kristin Chenowyth, who is a Giants fan, meaning that local talent got passed up for this honor.

But Kristin does have a HUGE following in the Castro district...

Posted by: navybrat at January 22, 2012 11:41 AM (63tqR)

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 22, 2012 03:36 PM (d0Tfm)

Excellent! I play alto sax, guitar and will be learning the fiddle soon.

Nice to know who the musical Morons are. You too, Tammy.

Posted by: ErikW at January 22, 2012 11:41 AM (WVU2f)

i won't stand for american football to become like euro soccer.

flood the place with cops disguised as Gaints fans, arrest everyone who acts a fool, and nip this crap in the bud!

bud nip it!

Posted by: Ron Paul is the worst politician ever... except for all the others. at January 22, 2012 11:42 AM (m6OUa)

Bass players are always very cool, and therefore have no trouble getting women, so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at January 22, 2012 03:32 PM (SsG4J)

That's because their day jobs give them access to chloroform

Posted by: buzzion at January 22, 2012 11:44 AM (GULKT)

51 This topic reminds me of some pron I once saw when I followed a link somewhere....hmmm.

Posted by: dagny at January 22, 2012 11:45 AM (Ke2m6)

52 'How do you make a million bucks playing the blues?'

Start with 2 million...

Posted by: navybrat at January 22, 2012 11:46 AM (63tqR)

Excellent! I play alto sax, guitar and will be learning the fiddle soon.

Can you play wagon wheel for me?

Posted by: dagny at January 22, 2012 11:48 AM (Ke2m6)

Slightly Off Topic

Headline: Bonnie Bernstein Kills Joe Paterno

Vote again for Obama, sideline candy, after you screamed from your holier-than-thou high horse that the abuse of a child is the worst possible sin (I agree, it is) in the world. Barry Obama championed a bill which called for live babies to be left to die of neglect in a closet. Pure Evil! Then you have the nerve to hector an old man to death (just kidding, but you helped make his last days miserable) by espousing your moral superiority. Shame.

Full disclosure. Have no ties, or interest frankly, in Penn State football or Joe Paterno. Just think it was shitty the way the media blamed him for Jerry Sandusky's crimes. He was told by an underling, soft sold really, about an incident witnessed by said underling. Paterno turned around and informed his AD and Uni President about what he had been told. Yet he was lambasted in the press for "not doing enough", whatever that means. Hpoe the haters are happy now that the old man is dead. And if any of them are Obama voters, as I suspect most of them are (including Bonnie), then they will burn in Hell for their hypocrisy.

Posted by: ole scratch at January 22, 2012 11:53 AM (+56Bh)

Can you play wagon wheel for me?

Posted by: dagny at January 22, 2012 03:48 PM (Ke2m6)

Hell's yes!

Cool song and cool video too.

Posted by: ErikW at January 22, 2012 11:55 AM (WVU2f)

56 56 I'm addicted to it. It's very weird. I actually get excited every time I hear the first few bars.

Posted by: dagny at January 22, 2012 11:57 AM (Ke2m6)

...who yelled vulgarities and threw footballs at them, screamed in their faces and called their mother a whore.

Just a warm up for the 2012 elections.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at January 22, 2012 12:02 PM (sCuuG)

I quit going to Angels games when they play Boston and New York. Their fans are nasty and obnoxious.

Exactly why California is going down the toilet: an infestation of liberals from the Northeast, screwing up the state by voting, by attending sports functions, by existing.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 22, 2012 12:02 PM (8JVxG)

Posted by: dagny at January 22, 2012 03:57 PM (Ke2m6)

It's a cool tune!

Posted by: ErikW at January 22, 2012 12:08 PM (WVU2f)

60 Exactly why California is going down the toilet: an infestation of liberals from the Northeast, screwing up the state by voting, by attending sports functions, by existing.

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Yeah, native Californians have absolutely nothing at all top do with their own problems.....

We here in the NE are pikers compared to the loony tunes populace in CA.

Try again.

Posted by: wiserbud at January 22, 2012 12:15 PM (gCa4h)

61 My family had 49er season tickets since the Kezar days. 49er fans used to be very mild but a few years ago there was a major shift in the behavior of the fans. We used to take pleasure in bad mouthing the dirtbag Raider fans - the few that exist in the Bay Area - but now 49er fans are just as bad. The last game I went to a few years ago - when we decided to give up the season tickets - there were nothing but drunks and foul mouthed idiots. I think it is a reflection of the culture at large to be honest. People are just more crude today than they were in the past. Very sad.

Posted by: PDizzle at January 22, 2012 12:16 PM (/mspB)

62 SF queers are tough! Got stuck in the Castro district with my husband for a couple hours last year killing time and was unnerved by the burly menacing queers. We were aggressively glared out of a Starbucks and even a bakery, ultimately finding refuge of a sort in a Pottery Barn where the help at least only flirted with my husband.

Posted by: jeannebodine at January 22, 2012 12:20 PM (byR8d)

63 Moron regular who actually goes to SF 49er and (baseball) Giants games here. The San Fran crowd used to be one of the most tolerant, easy going group around. It was the Raider games that you had to fear for your safety. But in about the last 10 years, a low life, gangsta type element has shown up and gotten larger and larger. Add to that, the left wing Newsome administration at SF city hall which doesn't believe in prosecuting 'minor' crimes or ever bringing charges against minorities. Of course, the national media never ever mentions the skyrocketing murder rate in San Fran, because liberals think San Fran is heaven on Earth.

Posted by: Log Cabin at January 22, 2012 12:20 PM (Rge2x)

64 Posted by: PDizzle at January 22, 2012 04:16 PM (/mspB)

There's my answer. Thanks, I wasn't aware it had gotten this bad. Thought it was just an Oakland thing.

Posted by: John E. at January 22, 2012 12:22 PM (nRTou)

65 I am shocked, shocked I tell you to hear that giving groups a pass on unacceptable behavior leads to them becoming violent.

Posted by: Palerider at January 22, 2012 12:22 PM (vL0Nv)

66 Gangs have taken over our cities. First it was the Raiders, then the Dodgers. Gang culture reigns supreme. That's why most folks I know watch games on TV at home.

As long as the club is making money they don't care.

Posted by: PJ at January 22, 2012 12:32 PM (DQHjw)

67 In the olden days, in the cheap seats HUGE Creepy Thugs would toke up and make obsenities throughout the Niner games. That, in addition to lots of beer. My Pop would get so mad his Sicilian blood would boil. We only had those seats for one season.

Posted by: concrete girl at January 22, 2012 12:33 PM (9StRq)

68 The only way I will go to a football game is if I have a seat in a luxury box. The possibility of that happening is less than zero, so I'll continue to watch the games from the comfort of my own home.

As a Cowboys fan, I hate the 49ers more than I hate the Giants, so I'll be rooting for the Giants to win today.

Posted by: Theresa is nucking futz at January 22, 2012 12:46 PM (xmOY4)

69 We get the same thing (but at a lesser level) when the Steelers fans come to Cincy.

They're ass-holes... pure and simple, and worse when they're drunk.

Though I will say that they behave themselves (most of the time) inside the stadium... off the field is another matter.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 22, 2012 12:49 PM (1GunI)

70 @navybrat: "It is worrisome, and I commend the SFPD for their efforts. " Using government to try to enforce morals only prevents the morals from becoming a built in part of that society. It is better to just allow people to carry guns and/or defend themselves and then let them be rationally moral.

Posted by: Texan Economist at January 22, 2012 01:02 PM (TC/9F)

71 "Using government to try to enforce morals only prevents the morals from becoming a built in part of that society"

I appreciate the Ayn Randian analysis. But, this is not a public sidewalk, or a wilderness, it is a private sporting venue with paying ticket holders. Morals don't even factor in, as, I agree some people are beyond the point of teaching morality.

It is about dissuading a few jerks to reconsider their rude actions. If some people are acting like animals and not civilized humans, then they deserve to be treated as such. I still like the idea of undercover cops in Giants dress.

Posted by: navybrat at January 22, 2012 01:31 PM (63tqR)

72 It is about dissuading convincing a few jerks to reconsider their rude actions.

Fixed it for myself...

Posted by: navybrat at January 22, 2012 01:35 PM (63tqR)

73 Whoohoo Frisco! You nasty stool pushers don't need to assault anyone - I'll be there for kickoff.

Posted by: Richard Simmons at January 22, 2012 01:41 PM (ScD5a)

74 Why hasn't the violence and disorder gotten more press attention?

"Aging" is the key word describing Candlestick.

A proposal for a replacement park 40 miles south down in Santa Clara County ("Silicon Valley") is near finalization. The county residents will be in hock for half a BILLION in bonds to build the thing.

So why would a citizen sign up for giving such a huge subsidy only to KNOW it will import crime and ruffians?

By keeping the increasing violence quiet, the NFL and the political establishment hopes to not queer the deal.

Posted by: Whitehall at January 22, 2012 01:42 PM (1+mGd)

75 By keeping the increasing violence quiet, the NFL and the political establishment hopes to not queer the deal.

Well played.

Posted by: John E. at January 22, 2012 01:44 PM (nRTou)

Robin Williams used to include 49ers fans acting like assholes in his standup act 30+ years ago. It's nothing new.

If they aren't doing it already they might implement what I saw at a recent Thunder game. They announced several times that ANYBODY that felt threatened or if their neighbors were acting obnoxious (cursing/throwing stuff) they could text in house security for immediate action.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at January 22, 2012 02:01 PM (uUtvO)

77 But, those evil Philly fans booed a drunken, skinny, hobo-like Santa Claus in 1968.

Santa Claus.

No excuses, we have plenty of dickhead fans here. It's....different...to have it pointed out that we aren't the only ones.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at January 22, 2012 05:00 PM (dIHHd)

78 But, those evil Philly fans booed a drunken, skinny, hobo-like Santa Claus in 1968.

And cheered a motionless Michael Irvin when announcers thought he was dead.

Posted by: John E. at January 22, 2012 05:02 PM (nRTou)

79 @ 55. My contempt for Joe Paterno and his defenders is based on WAY more facts than you sprinkle in your post.

Posted by: elliot at January 22, 2012 06:44 PM (vY/HY)

80 My, how times have changed. Years ago, a lady friend of mine made the mistake of allowing her daughter to wear a Dodgers jacket to a game in Candlestick Park. Some asshole tried to set it on fire while the eight-year-old was wearing it. She tried to have the asshole arrested, and San Francisco's finest told her, "you let her wear the jacket here, didn't you?"

Fuck San Francisco and fuck the Forty Niners. And fuck the Giants (NY and SF) , too.

Posted by: Dodgers Fan at January 22, 2012 07:41 PM (eKjV7)

81 This certainly isn't isolated to San Fran. I've made a few trips to Camp Randall to watch my beloved Gophers get their ass handed to them and the only thing more pathetic than how sucky Gopher football is are some of the goons that call themselves Badger fans.

Posted by: Drunk Minnesotan at January 22, 2012 08:13 PM (19Xnd)

82 Eh, the Michael Irving thing was bad, but I contend that they were booing Deoin Sanders, who was doing some kind of weird dance over Irvin. But Irvin recovered. I saw him at the Linc when he was working for ESPN, and some Eagles fans were yelling "Where's your crackpipe?" at him...he grinned and flashed his shiny Super Bowl ring at them.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at January 22, 2012 09:44 PM (dIHHd)

83 Why are you going to a game in the opposing teams stadium?

Posted by: oclarki at January 23, 2012 11:06 AM (z2O42)

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