1 Cocaine dealers hardest hit.

2 Man, I can't believe we are debating over these losers when there's a real conservative still in the race. 

3 Good! Let them starve!

4 First! And, in regards to Ace's post, the sooner the better. One of my business models as a musician almost completely bypasses major media (indie record label) and the more artists go that way, the better it will be for all of us. Market directly to fans, keep the highest net, end of story.

5 Well, NOT first, actually.

6 Until the media pressures Washington to regulate this.

7 The forces against SOPA are growing. I hope more people contact the Congress to express their displeasure in this horrible bill.

8 Nah, the media will pressure Washington to bail them out. Do you know how much it cost to fly the Chewbacca costume to DC and back?

9
I'm amazed people think Louis CK is funny.

10 Seething with rage.

11 Until the media pressures Washington to regulate this.

Posted by: Hotspur at January 09, 2012 03:13 PM (5cgIv)

And we all know how Washington likes to regulate the shit out of everything.

12
I see an Interstate Commerce Clause lawsuit brewing here. It only takes one or two enterprising lawyers.

13 Is there an emoticon to express how f*cking stupid Santorum is for backing this crap?

14 Good riddance to Big Media.

15 I recommend the novella "Misspent Youth" by by Peter F Hamilton regarding a world in which there is essentially no copy protection, no royalties and very little original content.

Live music and theater makes a big comeback, and there is still a market for the first airing of TV shows, but that's about it. 

16
Don't worry freelancers, we'll figure out a way to get in your knickers.  You will pay for your intransigence and unwillingness to compensate the government for its hard earned investments in infrastructure, education, and green energy. 

-Elizabeth Warren
Harvard Elitist Bitch

17 But don't buy the Kindle edition from Amazon - it used to be $3, but now it's somehow $13!

18 More Hotair bullshit, this time from someone else than Special Ed. Santorum does not support SOPA. http://www.therightscoop.com/rick-santorum-does-not-support-sopa/ Interesting how uber-RINOs at Hotair (except Allah who is now outnumbered by DIABLOS like Jazz Show, the Scozaffava loon) support McCain who sponsored PIPA, while bashing Santorum over something entirely vague. Stop linking that propaganda site, and bring some actual quotes from objective sources.

19 @14
We need a font that includes a symbol for the sweater vest.

20 http://is.gd/kwN5Xf

21 Here's a not-safe-for-work clip (n-bombs, f-bombs, c-bombs) of Louis CK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ btw, I stress, NSFW. Watch it later. If you watch it at work you will have an HR problem.

22 SOPA is a POS and the devil IS in the details. We already have enough copyright laws. Enforce what you have and STFU.

23 I'm amazed people think Louis CK is funny.

I watched a couple of episodes from his sitcom. It was fucking horrible.

Every episode seemed to portray the inspiration for a joke, but not the joke itself.

24

This is good news for consumers.

Radiohead and other bands have been doing this for some time.

Great. I hate record companies. The technology exists for people to record their own music at home or in self made studios. I'm tired of record companies being the artbiter of who makes it and who doesn't.

 

 

25 @I'm amazed people think Louis CK is funny.

I like Jim Gaffigan.

And cake. 

26 The IRS just had a meeting in which developing a tax strategy to encompass new media was a topic. I didn't attend as it would have interfered with my nap schedule.

27 Sock off

28 Related: Paul Ryan opposes SOPA.

29 slightly less not safe for work Louis CK clip (but still NSWF), about the shame he experiences when he goes to Cinnabon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zyK5t8QmyE

30 Where does Todd Palin stand on this SOPA business?

31 >>>I watched a couple of episodes from his sitcom. It was fucking horrible. I haven't seen his sitcom. but of course his primarily talent is in standup.

32 ace, keep up the hard work you do on Rick Santorum. Maybe if you try hard enough he won't be the nominee. I'm out. It's been fun the past couple of years, but I can't sit here wasting my time with no one doing anything about Obama's abuse of power and the tyrannical violation of the Constitution. Anyone that wants to communicate with me can find me at john_stevens820@yahoo.com It's been real, fellas.

33 I'd also add cable and satellite TV are on the way out; they'll only exist as internet providers.
ESPN already broadcasts many of their BB games that you can't get, so they're building the infrastructure.
Hulu is making a la carte more common.
And with Netflix accounting for some 30% of internet traffic in the evenings, the day will soon be here where you don't have to pay an assload for a bunch of channels you never watch (oh, like 80 f'ing music channels included is a real benefit to your stupid, overpriced package), and instead just pay for the ones you watch. 

34 I linked an article the other day fromUSA Today who interviewed a woman who was a self published author doing e-books.

I suspect that will be the wave of the future if they can get their act together.

35

Louis CK is funny. 

Do I think I'd like to hang out with him?  Probably not.

36 Joffen, l8r g8r.

37

>>>I'm amazed people think Louis CK is funny.

 

He has a handful of good bits, but that's it. He strikes me as having a similar so called Truth to Power type humor that Bill Hicks did.

I don't find either particularly funny, especially since Hicks repertoire has dropped off significantly with this death and all.

They're kinda like the Ron Paul of the comedy world. They think what their saying is edgy when it's stuff that has been said by white/black/asian/whatever power groups and other over the top leftist academics.

The only Louis CK set I found real funny was his bit on Conan about the newest generation being some of the most worthless and spoiled

 

38

Great. I hate record companies. The technology exists for people to record their own music at home or in self made studios. I'm tired of record companies being the artbiter of who makes it and who doesn't.

 Posted by: Ben at January 09, 2012 03:21 PM (wuv1c)

Yup. The software and hardware is out there for serious musicians. They can also easily self-market on the cheap.

Record companies can go away forever.

39 I got a cinnabon one time in my life.  At an airport.  It was impossible to eat it. 

They smell good, though.

40 I'm sorry, I am, but anyone who's got Sudden Passion for any of these numbnuts (all of a sudden Santorum's the One?!!?) is daft.

41 Joffen, if you haven't noticed, not too many members of congress here. The recess appointment issue is one of congressional prerogatives and power, not for grassroots conservatives. If the Senate Democrats don't want to fight it, then they will be screwed by the next Rep. President. Sen Byrd would have never tolerated it.

42 @Ace - thanks for the shout-out. From what I understand, SOPA was designed by the entertainment industry to stop piracy of movies and TV shows online (and then drawn up so poorly that all sorts of bad things could be done under its reach). But indie musicians (not just indies in fact) have pretty much made peace with the fact that their music can be put up on YouTube and listened to for free, so we might as well look at it as free radio airplay - people hearing it who might otherwise not even know about it. It's free advertising. There is an IP quandary in there, but I've found that real fans go buy the product anyway. There's a lesson for the industry in there somewhere.

43 Why fight the SOPA act, shouldn't everyone want to be clean?

44

Apart from the truly expensive forms of entertainment -- TV shows, movies, and now videogames --

The price on that is dropping fast as well.  Skyline was made for around $10 million and the effects were pretty much done at the home of the guys who directed it.  Now, that movie has many, many, many problems, such as making the alleged hero an utter dirtbag, but the effects are not one of them.  I just checked IMDB and it grossed $78 million worldwide.  I'll take that return on investment any day. 

 

 

 

45 I haven't seen his sitcom. but of course his primarily talent is in standup.

You aren't missing anything.

I think his sitcom just took the whole "comedian's comedian" thing much too far.

The show was little more than Lewis being in slightly uncomfortable (but not at all funny) situations. Situations from which a joke could be made, but wasn't; at least not in the show.

46 a passion for numbnuts?....no thanks.....

47

I got a cinnabon one time in my life.  At an airport.  It was impossible to eat it. 

Why, did it fight back?

48 I don't understand all the cry for most of these idiots. If you look at their actual record Perry if far above any of them.  But he didn't perform well forth MFM with gotcha stuff. Newt threw fireballs at them and got ahead despite a shitty record and sitting on the couch with Pelosi.

It tells me there is something really bad going on. Either these polls are shit or people are dumber than creosote posts.

49 Why take 10% of the publisher's take when you can make more and retain control on your own?

50 I kinda liked Skyline. Wasn't it basically about an alien race seeking BRAINS  across the universe?

51 I like Jim Gaffigan's bit on bathrobes (skip to 1:10).  Safe for work. 

52 Hollywood was already brimming with hobos the last time I was there. If this trends holds true, competition for the primo dumpsters is gonna be brutal.

53 Lol @ 33, drama queen much?

54 @Ben @ErikW - abso-fucking-lutely. We can now make records using nothing but instruments, mikes, computers, audio plugins and a couple of pieces of outboard gear that sound 98% as good as the $250,000 big label production for less than 10% of the cost.

55 Joffen, just take a break.  Don't leave for good.  I enjoy your posts.

56
Big fluffy robes make great shine rags for your sporty ride.

57 Wasn't Monsters  pretty much made without any studio support?

58 Yeah see this is where I have problems with Santorum, not some mythical "he's going to create a new fascist anti-fun regime" social conservative myth. He was the poster boy for all the bad Bush year Republicans, he never saw a big program he didn't vote for.

59 I'm out. It's been fun the past couple of years, but I can't sit here wasting my time with no one doing anything about Obama's abuse of power and the tyrannical violation of the Constitution.

Dude who pissed in your Wheaties? It's primary season, Kunbayaa group hug togeatherness season starts at the end of August. If you don't want messy politics, don't live in a Republic.

60 joffen is gone? good luck in your quest......

61

http://www.youtube (dot) com/watch?v=dks1cqQZnqg

 

Ynot here are outtakes from Gaffigan saturn commercials

62 A 25-year-old man described as an Islamic extremist was arrested in an alleged plot to attack crowded areas in the Tampa, Fla., area with a car bomb, assault rifle and other explosives, authorities said Monday. The U.S. Department of Justice said Sami Osmakac, a naturalized U.S. citizen who was born in the former Yugoslavia, was arrested Saturday night.

63 The ragequit thing is too much. Yes, just like 99% of the party, I didn't support Santorum for the first year of the campaign. It's just that my non-support is now one year plus three weeks whereas some people seem to believe that a Major Event has occurred and the previous position of not supporting Santorum is suddenly horrifying, even though, you know, the ddin't support him until 3 weeks ago either. Everyone's Non-Support of Santorum: 1 year long Ace's Non Support of Santorum: 1 year plus 3 weeks And thus is a Heretic is smoked out of his sulfurous pit.

64 You will pay for your intransigence and unwillingness to compensate the government for its hard earned investments in infrastructure, education, and green energy. 

Those electrons don't just occur naturally, you know, government had to be there to make them happen.  You seem to think they just occur, as if from some sort of primordial explosion. 

65

I think Louis CK is pretty funny.  His humor isn't for everyone, and his show is different.  One episode is completely different from another, and even one segment in a show is completely different from another segment.  Not all our great, but isn't that true of most shows.  I know I don't agree with his politics, but unlike liberals, I can still laugh at someone who doesn't agree with me.  I get the sense that Louis doesn't look down at people who don't share his views, unlike Lettermen who has become much too bitter for me.

Gaffigan is good too.

Probably the only 2 comics I would pay to see right now, and they are vastly different.  Anyway good for Louis.  I didn't even know about this.  I'll spend the $5 to see his show. 

66 BTW, I second and third the Joffen thing. He's a good dude and a powerful advocate and hopefully just needs a break.

67 Let me see: If I jumped on every bandwagon the Candidate Hoppers did, I would now have enthusiastically supported: Cain then Bachmann Then Perry Then Cain again Then Gingrich Then Santorum oh but now the Candidate-Hoppers are like "THIS time we MEAN it, now we're all set. Get on board and fall in line!" No thank you.

68 The Luis CK episode with great conservative comedian Nick DiPaulo (sp?) was worth my time.

69 I think this would be a good model for airlines too.  Just thinking:  Ralph & Tilley's OKC to Dallas Transport - Cigars, booze, and loveable stewardesses.  When the plane's full, we fly.

70

Joffen, it's primary season. Take a break and come back in a month or two. We're all going through the stages of Romney acceptance. Some of us are further along than other, and some are just realizing they have a problem(that Romney's going to be the candidate).

 

Primaries are always rough around here. Remember the COD/Castle election?  It's not worth leaving such an awesome place permanently.

 

Just take a break from the news for a while and come back when the primaries are at and end. Then we begin the real fight for November.

71 The big book publishers are on their way out.  They haven't realized the train has left the station.  Innovation and the "new" commerce will find a way. 

I certainly hope the textbook publishers go by way of the dinosaur.  The cost of textbooks is obscene.

72 Not too late at all for Jeb Bush to wade in and waste Mittens. Not at all. The WH and the MFM would do a nice doubletake.

73 Is Gaffigan a conservative, because I just noticed he did a shout out to Tebow (un-ironically) and he also had a comment about yesterday's debate (about candidates having to kiss a lot of ass to be elected POTUS).  And he had a cryptic comment about Michelle Obama appearing on some show.

74 What does a record company give you with Katy Perry singing slutty lyrics written simplistically and recorded with autotune that you can't get from a self-producer?

Tabloid boobie shots
 

75 ...because perry is too much like gwb let's get jeb bush to run? omg.........

76 I thought Joffen was a Perry suporter, no?

77 Brian Regan did this with his new CD.

78 i loved gaffegan's hot pockets routine.....i love driving my kids crazy with that one.......

79 Y-not. I don't know. If he was, he wouldn't dare show it openly. His humor does tend to be apolitical.

80

Ace, from what Joffen has said on other threads, it's not about Santorum, it's about spending time complaining about Republican candidates instead of making a really big deal about Obama declaring Congress in recess and ignoring the Constitution.

81 74 Not too late at all for Jeb Bush to wade in and waste Mittens.

Not at all.

The WH and the MFM would do a nice doubletake. Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 09, 2012 03:36 PM

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82 shit...now it's in my head driving me crazy.....damn it

83 I get my comedy fix for free on Pandora.

84 Uh...not a Santorum guy whatsoever. Unless you guys are talking about someone else. I'm 100% pro-Perry and always will be. I certainly hope my comment wasn't taken as "we all need to support Santorum" because that would be hilarious. I'm sorry. I am at my wits end here. I see America headed on the path to a dictatorship and there's nobody talking about it. I'm worried that I am wasting my time here because the people that are genuinely frightened of Obama's power grab are outnumbered 5:1 on this blog. I am tired but I want to fight this power-hungry dictator and I dont know what to do about it. If you guys thought I was not only supporting Santorun but calling for everyone to get on board LMFAO Oh, you guys kill me.

85 Everyone's Non-Support of Santorum: 1 year long

Ace's Non Support of Santorum: 1 year plus 3 weeks

And thus is a Heretic is smoked out of his sulfurous pit.

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 03:33 PM (nj1bB)

--

All of this brings to mind an old quote from Yogi Berra: "You can observe a lot just by watching".  That's the problem with looking at the candidates closely and over a period of time - there's flaws with all of them.....but, some have more flaws than others (i.e. Luap Nor).

86
People need to a) get over their "It's gonna be the end of the world if Romney is nominated" anxiety, and b) stop thinking the blogs/comment threads can shape the outcome of the GOP nomination process.

87 I think all pr0n should be filtered through my computer.  I'll let all of you know what to watch and what not to watch.

88 >>77 ...because perry is too much like gwb let's get jeb bush to run? omg.........

No more family dynasties!!! 

So let's elect a guy whose daddy was governor of Michigan!

89 >>>Ace, from what Joffen has said on other threads, it's not about Santorum, it's about spending time complaining about Republican candidates instead of making a really big deal about Obama declaring Congress in recess and ignoring the Constitution. Okay I did three posts on that on one day. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to keep writing. It remains unconstitutional, just as it was when I said so last week. In order for me to write an essay, I need a take which is original (or at least which I think is original). There are pontificators on the internet who just keep saying the same thing over and over again. I try not to do that too much. That might be comforting for some people just to know that someone out there is repeating the same thing every day, but I don't think people really read that stuff very much.

90 At least two films were made popular by Pirates, made profit from word of mouth created by file sharing. Ink and The Man from Earth. There was also a Female singer, Canadian I think, who put all her music on a pay what you feel it is worth basis.She made a profit. Luis CK is just new to the game.

91 joffen.....take a deep breath.....please....get some rest....

92 Personally, I'll stick with Ron White when I need a good laugh. At the expense of just about everyone. Including Ron White. Edgy is code for crap.

93 Tabloid boobie shots

That's what Facebook is for.

94

Herbert Hoover regulated radio in its early days, and the government's licensing scheme froze radio technology where it was in 1928, and it stayed frozen for a good 75 years. 

If it hadn't been for government-issued frequency licenses, radio would have quickly developed into something like a proto-internet, with multiple media providers broadcasting (or narrowcasting?) to the audience without interference.  Hedy Lamarr (the film star) helped invent the frequency-hopping technology used by cell phones and wi-fi, as early as the 1940s, but gave it to the government, who sat on it. 

The FCC's licensing scheme is the reason radio media sucks. You have 2-3 listen-able stations in any given area, and a total of a couple of dozen licenses to be had.  Frequency hopping could have made that all obsolete, but only if the FCC would have allowed it. 

The federal government is doing its best to fuck up the Internet too, and maybe with SOPA and net neutrality, they might get their way.

95

AoSHQ: Where a post about SOPA and Internet Regulation is almost guaranteed to include a link to a D&D and/or porn star website.  In this case, it's two birds with one stone!

I love this place.

96

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at January 09, 2012 03:32 PM (ZiYQG)

Record companies are going to go the way of Kodak before too long. Digital media has been THE game changer in a lot of ways (some not so good i.e. Autotune) and we're definitely in the middle of a media revolution right now.

It'll be interesting to see how the record companies react to all this.

97 >>> Uh...not a Santorum guy whatsoever. Unless you guys are talking about someone else. I'm 100% pro-Perry and always will be. I certainly hope my comment wasn't taken as "we all need to support Santorum" because that would be hilarious. Sorry Joffen mama aj just informed me I had misread you. Apologies. But still, see my last comment. Not sure what you want me to do. I can't invent news. I have not heard of a strategy to stop Obama, apart from a lawsuit, which I trust will be filed, and I will cover it then.

98 i don't want the son of the michigan gov...i'm just saying that all we heard was perry is another gwb.....idiot texan gov.......so they would be pacified with an actual bush?

99
In Texas, if you kill somebody, we kill you back.

-Ron White

100 In Texas, if you kill somebody, we kill you back.

-Ron White
Posted by: Doctor Fish


Two lanes, no waiting for the death penalty.

101 In a statement to The Atlantic Wire, National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor dismissed the The Guardian's story. "This report is not accurate," he said. "The United States has not decided to release any Taliban officials from Guantanamo Bay in return for the Taliban's agreement to open a political office for peace negotiations."

102 Remember when we all thought Rick Santorum was a whiny prick who needn't be taken seriously?

OT: Hillbuzz has a post on the upcoming Romney's Mormanism smear book set to come out next month. And it's just on the alleged misogyny stuff. And it is pretty damned ugly, scrapping the bottom of the barrel, lies and misrepresentations.

The anti-black stuff is yet to come.

This: "Mormons have a terrible habit of shooting the messenger and desperately trying to pretend that these attacks from the Left are not going to come.  IÂ’ve run this site for four years now and during that time IÂ’ve seen many Mormons prove themselves to be very prickly when Mormonism is discussed in any way in the nation at large."

Is exactly how his supporters across the net act. They are all on the Underpants Gnome theory of winning the Presidency: 1) Nominate Romney, 2) ???? 3) Win Presidency!!


Read more http://hillbuzz.org/

103 ace, maybe I'm not being fair to you and expecting too much from a blog. I think that's it. This is my one and only forum where I can "meet" with like-minded conservatives. I enjoy this site way too much to leave, I guess. I thought I could try and rally everyone to call Congress or do something to show our utter disgust. I think I might have overestimated this blog and that's my fault. I'm just exasperated. I was hoping to see Obama voted out in November but it seems like it's too long for him to be in power now. This power-grab really fucked up my mind.

104 It'll be interesting to see how the record companies react to all this.

Judging by Napster and Limewire........ SUE!!!.

105 I certainly hope the textbook publishers go by way of the dinosaur.  The cost of textbooks is obscene.

Yeah- textbook publishers are the worst.  What a scam.

Not only do they charge outrageous amounts, but they'll continuously release "new" editions that have no significant changes to them at all.  For instance, they might offer slightly different practice problems, or arrange chapters in different order.

They do this to make previous editions worthless as used books, forcing students to buy the new edition that the professor will require.

106 Ace's Non Support of Santorum: 1 year plus 3 weeks

And thus is a Heretic is smoked out of his sulfurous pit. Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 03:33 PM

Ace's non support of Eli Manning: 4 years plus 48 weeks

Ace's support of Eli Manning: 23 hours

107 Imagine if some of the conservative energy here was spent more usefully.

So even if we consider academia and old media lost causes for now, all the websites I visit, have just random hardcore leftists who do their daily postings.

-computer hardware
-consumer
-sci fi
-gaming
-big black booties
-wikipedia

These dozen people who constantly work their propaganda, narrative, talking points etc.. into these otherwise non political websites distort the views of people who are like empty sponges since they avoid explicitly political sources.  I cant help but wonder how many conservatives with expertise could be working their way into the information systems thus...rather then ranting away at fellow cheerleaders here.

108

I kinda liked Skyline. Wasn't it basically about an alien race seeking BRAINS  across the universe?

Pretty much.  It's not awful but it's not good either.

Wasn't Monsters  pretty much made without any studio support?

Yup.  I liked that a lot better the second time I watched it.  The first time I thought it was an interesting failure but the second time it pulled together more.  The effects for the creature work are really well done though.

Speaking of small movies, if you haven't seen Splinter I really liked it.  It doesn't aim to be high art but it makes the most out of the set up. 

 

 

109 All the way to the scene of the crash, which is convenient because that's where the ambulance will turn up, eventually.

Ya caught me, Ya caught the tater.

110 >>>I thought I could try and rally everyone to call Congress or do something to show our utter disgust. I think I might have overestimated this blog and that's my fault. If you have a plan, I'll listen. This is a technical legal thing. I don't know what calling Congressmen will do. Is there some strategy to force Obama to withdraw this other than a suit? Shut down the government (they won't do that)? I don't know.

111 @108

I always wondered if my professors were stockholders in textbook publishers, given their predilection to assign multiple textbooks for any given course.

112 The big book publishers are on their way out.  They haven't realized the train has left the station.  Innovation and the "new" commerce will find a way. 

I certainly hope the textbook publishers go by way of the dinosaur.  The cost of textbooks is obscene.

Posted by: mpfs at January 09, 2012 03:36 PM (iYbLN)

 

Perhaps we could do without the big publishing firms but keep smaller printing companies.  'Cause I still love having a book in my hands, not another electronic whizbang.  There are some things I still consider sacred. 

113 Look, the thing about the Obama administration's lawlessness that depresses me the most (having accepted that he can do any fucking thing he wants because the media has his back) is that it shows how hopeless it is relying on Republicans in Congress. 

I'm not saying that it's obvious what the GOP should do about it, but I guess it's pretty clear to me that they don't operate based on principles at all.  It's all political self-serving crap.

And what depresses me about that is realizing I've been sold Romney as The Option for months based on the (insane) notion that a GOP Congress would somehow make him govern to the right. 

Anyone who believes that is delusional. 


Anyway, Joffen, I have had to alter my reading the past couple of months.  Some places are so unbearable in their delight in tripping up every non-Romney candidate that I rarely visit them any longer.  Only a handful of sites seem to be making positive cases for the two candidates that I think I could support --- Perry (definite) and Gingrich  (maybe). 

Like others said, take a break for a bit.  We'll see you later.

114
speaking of robots...

do Not see REAL STEEL

it is retarded

115

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to keep writing. It remains unconstitutional, just as it was when I said so last week.

Ah, I don't know exactly. There have been times...see Shamnesty and Anthony's Weiner...you do have some power to keep an issue front and center...

Personally, I'm muttering into my keyboard that nobody's calling for Eugene Robinson to be fired. Repeatedly. Day after day. And yet I haven't started my own blog aobut it...

116 by 'techical legal thing" I mean as opposed to a vote on a bill. I understand what happens when there's a vote-- we call congressmen. Here Obama avoided a vote. He seized power he doesn't have. I have not yet read what a useful response to this would be. I can't dream up a response; it's out of my wheelhouse. All I can think of is a suit.

117 making a really big deal about Obama declaring Congress in recess and ignoring the Constitution.

Yes; Messy politics. Now is not the time to bitch about that, it won't get us anywhere. Obama did it to make us rile up and make us look like impotent noise makers who are hanging on a point of protocol. The best we can do is hope that one of these appointees does something that overreaches so we can resuscitate this issue in the general.

Joffen is pissed because this is just stomping on the Constitution and he wants something done. Well be pissed at the milque, because the vast middle of this country couldn't care about a confirmation process, as evidenced by the fact the media couldn't really get any bustle about it under Bush, and the milque's decades of apathy to the letter of the law has brought us to the brink of ruin as they tacitly rubber-stamped every power grab prior to this one. We would have to actually move the country to the right in order to get them incensed about this.

That's who America is right now. Get angry about it, or sad, or whatever, but if this nation is to survive, a huge swath of the population has to learn to care about what goes on. And that has to happen before we can stomp on someone for doing something like Obama did.

118 "This report is not accurate," he said. "The United States has not decided to release any Taliban officials from Guantanamo Bay in return for the Taliban's agreement to open a political office for peace negotiations." Posted by: Jared Loughner at January 09, 2012 03:44 PM

We undecided when it became unsecret

119

Declaring things the President does as unconstitutional is a dangerous political game.  It didn't work out well for the Dems to consistently say that about Bush, even with a complicit media. 

Whether the Dems started the practice or not, simply holding pro forma sessions as a way to keep the Senate not in recess will look to many as a political game simply to thwart the President from making appointments.  Just saying it is unconstitutional does not make it so. 

120 As soon as the Dems bring up Mormonism it allows the Press and anyone else to bring up Obama's 20 years in the radical black theology church. The Dems don't want that. There will be a whispering campaign that will amount to nothing.

121 Joffen --

I'm not exactly your favorite person on AoSHQ, obviously, but please take it from someone who feels EXACTLY the way you do (of course, my angle is frustration that so many conservatives seem invested in hating on and tearing down the one guy who I think can actually defeat Obama)...give it some time.

Step away from commenting for as long as you need.  You might think it'll take a month, a week, whatever, but maybe it'll just be 24 hours.  It really IS about taking a few (metaphorical) deep breaths and giving yourself time to clear your head and let the anger and frustration subside. 

I would submit that most (if not ALL) of the commenters here on AoSHQ are as pissed and worked-up about the things you're talking about as you are.  But we all process it differently, and in fact many of us react in different ways at different times.  Sometimes it's splenetic, white-hot rage or wordy rants (hey, those are two Jeff B. specialties right there).  Sometimes it's dark gallows humor.  Sometimes it's affected indifference, given that we all realize that the only game that will really count is the election in November, and everything else is just venting on the internet.  Just because we aren't all running to pitchforks and torches right now (or because we support different candidates for different reasons, or take slightly different angles) doesn't mean we aren't all in the same boat, trying to row in the same direction.

So take however long you need -- even if that means you're back tonight mixing shit up in the ONT.  Nobody will call you a drama queen or make fun of it.  You're part of the gang, it's understandable.  (Hell, if even assholes like me can be accepted around here, you're in MUCH BETTER shape.)

But I know how you feel, buddy.

122 >>>Ah, I don't know exactly. There have been times...see Shamnesty and Anthony's Weiner...you do have some power to keep an issue front and center... One of those is a vote where the response is obvious. Here I think the response is a lawsuit, unless there's some other procedural thing we can do, but in that case I don't know about it. I don't know all the procedural tricks, obviously. I don't think anhyone who doesn't work in congress does.

123 Get. Over. Yourself.

124 >>101 i don't want the son of the michigan gov...

I know.  Sorry, I wasn't clear.  Shoulda had a sarc tag!

125 No thank you. Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 03:35 PM (nj1bB) ace, where sticking with stupid is an attribute of nobility. Look, dude. Supporting Perry is great, pooping on all non-Perrys Dem-style with outright lies and misquotes from DemRapidResponse youtube and Hotair/Redstate propaganda arms, like you and pretty much all of your co-bloggers do, consistently, at the past week, is retarded.

126

>>> "I always wondered if my professors were stockholders in textbook publishers, given their predilection to assign multiple textbooks for any given course."

That's what the kickbacks are for.

127 I have a problem with a "Be Angry" post with no plausible means suggested of channeling that Anger. If ultimately it's just "Be Angry, and vote out obama" -- well, I do that every day.

128 I'm amazed people think Louis CK is funny.

I laugh at his standup but when it's over I feel ashamed and depressed.

The "sitcom" is utterly awful.  As was an earlier attempt at sitcom by him.

129 Close to the Borderline

130 by the way, Joffen, since you are animated about it, why don't you write a post and I'll post it?

131 Joffen is angry at Obama's non recess appt. and what he considers the lack of action on the republican side. (i think).
it is tough to know He is getting away with it.

132
Jeff B is doing his impression of Will Ferrell yelling, "CALM DOWN, EVERYONE!"

133 I like LouieCK's sitcom. It's a bit of an acquired taste.

134 Venezuela is essentially robbing itself of possible billions in dividends that ExxonMobil would have paid to the country over the lifespan of the oil field, Gheit said. As a corporation established over a century ago, Gheit remarked, ExxonMobil has a track record of outlasting adversarial regimes.

135 I thought I could try and rally everyone to call Congress or do something to show our utter disgust. I think I might have overestimated this blog and that's my fault.

And then what? If they're a Democrat, they don't care and if they're a Republican the most they can do right now is issue a press release or something expressing their disapproval. 

136 Walrus, I loved Jeb when he was my Governor but come on now - really, another Bush?  I thought part of the problem with Perry was that he sounded like Bush!

137 >>>Look, dude. Supporting Perry is great, pooping on all non-Perrys Dem-style with outright lies and misquotes from DemRapidResponse youtube and Hotair/Redstate propaganda arms, ay yi yi. You just don't want anyone to know the problems with your Flavor of the Week. I'm tired of this bullshit -- embargo information about my candidate so he can win. Go join the MSM or somethin'.

138 ' Emo Group Sessions Free Tomorrow! '

139 @105
I will not be able to defend Mitt on that one.  It's going to be ugly. 

140 I do like that once ace found out Joffen was a Perry supporter his demeanor changed. Nothing wrong with that but it is just evidence that we are a tribal species whether we like it or not.

141 Thanks Jeff B. I guess I was kinda being a drama queen, huh? I wish I knew how to calm the fuck down about this. I have been literally losing sleep over this. I really am convinced that the Constitution is worthless right now and if Obama wants to, he can ignore even more of the Constitution. I feel like things are too important to stop, but it's really costing me. So I don't know what to do. Maybe start drinking more.

142 Whoops:  #139 above referred to walrus #78 post.

143 >>>Jeff B is doing his impression of Will Ferrell yelling, "CALM DOWN, EVERYONE!"

I'm not yelling this time, Soothsayer.  I know, I know - a rare thing for me, but I genuinely understand exactly where he's coming from, right up to the "seething" part.

144

RE: the lingering death of old media forms, here's a question for y'all.

I do a lot of cross stitching.  My pattern-purveyance of choice is cross stitch books.  They're a good size and they're relatively compact for all the content they hold.  I don't know how something like that could be translated to an e-book format without losing a lot of its usability.  I imagine the same could be said for a lot of hobbyist and how-to books.  Do you think the "dead tree" book industry will hobble on in support of those types of books while ceding most narrative literature - fiction and nonfiction - to digital format?

145
A few years ago Ace was making fun of Important Action Alerts, which were funny.

It's too bad, but our side doesn't mobilize like the left.

146 Louis CK is a prime example of a really sick weirdo making a living as a comedian by just being himself.
So it's fitting that his self distributed comedy droppings highlight the Wizard Of Oz aspect of the traditional media.
Larry David and his piss Christ shtick is in the same class - like about eighth grade boys basketball team humor.

147 Errr #74 above

148 Honestly, even the gaming industry has it coming, though it seems to be rolling a bit better. Steam is helping that a lot. Things like the Humble Indie Bundle are helping to build indie games up a lot, and a lot of them are pretty good.

149

Go join the MSM or somethin'.

I tried that...the things they wanted me to do to keep my job!?

I told them, 'That's what interns are for!'.

150 I hate the marketing of media. You never know when the fuck a show is going to premiere until a few weeks before it does. And this is after it's been on hiatus for 1-2 years. I'm sick of internationally popular shows airing in one country a year before airing in the US. It's a small world. If you don't want people illegally downloading stuff, don't make them wait for no good fcking reason for a year to see something.

151 >>>I'm tired of this bullshit -- embargo information about my candidate so he can win.

I completely agree....so in the spirit of such things, what's your opinion of Perry attacking Romney along the same "liberal playbook" lines that Newt and his PAC are peddling?  "All's fair in love and war?"

152 by the way, Joffen, since you are animated about it, why don't you write a post and I'll post it?

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 03:50 PM (nj1bB)

 

Geez, Joffen, go for it.  If for nothing else but to get a glimpse of Ace's inner sanctum. 

153 I think it's funny.  The broadcasting industry has been screwing the artist for decades.  It's good that they're getting the shaft because of Al Gore's internet.

154 I'm sorry. I am at my wits end here. I see America headed on the path to a dictatorship and there's nobody talking about it. I'm worried that I am wasting my time here because the people that are genuinely frightened of Obama's power grab are outnumbered 5:1 on this blog. I am tired but I want to fight this power-hungry dictator and I dont know what to do about it.
Posted by: Joffen at January 09, 2012 03:39 PM (zLeKL)
--
That pretty much sums up the problem doesn't it.  All we can do is vote - that's all we have short of full-blown shoot-the-bastards revolution.  Personally, I think that's where we'll eventually end up.  It's sad, but there's no "politician" that will actually do the right thing once elected. 
The Obama administration is probably the first truly 100% "political" administration to ever hold the office.  Every act is designed purely for political gain.  This method of governing has sped up the surge of evil in every aspect of government whether it's out of control spending or corruption. 
The bottom line is that I don't believe there's any "politician" that can save the country.  There are some that might slow down the inevitable, but none that can stop it.

155 by the way, Joffen, since you are animated about it, why don't you write a post and I'll post it? I was thinking of writing something a few nights ago...wow I would love to have a post about this ace. That would be great. I'm not the best writer but I will definitely hammer something together. Thanks again, I appreciate all you do here. and thanks for all your support guys.

156 I have yet to hear anything positive about Santorum except: 1. he's not romney (so are all others save Romney) 2. Jesus (all others are Christian) 3. He has some appeal to blue collar voters (so do others, and btw, part of that appeal is due to his pro-union positioning). oh but he's the guy. Because we, who have furiously, spasmodically jumped from one Flavor of the Week to the next, now say so.

157

IIRC, this whole thing with the record companies started by the Feds not enforcing existing copyright laws when sites like Napster first started. It didn't take long for a lot of other people to figure out that they'd get off literally Scot free if they started distributing other people's music and sold advertising whilst they were doing so, without compensating the record companies.

I, personally, won't miss them either. The entire game appears to be rigged: how many times have you listened to the radio and said, "What kind of shit is that? How'd they get any airplay?"

Add to that the absolute refusal of the big record companies to allow any stations to play album cuts (which is where the good stuff really is, or at least was, back when there were albums).

The model will return to it's roots if it hasn't already done so, namely live performances. Artists will self-produce, thus taking complete control over their product without some drooling A&R guy wanting some sort of "special favor" (like drugs or payola) to get their stars heard.

BTW, my main band still has about four hundred CD's for sale...

158

Here I think the response is a lawsuit, unless there's some other procedural thing we can do, but in that case I don't know about it

People were muttering about defunding this or that, but I don't really know what's possible and/or what would just look pissy in a bad sort of way.

 

 

159

that record isn't everything

 

Everything?   no...

but aside for, 'All for Leyna' and '...(you were the one)', it's a pretty strong album.

160 "Trust my judgment-- I change my mind, dramatically and completely, every two and a half weeks."

161 Things like the Humble Indie Bundle are helping to build indie games up a lot, and a lot of them are pretty good.

Posted by: Kort at January 09, 2012 03:54 PM (r8iwp)

I'm an intermittent gamer -- read "I go on gaming binges every six months or so" -- but I've never heard of the Humble Indie Bundle.  Sounds interesting.  Got a link?

162

 thanks for all your support guys.

Now you have to bake cookies for us.

163 I crapped all over a morning headlines thread a few days ago, the rage was white hot and all I saw were comments supporting Rick Santorum...I'm pretty sure I wasn't very nice about it. Jeez.

164 >>>Ah, I don't know exactly. There have been times...see Shamnesty and Anthony's Weiner...you do have some power to keep an issue front and center...

Well the Internet is the ideal forum for keeping something like a dicpic alive. But a fine point of process?

Like double layered political maneuvering?

It's like live coverage of a chess game. Only people who play chess can get through it, otherwise it could be marketed as a cure for insomnia.

Here see what I mean about double layered

Point 1. Obama would say the Senate holding pro forma session is just a political maneuver to keep him from appointing someone while Congress is in recess and not how the founders intended it. He is 100% right.

Point 2. We would say the founders intended that part back when congress spent huge swaths of the year out of session, not a few weeks during Christmas and that part of the process was intended for that situation, not what Obama did, which was deliberately wait UNTIL Congress was in sorta recess then nominate to sidestep confirmation.

And then we would get what for trotting down this road? Nothing.

Maybe if someone can find standing they can sue, but unless the public gets upset about something, upset enough to tell their senator and rep to DO SOMETHING!!!!!! Then the proper response, which is impeachment, is out of reach.

165 I have yet to hear anything positive about Santorum except:

Did you see the work-up that Red State did on him??

You really need to link it -- I'll see if I can find it. I linked it yesterday.

166 Now you have to bake cookies for us. How about I buy y'all a round of beers? Heh.

167
You go to war with the army you have, not with the army you want.

-- D. Rumsfeld

168 Louis CK is awesome.... I am downloading the special now. This is the future. Put your show on a thumb drive and watch it anywhere at anytime, And Santorum is a dweeb.... Maybe he can be a spokesman for ____________.

169

2. Jesus (all others are Christian)

Well, leaving aside the Mormon issue, you could say he's applealing more to social cons.

Which worries the heck out of me because I don't want the lefties inspired to get out of their depression and vote in November.

170 I'm tired of this bullshit -- embargo misinformation about my candidate so he can win. Go join the MSM or somethin'. Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 03:52 PM (nj1bB) FIFY. I mean, Great ace can't be seriously referring to DemRapidResponse youtube misquoted upload as "information". Or could he? Also, ace wouldn't infer that I supported Romney 10 minutes ago, and now I support Santorum. The ace I know would never imply that there can never be a worldly possibility that some people actually don't like misinformation and lies being spread about candidates, without being fanboys of said candidates. The ace I know would never suggest EVERYONE tries to derail Perry, by saying a right-wing blog shouldn't stoop in a pile of poo still hot right from Democrats' rectum, let alone fling it. So that's it. Just a typo. Or demonic possession.

171 Santorum =  Tim Pawlenty waving a crucifix

I get what Ace is doing here. You know when you tell someone not to go home with this guy/girl because they're trouble or they're a loser?

Sorry, but relying on red state socons isn't a winning strategy

I'm also wondering if his showing in Iowa wasn't some shenanigans by lefty voters doing their own Operation Chaos

172 The ragequit thing is too much. I was close to doing it myself when Ace revealed that the story about Anne Hathaway loving it in the squeaker was false. Plus the time when he came out in favor of TARP. And again when he called me a homo for not finding Zooey Deschanel's frumpy hipster ass attractive. And every single time, I rise above, Joffen. I fucking Rise. ABOVE. Because there's people out there counting on us. People without dick-jokes. People who are searching for the Biblical commandment that tells your wife she must surrender the booty. People who haven't heard enough inappropriate names for the vagina. People who wonder, "Hey, where can I find a link to a picture of a busty Japanese girl in bra and panties squeezing through an really narrow doorway?" Maybe you can turn your back on those people. I can't do that. Fucking sunshine patriot.

173 furiously, spasmodically jumped from one Flavor of the Week to the next, now say so.


That's not completely fair.
It wasn't exactly random now;

174 was it a negative work-up about being a big-gov't conservative? if so, yes (and I didn't link it, embargo-urgers).

175

I got a cinnabon one time in my life.  At an airport.  It was impossible to eat it. 

Posted by: fluffy at January 09, 2012 03:28 PM (3SvjA)

 

Mastering the plastic spork they give takes years.  Luckily, your government has made it safe so that during your learning years, you wonÂ’t kill yourself or others.

176
Hell.... IMHO... the recess appointments are the LEAST of this administrations transgressions.  In the span of three years, this administration has nationalized two of the big three auto companies,  forced compensation "guidelines" on banks, passed legislation to force Americans to buy insurance products they may or may not want, appointed forty some czars not subject to Congressional oversight, is pursuing FCC regulations in defiance of and contrary to congressional legislation, supplied drug cartels with straw purchased firearms resulting in the deaths of two Federal Agents, toppled sovereign governments without so much as a call to Congress and the UN..... and farts in the oval office with even cracking the window.

177 Maybe if someone can find standing they can sue, but unless the public gets upset about something, upset enough to tell their senator and rep to DO SOMETHING!!!!!! Then the proper response, which is impeachment, is out of reach. That's what I was trying for. I have been calling and calling Senators and Representatives. I've also been posting on facebook about this a lot, because even if people don't comment, they might just read it. I've been yelling at strangers on the street, but that tactic has been...less than fruitful.

178

 thanks for all your support guys.

Now you have to bake cookies for us.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 09, 2012 03:58 PM (XdlcF)

I've got this idea of an oatmeal, dried cranberry and white chocolate chip cookie.

Chop chop!

179

Maybe start drinking more.

Valu-Rite, it's not just for breakfast any more.

Also, Joffen, beware of "writing whislt Irish" (being pissed). I did it once and regretted it ever since. No biggie, since nobody reads my blog anyway, there were no reactions to what I wrote, but it still bugged me.

Sometimes, still having a conscience is a bitch.

180 Okay here's the link on how The Sweater-vest^TM sucks it so hard

from yesterday -

285 Red State spent the better part of the week compiling Santorum's voting record. To call it horrendous would be an understatement. Read for yourself --

What a Big Government Conservative Looks Like.

181 The text book publishers are not the ones solely to blame for the outrageous scam.  They provide the colleges and professors with "rebates" (kickbacks) to get them to use their latest textbooks and require students to buy it.

And in a damn lot of cases they require students to buy a $150 book and then never use it once during the course. It is not just bullshit, it should be illegal extortion.

182 >>All I can think of is a suit.
Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 03:48 PM (nj1bB)

_{The Republic is on the edge of a cliff and you're thinking about your wardrobe?
I just pray that Joffen doesn't see this latest example of your curious and superficial fashion sense.}

183 #106 Joffen:  We ARE writing and calling and internetting our Congressmen.  And we need to keep it up, but there are just so many times that you can write your Demo Senator or RINO Senator and have pablum sent back that you realize that the ultimate solution is to vote the bastards out.  But it doesn't take 100% of our time, we can still have fun and grouse on this site.  And yeah, it is a great site to visit with people who have similiar standards and view points and just let your hair down.

184

How about I buy y'all a round of beers

Valu-u-Rite chip cookies. Win win!

185 You go to war with the army you have, not with the army you want.

-- D. Rumsfeld
Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2012 04:00 PM

Rumsfeld stole that from ME !!!!

186 @polynikes

At best I think the Ayers/Wright history will be a small speedbump to the anti-mormon degradation, aren't mormons weird?, OMG lewk at their weird history!11! noise machines the left is going to crank up for the next year+ if Romney is nominated.  From comedy central to "the view" to MSNBC to humanities class to this weeks episode of "the office/simpsons/law and order/ etc..."  Everyone is going to be inundated with it customized to their own personal flavor.

In terms of what will get past that noise machine, I think you vastly overestimate how interested the general population is in the Ayers/Wright Obama history.  The press tried to smother it at the time and managed to save his bacon by not letting it reach critical mass.  Since that time its been at slow simmer for years now and only about half of conservative activists even get worked up about it anymore.  To them Obama now feels like a known quantity, Romney is the new different one they are unsure about.

187 Chemjeff, you prove my point. Yes, record is everything because as the old saying goes, "talk is cheap".

You just don't like record because Romney's record is shit.

188
2000 GOP presidential candidate field:

Gov Bush
Dan Quayle
Bob Smith
Elizabeth Dole
Lamar Alexander
Gary Bauer
Steve Forbes
Bob Dornan
Orrin Hatch
John Kasich
Alan Keyes
John McCain

Helluva bunch, eh?

189

" ...There are two things you need to complete this mission; a syringe... and a Cellular Overseas Communicator..."

          - Donald 'Rummy' Rumsfeld

 

nsfw

 

190
Anyway, Joffen, I have had to alter my reading the past couple of months.  Some places are so unbearable in their delight in tripping up every non-Romney candidate that I rarely visit them any longer.  Only a handful of sites seem to be making positive cases for the two candidates that I think I could support --- Perry (definite) and Gingrich  (maybe). 

Like others said, take a break for a bit.  We'll see you later.

Posted by: Y-not at January 09, 2012 03:48 PM (5H6zj)

The Other McCain is one. His shilling for Cain was way over the top. He got a bit crazy. I had to quit visiting his site 'cause the delusion was too deep. Then, when he dropped out, I checked back and saw he seemed to be jumping on the Santorum clown cart. I hadn't been back and half-joked to myself that by now the crazy had probably gone to Paul. And sure enough, top post today is a report on Paul.

The other is PoliPundit. To hear him tell it, Rick Perry has personally smuggled Mexicans across the border and only stopped when Mitt Romney and his posse caught him in the act on one of their routine border patrols after building another 30,000 miles of impenetrable fence.

191

People were muttering about defunding this or that, but I don't really know what's possible and/or what would just look pissy in a bad sort of way.

According to the Volkoh Conspiracy folks, who tend to know their shit about this stuff, under some other bill, Dodd something or other (note that I am not up on this shit), the appointee would have no legal authority to enact anything.  So even if he's in place, he has no power.

Now, that's wonky as all get out, but it reminds me of the thing in The Firm, go after them for mail fraud, it's not sexy but it's got teeth. 

If Jeff B. gets to be Will Ferrell, then I get to kill somebody with a trident. 

192 Doesn't everyone realize what a win win this new in your face and illegal Obama thing is all about? If nothing at all get said about it it props up his reelection chances. If he gets seriously challenged by the Republican candidates, it helps him even more. And if the House Republicans start to ramp up impeachment proceedings, it virtually guarantees his reelection. And please, please, try to recall, that an impeachment trial happens in the Senate, where the Democrats currently have a majority. Win-win, totally. Expect more, much more.

193 Drama Queen still hasn't told me what was wrong with the post apart from his general denial of it, and that it came from a Dem. The video is of his own words. Unedited.

194 >>Posted by: Shiggz at January 09, 2012 04:04 PM (RfvTE)

Obama sat in a church. 

Romney led a congregation. 

That's the difference. 

195 oh but he's the guy. Because we, who have furiously, spasmodically jumped from one Flavor of the Week to the next, now say so.

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 03:55 PM (nj1bB)

I've been out of the loop the last week or so, though I know Santorum pulled off a huge almost-win in Iowa last Tuesday.  But I haven't seen anything on my usual spate of websites -- PJM, here, the Bigs -- that paints Santorum as the next "Not Romney" in the same way that Perry, Cain, and Gingrich were portrayed.  It seems like a weak little bubble buoyed by his surprising success in Iowa.  I don't get the same vibe off the Santorum "wave" that I got from any of the previous not-Romney popularity surges.  So is this really a phenomenon?  Or just a lot of folks going, "Wait, who?  Santorum?  The guy who's got a face like a surprised weasel?  What does he stand for?" 

It feels less like people rallying behind him and more like people finally taking a moment to investigate his campaign to see if it suits them.  I don't think a lot of them are going to be swayed to his side.

196 Vic@187, the text book scam is as much or more a scam on parents as it is on students. I remember overhearing some students here, one was trying to convince the other to buy ebooks because they are (or were) apparently a lot less expensive. The response: “I don’t pay for the books, my dad does. But I get the money when I turn them back in at the end of the year.”

197 Joffen, if you're still there, don't throw in the towel on the site. We're a rabble, but a good sort of rabble. Where else is there to go?
Chances are excellent that Obama will get back in, the country has been trending socialist for years.
But things always change, and we have to have humor in the meantime. So, hang in there, take the long view like the opposition does.

198 Maybe you can turn your back on those people. I can't do that.

Fucking sunshine patriot. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2012 04:02 PM

Man ... that was so fuckin' beautiful ...

199 >>>The Other McCain is one. His shilling for Cain was way over the top. He got a bit crazy. I had to quit visiting his site 'cause the delusion was too deep. Then, when he dropped out, I checked back and saw he seemed to be jumping on the Santorum clown cart Because God signaled him to -- yes, he said that. He's said it multiple times now. I'm not joining this emotional faith-based spasmodic crusade.

200 The thing with campaigns is, you want negative coverage of a candidate in a blog? Have that candidate keep stepping on his dick. I know for a fact ace has no love for Romney yet you hardly ever see an anti-Romney post because the guy doesn't give people the bullets to shoot him with. Call it boring if will, but it sure seems to be working. Newt, Perry, Santurom, etc. can't seem to let a week go by without doing some self-sabotage with their mouth.

201

Point 1. Obama would say the Senate holding pro forma session is just a political maneuver to keep him from appointing someone while Congress is in recess and not how the founders intended it. He is 100% right.

Point 2. We would say the founders intended that part back when congress spent huge swaths of the year out of session, not a few weeks during Christmas and that part of the process was intended for that situation, not what Obama did, which was deliberately wait UNTIL Congress was in sorta recess then nominate to sidestep confirmation.

Point 3.  Per the US Constitution:  Congress gets to make it's own rules.  Somewhere down the line, both the House and the senate agreed to the rules as they stand today.  Tough shit if the dems find themselves in a sticky situation with agreed-upon rules.

202 How about I buy y'all a round of beers

Just don't offer us pancakes after please.

203 Fucking sunshine patriot. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2012 04:02 PM (PLHIl) *** Not my place, but I'll say it anyway: Thread winner. Another ruined keyboard. And people wonder why I hang out here.

204 My priest was so excited about Sweater Vest. We had almost as big a fight as when he supported McCain. I told him then, "The base will not come out." He replied that he didn't care about "the base". This time I told him the women would not come out and reminded him of McCain. I think he's glad he's celebate.

205
Kinda feel bad for honorary Moron, Nick Searcy, for making that funny ad for Herman Cain.

206 2000 GOP presidential candidate field:

Those were some awful, AWFUL debates in the fall of 1999.

207 But I haven't seen anything on my usual spate of websites -- PJM, here, the Bigs -- that paints Santorum as the next "Not Romney" in the same way that Perry, Cain, and Gingrich were portrayed.
------
NRO is moderately (heh) pro-Santorum.  A bit of a "we told you so" thing going there. 

208

Fucking sunshine patriot.

Joffen, if you don't add that to your nic, I will be very disappointed in you.

209 2000 GOP presidential candidate field:

Elizabeth Dole

Helluva bunch, eh?
Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2012 04:05 PM

Bob Dole thinks Elizabeth Dole was robbed !

210
Those were some awful, AWFUL debates in the fall of 1999.


yeah, but you'd give your left ovary to have them all back now

211 Oh, and why would professors assign textbooks that are really expensive?

The bigger question is why do some assign textbooks they know they will never use?

212

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2012 04:02 PM (PLHIl)

What is this salty discharge?

213 211 Funniest blog on the internets.

214 You guys are the best.

215 yeah, but you'd give your left ovary to have them all back now


Ooooooooo.... I love left overies!!!!   Cold lasagna is the BEST!!!!!

216 @Posted by: chemjeff at January 09, 2012 04:09 PM (7FadD)

Do you get anything for assigning a textbook?  I never did, but I was not course director so I can't be sure that the other prof didn't.  I doubt it, though. 

217 Because God signaled him to -- yes, he said that. He's said it multiple times now.

I'm not joining this emotional faith-based spasmodic crusade.

Funny; When I talked to God about this years election he said

"It's your system, Your Party, YOUR PROBLEM!!! Besides it's 2012! AND I'VE GOT.......uh......other important stuff I have to plan for"

218 Perry!

219 ace why do you think Perry has been unable to get an endorsement from either Texas Republican Senators and less than half of the Republican congressional delegation? Do they know something we don't?

220 Not sure what you want me to do. I can't invent news.

Sure ya can Ace. Throw away scruples, shit-can the morals and go all MSM on our asses

221 OT: Interesting link over at Drudge about FLOTUS' ire over how the
Daley/Hines/Madigan, ie, the 'Catholics' 'locked up' the politics in Chicago.

Boy oh boy, the WH must be seething over this book.

I'm doing a belated Christmas w/my Chicago, very Catholic, very Democrat family this weekend. I'm very excited to just casually leave a print-out of this article sitting around.

In fact, I just printed 15 copies

222 For what it's worth, Aimee Mann's cds were better when she was NOT self-releasing.  Her best work is from when she was signed by a label, although I couldn't tell you which label.  Same with Sonic Youth, their best stuff was on Geffen.  Now it's like every time one of them plugs in a guitar and records the feedback, they release it on their "label." 

223 2007 Dem field

SCOAMF
Cankles Rodham-Clinton
Dennis Kucinich
Silky Pony
Sheriff Joe
Friend of Angelo Dodd
Mike Gravel
Bill "Mex" Richardson
The MBM

224 195
2000 GOP presidential candidate field:

Gov Bush
Dan Quayle
Bob Smith
Elizabeth Dole
Lamar Alexander
Gary Bauer
Steve Forbes
Bob Dornan
Orrin Hatch
John Kasich
Alan Keyes
John McCain

Helluva bunch, eh?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2012 04:05 PM (G/zuv)

Proving the Stupid Party is . . . consistently stupid. They've got a bottomless pit of shit sandwiches.

225 I don't think ace has been shilling for Perry all that much. I kinda wish he did, frankly. Get in line, bitches.

226 A little bit about the textbook industry.

It is not as insidious as you think.



And if the book includes any text or images under copyright (i.e., anything created after 1923 not specifically released into the public domain...so, just about everything), the textbook publisher has to pay the copyright holder (which is not necessarily the creator or his heirs) a royalty for each book printed.


Fucking Congress, being bought by Disney everytime Mickey Mouse nears the copyright expiry.

227
btw, Bob Dornan is my favorite on the list

228 214 Oh, and why would professors assign textbooks that are really expensive?  Because oftentimes professors have no idea what the list price is of their textbooks.  It's not like the price is part of the marketing materials that is sent to the professor.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 09, 2012 04:09 PM (7FadD)

Most of my professors were kind enough to put a couple copies of the required texts in the reserve section of my university's library.  If you couldn't afford the books, you could go to the library to do the reading.  And since no one ever actually READ the damn things, they were always available.

The sciences are by far the worst.  English and literature texts aren't going to change a whole lot from year to year, but the science texts change constantly. 

 

229 178

Brava, EOJ.  Brava.

This is why I come to this little depraved corner of the intarweb world.

I never knew what the term "pecker snot" meant until Cool Czech came along.

230 So why is the new fad to package one-time use codes that students will need for Astronomy 101 et al? Scammers.

231
in 2008 we had Duncan Hines but he was rejected by the stupid base

232 As bad as our candidate class of 2000 was, who will be the Dem Presidential candidates in 2016? The classes of 2000, 2004, & 2008 are Kaput! Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt! 
 

233

Not saying Santorum is the guy, but he comes across as a decent man who believes what he is saying and lives what he believes.

I don't understand what Rick Perry is doing with the class-warfare attack on Romney. It's just as big a turn-off as his "un-American" comment about illegals.

234 Do they know something we don't?

What that a lot of the party doesn't like him? That they would be pretty much ending any support for national level office if they endorsed him? What exactly could it be they know?

235 Oh thank God, I just remembered I have half a brownie (regular one not "special") from lunch.  All this cookie talk is driving me nuts.

236 Here's the link, MWR http://www.humblebundle.com/ I haven't played the ones in the latest pack but the ones that were featured before were pretty good. Worth the $5 for 6 games I could afford, at least.

237
I think the best thing for regular people to do is just promote the idea of it is illegal to follow any of the regulations given by the recess appointee.  Just don't follow the regs, its not like OdipO follows the constitution.

238

The sciences are by far the worst.  English and literature texts aren't going to change a whole lot from year to year, but the science texts change constantly. 

But, but the science is settled!

239 Obama sat in a church. 

Romney led a congregation. 

That's the difference.

No more Haiku please.

240 195

Bob Dornan was my guy that year.  Good times...

241 240 Wasn't there someone who de-lurked a few weeks ago? She was on the ONT and said that if it weren't for the Urban Dictionary, half the time she wouldn't know what the hell we were talking about.

242 228 ace why do you think Perry has been unable to get an endorsement from either Texas Republican Senators and less than half of the Republican congressional delegation? Do they know something we don't?

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 09, 2012 04:13 PM (NJ/I6)

And what do you think they know, genius?  Aside from the fact that Perry is not going to be the nominee, I mean?  Imagine that, politicians getting on/off the bandwagon, depending on how it best reflects on them...  Now, how many of them do you think really prefer your precious, Mr. Romney? 

243 Okay.  A little bit about the textbook industry.

It is not as insidious as you think.

The reason why "new" editions are put out every 2-3 years is because by that time the used textbooks have flooded the market and the publisher no longer makes any more money off of the textbook sales.

No, that's pretty fucking insidious.  Especially when they're charging $200 a pop for what is essentially the same book they've been selling for 10 years, but under 8 different editions.

244

btw, Bob Dornan is my favorite on the list

Yep, it was a shame that B-1 Bob never made it past NH.

245 Except for flat out opposing SOPA (in it's current form) Santorum's answer is not much different than Rep. Paul Ryan's:



"The internet is one of the most magnificent expressions of freedom and free enterprise in history. It should stay that way. While H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act, attempts to address a legitimate problem, I believe it creates the precedent and possibility for undue regulation, censorship and legal abuse. I do not support H.R. 3261 in its current form and will oppose the legislation should it come before the full House."

246 I have never seen such civility on AoSHQ as on this thread. 

247 I have never seen such civility on AoSHQ as on this thread. Yeah, that's my fault. Sorry.

248

Textbook scams are not just an urban myth

249 Y-not seriously, if Mormons are so bad how can you live in Utah?  Are you not in danger for your life?  So to you Jeremiah Wright is the same as these people?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K92yypyYX1E

Seriously I have lived far and wide in this nation (Alaska, the South, Seattle, Midwest, wyoming etc..)and Utahs current level of cultural rot reminds me of the midwest in the 80's where I grew up.  Most definitely flawed and not a positive outlook but a hell of alot better then most places right now.  Which is why I moved here, because in Chicago we were unsafe and my children would have little hope of finding enough decent friends to even have a hope of a healthy future.

Alot of that difference is simply because of the local church and its teachings and culture.  Maybe you need to spend some time in Chicago, or the mountain view area of Anchorage,  or any of the sesspools of dysfunction in the south.  Spend some time following Victor Davis Hanson tales from California.   Because unless your general assholeness is so strong you would come to the same conclusion I did and come running to Utah or one of the few places remaining like it which still has some good places to live for people not worth a million dollars.

Yet everyday you come here and slander good people of whom you directly benefit from their old fashionedness.  I find you predictable and with  self awareness and critical thinking skills that leave much to be desired.

250 206 >>>The Other McCain is one. His shilling for Cain was way over the top. He got a bit crazy. I had to quit visiting his site 'cause the delusion was too deep. Then, when he dropped out, I checked back and saw he seemed to be jumping on the Santorum clown cart

Because God signaled him to -- yes, he said that. He's said it multiple times now.

I'm not joining this emotional faith-based spasmodic crusade.

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2012 04:08 PM (nj1bB)

That God told him to support Santorum? Are you serious? He ain't smoking cigs anymore then. He's gone right to the crack pipe. I mean, the crap about Cain was bad, "next President," "I stood next to him and I knew he would be the nominee," "you all don't believe me, but I'll be proven right" type crap.

251 Because there's people out there counting on us. People without dick-jokes. People who are searching for the Biblical commandment that tells your wife she must surrender the booty. People who haven't heard enough inappropriate names for the vagina. People who wonder, "Hey, where can I find a link to a picture of a busty Japanese girl in bra and panties squeezing through an really narrow doorway?"

Maybe you can turn your back on those people. I can't do that.

Fucking sunshine patriot.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff


You funny.

252
that nasty witch Loretta Brixey (Sanchez) stole Dornan's seat

253

I have never seen such civility on AoSHQ as on this thread. 

Now we really need a flame war thread to get rid of the fresh flowery scent.

254 No, that's pretty fucking insidious.  Especially when they're charging $200 a pop for what is essentially the same book they've been selling for 10 years, but under 8 different editions.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 09, 2012 04:19 PM (SY2Kh)

 

You want insidious?  Price out the medical textbook shelf.

255 >>>I have never seen such civility on AoSHQ as on this thread.

Eh, you can go fuck yourself, buddy.

256 Because I'm definitely up for some 818.

Well, at least that wasn't a disturbing trip to urban dictionary.

257

Bob Dornan was my guy that year.  Good times...

He should have kept the beard. That would have sealed the nomination for him.

258 I think the best thing for regular people to do is just promote the idea of it is illegal to follow any of the regulations given by the recess appointee.  Just don't follow the regs, its not like OdipO follows the constitution.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 09, 2012 04:18 PM (JYheX)

EXCELLENT.  If the SCOAMT is going to flagrantly break the law, throw it back at him.  "Nothing this appointee says is legally binding.  Why should I listen to him/her/it?  You're just wasting paper and air."

Ridicule and mockery.  Obama can't STAND ridicule and mockery.  If anything will make him crack, it's a constant barrage of people telling him he's silly.  The internet is the perfect place to get such memes started.  I swear the JEF is just one hysterical tantrum away from being run out of office on a rail by his own exasperated Cabinet staff.  I for one am more than happy to help push him over that hysterical edge.  If my Congress critters can't or won't do it, then I'll just have to do what I can.

259

Civility?

No nilla wafers for you!!

260 Thanks for the link, Kort!

261 "I'm not joining this emotional faith-based spasmodic crusade. " If you don't like emotional faith based spasms, stay the hell away from HA comments.

262 I certainly hope the textbook publishers go by way of the dinosaur. The cost of textbooks is obscene.

Posted by: mpfs at January 09, 2012 03:36 PM (iYbLN)

Textbook publishing has become a criminal racket.  Put out a "new" edition every few years where the only things new are a couple of the problem statements and a few lines of text. Then sell the book for $150 - $250.

 

263 The problem with flagrantly breaking the law is that they will send people with guns to take you away. If you resist they will shoot you. If you shoot back they will execute you.

264 256 Except for flat out opposing SOPA (in it's current form) Santorum's answer is not much different than Rep. Paul Ryan's: Posted by: Rocks at January 09, 2012 04:20 PM (Q1lie) Santorum is an evil Big Goverment crazy pants Theocrat, so he MUST support SOPA. He just does, because. Oh, look at that lovely flower over there, and that handsome Rick Perry near it. P-E-R-F-E-C-T-I-O-N.

265

You know what's a cool little industry? The specialized reference book stuff. Every month or so my wife is writing an entry for some Art Dictionary or Architectural Encyclopedia. Takes some time, and the standards/space limitations are ironclad, but it's "crowd-sourcing" that's been around for a long time. Doesn't pay a ton, but it's half a hobby anyway.

266  I have never seen such civility on AoSHQ as on this thread.

Yeah, that's my fault. Sorry.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 09, 2012 04:21 PM (zLeKL)

 

Conceited bastid, ain't ya'? 

267 That reminds me of Richard Feynman's foray into choosing a textbook for the local school board. It essentially was run by scammers who made sure the "right" book was selected, regardless of price. In fact, they tended to pick the most expensive, regardless of overall quality! shocker!

268 MSNBC "suspends" Pat Buchanan. Discuss. Not the Buchanan affair, but the fucking newspeak use of the verb "suspend."

269 OT - Let us please take a moment to thank the TSA for protecting the general public against threats such as the dreaded...cupcake in a jar! 

TSA Defends Banning Cupcake from Airplane. 

270

Well, at least that wasn't a disturbing trip to urban dictionary.

Wholly unecessary. I learned what that was right here.

This place is like going to a biker bar (something I have a great deal of experience with) where everybody's in Mensa.

271 Pretty goddam bad. Probably all the other Families will line up against us. That's all right. These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one.

272 Red State endorses Mittens

273 TSA Defends Banning Cupcake from Airplane.


...like we don't all know they confiscated it for their shift break.

274 No prob, MWR, always happy to pass the link along. I'm thinking about organizing something similar for indie authors.

275

Perry now trailing Buddy Roemer in New Hampshire

Hot Gas Headlines

<sob>

276 So you guys think there's enough time for a Hunstman surge?

277 Just when you think the country is irreversibly divided, Pat Buchanan is there to remind us how everyone, left or right, still hates him.

278 Red State endorses Mittens

Huh?  Did you only read the headline, or are you trying to be sarcastic or something?

279 TSA Defends Banning Cupcake from Airplane. 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 09, 2012 04:29 PM

It would have been offensive to the muslim passengers and might have provoked them into setting off the bombs in their luggage.

We're keeping you safe, you should be THANKING us !!!

280 I was pretty upset about Obama the Tyrant until I saw EoJ say Zooey isn't hot. Now I'm beside myself.

281 Pre-release of Secretary of State Clinton's statement on the Iran death-sentence news. "Go ahead, you limp-dicked goat fuckers. We dare you. Do it on Al Jazeera. We know a bunch of pussies when we see them."

282 where else can one learn the latest news (mostly) or 3 times in a row) or argue over Presidential elections: cry over our lost military loved ones, or our personal traumas.
 cringe,
 laugh over shockingly tawdry comments aimed  at anything from a puppy to personal body parts, while  at  the same time .
 with thoughtful and well thought out arguments on anything from nukes to law to math to vomit.
It's as if this is a beavis & butthead series but with a surprising twist of awesome intelligence lurking under the strange.

283 281 OT - Let us please take a moment to thank the TSA for protecting the general public against threats such as the dreaded...cupcake in a jar! 

TSA Defends Banning Cupcake from Airplane. 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta)


Cupcakes are the creepy clowns of the dessert world.  Ban them!

284 Red State endorses Mittens

^{"in an election in which jobs and Obamacare are the top two issues, the 'inevitable' Republican nominee is a person whose business career consisted in no small part of eliminating jobs, and whose signature legislative achievement is the enactment of state-run health care. Is that about right?}

^{If so, God help us all."}

What does Red State say when they don't endorse you?

285 It's great to cut out the middleman, unless you're the middleman. With the info revolution in full swing, it's probably time for lots of middlemen to find a new line of work.

D.C. is sort of a middleman, too. They stick their f'n hands in my pocket and hand it to their favored constituencies. Can we please cut them out, too?

286 If that's not a ringing endorsement, I don't know what is.

287 Fun story:   Monopoly!  You grew up with free parking being full of free money or nothing but free parking.  Remember that moment later in life you went to play with someone who believed free parking was the opposite of the way you have always understood it?

That's how about 99% of theological arguments sound to me.

288

O/T:  This just in - Nork bears are even grieving over Kim Jong Il's death.

289 Nood about olby

290 >Bob Dornan is my favorite on the list

Mine too.  I met him one time in DC at a Young America's Foundation event when I was in college. He stayed late after the event and hung out with about twenty of us until the wee hours of the morning, drinking and shooting the shit.  That was one of the coolest nights of my life.

291 That's ok Soona, we'll get back to normal next thread up.

292 I live in California. So I'll be writing in Rick Perry for president not matter what happens.

293 .300 Fun story: Monopoly! You grew up with free parking being full of free money or nothing but free parking. Remember that moment later in life you went to play with someone who believed free parking was the opposite of the way you have always understood it? People who put money in free parking are wealth redistributionist fuckwads who make games of monopoly last for over three hours. Yes they deserve to die, and I hope they burn in hell!

294 Yet everyday you come here and slander good people of whom you directly benefit from their old fashionedness.  I find you predictable and with  self awareness and critical thinking skills that leave much to be desired.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 09, 2012 04:22 PM (RfvTE)

---

Where did I slander Latter Day Saints?  Seriously, did you hit your head? 

I thought your point was that the public was not interested in the Reverend Wright stuff, that they were inured to it at this point, but that the LDS recent history with regards to blacks serving in the priesthood would be new and different and scary to them. 

My only point was that it is more difficult for Romney to distance himself from what the media would say about his church than it is for the other candidates like Obama and Santorum, because Romney served as a bishop a only a couple of years after their policy changed.

295 Mine too.  I met him one time in DC at a Young America's Foundation event when I was in college. He stayed late after the event and hung out with about twenty of us until the wee hours of the morning, drinking and shooting the shit.  That was one of the coolest nights of my life.

Posted by: DanInMN at January 09, 2012 04:39 PM (XqeyF)

 

Got to sit across the table from Buzz Aldrin during a lunchbreak once.  For 45 min. there was no god but Buzz.

296 The problem with flagrantly breaking the law is that they will send people with guns to take you away. If you resist they will shoot you. If you shoot back they will execute you.

Unless you live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, in which case they may well re-elect  you.

Frankly, either enough people with enough honor, honesty, and gumption still exist in the United States of America--in which case we may yet salvage a nation worth living in; or that breed's completely outnumbered--in which case America That Was is past redemption.

Either way, it's probably the outcome we deserve.

297 not much an opus Joffen. good luck you will love Free Republic

298 The problem with flagrantly breaking the law is that they will send people with guns to take you away. If you resist they will shoot you. If you shoot back they will execute you.

I wonder if any rules/regulations these illegials come up with can be challenged in court?  Might be worth a try.  Wish I had a law degree.

299 @Y-not, this thread has not grown complicated with multiple statements on different topics.

1. In #193 I was responding in that post as I indicated to "@polynikes"  Whose statement was thus:

123 As soon as the Dems bring up Mormonism it allows the Press and anyone else to bring up Obama's 20 years in the radical black theology church. The Dems don't want that. There will be a whispering campaign that will amount to nothing.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney

2. I have been coming here for most of a year, and in that time you often multiple times in a day (though less recently)  are ranting about Utah and Mormons.

-Maybe you don't realize how often you do it?

In #260 I responded to your #201.

201 >>Posted by: Shiggz at January 09, 2012 04:04 PM (RfvTE)

Obama sat in a church. 

Romney led a congregation. 

That's the difference. 

-You probably had other posts but I was not responding to them.

-I referred to no specific topics the media would point to.

300 #297 Good for RedState except MA doesn't have State run healthcare.

301 @312
Well, Shiggz, that's your impression, but I would point out that ranting (of which you cite no evidence, but whatever) is not slandering. 

If you think that the media is not going to go after the less mainstream aspects of the LDS religion, you are smoking something. 

302 >Got to sit across the table from Buzz Aldrin during a lunchbreak once.  For 45 min. there was no god but Buzz.

Wow!  Buzz Aldrin is one of my top 5 heroes. That would be truly unforgettable.

303 Feel free to look through your own postings here.  Google your own name.. sounds like you might be surprised by what you find.


Actually, I went through carefully pointing out the exact opposite conclusion.

Basic comprehension and not accusing someone of the opposite of what they are saying is the basis of human communication.

304

polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 09, 2012 05:04 PM

And a individual mandate is a conservative principle, yes?

305 Who really thinks that if Romney's Mormon faith is discussed in the media that Rev. Wright will ever see the right of day regarding Obama? Seriously, if you think that you are HIGH.

306

Thanks Jeff B. I guess I was kinda being a drama queen, huh?

I wish I knew how to calm the fuck down about this. I have been literally losing sleep over this. I really am convinced that the Constitution is worthless right now and if Obama wants to, he can ignore even more of the Constitution.
I feel like things are too important to stop, but it's really costing me. So I don't know what to do. Maybe start drinking more.

 

Join the club.  All of us have been watching the slow usurpation of the constitutuion and the assholes that were elected to stop this have done absolutely shit.  Some days you don;t even hear a peep, not even so much as a nasty worded letter.  There are some nights that I really don't sleep well.  I have children and my wife and I wonder what the hell kind of shithole country are we going to leave them. 

Keep your head up high and live your life the exact same way.  Keep your convictions and opinions.  Your one of MILLIONS that feel the same way. 

307

Well, self publishing certainly worked for me.

308 It's called "disintermediation". Try a library Ace [for something other than hobo hunting *smirk*]. There was a NY Times best seller on it.

309 123 As soon as the Dems bring up Mormonism it allows the Press and anyone else to bring up Obama's 20 years in the radical black theology church. The Dems don't want that. There will be a whispering campaign that will amount to nothing. Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney

Here is what I wrote in response.

193 @polynikes

At best I think the Ayers/Wright history will be a small speedbump to the anti-mormon degradation, aren't mormons weird?, OMG lewk at their weird history!11! noise machines the left is going to crank up for the next year+ if Romney is nominated.  From comedy central to "the view" to MSNBC to humanities class to this weeks episode of "the office/simpsons/law and order/ etc..."  Everyone is going to be inundated with it customized to their own personal flavor.

In terms of what will get past that noise machine, I think you vastly overestimate how interested the general population is in the Ayers/Wright Obama history.  The press tried to smother it at the time and managed to save his bacon by not letting it reach critical mass.  Since that time its been at slow simmer for years now and only about half of conservative activists even get worked up about it anymore.  To them Obama now feels like a known quantity, Romney is the new different one they are unsure about.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 09, 2012 04:04 PM (RfvTE)

310 Ref Carolla. I knew he had a kick-ass podcast going but I didn't know it was free! Since it was on ITunes I assumed it was 99 cents a show or something. I went to his site, there's an RSS feed and the last month of his shows popped up in MP3 format. I guess he has ads on the show or something. Neat.

311 Shiggz, you can bite me. Born and raised in Anchorage, including Mountain View and Spenard. There is nothing there that even rises to the level of awful, and I have plenty of friends still there, not to mention family. The creepy part is that AK still has lots of Mormons, and they keep claiming to be Christian (they aren't), and they keep trying to pass themselves off as mainstream (they aren't), and Romney's campaign is going to out them, and they won't like it. Neither will we, if we back his sorry butt.

312 rock bottom, meet ace. ace: Drama Queen still hasn't told me what was wrong with the post apart from his general denial of it, and that it came from a Dem. The video is of his own words. Unedited. Allahpundit: In case you haven’t seen it elsewhere, here’s the outrageous outrage du jour, a Democratic attack so cheap and out-of-context that even lefty Greg Sargent felt obliged to defend Romney from it. The full, entirely unobjectionable quote: “I like being able to fire people who provide services to me. … You know, if someone doesn’t give me a good service, then I want to say, ‘I’m going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.’” Surely, surely, only an especially desperate Democratic hack would stoop to twisting that.

313 My impression is that Joffen's beef was not so much that he cares about Santorum getting slammed, but rather that he'd prefer see more posts about Obama's crimes against the Constitution than posts tearing down fellow Republicans.

I think we were all just so excited about ace's take down of Wiener that we have invested him in our minds with Super Hero powers, and are fully expecting him to single-handedly bring Obama and Holder down.

314 I hate this fucking place. In 326 comments, there are only 18 where the cross posters are calling each other suckers of cock. This demonstrates )spastically( just how far the standards have fallen.

)spastically( )now with backwards parenthesis((. 

And heh, that gives me a cool idea for my nick: Semicolon. It's what you have left after surgery for colon cancer. Six years out and still ok, except for the skidmarks. SKIDMARK!, another candidate for my nic.

Discuss. Or not. I've got to go relieve my semicolon.

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