1

2 moobs!

3 It's Super Zero!

4 Off Topic: Whoops, never mind.

5 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

6 Please,give us a chest thread instead of the chess thread.

7 Suggest we elect a kitten as our next president.  Better photos, better photoshops.  Built-in meme.  That matters in the 21st century.

8 How many Obamas does it take to fuck up a country? Just one.

9 And remember, you can never be off-topic in an open thread.

Are you threatening me.

10 Check this out:
http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article06221201.aspx
the point the author makes is the tired trope that men are afraid of smart women, and talks about this real brainiac who had all these men friends and no one would romance, and it was because she was just so very smart. She's a historical figure, and I had a hunch right away about why men REALLY didn't want to romance her, and looking up her photo, my hunch was right, and I bet you can guess it.

Men will go after any hot woman, smart dumb or in between. What they will not go after is a woman who is ugly, smart dumb or in between. But feminists trot out this crap regularly.

11 Is there mead involved?

12 10 Yep.

13 I find that sucking my husband's dick keeps him involved with me. Is that too traditional?

14

Superman theme!

 

http://tinyurl.com/7z5sbvq

15 Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

16 The proceeds from this post will be donated to the SMOD 2012 campaign.

17 Sorry I am just in a really really randy mood. I apologize if I offended any feminists out there. Morons, naw I can't offend you guys. Moronettes either.

18

Remember when the USSR collapsed? The world didn't know it was going to happen.  It was a shock. We knew they were in some trouble, but not that much trouble.

'''

We have been told for a couple of years that the EU is in a lot of trouble, and may fall apart. Will we be caught by surprise again? The effect on us will be major, how has the govt prepared? Can they prepare? Should the candidates be talking about their plans in the event of a EU collapse? Or should they keep quiet to avoid bringing about a collapse?

''''

It's almost time to go set up for tonight's gig, and this will give me something to think about as I carry equipment.

 

19 Sorry I am just in a really really randy mood. I apologize if I offended any feminists out there. Morons, naw I can't offend you guys. Moronettes either. Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 23, 2012 04:43 PM (noqys) Please, tell us more.

20 Dieu et mon droit!

21 13 Cut.Jib.Newsletter.

22 I suspect "San Antonio Rose" is a "60%er", if you long time internetters know what I mean

23 This thread is brought to you by me. And a grasshopper. Apparently.

24 Needs more bath salts

25 I find that sucking my husband's dick keeps him involved with me. Is that too traditional?

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 23, 2012 04:42 PM (noqys)

'''

Isn't it time you wrote a book?

26 13 That depends, is he asking other women to do the same thing as you?

27 I just want the frickin' EU to go ahead and fail already. I am so tired of waiting for the other shoe to drop as it were. Just have the damn civil unrest and al that stuff okay?

28 Hey all. Beautiful day in NYC (homo parade notwithstanding). Having a little swamp cooler and then steak dinner grilled in the stove. Oh well, apartment living is what it is. As my snide Brit friend used to write on his postcards: "The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful."

29 What is a 60%???

30

 "Just have the damn civil unrest and al that stuff okay?"

;;;;

That's already happening. Next...

31 #winning

32 Must be tons of fun being a German taxpayer.

33 No, no other woman. He seems pretty happy about the whole situation. Naw, can't write a book, I am totally boring. I don't think the civil unrest is that bad yet. I expect much more to come.

34 20 Sorry I am just in a really really randy mood. I apologize if I offended any feminists out there. Morons, naw I can't offend you guys. Moronettes either.
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 23, 2012 04:43 PM (noqys)

Please, tell us more.

Posted by: eman at June 23, 2012 04:44 PM (ejmiE)

 

Go on!!

35 33 Must be tons of fun being a German taxpayer.
Posted by: eman at June 23, 2012 04:49 PM (ejmiE)

Not necessarily.

36 33 Must be tons of fun being a German taxpayer. And remember, Germans are waiting until 67 or later to retire, so that the Greeks can do so at 60. Or younger. And the Fronces, at 62 or so.

37 Penn State says they anticipate being sued being sued by at least 20 kids that they know of who were abused but didn't want to go through the trauma of testifying.

38 Apropos nothing, I saw an Angry Birds shirt today that had a red bird and said Angry Bitch.

39 I don't think the civil unrest is that bad yet. I expect much more to come. Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 23, 2012 04:49 PM (noqys) When you see confirmed reports of pleasant and responsive French waiters, run like hell.

40 It's a meme about how 60% of all the females on the net are really men, especially the ones who get online in forums, comments threads and chat rooms and start talking about sex, because that is really what a guy pretending to be a girl does.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-are-no-girls-on-the-internet

41 Germany is on the brink of owning Europe and this time, they did it without firing a shot. Lol! Electing a Chancellor that looks like a harmless grandmother in advance of total currency collapse was brilliant. Three cheers for the Deutsche Mark! Yay!

42 Barky never had a chest like that, now where is my cheeseburger?

43

Guy in Texas shot an alligator gar with a fishing bow. the line wrapped around his hand when the fish too off and it drug him into the water head first. The guy's dog bit and held his pant cuff and a tug of war ensued. 45 minutes later the guy landed the thing and it bottomed out his 300 pound scale. Being a Texan, he filleted it. The all-tackle record? 302 pounds.

44 >>> the tired trope that men are afraid of smart women, and talks about this real brainiac who had all these men friends and no one would romance, and it was because she was just so very smart. I've never met a man who was afraid of a smart woman. Turned off by an arrogant woman? Maybe. Men are more embarrassed by dumb girlfriends than smart ones.

45 “Many people, both male and female, enjoy the attention paid to female characters. Male players will often log on as female characters and behave suggestively, further encouraging sexual advances. Pavel Curtis has noted that the most promiscuous and sexually aggressive women are usually played by men. If you meet a character named “FabulousHotBabe,” she is almost certainly a he in real life."

46

"The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful."

 

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2012 04:46 PM (MCDCp)

 

 

Nothing like dry Brit wit to cause you to smack 'em over the head.

 

And what the hell is a swamp cooler? You New Yorkers confuse the shit out of me.

47 Men are more embarrassed by dumb girlfriends than smart ones. Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 23, 2012 04:53 PM (A01Wa) True, but below the boob size threshold only.

48

"Naw, can't write a book, I am totally boring."

;;;;

If you could get more women to follow your example, you would no longer be considered boring. Bored (deeply), perhaps, but that's a different story. 

49 If you meet a character named “FabulousHotBabe,” she is almost certainly a he in real life." Posted by: babygiraffes at June 23, 2012 04:54 PM (h0KX Noted for future reference.

50 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday
shows Mitt Romney attracting 48% of the vote, while President Obama
earns 43%. Six percent (6%) prefer some other candidate, and four
percent (4%) are undecided.

---

Ahhhhhhh, fresh Gerg bait.

51 What do we think of the Kahr PM9?

52 Thanks Babyg, for the heads up on the meme. I am 100% female. Sorry to break the mold? Hell I am not sure what to say about that meme. I thought that Gar story was just incredible meremortal!!

53 [i]
Beautiful day in NYC (homo parade notwithstanding). Having a little swamp cooler and then steak dinner grilled in the stove. Oh well, apartment living is what it is.

. . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2012 04:46 PM (MCDCp)

 

 

Walmart sells some dandy little charcoal grills about the size of a large dictionary. Back when I had my own apartment some of my neighbors used them.

54 So I think I just learned a little computer repair trick.  This really nice fairly high-end laptop that came with a one-year parts & labor warranty has worked perfectly since I bought it...just over a year ago.

Now, two and a half weeks after the warranty expired, the fan on the power supply died and this bitch was about to overheat and probably kill the hard drive.  So for a couple days I've been using it for a half hour at a time then turning it off before it overheated.

Today I took a big box fan that I use to cool myself down after working outside in the heat all day and directed it to blow right on the cpu so the breeze blows into the fan vents.  Amazingly my last ditch effort to run this computer before taking it in for service (I've built and fixed a lot of desktop computers but never a laptop) seems to be working!!!  The temp is staying constant and low enough that I don't feel like I have to turn it off.

I think I'll buy myself a drink or three!

55 The most surprising thing about the presdiential polls this year is the low precentage of undecided. A lot of dough per vote is going to get spent.

56 BTW it's 99F in Denver right now

57 The guy's dog bit and held his pant cuff and a tug of war ensued. 45 minutes later the guy landed the thing and it bottomed out his 300 pound scale. Being a Texan, he filleted it. The all-tackle record? 302 pounds. Posted by: Meremortal at June 23, 2012 04:53 PM (jTKU5) His cat was home asleep and dreaming of the dog coming to a bad end.

58
I thought that Gar story was just incredible meremortal!!

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 23, 2012 04:58 PM (noqys)

'''

Yeah, the 40 pounders scare hell out of me.

59 Anyone know anything about cars?  Is there any correlation between the battery going dead and the air conditioning not blowing cold air?  The first time was a coincidence.  But it just happened again and it's only been about 4 months since they replaced the battery and fixed the air.  They didn't find anything wrong with the battery and they can't look at the air on a Saturday so I have to take it in next week.  It's a 2000 Ford Focus and it only has 66K miles on it. 

60 I didn't say it out loud, so no credit for me, but I KNEW this would be a problem. Everyone is focussed on Mexican illegals, but an equally big problem are the radical Muslims over here on student visas. And, by the by, they are often sent over here by their govts to purdue technical degrees, so they're right in the wheelhouse of the "desirables" that some of the dummies on our side want to give extra leeway to. Via @directorblue Excellent News: Would-Be D.C. Suicide Bomber Eligible for Obama DREAM Act, In-State Tuition in the State o... http://t.co/goNIsjjY #tcot

61 Saw the pic of that gar, that was one ugly fish. Should have got it mounted.

62 60% of the stories on the internet about guys catching and filleting giant gars are actually about catching and filleting hoboes.

63 60% ?  That's almost a B+!

64 BTW it's 99F in Denver right now

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 23, 2012 04:59 PM (8sCoq)

''''

Yeah, luckily we have a short-distance load-in for tonight's gig. I'm stealing that Brit's weather remark for use over the mic tonight.

65 If you meet a character named “FabulousHotBabe,”
she is almost certainly a he in real life."


You don't say.

66 We used to get those little hibachi's and put em in the back of our pickup truck for pre softball game grilling. Or post game grilling depending on the time of the game. The team would set up a grill "site" in the empty lot across from the softball field and a good time would be had by all.

67 Soccer is the boring sport on TV. No wonder the europeans love it.

68 0-0

69

51 If you meet a character named “FabulousHotBabe,”
she is almost certainly a he in real life."
Posted by: babygiraffes at June 23, 2012 04:54 PM (h0KX

That is so untrue!!  Excuse me while I scratch my balls.

70 I mean 'most' boring.

71 #71 - chuckle!

72

If you meet a character named “FabulousHotBabe,”

she is almost certainly a he in real life."

;;;;;

I know a guy who got fooled by one of those in New Orleans. Said 'she' was one incredible babe, visually anyway.

73 I think you meant to say "boringest!"

Stupid cons.

74 Then again golf on TV can put you asleep in no time.

75

And remember, you can never be off-topic in an open thread.

If everyone starts commenting about the same topic does the thread cease to be open? And does that then make everyone's comments off-topic?

76 Speaking of feminists and blow jobs (because, going through 60 comments, that's by far the most interesting topic), I think the modern feminists would tell you blow jobs are fine. Except when you do it to please your man. In other words, if you have the right frame of mind, that you CHOOSE to perform oral sex on a man, if and only if YOU enjoy doing it, then nobody can tell you not to. But if you do it to please him? You're being raped. Or something. Honestly, I think feminists are their own punishment. Just enjoy the sex, for pete's sake. You don't have to analyze everything to determine whether or not you're being exploited, because really, if you aren't part of an exclusive, long-term relationship? You probably are. And so what. You're exploiting too.

77

I think I'll buy myself a drink or three!

 

Posted by: NC Ref at June 23, 2012 04:58 PM (/izg2)

 

 

That's pretty clever! I'm the dumbass sort that would take it outside and spray it with the garden hose.

78 Alligator gar are nasty fish. I didn't realize that Lake Corpus Christi had 'em. shudder

79 Bill Maher says Republicans don't care about Mexicans killed in operation Fast and Furious. Ninja, please.

80 Moi? I am not turned off by ze smart womans. Non.

81 But I am not turned on by zem, eether. Ze reflection of me in ze mirror, ah, tres oui.

82 I agree BurtTC. My motto is "sex and food". Feed em and fuck em. If you love and respect a man to feed and make love to him he probably is treating you right - that is to say like a total Goddess. My hubby is a hard working wonderful man, whom I respect and love. Why wouldn't I want to make him happy in bed?? He makes me happy!

83 Is it me, or does that pic of superman-SCOAMF look like Goatse?

84 in NY people would use the little grills before a football game to tailgate. Then the game would start, the coals would still be hot, and they wanted to go in. So. They put the grill under their vehicles. Burning them up during the game. It is such a common occurrence they have signs in the parking lot telling people not to do this. NYers shouldn't BBQ.

85 Bill Maher would have trouble finding his way out of an empty room even with the doors and windows wide open.

86 Hey! The Divas thing in the blue box is gone!

87 If you meet a character named “FabulousHotBabe,” she is almost certainly a he in real life

Not true.

88 IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2012 05:10 PM Damn you! Can't unsee!!!!!!

89 81 Alligator gar are nasty fish. I didn't realize that Lake Corpus Christi had 'em. shudder

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 23, 2012 05:07 PM (noqys)

 

That wasn't very nice to say!  I'm angry and my feelings are hurt.

90 85 - Yep. Why people would choose to allow themselves to get sidetracked by all that feminist mumbo jumbo is beyond me. Just be happy, darnit. What's wrong with that.

91 >>What they will not go after is a woman who is ugly, smart dumb or in between.

Tell me about it. 

Although, judging from what I see at the malls around here, they'll hit dumb and ugly early and often.  They just don't stick around to raise the whelp.

92 91 IllTemperedCur at June 23, 2012 05:10 PM Damn you! Can't unsee!!!!!! Posted by: IdowhatIwant at June 23, 2012 05:11 PM (a4CUi)

93 Well must be moving on. Illegal drug running hoboes to hunt from the back porch.

94 >>76 Then again golf on TV can put you asleep in no time The televised sport that puts me to sleep the most effectively is NHL hockey. I don't know why, because I like hockey, but I find the combination of how the announcers do the play-by-play with the schooshing on the ice soothing. In fact... zzzzzzzzzz

95 be careful SAR, hotter than hell today

96 And what the hell is a swamp cooler? You New Yorkers confuse the shit out of me. Posted by: ErikW at June 23, 2012 04:55 PM (i6yO0) Walmart sellssome dandy little charcoal grills about the size of a large dictionary. Back when I had my own apartment some of my neighbors used them. Posted by: Grey Fox at June 23, 2012 04:58 PM (59MQe) Basically a screwdriver with some lime juice and whatever the hell else was in the fridge. I used to have an Hibachi when I lived in an old tenement with a fire escape. Today, I'm 17 stories up facing a main drag and so Doomberg would nab me quick.

97 Hockey announcers all sound borderline retarded. 

98 If you haven't heard it, listen to the black woman who called in Mark Levin's show yesterday, mark about 32:15 minutes in. Listen to her entire call. She explains how she struggled voting for Obama even in 2008, but did it for (listen to her reason)... It's actually quite moving.

99 between the battery going dead and the air conditioning not blowing cold air?

Possibly,
If your charging system isn't 100% then the extra load of AC compressor clutch plus radiator fans plus interior fan can be draining the battery.  Car batteries will do thousands of starts but very few full discharge cycles before they're done.

Get a Voltmeter, put it on batt should be IIRC 13.6?, start car, should climb to 14.4 and hold it up there even if you turn on everything full blast.

100 61 Anyone know anything about cars? Is there any correlation between the battery going dead and the air conditioning not blowing cold air? Posted by: Jaynie59 at June 23, 2012 05:01 PM (4zKCA) Diagnosing electrical problems in cars has always been a nightmare. I assume they checked for error codes and tested / replaced relevant relays? A 2000 model car has OBD2 diagnostics and probably extra factory stuff. They may have to (if they are competent) have the car for a little while and leave a tester on logging things while it's driven and parked, at least several times over a day or two. It *might* be coincidence but it might also be something the AC is doing wrong causing "abuse of battery" while you're driving. It doesn't sound like the sort of thing that can be answered "over the phone" unless it's a common problem with the Focus. If I were testing it I'd monitor *actual* voltage with a meter while driving with the AC on, to start. I did a quick check and it looks like others have similar problems. Order of culptits: 1) Serpentine belt / idler pulley 2) Alternator 3) AC electronics (relays) 4) Other electrical problem 5) AC compressor clutch

101 >>Basically a screwdriver with some lime juice and whatever the hell else was in the fridge.

Mmmm, Worschestershiresauce.

102 Obama's losing everyone at June 23, 2012 05:15 PM Just started listening about 15 minutes ago. Thanks for the heads up.

103 Quick jump to Levin's audio page: http://tinyurl.com/m5psaq Also, other than the 33 mark I mention above, jump to the 39 minute mark, as well. That is the actual audio of the hispanics being told to hurry up and eat their lunch, then hand in their utensils. First time I heard the actual audio. Still so stunned at this.

104 Listen to her entire call. Posted by: Obama's losing everyone at June 23, 2012 05:15 PM (HOOye) No. I'm doing something else. Seriously, why do people do this? If you're not going to say what you want to say, why hint at it? I hate uncommented videos for the same reason, I'm doing something else, I can't stop to listen to some long thing or watch a video, I'm often on my phone, etc. Think of the hearing impaired, just write it!

105 Did you get your answer on a swamp cooler? It's an evaporative cooler used in dry climates.  It's 103 here in teh high desert and mine isn't working  for shit.

106

Who's up for a Tom Clacy thriller:

Bashir Assad of Syria, a snivelling puppet of Iran Russia and China, is massacring his own people to avoid the fate of Quadaffi and Mubarak.

The US and the West does not much at all in reply because we're too shagged out pitching into Islamic nuthouses that dont want or accept our help. 

Meanwhile, Putin of Russia is sending helicopters and beefing up their Cold War Syrian Med port of Tartus, a strategic nugget I think no Russian leader would ever allow out of his hands. 

Meanwhile, Arab autocrats fearing not just an Iranian bomb but also the same fate as recent dictators, are sending arms and intel to loosely grouped Syrian rebels. Not freedom fighters mind you , but anti-Assad regime people.

Meanwhile Syria shoots down a Turkish F-4. Although both pilots survived ejection, the Turks are hopping-mad, and between you me and the devil, nobody likes a hopping-mad Turk.

Meanwhile, the USA and whats left of its Atlantic alliance sit goofing around in funky sunglasses doing nothing.

Meanwhile China does what it does: sit its big giant dragon ass down in the tall global jungle and watches...you knows its an all-around-you menace, but you only ever see its face and teeth.

In my average-citizen view, Russia and China could probably care less about Assad himself and would be happy to see him deposed in a fake democratic coup that placates western media but leaves the dictator generals in practical control.

Escalation-towards-nightmare scenarios follow as easily as football follows baseball. Bada-beep. Bada boop. Bada Bang.

 

 

107 Is there any correlation between the battery going dead and the air conditioning not blowing cold air?

Other than the switch/fan motor, which needs juice to run, and the electrically activated clutch (when you turn the A/C on) not much connection between them.

Why is the battery dying?  Is it just worn out, bad connections limiting its ability to recharg? or has the alternator failed, or is a belt slipping?

Normally, there are two common failure modes for alternators.  Trashed bearings which are loud, or the a diode in the diode pack goes bad, which is quiet.  The diodes are what convert AC to DC. 

108 Think of the hearing impaired, just write it! Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 23, 2012 05:19 PM (bxiXv) because it's too much to explain listen another time

109 Here's the thing about soccer. It is non-stop action, but nothing ever happens.

110 "I think feminists are their own punishment. Just enjoy the sex, for pete's sake. You don't have to analyze everything to determine whether or not you're being exploited...."

The "Just enjoy sex" part is the hang up.  They don't.  At least, not with men.  So they project.  Feminists can't understand that other women DO enjoy sex.  With men.  Really.

111 109 Did you get your answer on a swamp cooler? It's an evaporative cooler used in dry climates. It's 103 here in teh high desert and mine isn't working for shit. ---- Yeah, they blow. (not in a good way) We had one in the house we rented last year in Utah and it was completely ineffective. And louder than hell. Cheap to operate, I gather, but they don't work.

112

Q:  What did the pirate fisherman catch?

A:  A 300 lb Garrrrrgh!!

113

13I find that sucking my husband's dick keeps him involved with me. Is that too traditional?

 

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 23, 2012 04:42 PM (noqys)

 

---------

 

Nah. ....It's more traditional if you pour mead on it first.

114 112 Here's the thing about soccer. It isnon-stop action, but nothing ever happens. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 23, 2012 05:21 PM (ND7TC) --- hehe, yea, but today, FRANCE lost

115 Ole, are you talking about today's show?

116 That's pretty clever! I'm the dumbass sort that would take it outside and spray it withthe garden hose.



Heh thanks ErikW, I do the same thing when I get over-heated from being out in the sun all day.  Here have one of my beers!  And the cold showers take care of more than one problem for me IYKWIMFML.

117 The diodes are what convert AC to DC.

Rectifier, I dang near voted for her.

118 fkn dumbass sock off

119

Yea- they work (swamp cooler roof mount) up to about 90 degrees unless you buy the expensive ones, then you might as well have a/c/  Guess I'll just have to drink beer to keep cool.

120 hehe, yea, but today, FRANCE lost



Again.  Good thing they're used to getting their ass kicked.  They looked like shit the whole game, never had a serious chance on goal all game. 

121 Anyone talked to Jane D'oh today?  I finally procured my tickets to Savannah and need a recomendation for a hotel.

122 because it's too much to explain listen another time Posted by: Obama's losing everyone at June 23, 2012 05:21 PM (HOOye) Then it can't be that important.

123 And remember, you can never be off-topic in an open thread. Posted by: Open Blogger at 04:28 PM Are you kidding me? We can barely stay on topic on a closed thread.

124 58 BTW it's 99F in Denver right now

************

Over at the NYT the fucktards are debating whether we should stop using air conditioners.

srsly.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7mxobge

 

125 126 hahaha.  Isn't that the truth.

126 The lady was kinda in tears, Merovign.  In a nutshell, she knew Bammy was a shitbird but voted for him to honor her forefathers who were unable to vote and she highly values the fact that they made it possible for her to do so.  She's very anti-Holder, too.  Vis-a-vis (heh) Romney, she said, why are they so upset that he has money?  "I don't want nobody broke in the White House."  She was cute.

127 >>Over at the NYT the fucktards are debating whether we should stop using air conditioners.

They can go first.  And not from their summer home upstate in the mountains or on the beach--from their apartment in the city.

128 Or mayhap a refresh charge of R134a?

129 Terry Garr had nice knockers.

130 130 Ditto.  I often wonder what it was like here 100 years ago when everyone wore long dresses w/men in suits when it's 95-100 degrees outside.  Geez.  I think I would be parked inside with a cold cloth on my forehead from noon to 8 at night.

131 Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2012 05:30 PM (kpCLl) Thank you! I understand, and that's very important to a lot of people (the heritage), but it's also one of the prime reasons why we have intergenerational conflicts. People complain about selfishness but this is one area we could use more. You should *know* history, not be corralled and controlled by it.

132 I grew up in an old Victorian era farmhouse without A/C.  I've been without it for several years now in South Florida and don't miss it.   For over a hundred years people lived in FL without A/C.

133

I used to have an Hibachi when I lived in an old tenement with a fire escape. Today, I'm 17 stories up facing a main drag and so Doomberg would nab me quick.

 

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 23, 2012 05:15 PM (MCDCp)

 

 

Jesus. Why do you like living in hell?

134

61 Anyone know anything about cars? Is there any correlation between the battery going dead and the air conditioning not blowing cold air?

 

Posted by: Jaynie59 at June 23, 2012 05:01 PM (4zKCA)

 

Had the same problem....with one of our older trucks [a '97].....it turned out to be two separate problems:

A bad cable on the battery....was bleading the charge. 

And a slow leak on the freon tube....let the freon leak out.

They were unrelated problems, just happening at the same time.

135 MikeD, good comment - and on cue there's a World War One post above this one

136 Or mayhap a refresh charge of R134a?

The compressor shaft seal is a frequent source of persistent leaks in auto A/C systems. 

137 "The Girl Better Fuck Him like Helen of Troy with Her Ass on Fire!" - Pullo in the episode of Rome I'm watching just now. That's some damn good writing, that there!

138

perp - I have been there and the carribean and never needed a/c. Here in the high desert of the Rocky Mtns at 5000 ft, it's dry and no breeze.  You just move slowly during the day and venture out in the am and early evening. It's kinda funny. Quiet as hell outside right now. About 7:30 tonight everybody will be out watering flowers, bbq'ing, etc. 

 

139 Over at the NYT the fucktards are debating whether we should stop using air conditioners.



I haven't used my A/C since I realized it didn't work and needs to be replaced.  When I bought this place in December we turned it on during the inspection and it blew "cool" air.  Now that "cool" air does nothing to actually drop the temp in the house so I haven't used it all summer...and I love my $50 power bills.  Big box fans rock!!!

Do I get AlGore carbon credits?  probably not....

140

***And a slow leak on the freon tube....let the freon leak out.

 Wheatie - Can you fix that yourself?

 

***The compressor shaft seal is a frequent source of persistent leaks in auto A/C systems.

 

Purp - same question, can I fix that myself?

141

- Pullo in the episode of Rome I'm watching just now.

 

That's some damn good writing, that there!

 

Titus Pullo had the best lines....in that whole series.

Especially the line about the "little button".

142 You know, that's one of the big problems with liberals. THEY are debating whether WE should use our AC. No, THEY can swelter and get heatstroke if they damned well please, *I* will not. (Approvingly notes AC running in the background.)

143 Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noon day sun.

144

Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 23, 2012 05:45

 

Agree. They can go first.  No water, no eletricity, no heat, no running water, no indoor toilet.  Then I'll think about.  (no not really) I like my creature comforts.

145

....Can you fix that yourself?

 

Infidel,

If you can find it yourself.....then, odds are you can fix it yourself.

Finding the problem is usually the hardest part.

 

I'm lucky enough to have a hubby who has some mechanical skills, and he has  a hole-in-the-wall shop that he takes it to, if the problem is beyond his skill level....or doesn't have time to mess with it.

I just watch at a distance.

146 Wheatie - I actually can do stuff like that. I have a schematic that outlines the Yukon ac.  Maybe I'll work on that in the early am.  From what I can tell, it's not buried and should be pretty easy to get to.  thx.

147 Gawd, swamp coolers are the worst. Grew up with them in Arizona. They ain't that great when it's really hot, and they absolutely suck when the Monsoons come in. Might as well have just had a big revolving fan.

148 nood thread.

149

(Approvingly notes AC running in the background.)

 

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 23, 2012 05:45 PM (bxiXv)

 

 

I grew up without A/C.

 

Now I'm an A/C whore/enthusiast.

 

Those cocksuckers will have to pry my A/C from my A/C cooled dead fingers.

150 HH - I have ceiling fans in every room but the kitchen. The run all summer. Only way to survive.

151 Purp - same question, can I fix that myself?

Legally? Not unless you've got an EPA auto A/C service certification and all the refrigerant reclamation equipment to pull the old shit out and not have it vent to the atmosphere. 

As a practical matter? maybe.  It would be VERY NICE to have a vacuum pump so you can evacuate the system to test for leaks and such prior to recharging.  Atmospheric water vapor that gets into the lines plays hell with the system pressures and causes problems with the lubricants that are flowing around in the refrigerant.

A leak detector that senses halogen gases is good to have.  With the vac pump you can pull deep vacuums then wait around and see if they maintain.  If the pressure rises, then its leaking.  Then charge with refrigerant and test again this time for halogen leaks with positive pressure in the system.  If you wanted to be pedantic about it, you could pressurise and test with nitrogen too.  Nitrogen is a smaller molecule than the R134 stuff, so it will leak faster and through smaller holes -- but won't set off a halogen detector.

152

 >>Over at the NYT the fucktards are debating whether we should stop using air conditioners.

Come and take it!

--- Famous Texas saying

153

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 23, 2012 05:55 PM (bvsSB)

 

I'd love to send you a pic of the conversion kit for my old Dodge truck that I paid $350 for.

 

It's two milled aluminum adapters the size of a thumb and fore finger.

154

For any of you who didn't catch "The Five" yesterday, there was a brief part of it that was really remarkable. They had Juan Williams as part of the panel, and they were discussing F&F stuff.

 

At one point, I caught the always-reserved Dana Perino with this look on her face after Juan said some stuff that just screamed out loud, "What the hell is wrong with you!?!" Yeah, it was THAT stupid and ignorant.

 

A little later Juan said something almost as stupid - saying nobody's given any reasons why Holder should be held in contempt (or something like that) - after they had just discussed a plethora of reasons for five minutes. This let another co-host to give almost as extreme a look as what Dana had given him, and then asked, "Do you even watch this show?"

 

One can only surmise that ol' Juan should be applauded every day! It must be a monumental task for him to dress and feed himself, while not forgetting to breathe...

155 Purp.  Thanks.  Fuckers.  I sure miss my '72 chevy 3/4 ton.  =(

156 Yea, converting old R12 auto A/C's to 134 can be costly.  You can't even buy R12 for maintenance purposes anymore.

157 Ceiling fans rock. Got addicted to them when we lived in Houston. But I still need the a/c as well.

158 >>THEY are debating whether WE should use our AC.

Yeah, I really don't care if any of you want to go without.  But I take great exception to anyone who tells me I have to (as long as I'm paying the monthly bill; if I'm not, then the power company gets to have a say).

159 Posted by: Optimizer at June 23, 2012 06:00 PM (As94z) It's not that Juan hasn't been exposed to the facts, he just doesn't care. I'm beginning to suspect that the whole NPR thing was a setup. Did Fox approach him or did he approach Fox? He acts a lot like an internet troll.

160

And of course, I moved to Los Angeles, and had no air conditioning at all. Which is fine, about 95% of the time.

 

Until one day, when it hit 117º. Man, that was bad.

 

Not even sure how many showers I took.

 

Funny thing is, I got up around 3am the next morning. Still too hot to even turn on the lights. Looking out my kitchen window, saw a coyote trotting up the street. Strange...

161

One can only surmise that ol' Juan should be applauded every day! It must be a monumental task for him to dress and feed himself, while not forgetting to breathe...

 

I'm really getting to despise that guy.  The ignorance is just dumbfounding.

162 53 What do we think of the Kahr PM9? Posted by: Jones in CO at June 23, 2012 04:58 PM (8sCoq) We like it.

163

Y-not.  You still in Utah?  Just saw an update on the Saratoga Springs fire.  It's really getting bad.  Same in Colorado.

164 One can only surmise that ol' Juan should be applauded every day! It must be a monumental task for him to dress and feed himself, while not forgetting to breathe...

Posted by: Optimizer at June 23, 2012 06:00 PM (As94z)

He's like a black Biden

165

Liberals seem to want to take us back to the Stone Age.

That giant rock in LA....being lauded as some sort of 'work of art'....is an example of their idiocy.

 

Air conditioning is one of the greatest inventions...ever.

166

***Air conditioning is one of the greatest inventions...ever.

 

As is the washing machine and dish washer.

167

"The ignorance is just dumbfounding."

 

Not to mention the fact that he always looks like a deer caught in the headlights when anyone calls him on his crap. Eyes get real big, then he tries to talk over the other person.

 

That's why I've really given up on Sun. morning talk shows. Way too much me, me, instead of a rational discussion.

168 Biden is at least cheerful most of the time. Williams is a dick 24/7.

169 Have to agree with you HH.  I fear it will only get worse the closer to the election.  I may have to kill the satilite.

170
   So in this vein,is it viable then to heat houses in the winter?

   Shouldn't that also be addressed?

171 Got about 3500 rounds of 7.62 that says my A/C is just fine. I don't count the other stuff....

172 >>Posted by: Infidel at home at June 23, 2012 06:07 PM Yep, still here. Yesterday the entire valley was filled with smoke. We could barely see the Wasatch Mtns and we're living on the bench. The fire is on some other mtns on the other side of Utah Lake. They're having trouble because the wind picked up. Been hot and breezy all day today. One of my friend's daughter (and her family) was evacuated. One good thing: no deaths, one minor injury, and no structures lost yet. Also, the evac figures were wrong. Only 600 houses evac'd, not the couple of thousand they'd said yesterday. They were counting based on county figures of housing lots, not actual units. I'm sad for Mia Love, mayor over there, b/c last night was a fundraiser for her featuring Paul Ryan, but she didn't go. She needs the money.

173

irongrampa - I use a pellet stove and have a forced air gas furnace for back up.  Works for me.  Even when I have to shovel a path to the pellets.

Not sure how you would heat air for something different. Hot water heat seems pretty expensive and solar, well you need sun.  That doesn't work when we have an inversion in the valley.

174

"So in this vein,is it viable then to heat houses in the winter?"

 

Well, let's check out your options. If the heat is supplied by a coal plant, No.

 

Nuclear Power Plant, No.

 

Dam Power plant, Ok.

 

Using wood from the forest, No.

 

I'm sure the Sierra Club will help you in any other assistance.

175 >>Liberals seem to want to take us back to the Stone Age. They hate humanity. I really miss the old style 'secular humanists' who used to be representative of many liberals. The current batch are just as you say intent on returning us to the Stone Age.

176 Y-not, thanks for the update.  Windy here today too.  Sorry to hear about Mia Love.  I'll shoot her a little $.

177

Some flunkie Matthew Miller lying his ass off on Fox defending Holder and his actions.

178

Been watching the series (all 7 seasons on Netflix) of Dog the Bounty Hunter. Its a little boring and repetetive, but had to laugh at one part. As they're driving through a trailer park dog notices that some of the trailers have flags flying out front and says "I hope the guy doesn't have a flag. Where theres a flag, there's a  guy with a gun."

Kind of a street rule I'd never noticed I guess.

179 @ 177

   It appears the only recourse is extinction,then. A neat, commendable solution to an otherwise intractable problem.

180

Someone who looks like me at June 23, 2012 06:27

 

Keeps a lot of the Bible thumpers away to.  Hehe.

181

@177,

No HH....liberals are against hydro-electric Dams too, because they mess with the ecosystems of rivers. 

 

So, liberals would probably say....

We should be heating our homes....with electricity from wind and solar.

Oh, and biodiesel....and unicorn farts.

182 He's like a black Biden

Posted by: Peaches at June 23, 2012 06:11 PM (kpCLl)

Juan is black?  Crap, we had him pegged for a very dark skinned Hispanic.

Lieutenant, mail him back his knife and fork

183 Not necessarily irongrampa.  They are working on permits and plans for a new nuke plant in western Utah.  Just gotta keep Mittens feet to the fire.

184 >>Posted by: Infidel at home at June 23, 2012 06:26 PM Are you in CO? We have friends in Fort Collins. The pix they've been posting on FB are amazing.

185 Anyone else getting tired of hearing about Corey Booker's "heroics."  Gawd it's pathetic.  Maybe he's their 2016 presumtive nominee.  Ack.

186

Posted by: wheatie at June 23, 2012 06:31 PM (0T8H7)

 

Well, I'm only stating that because they already exist.

 

Not sure I'd want to tear down Hoover Dam and see what happens next.

187

"Some flunkie Matthew Miller lying his ass off on Fox defending Holder and his actions."

 

Former Holder Toady seriously asserts F&F was a field operational level initiative.  Had to mute it after that.

188 Y-not.  Yes, only on your side of the Rockies.  Grand Junction.  It's a sleepy little berg this weekend (thank God) because of County Jam.

189 Hey, does anyone here know how to do SQL programming? Is it hard to learn if you are a data-oriented person who learned programming in Fortran (get off my lawn) and some C++? I help my husband out with some stuff at work, but it would be really helpful if I knew SQL.

190 I hate feminists.  Susan Estrich is flapping her pie hole.

191 There is nothing feminine about Susan Estrich.

192 Geez, I'm such a bonehead I don't even know what SQL is.  My initial computer training was in the mid 90's.  guess I shouldn't out my age.

193 Y-not Get Visual SQL Designer, or another visual engine. If you can handle C++, SQL is no problem with visual suite.

194 194.  hahahahahahah.  Thanks, I needed that.

195 Hell, I thought this Estrich chick was Carol Channing for a second there. 

196 198 Pretty close just not as smart or funny as Carol Channing.

197 @196 thanks!

198 Hell, I thought this Estrich chick was Carol Channing for a second there.



I could play Susan Estrich with no makeup!

199 to do SQL programming?

It's pretty simple, repetitive and very picky.  Thinking in DB transactions, closure, rollback, etc.  is different than regular programming.  And the Relational Calculus to do complex queries can make your eyeballs turn inside out.  There's plenty of tools and startup dbs.

200 @ 186

    I have zero problem with nuclear.  Or coal.  Or oil.

     Solar and wind don't scale well,never mind the reliability problems.   They can help,as an adjunct, to an individual home,but that's about it.

201 I hate wind power. We have some around here and they're ugly as heck and rarely turning. I think someone will figure out a way to make solar work someday, especially as more bioinspired engineering is done. But wind seems like a dumb idea to me.

202 The doofuses running the data systems at my husband's office have been bullshitting him for almost two years ever since he arrived. Now they're bitching when end users run their own queries. They're putting themselves on the train to pink slips. Morons.

203

 

Didn't Susan Estrich work for Dukakis? ....Is she the one who thought that tank ad was a good idea?

 

And Y-not is right....nothing feminine about Susan Estrich.

I think she's really a toad of some sort, with a wig.

204

Men hate screeching harpy's. Doesn't matter if there dumb, smart, inbetween.

ESPN's ball sucking of LeBron is currently on SportsCenter. Didn't they learn about putting a spoiled man-child on a pedestal with Tiger Woods?

I love watching golf. I play golf a lot though. NASCAR puts me to sleep quickly.

205

Didn't Susan Estrich work for Dukakis?

 

Well if that is true, it explains a lot.  Seems to me she is the same sort of dolt at baba striesand. (sp?)

206 Estrich sounds like 35 years of Pall Mall cigarettes and warm bourbon. I can't imagine how she smells.

207 Goody! The chess thread is up! /s

208

#56

Put a cold one behind the fan.

209

Chess.  Played when I was a kid.  Would rather play cribbage or backgammon these days.  Not sure what that says about me.

210

 

I like the 'idea' of wind and solar....and I think we should continue to explore the viability of them.

But the technology so far, isn't there yet.

 

The newer Helix designs in wind generators.....seem to have promise.

Way more than these old antiquated prop-swinger designs that are being forced on us.

Because GE has heavily invested in the old prop-swingers, that is a big reason why those have proliferated.

 

The Helix designs are mostly vertical.

And they don't generate the vibrations that cause the destruction to the whole mechanism.

They are multi-directional, and can accept wind from any direction.

So they don't explode in severe cross-winds.

And since they are seen as a 'solid' by birds....they don't kill eagles, or other birds....the birds fly around them.  

211 This is excellent: threebeerslater.blogspot.com/2012/06/thank-president-obama-for-his-trust-and.html

212

Posted by: irongrampa at June 23, 2012 06:43 PM (SAMxH)

 

Funny thing that. Ever notice that water is THE main supply of power? If not a dam to run the water by the generators to power them, then it takes a coal/or nuc Plant to heat the water to run the generators.

 

But it's still water.

 

Wind may have worked for the Dutch to drain the water out of their re-captured land, and it might work in wells, but no, it cannot supply energy on any kind of large scale.

213

wheatie at June 23, 2012 06:56 PM

 

That's interesting.  Didn't know about the Helix.  Sounds like it would be great if you lived in a windy area. Someday solar may be viable.  Not yet.  Until then we need to utilize oil/natural gas/coal.  And stop wasting tax payer money on the eco-friendly shit.

214

Infidel,

Just do a search on 'Helix wind generator'....and you will see what I'm talking about.

There are some small companies out there already, that are making them...here in the US. 

 

I think that there are some in Europe, too....even some rather big Helix-style generators, already in use.

215

One exception: If Chuck Norris is in an open thread, everyone else is off topic.

216

Y-not at June 23, 2012 06:57 PM

 

That is funny.  I remember a trip Dad and I were on.  We were in first class and they had plastic knifes and real forks.  Really?  You think I can't do some damage with a fork if I wanted to.  It just makes no sense.

217 Thanks Wheatie.  Beenlooking for a generator, but this is not normally a windy area. I'll check it out.

218

 

Linky in my sig....to one of the Helix wind sites.

219 Funneh... READ the caption FIRST, THEN look at the picture http://preview.tinyurl.com/7ue5ty8

220 @219 I killed the President of Paraguay with one.

221 Y-not.  says content unavailable.

222 Me too...

223 Try this: http://funstoo.blogspot.com/2011/06/if-you-cant-find-book-you-want-youre.html

224

Linky in my sig....to one of the Helix wind sites.

 

Thanks Wheatie.  I bookmarked that site.  I'll read the entire this when it's not Sat. nite with a few beers and dinner still to cook.  From what I could acertain it may be viable here.

225 Maybe the link was wind powered...

226 Sorry about the grammer.  Ugh.

227

Y-not....same for me, said was 'unavailable'.

 

Infidel....another link in my sig...for small helix wind generator, this is one that they say...'doesn't require a lot of wind'....can mount on a post, or on roof.

228 They are making it, AC more expensive...EPA rules doubled the price of R-22 this year...It seems that it wasn't being phased out fast enough. 

229

There are also a lot of videos on Youtube....showing how you can make your own helix-type wind generator.

If you're a tinkerer....this could be an option.

230 That's funny Y-not.  I signed up for goodreads dot com today.  Not sure, but little infidel likes it.

231 Guys pretending to be women on here such as Rose just make me roll my eyes.

232 Niece on standy-by evacuation because of fire west of CO Springs. This whole state is gonna burn down.

233 Sorry to hear that, Ronster. Kinda worried about our area. We aren't threatened by the Saratoga Springs "Dump Fire," but we're up against the bench, much of which is covered with dry brush and grass. And, judging from the moronic behavior of our neighbors last year (when UT loosened the laws on aerial fireworks), I have little faith in them using common sense this year. Provo has put a bunch of regs in place b/c of the red alert conditions, but our town (Orem) has not. And we're going to be away July 4th. I'll set our sprinklers to run a lot when we're away, but otherwise, we'll just have to pray.

234 Martin Blank sock off

235 Y-not, guess it's the same where you are, but this is the hottest, windiest, driest June Iv'e seen in many years. Some of my 30 year old spruce have died along with many bushes.

236 @238 Wow, sorry about the trees. Yeah, we had a dry winter and it seems like a dry spring. Still getting used to the climate here, but that's what the natives say. I'm watching my trees. They're one of the reasons we bought this house.

237 Good luck Y-not.  Just heard we are under irrigation water rationing now.  Guess I'll be getting up at 4am to water now. 

238 Where are you Ronster?

239 I'm on well water with and old pump and marginal output from the well. I couldn't keep up if I wanted to. I just watch stuff die and shake my head. I don't know why I didn't leave this desert long ago, however, it didn't use to be this bad. In fact pine trees would come up voluntarily from seed.

240 What part of the desert?  The SW is nothing but desert.

241 240 Good luck Y-not. Just heard we are under irrigation water rationing now. --- I hate water restrictions. We had to do that in California. So far we haven't hit that. IIRC, last year our reservoirs were beyond capacity. Not sure what the dry winter did to them. I will let my grass die if I have to (I want to xeriscape some day anyway), but we have 11 really big trees in our yard that I wouldn't want to lose: 6 aspens (very big ones), 2 Australian pines, 2 firs, and 1 cut-leaf birch.

242 Infidel, I'm about 25 miles East of Colorado Springs. Out on the prairie. I built this place myself and planted every tree and bush. Probably well over a hundred. My 5 acres was nothing but pasture when I started. It's hard to watch things go to hell, but I can only do so much with what I have.

243 Infidel, I call it a desert. It really isn't. There are no sand dunes. YET.

244

Y-not.  Me too.  Just read that we tied the temp for this day om 1971.  Colo river at 8 cfs instead of 14 cfs for this time of year.

 

Ronster - sorry to hear about that. It really sucks to see all that work be ravaged by Mother Nature.  I am just looking forward to sunset so I can go water.  Hopefully I can salvage my canning veggies.

245

There are no sand dunes. YET.

 

hahaha. Careful what you wish for. 

 

/s

246 Y-not, if you have Aspen, then you need to water them quite a bit. Or hope they get some winter moisture, or both. They only grow natuarlly in mountain valleys or places with above average moisture in the mountains.

247 Infidel, what canning veggies are you growing?

248 Green beans, tomatoes, with enough to make salsa, pickles, jams, guess that's not really veggies.  I make my own bread and have been stocking up on staples and ammo.  Justa cya.

249 Woo-hoo!!!  Just won $10 on a $1 lottery scratch-off.  That I paid for with ten dimes.  Cheers!

250 When I was younger, I loved to garden. One year we had a bumper crop of tomatoes. Put up about 100 quarts of tomatoe juice. I was always trying to see how many different veggies I could grow in my garden.

251 Nice NC.

252 NC Ref. Don't spend it all in one place.

253 Good evening 'rons. I'm going to water a little bit of lawn.

254 100 qts of tomatoe juice?  Holy cow.  I can't imagine how many plants and time that must have taken.  I also grow peppers, garlic, basil, cilantro, chives and rosemary.  That doesn't count the flowers or the droppings I am going to return to the neighbors.

255 Infidel, about three 40 foot long rows. I told you it was a bumper crop. A few years later it was difficult to get the plants to survive the blight.

256 NC Ref. Don't spend it all in one place.



But I will.  In my gas tank.  Should get me about 75 miles closer to my next paycheck.  FU Obama and the Sierra Club.

Fortunately I have one more $1 scratch off to play tonight.  Another cheap beer should help her get in the mood to pay off.

257 What do you mean by droppings?

258 Yea, the f'ckn blight. Ugh.  Havin a hard time this year with consistant watering.  splits, but no bottom end rot or blight yet. Probably too hot.  Still too hot to water.  100 degrees.

259 NC Ref, shame on you.

260 260 - The neighbors cat. flowers, garden, they called the cops on me last month for spraying the cat with water as it jumped my fence.  Just returning their property.

261 NC Ref, shame on you.



Ok you're right, my bad.  You should send a M'ette or two over here to spank me.  Or something like that.

262 82 Bill Maher says Republicans don't care about Mexicans killed in operation Fast and Furious.

Ninja, please.

Posted by: eman at June 23, 2012 05:07 PM (ejmiE)

What Maher doesn't say is that HE doesn't give a fuck about the Mexicans OR the Border Patrol agents killed in F&F.

263

NC what kind of cheap beer?  lol. 

 

We need some of the rain from the southeast.

264 263. Gotcha. I put a cattle fence charger wire along the top of my garden fence to keep my own cats out. Never seen any dead cats and didn't have to fix cat damage in the garden.

265 MrCarniac - The truth hurts.

266 267. Interesting.  Have a trap, just don't have the heart to set it.  I figure if I "return" the droppings they will get the hint.

267 NC Ref, I don't have that kind of influence over the 'ettes. If I did, I would use it for myself.

268 Weirdest thing today. I got a fundraising letter from Mittens today that had a bumper sticker in it. Thought, WTF, and decided to put it on the hooptie. MrsCaniac and I head out to lunch and errands, at almost every stoplight a car next to us rolls down their window and gives us the thumbs up and tells us that we need to get rid of the JEF. Never in 25 years of putting political bumper stickers have I ever seen this. Plus everyone wanted to know where I got it and when I told them, they said they were going home to see if they got one.

269 Icehouse.  Not my first or even third choice for flavor but I do get two beers for the price of one.  Plus it's a Miller product so I'm ok with that.  Summer is my slow work period and I'm trying to make those saved nickels and dimes last till fall.  Well, mid-August anyways.

Mr. Caniac what do you think about Karmanos' trade for a second Stahl brother?  I'm excited about it!

270 MrCaniac - Sweet.  Do you live in a libtard area? I need that sticker. Been kinda waiting for the VP pick before I get a bumper sticker.

271 NCRef, holy shit, I had no idea that had happened. The Mrs and I have been running around all day. It's a great deal though, since Brind'amour retired, they have missed a dominant face off man and defensive centerman. You cannot have too many quality centermen.

272 MrCaniac logprof clued me into that deal.  Really looking forward to next season.  Hopefully I'll have some extra cash lying around that I can blow on tickets.

273 Infidel.

It's about 50-50. The city of Roanoke is about 60-40 Dem, the surrounding counties about 55-45 GOP. McCain the valley by a slim margin receving the same number of votes that Bush did 4 years earlier while Obama got about 10K more votes than Kerry did 4 years earlier. This was one of those places that got some Obama fever 4 years ago.

274 Thanks to DaveA, merovign, Barak Obama, and wheatie for your answers about my Ford Focus problem.  I moved to Florida about a year ago and had the AC fixed in MA before I moved.  I took it to a local place that specializes in car AC and they fixed it for about $400.  They did dye test or something that took a couple of days and found leaks in a couple of places and refilled the coolant or something.  When the battery died a few months ago here in Florida it was not a surprise.  Believe it or not it was the original battery (not bad for 11 years).  When I picked it up and the AC wasn't blowing cold I didn't think much of it.  I drove the thing for years in Massachusetts with no AC but down here you really can't drive without it.  So I took it back to the Ford dealer and had them fix it right.  The total bill was about $900.  It was worth it to me because even though it's an old car, it's in good condition and has low mileage for it's age.  Plus, I don't have the money for a new car.  Anyway, when it happened again yesterday with a brand new battery and a "fixed" AC system I just can't help thinking the two are connected somehow.  The guy told me there was nothing wrong with the battery and I must have left a door open or something.  I can't prove I didn't.  Anyway, I'll take it in next week and have them fix the air again.  Hopefully it's still under warranty from the work they did on it.  Thanks