May 12, 2012
— Open Blogger Good evening fellow chess nerds. Here it is once again, the Saturday Nite AoSHQ Chess Thread.
(Applause)
More on the Reti position
Last week, I posted a link to a video by Igor and Gleb wherein they talked about the famous study by Reti. This sparked some discussion in the comments, particularly this:
50 Igor and Gleb are wrong about the optical delusion. White wins by
making G3 its first move, then running with the pawn.Try it. Only take
the black pawn if it tries to advance. Black king can't catch the white
pawn.Posted by: Alec Rawls at May 05, 2012 08:55 PM (kTTUz)
Alec claims he has found a cook in Reti's study. In a subsequent comment, he clarified his remarks further: 'I'm assuming that black moves first and goes to b2, as in the video. THEN white makes g3 its first move.'
So let's take a look.
Igor and Gleb confused things a bit by reversing the colors of the original study. I'm not sure why they thought that was necessary, but I am going to confuse things even more by reversing their reversal:

This is how the original study appeared. The White King starts out on h8 and the idea is for White to centralize by marching down along the diagonal and from the central squares, the King is in a position to either run down the fleeing pawn or to support his own pawn.
However, Alec says no, this falls short, Black can win by first moving his King to b6 and then running the pawn. White does not have time to catch it. But isn't this idea what Igor and Gleb ran through in the second part of their video? Let's see how this works out:
1. Kg7 Kb6
2. Kf6 h4
This is, I think, the position that Alec was looking at when he determined that White was busted. Of course, if 2... Kxc6, then 3. Kg5, the pawn can't escape, and it's a draw. So
3. Ke5
Now Alec says Black should advance the pawn. But, as we will see, White can neutralize this.
3........h3
4. Kd6 h2
5. c7 h1=Q
6. c8=Q
So there you are. Both sides promote their pawns simultaneously, and Black has no tactical trick up his sleeve to force a quick win. The position is drawn.
Ke5 is the key move for White. White's King has to stay centralized until Black chooses to commit himself to either pushing the pawn or capturing the White pawn.
Game of the Week
This week's famous chess game (submitted by moron miamibeatfsu) is Polugaevsky v Nezhmetdinov, 1958. Black skillfully pries the White King out from his hidey hole and chases him down to the opposite edge of the board. A delightful queen sac seals White's fate.
You can play through it yourself here
Chess Books That Should Be Updated (1st in a series)
Many chess books have been written over the years, and it's amazing how well many of them still hold up decade after decade, and can be read and studied profitably today. Of course, it would help these books tremendously if the move notation was updated, too, rather than just reprinted. Some of the old classic chess books have been updated in just this fashion, but others, regrettably have not. I will be posting an entry from my personal "should be updated to algebraic" list each week until I run out.
Let's start with Bronstein's classic collection 200 Open Games. I've always liked this book. Bronstein is whimsical, funny, and yet informative. His writing style makes me wish I had known him.
You morons are encouraged to submit your candidates for the "should be updated" list as I'm sure there are classics I've overlooked.
'Annotate like a moron' contest
This may or may not work, depending on the response I get. What I'd like is for you to pick one your own games, or a classic game, and annotate if in the finest moron style you can manage. I will post the funniest ones, or, if I only get a few responses, I may post them all.
(I have a feeling this is going to bomb, but we'll see.)
Thanks to those of you who have sent me tips for this thread. Tips may be sent to me at
OregonMuse
and then the at sign
followed by yahoo
and then dot
com
Posted by: Open Blogger at
01:46 PM
| Comments (39)
Post contains 743 words, total size 5 kb.
Posted by: Toaster at May 12, 2012 02:07 PM (sJKFk)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 12, 2012 02:07 PM (5H1lG)
Posted by: ArchieB at May 12, 2012 02:32 PM (R/Q+o)
Awesome, I get to be the subject of a post on my very favorite moron blog (my home page actually). Now I can happily lose any number of chess games.
Which reminds me of a game my brother and I made up when we were kids: who could lose all their pieces first? I'm sure we weren't the first to try this, but it's actually a pretty fun game. The basic rule is, if the other player CAN take one of your pieces, he HAS to take one of your pieces, always moving according to the usual rules.
Compared to normal Chess, this "backwards Chess" plays very fast, and at times it can actually be as tricky as frontwards chess. You're trying to lead your opponent around the board destroying your pieces. It's kind of like a cross between Chess and pool, where once your opponent gets off the leash, he gets to lead you around as you each try to run the table, sinking one of your pieces after another.
Good for kids and impatient adults. We started doing it when we were old enough to be able to play a serious game of chess but too competitive with each other to be able to play fast, so it was a good way for us to be able to play a quick game. If you've got a moron handy, give it a try!
Posted by: Alec Rawls at May 12, 2012 02:35 PM (kTTUz)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 12, 2012 02:49 PM (5H1lG)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 12, 2012 03:23 PM (5H1lG)
Posted by: GolfBoy at May 12, 2012 03:46 PM (M0ftf)
Posted by: rickl at May 12, 2012 03:53 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: rickl at May 12, 2012 04:22 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Paul Morphy at May 12, 2012 05:28 PM (cYMja)
Posted by: Paul Morphy at May 12, 2012 05:46 PM (cYMja)
Posted by: Paul Morphy at May 12, 2012 05:49 PM (cYMja)
Posted by: Clemenza at May 12, 2012 05:53 PM (YlSwz)
Posted by: Milesdei at May 12, 2012 05:57 PM (d3mlu)
Posted by: Paul Morphy at May 12, 2012 06:13 PM (cYMja)
Posted by: steevy at May 12, 2012 06:35 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: Pastafarian at May 12, 2012 06:36 PM (KC3A2)
Posted by: Pastafarian at May 12, 2012 06:46 PM (KC3A2)
Because the notation is ambiguous. Each square has two designations, always. Also, it is easier, in my opinion, to slip into a different kind of ambiguity where the move is, say, 10. B-R4, only each bishop has can go to a R-4 and you've got to figure out which one is meant. This is a real problem with some of the older books. I am working though Ret's Masters of the Chessboard and this ambiguity comes up quite a bit. Perhaps the editors thought the flow of the game made the choice obvious, but to not a patzer like me!
I prefer it.
So did Bobby Fischer, so you're in good company. I grew up on the old style, was forced to switch to algebraic to keep up with the times, and now I prefer it.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 12, 2012 07:26 PM (fPBIw)
Posted by: rickl at May 12, 2012 07:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: rickl at May 12, 2012 07:28 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Whores, Hermaphrodites, and Lickspittles at May 12, 2012 07:42 PM (cYMja)
Posted by: waelse1 at May 12, 2012 08:48 PM (y4+t+)
Don't blame algebraic notation for the video commentator's mistakes in a hastily put-together free analysis of one of the most famous king hunt's of all time.
Secondly, algebraic is one of the few actual, useful, truly universal languages -- you can analyze a game with anyone in the world with it. Descriptive is only for English speakers. Chess Informant [Informator] first published in Yugoslavia [remember them?] around 1969 was algebraic. And everyone understood it.
Another who started with the old, switched to the new, and likes it way better.
Posted by: horn at May 12, 2012 09:28 PM (Pxhwp)
OM, if that happens again, just put it in draft for about 20 minutes and re-post on top with the new time.
Posted by: rdbrewer at May 12, 2012 09:38 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: rdbrewer at May 12, 2012 09:39 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: waelse1 at May 12, 2012 09:50 PM (y4+t+)
Posted by: rickl at May 13, 2012 03:25 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Pastafarian at May 13, 2012 03:24 PM (KC3A2)
Posted by: Pastafarian at May 13, 2012 03:36 PM (KC3A2)
Hide Comments | Add Comment | Refresh | Top
64 queries taking 0.2224 seconds, 167 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.








Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at May 12, 2012 01:52 PM (sw9Gv)