April 14, 2012

Sat. Nite Chess Thread 4-14-2012 [OregonMuse]
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Good evening, all ye chess nerds. Welcome once again to the Saturday Nite AoSHQ Chess Thread

This week's famous chess game, sent to me by a moron whose name I forget and I'm too lazy to look up, is Edward Lasker vs. George Alan Thomas, London, 1912

Here is the game score:

1. d4 e6 2. Nf3 f5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. Bxf6 Bxf6 6. e4 fxe4 7. Nxe4 b6 8. Ne5 O-O 9. Bd3 Bb7 10. Qh5 Qe7 11. Qxh7+ Kxh7 12. Nxf6+ Kh6 13. Neg4+ Kg5 14. h4+ Kf4 15. g3+ Kf3 16. Be2+ Kg2 17. Rh2+ Kg1 18. Kd2# 1-0

Non-chess players usually think that what makes chess grandmasters so superior to the rest of us is that they can see some ridiculous number of moves ahead (like 15-20), while we lesser mortals simply can't. But I don't think this is the case. When the position is real complicated, I don't think grandmasters can see that far ahead (of course what they see, compared to lesser players, is the more important question). But the difference is more apparent when the moves are forced and there are few, if any, variations to worry about. That's when the long distance vision kicks in. Like this game here. After Black's 10th move, it's pretty much a forced mate in 8, and I'd guess Lasker worked out the whole thing in advance. Which is truly impressive.

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Oh, and one more thing, a question to ponder this evening, who do you think is the greatest chess player never to be world champion? Who wuz robbed? How about

3. Harry Nelson Pilsbury
2. Reuben Fine
1. Paul Keres

These are my candidates. Who are yours?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 02:47 PM | Comments (211)
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1 How many chess players of yore would be considered to be suffering from Asperger's syndrome today?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 14, 2012 03:27 PM (P5Sdg)

2 Fascinating.

Posted by: Mr. Spock at April 14, 2012 03:28 PM (QKKT0)

3 I was always a checkers man myself.

Posted by: Barney Fife at April 14, 2012 03:29 PM (QKKT0)

4 Finally, a chess thread!

Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2012 03:31 PM (q177U)

5 Is the use of a longbow permissible in a chess match?

Posted by: Henry V at April 14, 2012 03:31 PM (QKKT0)

6 White's Queen never worked a day in her life.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 03:33 PM (gdOVB)

7 Here's how you win at chess--the Sondergard Reply:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7C3tvRv7hQ


Posted by: boris morris at April 14, 2012 03:35 PM (HFim5)

8

Awesome.  These chess threads have re-ignited my passion for playing.  I joined Chess dot com, and my son and I are playing fairly regularly.

 

 

God, I'm horrible.

Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2012 03:37 PM (I2LwF)

9 Black's Queen was a bit wild in college, but settled down after tying the knot.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 03:37 PM (gdOVB)

10 And it only took 40 minutes for a first comment.

That's an awful lot of time off the time clock. I hope there's enough time left to finish the thread.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 14, 2012 03:38 PM (HFim5)

11 Chess. Yum. http://tinyurl.com/6sp24af

Posted by: Fit for a queen at April 14, 2012 03:39 PM (HOOye)

12 8 Here's how you win at chess--the Sondergard Reply:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7C3tvRv7hQ


---------

Friend of mine had a comic strip on his refrigerator: "Obscure chess moves: King's pawn to Phoenix, Arizona".

Posted by: Anachronda at April 14, 2012 03:41 PM (g1Lui)

13
I'm occupying the rook.  On behalf of the pawns of course.

Posted by: Wodeshed at April 14, 2012 03:41 PM (UuLBC)

14 NERDS!!

Posted by: Ogre at April 14, 2012 03:41 PM (MMC8r)

15
Unlike this topic, the movie Searching for Bobby Fischer was actually quite moving.

Posted by: Wodeshed at April 14, 2012 03:43 PM (UuLBC)

16 What color are the Hispanic squares?

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 03:43 PM (gdOVB)

17

I don't know about "robbed", but your three also-rans are a good list. Fine's chances were ruined by World War 2 and then he retired to become a psychologist. Keres should have been champ, but the Soviets pressured him to lose at the right moments (and at one point almost had him killed) because he played in a few Nazi tournaments during the war. Pilsbury had a heck of a chance to be champ but just died young.

Also included, in my opinion, should beVictor Korchnoi, David Bronstein, Carl Schlechter. Korchnoi lost twice in bids against Karpov in the late-70s and early-80s. Bronstein drew his match against world champion Botvinnik in the 50s. Schlecter had his match against Emmanuel Lasker won by simply drawing the last game. But instead, he played for a win and lost. In the modern era, we might have to include Veselin Topalov, who has two unsuccessful bids to his credit and has been in the top 10 for around 15 years now.

And it's too soon to be using the word 'never' regarding young guns like Magnus Carlsen and Levon Aronian.

Posted by: RC Speck at April 14, 2012 03:45 PM (qkrBd)

18 There's nothing more fun than watching a youtube video of two guys playing chess.

Posted by: Cicero at April 14, 2012 03:46 PM (QKKT0)

19 Mongo only pawn in game of Life.

Posted by: Mongo at April 14, 2012 03:46 PM (MMC8r)

20 I was robbed.  Damn you, Bergman!

Posted by: Death at April 14, 2012 03:47 PM (QKKT0)

21 Sat night chess thread....?

Where the fuck am I?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 14, 2012 03:47 PM (1j7lr)

22 Check out the little girls scowl. Check out the monkey's stance. http://tinyurl.com/82wteu7

Posted by: I have a red barrel... at April 14, 2012 03:48 PM (HOOye)

23 Always bet on black.

Posted by: The Wesley Snipes Gambit at April 14, 2012 03:48 PM (MMC8r)

24

To my Oriental roommate from college...if you're reading here...I've been practicing and when the time comes, I will break out the board...and I will annihilate you.

 

O/T -- the Secret Service scandal is a precursor to a coup...much as you would undermine the King's position by capturing his guard. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 14, 2012 03:48 PM (WNDzR)

25 Televised Lingerie Chess - yeah, I'd watch.

Posted by: Cicero at April 14, 2012 03:49 PM (QKKT0)

26 Knight jumps Queen!

Posted by: His Majesty at April 14, 2012 03:49 PM (MMC8r)

27 Where the fuck am I?

A chick!  Please, come in, sit down...

Posted by: Death at April 14, 2012 03:50 PM (QKKT0)

28 I shoulda just fucked her.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 14, 2012 03:50 PM (MMC8r)

29 O/T -- the Secret Service scandal is a precursor to a coup...much as you would undermine the King's position by capturing his guard. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 14, 2012 07:48 PM (WNDzR) It does seem like a disturbance in the Force.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 03:51 PM (gdOVB)

30 One of Black's bishop's lied about graduating from Harvard. But which one?

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 03:52 PM (gdOVB)

31 Best Chess Game ever, National Lampoons version of battle chess.

Too bad they never made a more modern Windows version.

Posted by: Vic at April 14, 2012 03:53 PM (YdQQY)

32 In theory, Black should always win.

Posted by: Critical Chess Theory at April 14, 2012 03:53 PM (QKKT0)

33 What color are the Hispanic squares?
It depends on whether it's pre- or post-Photoshopping.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 14, 2012 03:54 PM (HFim5)

34 Awesome. These chess threads have re-ignited my passion for playing.

 

Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2012 07:37 PM (I2LwF)

 

The more of these I see makes me want to get back into it too.  I'm not all that great (probably about a 1600 USCF rating), but I had a lot of fun when I played a lot. 

 

Not sure why I let it go now that I think about it.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 14, 2012 03:55 PM (isP0N)

35 Reading this thread I realize that I'm too cool for the weird kids, and too weird for the cool kids.

Just gonna back away slowly...

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at April 14, 2012 03:57 PM (uLf/1)

36 What's also cool about the game is that until the last 2-3 moves, Thomas had no real reason to resign. Because if white played the attack with any inaccuracies, black's king would have escaped and his overwhelming material advantage most likely would have won the day.

Posted by: RC Speck at April 14, 2012 03:57 PM (qkrBd)

37 Ironically, when the King is half-black and half-white, everybody loses.

Posted by: nickless at April 14, 2012 03:59 PM (MMC8r)

38 If you want to drive your opponent crazy, place your pieces off center in their squares.

Posted by: schizoid at April 14, 2012 03:59 PM (yeUgA)

39 These are my candidates. Who are yours?

I still like Perry . . .  


Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 04:00 PM (w407e)

40 27 Televised Lingerie Chess - yeah, I'd watch. Posted by: Cicero at April 14, 2012 07:49 PM (QKKT0) Two potbellied balding Russin guys sitting down to play chess in ladies lingerie, showing off the brozilians? I think I'll pass. Wipe. And flush.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:00 PM (niZvt)

41 Bronstein drew his match against world champion Botvinnik in the 50s

He hinted around later on that he was pressured to take a dive because the commissars of chess, or whoever, back in Moscow favored a Botvinnik victory. Don't know if that's true, and I'm basing it only on one cryptic remarke he made to Fischer.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2012 04:01 PM (xm1A1)

42

Sat night chess thread....?



Where the fuck am I?

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 14, 2012 07:47 PM (1j7lr)

 

What, because hanging out on a political blog on a Saturday night is usually cool?

 

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 14, 2012 04:02 PM (isP0N)

43 Two potbellied balding Russin guys sitting down to play chess in ladies lingerie, showing off the brozilians?

I think I'll pass. Wipe. And flush.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 08:00 PM (niZvt)


You need to wait for another post where Ace waxes poetic about his lower GI issues.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 14, 2012 04:02 PM (SsG4J)

44 41 These are my candidates. Who are yours? I still like Perry . . . Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 08:00 PM (w407e) Is he going to shoot a bishop?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:03 PM (niZvt)

45 Chess?  I thought this was a smart military blog?  Seriously though, It's nice to get away from politics for a bit.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at April 14, 2012 04:03 PM (D8eDU)

46 Chess pieces kept at 150 degrees C who liven it up.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 04:03 PM (YrBvI)

47 Catch 'Endgame' on Hulu. Big fun. Lots of chess.

Posted by: goy at April 14, 2012 04:03 PM (6bwIq)

48 Televised Lingerie Chess - yeah, I'd watch.

Hey, I heard they're shutting down the Lingerie Football League, so maybe there's now a market for this.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2012 04:04 PM (xm1A1)

49 Totally Bengt Enkerot or at least the guy he played.

Posted by: A Swedish Kni-ght at April 14, 2012 04:04 PM (LYwCh)

50 Can we have an Audio-Visual Club thread?

Posted by: Cicero at April 14, 2012 04:04 PM (QKKT0)

51 would not who sheesh

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 04:04 PM (YrBvI)

52 @49: Catch Mad Men on AMC. Big Fun. Lots of chest.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:05 PM (niZvt)

53 Sweetest chess match, eva http://tinyurl.com/74uycr9

Posted by: memories of 3DS vs Maya wars at April 14, 2012 04:05 PM (HOOye)

54 So... Which of you moronettes is up for a game of chest? I'll take it easy on you, and let you capture my bishop right off the bat

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:08 PM (niZvt)

55

"Non-chess players usually think that what makes chess grandmasters so superior to the rest of us is that they can see some ridiculous number of moves ahead (like 15-20), while we lesser mortals simply can't. But I don't think this is the case. "

***********

 

I think it is the case actually.  I remember reading somewhere that Kasparaov thought about 17 moves ahead.  Once they're out of their opening prep, the lines of attack are actually limited because they've researched and studied the main lines and most of the variations.  Most of the GMs can play one another to draws for these reasons.

 

Have you ever watched these guys resign against one another late in the midgame?  Happens a lot.  Even when the game goes off script, there are a limited number of viable lines, so they're able to think out to 10-15 or more moves ahead.  Well, the tactical players at least. 

 

It's really all about math, which is why computers can be programmed to play it at the GM level.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 14, 2012 04:09 PM (isP0N)

56 > who do you think is the greatest chess player never to be world champion? Bronstein. Played as well as Botvinnik but, as good a chess player as Botvinnik was, he was an even better politician and was able to rig the world championship rules to keep himself on top.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 14, 2012 04:10 PM (d9lOz)

57 I wish I remembered when Bobby Riggs let whatshername win that tennis match.

Posted by: soothie at April 14, 2012 04:10 PM (052zE)

58 52 Can we have an Audio-Visual Club thread? Posted by: Cicero at April 14, 2012 08:04 PM (QKKT0) That one's going to leave a mark...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:11 PM (niZvt)

59

Shit, I'm geeking out over chess now.  Time to reign it in.

 

I see someone touched on Christina Hendricks earlier...

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 14, 2012 04:11 PM (isP0N)

60 > 18 Schlecter had his match against Emmanuel Lasker won by simply drawing the last game. But instead, he played for a win and lost. Posted by: RC Speck Ahhh! According to the LA Times chess columnist in the 1970s (Koltanowski? Kashdan?) Lasker set up the rules to the match so that Schelecter had to win by TWO points, not 1. Since he was only 1 point up going into the last game, he had to play for a win. Long term world champs don't win matches just over the board - they set the rules to win before the match.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 14, 2012 04:13 PM (d9lOz)

61 touching on Hendricks is on my bucket list.

Posted by: goy at April 14, 2012 04:13 PM (6bwIq)

62 About thirty years ago there was a popular book about people being chess pieces in a very old game of chess that dates back to the Roman Empire and involved some secret magical power located somewhere in North Africa. Forgot the title.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2012 04:15 PM (YrBvI)

63 watch out for Bishop Dolan, he's dangerous

Posted by: Bart Stupak at April 14, 2012 04:15 PM (KcINh)

64 THANKS FOR POSTING THIS! I'm glad I found your blog!! Steve Common Cents http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com

Posted by: Steve at April 14, 2012 04:15 PM (z/HBC)

65 Long term world champs don't win matches just over the board - they set the rules to win before the match.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 14, 2012 08:13 PM (d9lOz)



That's pretty low and pathetic.  Just as bad as outright cheating.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:16 PM (X3lox)

66 You need to wait for another post where Ace waxes poetic about his lower GI issues.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 14, 2012 08:02 PM (SsG4J)



Another?  He's already done one?

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2012 04:16 PM (X6akg)

67 There are some pretty cute chessplayers out there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jana_Krivec.jpg

Posted by: silverpie at April 14, 2012 04:16 PM (+94Q7)

68 And a game of my own. I have no idea who this will look when this blog's formatting kicks in. ----------------------- I had stopped playing chess for 8 years - heard about a nearby club and took it up again. Shamrock Swiss - 24 Feb 1987 Kimes Franklin Carter 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nc6 4. c3 Nf6 5. d4 ed 6. cd Bb4+ 7. Bd2 d5 8. Bb5 B:d2+ 9. Nb:d2 de 10. Ne5 Bd7 11. N:d7 Q:d7 12. Qa4 0-0 13. 0-0-0 a6 14. B:c6 bc 15. Nc4 Qf5 16. Q:c6 Rab8 17. Rd2 Qg5 18. Ne3 Qa5 19. a3 Rb6 20. Qc5 Qa4 21. Rc2 Rd6 22. Rc4 Qb3 23. Rb4 Qd3 24. Rd1 Qe2 25. Rd2 Qe1+ Here's where 8 years of rust kicks in. I had the delusion that when I blocked with 26. Rd1 ... that he would just move the Q back to e2. I was going to repeat the position twice to gain time on the clock. But of course he simply ripped off the pawn. I had a brain fart! 26. ... Q:f2 27. Nf5 Rdd8 28. Rd2 Qg1+ 29. Kc2 ... My king begins his exciting trip. 29. ... Nd5 30. Rb7 Qe1 31. Qc4 Ne3+ 32. N:e3 Q:e3 33. R:c7 Qf4 34. g3 Qf5 35. Qc5 Rd5 36. Qe7 Rdd8 37. Qc5 Qf3 38. d5 e3 39. Rd3 Rfe8 40. d6 Qg2+ 41. Kb3 e2 42. d7 ... Isn't that fun. We're both about to promote pawns - in the middle game! 42. ... Rb8+ 43. Ka4 e1/Q He queens! That often prompts resignation but this game is just warming up. 44. Rc8 ... There are so many back rank mate threats.... 44. ... Qge4+ 45. Rd4 Qd1+ 46. Ka5 Qde1+ 47. b4 Rb:c8 48. dc/Q ... 4 Queens - no waiting! 48. ... Qe4e3 49. a4 g6 50. Q8c7 Q1f2 51. Rd8 Qfe2 52. Q5:e3 Q:e3 53. K:a6 Qe6+ 54. Ka5 Kg7 55. R:e8 Q:e8 56. b5 Qa8+ 57. Kb4 Qe4+ 58. Qc4 Qe7+ 59. Kb3 h5 60. a5 Kh7 61. b6 g5 62. Ka4 Qd7+ 63. Kb4 h4 64. a6 Qd2+ 65. Kc5 Qf2+ 66. Kc6 hg 67. hg Qf3+ 68. Qd5 Qc3+ 69. Kd7 Kg6 70. Qc6+ Q:c6 71. K:c6 and with the queens off the board there are no more perpetual check threats and I win easily. ---------------

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 14, 2012 04:17 PM (d9lOz)

69 I'm pretty sure that if Preznit Ladies Tees didn't have his hands full turning our country into a socialist dystopia, he'd be the greatest chess player of all time.  But he'd be really modest about it. 


Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 04:17 PM (w407e)

70 I'm pretty sure that if Preznit Ladies Tees didn't have his hands full turning our country into a socialist dystopia, he'd be the greatest chess player of all time. But he'd be really modest about it.


Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 08:17 PM (w407e)



Barky will pick up chess when his sorry ass finally gets thrown in jail.  His muslim faith will come back out again, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:19 PM (X3lox)

71 68 You need to wait for another post where Ace waxes poetic about his lower GI issues. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 14, 2012 08:02 PM (SsG4J) Another? He's already done one? Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2012 08:16 PM (X6akg) Yeah, he gave us the intimate details of his bad case of the Hershey Squirts. Something about the spray leaving an image that looked like a religious figure on the back wall of his bathroom.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:19 PM (niZvt)

72 #73 I miss all the good stuff

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:22 PM (R5yLq)

73 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2012 04:23 PM (6HIQG)

74 Haha, Hummingbird, I was just thinking the same thing.  Curse my job that keeps me from the important daytime threads . . .

Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 04:23 PM (w407e)

75 Oh, and one more thing, a question to ponder this evening, who do you think is the greatest chess player never to be world champion? Who wuz robbed? How about 3. Harry Nelson Pilsbury 2. Reuben Fine 1. Paul Keres These are my candidates. Who are yours? Nimsowitch

Posted by: kjl291 at April 14, 2012 04:23 PM (cYMja)

76 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2012 08:23 PM (6HIQG)



Shah-maht.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:24 PM (X3lox)

77 Barky will pick up chess when his sorry ass finally gets thrown in jail. His muslim faith will come back out again, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 08:19 PM (X3lox)


He'll be a tough opponent right out of the gate. What with one set of rules for him and another for you.

Posted by: Beto at April 14, 2012 04:24 PM (lpWVn)

78 #76 Oh Peaches! I have just the most wonderful news. Stuck told me he loved me this morning! I couldn't believe it! Just out of the blue. I almost fell over!

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:24 PM (R5yLq)

79 @80: This thread just turned into Chick Talk...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:26 PM (niZvt)

80 #81 You should fit right in then!

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:27 PM (R5yLq)

81 82 #81 You should fit right in then! Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 08:27 PM (R5yLq) Well... My nipples have feeling tender lately...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:29 PM (niZvt)

82 #83 You sit down right here hon. We'll braid your hair and talk about it.

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:32 PM (R5yLq)

83 Stuck told me he loved me this morning! I couldn't believe it! Just out of the blue. I almost fell over!

Aaaaaaawwwwwwww . . . . very sweet.  Did you say it back?  Or is our intrepid hero going to need some triage later?

Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 04:32 PM (w407e)

84 This thread just turned into Chick Talk...

 

 

Posted by: CoolCzech

 

Yo' shut yo' mouth. She's talkin' 'bout Shaft!

Or Stuck on Stupid  (he's kind of a white Shaft)

Posted by: Isaac Hayes at April 14, 2012 04:32 PM (sJTmU)

85 Oddly, a chess thread seems to have run out of gas...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:35 PM (niZvt)

86 Catch 'Endgame' on Hulu. Big fun. Lots of chess. Posted by: goy at April 14, 2012 08:03 PM (6bwIq) I looked that up, sounds cool

Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2012 04:36 PM (q177U)

87 Well... My nipples have feeling tender lately...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 08:29 PM (niZvt)

 

Holy crap, they are!!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 14, 2012 04:36 PM (WUWb9)

88 @89: lol

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:37 PM (niZvt)

89 #85 Of course I said it back! What meant the most to me was the way he said it. He just put his arms around me and said you know I love your right? Every other guy that has ever said I love you said it like he meant I love you at the moment. With Stuck it was different. He was stating it as a fact. It was like it was carved in stone. I'm sorry I know I'm babbling

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:38 PM (R5yLq)

90 Hello, this is Mato. Why are you here on a Saturday night instead of out trying to get laid?

Posted by: Mato at April 14, 2012 04:38 PM (Wlpxd)

91 CARTAGENA, Colombia — Five U.S. military members have been ordered confined to quarters over possible involvement in inappropriate conduct at the same hotel here as the 11Secret service agents sent home in an unfolding scandal involving local prostitutes.


gah -  at   drudge

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:39 PM (TomZ9)

92
Did someone say chick?  I'm here baby and ready for action!

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at April 14, 2012 04:40 PM (TkGkA)

93  sorry for stepping on thread.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:40 PM (TomZ9)

94

Hockey, Weather, and Chess... oh my!

 

'Interesting' set of threads today...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 14, 2012 04:40 PM (lZBBB)

95 @91: that's so sweet! So... Did he try feeling you up?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:40 PM (niZvt)

96 Hummingbird.
Did you faint, blush , cry, or say me too.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (TomZ9)

97
I'm available for speed dating.

Posted by: Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (TkGkA)

98 Can we have a separate thread for the gooey chick talk? This place is where I go to avoid chick talk.

Posted by: Michael at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (Hl5ka)

99 Wasn't Lasker the longest reigning champ? Or was it Botvinnik?

Posted by: Paul Morphy at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (cYMja)

100 I love cake.

Posted by: FUBAR at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (mdhVr)

101 CARTAGENA, Colombia — Five U.S. military members have been ordered confined to quarters over possible involvement in inappropriate conduct at the same hotel here as the 11Secret service agents sent home in an unfolding scandal involving local prostitutes.

Being confined to quarters seems to be what got them into this mess to begin with.

Well, it's nice to know that the rest of our institutions are degrading to cave-dwelling habits right along with the Precedency.  It's nice when a whole nation collapses in a suicidal frenzy together.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (X3lox)

102 nevermind, neato hummingbird, now tell em to make you a sammich.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (TomZ9)

103 93 CARTAGENA, Colombia — Five U.S. military members have been ordered confined to quarters over possible involvement in inappropriate conduct at the same hotel here as the 11Secret service agents sent home in an unfolding scandal involving local prostitutes. gah - at drudge Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 08:39 PM (TomZ9) Gee, maybe the sign out front says Bordello Caragena for a reason?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:41 PM (niZvt)

104 #97 CoolCzech! You are such a dirty old man. I like that about you

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:42 PM (R5yLq)

105 and said you know I love your right?

Your right jab is that good?  I've seen some I liked, but ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:42 PM (X3lox)

106 I'm sorry, hummingbird... I'm not good at chick talk, am I?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:43 PM (niZvt)

107 #104 He and Sissy made homemade beef stew tonight. They also made biscuits from scratch. I don't think I could eat a sammich right now. Besides I'm saving that until I can catch him by surprise again.

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:44 PM (R5yLq)

108 This place is where I go to avoid chick talk.

Posted by: Michael at April 14, 2012 08:41 PM (Hl5ka)

alright but chicks usually come equipped with boobs

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:44 PM (TomZ9)

109
A CNN reporting genius today pronounced it Cartegina!  Hey sweet cheeks, it's Carteheyna!

Posted by: Liberal Fuckup Corrector at April 14, 2012 04:44 PM (TkGkA)

110 This president has destroyed the military to the point that they can't get laid for free. I want to see the TV ad.

Posted by: Michael at April 14, 2012 04:44 PM (Hl5ka)

111 #108 Not yet but don't worry your pretty little head. We will get you trained. Now, go make me a sammich!

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:45 PM (R5yLq)

112 I'm sorry, hummingbird... I'm not good at chick talk, am I?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 08:43 PM (niZvt)



You phrased your statement in a question, so I think you're doing pretty damn good.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:45 PM (X3lox)

113 All this chick talk is giving me a yeast infection.  Hope you are happy now!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 14, 2012 04:45 PM (WUWb9)

114 ThePrimordialOrderedPair. I'm starting to wonder if all the guys were sent to this particular one and scantily cald women were knocking them up.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:46 PM (TomZ9)

115 110 alright but chicks usually come equipped with boobs Not in the AOSHQ comments. Here, it's all just text.

Posted by: Michael at April 14, 2012 04:46 PM (Hl5ka)

116
Chick talk reminds me of my third wife.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at April 14, 2012 04:46 PM (TkGkA)

117 #115 Humph! Talk to me after you survive you're first period. Sissy!

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:47 PM (R5yLq)

118 Gee, maybe the sign out front says Bordello Caragena for a reason?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 08:41 PM (niZvt)

o heck, i didn't know that i guess i should read the whole post or something

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:47 PM (TomZ9)

119 I'm starting to wonder if all the guys were sent to this particular one and scantily cald women were knocking them up.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 08:46 PM (TomZ9)



Nah.  Just a different sort of person in the Secret Service, these days.  Different people in important positions all over.  Generally stupid, inept, incompetent people. 

Affirmative action for idiots and America-haters.  It's what America voted for in 2008.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:47 PM (X3lox)

120 Well, it's nice to know that the rest of our institutions are degrading to cave-dwelling habits right along with the Precedency. It's nice when a whole nation collapses in a suicidal frenzy together. Well, America is sort of like a dead fish. They say the rot starts at the head.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:48 PM (niZvt)

121 If you boys aren't nice we'll talk about curtains and  couch fabrics.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:48 PM (TomZ9)

122
Hey girls, wanna talk about bastard conservatives who seek to deny us our muffin pills?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 14, 2012 04:48 PM (TkGkA)

123 #119  I've survived a lot of periods.  They just weren't mine.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at April 14, 2012 04:49 PM (WUWb9)

124 ThePrimordialOrderedPair, Are secret service  hired with new Presidents?

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:49 PM (TomZ9)

125 are new secret service*

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:49 PM (TomZ9)

126
If you boys aren't nice we'll talk about curtains and couch fabrics.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 08:48 PM (TomZ9)


Finally there's something for me.


Posted by: Barney Frank at April 14, 2012 04:50 PM (TkGkA)

127

alright but chicks usually come equipped with boobs


 

Posted by: willow

 

Only if they are married! (rimshot!)

Posted by: Zombie Henny Youngman at April 14, 2012 04:50 PM (sJTmU)

128 Not in the AOSHQ comments. Here, it's all just text.

Posted by: Michael at April 14, 2012 08:46 PM (Hl5ka)

true, true, what a rip-off. huh?

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:51 PM (TomZ9)

129 Well, America is sort of like a dead fish.

More chick-talk, huh? 

They say the rot starts at the head.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 08:48 PM (niZvt)

Yep ... Though, America has a sphincter at the top.  It was already pre-rotted when it was surgically implanted there.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:51 PM (X3lox)

130 Zombie Henny Youngman. haha
xactly.

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:51 PM (TomZ9)

131

Ironically, when the King is half-black and half-white, everybody loses.[i/]

 

And the black Queen's base is too big to fit in a square.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 14, 2012 04:52 PM (P5Sdg)

132

Affirmative action for idiots and America-haters. It's what America voted for in 2008.


 

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

 

 

It's what I majored in at College; Hope and Dope. Here, want a toke?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Jones at April 14, 2012 04:52 PM (sJTmU)

133 anyway off to dig a couple holes for new rose bushes, have fun

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 04:53 PM (TomZ9)

134
When will you running dog imperialist warmonger capitalist do a tread on cake?

Posted by: Kim Jong-un at April 14, 2012 04:53 PM (eXigD)

135 ThePrimordialOrderedPair, Are secret service hired with new Presidents?

Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 08:49 PM (TomZ9)


Not exactly, but every President (and even the odd retard Precedent who doesn't "look like all the other Presidents on the dollar bills" has a great deal of influence).  On top of this, Barky puts his greasy fingers all over everything that comes close and does his best to mess it up.


BTW, you can call me "pop".  My screename is too long to for anyone to feel obligated to copy it or type it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 14, 2012 04:54 PM (X3lox)

136 So, they put the carte before the 'gina? 

Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 04:54 PM (w407e)

137 If you boys aren't nice we'll talk about curtains and couch fabrics.

Or shoes. Please, not shoes!

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2012 04:55 PM (xm1A1)

138 133 And the black Queen's base is too big to fit in a square. Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 14, 2012 08:52 PM ( Watch it. Or I'll queen you. Look it up in urban dictionary, honkey!

Posted by: Michelle at April 14, 2012 04:55 PM (niZvt)

139

Yep ... Though, America has a sphincter at the top. It was already pre-rotted when it was surgically implanted there.

 

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

 

 

Dude, chill out. I'm a pothead, not a butthead. Here, take a drag on this and mellow out.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Jones at April 14, 2012 04:55 PM (sJTmU)

140 anyway off to dig a couple holes for new rose bushes, have fun Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 08:53 PM (TomZ9) --------------------------------------------------------- It's dark out.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 14, 2012 04:55 PM (jucos)

141

All I know is the White Knight is talking backwards

 

And the Red Queen is off her head

Posted by: Alice, when she's ten feet tall at April 14, 2012 04:57 PM (sJTmU)

142 142 anyway off to dig a couple holes for new rose bushes, have fun Posted by: willow at April 14, 2012 08:53 PM (TomZ9) --------------------------------------------------------- It's dark out. Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 14, 2012 08:55 PM (jucos) She lives in Fantasia.

Posted by: Michelle at April 14, 2012 04:58 PM (niZvt)

143 Off, fat ass sock.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 04:58 PM (niZvt)

144 #139 A lesson I hope you boys have learned well tonight. Unlike the North Korean's our weapons of mass destruction actually work!

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 04:58 PM (R5yLq)

145 Is there a significant difference in winning percentage in chess between white and black?  Is there that much a First Mover Advantage?

Posted by: logprof at April 14, 2012 04:59 PM (ykSKg)

146 Bronstein

Posted by: blogdorce one at April 14, 2012 05:00 PM (wfW7n)

147 "A Polish Officer never accepts money for doing his duty."

Posted by: CMU VET at April 14, 2012 05:00 PM (p7ZkL)

148 Those of you who play chess..... how far ahead DO you think?

Do you have plays in your head ahead of time, too, like if your opponent does x, you know you'll do a, b or c? Is that something that you go in to the game knowing?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 14, 2012 05:00 PM (SsG4J)

149 Is there a significant difference in winning percentage in chess between white and black? Is there that much a First Mover Advantage? Posted by: logprof at April 14, 2012 08:59 PM (ykSKg) ----------------------------------------------------------- Always bet on black.

Posted by: Wesley Snipes at April 14, 2012 05:00 PM (jucos)

150 146 #139 A lesson I hope you boys have learned well tonight. Unlike the North Korean's our weapons of mass destruction actually work! Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 08:58 PM (R5yLq) A healthy moose rack is a Weapon of Mass Distraction.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:02 PM (niZvt)

151 149 "A Polish Officer never accepts money for doing his duty." Posted by: CMU VET at April 14, 2012 09:00 PM (p7ZkL) How do they eat?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:03 PM (niZvt)

152 CC: It's a punchline.

Posted by: CMU VET at April 14, 2012 05:05 PM (p7ZkL)

153 A healthy moose rack is a Weapon of Mass Distraction.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 09:02 PM (niZvt)


And bebe's boobs destroy.

Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 05:05 PM (w407e)

154 150 Those of you who play chess..... how far ahead DO you think? Do you have plays in your head ahead of time, too, like if your opponent does x, you know you'll do a, b or c? Is that something that you go in to the game knowing? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 14, 2012 09:00 PM (SsG4J) Well, I always figure that after dinner comes a movie. So, ply her with three martinis after the main course - that should keep her buzzing for the two hours to the end of the movie, and the 15 minute ride to her place...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:06 PM (niZvt)

155 @152. And just a healthy rack can be even more so. A dress off the rack and what a rack in that dress An image that can burn a mans mind. From "Something Wicked" by True North

Posted by: teej at April 14, 2012 05:07 PM (d+1xu)

156

And bebe's boobs destroy.



 

Posted by: Peaches

 

And NO ONE is ready for the Spanish Inquisition!

Posted by: Flying Circus monkey at April 14, 2012 05:10 PM (sJTmU)

157 Tov Kronsteen , by far

Posted by: Avi at April 14, 2012 05:11 PM (J3gb4)

158 Speaking of weapons of mass destruction, I seem to have caught a case of "Captain Trips" ... *koff* bah.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 14, 2012 05:11 PM (QTHTd)

159 That looks like a game I would play.

Posted by: fluffy at April 14, 2012 05:12 PM (z9HTb)

160 #160 I loved that book. I'm sorry to hear your not feeling well Boulder. I hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 05:13 PM (R5yLq)

161 also, Korchnoi and Tal

Posted by: Avi at April 14, 2012 05:13 PM (J3gb4)

162 inprobus eos

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 14, 2012 05:14 PM (e8kgV)

163 Is there a significant difference in winning percentage in chess between white and black? Is there that much a First Mover Advantage?


I think at GM level it's 55-45, with draws going as 1/2 each.

Posted by: fluffy at April 14, 2012 05:14 PM (z9HTb)

164 Hummingbird, I figured something was wrong when I started posting about seeing heads on pikes... d'oh.

I don't like being sick. I feel so helpless. Can't go out, can't eat most food, can't sleep, can't even breathe well. Sucks.

Thanks for your concern though

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 14, 2012 05:17 PM (QTHTd)

165 I killed the thread.

Posted by: fluffy at April 14, 2012 05:18 PM (z9HTb)

166 White wins about 56% of games not drawn at the higher echelons.  Like, over 2000 rating.

Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2012 05:18 PM (I2LwF)

167

However, the Sicilian defense decreases that to 54% overall.

 

And the English Opening means 55% wins, but the games are faster, if you're the kind of player who gets tired.

Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2012 05:18 PM (I2LwF)

168 What great news, Cheney's back and he's lookin' good.  God bless him.

http://tinyurl.com/6w4q5vz

Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 05:19 PM (w407e)

169

What I know about chess I could write a book, but I can't play for shit.

 

It's not the long-distance moves that kill me; it's the 10-15% of the time I lose a game by missing the move right in front of me.

Posted by: Truman North at April 14, 2012 05:19 PM (I2LwF)

170 OT, but RS McCain has written a very nice piece about Ace.

I happen to like Ace a lot, too.

Posted by: Dianna at April 14, 2012 05:20 PM (mKMj1)

171 I don't like being sick. I feel so helpless. Can't go out, can't eat most food, can't sleep, can't even breathe well. Sucks.

Oh, sweetie, I'm so sorry, that sounds terrible.  {{{{{}}}}}  How long has this been going on?  Because it almost sounds like you should maybe seek medical attention.

Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 05:20 PM (w407e)

172 Do fake beta gf's love chess threads or what?

What up Moe Rons.

Posted by: delta smelt at April 14, 2012 05:20 PM (8MCmv)

173 I usually boil some water and if I have some drop some Vicks into it. I cover my head with a towel and hold my head over the water. Someone else mentioned apple cider vinegar and water. They said it tastes terrible but it works great for congestion.

Posted by: Hummingbird at April 14, 2012 05:21 PM (R5yLq)

174

I killed the thread.


 

Posted by: fluffy

 

 

Off with his head!!

Posted by: The Red Queen at April 14, 2012 05:21 PM (sJTmU)

175 Off with his head!!


Far out, Man!

Posted by: Grace Slick at April 14, 2012 05:23 PM (z9HTb)

176 “I can promise that I will try to do it in the first year of my second term,” Obama said in an interview with Univision set to air on Sunday. “I want to try this year. The challenge we’ve got on immigration reform is very simple. I’ve got a majority of Democrats who are prepared to vote for it, and I’ve got no Republicans who are prepared to vote for it. … “So what we need is a change either of Congress or we need Republicans to change their mind, and I think this has to be an important debate during – throughout the country. … “And so I’m just going to keep on pushing as hard as I can, and what I’m going to be encouraging is the Latino community continue to ask every member of Congress where they stand on these issues, but the one thing that I think everybody needs to understand is that this is something I care deeply about. It’s personal to me, and I will do everything that I can to try to get it done. But ultimately I’m going to need Congress to help me.” "You have to understand that I am a clusterfuck who is incapable of compromise unless my opposition just capitulates," said Obama.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 14, 2012 05:24 PM (e8kgV)

177 Oh, sweetie, I'm so sorry, that sounds terrible. {{{{{}}}}} How long has this been going on? Because it almost sounds like you should maybe seek medical attention.
Posted by: Peaches

Ditto!!!!!

Peaches is a sensible person. Listen to her.

Posted by: Dianna at April 14, 2012 05:26 PM (mKMj1)

178 It's not the long-distance moves that kill me; it's the 10-15% of the time I lose a game by missing the move right in front of me.

Heh. I could show you some of my games...

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2012 05:26 PM (xm1A1)

179 Wow, so there *is* a significant difference between White and Black.


Chess is racist!!!!



Posted by: logprof at April 14, 2012 05:26 PM (ykSKg)

180 I spent the whole shoveling mulch in the backyard. Garden looks to die for, but I'm just not as young as I used to be. Achy all over. And... I have redneck syndrome from the sun. You should see all our daffodils along our stone wall, Peaches! Maybe I'll post some more pics tomorrow to Flick.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:29 PM (niZvt)

181 Spent the whole day, I meant to say, damnit.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:30 PM (niZvt)

182 CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — Former Vice President Dick Cheney walked onstage without any assistance and spoke for an hour and 15 minutes without seeming to tire in his first public engagement since he underwent a heart transplant three weeks ago.

Wow. Just three weeks past a heart transplant, and already Cheney's up, tanned, rested -- and kicking ass.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2012 05:30 PM (xm1A1)

183 184 CHEYENNE, Wyo. (AP) — Former Vice President Dick Cheney walked onstage without any assistance and spoke for an hour and 15 minutes without seeming to tire in his first public engagement since he underwent a heart transplant three weeks ago. Wow. Just three weeks past a heart transplant, and already Cheney's up, tanned, rested -- and kicking ass. Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2012 09:30 PM (xm1A1) While he was in the hospital, his warcock was seen tanning on a topless beach in Ibiza.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:33 PM (niZvt)

184 Livorno midfielder Piermario Morosini died on the pitch tonight of a cardiac arrest. He tried to rise several times, but finally collapsed and never regained consciousness. The ref was slow to react and his ambulance was later delayed in traffic. They worked on him at the hospital for over an hour, but his heart never restarted. Morosini, whose family has been plagued by early deaths and suicides, was just 25.

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 14, 2012 05:34 PM (Rk3H8)

185 OT, but RS McCain has written a very nice piece about Ace.

Oh, Dianna, THANK YOU!!!!  A most excellent paeon to our Ewok overlord, indeed.  And, a reminder that I haven't hit the tip jar lately.  My bad . . .

Plus, a little more Cheney (if Pixy permits):

"He has been an unmitigated disaster to the country," Cheney said of President Barack Obama.

Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 05:35 PM (w407e)

186 #186 - How very sad.

#187 - I try to make my contributions to the Moron Horde.

BTW, I have lately tried to make sure I give a solid contribution to Ace's site very month.

Posted by: Dianna at April 14, 2012 05:38 PM (mKMj1)

187 Anyone catch the NOW presidentress saying Ann Romney can't relate to "ordinary woman?" What the hell does an aggressive bulldyke lesbian know about ordinary women? Well, except for what they taste like, IYKWIM...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:40 PM (niZvt)

188 "It produced a wealth of information. Don't let anybody tell you the enhanced interrogation program didn't work. It did," he said to the loudest applause of his visit.


Posted by: Peaches at April 14, 2012 05:40 PM (w407e)

189

“I can promise that I will try to do it in the first year of my second term,” Obama said in an interview

 

I trust he's referring to a prison term.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 14, 2012 05:41 PM (P5Sdg)

190 ONT up...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 05:41 PM (niZvt)

191

What the hell does an aggressive bulldyke lesbian know about ordinary women?



Well, except for what they taste like, IYKWIM...

 

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 14, 2012 09:40 PM (niZvt)

 

CoolCzech, you missed your calling. I'm sure a lot of us would pay a lot to hear you interview the NOW Presidentrix. Feminists are so cute when they're stamping their little feet.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 14, 2012 05:44 PM (P5Sdg)

192 I WAS champion, dammit (briefly).

Posted by: Tal at April 14, 2012 05:48 PM (dTcjl)

193 Lovely game.

Posted by: Jason at April 14, 2012 07:31 PM (x8n/y)

194 Barack Obama's policy of engagement with North Korea lies "in tatters" after it was effectively shot down by Pynongyang's defiant but failed attempt to launch a long-range rocket. Former US officials closely involved with North Korea policy said Washington's attempt to win agreement from Pyongyang to abandon its development of nuclear weapons and rockets in exchange for desperately-needed food aid has failed. They now expect North Korea to try and overcome the embarrassment caused at the rocket breaking into pieces over the Yellow Sea by carrying out a third nuclear test in the near future. If that goes ahead, it will represent a significant foreign policy failure for Obama and prove a severe political embarrassment in an election year.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 14, 2012 07:47 PM (OL96w)

195 Greatest Players Never to Be World Champion: Akiba Rubenstein David Bronstein Paul Keres Samuel Reshevsky

Posted by: Milesdei at April 14, 2012 08:05 PM (d3mlu)

196 When asked how many moves he thinks ahead, GM Richard Reti said, "One." This of course is a wry oversimplification of how GMs think and see, but as the essence of chess is the effort to find the very best possible move in each situation, his point remains valid.

Posted by: Milesdei at April 14, 2012 08:08 PM (d3mlu)

197 My vote among modern players would be Keres, because I don't remember Bronstein other than the name.  Paul Morphy is the most famous great player denied a chance to play the world champion, and clearly the best player of his day.

Nimzovitch is my favorite player in the early 20th century and his 'My System' is a great book, but just wasn't able to rise above some of competitors like Alekhine or Capablanca.

Posted by: waelse1 at April 14, 2012 08:09 PM (VaU8E)

198 Nobody's mentioned Lajos Portisch. Also, Roman Dzindzichashvili. (Not really, I just like typing "Dzindzichashvili".)

Posted by: norrin radd at April 14, 2012 08:30 PM (oa9DQ)

199 I believe Fischer stated that Paul Morphy (who commented above, #101) was the greatest chess player of all time, but he may not qualify since I think he retired from the game before there was an official champioship.  Paul, I'm pleased to see you're feeling better.

Posted by: OCBill at April 14, 2012 09:37 PM (MiSre)

200 Great chess players who could've been the champ: David Bronstein Paul Keres Siegbert Tarrasch Reuben Fine As too how many moves a top player can see ahead, I recollect that Richard Reti said three, depending on the position, ("Modern Ideas in Chess"). Being a good chess player isn't a matter of calculating all the possibilities, it's the ability to look at the board, and see it as an organic whole. The "Immortal Game", (Anderssen v. Kieseritzky, London, 1851), is a nice example. Anderssen saw the forest, Kieseritzky saw the trees. At the end of the game white was down a Queen, two Rooks, and a Bishop. Black was checkmated.

Posted by: jbarntt at April 14, 2012 10:27 PM (UNFot)

201 ______________________________

Love the chess reenactment vids.



Posted by: _Dave_ at April 14, 2012 10:30 PM (2amQY)

202 Re: my post at 202: Add Viktor Korchnoi to my list of could've beens

Posted by: jbarntt at April 14, 2012 10:48 PM (UNFot)

203 13. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.

Not only won't you not hear me saying that, I don't even know what the hell that means. Now pass me those pork rinds the race is fittin' to start.

Posted by: Just A Grunt at April 15, 2012 03:39 AM (+KDIM)

204 Alekhine's perennial punching-bag Efim Bogoljubov deserves consideration.

Posted by: BoomerVF14 at April 15, 2012 04:04 AM (uHmCG)

205 I completely missed the chess thread because I was obsessing about Titanic last night. Which was as it should be, being the 100th anniversary and all.

Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at April 15, 2012 04:38 AM (sdi6R)

206 Can anyone translate this into traditional notation (P-K4, etc.)? I never got the hang of all that newfangled d4 e6 crap.Thanks.

Posted by: rtw at April 15, 2012 07:30 AM (pPmyV)

207 David Bronstein.  He tied the 1951 world championship match with Botvinnik, 12-12, but under the rules of the match, the incumbent retained the title in the event of a tie

Posted by: john at April 15, 2012 07:37 AM (hO/XC)

208 On the notation, I'm old school too. But its really not bad. If no piec is referenced, like say E4, then thats a pawn moving to column E, row 4, from white''s POV. For other than pawn moves & all captures, simply reference the piece and the space. Add the small cap column before the piece if given a choice between the two Rooks for example. I play USCF tournament games with local club most Sundays and all games be recorded to count.

Posted by: smokedaddy at April 15, 2012 01:24 PM (lTmpG)

209 Suggest BabasChess for a good free downloadable app with crafty analytic tool. Chesscube also good and free but limited on # of free games. Don't care for Yahoo.

Posted by: smokedaddy at April 15, 2012 01:28 PM (lTmpG)

210 Paul Keres, hands down. To ensure Keres did not defeat Party favorite Botvinnik, the Soviets applied coercion against Keres, making not-so-implicit threats regarding the safety of his family. Keres threw the 1948 Championship. Keres should've won; rather, he should've been allowed to win.

Posted by: troyriser at April 15, 2012 03:15 PM (YCeSE)

211 To Korchnoi, I would add Ivanchuk, who has been a fixture at the top and one of the most creative players of all time.  Others have contributed many new ideas to opening theory, Ivanchuk even updates ending theory!

He's a lousy match player, though.

Posted by: Adjoran at April 15, 2012 03:19 PM (VfmLu)

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