January 26, 2012

Science: Low IQs Linked To Conservative Beliefs, Such As Racism And Fascism
— Ace

I'll let you read the article.

Now you'd think the guys announcing this decision must be pretty smart. I mean, if you're going to lay down this kind of smack, you'd better be buttoned-up and squared away as far as your own brainpower.

Right?

Except while reading this I came across this--

Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

Obviously any ideology is an attempt to deal with complexity and unknowns -- ideology provides a rough guess or rule of thumb in new situations.

And obviously the leftwing has all sorts of simplistic bromides precisely like this.

Did they test to see how leftwing dummies might cling to simplistic pablum?

Nope!

But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

Speculation.

Let's not bother testing that. Let's get out the door with the conclusion that rightwingers are dummies.

Oh, and, by the way: Let's define "conservative beliefs" as "racism" and "support for near-fascism."

Because you know all those freedom loving liberals would never, ever support a government that intrudes into people's personal choices and dictates the legally-permissible choices.

via @allahpundit

Posted by: Ace at 11:19 AM | Comments (223)
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1 Funny, I didn't encounter many libs in Engineering school. You wanna see where the dummies are, head over to the Education part of campus. 99% liberal and can't add 2 + 2.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 26, 2012 11:21 AM (UU0OF)

2 See, I told you that all that science and technology and stuff was bad. Ban fire! Ban the wheel!

Posted by: Hollowpoint (circa 1500) at January 26, 2012 11:22 AM (ggRof)

3 brb, bein' brilliant by failing at my job

Posted by: barky the wonder failure at January 26, 2012 11:22 AM (nj1bB)

4 Now taking bets on how fast this meme shows up in the MBM.

Posted by: rockmom at January 26, 2012 11:22 AM (aBlZ1)

5 Conservative beliefs:  Racism, near-fascism, 2+2 = something in the neighborhood of 4

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 26, 2012 11:23 AM (B+qrE)

6 I've been trying to figure out why I didn't get into Brock U for years.
I thought it was just because I was stoopid.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (ZJCDy)

7 cogito ergo shutup

Posted by: rene Descartes was a drunken fart at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (hGRh5)

8 4 Now taking bets on how fast this meme shows up in the MBM.

It's been there all along.

Posted by: pep at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (YXmuI)

9

Duhhhhhh.  I'm too stupid to know how we can borrow money forever with paying it back. 

Duhhhh.  I'm too stupid to know how we can spend more than we make each and every year.

Thank God I have Obama to look after me.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (jUZRg)

10 If believing in God, the sanctity of life and the right to be free is stupid, then call me stupid.

Posted by: srdem65 at January 26, 2012 11:24 AM (OqbFO)

11 ...and they think MY screeds are poorly written.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 26, 2012 11:25 AM (GsBJY)

12
Yeah, most conservatives graduated from Budweiser U!

Posted by: David Corn at January 26, 2012 11:25 AM (TkGkA)

13 Every few months it seems that the left comes out with a crap study like this. It's very important for them that they"prove"  that "conservatives are dumb" or "FOX viewers are uninformed" or etc. It's one of the ways they reassure each other of their own goodness and virtue.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 26, 2012 11:25 AM (xm1A1)

14

'The world is a dangerous place'

Wait.  What?  You mean it isn't?  Iran and Hugo Chavez just want to be our friends?

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 26, 2012 11:26 AM (jUZRg)

15 Grrr. .....Now, isn't this another Alinsky tactic? ...."Label the enemy" or "Keep them in a state of feeling defeated". .....It's been a while since I read Alinsky.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 11:26 AM (ALwK/)

16 Thankfully I wasn't born a conservative with a trust fund, family values, and so prudish I couldn't toke a joint or suck a cock.

Posted by: OWS Lieutenant at January 26, 2012 11:26 AM (TkGkA)

17

Low IQ? No problem, with our patented Brain Download Technology, we can make you THINK your a Genius!!!

.

And since Perception IS Reality, as our Federal Government Washington Bubble so amply demonstrates, use PhotoShop 2025, the Brain Edition, to Edit YOUR Reality!

Posted by: Ad Writer, 2025 at January 26, 2012 11:27 AM (lZBBB)

18 These guys failed right out of the gate - fascism is a leftist ideology. May they be beaten to death by self employed machinists and HVAC repairman.

Posted by: Jean at January 26, 2012 11:27 AM (WkuV6)

19
The only thing that's missing is:

"...and are more prone to violence."

Posted by: soothsayer at January 26, 2012 11:27 AM (sqkOB)

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 11:28 AM (8y9MW)

21
Most of our financial success is because the majority of our readership are responsible liberals.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, NYT & Obama Buttboy at January 26, 2012 11:28 AM (TkGkA)

Posted by: FORGER - Monster Hunter at January 26, 2012 11:28 AM (ktNK+)

23 'Low IQ? No problem, with our patented Brain Download Technology, we can make you THINK your a Genius!!!
.
And since Perception IS Reality, as our Federal Government Washington Bubble so amply demonstrates, use PhotoShop 2025, the Brain Edition, to Edit YOUR Reality!'

Yeah, I am bitch, ain't I?

Posted by: Reality at January 26, 2012 11:29 AM (F6KtL)

24 This "study" gets released every few years, coincidentally before a presidential election.

Posted by: EC at January 26, 2012 11:29 AM (GQ8sn)

25 If you want to really laugh notice whose posting on the comment section of that article Our old racist friend Kilgore Trout

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 26, 2012 11:30 AM (6vX9j)

26 You can make the results stand up and bark like a dog just by the assumptions you make about the correct, i.e. not-prejudiced, answer.

From the article: Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority."

Well, why is it untrue that family life suffers without a parent at home during the day?
Why is it wrong that schools should teach children to obey authority? 

Posted by: pep at January 26, 2012 11:30 AM (YXmuI)

27 a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ...  Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

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LOL.  History has given this test before.  Many times.


The whole "people I don't know are threats" thing is beyond ridiculous.  What they mean to say is "I like my culture and prefer it to others ... otherwise I would just adopt the one I liked better" combined with knowledge that the whole world is not like the West, but with just different names.  (And even the West has moved to kill itself a couple of times in the last 100 years)

Posted by: really ... at January 26, 2012 11:30 AM (X3lox)

28
The democrat party is wholly responsible for stamping out the evils of racism, and more specifically, the Klu Klux Klan.

Posted by: Zombie Robert Byrd at January 26, 2012 11:30 AM (TkGkA)

29 Left wing intellectuals doing a research project on those with conservative views that they are opposed to ha? What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 26, 2012 11:30 AM (i6RpT)

30 Fascism is a right wing ideology? And also, I call bullshit.

Posted by: Big T Party at January 26, 2012 11:30 AM (hC5jI)

31
Obama. The only genius in the world who can only speak one language.


Posted by: soothsayer at January 26, 2012 11:31 AM (sqkOB)

32 @19
The only thing that's missing is:

"...and are more prone to violence."
  If they keep peddling this kind of shit, that notion may turn out to be true. 

Posted by: Jaws at January 26, 2012 11:31 AM (4I3Uo)

33 Oh, geez.  Not this again.

Okay, liberals, we get it.  We're stupid.

So we'll be over here making lots of money- and counting it- while you sit over there poor but superior and using "new math" to explain why you don't understand the big numbers we're using to count our money.  Mmmkay?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 11:31 AM (8y9MW)

34 Science!

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 11:31 AM (979FD)

35 I read the first few paragraphs of that COUGH study and couldn't stand any more.  Liberals are far more racist than anyone outside of a KKK/New Black Panthers convention. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2012 11:32 AM (i0App)

36 Corrupt science is corrupt. News at 11.

Posted by: Red at January 26, 2012 11:32 AM (7us0J)

37 Obama. The only genius in the world who can only speak one language.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 26, 2012 03:31 PM (sqkOB)

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Actually, he speaks Bahasa, too.

Posted by: really ... at January 26, 2012 11:32 AM (X3lox)

38 Liberals abuse the meaning of words, abuse the scientific method, and abuse the process of education. It's SCIENCE! (That's another word they abuse). Tell me something, study authors - is it possible, given your premises, that your "study" could have come to any other conclusion? Is it falsifiable? Also, are those premises simply based on your own ideology? I think we know the answers to these questions. Why are liberals anti-science?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2012 11:32 AM (bxiXv)

39 There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

I think it's pretty racist  to cast Hank "Guam might tip over and capsize" Johnson as giving in to racism and prejudice.

Posted by: Bob Dole at January 26, 2012 11:33 AM (e8kgV)

40 Just yesterday I stopped using Yahoo as my home/start page. I couldn't take the bias any longer.

Posted by: BK at January 26, 2012 11:33 AM (R2Yh0)

41 OT: Any of you morons into Scandi Noir? I just got turned on to it. I watched The Farfegnugen, which is Danish for The Killing. They was an American remake but the Scandi one was much better. The Danish and Swedish ones are the most popular. I refuse to watch anything Norwegian. That's going to fucking far... Anyway, I am sure some of you will accuse of going to the dark side, but, what the hey. For countries who are always whining how peaceful they are, they sure are into crime and murder.

Posted by: mike at January 26, 2012 11:33 AM (BpjHA)

42
You know what else seems to be linked to conservatism?

Wealth.

Somehow all those stupid idiot knuckledraggers idiot conservatives are all in the top 1% tax bracket.

How is that possible?!?!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 26, 2012 11:33 AM (sqkOB)

43 You might as well just invite Clarence by name...

Posted by: Newts snappy answers to stupid questions at January 26, 2012 11:33 AM (xXhWA)

44 You know who's racist? Republicans like Abe Lincoln!

Posted by: The Honorable Senator Robert Byrd at January 26, 2012 11:33 AM (hC5jI)

45
Science: Low IQs Linked To Conservative Beliefs, Such As Racism And Fascism

I'll let you read the article.





I -- I can't read. *sobs*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2012 11:34 AM (3wBRE)

46
Was George Bush a dumb hayseed country bumpkin fool?

Or was he an evil genius?

He was both!

Posted by: soothsayer at January 26, 2012 11:34 AM (sqkOB)

47

Remember that "study" which said kids watching Spongebob made them stupid?  We all laughed, because it was done by some whackjob with a mission, and it had no credibility as a scientific study.

Well nowadays I hear people quoting it like Spongebob (the actual show, not what it represents) is causing stupid kids! 

The point is, these people have figured out that science doesn't have to get bogged down with all that sciency stuff like controlling for variables and statistical analysis that is actually supported by the data... or even real data at all!  Heck, it's the new superstitious rubbish, meaning we've come full circle. 

Oh well, I'm sure my opinion here is just another indication that I'm a conservative simpleton. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 11:34 AM (TOk1P)

48 >>>This "study" gets released every few years, coincidentally before a presidential election. it's like 3 or 4 times a year now.

Posted by: ace at January 26, 2012 11:34 AM (nj1bB)

49 After 8 years teaching engineering at several colleges for the rich and stupid, I agree with Schwalbe...The bright kids learn hard science and tend conservative.  The not-so-bright go for soft studies and tend progressive.

...and they paid me more than the College President to get me to teach there.  Didn't that piss off the soft studies Instructors.

Good times.  Good money and lots of musty liberal wrinkle-bags to harass. 

Posted by: minuteman (formerly trainer) until Juggy is gone at January 26, 2012 11:35 AM (DGxyd)

50

Huh.

 

Must be why our country is so behind in Math, Science, and Engineering, huh?   After all, we ARE a center-right-leaning country......

 

/sarc

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 26, 2012 11:35 AM (0xqzf)

51
Newsflash!

Wall Street is run by low-IQ'd neanderthals!

Wait, what?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 26, 2012 11:35 AM (sqkOB)

52

Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience.

Prejudice? Like what? I'm partial to chocolate ice cream. I guess that makes my IQ lower?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 11:35 AM (w+PM8)

53 The study states: "Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted"

So I get no credit for mastering it with such facility?
I thought that these people were all about fairness.


Next up, this same psychologist is going to do a study on the societal implications of Rock, Paper, Scissors.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 11:35 AM (ZJCDy)

54 Grrr. .....Now, isn't this another Alinsky tactic? ...."Label the enemy" or "Keep them in a state of feeling defeated". .....It's been a while since I read Alinsky.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 03:26 PM (ALwK/)

 

Wait - you can read? You're sure you're not a liberal? I'm conservative, so I just look at the pictures.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 11:36 AM (CkP6X)

55 It won't be long until I see links to this story on Facebook. I shall unfriend all who do so. My friends list needs culling.

Posted by: weew at January 26, 2012 11:36 AM (ElfHn)

56 it's like 3 or 4 times a year now.

Of course it is, ace: their wunderkid is failing miserably and they have to convince people (like the proverbial Emperor's Court) that it's not that he's failing- he succeeding wonderfully- but only smart people can tell.  You don't want to admit you're not smart, do you?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 11:36 AM (8y9MW)

57 These studies always remind me of religious zealotry, like a medieval monk "studying" Jews and their Christ-Killing, baby blood stealing ways. Sure, he doesn't actually know or study any Jews but he has heard all about them and seen them with their crooked noses and shifty eyes in the city. Its just bigotry cloaked in a thin veil of scientific respectability. They start with such an absurd, ignorant, hateful position they can't even consider an objective study.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (r4wIV)

58 "40 Just yesterday I stopped using Yahoo as my home/start page. I couldn't take the bias any longer."

Yeah, my email is on Yahoo, and when they started adding "news" to the page (around the time of the 2004 election year) I immediately flipped it to "sports" and never read their news again.

(No offense, guys, I just find sports uninteresting and I really hate celebrities--the other choice.)

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (i0App)

59 I'm to believe that trying communism over and over again while millions die, starve, and are aborted is smart?

Posted by: dagny at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (w+PM8)

60 The SCIENCE is settled!!!!! Science has too be falsifiable. RRRAAACCCISSSTTT!!!!!! Yep that's intelligence.

Posted by: Big T Party at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (hC5jI)

61 "Because you know all those freedom loving liberals would never, ever support a government that intrudes into people's personal choices and dictates the legally-permissible choices." Rather, you mean the way he George Bush stomped all over the Constitution, eviscerated the fourth amendment, the First Amendment (free speech cages), denied habeas corpus to whomever he thought was a terrorist? conducted surveillance of American citizens without judicial review? Shit like that?

Posted by: Genesis P. Orrige at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (NE0Ln)

62

42 -

I heard Rush say today that guys like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet just claim to be liberals in public to get the liberals off their backs about being rich.

 

Could just be he's baiting them for fun.  But he might also be right. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (TOk1P)

63
Wow, talk about simple minded, I don't know that I have ever seen a "study" like this that purports to gauge the IQ of everyone of a political philosophy.

Just to make a leap like that reflects the lower IQ of the "scientists".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (XrrP7)

64 Also, when you want to make a "study" about "prejudice," it might behoove you not to assume "conservatives are bigots." Just sayin'. Especially since liberals practically *drip* with bigotry, ideological and otherwise.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (bxiXv)

65 The dumbass libs are always coming up with these ridiculous studies. Another example of how corrupt science has become. Did I say become? The commies were always using science and psych against their perceived enemies. And take a look at this: http://goo.gl/I8Dfo The french like to warehouse their kids with autism instead of treating them with therapies that are successful because those therapies are American. I shit you not.

Posted by: mike at January 26, 2012 11:37 AM (BpjHA)

66 Wha?
Kan some bdy rad this fur mi?

Posted by: Pecos, stupid Texan at January 26, 2012 11:38 AM (2Gb0y)

67 "Prejudice? Like what? I'm partial to chocolate ice cream."

No, that's bias,

Posted by: real joe at January 26, 2012 11:38 AM (979FD)

68 It always amuses me that "High IQ" liberals can never seem to grasp the definiton of fascism.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 26, 2012 11:38 AM (W7ffl)

69

"I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

 

So ... uh ... where does "Hope" and "Change" fit into his perspective? Hmmm?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 11:38 AM (CkP6X)

70 The study neglected to point out the root cause of prejudice against Conservatives.
I think it begins with Marx.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 11:39 AM (ZJCDy)

71

Anyone know where this term "right-wing" comes from?  It appears to have been created just to associate National Socialists with individualists, who would otherwise have nothing in common.  But we've got this label sticking us to Nazis?

Posted by: Newts snappy answers to stupid questions at January 26, 2012 11:39 AM (xXhWA)

72

"studying" Jews and their Christ-Killing, baby blood stealing ways.

 

How else do you make Matzoh?

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 11:40 AM (nKPY4)

73 pretty sure it was left wingers standing behind cows waiting for them to fart so they could measure the level of methane gas

Posted by: kj at January 26, 2012 11:40 AM (CXpT5)

74 They don't mean us, right?

Posted by: Muslims, black people, and latinos at January 26, 2012 11:40 AM (F6KtL)

75

61 -

Stomped, you say?  Oh heavens to betsy, that doesn't sound good!  You must have a newsletter, where do I sign up???

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 11:40 AM (TOk1P)

76 At least these stupid right wingers know how to operate an umbrella.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 11:41 AM (fuUYY)

77 pretty sure it was left wingers standing behind cows waiting for them to fart so they could measure the level of methane gas

Posted by: kj at January 26, 2012 03:40 PM (CXpT5)

******

You mean I wasn't supposed to taste whatever came out the back?

Posted by: Genesis P. Orrige at January 26, 2012 11:41 AM (ggRof)

78 Speaking of stupid bigots, our Vice President is at it again:
At an event today in Rochester, New Hampshire, Vice President Joe Biden used an Indian accent to imitate call service employees.
Video over at the Weekly Standard.

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 11:41 AM (5H6zj)

79 So all lawyers must be right wingers right? Can I get a high five AmishDude.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 11:43 AM (fuUYY)

80 Didn't they do a study not too long ago that people who watched Fox News were on average smarter than those that watched the other cables?


I'm working on getting rid of the comma too along with the apostrophe.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 26, 2012 11:43 AM (UK9cE)

81

Let's not forget how these people define cognitive ability.  It's usually with testing, which is focused on regurgitation of data.  They seldom measure actual intelligence - the ability to comprehend and use information. 

Further, they forget that the academic apparatus baises the results.  The "smart" kids who go to college have their heads filled with foolish Liberalism.  The "dumb" kids are not exposed to the same amount of leftist pap, so they are often left with the teachings of parents and pastors - actual wisdom as opposed to Leftist ideological BS.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 26, 2012 11:43 AM (xUM1Q)

82 Vice President Joe Biden used an Indian accent to imitate call service employees.  Video over at the Weekly Standard.

You know, it should be so easy to win this election, and instead we're forced to pick between a NE Liberal Republican and Newt Gingrich.

Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul.  Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 11:44 AM (8y9MW)

83 "Because you know all those freedom loving liberals would never, ever support a government that intrudes into people's personal choices and dictates the legally-permissible choices."

Like Mitt Romney signing into law the gun tax and other taxes that raised taxes by hundreds of millions of dollars.

Like Mitt Romney signing Romneycare, forcing everyone to do their personal business the way Romney wanted, with free abortions and free healthcare for illegals.

Like strapping that dog to the roof, dictating its choices to the terrified freezing animal just because the dog was Mexican.

Like kicking down doors and grabbing books from orphans.

Posted by: Obsolete Perrybot in need of a firmware update | at January 26, 2012 11:44 AM (8RL8E)

84

Anyone know where this term "right-wing" comes from? It appears to have been created just to associate National Socialists with individualists, who would otherwise have nothing in common. But we've got this label sticking us to Nazis?

 

The Soviet Union is responsible for this, with the CPUSA singing the doo-wops here.

 

The logic was that anyone who opposed communism (as practiced by the extant regime in the USSR) was by definition a right-winger.

 

Note that they call each other right-wingers when they have a purge. Was Trotsky a right-winger? In the real world, not so much. But according to Joe Stalin, you betcha.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 11:44 AM (CkP6X)

85 Yeah look at Joke Biden and tell me [we're] the stupid side.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 26, 2012 11:44 AM (PddVe)

86 Rethugs are poopieheads!

Posted by: Dermot the Prog at January 26, 2012 11:44 AM (LomS8)

87
This git is apparently part of a complete lab chock full of bleeding hearts:

Lab of Intergroup Processes (BLIP)

We have broad interests in prejudice generally, whether toward immigrants, foreigners, homosexuals, the obese, Americans, Muslims, women. We are even interested in fictitious groups and attitudes toward non-human animals.

Where a group or "other" exists, you can bet that someone expresses a negative attitude toward that group, or a positive stereotype that can nonetheless oppress that group. We seek to discover as much as we can about these processes, and are actively working on ways to circumvent and/or reduce negative intergroup relations.



Discrimination against fictitious groups?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2012 11:45 AM (3wBRE)

88 I am confident that the pernicious left wing bias at Yahoo will be dealt with after Google purchases/merges/assimilates them.

Posted by: Bob Saget at January 26, 2012 11:45 AM (SDkq3)

89 <Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?>

Bing Vodka Tampon.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 26, 2012 11:45 AM (tf9Ne)

90 Fascism is not conservative.  Its a total state controlled environment.  A liberals dream.  Nazi Germany was the FIRST state to have laws against smoking.  Thats right folks.  Hitler was a strict vegetarian and didn't smoke.

He even kept his vegetarian chef in the bunker with him at the end and didn't excuse him until he had his last meal before he killed himself.

Conservatives are for small gov't, and less control over our lives.

If these people are smart, they'd know this.  Looks like they got educated by the History channel.  Which throws around the 'right wing' nazi BULLSHIT

These people are dumber than my left thumb.  Oh yeah and fuck you

Posted by: Total Asshole at January 26, 2012 11:46 AM (bcmD0)

91 "Schools should teach children to obey authority."

I can't believe you stupid wingnuts would agree with something this dumb.

On an unrelated note, starting next week, any student who asks prohibited questions during the daily global warming lessons will be expelled.

Posted by: Principal McMoonbat at January 26, 2012 11:46 AM (2jQGY)

92

Five hundred years ago, all of the "smart" people knew that the Earth was flat and that evil spirits caused disease.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 26, 2012 11:46 AM (0xqzf)

93 Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?
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Make friends with a Paulbot and avoid the issue altogether, IYKWIM. 

Alternatively, I would start with young, fruity white wines.  Portugese vinho verde (available somewhat seasonably but dirt cheap), pinot grigios, chenin blancs. 

Or you could go with mixed drinks.  Put yourself in the hands of a good bartender. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 11:46 AM (5H6zj)

94 Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?

Cider. Or rum-based fruity drinks that come with umbrellas.

Mojitos and Lemon Drops, that kind of thing.

(And, no, I'm not sharing my home-made boysenberry liqueur. I'm almost out, and I'm not going to be in the house when the boysenberries fruit again.)

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 26, 2012 11:47 AM (bjRNS)

95 I don't know any personally, but ALL conservatives (especially the white ones) are prejudiced and racist, so they must be dumb.

Posted by: Brilliant Libtard at January 26, 2012 11:47 AM (VndSC)

96 Didn't Newsweak recently have a cover asking why Obies critics are so dumb? Could this be a new tactic? I remember seeing a bumper sticker advertised saying "If you voted for Obama to prove you are not a racist, vote him out of office to prove you are not stupid". Maybe somebody saw it, too, and it struck a nerve.

Posted by: Chilling the most for perry at January 26, 2012 11:47 AM (6IV8T)

97

And yet is the LEFT who constantly treats people as Groups... who play Group Identities against each other... who want some Races to get help, which means others are at a disadvantage...

.

So... how does THAT work...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 26, 2012 11:47 AM (lZBBB)

98

Why does IQ only matter when liberals say so?

There is a documented IQ gap of 15 points between whites and blacks. When will that be mentioned in the media?

Posted by: Chris at January 26, 2012 11:48 AM (fsFpl)

99 Cider is a good suggestion.  More manly than white wine. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 26, 2012 11:48 AM (5H6zj)

100 You have to understand that where you see "left and right," they see "right and wrong." Period. This "study" started with the question "why do people keep choosing wrong (right-wing) ideas?" Apart from the fact that liberals are too dumb to tell the difference between euro-right-wing and American right wing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2012 11:48 AM (bxiXv)

101
Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 03:44 PM (8y9MW)

Skip the weak stuff and go full in(takes less too). Val U Rite, Ace should get a kickback

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2012 11:49 AM (FIDMq)

102

17 Low IQ? No problem, with our patented Brain Download Technology, we can make you THINK your a Genius!!!

 

No need. Just vote Democrat. That proves to the world you're a genius. And you can tell everyone so, including yourself.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 11:49 AM (CkP6X)

103 Hmmm... also note this study is from ENGLAND... which is a WAY different place than the US.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 26, 2012 11:49 AM (lZBBB)

104 Let's not bother testing that. Let's get out the door with the conclusion that rightwingers are dummies.

Oh this is just some knob polishing for a research grant later. Know which side your bread get's buttered on right. I mean really you are a psychologist in Ontario, how much are conservatives willing to pay for your studies? They would likely call your entire field a series of uninformed and historically incorrect guesses about something far more complex than can be described. So you come out with a study that says the libbies are the smart ones and all their ideological opposition is a bunch of poo poo heads. Yep that get ya yer next grant allright. Keep telling the folks that say they ought to run everything that they're the smart ones....

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 26, 2012 11:49 AM (0q2P7)

105 Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 03:44 PM (8y9MW)

 

Go ye to the bar, friend, and order a vodka and tonic with lime.  Don't take the well vodka - get somethink like Skyy, or Grey Goose, to make sure there are no extra pollutants.  Squeeze the lime into the drink, but not to vigorously - it's the zest that's crucial, not the juice.  Once you have savored this most excellent of beverages you will be ready to join the elite.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 26, 2012 11:50 AM (xUM1Q)

106 no salt (NY), no donuts for old folks (CA) ,greenies lightbulbs, cars, smoking, breathing(USA) gvt in our wombs, lungs, personal space(USA)Dems protesters ows's for killing those that have stuff(USA)Dem officials threatening returning soldiers , bible thumpers, those against abortion with the strong arm of the gtv(USA)
liberals for non-freedom.

Posted by: willow at January 26, 2012 11:50 AM (h+qn8)

107 Do you have to hand in the man card if you get a drink with an umbrella in it?

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 26, 2012 11:50 AM (FIDMq)

108 94 Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking? Little more than a half a glass of light beer and the rest with cranberry juice.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 26, 2012 11:50 AM (fuUYY)

109 I'm left to discern that most every liberal is a transparent f*cker.  Transparent in their obvious attempt at labeling conservatives as neanderthals.  And f*cker as in....they're f*ckers.

Posted by: Lady in Black....{sigh} at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (F+Xfj)

110 I bet I could shoot a hole in that theory of yours. Why don't you write it on your hat.

Posted by: Stoopid Conservative with a gun at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (VndSC)

111 Barry, tell me a story ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (CkP6X)

112 Everyone should start drinking with a Crown and Coke. 

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (XrrP7)

113 So, being born intelligent is like being born gay. Based on that, we have a working model already for how we can quickly bring our smartness (along with the racism and fascism) into the mainstream. In your faces Mo'Fo's!! We will march against cerebrophobia until your children are fully accepting of our right to exist!

I have an idea for the next Doo-Dah parade, and they are not going to like it!

Posted by: JayBee at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (Xwgt3)

114 >>Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?


I think that the best way to approach it is to be goal oriented.
And it doesn't have to be up, you can sit in a comfy chair or a bar stool.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (ZJCDy)

115 The left is always trying to accuse the right of racism, but how many of them voted for Obama based on nothing but the color of his skin?

Posted by: Crazy Bald Guy at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (E7I0g)

116 This isn't new, they always do this. "This" being parade their own bigotry as fact. Also, they're anti-science. See "post-normal science," darling of the left, which is basically process suborned for ideology.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2012 11:51 AM (bxiXv)

117

Bing Vodka Tampon.

 

Pro Tip: Load the ends of them with Rx pills to maximize effect.

Posted by: garrett at January 26, 2012 11:52 AM (nKPY4)

118

Do you have to hand in the man card if you get a drink with an umbrella in it?

Not if it's served by a naked woman.

 

Posted by: Roy at January 26, 2012 11:52 AM (VndSC)

119

84 -

I thought someone here said it came from the french.  Their legislature was divided, and the socialist/commies were put on the left.  When fascists started arriving, they more or less arbitrarily put them on the right, thus making the right-wingers. 

 

Even if that ain't strictly the case, I'm going to go ahead and believe it anyway, because it sounds good, and being a conservative, that's all that matters to me. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 11:52 AM (TOk1P)

120 ...and don't forget your Diane Sawyer Sock

Posted by: Pro Tip at January 26, 2012 11:52 AM (nKPY4)

121
Hmmm... also note this study is from ENGLAND
Posted by: Romeo13


"lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario"





Apparently conservatives also kinda suck at geography....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 26, 2012 11:53 AM (3wBRE)

122 I don't care what you say about Joe Biden.  He was right about the San Francisco Giants going to the Superbowl.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 26, 2012 11:53 AM (jUZRg)

123 Do you have to hand in the man card if you get a drink with an umbrella in it?

If you order only one. If you order two (one for each hand), then you're good.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 26, 2012 11:53 AM (bjRNS)

124

Alcohol is a shitty drug.  Just ask your doc for some painkillers.  If he asks why, show him this article.

Posted by: Newts snappy answers to stupid questions at January 26, 2012 11:53 AM (xXhWA)

125 "I heard Rush say today that guys like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet just claim to be liberals in public to get the liberals off their backs about being rich.

Could just be he'sbaiting them for fun. But he might also be right. Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 03:37 PM"

It makes a lot of sense.

Romney took it a little overboard though.

Posted by: Obsolete Perrybot in need of a firmware update | at January 26, 2012 11:53 AM (8RL8E)

126 There is a documentedIQ gap of 15 points between whites and blacks. When will that be mentioned in the media?

Posted by: Chris at January 26, 2012 03:48 PM (fsFpl)

 

It was a while back.  But they just said the IQ test is racist.  I sh*t you not.

Naturally it has nothing at all to do with the cultural decline of the inner cities, nor with the utter failure that is Leftist pedagogy.  Heaven forbid any of the actual facts be brought up.

F-ing libtards.  May they die in a fire.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 26, 2012 11:53 AM (xUM1Q)

127 Wait, I don't get it  -- If I'm smart I am a racist? Or does I have ta be dum? I'm all confused!

Posted by: JayBee at January 26, 2012 11:54 AM (Xwgt3)

128

The funny part is that liberals believe that decisions should be left up to "experts," thereby implicitly admitting that others are considerably brighter/more knowledgeable than they are.

 

Curiously, their faith in "experts" remains unshaken even after the "experts" fail dismally. How many Nobel Laureates in economics were involved in Long Term Capital Management, anyway? How they doin'?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 11:54 AM (CkP6X)

129 Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?

.....Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 03:44 PM (8y9MW)

Ever tried Kalua? .....a 'black russian' is good with cheesecake.....a 'white russian' is with cream added. .....There are a lot of flavored liquors out there...chocolate, caramel, etc.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 11:55 AM (ALwK/)

130 Pictures, Ace.  I can't read.  I have to have some chick that smells like cat piss  type my comments. 

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 11:56 AM (ZVvIA)

131 Whenever anyone I know tries to push any liberal ideas within my earshot, I respond with just one word - Detroit.

Posted by: Not an Artist at January 26, 2012 11:57 AM (fOPv7)

132 Just go back to the Adam Corolla rant from a couple weeks ago.  That tells you the difference between Libs and Conservatives.

Libs don't learn the humility of defeat, so they think they're winning no matter what.  Participation trophies all around!!!!  We're all teh sMaRt NoW!!!

I'm SMAHT!!!  Don't you think I'm SMAHT!!!????

Posted by: © Sponge at January 26, 2012 11:57 AM (UK9cE)

133 Ever tried Kalua? .....a 'black russian' is good with cheesecake.....a 'white russian' is with cream added. .....There are a lot of flavored liquors out there...chocolate, caramel, etc.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 03:55 PM (ALwK/)

 

Good suggestion.  Another nice kahlua option is to mix it with cream directly over ice.  I like it about half and half.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 26, 2012 11:57 AM (xUM1Q)

134 @68 It always amuses me that "High IQ" liberals can never seem to grasp the definiton of fascism.   The smart ones understand the definition just fine.    It's just part of the socialist's Big Lie Strategy.  Tell dullard voters enough times with a straight face that Hitler was a man of The Right and they will start to believe it.  Ignore the fact that "NAZI" is short for National Socialist Workers Party and that Hitler just didn't think that International Socialism was racist enough and eventually you'll be able to call Clarence Thomas a Fascist.

Posted by: Jaws at January 26, 2012 11:57 AM (4I3Uo)

135 It's so funny how the left thinks if they repeat the lies enough, we'll forget that their views are responsible for millions of deaths, that they practically worship human sacrifices in the form of abortion and letting depraved rapists and murderers go while protesting any form of actual punishment for such people.

I'm also sick of the moronic meme that we have to 'understand' other cultures.  Bullshit.  I understand that some cultures are downright evil and deserved to get stomped out of existence, like the Mayans and alot of the other blood cults.  And why can't THEY understand my culture, that lefties are sub-human since they signed away their humanity to worship human sacrifice, animals and trees.  I'm quite sure the animals and trees are ashamed to be associated with such people.

Frank Herbert had one thing right.  There's people and then there's humans.  And not all people are human, they've decided not to be and that's the real shame of it all.

Posted by: Silentbrick at January 26, 2012 11:58 AM (iqBGF)

136 The book "The Bell Curve": Raaaaacist (per R.S. McCain, there are five 'a's in Raaaaacist).
Use of the same principles of "The Bell Curve" to declare one's political enemies Raaaaacist: science.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at January 26, 2012 11:59 AM (BvTwT)

137

119 84 -
I thought someone here said it came from the french. Their legislature was divided, and the socialist/commies were put on the left. When fascists started arriving, they more or less arbitrarily put them on the right, thus making the right-wingers.

 

It does come from the French, specifically the seating of the National Assembly. The republicans sat on the left, the monarchists and clericalists on the right. (No fascists - fascism only came into being in 1922, with Mussolini.)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 11:59 AM (CkP6X)

138 Frank Herbert had one thing right. There's people and then there's humans. And not all people are human, they've decided not to be and that's the real shame of it all.

Posted by: Silentbrick at January 26, 2012 03:58 PM (iqBGF)

 

Well said.  And committed Libtards can't be reasoned with.  You can't argue them into understanding.  You can't teach them.  They can't learn. 

Thus, they can't be dealt with as if they were rational creatures. 

Posted by: Reactionary at January 26, 2012 12:00 PM (xUM1Q)

139 Jesus, really? They do this every week now, "uh we set up a scientific stufy based on our prejudices in which we ignore the evidence and the conclusions to shoehorn our bigotries into a big headline conclusion." "Oh btw, nancy pelosi is totally smart and not an escaped animatronic rodent from Chuck E Cheese's less successful socialism themed restaurants." Signed, XXOO sciency* liberals *we don't actually have degrees in a real science.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:01 PM (QxSug)

140  (No fascists - fascism only came into being in 1922, with Mussolini.)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 03:59 PM (CkP6X)

 

Who was still a better, more enlightened, and more patriotic leader than our current president.  At least Mussolini was fond if Italy.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 26, 2012 12:01 PM (xUM1Q)

141 Liberalism is a mental disease.

Posted by: jukin at January 26, 2012 12:02 PM (5oKRH)

142 Kalua, Bailey's and any flavored coffee creamer.

I had a roommate that like that.  Put me to sleep every time.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 26, 2012 12:02 PM (UK9cE)

143 Want to take up drinking but don't like beer or wine? 1) Hard Cider - tastes almost exactly like apple juice Stick to lighter ones at first like Woodpecker. Woodchuck is also good. 2) Mixed drinks - there is a whole world of great mixed drinks out there. Again start light with something like "Pimm's Cup". Instructions on the bottle. Great summer drink any time. Or since it's winter try making a hot buttered rum- with spiced rum. Yum! As an alternative- hot chocolate with a shot of peppermint schnapps. Later on, there are some great cocktails out there.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 26, 2012 12:03 PM (XBdI0)

144

You know what leftists hate most? Bigotry.

Bigotry and trailer trash rednecks.

Posted by: Warden at January 26, 2012 12:03 PM (YRzP3)

145 oh btw, there's a really good other take down of this sort of bullshit. There was a "study" saying conservatives are cowards when really the studied show that liberals were psychotic and did not respond to scary images. http://tinyurl.com/7vjdgcz

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:04 PM (QxSug)

146 144 You know what leftists hate most? Bigotry.
Bigotry and trailer trash rednecks.

Posted by: Warden at January 26, 2012 04:03 PM (YRzP3)

I don't know... they have quite a tolerance for KKK and OWS.

Posted by: Newts snappy answers to stupid questions at January 26, 2012 12:05 PM (xXhWA)

147 racism? like voting for a half white president because he's black? Or objecting to a political movement because its participants are white?

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:05 PM (QxSug)

148 Well said. And committed Libtards can't be reasoned with. You can't argue them into understanding. You can't teach them. They can't learn.
Thus, they can't be dealt with as if they were rational creatures.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 26, 2012 04:00 PM (xUM1Q)

 

 

A better analogy.  Liberals/leftists are emaciated winos sitting on a door stoop by the bus station fantasizing that they're sitting on the beach at Monaco.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 12:05 PM (ZVvIA)

149 facism is also, of course, socialism. I guess they meant nationalism, but there's nothing wrong with nationalism.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:05 PM (QxSug)

150 I read the report of the study.  "Conservative" ideology was measured by one's answers to questions like, "Does Mum staying home from work make for a better home life?" and measuring your reaction to seeing a picture of a turd floating in the crapper.  Conservatives think pictures of turds are "icky" (sic). 

Malia and Sasha scored off the charts liberal cause they answered the first question " Hell, No!!"  and reacted to the second one with "Daddy!"




Posted by: Barky O'Einstein at January 26, 2012 12:06 PM (Xv7f/)

151

133 Ever tried Kalua? .....a 'black russian' is good with cheesecake.....a 'white russian' is with cream added. .....There are a lot of flavored liquors out there...chocolate, caramel, etc.
Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 03:55 PM (ALwK/)

Good suggestion. Another nice kahlua option is to mix it with cream directly over ice. I like it about half and half.

.

Oh yeah. Yum. In a blender with ice = like a milkshake.

.

Ooops, I should've spelled that 'liqueurs' instead of 'liquors'.....There are some good Swiss Chocolate Liqueurs out there. .....Grand Marnier is good too, an orange liqueur. .....Drambuie is good, high octane, sort of honey-flavored.

Posted by: wheatie at January 26, 2012 12:06 PM (ALwK/)

152

Ignore the fact that "NAZI" is short for National Socialist Workers Party and that Hitler just didn't think that International Socialism was racist enough

 

 

The National Socialist Workers Party really *was* socialist. Its plank was solidly so, and Hitler himself in Mein Kampf railed against international finance, capitalism, and the stock market. (In fact, that was one driver of his anti-Semitism.)

 

Take out the racial bits, and the NSDAP agenda would be hard to distinguish from the OWSers.

 

The Night of the Long Knives took place because the hard-core socialist part of the NSDAP (Roehm and the SA) were agitating to implement hard-left policies. That scared the industrialists into withholding support from Hitler, while the SA's bid to supplant the Army scared the military into doing the same.

 

Solution? Whack Roehm and the SA leadership, right in the middle of a homosexual orgy in Munich.  (Most of the SA top-brass were homosexual.) Problem solved.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:06 PM (CkP6X)

153

@140 At least Mussolini was fond if Italy.

And that's pretty much the main difference between Nazi/Fascisti Socialism (Fascism) and Soviet-style Socialism (Communism) - Rabid Nationalism.  Any other differences (like ownership of the means of production) are pretty much cosmetic.  Yeah, Barky falls on the Internationalist side.

Posted by: Jaws at January 26, 2012 12:09 PM (4I3Uo)

154

139 Jesus, really? They do this every week now, "uh we set up a scientific stufy based on our prejudices in which we ignore the evidence and the conclusions to shoehorn our bigotries into a big headline conclusion."

 

Yeah, really. These guys never get surprised by their results; they always get the results they expected. Amazing.

I'm a real scientist, and I get surprised *all* the time.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:09 PM (CkP6X)

155 "Studies" like these usually come out closer to the election. There a little early this time around.

Posted by: stillers at January 26, 2012 12:10 PM (UBJuq)

156

137 -

So then how did the fascists end up getting stuck on the right?  Lord knows Vichy was crawling with them, and I'm going to go out on a limb and assume there were at least proto-fascists in the... what was the pre-WWII, Third Republic? 

 

I readily admit, whenever I hear of something foul in this world (as opposed to fowl), I always figure if the french didn't invent it, they probably went a long way toward perfecting it. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 12:10 PM (TOk1P)

157 Racism we much!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 26, 2012 12:10 PM (WUWb9)

158 The more you drink, the better it tastes.
Just sayn'

Posted by: Pecos, stupid Texan at January 26, 2012 12:10 PM (2Gb0y)

159 112 Everyone should start drinking with a Crown and Coke.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 26, 2012 03:51 PM (XrrP7)


Or Crown and coffee.  If you're starting your drinking in the morning.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 26, 2012 12:12 PM (/izg2)

160


Take out the racial bits, and the NSDAP agenda would be hard to distinguish from the OWSers.

 

If you've followed the #OWSer movement at all, you can't rule out the racism either.  Remember:  It's all the fault of the Joooos. 

 

The #OWSers are our modern day nazis.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 12:12 PM (ZVvIA)

161

Leftists are so smart that they know how dangerous it is to allow power to be consolidated into the hands of corportations, which can't really compel you to do anything, and how beneficial it is to allow power to be consolidated into the hands of a few government officials who can compel you to do damn near anything at gunpoint.

Posted by: Warden at January 26, 2012 12:13 PM (YRzP3)

162

And that's pretty much the main difference between Nazi/Fascisti Socialism (Fascism) and Soviet-style Socialism (Communism) - Rabid Nationalism

 

Yep. Mussolini was a Marxist at one time, and a highly regarded one who (IIRC) met and was respected by Lenin (pre-USSR) for his intellectual prowess.

 

But during WWI, Mussolini noticed that Italian working class soldiers evinced more allegiance to Italy and the Italian officer class than they did to the Austrian working class soldiers they were fighting. He decided that nationality trumped social class, contra Marxist theology, and decided to build socialism not within the working class across nations (i.e., horizontally), but within a nation and across social classes (vertically). Socialism within a nation - national socialism.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:14 PM (CkP6X)

163

@The #OWSers are our modern day nazis.

 

Well, real Kraut Nazis were pretty snappy dressers.  #OWS notsomuch. Otherwise, yeah - spot on.

Posted by: Jaws at January 26, 2012 12:14 PM (4I3Uo)

164

Hey, if conservatives are generally low IQ people, doesn't that make us a disadvantaged group?

I think we should embrace this study and push for some free government goodies.

I want a free penguin.

 

Posted by: Warden at January 26, 2012 12:15 PM (YRzP3)

165

Leftists are so smart that they know how dangerous it is to allow power to be consolidated into the hands of corportations

 

And never grasping that the government is itself a corporation, i.e., a legal construct that is formally treated like an individual, except one that has a police force, an army, and a prison system.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:16 PM (CkP6X)

166

I want a free penguin.

 

Sign me up for a pony.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:16 PM (CkP6X)

167 yup, the problem with socialism is that only stupid college kids fell for it, the proles didn't care for it. So, they gussied it up with nationalism. Of course, if you read Robert Conquest, you'd know that it was never really that popular, and the brown shirts just intimidated everyone else into compliance.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:16 PM (QxSug)

168 And the left never lets on that their base is made up more so of the left side of the bell curve: people permanently on welfare, union thugs, the dead, etc.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:18 PM (QxSug)

169 Test

You all know that Nazi Germany was the first state to enact anti smoking laws, right?  Hitler also had his own vegetarian chef that he kept with him until his last meal.  Hitler would be at home in San Fran

Nobody was allowed to smoke while Hitler was in the same room.  Sound familiar?  Total state control.. like California or New York.

BTW, anyone see this post? just wondering

Posted by: Total Asshole at January 26, 2012 12:18 PM (bcmD0)

170

@167...and the brown shirts just intimidated everyone else into compliance.

 

Coming to a voting booth near you.  They'll just smile more this time.

Posted by: Jaws at January 26, 2012 12:19 PM (4I3Uo)

171

166 -

Ewww, I'll take a Christina Hendricks (before anybody other Moron-Americans claim her). 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 26, 2012 12:20 PM (TOk1P)

172

Well, real Kraut Nazis were pretty snappy dressers. #OWS notsomuch. Otherwise, yeah - spot on.

Posted by: Jaws at January 26, 2012 04:14 PM (4I3Uo)

 

 

Yeah, I have to admit.  They had some really cool looking uniforms.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 12:21 PM (ZVvIA)

173 read this thing and realize that people like this vote 99% democrat. It's not all enlightened Prius drivers with vague degrees in vapor-thought studies, the left owns the idiot sector. http://tinyurl.com/8xahtvl

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:22 PM (QxSug)

174 Oh I don't know.  Some of the dumbest schmucks I know are San Francisco "progressives".  They do tend to live and think in a fact free universe, and they are not prone to having their minds changed by rational arguments and evidence.  But then they live in a hermetic society where everybody--and I mean everybody holds the same opinions.  So they don't get out much intellectually as it were.   You want to talk bitter clingers to an ideology, just go see your average San Francisco artsy fartsy type.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 26, 2012 12:22 PM (3ESDJ)

175 Great.  The fuckstick moderates already think they're the smartest people in the room.  Standing around waiting for everyone else to make up their minds so they can find the middle and sit down.  Brainiac.  Real brainiac.

Posted by: Dang at January 26, 2012 12:23 PM (BbX1b)

176 156 137 -
So then how did the fascists end up getting stuck on the right? Lord knows Vichy was crawling with them, and I'm going to go out on a limb and assume there were at least proto-fascists in the... what was the pre-WWII, Third Republic?

  They didn't. Pre-WWII governments were socialist, one headed by Leon Blum, but pre-war France was politically unstable, with governments falling all the time.   French fascism only really came out after defeat by the Germans. Part of it was expediency (go with the winners), and part of it was the appeal of a doctrine that had converted two prostrate countries - Germany and Italy - into powerhouses. Some Frenchmen looked at those examples, and decided France could/should do the same. Hell, some *Americans* drew the same conclusion about here.     I readily admit, whenever I hear of something foul in this world (as opposed to fowl), I always figure if the french didn't invent it, they probably went a long way toward perfecting it.     The French invented bureaucracy. No comment necessary.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:23 PM (CkP6X)

177 169 Test

You all know that Nazi Germany was the first state to enact anti smoking laws, right? Hitler also had his own vegetarian chef that he kept with him until his last meal. Hitler would be at home in San Fran

Nobody was allowed to smoke while Hitler was in the same room. Sound familiar? Total state control.. like California or New York.

BTW, anyone see this post? just wondering

Posted by: Total Asshole at January 26, 2012 04:18 PM (bcmD0)


Oh.  We saw it.   

Posted by: Eric Holder at January 26, 2012 12:23 PM (Xv7f/)

178 168 And the left never lets on that their base is made up more so of the left side of the bell curve: people permanently on welfare, union thugs, the dead, etc.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 04:18 PM (QxSug)

 

Let's not leave out criminals. You know that show COPS? My kids and I call it "Meet the Democrats." There's a reason why Dems want felons to get the vote.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:26 PM (CkP6X)

179
From visiting the comments sections at Huff Po, Dem Undergrounds, etc., and what is being said there about Mormons and underwear, I am inclined to believe there is a correlation between bigotry and low intelligence.

Posted by: Lurker at January 26, 2012 12:27 PM (Xv7f/)

180

They didn't. Pre-WWII governments were socialist, one headed by Leon Blum, but pre-war France was politically unstable, with governments falling all the time.

 

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Pre-WWII?  What about post-WWII.  Look at what's happening to the EU now.  European nations have never been stable.  And the coincidence is, is that they have never gotten away from socialism.  Socialism breeds instability.

Posted by: Soona at January 26, 2012 12:29 PM (ZVvIA)

181

Um...

Word is that 97% of one race in particular voted along racial lines in the last presidential election - a percentage higher than you see in military dictatorships, where one take a real person risk by not voting for who you're supposed to.

But that fairly blatant racist action was in support of a LIBERAL. Hmmm...

One could also point out that the same race does significantly worse than the all other races on IQ tests and even the SATs. The result is so painful to liberals that they are in denial about it, claiming that there must be some sort of bias. Being scientific sorts, they hypothesise that all ethnics groups MUST necessarily have the same average IQ, - even though there is no physiological reason for such a thing and there are an abundance of other traits that vary widely among these groups (hair color, eye color, height, blood types, susceptability to various diseases - it's endless). Gee, it's almost as if they think a person's IQ and a person's worth are one-and-the-same (not that they're intellectual snobs, or anything...) Anyway, let's "scientifically" ignore the fact that other ethnic groups that have been in this country for a few centuries less time do just fine.

So - to be blunt - the people at the low end of the IQ curve in this country are predominently liberals. The study is obviously a load of politically-motivated crapola.

This is like that recent Newsweek cover. It's like they're 5 years old, and are calling people who don't approve of their antics "Stupidhead".

Oh, and who was that again that let a group of people off the hook for voter intimidation because of their race? You know, the "civil rights aren't for white people" guy? Oh, wait - that was a liberal, so I guess it doesn't count.

Come to think of it, my argument actually supports the racism/low-IQ connection - it's just that they're LIBERALS.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 26, 2012 12:30 PM (As94z)

182

Of course, if you read Robert Conquest, you'd know that it was never really that popular, and the brown shirts just intimidated everyone else into compliance.

 

Yep, the other problem was, what was the alternative? The KPD (German Communist Party) was agitating to take over, and indeed had already seized power once in Munich and set up soviets there in the early 20s (i.e., a few years after Lenin had done the same thing in Russia).

 

People were terrified of the Communists, before which the other parties were helpless. Only the Nazis had the muscle to fight them in the streets, and to prevent the Communists from breaking up their meetings. (The SA was originally founded for just this purpose.)

 

So the choice before Germans was between Communists and Nazis, when the true nature of the latter was not really known, but that of the former was. The Germans were screwed either way.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 26, 2012 12:30 PM (CkP6X)

183 I'm just a knuckle dragging conservative, but I looked up the actual paper and read their methods section. I'm sure there are plenty of other problems with this paper, but a 30 second look of how they measured "conservatism" shows that the authors basically define it exactly the way a liberal making a strawman argument would. Do they really think they achieved adequate stratification with the imbecilic questions they asked?

It's also interesting that psychology, which is the simplest possible major and the one that people gravitate to when they can't handle the rigors of even the easiest humanities subject, is also the one that is almost exclusivly populated by liberals. Maybe they should look into that one for their next study.

Posted by: Brian at January 26, 2012 12:33 PM (RSqz2)

184
'People I don't know are potential threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'.

FIFY.

Also, I'm more likely to get screwed over by people I know than people I don't.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 26, 2012 12:33 PM (1hM1d)

185 Fascism is a leftist ideology, smart guy.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at January 26, 2012 12:35 PM (iaOP0)

186 I'm telling you, there is something to this; the correlation between bigotry and low intelligence.

Joe Biden pretending to have an Indian accent.
http://tinyurl.com/6mkw2u4

Posted by: Lurker at January 26, 2012 12:36 PM (Xv7f/)

187 "People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays."

This study is not entirely rubbish. Personally I had a chance to do a related study of my own.I have found that late night walks in the park to rendezvous with strange men so they can put their penis in me has raised my IQ by 10 pts, at least.Additionally, I have several autographs from George Michael that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise.At that particular time, I no longer felt a need to cling to my Bible or gun. In conclusion my study revealed that all conservative men should just go beyond tolerance and just bend over and accept the future.






Posted by: befuddled at January 26, 2012 12:41 PM (xJU23)

188 Do they really think they achieved adequate stratification with the imbecilic questions they asked? Posted by: Brian at January 26, 2012 04:33 PM (RSqz2) They don't *care*. The press release attacked their "enemies," that's all that matters. It was never about the science, they don't care about the science, they just want power.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 26, 2012 12:43 PM (bxiXv)

189

@183 'I'm sure there are plenty of other problems with this paper, but a 30 second look of how they measured "conservatism" shows that the authors basically define it exactly the way a liberal making a strawman argument would.'

 

No doubt. Reminds me of when my kid brought home that study showing how "uninformed" Fox News watchers were. A pretty cursory look at the thing showed that that they listed a bunch of liberal beliefs and strawmen, and rated how "well informed" you were based on how much you deviated from the beliefs, or matched the strawman. In at least one case, they polled, essentially, whether you were a "birther", and related claims, even though not a single commentator, or broadcaster on Fox ever supported those claims. It appears you can be "misinformed" on Fox without them even giving you the misinformation.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 26, 2012 12:44 PM (As94z)

190

Brought it home from public High School, BTW.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 26, 2012 12:44 PM (As94z)

191 Jay, I guess that's the problem with commies (and with Muslims, if you read Mark Steyn)...once they reach a tipping point, you start waking up with your throat cut. People start fighting back and you get "right wing death sqauds." Remember, self defense is a greater sin in the lefty theology. See also, Chile, eh?

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 26, 2012 12:52 PM (QxSug)

192 12-word article; 16 words into it and I hit the word "may", which immediately moved it from Science™ to opinion.

Yawn.

Posted by: DamnFino at January 26, 2012 12:52 PM (IG5KL)

193

 "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.

Hey, I read about changing people's feelings in some book. It was boring, because it had no pictures.  Anyway these people who  knew what was best for everybody wanted this guy to like them.  So they put this cage with a rat in it over his face.  Changed his feelings about those people real fast, and he darned if he didn't start just loving them.

Those people knew what was best for everybody, just like liberals do today.  But they were even smarter than our liberals - they made sure their personal computers didn't have keyboards and the internet only worked one way.

Posted by: sherlock at January 26, 2012 01:25 PM (1pJ57)

194 This isn't science, it's a warm fuzzy blanket for liberals to snuggle in their jammies.

Posted by: nickless at January 26, 2012 01:26 PM (MMC8r)

195 This sort of crap always makes me cry a little for these people who call themselves scientists.

Sorry guys, the answers of political ideology vs. intelligence is "it's complicated".  No seriously, that is the correct answer.

Want to know how I know this?  I ran down both exit polls and census data with party affiliation for a couple decades t avoid a single cycle messing with my general data.

Democrats highest winning category is?  HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUTS.
Democrats 2nd highest category is?  PhD GRADUATES

No shit... Republicans tend to take the HS grads and BS/BA College grads.

So the party that has the lowest end of the spectrum educationally ALSO has the highest end of the spectrum educationally.  And although it's not a perfect match, IQ to education level is generally pretty consistent, especially at the extremes...

So this study claiming it's not complicated and in fact really easy to explain?  Bullshit, dead wrong, and poor science.

Oh, and racism is only on the right-wing?  who put it there... ask a liberal and you've got a decent change it was the JOOOOS as they're the cause of all the evil in the world... or something.

But the left doesn't have any bigots; unlike the right who you know are stupid inbred bigots without even meeting any of them.. because they're all the same.

Like I said... that people who call themselves scientists do crap like this... it makes me cry a little inside.

Accept the real answer... it's too f***ing complicated to boil down to a short news story; and if you claim otherwise you're not a scientist, you're a biased bigoted retard.

Posted by: gekkobear at January 26, 2012 01:28 PM (X0NX1)

196 AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 26, 2012 03:28 PM (8y9MW)

Obama is a Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Malevolent Prick.


Posted by: Grandma Mimi at January 26, 2012 01:35 PM (gq4bV)

197 We've tried "smart" for the last three years.

I'm thinking it's about time to give "stupid" a shot again.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at January 26, 2012 01:43 PM (WrHFg)

198 By "dumb" and low IQ this study means white conservatives, not black ghetto rats and other minorities who can't even spell their own name. Science!

Posted by: Jesusland at January 26, 2012 01:44 PM (jIlzK)

199 The author of the study used big words, so it all must be true.  Seriously considering leaving this board and returning to the unicorn farts harvest at the collective.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 26, 2012 01:48 PM (WUWb9)

200 82 AllenG:
Okay guys, I can't even stand the smell of beer, and wine tastes foul. Any suggestions on how I can take up drinking?
 
The first step is to rid yourself of the quaint notion that inebriation was an unpleasant side effect that people put up with because they loved the great taste of wine and beer ;-)

Posted by: Sweet Lou at January 26, 2012 01:52 PM (WrHFg)

201 Why get in an uproar over this study? No intelligent Liberal is going to ever mention it to you, because he will know that the first opportunity he messes up you are going to throw it in his face and EVERYBODY screws up sometimes.

As for non-intelligent Liberals, they are going to get a heck of a lot smarter after a few times of hearing something like:

"Nice going BRANIAC, must have been your superior liberal brain behind that genius decision!"

Posted by: Sweet Lou at January 26, 2012 01:58 PM (WrHFg)

202 One thing that I noticed right off was the lack of a sizable sample that they tested. When you have only 254 people in the sample, the margin for error is quite high. Couple that with the loaded questions that were answered (I know the "test" that they used, because I've taken it before), you'll get a deeply skewed result.

I'm a HUGE Grand Marnier and Drambuie whore. Drambuie straight out of the freezer is like heaven. I make a killer shaken Margarita with Grand Marnier, Cuervo 1800 or something that's been aged a LONG time, and FRESH lime juice. It's like an instant panty remover for some girls.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at January 26, 2012 02:32 PM (QyeW7)

203 I'm conservative because I know the difference between right and wrong. Being in Mensa has nothing to do with that fact.

Posted by: EROWMER at January 26, 2012 02:32 PM (sIm3i)

204

@195 "...Democrats highest winning category is? HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUTS. Democrats 2nd highest category is? PhD GRADUATES ... So the party that has the lowest end of the spectrum educationally ALSO has the highest end of the spectrum educationally. "

 

No surprise. Liberals come mostly in two flavors:

1) Losers looking for a free handout and

2) Elitists, who feel entitled to a position of priviledge without having to do anything that is actually useful, and are generally narcissistic control-freaks who believe that THEY will be the ones who end up calling the shots. These are the high-IQ guys (not the losers of #1) who are referred to as the "useful idiots".

 

But what you've overlooked is that the #1s FAR outnumber the #2s.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 26, 2012 02:37 PM (As94z)

205 Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at January 26, 2012 02:48 PM (E7Z1r)

206 You're welcome.

Posted by: Theodor Adorno at January 26, 2012 02:51 PM (OgNv0)

207 Hah!  You had me going there for a second, Ace.  From your headline I thought when I clicked over I'd be reading about a scientific study.  Nope!  Only psychologists.  Many of them fancy themselves scientists, and to be sure psychology is not by any stretch of the imagination a worthless discipline.  But it's not what an actual scientist would call "science."  YMMV.

Posted by: Crimso at January 26, 2012 02:55 PM (t1vri)

208

The very height of stupidity is voting for someone for president because he promised nothing more than Hope!  Oh, and Change!

Derp!

Posted by: Marmo at January 26, 2012 03:40 PM (pcgW1)

209 Dumb people : Stop taking away my money and spending it on huge failures that grow and grow until they are unsustainable ! Stop cramming your Utopian delusions down my throat and making em pay for them! " Smart people " Hope and change! People who deny the settled global warming science should be locked up or prevented from working by international courts! If you don't vote for Obama it's racism Straight up. Down with the 1% ! No democrat multimillionaires don't count! I won't have to worry about making my car payments any more! "

Posted by: cackfinger at January 26, 2012 03:43 PM (a9mQu)

210 Wow. Yet another 'study' with the central thesis 'People who believe in thing I don't like are big stupidheads.'

Do they factor for guys like William Shockley, a certifiable genius whose inventions changed the world and who in retirement found a second career shocking liberals with his beliefs?

Posted by: epobirs at January 26, 2012 03:51 PM (kcfmt)

211 #199

It is true Psych types were once required to study so fairly difficult math but that was being watered down by the 50s. Jerry Pournelle, who has his Doctorate in Psychology, has often discussed how his real career in Aerospace is owed to having a mentor who required his students to take the real Stat courses rather than the 'For Psych Students' version that already being offered then.

What he has also discussed publicly is that almost everything they were taught in Psych itself was later shown to be utter nonsense.

It is still being taught.

Posted by: epobirs at January 26, 2012 03:56 PM (kcfmt)

212 One more time: Fascism is LEFTWING.

Posted by: SGT Ted at January 26, 2012 03:59 PM (arV2e)

213 So, which is racist?

Support for affirmative action or a belief that affirmative action is ultimately damaging to the very people it claims to help?

How does recognition of the high likelihood for unintended consequences factor into IQ studies?

Posted by: epobirs at January 26, 2012 04:01 PM (kcfmt)

214

Simplistic Obvious Conservative Economic Model:  If we increase the amount of money in private hands by reducing taxes, we will increase economic activity in general, allowing more businesses to hire and labor to negotiate for higher salaries, thus benefitting everybody, including those who may have lost direct subsidies at the lower end of the economic spectrum.

Highly Complex and Subtle Liberal Economic Model:  We gonna give you free stuff bought with other people's money.

Posted by: Haiku Guy at January 26, 2012 04:09 PM (5BXc/)

215 So what is worse?  The ignorant, uneducated hillbilly that espouses "conservative" viewpoints (quotes are because I question what the authors consider conservative- probably hatred of brown people, and a love of guns), or the highly "educated" suburbanite who has been indoctrinated into the liberal way of thinking by all of their liberal-arts professors?

The hillbilly may have beliefs which are repugnant, but you can cut them some slack for having a third grade education.  There is no excuse for the close minded beliefs of our advanced degree'd betters.
 

Posted by: elliot at January 26, 2012 05:45 PM (vY/HY)

216 I have trouble grasping complexity where none exists.

Posted by: Michael at January 26, 2012 08:39 PM (7yRGI)

217 Really? Go to any ghetto where 99% of the residents are liberals and test their IQs. Last time I checked blacks and latinos lead the nation in high school drop out rates. Who is it that vote democrat know matter what? Oh yeah blacks and latinos.

Posted by: gride at January 26, 2012 11:51 PM (wPKc6)

218 Also, I am willing to bet every penny I own that if you walk down the street and pick out the first black democrat and first black republican you see, the black republican will destroy the democrat in IQ ten times out of ten.

Posted by: gride at January 26, 2012 11:55 PM (wPKc6)

219 I wonder how this phrase didn't enter this discussion....the conclusions of this "study" are not even wrong.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 27, 2012 02:08 PM (QxSug)

220 I cant red that artlce. No pitchurs.

Posted by: esurio at January 27, 2012 05:10 PM (fvXGY)

221 A reminder:
Democrats were the slave-holders in the South before and during the Civil War.
Democrats founded the KKK.
FDR, a Democrat President, put the Japanese-Americans into internment camps.
Democrat governors blocked school doorways in the South during the 1950s.
Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
I could go on, but the point has been made.

Posted by: PacRim Jim at January 27, 2012 09:09 PM (yow1m)

222 I love Mitt regardless of what they say over at the dang dirty rino.

Posted by: Avagreen at January 29, 2012 05:40 PM (jKcp3)

223 strike

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at January 29, 2012 06:39 PM (4/nOQ)

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