46 Honestly I was never a Palin fan only in the respect I fucking hated the media murder she experienced, but she would trounce any of these idiots. Probably why the left went out of their way to destroy her. Imagine of they had persecuted Reagan in 1976, to the point he didn't run again in 80

47 I keep voting for some guy named "Nonov Theabov" but he never shows on the ballot.

Must be because he's Russian or something...

48 I must protest the lack of inclusion of Team Meteor.  Hmm, on second thought since Team Meteor is my first choice, carry on. 

49 " Are four more years of Obama preferable to ANY of those guys?  Unless it is, stop your bitchin' and get behind one guy fast before they cannibalize each other. 

Posted by: N. Lonto at January 07, 2012 02:17 PM (u+8qs)"

Why?

The GOP is going to nominate someone no matter how much we bitch about how crappy they are.

It's not actually helping Obama any that conservatives maintain that liberals are wrong, and the liberal candidates (romney primarily) suck.

If anything, it probably makes them look more moderate to the idiot low infos.

We can do that unity BS (that only seems to benefit RINOs rather than the Joe Millers and such) after the nomination.  No conservative should vote Romney in the primary.  There are several less bad options.  If Romney wins, which I guess he probably will, so be it, but the primary is the only time conservatives get to speak their mind anymore, except in VA which is run by the Romney campaign and says being unfair to the voters, by denying them a chance to vote properly, is the only fair result because what's fair to Mitt Romney is really much more important.

50 I think I've talked myself into settling for the meteor.

51 Are four more years of Obama preferable to ANY of those guys?  Unless it is, stop your bitchin' and get behind one guy fast before they cannibalize each other.

Any chance you might get a sense of humor surgically implanted?  It'd sure be less painful than having it jammed where the sun doesn't shine.

52 "Easy to say when you don't go through the meat grinder of a campaign. "To bad Palin, Daniels, Christy, Jindal, whoever didn't run, they would have been a great candidate."  Bullshit, we just don't know.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 07, 2012 02:19 PM (GZitp)"

Argh.  Yeah, you're probably right.   She'd have been crushed by the relentless goofiness of the GOP primary.  Daniels and Palin appear to have a better grasp on this than Perry did.

53 Luap Nor is on the poll. The problem is... his name is the size of his credibility regarding those mysterious ghost-written, all official lookin' newsletters, that had his goddamn name on them. No wonder you can't see it.

54 Cool. We can Clone Perry and vote for the 2nd, New and improved Perry. Sweet.

55 >>My first choice is still in. Na na na na Na
Posted by: dagny at January 07, 2012 02:09 PM (TCgts)

_{You were prolly the type of girl that threw snowballs out the front door and then ducked back in the house.}

56 Umm... at this point, I don't have a first choice. I kind of actively dislike Romney because of Romneycare, so I could go with Santorum/ Perry/ Gingrich, hell, maybe even Huntsman.

So I guess "all of the above but Romney."

57

Jar Jar Binks.

Still more insightful, more sensible, and a better speaker, than Obama.

Also better coordinated.

58 Frankly, I would want a Herman Cain/Michelle Bachman ticket.  I think the Republican party has been too white and too male for too long.  The Democrats got Obama elected because let's face it, being Black helped a lot.  If he'd been more gracious and had included Hillary as his VP, no one could touch them for two terms. 

I know both of the above have sever drawbacks, but just think-- the Dems may have had the first Black president, but the Republicans would have the second one and the first woman V.P. 

Anyway, that's my two cents worth.  As it is, I don't favor any of the current ones, but I'll still vote for whomever runs against President O.

59 If Paul Ryan and/or Marco Rubio were in the race, I'd be breathing fire at all the others. This is as good as it gets, folks.

60 Well my post got eaten. Santorum is behind Romney for me. I think its probably Perry, then Newt, then Romney of the field we have now. Who knows who will still be in by Feb 7 when I get to caucus. Stupid Iowans going for the guy who hasn't been in the media crosshairs yet.

61 Yrrep! 2ndchoice: Romney, I guess. I really don't have a big problem with him.

62

I writing in Lenora Fulani! [ducks]

63 Second choice is a weak Santorum. Really, once past Perry, none of them are WAS.

64 My second choice is, like, Huntsman, because, you know, he's relevant to, like, my generation.

65 I would be happy with almost all gop contenders, because they all would be better than Obama. Ron Paul is as racist and anti semitic as Obama, and better than Obama in every thing else. So he is a distant (very distant) last on my list.

66 'm

67

Multiple choice quiz: What's a RINO? (More than one answer may be correct.)

1. GOP candidate or officeholder who disagrees with me on one issue (which IMHO is the single most important problem facing my community/ state/ the USA.)

2. GOP candidate or officeholder who in Texas would be a liberal Democrat; but who is the most conservative GOP candidate likely to ever be elected from the Northeast.

3. Veteran GOP congressman who quit the House to run for President as a Libertarian; was re-elected to the House and frequently voted against the GOP leadership;  ran for President as a Republican, with polls showing over 30% of his primary supporters were independents or Democrats.

 

68 test

69 Well hump my hound dog! We've all been quoted by Palerider.

70

Newt's my second, Perry's my first.  Mitt's my probably if Newt and Perry drop out.  Sweater-vest-Santorum (aka SVS) is my never-and-please-go-away.

71 holy html

72

I know both of the above have sever drawbacks, but just think-- the Dems may have had the first Black president, but the Republicans would have the second one and the first woman V.P. 

Let's feather the identity politics, and leave that to the Dems. We're looking for the best candidate, not the best candidate with certain plumbing or melanin concentrations.

There's a reason pitchers in MLB can't hit; they're good athletes, but were selected for throwing ability, rather than hitting. Make selections based on what is more important, not on secondary (tertiary? quaternary?) criteria.

73 #1 Romney, #2 Santorum. Out of all the candidates, Romney is the best economically. Even Ron Paul essentially said a few days ago that after himself, Romney is the best on economics. Romney also has the clearest and greatest foreign policy plan, which will increase Pentagon spending by roughly $50 billion a year (it seems like we always need a Republican to fix the military after some Democrat smashes it). I'm from MA, and I was a fan of Romney while he was governor. He was more conservative than people give him credit for, because they cannot look past MassCare. Furthermore, MassCare is just that, MassCare. Massachusetts had every right to try it our and see if it worked, as a state. The federal government, on the other hand, has no right to force it upon the entire nation. Santorum is my #2 because although I disagree with him on birth control, his "compassionate conservatism" and some other issues, he is also good on foreign policy and he is decent on economic matters. He has a forward vision and I believe that will restrain his "compassion," because he understand we cannot spend ourselves into oblivion and that printing cash really hurts working families whose savings are devalued. Plus, he has no chance of actually banning contraceptives or anything. His family focus is what we need, as our immorality is a catalyst for our economic woes, and weak families beget weak economies. Ideally, I wanted Rick Perry, but at this point, he has absolutely no chance. Gingrich seems like a huge, conceited, self absorbed jerk, and a panderer of the worst kind. His arrogance really gets on my nerves these days. I liked him in the early debates, but he has just gone downhill, and his record is real shoddy. Ron Paul is unacceptable on multiple levels, and I would vote for Obama over Paul just because I fear a Paul presidency would be so disastrous for our military and foreign policy goals that our country could not survive it. Plus, I loathe the arrogance and nuttery of his followers, who hate "neocons" and "Zionists" (aka Jews and Israel, don't let their code-words fool you), and many of whom believe 9/11 was an inside job and follow certified crazies such as Alex Jones, Justin Raimondo and Lew Rockwell - the latter two of which are close to Ron Paul. That's another reason to reject Paul; the company he keeps.

74 You will learn to regret this!! It's the price of freedom. Some idiot comes to your site and starts telling you what to do. Go back to Nuremburg, fuck stick. Posted by: fluffy at January 07, 2012 02:15 PM (Lpgtj)

Perhaps I should have included a sarc tag...

75 Palerider what tag did you use?

76 Sigh.  Why couldn't Rodney Dangerfield be running?  He would kill in the debates.  Make a team with Don Rickles.  The VP Debate would be teh awesome.

77 I already forgot who I picked.

78

 

Thanks for the opportunity.  But the problem is I can't even conclude that any of these guys should be number one.

Though nearly all would be better than Obama.

79

I used to be for ABOP. After Barry's effing around with Cordray and the NLRB, I could actually see myself voting for the goofy OBGYN.

Does that make me a bad person?  

80 Dude, I don't even have a first. That's my problem right now.

81 "

Newt's my second, Perry's my first.  Mitt's my probably if Newt and Perry drop out.  Sweater-vest-Santorum (aka SVS) is my never-and-please-go-away.

Posted by: JoAnne at January 07, 2012 02:28 PM (8DdAv)"

That's where I am.  For all my problems with romney ideologically, Santorum is too far from where I am politically too and at least Romney has some executive experience.

It truly is a tough and unpleasant decision to make.  Perry would be great, and it's just so annoying to me he couldn't pull this off.  Newt stretches what I could be OK with, but he's going to be screwed now too (pessimism is the same as psychic powers when it comes to GOP primaries).

82 2ndchoice: Romney, I guess. I really don't have a big problem with him.

See ya in a sec!

83 I didn't use any tag on purpose. Stupid fumble fingers.

84 Uh, don't cut and paste from your blog editor or from Word either.

85

Multiple choice quiz: What's a RINO? (More than one answer may be correct.)

4. Palerider, for breaking the blog.

86 Just take a pain pill. If I win, your lives are going to really suck.

87 If you happen to be in the ACC viewing area, kindly turn your eyes away from the North Carolina vs. Boston College game on your TV. BC is my favorite team, but they're starting all freshmen, sophomores, stiffs and chuckers. God love 'em if they don't lose by 30.

88 First choice is Perry. Second choice is Gingrich. Third choice is Romney. Huntsman oozes contempt, which is a shame. Paul is a train wreck and his foreign policy reflects a pre-1930s view of the world. Santorum does not inspire me. Fair or not, getting demolished in 2006 gives me real agita. He'd likely be crushed.

89 1. Huntsman (because he was right after all) 2. Perry (talk about blowing a lead... good luck)

90 #32- " These choices remind me of the Redskins choices at quarterback." Not to worry proletarian head about it. Wise and glorious Leader make all good choice for people.

91 OT/ Bruins vs Canucks Stanley Cup Final rematch intense, several fights.

92 Oops, not falling over in shock any more.

93 Palerider has Boxed us all in-he votes for us all now!!!! It's the Dem Quoting/Voting Bloc!!

94 Rand Paul -- Ron Without Teh Crazy. (TM)

95 Well see my browser doesn't even show scrambled mess and I was not trying to copy/paste anything? I was trying to type santorum less than sign Romney. Sorry

96 </div>

97 >

If Ron Paul freepers were crafty, they'd fix this poll so that everyone comes out equally.<="" div="">

98 010101 011010 100101100!!!!

99 ???

100 Ack, I can't do it.  I'm still all in on Perry.  If he's out, I will hold my nose yet again and vote for the nominee.  Unless it is LuapNor, in which case I will stay home.

101 This seriously sucks. 1. Perry
2. Luap Nor
3. Mayyybe Newt
4. Mickey Mouse

102 89 LincolnTF: BC has a football team?

103 hmmm

104

105

106  I would vote for Obama over Paul just because I fear a Paul presidency would be so disastrous for our military and foreign policy goals that our country could not survive it. Plus, I loathe the arrogance and nuttery of his followers, who hate "neocons" and "Zionists" (aka Jews and Israel, don't let their code-words fool you), and many of whom believe 9/11 was an inside job and follow certified crazies such as Alex Jones, Justin Raimondo and Lew Rockwell - the latter two of which are close to Ron Paul. That's another reason to reject Paul; the company he keeps.

Posted by: TheMan at January 07, 2012 02:28 PM (pYFCT)

Yeah.  Palin and these other idiots thinking the Paul people are on our side, or that we need their help are fooling themselves.  It's basically the 9/11 truther wing of the OWS crowd we're dealing with here.  They'd vote Obama if they didn't have Ron Paul or a 3rd party to vote for.  Not our allies.  They can all suck a dick.

107 What did you do!?

108 Palerider don't worry about it html fail happens all the time around these here parts-was just trying to figure out if the html was "closable" or whatever by one of the other commenters. It's probably going to take someone that can "see" it.

109 I'm already at my 2nd choice which is Santorum. I wanted Perry but he isn't panning out. If he somehow makes a comeback that's fine with me. I don't vote for awhile.

110 I'm 100% behind the candidate mentioned in posts 107-109!

111 ace has woken

112
I can't have Perry. I think that someone running for chief executive should have executive experience - call me funny that way - which leaves Huntsman and Romney. Of the two, Huntsman's economic plan has been lauded by Tea Party groups and the Wall Street Journal:

http://tinyurl.com/6wvu9vd

If its a choice between the two Mormon ex-governors, I'll take Huntsman.

113 If Perry fizzles.. which God forbid he does.
I am for Romney.

He's fizzled, but I have a faint hope that he will unfizzle.

114 F&F had a guy on this morning who speculated about a huge comeback brewing in SC for Perry.

115 Vic Did you see where he announced a 15 day bus tour in South Carolina-starts Sunday.

116

117

Perry is still my first choice, even though the last two Presidents from Texas wound up disappointing me. Vic said way too much about Huntsman; the short answer is no, sorry Jon. Paul is a loon. Santorum would do for the PA steel industry what Obama did for Solyndra. (Banging shoe on table: GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES ARE BAD. BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD.)

Newt is a brilliant guy with ADD and too much baggage:

"Mr President! North Korea has launched a missile at Los Angeles!"

"Quick, we need to- oh look, something shiny.."

Since Christie, Ryan, Palin, Rice, Jeb Bush, Nikki Haley, Jindal, etc etc aren't running, Romney is my second choice. I'd vote for Trump before Paul or Obama.  

118

Perry, until I have no other choice, like ABO.

119 Dr. Paul! Dr. Paul! Dr. Paul!

EVIL RIGHT-WING BLOGS ARE COMMUNISTS THAT WANT TO SENSOR THE PEOPLE

120

Perry is still my first choice, even though the last two Presidents from Texas wound up disappointing me

W and LBJ both disappointed you?  Am I missing something here?

121 I don't have a favorite at this point or a fall back.

None of these guys has impressed me enough to sign on and actively support him in a primary. When the general election comes around I will support whoever the nominee is over Obama. And I will actively support that nominee because any of them will be an improvement over the current disaster. Unless it is RP vs OB, I'll sit that one out.

Any of these guys in the general will just be an alliance of convenience to get rid of Il Douche.

122 125: Bush 1 and 2.

123 I am the Jon Huntsman cult. He shall reach 1% again.

124 Posted by: Jim in Virginia

Heh.
BC has a very solid football team. I've reconciled myself to the fact that they'll probably never win a National Championship in my lifetime (I'm 40), but they produce NFL players year after year after year. If they can occasionally creep into a Major Bowl, I'll be happy. They went to mid-level Bowl games something like a dozen years in a row until 2011. Just need that one QB/RB who can put us over the edge at the same time that we have the Pro-quality linemen, never seeems to work out that way.

125 Did you see where he announced a 15 day bus tour in South Carolina-starts Sunday.

Posted by: tasker at January 07, 2012 02:47 PM (r2PLg)

I saw where someone had posted it. I turned the TV off early this morning and haven't turned it back on.

126 There wasn't a choice for "Hang Myself," "Axe Murder," or "Emigrate."  I respectfully ask for a recount. 

127 ontherocks thanks for the heads up on dat game der... Hockeyfights.com already has two of the fights up. woah...

128

It truly is a tough and unpleasant decision to make.  Perry would be great, and it's just so annoying to me he couldn't pull this off.  Newt stretches what I could be OK with, but he's going to be screwed now too (pessimism is the same as psychic powers when it comes to GOP primaries).

Posted by: Dustin at January 07, 2012 02:31 PM (rQ/Ue)

Actually, I'm looking forward to tonight's debate knowing that Sweaters Santorum will be standing next to Mitt with a big fat target on is forehead.  I would not be adverse to witnessing some major payback to Sweaters just for the way he went after Perry in Perry's first debate.  The optics of Huntsman and Perry as the end keepers won't be cool, but I'll bet you Santorum will revert to his whiny self when the hits keep coming.  At least I hope so.

Think Sawyer will hit the "medicine" again?

129 In any case, SC is his last chance. He needs first or a strong second. Because there will not be another red State primary for 8 or 20 more.

Yet, there is no "establishment" party pushing "moderates".

130 8 or 10, damn typo

131 Mitt is my third choice. Problem is I don't have a first or second. So that's who I'm voting for on the 21st

132 Vic TheState.com has it.... also comments kind of flying on the front page story about Colbert wanting to pay $500,000 to sponsor the Republican primary if... they put his PAC name on it...gawd... Pro-Perry comments on the bus tour story....

133 They must have posted it after I went through early this morning about 5 am.

134 >>Hockeyfights.com already has two of the fights up. woah...
Posted by: tasker at January 07, 2012 02:57 PM (r2PLg)

_{Bruins announcer just said "These 2 teams really dislike each other, sincerely".}

135 "Newt is a brilliant guy with ADD and too much baggage:"

True.  Still the least bad after Perry.  Perry's main problem is politician rather than skills and performance and policies, and Newt's is his baggage, much of it his own big mouth.  The more I've paid attention to him again, the less I've liked him.

Santorum... no experience and on the really important philosophical issues (for me) he's not even conservative.

Jon has been RINO on many things, but has experience and has been conservative on some things.  Doesn't matter.  He's not going to be nominated by the GOP after openly loathing it.

Romney is terrible on policies and flip flops, so I have no clue where he stands on anything (only a willing mark would look at his current policy statements as relevant).  But he's got more executive experience and probably is the best politician (he should take that as an insult).

All of them are better than Obama, and none of them measure up.  If Perry had managed to be a good politician, he would have measured up, and if he's running when it's time to vote, I think I'll vote Perry.  All the other guys are too much of a compromise to believe in.

But I'll stand on principle until the primary is over and then probably wind up grumbling for the inevitable RINO.

136 133: Yeah, I am toying with emigrate if worst comes and Barry gets re-elected. Don't see any new Americas to go to though.

137 Think Sawyer will hit the "medicine" again?

Does she ever stop?

138

Santorum's on C-Span right now giving some speech (TV's on mute).  Fucking-A, he's got little fringy bangs and is wearing another fucking sweater vest.

It's like in Deadmen Don't Wear Plaid .... sweater vests!!!!!

139 It's absolutely amazing to me that the field could be so horrible that Jon Huntsman - JON FUCKING HUNTSMAN - could look kinda-sorta-not-so-horrible. This is a guy that had a bromance with and wrote fawning love letters to Barry Obuttfuck. You know what I think it is? Authenticity. He doesn't try to hide the fact that he's a moderate like the excruciatingly phony Mittens does. And unlike Mittens, he isn't afraid to actually take a position on a contentious issue like the debt ceiling. EVEN IF HIS POSITION IS DEAD WRONG, at least he has the balls to TAKE A FUCKING POSITION while Teh Mittens stands there with his finger in the wind waffling like a goddamn coward because he hasn't had time to poll-test and focus-group every possible answer! Also, unlike Mittens, he doesn't seem to feel entitled to the nomination. And no matter how big of a douchebag he seems like, he still makes my skin crawl less than Teh Mittens does.

140 Perrys still our first ( 3 voters) If we have to- Romneys our 2nd

141 All I gots to say is...

Eruliaf Elbaresim a fo Kcufretsulc Gnirettuts a si Luap Nor.

142 I'd vote for a dead cat before even considering O'bumbles...that said, I'll vote for whoever is on the R ticket.

Our concept of civilized life is rapidly approaching its terminus.

143 129 125: Bush 1 and 2.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at January 07, 2012 02:54 PM (msBSw)

Bush 1 was from all over, Texas just being one stop among many.  Sorta like a journeyman ballplayer.

Born in MA, Bush 41 was nominally "from" Texas, having made his business fortune here.  He was involved in Houston area politics over a 6 year span, as Chair of the Harris County Republican Party in '64 and representing the TX 7th CD for 2 terms starting in '66.  He was the first GOP-er to represent the  Houston area.

After losing in the 1980 Presidential primaries to Reagan, 41 sold his house in Houston and bought his grandfather's place in Kennebunkport, Maine.  Then Reagan picked him to be VP and for the next 8 years, 41 made his home in D.C., before running for President.

He could just as easily be called a Maine President as Texas President.

144 First: Rick Perry, Second: ABO

145 Romney is, was, and forever will be my last choice. I would vote for Luap Nor before I voted for Teh Mittens. I would vote for Buddy Roemer or Gary Johnson or Fred Karger or Donald Trump before I voted for the fucking waffle-master supreme.

146 " Romney is, was, and forever will be my last choice."

That's what my heart says.  Something about how fake he is.  Something about how much he craves power... all the way to his VA state chair whining that it's "not fair" to Mitt if he has to run against Newt and Perry on the ballot (and what about what's fair to this country or the voters... do they get consent?).

he wants it too bad.  He wanted it too bad in MA, too, bending over backwards to promise he'd support abortion rights "never waver"ing.  I have no clue what is in that guy's heart.

Yet, in my head, I know his true competitors remaining, other than perry, are all pretty crappy choices too, and Romney does have experience.  It's basically like I'm being asked to vote for Richard Nixon over Barack Obama.  I guess I can do that, but in my gut I have no respect for either men.

147

"I can't have Perry. I think that someone running for chief executive should have executive experience..."

You DO know that Perry is a three-term Govenor of Texas, don't you? 

148

You DO know that Perry is a three-term Govenor of Texas, don't you? 

Posted by: rabidfox at January 07, 2012 03:26 PM (yGS9B)

Do YOU know that I served in Vietnam???

149

Wouldn't it be funny if the electorate, when in the booth facing the moment of truth with this GOP field, punched the ballot for Perry even though "he's out of the running" and thereby ensured his nomination?

 

 

Well, a moron can dream can't he?  Also dreaming of a certain buoyant redhead becoming Our Mrs. de Monet.

150

#155 John Kerry, you DO know that I was responding to the crack about Huntsman and Romney being the only two with governing experience.

151 #156 Does that certain red-head know of your intentions?  Good luck!

152 "

You DO know that Perry is a three-term Govenor of Texas, don't you? 

Posted by: rabidfox at January 07, 2012 03:26 PM (yGS9B)"

He phrased it badly.  He's saying he can't have Perry, but he wants someone else with executive experience, at least.

153 Perry first. 

I think Newt is still my second.  I know there are problems with him, but I've seen no positive case for Santorum and I don't trust Mitt or Huntsman, not just on their instincts but on their ability to actually accomplish anything of note in DC. 

If someone wants to put forth the positive case for Santorum, I'll listen. 

154 Ah .. sounds like Andy is afraid of the truth ..

155 If someone wants to put forth the positive case for Santorum, I'll listen. 

Posted by: Y-not misses Texas at January 07, 2012 03:45 PM (5H6zj)

What's the negative case for Santorum other than he's never been a Governor? Neither has Newt. On Social Issues he is no different than Bush 43 was & he got elected twice.

156 BTW I don't buy into the idea Santorum "Just got lucky". You need to put yourself into a position to get lucky and when you do to take advantage of it. Perry, Cain & Newt all "got lucky" and crashed and burned of their own accord. The positive case for Sanotorum? The man's a player and he's got serious game.

157 Perry and Gingrich are simply terrible candidates, and Ron Paul is a nutter. Santorum can't win over anyone outside his social conservative base. Romney is the most electable, followed by Jon Huntsman.

158 I don't buy the electability/"can't win" argument either. The only candidate I see not likely to beat Obama is Luap Nor and that's because he not a serious candidate and doesn't really wish to be President.

159 I live in Missouri, so it doesn't matter.  The Feb. 7 primary is a non-binding beauty contest.  The caucuses on Mar. 17 just pick county representatives to the district caucuses, which pick representatives to the state caucus, which picks the GOP convention delegates.

Missouri will go with Romney, since he's the Establishment Republican candidate.  If I bothered to go to the county caucuses, I'd advocate for Palin, and yes, I know she's not a candidate.

I'm not even going to bother voting in the primary, since there's no point, my vote won't matter anyway.

160 Perry, Newt followed by the ugly kid on My Three Sons with the buck teeth and glasses.

161 Huntsman can screw himself after his initial statements about 'people that don't believe in science' if they don't buy the Globull Warming scam.

162 The positive case for Sanotorum? The man's a player and he's got serious game.
----
A little vague. 

Well, who am I kidding, really vague. 

I know Perry's core things, the biggest being rolling back the size and scope of the federal government, decreasing taxes, and improving the regulatory environment for business.  I don't know that for Santorum.  I know he has some core values on social issues, but don't see him campaigning on a vision for this country that is appreciably different than Romney's, which is basically a Republican version of the status quo.

Newt is in second for me because I believe he would wage - and win - a couple of big battles for conservatives.  The rest would be more liberal than I like, but I believe he has demonstrated the ability to beat the DC Democrats.  I really haven't seen that from Santorum. 

163 Oh, and I should add that Perry is the only one of the candidates whom I would really like to see as Commander in Chief. 

164 This reminds me of the Lion In Winter 1) Romney as Richard the Lionhearted (he'd just take it anyway) 2) Gingrich as the scheming Geoffrey 3) Perry as poor, poor John

165 If I have to I will fall back to zombie Reagan.

Anyway, the elections mean nothing anymore. Look at what the Republicans are allowing Obama to get away with. Plus, they gave him NDAA.

What is up with the US downsizing the military and increasing Obama's civilian force? Plus, Obama is currently making room in Gitmo for some new detainees. I wonder who they will be?

166

@13

 

Ron Paul isn't in the poll because this poll is about second choices.  He's not a second choice.  He is a first choice for a few people and a never choice for the rest apparently.

167

none of the above, i'll settle for Santorum because his natural instinct is conservative (although he is a bit prone to disregarding it)

next in line: (unfortunately) Ron Paul

 

hell, i'd even vote for Lydon LaRouche before i voted for RomNewPerry

168

now if we're talking zombies:

zombie Calvin Coolidge gets my vote.

169 @13: Ron Paul isn't in here because nobody who would vote for Paul would have him as their SECOND choice.

170 1)Perry
2)Gingrich
3)Romney (grrrrrrrr)
4) ABO (actually #1)

171 If you could administer truth serum after the fact, how many of the people who voted here actually selected their #1? My guess would be somewhere over 50%.

172 I wanted Newt for the single reason of seeing him utterly destroy that stuttering marxist douche tool in the debates. On the other hand, Romney  I think probably can beat obama, because the wishy washy self important feckless independents will probably vote for him the most out of the other candidates, and the conservatives will have to come to their senses and vote for him for the single reason of sending obama into exile for the sake of the nation. In the end I'll vote for king tut's 3000 year old mummified last turd over obama.

173 I went ahead and voted Santorum, mainly because Colmes and Robinson really, REALLY pissed me off.  I don't really like any of the guys left on the island, and haven't really processed my various dislikes to come up with the guy I dislike the least---but any of them will be better than SCOAMF.

174 If you could administer truth serum after the fact, how many of the people who voted here actually selected their #1? My guess would be somewhere over 50%.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 07, 2012 04:52 PM (Gc/Qi)

Not me...I'm with Perry at least thru SC; voted for Newt on this thing.

175 "Huntsman can screw himself after his initial statements about 'people that don't believe in science' if they don't buy the Globull Warming scam.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 07, 2012 04:29 PM (UU0OF)"

Not a Huntsman fan, but this is exactly what a lot of people said about Perry.

'oh no, he pissed me off, so I'll reject my 99% ally completely'.

That's why Mccain and Romney win.  We conservatives split to the four winds and the littls segment of RINOs stick to their RINO who can say basically whatever he wants because his merit is this 'electability' and 'he's dreamy' stuff.

So while yes, indeed, Huntsman should go screw himself, I think that's the wrong way to judge candidates (Searching for a heresy to reject each over).

176 Of the choices left, I'd rank em thus:

Santorum, Perry, Newt, ,Romney, Huntsman, Laup Nor, Obama.

So I'm thinking the unthinkable.  Although I really can't see a way for Laup to actually get the nomination I think I would have to chance Congress being able to reign him in.  Obama must go.  A week ago I'd have sat out the election before voting for Crazy Ron but Obama just keeps doubling down on the lawless crap.

And no, I'm not just jumping on a bandwagon.  I have only made one small contribution so far and it was way back at the start after Santorum's first FNS appearance.  Held out hope for Perry when he got in, still hope he can pull off a miracle, but he is looking more and more like this cycle's Teh Fred!

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I can understand this blog's enthusiasm for Gov. Perry, but I'm disturbed by the idea that the new Beavis & Butthead is better than the original. It's like I'm having to reevaluate everything this week.

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He's dummer than I originally thought, but he seems pretty sane.

The only one that's really batshit crazy is Ron Paul.  Sometimes I wonder if he could actually pass the Turing test.  All of them are defectives in one way or another though.

183 I could live with Santorum, and I could force myself to vote for Gingrich or Romney. Not one of them really lights my fire or makes me smile.

184 Oh and I'd put up with Huntsman even know I know for certain he'd never roll back anything Obama has done. he probably would even veto attempts to do so.

185 I'd just like to assure everyone that I wouldn't call O'bama a socialist.

186 Did Jon Huntsman's own people make the attack ad against him so they could blame Ron Paul! That is what Paul's people are now saying. This pretty wild.

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A local poll in NH has 'luap nor' in second place...

Will he win? Prolly not...but... just outside the 'margin of error' in Iowa, and some polls now have him running second in NH...

 Even if he only pulls 10% of the voters at the actual polls, you're being fools by marginalizing those voters, folks.

 (Find yer own link...)

188 OMG. We are screwed.

189 To those of you pooh-poohing the idea that Palin would have been a better candidate: Take a long, sober, serious, honest look at the field. Do you really think she could have done any worse?

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A local poll in NH has 'luap nor' in second place...

Will he win? Prolly not...but... just outside the 'margin of error' in Iowa, and some polls now have him running second in NH...

Even if he only pulls 10% of the voters at the actual polls, you're being fools by marginalizing those voters, folks.

(Find yer own link...)

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at January 07, 2012 07:40 PM (E7Z1r)

 

that's what i've been trying to say for months, if we want a bigger tent enlarge it to fit the libertarians, not feckless and politically ignorant independents.

libertarians aren't socialists, independents don't know who the fuck they are or what the fuck they believe.

 

191 The best thing that could happen is for Romney to sew up the nomination and then people can start fundraising and campaigning for Congress, where the ideas and policies really should be coming from. Down with Stabenow!

192 The best thing that could happen is for Romney to sew up the nomination

Is this based on assuming the 40% dead set against Romney will reverse course and vote for him after all?

193 If Perry is most everyone's SECOND choice, who the F was the FIRST choice?

194 That is useful information and its quite easy to come a croper if you are not vigilant.

195 Cummins, Fleetguard, Perkins, Caterpillar, Daewoo, Deutz,
 Volvo, Lovol, Isuzu,MTU, and domestic famous
 engine providers including Shangchai, Weifang,
Jichai, Yuchai etc

196 Perry then Romney.

Santorum, if I must, as a second, but I can't see Romney dropping out so...

197 If Perry is most everyone's SECOND choice, who the F was the FIRST choice?

You can imagine that there are a number of people who will cast a vote for their candidate in all positions with the idea in mind that their candidate not being a nominee is too awful to imagine.

198 If I can suspend belief and believe Perry et al are any different than the current crop of assholes, why can't I suspend belief and believe Luap Nor is not crazy as a loon.

199 Perry is an idiot.  He wants to send troops back to Iraq.  Today he is knocking Mitt The Capitalist.  This guy is a complete boob.  I could only vote for him over Obama.  I know he is a doer - not a talker.  He should be cleaning toilets at Jerry Jones' stadium.