April 26, 2012
— Ace Supposedly this was all an accident.
And yet the same identical false edits were created both at NBC/NY HQ (for the Today show) and down at the NBC Miami affiliate.
An unnamed source at NBC6/Miami indicates that NBC really isn't sorry at all:
“The network is very sensitive about the whole Al Sharpton/MSNBC issue, so when the right-wing bloggers started hammering, they needed to throw them fresh meat,” said the station source, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the controversy. “It’s not at all clear how this happened. Obviously, there was miscommunication.”
So NBC didn't fire anyone because they thought they committed a firable offense -- they just wanted to appease "right-wing bloggers" with some "fresh meat" due to their being "sensitive" about the "Al Sharpton/MSNBC issue."
Meanwhile, Reuters begins to correct the egregiously misreported story of George Zimmerman.
Based on extensive interviews with relatives, friends, neighbors, schoolmates and co-workers of Zimmerman in two states, law enforcement officials, and reviews of court documents and police reports, the story sheds new light on the man at the center of one of the most controversial homicide cases in America.The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather – the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.
A criminal justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men.
Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.
“Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. I’m black, OK?” the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. “There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood,” she said. “That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.”
Duh.
Anyway, so now Zimmerman might be okay because he's partly black himself? This continues the disgusting pattern of determining guilt or innocence based on Racial Status. I'm glad for Zimmerman that this bit of genetic inheritance might help him -- but is this what America is now? Essentially deciding guilt or innocence by a racial mitichlorian count?
Over at the American Spectator, John Hayward recapitulates the egregious lynch-mob "reporting" here.
Why did the media push a story so completely at variance with the picture Reuters paints of Zimmerman in this extensive profile? My guess is a combination of the hunger for sensationalism, a political agenda, and pure laziness. There was a time when such a major story would have called for more shoe leather, and less reliance upon press releases from interested parties.
Oh, let me offer a couple of more reasons:
Despite the fact that the media claims to be above the blogs, they do in fact consume and trust blogs -- Leftwing blogs. Although we on the right think we've done something awesome when we push a true story into the MSM, leftwing blogs have far, far more influence on the media. After all-- they can get false stories into the MSM.
And cowardice. You know the "elephant in the room" that black woman mentioned? Yeah, the media -- brave and dauntless in its pursuit of truth -- is too cowardly to mention slightly discomforting facts, like the pattern of robberies committed by teenaged black boys in the neighborhood.
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Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 26, 2012 07:24 AM (gPDxp)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 26, 2012 07:26 AM (gPDxp)
Try squirrel
Anything except the economy.
Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2012 07:27 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 07:27 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 26, 2012 07:28 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: fluffy, true believer at April 26, 2012 07:28 AM (z9HTb)
"It's good medicine that cures many ills." Or, in this case, "It's a good story that fulfills multiple objectives."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 07:28 AM (8y9MW)
It's spelled "midichlorian," Ace, with a 'D.' Also, I've trademarked that word [like I did with 'droid'(tm)] and you owe me 100 quatloos for each use, but I'll waive it this time since we want you in the Star Wars live-action series we're still not sure how to pay for.
Posted by: George Lucas at April 26, 2012 07:28 AM (zgHLA)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 26, 2012 07:30 AM (L7hol)
Did that accused (but innocent) Atalanta bomber ever sue anyone?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 26, 2012 07:31 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Diet gurus in places with no extradition treaty at April 26, 2012 07:31 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: MSM at April 26, 2012 07:31 AM (sEFBQ)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 26, 2012 07:32 AM (RD7QR)
269 Days Until We Evict the SCOAMF
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:32 AM (7yVhX)
Posted by: David Axlerod at April 26, 2012 07:32 AM (/ZZCn)
Oh shit, he's a Jedi, too? Why didn't he just mind-trick Martin into leaving the neighborhood?
Unless Martin was a Sith...
...waitaminute...
...dark side...hood...skittles...
...it's all starting to makes sense now.
George Lucas should be tried and hanged.
Posted by: Sgt. York at April 26, 2012 07:32 AM (cGPup)
I have a crazy libtard friend who got all up in my grill over this.
I've taken the approach of "I want a trier of Fact to figure this out and I'll go with that they/he/she/it says." (Seems to me the only option left to avoid being thrown in with the wolves.)
I couldn't even get him to agree to that. I stopped talking to him after that.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2012 07:32 AM (22rSN)
So NBC didn't fire anyone because they thought they committed a firable offense -- they just wanted to appease "right-wing bloggers" with some "fresh meat" due to their being "sensitive" about the "Al Sharpton/MSNBC issue."
That's gonna do wonders for staff morale at NBC, knowing that you're just cannon fodder. *snicker*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 26, 2012 07:34 AM (tQoT4)
Posted by: huerfano at April 26, 2012 07:35 AM (bAGA/)
And if I was the Police Chief in that town? The guy who has been tar'd and feathered by the Race baiters, Press, and DOJ???
For doing his job CORRECTLY?
Lawsuit city....
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 26, 2012 07:35 AM (lZBBB)
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SKITTLES?!
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 26, 2012 07:35 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 26, 2012 07:35 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:36 AM (7yVhX)
Posted by: Whores, Hermaphrodites, and Lickspittles at April 26, 2012 07:36 AM (cYMja)
Posted by: Infidelswine at April 26, 2012 07:36 AM (yOjZO)
And if I was the Police Chief in that town? The guy who has been tar'd and feathered by the Race baiters, Press, and DOJ???
He tendered his resignation, and the city fathers and mothers wouldn't accept it.
Heh.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 26, 2012 07:37 AM (d0Tfm)
Facts sometimes have to be set aside for the greater good.
Posted by: MSM at April 26, 2012 11:31 AM (sEFBQ)
The Greater Good.....The Greater Good.......The Greater Good
Posted by: Neighborhood Watch Alliance, Sandford, Gloucestershire at April 26, 2012 07:37 AM (tQoT4)
First the mania, then the crash, then ... cat blogging.
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2012 07:38 AM (NG097)
Almost as sad as Zimmerman's total railroading by the media is his black neighbor's fear of coming forward in his defense because she fears reprisal. I guess "Snitches get stitches" isn't just for protecting gang members anymore.
“There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood,” she said. “That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.”
From what we've learned of Trayvon thus far -- which isn't much, given that his family is intent on preserving his image as a saintly little angel -- is there any reason to believe that Zimmerman wasn't justified in suspecting him? Is there any reason to believe that Trayvon HADN'T been one of the black youths breaking into homes in the neighborhood? That doesn't mean that he deserved to be shot and killed, and we won't know whether that was justified until after all the evidence comes out. But it DOES mean that, far from going after Trayvon solely because he was black, Zimmerman was watching Martin because he fit the description of known malfeasants in the neighborhood. Race may be a factor in that description, but it is not the SOLE factor.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 07:38 AM (4df7R)
I am sympathetic to your greater point, but have no doubt they had all seen his picture and knew from the beginning.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:38 AM (7yVhX)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 07:38 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: jeanne...meh at April 26, 2012 07:39 AM (GdalM)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 07:39 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 26, 2012 11:34 AM (tQoT4)
That excuse is BS. They know they effed up, so they're pulling a 'look over there....right wing bloggers!'.
Posted by: Tami at April 26, 2012 07:39 AM (X6akg)
Ace, you've been on fire the past few days.
Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at April 26, 2012 07:39 AM (8ac7j)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (4df7R)
4 -
I think you are correct. Even the word "down" is wrong, wasn't he gunned UP? As in, the gun was needed to force Martin up and off?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (TOk1P)
You said "malfeasant", but I heard "malfeasant, boy". Also I don't know what malfeasant means.
Posted by: Maureen Dowdy at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (7yVhX)
Yeah thats what neighborhood watchers do.
Yeah, let's very conveniently dismiss and omit the initial cause of all this, shall we, MFM?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (NG097)
Posted by: Whoopies big fat Cusion at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (eavT+)
So TWO MONTHS after this alleged "crime" happened, and Reuters is just now bothering to do what they should have done before running with the story.
NBC and the rest of the MSM need to understand that when they are forced to retract their stories that "right-wing bloggers" aren't "forcing" them to do anything other than THE JOB THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
But a guilty black yute doesn't fit their narrative of the noble minority, and they (the MSM) don't have the moral fortitude to stand up and tell their peers that they are responsible for reporting the facts, however uncomfortable they might be.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (0xqzf)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 26, 2012 07:40 AM (jUytm)
When you are on the side of Good™, all opposition is by definition Bad©. Leftism takes the worst parts of religion and grafts them onto secular life. They'll claim fact and reason when convenient, and even when inconvenient.
You'll never be able to 'prove' them wrong. The best you can hope for is to achieve that other 60's era Progressive mode, 'heighten the dissonance.'
Odd how so many of their own tools for tearing at civilization work wonders on their own worldview.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 26, 2012 07:41 AM (ebPtk)
I heard about that and thought it was awesome. It seems the good folk of Sanford aren't buying the crap, either.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 07:41 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: garrett at April 26, 2012 07:41 AM (vEysG)
Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2012 07:41 AM (OlN4e)
Biden via @thefix on dah Twittah
"I promise you. The President has a big stick." -- Joe Biden.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 26, 2012 07:42 AM (pLTLS)
This was more than just a 'distraction'....I think.
The Breitbart tapes were released, showing Barky's obsession with Critical Race Theory. ......Barky was getting mocked and ridiculed for being neurotically obsessed with an outdated predilection to seeing racial prejudices in everything.
He had to do something....fast....to show that racism against black people was alive and well.
So this story, that was already over....was resurrected, and whipped into a big National Outrage. ....So, while yes, it served as a big distraction....it was also a distraction that was designed to give credence to Barky's racial outlook.
And NBC....being Barky's main propaganda arm, had to doctor the 911 tapes to forward the meme that they were given to promote. ....They were following the directive that they were given.
Posted by: wheatie at April 26, 2012 07:42 AM (O4AQQ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 26, 2012 07:42 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2012 07:42 AM (NG097)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 07:43 AM (SB0V2)
[no, they didn't. I promise you that. I saw the story first in Babble and it was going around lefty blogs first - they had no pic when they started with it
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 11:39 AM (SB0V2) [/i]
^^This^^
I know when I first heard the story on the radio, there was no mention of GZ's race or anything. All they gave was his name. They gave TRAYVON'S race, however. So of course my first thought was, "A middle-aged white Jew just killed a young black man." And that's exactly what the MFM was thinking, too.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 07:43 AM (4df7R)
They just can't get over the fact that we are talking amongst ourselves so easily and publicly now.
Posted by: jeanne...meh at April 26, 2012 07:44 AM (GdalM)
o sweet blue hens, he is the gift that keeps on giving!
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 11:43 AM (SB0V2)
Oh, just you wait!
Posted by: Joe "Deep Throat" Biden at April 26, 2012 07:44 AM (Aaxiu)
"I promise you. The President has a big stick." -- Joe Biden.
It attaches with velcro and a few straps. I keep it in my nightstand.
He calls it BO.
Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at April 26, 2012 07:44 AM (vEysG)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 11:39 AM (SB0V2)
I'll take your word for it. To me it's just not a long jump from "edit these tapes down to say something they don't" to "pretend the guy is white even though we've seen his picture".
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:44 AM (7yVhX)
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2012 07:44 AM (NG097)
A news bimbo that Treacher was harassing suddenyl stopping tweeting on Apr 10th, right after he made her look like an imbecile.
But ace, why not include as motivation the human traits of ego and greed?
That audio was torn apart for sensationalistic value, and what does that imply? It implies that they wanted a story to cover...these whores pull this shit a lot.
They are liars in the service of gaining ground in the shitty world of news.
It's either that or blowjobs.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzzbunny at April 26, 2012 07:44 AM (ApGOC)
Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2012 07:45 AM (5H6zj)
>>>I'm glad for Zimmerman that this bit of genetic inheritance might help him -- but is this what America is now? Essentially deciding guilt or innocence by a racial mitichlorian count?<<<
That is what the first post-racial President has made America into.
Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2012 07:45 AM (OlN4e)
Yes. It was deliberate. It's actually called 'misinformation' or more accurately, 'propaganda'.
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 26, 2012 07:45 AM (8sCoq)
sometimes it's very very easy to be right
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 26, 2012 07:45 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 07:46 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2012 07:46 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Y-not at April 26, 2012 11:45 AM (5H6zj)
Hmmm....on the Chernobyl anniversary.
Posted by: Tami at April 26, 2012 07:46 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 07:47 AM (8y9MW)
please all freedom lovers call your congressmen and urge them to vote NO on HR 3523, otherwise known as CISPA, they could vote on it today, please call now.
Posted by: Sgt. Schultz at April 26, 2012 07:47 AM (jdOk/)
I heard about that and thought it was awesome. It seems the good folk of Sanford aren't buying the crap, either.
Yeah, that was great and way past due. I'm still waiting for the state of Florida to issue warrants for the NBPP'ers who placed the bounty "dead or alive" on GZ.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 26, 2012 07:47 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2012 07:47 AM (1Jaio)
I feel they buried who he was so they could inflame racial tensions and then once inflamed, release his picture and tell everyone he was a "white hispanic". A bunch of outlets even whitened his picture.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:48 AM (7yVhX)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 07:48 AM (8y9MW)
The story is still incorrect, saying Zimmerman "disregarded police advice against pursuing Martin." Not true; he was told they "didn't need him to do that." Thats totally different than being advised not to follow.
Posted by: AnthonyB at April 26, 2012 07:48 AM (PDTch)
Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2012 07:48 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 26, 2012 07:48 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:49 AM (7yVhX)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2012 07:49 AM (jucos)
Ace.....what day was it that the Liveblogging of 'Space Traders' was done?
Because it seems to me, that this whole Zimmerman-Trayvon story popped up within a week of that. .....While it's true that the Left Wing Blogs have an influence on the DNCmedia......I would submit, that the Conservative Blogs have an effect on them too. .....A knee-jerk effect.
Posted by: wheatie at April 26, 2012 07:49 AM (O4AQQ)
Posted by: AnthonyB at April 26, 2012 11:48 AM (PDTch)
And there is as yet no evidence to contradict his claim that he stopped following Martin and was on his way back to his SUV.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 07:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 26, 2012 07:49 AM (Dll6b)
What'd he say?
I said, "The President has a big d*ck!"
Posted by: Gabby Johnson at April 26, 2012 07:50 AM (PMGbu)
Mobile Alabama thugs yelling "Justice for Trayvon" while beating Owens were not motivated by Martin's case, according to Mobile police making first arrest.
C'mon NBC. 'Splain it to us.
Posted by: Obama Ate the Dog SCOAMF at April 26, 2012 07:50 AM (lpWVn)
You guys just listen to Ted Nugent on Beck's show?
The fuckers in gov't are really coming after him - for nonsense little shit.
Plus, Harry Reid put something in a bill yesterday that allows the IRS to seize your house and guns if they ACCUSE you of owing more than 50,000 bucks in back taxes?!
Welcome to the Dictatorship. You are ours.
Posted by: momma at April 26, 2012 07:50 AM (oKsWl)
We need to kill this, ASAP.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 07:50 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:50 AM (7yVhX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 26, 2012 07:50 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: runner at April 26, 2012 07:51 AM (WR5xI)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2012 11:49 AM (jucos)
yes, the the bozos who stirred up that Hate ain't gonna let go or admit anything. ---snitches end up in ditches
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 26, 2012 07:51 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 07:52 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: Antitarian at April 26, 2012 11:49 AM (60GaT)
I would agree with you, Antitarian, except for the fact that the media's complicity in all this has generated ACTUAL lynch mobs who want GZ dead. The NBPP bounty on his head is just the most audacious and high profile example. But all you have to do is go on Twitter and search for his name.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 07:52 AM (4df7R)
And cowardice. You know the "elephant in the room" that black woman mentioned? Yeah, the media -- brave and dauntless in its pursuit of truth -- is too cowardly to mention slightly discomforting facts, like the pattern of robberies committed by teenaged black boys in the neighborhood.<<<<
I disagree. I don't think it's cowardice at all. I think it's a carefully considered decision to exclude mitigating factors because if that was mentioned, then you might think the wrong thoughts.
Namely, that Zimmerman, or ANYONE, may have been justified in both A) being understandably suspicious of an unknown black male in a neighborhood preyed upon by black males, and B) using a firearm to defend himself.
The first is an automatic sin. There will be no discussion of race outside of the media-approved format of Blacks as victims and Whites as oppressors.
The second is also axiomatic: citizens cannot be trusted with firearms and should not be allowed to own them. Showing that, in fact, they are tools that in this instance and many others, SAVE lives, runs counter to the liberal orthodoxy.
CALCULATION, not cowardice. I fear mislabeling them encourages us to underestimate them.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 26, 2012 07:52 AM (4ZNCv)
Posted by: Clemenza at April 26, 2012 07:52 AM (d6oco)
The story was timed to blow up the week the desperately unpopular ObamaCare went under the SC knife. Bambi made his inflammatory comment on Friday afternoon. The hearings started the following Monday morning.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 26, 2012 07:52 AM (7yVhX)
The media idiots just couldn't call him Hispanic, they had to make up a new term cuz it sounded more inciting--excuse me, exciting, I'm sure I meant to say.
And lo and behold, their made-up term was exactly wrong. Who'd have thunk it?
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 26, 2012 07:53 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: lolobama at April 26, 2012 07:53 AM (jUytm)
"Oh, let me offer a couple of more reasons:
Despite the fact that the media claims to be above the blogs, they do in fact consume and trust blogs -- Leftwing blogs. Although we on the right think we've done something awesome when we push a true story into the MSM, leftwing blogs have far, far more influence on the media. After all-- they can get false stories into the MSM."
This is so true. I browse leftwing blogs and both the Sandra Fluke and Trayvon Martin controversies were discussed a few days/week before they made it into the National media. Pandagon and Feministe had them both, I think.
The takeaway is that the "narrative" and reporting angles ("this is about an intersection of race and white privilege) get formed in these echo chambers, and then are pre-packaged when they make National news. I have no doubt that writers and editors are participants/commentators on these blogs.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 26, 2012 07:54 AM (mg08E)
--
Hillary's "vast right-wing conspiracy" was reset by Obama, Holder & DHS-Napolitano into what set of words in the press?
/hearing it made me so angry, I chose to put it out of mind.
Posted by: Obama Ate the Dog SCOAMF at April 26, 2012 07:54 AM (lpWVn)
C'mon NBC. 'Splain it to us.
Posted by: Obama Ate the Dog SCOAMF at April 26, 2012 11:50 AM (lpWVn)
Of course not comrade. They were referring to Trayvon Whiteman. A cracker so there is no hate crime either
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2012 07:54 AM (1Jaio)
Um, pretty sure any backlash wouldn't be due to her race, but her pointing out inconvenient facts.
Posted by: booger at April 26, 2012 07:54 AM (HI6wa)
It's disgusting and makes me ashamed that this beautiful country would give this as it's forward foot to the world.
Posted by: © Sponge at April 26, 2012 07:54 AM (UK9cE)
Nobody talks about the elephant in the room.
They also don't talk about the dog in the room. And we all know why, don't we?
Posted by: Roy at April 26, 2012 07:54 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: John Morris at April 26, 2012 07:55 AM (sCRhB)
Yeah, two posts down.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 26, 2012 07:55 AM (ebPtk)
Posted by: NBC News at April 26, 2012 07:55 AM (QKKT0)
92 -
Also, it wasn't "police advice," it was 911 dispatcher advice. The difference is important.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2012 07:55 AM (TOk1P)
They just can't get over the fact that we are talking amongst ourselves so easily and publicly now.
The media is even more clueless about the millions of lurkers reading.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 26, 2012 07:55 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: lolobama at April 26, 2012 07:56 AM (jUytm)
There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved
Posted by: Hedgehog at April 26, 2012 07:56 AM (3jGS1)
Posted by: porthuronpunk at April 26, 2012 07:56 AM (D5ZaN)
Posted by: Cicero at April 26, 2012 07:56 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2012 07:56 AM (jucos)
Always remember that ambulance-chasing Benjamin Crump is the one who called Al Sharpton's radio show trying to drum up OUTRAGE!!!!! for this case several weeks after it had been resolved.
Had it not been for the Crump/Sharpton tag-teaming this to stir up publicity to line their own personal coffers, most people never would have heard about this.
And where is Mr. Sharpton now? Anyone seen him since the mobs got out of control?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 26, 2012 07:56 AM (0xqzf)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at April 26, 2012 07:57 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: booger at April 26, 2012 11:54 AM (HI6wa)
There WOULD be backlash due to her race. Backlash from fellow blacks who'd view her as an Aunt Jemima race traitor.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 07:57 AM (4df7R)
And....so much for the "self-appointed neighborhood watch captain" narrative as well.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 07:57 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: tasker at April 26, 2012 07:57 AM (r2PLg)
****
UNCLE TOM!!!!!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 07:57 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Michael K. at April 26, 2012 07:57 AM (H6VxR)
Posted by: Liberals have no soul at April 26, 2012 07:57 AM (HOOye)
Posted by: tasker at April 26, 2012 07:58 AM (r2PLg)
>>My Iphone now auto-completes SCOAMF when texting.
One of the funniest web sites I've ever seen is "Damn You Auto-Correct". Although some of the stories in the "Best of DYAC" are sad...
Anywho, one can cause mischief for others by setting their phones to auto correct common words to other words that one would not use in polite company.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 26, 2012 07:59 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Hedgehog at April 26, 2012 11:56 AM (3jGS1)
That was either Al Shapton or Jessie Jackson, they're the same in my mind, so I can't remember.
In either case, depending on where I'm walking I don't feel safe if it's a white person either. Hell, I hear footsteps and see a black guy in a fancy suite behind me I feel much better than when I see some 20th something white kid looking like he just crawled out of a gutter.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2012 07:59 AM (22rSN)
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SKITTLES?!
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 26, 2012 11:35 AM (RSqz2)
Dude, bonus question - where is the interview with the convenience store clerk? The video surveillance footage? I mean, come on. They have footage of high school rioters stealing skittles from the CVS, but not Trayvon? I am skeptical.
Posted by: Joe at April 26, 2012 08:00 AM (Aaxiu)
Posted by: Average Joe at April 26, 2012 08:00 AM (zZe5q)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 26, 2012 08:00 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: maddogg at April 26, 2012 11:57 AM (OlN4e)
Ding ding ding, we have a weener. File this in the "imagine if a white guy said this"
folder. Why the fuck anyone listens to these racist pricks is beyond me.
Posted by: Hedgehog at April 26, 2012 08:01 AM (3jGS1)
down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery,
then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved
Posted by: Hedgehog at April 26, 2012 11:56 AM (3jGS1)
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Depends on what neighborhood you're in. Ever been in downtown Lancaster, PA?? Those Amish are fricken MENACING!!!
Posted by: dananjcon at April 26, 2012 08:01 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: anywhere they can make a buck at April 26, 2012 08:01 AM (HOOye)
Ding ding ding, we have a weener. File this in the "imagine if a white guy said this" folder. Why the fuck anyone listens to these racist pricks is beyond me.
Posted by: Hedgehog at April 26, 2012 12:01 PM (3jGS1)
And that's literal in the case of Jesse. I can never understand a frigging word he says! He's worse than the worst Brando impersonation EVER.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 08:03 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: St. Rachel Corrie, Now Found On The Road To Gaza at April 26, 2012 08:03 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Anachronda thinks he's clever at April 26, 2012 08:03 AM (IrbU4)
Posted by: OxyCon at April 26, 2012 08:03 AM (ur8o6)
Short version, Democrats will not grow up and face reality as long as Obama is in charge of their party.
This is the best behaved Republicans have been since 1994. Paul Ryan is a selfless and brilliant guy and the republicans are willing to harm their parties image and strength to save the Social Safety net from ripping apart under the weight of the debt.
The democrats are the worst behaved, in my life time. The nicest way to put it is they are still in the denial/blame stage of the collapse of their post FDR blue model under its own weight. The "unintended" catastrophes of the welfare state are now a bigger then many of the problems it set out to solve, like the collapse of the black family or children graduating from a decade and half of constant education barely able to read or write, in spite of all time record spending into "educational" apparatus.
I don't think Democrats will grow up and face reality, or do anything but leverage even the Republicans Hail Marys to save the blue state model, leverage it against them for electoral advantage, (DWS-Mediscare campaign etc..) as long as Obama is in charge of their party. The bitchy left Wailed and gnashed when Clinton and Gingrich reformed welfare and now that wing of the party is in total control.
Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 26, 2012 08:04 AM (RfvTE)
And....so much for the "self-appointed neighborhood watch captain" narrative as well.
That's another aspect to this case that hasn't been covered much. There are Florida laws that specifically cover members of a NW, and IIRC, little Trayvon (of the gang tats and gold grill) violated a couple of them.
That's what is so disgusting about this whole thing. We've heard nearly everything except the truth. There is a reason why GZ wasn't charged immediately afterwards. Do you think for one minute that with someone dead the city, county and state prosecutors offices weren't notified?
Every bit of this stinks to high heaven.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 26, 2012 08:04 AM (d0Tfm)
Didn't Juan Williams says something similar?
Posted by: Jimbo at April 26, 2012 08:04 AM (O3R/2)
>>And where is Mr. Sharpton now? Anyone seen him since the mobs got out of control?
Why, it's almost like NBC gave him an ultimatum and he chose to keep getting paid!
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 26, 2012 08:05 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 26, 2012 12:00 PM (jUytm)
Seriously, there is already a task force investigating the law in FL.
Posted by: momma at April 26, 2012 08:05 AM (oKsWl)
>>Since Trayvon was found at school recently before his death with what would appear to be illegal contraband in the form of stolen woman's jewelry, I would like to know about the current crime rate in Zimmerman's former neighborhood.
Why, there can't be a connection, or some determined reporter would have found it by now.
Posted by: Mama AJ, failing at keeping a straight face at April 26, 2012 08:06 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: anywhere they can make a buck at April 26, 2012 08:07 AM (HOOye)
You got it. The Florida stand-your-ground law is written to prohibit lawsuits against a defender unless he is arrested. Having achieved a certain quality of "arrest," GZ can now be swept off the stage as a massive insurance trial goes class-action, takes years to work its way up through the appeals processes, and becomes fair game for congressional pre-emption of state law.
We will all be standing around swiping each others' cards about how great it is that George walked, while the Cabal snickers quietly up its sleeve about the massive, tobacco-company-grade power grab in progress. They'll go after the NRA, gun makers, gun shops, gun owners, until you're genuinely pleased that all we lose is the defense laws.
Posted by: Comatus at April 26, 2012 08:09 AM (ZOlM3)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 26, 2012 08:09 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2012 11:56 AM (jucos)
That's why it's critical for him to sue. He'll never get his name back. That's done and those responsible should pay dearly so he can vacation around the world for the rest of his life where no one knows his name.
Posted by: © Sponge at April 26, 2012 08:09 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: JQ Public at April 26, 2012 08:10 AM (NBj0d)
Posted by: Gushing Diane Sawyer at April 26, 2012 08:11 AM (hvibU)
>> Having achieved a certain quality of "arrest," GZ can now be swept off the stage as a massive insurance trial goes class-action, takes years to work its way up through the appeals processes, and becomes fair game for congressional pre-emption of state law.
Is there anyway to completely un-do the arrest? If a judge gets pissed enough or GZ sues or something??
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 26, 2012 08:11 AM (XdlcF)
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Which, to correct myself, creates a new narrative: Guns destroy lives!!!!!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 08:12 AM (piMMO)
As to your premise about how the left can get false stories into the MSM, there was one huge one here: The one about how neo-nazi groups were patrolling the town. Some leftie blog in FL threw that out there. Professor Jacobson makes a few phone calls and learns it's flat false. Meanwhile even Drudge is linking to the original story.
Posted by: jimmuy at April 26, 2012 08:12 AM (kSaUf)
Where's the supposed convenience store clerk statement or security tape recording establishing her fictional response, that Trayvon'd just been coming back from buying skittles 'n (alcoholic) tea to watch more tv with his dad who wasn't even at her apt. watching tv, she not being home either while Trayvon was out skulking.
Skittles and unicorns. Where's the bag of skittles -- no media photos from the scene showing skitttles and tea on the ground? Next, we'll be told that Trayvon scraped together all of his pennies to be able to afford the skittles and tea. And he was maliciously killed for having "felt he deserved" a treat after a long day of homework and chores, being an outstanding student achiever and responsible citizen by virtue of skin tone.
Justice for Trayvon requires exposing his record and life, not fabricating a fairy tale with unicorns and skittles.
Posted by: Obama Ate the Dog SCOAMF at April 26, 2012 08:12 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: StanleyJ at April 26, 2012 08:14 AM (Lz+QC)
110 Because it seems to me, that this whole Zimmerman-Trayvon story popped up within a week of that
The story was timed to blow up the week the desperately unpopular ObamaCare went under the SC knife. Bambi made his inflammatory comment on Friday afternoon. The hearings started the following Monday morning.
Oh yeah....this has deffinitely served as a big distraction. ....But it's also a 2-fer, because it is designed to give credence to Barky's obsession with racism. He had to show that it 'still exists'.
And since it's an election year, it's really sort of a 3-fer:
1) distraction
2) show that racism is still 'rampant'
3) whip up enthusiasm for getting Barky reelected
Posted by: wheatie at April 26, 2012 08:14 AM (O4AQQ)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at April 26, 2012 08:14 AM (brsDH)
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The IRS now also has the power to revoke your passport for the same offense.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 08:14 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 26, 2012 12:11 PM (XdlcF)
Arrest and jail the prosecutor and her team of idiots for abuse of power. They should all serve at least the amount of time they put Zimmerman in jeopardy of receiving.
Just like Nifong, it would be an offense against America to let these despicable, lying scumbag criminals go free (America chewed the pooch by not sailing Nifong - which was a must). To let these asswipes continue to act on behalf of the State for prosecutions would be criminal, itself.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 26, 2012 08:15 AM (X3lox)
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Have you seen the pop-art piece yet which is a portrait of GZ created from Skittles?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2012 08:15 AM (piMMO)
Shit. Barky's skank mom, Stanley, is back.
That's quite a dog-eating retard you raised (kind of raised, you didn't really like hanging around Barky - which we all understand).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 26, 2012 08:17 AM (X3lox)
I recommend you quite while you're not too far behind. I would go into the details of why you're wrong, but you'd either accuse me of lying or do the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "lalala!" so I won't waste my time.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 08:18 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 08:19 AM (8y9MW)
Yeah, and because of that it's a-ok to aggresively pursue then attack with lethal force any black teenager in your neighborhood.
Kindly go back to David Axelrod and tell him your bullshit doesn't work here.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 26, 2012 08:20 AM (d0Tfm)
173 -
Thank you for completing your questionaire. The state of Florida thanks you for your willingness to serve on the jury, but we have determined that your responses represent a prejudicial bias against the defendant, therefore we regret to inform you that you will not be selected for this case, if there is a trial. Which, there probably won't, so.... suckit!
Posted by: Jury Pool at April 26, 2012 08:22 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at April 26, 2012 08:23 AM (4df7R)
I know this 'cause I'm a community organizer that has been fighting the evil white devil honkey slavemaster all my life....
Can I get an AMEN?
Posted by: Barry O da Media Ho at April 26, 2012 08:24 AM (Jls4P)
Trayvon got justice. He was thief. He was looking for homes to rob in the rain.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 26, 2012 08:25 AM (O3R/2)
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SKITTLES?![-i]
Git it right, Cracker...it's SKILLETS!!!
Posted by: Reverand Al "race hustler" Sharpton at April 26, 2012 08:28 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: jimmuy at April 26, 2012 08:31 AM (kSaUf)
#62 They just can't get over the fact that we are talking amongst ourselves so easily and publicly now.
Oh so true - when they were fondling their little boners while reading about the "telescreens" in "1984", little did they suspect the real ones would work in the opposite direction!!
Posted by: sherlock at April 26, 2012 08:32 AM (2DD2m)
If she had left it to the grand jury, they could have gone for manslaughter. Manslaughter in the hands of an unpredictable jury could lead to a conviction and a maximum sentence. GZ's life would be miserable for a lot longer that it will be under an acquittal.
If she had not filed charges, then the rioting and the attacks would have started immediately. GZ would not obtain any justice by that route.
As it stands, we have what amounts to a cooling off period. The cretins who are demanding Z's head were partially satisfied by the prosecutor charging Z.
Posted by: Jay Bee at April 26, 2012 08:36 AM (Xwgt3)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at April 26, 2012 08:41 AM (1zwZo)
"Bill Cosby."
I know now this treflon case has polarized race in this area. It's also shown Barack for the what he really is. We watch our dogs carefully now!
Posted by: HEP-T at April 26, 2012 08:51 AM (R3KSb)
Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at April 26, 2012 08:55 AM (z1C58)
At 17 can't the parents be charged with neglect or something allowing him to roam unsupervised through the neighborhood? I mean hell, if trevyon had been hit by a car or something the DFACS would be all over them.
Posted by: HEP-T at April 26, 2012 08:56 AM (R3KSb)
Posted by: HEP-T at April 26, 2012 08:58 AM (R3KSb)
As it stands, we have what amounts to a cooling off period. The cretins who are demanding Z's head were partially satisfied by the prosecutor charging Z.
Posted by: Jay Bee at April 26, 2012 12:36 PM (Xwgt3)
That's called, Ochlocracy.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 26, 2012 09:06 AM (X3lox)
"Bill Cosby."
Jesse Jackson.
"There's nothing more painful at this point in my life than ..."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 26, 2012 09:08 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 26, 2012 09:08 AM (1hM1d)
Well, he should have known not to use his good name to begin with - had he used his Afro-Peruvian mama's name, this would local news and barely that.
Posted by: Fast 'n Furious at April 26, 2012 10:17 AM (lf4N9)
Ace,
I'm afraid it's much worse and much simpler than all that. Not that the factors you and John Hayword listed are wrong. They're just secondary.
American culture suffers from two complementary ailments: White Guilt dovetailing with Non-White Grievance.
The result is a potent cultural fantasy that racism against non-whites is everywhere. According to this fantasy, the causative forces of widespread (and even institutional) white-racism go largely unseen. And yet the evidence that such insidious racism is having it's way is plentiful. Every single poor or misbehaving non-white person is proof positive of white-racism. Why else would their lives suck? The results are obvious. Clearly they have been held back and/or abused by racism. And such "results" are all the "proof" that the fantasists ever need to make sense of the world.
NBC isn't guilty of lazy reporting on the Zimmerman/Martin case. Rather, they reported it exactly as they saw it. Based on the "facts", racial profiling resulting in the death of a poor, defenseless black child is exactly what happened. That's their world.
And they likely worked very hard in reporting this very important story.
But the problem is, they have no clue how distorted their vision of the "facts" is by the cultural fantasy of endemic racial injustice.
Our horrible public schools have been especially effective in inculcating this narrative of paradigmatic racial injustice. It will take many generations before it is corrected. And the correction will be very painful and scary. It requires a massive wave of level-headed individuals stepping forward and calmly but firmly calling bullshit on the cultural fantasy.
And that means being shouted down and accused of racism.
Posted by: _Dave_ at April 26, 2012 10:27 AM (2amQY)
Let's not forget that both the MSM and the Affidavit of Probable Cause are essentially "reporting" exactly what Benjamin Crump wants them to. Crump is a shakedown artist, and this is his latest performance piece.
Posted by: Jerome at April 26, 2012 10:35 AM (eQa5p)
Posted by: easy peasy at April 26, 2012 10:39 AM (7JY6C)
Posted by: holygoat at April 26, 2012 11:41 AM (XnwWl)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 26, 2012 11:31 AM (f9c2L)
____________
Yes, Jewel hired that lawyer who represented the JonBenet Ramsey parents (Lynn Wood, I think his name is). He won some settlements against some of the MSM defendants, but Jewel's life and reputation were ruined, and he died in his 40's from heart disease, probably exacerbated by the extraordinary stress he had to live with daily after the MSM falsely accused him of being the bomber.
Posted by: Bystander at April 26, 2012 11:44 AM (WvS06)
There was a claimed "self defense" fatal shooting at a Taco Bell in Laveen AZ (outside Phoenix) earlier this month. See if you can figure out why this case has not attracted any media attention or racial grievance industry demonstrations:
A man in his 20's was driving his car thru the drive-thru at the Taco Bell. Another man walked in front of the car. The driver and the walker had words, and the driver shot the walker from inside his car. The driver claimed he had shot to defend his life, after the walker swung an iron pipe at him. Witnesses said the walker had nothing in his hand but a dog leash (he had been walking his dog when shot), and police found no iron pipe or other weapon at the scene. The victim's family says he was mentally disabled, and had the mental capacity of a 12-year old. The shooter was not arrested.
Why no outrage over this shooting? The victim was white; the shooter was black.
Posted by: Observer at April 26, 2012 11:50 AM (WvS06)
Posted by: Antitarian at April 26, 2012 11:49 AM (60GaT)
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What, exactly, would you call it, then? And I'm not calling you a wuss. I'm calling you a pantywaist.
Posted by: Kerry at April 26, 2012 11:54 AM (a/VXa)
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 26, 2012 12:36 PM (xm1A1)
Posted by: StanleyJ at April 26, 2012 12:14 PM (Lz+QC)
OK
I'll break your fucking ass
Posted by: TexasJew at April 26, 2012 01:35 PM (8kWKd)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 26, 2012 01:37 PM (8kWKd)
Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2012 02:29 PM (7W3wI)
#173.
The most salient feature of the Trayvon defenders is their utter stupidity, and their bizarre inability to process any information which contradicts the initial Narrative put out by the MSM back before the relevant facts began to leak out.
Idiots.
Posted by: Hayabusa at April 26, 2012 11:42 PM (B+qrE)
Trayvon Martin tells his girlfriend over the phone he's going to try to lose someone who's following him, takes a side path, and does lose Zimmerman. Zimmerman heads back to his car, having lost track of Trayvon Martin. Very speculatively, Martin may have felt dissed at having been followed in the first place and decides to turn predatory and hunt down his pursuer. IF true, that course of action was totally unnecessary on his part, and turned out to be a fatal mistake. But for whatever reason, it seems Martin could not leave well enough alone after losing his follower, and came up to him (maybe even from behind), and asked, "Hey, you got a f*ckin' problem?" Upon hearing Zimmerman's answer of "No, I don't have a problem", Martin slugged him in the nose and growled, "Well you do now!" and attacked like a stereotypical predatory savage. Apparently during the fight, Martin said something to the effect of "You're gonna die tonight!" and reached for Zimmerman's gun. Zimmerman is able to use his gun to shoot his attacker and end the predatory war in an instant.
If that's indeed how events went down, it should be a dream case for the defense lawyer, and a bunch of lawsuits against the prosecutor (hopefully personally against him), personally against each media reporter who libeled him, and personally against the New Black Panthers who put a bounty on his head for false arrest, false imprisonment, and malicious prosecution should follow.
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 26, 2012 07:23 AM (8y9MW)