June 26, 2012

Shock: Astroturfed "Threat" Left at Patterico
— Ace

Despite being posted to a nine-day old post -- a dead thread -- and only up for 8 minutes before Patterico deleted it, somehow Brett Kimberlin managed to get a screenshot of it, and filed it in court as one of the many "threats" being "incited" against him.

Posted by: Ace at 10:24 AM | Comments (57)
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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 10:25 AM (8y9MW)

2 Will not comment about what I believe a certain subject to be.  Will reserve those comments for my own blog.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 10:26 AM (8y9MW)

3 Killgored.

Posted by: Cicero at June 26, 2012 10:26 AM (QKKT0)

4 They're certainly counting on the ignorance of judges with regards to how the Internet functions.

They've had good luck so far.

Hopefully Patterico can track it.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 26, 2012 10:28 AM (T0NGe)

5 I am shocked, shocked that the IP address resolves to an anonymous proxy.

Posted by: Andy at June 26, 2012 10:28 AM (5Rurq)

6 Exhibit F: Turfened Again

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 26, 2012 10:29 AM (Gye7Z)

7 I keep waiting for someone to prosecute this fk.

Posted by: Vic at June 26, 2012 10:29 AM (YdQQY)

8 IP's are a wonderful thing.

Aren't they Greg?

Posted by: EC at June 26, 2012 10:30 AM (GQ8sn)

9 Really creepy. Also difficult to prove.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at June 26, 2012 10:30 AM (RD7QR)

10 Was there any outcome to his claim of being SWATted?

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 26, 2012 10:30 AM (DNTer)

11 >>10 Was there any outcome to his claim of being SWATted?


Yeah, he deleted the post.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2012 10:31 AM (I/Xad)

12 See, they're setting up bloggers the way the bloggers set up Wiener. Other than, you know, not setting him up.

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 10:34 AM (MMC8r)

13 I'm still alive

Posted by: Mickey Rooney at June 26, 2012 10:35 AM (jucos)

14 Time for Patterico to add hashtags to his Comments section.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 26, 2012 10:35 AM (kqqGm)

15 You know, having a self-proclaimed "hacker" at his disposal, one would think he would be smarter than that.

I guess not.

The evidence is VERY damming.  I really like what Patterico and Allergic to Bull are doing here.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 26, 2012 10:36 AM (UK9cE)

16 Weiner is in the past, we need to focus all our attention on the continuing Holder frame job.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2012 10:36 AM (I/Xad)

17 @14, Frey admitted he didn't have any clue how to do that (He's a blogger/lawyer, not a code junkie like that hobo Ace). So someone can go over there and suggest some good changes that Frey could make to wordpress.

Posted by: Kaitian at June 26, 2012 10:37 AM (fy6kc)

18 Palestinianesque tactics. The victim is really the aggressor. also, see: Michael Keaton in Pacific Heights

Posted by: soothsayer at June 26, 2012 10:37 AM (C0ttM)

19 I fail to see what all these Kimberlin groupies saw in Weiner.  To me, he was loud-mouthed prick with a little bit of power. 

Wait, I see it now.

Posted by: EC at June 26, 2012 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

20 Weiner is in the past, we need to focus all our attention on the continuing Holder frame job. We need to get them both at the same time. If only to call it "Plan Wiener-Holder."

Posted by: nickless at June 26, 2012 10:37 AM (MMC8r)

21 Cowards.  The lot of them.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 26, 2012 10:37 AM (71LDo)

22 When I am declared Dictator for life and Thor, god of loud flattulence, the first thing I'm gonna do is feed Kimberlin to the scarabs.

Posted by: maddogg at June 26, 2012 10:37 AM (OlN4e)

23 Should be added: 1. Don't send him any email about this 2. Don't post any personal information 3. Don't contact any of his friends/family Just leave him alone

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 26, 2012 10:38 AM (DNTer)

24 Can someone explain to why Aaron Walker believes the K man or his supporters try to get him killed by Muslim extremists?

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2012 10:39 AM (I/Xad)

25 I am shocked, shocked that the IP address resolves to an anonymous proxy.

It doesn't matter, because it doesn't matter who sent it.

What matters is that BK was watching the sight, caught the comment, and then held on to it for half-an-hour before screen capturing it.  Since the comment was deleted, the commenter banned, and Patterico had posted a comment about it, the only way that could have happened (based on Patterico's timeline and BK's screen cap) would be for BK to be watching for something, and the deliberately to sit on it to make it look incriminating.

He was attempting to manufacture evidence.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 10:39 AM (8y9MW)

26 I like to dress up in furry costumes and make wuv to others who do so as well.

Posted by: Space of Ades at June 26, 2012 10:39 AM (TOk1P)

27 We have Weiners in our past. Sounds so, ummm, dirty.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 26, 2012 10:40 AM (jucos)

28

26 -

 

Aha!  So you finally admit it!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 26, 2012 10:40 AM (TOk1P)

29 I knew this blog was full of yiffers.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 26, 2012 10:41 AM (Qxdfp)

30 He was attempting to manufacture evidence.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 02:39 PM (8y9MW)



The hell you say.

It's like he has a history of forging documents or something.....

Posted by: © Sponge at June 26, 2012 10:42 AM (UK9cE)

31 It's like he has a history of forging documents or something.....

Stunning, right?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 26, 2012 10:43 AM (8y9MW)

32 Brett K and his minions would make the NKVD proud.

Decide who needs to be persecuted.
Manufacture evidence and plant it.
'Discover' said evidence.
Denounce the counter-revolutionaries.
Hold a Peoples Court trial.
Convict on the false evidence.
And then send off to gulag.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2012 10:43 AM (5bbv1)

33 OT Had to change channels off Fox News.  Some bald woman of the Congressional Black Caucus was reading a prepared statement accusing Republicans in the House of conducting a witch-hunt against AG Holder.  I about puked.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2012 10:45 AM (5bbv1)

34 It's pretty clear that BK is manufacturing evidence here. Really really sad. Someone could get hurt..... for real!

Posted by: Muhammad al-Durrah at June 26, 2012 10:47 AM (jucos)

35

That is what I love about the hashes. 

If it's a recognized name but a wrong hash, it's pretty obvious

Posted by: imp at June 26, 2012 10:49 AM (UaxA0)

36 I fail to see what all these Kimberlin groupies saw in Weiner. To me, he was loud-mouthed prick with a little bit of power

Liberals are like the stereotypical American tourist - they think people will stop rejecting their arguments if they just deliver them LOUDER AND SLOWER.  Hence their intense love for the likes of Weiner and Alan Grayson.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 26, 2012 10:52 AM (tqwMN)

37 Another brick for the wall.  Ultimately, we are seeing a pattern develop where somebody is using proxies to harass people interested in Kimberlin's past.  THe proxies might be a court filing used to spread private information, an internet sock puppet, or a SWAT team in extreme cases, but the perpetrator is VERY CAREFUL their own involvement is carefully covered.

Every time it happens we re-affirm the pattern.  And this stuff isn't necessarily as anonymous as the perpetrators may believe it to be.  Just saying. 

I wonder if NR has considered that, despite their relationship, BK can use him as the fall guy when the shit gets real bad in the future? 

Posted by: CausticConservative at June 26, 2012 10:52 AM (gT3jF)

38

Eight minutes?

That means one thing and one thing only: The guy who screen grabbed it is the guy who posted it.

Period.

Posted by: Walsingham at June 26, 2012 11:03 AM (gFYz6)

39 38 Eight minutes? That means one thing and one thing only: The guy who screen grabbed it is the guy who posted it. Period.

Not necessarily. Human freak #1 could have posted it at a particular time while his/her demented cohort was watching for it and refreshing. Then, demented cohort takes screen captures every minute or so (between fapping) until the post is removed, hoping for the maximum amount of time. I'm sure they were disappointed it was only 8 minutes.

And, kudos to Patterico for being on the ball enough to catch it that quickly, although I'm sure it's a red flag when an ancient thread gets bumped all of a sudden.

Why go through so much trouble when you can photoshop anything you want? Are these slime lining up witnesses too?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at June 26, 2012 11:20 AM (Qxdfp)

40

Visual Online S.A.


whois 85.93.218.204
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% Information related to '85.93.218.192 - 85.93.218.223'

inetnum:         85.93.218.192 - 85.93.218.223
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country:         LU
admin-c:         MM23471-RIPE
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tech-c:          CS1730-RIPE
status:          ASSIGNED PA
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person:         Christian Schmit
address:        Visual Online S.A.
address:        P.O. Box 2534
address:        L-1025 Luxembourg
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person:         Marc Morocutti
address:        ION Group S.A.
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person:          Steve Clement
address:         SYN2cat Hackerspace.lu A.S.B.L.
address:         11, rue du Cimetiere
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An ISP in Luxembourg who offers VOIP.

A good place to start an FBI subpeona.

Posted by: Hal at June 26, 2012 11:29 AM (iYvMQ)

41

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2012 02:39 PM (I/Xad)

 

If someone's already answered then I apologize for being redundant.

 

The reason Walker feels that K set him up to be killed once before is that K published *all* of Walker's personal information on one of those many litigation forms he's filled out. K then *publicized* that fact by contacting law enforcement and telling them he feared Walker's life was in danger from Muslim extremists because now they knew where to find all of Walker's personal information...that *K* had just made available.  When it was suggested that redacting or sealing the information would fix the problem K vehemently argued against doing so and, when he lost that decision, argued to have the records unsealed again. 

Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 26, 2012 11:43 AM (Qe7jo)

42 not a code junkie like that hobo Ace
............
Look at this place!  This is NOT the work of a code junkie! 

A hobo? Maybe..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 26, 2012 11:46 AM (f9c2L)

43 "An ISP in Luxembourg who offers VOIP. A good place to start an FBI subpeona." it is well appreciated then that the luxembourgeois have that jurisdiction-sharing agreement with our fed boys. again, by the lettre of the law, BK knows what he's doing. but he's an idiot if he doesn't think juries will play subconscious hardball at all this implicatory circumstance.

Posted by: jimi ray at June 26, 2012 12:10 PM (FcOR4)

44 Christ, what a whiny bitch. 

What's the point, ultimately, in posting fake, astroturfed comments about yourself? 

Just so you can run mewling to somebody to say, "This site has mean things about me that were posted by pseudonymous commenters!!!!11!" 

I'd be embarrassed just to advertise that I cared enough to track down every stray comment that might hurt my tender fee fees. 

Posted by: Phinn at June 26, 2012 12:12 PM (KNtHw)

45

Posted by: Phinn at June 26, 2012 04:12 PM (KNtHw)

 

The astro-turf was a death threat implication against The AG and another government employee supposedly written by Patterico. Serious stuff.

Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 26, 2012 12:21 PM (Qe7jo)

46 The astro-turf was a death threat implication against The AG and another government employee supposedly written by Patterico. Serious stuff.

Well, that's likely. 

If you're going to make fake death threats, my general rule is to make them against people that your target is actually wants to see dead.  Like George Lucas, or Ashton Kutcher, or that guy from the Annoying Orange videos. 

You know, people who really deserve it.

Posted by: Phinn at June 26, 2012 12:28 PM (KNtHw)

47

Phinn....that's not helpful. ....In fact, that was a stupid thing to say.

Patterico is not wanting to see anyone dead.

Posted by: wheatie at June 26, 2012 12:42 PM (0T8H7)

48 Not even Ashton Kutcher?  Come on!

Posted by: Phinn at June 26, 2012 01:08 PM (KNtHw)

49

Posted by: wheatie at June 26, 2012 04:42 PM (0T8H7)

 

Given those named, it's pretty clear (he?) was joking, but yeah it's a pretty touchy subject right now.

Posted by: Polliwogette, Teahada hobbit at June 26, 2012 01:17 PM (Qe7jo)

50 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Steevy at June 26, 2012 01:25 PM (Ts9tU)

51 The velvet tar pit.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7e2le5v

Posted by: 13times at June 26, 2012 01:46 PM (h6XiD)

52 Fwiw...8 minutes MAX. It was an eight minute window from the time the last comment was left, and another commenter responded. The screen cap was taken by the capper roughly forty minutes later, from an unrefreshed page view, a view that did not include the responding comment.

Posted by: Sarahw at June 26, 2012 02:08 PM (5TFvk)

53 Good point about the VoIP service.

Posted by: Sarahw at June 26, 2012 02:09 PM (5TFvk)

54 Abe Lincoln should be dispatched forthwith!!

Posted by: Stuff that Jefferson Davis Said, vol IV at June 26, 2012 03:10 PM (qs9G3)

55 Why am I not surprised? Astroturfing threats so he can sue people about them in court.

Posted by: drawandstrike at June 26, 2012 04:20 PM (EERTp)

56 You know, it would be a damned shame if a SMOD were to hit him.

Posted by: torabora at June 26, 2012 06:06 PM (93nXF)

57 I find it simply amazing that he could get a screen shot of his on comment before it was deleted.  Flat out amazing.........

Posted by: Mark at June 27, 2012 03:27 PM (UqY8b)

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