1 My underwear is worth thousands of dollars used.

2 Skinflint, indeed.  Your words are too kind ace.

3 Leftist suckers of cock only believe in giving my money to charity, not their own.

Good on Romney.

4

Obama is a cheap loser.

5 Too bad the GOP is too much of a pussy to highlight this factoid.

6 Suckers of Cock.

7 At least I didn't give anything to those Mormon nutjobs.

8 My mother asked me if was watching the SOTU tonight.  I'd rather poke needles under my fingernails.

9 Why be charitable with my own money when I can be way more charitable with yours?

10 The obamas get free housing, food, and transportation, none of which is taxable. When they leave, they will get millions of dollars thrown at them and a fucking pension. What utter trash they are!

11 Charity...it's for everyone else but liberals.

12 What the hell is the matter with you, Ace?

Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.  You want the man who led us to world peace, according to the Nobel Peace Prize, to be MORE charitable?

World Peace! 

Have you seen the ocean lately?  It's not rising anymore.  Any guess as to why?

Put you think he owes the March of Dimes some cans of beans?

13 What charities did they donate to? OWS?

14 Obama's favorite charity seems to be the Mexican drug cartels.  Just learned about Operation White Gun today.

15 his whole life he's received charity...giving isn't a consideration. 

16 If the money went to foreigners he might have given more.
Someone should check laundered muslim charities for his fingerprints.

17

I give so freely...

...in the comments.

18 Do the unicorns I gave you not shit skittles?  You're welcome!

19 Looks like Romney's expected 2011 return indicates that he'll give just over 19%.

Romney should use that stat to beat Obama's head at the debates.

20

Since linking here no longer works, I urge everyone to go to Hot Air and watch the Paul Ryan vid that's up. Paul Ryan is amazing. The media are still trying real hard to use Newt's words about "right wing social engineering" against him. Ryan does a GREAT job deflecting. But, damn Newt for that. Damn him.

 

21 Not only is he a cheap bastard but his "charity" was that preacher whose sermons he never listened to.

22 when Obama farts in church, he records it as a $3000 charitable donation. He gave $9000 last year.

23 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

24
The Kennedys are the same way. They're very charitable with other people's money.

25

Most democrats are cheap. All elected democrats are super cheap. That's why they want to tax you to death. To pay for their steroid infused cheapness.

26 A liberal "Friend" of mine is not impressed that Romney contributed to his Church because he is a Mormon? This guy is in my 'Tribe" and I am sure he would not be so condisending if the contributions were to Hadassah or his Temple

27 I give my golf balls to the out-of-bounds areas.

28 This goes to my point about Leftists wanting Government to do Charity work.

They know that they are too greedy and lazy to support charities, so they assume everyone else is, too.  And that's the relatively benevolent ones.  The purely malignant ones, of course, are hoping to subjugate the American People, either by addicting them to the Government teet, or by making them work for the government (functionally) for most of the year, and only have enough to survive on, themselves.

29

If a liberal were to give voluntarily to a charity, it would set a bad precedent.  Soon, everyone out there would be giving to charities of their own choice, instead of the ones the liberal himself chooses.

That's why tax loopholes deductions for charitable giving, which millionares and billionares routinely abuse, must be abolished from our tax code.

The added revenue can be invested by motivated and compassionate people, necessarily shielded from the rigors of electoral politics, on behalf of all of us, not just the 1%.

In the spirit of fairness, it time for use to share the bounty of charitable giving equally, and not just the sacrifice.  It's only fair.

30 OT but Miss Shepard Smith finally ran off the rails today and is still going full speed ahead.

31 Does that figure count wikipedia?

32

 

IÂ’m pretty sure this whole post is racist.

33 So much is made of Romney's 15% effective tax rate?

What is Obama's?

What would Obama's be if he gave 15% of his income to charity?

34
btw, Capt Shitheadio tested negative for drugs

but tested positive for guinea charm and an olive oil voice

35

Every ball I slice into the out of bounds or into the water hazard is another $100 charitable donation.

36

Yeah, but Romney's a capitalist, so he stole all that money from the workers.

37 OT but Miss Shepard Smith finally ran off the rails today and is still going full speed ahead. Posted by: Aunt Cranky at January 24, 2012 03:24 PM (JoeF6) Yeah when he gets going I turn him and FOX off

38 But the Zero has "people" who do that for him, Ace. .....As in "we the people". .....As in, we the people 'give' our money to him, and he gives it to "his people".

39 What would Obama's be if he gave 15% of his income to charity? Posted by: AmishDude at January 24, 2012 03:24 PM (T0NGe) A Republican and not President

40 Every nut I deposited in in Kal Penn's mouth was listed as a charitable donation.

41

Good point, AmishDude.  Part of why Mitt pays less taxes is because if you donate a bunch to charity, your taxes get lowered. 

Wish the actual Romney campaign would consider making the same point.

42 Well, Obama is a member of the 1%.

43 37 Yeah, but Romney's a capitalist, so he stole all that money from the workers.

Posted by: Occupy Wall Street at January 24, 2012 03:25 PM (fsFpl)

So what about rich lawyers?

44 Hey, I've given millions of brain cells to the Budweiser fund every year. What more do you want, wingnuts?

45 Yeah when he gets going I turn him and FOX off

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 24, 2012 03:25 PM (i6RpT)

He's spending most of this show going on and on about a white house menu.  I am embarrassed for him.

46 God formatting sucks ass today

47 He gives us his wisdom, his beauty, his magnificence and the direction for our lives every day...

48 Posted by: whatever at January 24, 2012 03:21 PM (O7ksG)

Don't be so quick to damn him.  When he said that phrase a lot of people who would have previously ignored him took a look and tuned in.  Thus, the debate you had last night.  Trying to take the air out of the room.  If the debates weren't resonating then the media wouldn't be trying to put the kabosh (as my gram would say how i love that word) on them.

A lot of previous reluctant ron paul people are turning in to take another look at newt.   These aren't paul bots they are oliver stone dems who were rooting for ron paul cause they are reticent to cast another vote for BO.   If that phrase pulls them in newt's direction then even paul ryan would say it's a good thing.

49 wretch! stupid formatting...

50 Who's the 1% again?  Really?

51 Sure, he gave 1% of his own money, but he gave 14% of everyone else's money to charities like Solyndra, PetroBras, and the SEIU. Actually, wait, let me do the math, 114% of everyone else's money.

52 What's Sheppie up to today? .....I can't watch Fox very much anymore. They have pissed me off too much.

53 I've read several liberals talk about how it's bad to give to charities, because it encourages private solutions to problems the government should be taking care of. If there's not enough charity given, people will demand the government intervene. Awesome.

54 Republicans are just giving away a little of the money they stole from starving black babies, just so they can look nice and get into heaven.

Democrats are noble and infinitely moral demigods who intend to build a just society in which there is no need for charity. Therefore, liberals don't need to give to any silly charity.

Now shut up and pay your damn taxes, suckers.

55

I have given extremely valuable speeches to you people . . . for FREE!

I even understand that you backwards bitter-clingers can be blessed by my presence on your boxy TVs in your trailer parks.  Charity?  That's real charity.

Heck, I appointed a charity czar.

56 WE ARE THE 99%!

57 Romney's effective federal income tax rate is 13.7%

58 i don't know...i try not to watch shep....he doesn't look good though.....not that he ever did....but looking too thin.......

59

I give you my Time... I give you my Leadership... and you all stick me in this OLD house... with Old Airplanes... heck... just look at this hand me down desk I got..

And you want my MONEY too?

60 30 OT but Miss Shepard Smith finally ran off the rails today and is still going full speed ahead.

Posted by: Aunt Cranky at January 24, 2012 03:24 PM (JoeF6)

Showed up in a slinky black dress? Details, please.

61

Anyone President-Elect Obama's nifty tax dodge when he signed a book deal, and got payed an advance, for delivery of books after he leaves office?

As long as we are talking taxes, why is no one making an issue out of the boy-king's behavior? {rhetorical question only}

62 "I've read several liberals talk about how it's bad to give to charities, because it encourages private solutions to problems the government should be taking care of."

Wait, seriously?  I mean, I know that's what they actually think, but they admit to that?

63 Wish the actual Romney campaign would consider making the same point.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 24, 2012 03:26 PM (epBek)

They might.  We'll never know because the media doesn't pass on good arguments to us.

Somebody ran the numbers and most middle class people don't pay an effective rate of 15%.  You pretty much have to be single, have no mortgage or dependents and make a whole lot of money.

64 Michelle considers vacation spending charitable giving.
......and she gives and gives so more.

65 53 What's Sheppie up to today? .....I can't watch Fox very muchanymore. They have pissed me off too much.

Posted by: wheatie...liking Perry more than ever at January 24, 2012 03:28 PM (ALwK/)

Dissecting the menu from a white house lunch he went to.  The program is half over and we haven't gotten to the entree yet.

66

God formatting sucks ass today.

Let's see what still works...

Howzabout this?

 

Or this? And somebody already said that the linkything didn't work.=, it didn't work for me or Vic this morning.

67 Oh and obama's charitable giving only increased because he was and is running for Office, we all know that

68 Stingy Cheapo of a Miserly Fink

69 If you were to add up all the volunteer hours that I burn through every year and calculate it at the same rate that I get paid my regular wage, it would add up to nearly half of what I take home every year. I easily "work" 40 hours a month at my volunteer gig.

70 Planned Parenthood, ACORN. You know, charity.

71 4 I've read several liberals talk about how it's bad to give to charities, because it encourages private solutions to problems the government should be taking care of. If there's not enough charity given, people will demand the government intervene.

Awesome.

Posted by: Grimaldi

You know who first came up with that idea?  Karl Marx, I shit you not.  It's called 'heightening the contradictions.'  Marx used to chew out friends who gave money to homeless people.

Liberalism is preschool Marxism.

72

 "...they breathe and shit charity."

*UpTwinkles"

73 .....all of my spelling and grammatical errors are belong to pixy

74 Barry is very charitable with everyone else's money. His own - not so much. But I'm sure it's racist to point that out.

75 Good time to review the tax proposals of the folks who are left: 

taxpolicycenter.org/ taxtopics/ Summary-of-Tax-Proposals-of-2012-GOP-Candidates.cfm


Newt and Santorum keep the charitable giving deduction and I'm pretty sure Mitt does, too. 

76 So what about rich lawyers?

Posted by: AmishDude

The non-racist term is selfless servants of the People.

 

77 "all of my spelling and grammatical errors are belong to pixy"

Well, we blame it for everything else, why not that, too?

Heck, I blame our current crop of candidates on pixy.
And I blame the 2008 election on pixy.

78

Hmm, breaks still MIA.

Pixy, release the Computer Hamsters!

79 Obama and that nasty wife of his are trailer trash.

80 When I worked in the publishing industry, I was surrounded by liberals.  None of them gave a thin dime to charity, because "it is government's role to provide charity, and if there isn't enough money, they need to tax those rich people more".

81 Sheppie was invited to a White House lunch? ......Well, see there.....that just shows what a Giver the JEF is, giving lunch to our starving media.

82 Obama and that nasty wife of his are trailer trash. Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 24, 2012 03:32 PM (QKKT0) obama is just as nasty as his wife. i think he is the nastiest bastard ever to shit in the oval office

83 The MFM will let everyone know every stinking detail about the Republicans but this fact about Barry will go unreported

84 "Wait, seriously? I mean, I know that's what they actually think, but they admit to that?"

Sometimes they don't realize they're admitting to it. I was having an argument with one of my wife's college friends the other day, and he basically claimed it was the job of government to build, well, pretty much everything.

I decided that fell under the "but ... but ... Roads!!!" rule in the Libertarian Drinking Game (and that I was playing), so I broke out a bottle of Val-u-Rite.

85 Remember that time deducted my undies-because I donated them to charity?

86 You see, they don't have to give money to charity; they breathe and shit charity.

I'm still waiting for that damn Skittle-shitting unicorn.

87 Just the honored privilage to listen to Obama's SOTU Speech will by Charity to my ears !!!!!!!!

88 I gave the Muslim Brotherhood all of Egypt and Libya!

89 Brings a whole new meaning to "The 1%".

90

As I read somewhere, libs are like Scrooge before he has his epiphany.  Scrooge lets those looking for donations know that he has paid his taxes and his obligation is at an end.  After all, that is why his taxes support poor houses.  You'll also notice that after he wakes, he doesn't run out and lobby for more government or shut his business down to go crap on police cars (horse drawn wagons).  Why, he actually does things on his own initiative to foster better conditions and writes out his own check to pay for it, the exact opposite of the liberals who complain that they can't write out their own checks to the federal government.

91 Remember that time *I* deducted my undies

92 Romney adviser Norm Coleman predicts GOP president won't repeal health law By Julian Pecquet - 01/24/12 10:51 AM ET

Mitt Romney adviser Norm Coleman, a former senator from Minnesota, predicted the GOP won't repeal the Democrats' healthcare reform law even if a Republican candidate defeats President Obama this November.

"You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president," Coleman told BioCentury This Week television in an interview that aired on Sunday. "You can't whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what's been done."

93 "You know who first came up with that idea? Karl Marx [...]"

Y'know, it would be useful to have a link to that quote, in context.

To use on my friends when they pull that krutz.

94 Damn, Barky, your free-spending ways make the rest of us look bad.

95 Obama paid 23% income tax in 2010. I thought millionaires need to pay their fair share. That's less than Buffet's secretary.

96

You know what I love?  That the MFM, while pointing out that Romney and his wife donated a sizeable portion of their wealth to charity, always - ALWAYS -- mention that a lot of those charitable donations went to the Mormon church.  So Romney's charity should be taken with a pinch of salt because, you know, those Mormons be crazy, and he's just subsidizing the crazy.

*rolling eyes*  I hate the media.

97 I gave billions of valuable bond-buying opportunities to a deserving nation in South East Asia.

98 "he basically claimed it was the job of government to build, well, pretty much everything."

I hate this line of argument.

And the riposte of "Hmmm... so how did roads and telegraph lines get built before the government basically took over that function?" just sails right past them.

One more time, for the record:  You have no right to what someone else must produce.  That includes roads, telephone lines, fiber-optic cable, or whatever else.

99 I heard HotAir has something anti-Newt on it. I demand that everyone personally boycott HotAir! Also Drudge. And FoxNews. I will provide hourly updates on what sites are acceptable to read. Don't let the Establishment control your mind with information! I will also list the acceptable comments, by #, that are left here. Make sure not to read any of the comments that I have not personally pre-approved. Only I have the mental immune system to read the Establishment Lies. Your mind will be infected. I am trying to help you. I insist you let me help you!!!

100 Hey!  I gave away billions of YOUR money last year!

101

BackwardsBoy.....try using a 'period' followed by an 'enter' ( or return)  to create a break.

.

^Like this. .....Erm, really it is an 'enter' + 'period' + 'enter' that seems to work.

102 That's less than Buffet's secretary.

Posted by: Teleprompter at January 24, 2012 03:35 PM (NbmYl)

Buffet's secretary's "rate" includes payroll taxes (FICA). That's the little trick he uses.

103 I donated my DNA to Monica on her blue dress. Hell that is worth at least a $10K donation to the charity of young wayward women. Just ask Hillary...Well don't ask her about it on second thought.

104

"You can't whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what's been done."

That's complete and utter bullshit. Anything government has done, government can undo.

Hey Norm, 'splain it to me exactly why it can't be thrown out. I got time, since I only work part-time now.

105 when Obama farts in church, he records it as a $3000 charitable donation.

I have got to get a better accountant.

106 Blame the format fail on the lefty/ronulan/crack addict who broke the comments yesterday. Pixy had to disable HTML in the comments save for the name field. Everybody should tip a glass of beverage to Pixy, who's working away at the problem.

107 Posted by: Ranty McNewGuy at January 24, 2012 03:37 PM (QcFbt)

WTF?

Is this a repeat of yesterday's "WOO PEW PEW" brigade?

108 Isn't Feed the Saul Alinsky Babies a deductible charity anymore?

109 Marine's career threatened by controversial rules of engagement By: Sara A. Carter | 01/23/12 8:05 PM National Security Correspondent | Follow On Twitter @SaraCarterDC Marine Corps 1st Lt. Joshua Waddell, 25, in Sangin, Afghanistan, is executive officer with the 3rd Battalion, 7th Marine Corps Regiment, from Twentynine Palms, Calif. (Courtesy photo) Joshua Waddell, a first lieutenant in the U.S. Marines, appeared on his way to a stellar career as an American military officer. The son of a retired Navy SEAL commander, Waddell had won a Bronze Star during his first tour of duty in Afghanistan and had returned for a second. Then he made a decision in combat that military experts say has severely jeopardized his future in the corps. But some military experts say the black mark on Waddell's record was undeserved, that he and other young American officers are being put in a difficult, if not impossible, situation by unreasonable rules of engagement foisted upon the military by politically sensitive commanders in the Pentagon. The facts in Waddell's case are spelled out in Marine Corps documents. But how those facts should be interpreted is a matter of heated dispute. On Nov. 1, Waddell, a 25-year-old executive officer with 3rd Battallion, 7th Marine Corps Regiment, was monitoring a surveillance camera in Sangin, Afghanistan, when he spotted a man who had been identified as a bomb maker working with area insurgents. Two days earlier, a sergeant from India Company had lost both legs and a hand when a bomb detonated in their area of operation. The man spotted on the camera was believed to be responsible. After receiving permission from his battalion commanders, Waddell ordered Marine snipers to open fire on the man, and he was hit. A group of Afghans rushed to the man, put him on a tractor and attempted to flee. Waddell ordered the snipers to hit the engine block of the tractor, disabling it so the man believed to be a bomb maker would not escape. The tractor was hit but no civilians were injured. Then, about three weeks later, the civilians who helped remove the wounded man from the area were found to be teenagers. As a result, Waddell was demoted from executive officer, and the battalion commander, Lt. Col. Seth Folsom, determined he had violated rules of engagement that governed when Marines could fire, and at whom. Folsom said Wadell "is not recommended for promotion" and "in violation of [combat rules] during an engagement." The report stated that "noncombatant local nationals" were in the area of direct fire and that "the engagement resulted in a damaged local national vehicle." Horse shit. What a way to fight a war.

110

I blame pixy for New Coke!

111 Mitt Romney adviser Norm Coleman, a former senator from Minnesota, predicted the GOP won't repeal the Democrats' healthcare reform law even if a Republican candidate defeats President Obama this November. "You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president," Coleman told BioCentury This Week television in an interview that aired on Sunday. "You can't whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what's been done." If it's found unconstitutional by the SCOTUS, don't they have an obligation to repeal it? The individual mandate (or tax or fee) it what funds it...it that goes, it all falls apart.

112 You aren't counting the payoffs made to various interest groups via Stimulus. Just think, they gave 500million to Solyndra - that is like 48000% charity!

113 If there's not enough charity given, people will demand the government intervene.

That's why Catholic adoption agencies have to be closed...they don't give a shit about gay couples wishing to adopt, that's just a useful thing to make sure there are people hurting so they can expand gov't.  Catholic hospitals are next, btw--again, they don't care about how nurses get their morning-after pills paid for, but when they shut down the hospitals over it, the low-income people who were getting free/reduced-price care (and the rural people, who don't have any other hospitals within an hour's drive) are going to be screwed, and elected officials can ride in with Other People's Money and look like heroes.

*spit*

114 And when taxes are raised I'm sure everyone's charitable donations will stay the same, and there won't be any government crowd out at all.

115 Obama has given ~10% of my money to his "charities"

116 Romney pays an effective federal  tax rate of 13.7%, while the average middle class American taxpayer's effective rate is around 9%

117 Obama gave a lot more to charity than 1% in the latter half of the decade, but his best year was probably one-third of what Romney gave. What's most telling, however, is that in 2006, Obama gave $22,500 to Rev. Wright's church, Trinity United. When the left throws fits about Romney's tithing to the Mormon Church, we only need to mention Obama's donations to Trinity.

118

Just checking to see if the link thing works on this thread.

119

15% pfft.

Hey you wanna see my scar?

120 nope

121 Tonight the SCOAMF will tell us how charitable he is by forcing all those rich people who fill their pools with Evian water to chip in their fair share.

I'll be watching anything but that

122 'And the riposte of "Hmmm... so how did roads and telegraph lines get built before the government basically took over that function?" just sails right past them.'

Oh, this guy hit multiple points in the Drinking Game at the same time. About the only one that I remember him missing was "Somalia!"

I figured it was just time to stop talking to him.

123 I was a longtime waiter in Washington, DC. We loved every Republican inauguration regardless of personal politics. We hated every Democratic inauguration regardless of personal politics. Look at the giving differentials between conservatives and libs to see why.

124 Obama is a cheap stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

125 What's most telling, however, is that in 2006, Obama gave $22,500 to Rev. Wright's church, Trinity United.

When the left throws fits about Romney's tithing to the Mormon Church, we only need to mention Obama's donations to Trinity.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at January 24, 2012 03:39 PM (OL4L4)

It shows you he knew that Wright was poison before he started running.

I still can't believe people voted for a guy who went to that church.  Adolf Hitler was more charming.

126 *** *********** ************* ***
One of Romney's key advisors says he, or any other Republican, won't overturn Obamacare;

http://tinyurl.com/747t8xt
**** ****** ********* ***********

127

Just throwing it out there...  a significant portion of Romney's charitable donations are to his favorite organization, the Mormon Church.

 

A couple years ago, Barack Obama held a fundraiser for his favorite charity too!  Raised over $800 billion, he did. 

128

BackwardsBoy.....try using a 'period' followed by an 'enter' ( or return) to create a break.
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^Like this. .....Erm, really it is an 'enter' + 'period' + 'enter' that seems to work.

Like

.

this?

Also, the Italics have become self-aware. I tried it in the previous comment; they showed up on the comment box but not the actual comment. When I pasted in your comment, it came up Italianicised in the comment box.

129 81 When I worked in the publishing industry, I was surrounded by liberals. None of them gave a thin dime to charity, because "it is government's role to provide charity, and if there isn't enough money, they need to tax those rich people more". Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 24, 2012 03:33 PM

Cover for "I'm a cheap SOB who would rather buy the best Chardonnay than give money to someone I don't know, but I don't want anyone to think I'm a bad person"

130 Obama's been charitable with my yet unborn grandchildren's money...

131 I'm gonna make a prediction: This SOTU address will be the least watched since television began broadcasting the things.

132 I took that to mean that mitt is proud of romney care and will tweak obamacare to be just like romneycare which, is a couple of people's "worst fear" on here and look.  The advance team came out to let you know ahead of time, right up front, that you weren't going to get and aren't going to get now, what you want from a republican president (translated mitt since his camp is out there saying it).

133 OT, but I'm at a Newt rally in Fort Myers waiting for him to show up, which should be any minute. Almost against my better judgment, as I'm leaning Santorum. But I'll listen to the guy, I guess. I've never been so undecided about a primary vote in my life, Ugh

134
So I was just looking to see if a live webcam was available for the Concordia. No joy. But I did see the cool satellite images. http://tinyurl.com/75wq8x6

135 One of Romney's key advisors says he, or any other Republican, won't overturn Obamacare;

----------------------------------------
Oooh.  That's a shocker.

136 Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2012 03:41 PM (7BU4a).

So...we're going to do the out-of-context quote thing to boost our guy now.

Nice.  Very lefty.

137 Since Newt has already released his tax return, what was his % charitable giving? Anyone know? That should be mentioned in this thread just for balance.
 
Nevermind, I looked it up -- 2.6% per Businessweek on an AGI of $3.1 million in 2010.

138 The italics have become self aware? Paging Sarah Connor ...

139 All the pretty formatting doodads are disabled as Pixy works to fix the blog after yesterday's broken blog kerfluffle.  Hence the lack of italics, bold, underline, text colors, etc.  That's also why folks aren't able to link.  It'll be like this on every thread until Pixy gets it worked out.

140 "Republicans know that private Charity comes from the heart and is exponentially more effective than Tax"

Actually, I think Republicans realize that Charity that can be written off of your income taxes is much easier than that which is just "from the heart."

Don't think they're not cold and calculating about it- they're politicians, too.

But I do wish Republicans would run a series of commercials comparing the relative ease and effectiveness of obtaining private charity to the bureaucracy and mismanagement of Government Welfare.

141 137 One of Romney's key advisors says he, or any other Republican, won't overturn Obamacare;.

Not "won't".  "Can't".

And unless Newt plans to appoint farm animals to the Senate, he can't either.

142
Also: I found a website that has links to dozens of cruise ship webcams.

Pretty neat. For 5 minutes, anyway.

143 Yup, BackwardsBoy......it's all pretty screwy right now. Sometimes my spaces drop out and words run together. .....Can't really trust what you're seeing in the comment box, because there is no telling what it will look like when it's posted.

144 "Biden, of course, has given literally hundreds of dollars in a year".But only after his tax records were made public. Same with obama. They did have good intentions though. IN A PROGS MIND FEELING ARE WHAT MATTERS.

145 To use on my friends when they pull that krutz.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw

 

The Communist Manifesto denounces "philanthropists, humanitarians, improvers of the condition of the working class, organisers of charity, members of societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals, temperance fanatics, hole-and-corner reformers of every imaginable kind".  That's in Chapter III, Part 2.  In Chapter III, Part 1, the Manifesto also denounces "clerical socialism," which appears to mean church-sponsored charity and church preaching against greed and oppression.

146 I've never been so undecided about a primary vote in my life, Ugh

Posted by: Marybeth at January 24, 2012 03:43 PM (TU1z+)

 

I can relate, Marybeth.  That's how I was for NH's primary.  In the end, I wasn't 100% sure who to vote for... even after I'd cast my vote!

147

'Can't' is a flat lot of bullshit.

If you can't, than none of it is of any use and we may as well let Obama win.

The Libertarians do not say 'they can't.'

148 Heres hoping "Romney's key advisor" falls into a pit of staring wolves, with a bacon sandwich stuffed in the front of his pants.

149 Crap I just remembered.  I have to cut my Chihuahua's nails and clean its ears tonight when Obama is on TV.  Crap, what bad luck...Oh well my loss.........................NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

150 'And the riposte of "Hmmm... so how did roads and telegraph lines get built before the government basically took over that function?" just sails right past them.'

------------------------

Heh.  Liberals think that their beloved government built all those hospitals called Saint Something of Something and Mt. Sinai of Somewhere ... LOL.

Liberals would be funny if they weren't so damn dangerous in their demented nihilism.

151 Just throwing it out there... a significant portion of Romney's charitable donations are to his favorite organization, the Mormon Church.

I'm not sure what the Mormon Church spending habits are (lot of underwear). My understanding from Mormons I know they are obligated to donate to the church. But in Progressive Land church donations and church missions don't count as charity or helping the poor. 

152 Posted by: AmishDude at January 24, 2012 03:41 PM (T0NGe) "It shows you he knew that Wright was poison before he started running.I still can't believe people voted for a guy who went to that church. Adolf Hitler was more charming." According to US News, in 2008, Wright's church wasn't listed in Obama's list of faith-based donations: $500 to Apostolic Church of God $200 to Brookland Baptist Church $500 to Brown AME Church $1,000 to Catholic Relief Services $150 to Crusade of Mercy $100 to First Lutheran Church $5,000 to New Orleans Area Habitat for Humanity $500 to St. Leo's Residence for Veterans $100 to St Luke's United Methodist Church Sorry I can't post the link since that doesn't seem to be working in the comments right now.

153 May the diseased fleas of a thousand rabid dogs infest the pubes of whomever it was that attacked the blog yesterday.

154 I swear to god if you failshits ratchet-effect socialized healthcare in because the democrats rammed it through reconciliation there's going to be a riot.

155

 

But that 1% went to things that were better than what Mitt Romney gave to, which was rich people and the 1%!!!

 

 

156 How convenient of "Fake News" to stop at 2006 charity giving. I know for a FACT that Barack Obama donated 5 Humvees with .50 cal machine gun mounts to the Libyan rebels with his Nobel Peace Prize money. Suck on that wingnuts!

157 Horse shit. What a way to fight a war. Posted by: nevergiveup at January 24, 2012 03:38 PM (i6RpT) -------------------------------------------------------- We are no longer fighting a war, we are building a country. We have to be sensitive to the native population doncha know.

158

To use on my friends when they pull that krutz.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw

The Communist Manifesto denounces "philanthropists, humanitarians, improvers of the condition of the working class, organisers of charity, members of societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals, temperance fanatics, hole-and-corner reformers of every imaginable kind". That's in Chapter III, Part 2.

 

 In Chapter III, Part 1, the Manifesto also denounces "clerical socialism," which appears to mean church-sponsored charity and church preaching against greed and oppression.

 

Marx also specifically attacked charity because it postponed the revolution, but I don't have those quotes handy.

159 >>"You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president," Coleman told BioCentury This Week television in an interview that aired on Sunday. "You can't whole-cloth throw it out.
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Too bad when Coleman got thrown out he didn't get buried at the dump.
If the GOP doesn't purge itself of these pathetic, cringing, MFM pandering eunuchs, Conservatives are going to have to establish a new party.
If it's not a one party totalitarian state at that point.

160 Oh, and after last nights debate, was it real smart for Newt to appear at a campaign rally in front of a Hobby Lobby?

161 155 May the diseased fleas of a thousand rabid dogs infest the pubes of whomever it was that attacked the blog yesterday.

Posted by: wheatie...liking Perry more than ever at January 24, 2012 03:46 PM (ALwK/)

 

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So say we all, amen.

162 149 'Can't' is a flat lot of bullshit.
If you can't, than none of it is of any use and we may as well let Obama win.
The Libertarians do not say 'they can't.'

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 24, 2012 03:46 PM (mf67L).

Yeah, the Libertarians just `don't.'

What law have Libertarians repealed? 

If you would actually read the quote instead of having some slimy partisan hack take it out of context, Coleman says we can dismantle a lot of it.  The context, of course, being that he's eager to do so.

163 "But I do wish Republicans would run a series of commercials comparing the relative ease and effectiveness of obtaining private charity to the bureaucracy and mismanagement of Government Welfare."

That's not exactly the problem. See O'Keefe, James E. III.

A Charity actual cares that its help goes to people who need it. The bureaucrat just wants to keep from getting a negative evaluation from the scam artist, so avoids the hassle by approving the welfare anyway.

The law-abiding won't make a big stink about being rejected, while the criminal will.

164 Not "won't". "Can't".

Posted by: AmishDude at January 24, 2012 03:44 PM (T0NGe)

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"Won't"

And they won't.

165 Mary is that you sweetie-pie. How about coming over to my place tonight to talk about Barry and maybe a little Zug-Zug afterwards ???

166

I do not want a president who's advisers say we can't do anything.

Romney should fire that dickhead Coleman immediately.

He won't, but he should.

167

 

 

But what about the forgotten 99%, Rommney doesn't care about them, he's a fascist, not like Ronald Redford, who cares about the forgotten 99%!!!

 

168

"You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major
changes, particularly if there is a Republican president," Coleman told
BioCentury This Week television in an interview that aired on Sunday.

"You can't whole-cloth throw it out. "

*********** ******************* *********** ********** ********** ******

Jumping Hay-soos on a pogo stick!

That this douche-bag is associated with Romney is enough to make me look seriously at the fat populist clown.

169 Mary...I forgot to mention I have a fresh tub of Country Crock Spread.........So you know what that means ????????????

170 Romney pays an effective federal tax rate of 13.7%, while the average middle class American taxpayer's effective rate is around 9%.

I did those tax calculations last week. A family of 4 doesn't hit 9% until they are well above 100K. Most people make around 50K to 60K and below 50K they don't pay any taxes.

171

Coleman says we can dismantle a lot of it.

All of it.

Failshit rear guard action will not save this country, it just slows the rot down slightly.

172 168 I do not want a president who's advisers say we can't do anything.
Romney should fire that dickhead Coleman immediately.
He won't, but he should.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 24, 2012 03:49 PM (mf67L)

He should fire him AFTER he beats him unconcious with a hose sheathed length of 1 inch cable.

173

I want repeal, and then replace, and then I want DeMint and Paul to obstruct and filibuster the replace so we have nothing.

Nothing.

174

Posted by: soothsayer at January 24, 2012 03:43 PM (sqkOB)

Tables and chairs and anything that floats is making it's way out of the ship causing the Coast Guard to start cleaning up the mess so it doesn't become a hazard to navigation.

Carnival is asking them to just find a dump site on the island to deposit the debris and the Italians are none too happy about that.

175 Make no mistake, Norm Coleman is simply saying in public what Romney, Newt, Santorum, and all the rest of the GOP are saying in private.

176 And they won't.

Posted by: really ... at January 24, 2012 03:49 PM (X3lox) .

Give us the full quote, then.

177 Giving to charity and not forcing others to give to your own pet projects is for suckers.

178

143 -

So you're saying that when Mitt says he'll repeal it, he's lying?  Or is the word "lying" too strong, should we call it something else? 

179

Mormons I know they are obligated to donate to the church.

******* ******* ******* *******

10% off the gross, not the net.

Or no temple recommend for YOU!

180 I did those tax calculations last week. A family of 4 doesn't hit 9% until they are well above 100K. Most people make around 50K to 60K and below 50K they don't pay any taxes.

Posted by: Vic at January 24, 2012 03:50 PM (YdQQY).

I wonder what percent of taxpayers actually pay an effective rate of 14%.

181 Coleman has given Romney's opponents a huge bat to beat him with in the next debate.

182 Nevermind, I looked it up -- 2.6% per Businessweek on an AGI of $3.1 million in 2010.

Posted by: GnuBreed

 

So Mitt gave 15%, Newt gave 2.6%, and Barack gave 1%.

 

Of course, Clinton raping and sexually harassing his employees didn't stop him from being a feminist icon.  Barack doing nothing to help people doesn't stop him from being a CompassionBringer.

 

 

183 Charity is forcing others to pay their fair share.

184 Yeah. I trust CNN to give me the facts. LOL.

185 Romney should fire that dickhead Coleman immediately.
He won't, but he should.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 24, 2012 03:49 PM (mf67L)

Romney is in full agreement with him. Romney NEVER intended to do anything to repeal ObamaCare. Not one thing. He might have signed a repeal, if forced, but that was as much as anyone could expect out of him.

Romney is an idiot.

186 I wonder what percent of taxpayers actually pay an effective rate of 14%.

Of 'taxpayers?' I'm going to guess (somebody go look it up, 'cause now I want to know, too) somewhere north of 10%.  Call it 15 - 20.

Of US Residents, of course, that percentage number goes way down.

187 BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA..........................The world economy is slowing sharply, and the euro region is headed for recession this year, the International Monetary Fund predicted Tuesday in a bleak update of global conditions. Overall, the world economy is expected to expand 3.25 percent in 2012 — down from the 4 percent projected by the IMF in the fall.

188 >>>"Wait, seriously? I mean, I know that's what they actually think, but they admit to that?"

>>Sometimes they don't realize they're admitting to it. I was having an argument with one of my wife's college friends the other day, and he basically claimed it was the job of government to build, well, pretty much everything.

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I've heard the same argument, or variation of it.

You see, many charitable organizations are backed by religious institutions, and by lefty logic they're only helping to poor to indoctrinate them into a theocracy or something.

Also, I've heard them argue that even if they don't openly discriminate against those of other faiths, the display of religious symbols and the like is a grievous act of discrimination anyways which might make the poor people getting charity uncomfortable and offended- the worst crime imaginable.

In liberal land, helping others simply because it's the right thing to do or because one's religion calls for it is unthinkable unless it's done through government.  Otherwise, there MUST be a sinister, self-serving motive behind it.

189 'Can't' is a flat lot of bullshit. If you can't, than none of it is of any use and we may as well let Obama win. The Libertarians do not say 'they can't.'
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QFT. We've got plenty of leftwing Republicans, and Republicans that wouldn't fight if a Libyan rebel was about to give them a Mummar special with his bayonet.

Where the hell are the Republicans that will fight?

Almost half the country accepts an unconstitutional law (Obamacare) passed by an unconstitutional method (Demonpass). Don't claim repealing is impossible without actually trying it first - and no just holding one vote and going home doesn't count.

190 181 143 -
So you're saying that when Mitt says he'll repeal it, he's lying? Or is the word "lying" too strong, should we call it something else?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 24, 2012 03:52 PM (TOk1P).

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Mitt says that on day 1, he'll issue waivers to all 50 states and day 2 will work to do more.

But he won't get a repeal bill on his desk.  He will not.  Neither would Newt if he manages to get elected.  Remember the games Reid played to prevent repeal?  It's a total mess.

Look, I realize we're at the "let's lie about the other POS so that we can get our POS elected, but I'm really not into lying.

191 Aren't those trophies Gen. Gutsy Call collected from Tango 1 & 2 considered to be taxable income?  1% my ass.

192 I don't give a crap what the media says. If a bag of cow shit was running against Obama, I would vote for it. It may stink, but I know what I am getting !!!!!!!

193 Posted by: Vic at January 24, 2012 03:50 PM (YdQQY).
I wonder what percent of taxpayers actually pay an effective rate of 14%.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 24, 2012 03:52 PM (T0NGe)

Not many.

194 I give to the Fat Hobo Association.  It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside to know that I helped a hobo become juicy and tasty.

195 Cripes. Choosing a candidate from the chamber pot of turds we have to choose from is like choosing a babysitter from a group of people who have all been bitten by zombies. You are trying to decide which of the dead heads are gonna turn first.

196 Even if the Republicans take over the Senate, if they don't have 60 votes in their caucus, they'll need Democrats to cross over and vote for moving a repeal vote forward. I don't know if they could get those votes.

197 110 nevergiveu,

RoE you say? Once upon a time me and my Team were walking down a trail at a fast pace when 3 dinks walked right into us, after we neutralized all 3 we got a call on the radio from a chaplain that told us to be sure to bury them, so I told my guys to toss them under the bank of a dry stream and we tossed a couple of grenades so it would cave in on them, end of story.

198 Sometimes a dictionary says it all.
cheap·skate noun \ˈchēp-ˌskāt\ a miserly or stingy person; especially : one who tries to avoid paying a fair share of costs or expenses

199 If you would actually read the quote instead of having some slimy partisan hack take it out of context, Coleman says we can dismantle a lot of it. The context, of course, being that he's eager to do so.
***
Yep, Romney's going to repeal the "Obama" part and replace it with "Romney". Because the healthcare mandate is the "conservative solution" don't ya know? By the way, nice name calling - winning hearts and minds I see.

200 Romney stated he would give every state a "OBAMACARE Waiver" the first day in office. Then Congress can defund it making it unexecutable and die on the vine...........

201 I'm as close to a one-issue voter as I've ever been in my life.  Repeal Obamacare.  I don't want to hear can't, won't, shouldn't, wouldn't, couldn't.  If they're not going to repeal it, then I don't really care who wins the White House.  Changing the name on the door doesn't mean squat to me. 

202 "You can't" with the arbitrary existential quantifier "you" is merely euphemism for "Romney won't".  It's clear that someone who is motivated CAN repeal a law that is still hated by a majority of Americans and the hate of which served to propel the greatest GOP Congressional gain in over 7 decades.  Yes, that CAN be repealed.  Anyone arguing against that is just saying that he won't do it, as we all should know will be the case with Mittens.

203 Even if the Republicans take over the Senate, if they don't have 60 votes in their caucus, they'll need Democrats to cross over and vote for moving a repeal vote forward.
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And that kind of thinking is why we we lose again and again. 51 votes is all you need.

204

Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

I denounce myself.

205

For AmishDude, who asked for the Coleman quote:

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"You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president.. You can't whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what's been done.

 

"If there's a Republican president, what you'll see is states getting waivers Â… granted and then starting again, making sure that we lower costs, which this act hasn't done, while we provide better access.

 

"I don't think the act works financially Â… if you don't have the individual mandate, because your costs are going to go so far through the roof."

 

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In my username I've linked to the BioCentury This Week page where you can find video of the interview.

206 I see no reason why I can't work with my friends from across the aisle.

207 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable fucking cheapskate tyrant.

I DON'T denounce myself.

208 "And that kind of thinking is why we we lose again and again. 51 votes is all you need. " Unless the Republicans are willing to "go nuclear", moving a bill to a final vote in the Senate requires 60 votes for cloture.

209 I'm as close to a one-issue voter as I've ever been in my life. Repeal Obamacare. I don't want to hear can't, won't, shouldn't, wouldn't, couldn't. If they're not going to repeal it, then I don't really care who wins the White House. Changing the name on the door doesn't mean squat to me.
***
A point I've been trying to bang home. Beating Obama the man is nice. Beating Obama's policies though is the task at hand.

If you hold to the former nominate Hillary. I guarantee with Republican support she sends Obama packing.

But if you want to change course in DC, you can't just replace one Liberal (D) with another Liberal (R)

210 BTW, that 60 vote requirement might be do-able with a say, 54 - 46 Republican majority if you can keep Brown, M*rk*wsk*, Snowe and Collins in the fold, plus scare six Dems to cross over. Someone like Manchin would probably vote to move forward, then you just have to get five more.

211 Simply "defunding" it is not good enough. There is a bunch of extra taxes in that POS as well as upping the damn carve out for medical deductions to 10K.

Unfortunately we will not have 60 in the Senate. Hell with the candidates for President we have we may be lucky to even take the Senate.

212 How many times will this bitch talk about 'fair share' and 'brother's keeper' tonight? Everyone should boo his cheap ass every time he mentions sacrifice.

213 182

Mormons I know they are obligated to donate to the church.
******* ******* ******* *******
10% off the gross, not the net.
Or no temple recommend for YOU!

Posted by: imp

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Individual Mormons get to choose whether they pay gross or net.  You are supposed to tithe 10% of your income, but what you define as income is up to you.  I personally tithe on net. 

 

Looking at Mitt's returns, it looks like he only pays net, unless he's also donates stocks (donated stocks don't show up on your income tax return, IIRC).

 

The Mormon Church has tons of humanitarian projects, and its religious efforts do a good job of supporting people in being decent people, good citizens, and rasiing strong families.  So yes, donations to religions and churches count as charity and should.  But if for some reason you take the liberal line that churches don't count, then Mitt *only* gave 5 times as much of his income as the President and *only* twice as much of his income as Newt.

214 Hes not a skinflint with the skinflute though...

215 @23 I think he went to church one time last year. Must have been the morning after Michelle's tofu burritos.

216 RoE you say? Once upon a time me and my Team were walking down a trail at a fast pace when 3 dinks walked right into us, after we neutralized all 3 we got a call on the radio from a chaplain that told us to be sure to bury them, so I told my guys to toss them under the bank of a dry stream and we tossed a couple of grenades so it would cave in on them, end of story.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 24, 2012 03:57 PM (mNQe4)

 

 

I've seen similar memorials to dinkdom. 

 

 

 

 

217

Yup, BackwardsBoy......it's all pretty screwy right now. Sometimes my spaces drop out and words run together. .....Can't really trust what you're seeing in the comment box, because there is no telling what it will look like when it's posted.

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I'm really not intending to be snarky. I did some dabbling in markups ten years ago, so I'm hoping it'll help out a little whilst Pixy retools AceTML.

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Kinda like going to a doctor and saying, "Doc, it hurts when I do this..." And I also give an Amen to the upthread prayer that the perpetrator(s) of this foul deed are beset with diseased fleas from a thousand camels in their nether regions.

218 Unless the Republicans are willing to "go nuclear", moving a bill to a final vote in the Senate requires 60 votes for cloture.
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Using the constitutional option is one route. Reconciliation another.

219 I gave at the office.

220

Those "charitable" donations were payoffs to southside rev'runs for endorsements.  I guess you don't know how churches work in Chicago.  Their charitiable arms are usually wrapping the rev in a brand new Caddy and the rev's missus in a new mink.

221

Unless the Republicans are willing to "go nuclear", moving a bill to a final vote in the Senate requires 60 votes for cloture.
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Using the constitutional option is one route. Reconciliation another.

I'll give you a 3rd - shut the fucking government down and ball up to their faces. Prioritize services, prioritize what you want, then shut it down and send them home.

We only need 1 branch to do that, we can sure as HELL do it if we have 3.

No more Bush era bullshit. We ain't buying Medicaid Part Q so Romney can surpass his daddies legacy.

222 I donated 15% of my sperm to charitable whores. Does that count?

223 Newtie's going to be another 1/2 hour. Already 15 minutes late. Harbinger of things to come?? The rally organizers certainly didn't plan on him being so late. Either that or they have no problem playing "Only in America" and "Independence Day" in an endless loop for the past 45 minutes. Just overheard someone behind me say that Mitt only has 50 advance people at his rally in Lehigh, a few mikes up the road. Debating whether we should go there. It's in an air-conditioned house, whereas we are sweating in 84 degree heat in a swarm of people. Santorum is appearing 45 minutes away in Punta Gorda, but I'm too lazy to drive that far.

224

Reconciliation should work.  Reconciliation allows you to get around filibusters for budget bills.

 

  Since funding parts of Obamacare have already been stripped away, its no longer revenue neutral.  So repealing it can be scored as a budget measure.

 

Coleman is out to lunch.

225 Sorry, man, I left my charity in my other wallet.

226 I would have given to charity, but I couldn't make change.

227 I remember the Powerline gang telling us that Norm Coleman was a real trial attorney who was going to tear George Galloway apart during hearings.  He sounded like a douche at the hearing, got his ass kicked by Galloway and then got his ass kicked by the least credible opponent to run in a senatorial race (and rolled over to get his ass kicked more as that opponent cheated his way to the win).  Let's hear it for Norm Coleman, Lion of Conservatism.

228 We are the charity we've been waiting for.



Give us all your money.

229 "I would have given to charity, but I couldn't make change."

Yeah, you couldn't make Hope, either.  So what else is new?

230 Oh Lord, occupy freaks have arrived, waiting for Newt. If theyre stIll here when he gets here, should be interesting. Wonder if he'll tell them to take a bath?

231

I remember the Powerline gang telling us that Norm Coleman was a real trial attorney who was going to tear George Galloway apart during hearings. He sounded like a douche at the hearing, got his ass kicked by Galloway and then got his ass kicked by the least credible opponent to run in a senatorial race (and rolled over to get his ass kicked more as that opponent cheated his way to the win). Let's hear it for Norm Coleman, Lion of Conservatism.

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This is the guy Romney picks as advisor.

All his advisors are like a whos-who of Frankfurt School marxists.

232

 Reconciliation should work. Reconciliation allows you to get around filibusters for budget bills.

 

 

I'm hoping the SCOTUS knocks this shitwad of a mess down this summer.  Then we won't have to deal with repeal, just cleaning up the fiscal chaos that it's already caused.  They can do that with a 51 vote majority.

233 But Obama and Biden are really really good at doing favors for their pals. Soros and Buffett benefited from Keystone--so they have that going for them. And we know Soros and Buffett need all the help they can get!

234

Hell maybe that's why his campaign sucks.

 

Romney is running with the B team. All his usual staff quit to work for Obama.

235 I'll give you a 3rd - shut the fucking government down and ball up to their faces. Prioritize services, prioritize what you want, then shut it down and send them home.
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Yep. I had high hopes Boehner would do this...but he doesn't have the guts.

And sadly, out of a Boehner/McConnell/Romney triumvirate, he'd be the most conservative too...

236 233 Oh Lord, occupy freaks have arrived, waiting for Newt.

If theyre stIll here when he gets here, should be interesting. Wonder if he'll tell them to take a bath? Posted by: Marybeth at January 24, 2012 04:15 PM

Best thing to do is fuck with their "mike checks", then they get all flustered and tongue tied

237 You think it's a joke... but it's not.

238 _{Liberals don't like "charity," because "charity" is a bad word. It means you give to someone, like you felt sorry for them, and then they feel obliged to be grateful in return...instead of the government taking care of it and nobody feeling bad.} 

239 Barry and Michelle Obama are quintessential schmucks.

As are the rest of the limousine liberals; filthy rich bastards that give nothing back in the real sense of the word.

240

@30 "OT but Miss Shepard Smith finally ran off the rails today and is still going full speed ahead."

Probably safer just taking that parking space space out near the mall entrance tonight until we know where he's headed.

241 ...ah, I've got it!  "Charity" means you're disrespecting someone.

I hope it's all clear now.

242 Barack and Biden know how to return a favor...and isn't that most important? Better to give to the little people with someone else's money! As P.J. O'Rourke says: Cheap virtue!

243 "skinflint"

You're not supposed to talk about his skin, you racist!

244

I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. 

I, however, am not there yet.

245 Republicans give to charity because they believe charity begins at home and because they believe in the individual taking responsibility for his/her/their own care.  So, recognizing that circumstances alter situations, they set up ways for people who can't do this to be helped and thus give a lot of their money to charity.

Democrats think that the government is the answer to all the problems.  They think that government programs should be set up to help people when help is needed and even when a republican would say no help is needed a democrat would say yes help is needed at least take some food stamps.  They don't give a lot to charity cause they think of their taxes as their charitable contribution since their charity is done through the government.

But yet, they are big on "giving back" with your time.  It's odd. 

246 Perfect definition of a progressive.  The gov't, supported by taxes, are charity.

I'm reading 'the forgotten man' right now, and the title is based on the man who doesn't fit into a grievance group who gets free shit, and someone who doesn't game the system, and is suffering because of it.  He's paying higher taxes because some sociopath thought up a new law that requires him to pay more, even though he doesn't benefit.  Perfect for whats happening today.  The book is about the great depression, but I swear its like a day to day diary of what O'dipshit is doing now.  Playing by the rules, and being white (its true, sorry) is a surefire way of living like a dog if you lost your job because of o'dipfuck

I thought teh bernank was a 'student' of the great depression?  You'd think they wouldn't match word for word the mistakes made.  The biggest one is uncertainty, just like now.  So many huge laws being passed that nobody wanted to hire anyone.  Sound familiar?

These savages are so stupid you have to wonder how they got so far in politics... oh wait, he's a grievance monger.. nevermind.

247

@233

I bet the Occutard Rage Boy from the Santorum glitter-bombing will show up.  Newt ought to have the little goat's picture distributed amongst his security team.  My guess is the dude slithers in at Newt's event wearing the same clothes he had on when he was dragged out of Santorum's shindig.

248
It's lonely up here.....

249

Obama's 1% is from a few years back. 

 

If you look at just last year . . .

 

Romney gave 14%.

Obama gave 14%.

Gingrich gave 2.5%.

http://wapo.st/z2diqs

250

By the way, despite making less than a tenth as much as Obama did in 2000, I give more than ten times as much to charity.

 

Our Democratic "betters" are miserable, selfish haters.

251 Well, my percentage would look better if the IRS would stop refusing to consider my donations to Hamas and Hezbollah as tax-deductable!

252 Yep, great adviser.  John "That Souter's a fine conservative" Sununu.  Norm "I got rolled by Al Franken" Coleman.  Is that gay guy with the tan one of his advisers in Florida?  Not George Hamilton, the other one.

253 Bailing out Wall Street contributors IS charity, bitter clingers.

254 Is that gay guy with the tan one of his advisers in Florida? Not George Hamilton, the other one.

Posted by: ejo

 

Charlie Crist?

255 Then I'll hire Ann Coulter to insult the South.  Good strategy.

256 Uh, I was avoiding any names for libel purposes.

257 they breathe and shit charity.

All over police cars.

258 If giving other people's money to your campaign contributors isn't charity then I don't know what a liberal is.

259 ...

260 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 24, 2012 03:44 PM (8y9MW)

I was talking about Citizens, not the 535 or so. I am cynical, too. Yet I prefer believing in the goodness of man 51 to 49. A weak version of American Exceptionalism, but a version of it. I'd prefer spreading any excess and spendable real money out over millions and millions counting on econimic soundness in a capitalist economy rather than giving carte blanche to 535 or so in charge of trillions of dollars yet to be earned. Otherwise, we should all just say fuck it and vote for Obama and straight Democrat tickets this fall.

261 Posted by: maddogg at January 24, 2012 03:57 PM (OlN4e)

reminds me of every Presidential election I have voted in. At least it can't be McCain. He didn't fare well in the debates against Obama. Liked Trump for a second because he would destroy Obama in a debate. Like Newt for that. Not sure if Obama will flip the checkers over and run away (even though he should be playing chess by now). Mitt would do great in debates with Obama as long as he ratchets up the passion a bit. Anywhere between Eeyore & Howard Dean would work. 

262

they breathe and shit charity.

LMAO

263 I've given more in charity in the last year than Biden did in the last ten on income less than 40K. Thank God he's so much wiser as where to spend it.

264 I'm by no means a fan of Nobama (SCOAMF), but in fairness, we should note that the story from Bloomberg that this is based on was written in 2008, and is based on their income in 2000-2004.

265 Shit, I gave money to charity the last three years and I lost money.

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While I cannot stand the guy, or his black racist wife, I am willing to cut him a break on this.  Whatever he gave to charity is more than he had to give.  He didn't have to give shit to them.  That he did so is worthy of praise, particularly considering the millions of Americans who don't give anything.  That is why it is called charity after all, because it is voluntary to do it.

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