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November 20, 2012

Slate: Damn That Marco Rubio For Being Such An Anti-Science Wackadoodle
— Ace

Q: Senator, if one of your daughters asked youÂ—and maybe they already haveÂ—Â“Daddy, did god really create the world in 6 days?,Â” what would you say?
A: What I've said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it Â… it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we liveÂ—that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible: That, I don't presume to know.

The twist is that that isn't Senator Marco Rubio talking in 2012, that's Senator (and presidential candidate) Barack Obama talking in 2008. And Slate, yes, points that out, and chides liberals generally for pretending that liberal politicians don't do this sort of thing.

Well-played, Slate. Well-played.

Posted by: Ace at 03:02 PM | Comments (160)
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1 Yeah ask Nanny Botox why sucking the brain out of an infant past the point of 85%+ survival if delivered early is not murder with regards to her cafeteria Catholicism Slate you assholes.

Or you know just keep slandering us.

Posted by: Harlekwin15 at November 20, 2012 03:04 PM (LRFds)

2 This topic doesn't interest me. Post bewbs plz kthx.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 20, 2012 03:04 PM (9SwFX)

3 I'm not interested in this.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:04 PM (GEICT)

4 What does Rubio's garbage smell like after six days?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 20, 2012 03:06 PM (6JMZR)

5 On the other hand, I'd like to know when it was that the first monkey turned to his monkey brothers and said, "Boys, I'm outta here. I'm buying some camo coveralls and gettin' me a huntin' license."

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at November 20, 2012 03:06 PM (PmG2+)

6 Wow. Well played, indeed. I don't think I've read/heard that.

We do know, however, that Daddy plugged the hole.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:06 PM (UOM48)

7 Well, get him now before he manages to gain some traction. We need to beat this medai or keep getting beat.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 20, 2012 03:07 PM (9ghZ6)

8 Yeah but that's different, because ... raaaaacist!!!!

Posted by: Adriane at November 20, 2012 03:07 PM (gh+mp)

9 I never understood what the problem with Rubio's statement was. The MFM twisted it all out o shape to make a BFD out of it.

They ARE the enemy.

Republicans need to have one standard answer for all questions involving anything religious from the MFM and that is FYNQ

Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 03:07 PM (YdQQY)

10 but it doesn't count because he really believes in evolution and was just trying to appeal to the people clinging to their guns and butter. Kind of like when he told his daughter that the vet was going to "fix" the dog, not do to the dog what Michelle mostly did to him.

Posted by: mallfly at November 20, 2012 03:07 PM (bJm7W)

11 "I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part."

Yeah, he's part of the Christian community.....that kneels on an Oval Office prayer rug facing Mecca.....or so I've heard (throwing the old leftist media crap back at them).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:09 PM (UOM48)

yeah, but when obama sez it it's NUANCED

Posted by: jd at November 20, 2012 03:10 PM (DGhcv)

13 Slate smashes another one. Thanks to our lack of cultural penetration, no one will even notice.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 20, 2012 03:11 PM (0q2P7)

14 "the Christian community of which I'm a part" -- as opposed to the rest of the Christian community to which he's a nightmare.

Posted by: mallfly at November 20, 2012 03:12 PM (bJm7W)

15 The SCoaMF and the MFM bore me. There I've said it. The Media is going to suck commie cock all day, every day for the rest of their miserable existence. It's what they do, it's the very core of their lives.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2012 03:12 PM (QupBk)

16 Every so often amateur webzine Slate does the omfg Palin is so stupid for saying that, wait, did we say Palin we mean Obama thing. Posting the first paragraph of Dreams of My Father and claiming it was from Palin is full of schadenboner goodness reading the comments about how stupid Palin is on and on and on and then the butthurt when oh hey sorry that's Obama.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 20, 2012 03:13 PM (Gk3SS)

17 Posted by: Vic at November 20, 2012 07:07 PM (YdQQY) I'm with you Vic, I didn't see a problem. He even did what we screamed about during Akin/Mourodck. "I don't know how old the earth is and what in the world does that have to do with an anemic GDP?" I thought it was a great response.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:13 PM (GEICT)

18 Haha. Well played indeed. Someone needs to inform the authors of 99.8% of the comments to Ross Douthat's piece in the NYT today that Broncobama is a mouth breathing, witch burning neanderthal not fit for office.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 20, 2012 03:13 PM (mg08E)

19 Yeah, the "Christian community" of Jeremiah Wright....where Barry and Mooch chose to take their kids.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:13 PM (UOM48)

20 Six days? More like three weeks. The instructions were all written in Chinglish.

Posted by: The Almighty at November 20, 2012 03:14 PM (QKKT0)

21 >>>it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part

Funny the tag "of which I'm a part" you only say that if you either think the person listening doesn't know or believe that you are part of said group....Or you are having dupers doubt and feel the need to oversell your inclusion in the group because you really aren't part of it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 20, 2012 03:14 PM (0q2P7)

22 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 20, 2012 07:13 PM (Gk3SS) No fucking way. They did that??? It just moved.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:14 PM (GEICT)

23 Credit where credit is due. There still an amateur leftist webzine. (Or was that Salon?)

Posted by: LibertarianJim (#teamletitburn) at November 20, 2012 03:14 PM (/3xt8)

24 Well-played, Slate. Well-played.

Posted by: Ace at 07:02 PM ------------ Yeah, Ace...but strange. Slate, actually being 'fair'? Are pigs flying yet?

Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 03:14 PM (ICEh3)

25 I'm about to catch hell. I know and I accept that fact.

I think this is more like apples and watermelons.

Obama did answer the question and, I think, it was a decent answer.

Rubio did not other than to say he isn't a scientist and it has nothing to do with economics.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:14 PM (piMMO)

26 How does that belief contradict evolution? Or is even a belief in God contrary to evolution? You know who also said this? That famous paleontologist at Harvard whose name I forgot. He said it on Oprah. Saw it about 35 years ago.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 20, 2012 03:15 PM (MazXE)

27 I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part.

That would be the Amerikkka-hating, Jooo-hating, muzzie-loving Christian community.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2012 03:15 PM (QKKT0)

28 No fucking way. They did that???

It just moved.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 07:14 PM (GEICT)

I can't remember if it was Slate or someone else but yup, the first paragraph of Dreams of My Father was posted in full with omfg Palin is an idiot this is crap (because it is). The comments were gleefully ripping her when oh wait sorry Obama was added. Wailing, gnashing, weeping and on and on ensued. It. Was. Awesome.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 20, 2012 03:16 PM (Gk3SS)

29 Hostess dissolution back on, FWIW.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at November 20, 2012 03:17 PM (ON54M)

30 Soooooo, it took the big guy, say, 600,000 years -- but he did create it. That whatcha sayin'? And presumably, he took the next 100,000 years off and worked on his handicap?

Gotcha. Now about this ark with two of every critter, including Mongolian beetles, of which there are at least 900 varieties within a single species ...

I really do start to believe those surveys that say our benighted republic will elect a child abuser as president before an atheist. But it'll probably be longer before our even-more-benighted press asks a coherent follow-up question about literal bible interpretation.

Posted by: Valjean at November 20, 2012 03:17 PM (8kKYd)

31 Rubio did not other than to say he isn't a scientist and it has nothing to do with economics. Yes he did answer the question. He said "I don't know." he just didn't use 3 times the number of words to say it like TFG did. Boiled down, their answers are basically the same. "I don't know."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:17 PM (GEICT)

32 Argh. They're, not there. Loose shit.

Posted by: LibertarianJim (#teamletitburn) at November 20, 2012 03:17 PM (/3xt8)

33 Hannity did this sort of thing to Juan Williams about a year ago. Only he quoted something about the economy or budget talks that Barack Obama had said years before and passed it off as Eric Cantor's remarks. Williams typically crapped on the remarks and then Hannity told him it was Obama's. It was fun to watch Juan speechless. This is definitely what more conservatives should do to liberal liars.

Posted by: Mo the Girl at November 20, 2012 03:18 PM (6KsL8)

34 Voter: What's that strange taste?

Obama: What are you going to believe? Me or those lying taste buds in your mouth?

MSM: What he said.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 20, 2012 03:18 PM (kqqGm)

35 Hannity did this sort of thing to Juan Williams about a year ago. Only he quoted something about the economy or budget talks thatBarack Obama had said years beforeand passed it off as Eric Cantor's remarks. Williams typically crapped on the remarks and then Hannity told him it was Obama's. It was fun to watch Juan speechless.

Dirty pool, man. And it probably violates some federal law.

Posted by: Hwaaun Williams at November 20, 2012 03:20 PM (QKKT0)

Rubio should've just said..."That's above my pay grade".

Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 03:20 PM (ICEh3)

37 Dirty pool, man. And it probably violates some federal law. It's def racist.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:21 PM (GEICT)

29 Hostess dissolution back on, FWIW.

The talks failed?

Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 03:22 PM (ICEh3)

39 Rubio should've just said..."That's above my pay grade".

****

eeesh

Can't be caught providing a Christian viewpoint on that one, can he?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:22 PM (piMMO)

40 I wish Barak would just give me six minutes.

Posted by: Reggie Love at November 20, 2012 03:22 PM (VrVBw)

41 33 Hannity did this sort of thing to Juan Williams about a year ago. Only he quoted something about the economy or budget talks thatBarack Obama had said years beforeand passed it off as Eric Cantor's remarks. Williams typically crapped on the remarks and then Hannity told him it was Obama's. It was fun to watch Juan speechless. This is definitely what more conservatives should do to liberal liars.

Posted by: Mo the Girl at November 20, 2012 07:18 PM (6KsL

I can't remember where I saw it, maybe here, but there's a video of a guy who goes out on the streets of NYC(?) and asks people if they agree with some 'Romney' position or policy. Of course, he gets a whole lotta 'ZOMG!!! NO! HATE THAT!'.

He then tells the people that the position or policy he just told them about was Obama's. Lots of stuttering going on......

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2012 03:22 PM (X6akg)

42 Dirty pool, man. And it probably violates some federal law.

Posted by: Hwaaun Williams at November 20, 2012 07:20 PM (QKKT0)

It is terribly awful to accurately quote a Leftist.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 20, 2012 03:23 PM (Gk3SS)

"Dirty pool, man. And it probably violates some federal law."

Yup, Hannity is white and going to Hell for that one.

Posted by: Mo the Girl at November 20, 2012 03:23 PM (6KsL8)

44 Damn, I was just getting into the no politics thread, but new threads always kill the old

Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2012 03:23 PM (wwsoB)

45 Hmmm. Well, it's always annoying when someone you dislike says something you find agreeable. And yeah, the double standard. It rapes us.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:24 PM (hhVWg)

46 42 It is terribly awful to accurately quote a Leftist. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 20, 2012 07:23 PM (Gk3SS) If you do it in an email, they'll know about it. If you post a video about it, you'll be branded as an instigator of international violence and jailed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:25 PM (GEICT)

47 My God, what would happen if a new thread were to be used where there was already a thread?

Posted by: Dr Leonard McCoy at November 20, 2012 03:25 PM (wwsoB)

48 Hostess talks unsuccessful.

They won't comment until 1100 (noon EST) tomorrow.

http://bit.ly/ScVfhW

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:25 PM (piMMO)

Marco Rubio-Tom Cotton 2016!!!!!!!!

And suck it because it's germane!!!

Nice nice post Ace, friggin hilarious.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 03:26 PM (tVTLU)

50 Mooch:

Â“What I notice about men, all men, is that their order is me, my family, God is in there somewhere, but me is first.Â” Â—

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:26 PM (UOM48)

Six days? More like three weeks. The instructions were all written in Chinglish

Woah! God bought the earth at Ikea?

Posted by: fluffy ducks the lightning at November 20, 2012 03:27 PM (O6q63)

52 From the comments at Slate: The one issue that everyone seems to have overlooked is that Obama is probably a closet atheist or, at worst, an agnostic. He's a bit too smart for this religion mumbo jumbo. This, by the way, is a good thing. I have little doubt that this fact will come out years from now in one of the many books he will no doubt write.

He merely pretends to be religious because that is what contemporary American politics requires.

So, they accept that Barry is a liar and a hypocrite and aren't just okay with that, they admire it.

Posted by: huerfano at November 20, 2012 03:27 PM (bAGA/)

53 Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 07:26 PM (tVTLU) You do realize that all you're accomplishing is making people have an irrational aversion to Tom Cotton, right?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:27 PM (hhVWg)

54 Hostess dissolution back on, FWIW.

****

Sorry. Beat me to it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:27 PM (piMMO)

55 Proof positive: the Enemedia runs the show.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 20, 2012 03:28 PM (9ghZ6)

I am in mourning over Allen West losing his seat.

Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 03:28 PM (ICEh3)

57 56
I am in mourning over Allen West losing his seat.

I think we all are.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:29 PM (UOM48)

58 Hostess dissolution back on, FWIW.

The value of my Ding Dong hoard just pegged the meter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2012 03:29 PM (QKKT0)

59 12 yeah, but when obama sez it it's NUANCED Posted by: jd at November 20, 2012 07:10 PM (DGhcv) Yesssss....the most nuancy nuance that has been nuanced EVARH!!!!11!!!1!!eleventybillion!!111 I am floating on a purple sea of raptured nuance for my Lightbringer.

Posted by: Precious Liberal Child at November 20, 2012 03:29 PM (Zi119)

60 "50 Mooch: Â“What I notice about men, all men, is that their order is me, my family, God is in there somewhere, but me is first.Â” Â— Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 07:26 PM (UOM4

" Well, I don't necessarily disagree.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:29 PM (hhVWg)

61 The fuck? Obama is anti-science, religious zealot? Well, the left has an answer for that. Obama gets to wink wink, nudge nudge believe that he's lying for the benefit of the stupid flyover voters. Obama still gets to be all things to all people. We lose.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 20, 2012 03:29 PM (QxSug)

62 Yes he did answer the question. He said "I don't know." he just didn't use 3 times the number of words to say it like TFG did. Boiled down, their answers are basically the same. "I don't know."

****

Yes....and no.

Either way, it was a COMPLETELY bullshit question, so I don't know that, in context, it deserved an answer.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:29 PM (piMMO)

63 I am in mourning over Allen West losing his seat.

After the complete catastrophe of November 6, it's like kicking the corpse.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 20, 2012 03:30 PM (QKKT0)

64 This is really a non-issue. If I was a politician and was asked this question, I would refuse to give any answer and say, "This has no bearing on my job as a public servant."

Personally I am ambivalent about evolution. I am a Christian, and I am open to the idea of divine evolution, but I neither accept nor reject it. Whether Adam and Eve is a historical account or a metaphorical account doesn't affect the core of my faith -- the inherently sinful nature of man and the need for Christ's sacrifice.

By the way, the above response would also apply if I was asked about gay marriage and abortion. I'd say, "Those are issues for the states, not the president."

Posted by: Little Lebowski Urban Achiever at November 20, 2012 03:30 PM (8LCi0)

65 The value of my Ding Dong hoard just pegged the meter.

****

I just popped some Golden Cakes into the fridge to defrost.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:30 PM (piMMO)

66 >>>I am in mourning over Allen West losing his seat.

If Bachmann lost her seat, I would be upset. West? Yeah, he'll be back. We haven't heard the last of Col Allen West, not by a long shot.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 20, 2012 03:31 PM (0q2P7)

67
So, they accept that Barry is a liar and a hypocrite and aren't just okay with that, they admire it.

Posted by: huerfano at November 20, 2012 07:27 PM (bAGA/)

Not only do they admire it, they admire that he's a liar and a hypocrite about RELIGION. They consider it justifiable because the 'American rubes' require the religious 'mumbo jumbo'.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2012 03:31 PM (X6akg)

68 All religious questions should just be answered with Alabama just needs to run between the tackles. Just pound it in there. Get a hat on a hat and wear them out.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2012 03:31 PM (QupBk)

69 I am in mourning over Allen West losing his seat.

****

he put up a valiant and worthwhile fight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:31 PM (piMMO)

70 Someone said dirty pool and I concur. to a liberal, accurately quoting someone is the worst sin possible. That's why they return the favor by always characterizing what we said. Like when ever they try to slam Rush, they summarize what he said, they never play the quote.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 20, 2012 03:31 PM (QxSug)

71 Oh yeah, the comments at Slate are hilarious in their attempts at rationalizations and justifications. They mostly consist of "Wait wait Rubio and Obama weren't asked *exactly* the same question in *exactly* the same setting by *exactly* the same person at *exactly* the same hour and they didn't answer *exactly* in the same way so they aren't equivalent and therefore I can go back to relying on my preconceived bias of Rubio as a right-wing science-hating freakazoid and I can continue to love and admire Obama for his rational pro-science scienciness."

Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2012 03:32 PM (d/5qf)

72 Get ready, ESPN: Rupert MurdochÂ’s News Corp is coming after you. Today, News Corp announced that it would buy a 49 percent stake in the YankeesÂ’ YES Network. The deal also includes an option to buy up to 80 percent of the company. The Yankees will own just 25 percent of the company. YES has 15 million subscribers, and is largely regional. All that could change under the auspices of Fox, which has long attempted to create regional rivals to the larger and more powerful ESPN. News Corp already owns major chunks of 20 regional sports networks, with over 67 million subscribers. Bloomberg reports: News Corp. is assembling the required rights from pay-TV carriers and sports organizations Â…. While a final decision to move forward hasnÂ’t been made, the company is considering converting its Fuel action-sports network to the new channel, two of the people said. With a national network, Fox would join Comcast Corp. (CMCSA)Â’s NBC Sports Network and CBS Corp. (CBS)Â’s CBS Sports Network in taking on the dominant ESPN. News CorpÂ’s involvement in the sports entertainment field would be a massive step forward for competition in the marketplace. They already own the rights to broadcast Dodger games in Los Angeles. For too long, ESPN has held a full monopoly Â– and it has had some political consequences, with ESPN routinely taking the liberal line on everything from ownership/union disputes to touting of President Obama. See everything IS Political!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2012 03:32 PM (79ueO)

73 Every GOP person shoulda fought like Allen. Look at all the craziness he uncovered just by looking.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 20, 2012 03:32 PM (QxSug)

74 I am in mourning over Allen West losing his seat. **** he put up a valiant and worthwhile fight. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 07:31 PM (piMMO) I suspect we have not heard the last of him.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2012 03:32 PM (79ueO)

75 I see Allen West and FOX as a good fit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2012 03:33 PM (79ueO)

76 Let It Burn: The Twinkie War

Hostess Mediation Fails, Liquidation To Proceed; Furious Laid Off Workers Now Turn On Labor Union

http://tinyurl.com/b538fw3

Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2012 03:34 PM (wwsoB)

77 I don't normally listen to Hannity, put riding around this afternoon I did and decided he has the patience of Job.

An Obamabot woman called him to gloat, and said, "You should be writing President Obama a 'thank-you' note because you'll still have a job the next four years." She then went on to call Allen West a "cry baby."

These people are not only stupid, but evil.

He was so calm and kind. I would have completely lost it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:35 PM (UOM48)

75 I see Allen West and FOX as a good fit

They should give him Huckabee's timeslot.

Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 03:35 PM (ICEh3)

79 At my church we had Mumbo Gumbo at the pot-luck dinner once

Posted by: at November 20, 2012 03:36 PM (BAnPT)

MUMR:

You of all people should get behind the ticket of dreams!!

Anyway, what this goes to show us is that despite our wringing of hands that only pubs are asked these gotcha questions, it turns out that zero was asked as well (although admittedly in much softer tones, i.e., bringing his kids into it rather than just a straight out 7 word question as to the age of the Earth). And guess what, he gave the perfect bullshit politician waffle answer.

And guess what, our people should be fucking prepared to do the same!!!! Rubio's answer was perfect.

So buck up, and defend yourself against these kinds of questions. The big one will be evolution right? There is no evidence of special evolution AT ALL. All the evidence is to the contrary. But wait until the lefties go nuts on this one. It's a bigger religion for them than global warming or climate change.

SIDE NOTE: Just goes to show how dumb these hippie fucks are. Climate change is never wrong because temperatures always CHANGE. But they are stuck with their global warming bullshit. hilarious.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 03:36 PM (tVTLU)

81 "71 Oh yeah, the comments at Slate are hilarious in their attempts at rationalizations and justifications. They mostly consist of "Wait wait Rubio and Obama weren't asked *exactly* the same question in *exactly* the same setting by *exactly* the same person at *exactly* the same hour and they didn't answer *exactly* in the same way so they aren't equivalent and therefore I can go back to relying on my preconceived bias of Rubio as a right-wing science-hating freakazoid and I can continue to love and admire Obama for his rational pro-science scienciness." Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2012 07:32 PM (d/5qf) " "(Pro)-science" is just a status marker. That's all Leftists really understand. Prestige. And Stigma. They have a completely vertical view of the world. What is in, and what is out. What is hot, and what is not. Etc.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:36 PM (hhVWg)

82 You guys are coming around, as I said you would. You're getting antsy. Hungry for revenge. 2014. 2014.

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2012 03:36 PM (DlaLh)

83 Getting lectured on Christianity by people that have no knowledge of Christian theology or even simply what a Christian is, is insulting yet a topic these asshole can't resist.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2012 03:37 PM (GZitp)

84 So, they accept that Barry is a liar and a hypocrite and aren't just okay with that, they admire it. Posted by: huerfano at November 20, 2012 07:27 PM (bAGA/) Yep! 21st Century Politics, baaaay-bee. Wake up, you wingnutz!!!11!! We am educated and shit.

Posted by: Precious Liberal Child at November 20, 2012 03:38 PM (Zi119)

85 ANNA!!! PLEASE CHK ON IAM HE'S IN PAIN AGAIN IM ON A PLANE ILL CHK WITH YOU WHEN I LAND....

Posted by: phoenixgirl headed somewhere west at November 20, 2012 03:38 PM (DJceH)

86 Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 07:36 PM (tVTLU) I have nothing against Cotton. Either what I said went over your head, or you are trolling.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:39 PM (hhVWg)

87 I can't think of a single lefty-slanted movie where the 'hero' makes the ultimate sacrifice. Ony righty-slanted movies have those types of heroes. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2012 03:39 PM (39q3n)

88 They should give him Huckabee's timeslot.
Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 07:35 PM

Huckabee's liver would fit nicely in a Hobo

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 20, 2012 03:39 PM (BAnPT)

89 Soothie, when we lose all 20 seats in 2014, maybe then the GOP will take voter fraud seriously. Or, who knows, maybe we can find 20 Christine O'Donnells to run. Girls that can't focus on things like the economy or whatever big deal will be in 2 years. Like legalizing the consumption of road kill and promulgating the caloric value of small stones as food prices quintuple.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 20, 2012 03:40 PM (QxSug)

90 Fuck Allen West on Fox. Get his ass on a bus and have him go on a tour. Speak as often as possible about ConservatiSm and it's values. I believe that's been done with some success before.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:40 PM (GEICT)

91 "82 You guys are coming around, as I said you would. You're getting antsy. Hungry for revenge. 2014. 2014. Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2012 07:36 PM (DlaLh) " Personally, I'm more interested in victory. Revenge isn't worth anything.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:40 PM (hhVWg)

92 I see Allen West and FOX as a good fit

*****

Cols. Hunt and North are regulars and North has his own program.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:40 PM (piMMO)

MUMR:

You should read about 15 of my posts to know that I am not trolling.

LIghten up Francis!!

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 03:40 PM (tVTLU)

94 Now about this ark with two of every critter, including Mongolian beetles, of which there are at least 900 varieties within a single species ...

If you've ever cracked open a Bible, you might notice that the account of Noah's ark never says that Noah took two of every species, which makes your "scientific" objection moot.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 20, 2012 03:40 PM (sGtp+)

95 From the Link a Hostess driver in Detroit and a member of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, was in the process of moving to a cheaper condominium on Tuesday, after his union had agreed to an 8% pay cut that he said would shave $200 a week from his income. So these Teamster guys were bringing home $2500 a week? Yeah, I'd be pissed at the Baker's Union.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2012 03:40 PM (QupBk)

96 I wonder what ObamaPhoneLady's answer would be on the age of the earth?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 20, 2012 03:41 PM (QxSug)

97 85 ANNA!!!

PLEASE CHK ON IAM HE'S IN PAIN AGAIN IM ON A PLANE ILL CHK WITH YOU WHEN I LAND....

Posted by: phoenixgirl headed somewhere west at November 20, 2012 07:38 PM (DJceH

WTF???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:41 PM (UOM48)

98 Fuck Allen West on Fox. Get his ass on a bus and have him go on a tour. Speak as often as possible about ConservatiSm and it's values.

I believe that's been done with some success before.

****

That or work him in Florida.

Welfare reform?

Voter fraud?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 03:41 PM (piMMO)

90:

Absolutely. Republican reach out programs. With his whole family going to black churches to preach the word of the philosophy of government and governance that will save this country.

It would be a great start.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 03:41 PM (tVTLU)

100 look at the 'heroes' in Civil Action, Erin Brokovich, Silkwood, etc. they were heroes because they were victims or helped the victims of evil white corporatists

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2012 03:42 PM (39q3n)

101

90Fuck Allen West on Fox. Get his ass on a bus and have him go on a tour. Speak as often as possible about ConservatiSm and it's values.

----------

He can do both.

Hannity used to do that.

Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 03:42 PM (ICEh3)

102 About liberals thinking it's okay to lie...

A liberal friend (and there are such things) came over to visit yesterday and at one point made a joke about Romney and the dog in the car carrier. I pointed out the standard that Republicans are held to--Obama ATE a dog, and proudly admitted being a cokehead, and that's fine. Romney put the dog in a carrier on the car (which the dog liked) and it's ZOMG Hitler!!!!1111!!!!!

She laughed and said "Yep, I know. Ridiculous, right?"

The left know about Obama;s faults. They don't care. They only crave power.

Posted by: Palandine at November 20, 2012 03:42 PM (g7D8V)

103 83 Getting lectured on Christianity by people that have no knowledge of Christian theology or even simply what a Christian is, is insulting yet a topic these asshole can't resist. Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2012 07:37 PM (GZitp) Get over it, wingnutz. We has sCieNcE!!!!!11!1 My erban studeez professer warez berkinstockz.

Posted by: Precious Liberal Child at November 20, 2012 03:42 PM (Zi119)

104 ANNA!!!

PLEASE CHK ON IAM HE'S IN PAIN AGAIN IM ON A PLANE ILL CHK WITH YOU WHEN I LAND....

Posted by: phoenixgirl headed somewhere west at November 20, 2012 07:38 PM (DJceH

WTF???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 07:41 PM (UOM4

I know, right?

Is 'Anna' Anna Puma....and who is IAM?

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2012 03:43 PM (X6akg)

105 83 Getting lectured on Christianity by people that have no knowledge of Christian theology or even simply what a Christian is, is insulting yet a topic these asshole can't resist.

Yeah no kidding. If I had a nickel for every time I read on the Internet some smug liberal asshole saying "hey you Christian wingnuts, if you want to be charitable to the poor, why do you oppose welfare so much?" I would be rich.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2012 03:43 PM (d/5qf)

106 Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 07:40 PM (tVTLU) I have read enough of your posts to suspect that that is precisely what you are doing. But prove me wrong. Stop the obviously-counterproductive Cotton spam. And we'll take it from there.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:44 PM (hhVWg)

107 joe, we're not losing in 2014

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2012 03:44 PM (LVtr+)

108 and who is IAM? I'd put off my sandals if I were you.

Posted by: toby928© at November 20, 2012 03:44 PM (QupBk)

109 98 That or work him in Florida. Welfare reform? Voter fraud? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 20, 2012 07:41 PM (piMMO) Start him in Florida. But this shouldn't be a Presidential election blitzkrieg. A slow, methodical march through the nation. Speak often, but not at burnout pace. Plus you burn people out on you. I think, in part, that's what happened to Palin. Total overload.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 20, 2012 03:44 PM (GEICT)

110 phoenixgirl, is everything alright?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 20, 2012 03:44 PM (d/5qf)

111

Old and busted: If a Tree Falls in the Forest, and there is no one there to hear it, does it still make a sound?

My Version: If a Man speaks in a Forest, and there is no Woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?

Media Version: If a Conservative says the EXACT same thing as a Democrat... of course he's wrong... and subject to ridicule.

See! Progress!

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2012 03:45 PM (lZBBB)

112 "97 85 ANNA!!! PLEASE CHK ON IAM HE'S IN PAIN AGAIN IM ON A PLANE ILL CHK WITH YOU WHEN I LAND.... Posted by: phoenixgirl headed somewhere west at November 20, 2012 07:38 PM (DJceH WTF??? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 07:41 PM (UOM4

" Yeah. Who knows. Life is full of unexplainable phenomena.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:45 PM (hhVWg)

113

104 ANNA!!!

PLEASE CHK ON IAM HE'S IN PAIN AGAIN IM ON A PLANE ILL CHK WITH YOU WHEN I LAND....

Posted by: phoenixgirl headed somewhere west at November 20, 2012 07:38 PM (DJceH

WTF???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 07:41 PM (UOM4

I know, right?

Is 'Anna' Anna Puma....and who is IAM?

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2012 07:43 PM (X6akg)

Yeah. Thanks, y'all...I was wondering what the hell that's about, too.

Posted by: wheatie at November 20, 2012 03:45 PM (ICEh3)

114

106:

Frankly, I have nothing to prove to you. So go somewhere else if you are going to continue to post nonsense.

And do we still believe in the First amendment or what for fuck's sake.

107:

Absolutely.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 03:46 PM (tVTLU)

115 Hey, phoenixgirl. You okay???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:46 PM (UOM48)

116 First, all of these people who "believe in science" have no idea what the scientific method is. We are now at the stage when one simply has to express fealty to some pronouncements from the "scientific community" even when they're wrong. Just remember, there is no Grand Unified Theory of Physics and physicists are actually smart and generally know what the hell they're doing, as opposed to climate scientists and geologists. Second, paleo-science is crap. Congratulations, you can predict the past! Well done, here's your cookie. We don't need no stinkin' quantifiability. Nobody said there would be math in science! Third, I guarantee that the reporter has no idea what scientists' latest pronouncement on the age of the earth is. The question he was asking was "Are you a new earth creationist or what?" Plus, how do you define when the earth was "born"? When it cooled? Even if you reject the Bible entirely, it's a dumb and UNSCIENTIFIC question. Fourth, the question is anti-Semitic. As I understand it, Orthodox Jewish belief is that the earth is 5773 years old, at least that's the official party line and why the date is 5773 A.M. (anno mundi). That's why this is year 5773 in the Jewish calendar.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2012 03:46 PM (T0NGe)

117

So these Teamster guys were bringing home $2500 a week? Yeah, I'd be pissed at the Baker's Union.

I did the same calculation, but I think the recently unemployed driver pulled the number out of his ass.

Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2012 03:47 PM (O6q63)

118

Get rid of Shep Smith or Geraldo in favor of West. I can tolerate Huckabee because I really don't watch the show and when I do he does have a few guests that are interesting. But I think Fox must keep Geraldo and Shep on to 'prove' that they aren't too right wing to all the idiot liberals out there. Whatever.

Posted by: Mo the Girl at November 20, 2012 03:47 PM (6KsL8)

119 and who is IAM?

I'd put off my sandals if I were you.

Posted by: toby928Â© at November 20, 2012 07:44 PM (QupBk)

---------------

Now that right there was funny.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 20, 2012 03:47 PM (P6QsQ)

120 >>>You're getting antsy. Hungry for revenge.

The only folks I want revenge on is the 73% of the United States that elected socialism either through apathy, stupidity, or outright desire to be ruled regardless of whether the rest of us want to be free or not.

I can walk down the street and look my fellow countrymen in the eye and say with about 3/4 certainty that I have antipathy for them.

LiB

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 20, 2012 03:47 PM (0q2P7)

121 Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 07:46 PM (tVTLU) Just as I suspected. Very well.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:48 PM (hhVWg)

122

116:

Absolutely, Karl Popper is briliant on this subject. And what a great way to question exactly when the starting point is?? I'd love to see the interviewers face on that one.

Even the decay of isotopes is in question. Again I posit that only absolute truths are in mathematics, because that is a spatial/temporal construct of our brains and thus the rules always apply.

In other words Pythagorus (sp?) theorem is just as true today as it was in ancient Greece.

But our concepts of physics, vastly vastly different and will continue to change. Brilliant hypothetical work was done by science fiction writer Orson Scott Card on these subjects in the Ender's Game series.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 03:49 PM (tVTLU)

123 we weren't supposed to lose 2012. Anyway, I like the idea that the lefties used this election of using low value air time to air ads. Imagine if we targeted low cost air time with small ads by dennis miller, adam corolla, or even Allen west to push our ideas a little bit.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 20, 2012 03:49 PM (QxSug)

124 OT: Have you all seen this? Bless his heart. http://tinyurl.com/bpm7zce I will never understand how this man was not elected. He killed it in the debates. He killed it at the Correspondants Dinner. He was confident and stately and presidential. The crowds at his events were bursting at the seams with enthusiasm. Obama's events were anemic. And yet, here we are. The more and more I think about it, the more confused I get about the Romneys taking residence in California. It is one of the most dysfunctional, screwed up states in the union. The economy is a mess; the taxes there are astronomical. New Hampshire seems much more their speed....lower taxes and some fresh country air for Ann. Or maybe Colorado or even a home in Michigan on one of the Great Lakes? California stumps me.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 20, 2012 03:49 PM (E1Vkf)

125 In other news, husband and I "adopted" two little underprivileged kids from our area for Christmas again this year.

Their modest gift requests range from "some warm pajamas and fuzzy slippers" to "a toy truck."

Puts all the crap we're dealing with into perspective.

I love buying for these little kids, and giving them more than they dreamed of.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 20, 2012 03:50 PM (UOM48)

126 Obama is anti-science, religious zealot? I'm becoming more agnostic because if there were a just God, I'd've seen Obama's transcripts by now.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 20, 2012 03:50 PM (T0NGe)

127 You know, most of these assholes in the media and government act as if they don't know what allegory is. Fucking hypocrites.

Posted by: Dirty Old Man at November 20, 2012 03:50 PM (O+LNZ)

128 Fine for Slate to do something like this *after* the election. Feh.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2012 03:51 PM (gBuIk)

129 why wouldn't they ask ANY dem how they feel about illegal wars v. illegal war?

then go to partial birth abortions as a query into their belief systems.

or about spending now v. boosh's term ?

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 03:51 PM (hX8cq)

130 Hell ask any DEM about the patriot act then v. now?

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 03:52 PM (hX8cq)

131

118:

Absolutely, I am very concerned that Geraldo is running Fox News Latino. I mean what the fuck. Why don't we just teach Anderson Cooper spanish and throw him on there.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 20, 2012 03:52 PM (tVTLU)

132 "127 You know, most of these assholes in the media and government act as if they don't know what allegory is. Fucking hypocrites. Posted by: Dirty Old Man at November 20, 2012 07:50 PM (O+LNZ) " No. They know exactly what allegory is. They also know exactly what power is. And they want it. At any cost. Especially to those whom they dislike.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:53 PM (hhVWg)

133 Remind me again which side of the political sphere is obsessed with people's religion.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 20, 2012 03:53 PM (P6QsQ)

134 ask them about Palin, follow up with Rice's womens rights and misogyny?

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 03:53 PM (hX8cq)

135 mamawinger, AND replacing religion with their own religious extremism

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 03:54 PM (hX8cq)

136 "133 Remind me again which side of the political sphere is obsessed with people's religion. Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 20, 2012 07:53 PM (P6QsQ) " The one for whom people's religion is an impediment to the total acquisition of power.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:54 PM (hhVWg)

137 The U.S. Department of Labor is officially observing Nov. 20 as Â“The Transgender Day of Remembrance.Â” Â“The Transgender Day of Remembrance [TDOR] will be commemorated in cities and countries around the world today, reflecting on those who have died as a result of fear, hate and transphobia,Â” Labor Secretary Hilda Solis said in a statement on Tuesday. Transphobia? WTF?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2012 03:55 PM (79ueO)

138

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 07:51 PM (hX8cq)

Nah.... my favorite is to ask them how they can be PRO Late Term Abortion, but ANTI the Death Penalty....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2012 03:55 PM (lZBBB)

139 in fact i'd like them to follow any Dem voting Catholic women around nd ask about voting for partial birth abortion.
ask Them to justify Their vote

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 03:55 PM (hX8cq)

140 "135 mamawinger, AND replacing religion with their own religious extremism Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 07:54 PM (hX8cq) " But of course. Vacuums are not sustainable. And opportunities should always be exploited...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 20, 2012 03:56 PM (hhVWg)

141 Romeo,

uhm, xactly

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 03:56 PM (hX8cq)

142

I think Niedermeyer's Dead Horse nailed it.

The answer he gave is the answer most Americans would give or at least respect.

Posted by: Hard Right at November 20, 2012 03:57 PM (uhftQ)

143 They were o afraid Republicans would be all Up in Their wombs.
while asking GOVT eiher of which could be GOP or DEM GOVT all up in their wombs

what happened to women saying we are srong women that don't NEED patronizing , But chance of equality, while coversely asking for special privaledges because we are such delicate flowrs?

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 03:58 PM (hX8cq)

144 They aren't going to ask anyone anything. They are all in the same group, the same family. They're in a clan, and they're protective of the clan. It's tribal, and we're not of their tribe. Their tribe = smart. Our tribe = stupid. So we get the antagonistic questions, and they get the protection. Their tribe has declared war on our tribe. Until our tribe can figure out a way to compete in the media on equal ground, don't expect anything to change.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 20, 2012 03:58 PM (P6QsQ)

145 good luck, the lefties still think comparing and contrasting abortion to the death penalty is the height of conservative logic paradox, as if our minds asplode at the thought.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 20, 2012 03:59 PM (QxSug)

146 the left -religious folks are freaky
the left- Obama is our messiah = not freaky and those halos are da bomb

Posted by: willow at November 20, 2012 04:00 PM (hX8cq)

147 "Yeah no kidding. If I had a nickel for every time I read on the Internet some smug liberal asshole saying "hey you Christian wingnuts, if you want to be charitable to the poor, why do you oppose welfare so much?" I would be rich."

I only say it because what the Old Testament has to say about anything is basically irrelevant when it comes to Christianity in general. It's just a primer leading up to the New Testament. What the Old Testament has to say about the age of the earth and it's formation means very little in Christianity. Unless someone is really into studying the Bible there ain't a Christian around that knows what it says about the Earths age, and they don't have to know it or care about it. I got no idea what the scientific consensus is on it either, couldn't even give you a ballpark because who the fuck cares? Yet some dork that uses this shit to discredit Christians decided this was the anti-science litmus test. It doesn't even make any sense.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2012 04:01 PM (GZitp)

148 The Left is just as religous as anybody. They claim that science is their religion, thats why they always say we are "anti-science." The problem is they only consider it science if it agrees with philosophies that appease their own selfish emotions. So in the end their religion is Idealism, and Idealism requires Faith just like our religion. F'n Hypocrites!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 20, 2012 04:03 PM (uvNSk)

149 Jesus was in favor of roads and bridges.

Posted by: soothie at November 20, 2012 04:04 PM (VgTUv)

150 Jesus was in favor of roads and bridges. And taxing the rich.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 20, 2012 04:17 PM (QupBk)

151 94 'monster.
Read it cover to cover -- some of it even in Latin (raised old school Catholic). But by all means don't let a polite question get in the way of your valiant defense.

You sure do have a creative definition of "every thing that creepeth upon the earth" (Gen 7:

. Though the concept of species is a tad past Noah's time I would presume they'd at least be worth a look -- at least the ones that creepeth. I admit I haven't "cracked the book" that explains how he could have ID'd them all -- much less collected them.

But then, I rather doubt any of my "objections" would cut any ice with you. See you during the next Big Flood. I'll be the guy in back with the beetles.

Posted by: Valjean at November 20, 2012 04:18 PM (8kKYd)

152 Slate=Howard Stern ?

Posted by: grease monkey at November 20, 2012 04:25 PM (VSWPU)

153 It's easy to confuse Slate with Salon. Slate: somewhat left-wing webzine. Salon: so-left-wing-they're-like-MSNBC webzine.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 20, 2012 04:33 PM (eEev7)

154 Hey, show some respect - that's easily the toughest question Barky has ever been asked by the MFM!

Posted by: sherlock at November 20, 2012 04:41 PM (f29LO)

155 This was funny!

Posted by: Gravas at November 20, 2012 04:55 PM (g7C10)

156 It doesn't matter what Obama says. His supporters and the media BIRM believe he's always on their side so they just don't get worked up about this shit and we shouldn't either but for different reasons. When he was claiming to be against gay marriage nobody believed him and as it turned no one should have.

Posted by: ADK46er at November 20, 2012 06:45 PM (hcRCp)

157 ACTUALLY, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF A SLY TO GET RUBIO TO APPEAR MORE LIKE AN OBAMA KNOWING THAT THE GOP BASE MIGHT NOT LIKE THAT... ANYTHING LIKE OBAMA - TO THE GOP BASE - MAY LEAD TO INTERNAL (GOP) STRIFE AS IT MOVES TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHO THE 2016 NOMINEE WILL BE IN A FEW YEARS.

Posted by: MiamiCuban at November 20, 2012 07:13 PM (gKz+d)

158 Bravo! A real cliffhanger and a great finish!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 20, 2012 09:12 PM (DBH1h)

159 Read it cover to cover -- some of it even in Latin (raised old school Catholic). But by all means don't let a polite question get in the way of your valiant defense.

You sure do have a creative definition of "every thing that creepeth upon the earth" (Gen 7:. Though the concept of species is a tad past Noah's time I would presume they'd at least be worth a look -- at least the ones that creepeth. I admit I haven't "cracked the book" that explains how he could have ID'd them all -- much less collected them.

But then, I rather doubt any of my "objections" would cut any ice with you. See you during the next Big Flood. I'll be the guy in back with the beetles.

A little late, but hey.

You are arguing that your "impossible" scenario is the only possible interpretation of the cited verse, when the account was written at a time when the notion of "species" was not defined or used.

You are trying to argue that the only way to preserve the diversity of animals we have today, is to have a copy of every single modern species living on the ark.

One very faulty assumption you've made is to assume that the only way to have all the modern species we have today from a Biblical PoV, is to have the same number of species in the past. Never mind that many modern species can interbreed just fine - identifying what a "species" is somewhat arbitrary.   I am not being creative about definitions - you are using the vague modern term "species" to make unjustified criticisms of the Bible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_Problem

Perhaps you feel a mocking tone is polite, but I'd like you to note that you're not as well informed about Biblical interpretation as you think.   So to provide a reasonable answer to your polite "questions".

1. The verse does not refer to species.    Your reading species into it is in error.    Genesis does refer to "kinds", but these are not necessarily "species".   "Kind" probably refers to animal types - think cats, dogs, birds, etc.

2. An animal "kind" can provide the genetic baseline for all modern species to specialize from.   All the different breeds of dogs we have today are a single species. A single dog "kind" can encompass all the genetic diversity of wolves and dogs.    There's actually not that many types of animals, and the existence of two related but incompatible modern species is not evidence against an ancestor "kind".    In fact, evolutionary theory argues that ancestor "kinds" must exist, though we're talking about very different time frames for speciation using different mechanisms.

3. It doesn't seem like you read the Bible cover to cover very carefully.   Gen 9:15.   " ... And the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh."    I'm not waiting for another Big Flood, but have fun sitting in the back with the beetles.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 20, 2012 09:38 PM (xHaTb)

160 Well played, Ace... Well played.

Posted by: skinnydipinacid at November 21, 2012 03:00 AM (WuCLB)

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