October 09, 2012
— Ace I don't want to link Buzzfeed, an amateur partisan blog masquerading as an online newsite, but I'll make an exception, because these gifs are funny.

Taranto has some fun with Sullivan's badly frayed nerves.
Let me suggest something that many conservatives realized after the debate: Obama did not do that badly. For Obama. He was the same listless, droning, exhausted-of-ideas scold we have seen for at least two years now (and maybe three).
He was Obama. This is what he is. He is not quick-witted. He is not, as I think I saw Mickey Kaus note, a wonk. He has never been a wonk, a detailed-policy guy.
He is a guy who speaks vacuously of hopes and dreams and change and fairness.
He always has been.
The problem, for the liberals, is not Obama. This is what you bought. This is your guy. It wasn't his A game, but it was something close to his B+ game.
The problem was Romney, who was commanding, fluent, reasonable, articulate, sharp-witted, warm, occasionally funny, full of ideas, full of facts, full of thoughtful, detailed criticisms of Obama policy (who the hell expected him to bring up, as an afterthought, Dodd-Frank's failure to specify what a "reasonably qualified" mortgage applicant was, and how that chilled lending? Obama sure didn't!), and, therefore, ultimately, full of qualification for the job and yes, full of gravitas.
That's the problem.
Not Obama. I repeat: This is who Obama is. He has never been this brilliant intellect and keen policy analysts liberals have, in their BubbleWorld, dreamed him as.
The problem is not that Obama is or was awful. The problem is that he is what he always is -- adequate and hardly ever more -- and Romney is actually on top of things, an accomplished executive with a winner's thirst for victory an an A-student's understanding of what victory requires.
So part of the extreme emotional deflation of people like Sullivan -- who only a few years ago called me a "frothing Caesarist" (I take that to mean a lickspittle for a Man on a White Horse) -- is due to their having invented in their minds a conquering hero, an Eternal Champion, a Mussolini-like figure of incredible prowess in all matters including sexual ("Mussolini breaks a new horse every day, and a new woman every night," an old Fascist saying went).
And he's never been that. He's been a very average politician, whose only above-average skill is giving a scripted, TelePrompTed address to people who already support him.
So for people like Sullivan, this is a bit of a bitchslap to their entire fantasy worldview, the day they saw Obama As What He Is rather than What They Fantasized Him To Be.
And they're shocked by this. They feel their psychical mooring-lines stretching to the break.
This is partly Obama's fault, of course. He encouraged this.
But it is much, much more the fault of people who pride themselves on being skeptical realists who permitted their minds to run to the magical and to the (frankly, blasphemously) religious.
I hate to defend Obama at all, but I have to say to his Religious Zealot supporters: This is your shit. This is your deeply weird, Great Man on a White Horse worshipping psychological hangup.
One of the most wonderful things which will come with a Romney presidency is that Romney will finally, once again, separate Church and State. The president, finally, will just be a man. Not a perfect man. Not a prefigurement of Jesus. Not a prophet and not a savoir.
Just a man. A good man, and a smart man. But ultimately just a man.
The fusion of religion and politics has in fact been every bit as deleterious as the liberals always warned us.
It's just that they were the ones who actually fused God and President.
I long for the days when elections were not about Salvation, and the Press Corps were not Acolytes, each vying to prove their devotion unto their Prophet.
As the heroes of The Man Who Would Be King discovered-- when a God is seen to bleed, things can go pear-shaped pretty quickly.
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Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 09, 2012 12:42 PM (d+GeR)
Posted by: CheshireLion at October 09, 2012 12:42 PM (zNDIM)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (e0xKF)
Posted by: John the Libertarian at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (bJQRu)
Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (t06LC)
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Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (8sCoq)
The problem is not that Obama is or was awful. The problem is that he is what he always is -- adequate and hardly ever more
You are too kind. Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: Super Grover at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (O6q63)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (wIgpo)
Also, enough with the eschaton immanentization.
Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: CheshireLion at October 09, 2012 04:42 PM (zNDIM)
That's going to be a great game. Go Cardinal!
Posted by: John the Libertarian at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (bJQRu)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 12:45 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: maddogg at October 09, 2012 12:45 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 09, 2012 12:45 PM (d+GeR)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Greg-Resident Troll with a small dick at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (F6KtL)
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Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (e0xKF)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (t06LC)
In the current incarnation of America, those things talk, and talk loudly. And a certain percentage of the nation will respond to their siren song.
What I'm trying to say is simple: it ain't over yet.
The only hope we have is for the Anointed One to be crushed, defeated so soundly that he won't ever think of coming out of his cave again.
Sadly, I fear that we have too many Poppin' Freshes, too many chairborne generals and too many Nice Guys on our side to make that happen.
We need to go all George Patton on the traitor in the White House. Anything less, and we will be coping with the disease the Left has foisted on America for many decades to come.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (wIgpo)
Literally?
Posted by: Chris M at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (b3vSq)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (VndSC)
But it is much, much more the fault of people who pride themselves on being skeptical realists who permitted their minds to run to the magical and to the (frankly, blasphemously) religious.
I actually blame the media. If it was doing its damn job, 3.5 years into Obama's presidency, the American public would not be shocked that he is nothing more than telepromter reader. Because if they had done their job, he would have never become President.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (C2//T)
Spot on. SCOAMF did his best, it just paled in close range comparison to Romney.
We witnessed an alpha male dominate a beta male for 90 minutes on every network.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (Pixxe)
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (mcWHD)
Taranto is a good read. I used to read "Best of the Web" all of the time until the WSJ buried it so deep in the Opinion section you had to hunt for it.
Posted by: AE at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (L5130)
I'm wondering where a new team would take their campaign narrative
they've already trotted out Mitt's taxes, Bain, Mitt's a liar, he wants to outlaw abortion, he'll murder your grandmother in the night, etc
where do they go?
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (8sCoq)
"The fusion of religion and politics has in fact been every bit as deleterious as the liberals always warned us.
It's just that they were the ones who actually fused God and President."
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This is the best thing you have ever written, Ace.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (P6QsQ)
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Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (e0xKF)
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Posted by: Bruce at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (JI+T4)
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Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Othered at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (EuW9O)
Because if they had done their job, he would have never become President.
I thought they were going to bury him when he whined about his fucking waffle.
Posted by: fluffy at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (O6q63)
In defense of Greg, we are reduced to just ONE troll. He has to do the lifting of dozens of handles both here and on HotAir.
It is a herculean task.
Posted by: CAC at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (TgBUJ)
@jeffzeleny: At Ohio St, will. i. am picks up Big Bird theme, playing Sesame St song. Crowd looks confused.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: ErikW at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (hEG70)
I can't take my eyes off that gif.
Also, I am somewhat concerned that everyone is making such a big deal of Romney's victory on Wednesday that there is no way he could top that.
I don't imagine the next debate could be any worse for Obama, so the media will be able to say he recovered or "got his groove back"
Posted by: Ben at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (C2Y4l)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (xAtAj)
Posted by: the Butcher at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (8g9qq)
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Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (e0xKF)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (jUytm)
Obama is the embodiment of liberal politics. Every time socialism is tried it fails. Every time. But, that's only because the right person hasn't been in charge yet.
Obama is the right person.
He has the credentials: Harvard Law Review, Columbia degree.
He has been well-connected since his childhood. He is at the top of the most meritocratic system we have for politicians. He got an Ivy League undergrad in social science and he went to Harvard Law. He was even elected president of the Law Review.
He is The Most Intelligent Man In The World.
And he is a SCOAMF. Even Obama couldn't make socialism work.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (T0NGe)
I'm shallow enough to be greatly bothered by the left's elevation of Obama's coolness and athleticism much less his faux intelligence.
That bench-sitting, girl baseball throwing, spastic bowling, high water pants bicycle riding , choom smoking uncoordinated big eared, skinny retard is anything but cool and athletic.
Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (/1U3u)
You are right that he did not do bad, for Obama.
This is also why it makes sense that he figured he had won the debate. He went up on stage, did what he always does, and expected people to love it, just like they always do.
Posted by: dan-O at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (sWycd)
PANIC: Romney signs in VA defaced, stolen and smeared with excrement..
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Barry Choombah at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (e0xKF)
Posted by: walrus at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (Qr/Eg)
Posted by: FCC at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (xAtAj)
I don't want to hear what they have to say, usually.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (UK9cE)
But after the past few days the humor on this site, especially the thread the other day with suggestions about what Mitt & Ryan could now afford to do, after last week's thrashing, have kept me in stitches and begun to restore my sanity.
Thanks morons!
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (zpqa2)
I realized what a cult Obama created when that whole stadium of people (and many colleagues and friends) lapped up the "
Posted by: PJ at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (jUytm)
We couldn't make it to the game and sold our tickets. Enjoy the Domers for me.
Go ND.
Posted by: LRBnSC at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (Qp3K5)
I've been saying that Obama is not a good campaigner. He is not a good debater. He was not good against McCain. The press simply declared Obama the winner and got away with it. It helped that he ran as a conservative tax-cutter who was against an individual mandate. But whatevs. Obama has a wonderful ability to step in it, to make things worse (e.g., his defense of PBS). He has none of the empathy of Clinton, the likability of Bush, the experience of Bush 41, or the resolve of Reagan. He has nothing. He was a blank slate for anyone to project what they want on him. And now he is simply a blank slate. He is nothing. He is going to lose and he is going to lose big. My guess is he won't even fight for it. He will wither away. He has no clue how to overcome adversity, how to persuade people to his side, how to fight.
Posted by: SH at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (gmeXX)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers "We are the ones we've been waiting for."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (5DR1j)
Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (q177U)
Posted by: ejo at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (GXvSO)
Posted by: King Putt at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (e0xKF)
When I put $4/gal gas in my car I don't give a good god damn rip about Big Bird.
You don't worry about him pounding on the trunk?
Chloroform. Good plan.
Posted by: fluffy at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (O6q63)
The whole religious imagery thingy with Barky has bothered me from the get-go.
Guys like Bill Maher, you know, athiests, were acting like accolytes to a religious figure. Not that athiests understand the religious aspects of that behavior, but they were engaging in it. Barky was their g*d and savior.
All the photos of Barky with halos around his head, all the blather about how Barky was a "Lightworker" and was sent here to heal the planet, shut up already!! We have a savior and it's not the phony grifter from Hawaii/Jakarta/Kenya and his gluttenous wife.
Posted by: Boots at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (neKzn)
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (mAm+G)
47 Shines with lies and smiles.
What exactly did Romney LIE about in the debate?
And when Liars say that someone is Lying...are they Lying about the Lying or Lying about the Truth?
In this case, I think it's both.
Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (zpqa2)
Projection.
His favorite Caesar was Hadrian.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (T0NGe)
"One of the most wonderful things which will come with a Romney presidency is that Romney will finally, once again, separate Church and State. The president, finally, will just be a man. Not a perfect man. Not a prefigurement of Jesus. Not a prophet and not a savoir."
You didn't know that my magic underwear comes with a cape? Or that I'm already having an architect draft up plans to add a temple spire? The Islamists have their Caliphate.... I don't know what the 1st Mormon kingdom will be named....
Posted by: Romneyous Prophetus at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (73P68)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (9+ccr)
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And half-black.
No, it's not racism Alec Baldwin that's keeping him from making this a blow-out--it's racism that's keeping him in it at all.
Let me name a few of the thing that Obama got because of--and only because of--his race:
Admission to Harvard as a transfer.
Admission to law school.
Editor in Chief of the law review.
His first job in Chicago (whatever they called it officially).
And each and every political job he has been elected to since then.
No. If he were a white man, he'd be less than Ward Churchill, a minor nobody at a nothing college.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: Arbalest at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (oCKSL)
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (GRSvh)
Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (xqxYO)
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That's because their natural inclination is towards slavery.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (GEICT)
this is gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (vjyZP)
Nice call back to the glory days of NR and YAF.
Posted by: Leo Ladenson at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (mAm+G)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (bxiXv)
You want to DEPEND on that happening?
That's how elections are lost, even when your side is running a high-class candidate. This is far from the time to ease off and relax. Can't do that until Jan. 20th of next year.
I repeat, beating Obama will be only a small step. {i]Destroying him politically has to be the goal now. He needs to be exposed for the America-hating failure he is, rendered helpless, powerless and made into a pitiful object that inspires only mean-spirited laughter even from his erstwhile supporters.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (ZgX/g)
So does this Jesus analogy make me the disciple Peter?
Should I be wearing ear muffs so I won't be hearing any cocks crowing?
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (XxAYS)
Posted by: texexec at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (r41fG)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (0nogT)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (BAS5M)
Wow, WTF:
Here's where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.
I knew that he had a creepy obsession with Obummer, but this is literally cultish.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (V0h2G)
@99
Even athiests need gods. They just replace them. You should read some Eric Volgelin sometime. Most of the liberal enterprise has an apocolyptic feel because in Volgelin's thesis they are striving to create heaven on earth.
Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (zxrQh)
Posted by: PJ at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (DQHjw)
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I understood how the Anti-Christ will attain power instantly.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2012 04:55 PM (q177U)
He does. He has more experience of making a fool out of himself than most other people ever will
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (1Jaio)
He bled after being bit by a hot chick. And Michael Caine promptly shagged her.
Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Redd at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (guxHP)
Posted by: Truman North at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (Ke2R2)
Posted by: ErikW at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (hEG70)
This was a battle in which Romney defeated the media, like Patton defeated Rommel. Obama played the role of Sgt. Schultz.
Posted by: sherlock at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (2DD2m)
Posted by: SH at October 09, 2012 01:02 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Joe Biden
Vice-President Biden, while that is impressive, and I really want to suck it, I'm going to have to ask you to put your pants on.
Posted by: Debate Moderator at October 09, 2012 01:02 PM (73P68)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (r2PLg)
Obama: "I killed Bin Laden."
Romney: "Libya."
Obama: "What about your 47% gaffe?"
Romney: "What about your Uncle Omar and Auntie Zeituni?"
End of second debate.
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (wAQA5)
Remember that Hillary won the popular vote in the top Dem electoral states NY,NJ,PA,OH,FL and CA and still lost to Obama.
Obama was selected by the DNC and not elected.
Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 04:46 PM (vjyZP)
erm you clearly havent seen Andrew Sullivan's Impression of the Obama Logo.
Do a search for GOATSIE but under no circumstances should you do this search from work.
Posted by: Big Bird at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (GEICT)
If the SCOAMT was just a buffoon, a political abberation, a bump in the road, I'd be able to just blow him off like a buzzing fly.
But he has truly damaged my country with his hate. And he has and still does encourage his minions to do the same thing.
I want him stomped. And I want everyone who still supports him and his ideals (I'm looking at you, MFM) to be politically mutilated beyond any passing recognition.
Posted by: Soona at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (GZmzv)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (wIgpo)
And by "swinging", you mean hitting on married women.
Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (HjPtV)
Romney was good, and he was new. And for anyone who thinks the last four years haven't been peachy keen, that means something. Obama started in about how he'd inherited such a mess, and then didn't lay out how he was going to do anything differently going forward.
He did try to attack Romney later, but when Romney rebutted those attacks--sharply--Obama repeated them without addressing the rebuttals. Pretty soon, the only *words* I was paying attention to were coming from Romney. With Obama it was his mannerisms, body language, and expression, but I was no longer listening at all.
Obama had about 10 minutes of material--OLD material--and he tried to stretch it out over 90 minutes.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (M2x4y)
If it's someone actually voting illegally, they had better cover their tracks really, really well.
Posted by: Al at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (wIgpo)
But then they're going to ask you to put your dick back in your pants
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Andy the DJ at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (KZi9D)
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (8kq7+)
All Paul Ryan has to do is somehow allude to Biden's last debate about FDR going on TV to calm the populace down after the 1929 market crash.
That is still today the most insanely idiotic thing ever said by a politician.
Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (m2CN7)
I think the same as well. I re-watched part of the 1st debate and the JEF was pretty much the same as usual. According to the UK Mail, he walked off stage thinking he won the debate. I agree too that he is a lazy, less than super smart man that epitomizes the "Post Turtle". For the first time in his life, he is feeling pressure--a lot of pressure. The next debate will be very interesting. Especially if they eff up his meds to deal with the pressure.
Posted by: eureka! at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (cTjRR)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 05:05 PM (QxSug)
Well if slow joe tries to bork Ryan. all Paul has to do is calmly refute him. Hysterics is not a winner...
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Dulce at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (Okd5n)
Posted by: Mamato4 at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (mhgGw)
112....His first job in Chicago (whatever they called it officially).
Civil Rights Attorney.
That's what it was called officially.
Which is also....all about race....and making money off of it.
Barky's shakedown of Citibank, in 1995 on behalf of ACORN...to force Citibank to make subprime loans...is what lit the fuse for the Banking Crisis.
So...you could say, that Barky's 'first job'....led to the Financial Crisis that got him elected.
Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: JDTAY at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (a0nis)
We wanted to, but our life insurance provider forbade us from covering the next Presidential debate. The risk that Matthews would have an on-air stroke was simply too high.
Posted by: MSNBC at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (jUytm)
BTW killer last sentence there Ace.
Posted by: PaleRider at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (dkExz)
And if you ever see a retarded chimp, run like hell.
Posted by: wooga. Totally not ripping off Daniel Tosh. at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (CHjVM)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (GBXon)
That bench-sitting, girl baseballthrowing, spastic bowling, high water pants bicycle riding , choom smoking uncoordinated big eared, skinnyretard is anything but cool and athletic.
Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 04:53 PM (m2CN7)
Yeah, that always bugged me, too. I got cut from my 7th grade basketball team (good thing--turns out I was really good at wrestling) and I'd put money on my ability to beat Obama in a game of hoops.
Posted by: Warden at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (QxSug)
That's what it was called officially.
Which is also....all about race....and making money off of it.
Barky's shakedown of Citibank, in 1995 on behalf of ACORN...to force Citibank to make subprime loans...is what lit the fuse for the Banking Crisis.
So...you could say, that Barky's 'first job'....led to the Financial Crisis that got him elected.
Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 05:06 PM (l5RhJ)
The only difference between Barry and Jesse Jackson is that Barry was successful at getting elected. Outside of that they are just self-aggrandizing shake down artists
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:09 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 01:09 PM (xqxYO)
@166
Anyone else read that story and think of the scene in Anchorman where Ron Reads "Go fuck yourself San Diego" and acts like nothing happens while everyone else realizes the magnitude of what just happened.
I can see him walking off stage telling Michelle "Well, that went well. Lobster?"
Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (t06LC)
I think the media is starting to come around to the idea that it will be a hell of alot more fun and profitable attacking a republican in the oval office then it will be trying to defend the numbnuts who occupies it now for the next four years.they feel they're better suited to attacking so why not jump ship now and look forward to what they love to do best
Posted by: kj at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (9g/ZD)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (r2PLg)
Another excellent post by our esteemed host.
I do, however, take exception to the idea that Obama has been "adequate". The guy has gone AWOL to campaign almost full-time, just like when he was a Senator, for cryin' out loud! We were attacked on 9/11, and the guy took of to Vegas!!
What you're touching on here, however, ist the stunning contrast we have in this election. One the one hand, we have the incumbant, who is remarkable for the fact of how far he has gone with hardly anything you could call a real accomplishment, and without even any real experience EVER running ANYTHING!
On the other hand, you have a guy who has been legendary for turning around financially-troubled organizations, be they private companies, a non-profit, or a state government. A guy who has vast amounts of executive experience. If the country buys a clue, and elects him, this may go down in history as one of those moments where just the right guy miraculously shows up on the scene, seemingly from nowhere, and by accident, at just the right moment.
A financial Winston Churchill moment, if you will.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (As94z)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 05:07 PM (jUytm)
Fredo Biden: I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!
How come my fingers smell like poo?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (1Jaio)
Yeah, that might be good advice if Biden had his usual 20 uninterrupted minutes of rambling to make a simple point that a normal person could make in 20 seconds.
I don't see the debate moderators being quite that forgiving though.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (SY2Kh)
I can't take my eyes off that gif.
Also, I am somewhat concerned that everyone is making such a big deal of Romney's victory on Wednesday that there is no way he could top that.
I don't imagine the next debate could be any worse for Obama, so the media will be able to say he recovered or "got his groove back"
Posted by: Ben at October 09, 2012 04:50 PM (C2Y4l)
Yes, this. Plus if Slow Joe is anywhere near coherent he will be awarded victory. Not. Over. Yet.
Posted by: joncelli at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (RD7QR)
I don't imagine the next debate could be any worse for Obama, so the media will be able to say he recovered or "got his groove back"
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>This is also why it makes sense that he figured he had won the debate. He went up on stage, did what he always does, and expected people to love it, just like they always do.
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Romney wins the next debates as well. He doesn't have to top it (but he probably will, because he has facts on his side).
See, put the JEF up there by himself and he would have been considered to have won. It was all there, the whole debate was the JEF shoehorning the greatest hits and applause lines from his stump speeches. You could see the wheels turning as he looked for which one to plug in. And the media and the crowds have loved them.
He is who he is.
And that's the problem.
Obama CAN'T get better--he brought what was, up until now, his A-game. Maybe B-, as Ace says.
That was the same debate performance that cleaned McCain's clock. That's why he didn't prepare and that's why he thought he won.
The pissed off look of he and Michelle at the end? That wasn't "I really f'ed up" it was, "Why the F is everyone acting like Mitt won?"
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (imtbm)
Remember that youtube of Cake's, "We are building a Religion?"
A better analogy is Homer Simpson opening the Church of the Fonz. How empty must these people's lives be?
Posted by: pep at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (6TB1Z)
But I thought Michelle hated wheatie???
Posted by: andycanuck at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2012 05:05 PM (HjPtV)
If they could collect more than a handful of commies or actresses together to do anything at all, they might not be losing so badly.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 09, 2012 01:12 PM (a4CUi)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:12 PM (r2PLg)
And if you ever see a retarded chimp, run like hell.
Posted by: wooga. Totally not ripping off Daniel Tosh. at October 09, 2012 05:07 PM (vjyZP)
You can't run from me! Just like Romey, your doomed!
Posted by: Greg at October 09, 2012 01:13 PM (ggRof)
Posted by: a love in at October 09, 2012 01:13 PM (LpQbZ)
"He is a guy who speaks vacuously of hopes and dreams and change and fairness."
You almost got it perfect .... I would have substituted out "fairnerss" for fantasies".
Posted by: jb at October 09, 2012 01:13 PM (z10eo)
Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:14 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: most treasured... at October 09, 2012 01:14 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (xqxYO)
too bad; the Pharaohs are mine
Posted by: Sam the Sham at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (8g9qq)
When asked to cross the aisle on policy reform, "I won," was the retort. Boom! Lazy, one-dimensional ideologue at the helm.
When asked, after pressure, to have a substantive debate in front of God and cameras and Congress, Paul Ryan ate his lunch. Whack! He flipped on his own DeafDumbMute button.
But hey, he sure has developed his backswing on his long game!
My God, the Smart Set are some of the most pathologically stupid people on the planet regardless of their ingrained sycophancy. Remember this after the election, too. They are to be forever mocked and ignored. Like TFG.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: most treasured... at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Janetoo at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (R+fMx)
Posted by: Uncle Milty at October 09, 2012 01:16 PM (8J5Ck)
It's interesting. Conservatives are said to have a fatalistic view. And we do. But liberals, in order to convince themselves that the freest system in all of the history of mankind is oppressive have to argue that "the system" or even life itself is rigged.
So they convince themselves that they are enslaved now.
Implicitly, they think they can never be truly free (deconstruction means redefining things like "freedom") and so why not get an enlightened despot?
I think Reagan really issued in the era of the optimistic conservative in two ways. First was his own sunny optimism, but second was that progressivism had turned into a dour philosophy as I outline above.
They used to think they could make the world better.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 01:16 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 09, 2012 01:16 PM (J7sV0)
Posted by: HULUGU at October 09, 2012 01:17 PM (JVBtw)
Pop Culture is only one facet (and a minor one, at that) of the power and resources controlled by Obama's people. If push comes to shove, the Marxists will shove and push to keep what they have.
Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2012 01:17 PM (HjPtV)
This is your deeply weird, Great Man on a White Horse worshipping psychological hangup.
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Wait a sec. Now Romney's supposed to be saving us *from* a guy on a white horse? I guess irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.
(look up "white horse prophecy" on Wikipedia)
Posted by: Anachronda at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (xqxYO)
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That's because their natural inclination is towards slavery.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 04:57 PM (P6QsQ)
Biden They're going to put YA'LL in CHAINS!! That's a good one. I might use it in the debate
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (bxiXv)
I have in-laws who are the textbook example of this, unfortunately they must have been saddled with an exceptionally bad case of it, because they still have some atoning to do I guess.
In any event, a fascinating psychological study I'm sure.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (zpqa2)
Obama enjoys (really, really enjoys) the perks of being the ceremonial leader. It isn't just the public golf, golf, golf, basketball, golf, and bowling. It's apparently a whole hell-of-a-lot of time spent becoming competent at all of the little perk-things he does so incessantly. And getting access to closed-to-the-public courses everywhere. And stars on his basketball team. Etc.
But doesn't have the first clue of how to be Prime Minister. Let alone President.
Posted by: Al at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (MzQOZ)
Make that four years. If you take a hard look at the Obama Administration and then go back to the 2008 campaign, there have been few new ideas since that campaign started. When Obama came to office, he sent to Congress calls (not bills) for the same stuff that he had been calling for since before the Panic of 2008. The only new, if you want to call it that, was the "stimulus" which really was just an excuse to spend, simply payback.
Posted by: Al Capone at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: traumakitty at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (c/Glr)
Posted by: Uncle Milty at October 09, 2012 05:16 PM (8J5Ck)
They have a lot of dysfunctional human garbage but not nearly as bad as those quisling fucks Schmidt and Wallace. I want those ambulatory butt-plugs' lives completely ruined.
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (H+enH)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (r2PLg)
Someone must have really been impressed with Obama when he was a college sophomore, because he sounds like one. Which suggests that's the point at which he began getting his sphincter licked, and no longer needed to engage in any more intellectual curiosity.
Certainly being President for 4 years hasn't added to it.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (TOk1P)
Impressive. First threadwinner (of what will likely be several) within five minutes of posting.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (eHIJJ)
182...The only difference between Barry and Jesse Jackson is that Barry was successful at getting elected. Outside of that they are just self-aggrandizing shake down artists.
True, they are the same sort of con-artists...
But Barky is far more talented and effective at demagoguery, than ole Jesse.
[Which is probably why JJ hates his guts.]
Barky had the gaul to declare that poor people were 'victimized' by the greedy banks who gave them mortgages that they couldn't afford to pay for....
Whe HE was the sonuvabitch who forced them to do it!
Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (l5RhJ)
This is one of those Moments in History where--if we make the wrong choice and take the wrong path--everything changes. ( in this case, turns to sh*t )
Seriously: If Sh*tbird is re-elected, we're screwed. I could use a lotta words to explain, but everyone reading this knows what I mean. You know how Bad it will get--and it will get Very Bad, very soon
It's the 3rd of July, 1963; the 4th-7th of June, 1942, the 6th of June, 1944
Christmas Eve, 1776, etc. Win or die. Win, or America dies
overly dramatic? Me no think so....
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (Dll6b)
Think Al Gore trying to be "passionate."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (MrO9M)
Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (WGmy2)
OT: Drudge has some links to Greeks protesting the arrival of Merkel.... in Nazi uniforms.
Anyone think that the Greeks would be in a much better situation if they were willing to put as much effort into, you know, actual work as they do protesting?
Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (73P68)
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (Dll6b)
Obama also flubbed trotting her out: "And then what youÂ’ve got is folks like my grandmother at the mercy of the private insurance system precisely at the time when they are most in need of decent health care."
Either these people are *not* like his grandmother (dead), or they are not at that time when they most need health care.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (M2x4y)
Yeah, same here.
After the debate I talked to a buddy who hadn't watched the debate. I suggested he give his liberal fiancee a call to console her over Obama getting his ass kicked.
He said there was no need, she'd become totally disillusioned with him.
In terms of the non-political, my mother- who rarely speaks about politics and then maybe just an offhand comment- went on at length about the debate and her desire to see Obama go.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Countrysquire at October 09, 2012 01:22 PM (GNaYV)
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:22 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2012 01:22 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Dave S. at October 09, 2012 01:23 PM (d4o2E)
You mean he's not?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 09, 2012 01:23 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: HULUGU at October 09, 2012 01:23 PM (JVBtw)
Kinda like Nathan Jessup, I think Joe Biden wants to say it, he needs to say it.
Posted by: Dave S. at October 09, 2012 05:23 PM (d4o2E)
Biden: Do what you want to Big Bird but keep you're hands off of ELMO!!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:25 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 09, 2012 01:25 PM (ZZPs4)
In Israel or Germany, he'd actually be president. They have a system where the president has a lot of the ceremonial roles as the Queen does in the UK. The only substantive role the president has is to arrange the forming of the coalition government. Most of it is automatic with the plurality party offered the first shot, but if the election is strange, then sometimes there's some work to be done.
Would he be good at it? Well, conservatives would hate him, because he'd be like he is now, just without any responsibility. A celebrity politician without accountability, largely unnoticed but not afraid to have opinions and express them.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 01:26 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: DeusExMachina at October 09, 2012 01:26 PM (6RTwM)
Posted by: Barky O'Genius at October 09, 2012 01:26 PM (QKKT0)
How is that supposedly the way for Biden to defeat Romney via Ryan by proxy--as only Fineman could say.
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I am praying that Biden reads this advice and takes it.
They were able to Bork Bork because, being Senators, they used all the time asking their question while Bork just had to sit there.
And the great eviscerating he mentions happened when Bork wasn't even in the building.
Like I said this morning, they haven't even game-planned their counter attack out at all. They just think calling Romney/Ryan a liar is a head-shot instant kill and the debate will be over.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2012 01:27 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2012 01:28 PM (jm/9g)
194.....But I thought Michelle hated wheatie???
Uh oh.
What did I miss?
Should I go into hiding?
Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 01:29 PM (l5RhJ)
STIMULATED
Growth In Underwear Sales Suggests An Improving Economy
Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 05:00 PM
When people are getting ready to hunker down they stock up on underwear, socks, bluejeans and shoes.
Just sayin'. It's apocalyptic
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 09, 2012 01:29 PM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:29 PM (WGmy2)
Everywhere else, the office of President is a figurehead to replace a deposed monarch--or the surviving monarch reigns but does not rule.
As Queen, Obama would be a disaster. A ''constitutional monarch" unites and represents the nation; Obama is the Opposite of That
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 01:30 PM (Dll6b)
And by God, Mitt had better not rest until less is left of Obama than the inscription that Ozymandias got as his ultimate reward.
Posted by: Voluble at October 09, 2012 01:30 PM (qYvEa)
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 05:30 PM (Dll6b)
Reggie Love: Oh he's a queen alright and a good one at that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:31 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Gmac at October 09, 2012 01:31 PM (IanLz)
Sullivan and his kind tried to destroy Sarah Palin and her family, and I want revenge. I want him humiliated, and I want that son of a bitch to experience defeat and loss, and I want to go over there on election night, kick him in the balls and piss on his pride. And I want him to know that for all his knavish tricks, Sarah Palin is still around, and Obama's career is over.
Posted by: section9 at October 09, 2012 01:31 PM (CUoon)
Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:33 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 09, 2012 01:33 PM (UyYYt)
I predicted that he would skip the FIRST debate. Why not? He'd've been stupid to debate Romney at all, regardless of Romney's skill.
And yes, at least one of these debates will be cancelled. They'll look for any excuse. They may even make it good.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 01:33 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Gmac at October 09, 2012 01:34 PM (IanLz)
Remember Dennis Green's epic meltdown after a game when he ranted at a reporter, "They are who we thought they were!" That's what this sounds like.
Obama is who we thought he was... a vapid Ivy League affirmative action baby who has never accomplished anything substantive other than being in the right place at the right time for white liberals to fawn over.
Posted by: The Regular Guy at October 09, 2012 01:36 PM (qHCyt)
Posted by: Tazman44 at October 09, 2012 01:36 PM (w3/i6)
Posted by: plum at October 09, 2012 01:37 PM (Z6itK)
Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2012 01:38 PM (rlFQ+)
i think this is a little simplistic for Sullivan, but it does get to the flaw in the Bush-era coalition, where certain people who were "conservative" in that they weren't rabid America-hating leftists supported the War on Terror but ideologically were still essentially center-left.
Posted by: JParker at October 09, 2012 05:22 PM (60GaT)
WAIT WAIT WAIT
Lets set the record straight.
ANDREW SULLIVANS ENTIRE FLIP TO THE LIB SIDE AND HATE OF REPUBLICANS IS THE RESULT OF ONE THING.
Andrew Milky Glutes Sullivan's penchant for unprotected ass sex with random strangers in bathhouses and alleys in washington DC led to him contracting the AIDS virus.
The Federal government had a strict policy of not allowing people with aids to apply for and become citizens.
Andrew blamed bush for that. He has been trying to get US citizenship for years but cant because he didnt have the brains to put a condom on what ever random guys dick was up his ass on any given night. Because of that policy he hates Rush and he hates conservatives now.
Moral of the Story?
If you are going to stick a cock up your ass, for fuck's sake put a rubber on it.
Posted by: Big Bird at October 09, 2012 01:38 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Decaf at October 09, 2012 01:39 PM (N8E86)
Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:39 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: CheshireLion at October 09, 2012 01:39 PM (zNDIM)
Posted by: President For Life Obama at October 09, 2012 01:40 PM (Db6BC)
Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:41 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: JParker at October 09, 2012 05:41 PM (60GaT)
haha....whoops sock off.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:42 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: backhoe at October 09, 2012 01:42 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Max Power
Exactly what I have been thinking.
Posted by: backhoe at October 09, 2012 05:42 PM (ULH4o)
Obama is gonna send Smokin Joe Biden in place of Obama
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:44 PM (ovpNn)
Re#269 Bigbird
Once upon a time, Andrew Sullivan was W's biggest fan. It was said that Andrew had Bush chip implanted in his head.
Then one day, Bush took a principled stand against gay marriage in CA.
The rest is history.
Posted by: RayJ at October 09, 2012 01:45 PM (pI/IV)
Christmas Eve, 1776, etc. Win or die. Win, or America dies
overly dramatic? Me no think so....
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 05:20 PM (Dll6b)
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Agree. This election is for all the marbles.
Posted by: Soona at October 09, 2012 01:47 PM (GZmzv)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 09, 2012 01:47 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 09, 2012 01:48 PM (QQcJv)
Posted by: Hepcat at October 09, 2012 01:50 PM (frbyY)
Re#269 Bigbird
Once upon a time, Andrew Sullivan was W's biggest fan. It was said that Andrew had Bush chip implanted in his head.
Then one day, Bush took a principled stand against gay marriage in CA.
The rest is history.
Posted by: RayJ at October 09, 2012 05:45 PM (pI/IV)
Marriage was the only way someone with HIV infection could get citizenship. THats why he was so angry when Bush said no to gay marriage.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:51 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: disa at October 09, 2012 01:51 PM (Zfbfs)
There is no way out for The Won. Nobody told him this is WHAT he won. BWAAHAHAHHA
Posted by: Fussy at October 09, 2012 01:55 PM (Y/2U4)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 09, 2012 05:47 PM (ck76k)
NO, its to hide his tripple chin so they dont panic and think he might actually EAT eat their dicks and subsequently run away.
It also helps to hide the hammer he uses for those that change their mind.
Its also a stand in for Michelle Obama for when barry stops by.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:56 PM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Hepcat at October 09, 2012 01:57 PM (frbyY)
GERG!!! GERG!!!!!
Posted by: Gerg's mom at October 09, 2012 02:01 PM (qxcKC)
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I believe that ace was referring to Romney. Read the couple of sentences preceeding that statement for context:
ACE: "One of the most wonderful things which will come with a Romney presidency is that Romney will finally, once again, separate Church and State. The president, finally, will just be a man. Not a perfect man. Not a prefigurement of Jesus. Not a prophet and not a savoir.
Just a man. A good man, and a smart man. But ultimately just a man."
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 02:05 PM (P6QsQ)
Adequate my *ss. Ask the former ambassador to Libya how adequate he thinks the Bammer is. Wait, he can't. He's dead.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 09, 2012 02:06 PM (PMGbu)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 09, 2012 02:15 PM (oe1aw)
Posted by: youdidnotjustsaythat at October 09, 2012 02:55 PM (4wu6B)
When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong – faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.
-Dune
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at October 09, 2012 05:08 PM (52QEX)
I think it goes beyond, competence, Ace--I think that the reason this debate had the impact it did is because many Americans saw for the first time a president who is not the alpha we demand he be. When looked at in this way, and put in the context of his crumbling policy of appeasement in the Middle East, it goes a long way towards explaining his reluctance to meet with strong leaders like Netanyahu, who would undoubtedly steamroll over him like Romney did.
And it has to raise the question in people's minds, even if as yet unspoken: in a head-to-head Cuban-Missile style confrontation with an alpha like, say, Vladimir Putin, would our daddy be able to beat up their daddy? Might he overreact, as weak men often do, in order to prove his strength?
A year or so ago, Drudge ran a photo of a helmeted Obama delicately pedaling a bicycle, juxtaposed with one of Putin holding a rifle. A lot of people dismissed the inference as ridiculous then; I don't think nearly as many would today.
Posted by: mkf at October 09, 2012 05:34 PM (Jyvq+)
Posted by: Peaches hates California at October 09, 2012 05:41 PM (kpCLl)
Posted by: tired at October 09, 2012 06:15 PM (cHc31)
Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at October 09, 2012 07:25 PM (WE5bx)
Next debate: no excuses. Obama knows what the stakes are. If he loses this badly again, game over, period. The 3rd one won't matter because, like Shaun Trende says, almost anything you do seems to reek of desperation at that point. Romney just needs to show up and nod sadly at the wreck of a formerly proud Lightbringer if we get to that point.
But taking the point of your post at face value, it's not that Obama didn't try, even if he tries, he can't beat Romney. I think a lot will hinge on how badly Romney dominates Obama, can he do so in such a way the press can't spin it as an Obama win, because then it's all "comeback kid!" and the "Americans love a fighter" and Obama is back up 1-2 pts, which is a win in this election.
We'll see I guess. I read about Ryan's debate prep and he's going to mop the floor with Biden. I would guess Biden is working on his laugh lines, because that's all he's going to get.
Obama is probably, for the first time in his life, desperate and panicked. He doesn't operate well in that atmosphere.
Posted by: docweasel at October 09, 2012 09:20 PM (h0KX8)
The Ohio SurveyUSA poll confirms Romney's lead in Ohio for the moment. At www.insidepolling.com we re-weight the polls to historical voter turnout party weights for 2004, 2008 and 2010 along with some averages and electoral vote projections. This gives the reader the ability to see what the polls would look like under a party weighting that more closely aligns with their view of the electorate as opposed to the pollster's bias.
Posted by: insidepolling at October 10, 2012 04:03 AM (mrFht)
What's going on here is very simple. There's a significant chunk of the electorate, maybe 5%-6%, who aren't wild about the idea of another four years of Barack Obama, but who had, until last Wednesday night, heard nothing but negative things about Mitt Romney.
In that one 90 minute debate, Romney successfully dispelled the idea that he was nothing but a cold, stiff, ruthless, vulture capitalist and let these voters know, in much the same way that Ronald Reagan did in 1980, that it's OK to vote for him. He's now become an acceptable alternative.
That's why the polls are moving in Romney's direction and that's why he will win on Nov. 7th.
Posted by: Danram at October 10, 2012 04:36 AM (JB0q2)
Posted by: Cuttingboardblues at October 10, 2012 05:08 AM (yRD3l)
Obama should have been ready to pounce and attack Romney's B.S., and clearly he wasn't. Maybe he was overwhelmed by the audacity of Romney's lies. No excuse though. Romney is well known as the teflon man because he has always gotten away with spewing garbage (exhibit 1: the Republican primary debates), and Obama should have been ready. But now that Obama has seen Romney's playbook and knows from first hand experience that Romney will say absolutely anything (don't be surprised if he claims that the Martians attacked the U.S. embassies in the middle east), I expect Obama will be ready for the next debate.
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