October 09, 2012

Snort: Andrew Sullivan Melts Down
— Ace

I don't want to link Buzzfeed, an amateur partisan blog masquerading as an online newsite, but I'll make an exception, because these gifs are funny.

Taranto has some fun with Sullivan's badly frayed nerves.

Let me suggest something that many conservatives realized after the debate: Obama did not do that badly. For Obama. He was the same listless, droning, exhausted-of-ideas scold we have seen for at least two years now (and maybe three).

He was Obama. This is what he is. He is not quick-witted. He is not, as I think I saw Mickey Kaus note, a wonk. He has never been a wonk, a detailed-policy guy.

He is a guy who speaks vacuously of hopes and dreams and change and fairness.

He always has been.

The problem, for the liberals, is not Obama. This is what you bought. This is your guy. It wasn't his A game, but it was something close to his B+ game.

The problem was Romney, who was commanding, fluent, reasonable, articulate, sharp-witted, warm, occasionally funny, full of ideas, full of facts, full of thoughtful, detailed criticisms of Obama policy (who the hell expected him to bring up, as an afterthought, Dodd-Frank's failure to specify what a "reasonably qualified" mortgage applicant was, and how that chilled lending? Obama sure didn't!), and, therefore, ultimately, full of qualification for the job and yes, full of gravitas.

That's the problem.

Not Obama. I repeat: This is who Obama is. He has never been this brilliant intellect and keen policy analysts liberals have, in their BubbleWorld, dreamed him as.

The problem is not that Obama is or was awful. The problem is that he is what he always is -- adequate and hardly ever more -- and Romney is actually on top of things, an accomplished executive with a winner's thirst for victory an an A-student's understanding of what victory requires.

So part of the extreme emotional deflation of people like Sullivan -- who only a few years ago called me a "frothing Caesarist" (I take that to mean a lickspittle for a Man on a White Horse) -- is due to their having invented in their minds a conquering hero, an Eternal Champion, a Mussolini-like figure of incredible prowess in all matters including sexual ("Mussolini breaks a new horse every day, and a new woman every night," an old Fascist saying went).

And he's never been that. He's been a very average politician, whose only above-average skill is giving a scripted, TelePrompTed address to people who already support him.

So for people like Sullivan, this is a bit of a bitchslap to their entire fantasy worldview, the day they saw Obama As What He Is rather than What They Fantasized Him To Be.

And they're shocked by this. They feel their psychical mooring-lines stretching to the break.

This is partly Obama's fault, of course. He encouraged this.

But it is much, much more the fault of people who pride themselves on being skeptical realists who permitted their minds to run to the magical and to the (frankly, blasphemously) religious.

I hate to defend Obama at all, but I have to say to his Religious Zealot supporters: This is your shit. This is your deeply weird, Great Man on a White Horse worshipping psychological hangup.

One of the most wonderful things which will come with a Romney presidency is that Romney will finally, once again, separate Church and State. The president, finally, will just be a man. Not a perfect man. Not a prefigurement of Jesus. Not a prophet and not a savoir.

Just a man. A good man, and a smart man. But ultimately just a man.

The fusion of religion and politics has in fact been every bit as deleterious as the liberals always warned us.

It's just that they were the ones who actually fused God and President.

I long for the days when elections were not about Salvation, and the Press Corps were not Acolytes, each vying to prove their devotion unto their Prophet.

As the heroes of The Man Who Would Be King discovered-- when a God is seen to bleed, things can go pear-shaped pretty quickly.

Posted by: Ace at 12:37 PM | Comments (301)
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1 I'm feeling so much less stabby today.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 09, 2012 12:41 PM (QupBk)

2 I miss the beagles.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 09, 2012 12:41 PM (QupBk)

3 Where is your god now greg?

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:42 PM (t06LC)

4 Shouldn't Sullivan be out chasing uteri?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 09, 2012 12:42 PM (d+GeR)

5 I'm checking out of politics for the rest of the week -- Just got tix to the ND v. Stanford game.  Go Irish.   Go Ryan.

Posted by: CheshireLion at October 09, 2012 12:42 PM (zNDIM)

6 3 for 3?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 09, 2012 12:42 PM (QupBk)

7 nay.

Posted by: toby928© hangs head at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (QupBk)

8 I long for the days when elections were not about Salvation, and the Press Corps were not Acolytes, each vying to prove their devotion unto their Prophet. --- When the fuck was that, back in the 20s when Coolidge got re-elected?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (e0xKF)

9 Great post, Ace.  Couldn't agree more.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (bJQRu)

10 Man that sully gif looks likes it was taken during a particularly large anal bead insertion.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (t06LC)

11 The problem, for the liberals, is not Obama. ___________________ No. The problem --as Rob Portman said--is Obama, Obama's "policies". Obama--The Placebo President. Hope and Change was snake oil.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (r2PLg)

12 That's right, they own him and they deserve each other.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (yvSVk)

13 Poll that, CAC.

Posted by: Andy at October 09, 2012 12:43 PM (5Rurq)

14 I just don't see any evidence that Obama is "a good man." He seems to be a narcissistic blowhard who is both ruled by resentment and plays on the resentments of others to gain the power he needs to pay off his power coalition of political thugs and unethical donors and bundlers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (bxiXv)

15 >Report: Shake-Up in Works at Obama Campaign Headquarters



weakly standard

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (8sCoq)

16

The problem is not that Obama is or was awful. The problem is that he is what he always is -- adequate and hardly ever more

You are too kind. Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Super Grover at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (O6q63)

17 I'm  going  to  come  out  swinging!  Be  ready!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (wIgpo)

18 I long for the days when elections were not about Salvation, and the Press Corps were not Acolytes, each vying to prove their devotion unto their Prophet.

Also, enough with the eschaton immanentization.

Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (vjyZP)

19 Just got tix to the ND v. Stanford game. Go Irish. Go Ryan.

Posted by: CheshireLion at October 09, 2012 04:42 PM (zNDIM)


That's going to be a great game.  Go Cardinal!

Posted by: John the Libertarian at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (bJQRu)

20 yeah, but Romney really served up that Grade A zinger, though hahahaha, he wants to fire Big Bird!!, hahahahaha!! oh that is damn good stuff, oh yeah

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (jUytm)

21 Nice Ace.

Posted by: traumakitty at October 09, 2012 12:44 PM (c/Glr)

22 Know your Portman , love your Portman-- The problem for Obama is now he has a record he could debate like a boss and he would still lose because his record--the reality--is crap. Has hit the skids. (Okay I think I paraphrased--a bit.)

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 12:45 PM (r2PLg)

23 Sullivan is not the only dumbass fooled into thinking da Zero was something special. I'll bet Krauthammer and Noonan can still taste da Zero's dick.

Posted by: maddogg at October 09, 2012 12:45 PM (OlN4e)

24 When they said Andrew Sullivan was butthurt, I thought... they meant something else.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 09, 2012 12:45 PM (d+GeR)

25 Err, no. Even though the man won a Senate seat and the Presidency, I don't think he was ever an "adequate" politician. Remember that whole "blank wall on which you could project whatever you wanted" stuff? Well, yeah. THe problem now is that the wall isn't blank. It is all covered with graffiti and shit. You try to project on it, it is all murky.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (/1U3u)

26 Hey guys, you see the new CNN poll showing Obama winning! WINNING BABY! Obama's gonna score Oiho like how I score chicks! And yes, Ace, my mom DOES count!!!

Posted by: Greg-Resident Troll with a small dick at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (F6KtL)

27 Sorry Andrew. And Gerg. Those skittle-pooping unicorns you seek just aren't available.

Posted by: Swanny at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (XzlBE)

28 Sullivan = goatse version of the Obama logo.

Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (vjyZP)

29 15 >Report: Shake-Up in Works at Obama Campaign Headquarters --- So... Walter Mondale's coming out of retirement to serve as an advisor?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (e0xKF)

30 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (5DR1j)

31 I keep reading about this Obama shakeup. It seems like that would be the worst thing to do. It feeds into the desperate narritive. That is if the MSM had a negative narritive against Obama besides he's too awesome.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (t06LC)

32 Agreed, Ace, but don't sell Choom Boy short. If he has nothing else -- and he is, personally, the epitome of the Affirmative Action dunderhead, promoted and pushed way past any ability he might have -- he can rely on two things: worshipers and money.

In the current incarnation of America, those things talk, and talk loudly. And a certain percentage of the nation will respond to their siren song.

What I'm trying to say is simple: it ain't over yet.

The only hope we have is for the Anointed One to be crushed, defeated so soundly that he won't ever think of coming out of his cave again.

Sadly, I fear that we have too many Poppin' Freshes, too many chairborne generals and too many Nice Guys on our side to make that happen.

We need to go all George Patton on the traitor in the White House. Anything less, and we will be coping with the disease the Left has foisted on America for many decades to come.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (ZgX/g)

33
Liberals: Flounder with dented Lincoln
Obama: Otter reminding them they fucked up by trusting him

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:46 PM (8sCoq)

34 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (6o4Fb)

35 14 I don't see where he has been an "average" politician. Unless "average" is dog whistle for present.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (GFM2b)

36 17 I'm going to come out swinging!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (wIgpo)

Literally?

Posted by: Chris M at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (b3vSq)

37 If you think Obama will be better in the next two debates, you're wrong. If you think Obama will be just as bad as in the first debate...you're wrong. Obama will be worse in the next two debates. Why? Because now he's shitting bricks.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (jUytm)

38 Liberals felt the same way after the debate, the way Bears fans feel after Jay Cutler throws 4 interceptions. But they are who they are.

Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (VndSC)

39

But it is much, much more the fault of people who pride themselves on being skeptical realists who permitted their minds to run to the magical and to the (frankly, blasphemously) religious.

 

 

I actually blame the media.  If it was doing its damn job, 3.5 years into Obama's presidency, the American public would not be shocked that he is nothing more than telepromter reader.  Because if they had done their job, he would have never become President.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 09, 2012 12:47 PM (C2//T)

40

Spot on.  SCOAMF did his best, it just paled in close range comparison to Romney. 

We witnessed an alpha male dominate a beta male for 90 minutes on every network.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (Pixxe)

41 http://bit.ly/Pm7Q4H

Sharp elbow alert!

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (mcWHD)

42 My God! It's full of threads!

Taranto is a good read.  I used to read "Best of the Web" all of the time until the WSJ buried it so deep in the Opinion section you had to hunt for it.

Posted by: AE at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (L5130)

43 Eleventy!~

Posted by: Yip at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (Mrdk1)

44 > I keep reading about this Obama shakeup. It seems like that would be the worst thing to do.


I'm wondering where a new team would take their campaign narrative


they've already trotted out Mitt's taxes, Bain, Mitt's a liar, he wants to outlaw abortion, he'll murder your grandmother in the night, etc


where do they go?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (8sCoq)

45

"The fusion of religion and politics has in fact been every bit as deleterious as the liberals always warned us.

It's just that they were the ones who actually fused God and President."


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This is the best thing you have ever written, Ace.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 12:48 PM (P6QsQ)

46 You have to include Christopher Buckley (heard from him lately?) and Brooks with the butthurt "conservatives".  What I find amazing with the zealots is that Obama has never said a thing during his soaring speeches that was memorable (and has made no memorable pronouncements during his presidency). 

Posted by: ejo at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (GXvSO)

47 Shines with lies and smiles.

What exactly did Romney LIE about in the debate?

Posted by: © Sponge at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (UK9cE)

48 In the current incarnation of America, those things talk, and talk loudly. And a certain percentage of the nation will respond to their siren song. --- A lot of worshippers will start jumping ship as it becomes apparent that he's well out of his depth. If he doesn't do exceptionally well at the Town Hall against Romney, he's fucked because that's the one debate he's most likely to do well at. He can't fucking defend his record on foreign affairs given the state of Libya, Egypt, and Afghanistan, amongst other areas, and Biden's going to get his clock cleaned by Ryan because Ryan will pick apart his bullshit.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (e0xKF)

49 I know he's a ginormous ass but reading that last night I just pitied him. He's clearly around the bend. I think it was a cry for help.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (pLTLS)

50 FNC reporting OHIO 48 Romney 47 TFG

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (8sCoq)

51

@44

Mormon, mormon, mormon....

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (t06LC)

52 Andrew Sullivan Fun Fact:

St. Andrew fantasizes about King Barry intercepting his joint.

Posted by: Fritz at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (vm7ot)

53 That post is gonna leave a mark, Ace. +10 internetz

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (a4CUi)

54 I'd totally let Sully stretch my anus for jihad.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Baghdad Gerg at October 09, 2012 12:49 PM (aHR5E)

55 The best part of this election so far, has been the lack of OBAMA!! eleventy in my mailbox every morning. My wifes libtard friend would email her glowing assessment of the purple lipped saviors "news" articles every freaking day. I would delete them every freaking day. She has not sent a single thing so far (knock on wood). I'm hoping that we run into her after the election so I can run her nose in it like she's a naughty puppy. LOOK...LOOK at what you've done to our country. Bad lib...BAD LIB.

Posted by: Bruce at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (JI+T4)

56 #40.  Exactly.  The world saw an successful American business CEO debate the mailroom clerk.

Posted by: traumakitty at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (c/Glr)

57 44 Where do they go? Down the Big Bird path?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (GFM2b)

58 they've already trotted out Mitt's taxes, Bain, Mitt's a liar, he wants to outlaw abortion, he'll murder your grandmother in the night, etc where do they go? --- Big Bird. And, no I only wish I were kidding.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (e0xKF)

59 Larry Kudlow was sucking his dick after he was sworn in also.

Posted by: Othered at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (EuW9O)

60

Because if they had done their job, he would have never become President.

I thought they were going to bury him when he whined about his fucking waffle.

Posted by: fluffy at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (O6q63)

61

In defense of Greg, we are reduced to just ONE troll. He has to do the lifting of dozens of handles both here and on HotAir.

 

It is a herculean task.

Posted by: CAC at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (TgBUJ)

62 As just read on twitter. So much lul'z ---

: At Ohio St, will. i. am picks up Big Bird theme, playing Sesame St song. Crowd looks confused.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (pLTLS)

63 "This is your deeply weird, Great Man on a White Horse worshipping psychological hangup." Presactly. There is something supremely disturbing about all of this. It's exposed a psychosis in a whole shit load of people who seemingly can't cope without a demi-god. And I thought I was fucked in the head.

Posted by: ErikW at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (hEG70)

64

I can't take my eyes off that gif.

 

Also, I am somewhat concerned that everyone is making such a big deal of Romney's victory on Wednesday that there is no way he could top that.

I don't imagine the next debate could be any worse for Obama, so the media will be able to say he recovered or "got his groove back"

Posted by: Ben at October 09, 2012 12:50 PM (C2Y4l)

65 Ryan, watch out for Biden's right hook! Retards are as strong as chimps!!!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (xAtAj)

66 I predict Joe Biden will astound and amaze everyone with his singular ability to have his foot firmly planted in his mouth at the same time that his head is up his own ass.

Posted by: the Butcher at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (8g9qq)

67 Good piece, Ace.

Posted by: USS Constitution at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (KqwSL)

68 Damn it, why are people always ragging on BubbleWorld? 

Posted by: Kevin Costner at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (dzCcw)

69 >>The problem was Romney, who was commanding, fluent, reasonable, articulate, sharp-witted, warm, occasionally funny, full of ideas, full of facts, full of thoughtful, detailed criticisms of Obama policy (who the hell expected him to bring up, as an afterthought, Dodd-Frank's failure to specify what a "reasonably qualified" mortgage applicant was, and how that chilled lending? Obama sure didn't!), and, therefore, ultimately, full of qualification for the job and yes, full of gravitas. Yes, yes he was. And the worst part for Obama is that he is going to have 2 more chances on national TV to give me a beat down and there's not a damn thing Obama can do about it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (TMB3S)

70

 

Obama will be worse in the next two debates.

 

There will be no debates under martial law.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 09, 2012 12:51 PM (ggRof)

71 Sullivan fantasizes about being Reggie Love.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (f9c2L)

72 66 I predict Joe Biden will astound and amaze everyone with his singular ability to have his foot firmly plantedin his mouth at the same time that his head is up his own ass. --- Joe's next position should be with Cirque de Soleil.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (e0xKF)

73 When I put $4/gal gas in my car I don't give a good god damn rip about Big Bird.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (jUytm)

74

 Excellent, Ace. ....Love the gif.

Hah!

Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (l5RhJ)

75 No, Ace. No, goddammit!

Obama is the embodiment of liberal politics. Every time socialism is tried it fails.  Every time.  But, that's only because the right person hasn't been in charge yet.

Obama is the right person.

He has the credentials: Harvard Law Review, Columbia degree.

He has been well-connected since his childhood.  He is at the top of the most meritocratic system we have for politicians. He got an Ivy League undergrad in social science and he went to Harvard Law.  He was even elected president of the Law Review.

He is The Most Intelligent Man In The World.

And he is a SCOAMF.  Even Obama couldn't make socialism work.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 12:52 PM (T0NGe)

76

I'm shallow enough to be greatly bothered by the left's elevation of Obama's coolness and athleticism much less his faux intelligence.

That bench-sitting, girl baseball throwing, spastic bowling, high water pants bicycle riding , choom smoking uncoordinated big eared, skinny retard is anything but cool and athletic.  

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (m2CN7)

77 I am not placing a lot of money on Biden pulling this out for Obama. Biden is a clown, everyone gets that. I think that these tools will listen to their own worst defenders and think that what they have to do in the debates is just call Romney and Ryan liars over and over and over. I don't think that will play well. There will be a 90 minute debate on foreign policy. Saying "I got bin Laden" takes about 3 seconds. That will leave a lot of dead air. Remember how they used to gotchas of Bush asking him the deputy second administrator of the admiralty of Latvia and saying how dumb he was for not knowing that? I don't think Obama knows enough to bullshit his way through much more basic stuff.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (/1U3u)

78

You are right that he did not do bad, for Obama.

This is also why it makes sense that he figured he had won the debate.  He went up on stage, did what he always does, and expected people to love it, just like they always do.

Posted by: dan-O at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (sWycd)

79 OT/ You should see the video over on Drudge. Scary stuff..


   PANIC: Romney signs in VA defaced, stolen and smeared with excrement..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (9+ccr)

80 ace on today's poll news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (8sCoq)

81 Is he not a Lightworker any more? Not a kind of God standing above the country? This is very disappointing. A guy that's supposed to be a post-human work of perfection is revealed to be a stuttering dumbass counting on the brilliance of Joe Biden to save his job. Huh.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (+lsX1)

82 The problem is that the last debate was such a curbstomp that it would be hard for Romney to duplicate. If the debate as an inflection point, that might not matter. If it was a bounce point, it will.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (t06LC)

83 No WH press briefing in 15 days.
http://tinyurl.com/9a5xpkg

Posted by: Othered at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (EuW9O)

84 He is The Most Intelligent Man In The World. --- I don't always lead but, when I do, I lead from behind.

Posted by: Barry Choombah at October 09, 2012 12:53 PM (e0xKF)

85 The liberals created two Strawmen. A Romney and an Obama. Unfortunately for them neither showed up.

Posted by: walrus at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (Qr/Eg)

86 To enact our Trolling Fairness Doctrine we will be airdropping another 30 homeless middle-aged men and teenagers into libraries around the country to increase both the quantity and quality of trolling.


Posted by: FCC at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (xAtAj)

87 I've never really had anything for dudes that grow hair on their face to make up for the fact they can't grow any on their head.

I don't want to hear what they have to say, usually.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (UK9cE)

88 liberals want a Pharaoh

Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (xqxYO)

89 A few weeks ago I was thinking there would be no way I'd survive til election day, given the left's outright lying and the MSM's unabashed knob polishing, etc. I was going to unplug for awhile.

But after the past few days the humor on this site, especially the thread the other day with suggestions about what Mitt & Ryan could now afford to do, after last week's thrashing, have kept me in stitches and begun to restore my sanity.

Thanks morons!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (zpqa2)

90 Well said.

I realized what a cult Obama created when that whole stadium of people (and many colleagues and friends) lapped up the "his was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal" bit.

My jaw dropped when I heard it, and they roared!

I understood how Mussolini attained power instantly.

Posted by: PJ at October 09, 2012 12:54 PM (DQHjw)

91 ...Romney signs in VA defaced, stolen and smeared with excrement.. Well, that's one way to win independents.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (jUytm)

92 5. CheshireLion.
We couldn't make it to the game and sold our tickets. Enjoy the Domers for me.
Go ND.

Posted by: LRBnSC at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (Qp3K5)

93

I've been saying that Obama is not a good campaigner.  He is not a good debater.  He  was not good against McCain.  The press simply declared Obama the winner  and  got away with it.  It helped that he ran as a conservative tax-cutter who was against an individual mandate.  But  whatevs.  Obama  has a wonderful ability to step  in it, to make things worse (e.g., his defense of PBS).   He has none of the empathy of Clinton, the likability of Bush, the experience of Bush 41, or the resolve of Reagan.  He has nothing.  He was a blank slate  for anyone to project what they want on him.  And now he is simply a blank slate.  He is nothing.  He is  going to lose and he is going to lose big.  My guess is he won't even fight for it.  He will wither away.  He has no clue how to overcome adversity, how to persuade people to his side, how to fight. 

Posted by: SH at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (gmeXX)

94 Obama is the right person.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers "We are the ones we've been waiting for."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (5DR1j)

95 The UK Guardian described Biden as "vastly more experienced than Ryan" when describing the upcoming debates. LOL!

Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (q177U)

96 Kudlow had to spit out Geithner's to do it, though. 

Posted by: ejo at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (GXvSO)

97 88 liberals want a Pharaoh --- And they have one.

Posted by: King Putt at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (e0xKF)

98

When I put $4/gal gas in my car I don't give a good god damn rip about Big Bird.

You don't worry about him pounding on the trunk?

Chloroform. Good plan.

Posted by: fluffy at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (O6q63)

99

The whole religious imagery thingy with Barky has bothered me from the get-go.

 

Guys like Bill Maher, you know, athiests, were acting like accolytes to a religious figure.  Not that athiests understand the religious aspects of that behavior, but they were engaging in it.  Barky was their g*d and savior.

 

All the photos of Barky with halos around his head, all the blather about how Barky was a "Lightworker" and was sent here to heal the planet, shut up already!!  We have a savior and it's not the phony grifter from Hawaii/Jakarta/Kenya and his gluttenous wife.

 

 

Posted by: Boots at October 09, 2012 12:55 PM (neKzn)

100 It's almost like Obama's seed was sustaining the mental health of Excitable Andy (aka Queen Mary Jane Milky Loads). And now that O has been emasculated, the last vestiges of Sully's sanity are slipping away . . . .

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (mAm+G)

101

47 Shines with lies and smiles.

 

What exactly did Romney LIE about in the debate?

 

And when Liars say that someone is Lying...are they Lying about the Lying or Lying about the Truth?

 

In this case, I think it's both.

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (l5RhJ)

102 Mitt AND Ryan, damn this site and its ampersand ban.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (zpqa2)

103

"This is your shit."

Best line of the year. Dead nuts on.

Posted by: Warden at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (HzhBE)

104 who only a few years ago called me a "frothing Caesarist" (I take that to mean a lickspittle for a Man on a White Horse)

Projection.

His favorite Caesar was Hadrian.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (T0NGe)

105

"One of the most wonderful things which will come with a Romney presidency is that Romney will finally, once again, separate Church and State. The president, finally, will just be a man. Not a perfect man. Not a prefigurement of Jesus. Not a prophet and not a savoir."

 

You didn't know that my magic underwear comes with a cape? Or that I'm already having an architect draft up plans to add a temple spire? The Islamists have their Caliphate.... I don't know what the 1st Mormon kingdom will be named....

Posted by: Romneyous Prophetus at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (73P68)

106 Ace's view of debate is opposite of Carolla's view I guess. Or the same. Obama is too lazy to prepare, too boring to move the needle. And too uninvolved with his job to actually know any of the stats or laws he's talking about (see comment 330 in previosuly thread on TFG thinking he won debate, apparently tax credits to jobs for china actually meant something). So, was this Obama at his best, middle, or worst? I think Obama did his best against McCain because he was able to lie his ass off, in which he debated to the right of McCain, so it seemed. Now, he can't do that because he has a record. And so yeah, for us conservatives, we should be more like ho, hum what did you expect? Obama is boring and lazy, Romney is smart and hard working.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (QxSug)

107 You don't worry about him pounding on the trunk? fuck 'im.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 12:56 PM (jUytm)

108

@93

A tabula rasa or an empty chair?

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (t06LC)

109 &

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (8sCoq)

110 #91, you should watch the video. Especially the one  "man of color" with    his violent tirade. I shutter to think of what it will be like when Romney wins..

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (9+ccr)

111 Biden as "vastly more experienced brain damaged than Ryan"


Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (+I8Mq)

112 He's been a very average politician, whose only above-average skill is giving a scripted, TelePrompTed address to people who already support him.
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And half-black.

No, it's not racism Alec Baldwin that's keeping him from making this a blow-out--it's racism that's keeping him in it at all.

Let me name a few of the thing that Obama got because of--and only because of--his race:
Admission to Harvard as a transfer.
Admission to law school.
Editor in Chief of the law review.
His first job in Chicago (whatever they called it officially).
And each and every political job he has been elected to since then.

No. If he were a white man, he'd be less than Ward Churchill, a minor nobody at a nothing college.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (imtbm)

113 Andrew Sullivan: A Man and His "certain biological compounds". Angst worthy of a Teutonic opera ... are there a bunch of guys running around dressed in bearskins with names like Hagen, Wotan, Hunding and Seigfried?

Posted by: Arbalest at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (oCKSL)

114 Off topic, but did you see that on Twitter James O'Keefe is making cryptic remarks about breaking a story this week? His tweets suggest that citizen journalism will have a good week this week. I don't see any other interpretation, than that a story will break in the next 1-2 days.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (GRSvh)

115 liberals want a Pharaoh

Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (xqxYO)


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That's because their natural inclination is towards slavery. 

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 12:57 PM (P6QsQ)

116 My prediction for Biden-Ryan debate? Unca Joe KNOWS the jig is up & the game is over. He also knows that he has created a gaffe-a-minute persona and that the MSM will backstop him. He is going to dump a ton of useless bs out there & try to get Ryan to waste time & energy trying to refute it. Unca Joe KNOWS he can't win. He knows he can't even tie.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (GFM2b)

117 Re libs having their eyes opened: buahahahahahaha...*points*.....HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (GEICT)

118 alright friends, the moment of my personal horror is upon me: the return to work after 9 days off



this is gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (8sCoq)

119 18 Also, enough with the eschaton immanentization.

Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (vjyZP)


Nice call back to the glory days of NR and YAF.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at October 09, 2012 12:58 PM (mAm+G)

120 And he is a SCOAMF. Even Obama couldn't make socialism work. Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 04:52 PM (T0NGe) The history of socialism is the history of political ideologues throwing people off of cliffs trying to find someone who can fly by flapping their arms. The "successful" and rapidly failing European socialist states "flourished" by choosing short cliffs and mainly only maiming rather than killing their people (see insanely high non-participation rates).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (bxiXv)

121 A lot of worshippers will start jumping ship as it becomes apparent that he's well out of his depth

You want to DEPEND on that happening?

That's how elections are lost, even when your side is running a high-class candidate. This is far from the time to ease off and relax. Can't do that until Jan. 20th of next year.

I repeat, beating Obama will be only a small step. {i]Destroying him politically has to be the goal now. He needs to be exposed for the America-hating failure he is, rendered helpless, powerless and made into a pitiful object that inspires only mean-spirited laughter even from his erstwhile supporters.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (ZgX/g)

122

So does this Jesus analogy make me the disciple Peter?

 

Should I be wearing ear muffs so I won't be hearing any cocks crowing?

 

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (XxAYS)

123 Ever since the debate, I have felt the devastation of Obama was way less because Obama was so bad but that Romney was so damned good.

Posted by: texexec at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (r41fG)

124 but also, yeah, as a conservative, it's great to see the left's god bleed. I think the left, OTH, loves to see our god bleed with abortion mandates and other insults to Catholic church. Sort of a turn of play, symmetry to it all. But, as more vigourous types will say, God is not mocked or tested, or words to that effect. Also, neither will Romney, apparently, as he also took on every lie that TFG threw at him. TFG should be very nervous.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (QxSug)

125 I say "Amen" ty your post. Ace. I know some liberals who refer to Romney as "Mormon Messiah Mitt" but there has NEVER been the same sort of Godlike status accorded to Mitt as there has been to Obama. I like freaking out liberals by regularly posting the Obamamessiah website. The stuff they said about him in 2008 was creepy!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (0nogT)

126 Is today post-a-palooza day?  If so, I seemed to have misplaced the memo.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 09, 2012 12:59 PM (BAS5M)

127

Wow, WTF:

Here's where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.

 

I knew that he had a creepy obsession with Obummer, but this is literally cultish.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (V0h2G)

128

@99

Even athiests need gods. They just replace them. You should read some Eric Volgelin sometime. Most of the liberal enterprise has an apocolyptic feel because in Volgelin's thesis they are striving to create heaven on earth.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (t06LC)

129 It's yet again more projection. The Left accuses the Right of deifying Reagan. While there is certainly an amount of nostalgic glossing over of faults *cough*Beirut*cough*, the Right doesn't actually believe Reagan was a god among men. The Left? Sure as hell seems to view Obama as such. I don't know if it's a Daddy fixation, a replacement for religion or a little from column A and a little from column B.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (VtjlW)

130 Being an avid traveler does not make one a foreign policy expert. Biden's claim on foreign policy expertise is something he gave himself a long time ago and repeated it so often it became part of Biden's lore. Joe Biden is a very stupid man.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (jUytm)

131 Wow these people are insane--headline story at Huffington Post; STIMULATED Growth In Underwear Sales Suggests An Improving Economy

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (r2PLg)

132 **ff topic, but did you see that on Twitter James O'Keefe is making cryptic remarks about breaking a story this week? His tweets suggest that citizen journalism will have a good week this week. I don't see any other interpretation, than that a story will break in the next 1-2 days.** more things for MSM to embargo

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:00 PM (QxSug)

133 I just have to know. Ace, is that you @sullypanic?

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (zxrQh)

134 I understood how Mussolini attained power instantly.

Posted by: PJ at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (DQHjw)


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I understood how the Anti-Christ will attain power instantly.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (P6QsQ)

135 The UK Guardian described Biden as "vastly more experienced than Ryan" when describing the upcoming debates. LOL!

Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2012 04:55 PM (q177U)




He does. He has more experience of making a fool out of himself than most other people ever will

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (1Jaio)

136 As the heroes of The Man Who Would Be King discovered-- when a God is seen to bleed, things can go pear-shaped pretty quickly

He bled after being bit by a hot chick.  And Michael Caine promptly shagged her.

Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (vjyZP)

137 I don't think Sullivan is having a melt down but is instead trying to scare others into action. Graphic wise, you should have a gif of his magic glutes clenching and unclinching.

Posted by: Redd at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (guxHP)

138 Prediction: at least one major network will not televise the next debates.

Posted by: Truman North at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (Ke2R2)

139 That's because their natural inclination is towards slavery. Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 04:57 PM (P6QsQ) Who wants to think for yourself if you don't have to?

Posted by: ErikW at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (hEG70)

140

This was a battle in which Romney defeated the media, like Patton defeated Rommel. Obama played the role of Sgt. Schultz.

Posted by: sherlock at October 09, 2012 01:01 PM (2DD2m)

141 President Little Bird is going down!

Posted by: Ken at October 09, 2012 01:02 PM (ayCbQ)

142 The problem is too many conservatives/Republicans have overestimated Obama  from the beginning.  Too afraid to treat him like the average politician he was.  Too willing to elevate him to a  status he didn't deserve.  A  status he received due to fortunate timing.  Remember, he didn't even win a majority of the votes of his own party. 

Posted by: SH at October 09, 2012 01:02 PM (gmeXX)

143  I'm going to come out swinging! Be ready!

Posted by: Joe Biden

 

Vice-President Biden, while that is impressive, and I really want to suck it, I'm going to have to ask you to put your pants on.

Posted by: Debate Moderator at October 09, 2012 01:02 PM (73P68)

144 I was at Huffington Post looking for Howard Fineman's advice for Biden to go Bork on Ryan--which I am too young to remember...but that has to be cockeyed.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (r2PLg)

145

Obama:  "I killed Bin Laden."

Romney:  "Libya."

Obama:  "What about your 47% gaffe?"

Romney:  "What about your Uncle Omar and Auntie Zeituni?"

 

End of second debate.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (wAQA5)

146

Remember that Hillary won the popular vote in the top Dem electoral states NY,NJ,PA,OH,FL and CA and still lost to Obama. 

 

Obama was selected by the DNC and not elected.

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (m2CN7)

147 New campaign song? God That Failed off the Black album?

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (QxSug)

148 28 Sullivan = goatse version of the Obama logo.

Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 04:46 PM (vjyZP)


erm you clearly havent seen Andrew Sullivan's Impression of the Obama Logo.


Do a search for GOATSIE  but under no circumstances should you do this search from work.



Posted by: Big Bird at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (ovpNn)

149 Obama was bench warmer on his high school basketball team, yet he fancies himself Lebron. Same thing about politics. But it is like he got drafted by the Heat (or Heats) and went out on the floor and started throwing up bricks, but everyone was afraid to say so, and suddenly, they realized they were getting their asses beat. Emperor. Clothes. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (/1U3u)

150 But, but ,the Halloween costume competition has Obama getting more schmucks to wear his rather than Romney. The poll HAS NEVER BEEN WRONG!

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (9+ccr)

151 I don't know if it's a Daddy fixation, a replacement for religion or a little from column A and a little from column B. When you lack any self worth, you look for validation from/through others.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 09, 2012 01:03 PM (GEICT)

152 This is so therapeutic.

Posted by: Hidajunshinette at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (20NzC)

153

If the SCOAMT was just a buffoon, a  political abberation, a bump in the road, I'd be able to just blow him off like a buzzing fly.

 

But he has truly damaged my country with his hate.  And he  has and still does  encourage  his minions to do the same thing. 

 

I want  him stomped.  And I want everyone who  still supports him and his ideals (I'm looking at you, MFM) to be politically  mutilated  beyond any  passing  recognition. 

Posted by: Soona at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (GZmzv)

154 Fineman:And further, Biden needs to do to Mitt Romney (and only incidentally to Ryan) what he did to Judge Robert Bork in 1987 when Bork was nominated for the U.S. Supreme Court. The smiling Biden attacked with ruthless efficiency and, aided by a famous floor speech by the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, he defeated President Ronald Reagan's nominee. It was ugly, but Biden won.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (r2PLg)

155 He was Obama. This is what he is. He is not quick-witted. He is not, as I think I saw Mickey Kaus note, a wonk. He has never been a wonk, a detailed-policy guy. Barky's a wank. Or a donk. Either one. Close enough for the MFM on both accounts. What's one letter to any serious professional editor? I'm surprised that no one in the Barky cult have expressed dismay that their idol was all wee wee'd up, which is Ivy League talk for all of you troglodytes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (X3lox)

156 17 I'm going to come out swinging! Be ready!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (wIgpo)

And by "swinging", you mean hitting on married women.

Posted by: wooga at October 09, 2012 01:04 PM (vjyZP)

157 love the liberal pathology. you need to be more aggressive, in their face. Result: Wellstone Memorial.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (QxSug)

158 Interesting times.  I'm thinking that there will be pro-Obama street violence before the election, and it will be the counter-demonstration activities that will get the media coverage.

Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (HjPtV)

159 The other problem for Obama was we'd heard it all before. That was my first reaction during the debate that told me Romney was winning. When Obama started speaking my ears glazed over.

Romney was good, and he was new. And for anyone who thinks the last four years haven't been peachy keen, that means something. Obama started in about how he'd inherited such a mess, and then didn't lay out how he was going to do anything differently going forward.

He did try to attack Romney later, but when Romney rebutted those attacks--sharply--Obama repeated them without addressing the rebuttals. Pretty soon, the only *words* I was paying attention to were coming from Romney. With Obama it was his mannerisms, body language, and expression, but I was no longer listening at all.

Obama had about 10 minutes of material--OLD material--and he tried to stretch it out over 90 minutes.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (M2x4y)

160 @114
If it's someone actually voting illegally, they had better cover their tracks really, really well.

Posted by: Al at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (MzQOZ)

161 I'm going to come out swinging! Be ready!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 09, 2012 04:44 PM (wIgpo)



But then they're going to ask you to put your dick back in your pants



Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (1Jaio)

162 Got kind of tired clenching and unclenching, Twink to twink and snortin' up the vial Maybe you and me were never meant to be, But baby think of me once in awhile. I'm at WKRAP in Spinnin' Alley

Posted by: Andy the DJ at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (KZi9D)

163 To paraphrase Chesterton, when a man stops believing in God the problem isn't that he believes in nothing, the problem is he'll believe in anything. How else to explain Choom Boy worship? Great post, Ace.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at October 09, 2012 01:05 PM (8kq7+)

164

All Paul Ryan has to do is somehow allude to Biden's last debate about FDR going on TV to calm the populace down after the 1929 market crash.

 

That is still today the most insanely idiotic thing ever said by a politician.   

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (m2CN7)

165 Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 04:47 PM


I think the same as well.  I re-watched part of the 1st debate and the JEF was pretty much the same as usual.  According to the UK Mail, he walked off stage thinking he won the debate.  I agree too that he is a lazy, less than super smart  man that epitomizes the "Post Turtle".    For the first time in his life, he is feeling pressure--a lot of pressure.  The next debate will be very interesting.  Especially if they eff up his meds to deal with the pressure.

Posted by: eureka! at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (cTjRR)

166 158 love the liberal pathology. you need to be more aggressive, in their face. Result: Wellstone Memorial.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 05:05 PM (QxSug)


  Well if slow joe tries to bork Ryan. all Paul has to do is calmly refute him. Hysterics is not a winner...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (9+ccr)

167 One of your best posts, Ace. You're exactly right that the left worships a false god. This is what happens in a society that turns its back on Judeo-Christian belief and values. The left has nothing else except the golden calf.

Posted by: Dulce at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (Okd5n)

168 I can't help but think of the Seinfeld episode when people can't believe Obama did so poorly in the debate.  "That's Jimmy!"

Posted by: Mamato4 at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (mhgGw)

169

112....His first job in Chicago (whatever they called it officially).

 

Civil Rights Attorney.

That's what it was called officially.

 

Which is also....all about race....and making money off of it.

 

Barky's shakedown of Citibank, in 1995 on behalf of ACORN...to force Citibank to make subprime loans...is what lit the fuse for the Banking Crisis.

 

So...you could say, that Barky's 'first job'....led to the Financial Crisis that got him elected.

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (l5RhJ)

170 Guys, don't forget, Romney is on CNN at 6. Should be interesting, Wolf is a much tougher debater than Obama.

Posted by: JDTAY at October 09, 2012 01:06 PM (a0nis)

171 Prediction: at least one major network will not televise the next debates.

We wanted to, but our life insurance provider forbade us from covering the next Presidential debate.  The risk that Matthews would have an on-air stroke was simply too high.

Posted by: MSNBC at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (SY2Kh)

172 Biden's long political career is somewhat of a puzzle to me. But I think I understand it. Joe Biden is a small man from a small state who never did a damn thing to make waves or any impact in the Senate. When Biden ran for president in 1988 no one took him seriously. Same thing in 2008. For over 30 years, Biden was just another senator. A nobody. Today things are different. Biden is in a position to do serious harm. Nobody is in the mood for Biden's antics, nor can we afford screw-ups. On Thursday, millions of voters will say wow I never realized just how big of an idiot Joe Biden was.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (jUytm)

173 We have a work retreat thursday.   I'm thinking I may have to be feeling under the weather that evening so I can skip the 'entertainment' and watch Ryan vs. Slow Joe.  But then if that is disappointing I'll have blown off brownie points for nothing, what to do, what to do. 

BTW killer last sentence there Ace.  

Posted by: PaleRider at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (dkExz)

174 65 Ryan, watch out for Biden's right hook! Retards are as strong as chimps!!!

And if you ever see a retarded chimp, run like hell.

Posted by: wooga. Totally not ripping off Daniel Tosh. at October 09, 2012 01:07 PM (vjyZP)

175 Does anyone remember the Biden--Bork thing? How is that supposedly the way for Biden to defeat Romney via Ryan by proxy--as only Fineman could say.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (r2PLg)

176 "But it is much, much more the fault of people who pride themselves on being skeptical realists who permitted their minds to run to the magical and to the (frankly, blasphemously) religious." This is why I have to loathe the mainstream media more than I do 0bama. 0bama may be an empty suit, but he's one man. The media is an entire industry of people not doing their jobs. And it *is* more than just a job. It's a public trust. And they ruined it.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (CHjVM)

177 Obama's responses in the debate were wandering, unfocused, they didn't really even make sense. He called on his dead grandmother twice. Yeah, we get it, it is sad she died, but its no excuse for bankrupting the country. He evoked some other nameless women (all women, interesting) that had other sad stories and they had nothing whatsoever to do with what he expected to do as President. It was strictly community organizing stuff - personalizing a story, making out a villain, then saying hey, you with the sad story, I will save you from the villain. That was it. That is all he had.

Posted by: Golan Globus at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (/1U3u)

178 He is who we thought he was. And this time...we didn't let him off the hook.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (GBXon)

179 76>>> I'm shallow enough to be greatly bothered by the left's elevation of Obama's coolness and athleticism much less his faux intelligence.  
That bench-sitting, girl baseballthrowing, spastic bowling, high water pants bicycle riding , choom smoking uncoordinated big eared, skinnyretard is anything but cool and athletic.

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2012 04:53 PM (m2CN7)

Yeah, that always bugged me, too. I got cut from my 7th grade basketball team (good thing--turns out I was really good at wrestling) and I'd put money on my ability to beat Obama in a game of hoops.

Posted by: Warden at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (HzhBE)

180 and someone dig up that Cheney (or is it rumsfeld) quote on Biden...longentivity mistaken for wisdom.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 09, 2012 01:08 PM (QxSug)

181 Civil Rights Attorney.
That's what it was called officially.

Which is also....all about race....and making money off of it.

Barky's shakedown of Citibank, in 1995 on behalf of ACORN...to force Citibank to make subprime loans...is what lit the fuse for the Banking Crisis.

So...you could say, that Barky's 'first job'....led to the Financial Crisis that got him elected.

Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 05:06 PM (l5RhJ)



The only difference between Barry and Jesse Jackson is that Barry was successful at getting elected. Outside of that they are just self-aggrandizing shake down artists

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:09 PM (1Jaio)

182

Remember that youtube of Cake's, "We are building a Religion?"

 

Posted by: concrete girl at October 09, 2012 01:09 PM (y2Ojs)

183 Joe bidens foreign policy expertise is very real and not to be questioned. its also very simple. whatever biden suggests, do the exact opposite.

Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 01:09 PM (xqxYO)

184

@166

Anyone else read that story and think of the scene in Anchorman where Ron Reads "Go fuck yourself San Diego" and acts like nothing happens while everyone else realizes the magnitude of what just happened.

I can see him walking off stage telling Michelle "Well, that went well. Lobster?"

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (t06LC)

185

 

I think the media is  starting to come around to the idea that it will be a hell of alot more fun  and profitable attacking a republican in the oval office then it will  be trying to defend  the numbnuts who occupies it now for the next four years.they feel they're better suited to attacking so why not jump ship now and look forward to what they love to do best

Posted by: kj at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (9g/ZD)

186 For Biden to Bork Ryan--wouldn't Biden have to ask all the questions? wtf?

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (r2PLg)

187

Another excellent post by our esteemed host.

 

I do, however, take exception to the idea that Obama has been "adequate".  The guy has gone AWOL to campaign almost full-time, just like when he was a Senator, for cryin' out loud!  We were attacked on 9/11, and the guy took of to Vegas!!

 

What you're touching on here, however, ist the stunning contrast we have in this election.  One the one hand, we have the incumbant, who is remarkable for the fact of how far he has gone with hardly anything you could call a real accomplishment, and without even any real experience EVER running ANYTHING!

 

On the other hand, you have a guy who has been legendary for turning around financially-troubled organizations, be they private companies, a non-profit, or a state government.  A guy who has vast amounts of executive experience.  If the country buys a clue, and elects him, this may go down in history as one of those moments where just the right guy miraculously shows up on the scene, seemingly from nowhere, and by accident, at just the right moment.

 

A financial Winston Churchill moment, if you will.

 

Posted by: Optimizer at October 09, 2012 01:10 PM (As94z)

188 On Thursday, millions of voters will say wow I never realized just how big of an idiot Joe Biden was.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2012 05:07 PM (jUytm)




Fredo Biden: I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect! How come my fingers smell like poo?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (1Jaio)

189 I was at Huffington Post looking for Howard Fineman's advice for Biden to go Bork on Ryan--which I am too young to remember...but that has to be cockeyed.

Yeah, that might be good advice if Biden had his usual 20 uninterrupted minutes of rambling to make a simple point that a normal person could make in 20 seconds.

I don't see the debate moderators being quite that forgiving though.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (SY2Kh)

190 64
I can't take my eyes off that gif.

Also, I am somewhat concerned that everyone is making such a big deal of Romney's victory on Wednesday that there is no way he could top that.
I don't imagine the next debate could be any worse for Obama, so the media will be able to say he recovered or "got his groove back"

Posted by: Ben at October 09, 2012 04:50 PM (C2Y4l)


Yes, this. Plus if Slow Joe is anywhere near coherent he will be awarded victory. Not. Over. Yet.

Posted by: joncelli at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (RD7QR)

191 >Also, I am somewhat concerned that everyone is making such a big deal of Romney's victory on Wednesday that there is no way he could top that.
I don't imagine the next debate could be any worse for Obama, so the media will be able to say he recovered or "got his groove back"
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>This is also why it makes sense that he figured he had won the debate. He went up on stage, did what he always does, and expected people to love it, just like they always do.

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Romney wins the next debates as well. He doesn't have to top it (but he probably will, because he has facts on his side).
See, put the JEF up there by himself and he would have been considered to have won. It was all there, the whole debate was the JEF shoehorning the greatest hits and applause lines from his stump speeches. You could see the wheels turning as he looked for which one to plug in. And the media and the crowds have loved them.
He is who he is.
And that's the problem.
Obama CAN'T get better--he brought what was, up until now, his A-game. Maybe B-, as Ace says.
That was the same debate performance that cleaned McCain's clock. That's why he didn't prepare and that's why he thought he won.
The pissed off look of he and Michelle at the end? That wasn't "I really f'ed up" it was, "Why the F is everyone acting like Mitt won?"

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (imtbm)

192 183
Remember that youtube of Cake's, "We are building a Religion?"


A better analogy is Homer Simpson opening the Church of the Fonz.  How empty must these people's lives be?

Posted by: pep at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (6TB1Z)

193 it's not the phony grifter from Hawaii/Jakarta/Kenya and his gluttenous wife.
But I thought Michelle hated wheatie???

Posted by: andycanuck at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (vDl/w)

194 Interesting times. I'm thinking that there will be pro-Obama street violence before the election, and it will be the counter-demonstration activities that will get the media coverage.

Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2012 05:05 PM (HjPtV)


If they could collect more than a handful of commies or actresses together to do anything at all, they might not be losing so badly.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 09, 2012 01:11 PM (z1N6a)

195 Wolf is a much tougher debater than Obama. Posted by: JDTAY at October 09, 2012 05:06 PM (a0nis) ==================== Don't make that mistake. Blizted is okay when he's got a loaded script, just like BO and the rest of those empty suits can be. I had escort detail for the CNN crew in Korea when Bubba came to visit and got to watch Blitzed off script for the better part of 48 hours straight. He's a fucking dolt outside of his bubble of invisible protection. Also, it's become apparent to me that he's sensed a disturbance in the BO force and may take a few shots at BO in order to claim "credibility" when the downfall happens.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at October 09, 2012 01:12 PM (a4CUi)

196 184 Joe bidens foreign policy expertise is very real and not to be questioned. its also very simple. whatever biden suggests, do the exact opposite. Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 05:09 PM (xqxYO) _______________ That reminds me doesn't that $%#^ have one of those--I went to in theater and I almost died--"stories"--that really is--a story?

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:12 PM (r2PLg)

197

 

And if you ever see a retarded chimp, run like hell.

Posted by: wooga. Totally not ripping off Daniel Tosh. at October 09, 2012 05:07 PM (vjyZP)

 

You can't run from me!  Just like Romey, your doomed!

Posted by: Greg at October 09, 2012 01:13 PM (ggRof)

198 How are we going to hug and kiss when SCoaMF finally gets kicked to the Hawaii curb next month? This will be some epic celebrations...

Posted by: a love in at October 09, 2012 01:13 PM (LpQbZ)

199

"He is a guy who speaks vacuously of hopes and dreams and change and fairness."

You almost got it perfect .... I would have substituted out "fairnerss" for  fantasies".

Posted by: jb at October 09, 2012 01:13 PM (z10eo)

200 Ha! Great post, Ace! I ran with a friend today who voted for Obama. She said "The most disappointing thing was he promised to change the tone in politics, and he broke that promise as soon as he got in office." She also finds his broken promises regarding the jobs and th economy dispiriting. She's an ex-Morman, so she is a little leery of Romney on that, but she doesn't think that another 4 years of Obama are sustainable. I heartily agreed. I know it's all anecdotal, but I sure am finding a lot of people who voted for TFG the last time who won't be doing so this election.

Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:14 PM (WGmy2)

201 Which will be the most treasured meltdowns when Romney wins? Tingles? Sullivan? Schultz? Samuel Jackson (Hollywood, et al)? Mika will just puke, that's a give. ?

Posted by: most treasured... at October 09, 2012 01:14 PM (LpQbZ)

202 liberals want a Pharaoh

Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (xqxYO)

too bad; the Pharaohs are mine

Posted by: Sam the Sham at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (8g9qq)

203 TFG is the same guy who, early in his term, stated without reservation and facts and acknowledged beforehand that he didn't have the facts, "The Police acted stupidly." Bam! Incurious, lazy, unqualified "leader" right off the bat.

When asked to cross the aisle on policy reform, "I won," was the retort. Boom! Lazy, one-dimensional ideologue at the helm.

When asked, after pressure, to have a substantive debate in front of God and cameras and Congress, Paul Ryan ate his lunch. Whack! He flipped on his own DeafDumbMute button.

But hey, he sure has developed his backswing on his long game!

My God, the Smart Set are some of the most pathologically stupid people on the planet regardless of their ingrained sycophancy. Remember this after the election, too. They are to be forever mocked and ignored. Like TFG.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (eHIJJ)

204 She's an ex-Morman, so she is a little leery of Romney on that, Did she say exactly why?

Posted by: most treasured... at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (LpQbZ)

205 Thanks, Ace. This is exactly what I have been thinking.

Posted by: Janetoo at October 09, 2012 01:15 PM (R+fMx)

206 You know what the Obama campaign is reminding me of right now?  The McCain campaign late in the race in 2008.  Just totally desperate and frantic, trying to find anything to use as a club.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at October 09, 2012 01:16 PM (8J5Ck)

207 That's because their natural inclination is towards slavery.

It's interesting. Conservatives are said to have a fatalistic view.  And we do.  But liberals, in order to convince themselves that the freest system in all of the history of mankind is oppressive have to argue that "the system" or even life itself is rigged.

So they convince themselves that they are enslaved now.

Implicitly, they think they can never be truly free (deconstruction means redefining things like "freedom") and so why not get an enlightened despot?

I think Reagan really issued in the era of the optimistic conservative in two ways.  First was his own sunny optimism, but second was that progressivism had turned into a dour philosophy as I outline above.

They used to think they could make the world better.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 01:16 PM (T0NGe)

208 How it will end: Joey Choo-Choo... dressed in a toga... and declaiming, "All Mesopotamia is divided into three parts!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 09, 2012 01:16 PM (J7sV0)

209

 

@203

George Clooney

Posted by: kj at October 09, 2012 01:17 PM (9g/ZD)

Posted by: fluffy at October 09, 2012 01:17 PM (O6q63)

211 Obama now is what he's always been--a typical affirmative action dorm room socialist--who read some camus and frantz fanon and thinks he knows how the world works--i left out derrida because he can't think abstractly enough to understand that idjit. Guys like him, with the polysyllabic gift of gab, are a dime a dozen in the yard doing 10 to 15 for sticking up a grocery store and spending all their time shooting hoops and reading malcolm x. As Bobby Rush pegged him to the black constituency during their race--"he's an educated fool". Any non guilt ridden white guy without racial shame could out talk and out think this yutz in a new york minute. I'll give him this though--he bull shitted his way into the American Presidency but that ain"t gonna last. Its Hawaii,golf and speeches for this bad memory and the American people not being "fooled all the time"--Thank you Abe.

Posted by: HULUGU at October 09, 2012 01:17 PM (JVBtw)

212 "If they could collect more than a handful of commies or actresses together to do anything at all, they might not be losing so badly."

Pop Culture is only one facet (and a minor one, at that) of the power and resources controlled by Obama's people.  If push comes to shove, the Marxists will shove and push to keep what they have.

Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2012 01:17 PM (HjPtV)

213

This is your deeply weird, Great Man on a White Horse worshipping psychological hangup.

 

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Wait a sec. Now Romney's supposed to be saving us *from* a guy on a white horse? I guess irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

 

(look up "white horse prophecy" on Wikipedia)

 

Posted by: Anachronda at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (xGZ+b)

214 liberals want a Pharaoh

Posted by: buzzion at October 09, 2012 04:54 PM (xqxYO)

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That's because their natural inclination is towards slavery.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 04:57 PM (P6QsQ)



Biden They're going to put YA'LL in CHAINS!! That's a good one. I might use it in the debate

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (1Jaio)

215 The media is an entire industry of people not doing their jobs. And it *is* more than just a job. It's a public trust. And they ruined it. Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 09, 2012 05:08 PM (CHjVM) This x the number of people in that dumbass "industry."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (bxiXv)

216 White guilt was atoned for in 2008 is my theory. No longer a factor for most.

I have in-laws who are the textbook example of this, unfortunately they must have been saddled with an exceptionally bad case of it, because they still have some atoning to do I guess.

In any event, a fascinating psychological study I'm sure.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (zpqa2)

217 Obama is an almost adequate Queen. He shakes hands, waves, is eye candy, and is generally omnipresent in the media.

Obama enjoys (really, really enjoys) the perks of being the ceremonial leader. It isn't just the public golf, golf, golf, basketball, golf, and bowling. It's apparently a whole hell-of-a-lot of time spent becoming competent at all of the little perk-things he does so incessantly. And getting access to closed-to-the-public courses everywhere. And stars on his basketball team. Etc.

But doesn't have the first clue of how to be Prime Minister. Let alone President.

Posted by: Al at October 09, 2012 01:18 PM (MzQOZ)

218 Obama did not do that badly. For Obama. He was the same listless, droning, exhausted-of-ideas scold we have seen for at least two years now (and maybe three).

Make that four years.   If you take a hard look at the Obama Administration and then go back to the 2008 campaign, there have been few new ideas since that campaign started.   When Obama came to office, he sent to Congress calls (not bills) for the same stuff that he had been calling for since before the Panic of 2008.   The only new, if you want to call it that, was the "stimulus" which really was just an excuse to spend, simply payback.

Posted by: Al Capone at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (e8kgV)

219 But I think I understand it. Joe Biden is a small man from a small state who never did a damn thing to make waves or any impact in the Senate. Those of us in Southeastern PA considered DE a suburb of Philly, despite it having the distinction of being "The First State". All the truly important states were Commonwealths.

Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (WGmy2)

220 #216.  Yes.  I think the are going to be like rats in a cornered back alley here shortly.  We have to be preprared and keep beating them back.

Posted by: traumakitty at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (c/Glr)

221 The McCain campaign late in the race in 2008. Just totally desperate and frantic, trying to find anything to use as a club.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at October 09, 2012 05:16 PM (8J5Ck)



They have a lot of dysfunctional human garbage but not nearly as bad as those quisling fucks Schmidt and Wallace.  I want those ambulatory butt-plugs' lives completely ruined.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 09, 2012 01:19 PM (H+enH)

222 When Joe Biden tells voters he understands the threat posed by Afghan extremists, he dramatically illustrates one reason why: His helicopter was "forced down" on "the superhighway of terror." Actually, snow, not the enemy, persuaded the helicopter pilot to land and wait out a storm. The Democratic vice presidential candidate has repeatedly left that part out, in an episode that Republicans hope will become an echo of Hillary Rodham Clinton's errant tale during the primaries of landing in Bosnia under sniper fire. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431604,00.html#ixzz28q5GQy8w

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (r2PLg)

223

Someone must have really been impressed with Obama when he was a college sophomore, because he sounds like one.  Which suggests that's the point at which he  began  getting his sphincter licked,  and no longer needed  to engage in any more intellectual curiosity. 

 

Certainly being President for 4 years hasn't added to it. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (TOk1P)

224 Dr. Varno: "Shouldn't Sullivan be out chasing uteri?"

Impressive. First threadwinner (of what will likely be several) within five minutes of posting.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (eHIJJ)

225

182...The only difference between Barry and Jesse Jackson is that Barry was successful at getting elected. Outside of that they are just self-aggrandizing shake down artists.

 

True, they are the same sort of con-artists...

But Barky is far more talented and effective at demagoguery, than ole Jesse.

[Which is probably why JJ hates his guts.]

 

Barky had the gaul to declare that poor people were 'victimized' by the greedy banks who gave them mortgages that they couldn't afford to pay for....

Whe HE was the sonuvabitch who forced them to do it!

  


 

Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (l5RhJ)

226 You write good; damn good. 


This is one of those Moments in History where--if we make the wrong choice and take the wrong path--everything changes.  ( in this case, turns to sh*t )


Seriously:  If Sh*tbird is re-elected, we're screwed.  I could use a lotta words to explain, but everyone reading this knows what I mean.  You know how Bad it will get--and it will get Very Bad, very soon


It's the 3rd of July, 1963; the 4th-7th of June, 1942, the 6th  of June, 1944


Christmas Eve, 1776, etc.  Win or die.  Win, or America dies


overly dramatic?   Me no think so....

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (Dll6b)

227 Here's what to watch for in the remaining debates:  The President will WILDLY overcompensate for the first performance.

Think Al Gore trying to be "passionate."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 09, 2012 01:20 PM (MrO9M)

228 But doesn't have the first clue of how to be Prime Minister. Let alone President. This morning, my girlfriend and I decided that Obama wants to be the Queen of America. He wants a gig like Elizabeth's.

Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (WGmy2)

229

OT: Drudge has some links to Greeks protesting the arrival of Merkel.... in Nazi uniforms.

 

Anyone think that the Greeks would be in a much better situation if they were willing to put as much effort into, you know, actual work as they do protesting?

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (73P68)

230 yeah, 1863 with the Gettysburg reference.   My bad

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (Dll6b)

231 > He called on his dead grandmother twice. Yeah, we get it, it is sad she died, but its no excuse for bankrupting the country.

Obama also flubbed trotting her out: "And then what youÂ’ve got is folks like my grandmother at the mercy of the private insurance system precisely at the time when they are most in need of decent health care."

Either these people are *not* like his grandmother (dead), or they are not at that time when they most need health care.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (M2x4y)

232 I know it's all anecdotal, but I sure am finding a lot of people who voted for TFG the last time who won't be doing so this election.

Yeah, same here.

After the debate I talked to a buddy who hadn't watched the debate.  I suggested he give his liberal fiancee a call to console her over Obama getting his ass kicked.

He said there was no need, she'd become totally disillusioned with him.

In terms of the non-political, my mother- who rarely speaks about politics and then maybe just an offhand comment- went on at length about the debate and her desire to see Obama go.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 09, 2012 01:21 PM (SY2Kh)

233 Keep this in mind, morons. I don't think we saw Romney's 'A' game either. It wasn't reported in the MFM (shocker!) but Romney had gotten very little sleep on the two nights prior to the debate due to staying in a hotel next to active train tracks. This is why his eyes were so red at times.

Posted by: Countrysquire at October 09, 2012 01:22 PM (GNaYV)

234 Yeah, that might be good advice if Biden had his usual 20 uninterrupted minutes of rambling to make a simple point that a normal person could make in 20 seconds. I don't see the debate moderators being quite that forgiving though. Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 09, 2012 05:11 PM (SY2Kh) _______________ Correct. I'm off to go look for the Biden, Bork crap--there must be video somewhere.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 01:22 PM (r2PLg)

235 There won't be another debate for Obama. I guessing a joint attack on Iran or some shit. Fuckin' invasion of Libya or god knows what.

Posted by: Max Power at October 09, 2012 01:22 PM (q177U)

236 I'm just hoping Ryan can bait Biden into getting over-exuberant and red faced over Big Bird, and keep momentum going another week. Kinda like Nathan Jessup, I think Joe Biden wants to say it, he needs to say it.

Posted by: Dave S. at October 09, 2012 01:23 PM (d4o2E)

237 This morning, my girlfriend and I decided that Obama wants to be the Queen of America.

You mean he's not?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 09, 2012 01:23 PM (SY2Kh)

238 Andrew Sullivan is a British Public School lefty twit who veered right from Jihadi fear and energetic self promotion. He should get off his belly with the boyfriend on top of him and ponce back across the pond--too much smegma on the brain from sooking all that uncut cake.

Posted by: HULUGU at October 09, 2012 01:23 PM (JVBtw)

239 I'm just hoping Ryan can bait Biden into getting over-exuberant and red faced over Big Bird, and keep momentum going another week.

Kinda like Nathan Jessup, I think Joe Biden wants to say it, he needs to say it.

Posted by: Dave S. at October 09, 2012 05:23 PM (d4o2E)



Biden: Do what you want to Big Bird but keep you're hands off of ELMO!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:25 PM (1Jaio)

240 223 'S okay, runningrn, we here in Delaware consider you Pennsylvanians as nothing more than lousy drivers who cross over to mooch off our tax-free shopping, so it all balances.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 09, 2012 01:25 PM (ZZPs4)

241 But doesn't have the first clue of how to be Prime Minister. Let alone President.

In Israel or Germany, he'd actually be president.  They have a system where the president has a lot of the ceremonial roles as the Queen does in the UK.  The only substantive role the president has is to arrange the forming of the coalition government.  Most of it is automatic with the plurality party offered the first shot, but if the election is strange, then sometimes there's some work to be done.

Would he be good at it?  Well, conservatives would hate him, because he'd be like he is now, just without any responsibility.  A celebrity politician without accountability, largely unnoticed but not afraid to have opinions and express them.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 01:26 PM (T0NGe)

242 If you are sitting back thinking Romney has this in the bag, think again. Send money to the campaign..even $25 helps. Go without the top shelf booze for a few weeks, put $1 bills in the strippers thongs instead of $5's or get off the couch and volunteer. This is going to the wire and everyone needs to pull.

Posted by: DeusExMachina at October 09, 2012 01:26 PM (6RTwM)

243 If you like your tampons, you can keep your tampons.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at October 09, 2012 01:26 PM (QKKT0)

244 176 Does anyone remember the Biden--Bork thing?

How is that supposedly the way for Biden to defeat Romney via Ryan by proxy--as only Fineman could say.
============
I am praying that Biden reads this advice and takes it.

They were able to Bork Bork because, being Senators, they used all the time asking their question while Bork just had to sit there.
And the great eviscerating he mentions happened when Bork wasn't even in the building.

Like I said this morning, they haven't even game-planned their counter attack out at all. They just think calling Romney/Ryan a liar is a head-shot instant kill and the debate will be over.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2012 01:27 PM (imtbm)

245

Blast from the past:

http://tinyurl.com/8egtjeh

 

Maybe he'll do some water-walking for an encore.

Posted by: kallisto at October 09, 2012 01:28 PM (jm/9g)

246

194.....But I thought Michelle hated wheatie???

 

Uh oh.

What did I miss?

Should I go into hiding?

Posted by: wheatie at October 09, 2012 01:29 PM (l5RhJ)

247
STIMULATED
Growth In Underwear Sales Suggests An Improving Economy

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2012 05:00 PM


When people are getting ready to hunker down they stock up on underwear, socks, bluejeans and shoes.
Just sayin'. It's apocalyptic

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 09, 2012 01:29 PM (+I8Mq)

248

  @ 203

 

Big Mooch running after Barry with a frying pan?

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2012 01:29 PM (wAQA5)

249 208 She's an ex-Morman, so she is a little leery of Romney on that, Did she say exactly why? Apparently, there are some more secretive activities that Mormans engage in that aren't known outside the church (she didn't elaborate), and now that she and her family are no longer in the Morman church, she considers it a cult (both she and her husband grew up in strict, large Morman families; they are the only people in their families who left Mormanism. They have two daughters they raised in the Morman faith until junior high/late elementary school). That being said, she does feel the economy and jobs are the most important things to address, and she feels like Romney will not be re-making America into a Morman state. She does see how being Morman could cost him votes, especially if the opposition starts ratcheting up the fact he is a Morman,

Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:29 PM (WGmy2)

250 The only country in Europe where the President has real power is France.


Everywhere else, the office of President is a figurehead to replace a deposed monarch--or the surviving monarch reigns but does not rule.


As Queen, Obama would be a disaster.  A ''constitutional monarch" unites and represents the nation; Obama is the Opposite of That

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 01:30 PM (Dll6b)

251 EVERYONE is going to be happy to see the back of Obama... his supporters most of all.  They have to be tired of pretending this utterly inept facsimile of a man is godlike.  Once he is gone they can put down that burden and stop pretending that high gas prices are good, that criticism is racist, that we aren't going over the fiscal cliff and a million other things that are at odds with reality.  Even the press has to be tired of carrying all of this water.  Water is heavy and journalists are a feeble lot in both body and mind.  They have to know at this point that they have squandered all of their credibility on what is ultimately a naked emperor sitting on an empty throne.

And by God, Mitt had better not rest until less is left of Obama than the inscription that Ozymandias got as his ultimate reward.

Posted by: Voluble at October 09, 2012 01:30 PM (qYvEa)

252
Not bad, Ace.
If don't see this paraphrased in tomorrow's Morning-Jolt, I'll be disappointed.

Posted by: RayJ at October 09, 2012 01:30 PM (pI/IV)

253 As Queen, Obama would be a disaster. A ''constitutional monarch" unites and represents the nation; Obama is the Opposite of That

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 05:30 PM (Dll6b)




Reggie Love: Oh he's a queen alright and a good one at that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 09, 2012 01:31 PM (1Jaio)

254 I*'d be remiss if I didn't point out that Obama was being called an empty suit even before the '08 election, even more so now that he's been in office scince and still hasn't learned a damn thing.

Posted by: Gmac at October 09, 2012 01:31 PM (IanLz)

255 I want Romney to win for the nation, of course, but I have another, more personal reason:

Sullivan and his kind tried to destroy Sarah Palin and her family, and I want revenge. I want him humiliated, and I want that son of a bitch to experience defeat and loss, and I want to go over there on election night, kick him in the balls and piss on his pride. And I want him to know that for all his knavish tricks, Sarah Palin is still around, and Obama's career is over.

Posted by: section9 at October 09, 2012 01:31 PM (CUoon)

256 245 223 'S okay, runningrn, we here in Delaware consider you Pennsylvanians as nothing more than lousy drivers who cross over to mooch off our tax-free shopping, so it all balances. Ha ha! I don't live there any more, but my Dad use to go there for the cheap gas. I use to go skating at Spinning Wheels when I was in high school, and our family would go to The Charcoal Pit for burgers. We loved Delaware!

Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:33 PM (WGmy2)

257 Don't be silly. Everyone knows that it's increased sales of milk and toilet paper that signal the end is bear.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 09, 2012 01:33 PM (UyYYt)

258 There won't be another debate for Obama. I guessing a joint attack on Iran or some shit. Fuckin' invasion of Libya or god knows what.

I predicted that he would skip the FIRST debate.  Why not?  He'd've been stupid to debate Romney at all, regardless of Romney's skill.

And yes, at least one of these debates will be cancelled.  They'll look for any excuse.  They may even make it good.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2012 01:33 PM (T0NGe)

259 And Sully's pussy has always hurt, just moreso now that the polls are spanking him.

Posted by: Gmac at October 09, 2012 01:34 PM (IanLz)

260

Remember Dennis Green's epic meltdown after a game when he ranted at a reporter, "They are who we thought they were!"   That's what this sounds like.  

 

Obama is who we thought he was... a vapid Ivy League affirmative action baby who has never accomplished anything substantive other than being in the right place at the right time for white liberals to fawn over.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at October 09, 2012 01:36 PM (qHCyt)

261 I only have one problem with this article.  He is not a good man and he is not a smart man.  If he were good he wouldn't permit the killing of babies who survive abortion, he wouldn't allow his supporters and campaign to lie about virtually everything under the sun, he wouldn't have to crow about killing Bin Laden, he wouldn't demagogue about creating jobs with millions out of work, he wouldn't line the coffers of his supporters by giving millions (billions possibly) to green energy non starters that go bankrupt before any tangible item is manufactured, ad infinitum.  He is not a smart man or he would not have chosen people in his administration who are socialists, communists, etc., he would not have to have a teleprompter to talk to an elementary school class and almost every other group of people he has spoken to in the last 4 years, he would not step on his tongue with numerous gaffes every time he is without his teleprompter and he would not have to have the lamestream media to cover for his every misstep for the last 4 years.  His campaign basically consists of lying about almost everything that Mitt Romney has ever done and has no positive attributes to talk about for his 4 years in office. Thank God it is almost November and we can rid ourselves of this jug eared embarrassment.

Posted by: Tazman44 at October 09, 2012 01:36 PM (w3/i6)

262 This should go straight to the 'greatest hits' column.  And those gifs . . . I usually wouldn't click over to Buzzfeed,  but they're hilarious!    

Posted by: plum at October 09, 2012 01:37 PM (Z6itK)

263 262 that means it's gonna snow down here

Posted by: BignJames at October 09, 2012 01:38 PM (rlFQ+)

264 239 "He has always struck me as a 9/11 conservative"

i think this is a little simplistic for Sullivan, but it does get to the flaw in the Bush-era coalition, where certain people who were "conservative" in that they weren't rabid America-hating leftists supported the War on Terror but ideologically were still essentially center-left.

Posted by: JParker at October 09, 2012 05:22 PM (60GaT)


WAIT WAIT WAIT


Lets set the record straight.


ANDREW SULLIVANS ENTIRE FLIP TO THE LIB SIDE AND HATE OF REPUBLICANS IS THE RESULT OF ONE THING.


Andrew Milky Glutes Sullivan's penchant for unprotected ass sex with random strangers in bathhouses and alleys in washington DC led to him contracting the AIDS virus.

The Federal government had a strict policy of not allowing people with aids to apply for and become citizens.

Andrew blamed bush for that.  He has been trying to get US citizenship for years but cant because he didnt have the brains to put a condom on what ever random guys dick was up his ass on any given night.  Because of that policy he hates Rush and he hates conservatives now.

Moral of the Story?

If you are going to stick a cock up your ass, for fuck's sake put a rubber on it.

Posted by: Big Bird at October 09, 2012 01:38 PM (ovpNn)

265 Some months ago there was that expose of Obama's working habits and how the courtiers, er White House staffers, would present him with a sheet of multiple choices and he would tick one as his decision.  How anybody in the media or the Left side of politics could still have insisted that Obama is a policy wonk, or even knew what he was doing, is beyond me.

Posted by: Decaf at October 09, 2012 01:39 PM (N8E86)

266 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 09, 2012 05:25 PM (ZZPs4) Oh, and I'd be remiss if I didn't mention DiNardo's Seafood in Wilmington. The best soft shell crabs!

Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:39 PM (WGmy2)

267 Biden publicly humiliating a good man as part of the Senate Foreign Relations committee to one of Regan's appointees.   From way back in he 80's.  http://tinyurl.com/8rxykxt

Posted by: CheshireLion at October 09, 2012 01:39 PM (zNDIM)

268 Some of you want to believe that Obama was not Obama during the debate, but that's way wrong. Way, way wrong. The real problem is that Romney was not McCain. If I were still running against McCain I wouldn't be in this fix! The Bernank will fix this for me, along with Hilda Solis and the Axelrod media. You watch; I can still count on those folks, even if Romney won't cooperate.

Posted by: President For Life Obama at October 09, 2012 01:40 PM (Db6BC)

269 I predicted that he would skip the FIRST debate. Why not? He'd've been stupid to debate Romney at all, regardless of Romney's skill. He kind of did. Pretty much only voted "Present" for that one!

Posted by: runningrn at October 09, 2012 01:41 PM (WGmy2)

270 275 lol i'm picturing Big Bird actually saying this stuff

Posted by: JParker at October 09, 2012 05:41 PM (60GaT)


haha....whoops sock off.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:42 PM (ovpNn)

271 240 There won't be another debate for Obama. I guessing a joint attack on Iran or some shit. Fuckin' invasion of Libya or god knows what. Posted by: Max Power Exactly what I have been thinking.

Posted by: backhoe at October 09, 2012 01:42 PM (ULH4o)

272 277 240 There won't be another debate for Obama. I guessing a joint attack on Iran or some shit. Fuckin' invasion of Libya or god knows what.

Posted by: Max Power


Exactly what I have been thinking.

Posted by: backhoe at October 09, 2012 05:42 PM (ULH4o)


Obama is gonna send Smokin Joe Biden in place of Obama

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:44 PM (ovpNn)

273
Re#269 Bigbird

Once upon a time, Andrew Sullivan was W's biggest fan. It was said that Andrew had Bush chip implanted in his head.
Then one day, Bush took a principled stand against gay marriage in CA.
The rest is history.

Posted by: RayJ at October 09, 2012 01:45 PM (pI/IV)

274 It's the 3rd of July, 1963; the 4th-7th of June, 1942, the 6th of June, 1944


Christmas Eve, 1776, etc. Win or die. Win, or America dies


overly dramatic? Me no think so....

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 09, 2012 05:20 PM (Dll6b)

 

 

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Agree.  This election is for all the marbles.

Posted by: Soona at October 09, 2012 01:47 PM (GZmzv)

275 is Andi's beard so his Boyfriends can find his mouth with their Dicks?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 09, 2012 01:47 PM (ck76k)

276 Very good Ace. Those of us who worship God do not need to make one from men. Governments cannot save us.

Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 09, 2012 01:48 PM (QQcJv)

277 The Pope would have acted less foolishly if Jesus Christ returned and gave a lousy speech.

Posted by: Hepcat at October 09, 2012 01:50 PM (frbyY)

278 279
Re#269 Bigbird

Once upon a time, Andrew Sullivan was W's biggest fan. It was said that Andrew had Bush chip implanted in his head.
Then one day, Bush took a principled stand against gay marriage in CA.
The rest is history.

Posted by: RayJ at October 09, 2012 05:45 PM (pI/IV)


Marriage was the only way someone with HIV infection could get citizenship.   THats why he was so angry when Bush said no to gay marriage.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:51 PM (ovpNn)

279 I RELISH THE PROSPECT OF RUNNING THAT YELLOW CUR DOG OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.  And his nasty wife.

Posted by: disa at October 09, 2012 01:51 PM (Zfbfs)

280 Remember when Obama had that press conference with BJ Clinton, then left with Bill still talking to the Press? Obama is going to be too busy going on Letterman and The View to do the next debate, so he'll send in Clinton as his surrogate.

There is no way out for The Won. Nobody told him this is WHAT he won. BWAAHAHAHHA

Posted by: Fussy at October 09, 2012 01:55 PM (Y/2U4)

281 281 is Andi's beard so his Boyfriends can find his mouth with their Dicks?

Posted by: Evilpens at October 09, 2012 05:47 PM (ck76k)


NO, its to hide his tripple chin so they dont panic and think he might actually EAT eat their dicks and subsequently run away.

It also helps to hide the hammer he uses for those that change their mind.

Its also a stand in for Michelle Obama for when barry stops by.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 09, 2012 01:56 PM (ovpNn)

282 Andrew Sullivan can confirm that Big Bird is big.

Posted by: Hepcat at October 09, 2012 01:57 PM (frbyY)

283 GERG!!!!! GERG!!!! You father's name in Andrew Sullivan. I tricked him into my womb by pretending to be Sarah Palin.

GERG!!! GERG!!!!!

Posted by: Gerg's mom at October 09, 2012 02:01 PM (qxcKC)

284 @266 I only have one problem with this article. He is not a good man and he is not a smart man.

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I believe that ace was referring to Romney.  Read the couple of sentences preceeding that statement for context:



ACE: "One of the most wonderful things which will come with a Romney presidency is that Romney will finally, once again, separate Church and State. The president, finally, will just be a man. Not a perfect man. Not a prefigurement of Jesus. Not a prophet and not a savoir.

Just a man. A good man, and a smart man. But ultimately just a man."


Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 09, 2012 02:05 PM (P6QsQ)

285 The problem is that he is what he always is -- adequate and hardly ever more --

Adequate my *ss.  Ask the former ambassador to Libya how adequate he thinks the Bammer is.  Wait, he can't.  He's dead.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 09, 2012 02:06 PM (PMGbu)

286 You mean a good and honest man can kick the crap (verbally speaking) out of a bleeping empty suit of a SCOAMF?  Who woulda thunk it?

Posted by: Comanche Voter at October 09, 2012 02:15 PM (oe1aw)

287 so you want to trade in a B+ for a lying snake in the grass that would sell his mother for a profit? No thanks.

Posted by: youdidnotjustsaythat at October 09, 2012 02:55 PM (4wu6B)

288

When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong – faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.

-Dune

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at October 09, 2012 05:08 PM (52QEX)

289

I think it goes beyond, competence, Ace--I think that the reason this debate had the impact it did is because many Americans saw for the first time a president who is not the alpha we demand he be.  When looked at in this way, and put in the context of his crumbling policy of appeasement in the Middle East, it goes a long way towards explaining his reluctance to meet with strong leaders like Netanyahu, who would undoubtedly steamroll over him like Romney did. 

And it has to raise the question in people's minds, even if as yet unspoken:  in a head-to-head Cuban-Missile style confrontation with an alpha like, say, Vladimir Putin, would our daddy be able to beat up their daddy?  Might he overreact, as weak men often do, in order to prove his strength?

A year or so ago, Drudge ran a photo of a helmeted Obama delicately pedaling a bicycle, juxtaposed with one of Putin holding a rifle.  A lot of people dismissed the inference as ridiculous then; I don't think nearly as many would today.

Posted by: mkf at October 09, 2012 05:34 PM (Jyvq+)

290 Tasty post, Ace.  Very, very tasty. 

Posted by: Peaches hates California at October 09, 2012 05:41 PM (kpCLl)

291 I've long said that they took this guy, romanticized him and then wherever there were holes in his 'story', they filled up with their imaginations... As a female, I recognize this as exactly what women do when they foolishly quickly fall in love with someone that they really, really don't know...and then the relationship blows up in their faces, and they're looking for the plate number of that truck that just ran them over. Only this was on a national level. Group psychosis. That guy has ALWAYS been...exactly who he's always been. What changes is what you think of him. And what follows there is what follows here. A whole bunch of people slapping themselves on the forehead, saying "what in God's name was I thinking?"

Posted by: tired at October 09, 2012 06:15 PM (cHc31)

292 "As a female, I recognize this as exactly what women do when they foolishly quickly fall in love with someone that they really, really don't know...and then the relationship blows up in their faces, and they're looking for the plate number of that truck that just ran them over. Only this was on a national level. Group psychosis. That guy has ALWAYS been...exactly who he's always been. What changes is what you think of him. And what follows there is what follows here. A whole bunch of people slapping themselves on the forehead, saying "what in God's name was I thinking?"" Agree with everything but the last part. Realizing you pulled a no-brainer requires an introspection the likes of which an average Obama voter wouldn't have until the proverbial Sword of Damocles hangs over their heads. And sometimes, not even then. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups or a liberal's ability to delude himself.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at October 09, 2012 07:25 PM (WE5bx)

293 disprezsux

Posted by: disprezsux at October 09, 2012 08:32 PM (zL7S0)

294 Here's gonna be the interesting thing: ok, Obama was taken by surprise, he used the wrong strategery, Romney overwhelmed him, he didn't study, he used the wrong coach, etc. etc.

Next debate: no excuses. Obama knows what the stakes are. If he loses this badly again, game over, period. The 3rd one won't matter because, like Shaun Trende says, almost anything you do seems to reek of desperation at that point. Romney just needs to show up and nod sadly at the wreck of a formerly proud Lightbringer if we get to that point.

But taking the point of your post at face value, it's not that Obama didn't try, even if he tries, he can't beat Romney. I think a lot will hinge on how badly Romney dominates Obama, can he do so in such a way the press can't spin it as an Obama win, because then it's all "comeback kid!" and the "Americans love a fighter" and Obama is back up 1-2 pts, which is a win in this election.

We'll see I guess. I read about Ryan's debate prep and he's going to mop the floor with Biden. I would guess Biden is working on his laugh lines, because that's all he's going to get.

Obama is probably, for the first time in his life, desperate and panicked. He doesn't operate well in that atmosphere.

Posted by: docweasel at October 09, 2012 09:20 PM (h0KX8)

295 Andrew Sullivan - so called ex-conservative.

Will die as a known retard.

Posted by: currently at October 09, 2012 09:39 PM (flA6l)

296

The Ohio SurveyUSA poll confirms Romney's lead in Ohio for the moment. At www.insidepolling.com we re-weight the polls to historical voter turnout party weights for 2004, 2008 and 2010 along with some averages and electoral vote projections. This gives the reader the ability to see what the polls would look like under a party weighting that more closely aligns with their view of the electorate as opposed to the pollster's bias.

Posted by: insidepolling at October 10, 2012 04:03 AM (mrFht)

297

What's going on here is very simple. There's a significant chunk of the electorate, maybe 5%-6%, who aren't wild about the idea of another four years of Barack Obama, but who had, until last Wednesday night, heard nothing but negative things about Mitt Romney.

In that one 90 minute debate, Romney successfully dispelled the idea that he was nothing but a cold, stiff, ruthless, vulture capitalist and let these voters know, in much the same way that Ronald Reagan did in 1980, that it's OK to vote for him. He's now become an acceptable alternative.

That's why the polls are moving in Romney's direction and that's why he will win on Nov. 7th.

Posted by: Danram at October 10, 2012 04:36 AM (JB0q2)

298 Next time he calls you a "frothing Caesarist" call him milky loads.  He'll get it. 

Posted by: Cuttingboardblues at October 10, 2012 05:08 AM (yRD3l)

299 Yes, Romney was commanding, fluent and articulate, but he also lied and flip flopped his way through the whole debate.  Basically, at the end of the night, he said he'd be kind to everyone, and offered as proof nothing but totally bogus claims (half of the green energy companies receiving federal aid went out of business?  Really?  His healthcare plan is going to cover pre-existing conditions?  Really?).

Obama should have been ready to pounce and attack Romney's B.S., and clearly he wasn't.  Maybe he was overwhelmed by the audacity of Romney's lies.  No excuse though.  Romney is well known as the teflon man because he has always gotten away with spewing garbage (exhibit 1:  the Republican primary debates), and Obama should have been ready.  But now that Obama has seen Romney's playbook and knows from first hand experience that Romney will say absolutely anything (don't be surprised if he claims that the Martians attacked the U.S. embassies in the middle east), I expect Obama will be ready for the next debate.

Posted by: joe bob at October 10, 2012 06:55 AM (k93fv)

300 I have to disagree with your assessment that Obama has been adequate. If he had been adequate, he would at least have been Bill Clinton lite. As it is, he doesn't even reach Jimmy Carter stature.

Posted by: RebeccaH at October 10, 2012 03:11 PM (JAQT9)

301 Please! The political Left has been into the cult of personality for so long that it can only be considered a part of their DNA. FDR, JFK, Che, Clinton, Obama... it never ends. Their entire political worldview relies on the notion that the "big machine" will work dammit!!!, but only if it is operated by a superior person of uncommon intellect and moral stature. Since such people are scarce in the ranks of the Democratic, Socialist or Communist parties, they have to be constructed from the scraps and leftovers that God gave us. It is a fairy tale that intoxicates the Left. The "good" prince, the "noble" king that will set things right. What the left wants is a return to monarchy.... but now it will be the "right" kind. A monarchy of Nietzschean supermen, or of angels.

Posted by: Mike at October 10, 2012 09:20 PM (FgCjp)

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