December 20, 2012
— Open Blogger The left basically had two responses to the videotaped assault of Steven Crowder at the Lansing union protest:
1) Crowder deserved it for provoking an angry crowd. (The unspoken rule being that leftists are fully within their rights to punch someone in the face when confronted by words that upset them.)
2) The video was "selectively edited." Their favorite denial mechanism since Breitbart and James O'keefe burned them with the ACORN sting.
Crowder has now released the full video of the incident. And while it's true that it appears someone tossed that sucker punching union fattie to the ground prior to his attack on Crowder, it doesn't look like Crowder was the one who did it.
What is clear is that Mr. Sucker Punch was spoiling for a fight prior to the incident. The video clearly shows him following Crowder around, sticking a sign in his face, and cursing him out repeatedly.
The video also shows the union mob tearing down the Americans For Prosperity tent.You can see at least two women flee the tent as it happens. It appears that union slobs, in addition to being fat, lazy and stupid, also have no problem assaulting women.
As for Crowder, he comes off looking clean. He does not "provoke" anyone unless you define provocation as calmly disagreeing with a crowd of protesters.
All the provocation comes from the mob on the other side. At one point, Crowder is completely surrounded by angry, aggressive union members shouting profanities at him. Even as these guys push into his space using threatening words and gestures, he puts his hands up palms out to show non-aggression.
In fact, Crowder never raises his voice until they tear down the tent. That's when someone tosses the union member to the ground. It's not clear who did it, but it appears to be the man next to Crowder. I think what happened was that the confused, enraged, and likely alcohol addled union goon just came up swinging at whoever was nearest.
Crowder did an admirable job of protecting himself. This is what I said in the Overnight Thread about the incident after it happened.
I've watched the attack on Steven Crowder a couple of times and noticed something: Check out the :40 mark when the fat old drunk gets a little off balance swinging those haymakers.Crowder quickly closes the distance and ties up the guy's right arm. Then he moves in and begins to clinch.
Closing with the guy was smart. By doing so, he protected himself from further punches. It's hard to hurt someone when they're clinching with you. That's why boxers do it when they get rocked.
Once inside, he could have easily tossed this fucko on his head with a hip throw, gotten a body lock and tripped him, or taken him down with a double leg. But Crowder couldn't risk taking it to the ground with that hostile crowd all around.
I'm guessin Crowder understands a thing or two about fighting. That fat union goon? Not so much. Any decent fighter would get of two or three accurate strikes by the time he finished one of those wild, off-balanced haymakers.
Turns out I was right. Here's what Crowder said in the comments at Hotair.
Indeed. And notice how he kept his hands up and openÂ…clinched and tangled up the goons when possible.IÂ’m impressed.
Would love to put on some headgear and pillow-gloves and spar with the dude.
Got a feeling heÂ’d take me easyÂ…inside three rounds.
Tim_CA on December 20, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Haha thanks. IÂ’d actually love to. IÂ’m a grappler, not a striker though. ThatÂ’s why I clinched to defend, but immediately realized that if IÂ’d have defended myself, the mob would have killed me.
StevenCrowder on December 20, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Yup. Smart. Crowder would've beat that old man's ass if there weren't a mob of other angry, overweight goons on the verge of pulmonary embolism there to back him up.
But that's just how these loutish pigs roll, isn't it?
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Posted by: Voluble at December 20, 2012 03:42 PM (qYvEa)
It reminds me of Michael Moore wondering why New York got hit when so many New Yorkerssympathized with the Muslims, and why couldn't it have been a red state hit on 9/11.
Please get some perspective. Thanks.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 20, 2012 03:43 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Wooga at December 20, 2012 03:48 PM (NJeJT)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 20, 2012 03:48 PM (4Mv1T)
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Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2012 03:53 PM (sdi6R)
First give that book a read. Then do some thinking and planning.
I'd say food stores are what you want next if you don't have any. Wells are expensive to drill. More power to you if you can do it and survive the wife's wrath, but I'd hate to spring that one on my own wife without notice.
I'm not saying I'm an expert on any of this. Kick some stuff around with friends and family if you can. The more people you trust that you can get thinking this way, the better.
Posted by: Warden at December 20, 2012 03:54 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: rickl at December 20, 2012 03:56 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Trump at December 20, 2012 07:29 PM (F8Lnm)
That's messed up, man.
I don't care what your point was...that's just messed up.
Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2012 03:59 PM (K4wCe)
I want to be able to irrigate my garden without paying enormous water bills. I also want something that could convert to a hand pump if things went really bad.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 20, 2012 04:00 PM (GoIUi)
These Union Thugs are outright admitting...that their unions can't survive unless they can force people to join them.
Opperative word here, is 'force'.
Which is all they seem to know.
Posted by: wheatie at December 20, 2012 04:01 PM (K4wCe)
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Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 20, 2012 04:07 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: geoffb at December 20, 2012 04:09 PM (d3wbb)
I don't think this is an unspoken rule. As near as I can tell, it's always been an explicit, spoken aloud with pride rule.
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Posted by: NYC Parent at December 20, 2012 06:04 PM (Yl/80)
Having had several face downs with groups let me add these;
6)Without losing awareness of others, look the most immediate threat in the eyes and let your posture be one that says you will fight if necessary.
7)Respond to verbal threats firmly but without escalation. (no cursing)
*I am 200 plus pounds
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