July 15, 2012
— Open Blogger Good morning morons and moronettes. Welcome to this week's witty and urbane book thread.
Apropos of nothing in particular, here's a poster image I stole from the witty and urbane People's Cube website:

The guy who runs the People's Cube, Oleg Atbashian, is a Soviet-bloc immigrant who has been force-fed the crap sandwich of socialism all his life, and he came here to get away from it. So you can imagine that he's not real happy that he is now seeing the same policies that have destroyed his homeland being implemented here. And couched in the same rhetoric.
Fortunately for us, Oleg has compiled his witty and urbane thoughts on such matters into a book, Shakedown Socialism, which sounds like it's worth checking out.
Books Recommended By Morons In Earlier Threads
In yesterday's Ronald Reagan and John Paul II thread, moron "BS Inc." commented:
Also, I'll put in a book plug since the guy who wrote it is Polish. "The Captive Mind" by Czeslaw Milosz. Dude knew his way around Communist BS, that's for sure. One of the last good selections by the Nobel Prize Literature committee
I've never heard of this book before, but as it turns out, it's still in print. May God bless the Poles. They've always been our stalwart allies, and I believe that's perhaps one thing that President Ladies' Tee hasn't managed to screw up. Yet.
Also, in the Longmire thread from yesterday, several morons pointed out that the A&E series is based on books written by mystery author Craig Johnson, which they very much recommended. I believe this one is the first book in the series, out of 7 so far. I intend to put this on my stack ASAP.
The Longmire character is, of course, a real man's man. Below the fold is some eye candy for the moronettes, another shot of Australian actor Robert Taylor who plays him. You can thank me later.

What are you looking at, petunia?
Fun fact: Taylor was "Agent Jones" in The Matrix. I'd never have known.
That's all I have for this week.
As always, book thread tips may be sent to aoshqbookthread@gmail.com
Hopefully, you all have been reading some good stuff this week. So let's hear about it.
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Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 07:13 AM (ejmiE)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 07:13 AM (ejmiE)
Posted by: spongeworthy at July 15, 2012 07:15 AM (r5w1L)
Posted by: Old Uncle Tom at July 15, 2012 07:15 AM (oe1aw)
But one thing I noted in both books that harped about American and their taxation issues. They both failed to note that the new British taxes were levied in addition to the taxes levied by their local governments AND they had to be paid in gold or silver which was almost non-existent in the colonies at the time due to the British trade laws. People were losing thier homes and farms over this.
Currently reading The Long Way Home by one of or own Moronettes, Sabrina Chase.
Posted by: Vic at July 15, 2012 07:15 AM (YdQQY)
Upon arriving in Cherbourg by train, Mr Goolsbee was to ferry across the Channel to Southampton and then take the train to London for a meeting with business associates. No one matching his description was seen on the ferry nor the train.
He was allegedly accompanied by Miss Margarita DeVille, but witnesses recall seeing her board a Cunard liner to New York from Cherbourg, and the passenger list confirms that she boarded alone.
Professor von Totenkopf has provided an alibi for which I can find no collaborating witnesses, but several witnesses on the dining carriage on the night in question have come forth. None of these witnesses are of sterling character, but unless I can even verify that Mr Goolsbee has even met with foul play, I must conclude my investigations.
Brilliantly played, Professor
Posted by: Inspector Nigel Goodpenny at July 15, 2012 07:19 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker for dagny at July 15, 2012 07:21 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 07:24 AM (ejmiE)
Just started this one last night. Looks good so far.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 15, 2012 07:25 AM (qYiIT)
Currently reading "And They Call Me The Bad Guy", about a former pyrokinetic super villain who is in hiding from the authorities.
He's funny, vulgar, lazy and a blackout alcoholic. In short, he's a Moron. Best $3 I've spent in the Kindle store in a long while.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 07:32 AM (rMAmj)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 07:35 AM (ejmiE)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2012 07:36 AM (KZGrl)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 11:24 AM (ejmiE)
Bill Ayers is too busy, so I might have to use something like this as my Presidential Memoirs.
Posted by: Barry at July 15, 2012 07:36 AM (HtUdo)
Posted by: Viridian at July 15, 2012 07:36 AM (y5LXw)
Posted by: Monstrobot at July 15, 2012 07:39 AM (sTS/8)
I sure hope we win in the end, because it sure starts out badly.
It's written by James Hornfischer, who wrote "Last Stand of The Tin Can Sailors." Great writer, and an interesting approach to naval history. Lot's of detail about the commanders.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 15, 2012 07:39 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: king George 3rd at July 15, 2012 07:40 AM (KZGrl)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 07:42 AM (rMAmj)
Posted by: Vic at July 15, 2012 07:43 AM (YdQQY)
Still, still, still reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" although I am going to take turns with it and Andrew Roberts' "The Storm of War."
I finished "That's How I Roll" by Andrew Vachss and I was completely wrong: it never did really develop a plot. There were schemes and that sort of thing, but no overall story line. So very glad I got it from the library.
And I started and finished "Defending Jacob" by William Landay. It's the story of the consequences to a family when the son is arrested for murder. It's really quite good and kept me absorbed throughout. I was reading it because I wanted to find out what would happen next, not because I just wanted to get it over with. And I guessed completely wrong about the ending.
In the car, I am listening to "Boomerang" by Michael Lewis which tells us all we need to know about why Greece should never ever ever be bailed out. I recommend this book too if you are looking to understand the problems in Europe.
Posted by: Tonestaple at July 15, 2012 07:43 AM (jU2N3)
Posted by: Libra at July 15, 2012 07:45 AM (kd8U8)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2012 07:45 AM (G9qZk)
Tangentally to the Atbashian book: Why the fuck is it I'm seeing Pamela fucking Geller gaining attention and credibility as some sort of insightful purveyor of wisdom?<>>><
She first got notice for showing her tits off in her bikini video blogs. Now she has tried to scrub all evidence of it from the internet. Certain people refuse to let her forget it.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 07:45 AM (rMAmj)
Posted by: RedStateVT at July 15, 2012 07:46 AM (gaS1H)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 07:48 AM (ejmiE)
Currently reading Kevin Hearne's Hounded, thanks to whoever recommended it. Also got a copy of Sarah Hoyt's Darkship Thieves. She's had some expensive plumbing disasters recently and is trying to raise funds with short story sales, so I encourage Morons to visit www.accordingtohoyt.com (shakes ritual fist at Pixy) to see when the stories will be available (not yet, I checked)
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 15, 2012 07:50 AM (lu1IV)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 07:51 AM (rMAmj)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at July 15, 2012 07:51 AM (pop1z)
Posted by: Radar at July 15, 2012 07:53 AM (Z64pB)
Yeah, gonna pick up your book next, Sabrina. Been hearing lots of good things and my oldest is getting into YA fiction, so I'll screen it just in case your gutter-dwelling Moronette proclivities spilled onto the page.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 07:54 AM (rMAmj)
Is it okay if we talk about jerking off in books?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 15, 2012 07:57 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Plain Jane at July 15, 2012 07:58 AM (SAYgH)
Is it okay if we talk about jerking off in books?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 15, 2012 11:57 AM
Hey, NO SPOILERS !!!!
Posted by: Meghan McCain, distinguished author at July 15, 2012 07:59 AM (Y+DPZ)
I'm just saying, I find it somewhat stunning to be reading along in, say, National Review or Commentary and come across an advertisement for a new book on some heavyweight topic, and find endorsement blurbs featuring:
Victor Davis Hanson
David Horowitz
Daniel Pipes
Charles Murray
Pamela Geller
Ummm... WTF? Linking some third- or fourth-string benchwarmer with people who've put some real numbers up on the board is beyond my comprehension. It'd be like seeing a music festival of great old bands like Zeppelin & The Who & The Stones, plus a special appearance by the three kids who jam in the garage down the block.
Posted by: Monstrobot at July 15, 2012 08:00 AM (sTS/8)
Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at July 15, 2012 08:01 AM (pop1z)
Read Wool, the ebook that seems to be tearing up the Sci Fi realm, written by an unknown. It isn't bad, but it has some serious structural issues and certainly could have used some good editing. Still worth the $5.
Read Doubt, by Jennifer Hecht. Despite having a blurb by Chomsky on the cover, it was quite good if you happen to be an non-believing conservative. Covers the history of theistic doubt starting with the Greeks. Learned some things!
Posted by: ToddW at July 15, 2012 08:04 AM (lrkg9)
It will never be fixed. We are all stuck in 1995.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 15, 2012 08:04 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 08:05 AM (ejmiE)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 15, 2012 08:05 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 15, 2012 08:06 AM (L7hol)
Now, I have to go find the original "La Morte d'Arthur" by Mallory on Kindle.
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at July 15, 2012 08:07 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 15, 2012 08:09 AM (lu1IV)
I tried that one last year and just couldn't get into it.
Posted by: Vic at July 15, 2012 08:09 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Viridian at July 15, 2012 11:36 AM (y5LXw)
glad someone else is reading this.
ditto on the night circus. pretty but empty.
kevein hearne is also good, if you don't mind the lefty crap.
Posted by: Jim Bouton at July 15, 2012 08:11 AM (RLMC6)
Heh. Feeling a little "inadequate", are you?
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 15, 2012 08:13 AM (qYiIT)
It is the year 2081. Because of Amendments 211, 212, and 213 to the Constitution, every American is fully equal, meaning that no one is stupider, uglier, weaker, or slower than anyone else. The Handicapper General and a team of agents ensure that the laws of equality are enforced.
Posted by: butch at July 15, 2012 08:14 AM (nK2Sx)
@46,
Well, she's reading the Hunger Games novels, so I don't have a problem with violence. Violence Solves Everything.
Nazis? SOLVED.
Osama bin Laden? SOLVED.
Qaddafi? SOLVED.
Violence works every time it's applied in enough quantity.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 08:14 AM (rMAmj)
charliebrownsd***o, Neptune's Inferno sits waiting for me to start it, mostly digging ditches in the yard and doing other major house projects, sleeping late on Sunday and missing rifle matches after working hard to improve my clip-loading technique with the Mosin, and trying to pull myself through to finish Storm of War by some British journo (it's so-so at best).
Tin Can Sailors is one of my favorites and I'm looking forward to Neptune's Inferno. Also still have to finish off the last of Evans' trilogy on Nazi Germany. In the final, war-dominated book, I'm assuming he can resist the odd and unconvincing subtle romanticizing of leftist Germans that sprinkled the first two volumes.
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 08:15 AM (yJ3Du)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at July 15, 2012 08:20 AM (j5b23)
Missed the earlier "Longmire" thread. They really need to get some "advisors" who know guns and bears, just for example. First episode they're trying to find a .45-.70 and told they are rare, and it takes about 7 [5?] seconds between shots. When the sheriff is shot at, he just counts seconds and falls down. Some one might have checked the Marlin and Winchester websites, as the round is available in modern lever-guns. So the sheriff is dead on the second shot.
Did anyone else notice the "expert" [looking like a military/SWAT team type] who recognized the calibre of the mashed bullet held out to him in a baggie?
In last week's episode there was a killer grizzly - which when seen was a cinnimon-colored black bear. And the deputy/daughter relationship should be on a daytime soap opera. More pap out of Hollywood...
Posted by: OldeForce at July 15, 2012 08:21 AM (Ryn92)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2012 08:24 AM (G9qZk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 15, 2012 08:25 AM (05RcU)
Some of my enjoyment undoubtedly stems from the fact that I have that whole poor white Southern background thing goin' on, but I have enjoyed them tremendously!!! Thank you! I have the first four Kate Daniels series in waiting.
Vic mentioned Raven's Children being on sale last week, so I snagged it up and and swallowed it whole! I am now bereft of new Sabrina Chase stuff. Behold my sadface.
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 08:25 AM (SsG4J)
Actually, I don't mind so much, and I suspect pixy doesn't either. The lack of embedded html has brought the spam almost to a complete halt. Spam comments used to accumulate on dead threads like barnacles on a ship, but now there's hardly a one.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 15, 2012 08:26 AM (qYiIT)
Tonestaple, YMMV, but I'm finding Storm of War pretty meh. There actually were also a few whopper errors - one concerned Midway, I forget the others - but mostly it's just an example of how it's hard to pull off a grand sweeping account of events as huge as those in WWII. As a WWII addict, I can draw myself though just about anything on the topic, but Andrews' effort will not rank up there in my favorites list.
For some reason this reminds me of an interesting book that came out in the 50th anniversary year of 1995, "The Last Great Victory". Interesting combo of fascinating obscure anecdotal stuff, along with some important general points. It's in storage or lost, but I do recall some factoids such as a US Navy pilot landing at a Japanese airfield towards the very end of the war, and successfully directing the shocked and compliant soldiers there to set out white-painted rocks to spell out "Welcome from USN" for Army Air Corps pilots to see (or am I imagining that one?), plus the fact that the US military had to borrow the British military executioner (hangman) to carry out capital sentences against US soldiers (for rape and murder convictions) in the first months of German occupation.
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 08:26 AM (yJ3Du)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 11:45 AM
She did have some pretty nice cans back then, I'll give her that. Did she scrub the pics of her pushing her tits into every guy she wanted to be photographed with?
Posted by: kbdabear at July 15, 2012 08:29 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Jordan at July 15, 2012 08:33 AM (RSG1I)
Tin Can Sailors is just great! One of my favorites too.
I just picked up "The Storm of War: A New History of the Second World War,"
by Andrew Roberts. It comes highly recommended, and if I can wade through the other 30 books on my "to read" shelf, I'll be able to report whether it lives up to the hype.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 15, 2012 08:35 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 15, 2012 08:36 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 08:36 AM (ejmiE)
Two things you should never waste your nickel on:
1. The movie "The Help"
2. Anything written by Sarah Vowell.
Posted by: Libra at July 15, 2012 08:36 AM (kd8U8)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2012 08:38 AM (G9qZk)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 08:39 AM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 08:39 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at July 15, 2012 08:40 AM (A+OEV)
@61
I will not watch that abomination. Jack Reacher had scenes where some tough guy would try to intimidate him with a strong handshake, and Reacher would look him in the eye while he slowly crushed the other guy's hand in his giant manbeast paw.
Tom Cruise couldn't crush my daughter's hand with his ladybitch dickmittens. Fuck him and his elevator shoes, tiny little fuckbag. I love the Reacher series and understand Lee Child wants a big-draw actor to make lots of money.
Ray Stevenson would have been a great choice for Jack Reacher.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 08:41 AM (rMAmj)
Indeed, I definitely reckon so. Mmmm hmmm.
Ooooh! French fries!
Posted by: Jeff Goldblum as Karl Childers at July 15, 2012 08:43 AM (VB3qu)
Thank you, non-purist at July 15, 2012 12:26 PM Mostly I'm just looking for something more general with a faster pace to keep me from going insane while reading "The Rise & Fall...." It's really dragging and I'm having a hard time keeping track of people.
Also, I am constantly distracted by that one little bit of "Downfall" used in all the parodies where Hitler tells everyone to leave the room but four generals: Keitel, Jodl, ? and ? and I'm trying to fill in the blanks. Also, pronouncing all the German names correctly. Perhaps I shouldn't be reading this book after all.
Posted by: Tonestaple at July 15, 2012 08:44 AM (jU2N3)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at July 15, 2012 08:44 AM (A+OEV)
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at July 15, 2012 08:45 AM (gPgjN)
"Tangentally to the Atbashian book: Why the fuck is it I'm seeing Pamela fucking Geller gaining attention and credibility as some sort of insightful purveyor of wisdom? Appearing on talk radio shows, blurbing books (such as the Atbashian book mentioned) -- what are her fucking credentials that she's to be taken seriously as any kind of deep thinker? She runs a fucking blog. PERIOD. As far as I know, she has no scholarly background as such, has developed no insightful theses, has no basis for garnering intellectual respect whatsoever -- just another hack with an opinion. Fuck her."
/SARCASM ???
Posted by: Zombie Shane at July 15, 2012 08:46 AM (Z2i+W)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 15, 2012 08:46 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 08:48 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: eman at July 15, 2012 08:49 AM (ejmiE)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at July 15, 2012 08:50 AM (YyVZT)
@54- "In last week's episode there was a killer grizzly - which when seen was a cinnimon-colored black bear."
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Have to agree- that was pretty lame. And the business about staking the guy out, hands and feet tied and covering him with flank steak to entice a bear attack. Really!!? Flank steak? The show has some nice atmosphere and pacing, but the story lines are thin.
(Re-reading Hayek's The Road to Serfdom- a cautionary tale for the ages- prescient at the time)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 15, 2012 08:50 AM (hgSh3)
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at July 15, 2012 08:51 AM (wBSxn)
Posted by: tomc at July 15, 2012 08:51 AM (avEuh)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 15, 2012 08:54 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at July 15, 2012 08:54 AM (gPgjN)
I got "The Obamas" out of the library, the book by the Jodi Kantor that gives a giant tongue bath to the First Couple (of whats?). I've only read five or six pages and I'm already absolutely appalled by both of them and by Valerie Jarrett. Snobs and crybabies, the lot of them. I just want to know how Kantor thought this complimentary.
Posted by: Tonestaple at July 15, 2012 08:55 AM (jU2N3)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 15, 2012 08:55 AM (Ho2rs)
70....Ray Stevenson would have been a great choice for Jack Reacher.
Totally agree, EoJ.
Ray Stevenson is a great actor, in addition to being a big, tall guy.
I don't understand why he doesn't get more work than he does.
Maybe he's a conservative.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 08:55 AM (MbB0O)
Posted by: The Dude at July 15, 2012 08:56 AM (tw6Ar)
Definitely moronette leaning, and it is a vampire/witch/daemon story, but I have very much enjoyed the first two. In this one they timewalk back to Elizabethan England and she handled it better than I feared she would.
I am admittedly an Anglophile and the period is one of my favorites, but I think the story is wonderful.
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 08:57 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: natasha at July 15, 2012 08:58 AM (pyYXJ)
Posted by: butch at July 15, 2012 08:59 AM (nK2Sx)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 15, 2012 08:59 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Nukie at July 15, 2012 12:56 PM (AzwZn)
No fucking sense of shame. Jerry Sandusky wasn't available.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at July 15, 2012 09:00 AM (wBSxn)
Posted by: butch at July 15, 2012 09:00 AM (nK2Sx)
Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at July 15, 2012 09:00 AM (gPgjN)
Posted by: tomc at July 15, 2012 09:02 AM (avEuh)
Posted by: Abby in Abbeville at July 15, 2012 09:05 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: tomc at July 15, 2012 09:06 AM (avEuh)
Posted by: Abby in Abbeville at July 15, 2012 09:07 AM (Dll6b)
"Ray Stevenson would have been a great choice for Jack Reacher."
"Totally agree, EoJ. Ray Stevenson is a great actor, in addition to being a big, tall guy. I don'tunderstand why he doesn't get more work than he does."
Top Four Reasons Ray Stevenson doesn't get more parts in Hollyweird:
4) Doesn't fly a Douglas DC-8 in outer space.
3) Became too popular on HBO's Rome, so needs to be put back in his place.
2) Waayyy too masculine [might even be heteronormative].
1) Can actually act.
Posted by: Zombie Shane at July 15, 2012 09:07 AM (Z2i+W)
Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher???!!! I guess we'll next have Kal Penn as Mitch Rapp. I would hope the author's lawyers kept some say for Lee Child in casting with the sale of rights. Sheesh.
As to books, read every night, nothing of substance. Pulp fan.
Posted by: eureka! at July 15, 2012 09:07 AM (ZIccV)
Posted by: occam at July 15, 2012 09:09 AM (71sq+)
Posted by: t-bird at July 15, 2012 09:09 AM (FcR7P)
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Glad to hear we're making a difference.
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I finished Apocalypse Codex, the most recent Laundry novel by Charles Stross. Kind of a meh book. One of the draws of the Laundry series is the new and interesting way of looking at the universe. There aren't a lot of new ideas in this one. It felt like "oops, I'm running out ideas for Bob, I'd better hurry and introduce some new major characters I can use in future novels".
Yeah, Stross isn't terribly enamored with Americans and Christians and that is clear in this book. It also isn't surprising, as he's made it clear in other books; I was aware of that going in.
A bit of a disappointment; I'm not looking forward to further Laundry works as I was before reading this one.
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I also finished Doc Savage: The Infernal Buddha. Someone had mentioned Doc Savage a few weeks ago and I realized that it had been a dang long time since I had ready any, so I picked this one at random.
I didn't notice that it is actually a recent book until after I finished it and read through the "about the author" stuff at the end. The Amazon page describes the author thusly: "Writing as Kenneth Robeson, prolific pulp writer Will Murray continues the Doc Savage saga, working from the unfinished works of series originator Lester Dent. "
The book is set in the mid-30s. Japan has invaded China and set up Manchuko, but WWII has not yet started. More importantly, it is written *as if it were written* in the mid-30s; I didn't stumble across anything that gave the game away. Well done on that score.
There are a number of typos throughout the book, although not at a density high enough to be particularly annoying. The book also goes out of its way to use fancy, big words (I don't recall if this is a feature of the original Doc Savage series; it has been a *long* time since I read any of them), but not always successfully. Some of the usages are just a bit off, and I had put them down to changes in word usage since the mid-30s, but others are just plain wrong; at one point, we have Doc Savage "indicting with his fingers" in a manner that doesn't involve sitting at a typewriter hammering away at legal documents.
Apparently, this book is part of a series of new Doc Savage adventures. Well done and I'll probably read more of them, but I'll also be careful to pick up some of the original series.
Posted by: Anachronda at July 15, 2012 09:10 AM (1c58W)
Posted by: tomc at July 15, 2012 09:12 AM (avEuh)
Dude still thinks it's 1896
Posted by: Abby in Abbeville at July 15, 2012 09:12 AM (Dll6b)
@73.
Nonsense.
Say that to my face and I'll kill you. Or you'll be forced to kill me in self defense. Either way, it is yet another situation solved by Our Friend Violence.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 09:15 AM (rMAmj)
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Could be worse. Could be a blob of sparkly toothpaste.
Posted by: Anachronda at July 15, 2012 09:16 AM (1c58W)
Thesaurus writing. Poor or new writers feel the need to use bigger words than they are familiar with. He was probably thinking 'accuse,' cracked the thesaurus, and saw 'indict.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 15, 2012 09:19 AM (Vcb44)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 15, 2012 09:21 AM (Z9EHQ)
Democracies are based on placating and ameliorating, etc, so they will bend over backwards / forwards / sideways ( if you're a Perv ) to avoid war
among adversaries / enemies, violence does accomplish a lot--for a while
Posted by: Abby in Abbeville at July 15, 2012 09:21 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Palerider at July 15, 2012 09:25 AM (ql12X)
have Doc Savage "indicting with his fingers" in a manner that doesn't
involve sitting at a typewriter hammering away at legal documents.
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Thesaurus writing. Poor or new writers feel the need to use bigger words than they are familiar with. He was probably thinking 'accuse,' cracked the thesaurus, and saw 'indict.'
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Actually, he was pointing at something, so it's a typo; he was "indicating with his fingers". It's the sort of typo a spell-checker won't catch.
Posted by: Anachronda at July 15, 2012 09:26 AM (1c58W)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 15, 2012 09:28 AM (G9qZk)
Tonestaple, I will drag myself through the Roberts book but it is definitely not a page-turner (as, say, Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors manages to be). I think I recall the 10-megaton Midway error now (more or less - how lazy am I that I won't just go look it up?): Roberts writes that Yamamoto believed the US carriers would not show up to fight at Midway, when in fact of course the primary objective of the whole operation was to draw them out for destruction. Errors of that magnitude sort of reduce confidence in what Roberts writes on areas I do not know well and where I must rely on his version (China-Burma-India, for example).
Mortified and scared that I can't even come up with a few titles to cover your desire for a general survey of WWII. Most of my collection is locked away in a distant place (if it's even still there), but still ..... I'm drawing a blank on such books. All that come to mind are outstanding books that chew on one specific piece of the animal - Last Stand, Shattered Sword (Midway), Downfall (the one by Frank), At War with the Wind (kamikazes). I really have to finally try to see if I can get my stuff out of storage and have it shipped to me.
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 09:32 AM (yJ3Du)
Posted by: Vic at July 15, 2012 09:34 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: butch at July 15, 2012 09:34 AM (nK2Sx)
Um, no. In the 30's the Democrats were all swoony over Fascism, the third way between Communism and Capitalism. The Republicans at that time actually believed in government limited by the Constitution.
Posted by: butch at July 15, 2012 09:37 AM (nK2Sx)
Posted by: Tonestaple at July 15, 2012 09:39 AM (jU2N3)
Posted by: Mark Thompson, MSNBC's In-House Cultural Interpreter at July 15, 2012 09:40 AM (zMouK)
105, 125
Occam is right, because that lifelong notable republican Joe Kennedy loved Hitler and was the ambassador to the court of St. James/////
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 15, 2012 09:43 AM (mFxQX)
You might also want to check out Samuel Eliot Morison's 15-volume history of the US Navy in WWII. Covers all theaters. US Naval Institute just re-issued it in paperback.
Posted by: butch at July 15, 2012 09:47 AM (nK2Sx)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 15, 2012 09:47 AM (r4wIV)
Tonestaple, you are kind - but I remain appalled at my crumbled memory banks. Yikes.
My advice: push through Storm of War, and when you're almost done order Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors. And you'll have a hot sauna/frozen lake side-by-side comparison of the difference between plodding story-telling and gripping, page-turner historiography.
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 09:47 AM (yJ3Du)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 15, 2012 09:48 AM (vH2EM)
Posted by: butch at July 15, 2012 09:50 AM (nK2Sx)
134 butch
Apologies. It's just that, with the disappearance of Mr Austan Goolsbee and the whereabouts of Professor von Totenkopf unknown, I fear that I have little time ...
Posted by: Arbalest at July 15, 2012 09:54 AM (vH2EM)
Posted by: Nukie at July 15, 2012 09:55 AM (AzwZn)
i like the contrast between the two characters butch... they're so different but they're still "bro's"-- and Ben has a nasty way of getting things done at times-- and then there's that flaky muse "O"-- she sends me--
thanks naturalfake, i'll try Frankie Machine...
Posted by: tomc at July 15, 2012 09:56 AM (avEuh)
http://tinyurl.com/7hfco8e
Posted by: fozzy at July 15, 2012 10:01 AM (FEzSe)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at July 15, 2012 10:05 AM (1X/a4)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 15, 2012 01:47 PM (r4wIV)
Blast, had a long comment about how I liked Old Habits and the Sabrina Chase books I've read because you're both good to your secondary characters but I lost it due to lack of anything in the name/e-mail fields and am too lazy to recreate it.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 15, 2012 10:06 AM (h6HiH)
Posted by: Baron Vladimir Harkonnen at July 15, 2012 10:07 AM (e8kgV)
Naturalfake @ 121-
I second that on"The Winter of Frank Machine"; picked it up at the library yesterday afternoon, and finished it about 11 last night. Great book, great characters. I really enjoyed it. Haven't read "Savages" yet, but so far Don Winslow has impressed me as a writer.
Posted by: DaveinNC at July 15, 2012 10:08 AM (/NgNT)
butch - thanks
Eagle Against the Sun sits on my little stack of WWII books that I do actually have with me. So it's next after Neptune's Inferno.
The Atkinson series - uh, can only give my own take, but I was given the first volume as a gift when it came out and could not get past the first 100 pages. Nothing substantively outrageous, but the writing ..... my god. Over-written doesn't begin to capture it. I can still recall the words that might have broken the camel's back, where I actually closed the book forever: "quicksilver runnels" ..... describing, I think, some streams in North Africa. I suppose the series must have merit, but ..... my high school English teacher would have been merciless in excising all the over-written grandiloquence.
But Atkinson's substantive credibility was seriously damaged (it was already pretty much just that of a WaPo/NYT staffer - medium at best) by his initial dispatches from Iraq in 2003.
Some morons may recall that a few days in to the complete (and predictable) rout that was the second Iraq war, the Coalition forces mostly took a break during a sandstorm to get a little rest (one gets tired conquering a country without rest for a few days). I was getting little rest myself back in the US, staying up all hours reading the "press" but also monitoring other stuff I was getting from personal contacts.
Atkinson was with some Army unit and shared the byline on a front-page/above-the-fold/primary WaPo war story of the day about the situation. It was the most absurd "reporting" I'd ever seen (OK, it was a tie with zillions of other dispatches over the years, but wow what an atrocity). The Coalition was conquering Iraq about as fast as logistics, due care for safety, human requirements for rest, and now mother nature (sandstorm) made feasible. Iraqi forces were being swept aside easily.
But the tone and substance of the story would have been appropriate for the first day at Tarawa ("issue in doubt"), or Christmas week 1944 in the Ardennes, or day two at Gettysburg. Yikes, what horseshit. I still recall one quote (and this speaks to the frightening limitations of some in uniform as much as the cluelessness of Atkinson and co.) from some officer in the command post: "when does this end?". (the not-uncommon sarcastic response from obdservers afar, who hadn't lost their minds - "uh, 3 or 4 days?"). I emailed the story, along with my furious and somewhat gobsmacked fisking of it, to my usual email circle, to make sure they saw it. Of course the preposterous "war bogs down, what now, oh my god!" nonsense dominated all "reporting" of the war that day.
Within days, of course, the major combat portion of the war (if it could be called that) was over. Duh.
Anyway, that single story is a devastating indictment of Atkinson's military literacy and seriousness, at least to me. Now I rarely took many of the mainstream "journalists" seriously on serious national security topics, ever. But it's hard to think of a more preposterous, inexcusable, dramatic example of a reporter beclowning himself than to have had any part in the absurd stories that day of the Iraq war.
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 10:10 AM (yJ3Du)
[cough, cough]
Posted by: polish death camps at July 15, 2012 10:10 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at July 15, 2012 02:05 PM (1X/a4)
I checked Kindle and it's $10. Is it *that* good of a read, since my usual max is $3.99? I did get the EOJ recommended "Hammerhead" though, since apparently the author donates some of the proceeds to help wounded veterans.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 15, 2012 10:10 AM (h6HiH)
I may be the last Amazon Prime member to discover that my membership entitles me to borrow one book a month on my Kindle, free, if it's on their "Lending Library" list. So I decided to read something I'd never have read otherwise, The Hunger Games, to see what all the fuss is about. Pretty good book, actually, and I say that as someone who often has difficulty enjoying fiction written by women. Nice tension, decent characters, interesting story.
I guess it's a trilogy, which does not seem quite natural, in that the key part of the story seems to have been told. Also, I have some fears that two angles which were not excessive in the first book will become so, in later parts:
(1) Oh isn't it so exciting to be a chick and have two men as rivals for your affection. Maybe it is, but as a guy reader, it's just an eye roll. Shut up about it already.
(2) Oh isn't this oppressive and unfair class society awful (that part's OK, the one in the book really is), and don't you see so many analogies to modern America (in fairness, no hint of that yet that I can see, but these days, one has to worry that an author will spring this)
Still, the other two parts seem to be in the lending library, too, so I may pick up the next one for $0.00 when August arrives.
Posted by: Splunge at July 15, 2012 10:11 AM (2IW5Q)
I started Jim Powell's FDR's Folly: How Roosevelt and His New Deal Prolonged the Dreat Depression in late May, mislaid it with a few chapters to go, and found it last week. Done. The story would infuriate if voters had learned from the failure of Roosevelt's soft socialism. Since they have not, it's infuriating and depressing to see troday's voters following the voters of the 1930s.
Plant a garden. Buy more ammunition.
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at July 15, 2012 10:12 AM (2cves)
Posted by: the MFM at July 15, 2012 10:14 AM (vDl/w)
Re: "wingnut"
Someone mentioned upthread....that the term "wingnut" must've been a reference to 'right-wing'...
Not necessarily.
'Wingnut' is one of those terms that can be applied to either persuasion.....just as an actual wingnut bolt can be turned either left or right.
The term was originally used for a 'weird person' who is out on the extreme wing of a theory or interpretation of something.
Personally, I've heard the term 'wingnut' used by conservatives as a descriptive for "left-wing-nuts"....well, at least when they are trying to be polite.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 10:16 AM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Monstrobot at July 15, 2012 11:39 AM (sTS/
Her claim to fame is that allegedly, Ace made a comment about her breasticles that she thought was rude.
She also did this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0A0aQ3ntAQ
Posted by: MrCaniac at July 15, 2012 10:17 AM (1grxW)
Posted by: Ruby at July 15, 2012 10:24 AM (QAUe4)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2012 10:25 AM (vDl/w)
I'm sticking with wing-nut as a pejorative against righties, and moonbat against lefties.
Posted by: toby928© at July 15, 2012 10:26 AM (QupBk)
Well your kind sentiments are appreciated even in vapor comments.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 15, 2012 10:27 AM (r4wIV)
Her heroine reminds me very much of you, for some reason I can't identify.
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 10:28 AM (SsG4J)
152So what have you guys done to fight radical Islam in your home towns? Organized any events like Geller has? <<<<
I walk around in a Speedo.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 10:29 AM (JDIKC)
>>>So what have you guys done to fight radical Islam in your home towns? Organized any events like Geller has? <<<<
I have a pair of nunchucks made from two sausages connected by bacon strips.
Posted by: Pork Ninja at July 15, 2012 10:32 AM (wm/l4)
For those who like Hornfischer's books on Guadalcanal and destroyer actions, another to get is Ship of Ghosts:The Story of the USS Houston. CA-30 USS Houston and HMAS Perth were the last cruisers of ABDA-Afloat to oppose the Japanese invasion of the Dutch East Indies. Both went down fighting and then the survivors were captured by the Japanese. Very few of each crew survived the hell of imprisonment to see the end of the war.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2012 10:34 AM (PHI4f)
152So what have you guys done to fight radical Islam in your home towns? Organized any events like Geller has? <<<<
Iwalk around in a Speedo.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 02:29 PM (JDIKC)
Don't forget to deny that it ever happened. Scrub all evidence of it. Ban anyone whoever brings up that yes you once did do that. And then make whiny bitchy complaints that some ewok kept staring at your package.
Posted by: buzzion at July 15, 2012 10:34 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 15, 2012 10:38 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 02:28 PM (SsG4J)
I'll look her up. Good to see you again, was wondering how life aws treating you.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 15, 2012 10:42 AM (h6HiH)
153....I'm sticking with wing-nut as a pejorative against righties, and moonbat against lefties.
I prefer 'barking moonbat', myself.
My point was, though....that you can't always be sure when someone uses the term 'wingnut', that they are using it as a pejorative towards righties.
The left doesn't own that term....even though they may think they do.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 10:42 AM (MbB0O)
The thing is, I read everything I could get my hands on by the time I was 8, and I was always able to skip over even the really lurid stuff. (It was just "mushy" to me) Just not sure how vulgar you'd consider it, given her age.
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 10:43 AM (SsG4J)
Thanks Anna, I've seen the book in stores in the past and haven't picked it up - yet .....
The Allies were well and truly getting their asses kicked in the western/southwestern Pacific in the first phase of the war. Can't wait to get to Neptune's Inferno.
The IJN's night-fighting surface warfare shtick was pretty awesome. Don't recall if that was the MO in the Java Sea massacre, but obviously it was at Savo Island and subsequent engagements that gave the name to Iron Bottom Sound.
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 10:44 AM (yJ3Du)
160 I don't get the Pam Gellar hate.
Gellar went off the rails last year....calling Rick Perry a "dhimi", waging a jihad against him.
It was embarrassing to watch.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 10:44 AM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 15, 2012 02:42 PM (h6HiH)
I've been in Arkansas; first half of the trip I was busy helping with farm stuff, second half I stayed at my place and we don't have internet there yet, so I was limited to being online when I went to mama's at night.
Back in Cali now, trying to catch back up! Are you still Twitter Queen??
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 10:46 AM (SsG4J)
So there's someone who gets plenty of air time and uses it to attack radical Islam and its followers in the States like the 9/11 mosque assholes and CAIR but you think she should STFU because she's not "credentialled" enough or because of her run-in with Ace?
I think it's more important to complain about the real assholes in the West, leftist and Moslem, rather than trying to get in Ace's good books by shitting on Geller or getting off on attacking a woman (not that this applies to you, buzzion) when she's used as an anti-Islam pundit.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2012 10:46 AM (vDl/w)
@160. "I don't get the Pam Gellar hate. She seems reasonably well informed and works hard, why isn't that qualification enough to talk about an issue?"
Agree. Let's defer the faction fights 'til after Congress repeals Obamacare and the President enforces immigration laws.
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at July 15, 2012 10:46 AM (2cves)
Posted by: Jordan at July 15, 2012 10:51 AM (RSG1I)
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 02:46 PM (SsG4J)
Hey, Tammy....I wasn't sure if that was you, without the 'Thor' in your sig.
I just wanted to thank you for the idea of using Honey on my poor doggeh's nose condition.
It's working.
Seems to be clearing it up....and he loves it....starts slobbering whenever he sees me getting out the honey jar.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 10:51 AM (MbB0O)
Also from Atbashian: "If some people had wings and others didn't, and the government wanted to enforce "fairness," soon no one would have wings. Because wings cannot be redistributed, they can only be broken. Likewise, a government edict cannot make people smarter or more capable, but it can impede the growth of those with the potential. Wouldn't it be fair if, in the name of equality, we scar the beautiful, cripple the athletes, lobotomize the scientists, blind the artists, and sever the hands of the musicians? Why not?"
The last full sentence is the premise behind the popular children's book, "Rainbow Fish," an intro to socialism!
Posted by: RushBabe at July 15, 2012 10:52 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: Miss Tammy at July 15, 2012 02:46 PM (SsG4J)
No, not Twitter queen. Real life's been either frantically busy( or I've been trying to recover from the frantic busyness) for the last couple of months. My real goal with Twitter was to follow you and other Horde members, not to have a following myself. There are a couple tweeps I'm trying to talk into visiting here though, as they seem like natural Moron material.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 15, 2012 10:53 AM (h6HiH)
Had radar been properly used the outcomes would have been much different. As it is the Japanese commanders lacked the will at crucial moments to carry their attacks to full victory, mainly because of the U.S. success in rapidly turning Guadalcanal into a floating aircraft carrier made them fearful of daylight air attacks.
The Japanese never thought the American's could, or would, act as quickly as they did to protect the Austrailian's logistic lifeline.
Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 15, 2012 10:55 AM (Q3WfW)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2012 10:55 AM (vDl/w)
ABDA-Afloat was a cluster-f*ck at sea. The commanding admiral was Dutch. Two Dutch cruisers, one British cruiser, one Australian cruiser, and one American cruiser all escorted by 10 destroyers. And no air cover.
Long Lance torpedoes did a number on the allied ships. But it was the language barriers and jury-rig of the fleet that truly doomed it before it sailed. Then Admiral Doorman seemed intent on fighting Jutland in his desire to stop the Japanese without air cover. So there goes HMS Exeter [who helped hound Graf Spee to destruction] and HMS Electra and a Dutch destroyer. American tin cans got sent home after using up all torpedoes. So Doorman had four cruisers and no DDs. Dutch cruisers Tromp and DeRuyter gone. That left Perth and Houston. And they both went down in Sunda Strait.
USS Edsall later vanished somewhere in the Java Sea. After WWII it was found the tin can had been trapped by Japanese cruisers and sunk. Then the sailors murdered. Five beheaded bodies were all that was found of Edsall's crew.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2012 10:56 AM (PHI4f)
Proper use of American radar in night surface actions off Guadalcanal, then look up Arleigh Burke and Moosbrugger.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2012 10:58 AM (PHI4f)
I just wanted to thank you for the idea of using Honey on my poor doggeh's nose condition.
It's working.
Seems to be clearing it up....and he loves it....starts slobbering whenever he sees me getting out the honey jar.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 02:51 PM (MbB0O)
Miss Tammy was my first nic, but Thor was offended, insert eye rolling emoticon here.
I had been meaning to ask after the pup, but couldn't rememebr who he belonged to! SO glad he seems to be better! Sort of leans to it being fungal, huh? Or bacterial.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 11:02 AM (SsG4J)
Blatant self-promotion alert:
"The Curious Disappearance of Seamus Muldoon"
Get it free on Kindle at Amazon starting tomorrow for three days or as a loaner. I don't care if anyone spends any money on it.
This is the story of my f-i-l's disappearance in 2008, written in almost a Walter Mitty "what if" style. Sort of like saying "he disappeared mysteriously... hilarity ensued".
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 15, 2012 11:02 AM (hgSh3)
168....I think it's more important to complain about the real assholes in the West, leftist and Moslem....
Posted by: andycanuck at July 15, 2012 02:46 PM (vDl/w)
Exactly.
But this is what Gellar didn't do herself....when she attacked Rick Perry and other conservatives.
She's damaged her own credibility, by doing exactly what you are asking that we not do.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 11:04 AM (MbB0O)
Anna and whatmeworry?, you're making me feel even more inadequate (and forgetful) about that phase of the war.
I do recall radar being an issue in the engagement involving the USS South Dakota. Presumably Neptune's Inferno covers this in depth?
Well, I did do the LoC vet's interview for the man who was junior radar tech on the USS West Virginia, whose radar first detected the Japanese column at Surigao Strait on Oct. 25, 1944, and fired the first salvo ...... so there's that, I guess.
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 11:05 AM (yJ3Du)
Posted by: Maya Angelou, hey I have 4,000 million honorary doctoral degrees at July 15, 2012 11:06 AM (VB3qu)
178....Sort of leans to it being fungal, huh? Or bacterial.
Yep! Definitely.
It's also gotten really dry here....so the mold and fungi out in the yard aren't very active....just like it was during the winter months.
But since I've been applying the honey to his nose, the results are amazing....the scaly layer is disappearing.
I just wanted you to know that....and Thank You.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 11:09 AM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 11:09 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 11:09 AM (SsG4J)
Four US destroyers - Parrot, Pope, Ford, and Paul Jones slipped into the bay. Only using the fires of the burning oil fields for illumination, the sailors of these four tin cans aimed their torpedoes using Mk.1 eyeballs. When the four ships left the bay the following enemy ships had fallen to their torpedoes and gunfire - Kuretake Maru, Tsuruga Maru, Somanoura Maru, and PC-37
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2012 11:12 AM (PHI4f)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 03:09 PM (SsG4J)
Yes we're well, sorry to make you worry. The kids just have a lot more activities than they used to and we got a sudden chance to see my sister for a couple of days before she started a new job which meant that I did the 13 hr drive (14 hr trip) to/from CO twice in one week, something I try very hard to avoid most times. I also have started getting crochet students (thank G-d) which means I have some cash to pay for books recommended here.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at July 15, 2012 11:15 AM (h6HiH)
@Miss Tammy,
She is eight, but reads at a very high level. So much that books for her age seem babyish to her, so I'm always on the lookout for more challenging material for her that isn't too raunchy.
I'll check into that series. Thanks!
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 15, 2012 11:18 AM (JDIKC)
My dogs have very dry scaly noses and it sounds like this might help.
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2012 11:22 AM (Cnqmv)
EoJ, I'd have loved the series at her age, but I was reading Ian Fleming when I was that age, so again, not sure my judgement is sound on the matter. But the heroines are scrappy and I'd have adored them at 8. Do at least read the first one yourself, I think you'd like it, too! An actual Moron recommended them to me, not an 'ette.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 11:25 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 11:27 AM (SsG4J)
Other books to read might be Theodore Roscoe's Tin Cans which is an abridged version of the same author's United States Destroyer Operations in World-War II. Covers US destroyer operations across the globe. Covers the actions off Guadalcanal in some detail including Kondo's force detecting Lee's two battleships before USS Washington's radar picked them up.
There is also Battleship at War by Ivan Musicant. Ship history of the USS Washington. Including that night action against the Japanese along with USS South Dakota. Though it should be read with a pinch of salt considering how vindictive it is against South Dakota's crew during that action.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2012 11:30 AM (PHI4f)
Hrothgar,
My dog developed a layer of dry, scaly...raised...and flaky, skin, across the top of his nose.
I asked out Vet about it....and he was pretty dismissive about it, said to just "Put some Vaseline on it".
Which actually made it worse.
I searced the web for solutions....and there are a wide variety of them.
I bought fancy creams and lotions from PetSmart and PetCo.
Nothing worked.
One clue that I had, as to what was causing it.....was that it started going away for a while, during the winter months....when there is less fungal activity out in our yard.
My doggeh....like most doggehs....has his nose to the ground, snuffling the trails of the rabbits, squirrels and raccoons, which frequent our property at night.
But....as I mentioned....putting Honey on his nose is working.
It is working fast, too.
I noticed the improvement occurring within the first few days....and now, it is about 50% better.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 11:31 AM (MbB0O)
This is too funny. Occupy South Bend, She's a gonner....
"The last General Assembly had an attendance of three. At the next GA, it has been proposed that we decide whether there is enough interest and motivation left among those who had been Occupiers. The number of people who attend will be a strong indicator of whether or not Occupy South Bend will continue."
Posted by: Cicero Kid at July 15, 2012 11:37 AM (xCxXI)
Think it might be a genetic predisposition with my bracicephalic pups and not fungal (I have not noticed much difference in winter or summer, but need to ask wifey about this). But it is still worth a trial. Thanks for the feedback.
BTW, we tried a farm product (vaseliney in nature) called Bag Balm which seemed to help, but I like the idea of honey as a natural cure.
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2012 11:38 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 11:43 AM (SsG4J)
Hrothgar,
I tried Bag Balm....tried Vetericyn....they didn't make it go away.
Since I've been using the Honey...the thickened layer of bubbly-looking, scaly stuff, has flattened out and is sloughing off.
Before....the layer was gradually growing, starting to cover the sides of his nose.
Honey has some anti-bacterial, anti-fungal properties to it....so that could be why it's working faster and better than anything else I've tried.
Posted by: wheatie at July 15, 2012 11:48 AM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2012 11:48 AM (Cnqmv)
We used to raise bees, and honey does have a lot of interesting properties, I just never thought of it as a skin balm.
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2012 11:50 AM (Cnqmv)
Come on, y'all, go on and buy it!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 11:53 AM (SsG4J)
Keep in mind Bag Balm also has antiseptic properties, so the honey may help a bit, and your pups might enjoy the taste better!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 12:04 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: rickl at July 15, 2012 12:07 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: non-purist at July 15, 2012 12:08 PM (yJ3Du)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 15, 2012 12:08 PM (SsG4J)
Another to track down is a WWII ship history "And Pass the Ammunition" by Father Forgy. Recounts the war cruise of the heavy cruiser USS New Orleans from Pearl Harbor until her bow is blown off by a Japanese torpedo off Guadalcanal. The shock of the explosion killed the crew in turret #2, they were found still manning their posts.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2012 12:35 PM (PHI4f)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 15, 2012 12:37 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 15, 2012 12:45 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at July 15, 2012 12:48 PM (A+OEV)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at July 15, 2012 04:48 PM (A+OEV)
Not so fast there!
Posted by: Anthoony Weiner at July 15, 2012 12:49 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: DaveA at July 15, 2012 12:51 PM (yVsIQ)
Posted by: Nnfield4 at July 15, 2012 01:04 PM (TCrl1)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at July 15, 2012 01:10 PM (csi6Y)
DD-434 sunk 15 Oct 1942
USS Meredith (Cmdr Harry Enson Hubbard) was lost near San Cristobal Island in the Solomons. Sunk by air attack while escorting the USS Vireo and petrol barges, alerted to the oncoming attack had taken on the crew from the Vireo which was abandoned and left adrift. The Japanese dive bombers appeared from the carrier Shokaku concentrated their attack on the Meredith sinking her with many hits and then strafed the survivors. 182 were killed and 78 survived from the Meredith, and 55 were killed and 15 survived from the Vireo. The commanding officer of the Meredith died of wounds and the Commanding officer of the Vireo Lt James Claude Legg survived though wounded as was every one else. The survivors were rescued by the USS Grayson, Gwin and Seminole and also PBY VP-51.
USS Gwin would be sunk a month later when USS Washington and USS South Dakota slugged it out with IJN Kirishima.
DD-726 sunk 9 June 1944
USS Meredith (Cmdr George Knuepfer, USN) was sunk by a near miss after being bombed by German aircraft on 9 June 1944. The ship was already badly damaged after hitting a mine off Utah Beach during the Normandy invasion the previous day. 35 of the ships crew were lost and 322 of her survivors were rescued by USS Bates and PC 1232/1262 and 26 were wounded.Amongst the survivors was the Commanding officer.
DD-890 managed to survive the war. Later transferred to the Turkish navy and renamed Savastepe. Was scrapped in 1995.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2012 01:14 PM (PHI4f)
Didn't take long to run into this:
On this very morning, John Hancock, the president of Congress, had begun his day by beseeching each colony to gather every scrap of available lead so that it could be recast into cartridges for the army.
Umm. Cartridges? In 1776?
Posted by: Anachronda at July 15, 2012 01:38 PM (1c58W)
Posted by: Anachronda at July 15, 2012 01:46 PM (1c58W)
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Posted by: Devil-Slayer at July 15, 2012 01:55 PM (NPj28)
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at July 15, 2012 03:01 PM (Cnqmv)
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Posted by: steevy at July 15, 2012 03:51 PM (Xb3hu)
Just got through the nursing home scene. It made me cry, as my great-aunt who raised me for half of my childhood is in a nursing home. (She's 91.)
Every time I go there--minimum of once a week--I see all those people reduced to infants. My aunt is not that far gone, but she still thinks she can walk. She can't and when I was taking care of her at home (nine months), it got to the point where I couldn't leave her room without her trying to get up. She is the sole reason I am still in CA. All of the rest of our family lives in other states.
I hope someone puts a pillow on my face should I get to the nursing home point.
Posted by: baldilocks at July 15, 2012 04:35 PM (6kWFm)
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 15, 2012 05:10 PM (r4wIV)
@226
Geller was right. Perry's response: "You have no heart" to primary opponents who wanted to limit illegal immigration indicated an unserious attitude toward immigration concerns and a a willingness to resort to cheap one-liners instead of thoughtful consideration. How'd you like to hear that line is a discussion of entitlement reform or foreign aid?
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