September 16, 2012
— Open Blogger

"What are you laughing at? We're serious journalists."
Good morning morons and moronettes and welcome to the completely fair, unbiased and totally down-the-middle objective Sunday Morning Book Thread.
Media Bias? What Media Bias?
We all know that the mainstream media is so completely in the tank for Obama that they need snorkels and scuba gear. Thay want him to win, they will help him win, and I can't think of anything they wouldn't do to help him win. And boy, was it on display this week. Here is how Zombie from PJMedia described it:
When the world erupted on September 11 and the Obama administration groveled at the feet of our barbarian attackers, the major news outlets — knowing that this was a disastrous turn of events for the Obama campaign which could not be spun in his favor — decided the only solution was to brazenly change the subject to a fabricated peripheral side issue: that Romney had committed some kind of “gaffe” by criticizing the government’s weak-kneed response.
Here is a particularly jaw-dropping example of this I pulled from he the sidebar.
Of course, there have been many books written about media bias.
Media Mischief and Misdeeds: Reed Irvine is the original "old hand" at observing liberal bias. He founded the first conservative media watchdog group, Accuracy In Media (AIM), in 1969. This book was published in 1984, so it's probably way out of date and probably doesn't anticipate how despicable the current MSM has become.
Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News must be really irritating to liberals since Goldberg used to be one himself, and adding insult to injury, he once worked in the belly of the beast, CBS News. The book starts out by Goldberg analyzing a "fact check" by CBS News on a statement made by a conservative politician, and he exposes it as nothing more than just another biased, liberal opinion. And it gets better from there. Goldberg has gone on to write other books in the same vein, notably
A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media. This is another one which is probably outdated, since it was published in 2009, and the Obama knob-slobbering it describes has only gotten worse.
On a more sober note, Left Turn: How Liberal Media Bias Distorts the American Mind is an atteant to use rigorous academic research methods and precise, quantitative techniques to measure the extent of media bias. Here's a spoiler of the book's conclusions:
(i) all mainstream media outlets have a liberal bias; and (ii) while some supposedly conservative outlets—such the Washington Times or Fox News’ Special Report—do lean right, their conservative bias is less than the liberal bias of most mainstream outlets.
Of course there are are books written by those who believe that the media unfairly favors the conservative perspective (this book and this book, for example). The moonbats are fond of using the phrase "corporate-owned media", as if "big corporations" are automatically conservative. Also, Rush Limbaugh. And that's it. That's pretty much the extent of the liberal argument that the MSM favors the right.
From the E-mail Bag
Last month's sci fi thread prompted moron Joe Clunis to write and to tell me about audio fiction podcasts, hitherto unknown by me. But it may be worthwhile to those of you who are into audio books. Joe says
These podcasts, and the others they link in their sidebars, do quality work in everything from short stories, really short stories (100 words), longer multi-episode works, and radio drama style serials. These are great ways to sample new authors. I'll also point out several authors publish their own podcasts with their own works, including full length novels. While production values might not be as tip top as other outlets, the price (free / soliciting donations) is more than reasonable.
Most of these are downloadable, which means you can burn them to a CD or maybe a flash drive or SD card and listen to them in your car or mp3 player. Here are some of the examples Joe provided:
Asimov's Nightfall on Escape Pod
Heinlen's All You Zombies on Escape Pod
Beagle's Come Lady Death on Podcastle
Clarke's The Star on The Drabblecast
Clarke's The Last Question on The Drabblecast
So that's it for this week. As always, book thread tips may be sent to aoshqbookthread@gmail.com
So what have you all been reading this week?
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Posted by: The State Media at September 16, 2012 07:08 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at September 16, 2012 07:09 AM (KCvsd)
Not counting the original trilogy, which I thought was good (except I hated the ending), he is on the sixth book in the follow-up series. IÂ’ll see how it goes after I finish these two on whether they are even worth getting free from the library.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 07:09 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: J. Gacy at September 16, 2012 07:09 AM (z9HTb)
That book may be dated but it is outstanding. Also by being 2009 vintage it should be easily available at all the local libraries.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 07:11 AM (YdQQY)
Yeah, so?
Posted by: George R.R. Martin at September 16, 2012 07:11 AM (yx6fZ)
Posted by: Fredlike at September 16, 2012 07:11 AM (ztMxN)
Posted by: Barry S at September 16, 2012 07:13 AM (n/nCi)
Posted by: Edward Cropper at September 16, 2012 07:14 AM (Lt3vg)
Posted by: George R.R. Martin at September 16, 2012 11:11 AM (yx6fZ)
My wife got me the first two of your books in that series. I tried twice to read the first book and gave up both times after less than 1/4 of the book. I gave both of those books to our local library never having cracked the second one.
In short, your books sucked.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 07:14 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Zakn at September 16, 2012 07:16 AM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: alwyr at September 16, 2012 07:17 AM (Oh5R1)
Been reading Milton Friedman's Free to Chooseand started on Churchill's The Gathering Storm
Thanks for the heads up, Vic!
Posted by: fluffy at September 16, 2012 07:18 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 16, 2012 07:19 AM (HethX)
Books on media bias are much older than the ones mentioned, which I'm sure you know. This one was on the bookshelves at home when I was in junior high: "All the News that Fits" by Herman Dinsmore. You can find copies here if you're of a mind: http://is.gd/1F7FH0
I finished "The Obamas" by Jodi Kantor. Talk about slobbering love affairs. Kantor really seems to be more in love with the Mrs. than the Mr., but she really can find no fault in either one. It's an awesome piece of self-delusion and, in case you didn't know, Republicans are just mean, M-E-A-N, mean.
Having just finished a book about the Green River Killer, I am re-reading "The Only Living Witness" about Ted Bundy. It's really one of the best true-crime books I've ever read. The authors decided to ask Bundy to "speculate" about how the murders were done in order to get past Bundy's ridiculous insistence on his innocence, so it's nothing short of fascinating.
I'm also reading "Bitter is the New Black" by Jen Lancaster. It's the first in her series of memoirs and it's funny and a lot of fun to imagine being as brazen as she is. I've read another of her books and enjoyed it.
Posted by: Tonestaple at September 16, 2012 07:19 AM (gvVlx)
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 16, 2012 07:22 AM (rqlRk)
I forgot: in the car, I am listening to "Hitman" by Howie Carr, the tale of some guy named Johnny Martarano who was a, wait for it, hitman for Whitey Bulger's outfit.
I've never read non-fiction about mobsters so this is quite the revelation. These guys are stupid and classless and repulsive and, of course, amoral. They are low and disgusting human beings and I don't understand how anyone would voluntarily choose to live like this. I guess it's easier if you're already stupid and classless and repulsive and amoral. But, jeez, they're just horrible.
The most redeeming thing about the book is, it's read by the deliciously-voiced Keith Szarabajka.
Posted by: Tonestaple at September 16, 2012 07:24 AM (gvVlx)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 16, 2012 07:25 AM (Ho2rs)
Good Lord POLITICO,,,Romney doesn't set Foreign Policy. It's clear POLITICO really likes waving the pom-poms for President empty chair but honestly...how can anyone take this site seriously?
its impossible to take this kind of attitude with anything but contempt. Even people who are voting for Obama have to be staring at the press like they are retarded kids telling them a story about a beetle.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 07:25 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 07:25 AM (gPyYF)
These guys all suffer badly from inflation, their books get bigger each sequel and they lose the focus and character that made their initial book interesting and likeable.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 07:27 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 07:29 AM (gPyYF)
Posted by: TheMightyMonarch at September 16, 2012 07:29 AM (olczy)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 07:30 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Debbie WasserWaterBuffalo Schitz at September 16, 2012 07:31 AM (lJ3rV)
http://tinyurl.com/9abhmpr
Instead of saying "the Obama administration has asked YouTube to censor and take offline the goofy anti-Mohammed film",
Say:
OBAMA IMPOSES NEW BLASPHEMY RULES
Give them both barrels ... truth and emotion.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 07:32 AM (0aV2C)
Pictured above from L to R
"Special" Ed Schultz, Keef "Bubbles" Olberman, Andrea "Andrea" Mitchell, George Snuffleupagus, Brian "Tea Party!" Ross, Kirsten Powers, Mr. Rachel Madow, and Walter Cronkite.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 16, 2012 07:34 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at September 16, 2012 07:36 AM (r4wIV)
The fact that people keep buying them helps as well.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 07:37 AM (0aV2C)
SOT wasn't near as bad as WOT which STILL has not been completed.
And so far even the change series I was talking about hasn't gotten as bad as WOT.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 07:37 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Robert Jordan's Ghost at September 16, 2012 07:42 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 07:43 AM (j1gX1)
They need to look back at Fritz Lieber's work. His Fafhard and Gray Mouser books were quick, to the point, entertaining, consistent, and interesting. He didn't feel the need to create this gargantuan world of epic events that each book is even more cataclysmic. Even Lord of the Rings was pretty character focused and tight, for its grand scope.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 07:43 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Isophorone at September 16, 2012 07:45 AM (m/Ana)
And lets not bead that dead corpse called Jordan again. The guy had verbal diarrhea.
And this Thursday for movie adaptions of books. Tinseltown/Cinemark is going to show David Lean's 'The Bridge on the River Kwai' staring Alec Guiness and William Holden on the big screen.
http://youtu.be/83bmsluWHZc
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 07:45 AM (gPyYF)
Posted by: @PurpAv at September 16, 2012 07:46 AM (NUhYo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 16, 2012 07:48 AM (j1gX1)
Add Freedom Betrayed by Herbert Hoover to that list. He does a damned good job of cataloging FDRs screw ups during his administration, both at home and in Europe and Asia.
The libtards at the publishing house were so frightened by it that they had an editor put a hundred plus page rebuttal in as the prologue.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 07:49 AM (0aV2C)
Hmph. Peasant.
Now excuse me while I waddle on over into the kitchen. There's a cream cheese sandwich, a turkey drumstick, and a gallon of chocolate milk with my name on it.
Posted by: George R.R. Martin at September 16, 2012 07:50 AM (yx6fZ)
Posted by: Donna V. at September 16, 2012 07:50 AM (xEumh)
Posted by: zippy at September 16, 2012 07:51 AM (nR8Ca)
I had no idea Brin had a time machine and was actually writing a documentary.
Posted by: @PurpAv at September 16, 2012 07:52 AM (NUhYo)
I didn't think Patriot Games was too awful bad. But Sum of All Fears. They should have retitled it to
"Fears of Muzzies Made Us Take A Good Book and Turn it to Shit and keep the title and characters to make money".
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 07:52 AM (YdQQY)
Blaming that stupid video short for AQ's plot is like trying to have the cart pull a dead horse.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 07:53 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 07:53 AM (gPyYF)
If it has any content, even a blank screen with elevator music, it will enrage Muslims.
Posted by: @PurpAv at September 16, 2012 07:53 AM (NUhYo)
Posted by: art garfunkels ugly kid at September 16, 2012 07:54 AM (Kaabf)
Ah, but, Anna, rent the Sum of All Fears. Turn on the commentary and hear Clancy punch the director in the junk repeatedly.
Thing of gold.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 07:55 AM (3CiXB)
It would work well. Postmen travel/move, so you don't have to clumsily force new situations within the same cast/sets each time.
Posted by: @PurpAv at September 16, 2012 07:56 AM (NUhYo)
Posted by: Byline: Clairabell at September 16, 2012 07:57 AM (RLTt1)
I liked the Patriot Games movie, even though they severely altered the story. It kept enough of the original elements and worked pretty well as a film of its own. The book is a lot better.
I still say they should reboot the series and film them as historical set pieces. Start with Without Remorse set in the early 70s and go from there, through time as the books came out. Cardinal of the Kremlin, all of them.
Unfortunately, they aren't. They have Chris Pine playing a prequel to The Hunt For The Red October that Clancy didn't even write.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 07:57 AM (r4wIV)
I've wondered why Clancy allowed them to do that. You'd think an author with his clout would have some say-so on the contents of the shooting script, but maybe not.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 07:58 AM (yx6fZ)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 07:59 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 16, 2012 07:59 AM (HIidb)
How long till Obama starts out each question about the middle east with WE INHERITED A VERY BAD SITUATION AND IT WAS EVEN WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT!!! ITS NOT MY FAULT!!!!
How long until the American people wake the fuck up and realize this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure is a miserable failure on all fronts.
Look people, the only difference between those ignorant unwashed morons protesting burning shooting looting beheading and supporting facist overlords and worshipping at the alter of a fanatic barbarous pedophile that created a bullshit oppressive religion and the people supporting obama is that the obama supporters havent started beheading those they disagree with yet.
and thats a big yet...
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at September 16, 2012 07:59 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 11:57 AM (r4wIV)
Whorrywood almost never does a conservative book so they can't do Jack Ryan stuff as written. I was totally surprised by Hunt For Red October.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 08:00 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 08:01 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: zippy at September 16, 2012 08:01 AM (nR8Ca)
Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 08:02 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 08:02 AM (HDcKc)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 16, 2012 08:02 AM (HIidb)
Our republican billionaires need to buy up the stock of the major media corporations and change the management from the inside.
The NY Times and Washington Post and LA Times. Buy em...change em.
change their culture.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at September 16, 2012 08:03 AM (ovpNn)
Oregon Muse, it all depends upon how the contract is written. At the time of 'Sum of All Fears' perhaps Clancy lacked enough clout to get final review rights on the screenplay in the contract. And we the viewers got stuck with that horror.
If you want me to combust with the loathing of a million suns, its what Costner did to Brin's novel The Postman.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 08:04 AM (gPyYF)
Posted by: Achmed bin Al Fazul at September 16, 2012 08:06 AM (z1Zdt)
JAY CARNEY: This is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy. This is in response to a video that is offensive.
WALLACE: You donÂ’t really believe that?
AMB. Susan 'Fucking' RICE: Chris, absolutely I believe that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 08:09 AM (3CiXB)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 08:11 AM (ovpNn)
JAY CARNEY: This is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy. This is in response to a video that is offensive.
WALLACE: You donÂ’t really believe that?
AMB. Susan 'Fucking' RICE: Chris, absolutely I believe that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 16, 2012 12:09 PM (3CiXB)
Look at me! I am still a stupid bitch!
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 08:12 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 08:12 AM (sdi6R)
I agree, after the first 4 they started to become tiresome. I didn't get past chapter 4 of the last one. I'm waiting for the final novel in the series to see how he wraps things up without purchasing any of the others he might churn out in between. Any of the books before the last one I'll read the plot synopsis on Wikipedia or another site.
Posted by: LRBnSC at September 16, 2012 08:13 AM (KoQo8)
Posted by: lesbian seagull at September 16, 2012 08:13 AM (xXhWA)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 08:14 AM (aHR5E)
Rush made a point the other day...many of us cannot believe that the vote is this close and we get upset that Mitt is not further ahead or such. We know 99 percent of the polls are slanted to Obama one way or the other...but Rush made a great point....turn that question around...why is Obama not 20 points ahead of Romney? Think about it. Rush said with all the non-stop hit pieces, the slanted stories, the MSM bias, the daily claims of Romney gaffes, Obama spending nearly 100 million more than Mitt in June, July and Aug against Mitt and the MSM hides information on the economy, jobs, money and more why is Obama not up by 20 points? Why is Romney still tied? Why was Romney not taken out in June?
We get discouraged but Rush is right. The onslaught against Mitt from every newspaper, every media outlet, Hollywood, pundits and reporters is non-stop. We see it everyday yet we wonder why Mitt is not ahead? How could anyone survive that onslaught. Remember Reagan had three TV networks...today Romney 24 hour news against him. It is Talk Radio, Conservative Blogs and some others that defend Mitt. Yet Mitt is tied but I think really ahead....So like Rush said....why with all the help Obama has had is he not up 20 points over Romney?
Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 08:16 AM (HDcKc)
Susan Rice: Muslims love us and this is all because we hurt their feelings with a youtube video
Can we revoke these fucktards' citizenship?
How do you grow up in this country and turn out this way?
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright the dog at September 16, 2012 08:16 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 16, 2012 08:16 AM (AZGON)
Mentally noted. Kind of expensive for Kindle.
Thanks Kristophr!
Posted by: fluffy at September 16, 2012 08:16 AM (z9HTb)
Of course the Israelis are not going to talk to Barky.
Anything he is told gets accidentally repeated to AQ through back channels.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:17 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 08:17 AM (aHR5E)
It was the stupidest thing you could do. Every classroom had a wall of windows on one side just like that one in the movie Red Dawn.
And there was a SAC air base less than 50 miles away that my father worked at.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 08:17 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 12:14 PM (aHR5E)
Why are you surprised?
Do you expect anything less from the propoganda rag that set itself up solely for the purpose of being "a living history of the obama presidency"?
The meme is Obama is historic and god damn it to hell we are going to stick to that meme if it kills all of us including you.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 08:18 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 16, 2012 08:18 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:18 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 16, 2012 08:20 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:20 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: eman at September 16, 2012 08:20 AM (Wp4rQ)
Yup. This is the first book of John Christopher's "Tripods" trilogy. The other two are "The City of Gold and Lead" and "The Pool of Fire".
Yes, they would make great movies. There was a BBC miniseries in the early 1980s, but it never completed.
Good books. And the author is a cranky old British conservative.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 08:20 AM (yx6fZ)
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 08:21 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at September 16, 2012 08:23 AM (GCxwy)
Posted by: eman at September 16, 2012 08:23 AM (Wp4rQ)
http://bit.ly/ORgLXr
No, I've never read a shiny, glowing book. Probably good for night reading.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 08:23 AM (yx6fZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 08:25 AM (gPyYF)
Posted by: mallfy at September 16, 2012 08:26 AM (NI3M5)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 16, 2012 08:27 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 08:28 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: eman at September 16, 2012 08:28 AM (Wp4rQ)
I went to the link and checked out the comments on this story about mitt and this comment was great, it was the second one listed:
Gregson
Party: NA Reply #2 Sep. 14, 2012 - 4:37 PM EST
The Obama Campaign has now put the word out to the MSM to "dial back" on their coverage of events in the Middle East as a Foreign Policy "meltdown" is NOT good for the Health of the Obama Campaign.
And the MSM readily complies - as they too are nervous that the Country will lay the blame of a 2nd Arab Uprising at the feet of Obama during the Presidential Election Campaign.
So today we will see CNN, NBC, NYT, WaPo and a host of National Media outlets revert to their mindless "fluff pieces" or their complicit Political narrative of promoting the Obama Re-election Campaign.
Events in the Middle East will quickly be shoved to the back burner of National Media coverage - but for the 1st time in history, I have the capability and the reach to pursue the News Stories that are important to me, and millions of Americans are doing the same.
The Network Media are fast becoming our secondary News sources.
The selective coverage, the distortions and diversion of our blatantly biased Media is a National disgrace - it flies in the face of the very objectivity they so hypocritically claim to protect, and the duplicitous messaging of our National Media is now beginning to backfire politically on the Obama Campaign.
Will America survive another 4-years of ObamaÂ’s incompetent Leadership?...
Your vote will determine the future of America!
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 08:29 AM (ovpNn)
http://www.kittyhell.com/2010/07/31/hello-kitty-biker-girl/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 08:29 AM (gPyYF)
Another issue on polls...we all like Ras....but be aware Ras is also oversampling females.....that is why you may see some weird numbers from him. He is not manipulating age groups like NBC, Survey USA, PPP and others are doing but he has the female vote up 2 percent more in election. All the others are increasing youth vote to numbers that are nowhere near possible..some instances 10 percent more than 2008....yet youth enthusiasm is way down and registrations for youth is not up!
Now in some states like MO: Ras has 56/44 Female to Male....just keep that in mind...in 2010 it was 52/48....and same in 2008...so even Ras is playing with the female numbers. Show me any state where you have 56/44 Female to Male Voter....
PPP is doing 60 percent female to 40 percent male...Hear that men...I guess we are disappearing faster than Houdini!!
Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 08:30 AM (HDcKc)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 16, 2012 08:30 AM (AZGON)
I've read a couple of chapters and my guess is that the author is a conservative. The reason I think this is because the book is completely apolitical.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 08:32 AM (yx6fZ)
http://bit.ly/ORgLXr
Actually, yes, and abridged version of the hadiths and suras as well:
You can get straight english versions without the interpretive bullshit and without contributing accidentally to moslem causes from CSPI publishing:
http://tinyurl.com/9zpoogh
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:33 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 16, 2012 08:33 AM (D9IU8)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 08:34 AM (yx6fZ)
Posted by: eman at September 16, 2012 08:34 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 08:35 AM (HDcKc)
Posted by: Chas at September 16, 2012 08:35 AM (jgmcm)
# 45
Brin is generally good. Costner though...he always ends up wandering off into the trees. Worst actor ever, IMO. His 'trademark' emotionless deadpan delivery got old after three sentences.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 16, 2012 08:36 AM (L7hol)
Just finished reading "Witness" by Whittaker Chambers - still relevant to modern-day situations, 60 years later. Just substitute the word "Progressive" everywhere you see the word "Communist".
I dog-eared all of the pages that had "good stuff" on them - ended up with a lot of dog-eared pages.....
On page 616: "You don't undertand the class structure of American society," said Smetana, "or you would not ask such a question. In the United States, the working class are Democrats. The middle class are Republicans. The upper class are Communists."
Or on page 499 - where you can substitute the words "Middle East" for "Soviet Union", and "Radical Islamists" for "Communist":
...the people who were implacably opposed to my editorial views on the Soviet Union and Communism were not Communists. Here and there, a concealed Communist may have been at work. But the overwhelming might of the opposition came from people who had never been Communists and never would be.
They were people who believed a number of things. Foremost among them was the belief that peace could be preserved, World War III could be averted only by conciliating the Soviet Union. For this no price was too high to pay, including the price of willful historical self-delusion......Hence like most people who have substituted the habit of delusion for reality, they became hysterical whenever the root of their delusion was touched, and reacted with a violence that completely belied the openness of mind which they prescribed for others. Let me call their peculiar condition, which sometimes had unconsciously deep, (and sometimes very conscious) political motives that it would perhaps be unmannerly to pry into here - the Popular Front mind.
Nor can it be repeated too often that most of those who suffered from it were not Communists. Yet Communists, at a critical spin or history, had few more effective allies.....Particularly [the Popular Front mind] dominated all avenues of communication between the intellectuals and the nation. It told the nation what it should believe; it made up the nation's mind for it. The Popular Fronters had made themselve the "experts". They controlled the narrows of news and opinion. And though, to a practiced ear, they never ceased to speak as the scribes, the nation heard in their fatal errors the voice of those having authority. For the nation, too, wanted peace above all things, and it simply could not grasp or believe that a conspiracy on the scale of Communism was possible or that it had already made so deep a penetration into their lives.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 16, 2012 08:36 AM (P6H+d)
Stupid and weak seem to be Barky's trademarks.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:37 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 08:37 AM (sdi6R)
Tell me we are not being gouged on a lot of these damned e-books.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 08:39 AM (YdQQY)
http://tinyurl.com/9zpoogh
Thanks for this link, which I've bookmarked. Too bad they don't have eBook versions of their books available.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 08:39 AM (yx6fZ)
#115, Costner just butchered the whole story. There is NO mule! And the happy ending. Gack. Then there is the matter of his acting.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 08:40 AM (gPyYF)
A soon as the majority when electronic, the usual high book prices chased them.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:40 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at September 16, 2012 08:41 AM (GCxwy)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 16, 2012 08:43 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:43 AM (0aV2C)
Inthat my commute is abour 2.5 hours per day and I'm getting burned-out on talk radio (can't take Levine's yelling any more) I've been listening to audio books. I downloaded an app for the Andriod called "Audiobooks" that has a whole lot of public domain books read by volunteers from something called the Libre Vox project. All of the downloads are free as is the app. The quality of the readers varies somewhat but what do you want for nothing? There's a bunch of apps with various books, try out a couple in that they're free or cheap.
I've used the app to listen to the first three John Carter of Mars books as well as the first Tarzan. Next up is Tom Sawyer then Treasure Island.
I found that this works well when I sync my android up to my car stereo via Bluetooth. I picked up a Bluetooth compatible stereo for less than $200 from Crutchfield. I can also connect via a USB cable. The stereo also has a Pandora button and has HD and satellite radio. When I connected the USB cable it automatically went into my phone and started playing music from my music folder. Amazing stuff.
Posted by: Max Entropy at September 16, 2012 08:43 AM (NwTXA)
The first six chapters or so are all rainbows, skittles, and unicorns; it takes the emigrants a while to discover that they've opened The Scary Door. From there, it becomes a harrowing tale of survival among the gulags and the incompence and apathy of the American government, which doesn't want to make waves. Not many stories are told, becuase not many survived.
Bloodlands makes you hide under your for fear of monsters. The Forsaken breaks your heart.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 16, 2012 08:43 AM (c16IJ)
@44
Someone with computer skillz should make that Bill Maher montage... he actually rages against radical Islamics quite a bit on his show on HBO also ( which is supprising, considering how much of a leftist douche he is )... of course he considers non-violent religious Christians and non-violent religious Jews just as bad as murderous religious Muslims. Heh. How much of an idiot ( democrat? ) do you have to be to equate them?
Posted by: The Guy That Falls For Almost Anything at September 16, 2012 08:43 AM (CO0GN)
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 08:43 AM (YdQQY)
He did the perp walk because Barky mainlines stupid and weak sauce.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:45 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: Sir Hillary Rodham Edmund Clinton at September 16, 2012 08:47 AM (Jl3/t)
Today, as a result of the Carter policies. a generation of iranians have been born into opression, a nuclear Iran threatens isreal and the rest of the western world, and the near total destruction of the housing market are the gifts we enjoy.
In the past 3.5 years Barrack stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure Obama has fucked up the economy with his disasterous policies of supporting massive increases in debt, union favoring auto bailouts, burning taxpayer money on pie in the sky solyndra style green projects, and devaluation of the dollar, not to mention the new 40 BIllion a month mortgage buying fiasco thats going to lead to a whole new slew of houses for people who cant afford them, and destabilized the middle east with his bowing and apologizing and diminishing of americans military strength while supporting "freedom fighters" like the muslim brotherhood or as they call it Democracy (muslim democracy = 1 head 1 vote....chop off the head if you dont agree with me) and undermining the regimes in egypt libya and syria with out having enough brain cells to atleast analyze whats going to replace them when they lose power.
What fruits will we reap from this fucking guy's decisions? I have a feeling we wont have to wait 35 more years to find out...
Thank you very much 52% of america. You definately helped build this giant stinking shitpile we are mired in now.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 08:47 AM (ovpNn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 08:47 AM (gPyYF)
Stalin recruited Finnish-American socialists to settle the territory they grabbed from Finland. The group was protected by Stalin because the kids raised there were his main source of idiomatic American English speaking spy recruits.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 08:48 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 16, 2012 08:53 AM (3CiXB)
Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 08:56 AM (6o4Fb)
Book i'm thinking about buying....link above takes you to the book description on the publishers website
Endgame: The End of the Debt SuperCycle and How It Changes EverythingGreece isn’t the only country drowning in debt. The Debt Supercycle—when the easily managed, decades-long growth of debt results in a massive sovereign debt and credit crisis—is affecting developed countries around the world, including the United States. For these countries, there are only two options, and neither is good—restructure the debt or reduce it through austerity measures. Endgame details the Debt Supercycle and the sovereign debt crisis, and shows that, while there are no good choices, the worst choice would be to ignore the deleveraging resulting from the credit crisis.
The book:
* Reveals why the world economy is in for an extended period of sluggish growth, high unemployment, and volatile markets punctuated by persistent recessions
* Reviews global markets, trends in population, government policies, and currencies
Around the world, countries are faced with difficult choices. Endgame provides a framework for making those choices.
Posted by: rich evil republican bastart at September 16, 2012 09:03 AM (/nCpZ)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at September 16, 2012 09:05 AM (MmH0Z)
Posted by: pray for peace at September 16, 2012 09:08 AM (oZfic)
"143 Last night the obama campaign sent out an email saying they were giving out free bumper stickers."
What we've noticed here is a decided lack of bumper stickers. I saw a small "MITT" sticker in the back window of a BMW, but that's about it. This is a red-leaning oasis within barking-mad lefty upstate NY. Do bumper stickers usually show up earlier?
Posted by: Optimizer at September 16, 2012 09:19 AM (As94z)
Posted by: naturalfake at September 16, 2012 09:22 AM (G9qZk)
Its only a parole violation if HE put it on the internet instead of someone else, using his account. Good luck proving that.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 09:25 AM (r4wIV)
here is one I made:
http://www.cafepress.com/+car_magnet_10_x_3,581211630
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 09:26 AM (0aV2C)
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 09:27 AM (0aV2C)
Here's a fun thought experiment: remember when candidate Obama in 2008 spoke (in a setting he thought was unrecorded) to some big-money supporters, and lamented the bigotted and xenophobic rubes in flyover country who don't have enough sense to vote for Dems like him, because they're clinging to their guns and their Bibles.
Imagine Barry speaking in the same disparaging manner about ignorant Muslims, clinging to their shoulder-mounted missile launchers and their Qurans.
Hahahaha. Can't really see that happening, can you. I wonder why?
Posted by: Bystander at September 16, 2012 09:40 AM (/sohm)
Posted by: occam at September 16, 2012 09:47 AM (71sq+)
Posted by: Matt at September 16, 2012 09:48 AM (abV4l)
Now it's all about branding and striking a pose. Part of the pose is keying cars and shooting out windows. Weimar had great musical theater, but nobody left their car parked on the street.
My personal car is not leased, and cannot be replaced. That puts it out of politics, as far as I'm concerned. It's enough of a risk that everyone around here knows that it's my car.
The house is armed, alarmed, and camera'd up, but my time is valuable and I'd just as soon not spend it in adjusters' offices or court. This is the world we've made for ourselves. Might as well live in it.
Posted by: comatus at September 16, 2012 09:52 AM (qaVK+)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at September 16, 2012 09:59 AM (7v5Ct)
That was always understood. Expectations met. Always.
It isn't simply Obama, though he is now to blame, being The One with the job. The American people expect violence from foreigners now, even from each other. And given never ending warfare, starting with the domestic "Wars" vs. poverty, crime, U-Name-It, to the GWB first strike domino game that Obama mutated into the US tax payer financially sponsored Arab /Coil/, US Policy has devolved civilization to the level of Islamist fundamentalism. Damn.
And the current Republican Leadership through their own beclowned media denounce Goldwater Republicans, erasing existence from thought and disavowing rule of law as a result. 2012 is skipping past double damn through triple damn. The Cornerstone of Goldwater's Republican Party has been rejected, consequentially destabilizing what remains of the Big Tent's foundation.
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 16, 2012 10:01 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: JPS at September 16, 2012 10:12 AM (wS6Sf)
Posted by: Avi at September 16, 2012 10:26 AM (51xVX)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at September 16, 2012 10:28 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 16, 2012 11:07 AM (64x5r)
I have now started Lord Of The Mountains.
Posted by: Vic at September 16, 2012 11:29 AM (YdQQY)
Say what you will but Romney / Ryan are running one shitty campaing. They were planted by Karl Rove. The same genius that gave us GWB who thouroghly split the GOP. It's us Tea Partyers vs the Establishment. Why Paul Ryan jumped on this train I do not know. What I do know is if Rove's choice for the GOP candidate fails, against all odds and a terrible incumbent, then the GOP is dead.
That is a good thing as the GOP today ( with limited exceptions) is a big spending , big government ," I don't mind being the less dominant party 'cause I still have power" party. Damned them all and let's just vote them all out of office. Mitt and Paul, You are dumbass , but you are my dumbasses. Get out there and debate the issues.
Posted by: Mark at September 16, 2012 03:50 PM (rqb8S)
Say what you will but Romney / Ryan are running one shitty campaing. They were planted by Karl Rove. The same genius that gave us GWB who thouroghly split the GOP. It's us Tea Partyers vs the Establishment. Why Paul Ryan jumped on this train I do not know. What I do know is if Rove's choice for the GOP candidate fails, against all odds and a terrible incumbent, then the GOP is dead.
That is a good thing as the GOP today ( with limited exceptions) is a big spending , big government ," I don't mind being the less dominant party 'cause I still have power" party. Damned them all and let's just vote them all out of office. Mitt and Paul, You are dumbass , but you are my dumbasses. Get out there and debate the issues.
Posted by: Mark at September 16, 2012 03:51 PM (rqb8S)
Co-workers are still Obamabots tho. I just tell them that there is nothing more I can say to convince them otherwise if the last 4 years of ineptitude, illegality, crimes, lies, misdemeanors, murder, race/class warfare, and abject stupidity hasn't gotten thru to them.
Posted by: trainer (formerly banned) at September 16, 2012 05:31 PM (1QEkm)
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