April 01, 2012
— Open Blogger Good morning, morons. I had it in my mind earlier in the week to write a comment or two about Saul Alinsky for this thread, but Ace beat me to it earlier in the week. The John Fund article Ace linked to is quite good. I did not know that Alinsky was mobbed up pretty good. But should anyone be surprised? After all, isn't the mob just another kind of community organizer?
Left-wing politics is, as we all know, not about "helping the little guy", but rather extracting money from people and groups that progressives do not like and giving it to those they do. Now somebody please tell me how there's a dime's worth of difference between that and the mob's various business and protection rackets.
Anyway, here are all thirteen of Alinsky'a rules for radicals, from the book:
1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.
2. Never go outside the experience of your people.
3. Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy.
4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.
5. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.
6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
7. A tactic that drags on too long is a drag.
8. Keep the pressure on.
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.
10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counter side.
12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize and polarize it.
And there they are.
Of course, one wonders what an old school commie agitator like Alinsky would have thought of the tactics of Andrew Breitbart and James O'Keefe?. Would he have smiled ruefully at the unexpected irony of his political enemies using his own tools against him?
Nah.
I'd bet he would've cried like a little girl, "Nuh uh, you can't do that, that's not fair."
You can easily find 'Rules for Radicals' as a torrent download. The book makes for interesting reading in a 'know your enemy' kind of way.
Tips for the Sunday morning book thread may be sent to me at my sooper sekrit e-mail address:
OregonMuse
and then the at sign
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then com.
So what has everybody been reading this week?
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Posted by: Popcorn at April 01, 2012 07:08 AM (OOehk)
Posted by: RightWingProf at April 01, 2012 07:08 AM (ndI4l)
Posted by: eman at April 01, 2012 07:10 AM (SkRNT)
Posted by: doom am I, full-ripe, dealing death to the worlds, engaged in devouring mankind. at April 01, 2012 07:12 AM (RbSOb)
Posted by: Vic at April 01, 2012 07:13 AM (YdQQY)
They need their own Gordon Freeman to clean house.
Posted by: Gran at April 01, 2012 07:15 AM (hl09R)
Posted by: Athena at April 01, 2012 07:15 AM (YRLgh)
Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2012 07:16 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: t-bird at April 01, 2012 07:18 AM (l/xhO)
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Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2012 07:19 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: t-bird at April 01, 2012 07:19 AM (l/xhO)
Posted by: RushBabe, Praying for Divine Intervention at April 01, 2012 07:20 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: kbdabear at April 01, 2012 07:22 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 01, 2012 07:24 AM (Ho2rs)
I thoroughly enjoyed it, and not just because Wyatt wrote it. Y'all need to go order a copy. He gets slightly more money from the paper version, but it's also available for downloading.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 07:27 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 01, 2012 07:28 AM (lce0m)
Posted by: Caiwyn at April 01, 2012 07:31 AM (9dlCF)
Posted by: Palerider at April 01, 2012 07:33 AM (cQZV0)
I'm reading the Magician King right now, after someone recommended the Magician. Both were very entertaining, and made me want to re-read The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe books.
Posted by: Matt in Maine at April 01, 2012 07:34 AM (gWLRb)
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at April 01, 2012 07:34 AM (KCvsd)
I am a masochist. I admit it. A very lefty friend keeps telling me that there are "other points of view out there" because she doesn't see how biased the MSM is. In the spirit of adventure, I got a Barbara Ehrenreich book on CD from the library and so I have been listening to "This Land is Their Land" in my car. From the very first page, it's been obvious that Ehrenreich is an idiot because she thinks there is a fixed quantity of wealth in the world. And the book just goes downhill from there. But I finally finished it and am wondering how on earth all the lefties manage to turn their brains off to swallow this tripe.
And I finally started reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" since it's available on Kindle. I remember trying to read it when I was in junior high or so but the footnotes drove me mad, constantly distracting me when they were at the bottom of the page. Since it's Kindle, I don't have to see the footnotes unless I touch them accidentally.
Posted by: Tonestaple at April 01, 2012 07:36 AM (b7/4F)
Posted by: Meremortal at April 01, 2012 07:38 AM (Usk3+)
"...9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
So....the threat of race riots is more terrifying than the race riots would actually be?
Posted by: wheatie at April 01, 2012 07:40 AM (dEMjC)
Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at April 01, 2012 07:40 AM (l57Cl)
And it's only $3, versus $18 for the paperback.
For all the bitching about Kindle prices on many books, and I am among those bitching, they do have good deals too.
Posted by: Retread at April 01, 2012 07:43 AM (joSBv)
You should discuss this with your lefty friend. If she's your typical cocooned lefty, she has no idea that such a criticism even exists.
If you value her friendship, you might even ask her for a book recommendation so you can discuss it -- of course with the proviso that she read one of yours.
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 01, 2012 07:43 AM (FjtwG)
Palerider, I enjoyed it, too! Her short stories are fun, as well. I bought Firehearted but haven't read it yet.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 07:47 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: ThroughtheRavenglass at April 01, 2012 07:48 AM (CI22O)
I really didn't remember it being such a bodice-ripper. Dagny Taggart, the little minx, is intent on shagging anything that moves under its own power. Poor Eddie Willers is too much of a nice guy to catch her eye, but I bet if he bought a motorcycle, got a tattoo or ten, and told her "no" once in a while he could reel her in. Might not be worth it, though; he'd have to put up with page after page of turgid prose about how *right* it is that a man announce his individuality by marking up his skin, after which she would break his heart to go haring after some new boy toy that just entered stage right.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 01, 2012 07:49 AM (g1Lui)
I suggested that one time, OregonMuse, but she teaches English and doesn't read outside of work stuff, at least not during the school year. She says her brain is too tired, and I believe her. Knowing her has been very eye-opening with respect to the public schools here. For example, there's not a single grammar textbook anywhere in the district!
But I will ask her to pick a book anyway, drawing the line at Howard Zinn. Maybe I can get her to read one of mine during summer vacation.
Posted by: Tonestaple at April 01, 2012 07:50 AM (b7/4F)
Rule Number 14: If you worship the Devil the way my boss did, the Devil is quite likely to make friends with you in a manner that you didn't quite anticipate, FOREVER.
Ouch! (x 10 to the hundred trillionth power) . . .
Posted by: Alinsky's Bleeding Squeekhole at April 01, 2012 07:53 AM (wMsKw)
Making my way through two books right now:
"Montana 1948" by Larry Watson - really well-written story from the perspective of a young boy in, NE Montana in, well, 1948.
"Sigma Seven," by Steven Gould, which was recommended in a thread on this very site.
Next up are the Rayland Givens stories. I may see if I can get through all of Elmore Leonard's stuff.
Posted by: Ninja Please at April 01, 2012 07:57 AM (8AV+0)
Posted by: vika ut sig at April 01, 2012 07:57 AM (sqVOl)
Ha! Yeah, my wife read AR via audiobook a few months back and she noticed the same thing. We had a running joke about who was going to be the next guy to take a poke at Dagny.
I tend to believe that Dagny Taggart was the woman Ayn Rand wanted to be: smart, thin, beautiful, sexy, and desired by all men. Rand herself was short, dumpy, and not really very attractive. Kinda crazy, too, by all accounts.
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 01, 2012 07:58 AM (FjtwG)
I told my lefty friend that SCOTUS had taken the unusual step of announcing early that the health care law is constitutional this morning (9-0 decision).
His hopes will be up for 5 seconds, and then the stinging slap of April 1 will occur to him.
Posted by: Jimma at April 01, 2012 07:59 AM (UpwlP)
Me, I've been reading "That Bear Ate My Pants!" by Tony James Slater. Adventures in an underfunded Ecuadorian animal preserve (and warnings about trying to weld without eye protection). Very funny. Also rereading "The Cuckoo's Egg" by Cliff Stoll -- hunting a computer hacker (with a chocolate chip cookie recipie). Also funny and not just for computer geeks either, he explains what goes on inside the computers very well.
Posted by: bad cat robot at April 01, 2012 07:59 AM (fwc5w)
FIFY.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 01, 2012 07:59 AM (IojUD)
Posted by: nickless at April 01, 2012 08:00 AM (MMC8r)
"Left-wing politics is, as we all know, not about "helping the little guy", but rather extracting money from people and groups that progressives do not like and giving it to THEMSELVES [not "those they do"]. "
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 01, 2012 08:01 AM (IojUD)
Posted by: Terrified Lurker at April 01, 2012 08:03 AM (iKZTY)
But don't overdo 'em, 'cause then they lose their power."
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 01, 2012 08:03 AM (IojUD)
Posted by: nickless at April 01, 2012 08:03 AM (MMC8r)
Welcome!! Thank you for getting your feet wet. Smart choice to do so in the book thread.
I'll be lookin' for your hash in the ONT tonight!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 08:07 AM (SsG4J)
5. you have nothing to fear from Barack Obama.
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Oh, and #6: Barack Obama is an honorable man.
and #7: Conservative populists are no more than pathetic hobbits.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 01, 2012 08:08 AM (IojUD)
I have lurked in the comments section of this fine establishment for several years now.
No need to fear. We don't bite. Well, only if you're teh baconz. BTW, if you've been lurking in a fine establishment, why did you come to Ace's place?
Posted by: RushBabe, Praying for Divine Intervention at April 01, 2012 08:08 AM (tQHzJ)
Re-reading Eric Garcia's Anonymous Rex. Hilarious private dick story but with a velociraptor as the main character. You see, dinosaurs didn't go extinct 65 million years ago, they just learned to blend in.
Thinking about picking up Tim Cockey's The Hearse You Came In On and reading it again. Hitchcock Sewell is a Baltimore undertaker who also solves murder mysteries when they present themselves. Very very funny and witty.
A couple of others I'd love to read again but just don't have time to, which I highly recommend: Night of the Avenging Blowfish: A Novel of Covert Operations, Love, and Luncheon Meat. Funny yet sad book by John Welter about Washington DC and love and loneliness.
And last but not least, a book called The Gargoyle, by Andrew Davidson. Odd book involving a horribly burned man whose nurse remembers when they met the first time, seven hundred years before in medieval Germany during war.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 01, 2012 08:10 AM (wMsKw)
Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2012 08:12 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2012 08:13 AM (Af3Wg)
I guess the OWS folks didn't read that one...
Speaking of which.. where are those guys? They claimed they would be back stronger and louder than ever come spring... lol..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 01, 2012 08:14 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2012 08:15 AM (Af3Wg)
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Yes I have. I got the ARC copy from Baen way back.
Posted by: Vic at April 01, 2012 08:17 AM (YdQQY)
The Unwritten 14th Rule: Lie, Lie, Lie
the latest bile from DKos:
[redacted], words I never thought I'd say, but this Republican member of Congress speaks for me:
As the only Republican Congressman at a rally for the Equal Rights
Amendment on Thursday, Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) gave women an
unexpected piece of advice: Give your money to Democrats.
"I think these are very precarious times for women, it seems. So many of
your rights are under assault," he told the crowd of mostly women.
"I'll tell you this: Contribute your money to people who speak out on
your behalf, because the other side -- my side -- has a lot of it. And
you need to send your own message. You need to remind people that you
vote, you matter, and that they can't succeed without your help." [Â…]
"This is a dogfight, it's a fistfight, and you have all the cards," he
said. "I can only tell you to get out there and use them. Tell the other
women, the other 51 percent of the population, to kick in a few of
their bucks. Make it matter, get out there, get on TV, advertise, talk
about this. The fact that you want [the ERA] is evidence that you
deserve it and you need it."
That Republican is right: it's time to make Republicans pay at the
ballot box for the war on women they are waging across the country.
At Daily Kos, we have endorsed three of the strongest Democratic women
running for Congress you will find anywhere: Elizabeth Warren in
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Please, click here to contribute $5 to their campaigns. We really do hold all the cards, and it's time we started playing them.
Keep fighting,
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Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 08:19 AM (WUa+U)
Posted by: kartoffel at April 01, 2012 08:25 AM (OgNv0)
Very well done, but I wish I had read it before I got so burned out/strung out on politics, and also before I had read the Breitbart/Coulter/Malkin œuvres....I really didn't need another reason to be furious with Washington.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 08:25 AM (SsG4J)
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So now you know why Kennedy votes the way he does.
Posted by: Vic at April 01, 2012 08:28 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: LIGuy at April 01, 2012 08:32 AM (+usC4)
You seriously did this? You're a bad, bad man.
And I can't stop laughing
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 01, 2012 08:34 AM (FjtwG)
He certainly seems to be less about law and more about what the fallout of any given decision might be. Scary.
Mind you, I have to admit I have never really followed the Supremes much at all. That Scalia and Thomas are rock solid Conservatives and that Ginsburg is liberal are only things I would have sworn to.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 08:37 AM (SsG4J)
Look forward to the book thread every Sunday. Good to see interest in keeping it up after Monty's retirement.
Thanks. (Longtime lurker, here. Might change my nic to "In the Belly of the Beast. I'm moving to just outside of DC in two weeks. Got transferred and the commute is a nightmare.)
Posted by: Kathy in MD at April 01, 2012 08:40 AM (q0Pow)
Posted by: CaveJohnson at April 01, 2012 08:41 AM (jbP91)
Speaking of which.. where are those guys? They claimed they would be back stronger and louder than ever come spring... lol..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 01, 2012 12:14 PM (UTq/I)
Looks like they're commemorating the 6 month anniversary of the Brooklyn Bridge march in which hundreds of dirty hippies were 'illegally' arrested, starting in just a few hours.
http://tinyurl.com/czyj5g3
I expect this to be almost as popular as the #OccupyUnionSquare event on St. Patty's Day, to mark the 6 month anniversary of the bowel movement's beginning.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 01, 2012 08:41 AM (KI/Ch)
Hello!!!! I really enjoyed Shock Wave, too.
And my sympathies on your commute!
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 08:44 AM (SsG4J)
Imagine having, in effect, a supersmartphone embedded into your brain from the time when you begin to speak as a baby, your mind as the 3D output, your thoughts as the input. Private chat with friends and family, public chat in groups and parties, banner ads feeding into you based on your likes, wants, and needs.
And generations have lived this way, with adults, even the president of the USA, all speaking the way today's teenagers do in high school and at shopping malls.
Dude.
In this setting, a love story is told, set in the final days of the USA.
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo goo ga joo at April 01, 2012 08:46 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 01, 2012 08:47 AM (2jQGY)
Posted by: microcosme at April 01, 2012 08:47 AM (zcC+d)
Summation of R4Rs:
Selfishly pursue your own desires with no mind to the consequences, negotiate in bad faith and lie, Lie, LIE!!!
Democrats have been doing this for decades.
Posted by: Minuteman at April 01, 2012 08:53 AM (rSbhz)
Posted by: Heorot at April 01, 2012 08:54 AM (Y06m6)
Back when Monty started the Sunday Book thread I stumbled on this for used books:
http://www.betterworldbooks.com/
I've found them reliable and quick to ship, and they sometimes have things that Amazon doesn't. They're a little greenie and have a 'save the earth' charge of a few cents that you can eliminate by unchecking a box before ordering.
Posted by: Retread at April 01, 2012 08:57 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: slatz at April 01, 2012 08:59 AM (+zhK2)
So....the threat of race riots is more terrifying than the race riots would actually be?
Posted by: wheatie at April 01, 2012 11:40 AM (dEMjC)
Uh, yes.
Escalate we much.
Posted by: Grand and Glorious Most High Reverand Al Sharpto, Vicar of the Church of Perpetual Skillets at April 01, 2012 09:00 AM (rSbhz)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 01, 2012 09:04 AM (mFxQX)
I always thought my explanation of how the cat and I share my bed 50/50 (he gets the middle half) was my own, but it's here word-for-word in a book I've never read before that was written before I was born, so someone must have planted the phrase in my brain as a kid. Probably me, in a time traveling incident that hasn't yet happened.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at April 01, 2012 09:05 AM (a5ljo)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 01, 2012 09:05 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 12:44 PM (SsG4J)
Thanks, Tammy. Got my first speed camera citation in the mail. Downtown Olney, Maryland. At 10:53 PM. Just trying to get home, so I could turn around and get back up at 6 AM. My next "request" for a transfer will be to the Pittsburgh, Pa. market. I can't wait to get away from everything that is "special" about Maryland.
Posted by: Kathy in MD at April 01, 2012 09:05 AM (q0Pow)
Posted by: badgerette at April 01, 2012 09:07 AM (Qx1/T)
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at April 01, 2012 09:09 AM (a5ljo)
Really? Seriously? No power or perceived power here at all within Alinsky's rules!
1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you
have. (Satan (formerly Lucifer) was defeated at the cross by Jesus Christ and
the Lord is my helper and I will not fear what man shall do unto me)
2. Never go outside the experience of your people. (The Lord worked with them
confirming his word with signs followingÂ…miracles)
3. Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. (In my name they shall cast out demons and I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it)
4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. (There is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus)
5. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. (Blessed are they which are persecuted
for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when
men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against
you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in
heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.)
6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy. (For he (Jesus Christ) must reign till he has put all enemies under his feet and he that believeth and is baptised shall be saved but he that believeth not shall be damned and the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.)
7. A tactic that drags on too long is a drag. (And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations and then the end shall come)
8. Keep the pressure on. (Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you; not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid)
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. (Psalm 91 and vengeance is mine I will repay says the Lord)
10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. (For we walk by faith and not by sight)
11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counter side. (Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you)
12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. (faith is the victory that overcomes the world and I (Jesus Christ) have overcome the world)
13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize and polarize it. (As he (Jesus Christ) is so are we in this world)
REALLY? SERIOUSLY? A MAN WHO HAD DEDICATED HIS BOOK TO LUCIFER WHO BECAME AND IS KNOWN AS SATAN? “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.” “For the weapons of our warfare are not carnel but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds.”
Posted by: Greg at April 01, 2012 09:10 AM (LzjbD)
Just picked up an Elmore Lenoard from the used book store, "The Hunted". They tend to start out slow, but they do deliver. I always have him as my fallback author.
Posted by: Paladin at April 01, 2012 09:10 AM (CjJwF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 01, 2012 01:05 PM (niZvt)
Be nice if we had a leader or spokesman of some sort.
Posted by: USS Diversity at April 01, 2012 09:11 AM (vpe0k)
Writing down all the great suggestions. Will definitely order Wyatt's
"Only Son."
I've been burning my way through the Elvis Cole/Joe Pike series by Robert Crais (in no particular order: last week I read Stalking the Angel, The Last Detective, Sunset Express and The Watchman), but now I'm in a fantasy/sci-fi mood so I picked up three books at the library on Friday with no foreknowledge other than attractive cover/title: The Shroud Codex by Jerome Corsi, Busy Monsters by William Giraldi, and Iago by David Snodin, some kind of re-imagining of Othello from the point of view of the Chief Inquisitor of Venice. If anyone is familiar with these titles, input is welcome.
I've also been working my way through "Oscar et la dame rose," a YA French novel, hoping to jumpstart my French back into some kind of proficiency. Sometimes I have to read a sentence a few times to get the gist of it because I'm translating each word and then have to re-combine for content. It has a lot of collequialisms, which makes the translation more difficult, but is probably more helpful for actual conversation.
Posted by: Gem at April 01, 2012 09:12 AM (zw+pb)
Posted by: kartoffel at April 01, 2012 09:13 AM (OgNv0)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 01, 2012 09:14 AM (A9hpr)
Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2012 09:14 AM (CMM9V)
If you want to see how effective it can be, look at the homosexual activist debate and how little anyone actually tried to convince anyone of anything, yet managed to pull the majority of younger folks to their side.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 01, 2012 09:14 AM (r4wIV)
Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2012 09:16 AM (CMM9V)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 01, 2012 09:19 AM (4tnQK)
Wow. Greg is completely insane. I wonder if the FBI should be notified about this guy.
Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2012 01:16 PM (CMM9V)
Greg cracked after it became obvious to him that Barack Obama is stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: YIKE! at April 01, 2012 09:20 AM (Fx8df)
Posted by: Darles Chickens at April 01, 2012 09:21 AM (/wURB)
Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2012 09:21 AM (CMM9V)
I couldn't agree more. I used to live in southcentral PA and experienced the horror that is Marylanders' driving habits on many occasions. As far as they're concerned, they are the only ones on the road.
Posted by: Gran at April 01, 2012 09:21 AM (hl09R)
Posted by: ManeiNeko at April 01, 2012 09:21 AM (TiE76)
Posted by: blip at April 01, 2012 09:21 AM (JzVFc)
Posted by: Paladin at April 01, 2012 09:22 AM (CjJwF)
Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2012 09:22 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2012 09:23 AM (SpqwD)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 01, 2012 09:23 AM (IhUxK)
Posted by: blip at April 01, 2012 09:23 AM (JzVFc)
Gem, try LibraryThing.com. A lifetime membership is just $25 and you can keep track of all of your books there. I set up a special "collection" for the Sunday Book Thread recommendations so I know what the Moron Horde recommends. I'll never ever get through everything, but I won't lose track of them either.
Posted by: Tonestaple at April 01, 2012 09:23 AM (b7/4F)
Imagine connoting "Peace be with you" and "Keep the pressure on" as being the SAME.
Do people like that know they're completely nuts or do they realize that the upset they feel when their idol is found to be less than divine is over the top?
Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2012 09:24 AM (CMM9V)
Great advice for your kids, Dagny. When my son learned to drive, his Dad took him down to drive 495 within a week of getting his permit....I thought his Dad was nuts, but it turned out OK, and he's been driving for three years without incident. We stressed DEFENSIVE driving from day one. Now he's around all the retirees in Phoenix, and he just laughs and laughs.
Posted by: Kathy in MD at April 01, 2012 09:24 AM (q0Pow)
Posted by: Terrified Lurker at April 01, 2012 09:24 AM (iKZTY)
Posted by: Paladin at April 01, 2012 01:22 PM (CjJwF)
Burgers?...can't help.
Pizzeria Blanco. Best Pizza in the West.
Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2012 09:25 AM (SpqwD)
Posted by: Brendan at April 01, 2012 09:25 AM (2jQGY)
LMS. I need to re-read Doorways. I wasn't able to just sit and read it through, and I got lost quite a bit.
Kathy, Pittsburgh is a pretty awesome place if you can handle the winters.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 09:25 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 01, 2012 09:27 AM (IhUxK)
IIRC, that was my first Zelazny way back when. I highly, highly recommend his 'Lord of Light.' It manages to be a SF story, mythology, super-hero adventure, and more all at once. Read it once and then read it again a year later. You'll notice a bunch of stuff that you didn't the first time.
Avoid the audio version out there. The one I found was from Library For The blind, which depends a lot on volunteer readers. The one they put on 'Lord of Light' wasn't the worst I ever heard but her voice was a lot like Sister Mary Elephant from Cheech & Chong.
Posted by: epobirs at April 01, 2012 09:28 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 01, 2012 09:28 AM (I/q5L)
Posted by: Anson Mitchell at April 01, 2012 09:28 AM (IhUxK)
Much different than any standard history of the time. Told from a somewhat isolationist point of view. Best line so far - "Western civilization has consecrated itself to making the world safe for Stalin."
Posted by: Skookumchuk at April 01, 2012 09:29 AM (btzPD)
Posted by: LIGuy at April 01, 2012 09:30 AM (+usC4)
Posted by: Release. The. Hounds.. at April 01, 2012 09:30 AM (JVKdu)
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Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2012 09:34 AM (CMM9V)
His book and his personal history indicate otherwise. The man didn't have an honorable bone in his body, and advocated the most underhanded, cowardly means to the end that was all he cared about.
Posted by: kartoffel at April 01, 2012 09:35 AM (OgNv0)
"Carthage Must be Destroyed" by Richard Miles. Not much is known of Carthagenian history and what there is was mainly written by the Romans who were not particularly buddies with their across the Mediterranian rivals. Miles wades through the morass to include recent archeological research and brings us from Carthage's founding by the Phoenicians to its ultimate destruction by Rome.
A great story for history buffs of a civilization known mainly for its demise.
Posted by: Libra at April 01, 2012 09:36 AM (kd8U8)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 09:36 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 09:36 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Greg at April 01, 2012 09:36 AM (LzjbD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 09:38 AM (Z9EHQ)
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Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2012 09:42 AM (R5yLq)
Been working all hour on the formula for how much you pay over your lifetime in taxes and fees if you are aborted and have come up with this
3+5x280-35x0=
Posted by: Jimma at April 01, 2012 09:43 AM (UpwlP)
But now I'm reading Marley and Me: a book about life and love with the world's worst dog.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 09:43 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: blip at April 01, 2012 09:44 AM (JzVFc)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 09:44 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Aaron at April 01, 2012 09:44 AM (Tlix5)
All that has a good deal more to do with lack of confidence in our own ideas and lack of energy on our part, than some dead radical Obama happened to idolize.
Yep. I would change "20 years" to "50 years", but other than that, Yep.
Posted by: mama winger at April 01, 2012 09:45 AM (P6QsQ)
Greg, very interesting.
And you're right that evil will not prevail...in the end.
But you know what the economist Keynes said?
Keynes said, "In the long run, we're all dead."
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 09:45 AM (WUa+U)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2012 09:45 AM (R5yLq)
Posted by: Jean at April 01, 2012 09:46 AM (duqON)
On the other side of the equasion, I've calculated that each abortion costs society approximately one million dollars in lost revenue, when using the average amount people pay in taxes during their life.
I've transmitted the information to the president.
Posted by: Jimma at April 01, 2012 09:46 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 09:47 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2012 09:48 AM (R5yLq)
I want to defeat these Leftist demons in MY lifetime.
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 01:47 PM (WUa+U)
angels to some....demons to others...just like those gosh-darned Cenobites!
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 09:49 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 09:50 AM (Z9EHQ)
What we lack, and what the other side has in abundance, is dedication.
As in full-time dedication. These people have made it their careers to bring down our republic. We don't do that.
We, mainly, only pay attention around election time. The Left is working on defeating us 24/7/365.
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 09:50 AM (WUa+U)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 09:52 AM (PWwbk)
With all those exclamation points, my visual was a couple of chapters ahead of yours, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Retread at April 01, 2012 09:52 AM (joSBv)
Educational institutions that receive fed funding for example, the fact that more and more men can't get jobs in schools out of the simple fact they might be a child molester, outcomes in divorces weighing heavily in favor of women.
Of course, the current set of elected 'conservatives' aren't going to do shit to hold them to their own standards.
Posted by: Ring at April 01, 2012 09:53 AM (DZvt1)
Love this.
Posted by: mama winger at April 01, 2012 09:53 AM (P6QsQ)
What we lack, and what the other side has in abundance, is dedication.
Nail, meet head. Big difference between wanting to be left the hell alone (conservative) and wanting to never leave well enough alone (progressive)...I cannot refer to them as liberal, though i'm sloppy about that.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 09:54 AM (PWwbk)
Usually just his bare nekkid fist will do, but I have fond memories of one glorious evening when a bass was called into action in my defense. Only one time, though, in all these years, sigh.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 09:55 AM (SsG4J)
1. If you have a problem with the truth, the problem is you.
2. In light of that, stay on the side of the truth, whatever it is.
3. Since the truth is on your side, use it like a weapon.
4. Mercy is for those who believe their good intentions will be repaid out of reciprocal decency by the other side in case they lose.
5. If you believe the other side has any mercy or decency, I have some land in the Everglades to sell you.
6. It's been said that no plan survives contact with the enemy. Simple plans actually do, it's hard to screw up "Improvise" or "Get 'Em".
7. The best liars manipulate the heart. Analyze everything.
8. Never automatically attribute to ignorance or bad luck that which can be attributed to malice, nor attribute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance or bad luck. Sometimes it's all of the above.
9. Don't be afraid to see what you see. -Ronald Reagan
10. The best defense is a good offense. Do Unto Others.
11. It is better to live a day as a lion than a thousand years as a sheep. Even moderation must be used in moderation, as there are things worth dying for.
12. Might does make right. If you don't stand up for the rights you afford yourself, you are merely prey for the first person that does not share your concept of inalienable human rights. Ask any nerd that got bullied.
13. An open mind is like a fortress with its drawbridge lowered and its gates unbarred.
14. Anybody who claims to have all of the answers is a liar.
15. Fair is a dirty four letter F-word. Fight to win.
16. Entropy is the natural state of the universe. Harness it in your methods, and your enemy will crumble even as you destroy him.
17. Anything can be destroyed by dropping it from a great enough height. Elevating a dangerous enemy that can be easily knocked down has advantages.
18. There are two ways to operate a society. Subordinate ability to need, and need will grow until it overwhelms ability. Subordinate need to ability, and ability will grow until all needs are met.
19. Any large task may be conquered by making it small enough. I once read about an English general that destroyed an occupied enemy castle that took 70 years to build by promising the local peasants an ounce of silver for every brick of it they brought him. It fell in a day.
20. The only thing turning the other cheek to mindless aggression gets you are two bloody cheeks and someone who believes he can hit you with impunity.
21. Payback is a bitch. Retribution is a 350 pound bipolar who thinks you ate the last of the ice cream. Apply vengeance as appropriate to the situation.
Posted by: Cato at April 01, 2012 09:55 AM (54b2Y)
I'm thinking about buying a copy of the Koran, and reading it aloud with an affectated lisp on the train into work each morning.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 01:43 PM (PWwbk)
Now that's some some funny shit, right there!
Posted by: ErikW at April 01, 2012 09:55 AM (O+OKu)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2012 09:56 AM (R5yLq)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 09:56 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 09:57 AM (PWwbk)
For instance, for the past two weeks non-stop, segments of the Left have been protesting, writing letters to editors, calling into talk shows, getting on television to advance their agenda to disarm American citizens and to pass more stupid thought crime laws.
The corpse of Treyvon Martin is their excuse to do these things right now.
Next week they'll find another treyvon. And so on.
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 09:58 AM (WUa+U)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2012 09:58 AM (R5yLq)
Well, my theory is also that we all WORK full time and don't have near the time to devote to this sort of thing. That's why I have also started trying to push for folks here to get involved in some small way, online. Twitter, etc.
And look, I can't help it with yankee and my exclamation points. Y'all are just lucky Robert and bean and Bers and jc and DC ain't here. Them Graveyard Shift boyz are like my own personal heroin.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 09:59 AM (SsG4J)
Usually just his bare nekkid fist will do, but I have fond memories of one glorious evening when a bass was called into action...
I thought it was a Snapper.
Posted by: Zombie John Bonham at April 01, 2012 09:59 AM (SpqwD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 09:59 AM (Z9EHQ)
>>>I cannot refer to them as liberal
Good. A liberal from 200 years ago would be agitating for the overthrow of this administration and their permanent deportation from the country, or worse.
Posted by: kartoffel at April 01, 2012 10:00 AM (OgNv0)
Big difference between wanting to be left the hell alone (conservative) and wanting to never leave well enough alone (progressive).
The funny part is that they call us knee-jerk reactionaries because we resist or complain about constantly imposing on us their radical leftist agenda.
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 10:01 AM (WUa+U)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2012 10:01 AM (R5yLq)
Brendan @116 -
Try McCullogh's series about the fall of the Republic. It starts with Marius, then runs through Sulla, Pompey and Caesar - ending with the triumph of Augustus. 'First Man in Rome' is followed by 'The Grass Crown' and 'Fortune's Favorites'. There's another three books, but if you are still interested after these you'll have no trouble finding them.
Warning: McCullough is in love with the depth of her research. After you've read a description of the entryway into the forum for the umpteeumpth time you just start skipping the longer descriptive passages. Mind you, the info is great and interesting but she oh too frequently stops the action for 5 or 6 pages of description, geneology, or background.
Posted by: Old Bob at April 01, 2012 10:02 AM (3iqNd)
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 01, 2012 10:03 AM (niZvt)
Very much enjoyed Breitbart's last one. I am behind on my Steyn.
Started reading the Flashman series by Frazer, and have been chuckling mightily.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 10:03 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:03 AM (Z9EHQ)
Very much enjoyed Breitbart's last one. I am behind on my Steyn.
Started reading the Flashman series by Frazer, and have been chuckling mightily.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 02:03 PM (SsG4J)
How many books did Breitbart write? I'm thinking of going on a Mark Steyn bender here, but want to get the big B's books too....
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:04 AM (PWwbk)
7. The best liars manipulate the heart. Analyze everything.
One trick I use in appropriate circumstances is to prepend to every statement by the other side, "He wants me to believe ..."
It really helps (me at least) to maintain emotional distance and to remain analytical.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 01, 2012 10:04 AM (BIzKS)
Yes.
And that's the brilliance of the Left!
With our help and generosity, the Left has insidiously created a growing citizen army of welfare careerists who are always at the ready to "fight" for more free stuff while the rest are busy in our daily grinds making a paycheck, which supports the Left's agenda.
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 10:05 AM (WUa+U)
Hey, Miss Tammy,
No, my French reading skillz have sadly diminished! But I'm trying.
My daughter will be living in London for part of the year next year and when we're there visiting I hope we can get across the channel for a few days. Thanks again for reminding me about "Only Son."
And thanks, Tonestaple! That's a good idea - I have a hard time keeping track of all my hand-scribbled lists.
My favorite book (or the one that made a lasting impression on me, anyway) about Roman society is "A History of Private Life - From Pagan Rome to Byzantium." The English version was edited by Paul Veyne with translations by Arthur Goldhammer. A fascinating look at the impact of societal change on individual lives, with a wealth of illustrations and contemporary writings.
Posted by: Gem at April 01, 2012 10:05 AM (zw+pb)
Not only are we too busy and preoccupied to counter the Left's dedication to protest and push their radical agenda, we actually funding it!
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 10:06 AM (WUa+U)
Sorry - how do you do html codes here now? Or are they working again?
Posted by: Gem at April 01, 2012 10:06 AM (zw+pb)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 01, 2012 10:06 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2012 01:25 PM (SpqwD)
Looks interesting. I'll give it a shot. I'm on the west side of town. My dad keeps trying to feed me every 4 hours, but I just want a medium rare burger, with fresh ground beef. That and a nice Cold Micro...no fries.
Posted by: Paladin at April 01, 2012 10:07 AM (CjJwF)
Sadly, when it comes to links, this is the land that time forgot.
Posted by: mama winger at April 01, 2012 10:08 AM (P6QsQ)
Not only are we too busy and preoccupied to counter the Left's dedication to protest and push their radical agenda, we actually funding it!
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 02:06 PM (WUa+U)
The most, and I mean The. Most. Infuriating thing about the left is their emotional/intellectual caving-in and wanting to be Part Of The Group Of Good Guys that slants their perception. Facts, reasoning, logic be damned. Self-contained cult behavior. Sickening.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:09 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 01, 2012 02:06 PM (Ec6wH)
That sounds like an 'easter egg' the programmers are known for.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:10 AM (PWwbk)
To me, this is one of the biggest differences between male and female authors, and indeed, male and females, period.
My reading tatstes skew slightly masculine, but I freely admit that I do I like what would be considered long descriptions of things. As much as I like most adventure/detective type stories, I also find them kind of choppy and jumpy.
I think Andrew just write two, the other one being about Hollywood. Steyn has several, all amazing, but I am very biased. I'd have his babies.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 10:10 AM (SsG4J)
Not only do we fund the careers of the Left's perpetual protesters, the Left is successful at Paul Ryan's modest budget cuts seem radical.
Holy shit.
Posted by: soothie at April 01, 2012 10:10 AM (WUa+U)
I'm curious if there is any independent confirmation of this. It really seems like the typical self-aggrandizing bullshit stories that the commie rat bastards are notorious for. I mean really, hanging with Frank Nitti?
Posted by: toby928© at April 01, 2012 10:11 AM (GTbGH)
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http://youtu.be/IhJQp-q1Y1s
Posted by: Anachronda at April 01, 2012 10:11 AM (g1Lui)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:12 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:12 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:13 AM (Z9EHQ)
You have to go with triple spacing for a paragraph break.
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 10:13 AM (SsG4J)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:13 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: Anachronda at April 01, 2012 02:11 PM (g1Lui)
Posted by: Tammy al Thor at April 01, 2012 10:14 AM (SsG4J)
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Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 01:49 PM (PWwbk)
I was using them to back up my system until they pulled their advertising from Rush Limbaugh's show. To Hell with them.
Wait... what?
Posted by: Gran at April 01, 2012 10:17 AM (hl09R)
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at April 01, 2012 10:17 AM (a5ljo)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2012 10:18 AM (R5yLq)
pins and needles, folks.....
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:21 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2012 10:23 AM (ZOlM3)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:24 AM (Z9EHQ)
we have found that Trayvon had a toothache cause from too many skittles and drinking ice tea. which cause him to go looking around for something to ease his pain as He had no insurance available to Him with the tax monies being spent on Bush's war instead of health care for the most vulnerable among us.
Zimmerman advocated for gun ownership options to be held by every person , but a person such as Trayvon a citizen forgotten as many other before Him had no options.
This is why we need Obamacare. For children that look like Obama's children.
Posted by: willow at April 01, 2012 10:24 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:26 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:28 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:30 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:32 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:34 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: willow at April 01, 2012 10:34 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Tonestaple at April 01, 2012 10:36 AM (b7/4F)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:37 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: willow at April 01, 2012 10:38 AM (TomZ9)
Posted by: Red in Maine at April 01, 2012 10:38 AM (22dUg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:38 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tonestaple at April 01, 2012 02:36 PM (b7/4F)
and the Dadaist Prize is: (using my Nathan Explosion Metalocalyse Voice of Doom):
NOTHING!!!!
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:39 AM (PWwbk)
Now, about Dagny Taggart: she does three different guys, right? And the course of the narrative to include that is at least several years. Really, that's not up to AoS standards, or even those of your college-age daughter, sorry to bring that up.
Rand knew she was writing pornography, both in AS and Fountainhead. There is a depiction of a.female.orgasm (known in these parts as "mythical") in a 1950's book. Search in vain, o reader, and I know you have, for its like in the big-books of its era.
But she vuss Ayn Rand after all, it vussnote plech-a-reezm. It was an entirely new kind of pornography -- a pornography of The Mind! -- such as had never been seen before in all of literature. Just ask her.
Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2012 10:40 AM (ZOlM3)
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:40 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: Tonestaple at April 01, 2012 10:40 AM (b7/4F)
Posted by: yankeefifth at April 01, 2012 10:41 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tonestaple at April 01, 2012 10:41 AM (b7/4F)
Kingston Fucking Trio? I'd rather claw my eyes out with a broken bottle than be seen at one of those. Pass.
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:41 AM (PWwbk)
129. Alinsky looked opon the people he worked against as detestable. So naturaly, he had no problem playing dirty, would you? The man went to the wretched of the Earth and devised ways they could attain power. He took his life into his hands numerous times in order to accomplish this.
He made made many more enemies than friends in his travels. Very powerful enemies. I can't stand heathen communists, and Alinsky definatly was one. But I can respect my advisary when they have earned it.
Like Obama, Alinsky is a key player in the eventual neutering of the left. His tactics were short sighted and ultimatly counter productive.
Posted by: Release. The. Hounds.. at April 01, 2012 10:45 AM (dlZka)
There's still the Weavers, and Peter Paul and Your Sister. Little Phil Ochs joke there, for you OSU fans.
Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2012 10:46 AM (ZOlM3)
There's still the Weavers, and Peter Paul and Your Sister. Little Phil Ochs joke there, for you OSU fans.
Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2012 02:46 PM (ZOlM3)
What's your sister wearing? Just wondering....
Posted by: model_1066 at April 01, 2012 10:48 AM (PWwbk)
Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2012 10:55 AM (ZOlM3)
NOT primarily a student hangout, Had several meals there, and never a bad one. Son is a sophomore at ASU, so we get out there several times a year.
Posted by: Kathy in MD at April 01, 2012 11:01 AM (q0Pow)
It is free from Amazon if you have a Kindle or the Kindle for PC application. The hardcover is $103.00
Posted by: crosspatch at April 01, 2012 11:35 AM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: veekapoo at April 01, 2012 11:39 AM (sqVOl)
Apparently, it's the latest in a series (although it stands alone for entertainment purposes), and I may check out the others. For the 2nd Amendment Morons (and at a minimal level, aren't we all?), Hunter's definitely a gun nut from the interviews I've heard as well as his writing.
Posted by: logprof at April 01, 2012 11:49 AM (ykSKg)
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Posted by: Kathy in MD at April 01, 2012 03:01 PM (q0Pow)
Been to the one by the Stadium in Glendale. That's where my folks live. Way too high brow for them...I've tried. Right now I just need an escape for a couple of hours. I like Tailgaters on Bell by 59th. But the food is typical bar-food...just OK. What I'm looking for is a place like "Rocky's" when I lived in San Diego, on Ingram & La Playa, in Crown Point. GREAT Burger! The menu is 1/2 lbs, 1/3 lbs & fries...that's it. Oh yea Cheese if you want. But it is the best in the city, maybe even the whole state.
Posted by: Paladin at April 01, 2012 12:19 PM (CjJwF)
Posted by: Paladin at April 01, 2012 12:30 PM (CjJwF)
"4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules."
Like, if everything is "for the children," why are they so big on abortion?
Posted by: RushBabe, Praying for Divine Intervention at April 01, 2012 01:05 PM (tQHzJ)
Crap. The enemy KNOWS I have power if he drives by my house at night. You can see the lights from the street.
Posted by: Kevin at April 01, 2012 02:43 PM (3o64G)
If the monster manages to stagger on, those of us in favor of freedom should take one out of the community organizer playbook: jam the system.
I use hospitals about twice every 10 years to have stitches removed or some such. Not anymore. I'm going to be a twice a month user and a twice a week appointment setter. I'm going to grab hold of every free thing I can and drain, drain, drain the system of resources. And I suggest all of you who don't long to be serfs do so as well.
If millions of us suck up as many resources as fast as possible, we can break the socialized health system and force it into insolvency. Make people wait weeks, months, for things they used to get within days and they'll soon tire of the idea.
Target health facilities, particularly pediatrics and facilities for the elderly in Progressive areas for the greatest abuse. Make their children and their elderly parents pay the price for their greed and power-hunger, and it'll be very easy to get most of them to turn en masse on the system they created.
The zealots won't turn, but then the zealots can look into the mass graves of their ideological birthright and say, "But this time, it'll be different."
(Oh, don't harm their children? They don't give a damn whether or not their Statism hurts people's children - nothing hurts children like Statism. You reap what you sow. They could choose to start non-profits to do the things they want done and we would all be free to live in brotherhood, but no: they went right for the truncheon and the gun with a sparkle in their eyes.)
Poison the well, crap the river. The faster and more dramatically we bring the whole thing down, the better for everyone.
Tactics like this have been used by Progressives for decades. Time to go toe-to-toe. Force-feed 'em what they've been serving and see how they like the taste.
Posted by: Amos at April 01, 2012 06:11 PM (vqiJQ)
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