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June 30, 2012

Super Derecho Rips Eastern US
— Ace

A derecho. I didn't even know that was a thing.

It's kind of like a circular storm except it's not circular -- it's a long (240 miles+) front of straight-line wind and rain.

There are two known deaths:

One of the multiple trees that crashed into homes in Springfield, Va., killed a 90-year-old woman as she was sleeping in her bed, according to the Associated Press.
A few hours earlier, a falling tree outside of North Middletown, Ky., (located east-northeast of Lexington) killed a man who was attempting to clear some tree limbs off a road.

The storm has left millions without power, on one of the hottest days of the year.

UPDATE [DiT]: Some pretty freaky pics of the storm and damage here, including this one,

link via ChrisP over at H2

Posted by: Ace at 09:35 AM | Comments (468)
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1 My wife and I had the pleasure of getting woken up by it and took shelter in the basement. Gusts of 80+ mph winds, a lot of rain and lightning. Thankfully, we still have power and the only damage was to the trees in the woods behind the house.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2012 09:56 AM (TdKxJ)

2 Looks like it's headed my way!

Posted by: EC at June 30, 2012 09:57 AM (R15UB)

3 Baltimore:
The VIA household sets in an electrical oasis of about 4 blocks, surrounded by lack of power, and downed trees.

Driving through town to locate a gas station with power was problematic.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 30, 2012 09:59 AM (DVMey)

4 It's lovely here in Malta, though. I'm having a great time.

Posted by: The Dread Justice Roberts at June 30, 2012 09:59 AM (jPxSq)

5 ...utility union threatens strike...

damn. As if Obama will fire and rehire, even if he could count the "new, created and saved" jobs...

Posted by: maverick muse at June 30, 2012 10:00 AM (BAnPT)

6 I am having a great time at Disney World.

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 30, 2012 10:03 AM (++kZl)

7 Remember the August deaths of the seniors in France during "national holiday"?

US utility unions strike now?

Imagine any US record breaking temperature region, but specifically the US muggy East Coast without power in the heat wave.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 30, 2012 10:03 AM (BAnPT)

8 I am praying the heat wave is heralding the coming of SMOD.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 30, 2012 10:04 AM (++kZl)

9 No storm here, just hotter than Kate Upton making out with Kate Holmes. .

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 10:05 AM (YdQQY)

10 Could four Supreme Court Justices rescind a passport? Just spitballin' here.

Posted by: Clarence Thomas at June 30, 2012 10:05 AM (IoNBC)

11 That trampoline wrapped around a power line is something you don't see everyday.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:06 AM (piMMO)

12 #11: Really? I'd call that "Tuesday."

Posted by: NR Pax at June 30, 2012 10:07 AM (TdKxJ)

13 It's not a storm. It's a tax.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:07 AM (ejmiE)

14 PEPCO says it'll be 7 days to fully restore power to MD suburbs of DC. 2.5 million w/o power in Virginia 1 million in Ohio 500k in West Virginia. 1 million plus in Maryland

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 10:07 AM (ZPrif)

15 Derecho? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 30, 2012 10:07 AM (RY/Ag)

16 For anyone without power, remember the old-fashioned method of cooling off: water.

Drink plenty of it and draw a tub full and sit in it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:07 AM (piMMO)

...."A Deadly Land Hurricane"

There have been some other strange circular formations like this....happening out west too.

The 'man-caused-global-warming' folks will probably jump on it, as further 'proof' that we are causing this stuff.

Personally....I think that we really have no idea what sort of crazy weather patterns have gone on in the past.

The core samples that have been taken, all along the east coast....indicate that there have been some hellacious storms in the past....worse than we've seen in our lifetimes.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 10:08 AM (jPxSq)

18 BTW OT a little bit but are you guys feeling like I am every time you read some idiot writer say "the Roberts ruling was really a win for conservatives"...like skull dragging them across your kitchen and shoving their head in the oven?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 30, 2012 10:08 AM (++kZl)

19 I never heard of a land hurricane or a derecho. We called them micro-bursts, except they ain't micro either.

Severe thunderstorms with hail is what they normally say.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 10:08 AM (YdQQY)

20 This thing took out power here yesterday. And all over the area too. When it came through it was weird looking system. A big circular mass and then at the bottom a long tail at the bottom of it. We actually caught the thinnest section of it between the tail in the large storm mass and still it knocked out power from 3:30 to midnight and a few other times through the night until about 9:00 today.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2012 10:08 AM (GULKT)

21 Never heard of a Derecho? I've heard of super wedgies, but never Derecho's?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 30, 2012 10:09 AM (j1gX1)

22 If they'd just opened the door when the land hurricane said "Candygram", it would have equalized the pressure and their houses would have been OK.

Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at June 30, 2012 10:09 AM (219RQ)

The thing hit 81 mph 20 miles south of me in Tuckerton as it swept out to sea.

Interesting day.

Posted by: trainer at June 30, 2012 10:09 AM (5H+0Q)

24 MORE BLOOD SACRIFICES ,PROLES !

Posted by: Sun God Barack - Moon Goddess Michelle at June 30, 2012 10:09 AM (zsgo8)

25 There have been some other strange circular formations like this....happening out west too.
The 'man-caused-global-warming' folks will probably jump on it, as further 'proof' that we are causing this stuff.

The CSM has already done that with the heat wave. See the links from the news this morning.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 10:09 AM (YdQQY)

26 Oh great thunder storms tomorrow here in Nj/NY

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 30, 2012 10:10 AM (j1gX1)

27 Check the additional pics at their link. It takes a second for them to pop up:

http://bit.ly/OMR0tW

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:10 AM (piMMO)

28 9 No storm here, just hotter than Kate Upton making out with Kate Holmes. .

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 02:05 PM (YdQQY)

Thank You.

Posted by: trailortrash at June 30, 2012 10:11 AM (xllDV)

29 How do you tax a dercho?

Posted by: Chairman SCOAMF at June 30, 2012 10:11 AM (UOM48)

30 How is that a derecho and not just a squall line?

We have another name for those in my part of the country: severe thunderstorms.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 30, 2012 10:11 AM (Iyg03)

31 Actually flying home last night we did hit pretty bad turbulence over the virginia/dc/maryland area

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 30, 2012 10:11 AM (j1gX1)

32 Well it looks like we have peaked for today. Temps are actually dropping now. Peaked at 106.6Â° at 13:50.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 10:12 AM (YdQQY)

33 The photos of the storm clouds over Chicago are incredible.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:12 AM (piMMO)

34 It also dropped the temperature over 20 degrees in about a half hour here.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2012 10:12 AM (GULKT)

35 We have another name for those in my part of the country: severe thunderstorms.

****

I live in Florida. I know thunderstorms. This is basically like a giant wind tsunami.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:13 AM (piMMO)

36 How do you tax a dercho? Posted by: Chairman SCOAMF at June 30, 2012 02:11 PM (UOM4

If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. ~Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 30, 2012 10:13 AM (j1gX1)

37 I thought a Super Derecho was a hand job. Anyway, that's what I call 'em.

Posted by: Derecho means right (the direction) in Messican at June 30, 2012 10:14 AM (mxnUd)

38 You who Roberts's complete ass-wiping of the Constitution benefits? Mitt Romney.

Posted by: an old meme at June 30, 2012 10:14 AM (QTHTd)

39 32 Actually flying home last night we did hit pretty bad turbulence over the virginia/dc/maryland area

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 30, 2012 02:11 PM (j1gX1

We hit the worst turbulence I've ever experienced last year flying into Charlotte to connect with our flight to Vegas. The plane literally plummeted belly down toward the trees on final approach. The pilot aimed the nose into the air and we were thrown against our seats. He never said a word, be we circled the airport in silence for 45 minutes before finally landing.

When we got off the plane, a friend and I ran to the ladies room before running to catch our flight, and a woman from our plane was vomiting.

Nature's a bitch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:15 AM (UOM48)

40 Land Hurricane?

NO ONE calls them that you stupid idiots of the Media.

Plus they had to throw in a spanish term Derecho to give it some pizzazz?

Derecho means LEFT so that means that we should start calling the Media the Derecho Media? Hey I'm all for it.

Good fricking grief. They twist EVERYTHING around their inaccurate world view.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 30, 2012 10:15 AM (CP+yl)

Well Derecho is a new word the cool kids invented to prove they are the cool kids. Soon, we will all be using it.

Release the vuvuzelas!

By the way, that there derecho messed up my morning, because we were helping a friend move, and then we were going to breakfast, and all the breakfast places were packed because parts of the city are out of power.

It was turrible!

The crowding, not the derecho. That was just interesting loud weather. Of course, I didn't lose power at my house. None of my trees got blowed down, like some of my neighbors.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at June 30, 2012 10:17 AM (sJTmU)

42 It's hotter than hell here today. Now they're saying the heat index will be around 119 today and tomorrow.

Ugh. I just ran out for an errand, and now I've got to go out again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:17 AM (UOM48)

43 As usual the weather here in the SF Bay area is perfect.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:18 AM (ejmiE)

44 Drove home thru trash dirt devils and little air burst up here in Germantown MD.

Some family had a horror-show at an NJ park. Tree onto tent at state park. 2 young boys dead.

Watching trees pushed around like grass is impressive til they start snapping off.

Posted by: DaveA at June 30, 2012 10:19 AM (XG53A)

28Check the additional pics at their link. It takes a second for them to pop up:

http://bit.ly/OMR0tW

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Yup.

I've seen Wall Clouds like that....lot's of times.

We get those a lot out here.

And the damages look similar too.

Not trying to minimize the misery that people are suffering right now, though.

People here refer to these things as "Gust-nadoes".

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 10:19 AM (jPxSq)

46 Fuck John Roberts. That mutherfucker is dead to me. He is an anathema. I would that the congress turn their backs to him at the next SOTU. I will shun him and not speak his name, as if it were Voldemort. Piece of shit.

Posted by: Spicy Meatball at June 30, 2012 10:20 AM (mxnUd)

47 @42: "Derecho" is an established meteorological term. Seriously.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2012 10:20 AM (tqwMN)

48 We have friends and family in the DC area. My husband's been trying to reach them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:20 AM (UOM48)

49 I learned how to interpret the weather by watching Chief Justice Roberts interpret the law.

Posted by: Accuweather.com Reporter at June 30, 2012 10:20 AM (Iyg03)

The weather in the Bay area is perfect?

I blame the sodomy. Well, that and the ocean currents.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at June 30, 2012 10:21 AM (sJTmU)

51 Former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir dies at 96 Shamir, born 1915, served in Israel's Shin Bet security service and served as speaker of the Knesset and foreign minister before succeeding Menachem Begin in 1983. By Jonathan Lis | Jun 30, 2012 | 08:49 PM RIP

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 30, 2012 10:21 AM (j1gX1)

52 retraction due to attack of ^*(___^^%%%.

I guess derecho is a term used for this thing why they'd use spanish, don't know.

in my heated state I misplaced a few brain cells and transposed the definition of right and left in spanish.

a la derecha is right and izquierda is left.

I'm going to go eat now and calm down.

I hate phony bs hyping of little used or foreign terms when perfectly good, accurate and long used English ones are available. It still shows snobbery and anti english attitudes i say.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 30, 2012 10:21 AM (CP+yl)

53 I believe it, but I never heard of one either. There are over a million people without power today, in scorching temps, and it will take days to repair that shit. I feel for them.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 30, 2012 10:22 AM (pUqSw)

54 The weather in the Bay area is perfect? I blame the sodomy. Well, that and the ocean currents. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at June 30, 2012 02:21 PM (sJTmU) It turns out the sodomy is an option. For now.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:22 AM (ejmiE)

55 These storms aren't your average thunderstorm or squall line. They move very fast, and are more like a wall or, as I noted earlier, a tsunami, exerting a constant force with even higher gusts.

Storm or squall = wave: hitting and receding

Derecho = tsunami: constantly exerting force

It really is a land-born hurricane, although it produces straight-line winds.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:22 AM (piMMO)

56 We get flat-line winds during storms here that reach over 60 mph. So far none of our big pines have made it through the roof. *crosses fingers*

So awful about the deaths.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:22 AM (UOM48)

57 I think this is one of those media made-up terms. Derecho in Spanish means either "to the right" or "straight ahead." A hurricane spins and occurs over water, so I doubt there's a "land hurricane" and you wouldn't call something that spins "derecho." I bet derecho in this sense means something like "front." It's a big-ass front of storms, hence the "super." And as usual we have our sterling high-school graduate media regurgitating the mistakes of one another.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 30, 2012 10:22 AM (jhiY8)

58 Derecho means LEFT so that means that we should start calling the Media the Derecho Media? Hey I'm all for it.

Good fricking grief. They twist EVERYTHING around their inaccurate world view.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 30, 2012 02:15 PM (CP+yl)

That should be Super Derecho Media , and super derecho journalists.

Works.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at June 30, 2012 10:22 AM (AWmfW)

59 Jane, heat index here is currently 122Â°.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 10:22 AM (YdQQY)

60 Tomorrow I'll call it a "whirling dervish." That'll be exciting too.

Posted by: Accuweather.com Reporter at June 30, 2012 10:23 AM (Iyg03)

61 @52 they scheduled a big one for SF, beach front property will be in Walnut Creek..

Posted by: Clemenza at June 30, 2012 10:23 AM (xWBmU)

62 Vic, stay indoors. I'm leaving again on another errand. Thank God I had the air-conditioning repaired in my car on Monday.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:24 AM (UOM48)

63 No more "low pressure center" for us. Only fancy words.

Posted by: Accuweather.com Reporter at June 30, 2012 10:24 AM (Iyg03)

64 People here refer to these things as "Gust-nadoes".

****

But these are just gusts, they are constant, sustained winds of 80mph or so within which there will be higher gusts.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:24 AM (piMMO)

65 >> more like a wall

This makes more sense than something that spins, like a land hurricane would.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 30, 2012 10:24 AM (jhiY8)

66
Also clouds?

Henceforth known as ' pinatas de coton ' .

Posted by: Obama's Servicio de " Weather "Nacional at June 30, 2012 10:25 AM (zsgo8)

35 It also dropped the temperature over 20 degrees in about a half hour here.

Yeah, that's the one good thing that usually happens after one of these things hits.

I've seen a temperature drop of as much as 45 degrees sometimes.

Softball-sized hail is usually what goes along with it though.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 10:25 AM (jPxSq)

68 Izquierda is left, derecho is right.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 30, 2012 10:25 AM (jhiY8)

Derecho; Spanish words doing the work that English words are unwilling to do.

It's the sign of the times. Cie la Vie!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at June 30, 2012 10:26 AM (sJTmU)

70 Stop this, stop this at once. I won't tolerate this nonsense!

Posted by: Reginald Lickschitz, Attorney At Law at June 30, 2012 10:27 AM (L7hol)

71 Lavate los manos!

Posted by: Steve Smith at June 30, 2012 10:27 AM (GYtLP)

72 Izquierda is left, derecho is right. Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 30, 2012 02:25 PM (jhiY

We'll see about that.

Posted by: CJ Roberts at June 30, 2012 10:27 AM (ejmiE)

73 Derecho? Never heard of one of those before. Saw a Boracho in Cabo once. It only destroyed a 40 square foot area though.

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert Looking For My Sock Named Liberty at June 30, 2012 10:27 AM (zAcMD)

74 You know what's really weird? 100+ mph straight line winds out of the blue. Not a cloud anywhere.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 30, 2012 10:27 AM (Iyg03)

75 @60: The Wikipedia page for "derecho" as a meteorological term was created in 2004, and it is a well known term to storm chasers and weather geeks. It isn't something the MFM is making up to secretly promote illegal immigration, I promise.

"Tornado" is a mangle of the Spanish for "thunderstorm", by the way, so there's even precedent for pillaging other peoples' languages.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2012 10:27 AM (tqwMN)

76 Ok, since reading about this, I've read that Derecho means, right, left and straight.

Which is it?!

Posted by: Tami at June 30, 2012 10:27 AM (X6akg)

77 You know what's really weird? 100+ mph straight line winds out of the blue.

We call those "juggernados."

Posted by: Accuweather.com Reporter at June 30, 2012 10:28 AM (Iyg03)

78 And to top it all off, the volcano on the Canary Islands is rumbling.

Anyone remember that Mega-Tsunami program on Discovery Channel?

Posted by: Courtesy Flush at June 30, 2012 10:28 AM (sw9Gv)

79 This makes more sense than something that spins, like a land hurricane would.

****

Perhaps they should refer to it as a land or wind tsunami as it does paint a much clearer picture.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:28 AM (piMMO)

80 And to top it all off, the volcano on the Canary Islands is rumbling.

Anyone remember that Mega-Tsunami program on Discovery Channel?

****

Something like Loma Pietro.... is that the one?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:29 AM (piMMO)

Derecho means........you're screwed!!

Look out! Here comes the flying trampoline!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at June 30, 2012 10:29 AM (sJTmU)

82 izquierda - left
derecha - right

derecho - straight

Posted by: excerpt from King Obama's Guide to a Brave New World at June 30, 2012 10:29 AM (zsgo8)

83 And to top it all off, the volcano on the Canary Islands is rumbling. Anyone remember that Mega-Tsunami program on Discovery Channel? Posted by: Courtesy Flush at June 30, 2012 02:28 PM (sw9Gv) Shit looks like I pick the wrong week to come back from the West Coast?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 30, 2012 10:30 AM (j1gX1)

84 Yeah, that's the one good thing that usually happens after one of these things hits.
I've seen a temperature drop of as much as 45 degrees sometimes.
Softball-sized hail is usually what goes along with it though.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 02:25 PM (jPxSq

Of course its back up to 87 already today.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2012 10:30 AM (GULKT)

85 Anyone remember that Mega-Tsunami program on Discovery Channel? Posted by: Courtesy Flush at June 30, 2012 02:28 PM (sw9Gv) Yep. Half the island slips off into the sea and the resulting displacement wave strikes the East Coast of the USA like a wife beater who just got served burnt lasagna.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:31 AM (ejmiE)

derecho - straight

Forward, never straight!

Posted by: Annoying Homo Slogans at June 30, 2012 10:31 AM (GYtLP)

67....But these are just gusts, they are constant, sustained winds of 80mph or so within which there will be higher gusts.

Yeah, I know....a big Wall Cloud can bring in severe winds that last for a while.

I've been caught out in them...knocked down, had to crawl on the ground.

One time I was driving, pulled over and parked....couldn't get my truck door open because the wind was blowing so strong.....and I was using both feet against it!

It lasted about 25 minutes.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 10:31 AM (jPxSq)

88 Something like Loma Pietro.... is that the one?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

They have had increasing earthquakes for about a week I guess. (Both intensity, and frequency)
They are saying that it is from magma flow beneath the island.

Posted by: Courtesy Flush at June 30, 2012 10:32 AM (sw9Gv)

89 They have had increasing earthquakes for about a week I guess. (Both intensity, and frequency) They are saying that it is from magma flow beneath the island. Posted by: Courtesy Flush at June 30, 2012 02:32 PM (sw9Gv) Another way to wash away ObamaCare?

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:33 AM (ejmiE)

90 Down here in Texas we go from sun to shade because of a huge front of small puffy round clouds. Local weather reporters are saying it is we havn't seen a Ying and Yang like this since 1998.

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert Looking For My Sock Named Liberty at June 30, 2012 10:35 AM (htu8n)

91 It's like haboob instead of sandstorm. Never heard of it and will never use it in a sentence again.

Posted by: The Reverend Al at June 30, 2012 10:35 AM (bAGA/)

92 "not left...not right, but always twirling. Twirling to freedom!"

Posted by: derit at June 30, 2012 10:35 AM (ruiF1)

93 Something like Loma Pietro.... is that the one?

****

I totally missed the name. I looked it up and it's La Palma.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:35 AM (piMMO)

94 I didn't lose power last night while all my neighbors did (I live in the MD suburbs of DC)....but then it suddenly went out two hours ago. AND IT'S SUNNY OUTSIDE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

So I came into the office.

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 30, 2012 10:35 AM (MODWM)

95 Hey I ripped a El Derecho after I ate one of those new Dorito Loco Tacos

Posted by: Zombie El Bejay at June 30, 2012 10:36 AM (Qr9Rc)

96 89 Anyone remember that Mega-Tsunami program on Discovery Channel?
Posted by: Courtesy Flush at June 30, 2012 02:28 PM (sw9Gv)

Yep.

Half the island slips off into the sea and the resulting displacement wave strikes the East Coast of the USA like a wife beater who just got served burnt lasagna.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 02:31 PM (ejmiE

Oh great.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:36 AM (UOM48)

77 You know what's really weird? 100+ mph straight line winds out of the blue. Not a cloud anywhere.

Yup. ....No warning. No wall cloud. ....You just suddenly can't stand up.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 10:36 AM (jPxSq)

98 @94

heresy!

Posted by: SMOD at June 30, 2012 10:36 AM (zsgo8)

99 Yeah, I know....a big Wall Cloud can bring in severe winds that last for a while.
I've been caught out in them...knocked down, had to crawl on the ground.
One time I was driving, pulled over and parked....couldn't get my truck door open because the wind was blowing so strong.....and I was using both feet against it!
It lasted about 25 minutes.

****

Scary!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:36 AM (piMMO)

100 76 I got really baracho on tequila once in Matamoros.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 30, 2012 10:37 AM (mFxQX)

101

Look out! Here comes the flying trampoline!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at June 30, 2012 02:29 PM (sJTmU)

Heh. I was driving around the course this morning and while I didn't see any trampolines in the fairways, there were trees down EVERYWHERE.

We were cutting trees that were laying on the cart path in such a fashion as to give a golf cart enough room to get through. There were quite a few members that were cranky about the fact that the course was closed.

We'll be running chainsaws for probably the next week or so.

As an aside, I'm blessed to have power. I hear that 345,000 homes don't have power in Central Ohio alone.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 10:37 AM (/tQ+8)

102 Damn racist sock should be funeralizin' Rodney King just about now.

Posted by: huerfano at June 30, 2012 10:37 AM (bAGA/)

103 Oh, and it doesn't help that we happen to be blessed with the single most incompetent power company in entire United States here in suburban Maryland: PEPCO.

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 30, 2012 10:37 AM (MODWM)

104 There are ten dead now.

Another round of storms this afternoon.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:37 AM (UOM48)

105
#93

.....They are saying that it is from magma flow beneath the island.

Against advice of counsel, my client, Mr. Andrew Dice Clay, would like to say:

"I've got some magma flowing through my pants right now! (dramatic pause) Oh!"

Posted by: Reginald Lickschitz, Attorney At Law at June 30, 2012 10:38 AM (L7hol)

106 heresy! Posted by: SMOD at June 30, 2012 02:36 PM (zsgo

Well, you are taking your sweet time, Rocky.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:38 AM (ejmiE)

107

89, 100

Which part of the east coast?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 30, 2012 10:39 AM (mFxQX)

108 we should be marching in the streets and here we sit la te da while the country is being stole out from under us financed with our money

Posted by: ready to rumble dude at June 30, 2012 10:39 AM (Qr9Rc)

109 4 It's lovely here in Malta, though. I'm having a great time.

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Apparently, you haven't been sightseeing in Timbuktu. The Islamists have taken to tearing down non-Islamic shrines.

http://tinyurl.com/82gx7xt

Posted by: Anachronda at June 30, 2012 10:39 AM (1c58W)

110 Justice Roberts was just on TV. It's not a "Derecho", he says, it's an "expanded tornado" and entirely normal. Moreover, any future highly destructive storm of any type is also a tornado. Lastly, he said witha merry wave, "fuck you America!" as he got on his flight to Malta.

Posted by: MTF at June 30, 2012 10:40 AM (JOnLy)

111 Which part of the east coast? Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 30, 2012 02:39 PM (mFxQX) The whole part.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:40 AM (ejmiE)

112

My son, the weather geek, knew what a dericho was.

Figures.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 10:40 AM (bMLFV)

113 D'oh. And the dislexia kicks in. Malta != Mali. Never mind.

Posted by: Anachronda, feeling sheepish at June 30, 2012 10:40 AM (1c58W)

114 We were without power for 13 hours. Cranked up the generator to keep the refrigerator going. The electricity is now back on in my area of Fairfax Co. But, from my morning travels, most of Fairfax County is a traffic mess with traffic lights not working.

Posted by: Jim Scrummy at June 30, 2012 10:41 AM (7kaU1)

115 Liquid Hot Mag-ma.

Posted by: Dr. Evil at June 30, 2012 10:41 AM (GYtLP)

116 Lets have another look at that super Derecho.

http://is.gd/tY7Q0n

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 10:42 AM (YdQQY)

117 Everyone knows volcanoes are controlled by the big corporations.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:42 AM (ejmiE)

118

we should be marching in the streets and here we sit la te da while the country is being stole out from under us financed with our money

Wasn't the sacred honor strokefest on last nights ONT enough for you?

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 10:43 AM (GYtLP)

119 117 My son, the weather geek, knew what a dericho was.

Figures.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 02:40 PM (bMLFV)

Call him a homo for us please.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2012 10:43 AM (GULKT)

120 Blessed Mother Gaia will totally kill you in your sleep on Christmas.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 30, 2012 10:44 AM (Gk3SS)

121 We're experiencing record heat here in Alabama. Highs around 105 today, luckily low humidity so it's not as bad as it could be.

The local meteorologists keep pointing out that these temps won't break the records. Turns out all the really hot temperature records were set back in the '30s. Funny, you'll never hear the AGW crowd mention that...

Posted by: Lone Marauder, pre-denounced for your convenience/SMOD 2012 at June 30, 2012 10:44 AM (eHBHk)

122 It was slamming here last night. Reminded me of when a "wet" hurricane comes through--whipping the trees around, power going on and off, temp drops of up to 30 degrees. Most...invigorating. Glad I wasn't on the Metro.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at June 30, 2012 10:44 AM (1Y1JG)

123
Apparently, you haven't been sightseeing in Timbuktu. The Islamists have taken to tearing down non-Islamic shrines.

http://tinyurl.com/82gx7xt

Good grief. Stupid fuckwits. I'm sure the Egyptian pyramids and antiquities will be just fine under the Islamists.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:45 AM (UOM48)

124 Fox News Watch host: 17 democrats voted for the contempt resolution. Doesn't that make it bipartisan?

Kirsten Powers: Yeah, but that's a mmminority. It was a party-line vote.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 30, 2012 10:46 AM (1c58W)

125 In Texas, this is known as a "storm". Never heard of this Derecho cat.

Posted by: Hill County Texan at June 30, 2012 10:46 AM (8LNHL)

126 and Robinson Cano goes yard!

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 10:46 AM (GYtLP)

127 Will someone please run to Kroger for me? I can't stand to go back out in this heat, but I have to. Ugh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 10:47 AM (UOM48)

128 I had the Derecho Platter down at Casa Chingaso last night... Let me tell you it's not just the wind that's the problem. It's the smell.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2012 10:47 AM (G9qZk)

129 Is there a reason why we don't just bury all the power lines? Of all the crap stimulus projects that got funded, why didn't we build some actual infrastructure? Bury all the power lines. I know it's not cost-effective in many cases. But the whole Stimulus was about spending money on non cost-effective things anyway. Still don't understand why they didn't just run fiber optics to everybody's house or something like that. Just politically people would at least see something tangible. They'd think, ah that Obama is a socialist traitor motherfucker who led us into Great Depression 2 -- but he did bury all those ugly powerlines and we now have ultra high speed fiber optics internet. No job or money, but highspeed ultra HD cat videos on youtube.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 10:47 AM (ZPrif)

130 De Recho? Isn't that "to the right" in Spanish?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 30, 2012 10:47 AM (r4wIV)

131

Looking at this hot weather and the forest fires, I'd swear it was summer.

Next up, UFOs! That always happens in the summer too.

Posted by: Prez 4 Evah Superhero Genius at June 30, 2012 10:47 AM (Usk3+)

132

104....Scary!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 02:36 PM (piMMO)

Yeah, it can be.

And don't get me wrong....I'm not trying to be dismissive of the misery that folks are suffering from this.

Just saying, it's not something that's all that "new".

What's "new" is that it is happening somewhere where this sort of weather is not usually seen....at least not in our lifetimes.

But then....a thousand years ago, this type of crazy weather could've been happening...a lot.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 10:48 AM (jPxSq)

133 Kirsten Powers: Gun walking is actually a very common law enforcement tactic.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 30, 2012 10:48 AM (1c58W)

134 It's 238 degrees (estimated) here in NC and my pool is still greener than Al Gore's asshole. Hating the pool guy.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 30, 2012 10:48 AM (HethX)

135 OT: Anyone else see this film Nancy Pelosi's daughter made? She interviewed welfare recipients in NYC.....

Warning: The clip is from Bill Maher's show.....

http://tinyurl.com/6lzkl6u

Posted by: Tami at June 30, 2012 10:49 AM (X6akg)

136 A derecho you say? Seems unhealthy. Time for a tax.

Posted by: Taxin' John Roberts at June 30, 2012 10:49 AM (AwMQp)

137

[wait for it.... wait for it.... NOW!]

"Global Warming!!! Global Warming! We're all going to die if we don't turn in our evil SUV's and lawn mowers and stop using air conditioning!"

Posted by: chuck in st paul at June 30, 2012 10:50 AM (EhYdw)

138 This is why it is good to have your own power generator. After my sister had to abandon ship from Hurricane Ike (I think that was the one) in Houston, we learned our lesson. Have a generator so at least you can run your refrig, and some other things, like the margarita machine. Priorities.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at June 30, 2012 10:50 AM (noqys)

139 I'm going to tax any state that allows UFOs within it's borders! And then we educate the little aliens and give them healthcare!

Posted by: Prez 4 Evah Superhero Genius at June 30, 2012 10:50 AM (Usk3+)

140 The destruction and deaths are very lamentable, but as a former proofreader I also weep over this sentence:

Two boys died by a pine tree fell onto a tent at Parvin State Park, N.J.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at June 30, 2012 10:51 AM (VENdg)

141 If this "derecho" is caused by global warming the I say it is time to tax Mother Gaia.

Posted by: Taxin' John Roberts at June 30, 2012 10:51 AM (AwMQp)

142 Is there a reason why we don't just bury all the power lines?

Because it is expensive as hell. It would double your electric bill, possibly even triple it.

In new neighborhoods if the run the lines at the same time as other utilities and share costs it is cheaper. But doing it in neighborhoods which are the end points on the grid does not solve the problem.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 10:52 AM (YdQQY)

143 Flipping channels. X Games is still on the air. I don't think I've seen anybody do anything new on a skateboard in a decade. All these trick-style events have the problem that people get bored quick and each new, more difficult trick doesn't look very different from the last one. First time I see somebody do a backflip on skateboard it's impressive. The 416th time I see it ... not that impressive, even if they do Double Fakey Kick Twist in the middle of the back flip. Still basically just a backflip.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 10:53 AM (ZPrif)

144

Can we just draft a Constitutional Amendment that says that the Government CANNOT assess a penalty or tax on any citizen for not entering into Commerce?

Roberts' decision just says that RIGHT NOW citizens can choose to pay a tax rather than purchase health insurance.

He never said that citizens couldn't obtain health CARE - we're still free to pay for a doctor's services.

Obama is screwed even worse by this ruling - and We The People have a rather simple job to do: tell Congress that they can't tax us for economic inactivity.

We've all been bitching about how health insurance "hides" the cost of medical care.

If we don't buy it, we'll find out really quick how much services cost - and in the process, we could well see a sea change in the medical field. Doctors might not accept Medicaid, but they will ALWAYS accept cold, hard cash. No doctor is required to accept any insurance (and many have already started to refuse to accept it at all).

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2012 10:53 AM (0xqzf)

145 57 It turns out the sodomy is an option. For now.

------

Until we get taxed for not engaging in it.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 30, 2012 10:53 AM (1c58W)

146

"Two boys died by a pine tree fell onto a tent at Parvin State Park, N.J."

;;;

Ug-lee.

Posted by: Prez 4 Evah Superhero Genius at June 30, 2012 10:53 AM (Usk3+)

147

134 Is there a reason why we don't just bury all the power lines?

Bedrock formations....that's usually the reason why they aren't burried.

That is, when they are endeavoring to bury them.

Powerlines are all buried in my area....happened decades ago.

But it's because we get high winds here.

And ice storms, tornadoes, etc.

It's more expensive than to just string above-ground lines....but in the long run, it's a good idea.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 10:53 AM (jPxSq)

148 Obama has learned how to control Karl Rove's weather machine, either thator Al Gore was correct

Posted by: occam at June 30, 2012 10:54 AM (hgDJr)

149 Got lucky here in central Maryland (30-odd miles NW of DC), with no damage and no power outages. Just had a purty lightning show last night.

Posted by: Stu-22 at June 30, 2012 10:55 AM (k4bdL)

150 If we could convert the sound energy of nagging women and whining men into electricity we wouldn't need power lines.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 10:55 AM (ejmiE)

151 Kirsten Powers: Gun walking is actually a very common law enforcement tactic.

****

I don't know if JEP is recorded earlier or if she's just ignoring the blows inflicted to the DOJ's credibility when Issa admitted the wiretaps into the Congressional record.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 10:56 AM (piMMO)

152 153 Obama has learned how to control Karl Rove's weather machine, either thator Al Gore was correct

-------

Oh, so *that's* where Darth Cheney left the keys to HAARP! Funny how they're always in the last place you look.

Posted by: Overheard at the White House at June 30, 2012 10:57 AM (1c58W)

153 In the future there will be no power lines or grid because everyone will have a shipstone for power.

And Roberts will tax it!

Posted by: Robert Heinlein hates Judge Dread Roberts at June 30, 2012 10:57 AM (YdQQY)

154 @147 Double or triple? Any sources for that info? I'm skeptical. I know it's not cost-effective and that's why we don't do it. But we do it for most new developments right? It doesn't raise the marginal cost of providing electricity. I thought it was just that the cost of burying the power lines that already have been built is greater than the savings from having fewer down power lines. Although there's also the aesthetic aspect of areas looking nicer without ugly power lines everywhere. So wealthier areas might consider doing it just as a consumption/ beautification good. New developments get power lines buried cause it's not much more expensive to bury them while you are digging everything up anyway than it is to string up poles. I'm no expert on this. That's just my understanding.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 10:58 AM (ZPrif)

155 Double or triple? Any sources for that info?

30 years in the utility business.

Posted by: Vic "the damn temps too high" Moron at June 30, 2012 10:59 AM (YdQQY)

156 79 Ok, since reading about this, I've read that Derecho means, right, left and straight. I've got it, Barry! If you want something to be Constitutional, just call it derecho!

Posted by: John Roberts, Republican Fuckwit at June 30, 2012 11:01 AM (IoNBC)

157 @160 How about a source I can read so I can understand it beyond a simple assertion. New developments with buried lines obviously don't pay 2-3x the rate for electricity that older developments with above ground wires. The primary driver of the cost of electricity is the source of the energy, right? Pacific northwest has cheap electricity cause they have lots of cheap hydropower close by.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 11:02 AM (ZPrif)

158 The last numbers I saw was that distribution costs ran about 10% to 12% of the average cost. Running new power lines in a new neighborhood is expensive. But changing from overhead to underground in an existing area is outrageously expensive due to having to dig up existing streets, move other utilities, and in a lot of cases actual buildings and infrastructure.

This is on top of killing power to people served in the area being moved. .

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:03 AM (YdQQY)

159 I don't know if it'd triple my bill, but I can see how it is 2x to 3x more expensive to bury them. It takes that much more time, and the most expensive part of the job is labor expense.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 30, 2012 11:03 AM (pUqSw)

160 Let's Do This 1!!11

LEEEEEEERROOOOOOOY ROBERTS!

Posted by: John 'Leeeroy' Roberts [/i] [/b] at June 30, 2012 11:03 AM (famk3)

161 The destruction and deaths are very lamentable, but as a former proofreader I also weep over this sentence:

Two boys died by a pine tree fell onto a tent at Parvin State Park, N.J.

****

Earlier this week The Daily Caller so utterly screwed up a photo caption that I was compelled to remark on it the comments section. It was something like...

Michelle Obama exits a plane to attend the wedding of Valerie Jarrett's daughter at the airport.

I commented: The wedding is at the airport?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:04 AM (piMMO)

162 That picture in the update is pretty freaky. Back home in CO my girlfriend is dealing with smoke. Michelle Malkin was allowed to go home to pickup up some essentials and one of her son's parakeets was dead from smoke. But since the MFM's boyfriend is in office instead of a republican, it's not something. It's just "Oh, you know, that's so Colorado! Now for a sports update..."

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert Looking For My Sock Named Liberty at June 30, 2012 11:05 AM (t0hSy)

163 148 Flipping channels. X Games is still on the air.

I don't think I've seen anybody do anything new on a skateboard in a decade.

All these trick-style events have the problem that people get bored quick and each new, more difficult trick doesn't look very different from the last one.

First time I see somebody do a backflip on skateboard it's impressive. The 416th time I see it ... not that impressive, even if they do Double Fakey Kick Twist in the middle of the back flip. Still basically just a backflip.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 02:53 PM (ZPrif)

So what you're saying is its olympic figure skating for stoners.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2012 11:06 AM (GULKT)

164 derecho vocab lesson http://spanish.about.com/od/spanishvocabulary/a/derecho.htm Answer: it depends whether it's used as a noun, adjective or adverb "a la derecha" means "to the right". derecho can mean: right (vs left), upright, straight ahead, right (like human rights -- derechos humanos)

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 11:06 AM (ZPrif)

165 Michelle Obama exits a plane to attend the wedding of Valerie Jarrett's daughter at the airport. Reminds me of the old joke about a local wedding story: "The bride entered from the front porch wearing an ankle bracelet."

Posted by: Scobface at June 30, 2012 11:07 AM (IoNBC)

166 Looks like the golf tournament at Congressional in Bethesda MD is impacted- many big trees down, and no spectators permitted for today's round- tee-off delayed 6 hrs for cleanup

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 30, 2012 11:07 AM (8sCoq)

167 Valeria Jarrett has a daughter? Someone actually had sex with Minnie Rodent?
I had no idea the woman was even married.

*mind boggles*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 11:09 AM (UOM48)

168 Con Ed workers are threatening to go on strike during the heat wave. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/ Heat-Wave-New-York-Temperature-Weather-Forecast-Thunderstorm-160826185.html Ha ha. Suck it, fucking blue state New Yorkers.

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2012 11:10 AM (sdi6R)

169

"Buried Power Lines".....has been a selling point in New Developments here since the early 80's.

The developers do it.

It's become kind of standard now....even in the lower-cost 'starter home' developments, with homes starting in the $60K range.

OGandE has also been systematically burying some of their main lines, though...for years...in areas where the bedrock outcroppings don't prohibit it.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 11:10 AM (jPxSq)

170 Valeria Jarrett has a daughter? Someone actually had sex with Minnie Rodent?
I had no idea the woman was even married.

*mind boggles*

*****

Yep. At some point, a man looked at her and said "I'd hit that".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:11 AM (piMMO)

171 The other problem with burying lines is that you do not eliminate risk. I would say it reduces risk of outages but you still have other problems.

As I said earlier there are major feeder lines that can not be buried. Then there is the risk of failure from flooding.

The old rule of thumb for burying local lines was about $1M per mile. Higher in some areas, lower in others.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:11 AM (YdQQY)

172 Valeria = Valerie

*creeped out fingers*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 11:12 AM (UOM48)

173 What does the Jarrett daughter look like I wonder? Is she as lovely as her mom?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2012 11:13 AM (UOM48)

174 Latest news is 12 dead in Va, NJ, Ohio and Pa from the storm. Montgomery and PG counties in MD are on water emergency due to lack of power to the filtration plants. We never lost power here but a lot of folks around did. We may have a dozen friends over tonight for a sleepover.

Posted by: Jim in virginIa at June 30, 2012 11:13 AM (RWHey)

175 >The other problem with burying lines is that you do not eliminate risk.

all it takes is one idiot with a backhoe to cut a fiber optic cable and fuck up your nationwide network for 24-48 hrs while they make repairs

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 30, 2012 11:13 AM (8sCoq)

176 Yep. At some point, a man looked at her and said "I'd hit that".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 03:11 PM (piMMO)

>>> probably a moron

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 30, 2012 11:14 AM (mFxQX)

177 BTW OT a little bit but are you guys feeling like I am every time you read some idiot writer say "the Roberts ruling was really a win for conservatives"...like skull dragging them across your kitchen and shoving their head in the oven?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 30, 2012 02:08 PM (++kZl)

Not so much. I'm thinking more something with a mallet and a turkey fork.

Posted by: Ward of the State #3894635A at June 30, 2012 11:14 AM (fWqsc)

178 Nacho Cheese Derecho's. Damn, it's 104Â° here.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 11:15 AM (8E1X2)

179 Above-ground power lines are definitely derecho.

Posted by: John Roberts, Republican Fuckwit at June 30, 2012 11:15 AM (IoNBC)

180 >Posted by: Jim in virginIa at June 30, 2012 03:13 PM (RWHey)

I have people in Woodbridge VA- what's the word there?

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 30, 2012 11:16 AM (8sCoq)

181 Yay, my Fairfax based in-laws are considering spending the next few days at our place. 6 hour drive both ways, I desperately wanted to suggest they just drive a few miles and check into a Marriot or somethng, but I didn't. Now waiting for final decision.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 30, 2012 11:16 AM (HethX)

182 all it takes is one idiot with a backhoe to cut a fiber optic cable and fuck up your nationwide network for 24-48 hrs while they make repairs

Fiber optic cables only carry telephone and communication service, not electricity. If the idiot on the backhoe hits and underground power feeder cable he will not hit any more cables unless he is a real lucky SOB.

For this reason they bury power feeder cables pretty deep compared to other utilities. or, at least we did.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:16 AM (YdQQY)

183

Flat terrain....is also a determining factor, in the cost of burying electric lines, I would think.

Hilly terrain adds more feet to the surface area....among other problems.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 11:18 AM (jPxSq)

184 Sad about the boys killed at Parvin State Park. I think I camped there as a kid.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 11:18 AM (8E1X2)

185 >Fiber optic cables only carry telephone and communication service, not electricity.

Yes, I know. And when a guy with a backhoe yanks it, our customers are SOL til it gets spliced.

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 30, 2012 11:18 AM (8sCoq)

186 What does the Jarrett daughter look like I wonder? Is she as lovely as her mom?

****

Quite cute, but with traces of her mom.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:19 AM (piMMO)

187 Flat terrain....is also a determining factor, in the cost of burying electric lines, I would think.

The biggest cost is existing infrastructure that has to be moved. Putting it into a new neighborhood with zero infrastructure is actually only slightly higher in cost.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:20 AM (YdQQY)

188 190 >Fiber optic cables only carry telephone and communication service, not electricity. Serious penaltax opportunity, right there.

Posted by: John Roberts, Republican Fuckwit at June 30, 2012 11:20 AM (IoNBC)

189 I was in northern Minnesota when the 1990 derecho hit, it was nuts!!

Posted by: rog at June 30, 2012 11:22 AM (rWMlW)

190 I've read elsewhere that a trade-off between above ground and buried lines is that buried lines have lower rates of failure, but diagnosing and fixing the failure tends to take longer and be more expensive. But it would seem, to my untrained eye, that the buried lines would help prevent these mass outage scenarios. And that's what I care most about I think. These mass downing of trees and lines due to high winds or ice wouldn't happen if the lines were buried. We really aren't equipped to handle millions of people without power simultaneously.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 11:22 AM (ZPrif)

191 Here's a photo and a little Q and A. I just love it when libs try to be deep.

You can never have too many: Â“Good friends or setbacks in lifeÂ—both give strength and build character.Â”

http://binged.it/MJ0eo7

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:22 AM (piMMO)

192 185 Jones- I haven't seen any news on Woodbridge other than that the county 911 system there is not working. Wireless and internet (Verizoon) service were out here this morning, I guess because of heavy demand but seem normal now.

Posted by: Jim in virginIa at June 30, 2012 11:22 AM (RWHey)

193 I have an ex gf in VA. Unless this storm was conjured up by an enemy witch I doubt she's in much danger.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2012 11:24 AM (ejmiE)

194

No doctor is required to accept any insurance (and many have already started to refuse to accept it at all).

Really? Because in our experience, when you say you are self-pay and have no insurance, they look at you like you have 3 heads.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 11:24 AM (bMLFV)

195 The 911 service is down in much of NoVa. Good example of how, when things break down, everything tends to break down at once -- including the systems designed to identify, respond, and fix any breakdowns.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 11:25 AM (ZPrif)

196 Really? Because in our experience, when you say you are self-pay and have no insurance, they look at you like you have 3 heads.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 03:24 PM (bMLFV)

The hospitals here will give you a huge discount if you tell them you will pay them cash up front.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:26 AM (YdQQY)

197 Wouldn't it be easier to find a method for making above-ground utilities more sturdy? I mean, I've been through a number of tropical storms and while it always results in downed or snapped poles, Ive never seen that happen to a concrete pole.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:26 AM (piMMO)

198 Never heard of this phenomenon, but I never heard of a "microburst" before September 2010, when Queens got nearly leveled by one.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at June 30, 2012 11:30 AM (v362Z)

199 202 Steel poles are the best, but trees will still knock wires down.

Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at June 30, 2012 11:30 AM (v362Z)

200 The problem normally isn't the pole. The usual failure mechanism is trees and limbs falling into the wires and breaking them or shorting them out phase to phase.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:31 AM (YdQQY)

201 The 911 service is down in much of NoVa.

Good example of how, when things break down, everything tends to break down at once -- including the systems designed to identify, respond, and fix any breakdowns.

****

The need to address the immediate issue is, of course, the paramount concern. It would also seem a good opportunity for events such as these to be viewed as opportunities to practice and plan for much larger events.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:32 AM (piMMO)

202 11 That trampoline wrapped around a power line is something you don't see everyday. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 02:06 PM (piMMO) We lost a trampoline a couple of summers ago with a big t-storm. I was actually interviewed for an article in the Baltimore Sun because of it. Of course, the reporter fucked up and said it was a 50' tramp in the article, instead of a 15'. 50? Really? The storms that went through here last night were pretty nasty, but we missed the worst of it. Looks like today's setting up to be a repeat. Foots Forecast says the conditions are ripe for more nasty crap starting around 5 here in the Baltimore region.

Posted by: NukemHill at June 30, 2012 11:33 AM (7WLzC)

203

The hospitals here will give you a huge discount if you tell them you will pay them cash up front.

Yes, here also. After they wrap their beautocratic little brains around the fact that we have no insurance.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 11:34 AM (bMLFV)

204 The grid substations and distribution centers also have sensors that monitor for those faults. When they detect a fault caused by something striking the line they will open a major feeder breaker supplying that line and then reclose it after a set interval (short). It will do this three times until the fault clears or stays in with the interval being longer each time. After the third time the breaker will open and remain open.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:34 AM (YdQQY)

205

192...The biggest cost is existing infrastructure that has to be moved. Putting it into a new neighborhood with zero infrastructure is actually only slightly higher in cost.

Yeah, Vic.....I can imagine what the headaches would be, in going in and burying cables in an older neighborhood.

Where I am, everything is buried.

All the utilites.

There is also an ongoing public service program....."Call before you Dig"....with a number to call, for someone to come out and mark where everything is on your property, before you start digging.

It's free.

They come out with these big wands, and different colored flags....and mark where each line is.

It never really occurred to me that it is not like this everywhere else.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 11:34 AM (MbB0O)

206

Beaurocratic, I mean.

Gah.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 11:35 AM (bMLFV)

207 Vic, I appreciate your knowledge about powerlines. I'm just trying to understand it better myself. Went a week without power once in the middle of winter due to an icestorm that snapped all the tree limbs. Wasn't even a bad storm, just was perfect for weighing down tree limbs and power lines.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 11:36 AM (ZPrif)

208 They come out with these bigwands, and different colored flags....and mark where each line is.

When the cable company had to reroute my cable the power company came out and marked the lines with day-glo orange paint.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:37 AM (YdQQY)

209 Beaurocratic, I mean.

Gah.

Is that guy related to Beau Bridges?

Posted by: Ward of the State #3894635A at June 30, 2012 11:37 AM (fWqsc)

210 Not surprising, all Home Depots withIn 40 miles of DC are sold out of generators. One sold all 32 in stock by 830 am. Moral: emergency preparedness is best practiced BEFORE the emergency

Posted by: Jim in virginIa at June 30, 2012 11:39 AM (RWHey)

211 Went a week without power once in the middle of winter due to an icestorm that snapped all the tree limbs. Wasn't even a bad storm, just was perfect for weighing down tree limbs and power lines.

The thing that prevents that is the utility tree trimming program. We used to routinely trim trees round the res8idential and city power lines. But because we have so few snow and ice days here they found it was cheaper to just let the tree grow and let them fail on ice days.

I suspect the utilities further North would still be trimming trees.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:39 AM (YdQQY)

212 It's global warming, you deniers. -- Al Gore's 7th chakra

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 30, 2012 11:39 AM (1hM1d)

213 Oh and how the people bitch about trimming those wonderful trees.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:40 AM (YdQQY)

214 The problem normally isn't the pole. The usual failure mechanism is trees and limbs falling into the wires and breaking them or shorting them out phase to phase.

****

Awww.

After several TS's passed through here in 2005, JEA became much more aggressive about trimming back trees and for the last couple of years have become REALLY aggressive. They will cut away the entire side or top of a tree if it's too near the lines. One of my neighbors had a large palm tree growing directly under and into a line, and I passed one morning to see JEA cutting down the entire tree. That afternoon I passed again and the homeowner was standing at the site, raging about it.

BTW, unlike 2005 when I lost power for a week on two different occasions, I didn't lose power at all when we took a direct hit from Beryl this year.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:41 AM (piMMO)

215

Bureaucratic.

Shaddup.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 11:41 AM (bMLFV)

216 I meant, Ahhhhh

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:42 AM (piMMO)

217 Wow... I remember seeing a derecho in Corpus Christi in 1989...watched it move in, and then hit with a torrential downpour and wind... reminded me of going through a typhoon...

Hope that none of the Moron Nation are suffering...

Posted by: Mjölnir the banhammer at June 30, 2012 11:42 AM (Jls4P)

218 1saleaday was selling generators about a week ago.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 11:43 AM (bMLFV)

219

213...When the cable company had to reroute my cable the power company came out and marked the lines with day-glo orange paint.

Oh yeah....they do that too, in between the flags....a different color for each line.

I forgot about the spray paint.

Orange for electric, Blue for phone, White for cable, Yellow for gas.

They did this when they were having to dig up the water lines in my neighborhood....and then come back several times and re-do it, because the Water Company worked so slow, that people were mowing their lawns....so the markings and flags got messed up/

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 11:44 AM (MbB0O)

220 The thing that prevents that is the utility tree trimming program. We used to routinely trim trees round the res8idential and city power lines. In Tallahassee, the city has a contractor go around trimming off trees that are too close to the power lines. Must be a great gig, a never ending job. That's more for the high winds in a tropical system than an ice storm.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 30, 2012 11:48 AM (1hM1d)

221 What are the generator options for people who live in apartments? Put it outside on the balcony? (Other than get a better paying job so you can buy a house.) Seriously, are there any options for portable power that could heat, cool and light a 1-2 bedroom apartment and that is safe and legal to be used in an apartment setting?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 11:48 AM (ZPrif)

222

Since we now have this new name for a storm....Derecho....how is it pronounced?

Is it...."Der-Reck-Oh"?

Or....."Der-Ree-Cho"?

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 11:49 AM (MbB0O)

223 My dad is in Columbia, MD, and spoke with him this morning. He has power. Columbia's power lines are buried. I'm sorry for the folks going through this storm, but we've woken up to the smell of smoke most days for a couple of weeks now. Everyone has their burdens.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 11:51 AM (5H6zj)

224 So now I have to press 1 for English even when all I want is a weather report?

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 30, 2012 11:51 AM (R5yLq)

225

Shit, my hash has changed....again.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 11:52 AM (MbB0O)

226 Seriously, are there any options for portable power that could heat, cool and light a 1-2 bedroom apartment and that is safe and legal to be used in an apartment setting?

Generally a portable generator that would fit on a patio or a porch would only supply your refer, a few lights, and a radio. It takes a big honcho to power the who house or a whole apartment.

And besides, the way apartments are generally built you would not be able to do that anyway even if you had room.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 11:52 AM (YdQQY)

227 >>Shit, my hash has changed....again. >>Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 03:52 PM (MbB0O) BOO! ;-)

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 11:52 AM (5H6zj)

228 I don't wish anyone a bad week. I spent 14 days without power after Hugo.

MSM, no mention. You know it hit the South. Wasn't Katrina, no Blacks involved, blah blah blah.

So you poor Blue state morons, my best.

The rest of them. God works in funny ways, change your vote.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at June 30, 2012 11:53 AM (KZI7g)

229 I wish I had a house instead of an apartment.

Posted by: dantesed at June 30, 2012 11:55 AM (+gzmR)

230 I can't wait for my standing ovation at the next State of the Union address.

Posted by: John Roberts, Republican Fuckwit at June 30, 2012 11:55 AM (IoNBC)

231 @ExJon El NiÃ±os & Derechos are doing the damage American storms won't do.

Posted by: Retread at June 30, 2012 11:56 AM (I2fq9)

232 deh-RAY-cho (I think) maybe duh-RAY-cho like tor-NAY-do Of course, we added tornado back when Americans had balls. If we were adding it today we'd probably pronounce it "tor-NAH-do" to be more "authentic". I'll have to ask President Pock-eee-stahn.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 11:56 AM (ZPrif)

233 Storm? What storm? I am off to Paris for the 4th. Fund raiser at your expense, don't you know.

Troops here? WTF. Michelle has never been to Paris, thought you all wouldn't mine paying for her, her mom and kids, to see it.

Oh happy Fourth. Eat Me.

Posted by: Injuin Blackfoot Barry, The One Who Eats Dogs at June 30, 2012 11:56 AM (KZI7g)

234

Since we now have this new name for a storm....Derecho....how is it pronounced?
Is it...."Der-Reck-Oh"?
Or....."Der-Ree-Cho"?

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 03:49 PM (MbB0O)

Big fucking wind?

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 11:57 AM (/tQ+8)

235 Hee.

Why let a little rain ruin your daily routine?

This, from TS Debby: http://bit.ly/KKBOYm

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 11:58 AM (piMMO)

236 This via Twitter: @PPact #Romney wants to "get rid" of Planned Parenthood. Protect women's health! Donate now & your gift will be doubled: http://t.co/q8r4uBGU So the Dems continue to give us reasons to vote for Mitt. LOL

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 11:58 AM (5H6zj)

237 This tanning bed penaltax will not stand!

Posted by: John "Studly" Boehner at June 30, 2012 12:02 PM (IoNBC)

238

WTF, she was 90. Death panel was gonna whack her the next time she coughed anyway.

Liberals only care about this story 'cuz solar/wind power doesn't kill people, carbon emmissions do!

Posted by: Roger Simon at June 30, 2012 12:03 PM (QyKLb)

239

235

You deserve a lifetime of free wine and brie for that bit of Constitutional carnage!

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 30, 2012 12:03 PM (sdNZ8)

240 I don't wish anyone a bad week. I spent 14 days without power after Hugo.

I lost power 4 or 5 days from Hugo. But luckily I had recently abandoned my deepwell and went to county water. So I had water.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 12:03 PM (YdQQY)

241 @amhistorymuseum Today in 1979: Carter has 32 solar panels installed on roof of White House; removed in '86 during Reagan presidency

Posted by: Retread at June 30, 2012 12:03 PM (I2fq9)

242 This tanning bed penaltax will not stand!

****

Of all people, it was Snooki who nailed it: A tax on white people.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 12:03 PM (piMMO)

243 Anyone out there in the Texas area that can shed some more light on the HuffPo/NYTimes hit jobs stating that Texas schools took out "critical thinking" in their current platform? I read up and found it was a mistake, etc: "Â“[The chairman of the Education Subcommittee] indicated that it was an oversight of the committee, that the plank should not have included Â‘critical thinking skillsÂ’ after Â‘values clarification,Â’Â” Elam said. Â“And it was not the intent of the subcommittee to present a plank that would have indicated that the RPT in any way opposed the development of critical thinking skills.Â” Elam said the members of the subcommittee Â“regretÂ” the oversight, but because the mistake was part of the platform approved by the convention, Â“it cannot be corrected until the next state convention in 2014.Â”" But, if you have any more "local" or detailed knowledge, let me know. I'm having an argument with someone about this. hehe And, I asked him if he really, really thought the Texas school system would extract "critical thinking" from the teachings. He finally admitted, no. I told him only a far left lunatic would believe this. But, there it is in every left wing media outlet, and the readers believe it... Thanks for any new ammo. Here's one of the pieces: http://tinyurl.com/7jt5s33

Posted by: help at June 30, 2012 12:04 PM (HOOye)

244 Hey, people die.

Posted by: Juan Williams at June 30, 2012 12:04 PM (CPX+P)

245 WTF, she was 90. Death panel was gonna whack her the next time she coughed anyway.
Liberals only care about this story 'cuz solar/wind powerdoesn't kill people, carbon emmissions do!

****

People die.

Posted by: Juan Williams at June 30, 2012 12:05 PM (piMMO)

246 solar/wind powerdoesn't kill people, carbon emmissions do!

I don't think you want to be standing near a windmill when one of those 200' blades breaks off.

Posted by: fluffy at June 30, 2012 12:05 PM (z9HTb)

247 @251 They don't call them "condor cuisinarts" for nothing.

Posted by: Gran at June 30, 2012 12:06 PM (CPX+P)

248 Also, floating the left wing sphere of crap is the Loch Ness story in Louisiana schools thing. Private Christian schools are using it as a basis for the teachings of creationism. My response: - Private school - Jindal hit job (from every nook and cranny-they will search to dig up dirt on Jindal) The only issue I have is if vouchers are being used to send kids there. But, it's up to the parents whether they want their kids learning this.

Posted by: help at June 30, 2012 12:07 PM (HOOye)

249 I don't think you want to be standing near a windmill when one of those 200' blades breaks off.

Yeah. What he said.

Posted by: The Bald Eagles at June 30, 2012 12:07 PM (I2fq9)

250 >>PEPCO says it'll be 7 days to fully restore power to MD suburbs of DC.

I'd say they should get used to it, because that's what's going to happen when Obama finishes shutting down the coal plants, but I'm sure the regions populated by our rulers will have enough juice to live comfortably while tsking about the livestock elsewhere dying of heat stroke in the dark. The power never goes out in Pyongyang, after all.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is still at work cleaning up other people's fucking mess at June 30, 2012 12:08 PM (ZKzrr)

251 Electric is usually red, potable water blue, waste water green, gas yellow when marked by the utilities. One-call services typically mark whatever they've been asked to mark with orange.

Posted by: Splitface at June 30, 2012 12:08 PM (7+pP9)

252 237 deh-RAY-cho (I think) maybe duh-RAY-cho like tor-NAY-do Excuse us but it is pronounced deh-RACHELRAY-cho

Posted by: Food Network at June 30, 2012 12:08 PM (rY8rX)

253

I wish I had a house instead of an apartment.

All I want is a basement. Everything else is negotiable.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 12:09 PM (bMLFV)

254 @256 Your waste water is green? Cut down on the asparagus.

Posted by: Gran at June 30, 2012 12:09 PM (CPX+P)

255 Derecho. The 'ch' is a 't'. The nuances fail me. I'd love to hear Obama pronounce it.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 12:10 PM (bMLFV)

256 >>Really? Because in our experience, when you say you are self-pay and have no insurance, they look at you like you have 3 heads.

Maybe you should say it in Spanish.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ is still at work cleaning up other people's fucking mess at June 30, 2012 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)

257 Derecho... that is what my love, Reggie, would call me...

Posted by: Choomer in Chief at June 30, 2012 12:12 PM (Jls4P)

258

Derecho. The 'ch' is a 't'. The nuances fail me. I'd love to hear Obama pronounce it.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 04:10 PM (bMLFV)

Dorito! I love Doritos!

Posted by: Preznit All-Class at June 30, 2012 12:13 PM (/tQ+8)

259 Hi all, I live in D.C. and they were reporting six deaths in the area (D.C., VA, MD) here this morning. Mostly from people having trees fall on them or coming into contact with downed power lines.

Posted by: elizabethe at June 30, 2012 12:13 PM (glOKA)

260 261 >>Really? Because in our experience, when you say you are self-pay and have no insurance, they look at you like you have 3 heads.

Maybe you should say it in Spanish.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ is still at work cleaning up other people's fucking mess at June 30, 2012 04:11 PM (ZKzrr)

When I lived in CA, the illegals knew one word when they showed up in the ER (and they did for anything from an imminent delivery to a runny nose)...

MEDI-CAL!!!

Posted by: Choomer in Chief at June 30, 2012 12:14 PM (Jls4P)

261 Just called me power company - they couldn't even give me an estimate on when power would be restored to my neighborhood. Oddly enough, the shopping center right across the street and blocks all around me have power. :/

Posted by: Where's my pressie? at June 30, 2012 12:14 PM (7ByQa)

262 ever notice how storms don't really become national stories until they hit the east coast?

Posted by: exceller at June 30, 2012 12:15 PM (Z7Znk)

263

Derecho [\b]:

Spanish for "Golly Toto, I've a feeling we're about to leave Kansas."

Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2012 12:16 PM (IsolU)

264

Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2012 12:16 PM (IsolU)

265 My sister in VA is without power. She says they say it won't come back on for two more days. Her cell is down to one bar. Trees are down everywhere. Bet they are all laying in the same direction. She lives in Vienna. It's just outside DC.

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock Named Liberty at June 30, 2012 12:17 PM (htu8n)

266

>>from every nook and cranny-they will search to dig up dirt on Jindal

Oh, the local paper has been shitting bricks for weeks about the education plan.

From glancing at the headline across the room--as close as I wanna get to reading the article--not everyone ever associated with a private school is perfect and Gov. Bobby's plan called for educating kids JUST LIKE THAT EVIL PLAN from those evil conservatives at ALEC or somewhere.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 30, 2012 12:17 PM (SUKHu)

267

239....Big fucking wind?

Works for meee.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 12:17 PM (MbB0O)

268 I assumed "derecho" had a related etymolgy with "dirigible." It seems so: Amer.Sp. derecho, from O.Sp. diestro, from L. directus L. directus "straight," pp. of dirigere "set straight."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 12:18 PM (8E1X2)

269 True. There's been more news about the Derecho that hit DC last night than the fires that've been burning down Colorado for two weeks. But, to defend the Media, Colorado Springs has lots of icky Christians while Bethesda votes Progressive. Plus half the media lives there.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 12:19 PM (ZPrif)

270 That famous video of the tornado with the folks huddled under an overpass: Did you know that it was Fox News' Gregg Jarrett during his days at a Witchita station?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 12:19 PM (piMMO)

271

267 ever notice how storms don't really become national stories until they hit the east coast?

Shhh....we're not supposed to notice that.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 12:20 PM (MbB0O)

272 Since we now have this new name for a storm....Derecho....how is it pronounced? Is it...."Der-Reck-Oh"? Or....."Der-Ree-Cho"?Posted by: wheatie

Wiki and their stupid IPA pronunciation* seem to say:
Deh-'ret-sho (accent on the 2nd syllable)

But fuq'em, we don't say Meheeho, we say Mexico. Native English pronunciation is always correct for all words used in an English sentence. Everything else is pretension.

So I'm going with "Derekoh" as in "Jericho".

* (We shouldn't have to learn a 2nd alphabet for phonetic spelling. I hate that stupid crap. )

Posted by: John 'Leeeroy' Roberts [/i] [/b] at June 30, 2012 12:21 PM (famk3)

273 Mens gymnastics is on TV. I think mens gymnastics would be more popular if they guys weren't all 5'4. They are jacked dudes. But tiny jacked dudes. The events reward those with the highest ratio of upper-body strength to bodyweight though, so we get a field of Mighty Mouse dudes. If these guys were even just 5'10 with physiques like that I'd they'd be huge stars.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 12:21 PM (ZPrif)

274 wheatie is right. Shhhhhh.... I'm finding the tweets from some of the politico types I follow right now somewhere between irritating and hysterical.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:22 PM (5H6zj)

275 Are the Olympics on now? I honestly have no idea if they started yet.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:22 PM (5H6zj)

276

275....Yeah, NDH....I knew that.

It happened, like...15 years ago, I think? He mentioned that one time when they were covering some new storms.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 12:23 PM (MbB0O)

277 Olympic trials.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 12:24 PM (ZPrif)

278 Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2012 03:06 PM (GULKT)

THe ones that get me are the extreme BMXers...doing the flying Watusi with a 960 degree handstand and picking his girlfriends belly button lint at the same time. Watched one a couple of years ago that was doing some crazy shit and lost it... impacted on the ground so hard that he lost his shoes....shoes actually flew off his feet when he hit the ground... and fractured his taint (and other bones). He went back like a year later and sucessfully did his trick...the announcer was having a vajayjay o-gasm over him doing it... a real low point in "sports announcing"

If you are still riding a BMX bike and over the age of...I don't know..16...you have NO FREAKING LIFE and are still living in your parent's basement....

BTW... Snowboarders are Satan's SPAWN...

Posted by: Choomer in Chief at June 30, 2012 12:25 PM (Jls4P)

279

Are the Olympics on now? I honestly have no idea if they started yet.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 04:22 PM (5H6zj)

I think trials are going on. The opening ceremonies are July 27, I think.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 12:25 PM (BNKav)

280 Sooo, how's the looting in DC? Worth a trip from Pa?

Posted by: Roger Simon at June 30, 2012 12:25 PM (QyKLb)

281 @281: That was in '99, I believe. A much simpler time.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2012 12:26 PM (tqwMN)

282 The local college gymnastics events here seem to attract an uncomfortable proportion of middle-aged male spectators.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 12:26 PM (8E1X2)

283 5'4"? You're being kind, right?

Posted by: dantesed at June 30, 2012 12:29 PM (+gzmR)

284

Super de Rich'o ripped the whole country this week and we have Obamneycare here for good now.

Romney Day 1: The Republican Congress has sent me a bill to repeal Obamacare, I will now send it back through my veto power, because I specifically said I want to "Repeal and Replace". Until Congress sends back a replacement bill that I can sign, such as a Federal sized Romneycare package, I cannot in good conscious sign a Repeal act.

Posted by: doug at June 30, 2012 12:30 PM (gUGI6)

285 The lead story on the news tonight will be the damage to the cherry blossom trees on the National Mall. Not Colorado burning to the ground for two plus weeks, preemptive foresting being denied or Obama cutting funding for the tanker planes that fight those fires.

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock Named Liberty at June 30, 2012 12:30 PM (t0hSy)

286

280 Are the Olympics on now?

I dunno, Y-not.

My interest level in the Olympics is pretty much zero, these days.

Back when it was just everyday folks competing....it was cool.

Now that it is professional athletes, doing it for a living...it's like any other profession...with corporate or governmental sponsors.

Only they twist themselves into knots trying to explain how it's 'different'....and still for 'amateurs'.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 12:30 PM (MbB0O)

287 Thx re the Olympics. It's so sad. Mr Y-not and I got married in the summer of '84. We had NO MONEY. None. Our honeymoon was spent at my sister's row house in East Baltimore (excuse me, BALLYmore) while she and her husband were off on their honeymoon (we got married in a double wedding). Anyway, being poor, we spent much of our honeymoon watching the Olympics. Such a fond memory. But over the years they've become unwatchable. I hate that the athletes are basically (or actually) professionals now, I hate the over-emphasis on certain athlete's vaseline-lensed stories, I hate the jingoistic nature, I hate the coverage. I would like to be able to see more of each sport, not just the four or five top athletes. How am I supposed to be able to appreciate a great javelin-thrower if I don't get to see the lousy ones? /rant off

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:31 PM (5H6zj)

288 Plus half the media lives there.

Why else would 2 inches of snow be a Major Event? If it happens to a reporter it's automatically news.

Posted by: Retread at June 30, 2012 12:31 PM (I2fq9)

289 Oh good. I never remember to watch or record gymnastics for the kid who's taking it.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 12:32 PM (SUKHu)

290 interesting name I wonder if it is a cutesy nickname for 'right-angle storm.'

Posted by: soothsayer at June 30, 2012 12:32 PM (Vhc4u)

291 My interest level in the Olympics is pretty much zero, these days. Back when it was just everyday folks competing....it was cool. ^This.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:32 PM (5H6zj)

292 BTW... Snowboarders are Satan's SPAWN...

Posted by: Choomer in Chief at June

yeah, they plow the SNOW to the 3' sides of the slopes. At 1st many slopes wouldn't allow them. They should only be allowed in the tube park. Mountains make a foot of snow and these assholes have it plowed off, by going sideways the length of a trail w/in an hour. Thanks for scraping it down to the ice base. Yeah, I'm old

Posted by: Roger Simon at June 30, 2012 12:32 PM (QyKLb)

293

291
280Are the Olympics on now?

They didn't invite Jimmy Page back. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 30, 2012 12:33 PM (dnflv)

294 Now there are a bunch of channels showing different bits of events and the ability to record and fast forward!

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 12:34 PM (SUKHu)

295 LMAO @BuzzFeedAndrew Glenn Beck is selling John Roberts t-shirts. http://t.co/DqX4wBOl

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:35 PM (5H6zj)

296 How come we don't get dickheaded remarks from lefties when Washington DC gets hit with this like they do when "hater Christian states" get it?

And James Wolcott? Fuck you too

Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2012 12:35 PM (Y+DPZ)

297 Final Jeopardy Category: POTPOURRI

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 12:36 PM (8E1X2)

298 On the mens gymanstics deal. Being tiny means they can't be sex symbols for the chicks, or rugged ideals of manliness for dudes. Then again, maybe it's just cause gymnastics is labeled a chick sport. The unitards probably don't help either. It's hard to deny that what they are doing isn't physically impressive. Maybe it's because it's a judged sport. They should make it a race where you have to perform crazy gymnast moves as part of the race. Like you have to jump over a certain span and do a double flip -- or cross a waterway only jumping from pommel horse to pommel horse and only using their hands. Judged events seem to be kinda effeminate by nature.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 12:37 PM (ZPrif)

299

You people on the East Coast ain't seen nuthin yet....as far as 'weird weather'.

Just wait till you get frozen frogs....and burning cats....falling from the sky.

Us folks out here flyover country have seen it all.

But we look forward to seeing what new-fangled names the media elites come up with....for the stuff we've been dealing with all along.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 12:38 PM (MbB0O)

300 Don't normal people call these things "wind shear"?

Derecho sounds like Jericho

Maybe God is saying "fuck you, John Roberts"

Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2012 12:39 PM (Y+DPZ)

301 That defending Keystone thing? We uz just fuckin' witcha.

Posted by: John "Studly" Boehner at June 30, 2012 12:40 PM (IoNBC)

302 Judged events seem to be kinda effeminate by nature. I think George Foreman or Muhammad Ali might disagree.. lol

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 30, 2012 12:40 PM (R5yLq)

303 Posted by: Mama AJ at June 30, 2012 04:17 PM (SUKHu) thx mama

Posted by: help at June 30, 2012 12:41 PM (HOOye)

304 Yeah it knocked out my power last night. Got it back early this morning. It sounded like a freight train when it went through the area here in Hampton Roads.

Posted by: CDR M at June 30, 2012 12:43 PM (EFzYw)

305

306 Don't normal people call these things "wind shear"?

Hell....if you still got skin on yer face...it ain't even "wind shear".

Posted by: Aunt Granny Panties at June 30, 2012 12:43 PM (MbB0O)

306 It was an apocalyptic scene getting gas today. With half the stations closed, I had to drive 30 miles or face 1 hour lines. 1970's flash back. Mostly, I need gas to run the generator to keep the beer cold.

Posted by: sTevo's Crackberry at June 30, 2012 12:43 PM (hiMsy)

307 I hate the over-emphasis on certain athlete's vaseline-lensed stories,

How do they manage to find out about the athletes who have a relative with a death or disease story? Is it on a questionnaire they all fill out?

'I should win a medal because my second cousin is battling a hangnail!'

Posted by: Retread at June 30, 2012 12:44 PM (I2fq9)

308 Why else would 2 inches of snow be a Major Event? If it happens to a reporter it's automatically news. But only if your not attacked by an angry mob of minority youth shouting racial epithets. Weird how that works, isn't it?

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 30, 2012 12:44 PM (R5yLq)

309 Womens gymnastics bothers me more since it is like extreme dog-breeding. Being unnatural pre-pubescent shouldn't be an advantage in an elite level sport. Are there any men's sports where it's a disadvantage to have actually gone through puberty? I knew a girl who did competitive gymnastics. She was barely 5 ft tall and looked like she was 12 at age 25. Not the most fertile looking adult woman I've ever met. She was cute in a, oh you'll be pretty someday when you grow up, way. Except she was already grown. She was a pixie.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 12:45 PM (ZPrif)

310

Mostly, I need gas to run the generator to keep the beer cold.

Posted by: sTevo's Crackberry at June 30, 2012 04:43 PM (hiMsy)

It warms my cold, black heart to see that your priorities are in the correct order.

Cheers!

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 12:45 PM (BNKav)

311 Wait. Was this a Nacho flavored Derecho, or Ranch?

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 30, 2012 12:45 PM (niZvt)

312

so.........

would this be a good time to post the weather here in waikiki?

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2012 12:46 PM (VVFgD)

313 We're gonna do all kinds of popular shit next year, just like always.

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at June 30, 2012 12:46 PM (IoNBC)

314

321 hmmmmmm

i don't know about that..

i thought when the beer gets warm switch to whiskey

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2012 12:48 PM (VVFgD)

315

I'm with Y-Not, I remember growing up how we were glued to the television set every 4 years watching the Olympics. It always seemed so majestic and like such a big deal. Now I rarely watch a single event.

Of course, watching the opening ceremonies for the Bejing Games was enough to scare the beejeezus out of me. Damn, I thought the Chinese were declaring war on the rest of the world right then and there.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 30, 2012 12:49 PM (RZ8pf)

316

beer and then whisky, rather risky

whiskey and then beer, have no fear

Posted by: CanaDave at June 30, 2012 12:49 PM (OZfrM)

317

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 04:21 PM (ZPrif)

Great. Now Ace is going to be crying in the shower all afternoon.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 12:50 PM (Nxma6)

318 Hope y'all get your power back soon. Storms scare me since I've see what they can do up close.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 12:50 PM (SUKHu)

319 >>>I think even the ex-President may go down at this point. I see what you did there.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 12:50 PM (8E1X2)

320 I have beer AND bourbon all the time.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 12:50 PM (YdQQY)

321 Well, the effeminate judging in boxing and UFC is outweighed by the punching each other in the face. Also it's not judged on a standalone basis. They aren't doing a dance routine of martial arts moves and being voted on how pretty they looked while doing it. Maybe figure skating can add, in addition to victory by higher voted score, a victory by knocking your opponent unconscious option.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 12:50 PM (ZPrif)

322

Warm beer is OK. Better than NO beer.

Posted by: USS Diversity at June 30, 2012 04:47 PM (cjTjM)

True dat.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 12:50 PM (BNKav)

323 Wifey was on the Blueridge Parkway today and she was following a snow plow that was clearing tree limbs.

Posted by: sTevo's Crackberry at June 30, 2012 12:50 PM (hiMsy)

324 This thread is getting all Derecho. Time for a fresh one.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 12:51 PM (YdQQY)

325 302 How come we don't get dickheaded remarks from lefties when Washington DC gets hit with this like they do when "hater Christian states" get it? And James Wolcott? Fuck you too Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2012 04:35 PM (Y+DPZ) Leave them alone. When Christian state gets hit it is the only time they get to believe in a God. You know, a Christian God smiting His own Christians for being Christians or something. They only get to practice their religion for one news cycle a couple times a year. Freedom of Religion. Two way street. That's a good thing. Makes it easier to run the f*ckers down.

Posted by: Riding Through The Desert On A Sock Named Liberty at June 30, 2012 12:51 PM (IVRIf)

326

311 Did you guys see the latest on Penn State?

Whole lotta covering-up going on at that place.

That old baby-raping pervert Sandusky, should be strung up by his dick and left to hang there...for the rest of his life.

All those folks that covered for him should be cornholed too.

Posted by: Aunt Granny Panties at June 30, 2012 12:52 PM (MbB0O)

327 @331 Wow.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:52 PM (5H6zj)

328 Boxing judging is really not judging. Mostly what they are doing is counting the blows that land legally.

But my rule of thumb is any sport that relies mainly on a judge issuing a graded number is not a sport.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 12:52 PM (YdQQY)

329 Yeah, the transportation bill was a porky piece of shit. But that's 'cause this is this year. You just wait 'till next year.

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at June 30, 2012 12:53 PM (IoNBC)

330 One of those hit the St. Louis area in 2006, I think it was. With the massive loss of power, I got a week's vacation out of it and it was at least a month before this area was back up again.

Posted by: Christopher Johnson at June 30, 2012 12:54 PM (o9JlE)

331 They seem to be using a different apparatus in the vault. Probably so they have fewer tragic (but kinda funny) injuries where the gymnast screws the pooch on the jump and plows head first into the pommel horse. This looks more like a safely curved dorito.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 12:54 PM (ZPrif)

332 I'm fully in support of Bitch's plan to reduce spending next year, and I always will be.

Posted by: John "Studly" Boehner at June 30, 2012 12:54 PM (IoNBC)

333 Seems like the Deity may be upset with a certain country for overturning certain God-given freedoms. Just sayin'.

Posted by: GregInSeattle at June 30, 2012 12:56 PM (B5cM9)

334 Remember the August deaths of the seniors in France during "national holiday"? US utility unions strike now? Imagine any US record breaking temperature region, but specifically the US muggy East Coast without power in the heat wave. Posted by: maverick muse at June 30, 2012 02:03 PM (BAnPT) There is no right to strike against the public safety! Bring in the National Guard!

Posted by: Calvin Coolidge at June 30, 2012 12:57 PM (XvHmy)

335 @334 The email exchanges, which are too cute by half btw (they never used Sandusky's name or specified the events discussed), are very damning. Although they were clearly trying to protect themselves by trying to be vague, it is very clear what they are discussing. Moreover, they explicit talk about (debate) reporting to child welfare (or whatever the agency is called). And, apparently that one VP also kept a shadow paper file, which he denied having. I'm sorry for Penn State alumni, students, and the good faculty and staff they have (there are some, I've met them), but that school should be a smoldering crater after this.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:57 PM (5H6zj)

336 Y-not, I'm having a hard time with their use of the word humane. Especially since they mean keeping of out of the press.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 12:57 PM (SUKHu)

337

334

Sandusky should be given a "work detail" like Jeffrey Dahmer.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 30, 2012 12:58 PM (dnflv)

338

Just heard on the radio here...."Power crews from Oklahoma and Texas are mobilizing, and headed East, to help restore power to storm-ravaged areas".

Hang in there guys, help is on the way.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 12:59 PM (MbB0O)

339 I must say, I'm quite encouraged by recent developments in Washington.

Posted by: Orrin Hatch, Senator for Life at June 30, 2012 12:59 PM (IoNBC)

340 344 Y-not, I'm having a hard time with their use of the word humane. ----- Yep. I have heard that word used before in messy HR matters, but in this case, given what was happening to those boys, it's sickening.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 12:59 PM (5H6zj)

341 Sandusky should have his whizzer nailed to a stump. Light the stump on fire and give him a dull knife.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 12:59 PM (YdQQY)

342 Posted by: Sun God Barack - Moon Goddess Michelle at June 30, 2012 02:09 PM (zsgo Masaka is waking!

Posted by: Calvin Coolidge at June 30, 2012 12:59 PM (XvHmy)

343 Yep, fuck Penn State with Sandusky's hell-bound dick. And increasingly it looks like Paterno new. So fuck JoePa. Those email make it clear they knew and they covered it up. They looked away. They let it keep happening. Bastards.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 01:00 PM (ZPrif)

344

301LMAO

@BuzzFeedAndrew Glenn Beck is selling John Roberts t-shirts. http://t.co/DqX4wBOl

That!

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 30, 2012 01:00 PM (dnflv)

345 "Since we now have this new name for a storm....Derecho....how is it pronounced? Is it...."Der-Reck-Oh"? Or....."Der-Ree-Cho"?" deh-REH-cho In English it's more natural to have the unaccented first syllable sound more like "duh" or "dih." CH in Spanish is always sounded like CH in "chair."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 30, 2012 01:00 PM (C8mVl)

346 I think you meant to say safely curved dericho. Which h my phone just tried to change to derived ho or somethin.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 01:00 PM (SUKHu)

347 Valeria Jarrett has a daughter? Someone actually had sex with Minnie Rodent? I had no idea the woman was even married. *mind boggles* ***** Yep. At some point, a man looked at her and said "I'd hit that". Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 03:11 PM (piMMO) I feel sorry for the poor Turkey baster she used...

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2012 01:01 PM (XvHmy)

348 Great. Now Ace is going to be crying in the shower all afternoon.

Why? He never reads this dreck.

Posted by: fluffy at June 30, 2012 01:01 PM (z9HTb)

349 Despite hating the name, Serial Killer Earth, I am always glued to it. Right now their starting a piece about the tsunami in Japan.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 01:02 PM (piMMO)

350 No doctor is required to accept any insurance (and many have already started to refuse to accept it at all). ***** Really? Because in our experience, when you say you are self-pay and have no insurance, they look at you like you have 3 heads. Posted by: katya, the designated driver at June 30, 2012 03:24 PM (bMLFV) When I pay directly the doctor's are always pleasantly surprised and treat me like royalty. For routine stuff, paying directly is the only way to go -- just use insurance for big emergencies or expensive treatment for chronic conditions.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2012 01:04 PM (XvHmy)

351 273 I assumed "derecho" had a related etymolgy with "dirigible."

-----------

Which is just proof that they are being steered by the gummint using HAARP.

Posted by: Anachronda, with tinfoil hat atop at June 30, 2012 01:06 PM (1c58W)

352 I'm lovin' the "pork for me, not for thee" GOP!

Posted by: John Thune at June 30, 2012 01:06 PM (IoNBC)

353

Thanks for all the helpful pronunciation tips on.....'Derecho'.

So the consensus is, it's pronounced.....Duh-Retch-O.

No wonder it sorta triggered my gag reflex, seeing a prissy new name for a Wall Cloud.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 01:06 PM (MbB0O)

354 I'm firmly on record in opposition to pork. Except pork for the Florida sugar monopoly. That's "the other white meat."

Posted by: Marco Rubio at June 30, 2012 01:08 PM (IoNBC)

355 This proves man made global warming and climate change. We should stop using oil now and use only renewable energy like President Obama said !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Carley Homsteir at June 30, 2012 01:09 PM (YVbwx)

356

357.....'Serial Killer Earth'?

I've watched that show too.

I kinda like the name.....because it gets the idea out there, that Mother Earth has been killing off us puny humans....long before the liberals figured out a way to use this phenomenon for their own propaganda.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 01:10 PM (MbB0O)

357 The root cause of this "power crisis" that everyone is talking about is that everyone expects to have power. We are actively working on a plan to solve the problem.

Posted by: EPA at June 30, 2012 01:10 PM (MG6Y6)

358 Bummer. hmmm. Beautiful here in Anchorage. Sunny. 70d. Going fishing. <whistling>

Posted by: Alaskan Warthog at June 30, 2012 01:11 PM (PKNoF)

359

Wow. AEP just updated and the number is 312,000 customers without power in Central Ohio and 573,000 total in Ohio.

Temp here is 91 with a dewpoint of 63.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 01:12 PM (BNKav)

360 Here is my Olympic question... What are they going to do if Prince Phillip up and dies in the middle of it? Keep him on ice? They can't have a state funeral in the middle of the Olympics.

Posted by: Stormy at June 30, 2012 01:13 PM (8J9h2)

361

Going fishing.

Kings? Silvers?

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 01:13 PM (hztk+)

362 Close wheatie.
day Retch o.

God I love to hear yankees talk Spanish. Esp. like the way ya'll say LA Ray do.

Posted by: Pecos at June 30, 2012 01:13 PM (2Gb0y)

363 93 F here right now, but only 7% humidity, which is a mixed blessing with all the fires around here. Fortunately, no wind right now.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 01:14 PM (5H6zj)

364 Thanks to John Roberts, we're in perfect position to eliminate the deficit.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at June 30, 2012 01:16 PM (IoNBC)

365

93 F here right now, but only 7% humidity, which is a mixed blessing with all the fires around here. Fortunately, no wind right now.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 05:14 PM (5H6zj)

7 %? Damn,

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 01:17 PM (BNKav)

366 361 - "So the consensus is, it's pronounced.....Duh-Retch-O." Yes! And you found the best way to write it out!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 30, 2012 01:17 PM (C8mVl)

367 Er, just damn.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 01:17 PM (BNKav)

368 %$#@ 106 here

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 01:18 PM (8E1X2)

369 Ya'll try this one: asqueroaasquetoso.

Posted by: Pecos at June 30, 2012 01:19 PM (2Gb0y)

370 376 %$#@ 106 here ---- Ugh. We hit 102 yesterday. Our high usually comes later in the day, around 5 or 6 pm. But we get a 30-35 F temperature drop overnight.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 01:20 PM (5H6zj)

371 Seven % and smokey sounds like the West Texas weather my mom put up with for so long b4 moving. I'm just Vlad it's "only" 38% here while 98 degrees

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 01:20 PM (SUKHu)

372 40 You who Roberts's complete ass-wiping of the Constitution benefits? Mitt Romney. ..but mittens is the wrong guy for the job! DUMP MITTENS NOW!

Posted by: NoMittens at June 30, 2012 01:20 PM (elHhH)

373 Sigh.

Posted by: Mama Vlad on phone at June 30, 2012 01:21 PM (SUKHu)

374

Posted by: Pecos at June 30, 2012 05:19 PM (2Gb0y)

I ordered the chimichanga.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 01:22 PM (hztk+)

375

Sigh.

Posted by: Mama Vlad on phone at June 30, 2012 05:21 PM (SUKHu)

Damn tiny keyboard, huh?

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 01:22 PM (BNKav)

376 Ya'll try this one: asqueroaasquetoso.

Aerosquatch.

Posted by: fluffy, Yankee by osmosis at June 30, 2012 01:23 PM (z9HTb)

377 My understanding from the natives is that this is an unusually dry and hot summer. It definitely started getting hot earlier than it did last year. In general, though, I can't complain about the weather here. It's gorgeous. Snow is not too heavy, winters are really not too cold, fairly sunny (although I would be greedy for more), and usually there are canyon breezes to cool things during the heat waves.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 01:23 PM (5H6zj)

378

Temp here is 91 with a dewpoint of 63.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 05:12 PM (BNKav)

Damn. That sounds steamy.

It's only 97 here today, 30% humidity....which is not as bad as it has been lately, temp-wise.

But with no power....no a/c....anything above 85 degrees is uncomfortable.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 01:23 PM (MbB0O)

379 Nobody in the base is going to pay any attention to the transportation bill. And I'm still fully committed to reducing the size and scope of the federal government next year. Goddam, are you completely clueless as to how this game is played?

Posted by: John "Studly" Boehner at June 30, 2012 01:24 PM (IoNBC)

380 Even with the temps > 100Â° here the last couple of days this June is still 8Â° lower than last June.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 01:24 PM (YdQQY)

381 lol
Better get ready. Obama invited all his sicorio buddies to Come On Over.

Posted by: Pecos at June 30, 2012 01:24 PM (2Gb0y)

382 I'm with you, Studster. Fuck the base.

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at June 30, 2012 01:26 PM (IoNBC)

383 369-

Kings are big right now, but lots of restrictions. The gummint is telling all the native villages they can't fish for 'em. The natives are askin' "the fuck we gonna eat this winter, then?" the elders are saying "fish anyway".

Reds are going big time in some places. Not sure bout Silvers. Later, I think.

Sounds like you know AK and/or your fishies.

But no. I don't like salmon. I seek trout, dolly varden or grayling...on dry flies...then I let them go. <hangs head>

Posted by: Alaskan Warthog at June 30, 2012 01:27 PM (PKNoF)

384 It's it getting squatchy in here or is it just me?

Posted by: John 'Leeeroy' Roberts [/i] [/b] at June 30, 2012 01:27 PM (famk3)

385 Time to scare up some grub and feed this poor cat who is sitting at my feet staring at me.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 01:28 PM (YdQQY)

386 Man, last summer my a/c was out and I was taking cold baths/showers every two hours, even soaking my clothes before I wore them. (Clothes in the freezer doesn't work too well -- they're back to room temp in seconds.) Tried sleeping in the tub but wasn't too comfy. This summer the Men's Lodge is Ice Station Zebra.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2012 01:29 PM (8E1X2)

387 Take care, Vic. Hope you and the missus are doing ok.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 01:29 PM (5H6zj)

388 #283

You're an old, angry putz. Hike up your pants until they're under your armpits and go yell at the neighborhood kidz to quiet down.

Sincerely,
Navin R Johnson
40 y/o BMX'er

Posted by: Baracky-O at June 30, 2012 01:31 PM (HpT9p)

389

Posted by: Alaskan Warthog at June 30, 2012 05:27 PM (PKNoF)

good for you. pegging beads for rainbows is teh ghey.

I'm in Montana. Feed them dry flies almost exclusively...though I do like to reef on the big tailwater fishies once or twice a year on the micro-nymphs. Too much fun catching 26-30" fish on size 18 midge pupae!

I guess Silvers probably aren't around until late July on most rivers...

always wanted to get up there to fish for Steelhead and to shoot a Moose and/or Caribou.

Mmmm...caribou.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 01:31 PM (hztk+)

390

But with no power....no a/c....anything above 85 degrees is uncomfortable.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 05:23 PM (MbB0O)

Yep. There really is something to the "it's a dry heat!" thing.

It hit 101 here with low humidity last Thursday and it was really friggin hot but it wasn't nearly as bad as today.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 01:32 PM (BNKav)

391 >>396 Man, last summer my a/c was out and I >>was taking cold baths/showers every two hours, I feel your pain. When we were first married we lived without air conditioning in Chicago and later in Boston. Actually, come to think of it, we lived without it until Houston, so that'd be the first 10 years we were married. We did the cold shower trick, but if it's humid, it doesn't really work. >>This summer the Men's Lodge is Ice Station Zebra. LOL, Ice Station Zebra has been a punch-line in Casa Y-not for years!

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 01:32 PM (5H6zj)

392 This thread has that not-so-fresh feeling.

Posted by: Y-not, Perry supporter and Romney donor at June 30, 2012 01:33 PM (5H6zj)

393 Swimming trials on tonight.

Posted by: Mama Vlad on phone at June 30, 2012 01:34 PM (SUKHu)

394 @391: It's your turn to be the older white man tonight, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Caliph Barry I at June 30, 2012 01:34 PM (tqwMN)

395 It was Vlad who wasn't fresh.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 01:37 PM (SUKHu)

396

What if Roberts was....threatened.

I remember the look on his face, during the State of the Union address, when Barky was attacking the Supremes.

He should've been pissed.

But he didn't look pissed....he looked....pale.

We've got a Chicago thug in the White House.

Just sayin....if Roberts' felt his family was in danger, who knows.

Posted by: yeah, I went there.... at June 30, 2012 01:38 PM (MbB0O)

397 While the country's going down the toilet, I just want to remind everybody of one thing: I was absolutely right about Afghanistan.

Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld at June 30, 2012 01:39 PM (IoNBC)

398 It is kinda funny that Glenn's new book about cowardice just came out right before Roberts' stunt.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 30, 2012 01:39 PM (x8mAx)

399 I'm just Vlad it's "only" 38% here while 98 degrees

Anything over 50% and somebody gets impaled.

Posted by: fluffy, damn Yankee at June 30, 2012 01:41 PM (z9HTb)

400 article: The night Sandusky was led away in handcuffs, Penn State issued a statement calling for healing. So did the family of Joe Paterno.

By all means, let's start the healing.... for Penn State and the Paterno family.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 01:42 PM (piMMO)

401 Is this the chess thread?/

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at June 30, 2012 01:43 PM (Ho2rs)

402 Sometimes prophetic wisdom comes from unlikely or unexpected sources. Remember when I ran as an independent and said, "The Democrat and Republican parties are two peas in a pod?" I stand vindicated.

Posted by: Zombie George Wallace at June 30, 2012 01:46 PM (IoNBC)

403 Is this the chess thread?

Do you want it to be?

_Nf3

Posted by: fluffy, geek at June 30, 2012 01:46 PM (z9HTb)

404 400-Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 05:31 PM (hztk+)

Purdy good fishing to nail such big fish on such a small bug. Trout are weird up here. On one hand, you could cut the air with a knife; the bugs are so thick in the spring. You'd think the trout would be keyed on them. Nope. AK trout eat salmon eggs and dead salmon. I've caught more trout in Utah than here, fer catsake. Montana is where all the good flyfishermen go when they die. You're lucky.

Please come shoot moose. There are over 1000 within the Anchorage city limits. All protected, for obvious reasons (you can't hunt 'em with a shotgun). They keep attacking and stomping kids for some reason, tho a guy was killed on the UAA campus 10+ years ago. Anyway, they need thinning.

A black bear cub ran right thru the middle of us a few weeks ago, again right on the UAA campus.

Anyway, I'm really going. Take care.

Posted by: Alaskan Warthog at June 30, 2012 01:46 PM (PKNoF)

405

By all means, let's start the healing.... for Penn State and the Paterno family.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 05:42 PM (piMMO)

State College deserves what it gets and I'm predicting it will be a ghost town in just a few years.

Posted by: ErikW at June 30, 2012 01:47 PM (BNKav)

406

Roberts said, "You get rid of it", and that's the hell of it, isn't it?

Posted by: Meremortal at June 30, 2012 01:47 PM (Usk3+)

407 LOL fluffy. And my daughter wanted to know why I LOL ed and I had to go to wiki and read to her. I was told there'd be no teaching here...

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 01:48 PM (SUKHu)

408 Remember me? I said both parties had been captured by crony capitalism. Now I do reality shows.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at June 30, 2012 01:49 PM (IoNBC)

409 Yeah, that was wicked. The wind was incredible...had a giant walnut tree uprooted in my yard that missed falling into the house by just a few feet. Whew.

Posted by: Chris at June 30, 2012 01:50 PM (HJnSy)

410

418
Roberts said, "You get rid of it", and that's the hell of it, isn't it?

He may have been trying to be Solomon-esque.

But instead, what he did was cut the baby in half.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 01:50 PM (MbB0O)

411 So ... highway bill. Does it build any new, you know, highways? Do we even do that anymore? Biggest news I'm seeing is that the Phoenix-Vegas corridor (US-93) got labelled a potential future interstate so might someday get funding to upgrade the highway someday. Maybe. Why can't we just build shit anymore. Just build some fucking highways. And bridges. Speaking of DC. How about somebody build another fucking bridge across the fucking Potomac River? There's several million people now on each side of the river far past the beltway. Using the beltway to cross is really inconvenient and parking-lot-y.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 01:51 PM (ZPrif)

412

I saw the derecho move across Lake Michigan from my office - it was freaky, and doom-y, and moving fast.

Prayers for all those affected by the storm.

Posted by: Gem at June 30, 2012 01:51 PM (zw+pb)

413 Can I haz comments here?

Posted by: Hrolf at June 30, 2012 01:52 PM (1jcVG)

414 Any chance that derecho took me back from Oz to a land where CJ Roberts didnt join with the liberals to screw us, or do I need to click my heels.

Posted by: Jean at June 30, 2012 01:52 PM (Pvjul)

415 >>or do I need to click my heels Drink this.

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 01:56 PM (5H6zj)

416 Click heels, drink heavily...personal choice, man.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 01:56 PM (SUKHu)

417 or do I need to click my heels. Yeah, click your heels and hope we'll fix it next year. We're always going to fix it next year.

Posted by: John "Studly" Boehner at June 30, 2012 01:57 PM (IoNBC)

418

Biggest news I'm seeing is that the Phoenix-Vegas corridor (US-93) got labelled a potential future interstate so might someday get funding to upgrade the highway someday. Maybe.

Otherwise known as the 'Death Road'.

It'll be nice for the Cartels to be able to move their product with more efficiency...Honestly, though, it'd be a shame to lose 93 as a state road that runs from border to border. It's way more scenic thatn route 66 ever was.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 01:58 PM (hztk+)

419

Part of that giant Stimulus bill of 2009 was supposed to be spent on Highways.

You know.....'shovel ready jobs'?

No now, these dickheads in the Senate are appropriating more money....to do what the previous money was 'supposed to do'.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 01:59 PM (MbB0O)

420 Why "death road"? Heat? Narco-gangs?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 01:59 PM (ZPrif)

421 You know what's weird? I didn't see ANY celebrating or commenting from any of my (primarily lib) friends on FB. Not a peep.

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 01:59 PM (5H6zj)

422 Wow Chris, I'm glad it missed

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 01:59 PM (SUKHu)

423 Part of that giant Stimulus bill of 2009was supposed to be spent on Highways. You know.....'shovel ready jobs'? Now that's just not fair. 2009 was a long time ago and criticizing the results pre-empts our ability to fix it next year. We'll fix it next year. Promise.

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at June 30, 2012 02:01 PM (IoNBC)

424

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 05:59 PM (ZPrif)

From Phoenix to the junction with I 40...mostly between Wickiup and Kingman it's lined with crosses.

Heavy truck traffic, sketchy passing lanes and fire water = 'Death Road'.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2012 02:01 PM (hztk+)

425 I understand it's often (typically?) a waste of money, these giant infrastructure programs. But at least you have something afterwards. You can say, wow, there's a giant highway in the middle of the desert. That's something. Probably not the best something. But still, a something. It wasn't here before and now ... there it is.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 02:01 PM (ZPrif)

426 Part of that giant Stimulus bill of 2009was supposed to be spent on Highways. You know.....'shovel ready jobs'? ----- I'm not sure if Utah took all of the stimulus money they could have taken (I think we may have passed on some money earmarked for education), but they sure did take - and use - the roads money. All of our roads are under construction, mostly good stuff, too, like making more lanes.

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 02:02 PM (5H6zj)

427 Y-not they are totally busy donating much more money than Romney got.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 02:03 PM (SUKHu)

428 I kinda like the name.....because it gets the idea out there, that Mother Earth has been killing off us puny humans....long before the liberals figured out a way to use this phenomenon for their own propaganda.

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Now, now. You know it's just outright speculation that Krakatoa erupted organically, and through no fault of our own.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 02:04 PM (piMMO)

429

@433

Celebrating what, Y-not? ....The SC ruling?

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 02:04 PM (MbB0O)

430 439 Y-not they are totally busy donating much more money than Romney got. ------ LOL. Well one of them, who is a lovely person (but dumb politically), is also about to have a baby. It was so tempting to send her a receipt from Obama's campaign instead of the baby gifts... but we really do love her so I just couldn't do it.

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 02:05 PM (5H6zj)

431 This is what I have found to be the "Highway Bill they recently passed:

HR-7: American Energy and Infrastructure Jobs Act of 2012

It was introduced by FL DIABLO Mica. It hs a lot of shit in it having nothing to with highways like this little tid-bit they are adding to further federalize DUI for MADD

Amends the federal-aid highway program to modify the minimum penalties states are required to impose on motorists convicted multiple times for driving while intoxicated or under the influence of alcohol.

This is blatantly unconstitutional but it is probably a tax. They dropped the Keystone pipeline and "won" a bag of magic beans and the right to fart in our general direction.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 02:05 PM (YdQQY)

432 Yeah, sorry wheatie, the SCOTUS ruling. I'm out of it.

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 02:05 PM (5H6zj)

433 @436 Ah, good to know. Never driven it. Supposedly Phoenix and Vegas are the two largest neighboring cities without a direct interstate connection. Which seems a good enough reason to connect them. Two big cities near each other. Build a goddamn interstate highway between em. They finally built the Hoover Dam bypass. So that's one bottleneck out of the way.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 02:05 PM (ZPrif)

434 Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 06:02 PM (5H6zj)

Actually the state of Utah paid for all of the road construction going on with the 1-15 core project. No stimulus there.

Posted by: Brenden at June 30, 2012 02:06 PM (wa+SP)

435 Part of that giant Stimulus bill of 2009was supposed to be spent on Highways.
You know.....'shovel ready jobs'?

Very little of that stimulus money went to real infrastructure. Most of it went to inner city schools and other socialist projects.

They talked a lot about bull shit shovel ready projects, but like everything this administration does it was all talk.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 02:07 PM (YdQQY)

436 I dunno if I'd call Vegas and Phoenix neighboring cities. You know what's a pain to get to from here in Utah? Washington state. PITA. I want to go up there to see some friends and it looks like it'll be kind of a hassle to drive it.

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 02:07 PM (5H6zj)

437 @446 Are you sure, Brenden? http://www.wattscookinblog.com/2010/08/utah-benefits-big-time-from-stimulus-money-tax-cuts/ By TONY SEMERAD The Salt Lake Tribune August 14, 2010 10:26PM The amount of federal stimulus cash pumped into Utah by the controversial American Recovery and Reinvestment Act has now surpassed the $3 billion mark in spending and as much as another $1.5 billion in tax cuts. Spending alone Â— on education, business and student loans, road and infrastructure construction, energy projects, and expansion of existing social welfare programs like jobless assistance and food stamps Â— has pushed UtahÂ’s benefit from the stimulus to $1,110 per resident, according to data newly compiled by the nonprofit investigative journalism website ProPublica.org. That puts Utah slightly below the national per capita average of $1,170.

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 02:09 PM (5H6zj)

438 433 You know what's weird? I didn't see ANY celebrating or commenting from any of my (primarily lib) friends on FB. Not a peep.

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Same here.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 30, 2012 02:09 PM (1c58W)

439 More Utah ARRA: http://www.recovery.utah.gov/ "he American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) was passed in February 2009 with the intent to stimulate the economy through strategic and significant investment. Early projections estimate Utah will receive up to $1.6 billion in direct funding. Utah is committed to responsible, accountable, and transparent distribution and use of these funds."

Posted by: Y-not, grinning at June 30, 2012 02:10 PM (5H6zj)

440 Doing reality TV isn't so bad, once you get used to it.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at June 30, 2012 02:10 PM (IoNBC)

441 One of the other things HR-7 does is allow States to convert freeways to toll roads. Goodbye I-95.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 02:10 PM (YdQQY)

442 I've always found this ARRA stuff very confusing, so maybe it is being used differently than I thought, but I'm pretty sure Utah took ARRA money and used much of it on infrastructure.

Posted by: Y-not at June 30, 2012 02:11 PM (5H6zj)

443 When they take my tax money it's always cops, firefighters, and teachers. But when they hand out my tax money it's always to some fat bureaucrat I've never heard of in one of those expensive ergonomic office chairs working 35 hours a week tops, taking 6 weeks of vacation and early retirement.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 02:11 PM (ZPrif)

444 Maybe some of the liberals are sobered by hearing that their 'Free Healthcare' is really going to be a Tax.

Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 02:12 PM (MbB0O)

445 Here is a summary of the bill. It will make you puke and this is the House which is controlled by the Republicans:

http://is.gd/gzzREK

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 02:13 PM (YdQQY)

446 @458 That or they realize what a political albatross Obama's "victory" is. But it is very weird. Several of my friends are pretty political, but nothing at all about the ruling.

Posted by: Y-not at June 30, 2012 02:14 PM (5H6zj)

447 Ok, since reading about this, I've read that Derecho means, right, left and straight. Not in my world, Bubbie.

Posted by: Bawney "Beans-n-" Frank at June 30, 2012 02:14 PM (3sZO1)

448 They did, but not when it comes to I-15. That specific project is all paid for by Utah. The other crap they're doing all over the state could very well be stimulus funds. But not the I-15 core project. They had been planning this stuff since before there was talk of a stimulus.

Posted by: Brenden at June 30, 2012 02:14 PM (wa+SP)

449 Well, by neighboring I guess it's just if you draw a line between Vegas and Phoenix there isn't any other big city that gets in the way. Vegas doesn't really "neighbor" anybody being in the middle of nowhere.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2012 02:14 PM (ZPrif)

450 Check this part out:

Revises the formula for the apportionment to states of highway safety funds to require specified percentages of funds going only to states that have enacted and are enforcing: (1) a primary safety belt use law, (2) an ignition interlock law, and (3) a graduated drivers licensing law.

Roberts just said this was unconstitutional.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 02:15 PM (YdQQY)

451 458 Maybe some of the liberals are sobered by hearing that their 'Free Healthcare' is really going to be a Tax. Posted by: wheatie at June 30, 2012 06:12 PM (MbB0O) This won't bother them in the least. When it seems better to call it a mandate, then it's a mandate. When it seems better to call it a tax, then it's a tax. They don't fucking care.

Posted by: Scobface at June 30, 2012 02:15 PM (IoNBC)

452 448 You know what's a pain to get to from here in Utah? Washington state. PITA.

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It's not bad, just a long, long drive. I-15 up to I-84 then out across Idaho. I-82 through Umatilla and Yakima takes you up to I-90 and over to Seattle.

Have a friend that used to live in Seattle. Went up to Bumbershoot a few times.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 30, 2012 02:15 PM (1c58W)

453 New post up

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2012 02:17 PM (YdQQY)

454 All you bitches are sweating your asses off while I'm in the White House sucking down a mint julep... and Reggie is feeing me Grapes while I'm reclining on the Chaise Lounge in the Lincoln Bedroom...

Suck on that...

Posted by: Choomer in Chief at June 30, 2012 02:17 PM (Jls4P)

455 460@458
That or they realize what a political albatross Obama's "victory" is.

But it is very weird. Several of my friends are pretty political, but nothing at all about the ruling.

Posted by: Y-not at June 30, 2012 06:14 PM (5H6zj)

;;;;

Yep, they've been pretty quiet. I've had one guy post a couple of things on fb that indicate he's worried about the blowback, trying to defend the bill. I haven't bothered to read them. Why not just celebrate? Something is up with that.

Posted by: Meremortal at June 30, 2012 02:17 PM (Usk3+)

456 Well I guess that proves Roberts is a genius.

Posted by: Mama AJ on phone at June 30, 2012 02:18 PM (SUKHu)

457 >>462 They did, but not when it comes to I-15. OK. We were crossed up. I don't think I specified I-15.

Posted by: Y-not at June 30, 2012 02:18 PM (5H6zj)

458 I've always found this ARRA stuff very confusing, so maybe it is being used differently than I thought, but I'm pretty sure Utah took ARRA money and used much of it on infrastructure. I'm seeing ARRA, I'm reading ABBA. Now I have Fernando stuck on autoplay in my head. Thanks.

Posted by: BillH at June 30, 2012 02:19 PM (3sZO1)

459 Well, time to get cleaned up for my date with the man. It's my last time to go out with a guy in his 40s!

Posted by: Y-not at June 30, 2012 02:19 PM (5H6zj)

460 (1) a primary safety belt use law, Yep. I remember how the state of Alabama originally justified a seat belt law. They said you'd never be stopped just for not wearing a seat belt. If you were stopped for something else and you weren't wearing a seat belt, the maximum fine would be $10. None of that applied when I was stopped two years later for not wearing a seat belt. And I was wearing my fucking seat belt.

Posted by: Scobface at June 30, 2012 02:20 PM (IoNBC)

461

Posted by: Scobface at June 30, 2012 06:20 PM (IoNBC)

No seatbelt for me!

Posted by: Guy on Motorcycle Driving By While You Were Stopped at June 30, 2012 02:23 PM (hztk+)

462 Someone NOT HAPPY with our fools in DC!
Unleash the derecho NOW,
Unleash the Tea Party in NOV!
Throw the bums out with extreme prejudice!

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at June 30, 2012 02:56 PM (nonzP)

463 I'm seeing ARRA, I'm reading ABBA. Now I have Fernando stuck on autoplay in my head. Thanks.

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This should help.

http://bit.ly/vVjO1u

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2012 03:14 PM (piMMO)

464 You need to be VERY CLEAR that what they call "critical thinking" education in schools is based on critical theory, i.e. leftist socialism. It has absolutely nothing to do with carefully studying and weighing both sides of an issue. Absolutely nothing. Basically it's just an excuse to make the kids read Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky and watch An Inconvenient Truth.

Posted by: DAve at June 30, 2012 03:15 PM (h+/7G)

465 this afternoon I heard there were 4 deaths in 5CD Va. 2 in Albemarle, 2 in Bedford. 90 mph winds recorded in Bon Air (Richmond) Va. wild

Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 30, 2012 03:16 PM (p3a8+)

466 The storm woke me up. Now we wait for BGE to restore our power. The lines at gas stations are eerie and the behavior of people here in PG County restores my home in absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Vivian Louise at June 30, 2012 04:43 PM (uis45)

467 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 30, 2012 05:51 PM (Xb3hu)

468 3 Baltimore: The VIA household sets in an electrical oasis of about 4 blocks, surrounded by lack of power, and downed trees. I'm off Providence Rd. sitting in a hot, dark house, looking across the street at houses with power. I hate you.