July 16, 2012
— Ace Mark Thiessen:
ere is the state of the presidential race in a nutshell: The Obama campaign charges that Mitt Romney might have committed a felony by misrepresenting his position at Bain Capital to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Outraged, Romney fires off this response:“He sure as heck ought to say he’s sorry.”
Ward Cleaver, call your office.
Not surprisingly, President Obama brushed off RomneyÂ’s request and continued to hammer him over the weekend. Obama is playing by the brass-knuckle rules of Chicago politics. Rather than calling for apologies, Romney needs grab a bottle, break it on the bar and start fighting back.
This may not come naturally to Romney, but we know he can do it.
I think it does come naturally to Romney. I think he likes going for the throat. But I think he's wary of coming off as "the bad guy."
I don't mind this slow-to-anger posture. I believe (my speculation) this is his way of preparing the ground -- noting the justification -- for what comes after.
Thiessen notes, by the way, that the race should not be a tie:
Obama is coming off of the worst three months of an incumbent president during an election year in recent memory... Three months ago, Gallup had Romney with a five-point lead over the president; today, they are at 46-46.Framed this way, the picture for Romney does not look so pretty.
No, not framed that way. But as I keep saying, I think the underlying structure of this race favors Romney. Polls will say what they say. The basic circumstances of this country are not changing for the better.
On Fox&Friends, Romney ripped Obama for running a fundamentally dishonest campaign -- one that might work in "Chicago," but not in "America" -- and added:
“If we want to talk about transparency, the real issue is, why has this president used his presidential power and executive privilege to keep the information about the Fast and Furious program from being explained to the American people?"
We'll see. I believe Romney will go after Obama with the tongs; but he'd prefer not to, for both political and personal reasons. But now that he's gotten a taste of Chicago politics, I think he's weighing when he's made enough of a case against Obama's negative campaign that he can start hitting him hard in return.
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If the polls say O's tied, he's really losing by 5
Posted by: The Q at July 16, 2012 12:52 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: runningrn tapping into her Asian roots at July 16, 2012 12:54 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: Dave C at July 16, 2012 12:55 PM (whLzD)
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I guess I never could understand this line of thinking. Obama is the fuckface of the century in presidential election politics. Bad guy extraordinaire. Yet our side is always, seemingly, afraid of being the bad guy. W.T.F. I think it's time for some "cordial" scorched earth and beat back at this liar Chicago thug prick. Why would Mittens think of himself as a bad guy for pointing out the truth?
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2012 12:55 PM (mn2zp)
That means that the pie is getting smaller for all Americans, and no amount of lying from Obama can change that.
It is the message that needs to get out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 16, 2012 12:55 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 16, 2012 12:55 PM (mFxQX)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 12:55 PM (kXoT0)
PREDICTION: If Romney names a VP before going on his Europe/Israel trip, he is naming Pawlenty. Only TPaw has the experience to start off campaigning solo (and they're not both going); everyone else might look wobbly starting to campagin with Romney in Europe/Israel
Posted by: @ParisParamus at July 16, 2012 12:56 PM (kPrc5)
Posted by: Chique d'afrique on her iPhone at July 16, 2012 12:56 PM (m95KA)
quick hit commercial....
Show the US Law where using someone elses Social Security number is identity theft, and a felony.
Show Obamas PUBLISHED Social Security Number... and show where it was from....
Then... "Do you really want to talk about FELONYS?"
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 16, 2012 12:57 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Y-not at July 16, 2012 12:57 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: gp at July 16, 2012 12:57 PM (mk9aG)
'Did you see those nudie pics of Stanley Ann Dunham? Thanks to them, I'm back on carbs and still dropping weight.'
Posted by: Things I'd like to hear from Mittens at July 16, 2012 12:58 PM (cHeYs)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 16, 2012 04:55 PM (nEUpB)
And 4% Official.... and close to 7% REAL inflation....
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 16, 2012 12:58 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: MJ at July 16, 2012 01:00 PM (TR60b)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 16, 2012 01:00 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: navybrat at July 16, 2012 01:00 PM (+2lbb)
Posted by: Things I'd like to hear from Mittens at July 16, 2012 01:01 PM (cHeYs)
Posted by: Y-not at July 16, 2012 01:01 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: MJ at July 16, 2012 01:02 PM (TR60b)
Mitt wants to win as much as you want him to win. He'll do what he has to to do...at the right time.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:02 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: JeffC at July 16, 2012 01:02 PM (hYYqD)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 01:03 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: navybrat at July 16, 2012 05:00 PM (+2lbb)
lolz
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 01:03 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 16, 2012 01:04 PM (SNX0o)
USE THE TOOLS LAID OUT BEFORE YOU........geez.
Posted by: © Sponge at July 16, 2012 01:04 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:04 PM (0LX7P)
Obama is trailing by at least 2 touchdowns, and it's late in the 2nd quarter. He's throwing bombs into the end zone. Romney is swatting them down.
Do you really think it's necessary to panic? Does Romney need to start throwing his own Hail Mary passes into the end zone?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2012 01:04 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Chique d'afrique on her iPhone at July 16, 2012 01:05 PM (iO3BG)
Posted by: Things I'd like to hear from Mittens at July 16, 2012 01:05 PM (cHeYs)
If the polls say O's tied, he's really losing by 5"
Geraghty's number cruncher has also run the numbers against the polls internals and says Obama is losing by 5. The Dem over sample is distorting the RCP average.
And I'm convinced that guy is real. I'm starting to think it is Carvel. Too many things, like this poll nonsense, have turned out to be correct.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 16, 2012 01:05 PM (JxIkO)
Posted by: MJ at July 16, 2012 01:05 PM (TR60b)
Posted by: Rahm Emmanuel at July 16, 2012 01:06 PM (0LX7P)
Hmmm.... one tactic Romney 'could' use....
"Mr. President, if your surrogates think I am a Felon, I WELCOME an investigation by the Justice Department... it would be fun to see Eric Holder actualy do his Job for once...."
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 16, 2012 01:06 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Things I'd like to hear from Mittens at July 16, 2012 01:06 PM (cHeYs)
Team O is a target rich environment for Team R. So far I think Mitt's campaign has done a good job with their ads and responses.
But I believe that they really should start hammering hard. Shit Toonces gives them daily material.
Posted by: Cheri at July 16, 2012 01:06 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Y-not at July 16, 2012 01:06 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:07 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 01:07 PM (eX3h/)
And I'm convinced that guy is real. I'm starting to think it is Carvel. Too many things, like this poll nonsense, have turned out to be correct.
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Kudlow thinks that Carville, Bubba and Hill are going to vote for Romney.
Posted by: kallisto at July 16, 2012 01:07 PM (jm/9g)
Look at it this way:
Who looks like a nasty negative smear merchant, Obama or Romney?
Let Obama keep running his big mouth, playing to his crowds of lazy moochers. It's shitty optics and Romney is taking advantage of it.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:08 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: David Farragut at July 16, 2012 01:08 PM (KZI7g)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 01:08 PM (WomN7)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:08 PM (0LX7P)
....campagin with Romney in Europe/Israel
Posted by: @ParisParamus
Now about that strategy of campaigning on the other side of the planet instead of -- say Florida....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2012 01:08 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 16, 2012 01:08 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: the real David Farragut at July 16, 2012 01:08 PM (evdj2)
FWIW, there are plenty of former Democrats who are starting to sound the "Romney for President" charge. This is a fantastic post from one such voter (who just started a FB page "Romney Democrats"):
I am done being cowed, and I am finished holding my tongue. I have every right to say what I think wherever I feel like saying it. And I will be putting my new Moms for Mitt decal on my car and talking about how I think Mitt Romney is the moderate with the right business acumen we need in America at this time, that he will address the trifecta of issues that will dominate the political landscape in 2012: jobs, the economy, and deficits/debt. Buying that decal last Friday was a small step in that direction, but Davis has now given me the courage to go out and make it happen elsewhere. I donÂ’t care who it alienates. I care about getting this country back on the right track. And that is worth the risk.
I am no longer satisfied with my seat under the bus. Like Rosa Parks, I will now ride it to right it.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 16, 2012 01:09 PM (P6H+d)
I have a hard time seeing how much of anyone (regular people) is paying attention right now in the midst of summer vacation,
i'm paying attention because i don't have any friggin' money to spare for a vaction.
Posted by: ordinary average guy at July 16, 2012 01:10 PM (xCxXI)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 01:10 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 05:07 PM (eX3h/)
Now look at the sampling of the parties....
And understand that 3% is probably within the Margin of Error...
Those States all will hing on turnout....
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 16, 2012 01:10 PM (lZBBB)
So then these rumors I keep hearing about a White House Choom Room are probably true then.
Posted by: The Upcoming Mittens ver 5.0 Firmware Upgrade at July 16, 2012 01:10 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:10 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: JeffP at July 16, 2012 01:10 PM (fjG2G)
Posted by: polynikes at July 16, 2012 01:11 PM (qBtUE)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 16, 2012 01:11 PM (rPbKT)
Mitt wants to win as much as you want him to win. He'll do what he has to to do...at the right time.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 05:02 PM (9Q7Nu)"
Yeah, Mitt doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who wants to say "I ran for President".
He does seem a little surprised by the level of mendacity coming from the Obama team, though, which is disappointing because if he'd been paying attention the last 3+ years, you'd think he'd know the depths to which they are capable of sinking.
Posted by: BS Inc. at July 16, 2012 01:11 PM (P2Ufm)
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at July 16, 2012 01:11 PM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:11 PM (kXoT0)
Just leave out the spaces. I don't know how to use tinyurl.
Posted by: Lee at July 16, 2012 01:12 PM (RtwOA)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:12 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:12 PM (0LX7P)
Another Greg/Dr Smith troll with more worthless numbers
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 16, 2012 01:12 PM (1Jaio)
It should be a layup going after the SCOAMF. But the fact is Romney needs to hang onto his cash it's not even the home stretch yet and he is head to head w/Obama and being outspent big time.
Romney needs to counterattack and let Obama burn himself out.
This election reminds me of Ali's rop-a-dope.
Let Obama punch himself out and clean him up in the late rounds.
Posted by: Finn McCool at July 16, 2012 01:12 PM (R/8dI)
What we would really like is for Mitt to call Obama a lying dog-eating motherfucker but that is not going to happen, gosh darn it.
FIFY.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 16, 2012 01:13 PM (P97YV)
The racist dogwhistling drips from your every syllable. I suppose next you'll be dropping in the word "kitchen."
Posted by: Mark Thompson, MSNBC Cultural Analyst at July 16, 2012 01:13 PM (QKKT0)
But now that he's gotten a taste of Chicago politics, I think he's weighing when he's made enough of a case against Obama's negative campaign that he can start hitting him hard in return.
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I sure hope so, Ace. I sure hope so. A lot of lazy, government-kept, uneducated people out there. Yeah.......I sure hope so.
Posted by: Soona at July 16, 2012 01:14 PM (KQuZj)
None of the vote totals add up to 100%, in fact they range from 89 to 90%. With his approval rating at around a 45% average, Obamawill get slaughtered unless something changes.
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 16, 2012 01:14 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 01:14 PM (Xa2if)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:14 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:14 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 01:14 PM (tw6Ar)
my soothsayer instincts tell me that Mitt has no respect for Obama whatsoever and he thinks he's a punk
but he can't show his contempt for Obama so Mitt needs to play coy and then BAM!
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:15 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2012 01:15 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: toby928© Hash watcher at July 16, 2012 01:15 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Things I'd like to hear from Mittens at July 16, 2012 01:15 PM (cHeYs)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 01:16 PM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 01:16 PM (+nx7V)
Posted by: The Upcoming Mittens ver 5.0 Firmware Upgrade at July 16, 2012 01:16 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: toby928© Hash watcher at July 16, 2012 01:17 PM (evdj2)
Holyfuckingshit. I'm still fuming over his statist manifesto speech in Roanoke, VA. Good lord, Mittster... go get him!
Posted by: Pipe Holder at July 16, 2012 01:17 PM (VTeUD)
Hopefully he is holding fire until after Labor Day, when people start to pay attention.
Hopefully.
Posted by: PJ at July 16, 2012 01:17 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:17 PM (r2PLg)
I was skeptical of Romney in the primaries. I bought into this is the next establishment guy bullshit. That's what I think it is by the way.
I have known a lot of successful businessmen in my career and Romney is reminding me of the nice guys who could stick the stilleto in your ribs and smile and shake your had afterwords.
I bet he sleeps like a baby.
Posted by: Finn McCool at July 16, 2012 01:17 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:17 PM (0LX7P)
can't wait for Portman or Pawlenty to be named his running mate
Posted by: The Dude
Seriously? The prospect of Vice-President Pawlenty has you bouncing on the edge of your seat in excitement?
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2012 01:18 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 01:18 PM (jCQ+I)
With his approval ratings so low and the economy tanked all the late deciders will flee from the chosen one. Going by those polls Obama could lose in a landslide.
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 16, 2012 01:18 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 05:16 PM (jCQ+I)
Who shit!?!
Oh, hi Mary..
Posted by: © Sponge at July 16, 2012 01:18 PM (UK9cE)
88 -
Careful Mary, there are some real dunces running around this thread, you're likely to be mistaken for one of them.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 16, 2012 01:18 PM (TOk1P)
No need to explain the pollin, pollin, pollin'
Get them doggies a trollin'
STRAWGUY!
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 16, 2012 01:19 PM (fa39X)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at July 16, 2012 01:19 PM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 01:19 PM (jCQ+I)
I dunno. The way I see it, Mitt is the batter and Obama is throwing wild pitches.
Mitt's just taking his pitches one at a time...waiting. Eventually Mitt is gonna reach base.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:19 PM (9Q7Nu)
It's.....kind of ironic that Mark Thiessen is saying Mitt should go on the attack.
....Didn't Thiessen work for Bush?
You know....that guy Bush, who didn't exactly 'go on the attack' with his opponents.
But I agree with Theissen.....Romney does need to go for the jugular.
He should probably wait until he gets back from Israel and Europe, though.
Otherwise....it would be a sort of 'Hit and Run' kind of thing.
Romney cannot do any attacks on Barky while he is in other countries.
This would be a huge mistake.
I hope he knows that.
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 01:20 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 05:18 PM (jCQ+I)
So, you're a communist?
Posted by: © Sponge at July 16, 2012 01:20 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 16, 2012 01:20 PM (SNX0o)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 16, 2012 05:09 PM (P6H+d)
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Thanks for the link...went to her FB, it's a good peek into the mind of a centrist-indie-moderate type voter. The O-Holder Regime may finally have opened the eyes of some citizens as to what the modern Democrat party is made of.
Posted by: kallisto at July 16, 2012 01:20 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: redgrains at July 16, 2012 01:20 PM (TExGL)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:21 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2012 05:18 PM (kdS6q)
just have popcorn ready for the inevitable GOP-Conservative bonfire
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 01:21 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 01:21 PM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: MJ at July 16, 2012 01:21 PM (TR60b)
OK, SGT Dan. We'll call you "Below-Average Joe" instead.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 16, 2012 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)
and this impression of Mitt secretly being some sort of cut-throat is a fantasy, too
that's not Mitt Romney at all -- he is who he appears to be
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:22 PM (9Q7Nu)
I accuse you of being Sgt Dan, whoever that is.
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 16, 2012 01:22 PM (bb5Xq)
I must admit, the Sununu response was a bright, but fleeting, moment!
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at July 16, 2012 01:22 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: The Q at July 16, 2012 01:23 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:23 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2012 01:23 PM (C8mVl)
"Slow to boil" will work as long as the positioning in swing states doesn't get too far behind. Obama can spin but Romney has real life and real economics on his side. You really can't hide those truths even with the sycophantic MFM. Americans can see both Obama and the MFM pissing down their legs.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 16, 2012 01:23 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Poland at July 16, 2012 01:24 PM (cHeYs)
Posted by: Y-not at July 16, 2012 01:24 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 01:24 PM (Xa2if)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:24 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 01:24 PM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:24 PM (0LX7P)
This morning we lowered our tracking of Q2 GDP growth from 1.7% to 1.4%.
Goldman Sachs:
We revised down our Q2 GDP tracking estimate by two tenths to +1.1%.
Trolls better get their shine box. No re-election possible with these numbers.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 16, 2012 01:25 PM (fa39X)
114 For a guy who created Bane....
I think you mean...'Bain'.
'Bane' is the uber bad-waddie in the new Batman movie.
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 01:25 PM (MbB0O)
dragonfly if it's all so peachy why is Obama blowing a wad ton of campaign cash--now?
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 05:17 PM (r2PLg)
Cocaine is a hell of a drug!
Posted by: Obama's Eroded Septum at July 16, 2012 01:25 PM (O0YFa)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 01:25 PM (l5Jl8)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 05:19 PM (jCQ+I)
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Bullshit. You're not fooling us, AJ. Same goes for that dragonfly sock.
Posted by: Soona at July 16, 2012 01:25 PM (KQuZj)
if you read the email I posted from Kos earlier you'll see that the only plan they have right now is to smear Romney with lies with the assistance of their friends in the media
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:26 PM (9Q7Nu)
Obama is defining himself with theses attacks, that and his horrible economy.
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 16, 2012 01:26 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: toby928© pushes the tag at July 16, 2012 01:26 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: SGT Dan at July 16, 2012 01:26 PM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: dragonfly at July 16, 2012 01:27 PM (Xa2if)
Posted by: MJ, adopting Mitt's vocabulary at July 16, 2012 01:27 PM (TR60b)
Hopefully he is holding fire until after Labor Day, when people start to pay attention. Hopefully.
Posted by: PJ
Absentee ballots will be in voter's hand beginning of October or possibly end of September. Might not want to cut things so close.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 16, 2012 01:27 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:28 PM (r2PLg)
I like to think that Romney is saving the majority of his ammo for when he will get the most bang for his buck. The people that matter still aren't paying much attention.
Obama has a huge, ineffective campaign bureaucracy that's deficit-spending this time 'round. They're pissing away money like monkeys throwing poop - trying to find something that will stick, but Mitt Romney happens to be absurdly squeeky-clean. Hell, the biggest "fault" they've thrown at him is how wildly successful he's been!
Posted by: Optimizer at July 16, 2012 01:28 PM (As94z)
Posted by: Cornfed at July 16, 2012 01:28 PM (Hoy9u)
None of the vote totals add up to 100%, in fact they range from 89 to 90%. With his approval rating at around a 45% average, Obama will get slaughtered unless something changes.
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 16, 2012 01:28 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:29 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at July 16, 2012 01:29 PM (SDkq3)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:29 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: Mitt "Herbert Walker" Romney at July 16, 2012 01:29 PM (SwjAj)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 01:29 PM (0LX7P)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at July 16, 2012 05:24 PM (jCQ+I)
He's admitting that he's a communist with his quoting the Manifesto with every speech, so I'm guessing that means you're at minimum, a sympathizer.
Progressivism, or liberalism, or whatever you want to call it is pure evil to it's core. We believe in self-determination. You don't.
To quote a not so famous band (Course of Empire): "Earn your future, or perish with the land."
Your mindset will cause the land, and all those in it, to perish.
Tell me, Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT. What do you do when you run out of other people's money?
Posted by: © Sponge at July 16, 2012 01:30 PM (UK9cE)
A couple of weeks? The Morons will forget in a couple of minutes.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 16, 2012 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:30 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: crazy at July 16, 2012 01:31 PM (DymQ2)
So true.
They'll be arguing with the sock in this thread again in a few minutes. Oh wait, it's already happening.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:31 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:32 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at July 16, 2012 01:32 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:33 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:33 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Joe Biden at July 16, 2012 01:33 PM (GkwjL)
@119 I'm not saying Mitt is a secret cutthroat, I don't know if you're referring to what I posted or not, just want to put this out there.
Nobody becomes as successful as this guy without understanding what it takes to win.
He lost to John McCain I think he learned from that.
Posted by: Finn McCool at July 16, 2012 01:33 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: sunny black at July 16, 2012 05:29 PM (0LX7P)
In keeping with the latest directive, Romney couldn't have created Bain!
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at July 16, 2012 01:33 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:34 PM (r2PLg)
162....But it does raise an interesting point -- how soon before MSNBC's chyrons have 'Romney Created Bane'
Yep.
I don't believe for a second....that it was a mere 'coincidence' that the new Batman movie has an arch villian named.....'Bane'.
I really do hate Hollywood.
More than ever now.
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 01:34 PM (MbB0O)
When I was driving through Vermont for my graduation at Norwich last month, I drove past the Brattleboro exit. My wife had no idea why I was laughing so hard.
Posted by: SGT Dan at July 16, 2012 01:34 PM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:34 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 05:33 PM (9Q7Nu)
I'd hit it.
Posted by: © Sponge at July 16, 2012 01:35 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at July 16, 2012 01:35 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:35 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 05:34 PM (GkwjL)
I thought the brainy sister was cute....
Posted by: © Sponge at July 16, 2012 01:36 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:36 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at July 16, 2012 01:36 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: SGT Dan at July 16, 2012 01:36 PM (jCQ+I)
168 Mary Cloggenstein?
Posted by: charlie gibson at July 16, 2012 05:31 PM (evdj2)
I remember her, stand up Mary, let the morons see ya!
Posted by: Joe Biden at July 16, 2012 05:33 PM (GkwjL)
Sorry, I was on the shitter. What happened?
Posted by: Bob Schieffer at July 16, 2012 01:36 PM (O0YFa)
Posted by: Irony at July 16, 2012 01:36 PM (f8XyF)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at July 16, 2012 01:36 PM (qwK3S)
179.....In keeping with the latest directive, Romney couldn't have created Bain!
Excellent point, Hrothgar.
Brillian, even.
How can Barky and the Dems continue to rail against all those 'evil corporations'.....when it was their beloved Government which created them!
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 01:37 PM (MbB0O)
For sure. But I really believe Mitt is closer to a Boy Scout than to the jerks on Mad Men.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:37 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:37 PM (r2PLg)
She gets socked quite a bit, but unless someone went through the trouble of starting a blog, posting on multiple sites, and a Twitter account, she's real.
And very, very insane.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 16, 2012 01:37 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: MJ at July 16, 2012 01:37 PM (TR60b)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:37 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at July 16, 2012 01:38 PM (QxSug)
Fill the mitts with lead pellet filler, if you insist on wearing them, Mitt.
Posted by: Stuff Mitt's advisors should be saying at July 16, 2012 01:38 PM (NUCoY)
Who is this guy who died?
Jon Lord, the keyboard player. He was about the only other guy who could keep up with Keith Emerson during that era, IMO.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 16, 2012 01:38 PM (d0Tfm)
#183, and Bane was a Batman villain long before anyone heard of Mitt Romney. This one was in pre-production long before Romney was the nominee, so I'm prepared to call that coincidence and not liberal conspiracy.
Posted by: SGT Dan at July 16, 2012 01:38 PM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the tweets at July 16, 2012 01:38 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at July 16, 2012 01:38 PM (s/M75)
Posted by: ErikW at July 16, 2012 01:39 PM (O0YFa)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:39 PM (GkwjL)
@186 Maybe, Maybe not, I haven't forgotten what the atmosphere was in 08.
You don't really beleive these things are static do you?
This is not 08 the country was in full battle fatigue with the Republicans. That is much different than the current situation.
Posted by: Finn McCool at July 16, 2012 01:39 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:40 PM (r2PLg)
I think the argument is that it was no coincidence that MSNBC misspelled "Bain" as the Batman villain.
Posted by: The Q at July 16, 2012 01:40 PM (B/yDO)
Jon Lord, the keyboard player. He was about the only other guy who could keep up with Keith Emerson during that era
...Paice was the drummer. Why did I think he was a keyboardist?
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2012 01:40 PM (cHeYs)
When I was in-house security in Vegas, one of my jobs, of course, was to evict troublemakers and cheaters. One of the best tactics I used was to not say anything as I was escorting them to the exits.
They'd call me every name in the book once they were outside, and the longer I stayed silent, the angrier they got. A couple of them got so angry that they started threatening my life and everyone who worked at the casino.
That's when the casino manager would call Vegas metro. Mmmm...bye bye.
I'm thinking, perhaps, Mitt is using the same tactic.
Posted by: Soona at July 16, 2012 01:41 PM (KQuZj)
Posted by: t-bird at July 16, 2012 01:41 PM (FcR7P)
The cognitive dissonance, she is strong today!
Posted by: Hrothgar (CJSC Designated Serf) at July 16, 2012 01:41 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:41 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: nickless at July 16, 2012 01:41 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 16, 2012 05:39 PM (SY2Kh)
Hostess...though I hear Obama likes the 'Clerks' version, best.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2012 01:41 PM (cHeYs)
Posted by: MJ at July 16, 2012 01:42 PM (TR60b)
Sgt Dan...I was IN Brattleboro VT last month. Didn't see Mary but was only on town about 5 minutes....
From the outside, it looks like a normal little town.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 16, 2012 01:42 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Fritz at July 16, 2012 01:42 PM (02fNe)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:43 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 05:41 PM (GkwjL)
Bill Payne drinks BOTH their milkshakes.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2012 01:43 PM (cHeYs)
Posted by: Rich K at July 16, 2012 01:43 PM (X4l3T)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 16, 2012 01:43 PM (QIwAo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2012 01:43 PM (j1gX1)
I am still bugged at the idea that Weiner would even think about running for office again....
You know....if Andrew Breitbart were still alive, I don't think that Weiner would dare to run for...anything.
Someone had to say it.
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 01:43 PM (MbB0O)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:44 PM (kXoT0)
@200 I get your point but understand there is nothing wrong with having a squeaky clean personal life.
The dems would have eviserated him by now if he was a take no names, philandering, stereotypical businessman.
Look what they're trying now FELON.
Imagine if Donald Trump would have won we'd be fucked right now.
I'm just saying he shouldn't be underestimated, and what I've seen so far has me encouraged.
Not confident of a win but very encouraged.
Posted by: Finn McCool at July 16, 2012 01:44 PM (R/8dI)
Posted by: tasker at July 16, 2012 01:44 PM (r2PLg)
Whenever Greg shows up with his bogus polls and Obama "likability" bullshit, I know that the race is almost in the bag for Romney. This guy has been spectacularly wrong, in 2010, and all of the Wisconsin shenanigans.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 16, 2012 01:45 PM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:45 PM (GkwjL)
A drummer
*puts on sunglasses*
keeps the Paice.
YEEEEEAHHHHHHHH
Posted by: Horatio Caine at July 16, 2012 01:45 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Y-not at July 16, 2012 01:46 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 01:46 PM (YdQQY)
Old news. Obama's record since January 2009 is such a target rich environment that Mitt shouldn't be wasting a lot of effort on stuff the voters already proved willing to overlook the first time.
Demonizing Obama the man probably won't work, and could result in backlash. Skull fucking Obama's record- and perhaps characterizing it as the result of his inexperience- is more likely to resonate with voters.
What are people going to think if they see Romney rehashing dirt from 2008?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 16, 2012 01:46 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: jeanne at July 16, 2012 01:47 PM (GdalM)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2012 01:47 PM (j1gX1)
Yeah, we all know Mitt is more than capable of fighting nasty -- we all saw what a bully he was to Perry.
As for the polls, they are so padded by the biased polling outfits I laugh at them. Ulsterman's WHI said they're padded by 10. I am a little concerned that Ras finds Mitt up only 2... I'm hoping that Ras is finding it much bigger but since they're the only ones they don't want to be laughed at? LOL, mostly j/k. It's JULY is the better answer. Americans are lazing by the pool/beach and thinking of back-to-school for their kids.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 16, 2012 01:47 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at July 16, 2012 01:47 PM (QxSug)
Ya ever hear of Reggie Love?
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 01:47 PM (kXoT0)
I've despised the little Il Douche' from the get go, only assholes like him.
Posted by: DaveA at July 16, 2012 01:47 PM (yVsIQ)
I never liked Suzy Q's because of that -- you take a bite and all the filling would come out the sides.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:48 PM (9Q7Nu)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2012 01:48 PM (j1gX1)
First had to off-load it off the truck then carry in the house. Move all the furniture in the living room around. And then dismantle the old wore-out chair I had into component parts to haul to the dump.
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 01:49 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Yojimbo at July 16, 2012 01:49 PM (c9F8a)
Yeah, we all know Mitt is more than capable of fighting nasty -- we all saw what a bully he was to Perry.
Come on, now.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:49 PM (9Q7Nu)
remember FUNNY BONES?
they had peanut butter filling
I once ate my weight in Ideal Bars.
Oh, Keith Emerson = jazz. Rick Wakeman = classical. Both great, but KE was much faster. Seen them both live.
And Bill Payne is the shizznit.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 16, 2012 01:50 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: How About a Cup of Shut the Fuck Up? at July 16, 2012 01:50 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 01:51 PM (GkwjL)
Posted by: the neighborhood kids at July 16, 2012 01:51 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 01:52 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 16, 2012 01:52 PM (QIwAo)
Yes, and he should worry about that.
There is an asymmetry in how the campaigns are reported on in the media, and so there must be an asymmetry in how they behave.
Posted by: sandy burger at July 16, 2012 01:52 PM (6ClcK)
I thought they banned all the sheenies around here!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 16, 2012 01:53 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2012 01:53 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Dr Spank at July 16, 2012 01:53 PM (bb5Xq)
Posted by: toby928© at July 16, 2012 01:53 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 05:50 PM (9Q7Nu)
Yes, I did get the next door neighbor to help me carry the new one in. In my you8nger days I could carry a rocking recliner by myself. Done got old and puny now.
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 01:53 PM (YdQQY)
guys, gals, Mitt Romney knew he was gonna be the nominee since the day Obama won in 2008
Mitt wasn't even trying during the primaries.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 16, 2012 01:53 PM (9Q7Nu)
or....
Sucking cock: Average Joe's choice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 16, 2012 01:54 PM (nEUpB)
264 And on a side note I am beat to shit. Wifey wanted a new chair to sleep in because she isn't comfortable in a bed right now. ...
I was afraid of that sort of thing happening to ya, Vic.
Being a care-giver is exhausting....even without having to procure and move furniture around.
I pray she gets to feeling better real soon.
....So that she can take care of you.
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 01:54 PM (MbB0O)
Vote Republican!
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at July 16, 2012 01:55 PM (zpqa2)
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at July 16, 2012 01:55 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2012 05:53 PM (j1gX1)
He only hit me up for $143, so that ain't bad. I did notice he was driving a new two-seater Mercedes convertible parked in the rear though.
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 01:55 PM (YdQQY)
The only time he came out of autopilot was the debate right before Florida, when Newt was a legit threat.
He dragged Newt's whale blubber up and down the auditorium, and that was the end of that chapter.
Posted by: The Q at July 16, 2012 01:56 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2012 01:56 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at July 16, 2012 05:51 PM (GkwjL)
How about: "When given a choice, Average Joe selects cock to suck every time."
Posted by: © Sponge at July 16, 2012 01:57 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2012 01:57 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 05:54 PM (MbB0O)
LOL, she does send me notes on the computer.
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 01:57 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 16, 2012 01:58 PM (kSaUf)
Are they the crispy wafer peanut buttery treat?
They were. I haven't seen them in the grocery store in years. If I ever did, it'd be time to weigh myself again. Damn, those things were good.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 16, 2012 01:58 PM (d0Tfm)
>> I vaguely remember hearing that Mitt's camp was behind the Herman Cain dirt. Dunno if it's true.
I don't know, either. But I'm not at all sure the personal stuff is really what sank Cain's campaign, anyhow. It seems to me that his disastrous flub on Libya was when everyone here started backing away from him, for whatever that's worth.
Posted by: sandy burger at July 16, 2012 01:58 PM (6ClcK)
Capitalism sucks sometimes, especially when the government sticks its nose into it.
But....it's the best thing out there.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 16, 2012 01:58 PM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 16, 2012 05:56 PM (j1gX1)
\
Volvo???? Arrggg, yuppie housewife car!
I drive a 1996 F-150
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 01:59 PM (YdQQY)
Wait, Battleboro exists?
BTW your "Mary" is pretty over the top. A bit less worshipful and more bitter to the right would have been more convincing to me.
Posted by: Deathknyte at July 16, 2012 01:59 PM (64vuv)
Posted by: navybrat at July 16, 2012 02:00 PM (+2lbb)
You need government help. How about some nice food stamps? And maybe some affirmative action hiring? Of course you should come live in this rat-infested government project!
[because, after all, you spics aren't worth shit compared to us]
Posted by: condescending, two-faced lefties at July 16, 2012 02:01 PM (nEUpB)
When the gov sticks its nose in it, it is no longer capitalism.
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2012 02:01 PM (YdQQY)
If I were Mitt, I would wait until the second quarter GDP figures are out and use that hard data to start hammering home a different destination for America if he is elected. These Q2 numbers are looking like they are going to be bad and the Q3 numbers will come in too late to have any difference and one quarter won't make a trend if the numbers are up. But if the Q3 number is down when it is released in October, the bottom will fall out of the Obama campaign.
So, basically the strategy should be: Wait until the Q2 economic numbers are released to come out with all guns blazing with a positive, forward-looking campaign while hammering the Obama administration with their incompetence. If the Q3 numbers are up, it will not help Obama but if they are down, that pretty much guarantees the win for Romney.
Posted by: crosspatch at July 16, 2012 02:01 PM (ZbLJZ)
Mittens doesn't have it in him to be openly belligerent. He'd prefer to let the surrogates do it. And I don't know how you can think letting Obama define every issue of the campaign now is "preparing the ground" for Romney.
Basically, Mittens is playing defense, when he has to play to win. It's the same thing McCain did. But then, I'm hardly surprised, this is how the Establishment candidates always run against the Left.
Posted by: Shawn at July 16, 2012 02:02 PM (/lltO)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 16, 2012 02:03 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 16, 2012 02:03 PM (kXoT0)
I don't believe for a second....that it was a mere 'coincidence' that the new Batman movie has an arch villian named.....'Bane'.
I really do hate Hollywood.
More than ever now.
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 05:34 PM (MbB0O)
that is one of the dumbest comments of the week. There isn't anyone else they can use with Nolan's "realistic" approach to Batman and can carry a movie (and even then, they have to throw in Catwoman) without being forced into throwing Supes into the mix which kills Nolan's take on Bats.
Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 02:05 PM (tw6Ar)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 16, 2012 05:52 PM (QIwAo)
Oh, no, that was Perry!!!11eleventy!! Even tho there was no evidence, it was PERRY. Oh, and Perry's a racist, too!!
Posted by: Herman Cain at July 16, 2012 02:27 PM (KL49F)
Obama's not moving the bar.
Keep the power dry.
Posted by: Mark Pgast at July 16, 2012 02:40 PM (Xv7f/)
315...Posted by: The Dude at July 16, 2012 06:05 PM (tw6Ar)
There are over a dozen other villains that could have been used instead of Bane.
Nolan's "realistic" approach....is already an adaptation.
He could've adapted any one of the other villains to fit his 'take on Bats', as well.
He began writing it in 2008, right after the last election.
Romney has been running for President...for years.
It's been a foregone conclusion for years, that he would be the challenger this year.
Why release this movie, right now, in the heat of the campaign?
They could've waited a few months and released it after the election, for the Holiday Season.
When it comes to Hollywood and Politics....I no longer believe in 'coincidences'.
Posted by: wheatie at July 16, 2012 02:45 PM (MbB0O)
Maybe you should spend more time considering why Romney, after losing an election on this in 1994, and then getting pummeled on this in the Primaries, *still* had no line of defense for it in the general election. What kind of staff gets crushed on the SAME issue 3 times?
Posted by: Shawn at July 16, 2012 03:11 PM (/lltO)
Posted by: Herpglerble at July 16, 2012 03:18 PM (Rilbs)
Anyone wonder who was responsible for McCains sorry as performance. When Mitt says its beneath his dignity he is saying Obama is a nice but misguided guy!
Sound familiar?
The PACS will have to go all ugly on the liar and thief as Karl irrelevant Rove will not let Romney.
Its how he took out the Repub opposition by his surrogates doing the down and dirty!
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at July 16, 2012 03:26 PM (nonzP)
Posted by: steevy at July 16, 2012 04:48 PM (6o4Fb)
If Mittens isn't willing to fight to win the campaign, why did he run?
Posted by: Shawn at July 16, 2012 04:57 PM (/lltO)
Posted by: gracepmc at July 16, 2012 05:31 PM (rznx3)
Just because Romney's keeping cool calm and collected, just because Romney doesn't look or sound angry, doesn't mean he isn't (as somone above put it) sticking the stiletto in deep. The astuteness of Romney, the jujitsu of Romney, is that he sticks the stiletto in (hidden in his hand, so onlookers hardly notice) precisely when the other guy is angrily and conspicuously waving around a big knife and making exaggerated stabbing moves in the air. So the other guy looks to onlookers like the violent thug, but at the end of the fight it's the other guy who's bleeding more, from deeper wounds.
As Miss Marple noted this morning,
1. In response to the president's refusal to apologize, he pointed out that the entire thing is an attempt to distract from Obama's terrible record on jobs.
2. On Rahm saying he should quit whining, he said when someone falsely accuses you of a crime, you get a bit upset. He is proud of his ethical business record
3. On business in general, he pointed out the forgiveness of government loans to political donors (Solyndra, etc.) stinks to high heaven.
4. On transparency, he pointed out the executive orders regarding Fast and Furious, which he said was unprecedented and something else (maybe suspicious).
So, he used the openings Obama gave him to talk about Obama's terrible jobs record, the fake accusations and his own excellent ethical record, the graft and corruption with companies like Solyndra, and the White House involvement in Fast and Furious.
Romney's seized the opportunity-- the wonderful opportunity presented when the Obama campaign called Romney a felon, a charge so ridiculously over-the-top and obviously false that it thereby discredits itself, weakening its own attempt to charge Romney with corruption and lack of transparency-- to point out Obama's own arrant crony capitalist corruption (Solyndra) and the suspicious, potentially criminal opacity surrounding Fast and Furious. Fast and Furious, people. Romney is talking about these things with the MSM spotlight helpfully on him-- because of this seemingly silly (non)apology story.
People complaining that Romney is just playing defense, that he's just whining that Obama 'isn't being fair," seem completely blind to what Romney is actually doing. You see the Obama campaign conspicuously waving around a big knife lunging dramatically at Romney. Romney politely points this out to the American people (look at this crazy person lunging at me with a knife)-- so that the American people take note of who the thug is in this situation. NB these knife thrusts keep missing Romney, they nick and scratch but haven't managed to hit any vital organs. You then complain that Romney isn't shouting, cursing angrily and waving a big knife at Obama in turn-- and you completely miss the fact that all the while, Romney's sticking the stiletto in, again and again, making the other guy bleed without himself looking like a thug and aggressor.
Posted by: lael at July 16, 2012 05:38 PM (YH+qo)
Posted by: ltcsnick at July 16, 2012 05:50 PM (1+xCc)
Posted by: sandman will resist at July 16, 2012 06:30 PM (zxaA2)
Posted by: pawn at July 16, 2012 06:53 PM (iMsF6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 16, 2012 08:26 PM (r4wIV)
Posted by: Pragmatic at July 16, 2012 09:52 PM (elHhH)
You're absolutely right, "polls will say what they say." So what does a poll say when after three terrible news months for Obama, Romney went from +5 to tied? Absolutely nothing; heckuva campaign strategy, Mitt; or ropeadope and above the fray is not a superb campaign strategy? Just asking.
Mitt definitely liked going for the jugular against fellow Republicans. But is there any evidence that he's chomping at the bit to do the same against a Democrat? And how long does Mitt need to go about "weighing" his need to do this, anyway? Wouldn't it be obvious to anyone lacking a phalanx of highly paid polical consultants that you actually have to criticize an incumbent who has a lap poodle news media backing him up, and not just a little, once in a while, if you want to win?
Posted by: Joe Cor at July 17, 2012 01:33 AM (LYbbZ)
#255: >The Archie Bunkie guys. Man they were awesome.<
Fact: Archie Bunker was a caricature created by liberals who despised conservatives. Archie Bunker was designed to show that conservatives are perhaps well-meaning, but fundamentally wrongheaded and stupid.
Because Archie Bunker was brought to life by a talented and charming actor, the character became a very successful, "below the radar" means for ridiculing conservatism -- both to liberals AND ill-informed conservatives (who were properly repulsed by the supposedly conservative character's stupidity and racism).
I know this is obvious to most people who post here, but it may not be recognized by some.
Know your enemy.
Posted by: John at July 17, 2012 03:50 PM (9196u)
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