October 25, 2012
— Ace Always an excuse. Always a scapegoat.
Now they're blaming Bill Clinton for giving them bad political advice.
Which they took. Which they decided was the best advice available to them.
But it's Clinton's fault.
How Bill Clinton May Have Hurt the Obama Campaignby Matt Bai
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[T]here is one crucial way in which the 42nd president may not have served the 44th quite as well. In these final weeks before the election, Mr. Clinton’s expert advice about how to beat Mitt Romney is starting to look suspect.You may recall that last spring, just after Mr. Romney locked up the Republican nomination, Mr. Obama’s team abruptly switched its strategy for how to define him. Up to then, the White House had been portraying Mr. Romney much as George W. Bush had gone after John Kerry in 2004 – as inauthentic and inconstant, a soulless climber who would say anything to get the job.
But it was Mr. Clinton who forcefully argued to Mr. Obama’s aides that the campaign had it wrong. The best way to go after Mr. Romney, the former president said, was to publicly grant that he was the “severe conservative” he claimed to be, and then hang that unpopular ideology around his neck.
Matt Bai excuses Team Obama for taking this advice:
...It’s not hard to understand why Mr. Obama and his advisers took Mr. Clinton’s advice to heart; to disregard it would be like telling Derek Jeter, “Hey man, appreciate the input, but I think I know how to make that flip play from the hole just fine on my own.”
It's difficult to find the words. There is just something deeply pathological about Obama and his minions. They can always find an excuse and a scapegoat. Their decisions and their mistakes are never their own-- it's always someone else's fault.
This is clearly intended to absolve the anonymous Obama aides for making a decision that they — and the president — must have signed off on before it was implemented. Bai goes to great lengths to take them off the hook, and even compares their position to a ballplayer who would reject advice from Derek Jeter. In other words Bai is saying that anyone, even really smart political operatives like those working in Obama’s Chicago headquarters, or the top guys themselves like David Axelrod or David Plouffe, had no choice but to bow to the 42nd president’s wisdom....
[T]he idea that it was only Clinton that advocated this strategy or that without his influence the geniuses running the Obama campaign would not have made this mistake is so patently self-serving on the part of his sources that itÂ’s a wonder that a generally savvy observer like Bai doesnÂ’t point this out.
There was some debate over which strategy Obama would pursue, flip-flopper or extremist ideologue. Ramesh Ponuru argued that Obama would obviously pursue the latter -- the former makes him sound too much like a moderate/centrist/independent voter, who tend to be up in the air about policy questions too.
Clinton may have argued for that strategy, but it was approved in Chicago.
And now they want to claim they were just victims, victims yet again.
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Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 11:08 AM (aHR5E)
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Posted by: Hillary Clinton's 2016 Campaign Manager at October 25, 2012 11:09 AM (FOy5w)
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Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 25, 2012 11:09 AM (wtvvX)
http://tinyurl.com/8trwgba
Dems are in for a shitty October/November
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 25, 2012 11:09 AM (Zd/NW)
"Lost" when it comes to Math...and always looking for someone to blame.
We are living under the 'Lord of the Flies' Presidency.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 11:10 AM (ipkPX)
Romney would have slapped their supposed preferred strategy out of the park like Derek Jeter.
Posted by: polynikes at October 25, 2012 11:11 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: not the mama at October 25, 2012 11:11 AM (kzCIn)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 25, 2012 11:11 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at October 25, 2012 11:11 AM (Isj7A)
Posted by: MJ at October 25, 2012 11:11 AM (TR60b)
Posted by: buzzion at October 25, 2012 11:11 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 25, 2012 11:12 AM (BiMP/)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:12 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:12 AM (8y9MW)
Dems are in for a shitty October/November
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 25, 2012 03:09 PM (Zd/NW)
I actually tried one of these only a couple of years ago. Wasn't half bad, taste-wise. Couldn't get past the shape ... creepy and unnatural, it was.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 25, 2012 11:12 AM (GRvW4)
Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (SwjAj)
Posted by: booter at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (5KRL6)
Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (R18D0)
"THEY'RE ALL AGAINST ME!! EVERY EX-PRESIDENT IS AGAINST ME!!! THOSE BASTARDS!!!!"
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (wtvvX)
Even after 4 years of failure and massive debt increases, TFG's only solution is to 'invest' (spend) on infrastructure and teachers. EVERY idea this bozo has involves spending. Always.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (vd7A8)
Posted by: runninrebel at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (TKpwb)
Posted by: don't ya know at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (/A1Rb)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (TMB3S)
"Clinton made me do it." ~SCOAMT 2012
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:13 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Buck at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: ChrisMatYOOS at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (ZZ0d1)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (wtzRK)
Obama's best strategy would have been to have had a specific plan on how he was going to run his 2nd term to improve on his dismal 1st term. Instead these delusional nitwits thought just his aura would carry the day.
Posted by: polynikes at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (m2CN7)
Clinton may be many things, but a political fool he is not.
The man has the finely-tuned senses of a cockroach.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (2b4yb)
For once I agree with a dem ideologue jackass - Bill Clinton is an asshole.
For different reasons, but asshole nontheless.
Posted by: HtP at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (jx2j9)
When will this black-on-black violence end???
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Zombie Howard Cosell at October 25, 2012 11:14 AM (Jls4P)
Admitting that they were desperate enough to "take advice from Clinton"...
Means that they are admitting how desperate they were...months ago.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (ipkPX)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (K4KC3)
There's actually more evidence for that than there is for any other "because [he/she/it] is racist" comment Matthews has ever made.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (gmeXX)
You fucked up, Barack. You trusted us.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (wAyc8)
The best way to go after Mr. Romney, the former president said, was to publicly grant that he was the “severe conservative” he claimed to be, and then hang that unpopular ideology around his neck.
So, hang on. Is the Obama campaign now admitting that "severe" conservatisim is actually a popular opinion? Yea, even... the MAJORITY opinion? They're openly conceding this now?
Hallelujah!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: The Bowtying White Boy at October 25, 2012 11:15 AM (3xuEM)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 25, 2012 11:16 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: HtP at October 25, 2012 11:16 AM (jx2j9)
I actually tried one of these only a couple of years ago. Wasn't half bad, taste-wise. Couldn't get past the shape ... creepy and unnatural, it was.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 25, 2012 03:12 PM (GRvW4)
I tried one back in 89. Meh. But McDonalds were usually full this time of year with the McRib devotees.
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 25, 2012 11:16 AM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:16 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 11:16 AM (+BEvt)
They're not going to make the same mistake twice, Ace.
Geez......
Posted by: © Sponge at October 25, 2012 11:16 AM (UK9cE)
There's only one consistent thing in all of Obama's failures. Can you name what it is, children?
That's right, air! Air is to blame for all of the SCOAMF's failures.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - I'm Back in Slacks! at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny, ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (Ho2rs)
His first term was a disaster, and his second was only better insofar as the economy boomed, little thanks to his preferred policies.
Posted by: Kensington at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (znT2j)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (wtzRK)
But it was Mr. Clinton who forcefully argued to Mr. Obama’s aides that the campaign had it wrong. The best way to go after Mr. Romney, the former president said, was to publicly grant that he was the “severe conservative” he claimed to be, and then hang that unpopular ideology around his neck.<<<<<
You should put some ice on that.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (Bg/r1)
I knew Prince Autopen would be a disaster as President and Shrill would be a disaster of SecState, but I didn't expect them to take each other over the cliff quite like this.
Posted by: Filly at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (247Qj)
The 2012 Obama campaign is reminding me so much of the 2008 McCain campaign.
Low level staffers placing blame and throwing people under the bus to cover their asses?
Check.
Bringing along some random working guy to get people riled up (Joe the Plumber vs. Joe the Pizza Guy or whatever)?
Check
Trying to dig out some old scandal as a last second hail mary (granted ours was legit with the Khalidi tape)?
Check
Spending a ton of time in Ohio?
Check
People from your own side criticizing your campaign?
Check
Lack of momentum and acting desperate?
Check
It's like watching history repeat itself, except this time it feels oh so good. It seems like the chips are starting to fall for Romney the same way they did for Obama in '08
Posted by: Uncle Milty at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (8J5Ck)
Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 25, 2012 11:17 AM (AMsS5)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 25, 2012 11:18 AM (BiMP/)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 25, 2012 11:18 AM (GvYeG)
And it fails.
Landslide.
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 25, 2012 11:18 AM (ZtwUX)
"Sure I was policy director for OFA, but that loss was Clinton's fault."
McCain's cockaroaches did the same thing to Sarah Palin. Makes me wonder though, who in the Dem party thinks it's a good idea to try to re-establish credibility after this debacle by blaming Clinton. Is there some other power player among the Democrats that would buy that?
Posted by: Danby at October 25, 2012 11:18 AM (0K+ss)
Posted by: rdbrewer at October 25, 2012 11:18 AM (Iyg03)
Posted by: wooga at October 25, 2012 11:18 AM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:18 AM (a0nis)
Of course, he caught a lot of grief from our side.
Actually,that was really a sly way of sticking it to and damaging Barry by admitting and calling attention to the fact that things are crappy in the country.
Posted by: LeBron Steinman at October 25, 2012 11:19 AM (jfWE9)
Posted by: ejo at October 25, 2012 11:19 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:19 AM (znT2j)
Posted by: Lynne at October 25, 2012 11:19 AM (+Uv5V)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (K4KC3)
Go on the Wendy Williams show and let it slip that you always found goats "erotic".
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (wtzRK)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Miller at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (KA6ls)
Posted by: DaveA at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (wcjj2)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (TMB3S)
75 The 2012 Obama campaign is reminding me so much of the 2008 McCain campaign.
Low level staffers placing blame and throwing people under the bus to cover their asses?
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Should have left it at staffers I guess since McCain's shit came from the top. Also, criticizing Clinton here is a lot like criticizing Palin in '08. Both got their parties really excited and were very likable. Clinton didn't have happen to him what Palin went through, but it still seems like throwing your most effective messenger under the bus in both cases.
Posted by: Uncle Milty at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (8J5Ck)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 03:13 PM (8sCoq)
I don't think Clinton even has to leak it to the press. Half of his Presidential staff IS the press.
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:20 AM (GQ8sn)
For the record, Bill Clinton is a jackhole who still doesn't understand that he was only re-elected in 1996 because the Republican Congress forced him to abandon his agenda, thus making a second term more feasible.
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Actually, I think Clinton understands this very well. He was more than willing to abandon any sort of principles he may have had to stay in power. Obama could have actually learned a lot from Clinton.
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (gmeXX)
It's always the cracker.
Posted by: Dang©
Hey!
Posted by: Saltines at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: Barry Blues at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (RRbuy)
Absolutely real conversation from earlier this week:
Liberal acquaintance: "Wow! This is great! Chris Rock just totally schooled Romney on Twitter. Rock said that listening to Romney trying to explain his policy is like listening to a Best Buy salesman try to sell you something when he has no idea how it works. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!"
Me: "Which specific policy of Romney's are you referring to?"
Liberal acquaintance: "---------------------------------------"
He had no answer. Because, you see, for liberal voters, that's what this comes down to. Not policy specifics, about which they're abysmally ignorant, but about Hollyweird limousine-liberal celebrities making flat jokes on Twitter.
Here's the takeaway: this guy has already voted. Locked in. Straight ticket Democratic. His wife has already voted. Straight ticket Democratic. His parents have already voted. Straight ticket Democratic. His sister has already voted. Straight ticket Democratic. I suspect that his dog has already voted straight ticket Democratic.
These people are utter imbeciles, but there are a metric fuckton of them, and THEY HAVE ALREADY VOTED to re-elect Barky. Having Barky lose is NOT a foregone conclusion.
What have you done today to help offset that? If you can vote early, have you? How many friends, family and co-workers have you encouraged to vote? Have you donated? Phone banked? Precinct walked? Helped seniors with their ballots? If you haven't done any of these things, get on it. Now!
Posted by: torquewrench at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (ymG7s)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (eMjRH)
Axelfuhrer et. Co. problem was not one of strategy. Romney revealed himself as the candidate who appeared more presidential at a time when the nation is hungry for leadership. However Bubba counseled them, he could not fix the visuals of an angry, petulant manchild opposite Romney during the debates.
Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (jm/9g)
Always an excuse. Always a scapegoat.
What's the betting line that he'll deny paternity if one of his daughters screws up?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:21 AM (4df7R)
It's always the cracker.
Posted by: Dang©
I'm calling my lawyer.
Posted by: Ritz Crackers at October 25, 2012 11:22 AM (R18D0)
Exactly. He had to pick one. Mixing them together dilutes and weakens them both.
Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 11:22 AM (SwjAj)
Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 11:22 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 11:22 AM (9+ccr)
Unless that "racist" attack on Clinton was just cynical race politics, of course...
Posted by: Daybreaker at October 25, 2012 11:22 AM (NlG+i)
Posted by: runninrebel at October 25, 2012 11:22 AM (H1od7)
At the beginning of "Conan the Barbarian", Conan's father tells him "Crom is your god- Crom, and he lives in the earth."
But later in the movie Conan is explaining his beliefs to Subotai and says "That's Crom- strong on his mountain."
So which is it- in the earth or on a mountain? I know there are some Conan scholars among the Horde. Hit me with some wisdom.
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 11:23 AM (8sCoq)
Oh yeah, try that. Blame Hillary, too. Let's see how that works out for ya. There will be hell to pay, I tell ya.
Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 25, 2012 11:23 AM (encrR)
Posted by: real joe, scared we will fuck this election up at October 25, 2012 11:23 AM (Mea7K)
I don't think his strategy matters: he has a record. He can't run from it, it is what it is. And what it is is bad. All Mitt Romney really had (has) to do is not fuck up. So far, he's done better than that, which is why we can talk "landslide" even in fantasy land.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AmishDude at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Billy Boy Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (/A1Rb)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (hX8cq)
Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 03:22 PM (jm/9g)
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No kidding. I think I know what happened to the gender gap.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (BiMP/)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (gC30A)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (Bg/r1)
It's Jizzman Bill Clinton puttin' the foldin' chair to Barack "Hussein the Butcher" Obama's groin!!!!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 25, 2012 11:24 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 25, 2012 03:24 PM (BVkEs)
Pretty, no.
Richly satisfying? Absolutely.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 11:25 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 25, 2012 11:25 AM (f9c2L)
Holy shit! This is just breaking over at The Daily Caller!!!!
A bitter and contentious Wisconsin congressional race saw a new level of antagonism Wednesday morning when an openly gay Republican campaign worker became the victim of an apparent hate crime.
Kyle Wood, a full-time volunteer working for GOP House candidate Chad Lee, was hospitalized for injuries suffered during what he said was an assault at his home.
Wood told The Daily Caller that vandalism preceding the assault,
along with his attackerÂ’s statements during the incident, suggested his
sexual orientation and his politics each played a role.
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:25 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: gulfkraken at October 25, 2012 11:25 AM (WBfjO)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 25, 2012 11:25 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, R-Money cheerleader at October 25, 2012 11:25 AM (YOZSv)
Big Bird! Binders! Bayonets!
Big Bird! Binders! Bayonets!
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
Posted by: Barky at October 25, 2012 11:26 AM (R18D0)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 11:26 AM (9+ccr)
Both Clintons understand this. Back during the Dem primaries, I recall Krauthammer making this point. When asked to pick between Obama and Hilary, he picked Hilary, explaining (essentially): "I trust Hilary to occasionally do the right thing, albeit reluctantly, because politics require it. With Obama he'll consistently do the wrong thing, politics be damned, because he is an ideologue."
Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 11:27 AM (SwjAj)
You know, really, though, I don't think there was any way Barack Obama was going to win re-election this year. (Knocks on wood).
I don't think his strategy matters: he has a record. He can't run from it, it is what it is. And what it is is bad. All Mitt Romney really had (has) to do is not fuck up. So far, he's done better than that, which is why we can talk "landslide" even in fantasy land.
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Allen G - That is what I have been saying all along. Just like there was no way we were going to win in 2008. The facts on the ground matter a lot more than anything else. At the end of the day, you have a President who has presided over a lousy 4 years, who's signature piece of legistration is hugely unpopular, who has basically lost every election in which he has thrown his support (including in NJ). In the end, he just wasn't going to win.
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:27 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 25, 2012 03:24 PM (Bg/r1)
Riots in the burning street
Crystal night outside
Brutal music in the night, enough to make you cry
Nobody knows how it is to sleep and drown the world
I am the midnight snake to bite your little girls
Outside in the distance, the city in the fire
See the houses burning down, mile after mile
I don't think you know about your future yet
I don't think you're gonna like the one you're gonna get
Burner
Burner
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 11:27 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 11:28 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: You must have been very observant! at October 25, 2012 11:28 AM (yFJUJ)
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You forgot convicted liar.
Posted by: CUS at October 25, 2012 11:28 AM (84pE9)
The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round . . .
The whole Dem party will be under there soon'
Posted by: Vairish84 at October 25, 2012 11:28 AM (lG2dn)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 25, 2012 11:28 AM (ma+gB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 25, 2012 11:28 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 03:23 PM (8sCoq)
Wow. That's definitely what I'd call OT. loL!
As I see it, Crom lives in the earth, is a god OF the earth, and the mountains are an outward expression of his might and power. Just because Crom lives in the earth doesn't mean he can't walk in the air. It would be entirely natural for the seat of Crom's power, his literal throne, to be a mountain.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:28 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 25, 2012 11:29 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 25, 2012 11:29 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Janet at October 25, 2012 11:29 AM (pjknP)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 25, 2012 11:29 AM (GvYeG)
How do you know so much about Conan?
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:29 AM (GQ8sn)
I recall some self righteous attitude the last time he was before a hostile press.
Posted by: Jcw46 at October 25, 2012 11:30 AM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny, ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 at October 25, 2012 11:30 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: rev dr e buzz at October 25, 2012 11:30 AM (p7XU2)
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 03:27 PM (gmeXX)
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I agree, though I was worried for a long time that the MFM retained enough power to hide the facts until after election day.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 25, 2012 11:30 AM (BiMP/)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:30 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (wtzRK)
Posted by: A circling flock of turkey vultures at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: bigpinkfluffybunny at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (1Ialr)
Crom is an Earth god. When he rests, he lives deep within the Earth.
When he fights, the sky (Air) is his enemy, and he thrusts up to where he can fight, in the Mountain.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (bjRNS)
The man has the finely-tuned senses of a cockroach.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2012 03:14 PM (2b4yb)
Beautiful turn of phrase. I used to refer to the "rat-like cunning" of such people, but your phrase is even more apposite.
Consider it plagiarized!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: Billy Jeff at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: cajun carrot at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (UZQM8)
We are living under the 'Lord of the Flies' Presidency.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 03:10 PM (ipkPX)
heh, on target
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 11:31 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 25, 2012 11:32 AM (evdj2)
I may have to modify my T-shirt. Clinton - 2 terms. Bush - 2 terms. Obama - 1 term.
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:32 AM (gmeXX)
It's all Bush's fault!!
It's all Romney's fault!!
It's all Hillary's fault!!
It's all Bill's fault!!
It's all Libya's fault!!
It's all the world's fault!!
they love me, they really love me. I can do no wrong.
He's about one more crisis from doing something irrational.
Posted by: Jcw46 at October 25, 2012 11:32 AM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 11:32 AM (uaRd0)
*****
Obama is playing way, way out of his league now,
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 11:33 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 11:33 AM (9+ccr)
air. It would be entirely natural for the seat of Crom's power, his
literal throne, to be a mountain.
How do you know so much about Conan?
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 03:29 PM (GQ8sn)
It's implied by the quotes, wouldn' tyou say?
I also watch "Conan the Barbarian" and "Conan the Destroyer" on a constant loop for at least one month every year. And I add some "Beastmaster" and "Red Sonja" for flavor.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:33 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at October 25, 2012 11:33 AM (eEev7)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 25, 2012 11:33 AM (DuH+r)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2012 11:33 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 11:33 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Highsmith at October 25, 2012 11:34 AM (uwaMU)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2012 11:34 AM (oSFWF)
Well they are all atwitter about the Colin Powell endorsement.See he is a republican.. At least that is what he had the nerve to say today... obama even called to thank him...
And any Republican who actually knows what's what says, "Colin Powell hasn't been a Republican for at least twenty years."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Y-not at October 25, 2012 11:34 AM (5H6zj)
But pinning Obama's blame on teflon Bill proves once again that Team Obama has learned NUTHIN' these four years staying stuck on stupid.
Just because Obama refuses to accept responsibility doesn't mean that the nation and the world do not hold Obama responsible for his FAILURES TO COMMUNICATE.
WilliJeff grew up watching Cool Hand Luke reflected as his own public image:
"He was smiling... That's right. You know, that, that Luke smile of his. He had it on his face right to the very end. Hell, if they didn't know it 'fore, they could tell right then that they weren't a-gonna beat him. That old Luke smile. Oh, Luke. He was some boy. Cool Hand Luke. Hell, he's a natural-born world-shaker."
Posted by: What's your dirt doin' in his ditch? at October 25, 2012 11:34 AM (BAnPT)
A friend of mine serves on the board of a large company. A fellow board member is a high-up guy in the Democratic party. The board met recently, and my friend told me that the Dem party guy was deflated, depressed, and said everyone in the know on his side is "panicked."
Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 11:34 AM (SwjAj)
You sound like the perfect moron date!
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:34 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Anachronda at October 25, 2012 11:35 AM (xGZ+b)
Math is hard! Let's go get a manicure!
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Much like Gerg, Janetard doesn't seem to understand what "margin of error" means either.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 11:35 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 25, 2012 11:35 AM (VkBeZ)
Posted by: gulfkraken at October 25, 2012 11:35 AM (WBfjO)
Obama fans are cult members. Ready to go down in denial with the flaming ship.
let's say that he did get re-elected. Would he be able to handle it ? He might just quit and move to France.
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (gmeXX)
Right now, the Clintons are picking out which park bench TFG will be found on.
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (GQ8sn)
There's blood in the streets, it's up to my ankles
Blood in the streets, it's up to my knee
Blood in the streets in the town of Chicago
Blood on the rise, it's following me
Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (wAQA5)
160...Has Clinton (willie) ever admitted to a mistake or taken blame?
I recall some self righteous attitude the last time he was before a hostile press.
Clinton was always a blame-thrower too.
He excelled at it.
Both Clinton and Barky were raised much the same way...
By women, who thought they could do no wrong...and made excuses for them.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (ipkPX)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (B/VB5)
Wait a second. Who the fuck wrote this shit? I played baseball for 17 seasons. All the way through college. Not once ever was there anything called a "flip play from the hole." What in the hell is that supposed to be?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 25, 2012 11:36 AM (da5Wo)
bit in the ass by his own malleable persistence, constantly revising the lie
Posted by: What's your dirt doin' in his ditch? at October 25, 2012 11:37 AM (BAnPT)
Why am I reminded of the Starship Troopers discussion on "juvenile delinquent?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:37 AM (8y9MW)
Three weeks ago or so, everyone thought Romney's campaign was dead, and the strategy had worked. Much of Obama's lead was, in fact, attributed to Clinton's convention speech (not that I necessarily buy that). Even so, the election was Obama's to lose.
It was not Clinton's fault that Obama blew the first debate and revived Romney's hopes. Of course the debate was also the opportunity for Romney to disprove the extremist case against him...and he seized it. Even so, a strategy is not a plan to win every moment of a campaign but only to create the best opportunity to win the election.
Obama has also undermined the strategy himself by running to his left and trying to energize his own base.
Given Obama's four-year performance, painting Romney as a flip-flopper would not have been enough to defeat him. Too many voters might have reasoned as Scott Adams has.
This was a good strategy; if team Obama loses, it will be because of poor execution, not choosing the wrong game plan.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 25, 2012 11:37 AM (vouc9)
Even people that are fairly intelligent can often be fooled by a sociopath.
I have watched it up close at work and seen peoples lives destroyed.
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 11:37 AM (nTgAI)
I'm filling in for greg while he's on break. The guys at the glory hole won't know I'm a girl, given my moustache.
Posted by: Janet at October 25, 2012 11:38 AM (ggRof)
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So she's going to have surgery if he doesn't?
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 11:38 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2012 11:38 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2012 11:38 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 03:34 PM (GQ8sn)
lol! Thank you!
RomComs and "chick flicks" leave me cold. it's sword and sorcery, action/adventure, and sci-fi for me. Certain period pieces and historical dramas, too. But I'm a complete wimp when it comes to horror movies. I can't even do the haunted mine ride at Canobie Lake Park, which is as cheesy as they come, because I freak myself out!
(Even my dear 69 year old British mother who looks like a sugarplum laughs at me over that.)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 11:38 AM (6o4Fb)
http://tinyurl.com/9msp8st
Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2012 03:36 PM (B/VB5)
I see what you did there.....
Posted by: © Sponge at October 25, 2012 11:38 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: USA at October 25, 2012 11:39 AM (RIg+t)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 25, 2012 11:39 AM (e0xKF)
Even people that are fairly intelligent can often be fooled by a sociopath.
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (nTgAI)
Paging the 52%, paging the 52%, pick up the courtesy phone in the lobby.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 25, 2012 11:39 AM (lDWQr)
OK so Barry doesn't lead in ANY poll, but my magical one.
I have the unicorn pixy dust.
Posted by: Nate Silver at October 25, 2012 11:39 AM (wR+pz)
Bill Clinton told the Obama campaign to paint a Republican that was able to be elected governor in MA as an "extreme conservative"? He's telling the most extreme-left president we have ever had to do this?
OMG, Bill Clinton really screwed them over---I believe intentionally. And this whole BS about Hillary announcing she might stay on for O's second term when she knows there won't be one---just kicking him the balls for sport.
They really thought that they had put the Clintons out of business in 2008. Bwaaaaah---zombie Clintons are the most dangerous kind, it seems.
Posted by: 56 and loving RR at October 25, 2012 11:39 AM (9zugO)
Posted by: Daybreaker at October 25, 2012 11:40 AM (NlG+i)
The sound you just heard is the moron horde running to your front door.
PICK ME! PICK ME! NO, ME!
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:40 AM (GQ8sn)
Great plan.
Posted by: mojo at October 25, 2012 11:40 AM (d/67n)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2012 03:38 PM (B/VB5)
Obama's problem is that he demands credit for everything, and then when whatever it is goes wrong, he feels he must shift the blame back onto someone else. Usually it works, because no one wants to find fault with the lightbringer. But he forgets that Bill Clinton is still (incoherently) popular with the Democrat base; more popular than Obama himself. Shifting the blame back on Bubba makes Obama look like a spoiled child. It hurts Bubba not at all, and hurts Barack a LOT.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 25, 2012 11:40 AM (VkBeZ)
It was not Clinton's fault that Obama blew the first debate and revived Romney's hopes. Of course the debate was also the opportunity for Romney to disprove the extremist case against him...and he seized it. Even so, a strategy is not a plan to win every moment of a campaign but only to create the best opportunity to win the election.
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I think it is a myth to merely state that Obama blew the first debate. All Mitt had to do was appear competant. That's it. A very low bar actually. That he did better than that is pure gravy. But Obama will not lose this election on one debate. That's as wrong as saying McCain lost the election due to Palin.
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:41 AM (gmeXX)
So to quote Mr. Obama. Bullshit.
I am convinced the Clinton's see themselves as some type of Party saviors (no not that kind of party nitwit). In the sense that Obama's ways of running things will tar Democrats forever and cost them dearly in trust (which I believe is true). It will destroy something bigger for years- their Party.
This is one of the reasons winning this election is so imperative. It will give us an incredible amount of goodwill with which to work. Democrats will rightly remain pariahs for the roughshod way they overrode voters since 2008 and the egregious pursuit of political goals that is obvious to almost every voter.
Posted by: marcus at October 25, 2012 11:41 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Conan O'Ryan at October 25, 2012 11:41 AM (Gt8ei)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 03:33 PM (9+ccr)
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Watch for it: Baraka now has bipartisan support!
Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (uaRd0)
I posted that story about the gay GOP staffer getting beat up at his house. Looks like a hate crime.
Daily Caller has the deets.
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 03:38 PM (6o4Fb)
Colon Bowel... Nice work steevy !
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: USA at October 25, 2012 03:39 PM (RIg+t)
I find that if you don't remember, it's best not to ask. Especially if you've just woken up in a pool of someone's vomit.*
*hopefully your own
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Y-not at October 25, 2012 11:42 AM (5H6zj)
Dina Meyer nipples and Denise Richards in uniform... mmmm...
Posted by: wooga (the book doesn't show nipples!) at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (vjyZP)
She's a model and she's looking good....
But not for very much longer.
Posted by: Daybreaker at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (NlG+i)
*hopefully your own
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (4df7R)
You're just trying to whip the Rons into a frenzy aren't you?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (da5Wo)
@nerdygirl
It was at Red Rocks. There's a video in the sidebar of Mitt getting choked up at the crowd. Very moving.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, R-Money cheerleader at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (YOZSv)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (e0xKF)
****
The Des Moines Register has a split-cover.
Obama: Sharpens Criticism
Romney: Focus on Optimism
(I think the word they used was "focus")
Either way, it made Obama look like a whiner and Romney like a shiny, new penny.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Conan O'Ryan at October 25, 2012 03:41 PM (Gt8ei)
*HEARTS*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (4df7R)
Hopefully we can deploy them against jihadis and they will surrender for fear of catching "teh ghey".
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (GQ8sn)
Layoff the Horse face jokes about my wife okay?
Now excuse me I have to go clean out her stall and put down some new straw.
Posted by: Matthew Broderick at October 25, 2012 11:43 AM (Vh0f5)
Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at October 25, 2012 11:44 AM (e0xKF)
BREAKING: Arlington County Police launches CRIMINAL investigation into Moran
The Arlington County Police Department has opened a criminal investigation into a video of Patrick Moran, son of Rep. Jim Moran and former field director of his reelection campaign.
http://tinyurl.com/983vsdp
Posted by: Tami at October 25, 2012 11:44 AM (X6akg)
Also- Dizzy is a dude in the book. And he dies in the first scene.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:44 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2012 11:44 AM (oSFWF)
Posted by: wooga (the book doesn't show nipples!) at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (vjyZP)
That requires pics...
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 25, 2012 11:44 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: eggs benedict at October 25, 2012 11:44 AM (FpBe1)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 25, 2012 11:44 AM (e0xKF)
Even people that are fairly intelligent can often be fooled by a sociopath.
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I know enough of them--otherwise good, normal people--that keep me in a twist and unable to call this election a lock. Sorry.
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (0CiTm)
sample is D+9
the campaigns have already decided who is going to win in NC because they aren't campaigning there anymore. O won NC by only 14,400 (approx) votes in 08. & stupid-ass PPP thinks they could be tied? idiots
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (HNwOT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (da5Wo)
I had no idea that puddles of vomit could do such a thing! 
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (4df7R)
.............
Hahahahaha.. you've been snookered, Janet.. you and all your libtard friends really believe all these shitty polls.. But then, you have to, don't you? It's all you have left.. your pitiful self-deception that O'Bummer will make it through this election...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (Qr/Eg)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (GvYeG)
Mitt's really going to do it.
They're already burning their bridges!
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (xAtAj)
And the women were bald, at least the ones serving as crew on the ships.
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: I'm a Victim! at October 25, 2012 11:46 AM (54vf8)
Posted by: SH at October 25, 2012 11:46 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Y-not at October 25, 2012 11:47 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 25, 2012 11:47 AM (VkBeZ)
Too good to pass up-
~Dr. Varno: "Shit just got i^2"
HEH!
/ sung to the tune of Schoolhouse rock:
3 is a magic number
but teh ONE is a zero
and "i" is an imaginary number, yes it is!
Posted by: USMC8541 at October 25, 2012 11:47 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 25, 2012 03:44 PM (da5Wo)
Initial BING search shows a video from Nip/Tuck where she cuts her did off with an electric knife.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 25, 2012 11:47 AM (UK9cE)
It is, but it won't be prosecuted as one. 90% chance the perp is gay.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 25, 2012 11:47 AM (ZKzrr)
215Even people that are fairly intelligent can often be fooled by a sociopath.
I have watched it up close at work and seen peoples lives destroyed.
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (nTgAI)
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Yup.
That's because sociopaths are often often very charming and beguiling.
They learn very young...that they can disarm people with their charm.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 11:47 AM (ipkPX)
Of course I said I was going to vote, and that I'd be voting for Obama.
They REALLY wanted me to early vote...because ummm...I might be sick on election day.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 25, 2012 11:48 AM (WZtt1)
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 25, 2012 11:48 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 25, 2012 03:36 PM (B/VB5)
I see what you did there.....
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Ok you two. Quit horsing around.
Posted by: CUS at October 25, 2012 11:48 AM (84pE9)
Hold the phone, what is this now???
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:48 AM (GQ8sn)
197 Mallamutt
You know they're hurtin' bad when the Obama favorable polls portray a "dead" heat.
Axelrod: Where'd the road go?
Clinton: That's it. That's the end of it.
Choom: Man, there's still daylight.
Axelrod: About two hours left.
Choom: What do we do now?
Clinton: Nothin'.
Axelrod: Oh Bill, you wild, beautiful thing. You crazy handful of nothin'.
Posted by: What's your dirt doin' in his ditch? at October 25, 2012 11:48 AM (BAnPT)
well the Denver Post has apparently edited the video because it is now barely over 2 minutes long and Mitt doesn't even appear
does anybody have a link to a longer video?
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 11:49 AM (8sCoq)
He makes me ill.
Even despite Autopen's endless fuckuppery, I don't miss him.
Posted by: Filly at October 25, 2012 11:49 AM (247Qj)
Posted by: Carl at October 25, 2012 11:49 AM (EmrUt)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 25, 2012 11:49 AM (Qr/Eg)
Jimi ray hardest hit.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (DKxu1)
Posted by: Miss Grundy at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (RoEtU)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (U+DUu)
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 03:48 PM (GQ8sn)
Well, I meant to say tit, but wasn't paying attention due to the shear horror of the scene.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: joe in michigan at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (3R8wQ)
Posted by: USA at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (RIg+t)
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Plus Waco, plus the USS Cole, plus the Khobar Towers, plus the first WTC attack...
Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (aHR5E)
FIFT.
The only "redefinition of rape" was when the fymynysts decided "kinda regret it three days later" should be prosecuted. And that was bullshit.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (ZKzrr)
My opinion of why Romney is not up by 10 points right now is I unfortunately think some of this class warfare nonsense has worked specifically because Romney is so wealthy. Romney being rich and successful tends to draw on the natural human emotion of jealousy and envy.
If Mitt Romney had the same background and net worth as say Tim Pawlenty or Chris Christie, this race wouldn't even be a contest.
I do unfortunately though think social conservatives have hurt the Republican brand at the margins with women by putting their foot in their mouth on some strange issues like contraception and abortion, and Romney has had to work extra hard to woo that group.
Posted by: McAdams at October 25, 2012 11:50 AM (xinSF)
So Conan has literally been in the presence of Crom, who resides on a mountain yet is in the earth. Crom has an honor guard of dead around him. The sword itself is stronger than iron, as he uses it to strike off his iron shackles.
It's good mythology.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 25, 2012 11:51 AM (ccXZP)
1 I have seen you demonstrate against war , But now find it exceptable
22 I have seen you cry about the poor while adding millions of americans to their rolls
3 I have heard your the party of women, while reducing them to a vagina and an abortion
4 I had thought you were concerned about constitutional rights and free speech and now you ignore Americans being put on assassination lists
5 I had thought you cared about the children until you decided full term abortion was acceptable.
6 I had believed you were concerned about the over-reach of the govt in your life, while now you accept them being the decision makers over your wombs and final days.
7 I have watched you threaten businessmen and the rich with death for your guy, for gooodies for yourselves, while those that have money in your party refuse to donate to the irs.
8 i had thought you were squeamish at religiosity in our govt, yet you made a man your messiah.
i'm sure my list will get longer as the days go on.
Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 11:51 AM (hX8cq)
The Yahoo News LOL headline of the day:
"Romney still hasn't given up on Ohio"
The bim from upthread must be writing for them.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 25, 2012 11:51 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 25, 2012 11:51 AM (WZtt1)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 25, 2012 11:52 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 03:45 PM (GQ8sn)
This is one of those things that irritates me about "The Walking Dead." I love the show, but I can't be alone in wanting to grab a hacksaw and chop off about two feet of Lori's hair. The world's come to an end and she's lugging around a head of (admittedly gorgeous) hair that's just BEGGING to become infested with lice before being grabbed by a hungry zombie who will then proceed to eat her face off as she struggles to get away. And all of this during a hot Georgia summer dripping with humidity. Good grief, if it was me I'd have cut my hair as short as possible the first time I found a pair of scissors and never looked back.
...
That was a tangent, wasn't it? Sorry, it's almost quittin' time and my mind is wandering.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:53 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Baldy at October 25, 2012 11:53 AM (opS9C)
With a winning campaign, there is the sharing of credit, not the assignment of blame. This must be the other kind.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 25, 2012 11:53 AM (VLifP)
Only some of them. (Note: I re-read this book at least once a year. Along with Mere Christianity, Miracles, and I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist).
But you're right that Carmen shaves her head when she's a pilot in training.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 11:53 AM (8y9MW)
You are so brave. I mean really. It has to be so hard supporting a candidate that has all but given up and acts like he doesn't want to be President anymore. You must feel abandoned after all the support you've given. Don't worry, it's ok to cry, when you are so totally let down by someone you believed in. The sooner you get through the bargaining and accept that Obama just really doesn't want to win, you will be so much better off. But don't rush it too much. Go at your own pace, spout a little bile here if it helps.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (eMjRH)
GOP rape advisory chart
So, is this, like, a hurricane advisory chart?
The Left really are a bunch of ninnyhammers.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bill "Littlefinger" Clinton at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (YmPwQ)
That poor little tit!
I'd take good care of it if I could adopt it.
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (GQ8sn)
I do unfortunately though think social conservatives have hurt the Republican brand at the margins with women by putting their foot in their mouth on some strange issues like contraception and abortion, and Romney has had to work extra hard to woo that group.
i agree with this statement. young women especially will not accept someone telling them what, when 0r how much they can do/choose about their female health
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (HNwOT)
281And as far as that bunch of losers throwing the Clintons under the bus, they need to throw Allred down there with the Clintons. What a joke.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 25, 2012 03:47 PM (VkBeZ)
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Gloria Allred was conspicuously silent...during all those sexual harrassment claims against Clinton.
I hope there is a special place in hell for her.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (ipkPX)
Muslims crushed Christians in Lebanon. America did nothing. If you're a Muslim and convert to Christianity in Afghanistan, you can be killed, under the constitution American soldiers defend. In Iraq, again, Muslims destroyed Christians and America did not even protest. In Egypt, the Arab Spring has been nothing but bad for Christians; apparently that's fine with America.
American foreign policy is run by people who don't even like Christians, much less care about Christian interests.
Posted by: Daybreaker at October 25, 2012 11:54 AM (NlG+i)
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 03:43 PM (GQ8sn)
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In all seriousness, that's really not a bad psy-ops ploy. Fighting (or being in close proximity thereof) against Americans makes you ghey.
I just don't know how our soldiers would take it, though.
Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 11:55 AM (uaRd0)
Envy of success is a recognized political phenomenon down under in Oz.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 25, 2012 11:55 AM (WZtt1)
Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at October 25, 2012 11:55 AM (izA2D)
http://tinyurl.com/9pq6gv4
(Granted it's Hawaii so he probably voted for TFG, but still.)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 11:55 AM (aHR5E)
Posted by: littleflower at October 25, 2012 11:56 AM (5PEAL)
Posted by: Roger McDowell at October 25, 2012 11:56 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 25, 2012 11:56 AM (XUKZU)
sample is D+9
I love a good joke in the afternoon. Was at a business lobby meeting at lunch, their pollster has GOP governor up TEN point, Mitt up 8.
PPP is in NC. They are just trying to pump up the turn out. Every democrat in the state knows they are fucked, except the little people. This poll will be headlines in every NC paper. All are democrat.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at October 25, 2012 11:57 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Up with people! at October 25, 2012 11:57 AM (kzFo5)
you have a wonderful way with words.....pig in a pantsuit vs beast in a boobbelt
Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny, ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 at October 25, 2012 03:30 PM (Ho2rs)
Thank you, phoenixgirl. But "pig in a pantsuit" or "PIAPS" was the name for Hilary! used by LDotters on Lucianne during the Clinton regime, so I can't take credit for it. "Beast in a boob belt" came to me in a nightmare. But it's so obvious, I'm sure some clever devil beat me to it ages ago!
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 25, 2012 11:57 AM (ZtwUX)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 25, 2012 11:58 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Al Gore at October 25, 2012 11:58 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 25, 2012 11:58 AM (VkBeZ)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 25, 2012 11:58 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: WalrusRex at October 25, 2012 03:56 PM (XUKZU)
I heard Cracker Barrel is hiring.
Posted by: © Sponge at October 25, 2012 11:58 AM (UK9cE)
You're such a girl! Talking about zombies and connecting it to another girl's hair. lol!
My biggest LOLWUT? with the show is how careless they are with blood splatter. They routinely melee combat the zombies, including a lot of throat slashing and not one of them shows any concern for aerosolized zombie blood. Daryl doesn't have an unlimited supply of crosssbow bolts, so he must be using the same ones to take down zombies to hunt for food. That's fucked up! They should all have turned a long time ago! I know they're all infected already, but they should be progressing along to zombie land any second now.
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 11:59 AM (GQ8sn)
I hope there is a special place in hell for her.
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Is it true that Satan turned Kennedy, Murtha, and Sheets into a human centipede so he could ream all three of them at once?
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 12:00 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: © Sponge at October 25, 2012 03:58 PM (UK9cE)
They don't hire ghey.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at October 25, 2012 12:00 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: sTevo at October 25, 2012 12:00 PM (iKmsW)
Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 03:51 PM (hX8cq)
That's because the shot-callers are Reds. They'll say whatever advances communism:
August 22, 1939: "Germany is evil! The U.S. should prepare to go to war to fight fascism!"
August 23, 1939: Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact signed.
August 24, 1939: "Hands off Europe! Peace now!"
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 25, 2012 12:00 PM (U+DUu)
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Sounds like a commanding lead to me.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 12:00 PM (aHR5E)
people who complain about logical inconsistencies in a show about the zombie apocalypse.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 12:01 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 25, 2012 12:01 PM (1BqbG)
It would work. Just splice some videos of captured jihadis going into Guantanamo and then coming out as RuPaul.
FABULOUS!!!!
* three snaps and around the corner *
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 12:01 PM (GQ8sn)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 25, 2012 12:01 PM (ZtwUX)
I have a new poll out for California. It's a GOP +55 sample. Romney is up 1. I'll be letting RCP know so they can change CA to leaning Romney.
Bullshit. There's only 54 Republicans in CA.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 25, 2012 12:02 PM (U+DUu)
Posted by: soothsayer at October 25, 2012 12:02 PM (1BqbG)
Posted by: Greg's alter ego at October 25, 2012 12:03 PM (Jls4P)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 12:04 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: Honey Badger at October 25, 2012 12:04 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Secretariat at October 25, 2012 12:04 PM (U+DUu)
My biggest LOLWUT? with the show is how careless they are with blood splatter. They routinely melee combat the zombies, including a lot of throat slashing and not one of them shows any concern for aerosolized zombie blood. Daryl doesn't have an unlimited supply of crosssbow bolts, so he must be using the same ones to take down zombies to hunt for food. That's fucked up! They should all have turned a long time ago! I know they're all infected already, but they should be progressing along to zombie land any second now.
THIS THIS THIS!! ARRRGH! This drives me crazy! I actually sent that question to The Talking Dead this past week because it drives me nuts! Just what is the difference between being actively bitten or scratched by a zombie, which apparently leads to certain zombification, and being passively infected (or re-infected if you will) by ingesting zombie blood, or getting zombie blood in a cut on your hand, or eating food that's been killed with zombie-blooded weapons, etc, etc. It makes no sense! The group gets zombie blood and gore spattered all over them on a daily basis, rarely have a chance to do laundry or bathe properly, yet none of them suffer any ill effects.
You'd think with all the knives and machetes and other bladed weapons they use to kill zombies they'd all have cuts and slices all over their hands that would make it easy for the Zombie Disease to just set up in their blood and turn them without ever being attacked outright.
ARRRGH!
*MWR thinks too much*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:04 PM (4df7R)
This is your daily reminder to thank God for making Obama a post turtle, because it's exactly right.
If he'd shown just a little "flexibility" and agreed to make the Bush rates permanent and cut spending (even just "rate of growth") he could have made a play for the center. Instead, he's having to throw red-meat to his base just to keep them in line.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 12:05 PM (8y9MW)
From the previous thread...in case you missed it:
377Bombshell: Clinton Ordered More Security, Obama Denied Request
Posted by: Scobface at October 25, 2012 02:58 PM (IoNBC)
So...Bill has been trying to get Hillary to release this for two weeks?
Dayum.
This is getting good!
This is why Hillary lawyered up.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 12:05 PM (ipkPX)
Oh, and:
You're such a girl! Talking about zombies and connecting it to another girl's hair. lol!
You betcha! lol!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:06 PM (4df7R)
Why haven't the gotten more flak for that? I know the first instinct of conservatives is "Who cares, no one listens to Yahoo News" but I remember reading an article where it was one of the top internet sources for news in the US.
I mean, I don't expect them to be conservative, but it's a parody at this point. I would think if shareholders gave the Board an earful they would at least give the appearance of being a little more objective.
Posted by: McAdams at October 25, 2012 12:06 PM (xinSF)
I'll give him $20 to count polar bears on Shemya for a month.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 25, 2012 12:06 PM (WZtt1)
Posted by: Greg's alter ego at October 25, 2012 12:07 PM (Jls4P)
"Lost" when it comes to Math...and always looking for someone to blame.
We are living under the 'Lord of the Flies' Presidency.
Posted by: wheatie
The only math dems understand is zero sum games and they still fk those up so that even their cronies get less than they should get. (Union pensions in five years, for example)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 25, 2012 12:07 PM (VLifP)
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 12:07 PM (6o4Fb)
I think Team SCOAMF is tossing Billy Jeff under the bus in preparation of tossing Hildebeast under it for Benghazi. Obama is a petty, vindictive little bitch and the White House is going to be a most un-fun place to work after he loses the election.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at October 25, 2012 12:07 PM (nYHk7)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 25, 2012 04:05 PM (8y9MW)
And if he'd moved to the center, we wouldn't be in AS BAD a spot as we are now. It would still suck, and we'd still be fighting to get him out of office, but the apocalyptic scenarios would be considered kooky instead of dire.
But if he'd moved to the center, he wouldnt' be the Obama we all know and despise.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:08 PM (4df7R)
The market for toxic radioactive waste is quite limited...
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 25, 2012 12:08 PM (WZtt1)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 12:08 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 12:09 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: WitheldByRequest at October 25, 2012 12:09 PM (4mdaW)
Also, unlike McCain, he understands neither the media nor the Dems are his pals, and he has cleverly outsmarted them at every turn. His debates were a masterstroke of discipline: he knew exactly what he was doing, aimed every one of his debates at getting undecided voters and neither let Obama bait him or gave the right red meat that might turn off the Luntz's Dunces he needed. It isn't an accident he got a bounce from every single debate. I am tired of Akin's on our side who don't or won't understand you have to WIN first if you want to change policy.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at October 25, 2012 12:09 PM (8kq7+)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 12:09 PM (0CiTm)
Linked on Hot Air: Kieth Olberfuhrermann is looking for a job.
Keefums has been looking for a job since he got fired from Current. I guess he thought he'd have one in time for the election, but no one wants to hire his fat, prima donna ass.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:09 PM (4df7R)
215Even people that are fairly intelligent can often be fooled by a sociopath.
I have watched it up close at work and seen peoples lives destroyed.
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 25, 2012 03:37 PM (nTgAI)
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Yup.
That's because sociopaths are often often very charming and beguiling.
They learn very young...that they can disarm people with their charm.
Posted by: wheatie
Failing that, an ice pick in the eyeball.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 25, 2012 12:09 PM (VLifP)
his marriage vows 2) with a chick barely older than his daughter 3) IN
THE OVAL OFFICE 4) and then proceeded to lie about it to: a) the
American people b) to his Cabinet c) under oath.
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Plus Waco, plus the USS Cole, plus the Khobar Towers, plus the first WTC attack...
Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster
Plus messed up a perfectly nice blue dress.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 25, 2012 12:10 PM (VLifP)
O-Bot Crewman: "Sir, we've lost our shields, main power is down, weapons are offline!!!"
TFG: "Maybe today IS a good day to die!"
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 12:10 PM (GQ8sn)
In 28 Days Later,where a single drop of zombie blood in the eye gave someone the Rage virus(which takes like seconds,apparently)yet they were slicing up zombies with machetes and getting covered in gore.
Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 04:07 PM (6o4Fb)
This is why, as I've told my sister, in a zombie apocalypse ranged weapons are your FRIEND.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:11 PM (4df7R)
I'm a well known cooter bandit, but I turned Gloria Allred down for good reason. She would brag to the media and all her friends that she snagged a good one with a big dick, and I'm not down with telling stories out of school.
Kate, call me honey for a good time.
Posted by: Abe Vigoda at October 25, 2012 12:11 PM (lDWQr)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 12:11 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2012 03:34 PM (oSFWF)
His followers remind me of the people who were in the Jim Jones cult, without the mass suicide....yet.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 25, 2012 12:11 PM (qEkGZ)
Posted by: USA at October 25, 2012 12:12 PM (RIg+t)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 04:09 PM (0CiTm)
When Lori did that, I threw my hands in the air and gave up. I know she was trying to help but... ARRGH!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:12 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 12:13 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: MWR
1. Infectious dose: a lot of times is bigger than 1 virus. You may have some ability to fight of the disease at initial infection. Your body does this 1000X a day and you never know it. Particularly with staph.
2. Infection path. Changing the path into the body changes the infectious dose or in some cases completely eliminates the chance of infection. Ingesting is a terrible path that most viruses will not survive thanks to stomach acid. Additionally inhalation though a bit easier is still a tough path and may not be adequate.
3. Survival outside a host. Some viruses cannot live for very long at all outside an active host. So tainted materials may not be tainted for very long.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at October 25, 2012 12:13 PM (eMjRH)
2. Infection path. Changing the path into the body changes the infectious dose or in some cases completely eliminates the chance of infection. Ingesting is a terrible path that most viruses will not survive thanks to stomach acid. Additionally inhalation though a bit easier is still a tough path and may not be adequate.
3. Survival outside a host. Some viruses cannot live for very long at all outside an active host. So tainted materials may not be tainted for very long.
TNT is hiring.
Posted by: EC at October 25, 2012 12:14 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: teh Wind at October 25, 2012 12:14 PM (HBU8E)
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No no no, that can't be right. Janet assures me that TFG has a commanding lead in Ohio, and that's good enough for me.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 12:14 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Mick McMick at October 25, 2012 12:15 PM (FHlAi)
In other words then, Clinton pulled a "Little Big Man", playing Jack Crabb to Obama's General Custer.
Love it!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 25, 2012 12:16 PM (BAS5M)
If I were Mitt, I'd offer him a job wiping my ass on Nov. 7th.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 25, 2012 12:16 PM (aHR5E)
OT, but this headline from the sidebar is hilarious:
Actual Headline: "Despite recent killings, Lamoine (Maine) still ‘a great place to live,’ say selectmen"
I don't know why on earth the Bangor Daily News would use that as a headline. That's not even the crux of the article, which is about a young man who killed his father and grandfather earlier this week, then was killed himself by the police. I mean, if this were something that had been happening regularly in itty bitty Lamoine (Population: 1,600), then I could see the point of making your headline "Lamoine is still a great place to live!" (Of course, if this had been happening regularly in itty bitty Lamoine I doubt there'd be anyone left alive in town to read about it.) But one unhinged Mainer tragically murdering two members of his own family and then being killed himself does not an endemic culture of murder make.
It's almost like poor little Maine wanted to say, "Look! Look! We're gritty, too! Bad things happen here, tooooo!"
*pats Maine on the head and gives it a cookie* You're so cute!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:17 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 12:18 PM (0CiTm)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 12:18 PM (ck76k)
383 I'm a well known cooter bandit, but I turned Gloria Allred down for good reason.
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You're a better man than I, Gunga Din.
Posted by: Will Folks at October 25, 2012 12:18 PM (xGZ+b)
Surprise! /not
You KNOW who has already proven he comes out smelling like a rose after perjury and impeachment.
Obama's gonna cry "racism" 'cause he won't get re-elected and WilliJeff did.
Then again, internationally, instead of destroying the entire Balkan region as Obama has destroyed the Arab region propagandizing "Spring", Bill Clinton involved us in one illegal war which didn't lose to terrorists our US Embassies complete with Ambassadors and diplomatic entourage in either Sarajevo or Pristina.
Posted by: What's your dirt doin' in his ditch? at October 25, 2012 12:19 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 12:19 PM (ck76k)
****
I'm sure TFG will get their endorsement, and I don't know what the text under the headlines says, but for anyone who glances at the page, it looks good for Romney. Megyn Kelly had it up on her show earlier today.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 12:21 PM (piMMO)
A few little bones to the Center, and he probably would have been comfortably reelected.
Like with ObamaCare, imagine if he just put a bit of tort reform on the extreme end of things, or allowed health insurance to be sold across state lines. Little things like that would have made a big difference.
I've never seen a Democrat make such a play for his left-wing base with no interest in triagulation, usually conservatives have problems because Democrats masquerade as pro-choice Republicans.
Posted by: McAdams at October 25, 2012 12:22 PM (xinSF)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 25, 2012 12:23 PM (baL2B)
He's leaving his messes behind, like a big titty baby waiting for his diapers to get changed for him by a responsible adult.
Small wonder his leadership from behind is ruinous.
At least the Egyptians have taken out one Libyan suspect, el-Azizi.
(Reuters, Cairo, 7 hours ago)
A Libyan militant suspected by Egypt of involvement in last month's attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya has been killed during a raid by Egyptian security forces in Cairo, a security official said on Thursday. The Libyan was killed on Wednesday in a raid targeting him and other militants with suspected links to al Qaeda in Cairo's eastern district of Nasr City, the official said. Four Egyptian militants were detained in the operation, he added. The Libyan, identified as Karim Ahmed Essam el-Azizi, was killed by a bomb he had tried to use against the security forces during the raid, the security official said.
Posted by: What's your dirt doin' in his ditch? at October 25, 2012 12:25 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: Michael Beschloss, Historian Extraodinaire at October 25, 2012 12:26 PM (nZvGM)
Posted by: Michael Beschloss, Historian Extraordinaire at October 25, 2012 12:28 PM (nZvGM)
1. Infectious dose: a lot of times is bigger than 1 virus. You may have some ability to fight of the disease at initial infection. Your body does this 1000X a day and you never know it. Particularly with staph.
2.
Infection path. Changing the path into the body changes the infectious
dose or in some cases completely eliminates the chance of infection.
Ingesting is a terrible path that most viruses will not survive thanks
to stomach acid. Additionally inhalation though a bit easier is still a
tough path and may not be adequate.
I get that. But for instance, early in this past week's episode, a character was scratched by a zombie. Just scratched. Not even a very deep scratch at that. But the other characters were ready to write him off as incurably infected.
So then let's talk about bladed weapons again. If you use a knife regularly, you're probably going to cut yourself. It just happens. If you use a knife violently, you're even MORE likely to cut yourself. The preferred method of zombie killing in TWD is via up close and personal contact, usually involving a knife, axe or other sharp or heavy object shoved into the brain. So let's say that, in the process of killing a shitload of Walkers, you've cut yourself on the machete you like to use for killing shitloads of Walkers. Let's say it's a relatively superficial cut -- not much more than a deep papercut -- across the palm of your hand. As you continue killing zombies, the scratch on your hand gets doused repeatedly in gallons of zombie blood, brain matter, and goo.
How is the latter scenario markedly different from the former, where the character was simply scratched by a zombie?
3. Survival outside a host.
Some viruses cannot live for very long at all outside an active host. So
tainted materials may not be tainted for very long.
My only problem with this is that the hosts who are carrying this contagion are themselves dead. What would prevent the virus (is it a virus? Do we know that for sure? I forget) from simply hanging out in its blob of gore and viscera and waiting to be picked up by another host, be they living or dead? If the virus doesn't require a living host, then how does it know when it's been separated from its DEAD host?
Again, though, I think way too much. It's a show about dead people reanimating. It really doesn't deserve this much critical analysis. lol!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 25, 2012 12:29 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 25, 2012 12:29 PM (pmDdf)
Posted by: Fritz at October 25, 2012 12:32 PM (vm7ot)
Posted by: Cackfinger at October 25, 2012 12:34 PM (CCHli)
The problem with the strategy is that (1) Romney does not have a record, or even a platform, of "severe conservatism," (2) he has a clean background that makes personal attacks very difficult, (3) he picked an equally squeaky-clean and highly likable running mate, and (4) everyone except the most partisan, govt-teat types is mentally exhausted and looking for some hope that things can get better. All Romney and Ryan had to do is appear like reasonable, well-intentioned, competent politicians and Bill's whole argument was shot.
He would have been better off going after the windsock/Etch-a-Sketch attack, imho.
Posted by: Y-not at October 25, 2012 03:42 PM (5H6zj)
Not really, because the same can be said about Obama himself. In order to keep his own record out of bounds so people could forget, he really can't talk about issues himself. Plus as we've seen, he and his people can't keep a coherent line going themselves.
In the first debate, the people would have seen he's got convictions and earnestness, too. So that program would have been exploded just the same.
When an incumbent can't play the "I did well" or "I have a plan" cards himself, the only one left is "He isn't fit". Both reasons for unfit, too scary conservative or too wishy washy are likely to become undone if they are based on nothing.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 25, 2012 12:34 PM (z1N6a)
Obama is the *epitome* of a flip-flop/ etch-a-sketch politician. Romney would've hung all of Obama's etch-a-sketchiness around his neck, and the media would've been forced to report it.
But no one can accuse Obama of being a "severe conservative." So, they went with that.
Posted by: lael at October 25, 2012 12:36 PM (ZnY8c)
Walking Dead does not have a highly infectious zombie 'virus'. The comics have examples of people being bitten, and then shortly thereafter amputating said body part, and surviving. So the assumption is that the zombie virus in Walking Dead has a fairly low rate of transmission -- and much more slowly than the rage virus.
Posted by: wooga at October 25, 2012 12:36 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Bubba Clinton at October 25, 2012 12:37 PM (BrqlK)
The quote about not being able to dismiss the advice of "Derek Jeter," well, Obama defeated HRC *and* her husband. Anyone as full of himself as that--who thinks he knows more about every position in his cabinet than the cabinet secretary does--he's not going to have trouble dismissing the advice of Bill Clinton.
Even so, what advice would you expect Bill "Triangulation" Clinton to give you? How did Bill win re-election in 1996, which many saw this election to be an echo of? That is, Clinton won as a hopey-changey guy in a weak economy, tried to pass an unpopular health care plan, and was trounced in the mid-terms. He won re-election by pivoting to the center and painting Gingrich and Dole as right-wing extremists. So, if your Obama and you ask which path to choose, what do you expect him to say?
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 25, 2012 12:41 PM (vouc9)
In another potential blow for the president's Ohio reelection campaign, Jeep, the rugged brand President Obama once said symbolized American freedom, is considering giving up on the United States and shifting production to China.
Such a move would crash the economy in towns like Toledo, Ohio, where Jeeps are made and supplied, and rob the community of the economic security they thought Obama's auto bailout assured them.
http://tinyurl.com/c62log4
Posted by: mallfly at October 25, 2012 12:42 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Firing Prezident Don't Know Much About Dat Math Stuff in November at October 25, 2012 12:43 PM (bCY8U)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Binder Hobbit and ABO Supporter at October 25, 2012 04:29 PM (4df7R)
You geek cred is impeccable.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 25, 2012 12:46 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: mallfly at October 25, 2012 12:46 PM (bJm7W)
417 - here is how it was done:
Jack Crabb: General, you go down there.
General Custer: You're advising me to go into the Coulee?
Jack Crabb: Yes sir.
General Custer: There are no Indians there, I suppose.
Jack Crabb: I didn't say that. There are thousands of Indians down there. And when they get done with you, there won't be nothing left but a greasy stain. This ain't the Washite River, General, and them ain't helpless women and children waiting for you. They're Cheyenne brave, and Sioux. You go down there, General, if you've got the nerve.
General Custer: Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner. You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really *don't* want me to go down there!
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 25, 2012 12:46 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: mallfly at October 25, 2012 12:47 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: USS Diversity at October 25, 2012 04:18 PM (0CiTm)
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I lost interest in The Walking Dead by the end of the first season. I stopped caring about any of the adult characters -- they all seemed to be a bunch of dumbf*cks making stupid decisions. The faster they die and stop bothering me the better.
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