July 25, 2012

The Chick-fil-A Gay Marriage Controversy
— Gabriel Malor

We haven't covered the Chick-fil-A controversy here and I wasn't planning to. The company supports social policies supported by about half the country; the loudest voices on the other half are acting like monkeys flinging poo over it. It was a stupid story full to the gills of stupid people saying stupid things.

But this has gotten way out of hand. The mayor of Boston is telling Chick-fil-A to stay out of his city. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel today supported the decision of an alderman to block a building permit for a new Chick-fil-A restaurant.

That is wrong. Denying a business a building permit over its owners' political views is a blatant violation of the First Amendment.

Even when it comes to government contracting — where the government is choosing how to spend government money — the government generally may not discriminate based on the contractor’s speech, see Board of County Commissioners v. Umbehr (1996). It is even clearer that the government may not make decisions about how people will be allowed to use their own property based on the speaker’s past speech.

And this is so even if there is no statutory right to a particular kind of building permit (and I don’t know what the rule is under Illinois law). Even if the government may deny permits to people based on various reasons, it may not deny permits to people based on their exercise of his First Amendment rights. It doesn’t matter if the applicant expresses speech that doesn’t share the government officials’ values, or even the values of the majority of local citizens. It doesn’t matter if the applicant’s speech is seen as “disrespect[ful]” of certain groups. The First Amendment generally protects people’s rights to express such views without worrying that the government will deny them business permits as a result. That’s basic First Amendment law — but Alderman Moreno, Mayor Menino, and, apparently, Mayor Emanuel (if his statement is quoted in context), seem to either not know or not care about the law.

I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A.* What I don't do is deny Chick-fil-A's right to do business with other folks. If these mayors had their way, they'd go so far as to deny Chick-fil-A's right to exist. That's oppression. That's wrong, and we should say so.

*I didn't have to think about it when I lived in L.A. because there was no Chick-fil-A nearby. I was aware of the company's charitable giving to activist groups opposed to gay marriage. So when I moved to D.C. near a Chick-fil-A, I decided not to eat there since I don't want to help fund such groups.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 03:42 PM | Comments (507)
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1 The standard leftard argument:  Shut up.

Posted by: Cicero at July 25, 2012 03:44 PM (QKKT0)

2 Teh gheys don't like teh chicks? Who knew?

Posted by: Craig Poe at July 25, 2012 03:44 PM (BVkEs)

3 Separation of food and state FTW.

Posted by: Adc at July 25, 2012 03:45 PM (JJJ5P)

4 Chik Fil A is awesome, fuck you all. Forget gay marriage, any politician that stands between a normal American and a chick fil A is unelectable.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 03:45 PM (P2Tu5)

5 It's Chicago, and Gabe's loss. The chicken is excellent.

Posted by: toby928© at July 25, 2012 03:46 PM (QupBk)

6 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 03:46 PM (6o4Fb)

7 There's no Chick-fil-a near me that I know of. I wish there were to I could patronize the hell out of it.

Posted by: ErikW at July 25, 2012 03:46 PM (HWC45)

8 Look, as a conservative, I wonder, are there counter arguments. Can cities ban commies or Muslims or whatever else it is we conservatives would like to ban because of their noxious un-americanisms?

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 03:46 PM (P2Tu5)

9 I have nothing against Chik fil-A per se.  I just happen to like my chicken served by a muscular hairy man in assless chaps.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at July 25, 2012 03:47 PM (QKKT0)

10 They are in Socal now, and its awesome!

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 25, 2012 03:47 PM (ZhEoC)

11 These lefty politicians are sure wrapping themselves in the ghey marriage flag. I wonder how their base feels about that.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 03:48 PM (P2Tu5)

12 Chick-fil-A: Where you can be sure the mayo really is mayo.

Posted by: toby928© at July 25, 2012 03:48 PM (QupBk)

13 And any comparisons to lunch counters in the south in the 60s are BS.  They serve anybody.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 03:48 PM (MMC8r)

14 It's absolutely fine for individuals to decide not to eat thete obviously.They aren't the first business the left has targeted to keep out of their territory(ahem Walmart).

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 03:48 PM (6o4Fb)

15 Best responses to the Chik-fil-A flap come from Ioawahawk twitter. if being funny was a crime he'd do life: http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2012 03:48 PM (SGXY/)

16 Alderman Moreno is a douche.

Posted by: wooga at July 25, 2012 03:48 PM (vjyZP)

17

Could we get an opinion on the Chick Fil A story that actually is pro-chick fil a (aka not Libertarian)?

This business is being assaulted into being destroyed by these GLBT groups and the best you can do is say: "Well I don't agree with them either but..."

 

Posted by: joe at July 25, 2012 03:49 PM (BBlzg)

18 This whole thing is an epic fail by the activists imho. First, because as you've pointed out they've gone from a simple (but stupid imho) boycott, to government officials trampling on the 1st Amendment. And second because the timing is off. Everyone on the planet knows about Chick-Fil-A's founder's moral convictions. Moreover, there has never been any inkling that his company discriminates against gays in the workplace or in the restaurants. Nothing of significance has happened to precipitate this sudden outrage. I can only judge by my own little two person household. We don't eat much "fast food" -- we like to cook at home and eat very well there. Occasionally we will indulge in KFC or the nearest burger joint. The husband is much less politically tuned in than I am and gets much of his info from mainstream media sources... but today *he* suggested that we head over to Chick-Fil-A and order $100 worth of food. I think they blew this big time.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2012 03:49 PM (5H6zj)

19 I find their commercials humorous as well."Eat moar chicken!".

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 03:49 PM (6o4Fb)

20 If this topic is causing your eyes to effing roll at warp 9...like mine... here are two things everyone should alternately do immediately and simultaneously: #1 Gaze upon the new Hobbit poster http://twitpic.com/abqz2s #2 Listening to this by Blind Guardian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjEGmX3JgXI

Posted by: Adc at July 25, 2012 03:50 PM (JJJ5P)

21 I disagree but God bless you Gabe.

Posted by: lurker_above at July 25, 2012 03:50 PM (bACG+)

22 So This Gabe guy is encouraging people who come to a conservative site to boycott chik-fil-a because it is against same sex marriage? Where the fuck am I?

Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 03:50 PM (jo0fs)

23

what times we live in when taking the postion that marriage should be between a man and a woman lands you in hot water. i'll go out of my way to patronize their stores whenever I can.

Posted by: exceller at July 25, 2012 03:50 PM (TnUcI)

24 I gave Chick-Fil-A my money last weekend and may have to do so for another few weekends, just cuz.

Posted by: ArcadeHero at July 25, 2012 03:50 PM (zt7SE)

25 Liberals will not take Gabe's approach but always have to force others to bow to their preferences. Your rights? What do you mean, your rights? Yeah, they're tolerant all right.

Posted by: chique on her phone at July 25, 2012 03:50 PM (ZZPs4)

26 EAT MOAR CHICKS

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 03:50 PM (sdi6R)

27 I like Chik-Fil-A as fast food restaurants go and I will now make an extra special effort to eat there. We have many here in Houston. 

Posted by: Dave in Houston at July 25, 2012 03:51 PM (wB5dd)

28 Chick fil a has good food. I ate there all the time when I lived in a city. Good Food . Good service.

Posted by: Pecos at July 25, 2012 03:51 PM (2Gb0y)

29 Wait...Gabe...you have access to Chick-fil-A and don't eat there?

This...I don't...words fail...

I'm just going to go back to staring at the Chick-fil-A restaurant map and weeping inconsolably now.

Posted by: Slublog at July 25, 2012 03:52 PM (SjVZP)

30 Here.   I'll eat all of Gabe's share of Chick Fil A.  No, no, don't thank me, it's my honor to suffer for the cause.


The cause = tasty tasty waffle fries.  And shakes.  And sammiches.



Across.  The.  Street.  From.  My.  Church.  It's just *mean*.

Posted by: alexthechick at July 25, 2012 03:52 PM (Gk3SS)

31 22 Encouraging does no harm,let him encourage.

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 03:52 PM (6o4Fb)

32 I ate lunch there today--excellent.

Posted by: Scobface at July 25, 2012 03:52 PM (IoNBC)

33 So when I moved to D.C. near a Chick-fil-A, I decided not to eat there since I don't want to help fund such groups. And that's your absolute right. Individual choice and all that.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 03:52 PM (sdi6R)

34 Maybe they should change their name to Dick-Fill-A

Posted by: biscuiteater at July 25, 2012 03:52 PM (SMSFm)

35 Eat at Gabe's Gay Hot Dog Stand instead?

Posted by: Craig Poe at July 25, 2012 03:52 PM (BVkEs)

36 Too bad we aren't all as rational as Gabe.

Posted by: California red at July 25, 2012 03:53 PM (/jmMj)

37 Did I accidentally enter Daily KOS?!

Posted by: WesternCon at July 25, 2012 03:53 PM (zsoCL)

38 So....are these cities going to start shoving out the Catholics and Muslims? 

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 03:53 PM (MMC8r)

39 So, we're moving right along to "active persecution of believing Christians" part of the program then, are we? You knew it was coming ... wonder if they're refusing permits to falafel places and halal markets?

Posted by: Chicagorefugee at July 25, 2012 03:53 PM (FeFBS)

40 Curious that Boston and Chicago do not have a problem with approving permits owned by Muslims who last I heard have a bigger issue with gays than the right to marry.  Seems they have an issue with gays right to exist.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at July 25, 2012 03:53 PM (C2//T)

41 EAT MOAR CHICKS


Go on. 

Posted by: alexthechick at July 25, 2012 03:53 PM (Gk3SS)

42 I just don't get why gays want to be forced into marriage.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 03:54 PM (T0NGe)

43

And fuck the militant gays who feel like they have to insert their protestations into every segment of society to make their position known.

 

I don't give a fuck if you want to bang someone of your same sex. That's your buisness. Don't make it mine.

 

You'd do yourselves a favor by just shutting the fuck up about it.

Posted by: ErikW at July 25, 2012 03:54 PM (HWC45)

44 Did I accidentally enter Daily KOS?!

That was my thought

Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 03:54 PM (jo0fs)

45 22 So This Gabe guy is encouraging people who come to a conservative site to boycott chik-fil-a because it is against same sex marriage? Where the fuck am I? Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 07:50 PM (jo0fs) I must have missed the part where Gabe advocated a boycott. He said he made a personal decision not to buy there, which is his right.

Posted by: Scobface at July 25, 2012 03:54 PM (IoNBC)

46 "So This Gabe guy is encouraging people who come to a conservative site to boycott chik-fil-a because it is against same sex marriage? Where the fuck am I?"  Amen to that.

Posted by: Scott at July 25, 2012 03:54 PM (uXkdX)

47 Oh, I get it, Christians selling food, bad. Muslims selling food, uhmmm what?

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 03:54 PM (P2Tu5)

48 I have an odd connection between Chick-fil-A and Orange Julius in my head, because I tried both for the first time the same day at the food court in a very early mall.

Posted by: toby928© at July 25, 2012 03:55 PM (QupBk)

49 Gabe, which of your own social/political views do you feel deserves to be punished? Will you let the Twitterverse know how to punish you economically, like you do when you encourage others not to eat at Chik-fil-a? If not, why not?

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 03:55 PM (KZi9D)

50 Soze, you missed Gabe's point. In his personal life, he encourages people not to, which is his right and his business. I don't agree with it and I consider gay marriage to be an oxymoron. His point is the persecution of a company by govt officials because of the company's views. This is not an argument about gay "marriage".

Posted by: chique on her phone at July 25, 2012 03:55 PM (ZZPs4)

51 Dr Malor, the current administration and political regeim have denied business RIGHTS from LBJ, Now we have the Black Hitler of devo business.

Posted by: Clemenza at July 25, 2012 03:56 PM (jlQ7t)

52 I want one of those peach milkshakes.

Posted by: packsoldier at July 25, 2012 03:56 PM (0sJeX)

53 "I must have missed the part where Gabe advocated a boycott. He said he made a personal decision not to buy there, which is his right."

You must not be able to read too well.

Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 03:56 PM (jo0fs)

54 Chic- fil- a = bad. CITGO = good Communist ownership v Christian ownership

Posted by: tmitsss at July 25, 2012 03:57 PM (34AUO)

55 You must not be able to read too well. Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 07:56 PM (jo0fs) One of us doesn't read well, I agree.

Posted by: Scobface at July 25, 2012 03:57 PM (IoNBC)

56 Did I accidentally enter Daily KOS?!

That was my thought

Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 07:54 PM (jo0fs)

It is not that bad, but it is a form of silliness. It is exactly like the "I'm personally opposed to but" type argument to a lot of issues, ignoring what the issue is in broad terms.

These GLBT groups won't stop attacking businesses, schools, and churches because they see being against Gay Marriage as akin to racism that must by systematically stamped out.

 

Posted by: joe at July 25, 2012 03:57 PM (BBlzg)

57 This isn't the part of the story that's interesting. The part of the story that's interesting is that Chick Fil-A has been run by evangelical Christians for longer than I've been alive...

...and yet, the concerted astroturfed campaign against it sprung fully formed about a week and a half ago. Where do the perpetually outraged go to get their marching orders? Where did this one start?

...and I give money every Sunday to the Catholic Church. By the ridiculously strict standards of this protest, everyone should boycott me too for be an anti-gay h8r.

Posted by: Palandine at July 25, 2012 03:57 PM (g7D8V)

58 look, the less people who eat there, the better it is for me. Those lines are a bitch.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 03:57 PM (P2Tu5)

59 Let me say this as a Christian - get the government out of marriage all together and just do civil unions. Then everyone can be happy. Traditional folks can view marriage how they believe, and non traditional people can define words to mean nothing and everything. I honestly couldn't give a crap about this issue at the anymore. Individual Liberty is going to sh*t, and a the whole internet is obsessed with boycotting a fried chicken vendor cause of the views of the owner. America, and thus Liberty... is utterly doomed.

Posted by: Adc at July 25, 2012 03:58 PM (JJJ5P)

60 8 Can cities ban commies or Muslims or whatever else it is we conservatives would like to ban because of their noxious un-americanisms?   --------   You mean like preventing folks from building a mosque near ground zero?  

Posted by: Anachronda at July 25, 2012 03:58 PM (xGZ+b)

61 One of us doesn't read well, I agree.

Well maybe you should get a government loan and take some night classes.

Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 03:58 PM (jo0fs)

62 Since Chik-Fil-A didn't build their business (government did), why not BOYCOTT THE GOVERNMENT?

Posted by: filbert at July 25, 2012 03:58 PM (smvTK)

63 I feel your pain, atc. The only time I'm near one is usually when I go to church. On Sundays. Sigh. I don't like chicken but I've had theirs. And it is exquisitely delicious.

Posted by: chique on her phone at July 25, 2012 03:58 PM (Hw3Gh)

64 What really surprises me is that you would post such a strong opposition to a more conservative and conventional idea of Estrogen and testosterone marriage. It is the way of our country and people from the inception.

Posted by: Clemenza at July 25, 2012 03:58 PM (jlQ7t)

65 I bet Gabe doesn't take the same stance about liberals in hollywood giving to causes he disagrees with that he takes with a frickin' fast food joint.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 03:59 PM (GULKT)

66

Just the begining of the discrimination followed by imprisonment and death.

“I expect to die in bed. My successor will die in prison, and his successor will die a martyr in the public square.”
  Cardinal George

Posted by: RCfaithful at July 25, 2012 03:59 PM (kduZC)

67 As they say, you attract more flies with honey mustard dipping sauce than you do with vitriolic rage.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 03:59 PM (T0NGe)

68 I think that when people equate a "rejection of civil rights" with moral, personal or Religious opposition to gay marriage they are setting the stage for Menino and Emanuel, etc. to impose bizarre "social licensing" standards on citizens.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 25, 2012 03:59 PM (HethX)

69 Well maybe you should get a government loan and take some night classes. Posted by: Soze at July 25, 2012 07:58 PM (jo0fs) Ah. I wasn't aware that I'd entered into an argument with a person clearly intellectually superior to me. I retire from the field, sir.

Posted by: Scobface at July 25, 2012 03:59 PM (IoNBC)

70 At the risk of sounding all soothy, is Orange Julius still around?

Posted by: toby928© at July 25, 2012 04:00 PM (QupBk)

71 Waffle fries. I'm suddenly filled with a need for waffle fries.  But to get them, I would have to drive to another state. I am now sad.

Posted by: Slublog at July 25, 2012 04:00 PM (SjVZP)

72 There's a pickle on it.

A.PICKLE.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:01 PM (MMC8r)

73 Saw this al Legal Insurrection,they hate them because they are Christian. The attack on Chick-fil-A for the beliefs of its owners is part of a larger cultural attack which mocks and derides evangelical Christians, as evidenced in this college professorÂ’s blog post at HuffPo: I ate at a Chick-fil-A restaurant the other day and my life was transformed. You see, at Chick-fil-A you get so much more than mouthwatering, delicious fast food. In addition to chicken, biscuits and fries, you also get a whopping helping of evangelism. Wow! There is no reason to go to church anymore. I can get my dose of religion and values by driving through my local Chick-fil-A! That is mild compared to many of the attacks.

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 04:01 PM (6o4Fb)

74 I encourage others not to read Gabby's latest whining about same-sex pseudo-marriage.

Posted by: Gerry at July 25, 2012 04:01 PM (Yr5gp)

75 Slu, I'll meet you at the Chick-fil-A in Burlington, MA.

Call me when you hit the state line.

(sorry, I had to do it)

Posted by: Andy at July 25, 2012 04:01 PM (OZPoa)

76 72 I take the pickles off.

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (6o4Fb)

77 Chick Fil A is so much better, in evry way, than any other fast food place you would think the gays ran the place.

Posted by: redgrains at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (TExGL)

78 A constitutional crucible of cluckster flock!

Posted by: derit at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (ruiF1)

79 That sandwich?  You didn't make that.

Posted by: Emperor Barackup at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (/inUg)

80 Waffle fries. I'm suddenly filled with a need for waffle fries. But to get them, I would have to drive to another state. I am now sad.



Here.  You may comfort yourself upon my bosom.  Once I get back from getting some waffle fries.


Posted by: alexthechick at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (Gk3SS)

81 @69 Scobface, truly fine set of vowels..

Posted by: Clemenza at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (jlQ7t)

82 I eat at Chick Fil A because of their political and religious views. Id rather spend my money with a company I agree with morally then someplace I don't.


Posted by: Chris at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (aKmoL)

83 That's right, this is not about gay or any of that. It is about free  enterprise and control. I will eat where I choose, select from the menu of lifes choices and suffer the consequences, whether it is the feta cheese salad or the sloppy joe, or the napalm on the village that is infested with  terrorists. Mr. Mayor, of whatever city you happened to con them into voting you in-in, just shut it. This is a perfect position from which to illuminate the problem. The railroad seems to be going in only one direction and that is just wrong. (blame it on the makers mark!)

Posted by: and irresolute at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (Q492A)

84 Google maps informs me that it is 6.0 miles, 11 minutes to the closest Chick-Fil-A. BBL

Posted by: toby928© at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (QupBk)

85
Boycott chik a fil! eat a dick instead.

Posted by: yong chang at July 25, 2012 04:02 PM (5B4pO)

86 I "encourage" everyone here to vote for Obama.

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 04:03 PM (jo0fs)

87 By the way, I'm old enough to remember when advocating for same-sex marriage was an example of anti-gay bigotry.

And I'm not that old.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:03 PM (T0NGe)

88 I'm only willing to boycott Chick-Fil-A on Sundays.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 04:03 PM (GULKT)

89 I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A. Scobface, before you reitre, you night want to re-examine Gabe's statement above. This is advocating a boycott...encouraging others to do as you do, because it's what YOU believe to be the right thing to do. AKA...Advocating a boycott. OK, now you can retire.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:03 PM (KZi9D)

90 We need to get rid of about a million petty tyrants. We were worried about trading one tyrant 3000 miles away for a thousand tyrants three miles away, instead we got hundreds or thousands in every city. As far as the reason for the petty tyrant bitch-fit, I fall back on my dormant libertarianism - get government the fuck out of marriage. Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'. Don't tell the Catholics they have to marry John and Jim, and don't tell the Divine Castro Church of the Non-Judgement they can't. They can each publish flyers claiming the other one isn't For Reals, and no one else has to give a shit. Giving government power over the subject in the first place is how we get boned on everything else.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 25, 2012 04:03 PM (bxiXv)

91 It's a damn shame. I dont eat fast food, butsometimes i really crave achik fil a. Always on Sunday. Spicy chicken sammich is instant hangover cure. Plus, best service in the fast food world. The gubmint should force them to serve thier tasty sammiches on Sunday. Otherwise, it's discrimination against hungover-Americans. And to those idiots blathering about how Gabe holding a different opinion means this place is like Kos, kindly go fornicate yourself with a twisted piece of rebar.

Posted by: DC in Towson at July 25, 2012 04:03 PM (N/WI2)

92

At the risk of sounding all soothy, is Orange Julius still around?

 

Posted by: toby928© at July 25, 2012 08:00 PM (QupBk)

 

 

I don't know but I bet Spurwing does.

Posted by: ErikW at July 25, 2012 04:04 PM (HWC45)

93 Slu, I'll meet you at the Chick-fil-A in Burlington, MA.

Hmmm...it's only a few hours away...

Posted by: Slublog at July 25, 2012 04:04 PM (SjVZP)

94 ** 60 8 Can cities ban commies or Muslims or whatever else it is we conservatives would like to ban because of their noxious un-americanisms? -------- You mean like preventing folks from building a mosque near ground zero? ** yeah, exactly. I wonder about politicians banning these things because you know, turnabout and all that. But it seems to me that conservative thought is getting more and more rought treatment from the left. If we can, then let's start banning commies too.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 04:04 PM (P2Tu5)

95 Scobface, before you reitre, you night want to re-examine Gabe's statement above. This is advocating a boycott...encouraging others to do as you do, because it's what YOU believe to be the right thing to do.

Oh, for Pete's sake, stop being as pedantic as an Obama campaign adviser.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:04 PM (T0NGe)

96 Also over at LI,Obama and Waareen stole the "you didn't build it" schtick from a Berkely professor.Almost word for word.

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 04:05 PM (6o4Fb)

97 I am so glad the guy left El Lay we have a Chic fila now in Pasadena area..lined up like ants at a Lutheran pic nic to get some...

Posted by: Clemenza at July 25, 2012 04:05 PM (jlQ7t)

98

Why don't they ban the Post Office in Chicago?  The USPO doesn't recognize gay marriage, so they are obviously a discrimatory organization.

Wait, what?  Gay marriage isn't legal in Illinois?   The city should ban itself, divide by 0, and cease to exist.

Posted by: Grim at July 25, 2012 04:05 PM (gyNYk)

99

This is an all-out attack on capitalism from the leftist assholes like Ayers...

 

They have friends in the media, very compassionate people, but still very much leftist assholes.

 

The crap their allies in the universities shot out into the ears and soft brains of coeds and dumbassed guys with parents who have jobs is now getting a bit of a view of popular culture.

 

Interesting ride we will be going on. Refreshing and at least it's honest.

 

 

 

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzzbunny at July 25, 2012 04:05 PM (ApGOC)

100 Chick Fil A is awesome.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 25, 2012 04:06 PM (DGIjM)

101 Oh, for Pete's sake, stop being as pedantic as an Obama campaign adviser. Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 08:04 PM (T0NGe) Please, go on...you have so much to teach.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:06 PM (KZi9D)

102 hey wait, does this mean the blue states no longer want bailout money from us?

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 04:06 PM (P2Tu5)

103 How many of these boycotters love Roman Polanski movies?

Just wondering where the line is.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:06 PM (MMC8r)

104 Here. You may comfort yourself upon my bosom.  Once I get back from getting some waffle fries.

Mmmm...waffle fries...wait, were you saying something else as well?

Posted by: Slublog at July 25, 2012 04:06 PM (SjVZP)

105 "about half the country" supports traditional values? Gabriel, my ass it's that low.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 25, 2012 04:07 PM (Sn7sG)

106 I've tried the personal boycotts or buycotts before.  Decided life was way too short to politicize most of my purchases.  If I feel like a chicken sandwich and Chick-Fil-A is there, then I am going in.  Or some other place with chicken that supports the other side.

eh, I get hungry.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2012 04:07 PM (/inUg)

107 I support Chick-fil-a everytime I'm in in Utah, since if it's cool for two dudes to marry each other how can you be opposed to polygamy???

Posted by: DAve at July 25, 2012 04:08 PM (w5aay)

108 So all the people who are upset that the founder of CFA has a traditional opinion about traditional marriage but didn't eat there to begin with are going to continue to not eat there?. Is that like the people who never listened to Rush or bought products from his sponsors are going to continue not to,listen and to not buy products. Ooooooookay!! Is he forbidding gays to marry in his stores too? BWAHAHAHAHA. I used to be in favor of gay marriage. Then the whacko gays rights folks turned me off and I think there should only be civil unions with marriages in the church.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2012 04:08 PM (SGXY/)

109 @90, and that's exactly what's at stake here. The strongest proponents of gay marriage want Father O'Flannery to be FORCED to marry them in a church, regardless of what the faith teaches.

Before this year, it would have been inconceivable that a government bureaucracy could force the largest faith in the country to violate a 2000-year-old precept as part of the cost of providing health care, education, and charity to millions of people. The same liberals who said that would never happen now say it's a matter of justice that it is. That's the endgame of gay marriage.

I so don't care who sleeps with who, and who inherits whose stuff. The militant gays want to compel me to care, and that's unjust.

Posted by: Palandine at July 25, 2012 04:08 PM (g7D8V)

110 My lunch today at Chick-Fil-A

http://tinyurl.com/crotgd8


Posted by: chemjeff at July 25, 2012 04:08 PM (d/5qf)

111 I don't think homosexual marriage is the same atrocity that pro-slavery was, but these pro-homosexual people seem to do so. If I was a mayor of a city would I want to allow a fast food shop that was owned by a person that very vocally wanted to enslave people? But this has never really been about marriage rights or even equality. This is about normalizing homosexuality to a point that it is seen no differently than heterosexuality. I don't think this will ever happen. These mayors are simply scoring political points where it will never cost them anything of value. Look at me I am with you homosexuals.

Posted by: Mekan at July 25, 2012 04:09 PM (T/L2Z)

112 If they started serving chicken weiners, would the militant gays STFU?

Posted by: USS Diversity at July 25, 2012 04:09 PM (2d71t)

113 53 "I must have missed the part where Gabe advocated a boycott. He said he made a personal decision not to buy there, which is his right." You must not be able to read too well. I guess I can't either. I didn't find anything objectionable in the original post. There's a Chik-Fil-A very close to me, but I haven't eaten there much because it doesn't happen to be on my usual driving routes. I should make a point of eating there more often, mainly because it's really good, not because of the politics of the owner. Have I mentioned Jake's Wayback Burger? Why, yes I have, ad nauseam, whenever the topic of hamburgers comes up. There does happen to be one conveniently located for lunch, and I eat there frequently, although I have no idea what the owner's politics are.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 04:09 PM (sdi6R)

114 wait, were you saying something else as well?


Yes.  I have a milkshake too. 

Posted by: alexthechick at July 25, 2012 04:09 PM (Gk3SS)

115 Huh, I've gone all my life loving Chick-fil-A and not having a clue as to their political affiliation. 

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 25, 2012 04:09 PM (bMLFV)

116 People's political opinions are only life-or-death important if you give the government life-or-death power over you. If the bureaucrat has no power to say what color your house can be or who you can call married, the business owner's political position means dick. The more power the government has, the more reason you have to hate your neighbors.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 25, 2012 04:10 PM (bxiXv)

117 "I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A.* " Duly noted and filed in the appropriate container.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 25, 2012 04:10 PM (DGIjM)

118 Personally, I enjoy Hot-Dog on a Stick.  Their main entree makes the perfect sex toy for any gender - married or unmarried!

Posted by: The Peasants at July 25, 2012 04:11 PM (fRlaj)

119 Odd how the people so exorcized about teh gayz seem to have something lodged up their ass.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:11 PM (MMC8r)

120 117 "I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A.* " Duly noted and filed in the appropriate container. Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 25, 2012 08:10 PM (DGIjM) Pedant!

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:11 PM (KZi9D)

121 Does it bring all the boys to the yard? That is the real question.

Posted by: DC in Towson at July 25, 2012 04:11 PM (N/WI2)

122 I've tried the personal boycotts or buycotts before. Decided life was way too short to politicize most of my purchases. If I feel like a chicken sandwich and Chick-Fil-A is there, then I am going in. Or some other place with chicken that supports the other side.

I'm the same way.  I pretty much despise everything Ben and Jerry support, but you can have my Coffee Heath Bar Crunch ice cream when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. 

Posted by: Slublog at July 25, 2012 04:11 PM (SjVZP)

123 Oh shit, Rubio fans: Jeb Bush wants him for veep...

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 25, 2012 04:11 PM (Sn7sG)

124 "300 murders since Jan 1, and SuperRahm leaps to action to save Chicago from Chik Fil A." Thanks, Iowahawk.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2012 04:11 PM (SGXY/)

125 Yes. I have a milkshake too. Posted by: alexthechick at July 25, 2012 08:09 PM (Gk3SS) I've been trying not to say anything but you are KILLING me over here!!!! Come to the Dark Side - we have Chick-Fil-A gift certificates!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 25, 2012 04:12 PM (bxiXv)

126 I honestly have to say that a business that voluntarily closes down on Sundays so that its employees can spend time with families and Deity isn't going to be muchly concerned with a very small (although really loud) super-minority* whining that they aren't being pandered to enough...

(* - Super Minority = a group so small that even when its most casual supporters (those that do not practice, but will support and defend) are included, their numbers still do not rise to the minimum 50% majority level anywhere it has been reliably measured.)

Posted by: Drumwaster at July 25, 2012 04:12 PM (Nxs01)

127 I used to be in favor of gay marriage. Then the whacko gays rights folks turned me off and I think there should only be civil unions with marriages in the church.

I had no problem with civil unions, but now I can't even get up the energy to defend the concept. The second we started talking about "rights", forget it. I'm foursquare against plural marriage and if you talk about "marriage rights" then you have to accept plural marriage.

You'd think we're talking about bestiality the way advocates are screwing the pooch here.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:12 PM (T0NGe)

128 So you don't eat any food from Christian-owned businesses, Gabe? How -- Fucking Nazi of you, cunt.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at July 25, 2012 04:12 PM (Ax1eK)

129
Rep. Dennis Ross (R-Fla.) tweeted on Wednesday that he enjoyed a “wonderful Chik-fil-A [sic] lunch” at the Republican National Committee earlier in the day. He also delivered a warning against attempting to punish the expression of free speech.

Conservatives in Washington have long been known to favor Chick-fil-a for lunches and other events.

Former GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum also sent out a letter to supporters on Wednesday urging them to join him and Mike Huckabee in celebrating Chick-fil-A day on August 1.

“No signs and no protests are needed,” he wrote. “Just simply have a meal at Chick-fil-A on August 1 for "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" and our support for traditional values will be heard loud and clear.”

The Hill



Well, there are Conservatives -- and then there are "Conservatives".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 04:13 PM (kdS6q)

130 123 Oh shit, Rubio fans: Jeb Bush wants him for veep...

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone snob at July 25, 2012 08:11 PM (Sn7sG)

 

He's probably eyeing the Senate seat.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 04:13 PM (GULKT)

131 Not only that, but the bastards are not open on Sunday.  What's with that?

I mean, oh yeah the Ten Commandments, rest of the seventh day and all that shit.

These people are obviously bitter clingers.


Ever seen one not full?  Maybe the Lord is pleased.





Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 25, 2012 04:14 PM (3ZjAP)

132 Politics ain't everything; sometimes a succulent breast is just a...huh? Sorry, I drifted off there. [fans self]

Posted by: derit at July 25, 2012 04:14 PM (ruiF1)

133 How is it that the very same people who are so adamant about boycotting conservative businesses for their political views  perceive proposed boycotts of those with perverse disgusting amoral leftist views to be fascism if we do it to movie studios, actors or musical acts?

Posted by: DAve at July 25, 2012 04:14 PM (w5aay)

134 50 Soze, you missed Gabe's point. In his personal life, he encourages people not to, which is his right and his business. I don't agree with it and I consider gay marriage to be an oxymoron.

Right, and why should anyone listen to Gabe's personal encouragement?   What is the reason Gabe offers for why AoS Morons should avoid Chik Fil A?    

Is it because Chik Fil A is fast food?  Is the food unhealthy or poor quality?   He doesn't give any explicit reason why, but considering that it's Gabe ... it's because Chik Fil A doesn't support gay marriage.    Uhm ...  That might be an excellent reason for Gabe to avoid supporting them, but that's actually a mighty good reason for the socially conservative Moron to eat there.  

Still, happy to see Gabe speaking up for Chik Fil A's legal rights.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at July 25, 2012 04:14 PM (sGtp+)

135 "Get the government out of our bedrooms" has become "Get the government in our bedrooms forcing everyone else in there too, and they'd better fucking applaud too"

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 04:15 PM (GULKT)

136 You'd think we're talking about bestiality the way advocates are screwing the pooch here. Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 08:12 PM (T0NGe) Axelrod, is that you?

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:15 PM (KZi9D)

137 My brothers, boycott these bastards. 

Posted by: The Chicken at July 25, 2012 04:15 PM (3ZjAP)

138 Next target:  Hobby Lobby.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:15 PM (MMC8r)

139 I had no problem with civil unions, but now I can't even get up the energy to defend the concept. Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 08:12 PM (T0NGe) I thought that was a good idea as a compromise, and at first wondered why it was dropped. Then I realized - there's no Power and Control in it, and you can't use it to force people who disapprove of you to kowtow and publicly apologize. At which point I lost interest in what the advocates wanted, because it was clear it wasn't what they said they wanted.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 25, 2012 04:15 PM (bxiXv)

140

 

Do they put Chick tracts in the packaging at Chik-Fil-A?

Posted by: gebrauchshund at July 25, 2012 04:16 PM (iYwUw)

141 i eat ben & jerry's ice cream...it's good ice cream and i'd be missing out on it's deliciousness if i boycotted them.....and gabe...you are missing out on delicious chicken...you just are...but that's your problem....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at July 25, 2012 04:16 PM (Ho2rs)

142 I don't care if Chick-fil-A is run by communists. I don't care if they make the breading with pulped baby bones. Shit just tastes good.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 04:16 PM (OgNv0)

143 I am eating a super sized order of waffle fries and a Chik Fil A sandwich RIGHT NOW. Suck it all you haters!

Posted by: EC at July 25, 2012 04:16 PM (R15UB)

144 Hi Gabe, I don't support gay marriage, but I do support civil unions for gays. That said, I would dine at Chick-fil-A if for no other reason to show my support for a company that is suffering from jack booted oppression from the party of nuance. Sadly there's not one nearby.

I agree with the point of your post, that it's government censorship to deny Chick-fil-A a permit based upon the personal beliefs of the owners. I hope they sue Chicago and cause the govt there to go bankrupt (they're already on the cliff, all they need is a gentle push).

Posted by: O-Dub at July 25, 2012 04:16 PM (ncf7D)

145 I'm always amazed when these things happen, to read the responses from both sides.  Nearly everyone says "I don't eat there...but"  It's amazing how many of them are liars.  On both sides.  The demonization of food is nearly complete, I suppose.  I'm just glad that God made chickens delicious, and just about everything else "tastes like them".  Chick-Fil-A nuggets are the best in the world, in case you're interested. Skinny, vegan  Lefty....

Posted by: dfbaskwill at July 25, 2012 04:16 PM (ndlFj)

146 The ban started in Boston when the usual suspects bullied Northeastern University out of allowing a location in their student center.

Of course there's no problem with allowing controversial businesses like Hooters, Planned Parenthood, et al to operate. But those aren't liberal targets of rage.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at July 25, 2012 04:16 PM (KCvsd)

147 Years ago lefties would tell you to boycott Domino's because the owner was pro-life.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:17 PM (MMC8r)

148

Constitution? so last Milenium...

 

Senate just passed the Obama Tax plan.... without the House voting on it first... which the Constitution explicitly says MUST happen....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 25, 2012 04:17 PM (lZBBB)

149 My brothers, eat at Chick-fil-A every chance you get.

Posted by: American Cows at July 25, 2012 04:17 PM (I2fq9)

150 So you don't eat any food from Christian-owned businesses, Gabe? How -- Fucking Nazi of you, cunt.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at July 25, 2012 08:12 PM (Ax1eK)



Maybe if they are quiet Christians...

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2012 04:17 PM (z1N6a)

151 I'm the same way. I pretty much despise everything Ben and Jerry support, but you can have my Coffee Heath Bar Crunch ice cream when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Wait, such a thing exists?  Talk to you guys later!

Posted by: Dave S. at July 25, 2012 04:17 PM (UvR6d)

152 But this has never really been about marriage rights or even equality. This is about normalizing homosexuality to a point that it is seen no differently than heterosexuality. I don't think this will ever happen.

I think it's even more disgusting because it's a condescendingly paternalistic pat on the head for people who think they are awarding psychological validation to others as a gift.

These mayors are simply scoring political points where it will never cost them anything of value. Look at me I am with you homosexuals.

This is right. They don't have to fix fiscal insolvency, they don't have to stop crime, they just have to express their bien pensants.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (T0NGe)

153 So, on one side, you got a bunch of people who believe that a certain lifestyle is not just inappropriate, it's downright immoral, and if you harbor any disagreements with them on this, then you're just as bad as those people are.

And on the other side, a chicken restaurant.

Posted by: Dan C. at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (c32CV)

154 They got Arby's to pull funding of conservative causes (like ALEC) and advertising on conservative radio by threatening a boycott and now Arby's are closing in droves.  When are you going to overcome your denial that we're in a culture war?

Posted by: DAve at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (w5aay)

155 141

Edy's is way better.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (MMC8r)

156 Fling poo is racist as this story is just like the white only lunch counter. Not that they will not server a sandwich to someone who is gay. But they soooo much want it to be like that.

Posted by: TJexcite at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (3qeX5)

157
Why is Gabe such a h8ter?

Posted by: Heteronormative at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (7+pP9)

158 If I believed that there were hordes of gays crying out for traditional marriage in good faith I might be more open to the idea.  But gays aren't lining up to get married even where it's legal.  And gays don't even seem to be very interested in entering contractual relationships that legally mimic marriage in places where gay marriage isn't legal.  So why are gays so insistent on having the "marriage" box ticked off?

Everything I see tells me that gay marriage is one more front on the Left's relentless attack on all of the institutions and traditions that define western culture.  If marriage can be redefined to mean almost nothing, then the institution has been mortally wounded, IMO.  Gay marriage activism is just a manifestation of Leftist nihilism, not a quest for equality.  So fuck it.  I'll support efforts to outlaw gay marriage, including Chik fil-A.

Posted by: Cicero at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (QKKT0)

159 I'd go get a sandwich right now, but the damn store is ALWAYS full.

Get extra pickles on the sandwich!  

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (3ZjAP)

160 Marriage is a rite, not a right. Idiots.

Posted by: Countrysquire at July 25, 2012 04:18 PM (bh2pA)

161 The last time I ate at Chick-fil-A, they were handing out beautifully illustrated easy reader versions of the "Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" with the kids meal.  It's been four years now and that book is still in decent shape - my daughter loves it.

Posted by: Slublog at July 25, 2012 04:19 PM (SjVZP)

162 I'm kinda scared to say this but....I've never had a Chik fil a.  Not because I don't like them (never had one) but because I've never LIVED NEAR ONE, DAMNIT!!!


Are they anywhere in CT.?

Posted by: Tami at July 25, 2012 04:19 PM (X6akg)

163 My brothers, boycott these bastards. Posted by: The Chicken at July 25, 2012 08:15 PM (3ZjAP) -------------------------- Nooo! Eat Moar Chikn Or Teh Libruls Win. Chikns r 4 teh union teacherz who tot us how to spell in publik skools.

Posted by: Poorly Educated Cows at July 25, 2012 04:19 PM (FIYvq)

164
Robert Turner, president of D.C. Log Cabin Republicans, provided his thoughts on the matter to Yeas & Nays. He sees no issue with enjoying a spicy chicken sandwich and also supporting the right of two men or women to walk down the aisle together.

"No problem at all," he said. "At the end of the day, if one looks deeply at the companies one patronizes -- eating at Chick-fil-A, shopping on Amazon, ordering a Coke with your meal -- you'll find a multitude of issues where you and that company disagree."

WashEx



Even the Log Cabins....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 04:20 PM (kdS6q)

165 We just got one here. Never eaten there but I will now.  Just for general principles.  Feekin libs.  As someone said earlier, if you need the approval of a fast food joint for your live style you have some serious self esteem issues.

Posted by: Indidel at July 25, 2012 04:20 PM (7trae)

166 @127 I had a somewhat laissez-faire attitude about gay marriage (in the political realm; morally I oppose it) until I lived in California. The Prop 8 thing turned me off to such an extent that I realized I had to pick a side and that side was for traditional marriage. Agree with you about the polygamy stuff, as well, which I oppose as much because I don't want my country Islamicized as for any moral reasons. I am for legal contracts between consenting adults that confer financial relationships, durable power of atty, and the like. I'm not a fan of spousal benefits, including insurance benefits, being conferred on non-spouses.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2012 04:20 PM (5H6zj)

167 Wait, such a thing exists? Talk to you guys later!

Every time I get it, it's a struggle not to finish the pint in one sitting. So good.

Posted by: Slublog at July 25, 2012 04:20 PM (SjVZP)

168 You'd think we're talking about bestiality the way advocates are screwing the pooch here.
Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 08:12 PM (T0NGe)

Axelrod, is that you?
Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 08:15 PM (KZi9D)

First, you clearly didn't understand. "Advocates" means advocates of same-sex marriage, who are screwing the pooch.

Second, you're obviously butthurt. Grow some callouses, newbie.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:21 PM (T0NGe)

169 Of course there's no problem with allowing controversial businesses like Hooters]/b], Planned Parenthood, et al to operate. But those aren't liberal targets of rage.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at July 25, 2012 08:16 PM (KCvsd)


FemiNazi's tried to start a Hooter's boycott.


How did that work out?  Not so good, the Hooter girls gave them the raz.


The power of tits!  Never defeated.


Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 25, 2012 04:21 PM (3ZjAP)

170 Sorry about they typos, new lap top.

Posted by: Indidel at July 25, 2012 04:21 PM (7trae)

171 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 25, 2012 08:15 PM (bxiXv)

Bingo!  Follow either the control or the money and you will comprehend almost all political arguments. 

You cannot convince me that it is impossible to write a civil contract that establishes (via a civil union) the same details as are implied by a marriage "contract".  But this would not force churches to violate their precepts, and it would not enhance the power of the government to ladle out entitlements (survivor benefits, mandated health care, etc.)!  No power or dollars to politicians = no action by politicians.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 25, 2012 04:22 PM (Cnqmv)

172 I think it's even more disgusting because it's a condescendingly paternalistic pat on the head for people who think they are awarding psychological validation to others as a gift. 25, 2012 08:18 PM (T0NGe) Yes, that is correct. Why is so much of the Left's ideology so condescending and paternalistic? It disgusts me more than any delicious chicken sandwich ever could.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:22 PM (KZi9D)

173 opps

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 25, 2012 04:22 PM (3ZjAP)

174 They have good food at a fair price and they treat their employees well.  They also support their communities, like when they donated food to the Aurora PD after the shooting last week.  I can see why you wouldn't want it in your community.

Posted by: huerfano at July 25, 2012 04:23 PM (bAGA/)

175 "I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A."

Yeah, okay. You defend their right to exist...you just encourage others to help put them out of business. Because the owner is a Christian, and acts according to his beliefs. Got it. And fuck you.

Posted by: Stu-22 at July 25, 2012 04:24 PM (k4bdL)

176 Yes, that is correct. Why is so much of the Left's ideology so condescending and paternalistic? It disgusts me more than any delicious chicken sandwich ever could.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 08:22 PM (KZi9D)



Because if they had to compare themselves to you on merit, Leftists lose.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2012 04:24 PM (z1N6a)

177 He's probably eyeing the Senate seat.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 08:13 PM (GULKT)

 

Taken!

Posted by: Connie Mack IV at July 25, 2012 04:25 PM (2d71t)

178 @174

Good point and the employee get health insurance.  The sandwich, with extra pickles, is the best hang over cure known to man.  You need to get some extra on Saturday for that Sunday morning hang over.

Well, one of their peach shakes is up there too.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 25, 2012 04:25 PM (3ZjAP)

179 this is garbage and not worthy of Ace's blog

Posted by: soothsayer at July 25, 2012 04:25 PM (jcT/0)

180 Posted by: Stu-22 at July 25, 2012 08:24 PM (k4bdL)

Amen!

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 04:25 PM (jo0fs)

181 Even the Log Cabins....

Sheesh, they have been jerks at times in the past, but when you see what idiots the Chick-fil-A haters have been the past couple of days, you don't want to be downwind of that stink.

Maybe now is the time to persuade people to your point of view.  Smug self-righteousness does no one any good.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:26 PM (T0NGe)

182 179 this is garbage and not worthy of Ace's blog

Posted by: soothsayer at July 25, 2012 08:25 PM (jcT/0)


What you a Scandi or something?  Go HOME!


http://tinyurl.com/63zklk8

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 25, 2012 04:27 PM (3ZjAP)

183 If they're agin it, I'm for it!

Posted by: USS Diversity at July 25, 2012 04:27 PM (2d71t)

184 Sorry, I went off prematurely. I conflated Gabe's reasons with those of the people mentioned in the post. My apologies, Gabe, I of course support you in choosing to buy wherever you wish. Different story with the political filth in the post, though. The fact is that "gay marriage" is a cover for the goal of outlawing Christian churches that don't lie prostrate when challenged. - The tame denominations - the ones that reject a ton of stuff that make up most Christian doctrine are the "safe" (tame) ones. Everyone else, the "wild" or "extreme" Christians are being targeted. Right now this means that it is factually illegal to be a Christian businessowner who expresses himself. He'll be attacked financially, legally, publically, and most likely physically before a week is done if he says "I like God and marriage is for two opposite sex people who ain't related." Now, this is (because of the gay leftist community) reason enough to have them treated like subhumans. That's not acceptable. Fact is if you guys dreamt up a co-equal term with different rituals and the SAME bullshit assumptions (oh, it's lurrve!) that you're using to attack marriage - there would not be anything more than a grumble from us. Call it "walursmun" or some other made-up term and we'd say "Sure, whatever." But appropriating "marriage" is done ONLY to enable the oppression and outlawing of Christians and their thoughts. Marriage cannot be "redefined". That re-definition is solely to attack. To label Christian churches as villains and monsters. Give it a different term and we wouldn't give a shit. But this is absolute bullshit - this is treating someone who is a person of genuine faith as a criminal for their first amendment expression of the same. Those who are behind this should be ignored and mocked.They're the villains - every one of them is a goddamned bigot.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at July 25, 2012 04:27 PM (Ax1eK)

185

Fuck Chicago.

 

Posted by: Shawn at July 25, 2012 04:28 PM (ysUde)

186 179 this is garbage and not worthy of Ace's blog

Posted by: soothsayer at July 25, 2012 08:25 PM (jcT/0)


seriously.


And I plan on road trippin it to a Chik-Fil-A just so gabe can be butthurt that me and that company don't support the raging homo agenda.

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at July 25, 2012 04:28 PM (6IReR)

187 Gabe has put up a new post but I'm not reading it and I encourage others not to.

Posted by: Tami at July 25, 2012 04:28 PM (X6akg)

188 First, you clearly didn't understand. "Advocates" means advocates of same-sex marriage, who are screwing the pooch. Oh, I understood you all right. You are perhaps less complex than you seem to think. My response was a triple entendre jest since "screwing the pooch" is bestiality and since Axelrod likes to bring up Seamus, who is a pooch and you earlier accused me of being an Obama advisor. Feel the nuance? Second, you're obviously butthurt. Grow some callouses, newbie. Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 08:21 PM Newbie? Where the hell have you been?

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:28 PM (KZi9D)

189 That's called capitalism, Stu. Competition means you're not hurting someone by not doing business with them, you're just expressing your values and making them better for it.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 04:28 PM (OgNv0)

190 I like Chick-fil-A and support them. I could give a flying rat's ass about their activist stances (hell if I boycotted every business that didn't stand on my side of every issue I'd have nowhere to shop or eat) however I will now actively give them more of my business and money simply because of the fascist tactics of certain groups who are trying to silence and wipe out anyone with an opposing opinion to what they believe is right.

Posted by: DangerGirl at July 25, 2012 04:28 PM (vA00j)

191

I'd eat at Chick-fil-A tonight if there was one near by. I hate this crap. All these preening self righteous asses strutting around getting there smug on. The Bible is pretty clear on the issue of homosexuality. There is no wiggle room there.

Posted by: stillers at July 25, 2012 04:28 PM (FKAOW)

192 This has nothing to do with gay marriage and everything to do with fascism.

Seriously: The Party is flexing its muscles. Don't support The Party, citizen? Too bad about that building permit. Now, if you had a proper rainbow pin in your lapel there'd be no problem. How about it, citizen?

We have to stop this. We have to stop this now. This November every single Democrat must lose. They must lose beyond their ability to rationalize it or blame Diebold or claim racism. They must be beaten like Germany and Japan in 1945.

That's the first step. The second step is to push back, HARD, against the media. Lawsuits. Lots of lawsuits -- why is Brian Ross not buried under subpoenas right now? Defunding of "public" media like NPR and PBS. Defunding of "journalism" schools.

And start enforcing laws on these fuckers: next time the New York Times leaks classified information, every single motherfucker in the building from Pinch Sulzberger to the janitor should be in handcuffs on their way to Gitmo.

They've decided to abandon civilized politics and the American way of democracy. They've decided to go for a totalitarian system. We must fight them tooth and nail. No tactics are out of bounds. I include sabotage and intimidation, by the way. If reporters start worrying about getting beheaded for mocking Christians (the way they already do for Muslims) they might start being more civil.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 25, 2012 04:29 PM (uewvH)

193 185 Fuck Chicago.

Posted by: Shawn at July 25, 2012 08:28 PM (ysUde)


We've done that, been there.

Posted by: Mayor Richard J Daily and Son at July 25, 2012 04:29 PM (3ZjAP)

194 Well, I love chick-fil-a and imma gonna patronize the hell out of 'em. Awesome spicy chicken sammiches.

Posted by: CDR M at July 25, 2012 04:29 PM (dKV5k)

195 We've been through the gay marriage farce (anyone can marry anyone, but they might have to drive a few hours to do it) and the DADT farce. So now we're at the chicken sandwich farce. It's not about love, rights or food, it's about consolidating Leftists. GOProud, etc. follow the same pattern. It's a bad joke.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 25, 2012 04:29 PM (HethX)

196 I think associating a restaurant with the politics of its owner is idiotic. Does that make the food taste different? I guess as a Christian I have a different attitude about this stuff. A good half the businesses in America or more are hostile toward Christianity to one degree or another. You shrug and do your business because that's just how people are.
this pathetic need to compel everyone to kneel before the almighty gay agenda is getting out of hand.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 04:30 PM (r4wIV)

197 And there are hawt chicks at Chick-fil-a.

Posted by: CDR M at July 25, 2012 04:30 PM (dKV5k)

198 I eat Chik-Fil-A and I could care less what knob gobblers think about this business.  I'm tired of the militant gay agenda shoving their lifestyle at everybody at every waking moment.  I encourage everyone to eat there and support a good Christian business that takes care of their employees.

I'd like a great chicken sandwich and I could care less how you choke your chicken and I really don't want it waved in my face, but queers feel the need to let everyone know that do the brown dirt highway with other guys when you order your fries.  How pathetic.

It's idiot examples like this that make millions of straight people more and more intolerant of gays and their behavior.

Oh, as soothsayer says, this gay shit is not worthy of Ace's Blog.

Posted by: Barry Baraka Hussein at July 25, 2012 04:31 PM (UiAHQ)

199 Sorry, Chick-fil-A, it's not our pleasure to serve you. 

Posted by: Chicago at July 25, 2012 04:32 PM (mjR67)

200 Chicago is out?  Chicago is out?  Chicago is out!

Posted by: chicken sandwich lovers news network at July 25, 2012 04:33 PM (/inUg)

201 Gabe has put up a new post but I'm not reading it and I encourage others not to. Co-signed.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 25, 2012 04:34 PM (8dspl)

202 There is no such thing as any Marriage except between a man and a woman. The definition of marriage. The meaning of the word. It is part and parcel of the leftist agenda to say that those in power can define reality. In everything. It is evil. It is wrong. It is anathema. It is a lie.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 25, 2012 04:34 PM (qs9G3)

203 Here's a funny I just found Re: Bloomberg:

8 oz of Coke = 100 calories

8 oz of orange juice = 122 calories

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:34 PM (MMC8r)

204 PS - I now have a mostly uncontrollable urge to go get an original sandwich with extra pickles, waffle fries and a bigass lemonade. Damn you all.

Posted by: DangerGirl at July 25, 2012 04:35 PM (vA00j)

205 So the lessons to learn for the day, are its totally ok to be gay and you can do anything but don't publicly reveal your homosexuality until you croak.  And boycotting a fast food restauraunt for supporting a conservative cause you disagree with is much more important than boycotting hollywood for supporting liberal causes you disagree with.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 04:35 PM (GULKT)

206 192 This has nothing to do with gay marriage and everything to do with fascism. Seriously: The Party is flexing its muscles. Don't support The Party, citizen? Too bad about that building permit. Now, if you had a proper rainbow pin in your lapel there'd be no problem. How about it, citizen? Yes, that's the real point here.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 04:36 PM (sdi6R)

207

Zoning is for how the land will be used. If it  is zoned for fast food and the  developer meets the specifications, that should be it. Permits issued. I am  surprised that gay activists want to go down the path of morality being a factor in who gets to start business or develop an area. Really stupid idea.   

Posted by: snowcrash at July 25, 2012 04:36 PM (I30qo)

208 Guess I'll be taking a ride down to Erie, PA this weekend to get me a sammich.

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at July 25, 2012 04:37 PM (6IReR)

209 "Gabe has put up a new post but I'm not reading it and I encourage others not to."
following through on his principle I am not reading his blog or NY post column. How exactly did he score that again? OH yeah never mind.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 04:37 PM (r4wIV)

210 206 And I think Gabe more or less made that point in his original post.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 04:37 PM (sdi6R)

211 I just don't get the Gabe hate. He agrees with the political right on damn near every one. And on that one issue, he doesn't encourage govt action to force his views on you. And for that one heresy, so you wanna kick him out of the herd (or Horde)? I call bullshit. Some prez candidate said something like "if you agree with me on 9 of 12 issues, vote for me. If you agree on 12 of 12, seek help"

Posted by: DC in Towson at July 25, 2012 04:37 PM (N/WI2)

212 and you earlier accused me of being an Obama advisor

No, as pedantic as one.  The main issue is "pedantic".

You are perhaps less complex than you seem to think.

No, I'm simple, I just communicate poorly.

Look, Gabe has a point of view.  I don't agree.  I think he thinks that same-sex marriage would be a net positive for gays but I disagree.

Marriage proves the old saying: That which is not forbidden soon becomes mandatory.

Nonetheless, he's honest and his views are well within normal discourse. Or, they would be if not for this frenzied situation we find ourselves in.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:37 PM (T0NGe)

213 Gabe, just get over it. I have paid money to go see movies by Hollywood actors that give generously to Democrats and support causes I do not agree with. Yet....I like their movies and think they are talented people who a product worthy of my money.

Posted by: EC at July 25, 2012 04:37 PM (R15UB)

214 204  Don't forget the banana pudding shake for dessert. 

Posted by: no good deed at July 25, 2012 04:38 PM (mjR67)

215 Make a product

Posted by: EC at July 25, 2012 04:38 PM (R15UB)

216 Woops that should read, every issue except one

Posted by: DC in Towson at July 25, 2012 04:38 PM (N/WI2)

217 Another thing. Why are those who preach from the gospel of tolerance the least tolerant?

Posted by: stillers at July 25, 2012 04:39 PM (FKAOW)

218 It is part and parcel of the leftist agenda to say that those in power can define reality. --- Case in point, Chaz Bono. I fully support her right to have whatever operations she wants, dress how she wants, sleep with whomsoever she wants. But it is beyond insane that someone with two X chromosomes can be legally redefined as a man. Nothing against Chaz or anyone struggling with gender issues, but this is Orwellian.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2012 04:39 PM (5H6zj)

219 201 Gabe has put up a new post but I'm not reading it and I encourage others not to.

Co-signed.

Co-co-signed

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 04:39 PM (jo0fs)

220 (Chant edited for DHS conformity) No Chick? No peas! No Chick? No peas!

Posted by: derit at July 25, 2012 04:39 PM (ruiF1)

221 Some prez candidate said something like "if you agree with me on 9 of 12 issues, vote for me. If you agree on 12 of 12, seek help"

Perhaps this is ironic, but I think a quote of that type is usually attributed to Ed Koch.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 04:40 PM (T0NGe)

222 This is Left using people to attack Christians. Boycotting Chik Fil A is anti-Christian bigotry. This would never Ever be done to Muslims.

Posted by: soothsayer at July 25, 2012 04:40 PM (oLmMq)

223 Nonetheless, he's honest and his views are well within normal discourse. Or, they would be if not for this frenzied situation we find ourselves in. Posted by: AmishDude at July 25, 2012 08:37 PM (T0NGe) Gabe's views are fine. I share many if not most of Gabe's views. Gabe's decision to pro-actively convince others to economically punish CFA for perceived slights against Gabe's POV is not OK... with me at least. Smarter people than I can disagree about that.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:41 PM (KZi9D)

224 Some of y'all really don't get the idea of personally choosing not to support a business you disagree with? Really? Personally, I don't think Cathy did anything so wrong, but, yeah...there's a small business in my city that I won't patronize because of political causes that the proprietor very vocally supports and donates to, but if the city tried to yank his business permit or deny him the ability to expand based on only that, I'd be sticking up for him, too. As far as gay marriage itself, I say civil unions for every pair of adults who want one. If you want to tie your life---as far as the government is concerned---to another person, for the purposes of taxes, insurance, poa, and the assumption of shared parenting for any child borne or adopted by one of you during your time together, then you get a civil union from the courthouse. If you want to get married, in the eyes of God, go to whatever church/temple/shaman you think He would like best (if they will have you, and they are under no legal obligation to do so) and get married.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 04:41 PM (FIYvq)

225 preening self righteous asses strutting around getting there smug on.... no wiggle room there.

Posted by: stillers at July 25, 2012 08:28 PM (FKAOW)


Wow, that comment was extra gay.


No wiggle room...heh.



Posted by: fozzy at July 25, 2012 04:41 PM (FEzSe)

226 Yeah let's boycott Chik Fil A and put God knows how many people out of a job. Makes sense from a leftist stand point. I'll enjoy my spicey chicken sandwich while the rest of you live bitter lives.

Posted by: Adam_s at July 25, 2012 04:41 PM (/YJYi)

227 Apparently chicken sandwiches *are* the hill to die on for some people.

Posted by: Y-not at July 25, 2012 04:42 PM (5H6zj)

228 But these same lefties insist we don't produce our own oil so we have to buy it from Muslim countries.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 04:43 PM (MMC8r)

229
And on the other side:

A music video spoofing Chick-fil-A's controversial views starring contestants from RuPaul's Drag Race went viral earlier this year. Sung to the tune of Wilson Phillips' "Hold On," three drag queens sing lines like, "Chow down at Chick-fil-A—even if you're gay" and "We just want a little meat without your bible."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 04:43 PM (kdS6q)

230 eAt Moar Dicken.....

Posted by: Cow wearing a Sandwich Board Sign at July 25, 2012 04:43 PM (qG+iL)

231 WTF Gabe.  Chick Fil A isn't out to get the gays.  Cripes.

Posted by: dogfish at July 25, 2012 04:43 PM (N2yhW)

232 It must be exhausting to be a liberal. I mean to wake up with so much hate in your heart every day has to to take a toll.

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 04:43 PM (jo0fs)

233 Look, Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-Fil-A, is a very rich, very old, did I mention very RICH, man. At the end of the day, when all the Socially Astute Wannabe Activists are staying home in protest of the company's position on gay marriage, there will STILL be a line stretching around the building, across the parking lot, and out into the street well in advance of the next Chick-Fil-A Grand Opening. Mr. Cathy has values, and he has stuck with them, regardless of the "evolution" of American culture. If his values make it impossible for you to enjoy a Spicy Chicken Sammich and some Waffle Fries, then stay the hell home. That's your call. Just don't get in MY way, 'cause Imma gonna get me some chicken.

Posted by: antisocialist at July 25, 2012 04:44 PM (j/nZn)

234  222 The only way to relieve it is to project the hate onto "hate groups" that aren't hate groups.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at July 25, 2012 04:44 PM (2Oas0)

235 I've never eaten there before but I will now. Intercourse Rahm, Alderdouche Moreno and the rest of the PC asswipes

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2012 04:45 PM (v7Z8v)

236 "Boycotting Chik Fil A is anti-Christian bigotry.
This would never Ever be done to Muslims. "
Which is odd because while Christians think homosexuality is wrong and try to help people stop acting out on their urges... Muslims sometimes KILL homosexuals
Its a measure of how screwed up our culture has become that its controversial to go along with millennia of human moral ideology on this issue.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 04:45 PM (r4wIV)

237 232 meant that for you, not for 222.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at July 25, 2012 04:45 PM (2Oas0)

238 Mrs. Squibob and myself went there for lunch.  Had great food and great service.

And Gabe, if my mentioning it bothers you, well, it's my First Amendment right to mention it.  Just like you encouraging others to boycott Truett Cathy's stores bothers me.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 25, 2012 04:45 PM (kqqGm)

239 Amish dude, I thought it was older, like Teddy Roosevelt maybe. If it was Ed koch, than ok, I still think its a good philosophy. Based on it, I would haved voted against Koch and for TR. Point is, I thought it was the left that demands uniformity of thought. We are the ones who say " don't like guns, don't buy one". And I don't think not buying a gun, aka boycotting gun manufacturers, makes you evil. Me, I buy guns and chik fil a, but only one is a political statement.

Posted by: DC in Towson at July 25, 2012 04:46 PM (N/WI2)

240 Pedophilia is  good thing.

Posted by: Antonio Gramsci at July 25, 2012 04:46 PM (7+pP9)

241 I am eating at this place just because Gabe pissed me off.

Posted by: Travis at July 25, 2012 04:47 PM (9WkMB)

242 Chick-fil-a has the best fast-food chicken sandwich hands down.  I can't get enough.  I support their right to their faith.  And they're all closed on Sundays; they believe their employees should be spending some quality time with their families.

Posted by: George at July 25, 2012 04:47 PM (WA19M)

243 I always thought boycotts were pretty gay.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 25, 2012 04:47 PM (KI/Ch)

244 Yeah let's boycott Chik Fil A and put God knows how many people out of a job. ------------------------------------------- Oh please. By that notion you should feel personally responsible for the failures/layoffs at every business you choose not to patronize, no matter what the reason.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 04:47 PM (FIYvq)

245
Also on the other side:

Ed Helms, Jane Lynch, Deepak Chopra, Miley Cyrus, Lindsay Lohan, Eliot Spritzer and the Kardashian sisters have all called for a boycott.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 04:47 PM (kdS6q)

246 I really resent the implication that if I eat a CFA sammich, I hate gays. I'm really tired of this "if you don't believe X...you must believe the polar opposite of X because fuck you" mentality. Criticism=hatred. WTF, America?

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:47 PM (KZi9D)

247 The only time ever boycotted anything, I refused to eat in a locally owned sandwich shop because the owner lied to me about something stupid more than once.  I figured if he'd lie to me over something as inconsequential as a forty dollar cable bill, he'd lie about other things, like the quality of his food.  But, I did not encourage other people to stay away because eating there was their business.

Posted by: huerfano at July 25, 2012 04:48 PM (bAGA/)

248 I never thought I would have see a blog on Ace's site encourage people to join liberals in a boycott against Christian beliefs. This is kinda like how LGF started to turn.

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 04:49 PM (jo0fs)

249 Ed Helms, Jane Lynch, Deepak Chopra, Miley Cyrus, Lindsay Lohan, Eliot Spritzer and the Kardashian sisters have all called for a boycott.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 08:47 PM

All people whose opinions I give not one shit about.  Or don't know who they are.

Posted by: huerfano at July 25, 2012 04:50 PM (bAGA/)

250 chick fil a has a facebook page that is being inundated by leftist tools.

The funny thing is how many of them shout BIGOT while smearing "rednecks" and Christians.

I coined a new word: Hickaphobe

Posted by: typo dynamofo at July 25, 2012 04:50 PM (78gUL)

251 Ed Helms, Jane Lynch, Deepak Chopra, Miley Cyrus, Lindsay Lohan, Eliot Spritzer and the Kardashian sisters have all called for a boycott.

---

Fuck each and every last one of them.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at July 25, 2012 04:50 PM (aHR5E)

252 138 Next target: Hobby Lobby.

Posted by: nickless at July 25, 2012 08:15 PM (MMC8r) 




No way. The homoz love them 40% off crafty coupons every couple weeks.

Posted by: That's MISTER Hobby Lobby at July 25, 2012 04:51 PM (mV5Rx)

253 Ed Helms, Jane Lynch, Deepak Chopra, Miley Cyrus, Lindsay Lohan, Eliot Spritzer and the Kardashian sisters have all called for a boycott.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 08:47 PM (kdS6q)



Well who can argue with that much intellectual fire power? A total they probably hit about a 50 IQ

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 25, 2012 04:51 PM (v7Z8v)

254 The last time homosexuals got mad at a business, they have all but shut down a clinic that fights breast cancer. For the cause. That's simply reprehensible. Feeling bad about yourself comes from inside. Deal with it yourself, don't lash out at everyone else in the world because of your mental issues.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 04:51 PM (r4wIV)

255

251 Love being lectured on morality from the likes of them.

 

The jokes just write themselves....

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at July 25, 2012 04:52 PM (2Oas0)

256 >>>>Lindsay Lohan, Eliot Spritzer and the Kardashian sisters

Ha ha Now that is a band who are qualified to discern healthy living!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at July 25, 2012 04:52 PM (78gUL)

257 >>>Boycotting Chick-fil-A is anti-Christian bigotry Disapproving of your values isn't bigotry.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 04:52 PM (OgNv0)

258 Yeah that's a regular lineup of ethical all-stars there huh? Tell us more how to live, you repugnant freaks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 04:53 PM (r4wIV)

259 "Disapproving of your values isn't bigotry. "
Tell that to the mayor of Chicago.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 04:54 PM (r4wIV)

260 ATC @114 Your milkhake brings all the morons to the yard.

Posted by: Spad13 at July 25, 2012 04:54 PM (yOZi5)

261 223 Gabe's views are fine. I share many if not most of Gabe's views. Gabe's decision to pro-actively convince others to economically punish CFA for perceived slights against Gabe's POV is not OK... with me at least. Smarter people than I can disagree about that. His encouraging others to join in his boycott is well within his First Amendment rights. And I'm equally free to ignore him.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 04:54 PM (sdi6R)

262 I once did a gig where the catering was CFA for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the stage hands were work-release prisoners with striped pants. Valdosta, Ga.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:54 PM (KZi9D)

263 "Disapproving of your values isn't bigotry"

Even when you encourage others to try to shut down my business because my values differ from yours and demonstrably harm no one? Exactly what IS it, then, if it isn't bigotry?

Posted by: That's MISTER Hobby Lobby at July 25, 2012 04:55 PM (mV5Rx)

264 Mmm, the battle of Gravy Hill. The waist in that damn war was severe...but it was worth it. There are times I think about those brave boneless beauties and the tears which are bound to hit the pants aren't far behind.

Posted by: derit at July 25, 2012 04:55 PM (ruiF1)

265 It is Fascism, pure and simple. The Chick-Fil-A people should sue Boston and Chicago into oblivion.

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at July 25, 2012 04:55 PM (tYaDf)

266 The funny thing about that group is that all those ladies could whore for Spritzer and not contract any species of VD they didn't already incubate.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at July 25, 2012 04:55 PM (78gUL)

267 Gabe, plz post this garbage on Hot Air.

Posted by: Screw Gabe and his Red Meat at July 25, 2012 04:55 PM (7+pP9)

268 His encouraging others to join in his boycott is well within his First Amendment rights. And I'm equally free to ignore him.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 08:54 PM (sdi6R)


Not sure it is polite to do it in somebody else's house.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2012 04:56 PM (z1N6a)

269 @266

Damn skippy.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at July 25, 2012 04:56 PM (aHR5E)

270 Extra Crispy Attucks...the first casualty of the Battle of Yardbird Hill.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 04:56 PM (KZi9D)

271 Via Politico: In a sharply worded letter that has gone viral, Boston Mayor Thomas Menino chided Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy for his “prejudiced statements” against same-sex marriage and said that having a branch of the fast food chain across from City Hall “would be an insult.” “I was angry to learn on the heels of your prejudiced statements about your search for a site to locate in Boston,” the letter reads. “There is no place for discrimination on Boston’s Freedom Trail and no place for your company alongside it.” The letter, which was posted on the Boston community page on Facebook Wednesday afternoon, had nearly 60,000 likes, more than 20,000 shares and some 4,500 comments just before 5:30 p.m. Menino first expressed his opposition to the restaurant last Thursday, when The Boston Herald reported that Chick-fil-A was scouting locations including across from City Hall and in Faneuil Hall — both along the Freedom Trail. (The letter was dated Friday, but only went viral on Wednesday.) Cathy has been under fire ever since telling Baptist Press that Chick-fil-A is “guilty as charged” in support of “the biblical definition of the family unit,” and later saying on the “The Ken Coleman Show” that he prays “God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about.”

Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 04:56 PM (6o4Fb)

272 The mayor of Chicago is an idiot pandering to children. You and I are reasonable adults, hopefully.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 04:57 PM (OgNv0)

273 Gay chickens are bad for business. If they kept crossing chicken swords they would eventually gay themselves out of existance.

Posted by: Chach at July 25, 2012 04:57 PM (5IoZd)

274 "The Chick-Fil-A people should sue Boston and Chicago into oblivion."

They won't and the leftists know they won't. Christians historically are very soft targets and easy to bully.

They'll just move elsewhere and their customer base will grow. THAT'LL show CfA. I guess.

Posted by: That's MISTER Hobby Lobby at July 25, 2012 04:58 PM (mV5Rx)

275 263 Refusing to patronize and trying to shut down aren't even close to the same thing. Don't equate what Gabe's doing with what the mayors and leftist groups are doing.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 05:00 PM (OgNv0)

276 275 263

"Refusing to patronize and trying to shut down aren't even close to the same thing. Don't equate what Gabe's doing with what the mayors and leftist groups are doing."

How can you not? They are both trying to hurt the business because they have different opinions.


Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 05:02 PM (jo0fs)

277 Ace lived in Boston for a long time. A LONG time.

Posted by: Scobface at July 25, 2012 05:02 PM (IoNBC)

278 Chicago and Boston probably don't need the chunk of sales tax generated by a new business anyway. 

Posted by: snowcrash at July 25, 2012 05:03 PM (I30qo)

279 So I'm hurting every business I don't give money to. Because not funding = trying to shut someone down. Roger.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 05:05 PM (OgNv0)

280 246 I really resent the implication that if I eat a CFA sammich, I hate gays. I absolutely agree, but for some reason it was so true that it made me laugh!! Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2012 05:05 PM (SGXY/)

281 "Chicago and Boston probably don't need the chunk of sales tax generated by a new business anyway."
Well, sure, they're so flush with cash they can afford to drive business away. Only homo-friendly businesses for their cities. That will fire up the tax revenue. Double ended dildos don't get made just anywhere you know.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 05:05 PM (r4wIV)

282

homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, like not eating meat. The marriage issue is nothing more than gays attempting to mainstream their behavior by under going some sham ceremony. Nothing more.

 

And calling for people to boycott a business over the owners Christian based beliefs is a post worthy of Chas Johnson.

 

Little Ace's Softballs, has a nice ring.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at July 25, 2012 05:06 PM (VrVBw)

283 Not impressed. Running down to Chick-Fil-A for breakfast, lunch, and dinner the next several days. Except Sunday. Have to double up on Saturday. Someone toss Gabe a bag of Skittles, so he can taste the Rainbow...

Posted by: Clete Orris at July 25, 2012 05:06 PM (JbIx8)

284 Where is the ACLU? How is this not a violation of civil rights? If being blocked from opening a business strictly because someone doesn't share your religious beliefs isn't a civil rights violations than I don't know what is.

Oh...that's right. The ACLU only cares about liberal civil rights. Civil rights don't apply to white Christians...I forgot. Never mind.

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 05:07 PM (jo0fs)

285 You encourage others to boycott Chik-fil-A? Seriously? Jesus. Fuck you. They make good chicken sandwiches. Jesus fucking Christ. They support traditional marriage so you boycott them? Go fuck yourself with the barbed cock of being complete fucking asshole.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 25, 2012 05:08 PM (ZPrif)

286

Can a city government refuse a lesbian bar a liquor (no pun intended) license because they SUPPORT gay marriage?

 

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 25, 2012 05:09 PM (GTxyP)

287 also to anyone who says "get the state out of the marriage business:" you have the worst opinion on this of anything

---

Aren't they the same types who bleat "keep the government out of my uterus" while simultaneously demanding government funding for abortion?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at July 25, 2012 05:10 PM (aHR5E)

288 Ed Helms, Jane Lynch, Deepak Chopra, Miley Cyrus, Lindsay Lohan, Eliot
Spritzer and the Kardashian sisters have all called for a boycott.


They can all suck my dick.  Especially the Kardashian sisters.

Except for Khloe.

Posted by: EC at July 25, 2012 05:10 PM (R15UB)

289 So now the Ace of Spades blog is endorsing anti-Christian, anti-Catholic boycotts? Really? That's how low you've descended. You've become bigoted fuckwads. Fuck you.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 25, 2012 05:10 PM (ZPrif)

290 Shorter Gabe; I support the use of blackmail to silence opinions I don't want express.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 25, 2012 05:11 PM (azHfB)

291 How can you not? They are both trying to hurt the business because they have different opinions. Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 09:02 PM (jo0fs) --------------------------- What? No, Gabe is choosing not to *participate* in that business. If he were trying to hurt it, he'd do stuff like picket it (like people did to Prop 8 donors' businesses), pressure politicians to deny them business permits, that sort of thing. Or lie about them. With the small business owner that I won't support (a salon) if people ask about him, I say that he's an excellent stylist, his employees are nice, friendly, polite...but I don't go to him anymore because of_______________. It's not setting out to hurt him, it's just refusing to participate.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 05:11 PM (FIYvq)

292 I doubt Gabe cares about the owner's opinions. He cares where his money goes.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 05:11 PM (OgNv0)

293 Do you encourage others to boycott the Catholic church? Do you encourage others to boycott the Baptists and Mormons? Do you encourage boycotts of the Boy Scouts? Do you encourage the boycotting of Romney? wtf.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 25, 2012 05:12 PM (ZPrif)

294 I'm going to boycott this pro-gay topic thread and I encourage others to do so as well.

Posted by: Nukie at July 25, 2012 05:13 PM (AzwZn)

295 "It's not setting out to hurt him, it's just refusing to participate."
And encouraging others to do the same thing. I'm fine with boycotts, they're basically worthless and people who engages in them are usually silly, but that's your choice. But really? Over this? with a restaurant? Simply absurd, it fulfills every "limp-wristed pansy runs from difficulty" stereotype. Way to swing your purse at them, Gabe.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 05:13 PM (r4wIV)

296 But apparently not wanting to contribute to causes you disagree with is bigotry, so I guess he's just a h8er after all.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 05:13 PM (OgNv0)

297 I'm fine with boycotts, they're basically worthless and people who engages in them are usually silly

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Yes but they show that your intentions are good, and that's all that counts with leftards.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at July 25, 2012 05:14 PM (aHR5E)

298

I don't give a shit what the owner believes, I like good food fast.  Delivered if possible.

 

 

Posted by: Jack at July 25, 2012 05:15 PM (wUFaM)

299 Gay marriage vs gay civil unions slightly improves the lives of a tiny fractions of Americans. 1% of women are gay and 2% of men. And only a portion of those people ever want to marry. And the existing civil unions give 95% of what marriage does. So you'll improve the lives of a fraction of 1% of Americans by about 5%. And your willing to be an anti-Christian bigot over that? What a despicable, disgusting bigot.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 25, 2012 05:16 PM (ZPrif)

300
If [Gabe] were trying to hurt it, he'd do stuff like picket it (like people did to Prop 8 donors' businesses)...
Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard





Consider a top post on a major conservative blog as a giant picket sign.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 05:16 PM (kdS6q)

301 287also to anyone who says "get the state out of the marriage business:" you have the worst opinion on this of anything

Posted by: Francisco Franco at July 25, 2012 09:07 PM (60GaT)

 

That was pretty much the prevalent attitude of government before the Civil War. Marriage licenses were pretty much unheard of.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 25, 2012 05:16 PM (GTxyP)

302 @203 and that's versus a "sugary soda"?  Interesting.  I'll take my Coke Zero anyway thank you.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 25, 2012 05:17 PM (9eDbm)

303 Do you encourage others to boycott the Catholic church? Do you encourage others to boycott the Baptists and Mormons? --------------------- How exactly would you boycott the Catholic Church? Not join? Not accept help from Catholic Charities? Refuse to shop at St. Vincent De Paul stores? Well, okay, if you disagree with the teachings, sure, don't join. I promise I won't call someone's refusal to give money to and accept services from the Catholic Church "trying to destroy" it, as long as we can all agree that refusing to give money to and accept services from Chick-fil-A is not "trying to destroy" that.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 05:17 PM (FIYvq)

304

291Ed Helms, Jane Lynch, Deepak Chopra, Miley Cyrus, Lindsay Lohan, Eliot

Spritzer and the Kardashian sisters have all called for a boycott.

 

Don't forget Roseanna Barr.  Fine group of Americans.  Great role models for the kids.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at July 25, 2012 05:18 PM (GTxyP)

305 “God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about.” Posted by: steevy at July 25, 2012 08:56 PM

Yep, because praying for people is just like the HOLOCAUST!

Posted by: huerfano at July 25, 2012 05:19 PM (bAGA/)

306 I've boycotted plenty of products and charities when I consider them to be a poor fit with my values. I have no problem with Gabe doing the same. He is missing out on a really good chicken sammie, though. 

Posted by: snowcrash at July 25, 2012 05:19 PM (I30qo)

307 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 09:16 PM (kdS6q)

DING DIG DING!!

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 05:20 PM (jo0fs)

308 Huh.  I just read about the Jim Henson Co. severing all ties with Chick-fil-A and donating money they received from the latter to GLAAD.  Bet Gabe is fucking ecstatic over that.


Guess I'll be hitting Chick-fil-A for dinner tomorrow on the way home from work.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at July 25, 2012 05:20 PM (0d0K7)

309 Flatbush Joe & Gregory of Yardale: Whoa. A boycott is an individual choice. Remember the conservative boycotts of the Dixie Chicks a few years ago after they made anti-Bush statements? Any individual has the right to support or not support any business, musical group, actor, or whatever by spending or withholding his money. Said individual also has the right to encourage others to follow his example. Others can choose to go along or not. I've been boycotting Hollywood, TV, and the music industry for years because of their lefttardism.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 05:20 PM (sdi6R)

310 Consider a top post on a major conservative blog as a giant picket sign. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 09:16 PM (kdS6q) -------------------------- Not even close to the same thing. Picketing is done in person, and it's primary purpose isn't to state the picketer's opinion but to make a commotion that will discourage or even actively prevent customers or employees from entering the business.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 05:21 PM (FIYvq)

311 Had some today for the first time.  Very good, I will be going there more often.
Spicy chicken sandwich .. was fucking great. 

Posted by: grease monkey at July 25, 2012 05:23 PM (VSWPU)

312 Not even close to the same thing. Picketing is done in person, and it's primary purpose isn't to state the picketer's opinion but to make a commotion that will discourage or even actively prevent customers or employees from entering the business. Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 09:21 PM (FIYvq) Your tribe named you well...tell me how not going to CFA at all because Gabe said not to, and not going because a picketer intimidated you is different to the botom line of the CFA ledger?

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 05:25 PM (KZi9D)

313 You don't chicken but you eat cock ?  Suit yourself, I'll stick with the chicks.

Posted by: grease monkey at July 25, 2012 05:25 PM (VSWPU)

314 italians vex me

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 05:26 PM (KZi9D)

315 Never been to CfA but I've heard good things. Gotta respect a guy that won't cave to the gay lobby, gonna have to check it out. Thanks for the heads up, Gabe.

Posted by: mugiwara at July 25, 2012 05:28 PM (KI/Ch)

316 212 Once again, I saw nothing objectionable in Gabe's original post. He explained the reasons for his boycott and encouraged me to join him. And I am still 100% free to choose to eat at Chick-fil-A if I want to. I really don't understand some of the vitriol on this thread.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 05:28 PM (sdi6R)

317 Whoops, 312, not 212 in my 320.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 05:29 PM (sdi6R)

318
Also trending:

Other actions against Chick-fil-A include the National Same-Sex Kiss Day, scheduled for August 3. Organizers of the event are asking same-sex pairs to kiss at their local Chick-fil-A at 8 p.m. Eastern time, 7 p.m. Central, and 5 p.m. Pacific. More information is available on Facebook.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 05:30 PM (kdS6q)

319 Can I just eat the meal of my choice without be tarred and feathered? No pun intended. I'm going to patronize Chick-fil-A because I can and I'm sick and tired of people shoving their opinions down my throat. Fuck em. Eat More Chikin'

Posted by: mpfs at July 25, 2012 05:30 PM (Fy6L7)

320 People who can't tell the practical difference between encouraging a boycott and a government literally preventing you from doing business vex me.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 25, 2012 05:30 PM (OgNv0)

321 265 It is Fascism, pure and simple. The Chick-Fil-A people should sue Boston and Chicago into oblivion.

Yeahp.

Posted by: Douglas at July 25, 2012 05:31 PM (YKOnu)

322 Your tribe named you well...tell me how not going to CFA at all because Gabe said not to, and not going because a picketer intimidated you is different to the botom line of the CFA ledger? Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 09:25 PM (KZi9D) --------------------- Well, one is sometimes a crime and the other's not. But no, to CFA it's not any different. BUT neither is a person choosing not to go to CFA because their brother went and said it sucked. Basically, if Gabe just tells you "hey, I don't go to CFA because they donate to causes I disagree with" you are free to make your own choice, and you are just as likely (or more likely with the Moron Horde) to choose to go there just because liberals don't want you to. If you make me fear for my safety when I go to Chick-Fil-A, you've changed the game. All Gabe is doing is telling you information you could find out on your own if you wanted, and telling you what he does---he's not stopping you or changing anything.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 05:31 PM (FIYvq)

323 I love Chik-fil-a. It's delicious.

Posted by: Jarrod at July 25, 2012 05:32 PM (HZiC9)

324 I avoid fast food like the plague.  Haven't been to a McDonalds in twenty years, and my kids have never been inside one.  I do, however occasionally eat fast food, and it is almost always CFA, precisely because I want to support a business that stands against homosexual 'rights'.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 25, 2012 05:32 PM (/i3Yt)

325

 

I love Chick-fil-A.  Its my favorite fast food.  I eat it sometimes 3x a week for lunch.  (its right next to my office building.  I can grab a sandwich cheap and fast).  I don't plan to stop.

Posted by: LilyBart at July 25, 2012 05:33 PM (igSv+)

326 INAL, but I also see a state violation of contract, writ of attainder and 1st amendment violations by Boston and Chicago.

Even if there is no action, the threat itself is in violation of those three things, and the mayors can't count on friendly state courts.

Posted by: Douglas at July 25, 2012 05:33 PM (YKOnu)

327 Chick-fil-A is a major American success story and she should be contrasting it to the failure that is theSCOAMF and his minions. I also think this is a convenient war to attack Christians. Chick-fil-A is the Tim Tebow of the restaurant industry. Gabe, bless your heart.

Posted by: small town girl at July 25, 2012 05:33 PM (DzWOc)

328 I believe there are Chick-fil-a's on the Ohio Turnpike.  I'll be heading that way soon.   I plan to treat the whole family.   Each way.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 25, 2012 05:34 PM (l3vZN)

329 Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 09:21 PM (FIYvq)

Exactly how is encouraging people to not spend money at a certain business not meant to be hurtful of that business. My god, your logic is so screwed up.

If my kid gets in trouble I might not give him his allowance for the week. That is meant as a punishment to change his behavior. Exactly what a boycott is. A boycott like what Gabe is encouraging is meant to punish. Punishing the business by hurting it financially. How exactly is that not trying to damage a business??

I don't care that Gabe is boycotting. I don't care if anyone else here is boycotting. What I do care about is that a site that I frequent and have donated to is now encouraging it's readers to go against their values. There is a reason I come to this site and I suppose it is the same reason a lot of other people come here. It's because we don't want to see crap like that. If I wanted to see writers encouraging boycotts against a Christian business for their beliefs I would visit the Daily Kos.

I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO NOT DONATE MONEY TO ACE OF SPADES.

Posted by: Shohuff at July 25, 2012 05:34 PM (jo0fs)

330 Just wanted to note that I had lunch at CFA today and not only was the line for the drive thru literally going down the street, there were lots of cars waiting to park in the lot and lots of folks walking over from the Target lot next door. And I still got my food in less than three minutes from when I gotta the drive through line and the service was friendly and my order was correct. CFA is out of my way but I will be making a point to go there whenever we eat out from now on because I'm flat-out tired of this shit.

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker for dagny at July 25, 2012 05:37 PM (qFpRI)

331 Gabe isn't encouraging anyone to go against their values. He's encouraging people who agree with him not to give their money to Chick-fil-A, which will then give it to causes they don't support. I don't see the part in his post where he asks us all not to eat there. We don't all have the same values here.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 25, 2012 05:39 PM (OgNv0)

332

 

Oh, and the Chick-fil-A next to my office is a FRANCISE, not corporate-owned.  And I like the people who work there.  They are nice and always  remember what sauce I like with my sandwich.  A boycott would hurt these good people.  I'm not in.

 

Posted by: LilyBart at July 25, 2012 05:39 PM (igSv+)

333 Good luck shutting all those Catholic and Baptist churches and mosques out of Boston.

Posted by: BuddyPC at July 25, 2012 05:41 PM (JjjnQ)

334 If CFA and all Christians would just accept that their beliefs are evil, and those of the homosexual lobby are good, a lot of these problems   would just go away.

Posted by: Moderate moron at July 25, 2012 05:41 PM (/i3Yt)

335

Four points:

1. Cathey was not asked about gay marriage and did not comment on it.  He said CFA supports traditional marriage and oppposes divorce. Fred Phelps is a homophobe, Cathey is not. 

2.  To quote another blogger, a boycott against a firm that voluntarily closes on Sunday probably does not have much chance of success.

3. CFA is the best fast food around. Good food (orders of magnitude better than Mickey D's) and great customer service.

4. I'm sure that at least half of the places where I  do business support various causes with which I disagree. The Left has to make the political personal. It's Alinsky all over again.Payback will be a bitch

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at July 25, 2012 05:42 PM (he+ZC)

336 If my kid gets in trouble I might not give him his allowance for the week. That is meant as a punishment to change his behavior. ------------------------ Exactly! You don't want to hurt your son, but you refuse to reward him for acting in a way you don't want to encourage. Where we differ is that I don't think "refuse to reward" in the case of a business is the same as "try to hurt." CFA is not entitled to Gabe's business, or anyone else's just like my old salon isn't entitled to mine. I'm not trying to drive the old salon out of business, and you're not trying to drive your kid to destitution by denying him his allowance. There's a difference. I don't know what is so hard to understand here. A boycott that isn't underhanded or dishonest and that doesn't use intimidation is fine, and isn't bigotry. It's as simple as that.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 05:42 PM (FIYvq)

337 You know who else made gay marriage a be-all, end-all of their existence?

Andi Sullivan.

It was that issue that turned him from nominal, reasonable conservative to screeching, brain-dead leftist.

I hate to say it but, Gabe will join him one day.

He will--just like Andi--sacrifice each and every conservative principle over that one issue. An issue that really means nothing, will solve nothing, will do nothing good and is completely driven by the most radical and vile of the gay left.

Don't believe me, that he won't? Then why is he taking pains to let us know that he boycotts CfA? Even if he ate there every week, you'd need a telescope capable of seeing a pin on the Moon to find the fraction of his purchase that could possibly end up in the owner's hands for charitable distribution.

It's not "funding" shit. The money will 99.999999999999999999% go to the young kid behind the counter that needs a job, the suppliers and a bit to the franchise owner who works 65+ hours a week but, nevertheless gets to bear the brunt of this hissy fit.

That's putting hysterics over reason and logic.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 25, 2012 05:43 PM (imtbm)

338
I don't see the part in his post where he asks us all not to eat there.
Posted by: kartoffel




Here you go:

"I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A"

Seems he's speaking to readers of the blog, unless you want to nuance that into he's encouraging people who aren't reading his encouragement.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 25, 2012 05:45 PM (kdS6q)

339 MY point:

Will these yuppies stop patronizing "Halal" food because it's made by anti-ghey muslims?

No?

Then STFU

Posted by: Hobojerky at July 25, 2012 05:46 PM (MrM2k)

340 I agree with whichever poster says that this is an attempt to intimidate Christians. This intimidation of business and the stuff with religious liberty on Healthcare. We'll see a WHOLE lot more of it if Obama gets in. again I went to a Tea Party gathering weeks ago. Some Jewish man who left Germany before WWII said. "This is how the things started in Germany and you Christians won't be exempt here." That was pretty powerful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2012 05:46 PM (SGXY/)

341 Gabe hasn't made a gay marriage post for a long fucking time before this. If you don't like his opinions, read a different blog. The only people getting hysterical are the Christians who think principled disagreement is bigotry.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 25, 2012 05:47 PM (OgNv0)

342 I love Chick-fil-A, and I detest the politicization of a personal statement as if the COMPANY is then somehow bigoted.

THAT is the bigoted statement, that a Christian cannot have their own personal opinion without spitting on their business too. Because 2% of the population should dictate their beliefs to over 90%. Yeah, right.


Posted by: Shawn at July 25, 2012 05:47 PM (/lltO)

343 Why the heck would you publish a paragraph urging people not to eat at Chik-fil-A?  It's worse than a betrayal, it's a blunder.


Posted by: andrew at July 25, 2012 05:47 PM (65QIv)

344 344

I read that as "I encourage people I know who agree with me to join my boycott". I didn't think he'd be silly enough to encourage the horde to give up Chick-fil-A.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 25, 2012 05:49 PM (OgNv0)

345 Mandy-Are the lines always that long or dod you think extra people showed up because of knowing about the actions in Chicago and Boston?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2012 05:49 PM (SGXY/)

346 344 Here you go: "I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A" Yeah, but that's his First Amendment right. The rest of us are perfectly free to ignore him. I could tell everybody not to eat at Burger King, and you would be within your rights to say, "Who the hell cares what you think?"

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 05:50 PM (sdi6R)

347 I guess I'll have to go to Chik Fil A more often, to show these fascists I'm not afraid of them.  Also, to make up for some conservatives who don't act on their principles.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 25, 2012 05:51 PM (/i3Yt)

348 Being an evangelical, I used to boycott a lot of stuff.  Then I noticed that every business, etc, is owned and co-owned and coopted by someone else and after several years, I realized the only way I could do business with only people who I approved of was to become Amish or a mountain hermit.  I've probably gone to the other side of the spectrum, but I can't remember when was the last time I actually boycotted something.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 25, 2012 05:53 PM (bMLFV)

349 Political views aside, Rahm & Moreno have come out against healthy fast food (don't tel Ms. Obama) and jobs. And if Chik-fil-A is as popular as others have mentioned, just imagine how much tax revenue they're losing, too. In this economy.
Idiots!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 25, 2012 05:53 PM (9Hjfj)

350

I wish there was a Chick-a-fil anywhere near me, I would eat there as much as possible.  Then again, I let people make their own decisions on where to eat, I don't go around encouraging people to not eat somewhere because of my own political views.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: doug at July 25, 2012 05:54 PM (gUGI6)

351 "I really don't understand some of the vitriol on this thread."
I think people have had just about enough of homosexuals telling everyone they're awful for disagreeing with what they do.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 05:55 PM (r4wIV)

352 "I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A." I really can't eat there every day, because I'd balloon up in weight, but I guess I could just order something and give it to a homeless guy...kind of a "thanks for all the morning open thread commentary over the years" thing...

Posted by: XXOO at July 25, 2012 05:55 PM (CQK59)

353 And I respect Gabe's decision to boycott them because I'm a conservative and I'm just cool that way.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 25, 2012 05:57 PM (bMLFV)

354 "If you don't like his opinions, read a different blog. "
Or we could stay here and give our opinions here and ignore people like you telling us to go away for daring to disagree with Gabe.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 05:58 PM (r4wIV)

355 And now we know why this blog had such a huge hard-on for Mitt Romney during the primaries...he was the only candidate that could possibly support gay marriage.  This blog and the others systematically took down each of his competitors one at a time and now we are stuck having to vote for a Massachusetts Liberal or a Chicago Marxist.  It's like living in Sweden.

Posted by: doug at July 25, 2012 05:58 PM (gUGI6)

356 360 Word. That's basically what I've been saying in several comments, although maybe not that simply or eloquently.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 05:59 PM (sdi6R)

357 Full disclosure: I am in the food business and for 16 years I have worked on college campuses managing/running/directing/inventing retail food units. In 2002 we brought in Chick-fil-A and it was the best move we ever made. They have very high standards in every aspect of their business dealings. They are still a private company and they do franchise, and those operators work HARD. They are heavily scrutinized before they get a franchise and slackers need not apply. The company does tremendous work for charity, especially for kids. I met Dan Cathy when he popped into our unit after a football game and shook every employee's hand from the manager to the breader. (yeah he had on a Clemson shirt but we forgave him). Personally I don't agree with all their criteria, for instance women who are divorced cannot own a franchise. But they are a private company and they can do that. I'm on another campus now and the kids are begging me to push for a Chick- fil- A on campus and I'm out of the South and across the country.

Posted by: small town girl at July 25, 2012 05:59 PM (VSfsH)

358 Just finished installing a Powder River Precision drop-in trigger kit in my XD-45Tactical. Amazing isn't even the word for it. About 20 minutes and it's nicer now than any 1911 I've ever shot

Posted by: DAve at July 25, 2012 05:59 PM (w5aay)

359 And now we know why this blog had such a huge hard-on for Mitt Romney during the primaries...he was the only candidate that could possibly support gay marriage. This blog and the others systematically took down each of his competitors one at a time and now we are stuck having to vote for a Massachusetts Liberal or a Chicago Marxist. It's like living in Sweden.

Posted by: doug at July 25, 2012 09:58 PM (gUGI6)



Uh... ace, the blog owner....was a Perry guy.

Posted by: Tami at July 25, 2012 06:00 PM (X6akg)

360 362 And now we know why this blog had such a huge hard-on for Mitt Romney during the primaries...he was the only candidate that could possibly support gay marriage. This blog and the others systematically took down each of his competitors one at a time and now we are stuck having to vote for a Massachusetts Liberal or a Chicago Marxist. It's like living in Sweden.

Posted by: doug at July 25, 2012 09:58 PM (gUGI6)

 

Retard.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 06:00 PM (GULKT)

361 If you hold same position on gay marriage that Obama did until a few months ago you are unwelcome to do business in certain cities? That's where they want to take this? The backlash on this is gonna be HUGE. ChickFilA is gonna be rolling in the $. The Libs never figure out this kind of stupid PC tactic always backfires. It's like when they go after Limbaugh and his ratings climb as a result. Liberal PC enforces always want to pretend THEY'VE ALREADY WON THE ARGUMENT AND THE DEBATE IS OVER. They then profess shock {SHOCK!!!11!!"} that ANYONE would then publicly express dissent from the OFFICIALLY ENDORSED VIEW and howl for the blood of the heretic. Loud, in-your-face WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?! anger to make a very public example of the first few dissenters so everybody else 'gets the message' and learns to shut up. Difference is, they aren't in an ECHO CHAMBER now. They could FOOL themselves into thinking these tactics worked back in the 80's and 90's. But not any more. The pushback against this tactic is strong and immediate, and they are about to learn once again the hard way the old days are gone forever. @drawandstrike

Posted by: drawandstrike at July 25, 2012 06:01 PM (uVLJc)

362

Word.

That's basically what I've been saying in several comments, although maybe not that simply or eloquently

 

 

 

I have a family full of loud and eloquent people and have learned to express myself quickly at times.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 25, 2012 06:01 PM (bMLFV)

363 Yeah Ace and the others were big on Perry, not Romney. A few commenters here are Romney lovers but most of us are not so happy. Better him than Obama is about as happy as it gets.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 06:01 PM (r4wIV)

364 365 Just finished installing a Powder River Precision drop-in trigger kit in my XD-45Tactical. Amazing isn't even the word for it. About 20 minutes and it's nicer now than any 1911 I've ever shot Hijacking this into a gun thread may be a very shrewd move.

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 06:03 PM (sdi6R)

365 "About 20 minutes and it's nicer now than any 1911 I've ever shot."
Go down to Gunsmoke and get them to rig you up a 1911, I understand they do good work there.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 06:05 PM (r4wIV)

366 It's a little sad that people go apoplectic every time Gabe posts. This isn't a Pure Conservative opinions only blog.

Posted by: kartoffel's phone at July 25, 2012 06:05 PM (OgNv0)

367 Leftist Gabe's Footballs ?


Love the site change.


YOU GO BIG BOY!








Posted by: NAMBLA at July 25, 2012 06:06 PM (zsgo8)

368 All Gabe is doing is telling you information you could find out on your own if you wanted, and telling you what he does---he's not stopping you or changing anything. Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 09:31 PM (FIYvq) The correct Conservative response is to start a fabulous Chik-fil-Gay chain of delicious chicken sandwich restaurants and let the Free Market decide. Then all those who are offended by Gabe's personal beliefs can boycott him and encourage others to do so and try to drive him out of business. If "Gay" is higher up on your personal checklist than "Free Market Conservative", Gabe's actions are completely understandable. I think that some of the negative reaction on this blog is in response to that revelation. I could be wrong.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 06:06 PM (KZi9D)

369

Better him than Obama is about as happy as it gets.

 

 

 

And we've been pleasently surprised with what a good campaign he has run so far.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 25, 2012 06:06 PM (bMLFV)

370

Gabe hasn't made a gay marriage post for a long fucking time before this. If you don't like his opinions, read a different blog. The only people getting hysterical are the Christians who think principled disagreement is bigotry.

I am a little confused by your comment, Gabe wrote this:

The company supports social policies supported by about half the country; the loudest voices on the other half are acting like monkeys flinging poo over it. It was a stupid story full to the gills of stupid people saying stupid things.

and quoted this

It is even clearer that the government may not make decisions about how people will be allowed to use their own property based on the speakerÂ’s past speech.

 

To paraprahse Janene Garofalo- "It's straight up facism"  - Mumbles Menino is an idiot.  Not sure if I qualify as a Christian but the position of the mayor smacks more of facism to me than of "principled disgreement."

But that's just me I guess.

Posted by: tt the bear at July 25, 2012 06:08 PM (mg8ch)

371 We also choose to boycott this restaurant during a depressed economy because we can't put our genitals where we want to and receive total approval from Daddy...oops...I mean the fascist Christianists society

Posted by: NAMBLA at July 25, 2012 06:09 PM (zsgo8)

372 Romney is NOT going to go for advocating same sex marriage. He won't discriminate but he won't advocate either. That is a hard- core Mormon principle and he won't go agaist the church on this.

Posted by: small town girl at July 25, 2012 06:10 PM (ven16)

373 God knows Gabe is entitled to his opinion, and to patronize whatever business he wants. But conservatives who donate to a conservative website are entitled to look askance at a post on that website encouraging them to boycott an organization precisely for supporting a conservative position. They're also entitled to withhold future donations and site visits, and that might not be a bad idea right about now.

Posted by: Andrew at July 25, 2012 06:10 PM (pJ8jw)

374 That was directed at some dude halfway through the thread who couldn't tell the difference between a boycott and creeping fascism.

Posted by: kartoffel at July 25, 2012 06:11 PM (OgNv0)

375 We join Gabe in his boycott of that gay marriage h8tr MITT ROMNEY



Posted by: NAMBLA at July 25, 2012 06:12 PM (zsgo8)

376 Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 10:06 PM (KZi9D) ------------------ I don't think you understand what free market capitalism means. Boycotting is part of a free market system---think about it. In your scenario, if someone started Big Gay Al's Chicken Shoppe, then some people would eat there instead of CFA; that'd be the point, customers would be redirected from one business to another. It's not any different to redirect your money to an existing business, like say KFC. Gabe's choice to not go to CFA shows that he values gay marriage over the world's tastiest chicken, not gay marriage over free market capitalism. Free market capitalism means everyone is free to support whatever business they want---it doesn't mean that you have to support businesses for the "right" reasons.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 06:14 PM (FIYvq)

377

Posted by: doug at July 25, 2012 09:58 PM (gUGI6)

 

Ya know, I'm hardly a fan of Malor and think him encouraging others on this blog to boycott Chick-fil-A is pretty douchetastic, but I'm going to agree with the poster above that you're a retard.  For reasons clearly stated by a couple of others.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 25, 2012 06:14 PM (rX1N2)

378 Crap, I think I misread the post I was responding to. Disregard my last post.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 06:16 PM (FIYvq)

379 Gabriel Malor, you're a screwball. Why boycott any business that offers quality products & services? I don't support gay marriage or gay leaders in the Boy Scouts, but I sure as hell don't boycott quality American businesses that employ or are led by homosexuals. Who are the intolerant people here?

Posted by: Emily at July 25, 2012 06:16 PM (W5c4e)

380 I have tried to wrap my brain around the thought process of people who base their every. Fucking. Decision in life on whether it gives glory to their desire to assfuck another man, and I just cannot understand it. I just can't. The part that floors me is that I, and others like me, are now told that WE are the ones with the problem. I care nothing on the "sin" aspect of homo sexuality; it disgusts me on a purely human level, because I just can't account for that kind of urge. I've had male friends who I loved and enjoyed the company of; but i never once felt a desire to have them inside of my asshole. That is where the threshold of mental illness lies, and I just can't rationalize having that kind of (to me) unclean and unnatural urge. To feel the stir of arousal at the sight of another man is as foreign to me as getting a hard on while looking at a dogs asshole. If its not a choice, it is an aberration of normal human behavior. Just my opinion, folks.

Posted by: The Drizzle at July 25, 2012 06:17 PM (ysCLj)

381 "But conservatives who donate to a conservative website are entitled to look askance at a post on that website encouraging them to boycott an organization precisely for supporting a conservative position."
Yeah, that's pretty much it. This is not really a conservative website, but there are a lot of conservatives here. Stating something in direct opposition to what people believe in isn't exactly going to endear you to those people.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 06:19 PM (r4wIV)

382 Gabe's choice to not go to CFA shows that he values gay marriage over the world's tastiest chicken, not gay marriage over free market capitalism. Free market capitalism means everyone is free to support whatever business they want---it doesn't mean that you have to support businesses for the "right" reasons. Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 10:14 PM (FIYvq Gabe does not want CFA to exist because they prefer traditional marriage values. He wants you to join him in this endeavor. Others, sharing Gabe's central concern, want to prevent them from opening their business at all. What's Free Market friendly about that, Dr. Hayek?

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 06:19 PM (KZi9D)

383 Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 10:19 PM (KZi9D) Where did he say that he didn't want them to exist? He just defended their right to exist! Every store you don't go to, Champion, you must want to drive out of business, amirite?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 25, 2012 06:20 PM (FIYvq)

384 What I'd really like to boycott is the public school system and the inefficient government funded programs that are draining my pocketbook without giving me my own consumerist choice to make.

Posted by: Emily at July 25, 2012 06:23 PM (W5c4e)

385 I urge you all to boycott the government.

Posted by: Emily at July 25, 2012 06:23 PM (W5c4e)

386 No just the ones I tweet incessantly about, post on AoS and state that "because I am gay, I will not eat here and because I am gay, neither should you". Are we clear?

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 06:24 PM (KZi9D)

387 Gays won't be satisfied until everyone is strapped down with their eyes pinned open and forced to watch gay porn 12 hours a day, like clockwork orange. Chick Fil-A, it's what's for dinner.

Posted by: Village Idiot at July 25, 2012 06:28 PM (utXSy)

388 And again, all this boycott stupidity does is hurt those--the employees, vendors and franchise owner--who have no control over what Mr. Cathy says or does.

But, then the left has never been above using the innocent as shields and cannon fodder.

And Gabe stands on the sideline quietly clapping.

'Cause he's a conservative, you see.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 25, 2012 06:29 PM (imtbm)

389

First of all... why do the gheys want to go camping with young impressionable boys... out in the woods.... with no other adults around.... how could that be any fun for them?   

Second.... Gabe..... I respect your right to not buy a product... I wish the Obama administration and the rest of the dems felt the same way concerning mandated health insurance policies.

 

Third.... Gabe, for trying to get me to go along with this ghey boycott... go suck a bag of d*#ks.

 

Oh wait... duh.

 

You clever bastard.  You tricked me into saying that.

Posted by: The guy that falls for almost anything at July 25, 2012 06:29 PM (gzdJs)

390 I give you the great Mayor of Boston, Massachewsits, Mumbles Menino: http://howiecarr.us/sounds/ Enjoy.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at July 25, 2012 06:30 PM (UeuU/)

391 I went to a Chick-A-Fil in a mall today. They were steady/mobbed and the rest of the vendors were handing out free food and trying to get customers. I went because f-them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Posted by: madamex at July 25, 2012 06:30 PM (1zsKV)

392 Think about this:  what is more offensive, a privately held corporation holding Christian values, or a group of homosexual activists demanding that you recognize their mental illness as normal behavior, and equal to your own, your beliefs be damned, because that is exactly the choice.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 25, 2012 06:34 PM (/i3Yt)

393 I had lunch at my local Chick-Fil-A this afternoon, specifically because of the tools trying to run them out of business. 

It also helps that their food is teh awesome.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 25, 2012 06:34 PM (Jbyco)

394 383 I don't think you understand what free market capitalism means. Boycotting is part of a free market system---think about it. In your scenario, if someone started Big Gay Al's Chicken Shoppe, then some people would eat there instead of CFA; that'd be the point, customers would be redirected from one business to another. It's not any different to redirect your money to an existing business, like say KFC. Gabe's choice to not go to CFA shows that he values gay marriage over the world's tastiest chicken, not gay marriage over free market capitalism. Free market capitalism means everyone is free to support whatever business they want---it doesn't mean that you have to support businesses for the "right" reasons. Whoever you were replying to, that's an excellent comment, and also shows why antidiscrimination laws applied to private businesses were so destructive. As Ayn Rand said back in the 1960s, "Freedom of association also includes the freedom not to associate."

Posted by: rickl at July 25, 2012 06:36 PM (sdi6R)

395 what i don't understand is why this business owner chose to make public his political views and, thereby, alienate a portion of his customer base. just as the dixie chicks were told to "shut up and sing", perhaps this gentleman would have done well to shut up and sell his chick-en sandwiches. that said, customer boycotting is fine but denying building permits, obviously, is not.

Posted by: el polacko at July 25, 2012 06:36 PM (ZUBNs)

396 Read this nonsense on the web today. Went directly to lunch and had a fantastic meal at Chick-fil-A in Hampton, VA. They are bumper-to-bumper for the drive through, usually with dozens of cars in line. One of the very best run fast food companies in the country. Screw the ghey agenda. Screw them. They have become temper tantrum throwing children in all parts of society. F' all of them.

Posted by: rightwingva at July 25, 2012 06:38 PM (OJ/tZ)

397

But Gabe, gay marriage *is* legal in all 50 states and has been since Lawrence v Texas. It is legal because it is not illegal which is the only reason *anything* is legal. Two men can live together forever in happiness everywhere in America wthout gov't interference, and that's prett much all a free people should desire. And they do so with greater prosperity and more influence than the rest of us because they don't waste their time and money on things like  ... say ... bearing and raising the next generation of Americans.

 Gay, Inc. is not interested in legalizing gay marriage. They are interested in suing everyone who disagrees with them, which is what will happen if it is legalized nationwide. That's what "legal" gay marriage is: a ban on the Judeo-Christian worldview.

Posted by: xuyee at July 25, 2012 06:46 PM (/QiO2)

398 The CEO said he supported traditional marriage. "Gay marriage" was never brought up in the interview with him. Why is this even a controversy? Is a guy not supposed to support traditional marriage? Fuck everyone, including Gabe. This is the retarded leading the retarded.

Posted by: Randall Hoven at July 25, 2012 06:47 PM (pxxdU)

399

Gabe shows what a f*ckwit he is yet again. Makes me wonder why he's even allowed to post here.

Just because an a**hole like gabe doesn't want me to go to Chik-Fil-A, I'm making it a point to go. ESAFO gabe.

Posted by: Hard Right at July 25, 2012 06:49 PM (kJQ+z)

400 I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A.  - Gabe







Thanks for the brilliant advice.  I'll do just the opposite.

Posted by: mama winger at July 25, 2012 06:52 PM (P6QsQ)

401 all u Morons have caused my gloucose to high, i bolted out my apt to CFA, got a spicy, lg wafflr fries, lg Diet Lemonade and small peach shake. Damn u all, it was sooo yummy, damit yumyum

Posted by: submariner at July 25, 2012 06:52 PM (kMhns)

402 Truett and Jeannette Cathy started WinShape Foundation. Oh, the horrors... take a look at what this menacing anti-ghey people are up to... http://www.winshape.org Oh, the horror. /sarc

Posted by: rightwingva at July 25, 2012 06:54 PM (OJ/tZ)

403 Popeye's chicken is damn good, is Chk-Fil-A as good?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 06:55 PM (r4wIV)

404 >>Why is this even a controversy?

The "Everything Must Be About Me Being Gay" crowd hasn't been getting enough attention since SCOAMF had that interview about it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish finally has a beer at July 25, 2012 06:55 PM (hO8IJ)

405 Hey Gabe, And I've told all my friends that if they want to go out to lunch, the only place my money is going is Chick-fil-A. Congratulations on pissing off practically every conservative in the USA. You deserve a gold star.

Posted by: rightwingva at July 25, 2012 06:56 PM (OJ/tZ)

406 I can't believe a co-blogger is personally encouraging readers not to patronize a business strictly on the basis of their support for traditional marriage.  Looking forward to the blacklist of what to shun next. 

Posted by: mama winger at July 25, 2012 06:56 PM (P6QsQ)

407 Hi Gabe,

I'll be taking my whole family to Chick-fil-A everyday for all three meals until school starts just to make up for your 'choice'.

Thanks for making it known.

Posted by: GW McLintock at July 25, 2012 06:58 PM (AflO4)

408 I've been boycotting Chinese products for 20 years. Doesn't seem to have helped freedom and democracy around the world, but I still have hope.

Posted by: Invictos at July 25, 2012 06:58 PM (OQpzc)

409 If I can't stuff my brown-hole full of man-pole whi; bent over the ketchup dispenser at the fast food restaurant of my choice to waves of thunderous and COMPLETELY unanimous applause,

the terrorists have ALREADY WON

Posted by: Gayb " Bicycle Seat" Malodorous at July 25, 2012 06:58 PM (zsgo8)

410 So This Gabe guy is encouraging people who come to a conservative site to boycott chik-fil-a because it is against same sex marriage? Where the fuck am I? I don't know, where the fuck are you? How about you read the article again. Gabe is talking about the unconstitutionality of attempting to block a building permit based on personal/political beliefs.

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 06:59 PM (fGm68)

411 410 I'm not sure of Popeye, but CFA is damn right yummy. I'm not much of chicken guy, CFA makes the CHIK yummy, i only go there for my fix.

Posted by: submariner at July 25, 2012 07:01 PM (kMhns)

412 I fear this will not end well: think "Flash Mob at chick-fil-A" . The left has thrown down the gauntlet, when they see that their ploy has backfired and the franchises are prospering beyond expectation; they will take steps. If you have CCW, go heeled when visiting Chick-Fil-A. You may wish you had if you don't. God help us all.

Posted by: Old Fart at July 25, 2012 07:01 PM (BNnds)

413

Sorry Gabe,

Chick-Fil-A is good and right.   Christian based and morally sound, I support, I encourage ya'll to eat there.  and since they are closed Sunday's.....attend the church of your choice!!!  

Posted by: AL in KY at July 25, 2012 07:02 PM (pbxRU)

414 You are comparing: "I don't eat at Chick-fil-A and I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A.* What I don't do is deny Chick-fil-A's right to do business with other folks. If these mayors had their way, they'd go so far as to deny Chick-fil-A's right to exist. That's oppression. That's wrong, and we should say so." with Kos? Look, we may not agree with Gabe's stance vis-a-vis a boycot, and we can choose to ignore his encouragement, but he's not here calling us a bunch of witch-hunting KKKers because we like a little Chick-fil-A goodness. In fact, he's defending C-F-A's right to operate their business lawfully, regards of his personal feelings.

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 07:02 PM (fGm68)

415 I don't know, where the fuck are you? How about you read the article again. Gabe is talking about the unconstitutionality of attempting to block a building permit based on personal/political beliefs.

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 10:59 PM (fGm6

 

And then says don't go there for the exact same reasons.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 07:03 PM (GULKT)

416 Don't agree with Gabe on gay marriage, but his attitude is correct. We all have a right to patronize, or not, businesses, for whatever reason. What I despise, and share with Gabe, is DEMANDING that my preference be legally enforced.

Posted by: kcs at July 25, 2012 07:08 PM (SBdwW)

417 Gabriel Malor, you're a screwball. Why boycott any business that offers quality products & services? Caribou Coffee servers great coffee, but they have supported pro-palestinian groups. I choose not to give them my custom. It's my right, but unless they break the law, they are free to serve their heathen coffee goodness as much as Starbucks. That is Gabe's point. Geez, get your sand out of your vagina, people. I mean, even AlexTheChick, who for her "Eat Moar Chicks" has a whole new level of meaning can't help but enjoy their tasty poultry goodness.

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 07:09 PM (fGm68)

418 i think it is a conspiracy between Gabe and CFA. So that we all start eating there or maybe a typo or he maybe "there's your sign" he a flaming asshat.just thinking

Posted by: submariner at July 25, 2012 07:09 PM (kMhns)

419 I think it's kind of uncool to come onto someone else's blog while they're on vacation and ask people to join a controversial boycott.  I think it hurts the AoS "brand," and it's really a jerk move.

I also think Ace will be okay with it because Gabe is a friend of his, but it was still uncool. 

Posted by: VKI at July 25, 2012 07:10 PM (TKoA3)

420 407 I encourage others not to eat at Chick-fil-A. - Gabe Thanks for the brilliant advice. I'll do just the opposite. THREAD WINNER!!!!! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

Posted by: rightwingva at July 25, 2012 07:11 PM (OJ/tZ)

421 And then says don't go there for the exact same reasons. Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 11:03 PM (GULKT) So? Is he able to legally forbid you from going? No? Then what's the problem? It's his opinion. These fucks in Chicago want the government to decide whether you can enjoy Chick-Fil-A because of their gay/straight stance. Yeah, I know Gabe's a bit ga-ga over the ghey issues, but stop overlooking the main thrust (heh) of his article. I'll spell it out in big letters, if you are having trouble reading... GOVERNMENT, GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY POLITICAL OPINIONS AN LET ME EAT MY FUCKING CHICKINS.

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 07:13 PM (fGm68)

422 amen & amen more chicken!!!!

Posted by: submariner at July 25, 2012 07:15 PM (kMhns)

423 I think it's kind of uncool to come onto someone else's blog while they're on vacation and ask people to join a controversial boycott. I think it hurts the AoS "brand," and it's really a jerk move. Really, I don't see this. He's not red-bannering a post saying "JOIN ME IN THE GREAT CHICK-FIL-A WALKOUT...SIGN MY PETITION". It's two freaking sentences in a multi-paragraph essay about government sticking it's beak where it doesn't belong. What, are we a right-wing echo chamber in here or something?

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 07:15 PM (fGm68)

424 Of course he's allowed to say that.  Just as we are able to call him a dipshit for doing so.  The more insulting aspect of his post was his smug little "supported by about half the country" crybaby line.  That's just some more of his standard passive aggressive garbage that he does often like his 'Oh I'm not offering my opinion I'm just presenting facts and information without bias' crap.

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 07:17 PM (GULKT)

425 9 I have nothing against Chik fil-A per se. I just happen to like my chicken served by a muscular hairy man in assless chaps. Posted by: Anderson Cooper

Yo, Andy, that's called Bear-fil-A

Posted by: SFGoth at July 25, 2012 07:20 PM (dZ756)

426 cheshirecat (and others), I appreciate your comments, but I wouldn't get overly-worked up over this. Have you heard of John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory?

http://goo.gl/tuJFL

Don't worry 'bout it. I assure you that I haven't.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at July 25, 2012 07:20 PM (DhD8T)

427 well done , Malor.

my young apprentice

Posted by: Darth Soros at July 25, 2012 07:20 PM (zsgo8)

428 My Dad stopped eating at that other chicken place when he realized that it was actually spelled "Pope Yes".  Well, ok, he didn't, but he did point out the spelling.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 25, 2012 07:21 PM (dZ756)

429 You mean this: "We haven't covered the Chick-fil-A controversy here and I wasn't planning to. The company supports social policies supported by about half the country; the loudest voices on the other half are acting like monkeys flinging poo over it. " Okay, maybe you don't agree that only 50% support traditional marriage (as Gabe implies. I think a much larger percentage supports traditional marriage actually), but this paragraph is chiding the LEFT PRO-GAY for behaving like a bunch of crybaby arseholes. Maybe I'm missing something, what do you have against making fun of leftists?

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 07:22 PM (fGm68)

430 431 ... And I'm accused of being a troll by QUOTING Gabe's stance on his YouTube video post thread. Good grief. I didn't realize the ONLY thing that matters in the US is now all-ghey, all-the-time.

Posted by: rightwingva at July 25, 2012 07:23 PM (OJ/tZ)

431

the easiest way to win a battle with these assholes is to come up with little ditties such as " Put a dick up my ass, push it in and all around.  take it out it is brown, etc."

watch them squirm. 

define it as what it IS!   Then watch them try to deny it.  (This is for most of the liberal hetero everything-is-good crowd.  Homos, well, they would find nothing wrong with it.

And indeed, have never taken responsibility for turning AIDS into a HUGE epidemic.

Posted by: john b at July 25, 2012 07:23 PM (4BJga)

432 Nothing.  I just don't think you need to have the little passive aggressive dig at the start.  Why not directly speak the fact as you yourself just indicate?  That over half the country supports traditional marriage. 

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 07:25 PM (GULKT)

433 cheshirecat (and others), I appreciate your comments, but I wouldn't get overly-worked up over this. I'm not overly worked up about it, inasmuch as I don't understand the reading comprehension of some people on here sometimes. You made a fine about about government being bullies, and some people here want to nit-pick on two fucking sentences that are, at best, parenthetical to the overall message...simply because your name's on it. I don't always agree with you, Gabe, in fact more than once I have read an article of yours which involved so much eyeball rolling I suffered a concussion, but you make an absolutely correct point about the overreach of government control. But haters gonna hate, I suppose. Thatisall.

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 07:25 PM (fGm68)

434 Who gives a crap about their political stance, I just don't like their food.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at July 25, 2012 07:28 PM (QyMDY)

435 i think it is a conspiracy between Gabe and CFA. So that we all start eating there Submariner, that's good stealth ninja thinking. I betcha that's the real modus operandi here. Well played, Gabe.

Posted by: cheshirecat at July 25, 2012 07:29 PM (fGm68)

436 I was aware of the company's charitable giving to activist groups opposed to gay marriage. So when I moved to D.C. near a Chick-fil-A, I decided not to eat there since I don't want to help fund such groups. Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:42 PM Why do you want me to join you in not funding these groups? Are you aware of them? WinShape Foundation was founded more than 20 years ago by Truett and Jeannette Cathy. Under the WinShape Foundation umbrella, there are several programs, including WinShape Homes®, which currently operates 11 foster care homes in Georgia, Tennessee and Alabama. The WinShape College Program℠ at Berry College in Rome, Georgia, is a co-op program offering joint four-year scholarship funding to incoming freshmen of up to $32,000. WinShape Camps℠ offers boys and girls summer programs at the college, which will be attended by more than 15,000 campers in 2012. Additionally, WinShape also operates the WinShape Retreat℠, which offers a sequestered setting for marriage support and counseling and other gatherings on the Mountain Campus of Berry College. Held at WinShape Retreat, WinShape Marriage℠ aims to help married couples by offering intervention for couples in crisis, preparation for engaged couples and enrichment for those interested in growing their marriage. WinShape Wilderness℠ is dedicated to using adventure to equip people to experience real change, not just in a team setting, but also through personal transformation. WinShape Wilderness is an outdoor adventure program that facilitates experiential learning for all audiences in ropes course settings as well as canoeing, rock climbing and backpacking venues. Finally, WinShape International℠ was founded in January 2005 with a mission to mobilize leaders to transform young people and communities around the world. Chick-fil-A Leadership Scholarship Program: Chick-fil-A separately offers $1,000 college scholarships to certain qualified franchised Operator Restaurant employees, a Chick-fil-A tradition that has awarded over $30 million in scholarships.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at July 25, 2012 07:38 PM (KZi9D)

437 now I know alot more cool shit CFA is doing & is into, than i would not have know had Gabe not brought this matter Brilliant Man Brilliant Man!!!

Posted by: submariner at July 25, 2012 07:49 PM (kMhns)

438 @
418 410 I'm not sure of Popeye, but CFA is damn right yummy. I'm not much of chicken guy, CFA makes the CHIK yummy, i only go there for my fix.

Posted by: submariner at July 25, 2012 11:01 PM (kMhns)


Popeye chicken is made from the parking lot sweepings from CFA

Oh, and CFA serves the food while it is still warm and quickly, not 'lousiaaaaaana fast'



Posted by: Mark E at July 25, 2012 07:59 PM (a9HCt)

439 I must've missed the part where Chic-Fil-A is this juggernaut anti-gay fund raising machine. I'm gay and I eat there. Because they have good chicken and their waffle fries make me happy.

Posted by: Chad at July 25, 2012 08:06 PM (wpw9K)

440 I'm going to patronize Chick-fil-A because I can and I'm sick and tired of people shoving their opinions down my throat. Fuck em. Eat More Chikin' Posted by: mpfs at July 25, 2012 09:30 PM (Fy6L7) Which one, Mrs Paul? I went to the one in Chula Juana Vista for the first time today- a little hard to find, but yah, good food and service.

Posted by: SSGT Hartman at July 25, 2012 08:13 PM (3sZO1)

441 Government needs to get out of the marriage business and leave it to religious institutions where it belongs. A marriage is between a couple and their god. Just as governments don't regulate or legislate other religious rituals or ceremonies, such as baptisms or taking communion. Now there are legal, contractual rights granted when two people choose to form a union, a family, and here the correct venue for legislating would be with the government (at the state level in my view but even I could easily argue at the federal level). In my opinion a Conservative has no standing denying these rights to two (or more) adult people who choose to form this type of union. Civil unions, or whatever you want to call them, should treat every individually equally and fairly from a legal standpoint. But marriage is not traditionally a contract between man and government, but man and deity, and this is where we've gone wrong. BTW, should the institution of marriage return to its rightful place, it would be recognized within those individual's religious affiliations. Plenty of affiliations would marry homosexuals. Plenty would not. I'm baptized, but a Mormon or Muslum or Jew will not recognize my baptism. And I don't care. For the owner of Chic-fil-A, Gabe is asking a man to choose Gabe's view of what he believes is a government contract, civil rights legal issue over what the owner believes is a spiritual contract and his God's law. Those who are truly religious will of course follow their God's eternal law over whatever the current whim's of man are. Take the definition of marriage back to what it was, and separate from any worldly legal contract, and I think Gabe would be happily enjoying some good chicken instead of defending an attack on his social belief, and I doubt the owner of Chic-fil-A would be directing so many charitable dollars defending an attack on his religious belief.

Posted by: MostlyRight at July 25, 2012 08:14 PM (ZG8Ti)

442 ...stoopid damn sock....

Posted by: Bill H at July 25, 2012 08:14 PM (3sZO1)

443 We have to remember to the leftards EVERYTHING is political, from your cup of coffee in the morning, to the paper you read, to who you finally vote for. It disgusts me, but we have to do it to, or they'll steam-roller what we hold dear. So Gabe, you gotta suck down some waffle fries for solidarity because if you don't, you'll be in a re-education camp for "anti-social" behavior faster than you can say "Fahbulous!"

I still think its hilarious how the left uses teh gheys to further their own agenda, all the while knowing they're gonna throw 'em under the bus as soon as its expedient and the moron gays go for it every time. Its like they think the flaming hairstyles will hide the fact that they're rich white guys. 

Posted by: Iblis at July 25, 2012 08:22 PM (YXrPH)

444 Btw...Raising Cane's will be putting Chick-fil-A and the lesser chicken-focused chains out of business in very short order. Raising Cane's, where the bird is the word.

Posted by: MostlyRight at July 25, 2012 08:27 PM (ZG8Ti)

445 Gabe, you do realize that you're one of the dumber bloggers on Ace of Spades HQ, right?

Posted by: FrancisChalk at July 25, 2012 08:28 PM (qRhu+)

446 "You made a fine about about government being bullies, and some people here want to nit-pick on two fucking sentences that are, at best, parenthetical to the overall message"
Sure, there's nothing obnoxious or annoying about what he said. I mean if Lincoln had said in the middle of the Gettysburg Address "and I'm going to shit in your Wheaties" do you figure people would ignore that and talk about everything else?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 08:31 PM (r4wIV)

447

DAve - I have an XD 9mm, but have not modified it, though I have read of many happy owners like you who installed the PowderRiver trigger kits.

I don't modify any of my firearms.  I prefer to learn to use them "as is".  That goes especially for milsurp rifles - historical interest is a major factor in having them, and I seek only to use them as they were designed and actually used (mostly in WWII).

I don't get enough trigger time with any of my toys, but with the XD (first purchase) I seem to have come up against a hard limit on accuracy.  Nearly one elongated ragged hole, about 2-3 inches southwest (below/left) of the bullseye.  So, consistent.  Using one of those "diagnostic" targets I've tried to change my grip and trigger-finger positioning to counter what the target tells me I'm doing, but not much improvement. 

Then again, perhaps I should listen to myself here, and be happy with "good enough", as my groups generally are, for steel matches, plinking, and (unlikely) self-defense.

Oh - I've only eaten at CFA once (it's not close and I rarely eat fast food unless you count pho - Vietnamese soup - which usually arrives within 3 minutes of being ordered ..... that's a staple I have several times a week).

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at July 25, 2012 08:34 PM (yJ3Du)

448 Remember Gabe chose to make his own personal little boycott effort against CFA part of this post.  He could have left it out and it would have had no impact on the story about the liberals efforts.  

Posted by: buzzion at July 25, 2012 08:35 PM (GULKT)

449 Gabriel...   I assume that you never, ever drink POM or Fiji Water... right?
Or buy flowers from any florist dealing with Teleflora.... right?
Or any items handled by the Franklin Mint... right?
Or navel oranges, pistachios and almonds in addition to pomegranates grown by Roll International... right?

Because all these come from Stewart and Lynda Resnick, billionaire liberal jerk offs in California who fund many far left causes. She helped Daniel Ellsberg distribute the Pentagon Papers back a number of years ago.

Keep your principles consistent...  no deviation. If you personally boycott Chik-fil-A simply because the guy is Christian and doesn't believe in gay marriage, then you CAN NOT use any of the products I mentioned. Now, maybe I should start going through all the liberal and far left owned corporations to find all the other products, services, etc. that you should never use either.


Posted by: PhilipJames at July 25, 2012 08:39 PM (hrysW)

450 I refuse to eat at In-N-Out Burger for obvious reasons.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 25, 2012 08:56 PM (4cRnj)

451 "Because all these come from Stewart and Lynda Resnick, billionaire liberal jerk offs in California who fund many far left causes. She helped Daniel Ellsberg distribute the Pentagon Papers back a number of years ago."
Yeah but like a lot of homosexuals, his sexuality is his primary and defining characteristic. That's what makes the difference. Are they pro-homosexual agenda? Then nothing else they do is really all that bad. Are they against it? Then they are despicable scum and must be completely opposed. Its really annoying and ultimately sad.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 25, 2012 09:04 PM (r4wIV)

452 Going to CFA Saturday, a trip already planned based on Facebook backlash by folks like Gabe who use whatever platform they have to encourage others to Avoid CFA I'm sick of this shit Gabe is an excellent writer and I usually read everything he writes. He didn't need that last sentence. He essentially "joined the boycott effort" with that. I thought he was brighter than that He did I something else. We are often encouraged to hit the Head Ewoks tip jar when Ace is nearing tilt (as in when Ace did yeoman work on the WEINER story last year and had to take a break). I hit the tip jar EVERY time, even if it's just $10-$25 because this is about the best $&Â¥+ing blog out there. Yeah it's not much but it supports this excellent work Not now. Yeah, many of you might tell me to take my chump change and readership elsewhere in blind defense of Gabe but until further notice every dime I would have used to hit the tip jar with will now go to CFA even if it is just to buy t shirts or gift certificates. Not looking for a retraction from Gabe, one is not forthcoming and it would be dishonest if he did it. But I've had it with the gay boycott faction.

Posted by: Nigel at July 25, 2012 09:11 PM (wHj25)

453 So let me update my scorecard... corporate personhood is super-cool when it's contributions to liberal organizations, right? Just like how super PACs are cool when they contribute to the lightbringer?

Whatever, any boycott of Chik-Fil-A will amount to a drop in the bucket because it will cause some to eat there more, and it's bigger in the south anyway. Plus, I can't imagine health-fascist Cali and NYC having a lot of those restaurants, and that's where the boycott will mostly carry.

Posted by: Karusky at July 25, 2012 09:25 PM (dO4L7)

454 Well I know whats for bteakfast.

Posted by: Jean at July 25, 2012 09:32 PM (dnFuB)

455 who cares about who's "bigoted?" people're either right or wrong on this issue. personally i have a tough time believing a lot of the people who say having two dads/two moms makes no difference actually think that, not to say adoption should be banned (and obviously it isn't) but soft preferences should be allowed

Posted by: JDP at July 25, 2012 09:57 PM (8HhF2)

456 There's a Chik Fil A a couple of blocks from where I work, but sadly they close before my later-than-normal lunch break begins.

I think I'll just have to take an early lunch from time to time. I'm lucky to have a supervisor who doesn't mind such things as long as my work gets done.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 25, 2012 10:02 PM (3yCFy)

457 Eating at Chick-fil-A = hatred? I'll eat where I want. Fuck you.

Posted by: The Fradgan at July 25, 2012 10:06 PM (ex+u8)

458 430 cheshirecat I'm not saying we have to be a right-wing echo chamber here. I'm saying that Gabe has set off a firestorm on a blog which does not belong to him while the owner is away. People are choosing not to hit the tip jar. That will directly affect Ace's bottom line. Ace has gone to bat for Gabe time and again, and a "h8rs gonna H8" attitude on *someone else's* blog is not respectful. I think Ace will put his friendship with Gabe ahead of his reputation and income stream, but I still think it's not nice to put Ace in that position.

Posted by: VKI at July 25, 2012 10:22 PM (TKoA3)

459 I don't have a problem with Gabe's opinion on gay marriage, nor with him stating it here, although I do disagree with it. He can still be counted on to disagree civilly.

Here, he's providing an objective view of the facts, and coming to the conclusion that some people who agree with him have crossed a line and he can't approve it, even though they crossed that line in pursuit of a cause he supports.

I respect Gabe's intellectual honesty. I don't have to agree with him to recognize it.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 25, 2012 10:23 PM (3yCFy)

460 Ugh, posted this on the ONT but probably should have posted it here instead: (And the chicken at CFA is so-so, but the drinks? Heaven. They make their lemonade by hand—I'm pretty sure their light lemonade is what ambrosia tastes like—and have amazing peach shakes in summer and peppermint ones in winter. They just barely had their dress like a cow day and our whole office went and got free food, good times.)

Posted by: LizLem, tired because it's been a long day and craving lemonade at July 25, 2012 10:41 PM (kDzQY)

461 Everybody knows how Gabe feels about gay marriage, and asking people on his own blog to join the boycott would have been entirely appropriate. If this post had cut out just the part where Gabe asked others to join, it would have been appropriate on this site while Ace is gone.

Posted by: VKI at July 25, 2012 10:53 PM (TKoA3)

462 As a result of this post and the comments, I'm doing two things in the near future: 1) eat at Chik-fil-A because others are trying to punish them for not agreeing with their political and social stances. 2) eat at Sonic because I was trying to punish them for not agreeing with my political and social stances. Time, I think, to grow a little – if only at the waistline.

Posted by: Glen at July 25, 2012 11:57 PM (Dg5AX)

463

Gabe, your take on boycotting vs. censorship draws the line right about where it should be. We've largely forgotten how to accomplish anything socially without offical government action.  I disagree with you on gay marriage, but can't gainsay your method of protest.  Let the target know why, don't try to extort them, and protest without interfering with the lives of those around you who may disagree.

Can't really ask for much more.  Good call.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 26, 2012 12:08 AM (yK8YH)

464

The CEO of CFA is entitled to own opinion.  So is Gabe. 

When said CEO chooses to speak publicly for God on an issue and pisses off part of his customer base, they have the right to make him walk the talk.

Disclosure:  I don't support gay marriage, but not on religious grounds.  Even honest homosexuals would admit their sexual conduct is abberrant and contrary to the traditional society norm of procreation between a male and female.  I oppose persecution of homosexuals as much as I oppose the idea of government actively promoting their lifestyle.   

That said, when is the last time that anyone personally invoking God's judgment (Robertson/Falwell 9-11, this incident, etc) made life better for anyone (or won a single convert to Christianity) ?

I was raised as a Christian.  My pastors would have said "let God take care of his own affairs - he doesn't need your help."

Gabe's wrong on gay marriage, but that doesn't justify the treatment he's getting from some commenters.

 

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at July 26, 2012 12:28 AM (yK8YH)

465 I still don't understand how saying gay marriage is going to bring on God's punishment is somehow anti-gay or "homophobic". Dan Cathy never said anything about what HE thought of gays or gay marriage. Whether right or wrong, he is just speculating at what he thinks God is going to do. Actions and contributions by CFA notwithstanding, Cathy's statement itself does not necessarily reflect Cathy's personal opinion toward gays--but we all have known (they close on Sunday is a good hint) so now everyone becomes outraged? Besides, if one doesn't believe in God to begin with, the statement means nothing anyway.

Posted by: mikey at July 26, 2012 01:47 AM (GSeVd)

466 468 I agree. This was a discussion for one's own blog. Not someone else's. It comes across as trying to use a guest soapbox to slam the people who invited you to guest-host.

Very unbecoming.

Posted by: Shawn at July 26, 2012 01:53 AM (/lltO)

467 Gabe doesn't appear to understand the depth of the problem here and is aiding and abetting the left. No more AOSHQ or me.

Posted by: Erik at July 26, 2012 02:12 AM (ERY1p)

468 Hai there. You must be new, or something. Welcome to the HQ! I'm not a guestblogger. I'm not just filling in while Ace is gone. I write here and have done since 2007. So this place is kinda like an online home for me. Welcome. Try not to spill anything on the furniture.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at July 26, 2012 02:50 AM (DhD8T)

469 Yeah I know Gabe isn't at this level but here are the type of peeps Gabe falls in with: http://tinyurl.com/ceyfq9k I know he doesn't wish cancer but by advocating the boycott he throws in with those who do. He would rightfully be indignant at those who wish AIDS at the gay community. Awaiting his response to the "tolerant" on his side of the issue but I suspect he will keep his opinion "legal". Which of course he could have done in the first place and this shitstorm would have been averted

Posted by: Nigel at July 26, 2012 02:56 AM (wHj25)

470 Not very Libertarian Gabe. Pretty far leftist boycott is what you seem.

Posted by: miikeb at July 26, 2012 03:02 AM (U3CzV)

471 I have only eaten there two, maybe three times, but I'm going to do it a lot more now. Not because it's a "gay" issue but because government is now involved in a free speech issue.  And considering all the pro Chick fil A FB posts I am seeing I think their business will only grow because of it.

Posted by: TRO at July 26, 2012 03:08 AM (ad/F8)

472 I am going to start eating there every day. Never have before but I am certainly going to now.

Posted by: JLFINTX at July 26, 2012 03:45 AM (Wnk4X)

473 Gabe participates in the 21st century bigotry special. No Christians are allowed to have an opinion or say in anything and to do so, means their lives should be shredded. Good job Gabe, you're going to make August 1st gigantic and a pushback to all the anti-Christian rhetoric. And btw, Chik-fil-A is good and they don't have some gay antidote in them, in case you were fearful.

Posted by: Haunchie at July 26, 2012 03:53 AM (TnjNu)

474 So I guess I should reconsider my plans to visit Boston on my upcoming vacation.  They might scan me and find out I've eaten at a Chick-Fil-A recently and lock me up.  Seriously, am an American history buff and never been to Bean Town, but now, gee, why should I patronize them?

Posted by: Stonewall at July 26, 2012 04:25 AM (qPvo+)

475 With the exception of this post, there are two things I never read.;

GMalor posts and remarks by Jenny tries to hard.

Posted by: JLFINTX at July 26, 2012 04:27 AM (Wnk4X)

476

Chick-fil-A doesn't discriminate against gays or anyone else by refusing to serve them. That would be a problem. They have really good breakfasts, I never really took advantage since it was kind of a hike...but two new ones have opened close by and I will be patronizing them regularly.

 

I don't understand why local politicians would deprive their COMMUNITY of really good quality relatively low cost food...not to mention the jobs that the restaurants bring.

 

I haven't read all the comments, but did see that some are not close enough to Chik-Fil-A to buy the food. Anyone who wishes to support can contribute to the Winshape Foundation, which is a charity Truett Cathy established to serve underprivileged youth. note: the Foundation is based on fundamentalist Christian principles, so if that offends you then move along.

Posted by: kallisto at July 26, 2012 04:30 AM (jm/9g)

477

It looks to me like we have our very own John Roberts, right here at AOSHQ.  If I wanted leftist dreck then I'd go to The Daily Kos.  WTF.

Posted by: too bad at July 26, 2012 04:43 AM (89ivb)

478

@484 -

 

Gabe is familiar enough with the HQ "family" to recognize drive-by commenters who show up to cause discord in the ranks.

Posted by: kallisto at July 26, 2012 04:47 AM (jm/9g)

479 Hey Gabe, you're on the wrong blog.  Try the Daily Kos.

Posted by: Jesusland at July 26, 2012 04:55 AM (jIlzK)

480

Well, the right wanted DOMA...which is kinda fascist on its face...and the chickie fil controversy is the left's version of pushing back...which is kinda fascist, on its face.

Get the government - and everyone else - out of our private relationships...and out of our marriages. You know? Constitution. Right to privacy, Bill of Rights, weird shit like that. If we actually paid any attention to individual freedom and liberty, things like gay rights, DOMA and Chick-fli-a wouldn't be issues.

 Instead, you (left, right and center) want to use government to control everyone else..and turn them into good little drones, just like yourselves.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at July 26, 2012 05:05 AM (WwR1j)

481

I eat at Chik-fil-a because I like it. I don't mind if the gay's don't because they want to exercise their market preference. That's just business and it's fine by me. I don't watch movies with Matt Damon and his ilk for the same reason.  However, I reject emphatically the supposition of the arguement that by disagreeing with someone's position that you can only do so from "hating" them. That's bullshit designed to inflame the passion of supporters and demonize the opposition. So, I'll eat at Chik-fil-a because I like their food and continue to eat their for the same reason. That I can give the middle finger to all the people that assume "they hate the gays because they won't walk in lockstep with my uber-tolerence" is just bonus points.

Posted by: Rob B. at July 26, 2012 05:08 AM (q32Ly)

482 4 Chik Fil A is awesome, fuck you all. Forget gay marriage, any politician that stands between a normal American and a chick fil A is unelectable.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2012 07:45 PM (P2Tu5)

Here Here!!!!! I agree with joeindc! I love Chick-fil-a, and there happens to be one right down the street from my office. There is NO better run fast food business out there. They are efficient, polite, go over the top for the customers, and the food is yummy!  They don't discriminate and are not doing anything wrong in their business model. The fact that the owner of the business has the audacity to voice his opinion, and in return gets this type of vitriol for it, is outright fascist. There is nothing liberal about todays' "liberals". It's their way or the highway, and no one can disagree with their opinions and beliefs without being called names, accused of all sorts of civil rights violations, and boycotted or protested.  This is as un-American as it gets!

 

Posted by: TrishandChips at July 26, 2012 05:15 AM (sGB8L)

483 I support Chik-fil-a. This war was brought to them. They didn't seek it out.





Posted by: DiogenesLamp at July 26, 2012 05:16 AM (v7Nqc)

484 485

...but the point stands...Let's be honest, readers come here to have their beliefs affirmed, get a good helping of red meat, have a few laughs and bash the left.  Gabe's comment, while a reasonable argument, disaffirms the conservative world view and makes this site less, not more enjoyable.  Please spare me the "I am confident in my beliefs and they can withstand criticism" argument.  We are here for recreation and entertainment compatible with our political belief system and his pro gay marriage post runs counter to that.  It's Ace's sandbox and of course he can have anyone he likes post.  He is a master at knowing his audience, hence the success of his site but I'm surprised that someone who knows his audience so well would enlist a guest-blogger who farts in the elevator, so to speak.  I will still read and enjoy his posts but less so knowing that he stands with the left on this issue.

 

Posted by: too bad at July 26, 2012 05:25 AM (89ivb)

485

Posted by: too bad at July 26, 2012 09:25 AM (89ivb)

___

 

Are you so parochial in your views that you assume frequenters of a conservative site do not enjoy the friendship and/or familial relationship of gay people in our personal lives? Many - if not most of whom - support gay marriage and therefore differ with us in that regard?

 

In other words, we can appreciate and respect divergent views regarding gay marriage and the support thereof   IRL. It stands to reason that we're big enough boys and girls that we can deal with it in cyberspace.

 

Right?

Posted by: kallisto at July 26, 2012 05:31 AM (jm/9g)

486 An alleged conservative boycotting a conservative institution over the conservative institution's contributions to pro-marriage organization is pathetic.  Why is Gabriel even writing on this blog????

Posted by: Matt at July 26, 2012 05:37 AM (c4srZ)

487 So you don't think government should be the oppressor, but you have no problem calling for a boycott.  Very classy.

Posted by: Terry Smyly at July 26, 2012 05:38 AM (DBUxb)

488
Well, I oppose same-sex "marriage," so I'll be pleased to belly up to the Chick-fil-A bar on August 1 and support that fine company.

Gabe, you enjoy your badgerburger or whatever.

Posted by: Pancho Goldberg at July 26, 2012 05:53 AM (i5153)

489 Wow Gabe always knew you were a double agent, this just confirms it. Pick a side and stick with it. I don't agree with the the views of the boss of chickfila but I love his food and that's why I go there for so I'll eat there, that's all there is to it. The rest is just nonsense.

Posted by: Paul in N. AL at July 26, 2012 05:53 AM (AIp9v)

490 * Many - if not most of whom - support gay marriage and therefore differ with us in that regard?*

So you encourage boycotting an staunchly conservative business, which stands up for values that conservatives supposedly support, so gays can change the definition of marriage, one of those institutions that most conservatives think is good for the country, to support a small minority of people who probably hate you anyway, because of your alleged conservatism.

And every time gays do something like this (ie use exaggeration, hyperbole to make an alleged point) it simply solidifies my opposition to whatever it is they want.  Changing hearts and minds, one lie at a time, I guess.

Posted by: Matt at July 26, 2012 05:53 AM (c4srZ)

491 Lemme see: preventing mosque built near Ground Zero is intolerant, but blocking a Chick-Fil-A from being built is what?

Posted by: LouDogg at July 26, 2012 05:54 AM (rO6ax)

492

I'm against most boycotts. They rarely ever work because they are inconsistantly and arbitrarely applied. All they ever do is let a company know that a particular segment of population is offended. However, they rarely ever stop the unoffended from doing business with the company and have very little impact on a company's bottom line. Have Ford, HBO, Target, Walmart, and P&G gone into bankruptcy because of boycotts?

If a business provides subpar service by all means stop giving it your money. Instead, why not write the CEO of the company a letter expressing  your disdain for his opinions and/or his companies policies? If you applied your logic to Chick Fila , why is the company doing business in places where gay marriage is legal, i.e. the District of Columbia and Maryland?

Posted by: Wendy at July 26, 2012 06:09 AM (KydDZ)

493

Posted by: Matt at July 26, 2012 09:53 AM (c4srZ)

___

 

I support a personal boycott of any business for whatever reason the individual sees fit.

 

For example: my BF asked me to pick up a hot sausage sandwich for him at the farmer's market. As the Amish girl handed me the sandwich, I noticed that her fingernails were black around the cuticles - all ten of them. I was positively disgusted, if the sandwich were for me instead of BF, I would have handed it back because at that moment I had lost my appetite for any foodstuff originating at that stand.

 

I told BF about the lack of personal hygiene on the part of the  food preparer, and told him it WAS UP TO HIM if he wanted to patronize that stand, but that I advised against it. If anyone asks me about that particular merchant, I'll tell them the same thing just for the sake of their own health.

 

I think you're confused about the difference between personal choice in deciding which businesses to patronize and a government agency deciding for you based on whatever whim suits it at the time.

to support a small minority of people who probably hate you anyway, because of your alleged conservatism.

 

Why would you jump to the conclusion that anyone in my personal network  hates me based on my political beliefs? It must be a terrible way to move through life, always imagining hate where none exists.

Posted by: kallisto at July 26, 2012 06:18 AM (jm/9g)

494 For those not within striking distance of a CFA- they have merchandise available on their website if you are inclined to support them.  I'll be ordering a t-shirt myself.  I would rather have some tasty chicken, but oh well.

Posted by: Bilbo McFonzie at July 26, 2012 06:47 AM (aKt3y)

495 @496, Amen.  Gabe is a GOProud "conservative"

Posted by: Andrew at July 26, 2012 06:48 AM (HS3dy)

496 I need to find me some Chick-fil-A.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at July 26, 2012 07:10 AM (X3KAb)

497 Well, I'm late to the fray again but I must add my 2 cents: Gabe should be at DailyKos, not here.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at July 26, 2012 07:51 AM (deaac)

498 This tears it, I'm off to have a number one with a lemonade

Posted by: Tom22ndState at July 26, 2012 07:55 AM (HkH1Q)

499 Make sure not to support anyone who provides help to the cause of protecting the institution of marriage from being made a shitbag perversion of the hate-filled left. Wouldn't want that.

Fucking fool.

Posted by: ccoffer at July 26, 2012 08:05 AM (4DRxe)

500

Gabe has the right to ask people to not eat at Chick-fil-A.

We have the right to say no.

 

I don't see the problem here.

 

I have my own personal boycott of Ben and Jerry's going on. I don't care how good it is, they are commie shitbags and Mumia supporters. Do they care? Of course not. They may be raking in the dough, but none of it came from me. Which is nice.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at July 26, 2012 08:30 AM (YmPwQ)

501 Chick-Fil-A, their management is Christian... DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.

What, that's basically the argument here, right?  Don't do business with Christians because they're icky and evil?

Color me under-impressed... when I want some chicken my requirement is that you don't be offensive to me personally, and make some good chicken.

The "company" will hire you, serve you, and treat you the same regardless of your sexual proclivities... so why is the "company" someone I shouldn't do business with?

Because someone somewhere might make money they'll give to a cause I don't like?

My dad doesn't like gay marriage; do you keep track of his stock investments so you can avoid doing business with those companies too?  I mean if you don't you're helping my dad; who might give money to someone you don't like...

Sorry, if the company has a policy, etc you don't like that's one thing... but you've gone a bit overboard here by my reasoning.  7 degrees of boycotting or something.

Posted by: gekkobear at July 26, 2012 08:32 AM (X0NX1)

502 Welcome to the USSA. #thugocracy

Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at July 26, 2012 08:55 AM (F0o5k)

503 <i>I decided not to eat there since I don't want to help fund such groups</i>

Good luck with that.  What a tool.

Posted by: G Joubert at July 26, 2012 09:47 AM (jVNNi)

504 "Well, the right wanted DOMA...which is kinda fascist on its face"
The word 'fascist' does not mean 'things I disagree with.'
"What, that's basically the argument here, right? Don't do business with Christians because they're icky and evil?
Color me under-impressed"
Yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 26, 2012 09:54 AM (r4wIV)

505 The Archangel Gabriel does not approve Gabe's boycott. Nor do I.

Posted by: Kevin Copple at July 26, 2012 05:33 PM (QjtsV)

506 "It's Chicago, and Gabe's loss. "

I believe you mean "Gaybe's loss".

Posted by: Julio Cruz at July 26, 2012 05:54 PM (3fC3n)

507

You sir:

Have given me a tad more faith in this democracy. Thank you for speaking out. While I'm sure it is this and but a sparse few other issues on which we would agree, the core is that separation of church and state means neither making moves to suppress of circumvent the other. This is government attacking a company for its religious views and nothing else.

I agree with you on this, itÂ’s a private business that is entitled to its views. If you disagree, don't eat there, but don't make it harder for me or others to eat mor chikin please.

Again, Thank you for your voice.... and also thank you for trying to not dignify the silliness of it all with a comment until it was obviously necessary.

Posted by: andrew kairis at July 27, 2012 12:30 AM (6TXwr)

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