1 We'll slap you ace.

2 >>But no, no. That most South Carolinians who voted in the republican primary are absolute chowderheads to not vote for Romney is a much more realistic assumption. You're smarter than all those people. You understand what makes them tick better than they do.

You don't seem to be sparing any effort in claiming this particular mantle for yourself, forthright as you are in declaring that Coulter's wrong and you're right by contrast.

3 Ding Ding Ding! I've said before and I'll say again, Newt's best performance was not slapping down John King, it was the line about the kids being able to move their 25 year old out of their house. That was the line!

4 We'll slap you ace Laura.

5 They're not outliers:

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls

Newt pulled ahead in our Florida polling today as well, although we have him up by less than the Ras/IA polls

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls

Mitt never actually lost support in our SC polling. He just stayed in place. He's losing support in our FL polling

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls

Only 63% of Mitt's 2008 voters in FL supporting him again...this is a recurring problem...doesn't inspire passionate following

6 Yeah, why jab Obama and the MFM? These zingers are stupid. We should let the Inevitable Mitt run on his "Obama is a great president, the economy is getting better" line.

7 Listen up "Angry will get you nowhere"...this shit is real and it's time we all got real pissed...save your we want a "smart guy" for another election!

8 Should've gaped them but according to PPP, they're releasing a florida poll soon saying Newts in the lead. Florida doesnt matter anyway. Nevada does.

When does Newt release his f and f contract.

9

Work. The one time I had  a  job  I  felt  like  a  spy  behind  enemy  lines . 

 I  like to steal rich people's money and give it to government workers who do nothing but worship me.

10 That's why Gingrich won. Also the uneasy feeling that Romney will just be a steadier hand on the Titanic's wheel, freeing up the Democrats to leave the bridge and pick our pockets.

11 You all want Newt,fine,I will vote for him.I hope he wins,I really do.

12 Why does anybody take Coulter seriously?  She's a professional shark-jumper.  If her opinion doesn't make people gasp she'll find a new opinion.

13 Fair point, xnym. I just think it's always a facile thing, and also a mistake, to assume a majority of the electorate is stupid for not doing what you want them to do.

14 Dang LauraW, you sure know how to turn a guy's head. Mmm!

15 For what is worth, I voted for Romney in the SC primary on Tuesday, but I can certainly see why he hasn't hit a chord in SC.

He's a squish.

16 newt sucks. really. dede scozofava?

17 Laura W. Great post.

18 There's an ideological rot in this country, eating away at our vitality and encouraging parasitism and sloth.

I agree with lots of what you said here, even though I'm a dirty, stinking, Rino, Romney supporter.  Nonetheless, it is painful to contemplate the notion of a K Street influence peddler as the paragon of nonparasitism. That, and my conviction that Gingrich can't win. 

19 She did date Keith, after all.

20 Newt and Mittens have both done a good job at convincing people they're against Obama. Newt has just been better at persuading people that he's actually on our fuckin' side. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

21 Chris Christie needs to feed that poor emaciated girl some of his glazed donuts. Her brain is shriveling up.

22 How come yoshi doesn't have a date stamp?

23 I work in an office, and one thing I've noticed is that none of my coworkers' teenage kids have jobs.

They get their first job after graduating from college, which they drive to in the new car their parents bought for them.

When I was in high school, I had a part-time job as a dishwasher.  I hated it, of course.  But my mom made me get one, and I liked the paycheck.

24 Speaking of hysterical supporters of Romney, Chris Christie is getting torn several new azzholes for his attack of Gingrich over the House ethics complaints by Mark Levin. It's simply glorious.

I'd be shocked if Christie took Levin's challenge for a debate over the topic.

25 Well Coulter now thinks the average conservative is too stupid to make intelligent choices in an election. Her journey to the dark side is complete. She is now ready to join the MBM and the Democrats, but I repeat myself.

26 Mr. Obama is a well intentioned, bright man - Romney paraphrase.

We need someone to sock him. Though Gingrich goes off sometimes, "food stamp President" is a nice line.

27

We all have fears that one or the other cannot beat Obama. I will of course support Newt or Romeny. Still, we have our fears.

28 For someone who has thrown as much fire on the flames as Ann has, it is pretty disingenous of her to sit in judgement of the Newt for putting that puke in his place.

29 Why should this surprisde anyone?Coulter has always been a bomb thrower.Any enemy gets both barrels,R or D or independent.She backed Christie to the hilt so of course she is backing the skinnier,handsomer Christie for the nomination.I genuinely think she believes Newt can't win.

30 Wow, talk about conflicted.

I just saw an Anti-Romney TV ad, tying him to medicare fraud and dredging up the old crap about Rick Scott.  It even finished with a picture of Romney and Scott together.

Run by AFSMCE.

Looks like this union would rather see Obama run against Newt.

31 Newt has just been better at persuading people that he's actually on our f****** side.

Well, people that think like us, anyway.  Pity that won't be enough, and Newt is radioactive to the rest of the country.

32 All the blue-blood, no callouses mofos are gonna call us names and try to shame us back onto the straight and narrow.
Not buying it.

Ann Coulter can go swallow another Rubik's Cube or piss her little black dress and stamp her tiny foot in anger all she wants.
She can look across the elegant table and call me a stupid hick to all her little candy-ass pals.

None of it keeps my truck from starting in the morning.

I'm backing Newt until he wins or drops out.

33 How come yoshi doesn't have a date stamp? He put some html after his name.

34 Meee-yooooh! Kitten's got some claws. Nice one, Laura.

35 Yep, just one more smarter person than us dum ol moron hiks.

36

The democrat party is that rot. The democrats are the party that now promises to take one persons hard work and hand it to someone who doesn't do shit. All in the name "fairness". All without a budget!

37 Looks like this union would rather see Obama run against Newt.

Maybe so. Maybe they cut the ad a week ago when Romney was in the lead. Hard to tell really.

38 "hunchbacked, three large teeth that don't meet anywhere"

I have an unimpeachable witness that says this is BS

39 I despise Obama with every fiber of my being.I enjoy making nicknames for us and belittling him.I aldso realise that,unfortunately,such talk turns off many people.Many Americans,even ones who think Obama is a lousy president,inexplicably to me,like him.Are they going to appreciate a rather ugly little chubby guy calling him names?Is that going to get their vote??

40 Yes, Ann, please tell us all about how we trolls should control our vile and offensive rhetoric (or votes) so as not to upset the applecart for the ultraintelligent "undecideds."

Coulter has completely lost it. She's flinging so much sheise around I think she'll need more hair dye to combat the splatter.

41 The 'em' tag isn't working.

42 I'm not saying that you should vote for Newt. I'm saying that the reason he won isn't because everybody is stupid.

43 Posted by: pep at January 23, 2012 07:20 PM

Nailed it.  Gingrich will win probably ninety-five to one hundred percent of conservative voters.  And precisely no one else.

Only conservatives are keenly aware of the inherent bias of the media, which means only conservatives will respond to his blustery attacks on the "elite media."

44 Look, I am a liberal and OWS are a bunch of loons.

Top capitalists have Obama's ear - see Google, Berkshire, GE, Oracle, Apple, Time Warner, Disney, etc.

The bullshit on "wealth envy" is just to get the rubes to vote GOP.

45 We all have fears that one or the other cannot beat Obama.

Those are my smaller fears.  My larger fear is that the Republican will beat Obama, but he won't be willing or able to do that U-turn we so badly need.

46

No, actually, the assumption that most of y'all are D-U-M dumb is a pretty good one.

Telling people they're dumb will get you nowhere, of course.  Coulter's being dumb too.  But people are still dumb.

90% of everything is crap, including voters.

47 OK, then the reason he won is that SCians are 'emotionally driven'. Better?

48 Whats Ann Coulter is worrying about that she knows what is obvious. That Newt that no chance of winning a general election and she like me is scared to death that the republicans little catharsis is going to leave obama the incompetent in the White House for another 4 years.

49 That most South Carolinians who voted in the republican primary are absolute chowderheads to not vote for Romney is a much more realistic assumption.

I thought the chowderheads (New England, ya' know) would have voted for Mitten?  Palmettoheads would have worked bettah'.

50 I'm not saying that you should vote for Newt. I'm saying that the reason he won isn't because everybody is stupid.
Posted by: lauraw at January 23, 2012 07:22 PM

Now that wasn't so hard, was it?

51 44 I know that.Coulter though,that's her style.We like it when we agree with her.

52

Do I want Newt for POTUS?  Heck, I don't know - I'm in Texas, so I've got time to see how things shake out.

All I can say is that if Romney wants my vote, he's going to have to convince me that he WANTS it, and so far, he just hasn't done that.  And I'm not happy about voting for someone who thinks that it's "his turn".

Perry was my choice, but he isn't in the race any more.

So until I see some passion from Romney (and I just can't vote for Santorum or Paul), I'm going to back the (very) flawed Newtser.

Because I want someone who is willing to take no prisoners when it comes to Obama and these crooks who are currently in charge.

"I can't spare the man - he FIGHTS!!!!!" (Stuff Lincoln Mighta Said)

53 Wonder how her book sales are, presently? Something tells me the dopes aren't lapping up the Coulter schtick like they used to...

54 I know that.Coulter though,that's her style.We like it when we agree with her. Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2012 07:24 PM

Exactly.  She needs to start lobbing those bombs the other way.

55 51 Yeah,that's what I think.She's scared and she lashes out.

56 Is there a link to what Coulter actuall said anywhere?

57

Yup....well said.

An additional point to be made is that - regardless of who the Republican nominee is - I wish we would go after the African-American vote with vigor. Obama's economy sucks, but the statistics are absolutely horrendous for African-Americans. It's time that they stop automatically pulling the lever for the D just because that means more free stuff.  Newt kind of touched on that in his 'work' diatribe to Juan Williams, and I liked it.

 

58 Posted by: Clarence

Oh goody.  I really needed the comedy relief to show up tonight.  Thanks Clarence.

59

Lurve me some hunchback.

60 @26- If this election cycle has done anything, it's that yes, most conservatives ARE too dumb to make intelligent decisions in an election. Just like everyone else. Need I remind you, Herman Cain was once considered the frontrunner. Hell, Donald fucking Trump once polled well as a potential candidate.

61 Since a politician's job is to know what the electorate is thinking and wants, not knowing or caring what that is turns out to be pretty dumb too.

62 Newt comes across not only as someone willing and eager to fight, but also as someone who will pull a "checkers" moment after being thrown in the briarpatch.

63 Romney is an accomplished member of the elite, because he accomplished things.  Newt doid too.  However the notion that Mitt is a snob, but Newt is just folks is inane beyond comprehension.  I doubt Newt spent a lot of his nights down to the Moose lodge with the rest of the goobers. 

64 I guess Coulter has sold enough books/has enough money.

65 23 sandy burger

I agree. I've had a job since I was 12 and made sure my son had one in high school. He chose to work while in college, mostly because his Dad wasn't into sending him spending money.

66 It’s being taken up by the schools, too. A few years ago our alumni magazine included, as a full-page ad to get alumni to donate, a photo of a student working at a fast food restaurant with the caption, Life’s too important to ask, “would you like fries with that?” It boggled my mind, and I’m rarely surprised by the stupid things that happen in the university environment.

67 Coulter's problem?

She is wealthy enough to live in one of the high end neighborhoods in Connecticut.  She spends too much time with liberals and thinks she has an understanding of the electorate based on that experience.

68 He's on in the morning and rhymes with anus.  -Levin 

Winna.

69 If this election cycle has done anything, it's that yes, most conservatives ARE too dumb to make intelligent decisions in an election. Just like everyone else. Need I remind you, Herman Cain was once considered the frontrunner. Hell, Donald fucking Trump once polled well as a potential candidate.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 07:28 PM (X3vSL)

that's why all the crap talk before we actually got them in front of voters was a waste of time.  The voters decide who makes it, like it or not.

70 We like it when we agree with her.

Not really. She sells red meat to avowed carnivores. It makes her oodles of money. And satisfies a lot of folks appetite but doesn't convince anyone of the merits of our ideology if they aren't already a believer. She makes it harder to convert people. In that way I dislike her style, and I avoid contributing to her commercial success as a result.

71 44 I'm not saying that you should vote for Newt. I'm saying that the reason he won isn't because everybody is stupid.

Posted by: lauraw at January 23, 2012 07:22 PM (DbybK)

Exactly, just like people weren't stupid for backing Christine O'Donnell. Was she a shitty candidate? Absolutely. But that was against the establishment backed prick who flipped the bird to conservatives every chance he got.

If I lived in DE, I'd have probably bit the bullet and voted for Castle, hell, I'm in NY and voted Lazio over Paladino for the same reason. But I don't think the voters here nor there were "stupid" not to pick the soft liberal losers pushed by the establishment. Though I don't think it's all that "smart" of the super-genius crowd to push such candidates in a year when the conservative base is fired up...

72 Mitt and his supporters need to take this and Ace's morning post to heart if they want the nomination and to win the general. Stop calling people who want someone who voices conservative beliefs stupid. I'm not comfortable with Newt "Ryan's plan is right wing social engineering" but if Mitt can't decide to sell himself to me: political newbie -circa late 2008 who wants a serious fiscal conservative who will fight hard to cut spending because that is the only way to cut the deficit -- I will sit out my primary. And if Newt goes on to win l I will hope his desire to be a big chapter in the history books instead of just an author, doesn't lead him astray and that a POTUS Gingrich leads congress to take back power that no POTUS should have anyway in a bipartisan fashion.

73 HmÂ… looks like HTML has been removed from comments. You can follow the link on my name to see the ad.

74 44I'm not saying that you should vote for Newt. I'm saying that the reason he won isn't because everybody is stupid.

Posted by: lauraw at January 23, 2012 07:22 PM (DbybK)

Great point.  Newt & Mitt both have their strengths and weaknesses, our differences are all matters of opinion.  Neither are that bad, I'm leaning Newt but in the end I really don't care who wins.

Its going to be a hard election against the Boshevik machine.  I think its an uphill battle and the nominee will need to think outside the box this time. 

75 where he stood up for work. Where he discussed the essential virtues of work. Nobody does that anymore. It was refreshing. It was important to me to hear someone say it... Was that at the pier before getting on the cruise ship for Greece? There's enough cognitive disconnect wih Mr. "Freddie Mac Outsider/Consultant/Not Influence Peddler" to make Ham the Chimp hit the Christine McCauliffe button.

76 If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michaelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, " Here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well."

77 For me, it was the part where he stood up for work. Where he discussed the essential virtues of work.

Also, Newt's hair style rocks.

78 74 Most people aren't persuadable anyway.Ever tried to persuade a liberal?Even thoughtful ones are almost impossible to move off their positions.

79 Well, people that think like us, anyway. Pity that won't be enough, and Newt is radioactive to the rest of the country.

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2012 07:20 PM (6TB1Z)

 

I seem to remember that's what many people were saying about Newt in SC and FL too.  Oh, and to you spineless, pussed-out whiners out there.  The SCOAMT is going to lose in a fucking landslide, no matter if it's Romney or Newt.

80 She Newt sells red meat to avowed carnivores. It makes her him oodles of money. And satisfies a lot of folks appetite but doesn't convince anyone of the merits of our ideology if they aren't already a believer. She He makes it harder to convert people. In that way I dislike her his style, and I avoid contributing to her his commercial success as a result.

FIFY.  And I actually do like Newt's style, as a political commentator.  As a presidential nominee he has the wrong style.  And yes, Romney needs to show some spunk, too. 

81 ...likes pudding. Understandably. It's frickin' delicious! Laura, Be careful: you don't know what's been dipped in that sweet savory. Do you get a nutty flavor? Cordially...

82 Hmmm, looks like the strikeouts dropped out.  Interesting.

83 Well, people that think like us, anyway. Pity that won't be enough, and Newt is radioactive to the rest of the country. Posted by: pep at January 23, 2012 07:20 PM (6TB1Z) I seem to remember that's what many people were saying about Newt in SC and FL too. Oh, and to you spineless, pussed-outwhiners out there. The SCOAMT is going to lose in a fucking landslide, no matter if it's Romney or Newt.

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2012 07:33 PM (cqLNL)

For someone who is so electable, Mitt sure has problems with actual elections.

84 Well, people that think like us, anyway. Pity that won't be enough, and Newt is radioactive to the rest of the country.

The estimates are that gas will hit $5 to $6 a gallon this summer, and then fuel oil will be through the roof by the time November rolls around. The new EPA regulations will cut 8 percent of our energy-producing capabilities, and about 70 coal plants will close in the next few months. Electricity bills will double, and the price of food will be much higher due to gas prices.

Come November, nobody is going to be talking about how they think Newt is radioactive, especially when the GOP runs millions of ads of Obama saying in his own words, "Under my plan, energy costs will necessarily skyrocket," as well as reminders of how he killed Keystone.

Also, doctors are finally waking up to the fact that they're all going to be put out of business in 2014, and they're telling all their patients.

Newt was never popular. He's always had high negatives, yet he won elections. The exit polling in South Carolina showed that he beat Romney in every single demographic, including women and married women.

I think you far overstate his negatives currently, but by November of this year the entire nation is going to be screaming for mercy from Obamanomics.

85 84 Hope to God you are right.Really.We can't afford 4 more years of this mob that's for sure.

86 right Lauraw, or emotional,
He actually spoke about how to on jobs, how to get the children out of the house with jobs,m talked about OIL in america not being beholden to anyone else, He speaks of americas greatness.
i guess some think us jobless are stupid and shouldn't be concerned that it isn't mentioned with fervor. We know he worked on contract with america, welfare reform. even if not everything.
we also know he can be a jerk.
But others assume we only care that he rants at the media . while a plus, (it's certainly better than kissing their feet hoping for a kind word from them), it certainly isn't the reason
as far as calling people stupid , it is just not helpful.
Ann you Can do better than that.
!abo!

87 I think you far overstate his negatives currently, but by November of this year the entire nation is going to be screaming for mercy from Obamanomics.

Posted by: Llarry at January 23, 2012 07:35 PM (Rnfm0)

Which is why we should be choosing the most conservative candidate possible. Not McRomney...

88 Does Newt REALLY think talking about Saul Alinsky will get moderates and independents and disgruntled Democrats behind him? Newt 2012: Because You Care About Saul Alinsky THAT Much!

89 Most people aren't persuadable anyway.Ever tried to persuade a liberal?Even thoughtful ones are almost impossible to move off their positions.

If we operate under that presumption then we have already lost and we might as well go home. Despite the polling data about self identification most folks are not "conservative" otherwise Obama would never have gotten elected. If we can't go after the middle and show them the light we are a lost nation.

90 Will not vote for Newty. Nope.

91 Coulter couldn't get Hardy, so she's settling for Laurel.

92 lauraw is most effective spokesperson I've read to date for the hunchback demographic. My hat is off.
 
Coulter is ignorable in my book. Strident harpy, meet Ann.
 
Newt is the only one on the stump now to call out the SCoaMF as an Alinsky socialist/Marxist. I admire that. Plus it's true -- just look at his appointment record. Let's see Mitts take off the gloves where they really matter. Then he can move up in esteem points with me.
 
Punch up, Mitt. Not down. Loser to McCain is no way to go through life, chump. No fancy 59 point plan is going to fix that. Nope, you need to articulate why you are going to bring a wrecking ball to the dance.

93 @75- Supporting a shitty candidate that was all but GUARANTEED to lose wasn't stupid? Compared to what? Porcupine juggling? Unfucking believable.

94 Somebody forgot to feed the server hamsters...

95 Stephen Price Blair:
a photo of a student working at a fast food restaurant with the caption, Life’s too important to ask, “would you like fries with that?”


I hate hate hate the sneering classism many people have towards fast food workers.  (It's not exclusively a liberal thing, but I see it much more on the left than on the right.)

There is intrinsic dignity to doing honest work.

96 Does Newt REALLY think talking about Saul Alinsky will get moderates and independents and disgruntled Democrats behind him? Newt 2012: Because You Care About Saul Alinsky THAT Much!

No but it doesn't hurt him to talk about it in the primary. What's Obama going to do, take a primary snippet with newt bashing Alinsky and make it into a campaign ad? not likely. Newt is a politician, and an eminently moderate one at that. He will tack left for the general.

97 For someone who is so electable, Mitt sure has problems with actual elections.

I said some time ago that Romney would have a harder time in the primary than in the general.  I stand by that.  For all of you Newtonians, if Newt wins, I hope to God you are right.  But I don't think you are.

And Soona, grow up.

98

Does Newt REALLY think talking about Saul Alinsky will get moderates and independents and disgruntled Democrats behind him?

See, this is the advantage of being known as a professor: Newt can talk about Alinsky and Joe Six-pack will blank on the name, but assume -- because Newt's smart -- that he knows what he's talking about.

99 Does Newt REALLY think talking about Saul Alinsky will get moderates and independents and disgruntled Democrats behind him? Newt 2012: Because You Care About Saul Alinsky THAT Much!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 07:37 PM (niZvt)

Wait, are we in the general election now.So Newt won?

100 The attitude of contempt toward work is perfectly understandable in a country where teachers tell the children to go to college and get a white-collar job because "You wouldn't want to get your hands dirty, would you?"

101 95 I said the left is not persuadable.To the extent their is a "middle" they are extremely uninformed at best.Just seeing an unattractive guy might be enough to turn them off.I don't trust the middle worth a damn.

102 106 Yep.

103 I'm sorry to disagree, but I believe Ann Coulter is correct and have been saying something similar for sometime.

Simply, the conservative movement isn't acting in a manner that maps to it's rhetoric:

The movement claims to be against insiders and crony capitalism -- Newt Gingrich was reprimanded by a 395–28 margin in the House for ethics vioaltions. The Ethics Committee's Special Counsel, James M. Cole, concluded that Gingrich had violated federal tax law and had lied to the ethics panel in an effort to force the committee to dismiss the complaint against him.

The movement claims to be Evangelical and pro-family values -- I don't need to reiterate that's have 3 marriages that have 'overlapped' on two occasions while his former wife was sick an illness (cancer/tumor and MS).

The movement claims to be pro-free market capitalism -- yet, has embraced a candidate who has attacked the core tenants of this in a way that #OWS has failed to. Hell, Michael Moore has commented on his agreement.

The movement claims to desire a leader, unlike SCOAM, who can accomplish things, not just talk about them in nebulous terms -- yet they have have embraced the candidate who almost no-one who previously worked with him wants to support, endorse or acknowledge as being up to the task.

The movement has derided the retards on the left and center for buying into an ephemeral idea of a man with a questionable past, yet one who could articulate well and sell a vision.... and now their doing the same thing.


Ann is 100% correct. As I've been stating, after 6 years of being beaten up over supporting the Bush Administration, after the 2008 election and the vision of Obama; the conservative movement wants blood, not the best outcome. Witness candidates like Christine O'Donnell, Sharon Angle, and Linda McMaghn who were all picked over viable candidates. In the former two, viable centerist candidates who likely would have won.

It has regressed toward more primal desires: I'd rather lose it all than sacrifice anything. Smart policy, Der Fuhrer. That no-retreat-at-any-cost-order worked out splendenly on the Eastern Front, I'm glad you didn't listen to the 'establishment' generals, it's not like they knew more than you...

Simply, the base wants a spectacle.

Are You Not Entertained?
Is This Not Why You Are Here?

104 she like me is scared to death that the republicans little catharsis is going to leave obama the incompetent in the White House for another 4 years.


So basically we're so far down the shitter that Newt is scaring the straights?

105

I have to tell you, O-bah-muhh is a decent person, and a person that you don't have to be afraid of as the president of the United States.

 

106

heh, Teh SARAH!!!! should give ann 'the stick' the same advice she gave the fat man:  'don't get your panties in a wad'

107 Most people aren't persuadable anyway.

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2012 07:33 PM (7W3wI)

More to the point, IMO, those that are persuadable will not be moved by complex arguments. If they considered politics deeply they wouldn't be moderates...

In 2008 Obama won them by claiming I'm just the change *you* want. Whatever that change was.

I think in 2012 a core theme for the Republicans will be similar, but slightly more concrete - do you want 4 more years of stagnation? Unemployment? High energy costs? Then vote Obama.

108 Supporting a shitty candidate that was all but GUARANTEED to lose wasn't stupid? Compared to what? Porcupine juggling? Unfucking believable.

Fine call them stupid. You folks who think Mittens has the nads to do anything to avert or reverse our course are equally stupid. And voting for someone guaranteed to kick the can down the road is stupid stupid stupid.

109 For such an important election, you would think that the right would be more focused - have their thoughts more collected.  Less than a week ago, the very same people who were lambasting Newt and Perry and anyone who supported them as anti-capitalists are now kicking Romney in the nads - repeatedly - for tax returns and off shore accounts. In a minute and a half, Newt took his conduct, the same conduct that the right couldn't stomach in Clinton, and  through an outburst of righteous indignation, managed to draw a standing ovation from the whole of the right. Too bad when Clinton used the same tactic to say "I did not have sex...," that it didn't work as well.  I agree to a point, that it was a shitty gotcha question, but my belief is that there are a number of people who still harbor a bit of disgust at Newt's treatment of those who trusted him.  Newt taunted Romney into releasing his taxes. Why? So that we could learn that he is a rich, successful capitalist?  What, do we hate rich successful capitalists this week? Newt was reprimanded by congress for unethical conduct. What did he do?  What other things are likely to come out in the general election campaign that could guarantee the election for Obama? Full disclosure, I don't support any of them yet. I would consider supporting Newt if he'd come clean on his record. I certainly don't support him now.  Not based on a sound bite. 

110 Is it too late to nominate Carl Paladino? He'd beat up on debate moderators, too. Hell, he'd show up for debates with a baseball bat over his shoulder.

111 Newt was never popular. He's always had high negatives, yet he won elections. The exit polling in South Carolina showed that he beat Romney in every single demographic, including women and married women.

I think you far overstate his negatives currently, but by November of this year the entire nation is going to be screaming for mercy from Obamanomics.

Posted by: Llarry at January 23, 2012 07:35 PM (Rnfm0)

The only election Newt has ever won in his entire life was for a safe congressional district in a red state. Saying Newt wins elections is like saying Maxine Waters wins elections. He has never won a statewide election other than one republican primary in a red state.

112 I sometimes listen to Fat Rush- and also to Mark 'High Pitch Spermy Voice' Levin.

I am still pro-Constitution.

113 steevy:
Most people aren't persuadable anyway.Ever tried to persuade a liberal?Even thoughtful ones are almost impossible to move off their positions.

I used to be a left-winger.  I changed, due to persuasive arguments and evidence.  It took time.

We don't need to persuade "most" people.  Honestly, just a few percent would make a huge difference.

114 Simply, the base wants a spectacle.
Are You Not Entertained?
Is This Not Why You Are Here?

Perfect.

115

When I was in high school, I had a part-time job as a dishwasher. I hated it, of course. But my mom made me get one, and I liked the paycheck.

About that. When I was in the sixth grade, I got lunches free if I swept and mopped the cafeteria, which I did. I thought nothing bad of it then and still don't today.

116 Amen sister.

117 When Bill Maher is one of your friends, some of his ideas are going to rub off.

118 The attitude of contempt toward work is perfectly understandable in a country where teachers tell the children to go to college and get a white-collar job because "You wouldn't want to get your hands dirty, would you?"

Posted by: creeper at January 23, 2012 07:40 PM (gre5a)

--------or where a presidential contender Kerry tells them to go to college or they'll end up in the military.

119 Why no hash on #16?

120 What kind of judge would Newt put up for Supreme Court?

What kind of judge would Mitt put up for Supreme Court?

Which of those questions leaves you the most uneasy?

121 dede scozzafava. really newt?

122 To me lately coulter and christie are 1 and 1a.  But a caller to levin just alerted levin to the reason why christie wasn't in florida today campaigning for mittens, he was too busy nominating:  "Gov. Christie nominates two for state Supreme Court, including gay African-American mayor"

The caller was this blogger who promised to find out more about the background of the nominees.

123
They are depleting their savings and selling family heirlooms at auction





Oh you peasants will love the fiscal flying circus of my tax returns.  Here's a quarter so you can watch the news on a bus station TV.

Posted by: Mitt Romney

124 yeah the dede scozzava thing was really pretty bad.

125 @115: Right, and Newt can be counted on to savage Paul Ryan as a Rightwing Social Engineer. And, of course, let's not forget that after Obama won in 2008, Newt sought to "catch the wave" by declaring "the Age of Reagan is over." The Pelosi GW Love Commercial followed. Smart, smart, SMART!!

126 #129....link for christie article.

link to blogger

127 Who is this Laura?  Methinks she is smart.  More posts please.

128 Mark 'High Pitch Spermy Voice' Levin is a big time AIPAC asshole.

for real.

129 There is intrinsic dignity to doing honest work. My guess is that the alumni who would actually be willing to donate feel the same way, which is part of why the ad threw me for a loop. (I hate to keep pushing “go to my web site”, but seriously, you have to see the ad to believe it.)

130 Simply, the base wants a spectacle. Are You Not Entertained?Is This Not Why You Are Here?

Perfect.

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2012 07:42 PM (6TB1Z)

Yelling at voters is never productive.  If your candidate isn't catching fire, it's because he sucks.

131 I seriously never say things like this. But I'm going to make an exception. Coulter needs to get laid.

132 I also like Newt's comments about work, and it really disappoints me that Romney hasn't made an equally strong case for investing throughout life so that one can retire at a 15% tax rate on income from qualified dividends and long-term capital gains. I'm serious about this. CNBC's Jim Cramer on his "Mad Money" program basis a lot of his investing advice on buying and holding stocks, like Caterpillar, that pay good dividends. If people save and invest wisely, they too can gain a good deal of their retirement income from dividends and (hopefully) price appreciation of the underlying stock, which when held over a year when sold, will have the long-term gain taxed at 15%. Even the tax code on dividends favors holding stocks a long time, as dividends on stocks held a short time are taxed at normal income rates, but dividends of stocks held longer "qualify" for a lower rate of 5% - 15%, depending on other income. And what about people with Roth IRAs, where contributions are made with income already taxed, but withdrawals are tax-free. If I were to save my money in a Roth IRA then retire at 60, start taking money from it and run for office at 62, would I see attack ads saying that I paid ZERO TAXES on that income? That's one of the things that's bugging me about Romney. He's not making a case for there to be MORE people like him.

133 What people want is a change from the dumbfuck running the joint right now.  Even some lefties want this.  Everybody here has to continue to evangelize to folks you meet.  There are many folks out of touch but appear receptive to the right message because they too realize Opie is a completely fuck up.

134 "Why no hash on #16?"

Because Yoshi's the reason we can't have formatting anymore.

135
Christie nominates two for state Supreme Court, including gay African-American mayor"





Should have just said Christie appoints guaranteed Obama supporter to Court.

136 138 I seriously never say things like this. But I'm going to make an exception. Coulter needs to get laid.

Posted by: Nora at January 23, 2012 07:46 PM (VxqUc)

Oh I thought it was menopause.

137

love your hump, lauraw

...too bad you have such good teeth or I would have thrown you a genuine montuckey mating call of,  'Show us your Tooth!'.

138 99 @75- Supporting a shitty candidate that was all but GUARANTEED to lose wasn't stupid? Compared to what? Porcupine juggling? Unfucking believable.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 07:38 PM (X3vSL)

At least those shitty candidates were espousing some principles that their base constituency was looking for. I question who is stupider? The base voting their principles, or the establishment pushing candidates that the base can't vote for, at a time when the base is in ascendancy no less?

139 Clarence: Are you okay, man?

140

<<<<I said some time ago that Romney would have a harder time in the primary than in the general. I stand by that.>>>>....

 

 

Gee maybe he should have realized that and not been looking past the primaries and already running for the general elections.

141 If the people aren't persuadable, why do the polls shift so quickly? I know, it's just random noise. Folks just close their eyes and vote. Yeah, that's what happens. Dartboard politics.
 
Sorry, that dog won't hunt.

142 Comments question: how are people getting multiple paragraphs? I see some people are doing it, but most are getting run-on paragraphs. Mine seem to all get run together, which makes quoting someone else (sandy burger) somewhat problematic.

143 What happened to my paragraph breaks in the post on Newt, Romney, work and IRAs?

144 Coulter has written a few snarky books. But when it comes to electoral politics she is clueless. She supported Hillary, a nobody in Connecticut, Christie. Another Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker. Avoid her.

145 Hey why did everyone change from SCOAMF to SCOAMT?

146 Tell it like it is Laura!!

147

I believe the likability numbers are BS.  Supposedly Obama's likability is very high.  He's a pompous, aloof, race-baiting, monarch jetting around the world on our dime, a pedantic stuttering goof.  He wants to change America which shows he doesn't like what America is and has been.  He has presided over a lousy economy for more than three years and he can't accept responsibility.  These aren't things that make someone likable to anyone but sycophants.

Newt isn't a warm and fuzzy type.  I know that.  He's an intellectual with a lot of personal baggage.  I do believe he loves and believes in the greatness of our country.  Even if people don't personally like him I believe they will vote for him if they think he is the best man to turn this country around.  That extends to the conservatives and the folks in the middle.  People have given up on Obama and the Democrats to do that.

I think people want a hard ass like Newt and he will have a Republican House and Senate to boot.  If my scenario works we could be in for great things in this country.  Does anyone expect great things from Romney?  I don't.

148

Heh. You know I've got to say that whatever else may come of this, I may not have finished internalizing it yet and I'm not perfect, but I think I learned a fundemental lesson of rhetoric.

Thanks for a wonderful What-Not-To-Do, How To Lose Friends And Alienate People, you 2012 GOP Presidential Nomination candidates.

149

"hunchbacked, three large teeth that don't meet anywhere"

This thread is worthless without pix.

And you must think we're too dumb to notice you didn't mention your elbows.

150 Pixy is working on the problem. There was a malicious whoosie somewhere. Ace stripped out the HTML hamster and we're waiting for Pixy to put a paperclip in it.

Sorry for all the tech jargon.

151

138   Coulter needs to get laid.

since i'm a giver, what the hell, i'll do it

if i break her boney ass hips by accident, oh well

152 Well I tried twice to put in links and couldn't do it.
the article about the justice nominations is from new jersey dot com
and the blogger is bulldog pundit dot com

153 "Comments question: how are people getting multiple paragraphs?"

You have to add the carriage returns in the comment tool yourself. You can't rely on carrying them over from what you quote.

Assuming, of course, this post works.

154

and while businesses struggle, Kobe Bryant and Warren Buffet are sitting untouchable. The dems don't want to tax the ultra wealthy. No - 250K+ you are fucked. That's how you destroy business in America.

 

155 "Capitalism is evil"

- Newt Gingrich



good pics guys!  That'll show Baracky the idiot!  Make commercials FOR him.  Newt, you remember that you're a republican?

I cannot believe anyone is for this jerk.  Gingrich?  evil rich people

156 Oh and thanks a lot idiots for not listening to ace months ago about not sticking html in your sigs.

157 Newt appeals to lots of people - not just conservative Republicans - who recognize that this country has gone wrong in part because our politicians refuse to state the truth about work, racism (or the relative lack thereof), Obama's incompetence, and lots of other things.  All the liberal Emperors are running around naked and Newt seems to be the only candidate with the ability to say, clearly and with conviction, that they have no clothes.  And while Mitt seems to think that the correct response to three years of naked Emperors is to promise that he and his team of highly trained technicians promise to wear clothes while in office, Newt goes to the heart of the matter - the first thing to do is to bluntly and forcefully challenge  the prevailing mindset of those who purport to speak for America (Dems and the media, birm) and who have been politely discussing the latest fashions worn by this Administration. 

158 Mark Levin is some type of strange gay-fag.   He has a strange-ass cult following him.

Me?  I want to tell Paul Ryan to move his cuts up nine years.  The GOP doesn't have the balls to comply. 

159

Know what else is for real?

Sperm on my face! I love it when liberal nancy boys blow their wad on me!

I'm starring in gay bukkake festivals on MegaPorn, if you're interested.

160 What happened to my paragraph breaks in the post on Newt, Romney, work and IRAs?

ATF sold them to Mexican drug cartels.

161 38 The democrat party is that rot.The democrats arethe party that now promises to take one persons hard work and hand it to someone who doesn't do shit. All in the name "fairness". All without a budget!

Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 07:21 PM (O7ksG)

====

Someday someone is going to explain to me how that is different than slavery.  Oh, I get that the open air slave auctions are gone, and I know that selling family members to separate owners is gone, too.

But, isn't the rest of slavery still comprised of confiscating what one person produces for the benefit of another?  How in hell did we ever let those assholes start calling that "fairness?"

162 Oh, and while I'm thinking about it -- don't use the HTML tool. The HTML appears to all be disabled right now, so your post will get screwed up somethin' awful.

163 @115- Romney sucks. I get it. I agree. But then, so does Newt. The main difference is that there's practically no chance that Newt will change anything for the better, because he'd have to beat Obama first. Which he won't. I have no interest in "going down fighting". There's winning or losing. There's no in between.

164 And Soona, grow up.

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2012 07:39 PM (6TB1Z)............................ You and some of the other commenters are lacking wisdom and/or not observant enough to see what's going on around you.  Don't blame me that you're operating with your eye ansd ears closed.

What you don't remember as I'm sure you were far from being born yet, is that people were making the same poo-pooing remarks about Reagan in '79 and '80.  But we had Carter as the president.  Need I go on? 

165 Posted by: lauraw


Can I have that hamster?

166 Stephen Price-Blair: Comments question: how are people getting multiple paragraphs?

Ace is cutting back on paragraph breaks, it's a recession.

Hah, more seriously, all formatting is down. If you look over comments, there is no Bold or Italics. My post looked nothing like that either.

167 "144 love your hump, lauraw" Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2012 07:48 PM (OWXM2) I prefer to think of it as her third breasticle.

168 I wont fight with fellow conservatives,if the majority wants Newt fine.I'll support him.

169 I still fear Newt is going to be an never ending October surprice and that he won't attract anything but the hard core right base. I've always considered Ann Coulter to be pretty hard core on the right. So her belief that Romney could win should not be discounted. IMO.

170 Really?

Okay.

171

Sorry for all the tech jargon.

Just keep rubbing the pudding on that hump and you get as technical as you wantwith your jargon.

172 Ah, well, that didnÂ’t work. Carry on.

173 Libtards hate Newt with great passion...they seem to hate him more than they hated Sarah. Just watching all their heads explode at the mere thought of, "President Newt," is truly a pleasure.

174 "Oh and thanks a lot idiots for not listening to ace months ago about not sticking html in your sigs."

I'm going to blame the webmaster for that one. It's a great way to screw with the blog, and the only reason it hadn't happened before now is because none of the trolls had taken the time to figure it out.

175 171 This.

176

Ann Coulter was entertaining before the conservative blogosphere exploded around 2003 and talk radio was undisputed king of conservative media.

Now I can get better analysis and wittier commentary on any of a dozen sites, daily.

Ann, if you're not entertaining us, informing us or showing us your titties, you're useless.  Much like our resident dipshit Asperger's shut-in catlady, "curious."

177 Everytime Clarence posts a stupid comment, an angel gets his wings!

178 Uriah Heep: You are taunting me with your paragraph breaks!

179 PPP Florida: Newt 38, Romney 33, Santorum 13, Luap Nor 10

180 I just want to see if Newt takes Brian Williams apart tonight.

181 http://tinyurl.com/7bgqc48

link to ppp poll

182 If Ann Coulter is pretty hard core right, why was she so hot and heavy for Chris Christie?

183 What about Santorum?

184 175 "144 love your hump, lauraw" Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2012 07:48 PM (OWXM2) I prefer to think of it as her third breasticle.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 07:52 PM (niZvt) ------------------------ The one on the back is for dancing.

185 164: Newt appeals to very in this country according to the polling -- which is the best data we have to go on. His favorable numbers are deeply underwater when you move from the [conservative] --> [registered voter] population.

I'm talking 30+ points underwater at times.

186 Yep, used to be a Coulter fan but am now reevaluating. Not a Newt fan, but her Mitt shtick is revolting. Same with her pathetic Christie worship.

187 I still fear Newt isgoing to be an never ending October surprice and that he won'tattract anything but the hard core right base. I've always considered Ann Coulter to be pretty hard core on the right. So her belief that Romney could win should not be discounted. IMO. Posted by: whatever at January 23, 2012 07:52 PM (O7ksG) Maybe, maybe but the way to try to inoculate against that is to release everything that could ever possibly hurt either Newt of Romney and let the chips fall where they may. And then no matter who are nominee is, come September they should be no nasty surprises

188 This has gotten pathetic.... My twitter feed is nothing but projection of who Newt is... no common sense just he is the next Reagan shit. First it was Palin.. then Cain.. now, its Newt. Forget that the rest of the country hates Newt... On the other hand... Ann Coulter going after the base. Stupid party.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 23, 2012 07:51 PM (qjUnn)

You are going to a 140 character limit instant quip site for cogent political analysis?

Good luck son.

189

 "hunchbacked, three large teeth that don't meet anywhere"

Strangely enough, that's simultaneously replusive and arousing. 

190

Ann, if you're not entertaining us, informing us or showing us your titties

 

--/+/-- I'd imagine those look like fried eggs.

191 My dad worked a 70hr/wk job for less than he could get from the dole during the depression. He was educated for the time, HS diploma w/honors. But he was proud that he had a job. He was drafted at age 30 with 2 kids. The Army gave him a chance to learn a trade - electronics. Things got better after that, but not much. See, mom was so distraught over losing her husband to the war that she swore to God she would never practice birth control again. 5 more of us were born. My oldest sister thinks it's a cute story, but I think she's just envious about the life she could have had. I was the 6th out of 7, and I don't think it's cute - I think it's a miracle. Dad lost his good job just before I was born. TV was just becoming the big thing, and he would pick up a few bucks repairing TV's on the side in other's peoples' houses. I was his little buddy, and he would often take me along. I'll never forget how my dad showed me how to do whatever it takes to get along. I have tried to pass this along to my own. So far, so good, and again thank god.

192 Regardless who wins this primary, I'm voting for the American for President!

193 Anyway, Life’s too important to ask “Do you want fries with that?”: http://hoboes.com/fries

194 192 175 "144 love your hump, lauraw" Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2012 07:48 PM (OWXM2) I prefer to think of it as her third breasticle. Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 07:52 PM (niZvt) ------------------------ The one on the back is for dancing. Posted by: Al Bundy at January 23, 2012 07:54 PM (GULKT) Backup headlight.

195 The Pelosi GW Love Commercial followed. Smart, smart, SMART!!

The problem is that folks have gotten candidate derangement syndrome. I think this comes from the fact that two things have to exist in order for this nation to continue and for this whole exercise to even matter.

1. We to win the election.
2. The guy who we win with has to be real leader. Not necessarily Reagan, but damn close.

Because these things *have* to exist in order for the exercise to be meaningful, and, because neither one is apparent, folks simply assume those qualities exist in one of the candidates, as to make their efforts meaningful.

As far as I can see those things don't exist, we are DOOMED, the candidates suck; even if we could win, they wouldn't do anything but maybe buy a year or so. So I simply don't like the folks calling other folks stupid because they are harboring *different* delusions about electability or candidate quality.

At this point the only realistic way to approach this election is in a "it probably won't but just in case it matters" sort of way. If you aren't ready to adopt a fatalistic view, I understand, but continuing to believe that this will all work out some how, will lead you to make assumptions and believe things that aren't true.

196

I'd imagine those look like fried eggs.<<<<

 

Any whore in a storm.  Just like Grandpa used to say.

197 Nailed it. Gingrich will win probably ninety-five to one hundred percent of conservative voters. And precisely no one else.
Every poll says they/we are the majority...only the media/rinos want you to believe you HAVE to get the moderate squishes...romney's base

198 I used to like Ann Coulter.

199 If Newt isn't right for President, can he be pointed to the post of Press Secretary.  Think of the possibilities.

200 NYT: Romney's economic adviser Mankiw urges gas tax 'exceeding' $2 a gallon to help fight 'global climate change'  Harvard Prof. Mankiw: 'Driving your car is associated with various adverse side effects...these include traffic congestion, accidents, local pollution and global climate change. If the tax on gasoline were higher, people would alter their behavior to drive less...Economists who have added up all the externalities associated with driving conclude that a tax exceeding $2 a gallon makes sense'

201 Test

Another test

202 Only thing Coulter did wrong was speak her mind as "proxy" for Romney. Other then that, she's absolutely right. You don't think a lot of the GOP electorate is pretty much a bunch of fuck'n idiots? Read the comment section on most conservative blogs.

203 Newt is popular because people are frustrated with the status quo and he's not afraid to upset the apple cart.

That's why I think/hope he will choose Allen West for VP. It's the perfect, thumb-in-the-eye pick and like Newt, West will throw the msm/establishment premises right back in their faces.

That's the only way to beat Obama, to knock him off his game. You can't be afraid to go right at him.

204 Mark Levin = High Pitch Spermy Voice!

Is there any doubt?

205 185 Everytime Clarence posts a stupid comment, an angel gets his wings!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 07:54 PM (niZvt)

Wow, that's gotta be more angels than you could fit on the head of a pin!

206 Appointed appointed appointed appointed appointed.  Dammit.

207 You don't think a lot of the GOP electorate is pretty much a bunch of fuck'n idiots? Read the comment section on most conservative blogs. Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2012 07:58 PM (GZitp) Head and shoulders above your typical liberal blog

208 * Gives Lauraw a big wet kiss on the Hump for this post..

209 So Coulter is the same as Ace?  He also blames the electorate

210 Gingrich completely defused Romney's Fannie and freddie thing before the debate. Smarter campaign than Romney's

211 Ewww. Thanks for the fried eggs image.

/heads off in search of more topless Brooklyn Decker pics

212 Ann, if you're not entertaining us, informing us or showing us your titties --/+/-- I'd imagine those look like fried eggs.

Tits or GTFO? I guess we really have fallen as a political movement.

213

Coulter, Bill Maher, deserving of uber ridicule for this alone - enough said.

Oh, and Ann, you're not as hot as you think you are.  Go sprew your scrawny-assed, high-brow northeastern moderate criticisms to your dinner party fan-boys.  Morning Joe has a seat waiting for you.  Don't let the southern screen door hit your 10 year old looking skinny ass on the way out.

214 @211 Good evening. Fuck off.

215 190 If Ann Coulter is pretty hard core right, why was she so hot and heavy for Chris Christie?

Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 07:54 PM (rv9tS)

Why was she so hot & heavy for Bill Maher?

216 So if mittens is the only one that can beat ofuckstick and ofuckstick would decimate nootsters then why can't mitens beat the nootser....

217 "Every poll says they/we are the majority..."

40% is not a majority.

Also, keep in mind that the polls are based on self-description. I know a few liberals who claim to be moderate, because the media tells them so.

218 If Newt isn't right for President, can he be pointed to the post of Press Secretary. Think of the possibilities.

Yeah that's a pretty big demotion for a former speaker.

219 @145- That ascendant base chose a self-proclaimed "bearded Marxist" instead of a RINO who voted against Obamacare. The only message they sent to "the establishment" is that they'd rather be represented by liberals. Stupid doesn't even begin to cover it.

220 196 This has gotten pathetic.... My twitter feed is nothing but projection of who Newt is... no common sense just he is the next Reagan shit. First it was Palin.. then Cain.. now, its Newt. Forget that the rest of the country hates Newt... On the other hand... Ann Coulter going after the base. Stupid party. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at January 23, 2012 07:51 PM (qjUnn) You are going to a 140 character limit instant quip site for cogent political analysis?Good luck son. Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2012 07:55 PM (z1N6a). Jumbo is a gal, and you would ply her with complements in forelorn hope of access to her female charms, to no avail.

221

I mean, a semen coated throat restricts air flow and naturally increases the pitch. At the gay bars they call me cockwhistle!

222 Dana Loesch is all in for Newt on Twitter.She's hawt.

223 All the liberal Emperors are running around naked and Newt seems to be the only candidate with the ability to say, clearly and with conviction, that they have no clothes. And while Mitt seems to think that the correct response to three years of naked Emperors is to promise that he and his team of highly trained technicians promise to wear clothes while in office, Newt goes to the heart of the matter - the first thing to do is to bluntly and forcefully challenge the prevailing mindset of those who purport to speak for America


Excellent analysis.  It is not a small thing to state what is real.  Newt, whatever his flaws and there are many, is the only one at the moment saying to voters what Reagan said many years ago: "Don't be afraid to see what you see."

The people have lost confidence in their own eyes.  The MFM lies to them on a daily basis, political correctness constrains the truths we tell each other.  Neighbor A is afraid to tell Neighbor B what he really thinks of Obama for fear of seeming to be a bigot.  It is a self-imposed conspiracy of silence, a mutually agreed upon pact of "see no evil, speak no evil."

Newt is standing up and saying 'I see it. And I'm calling you out on it. '

At some point a domino effect will begin to happen and there will be a tipping point when men and women will no longer be silent about what they see.  At least this is my fervent wish.  To the extent that Newt contributes to the dominoes beginning to fall against the MFM and Obama, I applaud him and support him.

I don't see Mitt doing anything to tip the dominoes. 

224 Just checked. Yep, Romney still sux.

225 Every poll says they/we are the majority...only the media/rinos want you to believe you HAVE to get the moderate squishes...romney's base
------------

We are the [largest catagory] when you consider [Left], [Right], . When a candidate like Newt has a 30+ points disapproval, that polarization manifests in the fraction [Left+Center] >> [Right+Center]. We lose big.

226 Vie is there no live blogging of der Furher's brilliance in tonight's debate?

227 Its not hard to figure out the reaction to various elections and candidates.

Deep down most people (who aren't mindless leftists) are terrified that President Obama is going to win reelection. They are so consumed by this fear and the certainty of its consequences that they are fearful that one candidate or another is the only possible hope to in and if they fail we're all doomed. So when their guy is defeated, they freak out and respond out of fear, not reason.

Its the fearbiter response the left was using in the Bush administration; they were absolutely certain that president Bush was every bit as completely evil as the idiotic extremists were screaming, and they flailed around in nearly insane terror constantly.

President Obama is easy to beat. he sucks as a candidate, we'd be aghast if he was the guy we were hoping to win. He polls teerribly even with Democrats, he can't win most of the states he took away from Republicans last time, he has nothing whatsoever going for him that he did last time except a sycophantic press, but now people dislike him and fear his policies. And last time he only won 43% of the vote.

Unless something significant changes, Obama is doomed. Calm down everyone.

228 then why can't mitens beat the nootser....

Cause of those damn tea party hobbitses...

229

If Newt is the nominee, and of course I will do everything I can to support him if he is, I'm quite certain we will all be in mortal shock this November.  If you have followed Newt's career you know there is a 90% chance he will make a monumental, election altering gaffe before E-Day.  He will be baited by the media, and they will crucify him when he makes any assertion that they can twist.

This will end........badly.

230 Coulter lost it when she let her chubby-chasing become her politics.  She hasn't said a relevant thing since her inane attempts to get Christie in the race.

231 We hates you Bilbo Baggins!

We hates you forever!

232 At this point the only realistic way to approach this election is in a "it probably won't but just in case it matters" sort of way. If you aren't ready to adopt a fatalistic view, I understand, but continuing to believe that this will all work out some how, will lead you to make assumptions and believe things that aren't true.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 23, 2012 07:56 PM (0q2P7)

Welcome Aboard!

233 I have a crush on Dana Loesch.  A throbbing, turgid crush.

234 Anyone know if there is liveblogging going on during the debate tonight? I've had a miserable day, looking forward to uncorking 3 bottles of Merlot. Oh, and I early voted too! Yay me.

235 211 Only thing Coulter did wrong was speak her mind as "proxy" for Romney. Other then that, she's absolutely right. You don't think a lot of the GOP electorate is pretty much a bunch of fuck'n idiots? Read the comment section on most conservative blogs.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2012 07:58 PM (GZitp)

Kettle/black much?

236 LauraW,

Thank you!  Thank you!  Thank You!

237 Dana Loesch is Spermable - I must admit.  I would plaster a load on that bitch's mug for sure.

You see?  We can all get along!

238 I have sat around my mother's house talking to her and one of my younger brothers.  They are both Dems.  They can't stand Romney.  But they are listening to Gingrich and are willing to listen more.  Gingrich was unable to get over his past problems while the MSM ran the whole show on what people got as their news.  The media treated Newt like shit.  And his thoughtful answers to questions were boiled down to the worst three second clips the media could find, interposed with pictures of someone else demonizing him.  He is taking steps to ensure that this won't happen in the general election.  As he himself has said, his campaign is based on the things he can do in an Internet age that his consultants weren't ready for.  Hell, even the posters on this website spend a lot of time misrepresenting what he said about Paul Ryan's plan - a few get it right, but damn few.  If Gingrich succeeds in what he is trying to do, voters are going to tune in and listen to him for extended periods of time (except for the h8ers).  And then, when Obama and Axelrod and Stephanopolous and Sawyer and all the others paint Newt as the devil, there will be enough sensible voters who will, finally and perhaps forever, tune that group out.

Well, a guy can dream, can't he?

239 Those of you who are running huge, long paragraphs but not deliberately, the line break tag that works is the HTML br tag (less than symbol, BR, greater than symbol).

No slash.

Of course, if youÂ’re in the 99% using Firefox or IE, you can use the HTML editor thingie.

240 We are the [largest catagory] when you consider [Left], [Right], . When a candidate like Newt has a 30+ points disapproval, that polarization manifests in the fraction [Left+Center] >> [Right+Center]. I get the feeling you shouldn't have said that.

241 Get your toys back on the carpet Clarence!

242 Hey Ann, if you're mad at my stoopid, you know what works really good on me?
The Silent Treatment.
Try it.
It might take a while, be patient.

243 Is the debate on tv, can't find it.

244

Let Coulter shoot off her mouth.  Never bought her books and never would.  Like the Dixie Chicks she has a negative IQ.  Like the Chicks she will destroy what career she has.  Speaking of stupid, Sean Hannity.  When are you going to get some new guests?  The old ones are getting boring....zzz.

 

245 Is the debate on tv, can't find it. Posted by: Dave at January 23, 2012 08:07 PM (HPcQF) 9 PM EST on NBC You'll know it's NBC by the fact nobody is watching

246 We are the [largest catagory] when you consider [Left], [Right], . When a candidate like Newt has a 30+ points disapproval, that polarization manifests in the fraction [Left+Center] >> [Right+Center]. We lose big.

 

There will always be 30% disapproval of any of our candidates.  The 30% are the hardcore left.  The Barkytrons.  We'll never win that faction.  But we can beat 'em with the rest of the population.

247 Yeah that's a pretty big demotion for a former speaker.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose

Lighten up Mike, it's a joke.

248 the line break tag that works is the HTML br tag (less than symbol, BR, greater than symbol).


I can't find the BR key.

249 Is the debate on tv, can't find it. ******************************************************************************** NBC-"Rock Center With Brian Williams"-if you are on the West Coast they are actually not going to show it live-it looks like. 9:00 pm.

250 Test
test

251 I'm tired of Ann Coulter's shctick. She's soooooo smart she insults the demographic who buys her books. She's got an unhealthy obsession with Chris Christie that she seems to have transferred over to Mitt Romney. Note for Ann--wonder why you're still single? What man would want to put up with being on your bad side?

252 I hope Ace gets this shit fixed and throws the banhammer and shit pies at whoever fucked up the blog format.  Gotta go to work now.

253 Yeah that's a pretty big demotion for a former speaker.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose

Lighten up Mike, it's a joke.

Hey, I'm available...

254

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2012 08:08 PM (cqLNL)

He doesn't have a 30% disapproval. He has a 29% favorblity rating vs. a 56% unfavorablity rating.

The 30% roughly is how much he is underwater.

255 >>>>>If Newt is the nominee, and of course I will do everything I can to support him if he is, I'm quite certain we will all be in mortal shock this November.>>>>>

People who are out of work, paying all their money for gas, heating oil, and food are going to refuse to vote for Newt because he makes a gaffe? They'll say, "You know what? I don't have any money and I've been out of work for four years, but I'm going to give Obama a second chance, because Newt said something I don't like."

256

Laura,

You should post more, really!

Much thanks for the chuckles.

257 Recall the Harriet Miers thing.  Anne, for all her gifts, is an elitist.

258

Sorry, no. IIRC, even that question was posed in that self-satisfied "don't you see that?" format that presupposes that the point is correct and that the person being questioned "just doesn't get it". The answer was all about saying F-U to that crap.

Personally, I'm disappointed that no pundit I know of has replied to the "insulting to blacks" suggestion by pointing out that the question is insulting to janitors. Note that janitors - who do actual, and unambiguously useful, work - are dismissed as somehow being worthy of insults by the elitists of the left. They're not in some protected victimhood class.

259 ...but I'm going to give Obama a second chance, because Newt said something I don't like."

It could happen.

260 but I'm going to give Obama a second chance, because Newt said something I don't like." It could happen. Posted by: Jennifer Rubin at January 23, 2012 08:12 PM (HtUdo) When pigs fly

261 Around 2004-5 Coulter pulled the rug from under her mostly conservative base on her forum and replaced her online staff with more liberal-leaning stalwarts. So I've had my "Brooks, Frum, Friedman" doubts about that scrunt since then. She's not a conservative, she's a player.
Oh, and pies for sale over here!

262 Hey, I'm available...
Posted by: Denny Hastert

I stand corrected.  That's a joke.

263

Ugh, getting a delayed Hannity interview with Newt.

Switching back over to country.

264 269 His alternate history WW2 book.I don't know how much Newt is responsible for as oppposed to his coauthor.Probablyt Newt just wrote an outline.

265 I will vote for either one.
But anyone who thinks either one is going to have cakewalk in the general election is kidding themselves.

266 Thanks so much Laura for this post.  It is amazing to me that conservatives now appear to think that hurling insults at the voters is the way to win hearts and minds.

267 I think Coulter actually embodies a bit of the reason why there is enough evidence for ace to talk about a backlash against elitists.  She is an elitist.  Yeah when she's bashing liberals its nice and she pisses them off.  But for her politics within the circle of conservatism she leaves a lot to  be desired.  And along with that I can't help but think she'd much rather hang out with all those liberals she bashes rather than the people that buy her books.  Probably would rather hang out with them over conservatives that would be on her "level" too.

268 I'd love to have Newt elected. I love his fire( he and Coulter and Christie are cut from the same cloth ), and I wish Mitt had some fire, nevertheless I don't think Newt can win. We don't need another Palladino, Goldwater, Angle, COD.

269   211 Only thing Coulter did wrong was speak her mind as "proxy" for Romney. Other then that, she's absolutely right. You don't think a lot of the GOP electorate is pretty much a bunch of fuck'n idiots? Read the comment section on most conservative blogs.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 23, 2012 07:58 PM (GZitp)

 

Coulter's so skinny she only has two sides, and both are conceited bitches.

270 Wait...watching MSNBC and they were just bitching about-during Vietnam at Stanford Mitt protested the protesters ! Ha! This actually makes me like Mitt!

271 We don't need another Palladino, Goldwater, Angle, COD.

I agree, we need more Doles and McCains.

272

tasker,

are they going to show the debate on MSNBC?

273

What sex stuff. I've read their books,  it's Newt and Bill Forstchen, neither of whom wrote bizarre sex stuff. Unless maybe your version of "bizarre" and mine differ.

274

This is a true story. Not special, but  true. One of my clients is from Michigan and he knows the entire Romney family. Anyway, he was invited to a local fund raiser for Romney at someone's big beautiful mansion in Denver. (this was a few years back) Romney walked into this large home and said "you know, democrats would see this beautiful house and say.. "nobody should live like this". Republicans would say... "everyone should live like this.""

275 Some solid video compilation of Newt from Verum Serum

http://tinyurl.com/7crar4t

276 Wait...watching MSNBC and they were just bitching about-during Vietnam at Stanford Mitt protested the protesters ! Ha! This actually makes me like Mitt! Posted by: tasker at January 23, 2012 08:16 PM (r2PLg) They are going back to Vietnam on Romney but still don't give a rat's ass that obama sat in a racist 'Church" for 20 years?

277 @237 Christopher- You're wishcasting

As the incumbent, Obama is the fronteunner regardless of who we nominate. He has the biggest soapbox, and will be swimming in money.

Like it or not, most people don't harbor the same disdain for Obama that we do.

278 tasker, are they going to show the debate on MSNBC? Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 08:17 PM (MtwBb) If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, did it really fall?

279

The conservative base is angry. We hate the SCOAMF, his band of Merry Marxists and what they're doing to our country (with the help of the MFM) with the white-hot heat of a thousand suns.

If Newt can tap into .0000001% of that hate like he did in the last debate, that will resonate with the country and those of us who are currently working for less than we made on UE, or for about 1/5^th of what we were making just a couple of years ago (I'm both) will unite behind Newt.

It. Is. Time. For. This. Shit. To. Stop.

280

I live on the WC, it is delayed 3 hours here.

281 At the end of the day, Ann Coulter is a top conservative hottie, and her voice is important to the discussion. If you're not on board with this, you're probably gay.

282 I can't spare this man (Gingrich); he fights.  Mutt Rombley OTOH, ....

283 Like it or not, most people don't harbor the same disdain for Obama that we do. Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 08:17 PM


How do you know this to be true?

284 Issues aside, Romney is a terrible candidate.  He doesn't seem interested in voters and can't relate to people outside of his own social circle.  Obama much the same but he has learned to use white guilt to get  a certain type of voter to want to relate with him.  Newt on the other hand is an experienced retail politician.  He started in the 70s with little money but the willingness to chat up every voter in the Congressional district. He thrives on it. Picture this. Romney and Newt's campaign caravan are both stuck in a massive   traffic jam. What would they do?  My quess is Mitt would be looking up alternative routes on the GPS so he'd stay on schedule.  Newt would be walking from car to car shaking hands and talking about infrastructure investment and he'd probably know something about the local area.

It bothers me to no end that the Ivy League pundit class inside the GOP sees this weakness in Romney and insists that it is not a problem.  They seem to think argue that the same consultants who sapped the energy from Bush 41, Dole and McCain campaigns will somehow get  Romney over the top.  I've never watched Mitt in person but I have been at events with the other three and they all came across as less uptight than Romney.    As Jonah Goldberg wrote today “His Al Gore like inability to break through his android shell is really grating on me.”

285

 Llarry at January 23, 2012 08:11 PM

It won't be "something I don't like", it will be probably multiple statements that the press will use to paint him as dangerous, or uncaring.

Look I am as conservative as they come, and I appreciate Newt's candor, but mark my words his candor will allow the MSM to position him as the guy who will take away the "net" saving all of those folks you speak of.  I know we need to wean these people off the dole, but you have to get elected to do that.  I sincerely hope I am wrong, but I'm old enough that I have seen Newt flame-out before.  This guy has a history of major political mis-steps; huge, reckless mistakes.

 

286

First "job" at 12, working at a berry farm for a couple months, paid by the quart for strawberries and the pint for raspberries

at 13, worked the berry farm again, this time worked after picking season working the plants and the rows, culling the dead wood out so next years crop would be plentiful. - 45cents an hour

14, gas station, 18 hrs a week, 67 cents an hour

15, started working part time at an auto parts store/junkyard, 95cents hr

16,17,18 not a lot of work, even part time, spent too much time cutting school and working on my weed smoking skills

18 after quitting school, worked as a truckers helper at a meat packing plant, guaranteed 48 hour week, 11 bucks an hour, worked a month till a sudden death in family ( mother ) then just stopped

19 got a job at a bakery, actually making the donuts, had to get up at 3 to go in, good pay, 10 bucks an hour ( back in 1974 ) quit after 2 months because makin donuts is hard

there followed a period of general malaise and being a hippie that stopped my life in its tracks for a couple years, about 3

23 1978, jimmy carter era, bad time, 35 hours a week for a year, diesel mechanics training and welding school, it was worth it, I can still weld and can still fix almost anything and have a full toolbox at the age of 56

24, due to a wildcat strike, got the best job i ever had, railroad repairman, working in the shop, fixxing track equipment, union job but cushy, railroad closed the shop in 6 years and moved to a right to work state

30 till 39 many and various poor poor paying jobs, went to college associate degree, and had to self pay due to not being a single mother and being white

39 got a job as an engineering contractor at the main local manufacturer, now 56 still working there, but being a contractor means lower wages than I would like and less benefits, but i am not complaining

287

"This is bad. This is real bad. There's an ideological rot in this country, eating away at our vitality and encouraging parasitism and sloth. The only reason Obama has gotten away with implementing his job-killing agenda is because a lot of damn people need to get their heads right. "

You ain't kiddin'. I told the wife that the word was Obama was going to talk about "economic (blank)", and asked her if she could fill in the blank. She never did guess right, because the real answer is over-the-top insane.  It's "economic fairness".

As bad as the employment situation is, while the economy languishes, this guy is actually doubling down.

The really scary thing is that few people seem to now that it's code for "marxist redistribution of wealth." How come Mitt & Newt aren't all over that? Oh, yeah - maybe Newt's not the one to expect that from.

288 19 She did date Keith, after all.

Posted by: Pecos, hates the Long-legged Mack Daddy at January 23, 2012 07:17 PM (2Gb0y)

And Jimmie "J.J." Walker.  Yikes on both counts.

289 Newt is a cagey little troll but he is passionate and incites passion in others, good or bad. Romney incites a yawn. You're not going to bring out the base with yawns.

290 Ann Coulter is WRONG! Gingrich is the conservative candidate BEST SUITED to defeat Barack HUSSEIN Obama in 2012! If you're not behind Newt GINGRICH, you're a liberal DEMONCRAT! NEWT 2012!

291
Coulter on O'Butthead now flacking for Willard!

292 tasker, are they going to show the debate on MSNBC? ************************************************* No-I don't think so-and I'm stuck on the West Coast-it looks like they are going to show that on tape delay...ugh. Maybe online I can catch it? MSNBC is doing a "pre-view" of the debate with Ed Schultz right now-I think I might get sick!

293 The base better show up for either Newt or Romney. I worry about the middle. The freak-show middle who all lined up to vote for Obama last time.

294
Coulter spanking Newt for slammin' liberal media.

295 Oh gad the Ed Schultz thing is a repeat already...

296 And Jimmie "J.J." Walker. Yikes on both counts.


Whachoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

297 Ann is spouting off on O'Reilly right now.  Bitch

298
Coulter's adams apple is bobbin', and that brings into question the size of her dick?

299 Coulter may be right to insult the electorate.  Obama (bitter clingers) has taken that approach, and it was also successful for John Murtha (people in my district are just a bunch of racists).  The world has changed since 2004.

300 robtr supposedly West Coast can watch it live at this link- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ns/politic s-politics/t/nbc-politics/

301
O'Reilly defends Newt from Coulter attack.  The bitch must be menstruating?

302 nbcpolitics.com

303 Ann is freaking the hell out on O'Reilly RIGHT NOW. (7:39PM central) She needs $#@$ing de-caf. I'm kind of scared for her. She sounds like she's afraid that evil Bearded Mr. Spock will ask her for her agonizer as soon as she's off O'reilly's set. She's frantic.

304 Ann is spouting off on O'Reilly right now. Bitch Posted by: jaimo at January 23, 2012 08:26 PM (rv9tS) Yeah which is why I am watching 'Magnum Force" on the Reelz Channel getting warmed up for the debate.

305 Ann's losing her shit on fox right now. Bitch doth protest too much. Romney paid her off

306

Only 288, Count 'Em! 288 days until Election Day.

 

307
Ann's fucking Willard... or something?

308 @293: of course WE will unite behind Newt. But the man has the unfavorables of a turd in the punchbowl at a wedding. How do you plan on overcoming that? The problem with redmeat so raw it's breathing for the base is, it drives away the outside electorate we'll need to appeal to. Wouldn't we all hate to watch Newt start his concession speech in November with, "Well, I TOLD you the Age of Reagan was over!"

309 damn gotta switch to FOX

310 So, is there anything to this?

311

The bitch is insane and should smoke a pole to calm down.

312 @297 mama- Check the polls. No, all the polling companies aren't conspiring to suck up to Obama. The numbers might change, but the prospect of a (very) slowly improving economy could improve his numbers further.

Most voters liked him well enough to vote for him once already. The GOP candidate will have the difficult task of convincing those voters that they were wrong.

313 and it was also successful for John Murtha (people in my district are just a bunch of racists).

Heh.  And then I told them that were idiots, which is why they were racists and bigots.  They loved me!  ... the assholes.

314 Okay, so the links aren't working. Is there anything to this: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/46107604/

315
I got the last word.

I got the last word.

I got the last word.

-Ann Coulter

316 Don't you guys worry that this is a clever democratic strategy and you will see never ending dem pac commercials with our candidates tearing each other apart so that the president can say "hey, I'm not the one saying this, I'm a nice guy, I wouldn't do that, it's them, look what they did to each other, if they aren't loyal to each other and their party, can you trust them to be loyal to you" (close up to cheesy smile)

317 Look, while all the signs point to Newt, we can all agree that Ann is a SUPER HOTTIE. I think she has something important to say, and to not listen is totally gay.

318 We only want the base to show up. The independents aren't good enough. They can go vote for Obama.

319 Ann Coulter sez: " America, Romney WILL be the GOP candidate. He must be. For only HE can beat Obama. (Even though last year at CPAC I totally said he was a terrible liberal candidate and a socialist) When he comes to mount you, you must not send him away. You must lie back and think of Lincoln. "

320 Yes, yes, yes! Well done, Laura; very well done.

321 Coulter was right on O' Reilly. Most people aren't going to buy the Newster attacking the media every time he is asked about his enormus amount of bagage. Sooner or later that are going to want an answer.

322

By Jove, I think I've got it

 

Newt is engaging in class warfare just like Obabble. But it's the working class vs the won't-work class.

 

And, it's working!

323 At the end of the day, Ann Coulter is a top conservative hottie, and her voice is important to the discussion. If you're not on board with this, you're probably gay.

Posted by: Ann, Top HOTTIE Conservative at January 23, 2012 08:19 PM (gj4aA)

*barfs*

324 Hollowpoint: "...most people don't harbor the same disdain for Obama that we do."

Can't argue with that except to say I don't know anyone who holds more disdain than I do for Obama. Guilty as charged. In view of this truth, I'll vote for anyone over the SCoaMT. Anyone. Even Biden. I simply don't care anymore about purity. Let the GOP get as violent against each other as possible. The bloodied victor will get my hearty endorsement and as much money as I can scrape from a diminishing supply. I think more of the nation than not agrees the debacle that is Obamanation is real and will be inspired to vote it out.

And Coulter again goes simply hysterical on O'Reilly tonight. Coulter can go Eff herself. I think I'll go burn her books.

325

The conservative base is angry.

yep. And it's always a great idea to make big decisions during fits of rage.

326

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 08:29 PM (niZvt)

The SCOAMF's negatives are palpable and provable. Newt will point them out (he's already started and slapped Juan Williams pee-pee when he challenged him on it) and get the crowd fired up. Mitt will not: Mitt's already been far too kind to OFuckup.

Newt may be a prick, but he's our prick.

327

328 Fumble fingers

329

O'Reilly defends Newt from Coulter attack. The bitch must be menstruating?
Posted by: Doctor Fish





I assure you, at Coulter's age her fish-tank is empty except for a few handfuls of aquarium gravel.

330 I'd reather have Romney mount me than Noot.

331 "Most voters liked him well enough to vote for him once already. "

I think there were lots of other factors that went in to people voting for Obama last time.  I don't know if "liking him" made the top five.


"The GOP candidate will have the difficult task of convincing those voters that they were wrong."

The fact that people are worse off than they were 3 years ago might also play a part in that.

332 What time is the debate and where? OD

333 Ann Coulter has been a conservative stalwart for many years, and she says Mitt Romney is the best candidate. Who are you to argue? Are you hot? Are you Republican? Do you have 137 papers syndicating your column? No? Then you don't know what you're talking about. ROMNEY 2112!

334 Nice to see we are pulling out all the leftwing talking point attacks on Ann Coulter now. Power to the People! and Down with Capitalism!!

335 "he's already started and slapped Juan Williams pee-pee"

Troglodyte.  You are so clearly not Ivy League material.  We, in the Ivy League, know that a scholar would say, "he's already started and got Juan Williams all wee wee'd up".

And to think that I lower myself to rule over you people ... you illiterates and stuff.

336 "Democrats are claiming Kerry lost because Americans are stupid and if there's one thing voters respond to, it's crude insults."

Hm. You don't say. Well, nobody's perfect.

Democrats are elected officials who need "voters", she's an opinion columnist who needs "readers".

337 Live blogging Debate # 15,248,735,250,221.13

338

Most voters liked him well enough to vote for him once already. The GOP candidate will have the difficult task of convincing those voters that they were wrong.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 23, 2012 08:29 PM (X3vSL)

It should not be that difficult, if we had the right candidate and party leadership; in the mold of William T Sherman or George Patton rather than Prince Reebus and Mutt Rombley.

 

339 Okay after what I just saw on O'reilly, I am calling it: The 'Charles Johnson' ideology inversion virus is REAL. It works. They must have tested it on David Brock first back in the 90's. Then Sullivan, Noonan, Powell, and Frum were turned. They are probably sneaking does of this crap into Lou Dobbs, and Sarah Palin's food even as we speak. All is lost. Pod people...everywhere.

340 ooops that's the national debt the debate number may be higher

341 Mitt will never beat odickwadd...not with the yawner of a campaign he has run so far.....no flippin way. He should clean house and hire some people with some fire. Hate newt all ya want but he at least has some fight in him.

342 While we all appreciate Ann's contribution to the debate, the fact of the matter is, Romney is the FAKE conservative candidate. He's a WASHINGTON INSIDER, and doesn't have his finger on the PULSE of the people. The PEOPLE don't like the SLIMESTREAM MEDIA telling them what to think or what to belive. NEWT GINGRICH knows what it means to be ATTACKED by the LAMESTREAM media. He's got your back. NEWT GINGRICH 2012!

343 Okay, if NBC is claiming issues with Newt's taxes, and NBC is hosting the debate tonight, what are the chances that the question will come up...tonight?

344 Okay, if NBC is claiming issues with Newt's taxes, and NBC is hosting the debate tonight, what are the chances that the question will come up...tonight? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 08:41 PM (piMMO) OK I'll bite, what problems are they claiming?

345 Coulter really pissed me off after the SC primary.  I wanted to chuck the tv out the hotel window after hearing her level 10 screeching at us peasants.  I decided to turn it off instead.  She needs to shut her pie hole.

346

Coulter on O'Reilly a moment ago.

Can you imagine actually being married to this woman?  After having just  conducted such a thought experiment, I can also imagine myself after three weeks in that state saying these words to any random passerby on the street: "Please, I'm begging you... just take my service revolver and shoot me through the head to put me out of my misery."

347 Romney isn't a bombastic pasty old fart. Some of us are scared shitless the man without a plan and high negatives cannot / no way no how/  beat Obama.

348 Helluva post, LauraW!  I suspect you are long gone from the thread, but I am just home from work and read it before anything else.  I saw the clip of Coulter the other day and it made me a little queasy.  You do a very nice take-down here and I want to say that in a LauraW v. Coulter smackdown, I will back your play any day of the week. 

Thanks for this!

349 I've just noticed that NEWT has a MONEY BOMB. 5 MILLION in Florida! Don't get left behind, folks. The NEWTONIAN revolution is here! Can you argue with FIVE MILLION DOLLARS? No, I don't think you can. That's REAL MONEY folks, and NEWT is here to stay!

350 Ann Coulter has been a conservative stalwart for many years, and she says Mitt Romney is the best candidate. Who are you to argue? Are you hot? Are you Republican? Do you have 137 papers syndicating your column? No? Then you don't know what you're talking about. ROMNEY 2112!

Posted by: Ann Coulter, Super Hottie! at January 23, 2012 08:38 PM (gj4aA)

Look, I don't care if Bozo The Fucking Clown is our nominee, as long as he beats Obama. (Oh, wait, Ron Paul).  Electability is all that matters.  Would I prefer a more conservative candidate than Romney?  Of course.  But Gingrich would lose by 100 electoral votes.  It is critical we win this election.  Buckley rule

351 OT watching a documentary about the Friday 13th movies.They show lots of kills and how they did them.

352 268 Recall the Harriet Miers thing. Anne, for all her gifts, is an elitist.

Posted by: baldilocks at January 23, 2012 08:11 PM (T2/zQ)

Drat no html: http://tinyurl.com/87yp5x6

353 AceTwit: Limiting you to 92 characters.

354
Don't play around with my emotions steevy.

355

The conservative base is angry. yep. And it's always a great idea to make big decisions during fits of rage.

Don't you get tired of holding traditional American values and being mischaracterized and called all kinds of provably wrong things for it, up to and including "racist" when you know it's not true? Aren't you tired of the MFM distorting all things conservative with a fervor that borders on the psychotic? Aren't you tired of having all these things you didn't vote for shoved up your ass by people you didn't vote for?

We seem to be forgetting a big difference between '08 and this year: a lot of the mindless, squishy middle were employed. Today, not so much. They are easily led, incapable of thinking for themselves and will follow whichever crowd is larger. They are the reason we're in this mess.

356 OT watching a documentary about the Friday 13th movies.They show lots of kills and how they did them.

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2012 08:45 PM (7W3wI)

I can beat that.  I'm watching IFC and one of the ads is for a Trojan vibrator ... and the ad makes pretend that men use them, too.  WTF?

357

"I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.

"This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.

"Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.

"This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic. TT"

Tim Thomas is really laying it on the line.  The statement is on his fb but yahoo also comments.

358 steevy: "They show lots of kills and how they did them."

Are you sure you aren't watching a political panel retrospective of the northeastern GOP primary process?

359 "359 Okay, if NBC is claiming issues with Newt's taxes, and NBC is hosting the debate tonight, what are the chances that the question will come up...tonight?" Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 08:41 PM (piMMO) Great. Another Newt media smackdown, and another step towards nominating the most unelectable man in America. Is there no moronette to console me with sweet, sweet boobies? (OK, special pleading, but hey, worth a shot... )

360 I'm watching IFC and one of the ads is for a Trojan vibrator ... and the ad makes pretend that men use them, too. WTF? Posted by: really ... at January 23, 2012 08:48 PM (X3lox) Well if you still on one of the After Midnight threads for Adults only, I'll splain it ya!

361
Troll alert!  It's the wacko.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:48 PM (oZfic)

362 The only reason romney lost to mcain in 08 is that Romney out mcained mcain......more to come in 2012 if he is the candidate.

363 305 Wait...she dated Kieth Olberman and Jimmie Walker?

What? No way.

Posted by: runninrebel at January 23, 2012 08:23 PM (N/1Dm)

Yep.  Didn't she date Mayer too.  That girl's taste in men is frightening.

364 Hmm,seems there was a different actor playing Jason in every movie.

365 377
Troll alert! It's the wacko.

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:48 PM (oZfic)

Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 08:49 PM (TkGkA)

I am not a troll nor a "wacko". 

What, are you a hockey hater?

366 steevy, what channel is that on?

367 Okay, if NBC is claiming issues with Newt's taxes, and NBC is hosting the debate tonight, what are the chances that the question will come up...tonight? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 08:41 PM (piMMO) OK I'll bite, what problems are they claiming?................I'm sorry. I tried to post the link in an earlier comment, but the links thingy isn't working, so I just posted the site address. They are saying that he used a tax exempt organization to fund his travels to promote his book.

368
O'Reilly spanks Andrea Mitchell for saying Willard's relatives were illegal aliens. 

369

nevergiveup, No I am not kidding. I for one would like to know why Fanny and Freddie were paying Newt $1.6 Million while we were and still are bailing them out to the tune of $160 Billion and I would also like to know how some of you are making paragraphs.

370 They must have tested it on David Brock first back in the 90's. Then Sullivan, Noonan, Powell, and Frum were turned.

Posted by: cackfinger at January 23, 2012 08:40 PM (a9mQu)

I don't give a shit what those assholes say.  (Well, except for Noonan, she can be annoying at times, but damn, can the woman turn a phrase.  Look back at her 911 columns- pure poetry)

371 There is no justice, we still have cat pee, but me....

372 I'm going to have the debate on one channel and four episodes of "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia" DVR'ing on another. Wonder which will be more intelligent?

373 The more she rants the more I wonder if she is on Newt's payroll.

374 I was thinking about this earlier today (because I'm so much brillianter than y'all). I find it odd that all the pundits who want to tell us Gingrich will cost the party this election... are they not self-aware enough to consider the possibility that their very insistence that Gingrich is poison to the party, might actually, you know, be influencing people into thinking it's true? Funny how that works. People spend their whole careers trying to influence public opinion, so when public opinion polls show "Gingrich is naughty," they hold it up as some sort of vindication for their opinions, rather than consider their role in developing said opinions. Either the opinion writers influence opinion or they have no business being in the business they are in. You can't have it both ways, Annie.

375 372 Yeah,IFC shows that commercial all the time for some reason.I HOPE they are implying the guy is using it on his girl.

376

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:51 PM (oZfic)

You make Joe Biden sound intelligent.

Go hang out with your antisemitic friends.

377 They are saying that he used a tax exempt organization to fund his travels to promote his book. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 08:51 PM (piMMO) OH? Is that like using taxpayers money to run around the Country in Air Force One saying your doing the COuntry's Business but your really campaigning?

378

Rather than this bullshit "I'm better than you" schtick, these imbeciles need to use every media question to fire back at Obama. Yeah, most voters don't know the depth of MFM bias. But rather than being general, the candidates could get a little more specific.

Genius Newt could have defended Romney and made some points. When the MFM dicks ask about "when's Romney releasing his tax returns," say as soon as you ask Obama where he's hiding his college transcripts. . ."

Romney on Bain could say "at least I didn't get it from some sleazy solar tax credits."

"Doesn't matter if Obama is a nice guy or not. Your kids can't find work. And if they do manage to find work, he's going to tax them to death and give it to bankrupt solar companies who give him political donations."

 

379 I'd plant a rock hard boner up Coulter's ass.

And "steevy"?  He is a little fag - a dickspittle - a cum-fart.

380
Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:48 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2012 08:49 PM (TkGkA)
I am not a troll nor a "wacko".
What, are you a hockey hater?

Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:51 PM (oZfic)

I would prescribe psychotropics for your delusional scribbling.  Consult with your friends for a proper diagnosis.

381 Well,1 guy played Jason in 4 movies out of a dozen.

382 mitt romney!! woohoo! bang! bang!!

383 Oh ENOUGH of Gabby Giffords on FNC! I don't wish her ill, but since when does being shot in the head by a maniac make one a "hero" and "courageous?" Her recovery is heartening, yes, but enough with the BS.

384 I would also like to know how some of you are making paragraphs. Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 08:51 PM (MtwBb) Yeah I'd like to know that also.

385 393 Posted by: ambrosia at January 23, 2012 08:51 PM (oZfic) You make Joe Biden sound intelligent. Go hang out with your antisemitic friends.

Posted by: buzzion at January 23, 2012 08:53 PM (GULKT)

I often wonder why you lie.  I have no anti semetic friends, none, nada.  Just because people might be independent or a lib/dem doesn't mean they are anti semetic.

386 Just saw Coulter on O'Reilly. She's clearly 100% in the tank for Romney and the GOP establishment. Completely.

She's on the Romney payroll--emotionally, if not literally.

387 383 Fearnet if you have it.

388 Gabby Giffords? I thought Sarah Palin KILLED her!

389 371 Tired, indeed. But I'm past the anger. My anger is all boiled out. Nothing left. It's time for the best strategy to beat Obama at his own game. It's time to kill the spirit of the leftists who so gleefully voted for hope and change.

390 Steevy?  What a gay-fag name.

Tell the fuck to go drown his sorry ass in a pool of bilge.

391 Her recovery is heartening, yes, but enough with the BS.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 08:54 PM (niZvt)

Thank you, CoolCzech.  And, let's face it, she's a lot better off than all the people that psycho killed that day, eh?

392 She was married to bill maher. (I read it here a couple of months ago)

393 @402- type < br > (without spaces) for a paragraph break

394 I'm staying away from any attacks on Newt because if he is the nominee,I want him to win.I have not attacked any candidate outside of Ron Paul.I wish everyone would follow that rule.That does not mean you can't criticize them.

395 Dammit- < then br then >

396 Steevy?  Little cock sucker bitch.

397 Clarence really likes me!!!LOL

398 Coulter is ignorable in my book. Strident harpy, meet Ann. Newt is the only one on the stump now to call out the SCoaMF as an Alinsky socialist/Marxist. I admire that. Plus it's true -- just look at his appointment record. Let's see Mitts take off the gloves where they really matter. Then he can move up in esteem points with me. Posted by: GnuBreed at January 23, 2012 07:37 PM (BhuDE) You've just demonstrated Coulter's point and proved her right. You don't really care so much about defeating Obama, as you are looking for a candidate who will just feed you bromides. Gingrich has figured out how to do that, so you've invited this myth that only he is willing to fight Obama, even though Romney has attacked Obama endlessly both in ads and in many, many of the previous debates.

399 Coulter is on the anti Obama payroll and she doesn't think Newt can replace him. So let's all say she has a dick and an adams apple and question who she has dated in the past because she beleives Newt is a fucking loser.

400

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2012 08:54 PM (niZvt)

Fuck her. She had enough brain matter left to understand that if she hung on this long, she has a gauranteed pension.

Her husband is liberal cocksucker too.

 

401 I do not have a real good handle on Romney, other than that he has the best hair in the GOP race (he was second until Perry dropped out).  As a physician, I have no desire to see MassCare/RomneyCare enacted nationally.  I don't see a lot of difference between him and John Kerry, with the exception that Kerry got his money for doing even less work than Mitt did.

Mitt does need to explain, "Yes, I pay federal income taxes of 15% on my investment income.  This is not 'cheating', this is the law.  I pay 15% on the interest I make in part because I already paid 35%+ income tax on the principal from which I derive that investment income.  My opponents will have you believe that I am somehow paying half or less the taxes I should.  The reality is that I am paying almost half-again the taxes on money I already paid taxes on...and unlike public sector pensions no investment is ever guaranteed."

Newt is a stem-winder when he's on his game, but he does have crypto- and not-so-crypto-statist leanings at times, and while ideas are great the left wing of America is what happens when you fall in love with your ideas instead of getting the job done and paying attention to reality now and then.  One of the problems with a lot of "ideas guys" (and I say this as an ENFP personality type, the "ideas guy") is that coming up with ideas is not the same as implementing those ideas.  If Newt has coattails then maybe he'll get some traction early on with a Congress that is GOP-dominated and feels like it owes him some things.  If not, he's going to have to do a lot of glad-handing and arm-twisting to get even one of these great ideas off the ground. 

There's also the issue of leading with the wrong ideas.  In the midst of the worst economic crisis in roughly 70 years, the current POTUS decided it was time to improve access to health insurance.  Bad idea, and wrong time.  If he had focused on getting people back to work, he might have a better shot at reelection but as it stands his reelection is in serious doubt.  If Newt knocks off the SCOAMF, his honeymoon will last about as long as it takes him to drop his right hand to his side after the oath of office, and it will be uphill both ways in the snow after that with the media. 

Nothing the government does at the Congressional level will put people back to work immediately, there is some hope that Executive-level things like repealing scads of EPA stuff and begging the Canadians to reconsider Keystone XL could get things rolling in very short order -- or at least, once the court challenges to those actions are dealt with.  I can guarantee you that the first thing we will hear is "failed policies of the past" followed by angry glances at watches wondering why unemployment hasn't dropped to 5% by January 21st.  Any non-Obama President will get zero slack on the economy or anything else and after all the flak our side has thrown at the "I inherited this economy" line BHO probably says in his sleep by now, there will be little response to be made.  President Mitt Romney will be recast as patrician, aloof and out-of-touch GHW Bush, and Newt will be George W. who talks purty.

I don't know why anyone wants the job.

402 Steevy likes to smear the sperm on his ugly goddamn mug.

403 Dammit- (greater than symbol)br(less than symbol) for paragraph breaks

404 They are saying that he used a tax exempt organization to fund his travels to promote his book. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2012 08:51 PM (piMMO) OH? Is that like using taxpayers money to run around the Country in Air Force One saying your doing the COuntry's Business but your really campaigning?
Well, unfortunately, Obama won't be on the stage tonight. The article did seem to concede that what he had done wasn't outside the letter of the law "but....".
I just expect them to make an issue of it if they can.

405 Personal attacks are cause for the banhammer no??Keep talking douche.

406 I'm staying away from any attacks on Newt because if he is the nominee,I want him to win.I have not attacked any candidate outside of Ron Paul.I wish everyone would follow that rule.That does not mean you can't criticize them. Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2012 08:57 PM (7W3wI
That's actually the wisest thing to do. i shall try to follow the example of not attacking any of them. this is what we have left. it is what it is.

407
Thank you, CoolCzech. And, let's face it, she's a lot better off than all the people that psycho killed that day, eh?

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at January 23, 2012 08:56 PM (YmCr3)

C'mon... there are some things that transcend politics.  God bless this wonderful woman.   We should all rejoice and praise God for her miraculous recovery.

408 and question who she has dated in the past

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 08:58 PM (MtwBb)

Well ... that track record is off-the-charts weird.

Ann was one of the best conservative voices around for years.  She was always on the right side and expressed it in a clear and sharp manner.  But, she's gone off the rails this primary.  First, it was this weird love affair with Christie (who never even wanted to run, and would have been a terrible national candidate) and then she got all odd about Mittens.  It's very strange.  The first time (two times) that I can remember her being wrong.  But she is spectacularly wrong.  Hopefully, she gets herself straightened out, soon.  She has a very important and effective voice.

409 Coulter is on the anti Obama payroll and she doesn't think Newt can replace him. So let's all say she has a dick and an adams apple and question who she has dated in the past because she beleives Newt is a fucking loser.* ***OKAY!!!!

410 So let's all say she has a dick and an adams apple and question who she has dated in the past because she beleives Newt is a fucking loser.

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2012 08:58 PM (MtwBb)

Well I did add some serious commentary on her long-demonstrated elitism which had nothing to do with Newt or who she has dated, so dismount from thy high horse.

411 Is brian williams orange on everyone's tv?  or is it just mine?

412 Coulter......herself, at a CPAC speech.....said that "Romney cannot beat Oblamah". ....That was when she was hoping Christi would get in.

413 Just watched her on O'Reilly and she came across as an gigantic cunt.

414 Fuck her. She had enough brain matter left to understand that if she hung on this long, she has a gauranteed pension. Her husband is liberal cocksucker too.

Posted by: ErikW at January 23, 2012 08:58 PM (JILBp)

 

C'mon... there are some things that transcend politics. God bless this wonderful woman. We should all rejoice and praise God for her miraculous recovery.

Posted by: Ombudsman at January 23, 2012 09:02 PM (AxHOT)

415 steevy, best to ignore that poster. maybe it will get whacked eventually

416 a gigantic cunt.  An enormous cunt.  A cunt of epic proportions.

417 He's orange. The candidates aren't the same color so it's just him.

418 Spray on tan.

419

The only difference between Romney and and a ham sandwich has always been an assertion.

An assertion of electability, based on year-out polls and technical performance during prior losses, while blatantly ignoring the Newteyness currently rampaging through the party.

To say nothing else at all about Romney - noting else at all - as a matter of plain fact, he is not some super-electable inevitable win.

I don't know if you swallowed that line yourself or if you still think it's the best sale, but until people reconnect with reality I don't see a way foward. Romney must change, or something must change, or else Newt.

You don't see me going around clinging to past wisdom that seemed so obvious and certain at the time. Perry was a flop. You're not going to see me pining for a brokered convention with a miraculous Perry win either - that's preposterously absurd, that such a brokered convention would pick the guy they all hated, abruptly changing their minds.

And in some regards, Romney is now in a similar situation. I hope you Romney guys don't cling on as long as we Perry people did, cause there's not that much time left and you'll still be singing Romney's inevitability well into Joe Biden's 2nd term.

420 coulter isn't all bad, she is certainly misguided if she thinks attacking conservatives that disagree with her choice is a good policy or very convincing.
we see a lot of disagreement here, do we honestly believe those that want to vote for romney or those that want to vote for newt are really idiots?
i don't i just think we have two not great candidates and are trying to figure out who can win/.

421 OMG a conservative political personality said something I disagree with!!!

I'M SO ANGRY I HATE HER SHE'S AN UGLY POOPY HEAD!!!

422 Lay off the tardasil for a day Clarence. You've had enough. The shit can't replace your blood.

423 SC voters are not stupid because the didn't vote for Romney. They're stupid because they voted for Gingrich. They had another option. This is a guy just a month ago looked you straight in the face and told you he was just a mere historian for Freddie Mac and only got 300k for his historian work. That's the guy you want to be President. I can't believe I may have to vote for that arrogant liar.

424

C'mon... there are some things that transcend politics. God bless this wonderful woman. We should all rejoice and praise God for her miraculous recovery.
Posted by: Ombudsman at January 23, 2012 09:03 PM (AxHOT)

Sorry but no. She was a progressive lib that was big on abortion rights.

She can go to hell.

425 haha Hollow, she isn't ugly, but she sure could use a double cheeseburger, fries and a chocolate shake.

426 romney!! woohoo! bang bang!!

427 Coulter was born a Catholic. Now she's apostolic...........To The Rack!

428 Giffords clearly hung on(or,more likely,was made to hang on)purely to get her pension.

429 She has less "gravitas" than that Giants cheerleader-cum-model girl from the weekend football thread. IYKWIMAITTYD.

430 And who the fuck cares that Giffords survived a gunshot to the head? The lefties describe it as a miracle when they don't even believe in God. Fuck them all. I hate them.

431 Along with worrying about which RINO will be able to beat Obama, we should be worried about how to keep the leftists from stealing the election.  Again.  Remember that credit card thing?  That should have disqualified him, which means that the 2008 election was stolen.

432 Can't we all remember just who real enemy is? Initials BHO. Than includes you, Anne C.

433 "As the incumbent, Obama is the fronteunner regardless of who we nominate."
You'll see.

434 "The lefties describe it as amiracle when they don't even believe in God."
They think guns are magic kill sticks that cannot be survived.

435 We are the [largest catagory] when you consider [Left], [Right], . When a candidate like Newt has a 30+ points disapproval, that polarization manifests in the fraction [Left+Center] >> [Right+Center]. We lose big.

I don't think this math things works like you think it does.

436 We are the [largest catagory] when you consider [Left], [Right], . When a candidate like Newt has a 30+ points disapproval, that polarization manifests in the fraction [Left+Center] >> [Right+Center]. We lose big.

I don't think this math things works like you think it does.

437 And, this is the party that's going to get together later this year and support one  candidate???  I just don't see it.

438 America knows Newt.  America has hated Newt for over 16 years, every time his name is included in the list of public figures to approve or disapprove, he has negatives in the 20-40% range, usually in the middle of it.

America changes its opinion of public figures all the time.  Clinton, Bush, and Obama all had highs and lows during their careers.  But Gingrich has never made a comeback.  Independents hate his guts.  They may be unsure about their jobs or what to do about Iran or drilling in ANWR, but they know one thing:  Newt sucks.

It is silly to believe somehow a clever debate line will change that.  Newt was also glib, that's not his problem.

His problem is he isn't a very good person, and it shows.

439 Laura, you sound hot.

440 Coulter can be a bitchier version of Maureen Dowd.  Unlike Mo Do Coulter  still gets laid once in a while.  Which is why there is no danged excuse for Coulter to be acting this way.

441 I've had ZERO use for Coulter ever since she dishonestly attacked evolution through natural selection, calling it junk science. Pandering to the nutters who prefer to believe the mythologies of ancient desert nomads over 150 years of hard science from multiple disciplines is nothing less than prostitution. Unless of course she is actually one of them, which would then simply be pathetic.

442 Newt on Work Ethic???  L. should be writing for The Outer Limits.

Whoa, research reveals that Newton has toiled the Dickensian streets of academia.  Sorry.

But looking at him you would think the most work he ever does is attempt to button that shirt button at navel level.

443 I like Newt too but everything I have been reading says he can't beat Obama. I don't care who runs as long as whoever does can appeal to enough voters to beat liar in chief. Another four years of that fucker and were doomed. 

444

So at this point we're looking at Mitt who probably cant beat Obama and a Newt who imo absolutely cannot possibly beat Obama (and who would I believe jeopardize a GOP Senate backstop of HopenChange 2: the Wrath of Barack).

Arguably the worst performing President in nearly a century, and the major opposition party in a country of 300+ million cant produce a better candidate than either of these two, one of whom will almost certainly face Obama in November.

It appears to me today that one would lose to Obama by a Clinton-Bush 41 margin and one by a Clinton-Dole margin. That says a lot to me about where this nation is headed.

445

Honor roll of the Best of the Best of Harvard's Best and the Brightest

Barack Obama Jr. & Sr, Michelle Obama, G W Bush, Mike Dukakis, Pierre Trudeau, Jaques Chirac, Mitt Romney, Al Gore Jr., Duval Patrick, Scott Harshbarger, Ben Bernanke, Joseph P. Kennedy, JFK, Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Dick Blumenthal, John Vitter, Carl Levin, Jim Guy Tucker, Jim Jeffords, Barney Frank, Alan Grayson, Mel Reynolds, Christopher Cox, Hank Paulson, Larry Sommers, Elena Kagan, Lawrence Tribe, Charles Ogletree, Skip Gates, William "Freezer" Jefferson, Ted Kennedy, Robert Toricelli, Elliot Spitzer, Al Franken, Michael Huffington, Patsy Schroeder, Joe Sestak, Hank Cisneros, Alan Krueger, John Holdren, Cass Sunstein, Harold Koh, Chris Lu, Willard Tom, Jason Bordoff, David Kris, (DOJ) Samantha Power, Julius Genachowski, Franklin Raines, Daniel Mudd, Jamie Gorelick, Robert Zoellick, Jeff Skilling, Hassan Nemazee, Henry Kissinger, Robert McNamara, Sandy Berger, Brock Adams, Alberto Gonzalez, J. Paul Bremer, Douglas Feith, Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Kenneth Chennault, Franklin Raines, Stan O'Neal, Jamie Gorelick, Daniel Mudd, Robert Zoellick, John Thain, Jeff Immelt, John Paulson, Sumner Redstone, Robert Belfer (founder of Enron), Jeff Skilling (Enron), James B. Lockhart III, Robert "bailout Bob" Rubin, Penny Pritzker, Rick Wagoner, Philip Falcone (Lightsquared), George Kaiser (Solyndra), Peter Rouse (F & F, Solyndra, Lightsquared), Vin Weber, Jacob Lew (Lightsquared), David Barron (DOJ F & F), Ian H. Gershengorn, Tom Perez (DOJ F & F), Steven Spinner (Solyndra), Jonathan Silver (Solyndra), Chai Feldman, Klaus Schwab, Eric Mindich, Richard Whitney (of 1929 infamy), Thomas Lamont (banker to Mussolini), Patrick Fitzgerald, David Baron, Todd Stern, Zbigniew Brzmezinski, Harry Dexter White, Ted Hall, Alger Hiss, Amy Bishop, Timothy Leary, Alfred Kinsey, Al Gore III, Robert Tunnell Jr, Cardinal Bernard Francis Law, Rajat Gupta, Marc Stuart Dreir, Oded Aboodi, Eugene Plotkin Andrew Schliefer, Ephren Taylor Marc Stuart Dreier. Hemy Zvi Neuman, Noah Freeman....

The screening process now for Harvard students practically ensures that they are going to be leftist-liberal globalists who care nothing about the rest of the country. Harvard and Cambridge are just swimming in money while the rest of the country (except for DC, Martha's V Frisco, Berkeley, U of Chi, Ivy League schools), is taking it on the chin.

446 Ann Coulter lost me when she said only Chris Christie could win as the Republican nominee.  Haven't paid much attention to her since.

Note:  I just read the article and not the comments, so I sure hope I'm repeating someone's take.

447 I don't think it is stupidity as much as gullibility or willful denial.  Newt has a history of saying whatever he needs to win at the moment and then doing what he damn well pleases later.  He is undependable and untrustworthy.  That's frustrating to people who know his history when other voters want to ignore it.

448  What you don't remember as I'm sure you were far from being born yet, is that people were making the same poo-pooingremarks about Reagan in'79 and '80. But we had Carter as the president. Need I go on?

Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2012 07:52 PM (cqLNL)

I've got to call BS on this. I am old enough to remember 1980 - as are most of thhe people here. The only ones who thought Reagan would lose against Carter were liberals and political media. I remember counting votes in a school poll at that time, and the students voted something like 25-1 for Reagan. Oklahoma, at that time, was moderately Democrat, unlike today.

449 Ann went a bit crazy--okay she went way crazy. That is the only way you can describe that performance. Does she know who buys her books? Here is a hint, they are mostly Tea Party members. Or at least they used to be. Sadly I doubt alcohol or good drugs were involved in that implosion by Ann.

450 She went crazy

451 http://tinyurl.com/8ydgqlv

452 I'm getting all misty eyed.

I don't think undependable, voterswant or ignoreit are actual words.

453 LOL, I don't know what happened.  I didn't type it that way!

454 Then slap that little troll off your keyboard misty.

455 Nice post, LauraW!  Nice to see more from you. I guess this must be the "in between" time when you have only the normal complement of fingers.

Ann Coulter doesn't often make the case there ought to be more like Romney, either. As tough as she is on leftists, she doesn't really do the, "I'm successful and unapologetic about it," schtick, like say, Rush does.

456 Ann just Noonan'd herself. Pity.

457

Newt Gingrich is unelectable....and deservedly so.  He is a very unattractive human being in every way.

Romney is the only Republican candidate who has a shot at beating Obama.

If it's Gingrich against Obama I won't vote (and I think there aare millions of people like me).

 

 

458

http://tinyurl.com/7564eoo

Ann didn't believe Mittens was electable 11 months ago; I wonder if some of that sweet Mittens campaign cash changed her mind.

459 Right on!! right on!!, Laura W,  You summed it up perfectly with the last sentence--> "Not the voters' fault if he doesn't rise to the occasion."

Ann Coulter wanted us to pick her man Romney because she anointed him.   Yet, Romney never tried to earn our vote. 

But, what do I know, I'm just an angry Palinista, Perrykrisna  :-)

460 Hasn't this site been making the argument for awhile that there are a lot of republicans looking for the anti-Romney?  Has this election not looked like a toddler league soccer game?  Isn't that the exact same thing that Coulter is saying--although in her own colorful way?  Why are you guys bashing her for saying the same thing Ace is saying?  Well, I guess Ace has taken a couple of lumps... 

461

I don't often listen to political punditry from a woman, but when I do, I prefer for that woman to not have an adams apple. Stay thirsty my friends.

 

462 I seem to recall Coulter was originally a Michigander. So was Romney. That may be sufficient for her support of a merely nominal Republican candidate. On the other hand, her apparent disdain for a knuckle-dragging son-of-the-pioneers who values me my precious Freedom seems to be evidence of lesbianism, or something.

463 Newt Gingrich is unelectable.... If it's Gingrich against Obama I won't vote

So you think he can't win and you'll do your best to make sure Obama does instead? Got it.

464 476: exactly, Coulter said the Republicans cannot win if they pick Romney, then totally reversed positions without explanation.

465

If he can't win (and anyone with a three digit IQ can see he can't win) don't blame me.  Blame the jerkoffs who can't see he's unelectable.

 

I'm tired of seeing the Republicans hand the Presidency to the Democrats.

466 8
It will be the women of this country that will save it from tyrants. make sandwiches.


FIFY

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