1 Isn't there some precedent for labeling your political opponents as insane?

2 isn't phrenology kinda old fashioned?

3 A true psychopath needs absolution from neither priest nor psychologist.
Posted by: Open Blogger at 03:44 PM

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Should have been the lede.  Worthy of a plague.

4 I guess we could do an experiment, putting the 1% into camps, and see what happens to the 99% when they stop getting paychecks.

5 So an Olympic athlete could be considered a psychopath for obsessive training for years at a time in just only one event?

6 turd for the lil' emperor. :-)

7

Taken to the extreme, some traders psychologists become compulsive gamblers liars. The behavior is often latent--neither they nor anyone else knows they have this propensity. They hide small losses idiocies and obvious mistakes and keep doubling their position to try to eliminate them. When those trades theories turn sour, they dig themselves into a deeper hole and deny any wrongdoing or failure. They rationalize by telling themselves that poor investment decisions psychological ideas are an occupational hazard. They lie to family members or others to conceal the extent of their involvement with gambling mind-numbing idiocy and commit forgery, fraud, theft, and embezzlement to support their habit ill-gotten academic position that they, and everyone else, knows is a joke.

This is really just another scream for help from an insane (and fairly stupid) psychologist.

8 The definition of a psychopath =

Also called: sociopath a person afflicted with a personality disorder characterized by a tendency to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts and a failure to feel guilt for such acts

What he describes above is someone who has a compulsive disorder for gambling.  That is not the average trader and not a psychopath.

In short, he is a liar, not a scientist. And psychiatry is not a science to begin with.

9 "Canadian Psychologist Robert Hare says 1 percenters are more likely to be psychopaths." I suspect that's true. However, I suspect that successful politicians (particularly "populist" ones) are far, far, more likely to be psychopaths than other members of the 1%.

10 ...what about the 1%ers (God, I hate that word) who aren't in the financial services sector?  Athletes, actors, artists, pinkos with trust funds?

11 Should have been the lede. Worthy of a plague.

Posted by: Not an Artist at February 28, 2012 03:48 PM (Lo/3Q)

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Oops, meant "Worthy of a plaque"

12 I'm on the fence about this. On the one hand, this is mostly bullshit. On the other, the 1%'ers are mostly Democrats, and I like seeing what they have sown finally come home to fucking roost and bite them.

13 Explains Alec Baldwin, though.

14 You know those OWS protesters who were throwing urine bombs at police in Denver a couple of days ago?  They're people persons.

15

8 The definition of a psychopath =

Also called: sociopath
a person afflicted with a personality disorder characterized by a
tendency to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts and a failure
to feel guilt for such acts
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So, 50% of the people at a typical OWS sit in.

16 It is well-known that conservatism is a mental disease and the only cure is single-payer health care. Oh, and send the grant money directly to my account, no need to involve the university.

17 That fat-ass Michael Moore is a 1%er.  So there's that.

18 If you have ever dealt with a real psycopath/sociopath you flabbergasted. They are pretty easy to spot once you have known one. Hare is a smart guy. I have read some of his books. Check out " snakes in suits "

19 I suspect that's true. However, I suspect that successful politicians (particularly "populist" ones) are far, far, more likely to be psychopaths than other members of the 1%.
****

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, anyone?

20 Projection is a real bitch for the left, huh?

21 Oh, so the 1%ers are psychopaths and sociopaths.  That explains why so many 1%ers shat on police cars, took over public parks, raped their female co-campers, and generally made a public nuisance of themselves to get their college loans waived and more government cheese.

Wait, what?

22

If you have ever dealt with a real psycopath/sociopath you  will be flabbergasted. They are pretty easy to spot once you have known one. Hare is a smart guy. I have read some of his books. Check out " snakes in suits "

 

Corrected

23

I think Mr. Hare has seen the movie Amercan Psycho a few too many times.

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Hey Dr. Hare...don't just stare at it...eat it! 

24 "I suspect that's true. However, I suspect that successful politicians (particularly "populist" ones) are far, far, more likely to be psychopaths than other members of the 1%. **** Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, anyone?" Actually, I was thinking of JFK, Clinton, Obama...

25

You know those OWS protesters who were throwing urine bombs at police in Denver a couple of days ago? They're people persons.
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Very well adjusted, the paragons of mental health. Especially the tent-creeping rapists.

26  I think that better-put-some-ice-on-that BJ Clinton could be a psychopath.

27 >>That fat-ass Michael Moore is a 1%er. So there's that.

But he "earned" his money in a good way (film, sucking up to progg politicians--did he get any gov't funding for any of his shit?) and not an in evil way (banking, manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, staffing the ER overnights, anything productive/useful, really).

It's not about money at all, in the end.

28 The problem with this characterization, of course, is not that traders can't display psychopathic behavior -- they can -- but that a psychiatric definition has been placed in a political context. When psychiatry becomes political, deviation from political orthodoxy becomes mental illness. And psychiatrists are only too happy to place themselves at the disposal of the left.

29 I am a 1%er but luckily not in the psychopath part. Just ask the maid.

30 "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty." Robert Heinlein I think he nailed it.

31 I'd like to meet Psychologist and all like him behind the gym just like we did in High School for a little talking to. Does that make me a psychopath?

32 Some have called me a psychopath in the past - I simply have downplayed those comments and called them "harpy" in return.

33

Dr. Hare wields a pretty broad brush.

**

Warren Buffet hardest hit.

 

34 2 isn't phrenology kinda old fashioned?

Phrenology works! If we beat this Canadian's skull lumps down with a baseball bat, he will stop spewing this insanity.

35 You're all very mad

Would you please pass me a leg and some gravy?

36 "When psychiatry becomes political, deviation from political orthodoxy becomes mental illness. And psychiatrists are only too happy to place themselves at the disposal of the left." Hey, what else are you going to do with dissidents?

37

The definition of a psychopath =Also called: sociopath a person afflicted with a personality disorder characterized by a tendency to commit antisocial and sometimes violent acts and a failure to feel guilt for such acts-----

That's not true.  A psychopath/sociopath is just someone without any empathy.  He doesn't have to be mean or nasty or do anything wrong.  There are many psychopaths who are perfectly decent people.  They just don't have emotional attachments to anything and can act weird because of that.  There's nothing inherently wrong about being a psychopath. Just because one isn't emotionally attached doesn't make them dangerous.  In fact, many of the worst people are full of emotions about their insanity, which is what makes them extra dangerous.

38 Dow above 13k.....He's back baby!
FAPFAPFAPFAPFAP

39 The data also show Canadian psychologists are nine times as likely to be assholes.

40

I'm trying to keep a list of all the things I am that the Left says I'm not just because I have the wrong political beliefs.

1.  A woman

2.  Queer

3.  Intelligent

4.  Soul having (I am including this because the lack of a soul of my own is due to gingerness not political beliefs)

Yeah.  Taste the tolerance. 

41

"I had to kill a lot of people".

"I need to return some videotapes."

"Get a job, Al."

42 Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, anyone?"

Actually, I was thinking of JFK, Clinton, Obama...
****

Debbie Downer is impressive because she will lie about anything to anyone without the slightest compunction and regardless of the bald faced nature of the lie.

43 Ace, psychologists are 20% more likely to be a psychopath.

I have never known a sane psychology major.

44 If the shrinks used Rosie O'Donnell, Roseanne Barr, Sean Penn, Angelina Jolie, and Lindsey Lohan for his 1 percenter subjects, I could see how he could reach these conclusions

Otherwise I think he's full of shit and just wants some sort of appeal to authority to backup his name calling

45 In an extensive study I have come to the conclusion that most people that go into psychology/psychiatry are crazy.

46

Psycopaths are easily bored and don't posess the discipline to achieve and maintain a position in finance like this dumbfuck wants to believe.

 

Amoral /= psychopathic.

 

But then the story would be "Many financiers care nothing about stepping on others for a profit."

 

And then you'd have George Soros.

47 Community Organizers have 100% chance of being psychopaths.

48 First lesson of Finance: want to make a small fortune on Wall Street? Start with a large fortune.

49 Psychology might have once had a leg to stand on but since the sixties its been used by the left to attack conservative thought as being some form of mental illness. Anymore psychology seems to be about publishing studies to support preconceived outcomes. 

50 I have never known a sane psychology major. Posted by: AmishDude at February 28, 2012 04:04 PM (T0NGe) I have noticed that psychology majors gave lousy blow jobs, they never seemed to have their heads into it?

51 These "financial psychopaths" generally lack empathy and interest in what other people feel or think. At the same time, they display an abundance of charm, charisma, intelligence, credentials, an unparalleled capacity for lying, fabrication, adn manipulation, and a drive for thrill seeking."

The same could be said of just about any politician, particularly the SCOAMF

52 I'm as honest as a drinking man can be.

53
"Taken to the extreme, some traders become compulsive gamblers. The behavior is often latent--neither they nor anyone else knows they have this propensity. They hide small losses and keep doubling their position to try to eliminate them. When those trades turn sour, they dig themselves into a deeper hole and deny ay wrongdoing or failure. They rationalize by telling themselves that poor investment decisions are an occupational hazard. They lie to family members or others to conceal the extent of their involvement with gambling and commit forgery, fraud, theft, and embezzlement to support their habit.








Show of hands. How many of you immediately thought of MFM reporters caught up in a plagiarism scandal?

 

54 And here comes teh psychology bashing... First lesson of Cognitive Psych: Fear and menace does not make them hate you. It makes them love you.

55

I have never known a sane psychology major.

 

Their kids are the best.

56 I knew I was doing the SANE thing by putting you wingnuts in my rearview mirror!

It's SCIENCE talking, but I know crazy and you all are crazy

One minute, my siren that alerts me when someone on the internet is talking about me just went off! Adieu!!!

57

Hmmm... the lying...the digging themselves into a deeper hole... the denying ay wrongdoing or failure... the fraud...

I didn't read the whole post. Are we talking about climate scientists? You know, the people who want to turn humanity away from the only proven sources of energy that can sustain life(styles) as we know it?

 

58 I wonder if there has ever been an actual study about the personality profiles of the left versus the right?  Somehow I think it might come out differently than the CW these folks are trying to establish.

59

i would rather be in the 1% than the 52%

just saying

60 "He claims that while psychopaths are represented by 1% of society in general, people in the financial service industry are 10% more likely to be one."

So this means instead of 1% of the general pop.  it's 1.1% of finance folks?  Everyone run away!!!  (I didn't read the article, is my math wrong?)

61 Abortionists are well adjusted.

62

Also I thought psychopathy and sociopathy were different disorders. 

 

Hmm, I wonder if this also falls into the whole making competition out to be latently harmful thing.

63 In the main, I agree with what you wrote and your conclusions but I have to take exception to this part:

“Short of brain trauma however, it is vanishingly rare for someone to lose all sense of empathy for others, which is the hallmark of a psychopath.”

Losing all sense of empathy for others is one of the hallmarks of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. By most accounts, NPD is on the rise — possibly becoming the symptomatic mental illness of the times.

While I believe it's important to realize that everyone — whether mentally healthy or ill — has a particular character style, it seems a generally a bad idea to engage in armchair psychiatric diagnoses about entire groups of people; especially when pushing a personal agenda. To me, that is intellectually dishonest.

64

 

As a whole....that "Dehumanizing" phenomenon increases as the human population increases.

........

Supply and Demand. ....It applies to humanoids, too. ......When there were fewer humans, there were fewer laws and more freedoms.....and people put a higher value on human life.

.......

Sociopathic behavior will continue to increase, I think, as our population continues to increase.

65 pot calls kettle black; news at 11

66 A true psychopath needs absolution from neither priest nor psychologist.

Yep.  Being untouched by regret or guilt does makes life easier.

67 Show of hands. How many of you immediately thought of MFM reporters caught up in a plagiarism scandal?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 28, 2012 04:06 PM (XCHGh)

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I thought of politicians and Fannie/Freddie executives, does that count?

68 does that "one percent" include apes eating figs in grottos??????  Well.....?

69

I didn't read the source material and won't, but the behavior cited here is just manufactured. I worked as a trader on trading desks for 28 years. Nobody could survive a week habitually refusing to cut losses and blaming others. That's the behavior that washes you out onto the street right from the start.

 

This isn't to say that traders haven't done this stuff, but not because of any compulsion or lack or perspective. They screw up, make a mad play at redeeming their error and instead compound it. Then they're done and out on the street.

 

Nobody gets to habitually "blow up" their book. Nobody could be expected to believe a guy can make a career out of the behavior described. It's like saying a baseball player is a klepto and attempts steals bases compulsively, whether he gets the sign or not. Therefore he is thrown out a lot. He makes it to the majors.

 

Well, no he doesn't.

70 I'm kinda starting to think that maybe the Scientologists have a point re: psychiatry. They're batshit insane in everything else, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

71 so is it something i can collect money for?

72 "Psycopaths are easily bored and don't posess the discipline to achieve and maintain a position in finance like this dumbfuck wants to believe." Yeah, if you are lazy and bored, community organizing and politics is a lot easier...

73

Show of hands. How many of you immediately thought of MFM reporters caught up in a plagiarism scandal?

 

I went straight to the comments.

74

>>>By most accounts, NPD is on the rise — possibly becoming the symptomatic mental illness of the times.

 

I think you mean to say that diagnoses of NPD are on the rise.

75 I wonder if there has ever been an actual study about the personality profiles of the left versus the right? Somehow I think it might come out differently than the CW these folks are trying to establish.
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Not to long ago I read an article stating in effect that conservatives are happier than liberals and postulating that the reason for that is that conservatives realize that they are the masters of their own fate while liberals see themselves as victims of circumstances.  The identity politics of the progressives is designed to convince people that they are being cheated.  The blacks would all be bank presidents if it weren't for racism.  The OWS deserve good do nothing jobs.  The progressives convince them that they are being cheated, that they deserve for the government to give them money and services confiscated from the rich, and that the rich, who have cheated them, deserve to be despised.  All this does not lead to happiness.

76 Is HE a 1%'er?

77 Also I thought psychopathy and sociopathy were different disorders.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at February 28, 2012 04:11 PM (VtjlW)

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I was taught that they were; a sociopath would be a con man, and a psychopath would be a killer.  Neither cares too much about the victim, but the sociopath at least cares about eventual justice.  That was 20 years ago, though.

78 "I wonder if there has ever been an actual study about the personality profiles of the left versus the right? Somehow I think it might come out differently than the CW these folks are trying to establish." Academics do that study all the time! Leftists are warm, emphatic human beings comfortable with complexity. Conservatives are robotic fascist automatons. Everyone at the faculty club agrees!

79

Losing all sense of empathy for others is one of the hallmarks of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. By most accounts, NPD is on the rise — possibly becoming the symptomatic mental illness of the times.

 

I thought NPD got yanked from the DSM V.

80 How can psychopathy be "latent"?

81

Why do we have a knee-jerk defense of an industry mostly populated by commies?

 

Socialists  like central banks and manipulated markets, I thought.

82 I'll tell you something, most if not all libs have serious Borderline Personality Disorder

83

I was taught that they were; a sociopath would be a con man, and a psychopath would be a killer. Neither cares too much about the victim, but the sociopath at least cares about eventual justice.

 

Precisely. That was my amateur understanding as well. A sociopath does not/cannot care about others but is capable of making rational decisions about his/her own best interests. A psychopath honey badgers it. 

 

84 Robert Hare sounds like he's describing the current administration's blind betting, losing, and doubling down on clean energy.  Maybe it will self-destruct and save us the trouble of putting it down (voting it out).

85 Liberal Brain Inverter test:

Normal, sane adults would say "People who work hard to earn a lot of money are to be admired for their persistence and dedication."

Try to come up with the most bizarre inversion and you get "People who work hard to earn a lot of money are INSANE PSYCHOPATHS!"

The Liberal Brain Inverter scores again!

86

@alexthechick,

 

There's nothing "Queer" about wanting to ride Kate Upton like a Tilt-A-Whirl.  You're in a safe place, and we're behind you.

87
“Short of brain trauma however, it is vanishingly rare for someone to
lose all sense of empathy for others, which is the hallmark of a
psychopath.” --Losing all sense of empathy for others is one of the hallmarks of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. By most accounts, NPD is on the rise — possibly becoming the symptomatic mental illness of the times.--
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Vintage advertisement that unintentionally portrays the psychopathÂ’s view of others, link:
http://tinyurl.com/7j2nrb9

"Foxes and Reptiles--Psychopathy and the Financial Meltdown"
By Jonathan Zap, 2009, 2012

88 This is more of the liberals 2 minutes of hate on the "1%"

89 "Taken to the extreme, some traders become compulsive gamblers. The
behavior is often latent--neither they nor anyone else knows they have
this propensity. They hide small losses and keep doubling their position
to try to eliminate them. When those trades turn sour, they dig
themselves into a deeper hole and deny ay wrongdoing or failure. They
rationalize by telling themselves that poor investment decisions are an
occupational hazard. They lie to family members or others to conceal the
extent of their involvement with gambling and commit forgery, fraud,
theft, and embezzlement to support their habit.

Show of hands. How many of you immediately thought of MFM reporters caught up in a plagiarism scandal?

IllTemperedCur at February 28, 2012 04:06 PM (XCHGh)

My first thought was of SCOAMF and Solyndra.  I remember him saying that some of those green investments wouldn't work out, and that's just fine, thankyouverymuch.

90 How can psychopathy be "latent"?

****

I may have that.  CNN told me that I should give a damn that Whitney Houston was dead but I found out that I didn't.

91 What a bunch of bullcrap.  Everyone knows sociopaths are not drawn to the financial sector.  High concentrations of them are found in sales and entertainment.

92 Taken to the extreme, some traders become compulsive gamblers. The behavior is often latent--neither they nor anyone else knows they have this propensity. They hide small losses and keep doubling their position to try to eliminate them. When those trades turn sour, they dig themselves into a deeper hole and deny ay wrongdoing or failure. They rationalize by telling themselves that poor investment decisions are an occupational hazard. They lie to family members or others to conceal the extent of their involvement with gambling and commit forgery, fraud, theft, and embezzlement to support their habit.

He's describing failed traders - those that have blown up their books in spectacular fashion. Most of these people never attain 1%er status. The most successful traders are pretty much the exact opposite of what he's describing.

93 Canadians, they're hilarious.

Does this guy label SCOAMF as a sociopath?  When he does I'll read the article.

94 WikiLeaks has released an e-mail exchange between employees of Stratfor, the US-based global intelligence company, which reveals Israel and Russia made a deal to swap access codes for defense and surveillance equipment. According to the leaked document, Israel gave Russia the "data link codes" for unmanned aerial vehicles that the Jewish state sold to Georgia, and in return, Russia gave Israel the codes for Tor-M1 missile defense systems that Russia sold Iran. (Ynet) Hum? Very interesting. I'm guessing Georgia ain't all that happy about this?

95

Tim Geithner: Sociopath, or not?

 

Hank Paulson: Sociopath?

 

Yeah, thought so.  If they are part of the incestuous IMF/Goldman Sachs cabal, they probably are sociopaths.

96 I think the key marker for psychopathy is lying simply because it's fun to lie, and silently laugh at the rubes who believe you. President Billy C comes to mind...

97
I'm kinda starting to think that maybe the Scientologists have a point re: psychiatry.






Psychiatry isn't the same as psychology, IIRC it's more concerned with tangibles like brain chemistry. Psychology is more like "watch me pull an explanation for junior's behavior out of my ass".

Although I'd be interested in knowing the Zenu-worshipers' attitude towards psychology vs psychiatry.

98 Since an ever larger volume percentage of trading is done by high frequency trading computers, isn't this bullshit study obsolete anyway?

99 most of the top Demos in and out of the Hussein Admin are sociopaths

we disapprove...

100 which is why I despise Obamacare. anyone think This type of psychologist wouldn't be willing to label others that are not progressives as ill.  I think of the state workers that plumbered Joe?
or just throw all your medical information out there because it is possible ?

future Obamacare medical employee. no thanks.

101 President Billy C comes to mind...

Posted by: President Algae Obama at February 28, 2012 04:29 PM (QgAFR)

 

Yeah, the guy who signed off on the death of Glass-Steagall. Great guy.

102 wonder if He applied for a green card?

103 Hum? Very interesting. I'm guessing Georgia ain't all that happy about this?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 04:28 PM (i6RpT)

Not to mention the Iranians, since now the Israelis essentially own their missiles -- at least until the Russians come with a sweet deal on new codes.

104 Debbie Wasserman-Shultz is a pathological liar in that she will say anything, and I mean ANYTHING to win an argument. Is she a psychopath or sociopath?    maybe.

105 @98

C'mon now, you just invalidated that that poor, dumb, raped by a rabid polar bear person's reason for existence.

106 Scientologists don't like shrinks because shrinks can be used in court against them--and the Zenu Boys loves them some court

107 97 - Serotonin/Thetans, same thing really.

108 Jimbo, just a true believer. (in power)

109 Wait a second: some of you are bringing in FACTS! What the hell are you trying to do?

110 SCOMF = Sociopath
Mrs. SCOAMF = Sociopath
Joe Biden = Village Idiot w/sociopathic tendencies
Eric Holder = Racist Sociopath
Steven Chu = Scared Shitless Obama Lackey
Nancy Pelosi = Psychopath Vampire Bat

I could go on and on...

111 also, all psychopaths are sociopaths, but most sociopaths are not psychopaths

112 This psychologist probably needs to heal himself before He can be of help to others.

113  He isn't a shrink who is the gatekeeper to the good stuff, the meds. He is a practicing psychologist, so you get talk therapy. I am not buying it.

114 BTW, this CFA magazine isn't even a genuine academic publication.  I work for a big land grant university and we don't have a subscription.  We have subscriptions to all sorts of academic crap.

Is this thing even peer-reviewed?  (Which is a joke in the wussy fields, but still...)

115 or at least that's how Aristotle would have put it

also, Plato was not Belgian 

116 I have posted this previously as my description of the difference between a conservative and a liberal but it seems to also fit in regard to two different types of ' 1 percenters' which actually might also correspond to their political makeup. Conservatives are courageous nut not bold. Liberals are bold but not courageous. Boldness is impatient. Courage is long-suffering. Boldness cannot endure hardship or delay, it is ravenous and must feed on victory or it dies. Boldness makes it's seat upon the air. Courage plants it's feet upon the earth and draws it's strength from God's holy fundament. The bold man is prideful,brazen, ambitious. The brave man calm, God/fearing, steady. The bold man seeks to divide;he wants his own and will shoulder his brother aside to loot it. The brave man unites. He succors his fellow, knowing what belongs to the commonwealth belongs to him as well. The bold man covets; he sues his neighbor in the law court, he intrigues, he dissembles. The brave man is content with his lot; he respects that portion the gods have granted and husband it, comportinghimself with humility as heaven's steward. In troubled times the bold man flails about in effeminate anguish, seeking to draw his neighbors into his misfortune, for he has no strength of character to fall back upon other than to drag others down to his own state of wickedness. Now the brave man in dark hours he endured silently, uncomplaining. Reverencing the round of heven's seasons, he does what must be done, sustaining himself with the certainty that to endure injustice with patience is the mark of piety and wisdom.

117

@62 - Psychopathy and Sociopathy are separate clinical diagnosis, but they are both subsets of Antisocial Personality Disorder.  I forget exactly what the distiction is (or actually used to be since my psych rotation was under the DSM-IIIR and I think it is DSM- IVR now) but it is probably like the 7th of 10 diagnostic criteria and matters very little to the lay person.

Interestingly the author of the article in the OP is the person who devised the current diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder.

 

118

104 Debbie Wasserman-Shultz is a pathological liar in that she will say anything, and I mean ANYTHING to win an argument. Is she a psychopath or sociopath? maybe.
---

 

Shes a democrat.

119 Reminds me of this old Cheers episode;

Frasier: Carla, this psychic business is just a crutch to avoid reality. I mean, it's very easy for people to get hooked on this hocus pocus, and well, before you know it, this woman is going to be holding your hand once a week, charging you $100 a hour and filling your mind with all sorts of confusing jargon.

Carla: And how is that different from you?

Frasier: Well ... I can prescribe drugs ..

120 BTW, this CFA magazine isn't even a genuine academic publication.

Is it sorta like Cornell Ag College???

121 Maybe 1%-ers are more willing to take risks, regardless of what field they are in. I did a search through the article for the word "risk" (and on this post too), and the word curiously never turned up.

122  The problem with this characterization, of course, is not that traders can't display psychopathic behavior -- they can -- but that a psychiatric definition has been placed in a political context. When psychiatry becomes political, deviation from political orthodoxy becomes mental illness. And psychiatrists are only too happy to place themselves at the disposal of the left.

Posted by: joncelli at February 28, 2012 03:59 PM (RD7QR)

 

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This.  ObamaCare.  The doorway leftists/communists need to stamp out all opposition.  This Cannuck just let that cat out of the bag.

123 If I'm not mistaken, and I don't think I am, liberalism is a mental disorder in and of itself.  It's an insult to the sociopaths to lump  a disgustingly vile racist and hard wired thief in with mostly benign  sociopaths.

124 Is it sorta like Cornell Ag College???

No, Cornell Ag College is a great school...for agriculture.

If you're majoring in communications?  Not so much.

125 AmishDude I stand corrected.

126 My first wife told me that I was "emotionally bankrupt". Now if I could just get some of that sweet 1% wealth, I can have it all...

127 There's nothing "Queer" about wanting to ride Kate Upton like a Tilt-A-Whirl. You're in a safe place, and we're behind you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 04:24 PM (Wi8JV)

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Jeff, you forgot to add that we get to watch.

128 "this paper is only available to those who pay to see it."  That is really annoying.  You see some stupid story (like the algae story) being spun from some paylocked article, you drill down thru four or five layers of flackery until you get to the journal site, navigate their nutty every-site-is-different search BS, luck out and find the abstract.  Then you can pay $30-$80 to see whether the article really says what the flacks (who didn't read it either) say it says.  Bleah.

129 >>Nancy Pelosi = Psychopath Vampire Bat

SPECIESIST!!!

130  My first wife told me that I was "emotionally bankrupt". Now if I could just get some of that sweet 1% wealth, I can have it all...

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at February 28, 2012 04:48 PM (Df/CP)

 

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My second wife said I was a drunken asshole.  Somehow the laymen  terms are more descriptive.  I was a drunken asshole.

131

Sociopaths appear in pretty equal proportions across most occupations and lifestyles.

Sure, some bankers are sociopaths.  So are some secretaries, actors, dishwashers, firefighters, teachers, or accountants.

Or Canadian psychiatrists.  Just sayin.

Or ex-wives.  Just sayin that too.

132 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

133 thread heading ... "become compulsive"

C2C Noory has had some excellent interviews regarding the topic recently...

Jonathan Zap http://tinyurl.com/7j2nrb9 Psychopathy Demographics:

Across all eras and societies, approximately one in a hundred men is born a clinical psychopath, and one in three hundred women.  About twenty percent of an average prison population, male or female, is comprised of psychopaths, but amongst the violent offenders it is about fifty percent.  Psychopaths commit more than fifty percent of the serious crimes.  For example, about half of serial rapists are psychopaths. About 25% of wife assaulters are psychopaths. Both male and female psychopaths commit a greater number of crimes, and their crimes tend to be more violent, abusive and predatory than those of other criminals.  They also tend to recidivate earlier and much more often than other criminals. While psychopaths make up about one percent of the population, ten percent of the general population falls into a grey zone with enough psychopathic tendencies to be of significant concern to society.

Dr. Dispenza  http://tinyurl.com/c7hd65 self transformation

William Whitecloud also presented the point that given no "absolute reality" because thoughts and feelings are subjective, to achieve enlightened release from negativity,  work from the "end result orientation" in order to become aware and daily participate in creativity. Rather than over-thinking "how-to" and getting stuck in processing, do imagine the final (loving) end result.

That would align with what Siddhartha came to experience as enlightenment. All the trying and deprivations and self afflictions he attempted in order to torment himself into an enlightened state never brought what he sought. Instead, that gift "became" when he stopped forcing himself through over-thinking the "how-to" processing. In other words, imho, Buddha found enlightenment through end result orientation. 

And yes, of course, Jesus sharing grace and faith while performing "end result orientation" miracles aligns. Repent: change your mind; your faith makes you whole.

And of psychopaths, it took no time at all for Constantine to effect the dehumanization of "the other" gnostic Christians, ordering the assassination of "heretics" who would not forfeit their "end result as Love" orientation for the immediacy of Constantine's Sword. Couldn't afford free will and independent thought in the Roman Empire.

134 This isn't particularly surprising to anyone who has studied psychopaths. They tend to concentrate around the top and the lower area of the income bracket. There aren't many in the middle. Psychopaths have a lot of qualities that let them rise to the top of corporations or succeed in politics, provided they don't self destruct.

And lots of psychopaths like participating in research. Arrogance and narcissism are key factors.

135 A (male) Leftist is a man who tries to think like a woman. A "Sociopath" is a man who succeeds.

136 I think the first time I truly understood what sort of people Leftists are was when I made the mistake of watching "American Psycho." The key question at the end of the highly traumatic experience: not "What sort of person is Bateman" but "What sort of person would write such a book" and worse "What sort of person would make such a movie."

137 I wonder if there is a word for someone who studies psychology not to help the mentally ill, but for other purposes altogether...

138

The ancient Greeks did a lot of good with their thoughts  of democracy.

They screwed up by leaving the psycholgist, psychiatrist,etc. over think.

The best term for people that crazy is insane.

139 "NOTE: I prefer the term "sociopath" to "psychopath", but in the interest of brevity and keeping things simple, I'll use Hare's term herein."

I hope you know that those are two wildly different things...

140 “I think you mean to say that diagnoses of NPD are on the rise.”

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 28, 2012 04:17 PM (puy4B

Yes and no. Diagnoses are indeed on the rise. Some of this may be due to increased awareness on the part of mental health care professionals and the general public. We probably want to avoid making NPD the illness du jour.

But I also think the incidence of NPD is on the rise. E.g., Sigmund Freud seemed to find an unusually high prevalence of hysteria in his patients in Victorian Vienna which may have been produced by the strong emphasis of that time and place on adherence to cultural standards and suppressing expressions of sexuality. Likewise, the cultural tenets of our present era seem to be creating more occurrences of NPD.

141 OK, so we gave this crackpot his 15 minutes. Now can we bitch about something thats actually relevent to anything. I mean really, does anyone listen to this shit for REAL?

142 In summation and from the ever so clever editors of Wikipedia: Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for, or violation of, the rights of others. It is defined in different ways, but can involve a lack of empathy or remorse, false emotions, selfishness, grandiosity or deceptiveness; it can also involve impulsiveness, irritability, aggression, or inability to perceive danger and protect one's self.

Psychopaths lack any true sense of guilt or remorse for harm they may have caused to others. Instead, they rationalize their behavior, blame someone else, or deny it outright. This is seen by psychologists as part of a lack of moral reasoning (in comparison with the majority of humans), an inability to evaluate situations in a moral framework, and an inability to develop emotional bonds with other people.

I image opening the dictionary to the word, psychopath, displays a picture of US DOJ AG, Eric Holder.

If people in the financial industry are 10% more likely to be psychopaths,  endorsers of big government are 90% more likely to be one!