May 08, 2012
— Ace This isn't about the Birth Certificate, but rather Obama -- He Of Several Worlds, as he likes to think of himself -- deciding to construct a more American identity for himself.
The son of a Kenyan father and an American expatriate mother, Obama emerges as a man questioning whether he viewed himself, or wanted to be viewed by others, as an American....Obama had a lot of Pakistani friends; Maraniss writes that if Obama and his girlfriend socialized as a couple, "it was almost always with the Pakistanis." Obama appeared to identify with his friends as fellow non-Americans. "For years when Barack was around them, he seemed to share their attitudes as sophisticated outsiders who looked at politics from an international perspective," Maraniss writes. "He was one of them, in that sense."
But Obama was ambitious. Appalled by the "dirty deeds" of "Reagan and his minions" (as he wrote in "Dreams from My Father"), Obama became increasingly interested in, as Maraniss writes, "gaining power in order to change things." He couldn't do that as an international guy hanging around with his Pakistani friends; he needed to become an American.
So he did...
Mahmood, Maraniss writes, "could see Obama slowly but carefully distancing himself as a necessary step in establishing his political identity as an American."
More at the link, including Hillary consultant Mark Penn's memo noting that Obama's "roots as an American" and attachment to American culture were at best "limited."
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Posted by: Andy at May 08, 2012 07:40 AM (5Rurq)
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at May 08, 2012 07:42 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: sonnyspats at May 08, 2012 07:42 AM (bo11P)
I need minions.
Hmmm, so is this book a tacit admission that there is such a thing as national identity after all? I thought that the whole concept of borders and national character and what not was right wing nonsense
Posted by: alexthechick at May 08, 2012 07:42 AM (VtjlW)
Not quite there yet. Call me when he stops bowing to foreign kings.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 08, 2012 07:43 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 08, 2012 07:43 AM (i6RpT)
Vote for me! I'll make Scarlett Johannson pose nude for Morons!
Posted by: EC at May 08, 2012 07:44 AM (GQ8sn)
Wait, wait...what girlfriend? Was she Pakistani? Is that how he got to go to Pahkeestahn for spring break?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at May 08, 2012 07:44 AM (/kI1Q)
Barry Soetoro was here as an exchange student.
Posted by: Sealed Occidental Records at May 08, 2012 07:44 AM (c3mby)
Heh, I still want to see Mitt submit his birth certificate to Congress, along with a statement that he's complying with our Constitution.
That sound we'd hear of lefty heads 'splodin' would be like the Fourth of July in my neighborhood.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 08, 2012 07:45 AM (d0Tfm)
Minions?! Torgo was a minion. Mini-me was a...minion.
Reagan had some smart fuckin' enforcers...Baker, Sununu, Weinberger, etc. He was like the Bill Walsh coaching tree.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2012 07:45 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 08, 2012 07:45 AM (KCvsd)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 08, 2012 07:46 AM (HethX)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at May 08, 2012 07:46 AM (8y9MW)
sophisticated outsiders who looked at politics from an international perspective
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Stop it, Ace, you're killing me.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 08, 2012 07:46 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: booger at May 08, 2012 07:46 AM (HI6wa)
Posted by: eureka! at May 08, 2012 07:47 AM (xCpfo)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 08, 2012 07:48 AM (r4wIV)
Hmmm, so is this book a tacit admission that there is such a thing as national identity after all? I thought that the whole concept of borders and national character and what not was right wing nonsense.
It is whenever a rightwinger mentions it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 08, 2012 07:48 AM (d0Tfm)
Of all the things he's done and continues to do, I think that's the one that can set my blood to boiling the fastest.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at May 08, 2012 07:48 AM (8y9MW)
Is that when Barky O'DogEater traveled to Pahk-E-Stahn? And with what girlfriend, the Bill Ayers blown-up composite doll?
It's four years too late for these revelations, maybe more time should have been spent turning over rocks in Barky's background instead of going through Sarah Palin's recycle bin.
Posted by: Boots at May 08, 2012 07:48 AM (neKzn)
He is basically a "citizen of the world" and as such, he is unable to see American exceptionalism, and he is unable to embrace the American dream.
Posted by: runningrn at May 08, 2012 07:49 AM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at May 08, 2012 07:49 AM (136wp)
She's another composite. Can't talk, her lips are glued together.
Posted by: Retread at May 08, 2012 07:50 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: soothsayer at May 08, 2012 07:50 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 08, 2012 07:51 AM (i6RpT)
Again, where is this alleged girlfriend? Why isn't she talking?
She's another composite. Can't talk, her lips are glued together.
As a composite, perhaps, they just forgot to give her lips...
Posted by: runningrn at May 08, 2012 07:52 AM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 07:52 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Jedediah Springfield at May 08, 2012 07:52 AM (qPCyi)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at May 08, 2012 07:52 AM (0tRzD)
I'm a little late today so you've already mentioned Mitt has a criminal record?
Ohhh there's some fun for the Horde - top ten Mitt prison nicknames. Also acceptable, top ten Mitt prison tattoos. Go on, all you clever people think of something. Dance for me, puppets! Dance!
Posted by: alexthechick at May 08, 2012 07:52 AM (VtjlW)
Obama's "roots as an American" and attachment to American culture were at best "limited."
The perfect Democrat candidate.
Posted by: wth at May 08, 2012 07:53 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 08, 2012 07:53 AM (i6RpT)
She's another composite. Can't talk, her lips are glued together.
That's the reason why none of The Go-Go's could have children....that joke was hilarious when I was 10.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2012 07:53 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: boniface ballers at May 08, 2012 07:54 AM (l3RZ9)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 08, 2012 07:54 AM (HethX)
OK, let's see what we've got so far: questionable BC, sealed college transcripts, ghost-written autobiographies, compressed girlfriends and now the need to construct an "American" persona.
Sure looks like SCOAMF Boy here has a problem dealing with reality and the truth.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 08, 2012 07:54 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 08, 2012 07:55 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at May 08, 2012 07:55 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: grognard, SMOD-Squad at May 08, 2012 07:55 AM (NS2Mo)
slowly but carefully distancing himself as a necessary step in establishing his political identity as an American
Nice to know it's his POLITICAL identity that's American. His personal identity, mind you, is what a more temperate individual would call "cosmopolitan," but which I call, "Fucking anti-American bastard son of a commie father and a commie-chasing hippie mother dumbass."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b] at May 08, 2012 07:55 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 07:55 AM (136wp)
Have you seen her lately? Growing old sucks.
Posted by: EC at May 08, 2012 07:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 08, 2012 07:56 AM (HethX)
Posted by: EC at May 08, 2012 11:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Yep, hence the past tense. I blame Steven Seagal. But in Weird Science....not possible to be hotter.
Posted by: grognard, SMOD-Squad at May 08, 2012 07:57 AM (NS2Mo)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 08, 2012 07:58 AM (i6RpT)
whoa! this IS something?
Posted by: sonnyspats at May 08, 2012 07:58 AM (bo11P)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 07:59 AM (136wp)
Mitt had "I'm MoreMan, Bitch" tattoo'd on his penis.
Posted by: Heralder at May 08, 2012 07:59 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: nevergiveup at May 08, 2012 07:59 AM (i6RpT)
Oh man, I couldn't stop rubbing one out after it was released on VHS. I could have single-handedly re-grouted the entire Mall of America.
Posted by: EC at May 08, 2012 07:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jean at May 08, 2012 08:00 AM (WkuV6)
Mitt doesn't have prison tats, but he did personally tattoo the words "I will not tease Mormons about 'magic underwear'" onto the forearm of a sobbing, three hundred pound MS13 enforcer he met in the clink. Turns out Mr. Eagle Scout can make a damn good shiv out of a paperclip and a bar of Dial soap.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b] at May 08, 2012 08:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 08:01 AM (136wp)
Posted by: soothsayer at May 08, 2012 08:02 AM (jUytm)
Posted by: dananjcon at May 08, 2012 08:03 AM (eavT+)
And the mayor of Tampa.
Posted by: MSM at May 08, 2012 08:03 AM (bAGA/)
Mitt's prison name:
"Nazi Extremist" or "Hitler" for short.
His tattoo is obviously a swastika with Joseph Smith's head in the middle.
Posted by: runningrn at May 08, 2012 08:03 AM (vJ9tV)
So who's going to write Romney's campaign song: Public Enemy or NWA?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2012 08:03 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at May 08, 2012 12:01 PM (4df7R)
He learned that in the Mormon gang he joined in the clink.
Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at May 08, 2012 08:03 AM (RD7QR)
This infuriates the liberal media who do everything they can to neutralize the thought process.
Posted by: clemenza at May 08, 2012 08:04 AM (fCSfn)
"Evolution into an American"....?
He hates us. ....His 'evolution' was more of a study in how to fool people into thinking that he is 'one of us'.
Out of all the churches in Chicago that there were to choose from....he picked an America-hating one. ....And sat there being a part of that hatred for 20 years.
Posted by: wheatie at May 08, 2012 08:05 AM (g4NO6)
Worlds? I thought he was from another dimension. Which one was it that birthed Cthulhu? Anyhoo, that one.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 08, 2012 08:06 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: dananjcon at May 08, 2012 08:07 AM (eavT+)
If Romney has been to prison doesn't that mean he has more "street cred" than Obama?
I denounce myself.
Posted by: jimmuy at May 08, 2012 08:07 AM (kSaUf)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 08, 2012 08:07 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: runningrn at May 08, 2012 08:08 AM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 08:08 AM (136wp)
This isn't about the Birth Certificate, but
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Yeah, since the BC matter is pretty much settled on the admission by the president in court that the cert he provided is a forgery and can't be used as evidence in the case. And THAT'S why the two forgeries were put out I guess. I had wondered why he'd put out two obvious forgeries, the dumb shits would believe it, and as a forgery it couldn't be used as proof of citizenship in court.
Never mind that the only law enforcement agency to ever investigate it has reported that its a forgery.
Posted by: Jimmah at May 08, 2012 08:08 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 08, 2012 08:08 AM (FB1td)
GIGANTIC Dinosaur HORROR farts caused Global Warming!!!!1111!11!!! during the mesozoic!!!
Link in my URL, because there's a whole lotta vegans out there contributing to the Global warming...INTENTIONALLY!!!
Posted by: Feynmangroupie at May 08, 2012 08:09 AM (oI744)
Obama's Evolution into an American
You know, the MFM has been tossing that "evolution" word around a lot lately. Obama's "evolving" stance on Teh Ghey (FYI, it's wide); the evolving relationship with China; the evolving state of affairs in the Middle East. It's downright Darwinian.
But they sure get pissy when you try and bring "survival of the fittest" into the economic equation.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter [/i][/b] at May 08, 2012 08:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 08, 2012 08:11 AM (Ec6wH)
For me it's his lying... which is to say every time he opens his piehole.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 08, 2012 08:11 AM (eHIJJ)
But they sure get pissy when you try and bring "survival of the fittest" into the economic equation.
...or the discussion of homosexuality.
Posted by: garrett at May 08, 2012 08:12 AM (3aDNe)
I guess that doesn't make me really angry, because you can normally just take the opposite of what he's saying and have the truth. In that way, what he says is an indicator of the truth.
But, dang it, we fought a war over the idea that no one is better than me, and I owe no one the obeisance of a subservient bow.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at May 08, 2012 08:13 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: grognard, SMOD-Squad at May 08, 2012 08:13 AM (NS2Mo)
If Romney has been to prison doesn't that mean he has more "street cred" than Obama?
I denounce myself.
Posted by: jimmuy at May 08, 2012 12:07 PM (kSaUf)
My mother has more street cred than Obama. The man has never been out of the cocoon.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 12:08 PM (136wp)
Both of them are wuss amateurs.
I was once arrested for felony trespass while hunting ducks on a federal waterway. I stepped out of the boat in waders, and when my wader touched the bottom of the (North Platte) river, I had crossed to private property. Landowner reported, pressed charges.
No shit. That was a Federal offense. I used the story on job interviews when answering the "felony" question. I always got hired.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 08, 2012 08:13 AM (Qxe/p)
This actualy brings up somthing I've been wrestling with for awhile...
Is it time to pull America back from the multicultural over extension into world affairs, and get our OWN house in order?
We are giving Oil dollars to a regime that Kills Witches, while not drilling for oil in a Mosquito infected swamp int he arctic...
We give Billions of dollars to people who don't like us, and defend countries whose soldiers are killing us (20% of this years Afgan casulties are by Afgan Police/Soldiers)... yet don't really control our own Southern Border.
We have the highest Business Tax rate in the World, yet Major corporations routinly pay no Fed Taxes...
We have free trade and fair trade agreements with people who laugh at us... yet can't build a dam factory here without Millions spent jumping through 'Green' hoops...
We have MILLIONS of citizense unemployed, yet we are still letting people IN?
And we have enclaves within America, where other cultures are so prevalent, that the American culture almost does not seem to exist.
I don't want full retard Isolationist... but I sure want Americans to start thinking about America... and the culture we have built here...
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 08, 2012 08:13 AM (lZBBB)
^^ this
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at May 08, 2012 08:15 AM (0tRzD)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at May 08, 2012 08:15 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 08:16 AM (136wp)
Dude. You need to visit Alaska. The mosquitoes think deet is a sugar snack.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 08, 2012 08:17 AM (Qxe/p)
Getting America back on its feet after the Carter debacle was a real dirty deed. Fluke Barry, his commie parents and all of his lefty pals. The whole rotten anti-American scum bag bunch of them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 08, 2012 08:18 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at May 08, 2012 12:10 PM (4df7R)
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Yeah. .....Barky even came out with a cutesy little term for that, in order to demonize it...."Social Darwinism".
Liberals claim to love nature and all things 'natural'. ....Can't interfere with nature; that is bad! ....Except when it comes to their own species. Then, 'survival of the fittest' is bad!
Posted by: wheatie at May 08, 2012 08:18 AM (g4NO6)
Posted by: brenttemp at May 08, 2012 08:19 AM (0AX8H)
#26 I don't know about Mary O' Grady's article, but this article from Dorothy Rabinowitz of the WSJ addressed similar issues saying Obama is an alien in the WH."
Thanks! That's the one! I had my female WSJ columnists mixed up! (I knew it wasn't Kimberly Strassel, though!) Thanks! It's a great read, and it's sooo true!
Posted by: runningrn at May 08, 2012 08:19 AM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: clemenza at May 08, 2012 08:20 AM (fCSfn)
Is this the same Dick, aka Darth, Cheney with TWO hearts?
Yes! The one and the same. If you thought those greedy doctors were bad stealing people's feet, they have nothing on that odious, greedy heart hogging Dick Cheney!
OK, gotta make a Target run. Does anyone need anything?
Posted by: runningrn at May 08, 2012 08:21 AM (vJ9tV)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 08, 2012 12:16 PM (136wp)
Me too....
Posted by: Voldemort at May 08, 2012 08:21 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 08, 2012 08:21 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Jimmah at May 08, 2012 12:21 PM (UpwlP)
In the areas we've already drilled? It has....
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 08, 2012 08:23 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 08, 2012 08:23 AM (9eDbm)
Heh. Then I still like 'em better than the Democrats and RINOs. Those bastards just live on forever.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 08, 2012 08:25 AM (eHIJJ)
Wait. They have mosquitoes in the arctic? Who knew?
Dude. You need to visit Alaska. The mosquitoes think deet is a sugar snack.
Posted by: jwb7605 at May 08, 2012 12:17 PM (Qxe/p)
This is TRUE. The bastards only live for a few months, they want EVERY fucking drop of your blood while they do.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at May 08, 2012 12:20 PM (hXJOG)
I heard that they are so thick and viscious, they actually will suck enough blood out of a caribou to kill it.
Posted by: model_1066 at May 08, 2012 08:26 AM (YbQJm)
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Posted by: Sam I Am at May 08, 2012 08:27 AM (ShuAW)
Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 08, 2012 08:29 AM (I/cLr)
Yeah, get me some of that stuff...what's it called?...we used to eat it all the time back in the day....
gummi worms?
Posted by: model_1066 at May 08, 2012 08:30 AM (YbQJm)
133 OK, gotta make a Target run. Does anyone need anything?
**
Oooh ya...they got really good personal pizzas in the freezer section for like 2bucks ea. I have Mrs. dananjcon pick em' up by the dozen.
Posted by: dananjcon at May 08, 2012 08:34 AM (eavT+)
Posted by: radar at May 08, 2012 08:38 AM (eNZFc)
Someone please explain to me where 'nation-building' has ever succeeded?
I will concede the post-WWII Marshall Plan and its MacArthur-in-Japan analog as being unique cases, proving it can work when:
a) The state concerned has a tradition of civil society and secular governance
b) They've been completely and utterly crushed and there really IS no other alternative.
c) The American reconstructive carrot is backed up by a totalitarian (in this case Soviet and subsequently Red Chinese) stick just over the border.
And, of course, even here once the magnitude of the threat from the hammer-and-sickle boys became evident we looked the other way when the postwar German government let a lot of bloody-handed Nazis walk.
So, I repeat: where else has 'nation-building' worked?
The Phillipines post-Spanish-American War?
South Korea?
Grenada?
Bosnia?
One can't really defend how Bush fought the Iraq and Afghan wars. Ten years of lawfare in pursuit of a nation-building fantasy.
Posted by: JEM at May 08, 2012 08:42 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: small town girl at May 08, 2012 08:42 AM (7Dbui)
Sadly, Obama's former girlfriend 'Julia' has no face and therefore cannot speak with you today.
Posted by: BrendaK at May 08, 2012 08:43 AM (t3c3U)
Posted by: NE Moron who can't stand the SCOAMT at May 08, 2012 08:46 AM (R6G5I)
The article supports my notion that maybe someday historians will look back and trade theories as to how the hell a guy like Obama ever got elected President. "The First Black President" who wasn't actually even black?
Then again, close to half the country has had the "American" programmed out of them by our socialist education system, and our commie media. Somehow they manage to sell an economic and political system that provides increasing levels of misery, depending of how fully you embrace it.
Posted by: Optimizer at May 08, 2012 08:49 AM (As94z)
Posted by: toby928© still hoping for the sinecure of Keeper of the Lingerie in Alextopia at May 08, 2012 09:26 AM (NG097)
Yeah. Right.
I got some beachfront property in Arizona for you.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 08, 2012 09:28 AM (exvgC)
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 08, 2012 09:48 AM (xm1A1)
Posted by: baldilocks at May 08, 2012 10:34 AM (6kWFm)
I always expressed a love of country and my wife always told our son that he had the opportunity to be anything he wanted here. That never happened in Barky's formative years, regardless of in what country he physically was located.
Posted by: Mr Chips at May 08, 2012 11:27 AM (0+t/G)
A tepid endorsement of Romney is about right. I'm not sure anybody has any sort of leg tingling going on about him and his sharp crease.
Well, my leg feel asleep while he was on the other day and that was kind of tingling if that counts.
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Lipstick on a pig.
Another book trying to do the impossible.
Posted by: Roy at May 08, 2012 07:39 AM (VndSC)