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July 29, 2012

The NHS and the Opening Ceremonies
— rdbrewer

MailOnline: Hey that thing about the NHS with the nurses, nannies, and bedridden children was pretty weird, wasn't it?

Last night's spectacular $42million, the brainchild of Oscar-winning British director Danny Boyle, included a segment where dozens of skipping nurses and children in pajamas leaping acrobatically on massive hospital beds, with a large 'NHS' displayed.
It was a celebration of Britain's national health service, which has provided free taxpayer-funded health care to everyone in the country since its foundation after the Second World War.
. . .
Before the ceremony, the Slumdog Millionaire director defended his decision to feature the NHS prominently in the show. He told reporters that he chose to feature it because Â‘everyone is aware of how important the NHS is to everybody in this country.Â’
He continued: Â‘One of the core values of our society is that it doesnÂ’t matter who you are, you will get treated the same in terms of health care.Â’
The Commentator executive editor Raheem Kassam was one of many who took to social media to voice their opinions, and tweeted: 'Anyone else realise it wasn't the NHS who tended well to the kids in the Opening Ceremony, it was private nanny, Mary Poppins!'
. . .
Others simply thought the idea of children, nurses, and nannies in an elaborate choreographed dance was simply bizarre.

I don't know about you, but the NHS is not one of the top things that comes to mind when I think of Britain. And when I do think about their healthcare system, nothing good comes to mind. In fact, it's the opposite. I think of the horror stories I've read.

Well, here's another horror story to add to the list: One of Britain's top doctors, Patrick Pullicino, says that they're killing 130,000 people a year in a euthanasia program they call the "Liverpool Care Pathway."

NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial Â‘death pathwayÂ’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.
He claimed there was often a lack of clear evidence for initiating the Liverpool Care Pathway, a method of looking after terminally ill patients that is used in hospitals across the country.
It is designed to come into force when doctors believe it is impossible for a patient to recover and death is imminent.
It can include withdrawal of treatment Â– including the provision of water and nourishment by tube Â– and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours.

Withholding water. That sounds familiar. Last month, a 22 year old man was so desperate for water, he called police. He died, though. I thought it must have been a case of one-off negligence, but withholding water is part of the program. They just did it to the wrong guy that time.

Stories like that are not uncommon.

When I think of Britain, the royal family comes to mind. Knights in armor. Swords. Arthurian legend. Newton. Shakespeare. Eddington. Hobbits. Double-decker buses. Castles and palaces. The full breakfast. Pubs. The music. Gardens. The Tower Bridge. Big Ben. That silly Ferris wheel. The great people. I think of brilliant individuals who have changed the world. And Danny Boyle included some of that. But I do not think of a soviet-style utopia where faceless factory workers hammer away at metal, apparently in service of the state. And a healthcare system where one first has to survive a long waiting period before running the gauntlet in a hospital. It's a shame they let a left-wing hack advocate his narrow, half-baked politics.

I wonder where Danny gets his healthcare.

Plus, the giant baby? Creepy.

Added: From commenter "sunny black":

My third year of medical school I worked at an NHS hospital near Manchester, UK called Stepping Hill. I walk to my Gastro rotation, the doctor is with a patient who had either Crohn's or Ulcerative Colitis, and he decides that the patient needs a colonoscopy. He writes down the plan on a slip, gives it to the patient, and says to him, "Okay, we'll see you in 9 months or so for that colonoscopy."
I was shocked. I was thinking of American patients in Florida where I'm from and what there reaction would be if their physician told them they'd have to wait 9 months to a year to get a procedure done.
That's just one example of how "awesome" the NHS is. It's a big bureaucratic mess.

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Posted by: rdbrewer at 10:54 AM | Comments (216)
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1 Again?

Posted by: iamahaiangttiam at July 29, 2012 10:55 AM (EG6oe)

2 Yes

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 29, 2012 10:55 AM (mFxQX)

3 Ad nausueum comes to mind

Posted by: iamahaiangttiam at July 29, 2012 10:57 AM (EG6oe)

4 NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds,

So that's where they got the NHS beds for the Olympic opening ceremony ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 10:58 AM (X3lox)

5 This post is just like twice baked potatoes.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2012 10:58 AM (BAS5M)

6 If you have cancer and want a new promising drug that the NHS does not offer, even if you obtain and pay for it on you own, the NHS will not treat you. They don't think it is fair that some have access to treatments that others do not. So, you can just fucking die.

Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 10:59 AM (Lia1Q)

7 Its certainly a better thread than one where we get to watch jackasses lose their shit because they can't understand that some people do have a favorable opinion of Palin.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 11:03 AM (GULKT)

8 You look at how many times people in the UK are force to come to the US for treatment and have to pay for it. I knew someone whose kid was born with dwarfism who routinely had to come to the US and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for treatment. Look how many kids in the UK that are born with deformed facial features that can be surgically fixed so they can have a normal life, yet the NHS will not pay for it. Also, they've had to close children's transplant programs because their incompetency was killing too many kids.

Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 11:03 AM (Lia1Q)

9 Those opening ceremonies sucked. Sorry, but they did. That's no place for politics and that was nothing but leftist drivel.

Posted by: Sponge at July 29, 2012 11:05 AM (ExqqC)

10 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:06 AM (6o4Fb)

11 Britain is LONG gone. Let the muzzies have it. Just let the Jews and decent folk go.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2012 11:07 AM (9ErZp)

12 The opening ceremony started good; Bond, Bean, Branagh were great other than that it was crap.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 29, 2012 11:08 AM (ZhEoC)

13 you know, they ignore the euthanasia of the old to trumpet the "children" they help, eh? I bet there's a bunch of untold stories about the number of at risk newborns they kill as well.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 29, 2012 11:08 AM (P2Tu5)

14 10 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 03:06 PM (6o4Fb) It just can't be said enough.

Posted by: Sponge at July 29, 2012 11:09 AM (ExqqC)

I think if I lived in the UK, I'd keep my loved ones in need of anything more than emergency treatment (stitches, broken bones, etc), home like they did in the good old days. At least they can die without being withheld water. What a horrible thing.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 29, 2012 11:10 AM (bMLFV)

16 I just can't wait for the Rio Olympics opening ceremonies. I bet the market for pasties goes through the roof.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 29, 2012 11:11 AM (KugEV)

17 The only good part of the ceremonies was Mike Oldfield. That dude is awesome.

Posted by: Sponge at July 29, 2012 11:11 AM (ExqqC)

18 Holy shitballs....30 years noaa data found to be completly bogus @WUWT....wait didn't we already no this??

Posted by: dananjcon at July 29, 2012 11:11 AM (HrTZs)

19 NHS is not free.

The VAT tax is 20%.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 11:12 AM (MMC8r)

20 WUWT announcement out. A re-analysis of U.S. surface station temperature stations finds that the reported temp trends between 1979 and 2008 were spuriously doubled.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2012 11:12 AM (BAS5M)

21 There are too many fucking riots in the UK. They are a freakin' welfare state yet they still riot. Every G Summit they riot. Last year the entire country rioted and killed because some gangster with a gun was shot. They destroy millions of dollars worth of private property and when the police try to control them, the police are the ones who are charged.

Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 11:12 AM (Lia1Q)

8 I knew someone whose kid was born with dwarfism who routinely had to come to the US and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for treatment.
----

Word

Posted by: Gloin at July 29, 2012 11:12 AM (HPQnO)

23 you know, they ignore the euthanasia of the old to trumpet the "children" they help, eh? I bet there's a bunch of untold stories about the number of at risk newborns they kill as well.
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 29, 2012 03:08 PM (P2Tu5)

The NHS has a strict limit on premies they'll even try to keep alive. There were stories a few years ago about how they just watch the infants die and refuse to do anything, even though AMerican hostpitals regularly saved premies younger than that.

Britain is a sick society. They are reveling in their sickness.

Related in societal sickness: WUWT is out with the press release. 1979-2008 temp increase data was "spuriously" doubled based on temp station siting problems and NOAA screwing around with the data.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:13 AM (X3lox)

24 O/T WUWT has a press release out. Placement matters, it seems. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/29/press-release-2/

Posted by: no good deed at July 29, 2012 11:13 AM (mjR67)

Actually Boyle is wrong. Many hospitals in Britain offer "self funding" treatment. Basically if you want a treatment the NHS has turned you down for or you want treatment faster you can pay for it yourself and get it faster. It's called "self funded" because if you called it tiering alarms bells would be set off and the PC police would come arunning. Two tier medicine is available in Germany, France, most of the Scandinavian countries hell, most of Europe and is seems to works pretty well. Here in Canada we are slowly (and with the aid of the courts which is too bad) are slowly coming around to the need for some private action in the public health sector. The big fight is still to come though and I suspect it will be bloody.

By the by, I wonder where Boyle goes for his healthcare?

Posted by: scr_north at July 29, 2012 11:13 AM (qws2L)

26 Holy shitballs....30 years noaa data found to be completly bogus @WUWT....wait didn't we already no this??
Posted by: dananjcon at July 29, 2012 03:11 PM (HrTZs)

It's the coming publication of the paper and who supports it that is different, I think.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:14 AM (X3lox)

27 I just can't wait for the Rio Olympics opening ceremonies. I bet the market for pasties goes through the roof. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 29, 2012 03:11 PM (KugEV) They're communist now. It'll be a trading of capitalism too.

Posted by: Sponge at July 29, 2012 11:14 AM (ExqqC)

28 >>>16 I just can't wait for the Rio Olympics opening ceremonies. I bet the market for pasties goes through the roof. So, now's the time to invest?

Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 11:14 AM (Lia1Q)

29 When I think of Britain now,I think of bad teeth,dhimmitude,bad food,patients in hospital dying of thirst.

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:15 AM (6o4Fb)

30 In the US, doctors and nurses who kill patients to free up beds are called monsters. And they are locked up with other monsters as soon as possible.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2012 11:15 AM (ENmf2)

31 26 Yeah,if it is their own true believers calling bullshit on it.

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:15 AM (6o4Fb)

32 Trading=trashing in my last comment. Damn shitty iPad.

Posted by: Sponge at July 29, 2012 11:17 AM (ExqqC)

33 When I think of GB, I think of Monty Python's skit about the lads as officers in an African war.. "A tiger? In Africa?" From The Meaning Of Life.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2012 11:18 AM (BAS5M)

34 Or, the Ministry of Silly Walks.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2012 11:19 AM (BAS5M)

35 At least they don't charge the family for the water they don't give patients that die of dehydration.

Posted by: Invictos at July 29, 2012 11:19 AM (OQpzc)

36 One of the core values of our society

That's it. That's it right there. That's what the NHS is now. The secular Left needs to replace religion and what usually happens is they go for group morality.

Hence, morality is defined what the state does.

Moreover, it doesn't matter how poor NHS service is, it's moral.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 11:19 AM (J5tI6)

37 I just can't wait for the Rio Olympics opening ceremonies. I bet the market for pasties goes through the roof.

Yeah, I was thinking that the XXX Olympics were way more appropriate for Rio than London.

Posted by: alexthechick at July 29, 2012 11:19 AM (Gk3SS)

38 "NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday. Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial Â‘death pathwayÂ’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly." Yeah, that dumb Sarah Palin and her talk about death panels. Treating breast cancer patients by giving them a pain pill and withholding serious treatment, is not death panels, it's rationing.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 29, 2012 11:19 AM (V/Aej)

Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 03:12 PM (Lia1Q)

Fuck the Brits

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 29, 2012 11:20 AM (mFxQX)

40 Bloomberg now cutting back on baby bottles. NY York Post: Starting Sept. 3, the city will keep tabs on the number of bottles that participating hospitals stock and use Â— the most restrictive pro-breast-milk program in the nation. Under the city Health DepartmentÂ’s voluntary Latch On NYC initiative, 27 of the cityÂ’s 40 hospitals have also agreed to give up swag bags sporting formula-company logos, toss out formula-branded tchotchkes like lanyards and mugs, and document a medical reason for every bottle that a newborn receives. While breast-feeding activists applaud the move, bottle-feeding moms are bristling at the latest lactation lecture. Â“If they put pressure on me, I would get annoyed,Â” said Lynn Sidnam, a Staten Island mother of two formula-fed girls, ages 4 months and 9 years. Â“ItÂ’s for me to choose.Â”

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:20 AM (6o4Fb)

41 Chav culture.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 29, 2012 11:20 AM (kM30i)

42 Nadal Hussan and all those Gitmo goat fuckers need to be declared Liverpool Care Pathway.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at July 29, 2012 11:20 AM (2IQGd)

43 41

*shakes head*

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 11:24 AM (MMC8r)

44 wonder if he would be so proud afterward?

Posted by: JB1000 at July 29, 2012 03:20 PM (GgDiZ)

I don't know if he would be proud but he would in all probability be dead

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at July 29, 2012 11:24 AM (mFxQX)

45 Brazillian Beach volleyball players in full body suits.... BOOOOOOOO

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 11:25 AM (GULKT)

46 I was disappointed to find that another British icon, Jack The Ripper, had been entirely overlooked in the opening.

Perhaps we'll see him later?

Posted by: gastorgrab at July 29, 2012 11:25 AM (FX38i)

47 45 He'd never get treated by NHS though,he'd probably go to NY.

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:26 AM (6o4Fb)

48 The British navy is now considered a coastal defense force. Priorities.

Posted by: Invictos at July 29, 2012 11:27 AM (OQpzc)

49 46 That's a crime against humanity!

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:27 AM (6o4Fb)

50 There was also no tribute to rum, sodomy and the lash.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 11:28 AM (MMC8r)

51 While breast-feeding activists applaud the move, bottle-feeding moms are bristling at the latest lactation lecture.

Oh I have Opinions about this.

Let's see, so my mother isn't my mother because she adopted me and didn't give birth to me and she also isn't a true, caring, nurturing mother because I was bottle fed instead of breast fed because of the whole adopted thing as well.

Say it to my fucking face, Bloomberg. I dare you. You aren't the only halfling warrior wandering about.

Posted by: alexthechick at July 29, 2012 11:29 AM (Gk3SS)

52 There was also no tribute to rum, sodomy and the lash.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 03:28 PM (MMC8r)

.....................Of course, the muz disapprove of those things.

Posted by: Invictos at July 29, 2012 11:29 AM (OQpzc)

53 the war on milk

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 29, 2012 11:30 AM (kM30i)

54 "Rum, sodomy, the lash, and sodomy." "You said sodomy twice." "We like sodomy."

Posted by: British Sailors at July 29, 2012 11:30 AM (IoNBC)

55 41 Bloomberg now cutting back on baby bottles. Â“If they put pressure on me, I would get annoyed,Â” said Lynn Sidnam, a Staten Island mother of two formula-fed girls, ages 4 months and 9 years. Â“ItÂ’s for me to choose.Â” Um, who did you vote for?

Posted by: rickl at July 29, 2012 11:30 AM (sdi6R)

56 There was also no tribute to rum, sodomy and the lash.
Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 03:28 PM (MMC8r)

.....................Of course, the muz disapprove of those things.
Posted by: Invictos at July 29, 2012 03:29 PM (OQpzc)

The muzzies only disapprove of rum and they prefer beheadings to the lash, though a lash will do in a pinch. They love themselves all sorts of sodomy, though.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:32 AM (X3lox)

57 "We like sodomy."

Posted by: British Sailors at July 29, 2012 03:30 PM (IoNBC)

..................Don't forget the cannibalism.

Posted by: Invictos at July 29, 2012 11:32 AM (OQpzc)

58 Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 03:25 PM (GULKT)

The women will be wearing burkhas by 2016 if the muz have their way!!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 29, 2012 11:33 AM (Cnqmv)

59 46 Brazillian Beach volleyball players in full body suits.... BOOOOOOOO Aaaannnddd now I'm googling Brazilian beach volleyball players....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2012 11:33 AM (GEICT)

60 Look how many kids in the UK that are born with deformed facial features that can be surgically fixed so they can have a normal life, yet the NHS will not pay for it. ------------------------------------------- Oh, but they'll pay for late-term abortions when those "grave" abnormalities like cleft lip, cleft palette and club foot are detected by ultrasound. See how compassionate they are to people with disabilities? They'll put them through a garbage disposal, but good luck with the fairly routine, safe, simple procedure to correct those issues.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 29, 2012 11:34 AM (FIYvq)

Well, sodomy and the lash. They are all in.

The Muslims don't approve of rum.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at July 29, 2012 11:34 AM (sJTmU)

bloomberg needs to go.

huffpo has an article adressing this a couple of days ago.

many , (weird)advocating for no water or nourishment as failing organs don't process correctly. I would think that caring infromative caregivers would know which cases are which and not have standing orders for one size would fit All dieing either withholding or hydrating patients . i spose not having to actually pay attention to the dieing is easier.

anyway i question their motives over all.

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:35 AM (TomZ9)

63 While breast-feeding activists applaud the move, bottle-feeding moms are bristling at the latest lactation lecture. --------------------------------- So...this is pro-choice?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 29, 2012 11:35 AM (FIYvq)

"Free tax-payer funded health care"

Free?

Tax-payer funded?

Is is one way or another?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at July 29, 2012 11:36 AM (sJTmU)

dying*

sowwy

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:36 AM (TomZ9)

66 Nope, sorry, it is no longer for you to choose Lynn Sidnam. Your betters will be choosing for you now in every aspect of your life. Nurse those babies yourself. Or else.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at July 29, 2012 11:36 AM (RZ8pf)

67 Jenny It is pro the choice They want you to make.

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:37 AM (TomZ9)

68 Related in societal sickness: WUWT is out with the press release. 1979-2008 temp increase data was "spuriously" doubled based on temp station siting problems and NOAA screwing around with the data.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

Why is Watts going jihadi on the comments that seem to summarize the findings in that manner?

Watts Up His Butt?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 29, 2012 11:37 AM (5FvTK)

69 said Lynn Sidnam, a Staten Island mother of two formula-fed girls, ages 4 months and 9 years.

In her case, I agree with Bloomberg. A 9-year-old shouldn't be on formula.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 11:38 AM (MMC8r)

70 buzzion, that's because it's about 900 degrees colder in London than where they train. Crying shame, really.

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 11:38 AM (uvKdl)

71 This breast or bottle ; chick a fil. soda, salt, donuts , is really bringng out the fascist in so many.

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:38 AM (TomZ9)

72

Los Angeles Olympics 1984: Real Jet Pack made in the USA, worn by a proper rocket-man.

London Olympics 2012: Fake Jet Packs, worn by epicene dancers done up in shiny purple glitter suits, swanning about on wires.

Says it all, really....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 29, 2012 11:39 AM (kdS6q)

73 Old people get infections, become dehydrated and confused. You stick an IV in them, rehydrate them, and give them IV antibiotics. They get better and you send them home. It's really that simple...

Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 11:39 AM (Lia1Q)

74 74 Old blighters aren't worth the effort really.Hooking up IV's and what not.

Posted by: NHS death panel chap at July 29, 2012 11:41 AM (6o4Fb)

75 In her case, I agree with Bloomberg. A 9-year-old shouldn't be on formula. Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 03:38 PM (MMC8r) ------------------------------------ I agree. 9-year-olds should be breast-fed, perhaps on the cover of Time Magazine.

Posted by: Strident Lactivist at July 29, 2012 11:41 AM (FIYvq)

76 Read the WUWT press release. My summary.

NOAA data cooked:

+0.309 deg C / decade vs.
+0.155 deg C / decade

using ISO standard.

Posted by: qwerty at July 29, 2012 11:41 AM (kAL0R)

77 FTSB The S&W 357 vid. Besides being a puss, the second guy can't aim for shit. I could see he was going to miss high before he even pulled. I'm not sure that two of the rounds even stayed on the range.

Posted by: toby928© at July 29, 2012 11:42 AM (QupBk)

Thanks to those who summarized Watts' news. I was having trouble parsing it. So basically, NOAA has been adjusting temps upward making it look like there's been more warming then there actually has been? And everyone who has been writing papers etc. based on that data has come to the wrong conclusion?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at July 29, 2012 11:43 AM (RZ8pf)

Little known fact (even in the UK) re the NHS: it was founded with use of Marshall Plan funds. The Labour government of Clement Atlee pushed for the Marshall Plan, and then used the money to found the NHS and to construct public housing (tower blocks, i.e., projects) that are now being dynamited. So the UK directed its Marshall Plan funds to consumption.

Upshot: the UK's economy labored (sorry) for years after the war.

The Germans, on the other hand, still under Allied governance, invested their considerably smaller Marshall Plan funds in rebuilding their economic base.

Upshot: the Wirtschaftswunder.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 11:44 AM (Kfw/V)

80 huffpo has an article adressing this a couple of days ago.
many , (weird)advocating for no water or nourishment as failing organs don't process correctly. I would thinkthat caring infromative caregivers would know which cases are which and not have standing orders for one size would fit All dieing either withholding or hydrating patients . i spose not having to actually pay attention to the dieing is easier.
anyway i question their motives over all.

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 03:35 PM (TomZ9)

That was hurtful, I am going to have to file a grievance with the union.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at July 29, 2012 11:44 AM (1grxW)

81 Just from the Daily Mail headlines (Google Daily Mail: NHS death): Top doctor's chilling claim: The NHS kills off 130000 NHS death rates four times higher than US More than 800 babies die every year because of the appalling state of maternity care in the NHS, NHS starves man to death NHS causes 40000 deaths a year NHS trust fined Â£500,000 after female care worker was stabbed to death by dangerous bipolar patient 'who never should have been sent to care home' Retired teacher died after 'below standard' treatment at NHS hospital Devastated couple blame NHS budget cuts for death of their baby boy after doctors refused to deliver him on the weekend Hospital death rates go up by 8 per cent when junior doctors start their jobs in what a top NHS executive has labelled a 'killing season'. The NHS caused or contributed to the deaths of at least 74 patients through lack of basic care in the past ten years ________________________ And those are the first page of hits with only the repeats skipped. The NHS is an absolute disaster

Posted by: TomB at July 29, 2012 11:44 AM (SNxYz)

82 Paranoid in this case it seems like location , location, locations remains true.

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:45 AM (TomZ9)

83 PGIS, basically yes. Since in that 30 year span they have doubled the actual reading.

Weft, I read the comments when there was 16. Watts was busy telling some to read the article before commenting. In other other words, open mind before opening mouth.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 29, 2012 11:45 AM (ENmf2)

84 82

But it's FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 11:46 AM (MMC8r)

19NHS is not free.

The VAT tax is 20%.

You're right, the NHS is not free, but it is paid for through national insurance, not the VAT.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 11:47 AM (Kfw/V)

86 Withholding water. That sounds familiar. Last month, a 22 year old man was so desperate for water, he called police. He died, though.

He called the police? Dude should have been told that he'd been logged onto the "Liverpool Care Pathway." And there are no cops on the Liverpool Care Pathway.

Posted by: Cicero at July 29, 2012 11:47 AM (zMouK)

ugh, i'm so tired. sorry for all the typos and spelling errors, oh and grammar , an...

nevermind.

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 11:47 AM (TomZ9)

88 Sorry, to be clear, national insurance is a FICA like deduction from earnings that appears on every paycheck.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 11:47 AM (Kfw/V)

89 71 buzzion, that's because it's about 900 degrees colder in London than where they train.

Crying shame, really.

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 03:38 PM (uvKdl)

Yeah I know its because of weather considerations. And to that I still say BOOOOOO!!!

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 11:48 AM (GULKT)

90 So the temp. Data was bad, no kidding. Kinda funny that I am at Laguna Seca for Moto GP and they just ran a race with battery powered engines. Go pretty fast but kinda like watching a sci-fi movie the way they sound.

Posted by: California Witch at July 29, 2012 11:49 AM (VbHQA)

91 Why is Watts going jihadi on the comments that seem to summarize the findings in that manner?

Watts Up His Butt?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2012 03:37 PM (5FvTK)

I haven't read them. I looked at the first few with his "read the paper" response and downloaded the paper. I'm going to read through it tonight. As far as I can tell, he's just using a new site remediation method on old data and justifiably implying that the writers of old papers having shown that site problems led to no mean temp increase in readings will have to accept that their old data analyzed with the improved method (developed by the same guy as the accepted older method) do indeed show serious temp perversions and mean increases in readings. Watt was one of the co-authors of one of those older papers and he specifically mentions Muller of Berkeley, but I don't know those papers or people to know the whole story.

I don't think this will have the Earth-shattering effect Watts thinks, unless he thinks that Muller and Menne (I have no idea who he is or what his position is) are forced to accept the new analyses and will publicly do so, but I'm still very fuzzy about what all is going on with this particular announcement.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 11:50 AM (X3lox)

92 huffpo has an article adressing this a couple of days ago.
many , (weird)advocating for no water or nourishment as failing organs don't process correctly. I would thinkthat caring infromative caregivers would know which cases are which and not have standing orders for one size would fit All dieing either withholding or hydrating patients . i spose not having to actually pay attention to the dieing is easier.
anyway i question their motives over all.

Posted by: willow at July 29, 2012 03:35 PM (TomZ9)

We have received a grievance filed by one of our members. Please refrain from attacking this honourable employee of our NHS.

Posted by: Nurse's Union, SEIU Local 8669 at July 29, 2012 11:52 AM (1grxW)

93 I know you knew, buzz. The broader point I should have made is that the beach volleyball venue should ALWAYS be in Brazil regardless of where the Games are held.

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 11:52 AM (uvKdl)

94 19NHS is not free.

The VAT tax is 20%.

But you have to pay the tax, anyway, even if you don't use the NHS. So, when you use it it's free!

Posted by: Typical Libtard at July 29, 2012 11:53 AM (X3lox)

95 yeah, their birth rate numbers don't include high risk, premies.

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 29, 2012 11:53 AM (P2Tu5)

96 "Liverpool Care Pathway"

Some days it's got to suck being a fiction writer when reality is already there...

Posted by: KG at July 29, 2012 11:54 AM (IPz9m)

97 O/T, but I have a routine, I hope, colonoscopy tomorrow early.

The prep is new to me from previous. Ducolax pills, 4 each, Miralax liquid, 8 oz of the shit mixed with a gallon of Gatorade. Then wait for it.

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at July 29, 2012 11:54 AM (PH+2B)

98 BREAKING;NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg calls for ban of salt firing fly killer gun and ammunition.

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:54 AM (6o4Fb)

99 I thought I couldn't hate Bloomberg more. My kids had to be bottle fed, no matter what my wife tried. My wife and I were all pro-breastfeeding, read books, had consultants - the whole deal. After a long, painful time, we finally concluded that not every women can breastfeed.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at July 29, 2012 11:55 AM (3PHCO)

100 98 Geez,you'll blow you colon out before the colonoscopy.

Posted by: steevy at July 29, 2012 11:55 AM (6o4Fb)

101
"It was a celebration of Britain's national health service, which has provided free taxpayer-funded health care to everyone in the country since its foundation after the Second World War."

I wonder if the doofus realized what he was saying?

Posted by: YIKES! at July 29, 2012 11:56 AM (0xil9)

102 Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 03:48 PM (GULKT) http://tinyurl.com/ccs5bgt

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2012 11:57 AM (GEICT)

103

The prep is new to me from previous. Ducolax pills, 4 each, Miralax liquid, 8 oz of the shit mixed with a gallon of Gatorade. Then wait for it.

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Any minute now ... blastoff! You'll be doing your Mt. St. Helens impression.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 11:57 AM (Kfw/V)

104 **19NHS is not free. The VAT tax is 20%.** lolz, just paying your fair share, wignuts!!!!! What do you think, England existed without public roads and free health care? No, it's like Elizabeth Warren said, King George paved America in order to make us prosperous. Srsly though, do these roads&firefighters=prosperity types not understand that a lot of things we use are private from the railroads to fed ex today?

Posted by: joeindc44 at July 29, 2012 11:57 AM (P2Tu5)

105

Caption contest entry for the Queen's photo:

"Christ, what a bunch of wankers I have for subjects."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 11:58 AM (Kfw/V)

106 86
19NHS is not free.

The VAT tax is 20%.

You're right, the NHS is not free, but it is paid for through national insurance, not the VAT.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 03:47 PM (Kfw/V)

You do know that is bullshit. Government receipts are fungible. Those who say the receipts from the lottery will only be used for education just take funds that would have been used for education to use for food stamps and replace them with the lottery receipts.

Posted by: MrCaniac at July 29, 2012 11:59 AM (1grxW)

107 Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at July 29, 2012 03:54 PM (PH+2B)

Make sure your no farther than 3 inches away from the toilet.
I hope everything goes well for you tomorrow.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 29, 2012 11:59 AM (0xil9)

108 Another insidious aspect of having regulation like this where people are ushered into the next life is that by definition no one decent can hold the job of nurse. You have to get psychopaths, or at least people with extremely flexible morals and no empathy, to hold those jobs. It is the same problem we have with the drug laws, lemonade stand laws etc... in the US. You get only the lowliest scum of humanity in those positions because any decent person would rebel and refuse to do the things the law requires.

This is one aspect of over-regulating that is often overlooked. Not only do you get a greater quantity of laws but you get lesser quality when it comes to the people tasked with enforcing those laws. Eventually it reaches a point to where there is no real difference between the mafioso and the regulators.

As far as the Olympics goes, you know when you start getting propaganda at sporting events that your country is lost. I turned to my wife and asked her if I had misunderstood and the Olympics were actually being held in North Korea this year. And what the hell was the deal with the gigantic, freakish baby in the middle of the arena that scared my kid? My daughter also asked my where they got all of the sick kids and why they made them go to the arena. I really couldn't explain what the hell they were trying to do or why they would have healthy kids pretend to be sick at a sporting event.

Posted by: Voluble at July 29, 2012 12:00 PM (qYvEa)

109 The Queen does not look amused.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 29, 2012 12:00 PM (kM30i)

110 In unrelated news, I just made three perfect grilled cheese sammiches in a row. I'm like in a grill cheese zone. Too bad I'm full now.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 12:02 PM (GZitp)

111 The Queen does not look amused.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 29, 2012 04:00 PM (kM30i)

That's because I'm stuck with pink skinned, jugged eared pillock of a son.

Posted by: The Queen as in not Freddie Mercury at July 29, 2012 12:04 PM (0xil9)

112 Dr. Varno, ten bucks says she's constipated

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 12:05 PM (uvKdl)

113 If they admit to 130,000 each year, I am willing to bet it is probably 500,000! The only good part of the show was the Queen, the poor woman looked bored. I am sure she looked like that to hide the sick feeling she felt watching that trash,

Posted by: CarolT at July 29, 2012 12:05 PM (z4WKX)

114

Srsly though, do these roads&firefighters=prosperity types not understand that a lot of things we use are private from the railroads to fed ex today?

I got this argument from the liberal friend yesterday, in response to my snark about the $44 MM the People's Republic of California spent on building a one-mile passenger rail segment between two undeveloped places ("if you build it, they will come"). Total transit time between the termini: five minutes. Srsly.

His arguments included: CA now had the political will (aka stupidity) to do this project, part of the money came from the Feds (it's OK to waste your money if you're also wasting someone else's), that over time the ridership (currently 150 / day; curiosity seekers, I'm thinking) would increase. He then segued into the need for police and fire (who brought that up?), the need to repair roads (ditto), and concluded that we'd all be riding bicycles without such spending (huh? I thought libs were all about cycling and such).

I declined to point out that the Feds contribution only goes to capital costs, not operating costs. So we're stuck with a white elephant that will continue to bleed money for the forseeable future.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 12:05 PM (Kfw/V)

115 35, AmishDude. Very true. The Brits I know grouse and moan about the NHS but yes, for them, morality is defined by the actions of the state.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 29, 2012 12:06 PM (0Db2g)

116 I mean, that's how I look like when I'm constipated. TMI?

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 12:06 PM (uvKdl)

117 Someone must have farted in her general direction.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 29, 2012 12:07 PM (kM30i)

118 Another insidious aspect of having regulation like this where people are ushered into the next life is that by definition no one decent can hold the job of nurse. You have to get psychopaths, or at least people with extremely flexible morals and no empathy, to hold those jobs. ------------------------- You're right...all the sadists will become nurses instead of dentists.

Posted by: Steve Martin in Little Shop of Horrors at July 29, 2012 12:07 PM (FIYvq)

119 You do know that is bullshit. Government receipts are fungible.

Posted by: MrCaniac at July 29, 2012 03:59 PM (1grxW)

Yeah, I share your general cynicism, but I accept that it is possible that the different pots of money are not commingled. (Possible, but not likely.) I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, since I don't know for a fact that they commingle the funds.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 12:08 PM (Kfw/V)

120 When Sir Paul 's wife Linda developed breast cancer, the NHS was there to provide the best possible care to treat her awful affliction. Did'nt they? Because it "doesn't matter who you are, you get treated the same in terms of health care". Right?

Posted by: deepred at July 29, 2012 12:16 PM (ef1qd)

121 Sitemeter is working again. But now there are two meters at the bottom.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 12:19 PM (GULKT)

122 Mr Bean was the only highlight. And wtf, no Doctor Who?

Posted by: CAC at July 29, 2012 12:21 PM (31tFZ)

123 So this is how the world will end?

Not with a bang, but a pile of HTML?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 29, 2012 12:21 PM (5FvTK)

124

How much different is this from the choreographed Celebrations of State probably airing right now somewhere in North Korea?

On that level, the NHS thing is creepy.

On the matter of polluting yet another event with left-wing politics, it's pathetic.

Posted by: CJ at July 29, 2012 12:24 PM (9G+G5)

125 123 Mr Bean was the only highlight.

And wtf, no Doctor Who?

Posted by: CAC at July 29, 2012 04:21 PM (31tFZ)

Well Mary Poppins might be a Time Lord.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 12:24 PM (GULKT)

126 89

Okay, thanks for the correction. I'd always assumed that the VAT was a specific tax re: NHS.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 12:24 PM (MMC8r)

127 Yeah, I share your general cynicism, but I accept that it is possible that the different pots of money are not commingled. (Possible, but not likely.) I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, since I don't know for a fact that they commingle the funds.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at July 29, 2012 04:08 PM (Kfw/V)

Rule number one of government funding, never give them the benefit of the doubt. If Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare's taxes get commingled here, then taxes get commingled everywhere.

Just to think, I would lose my professional license for doing what the government that licenses me for.

Posted by: MrCaniac at July 29, 2012 12:25 PM (1grxW)

128 And wtf, no Doctor Who? Posted by: CAC

They played the Tardis SFX amongst the shitty disco inferno.

(heh, 'tardis')

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 29, 2012 12:25 PM (5FvTK)

129 In unrelated news, I just made three perfect grilled cheese sammiches in a row. I'm like in a grill cheese zone. Too bad I'm full now.

-------------------------

Just out of curiosity, how does one fuck up a grilled-cheese sandwich? And often enough that three successes in a row is notable?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 29, 2012 12:26 PM (celt+)

130
Am I unpatriotic for rooting for the bikini-clad Argentine volleyballers instead of our girls? My penis recognizes no national boundaries.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 29, 2012 12:29 PM (celt+)

131 Posted by: deepred at July 29, 2012 04:16 PM (ef1qd)

She was also a vegetarian had line ready to eat vegetarian meals and for what?
Contrast with Sir Winston Churchill who lived to the ripe old age of 90 starting his day with a brandy and cigar.

Posted by: YIKES! at July 29, 2012 12:29 PM (0xil9)

132 Just out of curiosity, how does one fuck up a grilled-cheese sandwich? And often enough that three successes in a row is notable?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 29, 2012 04:26 PM (celt+)

Making perfect grilled cheese sandwiches is different than just not fucking them up. I stand with lowandslow ... even though I just nuked a 3/4 pound burger and LOVE IT!! It has extra-extra super hot sauce on it, though, so ... that helps everything (even perfect grilled cheese sandwiches).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 12:30 PM (X3lox)

133 Just out of curiosity, how does one fuck up a grilled-cheese sandwich? And often enough that three successes in a row is notable? Easy, over or under cooked. An edible grilled cheese? That's no biggie. But perfection? That slight browning with the cheese melted just right? That's skill.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2012 12:30 PM (GEICT)

134 (heh, 'tardis')

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2012 04:25 PM (5FvTK)

Nobody goes full on tardis.

Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at July 29, 2012 12:31 PM (1grxW)

135 Am I unpatriotic for rooting for the bikini-clad Argentine volleyballers instead of our girls? My penis recognizes no national boundaries. Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 29, 2012 04:29 PM (celt+) --------------------------------------- Not unpatriotic, but not that smart, either, if you want the hot ones to win...you'll have a much better shot if they lose and their self-esteem dips a little.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at July 29, 2012 12:33 PM (FIYvq)

136 "Just out of curiosity, how does one fuck up a grilled-cheese sandwich? And often enough that three successes in a row is notable?"

You've never seen me cook, I can fuck up toast.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 29, 2012 12:35 PM (GZitp)

137 "Mitt Romney shrugged off the suggestion he would like a do-over on his controversial comments about the London Olympics, stating that he says what he "actually believes." - ABC News

Hmm. Maybe the Olympic "gaffe" wasn't so gaffetastic after all. If presented with an opportunity of demonstrating that you tell what you "actually believe" in an arena where no voters are congregated to be potentially butt-hurt, why not capitalize? Craft an image as a truth-teller -- not like a pandering SCoaMF that demands do-overs even for the Kiss-Cam level of inconsequence -- with little to no ballot-box blowback, and therefore little temptation to flip-flop as is previous reputation.

Posted by: sistrum at July 29, 2012 12:35 PM (AyryN)

138 Not unpatriotic, but not that smart, either, if you want the hot ones to win...you'll have a much better shot if they lose and their self-esteem dips a little. But if they win, they'll be celebrating. "Olympic gold?!? That deserves tequila! Bartender!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 29, 2012 12:36 PM (GEICT)

139 138 "Mitt Romney shrugged off the suggestion he would like a do-over on his controversial comments about the London Olympics, stating that he says what he "actually believes." - ABC News

Hmm. Maybe the Olympic "gaffe" wasn't so gaffetastic after all. If presented with an opportunity of demonstrating that you tell what you "actually believe" in an arena where no voters are congregated to be potentially butt-hurt, why not capitalize? Craft an image as a truth-teller -- not like a pandering SCoaMF that demands do-overs even for the Kiss-Cam level of inconsequence -- with little to no ballot-box blowback, and therefore little temptation to flip-flop as is previous reputation.

Posted by: sistrum at July 29, 2012 04:35 PM (AyryN)

You know they always mention the "gaffe" but they never seem to ever include the supposed gaffe.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 12:39 PM (GULKT)

140 When do the real Olympic sports start? I mean, I know we had some swimming, but none of that was aired live. All I've watched so far was 2 minutes of a water polo match but that sucked shit.

On the bright side, I can recommend the movie Dream House. Very interesting and the weird part is that it's even better the second time after you know what the story is all about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 12:39 PM (X3lox)

141 Finally saw "The Dark Knight Rises," which should be subtitled "Batman Kicks the Occupiers' Asses."

A wonderful film, enjoyed every minute of it.

And Gary Oldman is the man.

Posted by: Palandine at July 29, 2012 12:42 PM (g7D8V)

142 The Brits' opening ceremonies make me sort of regret that Chicago didn't get the Olympics in '18, or whenever. I'm picturing a pageant of Chicago values, starting with a synchronized drill team of pin-striped Capones with violin cases and ending with the Chick Fil-A being chased from the field by pitchfork-wielding gays and city aldermen.

Could've been cool.

Posted by: Cicero at July 29, 2012 12:43 PM (zMouK)

143 Remember the 90's and GARY SCHANDLING????

ME NEITHER.

Posted by: weft plover [/i] [/b] at July 29, 2012 12:44 PM (5FvTK)

144 "When I think of Britain, the royal family comes to mind."

World-wide domination of the Seas, following the defeat of the Spanish Armada. "The Sun Never Sets Upon the British Empire". Lots of people think these are things we need to forget about the Brutal British, but the fact remains that the feats in those days of a small island nation were absolutely extraordinary.

The British Monarchial system - for all its non-democratic trappings, created the freest, most productive culture (which includes the USA) in the history of the World. The like will not soon again be seen upon the face of the Earth.

Wonder why.

Posted by: A One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at July 29, 2012 12:45 PM (eMtQ2)

145 I liked how the glowing bed sheets represented the souls of all the patients who had dies in those beds. And then, when all those Mary Poppins ladies asked who killed them all, they're beds spelled out, "NHS." Yeah, that was cool.

Posted by: Dang at July 29, 2012 12:47 PM (Ky1+e)

146 141 When do the real Olympic sports start? I mean, I know we had some swimming, but none of that was aired live. All I've watched so far was 2 minutes of a water polo match but that sucked shit.

On the bright side, I can recommend the movie Dream House. Very interesting and the weird part is that it's even better the second time after you know what the story is all about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 04:39 PM (X3lox)

Why here is the schedule!!

8pm Matt Lauer competes in the "Full on Cockgobbling of the SCOAMF

10pm Hoda Kotb competes in the "Most Toned Arms since MO" that will have MO as the judge and commentator.

8am Monday All of our anchors will take part in the "Who Can say the most outrageous thing about Sarah Palin Contest" Martin Bashir is the early favorite.

10am "Drinking With Ed Schultz", watch as Ed wins the Gold silver and bronze.

12noon "The Jim Lahey Contest", watch as the tingle down Chris Matthews leg is shown to be just Chris pissing himself because he fell short in the Drinking with Ed Schultz.

Posted by: Meredith Viera at July 29, 2012 12:47 PM (1grxW)

147 142 Finally saw "The Dark Knight Rises," which should be subtitled "Batman Kicks the Occupiers' Asses."

A wonderful film, enjoyed every minute of it.

And Gary Oldman is the man.

Posted by: Palandine at July 29, 2012 04:42 PM (g7D8V)

Yeah after watching it I think Nolan completely played Hathaway and her support for Occupiers in the portrayal of Catwoman. Such a sucker.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 12:47 PM (GULKT)

148 Remember the 90's and GARY SCHANDLING????

ME NEITHER.

Posted by: weft plover at July 29, 2012 04:44 PM (5FvTK)

Schandling had a great joke. He said, "You know the difference between men and women? A guy picks up a girl at a bar and takes her home. They're going hot and heavy and getting undressed and the girl is thinking, 'I can't believe I'm doing this ... I don't even know this guy ...' while the guy is thinking, 'I can't believe I'm doing this! I don't even know this girl!!!'"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 12:47 PM (X3lox)

149 The Olympics aren't worth watching, much less talking about.

Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading at July 29, 2012 12:48 PM (5y+yw)

150 Finally saw "The Dark Knight Rises," which should be subtitled "Batman Kicks the Occupiers' Asses."

A wonderful film, enjoyed every minute of it.

And Gary Oldman is the man.
Posted by: Palandine

We need a spoiler alert thread to discuss that movie. One of the most conservative movies I've ever seen.

Posted by: Dang at July 29, 2012 12:48 PM (Ky1+e)

151 141 When do the real Olympic sports start? I mean, I know we had some swimming, but none of that was aired live. All I've watched so far was 2 minutes of a water polo match but that sucked shit.

On the bright side, I can recommend the movie Dream House. Very interesting and the weird part is that it's even better the second time after you know what the story is all about.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 04:39 PM (X3lox)

Until they let me compete in wrestling, these are not the best in the world. Whooooooooo!

Posted by: Ric Flair at July 29, 2012 12:49 PM (1grxW)

152

Posted by: Ric Flair at July 29, 2012 04:49 PM (1grxW)

Nice sock.

Oh, yeeeaaahhh!

Posted by: Zombie Macho Man Randy Savage at July 29, 2012 12:50 PM (hwmWo)

153
Posted by: Ric Flair at July 29, 2012 04:49 PM (1grxW)

Nice sock.
Oh, yeeeaaahhh!

Posted by: Zombie Macho Man Randy Savage at July 29, 2012 04:50 PM (hwmWo)

Pussies.

Posted by: Ken Patera at July 29, 2012 12:52 PM (X3lox)

154 As long as we are bitching and moaning, I didn't care for contemporary UK being represented by two minority teens finding each other (but at least they were not same sex). Are these the descendants of Boudicca, St. George, Henry V, Admiral Lord Nelson, the Duke of Wellington, and Churchill?

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2012 12:53 PM (04fgZ)

155 No love for the Reds going for their 10th straight win? 6 on the road. I haven't seen greatness in baseball like this since 1990.

Posted by: MrCaniac for the Reds at July 29, 2012 12:55 PM (1grxW)

156 Did WATTS make his epic announcement??

Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading at July 29, 2012 12:56 PM (lIApU)

157 Pussies.

Posted by: Ken Patera at July 29, 2012 04:52 PM (X3lox)

Roid head.

Posted by: Tony Atlas from Roanoke, VA at July 29, 2012 12:57 PM (1grxW)

158 We'll do much better the the UK.

Really our national health system will be really peachy keen.

Posted by: Justice Roberts at July 29, 2012 12:57 PM (3ZjAP)

159 Did WATTS make his epic announcement??

Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading at July 29, 2012 04:56 PM (lIApU)

Yep. And it hasn't been covered by anyone of note. I don't think Drudge has even given it a link.

Watts has a paper coming out that uses a new, more accurate method of temperature site remediation (developed by the guy whose old method was widely accepted and used) that proves using old data from previously published papers that global mean temps have been goosed from 1979 to 2008.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 01:01 PM (X3lox)

160 I don't know for a fact that they commingle the funds --- I assume "fungible" means "stolen by Democrats."

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2012 01:02 PM (04fgZ)

161 157
Did WATTS make his epic announcement??
Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading

Looks like a long paper on temp gathering stations placement and how it has affected record keeping. In short, the numbers were cooked by putting temp monitoring stations in parking lots and crap like that in order to get nice, toasty numbers.

Posted by: Dang at July 29, 2012 01:02 PM (Ky1+e)

162 I take it that this paper will not be published in any science journals?

Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading at July 29, 2012 01:03 PM (8sdr0)

163 @ 160, You mean he doesn't include weather stations positioned at the ends of airport runways that regularly get blasted with jet engine exhaust?

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 01:04 PM (uvKdl)

164 Bob Dole cannot wait for National Health care. Bob Dole will benefit from it. Bob Dole is sure of it.

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 29, 2012 01:05 PM (jucos)

165 Dark Knight Rises was a steaming pile of shit. Not because of conservative/liberal/OWS stuff, but due to basic failures in pretty much every scene. Would be great for Red Letter Media guy to take it apart.

Posted by: KG at July 29, 2012 01:06 PM (IPz9m)

166 Wow! The liars on the eco-left must have caught wind of WUWT's story and doubled down on Richard Mullers's bullshit in te NYT today

http://tinyurl.com/clzcxd5

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 29, 2012 01:06 PM (Yhu4q)

167 Dark Knight Rises was a steaming pile of shit. Not because of conservative/liberal/OWS stuff, but due to basic failures in pretty much every scene. Would be great for Red Letter Media guy to take it apart.

They liked it.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 01:06 PM (J5tI6)

168 The only way I see them making field hockey exciting is if they played topless.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2012 01:06 PM (jucos)

169 yes but how does Watts explain this new phenomena of thunderstorms? and drought? we never had droughts before. and floods?

Posted by: soothsayer jumps in without reading at July 29, 2012 01:08 PM (lIApU)

170 They liked it.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 05:06 PM (J5tI6)

Too bad. I liked the guy.

Posted by: KG at July 29, 2012 01:08 PM (IPz9m)

171 I assume "fungible" means "stolen by Democrats."

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2012 05:02 PM (04fgZ)

Who puts the "fun" in "fungible?"

Democrats do.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2012 01:09 PM (BAS5M)

172 You mean he doesn't include weather stations positioned at the ends of airport runways that regularly get blasted with jet engine exhaust?
Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 05:04 PM (uvKdl)

Heh. He does mention "airport tarmac". Mostly the new method takes the size and area of heat sources and sinks around temperature measuring sites. The old method seemed to only take proximity into account.

There were 3 papers done with the old method (one by Watts, himself, as co-author) that showed no change in mean temperature readings when these sources and sinks were taken into account but the new method when applied to the data in the old papers shows quite a different story - a doubling of perceived, but fake, warming from 1979 through 2008.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 01:09 PM (X3lox)

173 Looks like a long paper on temp gathering stations placement and how it has affected record keeping. The WUWT announcement reminds me of a conversation I had with a NASA meteorologist back in the early 80's. He was agnostic on the whole AGW idea, but he said, "None of the research will be meaningful until we have a good way to account for heat island effects and other effects from the immediate environment of each measuring station." Pretty smart guy.

Posted by: Scobface at July 29, 2012 01:09 PM (IoNBC)

174 166

I actually agree with you, though with less enthusiasm.

I thought the TDKR was over-long with too little happening, particularly in the middle. I thought Anne Hathaway was not very good and came off like an insincere lesbian, so all the stuff with Batman didn't come off. And Bane was a bore.

Heath Ledger's incredible performance really overcame any deficiencies with the first one-- I don't think this one had a strong enough villain or conflict to do that this time.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 01:11 PM (MMC8r)

175 Too bad. I liked the guy.

The Red Letter Guys don't pick apart movies just to pick them apart. If it's an entertaining movie with good character arcs, they are willing to forgive some plot holes or other poor choices.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 01:14 PM (J5tI6)

176 175

Sorry, meant 'the second one,' not 'first.'

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 01:14 PM (MMC8r)

177 >>You're right, the NHS is not free, but it is paid for through national insurance, not the VAT.

...And our social security money is in a lock box

Posted by: Albie Damned at July 29, 2012 01:14 PM (Yhu4q)

178 Oh, and I liked the NHS giant baby. It wasn't creepy at all.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2012 01:14 PM (jucos)

179 I had to turn my head at the FLOTUS's flash of the belly button. How classy....

Posted by: Craig Poe at July 29, 2012 01:15 PM (BVkEs)

180 As far as I'm concerned with the global warming bullshit, all I needed to know I learned from looking at the Vostok Ice Core data and knowing that the global warming nihilists based all of their predictions on computer simulations and not theoretical calculations of any sort. Computer simulations of dynamical systems are inherently unreliable, as meteorologist Lorenz brilliantly theorized oh so long ago. Then, once the Climategate emails came out and I saw that their computer models weren't even models but curve-fitting bullshit with tons of arbitrary constants thrown in everywhere to achieve whatever the hell they wanted, it was all beyond over. I'm just ticked off that none of these criminals has been jailed yet and that we have let the feral government continue on pushing civilization-killing regulations in support of the busted con of anthropogenic, catastrophic global warming. Even to this day - with our idiot feral courts helping every step of the way to hell.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2012 01:16 PM (X3lox)

181 I thought the TDKR was over-long with too little happening, particularly in the middle.

I agree there.

I thought Anne Hathaway was not very good and came off like an insincere lesbian, so all the stuff with Batman didn't come off.

I was impressed with Hathaway. I expected much less. And I do think we were supposed to get the impression she was a lesbian with her "roommate" but I felt that Batman's character arc would have been distracted by the Catwoman romance subplot that you were expecting.

And Bane was a bore.

True, but he was menacing.

If you realize that Joseph Gordon-Leavitt was the star of the film, it is a better movie.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 29, 2012 01:19 PM (J5tI6)

182 >free taxpayer-funded

yeah. If it's taxpayer funded, it ain't free. At least, not to those who pay the taxes

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 29, 2012 01:20 PM (8sCoq)

183 Batman isn't Batman unless Burt Ward and Adam West are involved. Call me a purist.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2012 01:20 PM (jucos)

184 If you realize that Joseph Gordon-Leavitt was the star of the film, it is a better movie.

Yeah, you'd have to, because otherwise he's just oddly in the way.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 01:22 PM (MMC8r)

185 where was Churchill or Monty or Lord Nelson?

where was the RAF or the Royal Navy?

They could have towed HMS Victory to the center of the stadium and just parked it, with a big sign that said, 'we shaped the world from ships like this'

but no- hospital bed trampoline demonstration

I feel sorry for the Queen- she has seen the total collapse of her country over the course of her reign- from world power to whatever the fuck it is now

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 29, 2012 01:25 PM (8sCoq)

186 where was Churchill or Monty or Lord Nelson?

where was the RAF or the Royal Navy?

Evil rightwingwarmongerhatemophobia. This was a civicly-responsible, post-PC, fulfilling-Orwell pageant.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 01:27 PM (MMC8r)

187 165 Bob Dole cannot wait for National Health care. Bob Dole will benefit from it. Bob Dole is sure of it.

Posted by: Bob Dole at July 29, 2012 05:05 PM (jucos)

Settle down Bob, we're not going to cover Viagra.

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at July 29, 2012 01:36 PM (3ZjAP)

188 >make me sort of regret that Chicago didn't get the Olympics in '18, or whenever.

Imagine the events

Drive-By Shooting Relay

Liquor Store Holdup (2 and 4 man teams)

City Government Pentathlon, consisting of 5 events: bribery, extortion, vote fraud, embezzlement, and nepotism

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 29, 2012 01:38 PM (8sCoq)

189 Speaking of Ric Flair. He is bankrupt and a total loser.

A friend of mind did some construction work for him down in the islands, never got paid, but did go down there with him.

He said Flair had the biggest dick he had ever seen. Made Johnny Wad Holmes look like a teenager.

They went swimming with some girls down there, and the girls about shit when they saw his dick floating in the water.

True story.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 01:40 PM (3ZjAP)

190 I liked this last Batman movie, not because it was spectacular but because if you look back at it in your minds eye you feel like you were watching a comic book. Distinct tiles and sections, over the top but fun. I don't care that the cops at rats for 4 months in the sewer, or was that 57 days..

Posted by: TheGarbone at July 29, 2012 01:41 PM (cEDzL)

191 190 - Heh, ever seen "I'm Gonna Get you Sucka?"

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 01:42 PM (y8RZG)

192 NHS is junk and kills people. This idiot should have paid homage to Churchill, Thatcher and others that won WWII and the Cold War, instead he wastes huge amounts of money on NHS. The Queen actually served in WWII as something, I think it was riding jeeps, I'm not sure but I will look it up, The Queen Mother also contributed to the War effort. This ingrate had to embarrass the Queen.

Posted by: Carol at July 29, 2012 01:44 PM (z4WKX)

193 and drought? we never had droughts before. 1930's..."dustbowl"

Posted by: @PurpAv at July 29, 2012 01:45 PM (qE+H8)

194 A friend of mind did some construction work for him down in the islands, never got paid, but did go down there with him. He said Flair had the biggest dick he had ever seen. Made Johnny Wad Holmes look like a teenager. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at July 29, 2012 05:40 PM (3ZjAP) Ah, yes, the old "friend who notices penises" gambit. It's been a nice long while since I've seen one of those.

Posted by: Stark DickflÃ¼ssig at July 29, 2012 01:45 PM (NpR/e)

195 These horror stories spread over these wingnut conspiracy sites have never happened and the terrorist Tea Party knows it. The truth is that if we don't want America's healthcare system to become like this we have to fully support and expand the Affordable Care Act. Only by following the NHS lead can we become the leader in healthcare that we've always wanted to be but couldn't because of our failed experiment with for profit services that exclude the sick, the poor and minorities. We are all one family and we must not let anything stand in the way of everybody pulling together for this program. America is a great country that wants the best for its citizens and if you are against the ACA you are against America.

Posted by: NYT at July 29, 2012 01:47 PM (D60vZ)

196 Batman isn't Batman unless Burt Ward and Adam West are involved. Call me a purist.

These guys would agree with you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdVJWyoncdU

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 29, 2012 01:48 PM (xKC/c)

197 Holy shitballs....30 years noaa data found to be completly bogus @WUWT....wait didn't we already no this?? Wa-Wait...no take backs. You assholes owe me a lot a fuckin' money for those carbon credits, Goddamnit. How am I gonna afford this mansion now?

Posted by: aL gOrE at July 29, 2012 01:54 PM (PntdI)

198 In Britain, the government itself runs the hospitals and employs the doctors. WeÂ’ve all heard scare stories about how that works in practice; these stories are false.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at July 29, 2012 01:55 PM (imVgX)

199 Hey Billy Bob! Best to save that for the ONT, knowutimean? I'm not a prude and I'm certainly not questioning your sexuality but jeebus, dude.

Posted by: ErikW at July 29, 2012 01:57 PM (y8RZG)

200 #200 Hey, Krugman, when your ticker starts acting up we'll just ship you over to the UK.

Posted by: Miss Marple at July 29, 2012 01:58 PM (GoIUi)

201 Great post, rdbrewer. England has so many things worth bragging about: the Magna Carta, British Common Law, the King James Bible, spreading Western values, etc.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at July 29, 2012 02:04 PM (KL49F)

202

The Dark Knight Rises with 60's Robin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-GkQihKYvM

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 02:05 PM (GULKT)

203 actually, if you are an ambitious student in India or the Philippines, you do think of the NHS as "England"...because that's where you can find a decent paying job.

Posted by: tioedong at July 29, 2012 02:06 PM (9YO+4)

204 He said Flair had the biggest dick he had ever seen. Made Johnny Wad Holmes look like a teenager. ------- Something tells me that with a guy spending half his life in speedos on TV and in front of crowds, this would be somewhat common knowledge, no? Not that there's anything wrong with that. BTW, I'm still too sexy for Milan, my shirt, my car, my love, the catwalk and my kitteh.

Posted by: Right Said Fred at July 29, 2012 02:08 PM (PntdI)

205 Hey, Krugman, when your ticker starts acting up we'll just ship you over to the UK. Posted by: Miss Marple at July 29, 2012 05:58 PM (GoIUi) Ha! Serfs. I shall control the money supply, you Conservative peons. Where will your God be then? ...and stay outta my comments section.

Posted by: King Krugman the First at July 29, 2012 02:14 PM (PntdI)

206 "Prized Olympic tickets entrusted to foreign delegations are being openly sold by touts on the streets of Britain, it emerged last night. They are cashing in on the huge demand for seats by selling tickets sent overseas by Games organisers. The revelation came as a row raged over embarrassing scenes of banks of empty seating at many Games venues - including last night's swimming finals. Last night Scotland Yard said every illegal seller arrested so far had held tickets despatched overseas to national committees and official re-sellers. One of the touts held is from Germany, another from Slovakia." http://goo.gl/kTpb

Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 02:49 PM (Lia1Q)

207 If the NHS is so fucking fabulous, why is General Electric running a commercial during the Olympics about their donating special beds to a neo-natal ICU in Britain? Look, I get that centralized healthcare has to kill off the old folks but isn't that supposed to be so that they can spare the children? Then why does the fucking fabulous NHS need to get equipment for babies donated to it???

Posted by: natasha at July 29, 2012 02:50 PM (pyYXJ)

208 Damn, the Queen looks pissed in that pic.

Posted by: logprof at July 29, 2012 03:08 PM (imVgX)

209 208 "Prized Olympic tickets entrusted to foreign delegations are being openly sold by touts on the streets of Britain, it emerged last night. They are cashing in on the huge demand for seats by selling tickets sent overseas by Games organisers. The revelation came as a row raged over embarrassing scenes of banks of empty seating at many Games venues - including last night's swimming finals. Last night Scotland Yard said every illegal seller arrested so far had held tickets despatched overseas to national committees and official re-sellers. One of the touts held is from Germany, another from Slovakia." http://goo.gl/kTpb Posted by: Redd at July 29, 2012 06:49 PM (Lia1Q) --So they're upset over the empty seats, but they're spending time chasing down people trying to fill them?

Posted by: logprof at July 29, 2012 03:10 PM (imVgX)

210 --So they're upset over the empty seats, but they're spending time chasing down people trying to fill them?

Posted by: logprof at July 29, 2012 07:10 PM (imVgX)

They're earning money that the government can't tax. That's a much greater crime than empty seats.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2012 03:14 PM (GULKT)

211
He said Flair had the biggest dick he had ever seen. Made Johnny Wad Holmes look like a teenager.

Maybe it just felt like it.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2012 03:23 PM (MMC8r)

212 Free taxpayer-funded: ISN'T THAT AN OXYMORON?

Posted by: ahem at July 29, 2012 03:50 PM (7bdKn)

213 " which has provided free taxpayer-funded health care to everyone"
free taxpayer-funded. Free taxpayer-FUNDED... gee, what's wrong with this line?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at July 29, 2012 04:09 PM (r4wIV)

214 My third year of medical school I worked at an NHS hospital near Manchester, UK called Stepping Hill. I walk to my Gastro rotation, the doctor is with a patient who had either Crohn's or Ulcerative Colitis, and he decides that the patient needs a colonoscopy. He writes down the plan on a slip, gives it to the patient, and says to him, "Okay, we'll see you in 9 months or so for that colonoscopy." I was shocked. I was thinking of American patients in Florida where I'm from and what there reaction would be if their physician told them they'd have to wait 9 months to a year to get a procedure done. That's just one example of how "awesome" the NHS is. It's a big bureaucratic mess. I should say, the nurses in North-west England are absolutely lovely and the friendliest people. They were real sweet to all the Yankee med students.

Posted by: sunny black at July 29, 2012 04:58 PM (0LX7P)

215 "The license to thrill" The Queen of England Parachutes Into Stadium James Bond StyleÂ”. A rather undignifed and disgraceful opening show to bridge the royal protocol. The Queen of England flying in a parchutes seen with undignifed manner and garment for the whole world to behold.

The queen was clearly not amused nor thrill. She was irked and grumpy, picking her finger nail a couple of times. This is one of the worst Olympic opening ceremony, it leaved a foul taste in the mouth, yet to the lefty, this is entertaining.

Posted by: Bond007 at July 29, 2012 06:36 PM (jWxzs)

216 They just wanted everyone to see up Her Majesty's dress -- and apparently the indignity was not lost on her (look at her face; listen to her tone as she declares the games opened).

By the way, when did VULGAR SPECTACLE become the fashion for opening the Games? I don't mind having some fun with it, but REALLY: it's gotten worse and worse over the years.

Have a fanfare and the parade of athletes (minus "Palestine," a fiction), and light A torch, and have done with it.

Posted by: beverly at July 29, 2012 10:54 PM (2+4LB)

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