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December 29, 2012

The Passing Of General H. Norman Schwarzkopf Jr., USArmy
— Dave in Texas

A New Jersey kid, the son of Ruth Allen and Herbert Norman. His name was later amended to H. Norman. And in his time, after serving in Vietnam where he earned three Silver Stars, a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart, he stayed with the Army and rose to greatness.

This is an except of his service (granted, Wiki, but sourced) about leadership and taking care of the men in your command.

In Vietnam in March 1970, Schwarzkopf was involved in rescuing men of his battalion from a minefield. He had received word that men under his command had encountered a minefield on the notorious Batangan Peninsula, and rushed to the scene in his helicopter, as was his custom while a battalion commander, in order to make his helicopter available. He found several soldiers still trapped in the minefield. Schwarzkopf urged them to retrace their steps slowly. Still, one man tripped a mine and was severely wounded but remained conscious. As the wounded man flailed in agony, the soldiers around him feared that he would set off another mine. Schwarzkopf, also wounded by the explosion, crawled across the minefield to the wounded man and held him down (using a "pinning" technique from his wrestling days at West Point) so another could splint his shattered leg. One soldier stepped away to break a branch from a nearby tree to make the splint. In doing so, he too hit a mine, which killed him and the two men closest to him, and blew an arm and a leg off Schwarzkopf's artillery liaison officer. Eventually, Schwarzkopf led his surviving men to safety, by ordering the division engineers to mark the locations of the mines with shaving cream.

They don't hand out Silver Stars for showing up.

RIP General. And Godspeed.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 06:33 AM | Comments (301)
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1 RIP Gen.

Posted by: crank at December 29, 2012 06:37 AM (Wc9et)

2 Had the pleasure of flying him numerous times out of the south Florida area to speaking events and such around the country over the years.

Posted by: Hawker Flyer at December 29, 2012 06:42 AM (2z0mM)

3 That is what a real hero does.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 29, 2012 06:42 AM (yiIja)

4 The last of Non-rules of engagement leaders.. and an IQ too match his physical stature I wont make a comparison here out of respect for the General to the current commander in cheap...

Posted by: Clemenza at December 29, 2012 06:46 AM (ILM+d)

5 No doubt his Silver Star inspired a boyish Obama to realize that some day he could be Commander in Chief.

Posted by: Ohiogal at December 29, 2012 06:46 AM (SAYgH)

6 If only they were allowed to be warriors now...

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 06:46 AM (XLuH2)

7 Has the SCOAMT issued a statement? If so, how many times did he refer to himself?

Posted by: butch at December 29, 2012 06:47 AM (nK2Sx)

8 Whew!

Posted by: Abe Vigoda and GHWB at December 29, 2012 06:48 AM (syEB8)

9 No statement? At least we didn't have to hear him cum all over himself again.

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 06:49 AM (XLuH2)

10 They don't hand out Silver Stars for showing up. I just put one on my forehead.

Posted by: Precious Nobel Laureate, Lord Barack at December 29, 2012 06:50 AM (FcR7P)

11 - Abe ,Your Next...

Posted by: Death Card at December 29, 2012 06:50 AM (rBK2Z)

12 Name one Democrat that gives a shit.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2012 06:53 AM (EWsrI)

13 Speaking of the General are there any 30 round Mag's for my glock 23 left out there?

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 06:54 AM (XLuH2)

14 @12 I can name all of them who look like shit...

Posted by: Clemenza at December 29, 2012 06:55 AM (ILM+d)

RIP, General Schwarzkopf, as should all good and brave men like you.

Posted by: Gem at December 29, 2012 06:55 AM (zw+pb)

16 @13 Rest assured MS Fuckstein knows where you can get some, and the first AR they confiscate will be chambered in 6.5 creedmore..

Posted by: Clemenza at December 29, 2012 06:57 AM (ILM+d)

17 Amen Clemenza...

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 06:58 AM (XLuH2)

18 Well done, as usual, Dave in Texas.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 06:58 AM (GsoHv)

19 An early critic of the Iraq war Dec 2004 while others were still cheerleading

Posted by: occam at December 29, 2012 07:00 AM (nnbGq)

20 My Brother has a deck of cards made as a souvenir during gulf war one ...Stormin Norman was the King of Hearts while SoDamn Hussein was on the Ace Of Spades...
The 2 jokers were of different pics of Baghdad Bob...

Famous Bob Quotes :
"They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."

There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"

"My feelings - as usual - we will slaughter them all"

"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"

"I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"

...and the Best One ...
'We have destroyed 2 tanks, fighter planes, 2 helicopters and their shovels - We have driven them back."

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:04 AM (rBK2Z)

21 @19 So fucking what?

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2012 07:04 AM (EWsrI)

22 Can you just" John Lennon Imagine" if we had let Patton go to Moscow and Norman go all the way to the sea,,we would have very little casualties today and that was a 3/4 million man army that could have settled it all, instead Bush did not want too upset the Saudis...

Posted by: Clemenza at December 29, 2012 07:04 AM (ILM+d)

23 They don't hand out Silver Stars for showing up.

Ahem. They do if you write the AAR and the OPNAV 1650/3.

Posted by: Jean Francois Kerry, that gigolo from Massachusetts at December 29, 2012 07:05 AM (nK2Sx)

24 Godspeed, Bear.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 29, 2012 07:05 AM (kqqGm)

25 I was watching something last night, I think it was gutfeld sitting in for O'Reilly and some turd was going on and on about how his interviews with Katie Couric made her carreer, Then gutfeld said, that liberating a country thing he did was kind of important too.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:05 AM (l86i3)

26 "As far as Saddam Hussein being a great military strategist, he is neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational arts, nor is he a tactician, nor is he a general, nor is he a soldier. Other than that, he's a great military man, I want you to know that. " Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:06 AM (DGIjM)

27 My boss in '91 and a damn good man. Rest in peace, General.

Posted by: JimboHoffa LIB! at December 29, 2012 07:06 AM (dAfqy)

28 Cheaper Thna Dirt finally has bulk 5.56 back in stock: $999/1000 rounds

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:06 AM (XDC0v)

29 @23

   And the hat.


     Don't forget the hat.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 29, 2012 07:07 AM (SAMxH)

30 Cheaper Thna Dirt finally has bulk 5.56 back in stock: $999/1000 rounds Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 11:06 AM (XDC0v) $1 a round, WTF.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:07 AM (l86i3)

31 Name one Democrat that gives half a shit.

Posted by: eman at December 29, 2012 07:08 AM (EWsrI)

32 irongrampa @ 29: How could I forget? It's seared, seared into my memory!

BTW, thanks for setting that up.

Posted by: Jean Francois Kerry, that gigolo from Massachusetts at December 29, 2012 07:09 AM (nK2Sx)

33 "Going to war without France is like going hunting without an accordion." -Gen. Schwarzkopf What a good man. I remember clearly his daily briefings..... awesome. Then afterwards him saying he knew damn well the enemy was watching them too. God bless his soul.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:10 AM (DGIjM)

34 30 Too bad nobody told you to buy some weeks ago, huh-

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:10 AM (XDC0v)

35 OSP - my reaction, exactly. $1/round!!!!

Posted by: butch at December 29, 2012 07:11 AM (nK2Sx)

36 Rest in Peace Stormin Norman.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 07:11 AM (QI2hh)

37 Eventually, Schwarzkopf led his surviving men to safety, by ordering the division engineers to mark the locations of the mines with shaving cream.

Huh? That sounds a bit fluffed...

Posted by: Obamao at December 29, 2012 07:12 AM (JtyGg)

38 34 Freedom munitions and usaammo still have certain calibers and bullet weights in stock. Do yourself a huge financial favor. Sell before the inauguration and you'll probably make at least 50%

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:13 AM (XDC0v)

39 Too bad nobody told you to buy some weeks ago, huh- Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 11:10 AM (XDC0v) Oh, I have never been without.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:13 AM (l86i3)

40 Read on twitter his dad was one of the investigators for the Linberg baby kidnapping.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:13 AM (DGIjM)

41 -
31 Name one Democrat that gives half a shit. Posted by: eman
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Joe Lieberman probably does , but thats about it...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:13 AM (rBK2Z)

42 35 It'll go higher- believe that. I can almost guarantee that there WILL be a ban on online ammo sales. Have you seen Feinstein's bill?

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:14 AM (XDC0v)

43 Joe Lieberman probably does , but thats about it... Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 11:13 AM (rBK2Z) He's an independent, the Dems primaried him.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:15 AM (l86i3)

44 I can almost guarantee that there WILL be a ban on online ammo sales. Have you seen Feinstein's bill? Don't we have to pass it first?

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2012 07:16 AM (FcR7P)

45 General H. Norman Schwarzkopf knew that to win it meant breaking shit and allowed those he commanded to do so.>>Battle of 73 Easting, 26 Â– 27 February 1991

A decisive victory for the American and British forces in their Desert Storm operation in Iraq, the Battle of 73 Easting refers to the conflict that took place on the north-south line of coordinates on the military map. In a truly devastating show of strength from the Coalition, the Iraqi forces were overwhelmed and overcome. The main part of the battle involved the US 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment, which attacked and completely destroyed the Iraqi 18th Mechanized Brigade and 37th Armored Brigade. During the battle Â— one of the most studied in modern history Â— the Iraqis lost over 160 tanks to the American and British forces.>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_73_Easting

RIP General.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 07:16 AM (Y6HTt)

46 Read and share and invest accordingly: http://tinyurl.com/d924o4b

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:16 AM (XDC0v)

47 Guido, of course the White House issued a statement. It was classy and everything. http://preview.tinyurl.com/cl6co3l

Posted by: no good deed at December 29, 2012 07:16 AM (mjR67)

This was a "Man's Man" of a general, the nature of Grant, Pershing and Patton! Not a weaslely, boot-licker like his contemporary, Colin Powell, our age's very own Gen McClellan.

If Stormin' Norman was in control of the JCS in '91, Baghdad would have been taken with little or no resistance, obviating the need for W's efforts in '02; there would be far fewer issues in the ME to deal with today. The Kurds would be chugging along even more than they are now and whole bunch of bad things might have been avoided, starting. perhaps, with the election of Rapist-in-Chief, Willie Jeff.

Damn! History is a cruel teacher about the absolute need to elevate people with guts, rather than the smooth-talker/staff types who always seem to win out.

Posted by: Earl T at December 29, 2012 07:17 AM (csu9R)

49 I can almost guarantee that there WILL be a ban on online ammo sales. Have you seen Feinstein's bill? I doubt that very seriously, Thats a tigers ass they won't tickle.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:17 AM (l86i3)

50 @ - 43 - Posted by: Oldsailors Poet,
------------------------------------------
You don't really believe that do you Sailor ?

He votes with the dems on most things except when it come to war issues...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:17 AM (rBK2Z)

51 In an age of political generals, he was not. Nor more need be said. RIP.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at December 29, 2012 07:17 AM (Eq2MX)

52 DAve...owner of Cheaper than Dirt? Come clean..its OK. We still need more ammo...

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 07:18 AM (XLuH2)

53 44 Feinstein's bill will never pass as it sits. I see it as a beginning of negotiations. Probably we'll just see no more online ammo sales and no more mags above 10 rds. I HOPE that's all-

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:18 AM (XDC0v)

54 Anyone willing to weigh in on what I might expect to find at my first gun show next week? I'm really behind the curve here, but hopefully not too late...

Posted by: piercello at December 29, 2012 07:19 AM (E/6f0)

55 He votes with the dems on most things except when it come to war issues... Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 11:17 AM (rBK2Z) His voting record is Democrap, but there is an I in front of his name for a reason. He hasn't forgotton and makes them pay every chance he gets.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:19 AM (l86i3)

56 Anyone willing to weigh in on what I might expect to find at my first gun show next week? I'm really behind the curve here, but hopefully not too late... Posted by: piercello at December 29, 2012 11:19 AM (E/6f0) Pices tripled on everything you see.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:20 AM (l86i3)

57
Have to wonder how the man managed not to be corrupted by the politics of rank. No perfumed prince, him.

I read his book, he was instrumental in reforming the Army after the 70's. That, I posit, took as much courage as being on the battlefield.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 29, 2012 07:21 AM (SAMxH)

58 52 Guido if you had listened to my analysis and followed my advice you would have doubled your money in the last month and a half. How does that make you feel?

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:21 AM (XDC0v)

59 Guido if you had listened to my analysis and followed my advice you would have doubled your money in the last month and a half. How does that make you feel? Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 11:21 AM (XDC0v) Enjoy toldyaso much?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:22 AM (l86i3)

60 High prices are to be expected at this point, but is this a good chance of getting a feel for different models or am I better off going to a store?

Posted by: piercello at December 29, 2012 07:22 AM (E/6f0)

61 54 Huge crowds for sure- long lines. Certainly not any ammo priced as low as what i have suggested... probably not much selection. Panic buying.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:24 AM (XDC0v)

62 I am planning on getting a glock 19 next paycheck.. but wondering if I should hold off until the hysteria dies down. Wish I had the money for an AR15. Not that I need it.. but.. I figure that will be banned shortly.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:24 AM (DGIjM)

63 Want Guns ? Go to your local Pawn Shop....
You can deal on Price and hold up the Liquor store next door...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:25 AM (rBK2Z)

64 High prices are to be expected at this point, but is this a good chance of getting a feel for different models or am I better off going to a store? Posted by: piercello at December 29, 2012 11:22 AM (E/6f0) I wouldn't know where to start, I've been looking for a piece to finish my third world dictator starter set, It's either insanely expensive, or used up junk. I had a bid on gunbroker but it zoomed past what I was willing to pay.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:25 AM (l86i3)

65 60 Go to a range that rents guns. Be deliberate and make it happen.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:25 AM (XDC0v)

66 "Feinstein's bill will never pass as it sits. I see it as a beginning of negotiations"

The GOP will negotiate it from a partial ban on "assault weapons" and handguns to a complete ban on "assault weapons" and handguns. They're wicked good that way.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 29, 2012 07:26 AM (GZitp)

67 62 If it's still available at pre-panic prices you better get it now. There are o manufacturers in the country that are taking orders anymore.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:26 AM (XDC0v)

68 General, you were The Man. I remember him being asked by a reporter about Saddam being a great tactician. His reply, a short, you gotta be kidding me, type laugh.

Posted by: teej at December 29, 2012 07:26 AM (JxJPF)

69 Want Guns ? Go to your local Pawn Shop.... You can deal on Price and hold up the Liquor store next door... Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 11:25 AM (rBK2Z) LOL, careful, Liqour stor owners usually pack heat, lots of it. Especially if it is owned by third world types.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:26 AM (l86i3)

70 67... thanks Dave!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:27 AM (DGIjM)

71 Thanks for the input, Morons. I'm trying to avoid getting caught up in the hysteria bubble through ignorance, but I have to start somewhere.

Posted by: piercello at December 29, 2012 07:28 AM (E/6f0)

72 @62 Forget the AR, get a 22-250 and learn to reload your own, unless you live in the City then a good Mossberg 500 w/ 2 barrels and Breneke slugs and 00 do just fine...

Posted by: Clemenza at December 29, 2012 07:28 AM (ILM+d)

73
   M-14, M1911, and the short barrel shotgun--covers things perfectly.

    I suppose for frills, you could add some claymores.

    Kind of an ass pain, tho.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 29, 2012 07:28 AM (SAMxH)

74 M-14, M1911, and the short barrel shotgun--covers things perfectly. I suppose for frills, you could add some claymores. Kind of an ass pain, tho. Posted by: irongrampa at December 29, 2012 11:28 AM (SAMxH) That's good ole pragmatic wisdom right there.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:29 AM (l86i3)

75 DAve: ouch...what a brilliant business consultant and financial analyst u are...I'm just devastated I didn't follow your advice. What's your next big play...penny stocks? Or...wait for it...$200 worth of Dinars?

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 07:29 AM (XLuH2)

76 DAve: ouch...what a brilliant business consultant and financial analyst u are...I'm just devastated I didn't follow your advice. What's your next big play...penny stocks? Or...wait for it...$200 worth of Dinars? Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 11:29 AM (XLuH2) Meh, easy on dave, I guess he feels the panic like we all do. His heart is good.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:31 AM (l86i3)

77 M-14, M1911, and the short barrel shotgun--covers things perfectly.>>

Id add Boobeh traps to that list. Since a good steady supply of Boobehs is always good

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 07:32 AM (Y6HTt)

78 Whats Guido's advice on investing ?
Hair Gel and Strip Clubs ?

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:33 AM (rBK2Z)

79 Id add Boobeh traps to that list. Since a good steady supply of Boobehs is always good Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 11:32 AM (Y6HTt) Throw in a copy of the Anarchist cookbook.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:33 AM (l86i3)

80 72 @62 Forget the AR, get a 22-250 and learn to reload your own, unless you live in the City then a good Mossberg 500 w/ 2 barrels and Breneke slugs and 00 do just fine... Posted by: Clemenza at December 29, 2012 11:28 AM (ILM+d) oooh. just looked up the the Mossberg.... nice.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:33 AM (DGIjM)

81 59 No, that's not it. First, I'm trying to establish bona fides- and it seems like I'm succeeding. Second, out of the woodwork comes a number of shittalkers who accuse me of profiting somehow from the purchases of the people here. Frankly it's tiring and annoying and there's rarely anyone else to speak up for me so I'm forced to do it myself. I don't have to try to help people and folks need to measure their response to me doing so. If someone doesn't want to be helpful that's fine but i don't need them coming after me when I do

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:33 AM (XDC0v)

82 Gonna get for a while. SEC vs Big 12 reply towards bottom of last thread if you need a good laugh Vic and OSP. Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at December 29, 2012 07:34 AM (iW2D2)

83 Ok OSP..I'm just tired of hearing Cheaper than Dirt for every friggin comment...doesn't the horde at least get a discount? Lol. Peace.

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 07:35 AM (XLuH2)

84 Ok OSP..I'm just tired of hearing Cheaper than Dirt for every friggin comment...doesn't the horde at least get a discount? Lol. Peace. Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 11:35 AM (XLuH2) That's not shit, Hey, Did you know I wrote a book?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:36 AM (l86i3)

85 75 Guido I don't need you to be a dick to me: answer the question: if you had followed my advice which I gave freely to you would you have not outperformed any other asset or commodity in the last month? You're welcome, little shittalker... is being a little shittalker genetic or did you come up with it yourself?

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:37 AM (XDC0v)

86 I checked the Fleet Farm site and it appears they have some ARs available. Last night the page was empty.

http://tinyurl.com/cvqwqoc

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 07:38 AM (Y6HTt)

87 I joined the NRA last week, Dave. refused to do so when they endorsed Harry Reid but.. on your urging.. I did it.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:40 AM (DGIjM)

88 84 This is the FIRST time I've mentioned CTD, and I WASN'T endorsing it, so there's that. I wouldn't buy at that price. For all we know we may just be in a bubble and buying at panic prices would be a huge mistake.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:40 AM (XDC0v)

89 $200 worth of Dinars? Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 11:29 AM (XLuH2) ---------------------------------------------------------- Iraqi Dinars are the next good bet! You will make 3000% on your investment. I hear the Zimbabwean Dollar is set to take off too.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 29, 2012 07:40 AM (jucos)

90 My SO is an NRA member; the amount of mail he gets from them is incredible.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 29, 2012 07:42 AM (ardkc)

91 I hear the Zimbabwean Dollar is set to take off too. Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 29, 2012 11:40 AM (jucos) I hear you can get like a million of them for a dollar, instant millionair!!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:42 AM (l86i3)

92 DAve gave Guido new Indian name - " Shit Talker "
which means
he smoke Buffalo Turd who graze in Peyote field ...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:42 AM (rBK2Z)

93 87 Good job. Yes, there are many shortcomings to NRA, but they ARE your main representative on gun rights, which is important. You need one. Many people like Gun Owners of America better, but they're much smaller. $20, so i just joined both.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:43 AM (XDC0v)

94 @90.. I got a ton of mail from them and I wasnt even a member. Lord.. it will probably double now.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:43 AM (DGIjM)

95 Gees ok DAve...I was just breaking your fucking balls a little about owning Cheaper than Dirt...you are a tad OCD about it. I have actually gone there on your advice. Does that help? Now...step awaaaay from the keyboard for second...take a deeeep breath...that's it....put down the hand grenade.....

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 07:43 AM (XLuH2)

96 I hear the Zimbabwean Dollar is set to take off too. Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 29, 2012 11:40 AM (jucos) I hear you can get like a million of them for a dollar, instant millionair!!! Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 11:42 AM (l86i3) ------------------------------------------------------------ Just wait until I put you to some fucking knowledge on the Argentinian Peso!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 29, 2012 07:43 AM (jucos)

97 92 I apologize to all for that little incident and I appreciate all the kind words

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:44 AM (XDC0v)

98 86 That's a hot tip: I'm not aware of any other place in the country that has any for sale except the $4000 ones if that

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:47 AM (XDC0v)

99 My SO is an NRA member; the amount of mail he gets from them is incredible. Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 29, 2012 11:42 AM (ardkc) And that not be cheap. In my opinion, the NRA has gone the way of the AARP,it's all about hawking high intrest credit cards ansd the like. I signed up with the National Association for gun rights, Oathkeepers and the Liberty Preparedness Network.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:47 AM (l86i3)

100 "...but i don't need them coming after me when I d."

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 11:33 AM (XDC0v)

Then stop touting your own "brilliant" investing plans and shilling for ammo companies.

It's the internet....nobody is going to be nice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 07:47 AM (GsoHv)

101 good, I really didn't want to have to stop this scar.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:47 AM (nqBYe)

102 Dave I figured $25 to make a statement was worth it.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at December 29, 2012 07:47 AM (DGIjM)

103 It's the internet....nobody is going to be nice. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 11:47 AM (GsoHv) hey! sometimes we are nice.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:49 AM (nqBYe)

104 Seriously. Lets hug it out. I'm Italian from NY. If my breaking your balls was offensives well..Fuck I'm from NY...what the Fuck. Good lines though from everyone. Ouch. Did I feel wrath. " Shit stalker?" Really? Lol. Its nothing Mrs. Guido hasn't said.

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 07:49 AM (XLuH2)

105 95 Oooohhh the famous internet "just kidding"... hard to tell. If that's all it was i apologize but it's hard to tell over the net. Feel free, then, to take my advice and win.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:50 AM (XDC0v)

106 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 11:47 AM (l86i3)

The only reason I bothered with the NRA is that it is a requirement for membership in a local gun club that I would love to join. Otherwise they aren't the most impressive organization.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 07:50 AM (GsoHv)

107 Here's a question... If you had a helicopter, why wouldn't you just ask your pilot to hover over the trapped men and lower a rope they can climb up... I could see this not being an option if they were under fire, but seems strange to not use it if you've got it...

Posted by: Joshua at December 29, 2012 07:50 AM (ktuSH)

108 hey! sometimes we are nice.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 11:49 AM (nqBYe)

Well....sometimes, but not often!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 07:51 AM (GsoHv)

109 hands DAve some chamomile tea.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:51 AM (nqBYe)

110 Here's a question... If you had a helicopter, why wouldn't you just ask your pilot to hover over the trapped men and lower a rope they can climb up... I could see this not being an option if they were under fire, but seems strange to not use it if you've got it... Posted by: Joshua at December 29, 2012 11:50 AM (ktuSH) HMM, I'm sure that's a metaphor for something.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:51 AM (l86i3)

111 Ok DAve u never fuckin give up...lists to yourself!!!!! For Gods sake! See? now shut the Fuck up!

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 07:53 AM (XLuH2)

112 -
107 Here's a question... If you had a helicopter, why wouldn't you just ask your pilot to hover over the trapped men and lower a rope they can climb up... I could see this not being an option if they were under fire, but seems strange to not use it if you've got it...
Posted by: Joshua
------------------------------------
I guess you had to be there, maybe the pilot was low on fuel or didn't have the skills to ' Hover ' May be they didn't have a rope ?
Could be a whole host of reasons...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:53 AM (rBK2Z)

113 CharliBrown's D, you're right, but I attribute it to , too much bad news and not enough beef cakepics and val-urite. but mostly bad news.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:54 AM (nqBYe)

114 Ok DAve u never fuckin give up...lists to yourself!!!!! For Gods sake! See? now shut the Fuck up! Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 11:53 AM (XLuH2) DAMMIT, Guido, Dave, don't make me pull this car over. Dave you were preachy like a mother fucker. Guido, you don't know when to let shit go. Now knock it the fuck off.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:55 AM (l86i3)

115 I didn't know that being from New York was an excuse ?
I'm going to file that in my Big Book of David Gregory excuses...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 07:55 AM (rBK2Z)

116 than ks, nowi remember we have a minimum of another 4 freakin years.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:56 AM (nqBYe)

117 Here's a question... If you had a helicopter, why wouldn't you just ask your pilot to hover over the trapped men and lower a rope they can climb up>>

I'm guessing Norman would have thought of that if were a good option. But since it sounds like the minefield was in the jungle (one of the men reached over and got a stick to make the splint) the canopy probably took that option out.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 07:56 AM (Y6HTt)

118 Tempers, they are a flarein'. Same old horde.heh

Posted by: weirdflunky "cause i before e is bs at December 29, 2012 07:56 AM (tlhtD)

119 100 Ok CBD my suggestions weren't brilliant: look at the prices. Brilliant means good, right? Since you're so much smarter than me, what's a better investment? You may have absolutely nothing helpful to contribute, but why take those feelings of inadequacy out on me? Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise. Be positive. Lots of people are nice. Don't generalize from your own personality. I'm assuming that you're not the real CBD, because I thought much more of that person. Answer the question: what possible motive would I have to "shill" for a company? That's a hell of an accusation, buddy

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:56 AM (XDC0v)

120 So nice weather here.

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 07:57 AM (XLuH2)

121 Bbbbrrrrrraaaaaaappppppp!

Thought I needed to clear the room for a minute.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 29, 2012 07:57 AM (ZOf1l)

122 109 and i appreciate it

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:57 AM (XDC0v)

123 children, children. no alextopia for you.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:57 AM (nqBYe)

124 Minimum of 8 with the FSA. Too much bad news and they just keep stringing it out. I'm damn sick of it.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 07:57 AM (QI2hh)

125 Bbbbrrrrrraaaaaaappppppp! Thought I needed to clear the room for a minute. Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 29, 2012 11:57 AM (ZOf1l) LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:58 AM (l86i3)

126 111 When it comes to incoherence you're a viking!!!

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 07:58 AM (XDC0v)

127 shouldn't that have been thwwwwwwap?

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:59 AM (nqBYe)

128 I give up.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 07:59 AM (l86i3)

129 Oldsailor, I've heard you have a book for sale! just in case any of us have missed it.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 07:59 AM (nqBYe)

130 If you guys don't settle down Old Sailor gonna pull over and force you to read his book....

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 08:00 AM (rBK2Z)

131 Yeah I'm done with that. Said what i wanted to say and did what I wanted to accomplish. Sorry for the distraction. The key to Schwarzkopf's campaign was the work of John Boyd

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:00 AM (XDC0v)

132 Here's a question... If you had a helicopter, why wouldn't you just ask your pilot to hover over the trapped men and lower a rope they can climb up... I could see this not being an option if they were under fire, but seems strange to not use it if you've got it...

Posted by: Joshua at December 29, 2012 11:50 AM (ktuSH)

The Vietnam story in not the cite I would have used - sounded like he was a dumb ass butter bar effin everything up (like in a bad war movie), he was actually a LTC...

Eventually, Schwarzkopf led his surviving men to safety by following a combat engineer out of the minefield. (fixed)

Posted by: Obamao at December 29, 2012 08:00 AM (JtyGg)

133 If you guys don't settle down Old Sailor gonna pull over and force you to read his book.... Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 12:00 PM (rBK2Z) LMAO!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:01 AM (l86i3)

134 shouldn't that have been

thwwwwwwap?

I'm a grown-assed man who spent over 16 years in Government service, my anus is much wider than that thank you very much.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 29, 2012 08:01 AM (ZOf1l)

135 If you guys don't settle down Old Sailor gonna pull over and force you to read his book.... Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 12:00 PM (rBK2Z) yes, but hey must pay for it first!

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:02 AM (nqBYe)

136 Boys I've got a belt!!11!!!

Posted by: Dad at December 29, 2012 08:02 AM (Y6HTt)

137 I'm a grown-assed man who spent over 16 years in Government service, my anus is much wider than that thank you very much. Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 29, 2012 12:01 PM (ZOf1l) Then that would be WOOOOSH, like a stiff wind through the Holland tunnel.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:02 AM (l86i3)

138 Samuel? thanks for that visual.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:03 AM (nqBYe)

139 133 Does the book have any pictures of the anatomical variety?

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:03 AM (XDC0v)

140 Thanks OSP, I didn't need that keyboard anyway.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 29, 2012 08:03 AM (ZOf1l)

141 Ok OSP I'll bite, is your book about teenage southern girl angst? Or have I misunderstood the hints, etc.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 08:03 AM (tlhtD)

142 133 Does the book have any pictures ofthe anatomical variety? Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 12:03 PM (XDC0v) No, but there is a really hot lesbian scene.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:03 AM (l86i3)

143 "They don't hand out Silver Stars for showing up."

They used to not hand out Nobel Peace Prizes for that either. I'm surprised nobody is demanding Obama get a Congressional Medal of Honor for killing Bin Laden (oh, crap, I just put an idea into Axelrod's head.)

Posted by: Buck O'Fama at December 29, 2012 08:04 AM (6jgPy)

144 136 Boys I've got a belt!!11!!! Posted by: Dad at December 29, 2012 12:02 PM (Y6HTt) 'hold this beer '

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:04 AM (nqBYe)

145 142 HUMAN lesbians?

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:05 AM (XDC0v)

146 We owe him a debt. He is to be revered alongside Grant and Washington.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman at December 29, 2012 08:05 AM (I2LwF)

147
Following a 12B aint a bad way to go.

Essayon, bub.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 29, 2012 08:05 AM (SAMxH)

148 Ok OSP I'll bite, is your book about teenage southern girl angst? Or have I misunderstood the hints, etc. Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 12:03 PM (tlhtD) If you go on Amazon there is a description I have written. And one review that I am very proud of, that I recently found out, was not my mother. It wasn'y my wife because she won't read. She knows what's real and what isn't and it's disturbing to her.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:06 AM (l86i3)

149 145 I bought a used copy of the book and those pages were stuck together. I consider that an endorsement

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:06 AM (XDC0v)

150 OSP When does the Audio version come out? Oh and did you get Brian Dennehy to do the voice work?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 08:06 AM (Y6HTt)

151 HUMAN lesbians? Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 12:05 PM (XDC0v) That's called a teaser, buy the book.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:06 AM (l86i3)

152 148 Name of book?

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 08:06 AM (tlhtD)

153 General Shwartzkopf. May he be remembered for his love of country, his strategic acumen, and his hearty demeanor. RIP

Posted by: Minuteman at December 29, 2012 08:07 AM (qs9G3)

154 perhaps by the end of the next 4 years they will have dinamited mt rushmore and put in Obama as the only worthy president.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:07 AM (nqBYe)

155 OSP When does the Audio version come out? Oh and did you get Brian Dennehy to do the voice work? Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 12:06 PM (Y6HTt) Couldn't afford him, had to go with Pee Wee Herman.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:07 AM (l86i3)

156 Miss USA is old enough to be my daughter FML

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:07 AM (XDC0v)

157 152 Err title. Duh.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 08:07 AM (tlhtD)

158 Naughty Ette.

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 08:08 AM (XLuH2)

159 148 Name of book? Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 12:06 PM (tlhtD) On my nic.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:08 AM (l86i3)

160 ah, 12 hours of football

I've got a 12 pack of cokes
a fifth of Jim Beam
5 packs of cigarettes
half a chocolate pie
3 Jiffy Pops
and I'm wearing sunglasses

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 08:08 AM (8sCoq)

161 May the Good General rest in peace. It really is a shame that we had one great general and he ruined it by going to work for TFG. I'm sure TFG has a lot to do with outing Petraeus for his affair. I think it was probably over Benghazi. We need great leaders, where are they?

Posted by: CarolT at December 29, 2012 08:08 AM (z4WKX)

162 I've got a 12 pack of cokes a fifth of Jim Beam 5 packs of cigarettes half a chocolate pie 3 Jiffy Pops and I'm wearing sunglasses Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 12:08 PM (8sCoq) CLICK IT!!!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:09 AM (l86i3)

163 Boy would I love to have one of his coins. A bigger than life man, that makes us remember why this is still a great nation even with JEFF.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:09 AM (wR+pz)

164 160 What could go wrong?

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 08:09 AM (tlhtD)

165 See this is supposed to be a somber memorial thread and all we're doing is telling jokes. I feel like a member of Westboro Baptist

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:09 AM (XDC0v)

166 Yes. Name of book OSP...enough tease.

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 08:11 AM (XLuH2)

167 Shwartzkopf was important to the VICTORY in Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Colin Powell will fade into obscurity as a self promoting, opportunistic lickspittle.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 29, 2012 08:11 AM (qs9G3)

168 Following a 12B aint a bad way to go.

And the 12B was just following a local.

Posted by: Obamao at December 29, 2012 08:11 AM (JtyGg)

169 Yes. Name of book OSP...enough tease. Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 12:11 PM (XLuH2) See my nic.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:11 AM (l86i3)

170 161 When the student is ready the teacher will appear. Likewise, when the people are ready the leader appears, more or less. Obama is a perverse example of this principle.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:12 AM (XDC0v)

171 >See this is supposed to be a sombermemorial thread and all we're doing is telling jokes. I feel like a member of Westboro Baptist

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 12:09 PM (XDC0v)

without going into detail, I'm approaching my saturation point on stuff to be upset/sad about. Really. I'm full.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 08:12 AM (8sCoq)

172 "...not enough beef cakepics and val-urite."

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 11:54 AM (nqBYe)

Beefcake is not my specialty, but I'll try.....

http://tinyurl.com/c9n52d3

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 08:12 AM (GsoHv)

173 I hear the new book Amy Lynn is well-reviewed and a compelling read.

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:13 AM (XDC0v)

174 171 You and me both

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:13 AM (XDC0v)

175 Ok Mr. July...I expect Lesbos

Posted by: Guido at December 29, 2012 08:14 AM (XLuH2)

176 I hear the new book Amy Lynn is well-reviewed and a compelling read. Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 12:13 PM (XDC0v)

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:14 AM (l86i3)

177 I hear the new book Amy Lynn is well-reviewed and a compelling read. Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 12:13 PM (XDC0v)

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:15 AM (l86i3)

178 176 And it has a lesbo scene

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:15 AM (XDC0v)

179 Name of Old Sailors book is
'I mean it, donÂ’t make me turn this car around 'Â…

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 08:15 AM (rBK2Z)

180 I hear the new book Amy Lynn is well-reviewed and a compelling read. Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 12:13 PM (XDC0v) I just can't read that enough.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:15 AM (l86i3)

181 Gotta agree, tired of all the crap. I raised a toast to the General, off to the hardware store, then beer in the hot tub with friends. Even if it is only 15 degrees outside.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 08:16 AM (QI2hh)

182 35 OSP - my reaction, exactly. $1/round!!!!

Posted by: butch at December 29, 2012 11:11 AM (nK2Sx)

FUCK. My 556 x 28 use to cost less than that. Maybe I should have waited the two hours to get in the gun show before Christmas.

Wonder what my 50 round FN PS90 clips are worth. Sound like a feeding frenzy. Don't tell pick up truck salesman, shit they might start giving AR away with a truck.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:16 AM (wR+pz)

183 Minuteman at December 29, 2012 12:11 PM (qs9G3) Minuteman-You are right that Colin Powell will not make the history books. I never liked him, he was supposed to be a republican and then endowed Obama in 2008 over McCain, a war hero. I can't believe he endorsed a community organizer over war hero. I wasn't happy with McCain being the nominee, his time was past but things would have been better with him that TFG!

Posted by: CarolT at December 29, 2012 08:17 AM (z4WKX)

184 Gotta agree, tired of all the crap. I raised a toast to the General, off to the hardware store, then beer in the hot tub with friends. Even if it is only 15 degrees outside. Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 12:16 PM (QI2hh) Oh man that sounds fun. Although when I was a young sailor I almost drowned in a hot tub once, Sitting by myself drinking a pitcher of Beam and Cokes, after about an hour I tried to get out and I could barely move. Scared the shit outta me.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:17 AM (l86i3)

185 Dave in Texas- But they do hand out Nobel prizes for showing up!

Posted by: CarolT at December 29, 2012 08:18 AM (z4WKX)

186 We owe him a debt. He is to be revered alongside Grant and Washington.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman at December 29, 2012 12:05 PM (I2LwF)

--------------------------------------------------

I'd put Schwarzkopf with Grant, Patton or any of the post revolutionary greats.

I know I'm going to catch a bit of flack for this, but I'm going to put Washington with generals like Ho Chi Minh.

He defeated the best army in the world with a seeming ragtag order of battle, but with a undeniable thirst for the outcome that he wanted. He never gave up even though all odds were against him. It was the political pressure put on the British king that to hold the colonies would be too high a price to pay, not only monetarily, but in blood. It was the same with Vietnam. And India (again, the British). I'm sure there's others but I haven't had enough coffee yet.

Posted by: Soona at December 29, 2012 08:18 AM (KD9An)

187 I just can't read that enough.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 12:15 PM (l86i3)

You should get AllenG to review it...if he only had a blog!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 08:19 AM (GsoHv)

188 Throw in a copy of the Anarchist cookbook.

Don't waste your money. I bought it and it is crap. Get SAS survival guide and military manuals. You can download a lot free to an android tablet. Apple, of course, charges or has none.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:20 AM (wR+pz)

189 CharlieBrown'sDild pretty nice, a little swarthier might be even better : P

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:21 AM (nqBYe)

190 but I'm going to put Washington with generals like Ho Chi Minh.

Posted by: Soona at December 29, 2012 12:18 PM (KD9An)

That's provocative, but it does make sense.

The profound difference of course is that Washington's goal was greater freedom, and Ho Chi Minh's goal was the creation of a repressive totalitarian government.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 08:21 AM (GsoHv)

191 188 Ranger Handbook is available cheap on ebay

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:21 AM (XDC0v)

192 Wait, there is Football and we have no elbows? I've been in Argentina, 85 degrees, so this football thing would be a nice relief.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:22 AM (wR+pz)

193 Don't waste your money. I bought it and it is crap. Get SAS survival guide and military manuals. You can download a lot free to an android tablet. Apple, of course, charges or has none. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 12:20 PM (wR+pz) I respectfully disagree, no, it's not a military manual but it does contain cheap and easy ways to fuck with you betters. You suggestion is also valuble.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:23 AM (l86i3)

194 sigh, i'm becoming so shallow. i blame you guys

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:23 AM (nqBYe)

195 Hey watch out for the AR's at that Fleet Farm site. They have a proprietary piston system and you don't want that at all-

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:24 AM (XDC0v)

196 Went to a gun show this week. Paid $10 just to get in, saw a bunch of used dirty looking, long-ass metal ARs for $2400. Found boxes of winchester 556 for $15 a box. Got excited, bought 3, then realized they were boxes of 20. $51 after tax for 60 rounds. Got in a bad mood and left Gun shows are a fucking rip off right now. Also, everyone working there was a dick. Guess they hate seeing ammunition fly off the shelves at inflated panic prices. So glad I got my brand new AR for $800 a few months ago. Perfect timing.

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 29, 2012 08:25 AM (FlKvB)

197 -194 sigh, i'm becoming so shallow.

i blame you guys Posted by: ette
----------------------------
I noticed I'm cussing more , but I blame our Kenyon Overlord and his minions...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 08:25 AM (rBK2Z)

198 >Wait, there is Football and we have no elbows?

well, it's Rice v Air Force

don't know if Rice has cheerleaders, and the Air Force cheerleaders are all defense contractors

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 08:26 AM (8sCoq)

199 sigh, i'm becoming so shallow. i blame you guys Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 12:23 PM (nqBYe) We cannot make you anything orther then what you capiciously describe as you own fundamental dedication to looking inward at the abyiss you describe within the greater context of your mortal self.

Posted by: Sean Penn at December 29, 2012 08:26 AM (l86i3)

200 don't know if Rice has cheerleaders, and the Air Force cheerleaders are all defense contractors Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 12:26 PM (8sCoq) Fat old guys with toupe's, Lol.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:27 AM (l86i3)

201 @193

I use to get Solider of Fortune magazine, before they went out of business.

Man, you got a lot of cool catalogs from their mailing list. I code my subs, so I know who sell my shit. I think most gun shows have guys selling good manuals and books. I would be a little nervous about ordering the Anarchist Cookbook from Amazon right now.

I found the information in the Cookbook, primitive at best and some was simply wrong. To much BS to little knowledge, but of course, I am already a Moron Anarchist, so maybe that is where I am coming from.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:28 AM (wR+pz)

202 the tanner gun show website has crashed

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 08:30 AM (8sCoq)

203 don't know if Rice has cheerleaders, and the Air Force cheerleaders are all defense contractors

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 12:26 PM (8sCoq)

Yeah, and after Jan 1 they are going to sequester all of them.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:30 AM (wR+pz)

204 Don't let the Fed Ex guy leave the ammo on the porch. The UPS guy might steal it. Or the other way around.

Posted by: Al at December 29, 2012 08:30 AM (V70Uh)

205 http://preview.tinyurl.com/bqpjcmg

Someone mentioned Air Force Cheerleaders?

And who is the woman wearing the Teddy?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 29, 2012 08:31 AM (GBDbf)

206 196 That's about what i would expect. After i discovered internet ammo prices I had no desire to go to shows any more

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:32 AM (XDC0v)

207 The profound difference of course is that Washington's goal was greater freedom, and Ho Chi Minh's goal was the creation of a repressive totalitarian government.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 12:21 PM (GsoHv)

----------------------------------------------------

Both believed vehemently in their causes.

It's one of the things I point out when I find myself in a conversation about a hot civil war. Before one commits himself to any cause, he has to ask himself three questions:

1. What exactly am I fighting against?

2. What exactly am I fighting for?

3. Am I willing to put myself in harm's way and possibly become horribly wounded or die for my cause?

Posted by: Soona at December 29, 2012 08:32 AM (KD9An)

208 Don't let the Fed Ex guy leave the ammo on the porch. The UPS guy might steal it. Or the other way around. Posted by: Al at December 29, 2012 12:30 PM (V70Uh) A few of those folks have turned into som thieven SOBs haven't they, almost as bad as the TSA.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:32 AM (l86i3)

209

Just bought a print. Link in nic.

Is 389.00 for a Mossberg 500 a fair deal? 12 gauge.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 08:32 AM (QI2hh)

210 204 He better have a strong back

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:33 AM (XDC0v)

211 204 Don't let the Fed Ex guy leave the ammo on the porch. The UPS guy might steal it. Or the other way around.

Just got back from S America trip, son had order four 25 round Ruger 10/22 clips. The UPS guy left them on the door.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:33 AM (wR+pz)

212 Is 389.00 for a Mossberg 500 a fair deal? 12 gauge. Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 12:32 PM (QI2hh) Used or new?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:34 AM (l86i3)

213

Why not set up buying clubs. Like, I buy an AR, and then sell it to you as a private citizen w/o government knowing a damn thing about it. Kinda like when a hight ranking ATF guy sells his weapon. Then you sell me an AR off the books.

Track that, bitch.

Posted by: Invictus at December 29, 2012 08:35 AM (OQpzc)

214 209 There are a lot of different models, but if it's available and you need a shotgun I'd say go

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:35 AM (XDC0v)

215 Does the Mossberg 500 have two barrels?

I bought a "combo" back in 1999 for Y2K. It just keeps going up in value.

Posted by: Al at December 29, 2012 08:35 AM (V70Uh)

216 @205

Nice, but what is with the woman in the white with the huge legs? She get to beat up the guy cheerleaders of something?

A white prom dress? WTF?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:36 AM (wR+pz)

217 213 Besides it being a felony, no objections

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 08:36 AM (XDC0v)

218 OSP, new, from Mossberg. Says outta stock right now, but I'm watching it. May hit some local pawn shops, will take a buddy with me.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 08:37 AM (QI2hh)

219 I suspect the woman in the white dress is the coach.

Posted by: Al at December 29, 2012 08:37 AM (V70Uh)

220 OSP, new, from Mossberg. Says outta stock right now, but I'm watching it. May hit some local pawn shops, will take a buddy with me. Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 12:37 PM (QI2hh) Yep, I think it's good if you can get it.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:37 AM (l86i3)

221

Not to be impolite, well, actually to be pointing out the fucking obvious...

If you didn't already have an EBR, as many magazines as you wanted and a few thousand rounds of ammo you are going to pay dearly.

Welcome to the sellers market courtesy of TFG and the retard from CA.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at December 29, 2012 08:38 AM (IanLz)

222 Private gun sales between indviduals a felony? First I've heard of that.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 08:38 AM (tlhtD)

223 >Nice, but what is with the woman in the white with the huge legs? She get to beat up the guy cheerleaders of something?

A white prom dress? WTF?

uh, if you look at the pic full size, you'll see that she is an older lady trying real hard

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 08:38 AM (8sCoq)

224 80% lowers are doing very well right now. The key to it all is not to panic buy

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 08:38 AM (XDC0v)

225 Hey watch out for the AR's at that Fleet Farm site. They have a proprietary piston system and you don't want that at all->>

You want a full gas tube system? Oh and mot of the piston systems are proprietary. Know if you know something particular about the Huldra system please do tell.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 29, 2012 08:38 AM (Y6HTt)

226 Besides it being a felony, no objections

Posted by: DAve at December 29, 2012 12:36 PM (XDC0v)

How is that a felony?

Posted by: Invictus at December 29, 2012 08:38 AM (OQpzc)

227 Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 12:36 PM (wR+pz) Keep in mid, those girls from the AFA are also UBER smart.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:39 AM (l86i3)

228 I'll keep looking. Already have a friend wanting to teach me to reload.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 08:39 AM (QI2hh)

229 218 Prob a looooooong time 'til it comes back in stock- I'd do the pawnshop tour and sooner is much better

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 08:39 AM (XDC0v)

230 We cannot make you anything orther then what you capiciously describe as you own fundamental dedication to looking inward at the abyiss you describe within the greater context of your mortal self. Posted by: Sean Penn at December 29, 2012 12:26 PM (l86i3) I prefer to just blame you guys. easier. goes back to my navel gazing.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:39 AM (nqBYe)

231 PS... RIP General

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at December 29, 2012 08:39 AM (IanLz)

232 222 Is it just in beautiful CA.?

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 08:40 AM (XDC0v)

233 @223

I'd do her! Course, I am moron.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:40 AM (wR+pz)

234 226 Don't you guys have to do background checks with private sales? Is that the "gun show loophole"?

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 08:41 AM (XDC0v)

235 Yea, shoulda got it last summer, but car repairs put the kabosh on that. Only cash dontcha know.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 08:41 AM (QI2hh)

236 >I'd do her! Course, I am moron.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 12:40 PM (wR+pz)

yeah who am I kidding- and I'd consider myself lucky

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 08:41 AM (8sCoq)

237 Don't worry, us morons will be getting plenty of opportunities to distinguish ourselves. Soon.

Posted by: TheTruth at December 29, 2012 08:42 AM (iHeMr)

238 OSP, new, from Mossberg. Says outta stock right now, but I'm watching it. May hit some local pawn shops, will take a buddy with me.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 12:37 PM (QI2hh)

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It all comes down to how badly you want it. If it were me, I'd wait until the next gun show and try to trade a less favorable piece, to bring the price down, for what I really wanted. I have several guns that, if I absolutely needed to, I'd be able to trade for something better.

Posted by: Soona at December 29, 2012 08:42 AM (KD9An)

239 I'll keep looking. Already have a friend wanting to teach me to reload. Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 12:39 PM (QI2hh) Checking Cabelas that price seems ok. you might order it from cabelas and have them ship it to your FFL same with Bass Proshops. Cheaper than Dirt isn't cheap any more Brownells and Midway have limited orders to handle the panic, CTD seems to be raising prices to handle the panic

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 29, 2012 08:43 AM (jfSqj)

240 Good thing about pump-action shotguns is that they generally last forever. If it looks ok it usually will be

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 08:44 AM (XDC0v)

241 234 I guess so Dave. Never heard any problem with private gun sales, but I am in the South and we don't take kindly to government intervention in anything we do, especially when it comes to guns.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 08:44 AM (tlhtD)

242 234 226 Don't you guys have to do background checks with private sales? Is that the "gun show loophole"?

Private sales, sales between private individuals, not dealers, in most states do not require a background check.

Think about it. How could you? My brother wants to sell me his gun cause he needs some meth? What he's going to do a background check? How could he? He's not a dealer. ATF and FBI don't let individuals call up and ask about people.

Also, background check cost money and only a guy with the code can call one in.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:45 AM (wR+pz)

243 I noticed I'm cussing more , but I blame our Kenyon Overlord and his minions... Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 29, 2012 12:25 PM (rBK2Z) i have learned many new terms to defame others since reading here. and have found myself slipping them into conversations in the real world. sigh.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:45 AM (nqBYe)

244 but it's never boring!

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:45 AM (nqBYe)

245 Hey Jake just finish-machined my 7 80% lowers last night. 20 min. on the CNC. I pushed the start button all by myself!!!

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 08:46 AM (XDC0v)

246 i have learned many new terms to defame others since reading here. and have found myself slipping them into conversations in the real world. sigh. Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 12:45 PM (nqBYe) I thought this was real and everything else is fake.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:46 AM (l86i3)

247

Sadly, we are running out of men like Gen. Schwarzkopf.

O/T, but this is simply awesome http://tinyurl.com/cjrl569

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 29, 2012 08:46 AM (Yhu4q)

248 Thanks Jake. I'll try Cabela's no Bass Pro here. The prob is I don't want a backround check, just 'cause. Got a girlfriend whose son is a dealer.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 08:46 AM (QI2hh)

249 242 "Think about it. How could you? My brother wants to sell me his gun cause he needs some meth? What he's going to do a background check?" If he's in CA., the answer is YES and wait 10 days as well

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 08:47 AM (XDC0v)

250 Well, I DO have FIVE pistol permits sitting here. Maybe it's time to get a short barrel Uzi, my long barrel is stupid looking.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:48 AM (wR+pz)

251 248 Gun dealer or drug dealer?

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 08:48 AM (XDC0v)

252 I guess so Dave. Never heard any problem with private gun sales, but I am in the South and we don't take kindly to government intervention in anything we do, especially when it comes to guns.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2012 12:44 PM (tlhtD)

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True.

Posted by: Soona at December 29, 2012 08:48 AM (KD9An)

253 Gun dealer or drug dealer? Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 12:48 PM (XDC0v) Hey, thats what popped into my head.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 08:48 AM (l86i3)

254 246 Yes, this is gladiator school

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 08:49 AM (XDC0v)

255 254 Without the sweaty men. Well, speaking for myself at least

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 08:50 AM (XDC0v)

256

Hey Jake just finish-machined my 7 80% lowers last night. 20 min. on the CNC. I pushed the start button all by myself!!!

Heh. For as many times as pressed the Cycle Start button on a CNC machine over the years, I kept anticipating a banana would appear at some point.

It never happened.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 29, 2012 08:50 AM (yiIja)

257

Anyone near Texas who would like to trade an M1 for a Weatherby .375 H and H magnum? It is in great shape and we can go through a gun dealer if you want. I bought it when I thought I was moving to Alaska and wanted something bigger than a 30.06 in case I ran into a grizzly. Walnut stock, Leopold scope.

Up close you could shoot that deer even if he was hiding behind a car.

Posted by: Invictus at December 29, 2012 08:51 AM (OQpzc)

258 256 A banana appeared when i removed my first finished lower from the machine, IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 08:51 AM (XDC0v)

259 Hey Jake just finish-machined my 7 80% lowers last night. 20 min. on the CNC. I pushed the start button all by myself!!! Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet sales at December 29, 2012 12:46 PM (XDC0v) now if we could just figgure out how to do that with 30 round mags, we could print money

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 29, 2012 08:52 AM (jfSqj)

260 I had a discussion like this in ROTC. I would not have entered the minefield to save the man's life. Why not? Saved one, lost 3 others and crippled a 4th. We don't even know if the original man lived and he apparently would have had a shattered leg. Now, that doesn't mean I would just leave wounded men to die anywhere, but I wouldn't play the odds in a minefield.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 29, 2012 08:53 AM (Kbllt)

261 I thought this was real and everything else is fake. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 29, 2012 12:46 PM (l86i3) heh, I thought you guys only appear at my whim.

Posted by: ette at December 29, 2012 08:53 AM (nqBYe)

262 256 As of right now, we're paying $65 each to run the program. That's going up to $100 each soon I hear and I bet. In case you're looking to make some $$$...

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 08:53 AM (XDC0v)

263

256 A banana appeared when i removed my first finished lower from the machine, IYKWIMAITYD

I'll bet it did.

How about we develop "CNC Treats?" Machinists don't know it's not bacon.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 29, 2012 08:54 AM (yiIja)

264 259 It would happen, but they're still too cheap. Can you imagine how many have been made worldwide in the last 50 years? Almost makes banning them seem stupid and pointless...

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 08:56 AM (XDC0v)

265 263 AR blueprints are freely available online

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 08:57 AM (XDC0v)

266 There is nothing like a couple of rum and diet cokes to undo 12 hours of fucking flying. Now if I can just get a shower before I pass out the day will be a success.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 29, 2012 08:57 AM (wR+pz)

267 FYI, If you have a firearm pricing question, check with several of the below just to get a gut check, if they carry the item Cabelas Bass Pro Shops MidwayUSA Brownells and with that I'm off to the gym

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 29, 2012 08:58 AM (jfSqj)

268 Posted by: Invictus at December 29, 2012 12:51 PM (OQpzc)

Ouch.

I can fire my M1 all day. That .375 is not quite as gentle.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 08:58 AM (GsoHv)

269 266 Word.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2012 08:58 AM (QI2hh)

270 257 Invictus "Up close you could shoot that deer even if he was hiding behind a car." You might want to reconsider your offer. You just might find this capability useful ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 29, 2012 09:00 AM (q9m86)

271 Umm, DiT, not to hound or anything, but it's half past Pointy Elbow Time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 29, 2012 09:00 AM (yiIja)

272 I can fire my M1 all day. That .375 is not quite as gentle.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 29, 2012 12:58 PM (GsoHv)

Yeah, bumping the scope and having to resight it will make you cry. Actually, just the thought will make you cry. Makes a big bang though. If you take it to a deer club, you get BFG bragging rights and everyone will know when you take a shot.

Posted by: Invictus at December 29, 2012 09:01 AM (OQpzc)

273 As a placeholder, I'd like to note that General Schwarzkopf's ancestry is explicitly German, and that he never was dishonored for it. Chester W. Nimitz was of obvious Germanic descent, too, and he has an aircraft carrier named after him. As does Eisenhower. How far we have come from the days of Woodrow Wilson.

Posted by: T. at December 29, 2012 09:01 AM (XDtG+)

274 273 Hello my XD brotha!!!

Posted by: DAve, who gets a cut of all internet gun sales at December 29, 2012 09:02 AM (XDC0v)

275

They don't hand out Silver Stars for showing up.

-Dave in Texas

In Lyndon Baines Johnson's case, that's exactly what happened. How did a Reserve Naval Officer passenger about a B-26 become the recipient of the Silver Star when the crew members of the aircraft stated it returned to base with generator problems and was never attacked?

The Silver Star is awarded for gallantry in action against an enemy force, and the only enemy Johnson ever encountered was republicans. Both LBJ and Jon Kerry are frauds.

Posted by: Dr Fish, TDY to SAT for ill mom at December 29, 2012 09:10 AM (ndqJC)

276 BTW it looks like WVA's bowl game up in the Bronx today will be in a full on snowstorm

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 29, 2012 09:16 AM (8sCoq)

277 Trekkie trivia: Actress Marianna Hill from episode "Dagger of the Mind" is cousin of Norman Schwarzkopf.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 29, 2012 09:21 AM (3JFLq)

278 The General's father, the one who founded the NJ state police, was one of the two master-spies who unsettled the first revolutionary government in Iran and put the Shah in power. It kind of figures that the most successful spies in US history would be named Norman and Kermit.

When Iranians go off about the US running everything, that is the incident they have in mind.

Posted by: comatus at December 29, 2012 09:41 AM (qaVK+)

279 Grrrrr, with ESPN "owning" all the bowl games I have to travel 1/2 HR + to hang out at a bar and watch em. Gonna do that for K-State but...

Posted by: teej at December 29, 2012 09:41 AM (+8t8s)

280 Oh, and Gen Schwarzkopf was one hell of a trap-shooter, in retirement.
He had a Beretta SO5, over/under. Beretta also made him a personalized SO6.

Posted by: comatus at December 29, 2012 09:45 AM (qaVK+)

281 "In my opinion, the NRA has gone the way of the AARP,it's all about hawking high intrest credit cards ansd the like."

NRA for me lost all credibility when they got palsy with Harry Reid.

Former NRA member. Not one thin dime from me after that Reid business. Not one polished penny. Ever again.

Gun Owners of America. What the NRA wish they were.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 29, 2012 09:54 AM (gqT4g)

282 They may not hand out Silver Stars for just showing up but they certainly hand out Nobel Peace Prize's for showing up-oh, and being of the correct political ilk. Just ask our SCOAMF Prez'dent.

Posted by: salty dog at December 29, 2012 09:58 AM (VDovR)

283 ;">God rest him !

Posted by: Lisa at December 29, 2012 10:27 AM (hpbnq)

284

You are/were a stud Sir. Americas finest.

RIP.

Posted by: Andrew at December 29, 2012 11:20 AM (u5GDF)

285 Leaders lead, from the front, by example.

Which is why there are so few old leaders. As the saying goes "There are old soldiers, there are bold soldiers; but there are few old, bold soldiers."

Godspeed you, sir.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at December 29, 2012 12:21 PM (gmoEG)

286 They don't hand out Silver Stars for showing up.

LBJ: Well there have been cases where that has happened

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 29, 2012 01:34 PM (XDmGo)

287 "They don't hand out Silver Stars for showing up." Meet John Kerry. He even got to write his own citation.

Posted by: javapoppa at December 29, 2012 01:50 PM (yapmr)

288

'the passing"... A wimpy way of saying DEATH. Deal with it. God Bless and God Speed General Schwarzkopf .

Posted by: Iggy at December 29, 2012 03:55 PM (5Cwv4)

289 They don't hand out silver stars for showing up? Clearly you've never served in the military, go chat with Pat Tilman and see what he has to say about this. The military is as bureaucratic and political as any other part of the government.

Posted by: Andrew at December 29, 2012 05:36 PM (HS3dy)

290 BTW, just to add, I don't actually know anything about Schwarzkopf, may have been a great man, so don't misunderstand my remarks. That one line just rubbed me the wrong way. A lot of clown awards have been handed out.

Posted by: Andrew at December 29, 2012 05:38 PM (HS3dy)

291

For what it's worth, my dad went dove-hunting several times with Gen. Schwartzkopf in Fayoum, just outside of Cairo, along with Frank Wisner, our Ambassador to Egypt at the time. Says he was a very regular guy, more so than most generals - a hail-fellow-well-met, and a pretty good shot with a 12-gauge. Soldiers accompanying him, a major and a lieutenant, were also provided shotguns, assigned positions (blinds) and allowed to hunt, which wasn't common for "dignitary's "companions on these dove hunts. My dad also said he was a hell of a lot bigger in person than he looked on TV. RIP General.