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January 03, 2012

This is How the Sausage is Made
— Russ from Winterset

Hey, just got back from helping out at one of the 4 caucus locations here in Madison County, Iowa. We had the South Half of Winterset and the fairly rural SW quarter of the County caucusing at the Middle School here in Winterset. The North 1/2 of town & the NE quarter of the County were about 2 blocks away at the Jr. High School, and the NW and SE quarters of the County were in Earlham and Truro, respectively.

The raw numbers from my home County? Here you go:

Santorum.......223
Paul...............221
Romney.........170
Perry.............154
Gingrich.........144
Bachmann........54
Huntsman..........5
Cain..................1
Roemer.............1
"No Preference"..1
"Other"..............1

Here's the numbers from the DSM Register as of 9:20 CST (49.5% reporting):

Santorum 24.3%
Romney 23.6%
RuPaul 21.8%
Gingrich 13.3%
Perry 10.1%
Bachmann 5.6%
Huntsman 0.6%
"Other" 0.4% (229 votes)
Cain 0.0% (23 votes)
Roemer 0.0% ( 9 votes)

What does it all mean? Beats the hell out of me. Santorum seems to be the current recipient of all the Evangelical "Not Romney" votes, with Paul getting enough votes to grab the "coveted" 3rd place slot in Iowa (which, IIRC, Pat Robertson used to coast to victory in the General Election in 1988. Or not.). Gingrich & Perry probably also survive to fight another day, but I'm thinking that Drew's idea of the lesser of the two being used as an electoral "organ donor" to keep the other one going is on the right track.

The big news of the night? Michelle "I was born in Iowa" Bachmann is done. Stick a fork in her....or if you're our bald-headed prick of a state senator Kent Sorenson, you can stick a knife in her back instead (again). A 6th place finish wouldn't be so bad, except for the fact that she WON the freaking Iowa Straw Poll back in August.

The rest? Huntsman has declared that "Iowa picks corn, New Hampshire picks Presidents". That's a neat soundbite. Maybe he should call Rudy Giuliani to see if it gets a chuckle out of him? He's an electoral dead man walkin', he just doesn't know it yet.

Cain? Well, if he had any illusions about restarting his campaign due to a groundswell of support from the Iowa grassroots, they were pretty much shitcanned by the fact that he just got beat by "Other". By an approximately 10:1 ratio.

Roemer? Shit, he's still in the race? Apparently not if he only got 9 votes so far.

All I know for sure now is that January 4th is a New State Holiday here in Iowa: If they can declare a holiday for St. Patrick driving all the snakes out of Ireland, we can sure as hell declare a holiday to commemorate the day that all the candidates & operatives packed up & headed for New Hampshire.

At least our phone won't be ringing every 5 minutes the rest of the week. So I've got that to look forward to.

Posted by: Russ from Winterset at 07:00 PM | Comments (146)
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1 Ok.. So, we got a Romney/Santorum ticket!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 03, 2012 07:02 PM (UTq/I)

2 Third! Like ronpaul

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 03, 2012 07:03 PM (vWZa0)

3 I like Santorum too, I hope he can close the deal.

Posted by: navybrat at January 03, 2012 07:05 PM (9T/h2)

4 You mean to tell me your county voted two guys that cannot win the nomination 1st and 2nd? Your neighbors are morons. Why do we let Iowa go first again?

Posted by: Opinionator at January 03, 2012 07:06 PM (H14Av)

5 My wife told me that the Paul "observers" watching our precinct count votes were standing right on top of the table where the count was taking place, and kept injecting themselves into the conversations. She said she was VERY tempted to turn around and tell them "There's a big difference between OBSERVER and COMMENTER!"

Posted by: Russ from Winterset at January 03, 2012 07:06 PM (NqRFe)

6 NH: Another open primary for the dems to stuff the ballots for ronpaul.

Posted by: rabidfox at January 03, 2012 07:07 PM (5qnlK)

Buddy Roehmer I like. Too bad he never went anywhere.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you disagree you hate America and want Obama to win at January 03, 2012 07:07 PM (fUGwd)

8 4You mean to tell me your county voted two guys that cannot win the nomination 1st and 2nd? Your neighbors are morons. Why do we let Iowa go first again?

Posted by: Opinionator at January 03, 2012 11:06 PM (H14Av)

So please tell me where YOU'RE from? I'd love to hear about the place where idiots NEVER get votes and every member of your congressional delegation is a sterling example of fiscal sanity.

Let me guess: California?

Posted by: Russ from Winterset at January 03, 2012 07:08 PM (NqRFe)

9 Paul's not in first? Sweet!

If you took away the not Republicans voting for him, he'd be around 8%.

Posted by: Willy at January 03, 2012 07:09 PM (PfRBb)

Kinda depressed about Perry. He had some campaign flubs, certainly. So did every candidate, but because everyone knew that Perry was the only one who could rival Romney for resources, his gaffes were jumped on by everyone. Oh well. Our options are now a nobody an insane nobody, and two guys who think AGW and individual mandates are just swell, and the "conservative" one serially cheated on two wives who were terminally ill.

Yeah. Good times.

Posted by: Boone at January 03, 2012 07:14 PM (eyTK1)

11 Idiots get plenty of votes here in NC. Especially in Gerrymandered districts like the one I live in. But for Santorum and Paul to go 1/2 is a reason to reconsider our candidates having to go to Iowa first and influencing the direction of the primaries. The process and results are simply not serious and make Republicans look like numbskulls. But if it makes you feel better, I am a San Diego State grad.

Posted by: Opinionator at January 03, 2012 07:14 PM (H14Av)

12
So after all the talk and bluster about Iowa we have......no decision. Good thing they spent all that money and time there.

but here is what I really do not get....why did the cain, no preference and other voters even show up...were they looking to pick up chicks?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 03, 2012 07:15 PM (JYheX)

13
With nearly 90% of vote in, all big metro counties to Romney including Polk, Dallas, Johnson, Linn, Scott, Pottawattamie, Dubuque

DMR

The remaining counties flipped off Mitt's private jet as it flew overhead....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 03, 2012 07:16 PM (3wBRE)

14 The amoral pragmatists who think morality has nothing to do with conservatism, or that anything "conservative" may originate from anyplace but consistently moral behavior should consider NOT voting at all.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 07:19 PM (+FrDx)

15 Getting a little tired of Morons saying Newt cheated on two terminal wives. They were not terminal and they were already getting divorced.

Posted by: jaimo at January 03, 2012 07:19 PM (srg6T)

16 My precinct in Ames (Story County, Iowa State University) wound up like this:

Paul 25
Romney 24
Santorum 15
Gingrich 11
Perry 11
Bachmann 6
Huntsman 4
Cain 0

Turnout was very light, compared to 2008.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at January 03, 2012 07:20 PM (n1GKc)

17 Romney's pretty much a dick, isn't he? A limp one.

Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 03, 2012 07:21 PM (ybkwK)

My precinct (Winterset South) went like this:

Santorum 39

Paul 35

Romney 31

Gingrich 22

Perry 20

Bachmann 6

everyone else....zero, zip, nada

Posted by: Russ from Winterset at January 03, 2012 07:22 PM (NqRFe)

19 Jaimo - just because you ultimately survive doesn't mean its not terminal.

Posted by: Boone at January 03, 2012 07:23 PM (eyTK1)

20
Actually I kinda hope mitt wins Iowa since that is usually the death knell for a candidate.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 03, 2012 07:28 PM (JYheX)

21 1988

Pat Robertson 25%

1996

Bob Dole 26%
Pat Buchannan 23%

2008

Mike Huckabee 34%

Posted by: Shiggz at January 03, 2012 07:28 PM (RfvTE)

I hate to say this, because people are proud of their state, but Iowa and New Hampshire should not have this kind of power. Iowa's a small state, moderate to liberal, and addicted to politicians subsidizing ethanol and agriculture. New Hampshire's a tiny, liberal state. By letting them go first, you get moderate squishy Republican candidates. And in the general, when independents get to choose between a squish and a commie like Obama who at least believes what he's saying, they're gonna go with the person with the stronger belief system.

Why can't there be two primaries? All the states vote on the same day in January; a month later they vote again among the three top vote-getters. I'm sure there are problems with that, but there has to be a more relevant way than letting Iowa and New Hampshire decide the future of the country because that's how it's always been done.

Posted by: Palandine at January 03, 2012 07:29 PM (g7D8V)

23 I've been watching carefully, and I am now CONVINCED that RICK "RICKSANITY" SANTORUM will be the candidate that will defeat BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMER in 2112. HOLD THE RED STAR PROUDLY HIGH IN HAND!

Posted by: Defeat Paul, What a Loon at January 03, 2012 07:29 PM (gj4aA)

24 IIRC, Rudy's winning plan was to write off Iowa and New Hampshire to concentrate on the "Sixth Borough" of Florida. I was in the ballroom in Orlando when he announced the success of that strategy.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 03, 2012 07:32 PM (RJOgX)

25 Why did Rick Perry have to turn into the lawyer from My Cousin Vinny every time he opened his mouth in a debate? Son of a bitch.

Posted by: Dave S. at January 03, 2012 07:33 PM (UvR6d)

26 Continuing my fun facts of Iowa caucus history

1980

Carter 59%
Ted Kennedy 31%

1984

Mondale 49%
John Glenn 4%

Posted by: Shiggz at January 03, 2012 07:34 PM (RfvTE)

27 Michelle B. wants to get this over with quick and be off to bed. Migraines setting in fast.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 03, 2012 07:36 PM (2YIVk)

28 http://tinyurl.com/7ej4yay There can only be one.

Posted by: EBL at January 03, 2012 07:36 PM (UwxZ1)

29 6, 9 I wonder how many of the Luap Nor supporters registered as Republicans at the door

Posted by: Fox2! at January 03, 2012 07:37 PM (RJOgX)

Posted by: Palandine at January 03, 2012 11:29 PM (g7D8V)

This is a continental sized republic. How are the candidates supposed to campaign? Its a long process because we test the endurance and steadiness of candidates and we give them the opportunity to actually meet and persuade voters by limiting the battlefield. If you nationalize the primaries by turning the us into 2 giant districts, that vote 4 weeks apart, nobody will ever again meet a contender personally. The long locally limited process is necessary, but its true Iowa and New Hampshire play too big a role and something should be done about that.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 03, 2012 07:39 PM (q3zGg)

31 @22

If you think New Hampshire is a liberal state then you don't know it very well. New Hampshire is like Utah compared to the rest of New England, very economically conservative.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at January 03, 2012 07:40 PM (sCI7M)

32 Third place. Catch the Paulmentum!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 03, 2012 07:40 PM (vzFJV)

33 Even though I've taken the time to read this thread and all the comments, I have no opinion on this thread and hereby vote Other.

Posted by: Idiot Independent at January 03, 2012 07:42 PM (mM45n)

34 So did the tea party win or was that so 2008-2010. Such a short life with so much more to give and died before given anything of lasting effort.

Posted by: Tjexcite at January 03, 2012 07:43 PM (sk1Ym)

35 Boone, she had a benign tumid removed. Big whoop!

Posted by: jaimo at January 03, 2012 07:44 PM (srg6T)

36 @thefix: Turnout estimated to be 123K, which would be a record. 119K in '08 was past high. #iacaucus

michellemalkin MT @pollinsider: If current figures hold, should be about 2,200 votes to split between Rick & Mitt. W/80 separating now

Posted by: Miss80s at January 03, 2012 07:45 PM (d6QMz)

37 But, but......all the party switchers we bused in were supposed to cruise Ron Paul to victory!?

Posted by: Awful McNasty's boxers at January 03, 2012 07:45 PM (SiOVz)

38 As I've always maintained, the RICKSANITY will roll across this GREAT NATION, lending credence to the GREAT STATE of IOWA as a bellwether of our BODY POLITIC. All of you HATERS who DISCOUNTED the IOWANIACS who arrived in DROVES to BROKER a FANTASTIC WIN for CONSERVATISM in the person of OUR MAN RICK "RICKTACULOUS" SANTORUM, SUCK IT.

Posted by: Defeat Paul, What a Loon at January 03, 2012 07:46 PM (gj4aA)

39 I get your point about New Hampshire.

Side note Utah is very different then portrayed. For instance, every mayor of Salt Lake City since 1976 has been a Democrat. Some of them openly anti-Mormon.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 03, 2012 07:47 PM (RfvTE)

40 Yea, but NH is becoming increasingly liberal because they cant keep the scumbag yuppies from Boston from moving there and bringing their MA politics with them.

Posted by: jaimo at January 03, 2012 07:47 PM (srg6T)

41 postpolitics UPDATE: 96% reporting in #IAcaucus... Santorum at 24.6% ( 28,958 ), Romney at 24.6% (28,879), Paul at (25,044)

Posted by: Miss80s at January 03, 2012 07:47 PM (d6QMz)

42
Iowa state GOP official Doug Heye said Tuesday there will be no recount, even if Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney are exceptionally close when the vote count is finished.

Heye said votes were counted under the supervision of campaign representatives, who certified the totals. He said the numbers were double-checked when they were reported to state officials, and there is no reason to check them again.

Gosh, I wonder if Mitt will somehow manage to juuuuust edge in front at the tape....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 03, 2012 07:48 PM (3wBRE)

43
But, but......all the party switchers we bused in were supposed to cruise Ron Paul to victory!?
Posted by: Awful McNasty's boxers

They never made it to Iowa. They were all Libertarians, so nobody wanted to chip in for gas...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 03, 2012 07:50 PM (3wBRE)

44 philipaklein Santorum campaign rep here at the rally says there's currently a "standoff" b/w him and Mitt over who goes first given close race.

Posted by: Miss80s at January 03, 2012 07:50 PM (d6QMz)

45 12 Not a bad idea.

Posted by: Big T Party at January 03, 2012 07:51 PM (hC5jI)

46 Jaimo, you apparently have never dealt with cancer patients. Any cancer is a big whoop.

Posted by: Boone at January 03, 2012 07:53 PM (eyTK1)

47 Did I remember to say "fuck Iowa and the mentally challenged caucus voters who live there?" (present company excluded, of course). Wait, I think I did. Bears repeating though. You can't write it off as a minority of idiots when they're in the majority. The RNC needs to stomp out this "Iowa first" bullshit once and for all. Toss all their delagates if they hold a straw poll or caucus before Super Tuesday. Or, preferably, July.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 07:54 PM (X3vSL)

48 Remind me why we hate Rick Santorum again? Never gave the guy a serious look before so I barely know his policy stances.

I do get creepy Huckabee like vibes from him though.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at January 03, 2012 07:54 PM (TCyyS)

49 2 candidates lead Ron Paul ... a multi-polar result .. so unPolaR wins anyway ... just like on teh intarwebz ...

Posted by: Arbalest at January 03, 2012 07:55 PM (Ji3lj)

50 Jaimo, you apparently have never dealt with cancer patients. Any cancer is a big whoop.

Ummm .... if a tumor is benign, it is by definition "not cancer".

Posted by: mama winger at January 03, 2012 07:55 PM (P6QsQ)

51 Disappointed by perrys performance. Bachman n say she is still in the race????? Ugh!!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 03, 2012 07:57 PM (FKQng)

52 This sucks.

Posted by: TypicalWhitey at January 03, 2012 07:57 PM (xeVap)

The RNC needs to stomp out this "Iowa first" bullshit once and for all. Toss all their delagates if they hold a straw poll or caucus before Super Tuesday. Or, preferably, July.

Finally, something we can all agree on. Iowa goes last now.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you disagree you hate America and want Obama to win at January 03, 2012 07:57 PM (fUGwd)

54 Dude, leave me the hell out of your all-caps lunacy. Mmkay?

Posted by: Gavia Pacifica at January 03, 2012 07:58 PM (mM45n)

55 Perry's out. Returning to TX.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 07:59 PM (X3vSL)

56 48 Remind me why we hate Rick Santorum again? Never gave the guy a serious look before so I barely know his policy stances. tinyurl.com/CatoSanto: "This whole idea of personal autonomy, well I donÂ’t think most conservatives hold that point of view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldnÂ’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldnÂ’t get involved in cultural issues. You know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals canÂ’t go it alone. That there is no such society that I am aware of, where weÂ’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture." tinyurl.com/10thamok ""This is the 10th Amendment run amuck,Â” Santorum said, Â“Michele Bachmann says that she would go in and fight health care being imposed by the states, but she wouldn't go in and fight marriage being imposed by the states. That would be OK. We have Ron Paul saying, whatever the states want to do under the 10th Amendment that's fine, so if states want to pass polygamy that's fine, if the states want to impose sterilization that's fine. We are a nation that was built on a moral enterprise and states don't have the right to tramp over those because of the 10th Amendment.Â”" And he's also a big spender and admitted "big government conservative".

Posted by: wooga at January 03, 2012 07:59 PM (vjyZP)

57 We don't hate RICK SANTORUM, not while he's WINNING. RICK "RICKTACULOUS" "RICKSANITY" SANTORUM stands for many things: 1) America! 2) Freedom! (A bit, if it's convenient and safe.) 3) Winning! (In every battlefield ever, now and in the future!) 4) Family! 5) Small Government! (If it's Bad Government. Good Government is good!) 6) Things you like! (Such as America! and Family!) 7) Not things you don't like! (Such as Losing!

and dead Family!

) This is the platform we can all get behind, for America!

Posted by: Defeat Paul, What a Loon at January 03, 2012 07:59 PM (gj4aA)

58 The Tea Party squeezed orange faced Charlie Crist (Obama butt lover) out of the party and pushed an unknown Marco Rubio over the top.

That one decision may very well affect and reorient conservative politics for a half a century. Rubio may rank with FDR and Reagan of those who created a new political coalition and reoriented the ideology of the parties.... If about a half of Hispanics can be brought into the conservative coalition.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 03, 2012 08:00 PM (RfvTE)

59 TheFix "I've decided to return to Texas, assess the results of tonight's caucus...." -- Perry. #iacaucus

Posted by: Miss80s at January 03, 2012 08:00 PM (d6QMz)

The RNC needs to stomp out this "Iowa first" bullshit once and for all. Toss all their delagates if they hold a straw poll or caucus before Super Tuesday. Or, preferably, July.

Finally, something we can all agree on. Iowa goes last now.

Maybe they could move the 2016 caucus up to the day after the Nov 2011 election. Who cares if anyone has declared an interest.

Posted by: someone at January 03, 2012 08:00 PM (bqjJT)

61 Perry's on the ropes. It's a damn shame.

Posted by: Yip at January 03, 2012 08:00 PM (Mrdk1)

62 I'm tied with Cain !!

Posted by: other at January 03, 2012 08:01 PM (UqKQV)

63 @48 Iowa voters always get "Pastor In Chief" confused with "Commander In Chief".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:01 PM (X3vSL)

64 RICK PERRY!

Posted by: RICK PERRY! at January 03, 2012 08:01 PM (vOH26)

65 Santorum, Santorum, Santorum. Just rolling it around on my tongue some to see how it feels?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:02 PM (eCnLg)

66 I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of freaking Iowa

Posted by: Yip at January 03, 2012 08:02 PM (Mrdk1)

67 48 Remind me why we hate Rick Santorum again?

The guy comes off as a dick?

(Yeah, that's starting to seem like a petty reason at this point.)

Posted by: AD at January 03, 2012 08:03 PM (v5FAc)

68 Looks like Newt is a tad POed at Romney and is gonna be gunning for him in New Hampshire. That ought help Santorum

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:03 PM (eCnLg)

69 32 Third place. Catch the Paulmentum! ------------------------ Paul came in 5th in the 2008 Iowa caucus with 10% He's doubled those results in 2012. I'd call that momentum.

Posted by: Earth Bound Misfit at January 03, 2012 08:04 PM (jiwQf)

70 Miss80s- Yeah, that's candidate-speak for "Screw you guys, I'm going home". For all practical purposes, he's out.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:04 PM (X3vSL)

71
@69

Come to think of it, Romney's finish this year is slightly below where he finished in 2008.

Doesn't grow on people, do he?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 03, 2012 08:06 PM (3wBRE)

72 @30, I've been of voting age since 1989 and have voted in every Presidential election. I live in Missouri--a larger, more diverse, and more conservative state than Iowa or New Hampshire--and I have NEVER met a Presidential candidate. Who says they have to come and kiss ass and wear the corn sombrero in Iowa to prove their worth? I can guarantee you that I knew more about the candidates and their records than most of the folks voting in Iowa and New Hampshire. There's this thing called in the Internet. We have television. We've seen approximately 10,000 Republican debates.Why does living in Iowa or New Hampshire bestow some special ability to pick the nominee?

Posted by: Palandine at January 03, 2012 08:06 PM (g7D8V)

73 And who should go first, exactly? Not sayin' Iowa deserves it any more than any other state, but whoever goes first its gonna get the same ration of crap. Anyway, take a look. Iowa's results are very revealing. Romney has far more appeal in the cities and suburbs than in the rural areas. Santorum got the hick vote. Extrapolate that.

Posted by: Cornfed at January 03, 2012 08:06 PM (TF47w)

74 Romney has 25%. Hum? He had 25% 6 months ago, 3 months ago, 3 weeks ago and he will probably have 25% next month? Maybe it will sink in one day that 75% of the Republican electorate don't trust him?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:07 PM (eCnLg)

75
Michele Bachmann will continue despite sixth-place finish; Â‘Full steam aheadÂ’ campaign manager says

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 03, 2012 08:07 PM (3wBRE)

76 What happened to the massive Palin write-in effort that the delusional Hot Air Palinistas were predicting? Never mind, I think I just answered my own question.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:08 PM (X3vSL)

77 It really is a fucking shame what happened to the Perry campaign. Call it the "last in" curse. Like Fred Thompson in 08, the hype built up for a newcomer couldn't do anything but disappoint. Perry could have overcome his early stumbles by entering a couple months earlier.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 03, 2012 08:08 PM (2YIVk)

78 Romney has far more appeal in the cities and suburbs than in the rural areas. Santorum got the hick vote. Extrapolate that. Posted by: Cornfed at January 04, 2012 12:06 AM (TF47w) Yeah but there cities are usually democratic so extrapolate that

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:08 PM (eCnLg)

79 Perry does the honorable thing and drops out, so that the unRomney vote isnt divided more than necessary. No such move from Bachmann of course.

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at January 03, 2012 08:08 PM (q3zGg)

That one decision may very well affect and reorient conservative politics for a half a century. Rubio may rank with FDR and Reagan of those who created a new political coalition and reoriented the ideology of the parties.... If about a half of Hispanics can be brought into the conservative coalition.

Alright. That's just too damn much. Rubio seems ok. Alright. Potential, maybe.

A bunch of people have globbed onto this guy, and you've got one admitting it right there so it's not some projection, they support this guy because he's fucking hispanic.

These hispandering fantasies of winning over minority demographics with blatant identity-based racial pandering, it will not die. They're trying to build political coalitions out of ethnic groups. It's kind of sick.

And it's been like this ever since anyone heard of him, just because he's hispanic. That was basically Mel Martinez's qualification too. More Bush type bullshit.

I don't blaim Rubio, he's got nothing to do with it. He seems alright.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you disagree you hate America and want Obama to win at January 03, 2012 08:09 PM (fUGwd)

81 It really is a fucking shame what happened to the Perry campaign. Call it the "last in" curse. Like Fred Thompson in 08, the hype built up for a newcomer couldn't do anything but disappoint. Perry could have overcome his early stumbles by entering a couple months earlier. Posted by: Serious Cat at January 04, 2012 12:08 AM (2YIVk) It really was his for the taking. He fucked up

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:09 PM (eCnLg)

82 Extrapolate that. No, you!! EXTRAPOLATE that. Or something.

Posted by: Unhinged ReLOVEution Devotee at January 03, 2012 08:10 PM (mM45n)

83 Anybody the So-Cons like must be a dick...as actual conservatism requires such dick-ishness as self control and a discernible levels of personal discipline and personal responsibility...things without which an actually free democratic republic requires to remain "free". People that go around preaching such stuff, and sometimes even demonstrating are SUCH DICKS ('cause they make the rest of us look bad)!!

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:11 PM (+FrDx)

84 Let's not forget, friends, that Iowa was a key State, if Rick Perry won. Now that his exact duplicate, Rick Santorum is the winner, we all have to get in line. RICKSANITY FOR 2012 NO OBAMER!

Posted by: Defeat Paul, What a Loon at January 03, 2012 08:11 PM (gj4aA)

85 I'm sick and tired of the depressing news. And by the news I mean, the Iowa caucus, Keifum's little girl hissyfits, and a bunch of buffoons in D.C. actually thinking that they are qualified to tell business owners that they haven't the right to expect potential employees to have a f**king diploma. To the point where, instead of watching the caucus results, and other crappy news, I'm watching Investigation Discovery channel shows about real murderers being caught by a homicide detective. Yeah, that's right. Murder shows are more uplifting than the azzholes we have in politics, and the azzholes we have in the media. Then again, maybe Manbearpig will shitcan Kiefers. That would be fun.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 03, 2012 08:11 PM (h+mab)

86 @73- No one state should go first. The general election isn't won by retail politics and baby kissing in one or two States, neither should the primaries.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:11 PM (X3vSL)

WTF?! Perry gives up just like that? The only fucking state that gets a vote is Iowa?!?

Ron Paul, or Romney they give you in Virginia.

What have the rest of us got now, Santorum? Fuck.

Perry had cash.

This country is basically fucked.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you disagree you hate America and want Obama to win at January 03, 2012 08:12 PM (fUGwd)

88 Sem McCain is gonna endorse Romney tomorrow??? OOOH? And they really think that will help? Have they no idea what a pariah he has become to Republicans? Are they that detached?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:12 PM (eCnLg)

89 Romney 2012. Resistance Is Futile!

Posted by: packsoldier at January 03, 2012 08:13 PM (EH4fE)

90 Some guy in a truck with ballots is lost? Must be a democratic district

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:14 PM (eCnLg)

91 ALL Right !! Juan Amnesty McVain(The Other Soros Candidate) will endorse The Man With The Magic Undies, The Good Bishop Romney tomorrow! He's a shoo-in now, everyone else might as well drop out.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:15 PM (+FrDx)

92 Actually this speech by Santorum is probably one of the most important of his campaign. I hope he does not sound like an ass

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:17 PM (eCnLg)

93 But, but ......Ron Paul was supposed to win Iowa....bus loads of dem operative special forces SEIU party switchers......Operation Obama Chaos......who did the head count.......?

Posted by: Awful McNasty's boxers at January 03, 2012 08:17 PM (SiOVz)

94 M-M-M-m-m-m, that some GOOD shite! Mitt goes down SO smooth! And you had better swallow, or the GOP will get you!

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:17 PM (+FrDx)

95 Anybody the So-Cons like must be a dick...

Oh come on, Rubio is not a dick. Reagan was not a dick. Bush was not a dick. Santorum just comes off as one. Sure, actual nice guys might be few in politics, but, damnit, at least fake it.

Maybe I should give him credit for keeping it real.

Posted by: AD at January 03, 2012 08:18 PM (v5FAc)

96 This is historic, folks. The first speech of RICK SANTORUM, PRESIDENT (2013). History, my friends. History.

Posted by: Defeat Paul, What a Loon at January 03, 2012 08:18 PM (gj4aA)

97 No matter who won tonight, it was pretty much guaranteed that the results were going to have me taking a header into the extra-large plastic bottle of Val-U-Rite.

It's not enough for a candidate to be not-SCOAMF.

They have to be not-SCOAMF and able-to-beat-SCOAMF.

Against a tidal wave of dirty money, dirty tricks, and the increasingly open collaboration of the mainstream media with the SCOAMF's party.

I'm not seeing that capable challenger. Not at all.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 03, 2012 08:18 PM (aWrFJ)

98 OK I get the G-D stuff and like it but lets move on now

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:19 PM (eCnLg)

99 "Game on"

That was nice, though. Relish in your dickishness.

Posted by: AD at January 03, 2012 08:19 PM (v5FAc)

100 I hear T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII will endorse Romney tomorrow.

Exciting stuff. Plans to hold yacht race in his honor and give his domestics a half day off.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 03, 2012 08:20 PM (QcFbt)

101 @87- Perry doesn't really have a path to the nomination anymore. He'd be a non-factor in NH, and is unlikely to win SC or FL after that. I don't like it either, but I can't fault him for stepping aside. Blame the RNC for not putting a long overdue end to this early state bullshit.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:20 PM (X3vSL)

102 "Game on" That was nice, though. Relish in your dickishness. Posted by: AD at January 04, 2012 12:19 AM (v5FAc) Hey lay off the President

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 03, 2012 08:20 PM (eCnLg)

103 Entropy, you think I way over stated myself, but I used the terms "may" and "maybe" quite on purpose.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 03, 2012 08:21 PM (RfvTE)

104 I've seen better turnouts for races at Talledega...

Posted by: Gmac at January 03, 2012 08:22 PM (kVUiz)

105 Hey lay off the President

I'm being serious--it was a nice touch.

Posted by: AD at January 03, 2012 08:23 PM (v5FAc)

106 Who knew that bribing the right Iowa pastors is all you need for a win in Iowa?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:23 PM (X3vSL)

107 At the end of the day, RICK "SANTA" SANTORUM will beat that stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure BARACK W. OBAMA HUSSEIN.

Posted by: Defeat Paul, What a Loon at January 03, 2012 08:24 PM (gj4aA)

108

87- Perry doesn't really have a path to the nomination anymore. He'd be a non-factor in NH, and is unlikely to win SC or FL after that.

Dude, fuck that, Santorum hasn't even been vetted.

No one payed attention to him until yesterday. The fucking dicks ramrodded the primary season before anyone was paying attention and people are dropping out before most voters have fucking decided.

God knows what the fuck Santorum actually thinks about anything. Nobody fucking knows! Except fucking IOWA! In January.

Santorum has a 85% likelyhood of imploding sometime between New Hampshire and South Carolina, the week before the latter being also when Bachmann drops out for him.

This is bullshit games and fuck these statist bastards. There was never a choice.

Posted by: Entropy, and if you disagree you hate America and want Obama to win at January 03, 2012 08:25 PM (fUGwd)

109 "15 Getting a little tired of Morons saying Newt cheated on two terminal wives. They were not terminal and they were already getting divorced. Posted by: jaimo" I'm not buying that. I'm saying that, as a single woman who had often been hit on by married men who claimed to be "separated". It's bullshit. John McCain made the same claim about his dumping his first wife for the pretty, young heiress. Politicians seem to have a nifty little way of making the "separation" retroactive.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 03, 2012 08:25 PM (h+mab)

110 If Santorum keeps citing God I might be in danger of becoming an atheist.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:26 PM (X3vSL)

111 So-Cons are SUCH DICKS!! "Holier-than-thou" bastards!

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:28 PM (+FrDx)

112 I would vote for a jar of warm diarrhea, before I would even consider Ron Paul. What the hell is wrong with people?

Posted by: Jug of cold spit at January 03, 2012 08:28 PM (YHVOj)

113 It's time to take up the strait laced, high-tone secular humanist banner of purity, self control, and...ah, whatever. "God" is such a crutch anyway, and everybody that believes such fantasies really is incapable of handling real life...just ask the Founders.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:30 PM (+FrDx)

114 So-Cons are SUCH DICKS!! "Holier-than-thou" bastards!

And what a sweetheart you are.

Posted by: mama winger at January 03, 2012 08:30 PM (P6QsQ)

115 "God" is such a crutch anyway, and everybody that believes such fantasies really is incapable of handling real life.

Well, now you're just being silly.

Posted by: mama winger at January 03, 2012 08:31 PM (P6QsQ)

116 Man is all -- all is Man. Take responsibility and don't call on the imagination for someone to bail you out. Look at all of the wonderful things God-hate does for America.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:33 PM (+FrDx)

117 @108- I don't like it either, but how much money could Perry possibly have left? His big donors aren't going to throw money at him forever, especially after a poor showing in IA and NH. This primary system which has a handful of early States deciding for the rest of us sucks balls, but it is what it is.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 03, 2012 08:33 PM (X3vSL)

118 Santorum has a 85% likelyhood of imploding sometime between New Hampshire and South Carolina, the week before the latter being also when Bachmann drops out for him. -------------- After that, I imagine Gingrich rebounds. Sucks we're stuck with those two. But I have to say Gingrich. He'll come back cause now he has money and will fight Romney. The ads that attacked him were only in IA as well. So the debates can still boost him in other states

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 03, 2012 08:33 PM (FKQng)

119 Santorum couldn't win re-election in his home state...How do you extrapolate that into beating Obozo Africanus??? Yawn, not going to happen...The pundits will get to maul this meme for a few weeks. Paul reached his all time high water mark in Iowa, having run for President multiple times including his Libertarian bid. What remains for Herr Doktor is losing every single primary as he did in 2008. His rabid supporters will continue to bombard the sane with their insane rantings until RP retires to count his winnings, I mean remaining campaign funds. Perry heads home to Texas. Like John "I'm a war here" McCain, the first entry on his resume will remain his last, "I'm Rick Perry from Texas." Newt finally goes negative and loses his rapidlly depleting Newt-mentum like a sack of pig fat dropped from the second floor of the slaughter house. Bachmann, why bother...Not going to be VP, not going to get a cabinet post, maybe an ambassador-ship to Swaziland where she will adopt another litter. Still too early to call it for Mitt but not Mitt crowd is running out of airspeed, altitude and ideas...

Posted by: Don't hate the playa hate the game at January 03, 2012 08:33 PM (1GlXg)

120

Seriously.

Huntsman?

Maybe? Good record? Snobby attitude, sounds like a democrat, but maybe if we get some policy proposals out of him?

Posted by: Entropy, and if you disagree you hate America and want Obama to win at January 03, 2012 08:33 PM (fUGwd)

121 Commenting without context can be a silly thing...

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:34 PM (+FrDx)

122

From the CNN PoliticalTicker blog:

"I mean the idea that one or two states is going to decide who the next nominee for the Republican Party is, is just, you know, that's not reality. This is a 50 state campaign and it's about the future of America," Perry said.

Perry may indeed be returning to Texas to reassess things, but this quote suggests that he's not yet ready to drop out. No one else is dropping out, not een those behing Perry.

Perry doen't strike me as someone who gives up quite so easily ... Iowa is only 6EVs, and whatever the caucus may predict, predictions aren't the same as results.

Wait for Super Tuesday.

Posted by: Arbalest at January 03, 2012 08:36 PM (Ji3lj)

123 The Man With The Magic Undies may need to swab those briifs out tonight.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:38 PM (+FrDx)

124 "Swab those briefs out..."

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 03, 2012 08:39 PM (+FrDx)

125 Well, fellow GOP Country-clubbing establishment types, time to break out the long knives.

Posted by: Karl Rove at January 03, 2012 08:43 PM (+FrDx)

126 Santorum HATES gays! You Morons can't be looking at that Papist to beat the "magic n***o"!

Posted by: A. Coulter at January 03, 2012 08:45 PM (+FrDx)

127 Iowans are idiots and don't determine anything. Ignore them.

Posted by: J. Huntsmen at January 03, 2012 08:47 PM (+FrDx)

128 Santorum couldn't win re-election in his home state...How do you extrapolate that into beating Obozo Africanus???
Don't hate the playa hate the game

Not sure. Shall we ask Mitt "One then Run" Romney?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 03, 2012 08:49 PM (3wBRE)

129 It's all over but the shouting: Mitt "RICKSANITY" Gingrich for President!

Posted by: Defeat Paul, What a Loon at January 03, 2012 08:50 PM (gj4aA)

130 Romney is the ONLY person who can rally the independents, and so we'll just have to let them help conservatives pick who will run the country. Principled conservatism just sounds so stupid to the urbane and worldly wise moderates and "independents".

Posted by: C. Christie at January 03, 2012 08:51 PM (+FrDx)

131 Only Northeastern Republicans are allowed any input into presidential primaries.

Posted by: A. Coulter at January 03, 2012 08:52 PM (+FrDx)

132 Oh, also Florida and SC, sorry Nikki H., you're one of *us* now.

Posted by: A. Coulter at January 03, 2012 08:57 PM (+FrDx)

133 No, problem Ann, we've finally put a lid on those dufus TEA Partiers in SC, and we shouldn't be hearing anymore from those hicks.

Posted by: N. Haley at January 03, 2012 08:59 PM (+FrDx)

134 In fairness, while some people call Santorum dickish, others will look at his internet supporters and realize what an easy-going laid-back guy he must be.

Posted by: AD at January 03, 2012 09:25 PM (v5FAc)

135 So, less people than turn out for my county's school board election have eliminated the most qualified candidate in t race (Perry) because a bunch of sanctimonious Evangelical fucktards ordered their fucktard flocks to go vote for the guy who lost his own state by 20 points. Fuck Iowa. Fuck you ethanol scamming pricks who demand that a candidate personally kiss each and every one of your fat farmer asses for your votes.

Posted by: malachi45 at January 03, 2012 09:52 PM (UcN59)

136 Oh, and let me be the first to congratulate our new Romney overlords. Hail Mitt!

Posted by: malachi45 at January 03, 2012 09:53 PM (UcN59)

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Posted by: Domain Registration at January 03, 2012 09:53 PM (GEGD/)

138 What @136 said!

Posted by: A. Coulter at January 03, 2012 09:56 PM (+FrDx)

139 Iowa's just a bunch of Bible-thumpin' homophobes, but we'll lick in the end...

Posted by: A. Coulter at January 03, 2012 09:57 PM (+FrDx)

140 We'll lick 'em and stick 'em!

Posted by: A. Coulter at January 03, 2012 09:59 PM (+FrDx)

141 Mitt for POTUS 'cause he won Taxachussetts by running left of Chappiquiddick Ted and he did something with Olympics or something. He's been running for over five years so now it his time. Just get on your knees, Iowa, and the rest of you TEA Baggers.

Posted by: A. Coulter at January 03, 2012 10:02 PM (+FrDx)

142 Thank you, Ann. Your strong passionate conservative endorsements of North Eastern liberal Republicans is an inspiration to us all! Hail Mitt!

Posted by: malachi45 at January 03, 2012 10:02 PM (UcN59)

143 F*ck you Santorum you stupid f*cking Romney/McCain giving motherf*cker and f*ck you, you stupid f*cking Iowans who fell for a dumb motherf*cking semi-social-con who did this f*cking dumb shit again. G-damn....jobs...depression...four more years of Jug-Ears? Who cares! Give us a fake social con and some ethanol subsidies!

Posted by: specialkayel at January 03, 2012 10:20 PM (8Fyz9)

144 Wow 8 votes. I thought 7 votes in favor of Santorum but it was 8 votes in favor of Romney. The votes don't get certified for two weeks.

There is a lot of room for finding an error when only 8 votes separate you.

Posted by: dip theory ah at January 03, 2012 10:35 PM (oZfic)

145 Perry fucked it up. It isn't a Fred Thompson situation, a guy who never got traction. Perry got in and had national front runner status almost immediately.

Then he opened his mouth to speak and disaster ensued.

He's polling nationally in the mid single digits, and has no conceivable path to wins in NH, SC, or FL despite his TX campaign sugar daddies.

You can blame Iowa bibles or ethanol if you want (interesting that Santorum is publicly opposed to ethanol subsidies and has repeatedly voted against them but still won) but Perry is a bad candidate and that's why he lost badly. His personal narrative might be a good one but he can't seal the deal.

Time to swallow my pride and see if Santorum has the moxie to make the case for conservatism.

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