January 16, 2012
— Ace At least he will enter training camp in that position.
Some of his throws look pro-level. Some of his throws look amateurish.
I think some sportswriter had it right when he said Tebow doesn't yet have the ability to anticipate where the receiver is going to make his break, and where he'll be when he does; instead, he waits to actually see this happen, then throws. Pro quarterbacks don't have the time to wait to see an open receiver, most of the time.
That's something that may come with experience. But I think most quarterbacks who fail don't wind up failing on athleticism or arm-strength, but on processor speed, the ability to see the field fast enough to make quick and mostly accurate projections a second ahead into the future.
Man alive, did the Patriots demolish them. On both sides of the ball. The weak New England defense completely stymied the Broncos.
Speaking of demolishing -- I'm not rubbing this in to Wisconites' faces, just stating a fact: The Giants completely dominated Green Bay in a way I would have never have guessed, and certainly not bet. Two bad calls (and all three bad calls in the game were in favor of Green Bay) led to two Green Bay touchdowns, and one of them might have also subtracted a Giants score.
It was frustrating to watch Aaron Rodgers keep scrambling for 8-12 yards whenever he ran for the first. But of course Aaron Rodgers doesn't beat people that way. He beats people by throwing the ball to receivers down the field. As frustrating it was for me, as a Giants fan, to keep watching him pick up first downs, I did keep it in mind: I guess no one's open downfield, huh?
The Giants secondary had been weak just a year ago and in fact most of this year, right? And yet somehow -- we can't see how because they don't show us the receivers in many shots -- they were apparently covering Green Bay's fearsome receivers on most damn plays.
Two great games next Sunday. I'm surprised Vegas has New England out 8 points in front of Baltimore. I figured it would be four. They have the Niners as three point favorites, which sounds right. Wait a Minute: I misread. The "Vegas sharps" line has the Niners as 11.5 point favorites. That seems way too high to me. Did they not just see the Giants shut down the NFL's best offense?
Meanwhile, in terms of winning the Super Bowl, Vegas now has New England as a clear favorite, at 6:5. New York and the Niners are both 3 to 1 against, and the Ravens are 6 to 1 against.
Vegas really doubts the Ravens, huh?
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Posted by: dad29 at January 16, 2012 01:51 PM (4hgxp)
>>> That's something that may come with experience.
Also, it will come with actually being able to go through a summer training camp in the starting position.
When a QB trains for a whole year with his receivers, he develops a rhythm with them. He starts to understand when they will make the turns in their routes, and how high to throw, etc.
Tebow never had this as he came in part of the way through the year.
Posted by: dan-O at January 16, 2012 01:51 PM (sWycd)
>>> btw the Texans kinda sucked too
Not really. Their QB is a total rookie and even still they would have won had it not been for that moronic fumble by the punt returner that cost them 7 (plus?) points.
Posted by: dan-O at January 16, 2012 01:52 PM (sWycd)
Women, minorities, Elway hardest hit.
Funny. Near my house is a sports-themed McDonald's with a ton of old memorabilia. There's a picture of Elway throwing a pass. I said to my daughter, "See that guy? That's Tim Tebow's boss now!"
Damn, I'm old.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 01:53 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 01:53 PM (vzLhi)
I'd have been willing to bet on the Giants having a chance. Considering that Green Bay had the worst pass defense in the league. Along with the Giants really getting into a groove at the end of the season combined with the Packers sitting so many of their starters at the end of the season. That has just screamed bad idea to me whenever I see it. You've already got a playoff bye use that to rest and recuperate, you can't sit them longer when they are going to be playing a team that is coming off at least one win and is looking to build.
The Colts have been notorious at doing the "sitting starters at the end of the season" and they have been one and done in the playoffs so often, especially with bye weeks. The year they won the Super Bowl? They did not have a playoff bye.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 01:54 PM (GULKT)
Yeah. The Texans D outplayed every other unit on the field from both squads. They never gave up.
But TJ Yates, a Matt Schaub he ain't.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 01:54 PM (I2LwF)
Donovan was a great guy, great athlete. The team loved him, he was a great community role model, and no one doubted his arm, but he just never got his head around the game.
I watched that guy for years in Philly and winced as he choked game after game. No better arm, but he just never had that sense of the field or the ability to process in a crunch.
Can Tebow get it? I have no idea.
Posted by: Travis at January 16, 2012 01:55 PM (H5eBn)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 01:55 PM (052zE)
Posted by: © Sponge at January 16, 2012 01:55 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: ace at January 16, 2012 01:56 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: packsoldier at January 16, 2012 01:57 PM (MIT63)
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 16, 2012 01:57 PM (ybkwK)
Yeah. The Texans D outplayed every other unit on the field from both squads. They never gave up.
But TJ Yates, a Matt Schaub he ain't.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 05:54 PM (I2LwF)
And you say that because Matt Schaub has done what exactly?
Posted by: © Sponge at January 16, 2012 01:57 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 01:57 PM (niZvt)
Keep in mind that the line is what gets even action, not what will really happen. The Patriots' fan base is more enthusiastic than the Ravens', and this is just a move to dampen Patriots action and tease out Ravens'.
The Packers and the Cowboys get this treatment more.
But TJ Yates, a Matt Schaub he ain't.
Matt Leinart probably could've won that game.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 16, 2012 01:58 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 01:59 PM (vUK/h)
It's a weird thing. It always looks like a mistake but what if one of your starters goes down with a season-ending ACL injury in a game that means nothing?
I'm not sure of the advisability of putting players in to a "just practice" sort of game for them, when the other team is not treating it as such.
Maybe just play them for a half.
Posted by: ace at January 16, 2012 05:56 PM (nj1bB)
See the Patriots. They don't sit their starters much at the end of the season. Yeah you have that injury risk but you've got that every game, and even every practice. And yeah a half would be better than what many do in those situations which is not at all. Aaron Rodgers hadn't played since Christmas Day. Think about that.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:01 PM (GULKT)
Can Tebow get it? I have no idea.
I have every confidence he will. Elway will make sure of it, so will John Fox. In fact, it's in the team's bestest interests that they all help him get it. His throwing mechanics have already improved, and that OT throw last week was maybe a bit high, but he still hit Thomas in full stride. The boy's got potential, AWUTSBHIA (As We Used To Say Back Home In Alabama).
And GB just couldn't hang on to the ball, TO's killed them. When you've got a guy that had gone some five years or so without coughing up the ball and he drops one, you know it's gonna be a long day.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 16, 2012 02:03 PM (d0Tfm)
I argue that the are about four tiers of starting quarterback:
The first tier -- guys like Rodgers, Brady, and Brees, who are no-question "elite" quarterbacks.
The second tier -- guys like Rothlesberger and Schaub, who are good enough to get you to the playoffs every year, and who you're perfectly fine with.
The third tier -- the journeymen who are better than a schlub off the street. Guys like Orton and Grossman.
The fourth tier -- the guys who only have a job by accident.
Tebow has proven himself at least a third tier quarterback, and the Broncos can afford to take the offseason to build him up to the second tier. I don't think he'll ever be first tier, but give him a decent receiver (or a monster like Johnson in Houston) and Denver's offense is set.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 16, 2012 02:04 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 02:05 PM (vUK/h)
I watched that guy for years in Philly and winced as he choked game after game. No better arm, but he just never had that sense of the field or the ability to process in a crunch.
Can Tebow get it? I have no idea.
Posted by: Travis at January 16, 2012 05:55 PM (H5eBn)
If its something that can be learned then I think he'll definitely pick it up. Here's an article from last month that talks about his studying of the teams that were most likely to draft him, his work ethic in practice, and even at all hours of night.
It also contains his admission of breaking one of the 10 Commandments.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:05 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 02:07 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: huerfano at January 16, 2012 02:07 PM (lXi+d)
FIFY
Don't fix it for me. Leinart was Schaub's back-up at the start of the season, and lasted something like 25 seconds before he got his collarbone broken.
Houston's injury luck this year was just terrible.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 16, 2012 02:07 PM (bjRNS)
is that Vegas line on the Giants game accurate?
That'd be worth the risk of losing a fiddy or two, if it was.
I thought the Saints D stunk on ice...no way the Giants D rolls over like that.
Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2012 02:07 PM (MNCju)
Like his commercial stated: "they" did not think he'd go to a big university football team as QB; "they" did not think he'd win the Heinsman Trophy; "they" did not think he'd get a national championship (twice), and "they" did not think he would be a draft pick or be "good" enough to play the NFL. He trains hard and likes the challenge. We'll see.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky loves Rubio at January 16, 2012 02:07 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 02:08 PM (lDaH4)
Giants D picked it up in the second half. I'm thinking the Giants have a chance against San Fran w/a rookie QB but Alex Smith is getting better and better.
Denver needs to hire a good QB coach, IFF, he is the future.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 02:08 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 16, 2012 02:09 PM (T2/zQ)
Sorry, typing too fast...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 02:09 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 02:10 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 02:10 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: mare at January 16, 2012 02:10 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:11 PM (WNvlG)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 02:11 PM (FcR7P)
I just assumed Rodgers was doing his Tebow impression as a set up for the next discount double check commercial.
Unrelated question. If Tom Brady can punt for nearly 50 yards, why does NE need a punter? Seems to me I'd rather have the credible punt fake threat every fourth down.
*adjusts Madden 2012 roster*
Posted by: Methos at January 16, 2012 02:12 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:12 PM (h6mPj)
Would you want to lose your starting QB during a punt play?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 02:13 PM (GaIwz)
I watched both Grossman and Tebow play at U of Florida. Judging by there time there, Tebow is significantly better than Grossman -- no contest. I agree with the above posters that he will benefit greatly from be the starter for the whole off season.
Posted by: Brewer at January 16, 2012 02:13 PM (eV1I0)
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:13 PM (GULKT)
Punt coverage. If the punter gets killed on it, then you're not out your star quarterback.
And, boy howdy, if I'm on the return team against Brady, I'm looking for any chance to put a hard lick on him.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 16, 2012 02:14 PM (bjRNS)
The Eagles keep getting these outstanding QBs, but they don't go the distance, year after year.
Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, and Michael Vick .. if they aren't being beatup by the opposing defense, they are running for their lives.
Posted by: Ghost of Red Kirkman at January 16, 2012 02:14 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:14 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: M. Murcek at January 16, 2012 02:16 PM (ToZXn)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:16 PM (WNvlG)
Posted by: madtechie at January 16, 2012 02:16 PM (zDThO)
Posted by: Snake Pliskin at January 16, 2012 02:16 PM (jiwQf)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:17 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 16, 2012 02:17 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 02:18 PM (lDaH4)
49ers / Giants have played some awesome playoff games. Jim Burt delivered an absolute brutal shot on Joe Montana back in 86. Should be fun.
And it's obvious the Packers threw the game--if I had the time, I'd conduct a statistical analysis to demonstrate this; for a similar obvious choke, see the 2006 World Series.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 02:18 PM (Ec6wH)
I'm not disagreeing with you. Grossman's been in the league eight years, and will never be better than a journeyman. Tebow should be better than Grossman after eight years.
Heck, if he really does get a decent chance in Denver, he'll be better than Grossman sooner than that.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 16, 2012 02:18 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 02:19 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:19 PM (WNvlG)
And, boy howdy, if I'm on the return team against Brady, I'm looking for any chance to put a hard lick on him.
Don't hate me cause I'm beautiful.
Posted by: Tom Brady at January 16, 2012 02:19 PM (SgLsM)
Did they not just see the Giants shut down the NFL's best offense?
No, they did not. They saw the Packers' receivers drop about 10 balls they usually catch, and Aaron Rodgers miss about 4 wide-open guys he almost always hits. There are games where the defenders' play shuts down the offense. This was not one of those games.
They saw the Giants get a very bad performance from Green Bay and the spread reflects that.
Best of luck to Tebow, he has some things to work on but its doable.
Posted by: TallDave at January 16, 2012 02:20 PM (lNW+B)
I should probably admit that I'm not a Brady fan. Still, isn't that rationale the reason the Cowboys have (had?) Tony Romo holding on field goals?
Posted by: Methos at January 16, 2012 02:20 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:20 PM (h6mPj)
Yep, my thoughts exactly. Give Tebow ~3 years, and I'm sure he'll be in your tier 2, if not tier 1.
Posted by: Brewer at January 16, 2012 02:21 PM (eV1I0)
Like his commercial stated: "they" did not think he'd go to a big university football team as QB; "they" did not think he'd win the Heinsman Trophy; "they" did not think he'd get a national championship (twice), and "they" did not think he would be a draft pick or be "good" enough to play the NFL. He trains hard and likes the challenge. We'll see.
Hell, "they" didn't think he'd live to birth or be normal even then.
He's defied more than one odd.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 16, 2012 02:22 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:22 PM (WNvlG)
The real tragedy of 9/11 is the exodus of foreign born kickers...
We are kickers
We kick ball
We play with ball
We kick the ball
Posted by: Big Fat Ali Haji Sheikh at January 16, 2012 02:23 PM (Ec6wH)
I should probably admit that I'm not a Brady fan. Still, isn't that rationale the reason the Cowboys have (had?) Tony Romo holding on field goals?
Posted by: Methos at January 16, 2012 06:20 PM (sOXQX)
Romo was the holder because he started the season as the back-up QB, and when he became the starter they never had someone else take over the holder job. And then he flubs the snap in the playoff.
He is not the holder anymore
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:23 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:24 PM (WNvlG)
Posted by: Snake Pliskin at January 16, 2012 02:24 PM (jiwQf)
Posted by: Hockey and soccer fans feeling left out at January 16, 2012 02:26 PM (lDaH4)
Uh ... I don't think Canada broadcasts soccer. They (almost) play real football, y'know.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at January 16, 2012 02:27 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2012 02:27 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Jarrod Russell at January 16, 2012 02:27 PM (FcR7P)
Please contribute to my foundation--The This Time I'm Really Serious and Into God and Stuff and Making Amends For My Behavior Charity. Odds are, you'll get at least 6 to 5 odds on your investment.
Posted by: Art Schlichter at January 16, 2012 02:28 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:28 PM (WNvlG)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 02:28 PM (vUK/h)
You're a fucking idiot.
Communion wafers never leave the church and I think Tebow is a Baptist.
Thanks for the tip.
I'm not a non-religious guy, but I think that while Tebow is sincere in his beliefs, he'd be better served by toning it down a bit.
There comes a point where I just want it to be about the game, and not about being a freaking martyr. I'd really rather see him take on Kurt Warner and Aaron Rogers' approach, and let his actions do the talking.
Incidentally, both Warner and Rogers are very religious, evangelical men.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 02:31 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 02:31 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 06:28 PM (vUK/h)
Michael Vick believes in dog.
Posted by: Hockey and soccer fans feeling left out at January 16, 2012 02:32 PM (lDaH4)
But yeah, I'm loving the playoffs so far. Three of the four remaining teams like to run the ball and play defense. It's like people have forgotten that stopping the other team from scoring points is more valuable than your own ability to put points on the board.
Posted by: Little Lebowski Urban Achiever at January 16, 2012 02:32 PM (evtdB)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:32 PM (WNvlG)
Well, he does have a massively large head. I don't get it. I can understand the power eating and workouts increase your muscle mass, but how do their heads get so freaking large?
Well, he has to keep all those different offenses and defenses somewhere...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 16, 2012 02:33 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Frank G at January 16, 2012 02:33 PM (cJqu0)
There comes a point where I just want it to be about the game, and not about being a freaking martyr. I'd really rather see him take on Kurt Warner and Aaron Rogers' approach, and let his actions do the talking.
Incidentally, both Warner and Rogers are very religious, evangelical men.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 06:31 PM (SgLsM)
So you think that he needs to tone down his praying privately by himself on the sidelines, and spending less than 30 seconds of 5 minute interviews? How about the news media assholes stop obsessing over these facts every single time they talk about him.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:34 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:35 PM (WNvlG)
Why? He doesn't over do it. And I say this as an atheist. I think the problem is strictly on your side.
It's my opinion that the "Tebowing" thing is overdoing it. It's a lot better than Randy Moss and the goalpost, but it still strikes me as showboating, of a fashion.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 02:36 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 02:36 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:37 PM (WNvlG)
Just so long as we can retire the "Honey Badger" moniker.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 16, 2012 02:37 PM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Frank G at January 16, 2012 06:33 PM (cJqu0)
You want to lose to him again next year? 
Or is it that you want to know there will be two games a year that you will see at least one of the QBs on the field not be and arrogant prick shouting things at the opposing team?
In case you can't tell I'm not a Phillip Rivers fan. I consider him Ryan Leaf with slightly more talent and composure. But only slightyl
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:37 PM (GULKT)
Please link to me anything that has been said by Tebow in which he claims that he is a martyr. Not by other people, by Tebow.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 02:37 PM (Gk3SS)
Next year I want him to win a Super Bowl ring. Since that'll be right after Romney's inauguration the liberal tears will flow sweet and strong.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2012 02:37 PM (rCEvh)
You're a fucking idiot.
Communion wafers never leave the church and I think Tebow is a Baptist.
So how do the wafers get to the church? Do the nuns bake 'em up, or are they delivered by naughty Catholic schoolgirls?
Posted by: Hockey and soccer fans feeling left out at January 16, 2012 02:38 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 16, 2012 02:39 PM (Te1S8)
Posted by: The Obamas at January 16, 2012 02:39 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 02:39 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:39 PM (WNvlG)
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 02:39 PM (Gk3SS)
Oh, he spends a lot less than that. Time yourself saying "I'd like to thank my lord Jesus Christ." What is that? Three seconds?
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 06:37 PM (WNvlG)
Like I said "Less than" Its typically just a single sentence right at the beginning and yeah it probably is more like 3-5 seconds. But I'm giving a very large window and a chance of him saying something about thanking the Lord as an answer to a question like he did in one of the post game press conferences.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:40 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 16, 2012 02:40 PM (d0Tfm)
Please link to me anything that has been said by Tebow in which he claims that he is a martyr. Not by other people, by Tebow.
Look, I'm not claiming that I think HE is putting this forward, but logically if God is involved in supporting him, he is actively against the other team.
I think it's appropriate for an athlete to ask for strength, for health, etc. What I don't think is appropriate is for an athlete to fire up a pass with God guiding it into a receiver's hands. That's what I take exception to.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 02:41 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:41 PM (WNvlG)
Posted by: Miss80s at January 16, 2012 02:41 PM (d6QMz)
Very intelligent.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2012 02:42 PM (ZJCDy)
Wait, Tebow has a lair? I want a lair.
The sheer nastiness directed at Tebow has been astonishing.
Some of it actually makes sense to me, at least from those who are focusing on his play rather than his personality/religion. There is a ton of money involved in the draft analysis/player review business and Tebow makes them look like idiots for being successful when his technical skills are supposedly so awful. It's a threat to the business model.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 02:42 PM (Gk3SS)
Tebow doesn't know jack shit about overdoing it.
Posted by: Terrell Owens, celebrating two touchdowns as a niner in Dallas at January 16, 2012 02:42 PM (sOXQX)
Look, I'm not claiming that I think HE is putting this forward, but logically if God is involved in supporting him, he is actively against the other team.
I think it's appropriate for an athlete to ask for strength, for health, etc. What I don't think is appropriate is for an athlete to fire up a pass with God guiding it into a receiver's hands. That's what I take exception to.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 06:41 PM (SgLsM)
God you are a fucking dumbass. Shut your mouth and slink away before you outdo the stupidity that you just uttered.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:42 PM (GULKT)
Communion wafers never leave the church
The host may leave the church grounds in order to remotely provide the sacrament to the faithful whom may be sick or injured. It must however, always be in the possession of an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 02:43 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 02:43 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:43 PM (WNvlG)
The host may leave the church grounds in order to remotely provide the sacrament to the faithful whom may be sick or injured. It must however, always be in the possession of an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion.
Typically stored in nifty little carrying cases.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 02:44 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 02:45 PM (FcR7P)
Please link to me anything that Tebow has said that God is actively supporting his team.
I think it's appropriate for an athlete to ask for strength, for health, etc. What I don't think is appropriate is for an athlete to fire up a pass with God guiding it into a receiver's hands. That's what I take exception to.
Please link to me anything said by Tebow in which he claims that God is guiding his passes into the receiver's hands.
Look, I am attempting to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but, seriously, you are not particularly giving me confidence that your criticisms of Tebow are about anything Tebow himself has done or said.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 02:45 PM (Gk3SS)
The sheer nastiness directed at Tebow has been astonishing.
And after what Charles Barkley said about Tebow being a "national nightmare" Chuckles can go fuck himself.
All that shit's just petty jealousy: Tebow really is a better man than they are and they just can't stand that. They feel they have to bring him down to their level.
I'd much rather see and hear Tebow than some punk ass who's been accused of a crime.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 16, 2012 02:45 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:46 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:46 PM (WNvlG)
It was a good year, and the next few should be great ones.
Posted by: Sterling Archer at January 16, 2012 02:46 PM (1H47k)
God you are a fucking dumbass. Shut your mouth and slink away before you outdo the stupidity that you just uttered.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 06:42 PM (GULKT)
All the more reason to separate church and sports. You may care to chill, my friend.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 02:47 PM (SgLsM)
They have actually been known to fall from the sky.
Posted by: Abraham at January 16, 2012 06:44 PM (SgLsM)
We preferred the quail.
Posted by: Some Israelite wondering why he wandered for forty years at January 16, 2012 02:47 PM (sOXQX)
Look, I'm not claiming that I think HE is putting this forward,
but logically if God is involved in supporting him, he is actively
against the other team.
I think it's appropriate for an athlete
to ask for strength, for health, etc. What I don't think is appropriate
is for an athlete to fire up a pass with God guiding it into a
receiver's hands. That's what I take exception to.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 06:41 PM (SgLsM)
And when has he ever claimed God is supporting him or his team or that God is guides his passes into a receiver's hands?
Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 02:47 PM (X6akg)
Actually, I was going for Quantitative Easing III.
The Costa Concordia comparison is still perfectly apt, up to and including the captain fleeing the sinking ship.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 02:48 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:48 PM (WNvlG)
You cannot be serious! /Mac
Congratulations, you've just opened your mouth and removed any possible doubt.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 02:49 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:50 PM (h6mPj)
Look, I am attempting to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but, seriously, you are not particularly giving me confidence that your criticisms of Tebow are about anything Tebow himself has done or said.
I'm not saying that it's about what Tebow is saying at all.
What I AM saying is that I'd like to watch a football game that is free of a religious overtone. The kneeling on the field I believe is over the top.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 02:50 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 02:51 PM (lDaH4)
Is this guy for real?
Posted by: Clarence at January 16, 2012 02:51 PM (z0HdK)
Well at least they're gonna give Tebow a chance, now its up to him to see how good he can get in the off season work, something he didn't get due to the lock out last year. I like seeing someone kids look up to not being such a jackass, so hoping for him.
I guess its not just me that sees the Pats with a clear path to the championship.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2012 02:52 PM (JYheX)
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 06:50 PM (SgLsM)
Well aren't you a delicate little flower.
Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 02:52 PM (X6akg)
Is this guy for real?
Wow, I don't know. I suddenly find this very concerning.
Posted by: Methos, Christian, therefore conservative at January 16, 2012 02:53 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:53 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2012 02:54 PM (ZJCDy)
Anyone else think sports writing is like Harlequin Romance novels for guys?
It takes me 4 days to write a lab report, and 5 minutes to fill up a page about why Cowboys suck so much.
TeeeeeBoooooooooooooo
Damn, if I could only transplant Brady's throwing arm onto Tebow, I would have an awesome QB with unlimited female ass spanking privileges.
Posted by: befuddled at January 16, 2012 02:54 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 02:55 PM (h6mPj)
There is a right-wing-nut on my local radio named Mark Levin - he has a high pitch spermy voice. I suspect he is gay in the Larry Craig-Ted Haggard GOP tradition.
Is this guy for real?
I don't know, Claraence. Is he talking sense about constitutional government? Perhaps that's why you've never heard of him.
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 02:56 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 02:56 PM (Ke2m6)
A minor demonstration of faith is over the top? Just because you are determined to live in a world devoid of religious expression, stop trying to force it on the rest of us. Of the hundreds of athletes in the NFL, one, makes an overt religious gesture, and now we are into "keep that religion from mine eyes, it has no place in public and I want to be free of the oppression of being forced to look at it for 2 seconds before watching a sporting match" sort of militant anti faith fervor.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 02:56 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Methos, Christian, therefore conservative at January 16, 2012 06:53 PM (sOXQX)
Methos, I am deeply, deeply concerned as well. I believe I need to go Tebowing for a few hours to deal with my concern.
Here, let me try to yank this thread back to the direction it belongs, hating on the Patriots. If I can't have Belichick getting hit in the crotch, can I at least have someone sack Brady so hard he cries on the field?
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 02:56 PM (Gk3SS)
Well aren't you a delicate little flower.
Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 06:52 PM (X6akg)
Excellent
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 02:57 PM (Ke2m6)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 02:58 PM (WNvlG)
Look, I like locker room showers to be free of pederasts, governments to be free of progressives, and football fields to be free of kneeling quarterbacks. So sue me.
Take this to its logical conclusion: you have players kneeling after sacking a quarterback, fullbacks bowing over a first down, and receivers saying hosannas over touchdowns.
What then? Do the muslims kneel on little rugs on the sidelines?
I like football, and I'd just as soon have my games not be pitched as the forces of light vs. the armies of darkness. If it wanted that I'd tune in to the inter-Madrassa league.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 02:58 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 03:00 PM (Ke2m6)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:00 PM (YO+5B)
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 06:58 PM (SgLsM)
We have your real name, and we know where you live.
Posted by: Muslim brotherhood at January 16, 2012 03:01 PM (lDaH4)
How about Ed Reed and I both grab a leg and make a wish?
Posted by: Ray Lewis at January 16, 2012 03:02 PM (sOXQX)
He just deflects any personal glory to God. I'm not real religious and I'm not having a problem with that.
Me neither, and it certainly doesn't appear as if the rest of the country has a problem with it, judging from ESPN's poll showing Tebow as the most popular athlete the other day. There's also another poll showing Americans believe in a Higher Power, over 90% consistently, and I don't think it's Cthulu.
We are still a Christian nation, and I still can't find anything wrong with that, anymore than I can find anything wrong with Tebow.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 16, 2012 03:02 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:02 PM (GULKT)
Denver fans like Tebow, and want to give him a chance. Like we did Elway back in the day.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 16, 2012 03:02 PM (i/wm2)
Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2012 03:03 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:03 PM (YO+5B)
And how he's a Reagan conservative.
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 07:00 PM (YO+5B)
I haven't watched a debate yet and I'm not about to start now.
Posted by: ErikW at January 16, 2012 03:03 PM (dA8Ib)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 03:03 PM (WNvlG)
Posted by: Madrasa Cheer Squad at January 16, 2012 03:03 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Ralph the Cabbage at January 16, 2012 03:04 PM (MNCju)
Posted by: Ray Lewis at January 16, 2012 07:02 PM (sOXQX)
Now, now, you know you'll get a flag for breathing on the QB like that.
Speaking of Ray Lewis, hey, Wodeshed, you know what I'd love? Not to have to have the NFL, ESPN, etc. etc. acting like Ray Lewis is some kind of fantastic person and great ambassador of the league. That is far, far, far more offensive than anything that Tebow has done.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:04 PM (Gk3SS)
I liked her, btw.
Posted by: Clarence at January 16, 2012 03:05 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Methos at January 16, 2012 03:05 PM (sOXQX)
What then? Do the muslims kneel on little rugs on the sidelines?
I like football, and I'd just as soon have my games not be pitched as the forces of light vs. the armies of darkness. If it wanted that I'd tune in to the inter-Madrassa league.
All I hear from you is OM(redacted)Z! If we let one guy show his faith; FAITH MIGHT SPREAD! We need to stamp this out NOW NOW NOW! IT's THE PLAGUE I TELL YOU!!!!
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 03:05 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 03:05 PM (WNvlG)
Speaking of Ray Lewis, hey, Wodeshed, you know what I'd love? Not to have to have the NFL, ESPN, etc. etc. acting like Ray Lewis is some kind of fantastic person and great ambassador of the league. That is far, far, far more offensive than anything that Tebow has done.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 03:06 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:06 PM (KUrJA)
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:06 PM (Gk3SS)
Speaking of Ray Lewis, hey, Wodeshed, you know what I'd love? Not to have to have the NFL, ESPN, etc. etc. acting like Ray Lewis is some kind of fantastic person and great ambassador of the league. That is far, far, far more offensive than anything that Tebow has done.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 07:04 PM (Gk3SS)
But Tebow forces Wodeshed to view his prayers and psychologically rapes him with his religiousness. Its pretty obvious that the extent of what the dumbass knows about what Tebow has said comes from sportwriters who think inserting religious imagery in their writing about him is clever and that stupid SNL skit.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:08 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2012 03:08 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at January 16, 2012 03:09 PM (h6mPj)
Speaking of Ray Lewis, hey, Wodeshed, you know what I'd love? Not to have to have the NFL, ESPN, etc. etc. acting like Ray Lewis is some kind of fantastic person and great ambassador of the league. That is far, far, far more offensive than anything that Tebow has done.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 07:04 PM (Gk3SS)
And they go absolutely gaga over Michael Vick. Even Vick playing pro football again is offensive to me.
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 03:09 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 06:24 PM (WNvlG)
I don't know about Tebow but the HGH increased my hat size in one year!! It also helped me to hit every fucking pitch near the strike zone over the fence...
Posted by: Barry Bonds at January 16, 2012 03:09 PM (3jGS1)
I hate to bring up the image - but Madonna's arms look like a heroin junkie's arms. Give me some wimmen that look like wimmen. Not this ersatz boys.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 03:10 PM (GaIwz)
Just me though - a lib capitalist heathen.
Posted by: Clarence at January 16, 2012 03:10 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:10 PM (niZvt)
Seriously. I could have caught some of those passes.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:11 PM (Gk3SS)
I think the Tebow thing fired up Brady to the point where he's going to go on a touchdown scoring jihad to prove what a "real quarterback" can do.
I just love that Brady guy.
Posted by: Satan at January 16, 2012 03:12 PM (lDaH4)
I think it's funny that you all think I'm some sort of atheistic liberal. I'm anything but, to tell you the truth.
I happen to like Tebow. I hope he does well. It doesn't bother me in the least that he gives thanks to God in his interviews.
What I DO object to is the Tebowing, which strikes me as showboating.
Look, I know it's the media that are setting him up as God's soldier and all that, but what it means is that his opponent is somehow evil, or the anti-God.
I'd really just like to see Denver play New England, instead of the Christians against the Lions.
Is that so wrong?
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 03:12 PM (SgLsM)
It's a convenient invention on which to focus the inner wrath derived from their own demons.
Projection is a handy tool when you have hollow arguments.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2012 03:12 PM (ZJCDy)
Ill say this -- we aint good witnesses.
You got that shit right.
Cussin, drinkin', no pants wearin', kitteh adorin', boobeh-lovin', gun-totin', knuckle-draggin Morons is what we be.
You know the Big Guy lurks here, and just shakes His head...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, CEO Curmudgeons INC. at January 16, 2012 03:12 PM (d0Tfm)
Does anyone really think the debates matter much, anymore?
Perry is primed to start climbing back into this thing!
Posted by: pity post at January 16, 2012 03:13 PM (MNCju)
After tonight, there are 7 more-
Jan. 19
Jan. 23
Jan. 26
Feb. 22
March 1
March 5
March 19
Posted by: Miss80s at January 16, 2012 03:13 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: bergerbilder at January 16, 2012 03:13 PM (j+Izh)
Is that so wrong?
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 07:12 PM (SgLsM)
I'd love the see "Christians versus Lions", the Lions would eat them alive....
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 03:14 PM (GaIwz)
Just me though - a lib capitalist heathen.
who dreams about a day when he can finally get laid. Football won't do it, try the lottery, if you can't attract em with money, you can go to Nevada and pay for it legal business like and all.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 03:14 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:14 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:14 PM (dVBif)
Posted by: Evan3457 at January 16, 2012 03:15 PM (J4B6X)
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:15 PM (GULKT)
Look, I know it's the media that are setting him up as God's soldier and all that, but what it means is that his opponent is somehow evil, or the anti-God.
I'd really just like to see Denver play New England, instead of the Christians against the Lions.
Is that so wrong?
Well, let's see, unfortunately for you, your prior comments above are still visible and those put paid to your massive, massive attempts to recast your position. Seriously, I haven't see backpedaling like this since Jake Blues tried to keep Princess Leia from shooting him.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:16 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 07:10 PM (GaIwz)
At this point Madonna looks more like an old, gym addicted transvestite than a woman. It is scary...
Posted by: Barry Bonds at January 16, 2012 03:16 PM (3jGS1)
What I DO object to is the Tebowing, which strikes me as showboating.
Look, I know it's the media that are setting him up as God's soldier and all that, but what it means is that his opponent is somehow evil, or the anti-God.
I'd really just like to see Denver play New England, instead of the Christians against the Lions.
Is that so wrong?
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 07:12 PM (SgLsM)
Oops. Sounds like you're trying to rationalize now.
Posted by: Satan at January 16, 2012 03:16 PM (lDaH4)
Our society should be thrilled there is at least one sports "hero" for our children to look up to.
... Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:14 PM (niZvt)
How soon you forget my 'Gift Baskets' and Car Service of Shame.
Posted by: Derek Jeter at January 16, 2012 03:16 PM (MNCju)
Is that so wrong?
If it means Tebow can't do what is in his heart and say a short prayer, Yeah it kind of is wrong. And Tebow knows less about showing his boat than I do about brain surgery.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 03:16 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Tebow at January 16, 2012 03:17 PM (eCnLg)
It would seem so, Sayer.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 07:15 PM (SgLsM)
A new Navy recruit is being given a tour of the vessel he shall be manning.. The ships captain is giving the tour: " this is the crew quarters...This is the mess hall", etc, etc.. The new recruit begins to think, and queries the captain: Sir, being that we are away at sea for a long period of time...what happens about sexual needs??" "oh" says the captain, "go to the back of the cargo hold and you will see a barrel with a hole..Give it a go. It'll be the best you ever had!". Bewildered, the recruit goes to the cargo hold and finds the barrel. The recruit has sex with the barrel and returns to the captain. Full of joy, he says, "You're right.. Its the best i ever had. I want to do it every day!" the captain replies, " well you can use it every day...except Mondays" the recruit asks "why not Mondays?" the captain says "Because Monday is your turn in the barrel!"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 03:17 PM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Evan3457 at January 16, 2012 07:15 PM (J4B6X)
G-D
Posted by: Tebow at January 16, 2012 07:17 PM (eCnLg)
Thread. Winner.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:17 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Cowboy at January 16, 2012 03:18 PM (So+7G)
Wow, some serious Tebow hate here. If you don't like the guy, then watch an Eagles game, with a quarterback who tortured dogs. Or a Patriots game, with a quarterback who dumped his baby son's mother for a hot supermodel. Or a Steelers game, with a quarterback who... etc etc etc.
I have fun with the Tebow haters at work. I tell them 'if you don't like Tebow the you PROBABLY HATE AMERICA!'
What people really don't like about Tebow is that he 'dares' to mention Jesus Christ by name on live television. There are elements in this country that have made it their mission in life to drive religion in to the background, and then along comes Tim Tebow and BOOM- Jesus Christ is back on TV. He can't be stopped. I'm sure you've all heard of the 1st Amendment and the Free Exercise clause.
So Sir John Elway has announced that next season, Tebow starts off as the presumptive starter. He'll get full benefit of the OTAs and minicamps and a full offseason of work to prepare. It's all on Tim whether he succeeds or not. He is going to get a legitimate shot.
In closing, 'if you don't like Tebow the you PROBABLY HATE AMERICA!'
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 03:18 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 03:18 PM (eCnLg)
The network wants Tebow to sit in as a guest analyst in its NFL studio Sunday. "We've had conversations with his people," CBS Sports Chairman Sean McManus said Sunday. "We have a request in. We haven't heard back."
CBS expects an answer by midweek. And Tebow's people might want to consider how such a cameo in CBS' studio can let a player send a message. Just replay a tape of the resolutely penitent Detroit Lion Ndamukong Suh on Sunday.
Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 03:19 PM (X6akg)
Not at all. I don't like the Tebowing. I thought I had made that clear. It seems like showboating to me.
I said nothing about prayers on the sidelines. I said nothing about comments in interviews. I said nothing about his beliefs.
What I DID say is that I would prefer to keep religion out of football, unless it's a matter of prayers to keep players healthy, etc.
I really don't think this is an especially controversial position, frankly.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 03:19 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: steevy at January 16, 2012 03:19 PM (7W3wI)
Look, I know it's the media that are setting him up as God's soldier and all that, but what it means is that his opponent is somehow evil, or the anti-God.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 07:12 PM (SgLsM)
No, it means he's praying for God's favor.
There's nothing wrong with that, God wishes to be loved by all.
People need to quit assigning everything to a particular cosmic signifigance.
God don't work that way.
Posted by: ErikW at January 16, 2012 03:19 PM (dA8Ib)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at January 16, 2012 07:17 PM (GaIwz)
For Clarence, every day is Monday.
Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2012 03:20 PM (MNCju)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 03:21 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 03:21 PM (FcR7P)
Speaking of Ray Lewis, hey, Wodeshed, you know what I'd love? Not to have to have the NFL, ESPN, etc. etc. acting like Ray Lewis is some kind of fantastic person and great ambassador of the league. That is far, far, far more offensive than anything that Tebow has done.
THANK you.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 16, 2012 03:21 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:22 PM (8dspl)
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 03:24 PM (8sCoq)
You know who spends a lot of time stressing that God doesn't care about who wins or loses a football game? Tim Tebow.
You're a dumbass Wodeshed.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:24 PM (GULKT)
I really don't think this is an especially controversial position, frankly.
First off, do you know what the content of his conversations with God are?
Two; Anytime you INSIST that someone NOT be allowed to pray, you should expect that to be controversial. Some of us think it's a right and stuff.
Third I'll give you another hint. The INSTANT he had detractors like yourself pressuring him to quit doing this, his faith demands that he continue. By complaining and saying he should stop you take his option to stop away. It's called a contradiction in faith.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 03:24 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Two Dogs Fucking at January 16, 2012 03:25 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 03:26 PM (eCnLg)
I think it's appropriate for an athlete to ask for strength, for health, etc. What I don't think is appropriate is for an athlete to fire up a pass with God guiding it into a receiver's hands. That's what I take exception to.
All the more reason to separate church and sports.
What I AM saying is that I'd like to watch a football game that is free of a religious overtone.
Yeah. You said nothing else at all about anything other than you think that Tebowing is showboating. That's all you said.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:26 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:26 PM (Ba6aP)
Ravens are getting disrespect from the Vegas sharps because New England is gonna destroy them this Sunday. The playoff game in '09 had no Welker (injured), no Hernandez or Gronkowski (college), and a defense that couldn't stop Ray Rice. Flacco threw for 40 yards in that game.
Giants/49ers is gonna be the NFL game of the year. Tremendous matchup, but I do doubt Alex Smith recaptures the magic from this week. But that D is for real.
Posted by: The Q at January 16, 2012 03:26 PM (LnQhT)
235 Who's moderating the debate tonight?
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 16, 2012 07:24 PM (6SKSx)
How about the guy from Newsweek?
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:26 PM (eCnLg)
Probably the usual Fox idiots. They suck at moderating these things. The best moderator of the debates has actually been Wolf Blitzer. And I really think that the debates should be scrapped for the candidate forums instead.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:28 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 16, 2012 03:28 PM (i/wm2)
Posted by: Jesusland at January 16, 2012 03:28 PM (jIlzK)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 03:29 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 03:29 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: irongrampa at January 16, 2012 03:29 PM (SAMxH)
I loathe the Ravens with an utter passion but I anticipate that the Ravens D is going to have sex done to them by the refs. That's not because I think that the refs/league are in the tank for the Patriots but because it most certainly seems that breathing hard in the vicinity of a QB or receiver is now verbotten in the NFL.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:29 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: the football at January 16, 2012 03:31 PM (E504d)
Posted by: Barry O at January 16, 2012 07:29 PM (I2LwF)
The oppressive, close minded, arrogant kind that you hate. American Football
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 03:31 PM (0q2P7)
In 2008, there were 21 debates during GOP primary season; this year, come March 15th, there will have been 29.
Posted by: Miss80s at January 16, 2012 03:32 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Capt Shitheadio at January 16, 2012 03:32 PM (BUcLz)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 07:29 PM (vUK/h)
I used to pray for more sex. Was I wrong?
Posted by: Wilt Chamberlain at January 16, 2012 03:33 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 03:33 PM (vUK/h)
At this point Madonna looks more like an old, gym addicted transvestite than a woman. It is scary...
Plus, she's a nazi.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 16, 2012 03:33 PM (i/wm2)
I live in Denver Metro so I am exposed to more Tebow coverage than most of you. Tebow has made it clear that God does not care about the outcome of a football game, and that he (Tebow) does not pray for victory. Tebow is not trying to convert his teammates. They all know who he is and what he's about, and they respect him for it.
Tebow is what he is. There he stands; he can do no other.
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 03:33 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:33 PM (niZvt)
It's the same with Tebow. Only his detractors and haters have accused him of praying to God for ridiculous things like intervening in a football game. And that goes to non-believers misunderstanding of why people pray.
Understood. But if Tebow were truly thinking as you do, wouldn't he be bowing PRIOR to the play rather AFTER the touchdown?
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 03:33 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: Snake Pliskin at January 16, 2012 03:34 PM (jiwQf)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 03:34 PM (eCnLg)
Here's a question, does anyone think a single one of those will have actually elicited a decent question or intelligent information about the candidates?
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:34 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:34 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 16, 2012 03:34 PM (SbxFW)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 16, 2012 03:35 PM (lJJMb)
Understood. But if Tebow were truly thinking as you do, wouldn't he be bowing PRIOR to the play rather AFTER the touchdown?
After a big success is a great time to pray for humility.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 03:36 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:36 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:36 PM (ZgBZU)
Posted by: forest at January 16, 2012 03:36 PM (yCT6Q)
Understood. But if Tebow were truly thinking as you do, wouldn't he be bowing PRIOR to the play rather AFTER the touchdown?
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 07:33 PM (SgLsM)
As someone who claims that they really aren't a non-religious person you really seem to be completely ignorant of anything relating to prayer of any kind.
Should have taken my advice dumbass.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:37 PM (GULKT)
Be especially on the lookout for Bernard Pollard, who the Ravens signed this season.
He was the guy that crippled Brady at the start of the 08 season.
If he gets within 5 yards of Brady, there'll be more flags flying than at Betsy Ross's place.
Posted by: The Q at January 16, 2012 03:38 PM (LnQhT)
You know what else people forget about Tim Tebow?
A doctor said he should be killed while in his mom's womb.
Thanks for the help, but I've got 'em on the ropes!
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 03:38 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:38 PM (vzLhi)
I am convinced that the debates' only purpose is for the media to try to make Republicans look stupid
guarding the palace gates and all that
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 03:38 PM (8sCoq)
Yes, you're wrong. Should have prayed for a $7.5 million dollar penis instead.
Posted by: befuddled at January 16, 2012 03:39 PM (xJU23)
just me, but yuck!
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 07:34 PM (eCnLg)
No, it's yuck that it is apparently now completely fair game to go after the romantic and sexual histories of candidates wives.
Explain to me why anyone who is not an utter sociopath would consider running for office these days.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:39 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: tasker at January 16, 2012 03:39 PM (r2PLg)
Should have taken my advice dumbass.
Not so sure the ad hominems are the page you ought to be taking from Clarence's playbook, bro.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 03:40 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 03:40 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:42 PM (vanqS)
Be especially on the lookout for Bernard Pollard, who the Ravens signed this season.
He was the guy that crippled Brady at the start of the 08 season.
If he gets within 5 yards of Brady, there'll be more flags flying than at Betsy Ross's place.
I'd forgotten he was the one who did that. You're right, if he wanders onto the same side of the line of scrimage as Brady, that's a flag.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:42 PM (Gk3SS)
For someone that says the following
"Look, I'm not claiming that I think HE is putting this forward, but logically if God is involved in supporting him, he is actively against the other team.
I think it's appropriate for an athlete to ask for strength, for health, etc. What I don't think is appropriate is for an athlete to fire up a pass with God guiding it into a receiver's hands. That's what I take exception to."
Dumbass is not an ad hominem. Its a valid evaluation of the individual. Dumbass.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:42 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 03:42 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 03:43 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: palerider at January 16, 2012 03:43 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 03:43 PM (LPRBM)
Looking at him, just now, something struck me about his looks. Not that it matters, but it might explain his going after Santorum last week about his views on gay marriage.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 03:43 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: befuddled at January 16, 2012 03:43 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 07:38 PM (vzLhi)
It drives the lefties into madness.
Tebow is like the anti-satan.
Posted by: ErikW at January 16, 2012 03:44 PM (dA8Ib)
Classy going after the sexual history of the wife prior to marriage. I was going to say what's next XXXX
where XXXX is sleazier than what they've done. I couldn't think of anything.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 16, 2012 03:45 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: sifty at January 16, 2012 03:45 PM (WsOiK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:46 PM (niZvt)
280 I thought Peyton got hurt at the end of last season and then had surgery during the offseason?
Yeah it was last season. Actually its probably been more of a cumulative effect. Last I heard it sounded like his back and neck were fine and now the concern might be a nerve/muscle in his throwing arm. I think Indy is in a tough situation with him. If he's still as good as he was last year then he is worth every penny of his contract to your team and you'd be stupid to trade him away. And if he's damaged good and will never be at the level again then you probably won't find anyone willing to take him with the contract that he has.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:46 PM (GULKT)
Looking at him, just now, something struck me about his looks.
It looks like he's had some (read a lot) of work done, not particularly well either.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:46 PM (Gk3SS)
Still the world we live in, just the fact that it is a big fat hairy deal that Tebow expresses his faith like he does; to me means that we could stand a lot more folks emulating him.
Most reasonable reasonable comment of the evening. Other than this:
Jesus loves you, you fucking idiot.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 03:46 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: the football at January 16, 2012 03:46 PM (E504d)
Jesus loves you, you fucking idiot.
F'n hilarious. I'm going to suggest these to my pastor as witnessing aids.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 16, 2012 03:47 PM (SbxFW)
Sheppard Smith isn't out of the closet. But the closet he's in does have a glory hole.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 03:47 PM (I2LwF)
Looking at him, just now, something struck me about his looks. Not that it matters, but it might explain his going after Santorum last week about his views on gay marriage.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 07:43 PM (piMMO)
He's might be gay (not scanning society trashblogs to find evidence one way or the other), but he's definitely a leftie. They're both choices, but at least the prior is based in a reality that currently exists, e.g. if you like guys, you like guys. Leftism is choosing to believe that the world works in ways that reality and history have proven it does not, and will not going forward.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 16, 2012 03:47 PM (lJJMb)
I fully expect that the Colts will work out a deal with Peyton in which he ends up on the coaching staff or in management with the contract bought out for a stake in the team.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:48 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:48 PM (niZvt)
Don't get me started.
Posted by: Jeri Ryan at January 16, 2012 03:49 PM (SbxFW)
Looking at him, just now, something struck me about his looks. Not that it matters, but it might explain his going after Santorum last week about his views on gay marriage.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 07:43 PM (piMMO)
I thought this was a pretty common assumption about him, no?
Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 03:49 PM (X6akg)
Don't know about gay, but he is a bombastic dandy and it gets pretty irritating after about 10 seconds or so.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2012 03:49 PM (ZJCDy)
wiki says
Personal life
Smith married Virginia Donald, a University of Mississippi classmate, in 1987. They divorced in 1993 with no children
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 03:51 PM (8sCoq)
A doctor said he should be killed while in his mom's womb.
Posted by: soothie at January 16, 2012 07:36 PM (ZgBZU)
And that story is one of the big reasons the left hate him. He's the antithesus to their holy sacrement -- Abortion.
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 03:51 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:51 PM (niZvt)
Oh is that what that little hole is for... I thought it was a peephole into the yogurt factory.
Posted by: Tom Cruisin' at January 16, 2012 03:52 PM (tWSgZ)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 16, 2012 03:52 PM (SbxFW)
Yeah, rattle Tom Brady, that's a great strategy, go with that.
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 16, 2012 03:52 PM (Qjh0I)
I fully expect that the Colts will work out a deal with Peyton in which he ends up on the coaching staff or in management with the contract bought out for a stake in the team.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 07:48 PM (Gk3SS)
Eh, I kind of doubt that. At least because he still wants to play. He was practicing during the end of the season. He wasn't dressing for the games but he certainly was in practice. I don't think he's done yet. And even if he is traded away I expect things to be so much more amicable than when the Brett Favre Drama Train finally pulled out of Green Bay.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:52 PM (GULKT)
Is Shep Smith gay?
If not, he's missing a golden opportunity.
Posted by: USS Diversity at January 16, 2012 03:52 PM (PddVe)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 03:53 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 03:53 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 03:53 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 16, 2012 07:52 PM (SbxFW)
I'm not sure. But Green Bay defeated NY earlier in the season.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:53 PM (GULKT)
And that story is one of the big reasons the left hate him. He's the antithesus to their holy sacrement -- Abortion.
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 07:51 PM (lDaH4)
I could make the argument for a Holy War from here on out...
Posted by: ErikW at January 16, 2012 03:54 PM (dA8Ib)
How about mocking the loss of a child... oh wait...
Posted by: Alex at January 16, 2012 03:54 PM (R69Kd)
It might not, in fact probably won't be, next season, but I do expect there to be a fairly classy transition from playing to coaching/vp of operations or some such.
I still say that Peyton Manning should win MVP since, clearly, he was the single most valuable player in the entire Colts organization.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 03:54 PM (Gk3SS)
What do they have against Africans??
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 07:53 PM (niZvt)
I was just reading that story. Unbelievable!
Posted by: Tami at January 16, 2012 03:54 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: TendStl at January 16, 2012 03:56 PM (kb15i)
I am really, really glad I wasn't drinking anything just now.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 03:56 PM (piMMO)
Yes, but it was a pick'em game (Eli 10 yards away from tying it) and the Giants were missing a bunch of key guys then that are back now.
Posted by: The Q at January 16, 2012 03:57 PM (LnQhT)
I grew up an unbeliever, but it's pretty obvious to me that most of the more vocal atheists are from a religious background and are basically projecting their daddy issues onto God and/or the Pope (for ex-Catholics).
Tebow is a rarity in pro sports: an athlete who isn't a vicious illiterate thug. Rather than celebrate this, far too many people seem to be mad at him for making all the vicious illiterate thugs look bad.
Tell you what, fellow atheists: if Tim Tebow should stop professing his faith in public, then Richard Dawkins should stop professing his absence of faith.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2012 03:58 PM (rCEvh)
I still say that Peyton Manning should win MVP since, clearly, he was the single most valuable player in the entire Colts organization.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 07:54 PM (Gk3SS)
Yep I was saying that several times during the season. Clearly he was the determining factor in whether the Colts won or lost.
It was kind of poetic that Orlovsky broke their losing streak though, since he was QB for the Lions when they went 0-16.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 03:58 PM (GULKT)
wiki says
Personal life
Smith married Virginia Donald, a University of Mississippi classmate, in 1987. They divorced in 1993 with no children
Duh. I don't why I didn't just look it up! I've become lazy now, expecting the morons to know everything off the tops of their little heads so I don't have to look it up.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 03:59 PM (piMMO)
I believe Urban Meyer coached Smith at one point, too, and a number of players have very recently been raising comparisons between Smith and Tebow.
Posted by: The Q at January 16, 2012 03:59 PM (LnQhT)
I believe Urban Meyer coached Smith at one point, too, and a number of players have very recently been raising comparisons between Smith and Tebow.
Posted by: The Q at January 16, 2012 07:59 PM (LnQhT)
The article I linked at 30 talks about that. Yeah they are both Urban Meyer Offensive Scheme products Smith at Utah Tebow at Florida. Of course Tebow also has a few more trophies under his belt in that system too.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 04:02 PM (GULKT)
Looking at Tebow's Wiki page, I don't know how the hell he had time in college to do anything but attend awards ceremonies.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 04:03 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 04:04 PM (piMMO)
He threw for the 6th most yards in NFL history in 2009.
The Texans are a serious force now, and will be absolutely dominant going forward. They have an All Pro RB, an All Pro WR, and a #1 or #2 defense.
This year they lost one starter to injury in every single game, and still made the post season. They lost to the Ravens by one score because of a 3rd string rookie QB with 7 NFL starts.
Don't let primetime appearances dictate how you rank teams. That's also why no one knew how good the 49ers really were this year.
Posted by: Brisco_County at January 16, 2012 04:05 PM (m7Pub)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 04:05 PM (eCnLg)
Matt Schaub also gets a little underrated because he's the forgotten QB from the glorious 04 draft.
Eli, Roethlisberger, & Rivers have all become top tier QBs, and Schaub's put up numbers that ought to put him close to that
Posted by: The Q at January 16, 2012 04:07 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 08:05 PM (eCnLg)
My money will be on Perry bringing this up tonight first unless its specifically asked about by one of the moderators.
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 04:07 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2012 04:08 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 08:05 PM (eCnLg)
Yes. Obama's a dick.
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 04:08 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 04:08 PM (eCnLg)
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 04:09 PM (Ke2m6)
I still can't believe Ace actually wrote a sports post. I have to zoom to the top every once in a while just to make sure this is really happening.
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 04:09 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 16, 2012 04:10 PM (i/wm2)
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 04:13 PM (lDaH4)
Obama's timidness notwithstanding, do you think he's going to piss-off the "reset" Russians too, over a country (an ally!) that him and his advisers couldn't care less about?
Attack on Iran threat to Russia
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 16, 2012 04:14 PM (UR5vq)
Tebow does not call any of the plays. I watched as play after play, Tebow was in that option formation, got snap and handed ball off to runner and a Denver defensive player was in their face almost immediately. Tebow was scrambling on almost every play because Denver was getting to him so quickly. Whether it was poor offensive line play, Denver defence playing better than normal or the play that was coming was too obvious, but it was a massacre for poor Tebow.
Look, he is a rookie. I just hope that the coaching staff will have the guts to load him up with a lot more plays and get him throwing more and more to see if he can pick up the receivers. If he can't handle it then, well, then we will know if he is good enough or not.
Considering what he had to work with and that this is just a young team turning things around, I think Denver did a great job this year.
Posted by: PhilipJames at January 16, 2012 04:15 PM (G9AXq)
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 04:18 PM (I2LwF)
Ah, Jim DeMint on FNC. What could have been.
No lie. Imagine a DeMint/Rubio ticket. *drool*
I suspect he's just too normal a guy to ever consider running.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 04:18 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: steevy at January 16, 2012 04:18 PM (7W3wI)
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 16, 2012 08:01 PM (eCnLg)
I should have that, don't know why I don't.
I'd also like Crimson Tide, that's a cool flick too.
Posted by: ErikW at January 16, 2012 04:18 PM (dA8Ib)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at January 16, 2012 08:10 PM (i/wm2)
Envy is a real bitch. Not only does it cause people to complain about a mid-grade NFL quarterback like he was responsible for hangnails and the 'flu, it also gave rise to each and every iteration of collectivist "gimme" political systems attempted in history. Not jealousy, mind, but envy. You can be jealous of, or covetous of, your neighbor's car / wife / job / whatever, but once you cross the line wherein you say "if I can't have it, why should he / she?", you're in envytown. Welcome to being a twisted and sad person, incapable of enjoying what you have, no matter its worth.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 16, 2012 04:18 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 04:19 PM (WNvlG)
I'm running decent virus and malware programs. I also run CCleaner every few days. Does anyone have a fix for the computer slowing down? I've eliminated unneeded stuff.
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 04:20 PM (Ke2m6)
Modified a bit.
This is why I've become a Tebow fan, and want him to do well. Like Sarah Palin, the right people hate him. And by "right people", I mean bitter, miserable little lefty twerps like Bill Maher and that Rabbi Douchenozzle guy who wrote that silly hate piece about him a while back. Those guys are lower than the gunk I scape off the bottom of my shoes. For them to be dishing out the hysterical Tebow hatred is actually a compliment.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 16, 2012 04:20 PM (SbxFW)
Posted by: how can I explain personal pain at January 16, 2012 04:23 PM (ELPgk)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 16, 2012 04:23 PM (SbxFW)
GB looked shell shocked by the 4th quarter
Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2012 04:23 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Beldar at January 16, 2012 04:23 PM (4jeN4)
Posted by: baldilocks at January 16, 2012 04:24 PM (T2/zQ)
I'm running decent virus and malware programs. I also run CCleaner every few days. Does anyone have a fix for the computer slowing down? I've eliminated unneeded stuff.
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 08:20 PM (Ke2m6)
How old is your machine, what OS, processor, RAM, etc? I can't help you much, but I'm sure other morons can with the right details.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 16, 2012 04:24 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 04:24 PM (I2LwF)
You should occasionally run your virus programs while in safe mode. For some reason, the same programs catch more while in safe mode.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 04:24 PM (piMMO)
I'm running decent virus and malware programs. I also run CCleaner every few days. Does anyone have a fix for the computer slowing down? I've eliminated unneeded stuff.
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 08:20 PM (Ke2m6)
You're testing my computer skillz here, dagny, but I thing it needs oiling.
Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2012 04:25 PM (lDaH4)
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 04:26 PM (Ke2m6)
The Ravens won't make it a shootout no matter how bad NE's defense is, so if Brady is connecting those short passes all day long, it'll be another boring blowout
Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2012 04:27 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 04:29 PM (WNvlG)
The Ravens won't make it a shootout no matter how bad NE's defense is, so if Brady is connecting those short passes all day long, it'll be another boring blowout
Don't forget the tight end dilemma. Hernandez as a running back and Gronkowski's catch/run ability? It's pretty remarkable what they're doing up there.
Posted by: Wodeshed at January 16, 2012 04:31 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: mike at January 16, 2012 08:29 PM (WNvlG)
I bet they get a lot of shit for being fans of "the enemy"
Posted by: buzzion at January 16, 2012 04:31 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 16, 2012 04:35 PM (niZvt)
The Ravens won't make it a shootout no matter how bad NE's defense is, so if Brady is connecting those short passes all day long, it'll be another boring blowout
Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2012 08:27 PM (Y+DPZ)
The Pats' tight ends can't be covered under any normal scheme. That's why they're so devastating. If you attempt to bring your safeties up to help, you're leaving either Welker or Branch with man coverage, which is an invitation for big plays to the outside, and also the middle with Welker, as he is possibly the most precise route-runner in football today. Bawlmer must get to Brady quickly and consistently - there is no way to cover the Pats' WRs and TEs for any extended period.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 16, 2012 04:35 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 04:35 PM (Ke2m6)
For a brief time, Alex Smith was Joe Montana reincarnate
Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2012 04:36 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Clarence at January 16, 2012 04:39 PM (z0HdK)
Does anyone have a fix for the computer slowing down?
adjust the tension on the hard drive belt.
Posted by: Jones at January 16, 2012 04:40 PM (8sCoq)
It could be the fragging that did it in. You gotta be careful with grenades. Defragging is kinda like trying to fix Humpty Dumpty
Posted by: ontherocks at January 16, 2012 04:41 PM (ZJCDy)
Bawlmer must get to Brady quickly and consistently - there is no way to cover the Pats' WRs and TEs for any extended period.
Running game? Who needs a running game?
Posted by: Bill Belichek at January 16, 2012 04:42 PM (SgLsM)
Posted by: Rick s at January 16, 2012 04:43 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: dagny at January 16, 2012 08:35 PM (Ke2m6)
I just rid of my 6 year old PC a few months ago (XP, not Vista), and had a huge improvement in performance with the increase in processor and RAM power. With high-bandwidth and web 2.0 stuff, it's possible that your 5 year old processor just can't push the firehose of modern internet through the drinking fountain that is your old machine.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 16, 2012 04:44 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Bill Belichek at January 16, 2012 08:42 PM (SgLsM)
They'll run, but it's incidental. Opposite what conventional wisdom was prior to Bill Walsh, the Pats use the pass to set up the run. Presented with an easy 4 yards on the ground, they'll take it, but it's certainly not their bread and butter. I can see why it's so easy to hate them and respect them at the same time.
If Brady is Rommel, who is going to be Patton?
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 16, 2012 04:47 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 04:47 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at January 16, 2012 04:48 PM (je9Ke)
I'm running decent virus and malware programs. I also run CCleaner every few days. Does anyone have a fix for the computer slowing down? I've eliminated unneeded stuff.
I'm terrified to use CC cleaner. It'll probably delete all of my stored passwords, history that I want to keep and every cache file that lets my old box load quickly.
I ran it once to clean my registry and it seemed to help but I've used similar programs that eradicated all sorts of cookies and passwords I wanted to keep.
These kinds of programs usually allow you to pick and choose which files and cookies you want to keep, but since they number into the thousands, all with enigmatic file names, I'm very leery about using CC cleaner and similar programs.
They'd be great if their instructions were written for the non computer geek.
The best thing I've done to improve my computer performance was to get an external drive so my C drive is only 75% full. Combined with a defrag it helped for a while but I'm back to daily lock ups again.
Malwarebytes never found a thing on my PC and only wasted disk space.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 16, 2012 04:49 PM (7+pP9)
The American Top Gear is an abomination once you watch the real one.
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 04:50 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 04:51 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 16, 2012 04:54 PM (vUK/h)
Posted by: alexthechick at January 16, 2012 08:50 PM (Gk3SS)
Meh, I thought on its own, the US version was alright, but it's pretty weak tea in comparison to the original. Clarkson and co. seem like they can get away with a lot more awesome, slightly asshole-ish things than the American hosts can.
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at January 16, 2012 04:55 PM (je9Ke)
As a Patriots fan who enjoys the exes and ohs and so forth of football, I think there's two things you can do to slow down the Pats offense.
And there is nothing else you can do to beat the Patriots, unless you're the Manning Colts or the Rodgers Packers-- you can't outscore them.
1) beat the crap out of the receivers. This is less effective with Gronk in the picture, but you can take the receivers out of the play in this manner.
2) I cannot stress this enough: You have to get to Brady. You have to put a hand in his face, or push the center into his lap, or get the back of his jersey dirty. He makes the best decisions in the NFL when he is clean and pretty. He makes some bad decisions when he's got a boo boo and he might get another one on any given snap.
If you can't get to Brady on a regular basis, then you can't beat the Patriots. That's all.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 04:56 PM (I2LwF)
I've been using it for years with no problem. Select what you do, and what you don't want to delete.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 05:03 PM (piMMO)
If you can't get to Brady on a regular basis, then you can't beat the Patriots. That's all.
Agreed.
Posted by: 2007 NY Giants at January 16, 2012 05:04 PM (SgLsM)
As a Patriots fan who enjoys the exes and ohs and so forth of football, I think there's two things you can do to slow down the Pats offense.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 08:56 PM1. Put Ray Lewis in his usual street clothes
2. Lewis shoots Brady
Posted by: Meghan McCain at January 16, 2012 05:04 PM (Y+DPZ)
As someone else said here yesterday: Norse gods.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2012 05:05 PM (piMMO)
As a Patriots fan who enjoys the exes and ohs and so forth of football, I think there's two things you can do to slow down the Pats offense.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 08:56 PMAs a Jets fan I am required to hate you
Posted by: kbdabear at January 16, 2012 05:05 PM (Y+DPZ)
1) beat the crap out of the receivers. This is less effective with Gronk in the picture, but you can take the receivers out of the play in this manner.
2) I cannot stress this enough: You have to get to Brady. You have to put a hand in his face, or push the center into his lap, or get the back of his jersey dirty. He makes the best decisions in the NFL when he is clean and pretty. He makes some bad decisions when he's got a boo boo and he might get another one on any given snap.
If you can't get to Brady on a regular basis, then you can't beat the Patriots. That's all.
Posted by: Truman North at January 16, 2012 08:56 PM (I2LwF)
The first cannot be done with tight ends. They're too fast for DEs, and LBs have other responsibilities that make it nearly impossible to hit the TEs inside the legal zone for contact, which is within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. Any attempt to bring 'backers up to hit Gronkowski and Hernandez inside 5 yards and disrupt their routes will result in the 'Pats (boo!) immediately having success running the ball.
The second is necessary. It is the only way, short of a voodoo hex, or Brady and his receivers having the turnover and dropped-passes type of day the Packers just had. No defense exists that has the resources to cover all the Pats' weapons for more than a few seconds. To be successful, the D must get to Brady and force him into bad positions, or the offense must be effective enough to outscore the Patriots. As bad as the Pats' defense has been, this can be an option, but I don't see it as likely for the teams remaining in the playoffs.
/Bear fan, no dog in this fight, just love football
Posted by: raykon at January 16, 2012 05:07 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 16, 2012 05:26 PM (rCEvh)
Posted by: RayCon Sucks at January 16, 2012 05:34 PM (xtMRY)
Posted by: RayCon Sucks at January 16, 2012 05:57 PM (xtMRY)
I mean science, art, facts, education?
Fuck that shit!
When did douchebags corner the market on science and facts?Was it before or after double spacing all their sentences. Perhaps it was on the same time line that they learned to anal fist themselves.
Posted by: befuddled at January 16, 2012 06:13 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 16, 2012 07:29 PM (vahvH)
like to face the Gints. The whole team knows that the window of great seasons left for Brady playing is small and there has been a sense of urgency to this team all season.
http://tinyurl.com/88b3oyt
Posted by: Al Gore's Second Chakra at January 16, 2012 07:33 PM (Hq48F)
" I don't recall anyone trying to run him out of town"
[speaking of Alex Smith]
You obviously don't live in the Bay Area or know any 49er fans. There has never been a hometown athlete so hated as Smith was until this year, having to live up to the legacy of Montana and Young and falling so conspicuously short. Didn't help that the 49ers passed up Rodgers to draft him. Lots of arguments about whether it was the galactically incompetent offensive coaching (until this year) or he just sucked. Luckily (I've been a die-hard 49er fan since before Walsh and Montana) the answer now looks like it's the coaching. If Tebow gets coaching as bad as Alex's 1st 6 years he will *want* to leave Denver.
Posted by: Gary Rosen at January 16, 2012 11:25 PM (9CzKK)
I'm still VERY disappointed in brady's actions against Tebow and the atrocious behavior of the MA fans.
Posted by: J at January 17, 2012 06:22 AM (T3/qP)
Sorry guys, I'm a huge Pats fan, and it felt really, really good to put an end to Tebowmania, at least for this year. Now I know how everyone else feels when Brady comes to town.
Posted by: Mr_UNIVAC at January 17, 2012 06:30 AM (TVbdM)
Because it occurs to me that, if I were a marketing genius, I'd want to play up the religious angle in order to bring in viewers who otherwise didn't care about Denver. Controversy sells, after all. So deliberately make some Tebow-bashing stunts like the SNL skit. Play it up like it's some kind of WWF match between Light and Dark, Good and Evil, God versus the Devil (or, if you prefer, Orthodoxy versus Freedom). That way all the rubes can tune in and scream themselves hoarse over what is, in the end, just a football game.
Bottom line is that both the religious people defending Tebow and the atheists attacking him are being played for fools.
Posted by: Brian Pendell at January 17, 2012 06:38 AM (GDDIu)
@423 I'm still VERY disappointed in brady's actions against Tebow and the atrocious behavior of the MA fans.
What actions against Tebow? What atrocious behavior? I was at that game, and the worst thing that happened was a TEEEEEEEBOW chant from the whole stadium in the 3rd quarter, which was funny as hell. I can see how you might think the Brady punt was insulting, since it was a huge slap at "Tebow time," but it's a legit NFL play.
I had to listen to a whole week of Tebow lovefests and hype, not to mention assertions that the Pats can't win playoff games and that Denver was on fire and going to steamroll us. I have nothing against Tebow personally. I think he's a nice guy, that being religious is a VERYGOOD thing in most cases, and that it's not his fault that the media hyped him up like it did. Despite that, it still felt awesome to totally dominate that game just to shut everyone up.
Posted by: Mr_UNIVAC at January 17, 2012 07:00 AM (GlBgT)
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