October 14, 2012

Today in History, October 14, 1912: Teddy Roosevelt Takes a Bullet
— Dave in Texas

Yeah, he shouldn't a gone all Bull Moose Party. But he still took a bullet.

That counts for something.

on October 14, 1912, Theodore Roosevelt was shot in Milwaukee by would-be assassin John Schrank, who had stalked him for three weeks through eight states. With a .38-calibre bullet still in his chest and blood soaking through his clothes, Roosevelt nevertheless addressed an audience of 9,000-12,000 people in Milwaukee Auditorium for 80 minutes, joking at one point that "It takes more than one bullet to kill a Bull Moose."

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Make my day

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That's a pretty good speech there Ted-row

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 02:51 PM | Comments (380)
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1 He also gets points for ending his speech at the Bull Moose convention with "WE STAND AT ARMAGEDDON AND WE BATTLE FOR THE *LORD*!"


Posted by: Knemon at October 14, 2012 02:53 PM (wmMZ3)

2 Can you imagine Barky doing that?

Posted by: Vic at October 14, 2012 02:54 PM (YdQQY)

3 Holy crap.  Really?  Whoa.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 14, 2012 02:55 PM (m/eXi)

4 Am I the only one who thinks TFG would break down weeping if he got a paper cut during a speech?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 02:55 PM (Gk3SS)

5 Back when TOTUS was in paper form.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 14, 2012 02:56 PM (AzDzi)

6 I still could have taken him.

Posted by: Andrew Jackson at October 14, 2012 02:57 PM (/YJYi)

7 He was an interesting narcissist, like Obama.

If he doesn't run we don't have Wilson as president and we don't get in WWI.  Germany sues for peace and we don't have WWII, no Hitler.

We don't have SIX million Jews killed.  We don't have Stalin, 30 million killed

So he was a TOTAL ASSHOLE.

History, changed by one asshole's ego.  Disgusting.

Remember, elections count, VOTE as your life depends on it.

IT DOES.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 02:57 PM (wR+pz)

8 Teddy was one of the last old school speakers in the presidency too, the ones who gave it an old fashioned formal presentation with a special speaking voice used only for speeches.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 02:58 PM (AeC6r)

9

USA  Today  Electoral  Race:

 

Obama  201

Romney  191

Tossups  146

 

That's with Florida as a tossup, among other things.

 

Saw a line somewhere I liked:  Polls are lagging indicators, the trend is what matters.

 

Someone  hardest   hit.

Posted by: Meremortal, polls! at October 14, 2012 02:58 PM (1Y+hH)

10 Milwaukee, eh?  Figures.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 02:59 PM (P6QsQ)

11 alexthechick, about minute 1:30 of Dragon Half is how I imagine TFG responding to a paper cut.
http://youtu.be/WnPMxhs1cDc

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 02:59 PM (iJ34D)

12 That's also with NC as a toss-up.  Once those 15 electoral votes go to Romney, he's ahead.

Posted by: Popcorn at October 14, 2012 03:00 PM (uIpSF)

13 He was an interesting narcissist, like Obama.

He would have never went into self imposed exile if he were a narcissist.  I think he had a strong ego and a sense the the USA was destined for bigger things.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:01 PM (U6/KF)

14 If he doesn't run we don't have Wilson as president and we don't get in WWI.

Remember that under Wilson 1913-16 America hadn't joined the war. (And if TR had been President 1913-16, America would have joined that war immediately.)

Given a President Wilson or Taft 1913-16, The election that mattered for getting into the war was 1916, not 1912.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 14, 2012 03:01 PM (QTHTd)

15 A quick aside: The Yanks are gonna lose this series and maybe even 4-0, but they are getting jobbed by the Umps and at home to boot. That play at second was inexcusable.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 14, 2012 03:01 PM (j1gX1)

16 7 He was an interesting narcissist, like Obama. If he doesn't run we don't have Wilson as president and we don't get in WWI. Germany sues for peace and we don't have WWII, no Hitler. We don't have SIX million Jews killed. We don't have Stalin, 30 million killed So he was a TOTAL ASSHOLE. Oh great. Now we have history according to Joe Biden. You're so grossly misinformed that you must be a public school teacher.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Dispatches) at October 14, 2012 03:02 PM (p4U6S)

17 @12

The chances of NC going for Obama? 

Same as Greg getting  Axe's dick out of his mouth.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:02 PM (wR+pz)

18

..."Bully!"

 

Teddy Roosevelt always said that.

I never understood why, exactly.

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 03:02 PM (l5RhJ)

19 I recommend that someone visit any pundit claiming swing-state status for NC or FL, and give that pundit a mighty wedgie.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 14, 2012 03:02 PM (QTHTd)

20 ...speaking of bullying

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 14, 2012 03:02 PM (QTHTd)

21 FL is in the bag.  The only way Obama wins here is with obvious and unprecedented levels of fraud even the media couldn't cover up.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:02 PM (U6/KF)

22

"USA Today ElectoralRace:

Obama 201
Romney 191
Tossups 146

That's with Florida as a tossup, among other things."

 

I think that Romney can take central Florida, Miami and the Panhandle.

Posted by: Masshole at October 14, 2012 03:02 PM (A+LLj)

23 Teddy Roosevelt was a better man than just some narcissist. He made something of himself in his life, too, he wasn't just an empty chair with a huge ego. All politicians have an unrealistically great opinion of themselves, its like being the front man for a band: you have to be willing to go out and be in front of cameras and sell yourself without shame or self consciousness. Only a really big ego can even try that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:03 PM (AeC6r)

24

Whatever else he did...Teddy was a badass.

 

That is all.

Posted by: Meremortal, polls! at October 14, 2012 03:03 PM (1Y+hH)

25 Who knew? Liberal men would milk this to death... these days.

Posted by: great NFL Sunday, so far at October 14, 2012 03:03 PM (LpQbZ)

26 Tensions are high in Florida.

Posted by: Masshole at October 14, 2012 03:03 PM (A+LLj)

27 "Whatever else he did...Teddy was a badass." Yes! And he was a gifted hunter.

Posted by: Masshole at October 14, 2012 03:03 PM (A+LLj)

28

Why did  pince-nez  fall out of fashion?  And huccome women no longer use lorgnettes?  Someone   should  do a photoshop of what  TR  would   look  like in glasses. 

 

  Come to think of it, Biden has sort of photoshopped himself in real life when you consider the tooth veneers and the hairplugs.

Posted by: obie doobie at October 14, 2012 03:04 PM (Q2wni)

29 7 He was an interesting narcissist, like Obama.

If he doesn't run we don't have Wilson as president and we don't get in WWI. Germany sues for peace and we don't have WWII, no Hitler.

We don't have SIX million Jews killed. We don't have Stalin, 30 million killed

So he was a TOTAL ASSHOLE.

History, changed by one asshole's ego. Disgusting.

________

That's a huuuuuge stretch at best.  History is linear, but current events are not.  At the time, those were current events, so saying that avoiding a TR presidency would've avoided WWII and so on cannot be done with any degree of certainty.

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 14, 2012 03:04 PM (0qaTS)

30 Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 06:57 PM (wR+pz) You're arguing a logical fallacy. History plays out the way it plays out, with about a million billion variables shaping each distinct event in a given causal chain. That's why we classify alternate histories as fiction, from which fantasy authors like Harry Turtledove make lots and lots of money. So get a grip. Note the 'fantasy' part of fantasy authors. Blaming Teddy Roosevelt for Hitler is off-the-charts ridiculous.

Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (ptcFO)

31 @14 &16

Taft wins, none of this happens. PERIOD.

I'll be glad to debate you on 20th century history, I taught it in college.




Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (wR+pz)

32 Has Obama ever fired a gun?

Posted by: Masshole at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (A+LLj)

33 All these numbers being thrown around and talk about polls, one thing is really clear to me: one or both sides in this are fooling themselves mightily. The left seems absolutely sure Obama easily wins, the right seems sure Romney cruises to victory and all the usually reliable sources for data say its too close to tell. Its going to be a long, cold winter for a lot of people however this turns out.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (AeC6r)

34 50 hours until next debate

Posted by: great NFL Sunday, so far at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (LpQbZ)

35 alexthechick, about minute 1:30 of Dragon Half is how I imagine TFG responding to a paper cut.


That is it.  That is it exactly.


Though this works too.  http://youtu.be/QCOzKufIIzs

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (Gk3SS)

36 No Wilson, no Fed? No Wilson, no income tax act?

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (/BwGa)

37 Not only did pince-nez and lorgnettes fall out of fashion, you no longer see monocles. 

Posted by: obie doobie at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (Q2wni)

38 This thread is so meh!

Posted by: Frodo at October 14, 2012 03:05 PM (Tu8l6)

39 Kept a lion and a bear at the White House as pets.  Shot a fellow debater in the face for laughing.  OK, I made that last one up out of thin air.

Posted by: Up, up with people at October 14, 2012 03:06 PM (kzFo5)

40 "Its going to be a long, cold winter for a lot of people however this turns out." It probably will be. I am holding off putting the heat  on. Piling up blankets.

Posted by: Masshole at October 14, 2012 03:06 PM (A+LLj)

41 Gonna  write  my   BF  into  that  narrative.  One  hundred  years  ago  Teddy  took  a  bullet.  Today  Barry  took  a  vodka  enema. 

Posted by: Reggie Love at October 14, 2012 03:06 PM (OiC7K)

42 I agree about Florida, Romney  wins.

Posted by: Meremortal, polls look good! at October 14, 2012 03:07 PM (1Y+hH)

43 I'll be glad to debate you on 20th century history, I taught it in college.

Ooh, lookit the size of that internet penis!

You should know better than to claim the 1912 election as the pivotal moment for the US entry into WW1.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 14, 2012 03:07 PM (QTHTd)

44 "If he doesn't run we don't have Wilson as president and we don't get in WWI."

Taft probably would've entered WWI also. TR *definitely* would have.

Posted by: Knemon at October 14, 2012 03:07 PM (wmMZ3)

45 Billy Bob, you're right; if he hadn't run, Wilson would not have won and we would have saved a boatload of trouble. I was a member of the Theodore Roosevelt Association and I think he was a great president, but running again was a dick move, if only because it brought in that asshole Wilson and the camel's nose in the tent of big government and the Dems.

Posted by: vivi at October 14, 2012 03:07 PM (OTPxW)

46

The "speak softly and carry a big stick" quote...is from Teddy Roosevelt.

He was referring to America's foreign policy, for those who didn't get that in school.

 

Barky, on the other hand...has a policy of 'speak bullshit and bow a lot'.

Barky's 'stick' is on loan from the foresight and valor, of those who came before him.

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 03:07 PM (l5RhJ)

47 Pretty sure he was the one that NAMED it the White House.

Posted by: Up, up with people at October 14, 2012 03:07 PM (kzFo5)

48 the right seems sure Romney cruises to victory I haven't felt this. Most say -- tight race, will be close, etc. Romney is gaining traction. He is building large crowds, and he's got Obama's bad record on his side.

Posted by: great NFL Sunday, so far at October 14, 2012 03:08 PM (LpQbZ)

49

@  41    With an olive?

Posted by: obie doobie at October 14, 2012 03:08 PM (Q2wni)

50 Schrank should have used the Candygram trick. Shooting TR just makes him mad.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 03:08 PM (oVHYc)

51 Bad day for San Fran.  First of all, the NY Giants are destroying the Niners, and in about an hour, the St. Louis Cardinals will be doing the same to the SF Giants...

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 14, 2012 03:08 PM (0qaTS)

52 How many overflow roadies will Slick Willy siphon off of Bruce....?

Posted by: great NFL Sunday, so far at October 14, 2012 03:09 PM (LpQbZ)

53 He was a bad ass and a bad president.

Posted by: Sorry at October 14, 2012 03:09 PM (V0IkH)

54 3 weeks to go!  We really need to get Obama out. (In case you didn't know.)

FINISH HIM!

Posted by: Another guy who screams FINISH HIM at October 14, 2012 03:09 PM (X/+QT)

55 Teddy NEVER killed a man that didn't deserve it.

Posted by: Up, up with people at October 14, 2012 03:09 PM (kzFo5)

56 He was an interesting narcissist, like Obama. There's nothing interesting about Barky. Anyone competent at anything shares nothing with Barky, who is spectacularly untalented and stupid. The rest of your post involves gigantic implication built upon gigantic implication which is nay, impossible, to do with any shred of credibility in predicting the future (or predicting a different path taken in the past). In fact, it only kills credibility to propose such a chain of dependent events as likely in a hypothetical, let alone the sweeping sorts of generalizations and assumptions that are including within each.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2012 03:09 PM (X3lox)

57 39 Kept a lion and a bear at the White House as pets. Shot a fellow debater in the face for laughing. OK, I made that last one up out of thin air. Posted by: Up, up with people at October 14, 2012 07:06 PM (kzFo5) That is funny!

Posted by: osu at October 14, 2012 03:10 PM (vgMWF)

58 I can picture Teddy Roosevelt waking up from a splash of water, chained to a jail cell door. "Bully for you lad!" (breaking free of chains effortlessly)

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:10 PM (AeC6r)

59 @30

Wilson got us into WWI.  We don't go into WWI  then there would be no Hitler.  There would be no treaty of Versailles, demanding reparations from Germany.  Germany would have basically settled for a truce and the same borders.  No Weimar Republic, caused by the Treaty.  No Hitler. 

Also, we would not have the split up of the German Empire a source of revenue for them.

It is really pretty obvious for those THAT did study history.

Here all night, glad to help you all out.  I usually get paid for this.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:10 PM (wR+pz)

60 Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 14, 2012 07:05 PM (/BwGa)

The political classes would have argued inevitably for an income tax Wilson or no.  It was just too good a way to milk the peons!  Variants on "socialism" are not new and did not all occur with FDR.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at October 14, 2012 03:10 PM (Cnqmv)

61

"This thread is so meh!"

 

Quiet. It could be a game thread.

Posted by: Meremortal, heh at October 14, 2012 03:10 PM (1Y+hH)

62 However like the "which president walks away from a knife fight" thread, I have to say Andrew Jackson was even more badass.
Not a particularly great president, but neither was Teddy. Still, I'd take either over Obama. Teddy wouldn't bow to anyone and Andrew Jackson would horsewhip the Egyptian emissary out of the White House.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:12 PM (AeC6r)

63 James Bradley in "The Imperial Cruise" blamed Teddy for the Japanese aggression that led to WWII.  Rather disappointing after reading his "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Flyboys."

Posted by: BUTCH at October 14, 2012 03:12 PM (nK2Sx)

64 Taft probably would've entered WWI also

I had the notion that Taft was less about the fighting and more about keeping America laissez-faire. He did not interfere much during the most important (to America) international crisis of his day, which was the Mexican Revolution.

Also Taft was involved in the "league to enforce peace" which was an attempt to broker the First World War, not to join any side in it.

So I don't see Taft getting involved in WW1, 1913-16.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 14, 2012 03:12 PM (QTHTd)

65 TR had a will of iron.

Posted by: toby928© at October 14, 2012 03:13 PM (QupBk)

66 @46

Thanks.  I really do like Teddy, but he went off the rail when he ran again.  Read his book on living in Montana.  He almost died of pneumonia as a child.  He almost died on a trip to the Amazon River.  He was a great American.  He should not have run again.   He fucked up a lot of stuff.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:13 PM (wR+pz)

67 WWI started long before we got into it. Whoever sitting in the Oval Office at the time didn't matter a whit.  I believe that Ferdinand fellow getting assassinated set off the tinderbox in Europe, and we didn't show up for the first two years.  So, WWI happened anyways, the treaty of Versaille happened regardless, which was all France and not much Wilson, so the seeds of WWII were planted no matter what.

You're getting paid too much.

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 14, 2012 03:14 PM (0qaTS)

68 I think its a bit unwarranted to say we'd have never gotten involved in WWI unless Wilson was president. Those were different times. I agree we shouldn't have gotten involved, but the truth is, Germany probably would have lost even without us anyway. So the whole "there never would have been a Hitler" thesis is difficult to defend in any case.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:15 PM (AeC6r)

69 Montana or WY?  Shit I am getting old.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:15 PM (wR+pz)

70 .38s are weak reeds and always have been.
Even so it is beyond imagination for any of todays pussy males to soldier on through such an event.

Posted by: Dan Patterson at October 14, 2012 03:15 PM (tWWc3)

71 TR National Park is cool. We got surrounded by a herd of bison. You could go all day up there and never see another human.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 14, 2012 03:15 PM (0CiTm)

72 wow been watching the NY/SF game mostly. thought NE had it in the bag --- switch over, they are down by one. wow

Posted by: great NFL Sunday, so far at October 14, 2012 03:15 PM (LpQbZ)

73 37 Not only did pince-nez and lorgnettes fall out of fashion, you no longer see monocles. --- Inasmuch as i only have one functioning eyeball, i've thought it'd be cool to get a monocle. Now if i can the insurance to cover it...   And to dress up like a pirate for halloween.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 14, 2012 03:16 PM (kzejo)

74 If Romney's tampon hatred turns to legislation, Barky will bleed all over his speeches too.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 03:16 PM (oVHYc)

75 Has Obama ever fired a gun?

There's a range in the basement of the WH.  I wouldn't be surprised if he's packing in his public appearances.  Anti-gun Democrats are frequently pro-gun for themselves.

Clinton was apparently an avid pistol shooter at the WH range according to staffer accounts, although he'd never admit it.

DiFi had a carry permit and a couple of pistols until that was leaked.  Then she gave it up.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:17 PM (U6/KF)

76

OK, if one  of  you can build the  chain up to where Teddy is responsible  for Obama, I'll pay attention.

 

 

Otherwise, the bullet and the bear as a pet at the White House take the day.

Posted by: Meremortal, phffft at October 14, 2012 03:17 PM (1Y+hH)

77 Janet "torch" Reno, had like three AR-15's stolen from her FL home in a burglary.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:18 PM (U6/KF)

78 >>>37 Not only did pince-nez and lorgnettes fall out of fashion, you no longer see monocles. Colonel Klink pretty much ruined that fashion trend for everyone.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 03:18 PM (oVHYc)

79 Taft was going to lose in 1912 regardless of what Roosevelt did.  The Republican machine built by Mark Hannah, used ruthlessly by Taft to override the will of Republican primary voters and get himself re-nominated, would not have been enough to win the general election against the strong Democratic tide of 1912. 

Posted by: TH at October 14, 2012 03:19 PM (nyHxK)

80 It was me guys. I traveled back in time to do it

Posted by: Glenn Beck at October 14, 2012 03:19 PM (8HhF2)

81 Teddy's speeches: stop bullets

Barry's speeches: put criminals to sleep

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at October 14, 2012 03:19 PM (MAhUT)

82 I'm confident that W wore a gun but I don't see Obama going heeled anywhere. I bet he throws both hands up and squeals when he sees a gun like a Debutante spotting a spider.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:19 PM (AeC6r)

83 Romney won't need a gun with his cancer-vison

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 14, 2012 03:20 PM (kzejo)

84 Gun? Obama? No effing way.

Posted by: Meremortal, packing at October 14, 2012 03:21 PM (1Y+hH)

85 @67

Uncle Mikey,

No you read the cliffs notes.  England conned us into entering the war.  WWI basically destroyed the UK.  They ceased being the capital of capitalism, they had to go into debt to us to pay for the war.  NYC took over from London.  Most of their upper class was killed in the war.  They could not continue to support their colonies. They never recovered after 1918.  WWI was the biggest disaster in the 20th century.  700,000 people died at the battle of Verdun That was ONE battle.  Repeat over and over. 

http://tinyurl.com/aveuf

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:22 PM (wR+pz)

86 TR -- Takes a bullet, keeps on speaking for 80 minutes
 
TFG -- Takes away everyone's forks before speaking

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 14, 2012 03:22 PM (ccXZP)

87 I can't see Obama knowing how to even pick up a gun.  Michelle, maybe.  Malia, yeah I can see that too.  Barry?  He'd wee wee himself.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 03:22 PM (P6QsQ)

88 Obama.  Our first mommy president.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 03:23 PM (P6QsQ)

89 TR -- Takes a bullet, keeps on speaking for 80 minutes TFG -- Takes away everyone's forks before speaking
heh

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:23 PM (AeC6r)

90

Say what you will about Teddy R...he set aside large tracts of land, that we now know as National Parks.

Which was a good thing.

 

Liberals like to denigrate hunters.

But hunters were the first conservationists, who actually did something about preserving our wild areas....rather than just talk about it. 

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 03:23 PM (l5RhJ)

91 what about OHIO

Posted by: Nervous breakdown at October 14, 2012 03:23 PM (8HhF2)

92

Kill a deer and field dress it, and eat it

One play of high school football

BB gun fight

Copenhagen

Posted by: Things Obama Would Never Do at October 14, 2012 03:24 PM (0CiTm)

93 Here's a question: has anyone taken a shot at a President who WASN'T a leftist or a Democrat? The only one I can think of is Hinckley.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 14, 2012 03:26 PM (sB3/i)

94 Not looking good for the Yankees.



I feel badly about that.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 03:26 PM (P6QsQ)

95 95 Here's a question: has anyone taken a shot at a President who WASN'T a leftist or a Democrat? Reagan.

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2012 03:27 PM (5H6zj)

96 Ewwwww #74!!!!

Posted by: Jmel at October 14, 2012 03:27 PM (c+D8V)

97 Ooops, I see what you did there. Booth then.

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2012 03:27 PM (5H6zj)

98 Lincoln took a bullet.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:27 PM (U6/KF)

99 Obama. Our first mommy president.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 07:23 PM (P6QsQ)

 

----         -----        -- ---      ---- -- -   - - -  -   - -    -   --   -  - -   - - - - - - -  - - - -  - -

 

That's tougher on mommies than I could ever be.     d;^)>

 

Obama lacks courage, and covers that with false bravado.

Posted by: Meremortal, packing at October 14, 2012 03:27 PM (1Y+hH)

100 TR was a progressive and a destroyer. We are still dealing with his ruinous policies even today.

Posted by: dri at October 14, 2012 03:27 PM (dHKAh)

101 Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 07:23 PM (l5RhJ)


Not so sure that having the feral government able to declare large amounts of land off limits as National Parks and under unaccountable control of that same government is/was a good thing.  It set the stage for a LOT of really bad things and increased the power of the fed govt immensely.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at October 14, 2012 03:27 PM (Cnqmv)

102 >>>95 Here's a question: has anyone taken a shot at a President who WASN'T a leftist or a Democrat? The only one I can think of is Hinckley. Lee Harvey Oswald was a Tea Partier. Ask any Libtard.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 03:28 PM (oVHYc)

103 Jim Bennett to John O'Sullivan over at the NRO The Corner: John, let me suggest that the criteria for victory are changing. The debate no longer ends when the debaters walk off stage. And now it no longer ends when the TV spinners have, like cuckoos, laid their eggs and flown away. There is now the long, long reverberation in social media, where the basic debate footage serves as raw material for mash-ups and parodies and treatments for the rest of the election cycle and beyond. And BidenÂ’s performance, which won him some tactical advantage in the debate, has set him up as the target for rich satire and a way that RyanÂ’s conventional performance didnÂ’t and cannot do. His performance is comic gold, and although within hard-core Dem/left circles he will be celebrated as the warrior, everywhere else, and especially for basically apolitical young YouTube viewers, he will be the jackass supreme. I suspect that by Election Day, the various parodic videos will have had a larger viewership than the debate itself. By this criterion, the tactic was a massive miscalculation. I like it.

Posted by: great NFL Sunday, so far at October 14, 2012 03:28 PM (LpQbZ)

104 Al Gore, badass, once walked up to George Bush in a debate and stood there menacingly. Everyone including Bush laughed. 

Posted by: Up, up with people at October 14, 2012 03:28 PM (kzFo5)

105 Its hard to work out the politics of assassins, but most of them seem pretty left wing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:29 PM (AeC6r)

106 That's tougher on mommies than I could ever be.

-----------

Yeah, I withdraw that comment.  I didn't think it through before posting.

Revised version:  Obama - our first high school sophomore girl president.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 03:29 PM (P6QsQ)

107 Y-not: I already said Hinckley. And even he's debatable: Hinckley's family were hardcore Republicans but I've never seen anything about John Hinckley's personal politics.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 14, 2012 03:30 PM (sB3/i)

108 I think Obama is paranoid about his personal safety.  He breezes in, breezes out and makes sure all his interaction with the public is in tightly controlled situations. 

If anyone takes a shot at him, it would be some disgruntled unemployed Democrat.  Republicans have enough economic sense to know he ain't worth spending any money for a bullet on.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:30 PM (U6/KF)

109 Lee Harvey Oswald was a Tea Partier. Ask any Libtard.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 07:28 PM (oVHYc)


His living in Moscow and Cuba didn't mean he was a communist.

He was a poor lonely boy who needed love.


Posted by: MSM Spin doctors at October 14, 2012 03:32 PM (wR+pz)

110 I do love the national parks but I'm not sure they are such a great idea in terms of government power. Its tough to justify from the constitution too, although not impossible.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:32 PM (AeC6r)

111 The Soviets were big on nurturing.  Very big.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:33 PM (U6/KF)

112

Yeah, I withdraw that comment. I didn't think it through before posting.

Revised version: Obama - our first high school sophomore girl president.

 

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 07:29 PM (P6QsQ)

Ha!

I knew, mama! It's a damn slippery slope that starts with mom jeans.

 

Nice 'seeing' you.

Posted by: Meremortal, packing at October 14, 2012 03:33 PM (1Y+hH)

113 If anyone takes a shot at him, it would be some disgruntled unemployed Democrat. Republicans have enough economic sense to know he ain't worth spending any money for a bullet on.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 07:30 PM (U6/KF)


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Wasn't there a quote out there by Michelle something to the effect that Barack is in danger when he goes to the gas station  just by virtue of being black?

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 03:34 PM (P6QsQ)

114 Amazing, looking back at how many presidential assassins or would-be assassins were Communists or Socialists. There is something inherently unhinged about Leftist politics....

Posted by: Sam Adams at October 14, 2012 03:34 PM (efvCb)

115 Tom Brady: 4 and out on the last drive. Seahawk "D" rises to the occasion.

Posted by: Jim Flimsey at October 14, 2012 03:34 PM (T9V22)

116 >>>95 Here's a question: has anyone taken a shot at a President who WASN'T a leftist or a Democrat? Vladimir Arutyunian Sara Jane Moore Squeaky Fromme

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 14, 2012 03:34 PM (AzDzi)

117 I'll be glad to debate you on 20th century history, I taught it in college. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 07:05 PM (wR+pz) Read James Thurber's short story, 'If Grant Had Been Drinking At Appomattox', history professor, because Thurber was evidently as tired of hearing 'what if' stories as I am. You're not talking about debating history, which encompasses events that did happen. You're talking about arguing possible outcomes if certain variables are changed. One is a legitimate academic exercise for historians. The other is a bullshit session over weed and pizza.

Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2012 03:34 PM (ptcFO)

118 Some con job.  The British handed to Wilson in the White House the Zimmermann Telegram where the German Foreign Minister sends an encrypted cable to the German embassy in Mexico City that promises Mexico all the territory in the US Southwest if they support Germany in the war.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 03:35 PM (iJ34D)

119 you know if Romney wins there probably won't be any crazed lefties who want to assassinate him, cuz they think Paul Ryan is the most extremey extremist in the history of extremism

Posted by: JParker at October 14, 2012 03:35 PM (8HhF2)

120 Wasn't there a quote out there by Michelle something to the effect that Barack is in danger when he goes to the gas station just by virtue of being black?
Yeah but she left off "...by other black guys." Statistically speaking, of course.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:35 PM (AeC6r)

121 Way late, but first chance I've had to get online.  I watched that space jump just before rushing off to the airport.  The hell of it was when the guy stood on the edge of that platform and just. stepped. off.

In a second he had wooshed out of sight.

I yelled "Holy Fuck!"

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2012 03:35 PM (+hBHL)

122 Obama - our first high school sophomore girl president.  Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 07:29 PM (P6QsQ)

Now, Mama Winger, I love you, truly I do, but, obama is no girl.  He is the over the top know it all gay character (whose life and career are both a mess) flouncing around this or that sitcom to make it diverse and relevant.  He is effeminate to the max, but, not, feminine.  All the 'ettes here are, you included, are more of a woman than he will ever be a man.

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 03:36 PM (kXoT0)

123 >>Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2012 07:34 PM (ptcFO) *golf clap*

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2012 03:36 PM (5H6zj)

124 Squeaky Fromm was Manson family.  So just label her freak and move on.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 03:37 PM (iJ34D)

125 I just saw on Fox that the Dem strategy for Tuesday is for Obama to be "aggressive and passionate." Gee, and here I recall being told that his "superior temperament" and "Spock-like" coolness were big pluses for him. Translation: he's going to act like a petulant dick.

Posted by: Donna V. at October 14, 2012 03:37 PM (dcIHW)

126 I thought Fromme was a lefty. Maybe she was just generic dingbat.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:37 PM (AeC6r)

127 Wasn't there a quote out there by Michelle something to the effect that Barack is in danger when he goes to the gas station just by virtue of being black? Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 07:34 PM (P6QsQ) Barky would certainly be in serious danger just standing at a gas station if his drunk driving, accident-prone, illegal alien uncle were driving by. Luckily, Aunt zetuni and Uncle omar are protected from any government goons who might be silly enough to try enforce even one of America's laws on them. I think that Uncle Omar should be Barky's driver. If they're going to break all laws to keep the piece of shit alien here, let him earn his keep.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2012 03:38 PM (X3lox)

128 RCP is holding out on coloring NC red.  They don't want to give Romney the lead in EVs in their count.

That is a huge psychological hurdle that they don't want to cross until the last possible moment.

If Obama doesn't shift momentum in this debate, they will have to take NC out of the tossups.  Likely FL too, soon.

Personally, I can't wait for Obama to give up on Florida.  I want his commercials off my TV.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2012 03:38 PM (+hBHL)

129 "...they think Paul Ryan is the most extremey extremist in the history of extremism"

Posted by: JParker at October 14, 2012 07:35 PM (8HhF2)

 

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We'll see Ryan in a German WWII helmet before this is over, bank on it.

Posted by: Meremortal, packing at October 14, 2012 03:38 PM (1Y+hH)

130

103...Not so sure that having the feral government able to declare large amounts of land off limits as National Parks and under unaccountable control of that same government is/was a good thing. It set the stage for a LOT of really bad things and increased the power of the fed govt immensely.

 

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I know, Hrothgar....and I agree with you.

But I doubt that Teddy envisioned how badly things would turn out, from the precedents that he set forth.

He was naive in that way...as elitists usually are.

 

But the flip side is, it's nice to see those areas like Yellowstone, without the commercial development that would've altered them forever.

 

I'm all for commerce and enterprise, mind you.

But there is something to be said, for preserving the grandeur of beautiful places.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 03:39 PM (l5RhJ)

131 The other is a bullshit session over weed and pizza.

Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2012 07:34 PM (ptcFO)


You say that like it's a bad thing. ha ha.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:39 PM (wR+pz)

132 You see, Obama has to be tough, but he's at a disadvantage cuz he can't come off as the angry black man blah blah blah blah....

Posted by: Toure and Michael Eric Dyson repeating for the 1248051st time at October 14, 2012 03:39 PM (8HhF2)

133 Gotta hold the house, or Pelosi will be #3 in line.  If that happened, I could see some crazed moonbats going for a two-fer.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:39 PM (U6/KF)

134 Alexthechick, re Pee Wee's death scene.  LOL  I would imagine TFG to try and steal a scene even in death.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 03:40 PM (iJ34D)

135 Squeaky Fromm was Manson family. So just label her freak and move on.

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Bernardine  Dohrn was Manson Family Fan Club.  So just label her friend of Obama and tremble.



"Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach." -- Bernardine Dohrn on the Tate/LaBianca murders, 1969.



Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 03:40 PM (P6QsQ)

136

An honest days labor.

 

Tell the truth about the death of the ambassador to Lybia.

Posted by: More Things Obama Would Never Do at October 14, 2012 03:40 PM (B/3gr)

137 Speaking of nuts, don't forget the one that killed Garfield.  He had been committed and escaped.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:41 PM (wR+pz)

138 Today in History. Oct 14, 2012 - first time the sound barrier is broken in a free fall parachute jump from space. Oct 14, 1962 - The Cuban Missile Crisis begins. http://bit.ly/T3gztY Oct 14, 1947 - First time the sound barrier is broken by a pilot in an airplane. http://bit.ly/W0B9M7 I lived through them all.

Posted by: 2soonold2latesmart at October 14, 2012 03:41 PM (YFAMg)

139 Helluva man.

Posted by: Woodrow Augustus McCrae-Call at October 14, 2012 03:42 PM (pPYv9)

140 A 1912 .38 probably had a velocity of about 700 fps tops and with all of that other stuff it's not surprising it didn't penetrate to any vitals. BTW -- if you're in the pen you know shit's getting real when all of the glossy magazines disappear.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 03:42 PM (tOkJB)

141 >>>95 Here's a question: has anyone taken a shot at a President who WASN'T a leftist or a Democrat? The question is easily misread. Is "who WASN'T a leftist or a Democrat" referring to "a President" or "anyone"? 118 was referring to attempted assassinations on Republican presidents.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 14, 2012 03:42 PM (AzDzi)

142 Most would be US assassins targeting politicians bring the crazy more so than the politics.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:42 PM (U6/KF)

143 In a second he had wooshed out of sight.

I yelled "Holy Fuck!"

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 14, 2012 07:35 PM (+hBHL)


Wow. I did the EXACT same thing.  Wife thought I was having a heart attack and was not amused. 

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:43 PM (wR+pz)

144

"Al Gore, badass"

 

Never thought I'd see Al Gore  called that  even  if sarcastically.  

Posted by: Mo the Girl at October 14, 2012 03:43 PM (LPuor)

145 Revised version: Obama - our first high school sophomore girl president.


Yup.  As I've said, there are 13 yo girls who've just gotten their first period who are more emotionally stable and mature than TFG. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 03:43 PM (Gk3SS)

146 The original TOTUS was bullet proof

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at October 14, 2012 03:43 PM (PNDql)

147 You pretty much have to be a lunatic to try to shoot the president. Its not that it would be that hard, but most people have a greater sense of self preservation.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:44 PM (AeC6r)

148 Fromme tried to assassinate President Ford in 1975.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 14, 2012 03:44 PM (AzDzi)

149 So, who was Roosevelt's VP,  hmm?

Posted by: Conspiracy Theorist at October 14, 2012 03:44 PM (BVkEs)

150 Yes, Igore screwed up the debate, but, he has made over $38,000,000 off his green energy crapitola and did fairly well off the green jobs stimulus.  All while having a carbon footprint larger than the entire Royal Family in England, Scotland, and Wales.

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 03:45 PM (kXoT0)

151 I'll grant you Vladimir Arutyunian -- he sounds like a disgruntled ethnic (though given that this took place in Georgia he could seriously be an ex-commie). But Sara Jane Moore was a leftie who thought Ford being President was part of some "war on the left" masterminded by Nixon. And Squeaky and the Manson family were radicals who wanted to start a race war and overthrow society -- hardly conservative by any definition.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 14, 2012 03:45 PM (sB3/i)

152 151 So, who was Roosevelt's VP, hmm?

Posted by: Conspiracy Theorist at October 14, 2012 07:44 PM (BVkEs)


Which Roosevelt, which time? 

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:45 PM (wR+pz)

153 146
"Al Gore, badass  FAT ASS"

Never thought I'd see Al Gore called that even if sarcastically.

FIFY

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:46 PM (wR+pz)

154 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 03:47 PM (6o4Fb)

155 Which Roosevelt, which time?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 07:45 PM (wR+pz)

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Hmm, Teddy?

Posted by: Conspiracy Theorist at October 14, 2012 03:47 PM (BVkEs)

156 I think there were probably a few guys during WWII that busted the sound barrier in P-38's in a dive...but they never lived to talk about it.  The Hulk yanking on the P-38's stick when it was trans sonic couldn't pull it out of a dive.

After a number of notable crashes in dives that weren't pulled out of, they installed speed brakes on the later models.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:47 PM (U6/KF)

157 there are 13 yo girls who've just gotten their first period who are more emotionally stable and mature than TFG.

Thank G-d that, if Obama is ever incapacitated, there's a stable and mature guy in the number two spot

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 14, 2012 03:48 PM (QTHTd)

158 I think there were probably a few guys during WWII that busted the sound barrier in P-38's in a dive...but they never lived to talk about it.
Yeah the lightning was crazy fast, beautiful aircraft too. But if they could get the altitude, it probably could hit mach as it tore to pieces and the pilot bent the stick like a pretzel trying to pull out.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 03:49 PM (AeC6r)

159

144 Most would be US assassins targeting politicians bring the crazy more so than the politics.

 

I think so too, PurpAv.

That's usually the common denominator...crazy.

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 03:49 PM (l5RhJ)

160 Wasn't there a quote out there by Michelle something to the effect that Barack is in danger when he goes to the gas station just by virtue of being black?

Well, you don't pay your dealer, shit happens.

Posted by: The Ch at October 14, 2012 03:49 PM (wR+pz)

161 Dana Loesch gets the TSA treatment once again:
 
http://tinyurl.com/8hekb5a (twitchy link)
 
They won't even follow their own rules. This is horseshit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 14, 2012 03:49 PM (ccXZP)

162 Its not that it would be that hard, but most people have a greater sense of self preservation.

Anybody can kill anybody...IF they're willing to die in the process. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 03:49 PM (U6/KF)

163 Obama shot Osama in Reno, just to watch him die.

Posted by: Beto at October 14, 2012 03:49 PM (BAnPT)

164 Al Gore is a parasitic rent seeker who became rich by knowing the right people in government, with no particular competence. He is the paradigm of very thing that is wrong with our Crony Capitalism regime.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 03:50 PM (oVHYc)

165 150 Fromme tried to assassinate President Ford in 1975.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 14, 2012 07:44 PM (AzDzi)

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I did it for Charlie, okay!!!

Posted by: Squeaky at October 14, 2012 03:50 PM (BVkEs)

166 This will leave a mark ...

BOB SCHIEFFER: What do you think the reason for all this was when you come down to it? Was it simply incompetence?

REPRESENTATIVE DARRELL ISSA: This is not very Republican, if you will, but when President George W. Bush went aboard an aircraft carrier and said, "mission accomplished" I listened rightfully so to people saying, look, but there's still problems, and they're still dying, and quite frankly, things got worse in many ways after that famous statement.

BOB SCHIEFFER: Mm-Hm.

REPRESENTATIVE DARRELL ISSA: We're going through a mission accomplished moment. Eleven years after September 11th, Americans were attacked on September 11th by terrorists who preplanned to kill Americans. That happened and we can't be in denial. Particularly, when there are-- there are compounds all over the Middle East that need to be legitimately protected at a level that security professionals ask for it.

Posted by: Judas Priest at October 14, 2012 03:51 PM (e8kgV)

167 Next are two WWII movies on TCM - The Dirty Dozen and Five Graves to Cairo.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 03:51 PM (iJ34D)

168 Roosevelt overcame childhood asthma, had a ranch out west, was Governor of NY, got the Nobel Peace Prize - and earned it - for negotiating the end of the Russo-Japanese war. 
He built the U.S. Navy (Navy Day is observed on his birthday - he launched the Great White Fleet on a global tour) and founded Naval Aviation (he was one of the first Americans to ride on a plane...in 1910 when it was still chancey).
 
He was a naturalist who  contributed to the collections of the American Museum of Natural History, basically created the National Parks system by setting aside 150 million acres of forests and explored a previously unexplored river of the Amazon, which Brazil named Rio Roosevelt.

He was invited to deliver the Romanes Lecture at Oxford (like Gladstone and Huxley before him) , was the president of the American Historical Association and elected a member of the American Academy of Arts and Letters...he wrote 28 books.  He was the first president to write a book in office. It was "The Deer Family."  As a big game hunter, he shot a charging rhino from 13 paces away.
When they made hm, they broke the mold.

Posted by: vivi at October 14, 2012 03:52 PM (OTPxW)

169 @157

Nice trick question.  After McKinney was killed he did not have a VP, then when he was elected, Charles Fairbanks.


http://tinyurl.com/927mv

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:53 PM (wR+pz)

170 Teddy gives a speech with a bullet in him.Baseball teams now shut players down because they MIGHT get hurt(ahem Washington Nationals ahem).

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 03:54 PM (6o4Fb)

171 FYI, Irish line dancing is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever. I have it on good authority the brits invaded ireland simply to stop the practice. indeed even kevin bacon is against the line dance

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2012 03:54 PM (Z9EHQ)

172

Speaking of assassins...and assassinations...

 

Anyone else been watching that show 'Copper' on BBCAmerica?

They've been leading up to the Lincoln assassination.

 

Tonight's episode will apparently feature the three Boothe brothers, being accepted into the home of one of the regular characters...a wealthy NYer, who has no love for Lincoln.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 03:55 PM (l5RhJ)

173 Issa is a wuss

Posted by: grease monkey at October 14, 2012 03:55 PM (VSWPU)

174 174 NYC was basically the northern capital of the Confederacy.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 03:56 PM (6o4Fb)

175 170 I'm not convinced that idolizing Presidents for their "personal accomplishments" (or anything else) is a good idea. He's a guy you hire to do a job. He either does it sort of competently, or he doesn't. Anyways, I'm not really interested in talking about any Roosevelt.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 03:56 PM (QEfsO)

176 indeed even kevin bacon is against the line dance  Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2012 07:54 PM (Z9EHQ)

I refuse to line dance.  When my girlfriends and I go out dancing, I always sit them out and tell everyone, "If I wanted to go to an aerobics class, I would've gone to one."  Invariably, the biggest gals get out there and it always reminds me of the dancing hippos in Fantasia!

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 03:57 PM (kXoT0)

177 REPRESENTATIVE DARRELL ISSA: This is not very Republican, if you will, but when President George W. Bush went aboard an aircraft carrier and said, "mission accomplished" I listened rightfully so to people saying, look, but there's still problems, and they're still dying, and quite frankly, things got worse in many ways after that famous statement. I am so sick of this shit. The mission to take Iraq was accomplished. No doubt about that. In record time and without many problems. The later parts of occupying and building Iraq (instead of the rational idea of just taking the oil fields and letting the Iraqis run around in the desert stabbing each other in the butt as arabs are wont to do) were a totally different mission. Issa and othes who cede this idiot point about "mission accomplished" really tick me off to no end. A mission is not a war, FFS.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2012 03:57 PM (X3lox)

178 175 Compared to? Bonny Boner?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 03:57 PM (QEfsO)

179 re: P-38s.  The problem was diving from high altitude in pursuit of enemy aircraft.  It was termed a compressibility dive.  P-47s also suffered it.  Had to ride the coffin down until the air was thick enough for the pilot to try and wrench the plane out of the dive.  Most times it never happened.  IIRC P-38Js and P-38Ls had this small speed flat on the underside of each wing, it would break up the airflow enough for the controls to be effective when deployed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 03:58 PM (iJ34D)

180 @177

Well, I agree, but if we are going to talk about one, it will be Teddy. 

Fuck FDR.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:58 PM (wR+pz)

181 Jeebus vivi.  You make it sound like a prezident has to be accomplished and sh*t.  Betcha ole Teddy never was a community organizer in the rough streets of Chicago.  Ha!

Posted by: Barky Ogabe at October 14, 2012 03:58 PM (B/3gr)

182 179 Why not? We've ceded far more important points, and no one seems to care.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 03:59 PM (QEfsO)

183 Thread seems to be wondering.

We need some pointed elbows. 

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 03:59 PM (wR+pz)

184 Fuck FDR.   Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 07:58 PM (wR+pz)

And his ugly, interfering wife too.  She set the stage for this co-Presidency nonsense.

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 03:59 PM (kXoT0)

185 Boner is a wuss too

Posted by: grease monkey at October 14, 2012 04:00 PM (VSWPU)

186

166 Al Gore is a parasitic rent seeker who became rich by knowing the right people in government, with no particular competence. He is the paradigm of very thing that is wrong with our Crony Capitalism Socialism regime.

 

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FIFM. ....Now I can agree with this.

Taking money from the public purse and giving it to political cronies...has nothing to do with capitalism.

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 04:00 PM (l5RhJ)

187 P-38's had the worst problems with compressibility.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:00 PM (6o4Fb)

188 New Gravis Marketing poll of CO has Obama +2.

Posted by: RomneylosesOhio at October 14, 2012 07:59 PM (t8tck)


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If you would like to join the conversation that we are having and offer any thoughts regarding Teddy Roosevelt, that would be great.  If you have just come around to put your OCD on display, I'll pass.



Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 04:00 PM (P6QsQ)

189 188 No doubt about that.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:01 PM (QEfsO)

190

I remember reading at the time of the Ford attempt that the bullet hit the pavement in front of Ford, bounced up, hit him in the crotch and did not penetrate.

 

So, Ford got shot and the bullet bounced off his balls. Not  bad. 

Posted by: Meremortal, packing at October 14, 2012 04:01 PM (1Y+hH)

191 >>>173 FYI, Irish line dancing is quite possibly the stupidest thing ever. I have it on good authority the brits invaded ireland simply to stop the practice. My wife got me into swing dancing a few years ago and I've really gotten hooked. But I won't stoop to line dancing.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 04:01 PM (oVHYc)

192 Story about the Great White Fleet was Teddy sent it on its way and then told Congress to pay for them to get back.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 04:02 PM (iJ34D)

193 191 Look, no offense, but all this "mental health issues" hate is rather off-putting, not to mention a whole bunch of other things. RLO's deficiencies probably have more to do with a low IQ anyways.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:03 PM (QEfsO)

194 195 It was done in stages so as not to alarm isolationists in congress or foreign powers(Japan).It was a demonstration of strategic mobility(power projection).

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:04 PM (6o4Fb)

195 Wolf turd alert.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:04 PM (aHR5E)

196 Heh, Gerg accidentally switched socks there.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:05 PM (aHR5E)

197 Look, no offense, but all this "mental health issues" hate is rather off-putting

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Mental health issues hate?  I have no idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 04:05 PM (P6QsQ)

198 33Has Obama ever fired a gun?

Posted by: Masshole

 

Haven't you heard? He lead Seal Team 6 and capped OBL!

Posted by: Gmac at October 14, 2012 04:05 PM (IanLz)

199 Gerg is a wuss too.

Posted by: grease monkey at October 14, 2012 04:06 PM (VSWPU)

200 Haven't you heard? He lead Seal Team 6 and capped OBL! --- I heard he killed OBL in hand to hand combat.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:07 PM (aHR5E)

201 201 Accusing people of mental health issues as a way of insulting or discrediting them, and the belief that this is somehow enlightened.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:07 PM (QEfsO)

202

throw a baseball 90 feet

sing along with the National Anthem

eat wings and drink cheap beer

scam on a hot chick

 

Posted by: Things Obama Would Never Do at October 14, 2012 04:07 PM (0CiTm)

203 158 I think there were probably a few guys during WWII that busted the sound barrier in P-38's in a dive...but they never lived to talk about it. The Hulk yanking on the P-38's stick when it was trans sonic couldn't pull it out of a dive. After a number of notable crashes in dives that weren't pulled out of, they installed speed brakes on the later models. Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 07:47 PM (U6/KF) Compressibility, reversed controls -- all the stuff that plagued the development of the first X-planes prevented P-38 pilots from pulling out of a supersonic dive. They tried mass balances and other stuff on the elevator to no avail. In many ways it was a great plane but it had so many glitches Lockheed had tons of field engineers always trying to figure out its many problems and get them corrected. One model only had a dynamo on the right engine so if that failed you had to run on battery power until you had to bail out or crash land. I read a good personal account of a pilot who became a POW because of it. There are also unsupported claims of P-47s and P-51s breaking the sound barrier. Their air speed indicators, however, just weren't capable of accurately measuring those speeds.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 04:07 PM (tOkJB)

204 I heard he killed OBL in hand to hand combat.

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OBL couldn't put up much of a fight after Romney zapped him with his cancer rays.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 04:08 PM (P6QsQ)

205 Greg - This gem is just for you. PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls Our new Florida poll finds a razor tight race- Mitt Romney leads 49-48, a 5 point improvement for him compared to 3 weeks ago If PPP is putting Romney up 1 in FL then its probably closer to 5. Have a nice night.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2012 04:08 PM (TMB3S)

206 Obama has taken a lot of bullets too...mostly Reggie's.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 04:09 PM (U6/KF)

207 Ugh, someone shoot the cat yowling the national anthem for game one of the National League championship. 

Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2012 04:09 PM (mjR67)

208 207 Early production F-86's definately broke the sound barrier before Yeager(albeit in shallow dives).Swept wings overcame compressibility.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:09 PM (6o4Fb)

209 Holy crap.  I was watching Costas' interview with JJ Watt and he just jumped onto a 55 inch tall stack of cracks from a dead stand.  I am only 60 inches tall.  Holy crap.   That was unreal. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 04:09 PM (Gk3SS)

210 What's a stack of cracks?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:10 PM (aHR5E)

211 Al Gore is a parasitic rent seeker who became rich by knowing the right people in government, with no particular competence. He is the paradigm of very thing that is wrong with our Crony Capitalism regime.
Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 07:50 PM

Gore came through this part of Texas seeking investors in this carbon trading and public funds for bogus companies in either 2005 or 2006
The press wasn't allowed. This "Green" is a total scam

Posted by: Beto at October 14, 2012 04:10 PM (BAnPT)

212 P-38's performed poorly in the cold and damp European theater.They did very well indeed in the Pacific.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:11 PM (6o4Fb)

213 cracks = crates


brb need moar val u rite

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 04:12 PM (Gk3SS)

214 Accusing people of mental health issues as a way of insulting or discrediting them, and the belief that this is somehow enlightened.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 08:07 PM (QEfsO)


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I've got more people in my family with OCD than I can comfortably seat at Thanksgiving dinner.    There's no hate here.  Pointing out obsessive behavior doesn't make a person a hater.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 04:12 PM (P6QsQ)

215 If Romney is up 1 in FL, he's losing in VA and OH and CO and IA and NV and NH.

You'll be back to wave your Intrade winnings in everyone's face, right?  I'm looking forward to that.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 14, 2012 04:12 PM (U6/KF)

216 Obama is up by googolplex in the poll I just took of the voices in my head. Toast, do you hear? TOAST!

Posted by: Gerg at October 14, 2012 04:13 PM (aHR5E)

217 Holy crap. I was watching Costas' interview with JJ Watt and he just jumped onto a 55 inch tall stack of cracks from a dead stand.   Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 08:09 PM (Gk3SS)


It was surreal!

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 04:13 PM (kXoT0)

218 >>If Romney is up 1 in FL, he's losing in VA and OH and CO and IA and NV and NH. Whatever helps you sleep. You should be more like that other liberal goof, Sullivan, and just admit defeat as he did tonight. It would go easier on you in the long run.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2012 04:14 PM (TMB3S)

219 I have a sad and pathetic life. I get my jollys by coming here and cherry picking polls to troll with. I have no friends, my family doesn't like me and this is all I have. Please pray for me.

Posted by: Greg at October 14, 2012 04:14 PM (eQgOb)

220 216 "Green" allows Leftists to justify and implement their Red policies, while making some "green" for themselves and claiming that they are the paragons of morality. I wonder why they like it...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:14 PM (QEfsO)

221 Margin of error? Partisan breakdown? Oversampling? What do these words mean? Ah, who cares anyway? COCK! Er, I mean, TOAST!

Posted by: Gerg at October 14, 2012 04:15 PM (aHR5E)

222

Posted by: mama winger  

 

That's a cloaked troll you are talking to,  mama,  not  worth  engaging.

Posted by: Meremortal, packing at October 14, 2012 04:15 PM (1Y+hH)

223 Pointing out obsessive behavior doesn't make a person a hater.  Posted by: mama winger
Exactly, correct, only in my family it is the bi-polar folks.

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 04:16 PM (kXoT0)

224 Walking Dead in :45.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 14, 2012 04:16 PM (0CiTm)

225 1912 Theodore Roosevelt takes a bullet while campaigning for the Presidency but continues to give an 80 min speech...coherently. 2012 Barack Obama can't give a coherent speech without a Teleprompter and no bullet in sight.

Posted by: boballab at October 14, 2012 04:16 PM (ebXTQ)

226 mama you hit too close to home with the mentally ill troll

Posted by: phoenixgirl what did huma abedin know? team dagny at October 14, 2012 04:16 PM (Ho2rs)

227 Pointing out obsessive behavior doesn't make a person a hater. --- Except when it comes to Gerg.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:17 PM (aHR5E)

228 219 Look, I'm not really interested in getting into this with any specific person. It was a point that needed to be made. I made it.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:17 PM (QEfsO)

229 Steevy P-38s continued to be used in the ETO until the end of hostilities.  Though there was an issue of superchargers exploding which Walter J. Boyne in one book postulated was because of the gasoline in the ETO that caused it.  And in the Pacific the P-38 was going to be mediocre until a certain civilian tech-rep named Charles Lindburg helped figure out the throttle and prop settings for extended range.  There are even stories of Lindburg flying with Bong and McGuire's unit and scoring aerial victories, as a civilian.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 04:18 PM (iJ34D)

230 My buddy Ted wanted Obamnacare you know.

Posted by: b+rry , The Giver at October 14, 2012 04:18 PM (m/4WR)

231 228 You're a genius.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:18 PM (QEfsO)

232 Well.. this is as good a time as any to tell ya'll.. I finally bought a gun today!!

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 14, 2012 04:18 PM (1hNQS)

233 232 You're a genius too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:19 PM (QEfsO)

234 My wife got me into swing dancing a few years ago and I've really gotten hooked. But I won't stoop to line dancing.

Swing dancing is great.  Argentine tango is fun, especially as it's a more mature crowd, so the drama is different.  The venues tend to be a little more on the respectable side.  Plus it gives the women an excuse to spend ungodly amounts of money on clothing.

Contra dancing is kind of like line dancing crossed with square dancing, but it's very fun and a very nice crowd.  Just be careful because it's infested with libs, so you get a real eclectic mix.

Posted by: Alex at October 14, 2012 04:19 PM (HwgHt)

235 Walking Dead in :45.


Tell me if Daryl crossbows Rick in the face.  Otherwise, don't care.


You know the hilarious thing?  In the books, I actually like Rick. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 04:20 PM (Gk3SS)

236 Contra dancing is kind of like line dancing crossed with square dancing --- You just have to watch out for Sandanistas.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:20 PM (aHR5E)

237 At least he didn't take an arrow to the head.

Posted by: Harold King of the Anglo-Saxons at October 14, 2012 04:20 PM (YTGKQ)

238 Well.. this is as good a time as any to tell ya'll.. I finally bought a gun today!!  Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 14, 2012 08:18 PM (1hNQS)

Dang, girl, you go.

Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 04:20 PM (kXoT0)

239 Just remember a favorite tactic in the declining days of the Soviet Union was to label dissenters mentally ill, put them forcibly into a hospital, fill them with drugs, and reduce them to harmless babbling idiots.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 04:20 PM (iJ34D)

240 235 Yes in the ETO they were primarily fighter-bombers though(some photo recon as well).

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:20 PM (6o4Fb)

241 Well.. this is as good a time as any to tell ya'll.. I finally bought a gun today!!


What did you get?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 04:21 PM (Gk3SS)

242 Just remember a favorite tactic in the declining days of the Soviet Union was to label dissenters mentally ill, put them forcibly into a hospital, fill them with drugs, and reduce them to harmless babbling idiots. --- So Gerg's Russian?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:21 PM (aHR5E)

243

Go Packers!

 

  *even though you already screwed the whole season up*

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin who can't help himself at October 14, 2012 04:21 PM (B/3gr)

244 246 Yep. "Only someone who is mentally ill would ever oppose Socialism" the rationale went. So it was all very rational...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:21 PM (QEfsO)

245 Will.. I have been talking about for 2 years.  Times are uncertain and just thought I am not gonna put it off any longer.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 14, 2012 04:22 PM (1hNQS)

246 Or an arrow to the knee - now a very overused Skyrim meme.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 04:22 PM (iJ34D)

247 I despise Walking Dead.The more the critics fellate a show the more I  hate it.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:22 PM (6o4Fb)

248 MUMR -

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.  There was no intention to do so.

Our extended family is a walking DSM-IV.  With sub-titles.  And sequels.  We are comfortable with it.  It's not a big deal.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 04:23 PM (P6QsQ)

249 Faith Hill: O-bot. A HOT O-bot, but an O-bot nonetheless.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 14, 2012 04:23 PM (0CiTm)

250 Faith Hill. That is all.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2012 04:23 PM (jucos)

251 http://tinyurl.com/92mtmo9 Summary Results Party Percent of total Other 39.9% Republican 31.8% Democrat 28.2% Race White 80.1% Hispanic 10.0% Other 9.9% Religious affiliation Protestant 42.5% Not affiliated 31.2% Catholic 20.3% Jewish 3.9% Muslim 2.1% Age 18-29 17.0% 30-49 39.9% 50-64 29.1% 65+ 14.0% Sex Men 49.5% Women 50.5% President Obama 48.4% Romney 46.0% Other 5.6% Approve of Obama? Disapprove 48.6% Approve 42.1% Other 9.3% U.S. right direction? Wrong 51.4% Right 38.3% Other 10.3% Survey Questions

Posted by: Evilpens at October 14, 2012 04:23 PM (ck76k)

252 I despise Walking Dead.The more the critics fellate a show the more I hate it. --- I just don't get the appeal of the whole zombie thing. Aren't Democrats bad enough?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:23 PM (aHR5E)

253 Yo! Teddy! You the one! How to be, man!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 04:23 PM (JvklE)

254 Well.. this is as good a time as any to tell ya'll.. I finally bought a gun today!!

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 14, 2012 08:18 PM (1hNQS)

 

Do go on.

Posted by: Meremortal, packing CCW at October 14, 2012 04:24 PM (1Y+hH)

255 beisbol time  .

Posted by: grease monkey at October 14, 2012 04:24 PM (VSWPU)

256 258 Zombies vote Democrat of course.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:24 PM (6o4Fb)

257 254 I don't have any feelings. I'm an Aspie, remember?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:24 PM (QEfsO)

258 Zombies vote Democrat of course. --- Well, of course. They're dead.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:25 PM (aHR5E)

259 There's a good book that came out not long ago on TR's South American adventures.... River of Doubt. Well worth the read. He never really recovered from the trip. Teddy's Progressivism was such that I can't call him a great president, but he surely was a great man.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 14, 2012 04:25 PM (C8mVl)

260 Alex.. I got a 38 special.  I shot it first at the range, I really liked it, felt good in my hand and I did pretty good considering it's been 30 years since I shot ANYTHING!  I tried my friends gun but it didn't feel right, and I tried her sons glock and it felt better (bigger gun) but I knew I couldn't afford a glock.  So he took me back to rent the 38 and I loved it. 

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 14, 2012 04:25 PM (1hNQS)

261 Bawney Fwank, loose-ass.

Posted by: Up with people! at October 14, 2012 04:25 PM (kzFo5)

262 ICYMI, from Slate: Stuck for months in a virtual tie, the race in Florida tipped toward Romney this week as the Republican presidential candidate opened up a 7-point lead over Obama... Capitalizing on the momentum, Republicans have also surpassed Democrats in requests for absentee ballots in Florida http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/10/ romney_opens_a_big_lead_in_florida_day_25_romney_s_ray_of_hope.html

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2012 04:25 PM (5H6zj)

263

Posted by: Evilpens at October 14, 2012 08:23 PM (ck76k)

 

Barrel.

Posted by: Meremortal, packing CCW at October 14, 2012 04:25 PM (1Y+hH)

264 I have watched exactly one episode of walking Dead.  Wide open farmstead.  Yeah not even the first floor windows are barricaded.  And wandering around in the forest in the dark Rick and them were and did I mention zombies were about?  And when ninja chick showed up with her zombie slaves I went that does not make sense - even with arms and jaws removed they will still try and get her.

But I know far too many who watch it and love it.  I find other things to do.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 04:26 PM (iJ34D)

265 Ray Lewis injured,ESPN hardest hit.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:26 PM (6o4Fb)

266 No no no, that can't be right. Gerg assures me that Obama's going to win every swing state. Toast, you see.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:26 PM (aHR5E)

267 I refuse to line dance. When my girlfriends and I go out dancing, I always sit them out and tell everyone, "If I wanted to go to an aerobics class, I would've gone to one." Invariably, the biggest gals get out there and it always reminds me of the dancing hippos in Fantasia! Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 07:57 PM (kXoT0) YES, YES, Exactly! A lady after my own heart! Dancing hippos indeed! Making it even worse is that so many people do such a simple dance so poorly and have no idea.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2012 04:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

268 I suppose that EVERYONE noticed that the Brownies won today!! I may have forgotten how to spell EUPHORIA, but then again maybe not!!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 04:27 PM (JvklE)

269 You should be more like that other liberal goof, Sullivan, and just admit defeat as he did tonight. It would go easier on you in the long run. Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2012 08:14 PM (TMB3S) Please tell me this really happened and where can I read these delicious words of defeat.

Posted by: osu at October 14, 2012 04:27 PM (vgMWF)

270

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2012 08:25 PM (5H6zj)

 

Nice. And remember that polls lag, and it's the trend  that  matters.

Posted by: Meremortal likes it at October 14, 2012 04:28 PM (1Y+hH)

271 Anna is that an argument for or against the commitment of Greg?  Or is that an argument to ship Greg to the former Soviet Union and let them deal with the problem?  I'm confused.   

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin who can't help himself at October 14, 2012 04:28 PM (B/3gr)

272 Cicero, swing dancing is quite a lot of fun. I am not anti dance only anti Irish line dancing. For some reason someone in ireland decided not only was it necessary to perpetuate the dance but to magnify the horror by having hundreds of people do it in unison simultaneously.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2012 04:28 PM (Z9EHQ)

273 275 I'm going to wait until it actually happens on Election Night than I will drink their tears.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:28 PM (6o4Fb)

274 Faith Hill is the sexiest woman alive.

Mila may be second.

But that Catherine Zeta Jones now......

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 14, 2012 04:29 PM (BVkEs)

275 @ osu http://tinyurl.com/8ucxys6

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:29 PM (aHR5E)

276 217 P-38's performed poorly in the cold and damp European theater.They did very well indeed in the Pacific. Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 08:11 PM (6o4Fb) A lot of it is dictated by what your opponents can do and the tactics you choose accordingly. For example, I read a book about the air war in the Southern Pacific. P-40s were supposed to be dogs in the air but lots of P-40 pilots loved them. They did a "one and done", bouncing from altitude or out of the sun with one firing pass. Then they would dive and no Zero could keep up with them. They decimated groups of Betty bombers escorted by Zeros with this tactic. So the most successful groups learned their advantages and disadvantages and played to their strengths.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 04:29 PM (tOkJB)

277 GO TEXANS!!!

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 14, 2012 04:29 PM (BVkEs)

278 Anyone know where I can find a dancing hippo? SWM, in limbo, needs to know!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 04:29 PM (JvklE)

279 Gotta say it. Faith Hill>Kate Upton>Festering Boil>Meghan McCain

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2012 04:30 PM (jucos)

280 Well, lost another close one in FFL, so I'm free to root for the Texans tonight 'cause my Packer player is on the bench.

Posted by: Y-not at October 14, 2012 04:31 PM (5H6zj)

281

"Gerg is a wuss too."

 

Don't be too nice.  He takes  wuss thing   that as a compliment.   Liberals love them some wimpy men.

Posted by: Mo the Girl at October 14, 2012 04:31 PM (g2eQp)

282 I am not commenting on the mental or lack of mental state of a certain individual.  Just pointing out how a tyrannical government used a tool meant to help people to instead enslave people in order to perpetuate their brutal rule.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 04:31 PM (iJ34D)

283 >>>For some reason someone in ireland decided not only was it necessary to perpetuate the dance but to magnify the horror by having hundreds of people do it in unison simultaneously. The potato famine took a deep psychological toll, or something.

Posted by: Cicero at October 14, 2012 04:31 PM (oVHYc)

284 281 @ osu http://tinyurl.com/8ucxys6 Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 08:29 PM (aHR5E) That is from 10/9. Andrew has changed a few tampons since then.

Posted by: osu at October 14, 2012 04:32 PM (vgMWF)

285 Glenda Beck hates TR but loves Savanorola.

I am glad Fox News booted his crazy ass.

Posted by: Gerald Gashgrinder at October 14, 2012 04:32 PM (Ho6UX)

286 Faith Hill>Kate Upton>Festering Boil>Meghan McCain every other woman ever Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2012 08:30 PM Now it's fixed.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 14, 2012 04:32 PM (CJwi5)

287 Anyone know where I can find a dancing hippo? SWM, in limbo, needs to know!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 08:29 PM (JvklE)

 

 

Steer east from Dallas and don't get picky early. There's whole states to look through... 

Posted by: Meremortal likes it at October 14, 2012 04:32 PM (1Y+hH)

288 You may not have posted that under your own name, but your sockpuppet "Romneylosesbig" sure as hell did. And your predictions are worthless, for obvious reasons.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:32 PM (aHR5E)

289 Waaaay late to  the party but-

Teddy was a sherrif for a while and pursued bad men through rough country on horseback to make arrests.
He kept a judo expert at the White House for workouts.
He boxed.
He formed up and led the Rough Riders into battle
The Rough Riders where nearly equally divided between upperclass easterners and cowboys.

He had many flaws but was the epitome of the Renaissance Man.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at October 14, 2012 04:33 PM (I4aiX)

290 I am sure you will find at least one dancing hippo at the Million Muppet March.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 04:33 PM (iJ34D)

291 Now it's fixed. Posted by: DC in Towson at October 14, 2012 08:32 PM (CJwi5) ---------------------------------------------------- That dress. Those legs. Oh my G-d the things I would do to her would be borderline felonies.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2012 04:33 PM (jucos)

292 The 2.6% Obama lead is a 2.1% decline from where it stood in September.GREGGUMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Evilpens at October 14, 2012 04:34 PM (ck76k)

293 Alex.. I got a 38 special.


Nice.  I'm partial to glocks myself but the best gun is the one you are comfortable shooting.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 04:35 PM (Gk3SS)

294 I miss the sweater dress. That intro, from 2ish years ago, redefined hot.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 14, 2012 04:35 PM (CJwi5)

295

I love poles.  White poles, black poles, yellow poles, I like to sniff them with my nose. 

Posted by: Greg Has Small Wee at October 14, 2012 04:35 PM (/YJYi)

296 Greg, there is NO chance Barry will win NC. Whatever you are smoking, if you share, we will help you get your butt plug out of your poodles ass.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 14, 2012 04:35 PM (wR+pz)

297 #251  That's it.  I am going to go get a shotgun.  I have a pistol but I am not sure I could hit something with it while under stress. (I do well on the range.)

Besides,  I always wanted to have one.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 14, 2012 04:35 PM (GoIUi)

298 I only wish that I was young enough to rescue Lindsay, or Miley. Save them from themselves, you know, and show them the way to a better path. No, really, no ulterior motive or anything! .... (*how to make an emoticon with  devil  horns!*)

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 04:35 PM (JvklE)

299 I love poles. White poles, black poles, yellow poles, I like to sniff them with my nose. --- Sounds like some strange gay version of Dr. Seuss.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:36 PM (aHR5E)

300 The Texans must think they're Dallas

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 14, 2012 04:39 PM (0CiTm)

301 Is everyone preparing for the riots when Teh JEF gets crushed. I've heard reports that the thieving class are not going to be graceful losers. Cities that will burn? My top 5: 1 - Washington DC 2 - Los Angeles 3 - Chicago 4 - Philly/Trenton 5 - Baltimore

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2012 04:39 PM (jucos)

302 ...the best gun is the one you are comfortable shooting.
Posted by: alexthechick



I have a Rossi .38 2" that I hit everything with

Posted by: Beto at October 14, 2012 04:39 PM (BAnPT)

303 >>That is from 10/9. Andrew has changed a few tampons since then. Just go to Drudge and scroll down to his name. The tiny url thing is a crap shoot.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2012 04:39 PM (TMB3S)

304 Get one of those color coordinated shotguns from Red Jacket that Stephanie puts together.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 04:40 PM (AeC6r)

305 302 I love poles. White poles, black poles, yellow poles, I like to sniff them with my nose.

Posted by: Greg Has Small Wee at October 14, 2012 08:35 PM (/YJYi)

 

Oh! No! You can't trust the polls!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 04:41 PM (JvklE)

306 Philly and Detroit have to be on the city barbecue list on November. Just for an excuse to riot. I dunno about LA though, its mostly Hispanic there and they aren't really the rioting type. Plus, they have less invested in Obama.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 04:41 PM (AeC6r)

307 And in the Pacific the P-38 was going to be mediocre until a certain civilian tech-rep named Charles Lindburg helped figure out the throttle and prop settings for extended range. There are even stories of Lindburg flying with Bong and McGuire's unit and scoring aerial victories, as a civilian. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 08:18 PM (iJ34D) Actually, Lindbergh figured that out for bombers in the ETO. It's called "getting on the step", where you climb to about 50' to 100' above cruising altitude and then slowly let the plane drift down to cruising altitude. Otherwise you were always flying with a small nose up attitude that reduced range considerably. As for the stories of Lindbergh's combat experience, I'm afraid they'll always be unconfirmed stories.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 04:41 PM (tOkJB)

308 1 - Washington DC 2 - Los Angeles 3 - Chicago 4 - Philly/Trenton 5 - Baltimore --- Meh. No huge losses there.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:41 PM (aHR5E)

309 Philly and Detroit have to be on the city barbecue list on November. Just for an excuse to riot. I dunno about LA though, its mostly Hispanic there and they aren't really the rioting type. Plus, they have less invested in Obama. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 08:41 PM (AeC6r) yeah well, that is simply expedited urban renewal.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2012 04:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

310 Here ya go, Truck. dont say I never gave you anything. http://pxlpl.us/sbph Oh, and your list sucks. I live in 5, work in 1 and sis lives near to 4. Off to cheaperthandirt.com

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 14, 2012 04:42 PM (CJwi5)

311 Philly and Detroit have to be on the city barbecue list on November. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 08:41 PM (AeC6r) Detroit is already a pre-cooked ember. It might be warmed up a bit but that's about it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 14, 2012 04:42 PM (X3lox)

312 I forgot Detroit. That is probably more likely than LA. I just threw them in there because they like to riot. They're good at it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2012 04:42 PM (jucos)

313 All the crap about Teddy Roosevelt comes from Glenn Beck,  and his theories about Roosevelt are why I stopped watching him.

Ask yourselves this:  would Teddy Roosevelt have allowed an ambassador to be murdered?  Would he have bowed to a Saudi?  Would he have approved gay marriage?  Would he have worn mom jeans?

No and no and no and no.

His mistake in running as a 3rd party guy came from his mistake in saying he wouldn't run for re-election.  It was a blunder.

However,  as president he was swell.  And his daughter was a super-sarcastic fixture for years in Washington. 

He was a real person who was interesting.  A man,  as opposed to a metrosexual loser. 

I still think he was a great president,  even if Glenn Beck doesn't agree with me.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 14, 2012 04:43 PM (GoIUi)

314

Polls polls polls.  I like poles.  I work at the glory hole.

 

I get 75 cents a session, but only if I leave an impression.  I blame it on capitalist manipulation!

Posted by: Greg Has Sad Life at October 14, 2012 04:43 PM (/YJYi)

315

Detroit?

 

Wait, nobody lives there anymore. Maybe not.

Posted by: Meremortal likes it at October 14, 2012 04:43 PM (1Y+hH)

316 320 TR had little regard for the Constitution,he was in fact a progressive.He gave us the income tax which started the ball rolling on big government.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:45 PM (6o4Fb)

317 320 All the crap about Teddy Roosevelt comes from Glenn Beck, and his theories about Roosevelt are why I stopped watching him.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 14, 2012 08:43 PM (GoIUi)

 

Love Marple, all versions, but I have to say that when Moron Trivia went off, so did I. It wasn't about the politics, it was about the stuuuupid!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 04:45 PM (JvklE)

318 313 Rationally speaking, they have absolutely nothing invested in Obama. (Aside from Leftist "People of Color" propaganda memes, which they use to try to build and maintain their rainbow coalition, or whatever they call it.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:45 PM (QEfsO)

319 Freese just hit a 2 run homer.  2-0 Cards.

Posted by: Tami at October 14, 2012 04:46 PM (X6akg)

320 320 TR had little regard for the Constitution,he was in fact a progressive.He gave us the income tax which started the ball rolling on big government. Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 08:45 PM (6o4Fb) he also line danced.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2012 04:46 PM (Z9EHQ)

321 Does this tuna taste funny?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 14, 2012 04:46 PM (jucos)

322 Toast, you see."

Nope, never said that.

----------------------------


Romney is trailing in all but one. He's toast.
Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (hJEXQ)

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 04:46 PM (P6QsQ)

323 If you gotta .38 Special with +P+ ammo you just about have a .357. You can hot up .38 Special loads to the point where they aren't hard to fire but are capable of doing lots of damage. It's beats the shit out of a .380 auto.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 04:46 PM (tOkJB)

324 Man somebody screwed up Papa John's face.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 14, 2012 04:47 PM (0CiTm)

325 Before TR the government was tiny in scope(probably too tiny),with not enough revenue to build a military commensurate with the economic power of the country.It was also incredibly free of government interference.

Posted by: steevy at October 14, 2012 04:48 PM (6o4Fb)

326 Alex.. I just had too hard a time trying to load the bullets into the clip.. my poor arthritic thumbs... revolver is just so much easier and as you say.. it's what we are comfortable with. I feel very good about it.  Can't wait to go to the range again!

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at October 14, 2012 04:48 PM (1hNQS)

327

 

Teddy would eviscerate Obumbles with his pinky finger

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 14, 2012 04:48 PM (DU15A)

328 Man somebody screwed up Papa John's face. Posted by: USS Diversity at October 14, 2012 08:47 PM (0CiTm) --------------------------------------------------------- Good G-d did he ever. WTF was he thinking?

Posted by: Mickey Rourke at October 14, 2012 04:48 PM (jucos)

329 Just go to Drudge and scroll down to his name. The tiny url thing is a crap shoot. Posted by: JackStraw at October 14, 2012 08:39 PM (TMB3S) Thanks Jackstraw. _____ Andrew: As an Obama supporter, I remain committed, if DEEPLY DEMORALIZED. ** and in the next paragraph he used the word "feckless" to describe TFG performance. Rather Tasty Andrew!

Posted by: osu at October 14, 2012 04:48 PM (vgMWF)

330 Does this tuna taste funny?

---

Check the expiration date.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 14, 2012 04:49 PM (BVkEs)

331 Glenn Beck is a fucking idiot.

And the 16th Amendment is immoral but it is certainly not unConstitutional.  It was properly ratified.

Posted by: Gerald Gashgrinder at October 14, 2012 04:49 PM (Ho6UX)

332 Romney is trailing in all but one. He's toast. Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 18, 2012 07:22 PM (hJEXQ) Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 14, 2012 08:46 PM (P6QsQ) --- I actually think troll was trying to deny that it said Obama was going to win all the swing states. Either way, it lied. Again.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:49 PM (aHR5E)

333 Man somebody screwed up Papa John's face. Posted by: USS Diversity at October 14, 2012 08:47 PM (0CiTm) --------------------------------------------------------- Good G-d did he ever. WTF was he thinking? Posted by: Mickey Rourke at October 14, 2012 08:48 PM (jucos) -------------------------------------------------------- Heh

Posted by: Jerry Jones at October 14, 2012 04:49 PM (jucos)

334 I'm all for commerce and enterprise, mind you. But there is something to be said, for preserving the grandeur of beautiful places. Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 07:39 PM (l5RhJ) *********************** Not to be an asshole, but if you like the idea that much then buy it yourself and turn it into a park. It's my same answer to leftard groups that want to do the same. Can't afford that? Get some backers. Not enough backers? Maybe the idea isn't as desirable as you thought.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Mohammad was a goat-fucking kiddie-raper at October 14, 2012 04:50 PM (eQnzo)

335 338 Sure, that's why he got purged. Because he's a fucking idiot. Unlike all the celibate geniuses one sees on TV...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:50 PM (QEfsO)

336 suggestion:  Quit worrying about ammo and think more about aim. Aim is the thing that makes our guys so much feared in the field, not that they have some kind of super-ammo. They have aim. Same should apply at home. Get something dependable, keep it clean, and aim it!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 04:51 PM (JvklE)

337 >>>Philly and Detroit have to be on the city barbecue list on November. Just for an excuse to riot. I dunno about LA though, its mostly Hispanic there and they aren't really the rioting type. Plus, they have less invested in Obama. I'm sure Salt Lake City is gearing up too.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 14, 2012 04:51 PM (AzDzi)

338 Teddy had lots of "progressive" (read compassionate conservative) ideals that got hijacked by the Woodrow Wilson progressives, and have plagued us ever since.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 04:52 PM (tOkJB)

339 I'm sure Salt Lake City is gearing up too. --- Well, sure, Romney being toast and all. *snicker*

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:53 PM (aHR5E)

340 After they burn Detroit down on Halloween for Devil's Night, there won't be much that will take a spark and flame up on Election Day.


Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 14, 2012 04:54 PM (kXoT0)

341 Teddy Roosevelt was a Progressive.

Nuff said.

Nanny statist.  Imperialist. 

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 14, 2012 04:55 PM (he2LC)

342 I'm a real dick!

Posted by: Gerald=Herbert at October 14, 2012 04:55 PM (/YJYi)

343 Freese is really working up to being Mr Post Season.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 14, 2012 04:56 PM (AeC6r)

344 Okay, I'm caught up on the thread.  60 inches tall?  Alexthechick, you could fit in my pocket.  I'm almost a foot taller. 

Posted by: no good deed at October 14, 2012 04:56 PM (mjR67)

345 I'm sure Gerald knows all about fucking idiots. IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:56 PM (aHR5E)

346 suggestion: Quit worrying about ammo and think more about aim. Aim is the thing that makes our guys so much feared in the field, not that they have some kind of super-ammo. They have aim. Same should apply at home. Get something dependable, keep it clean, and aim it!

Posted by: and irresolute at October 14, 2012 08:51 PM (JvklE)

This^  putiing holes in the right places does the job.

 

I had a long day at the range today !!

Shot the Kimber in .270 WSM, The .30-06, The 6 MM, The mini 14, 9mm Ruger pistol and the .22 Ruger pistol !!!!!!!!!!!  Expensive but fun !

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 14, 2012 04:56 PM (DU15A)

347 The entry of the U.S. into WWI was all about bailing out the banks that lent money to the Brits and French.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 14, 2012 04:57 PM (he2LC)

348 60 inches tall? Alexthechick, you could fit in my pocket. I'm almost a foot taller.


Yeah, when I say I'm hobbitsized, it's not really a joke.




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 04:58 PM (Gk3SS)

349 Excuse me, you Beckerheads.

Roger Ailes can't even stand that clown now.

Posted by: Gerald Gashgrinder at October 14, 2012 04:58 PM (Ho6UX)

350 The entry of the U.S. into WWI was all about bailing out the banks that lent money to the Brits and French. --- Yeah, I've always been more than a little unclear on why we got involved in that one.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 04:58 PM (aHR5E)

351 352

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 04:58 PM (QEfsO)

352 343 suggestion: Quit worrying about ammo and think more about aim. Aim is the thing that makes our guys so much feared in the field, not that they have some kind of super-ammo. They have aim. Same should apply at home. Get something dependable, keep it clean, and aim it! A .25 is gonna bounce off 6'8" 380 lb. Bubba's brain pan like a ping pong ball and only piss him off worse. Especially if he's on drugs.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 04:59 PM (tOkJB)

353 So Oliver Stone has a show coming on Showtime in November called "The Untold History of the United States".  Dear God.

Posted by: Adam at October 14, 2012 04:59 PM (/YJYi)

354 60"?

Proof that good things come in small packages.

I have a 40 yo neice that is 4' 10"

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 14, 2012 04:59 PM (he2LC)

355 356 Yes, clowns are bad, but you don't seem too Concerned about Obama and Biden. Why might that be?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 14, 2012 05:00 PM (QEfsO)

356 Is this Gerald twit the same fuckwit who had that strange fascination with horse semen, or was that a different troll? Oh wait, I forgot what all trolls are, and do.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 05:00 PM (aHR5E)

357 60 inches tall? Alexthechick, you could fit in my pocket. I'm almost a foot taller.


Yeah, when I say I'm hobbitsized, it's not really a joke.




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 08:58 PM (Gk3SS)

please tell me you don't have hooibt feet

 

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 14, 2012 05:00 PM (DU15A)

358 Cuz obviously all you morons love Roger Ailes.  Obviously!  lolol

Posted by: Gerald Has Half Brain at October 14, 2012 05:01 PM (/YJYi)

359 60 inches tall? Alexthechick, you could fit in my pocket. I'm almost a foot taller.Yeah, when I say I'm hobbitsized, it's not really a joke.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 14, 2012 08:58 PM (Gk3SS)
please tell me you don't have hooibt feet

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 14, 2012 09:00 PM (DU15A)

hobbit feet...typing fail

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 14, 2012 05:02 PM (DU15A)

360 I like Glenn Beck.  He just didn't have enough material for a daily 1 hour show. 

Boy was he right about the Left and the Jihadis getting together.


Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 14, 2012 05:03 PM (he2LC)

361 354 The entry of the U.S. into WWI was all about bailing out the banks that lent money to the Brits and French. Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 14, 2012 08:57 PM (he2LC) Ever heard of the Zimmerman telegram?

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 05:04 PM (tOkJB)

362 Why I distrust Glenn Beck:

1.  He started in opposing George Bush way before Bush was unpopular.  He seemed to me to have a jealousy of Bush because he was rich and good-looking.

2. The Teddy Roosevelt thing.  I am tired of hearing about it.  Before Beck,  no one thought Roosevelt was any sort of anti-capitalist.  Beck single handedly tried to demonize him.

3. Snarky comments about Sarah Palin, Rudy Guiliani, and others.  Thought SANTORUM was some sort of hero similar to Washington!!

I don't like him.  So anyone quoting him is immediately reduced to the status of an idiot.

The end.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 14, 2012 05:06 PM (GoIUi)

363 Ever heard of the Zimmerman telegram? --- Was that where racist vigilante George Zimmerman gloated about gunning down an innocent law-abiding African-American child?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 05:06 PM (aHR5E)

364 I guess Truck Monkey just got a can of Bumble Bee's Finest Soylent Tuna.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 05:07 PM (iJ34D)

365 Thank goodness that Teddy Roosevelt has his cellphone in his jacket pocket to stop that bullet!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 14, 2012 05:08 PM (Zd/NW)

366 Zimmermann Telegram.  Basically Germany said to Mexico help us and you get the US Southwest.

http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/zimmermann/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 14, 2012 05:08 PM (iJ34D)

367 so another downside to reading your speeches off a teleprompter - nothing in your pocket to protect you.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 14, 2012 05:12 PM (Z9EHQ)

368 TR was a trust buster.  To Beck that makes him a pinko commie.

Posted by: Gerald Gashgrinder at October 14, 2012 05:14 PM (Ho6UX)

369 TR had little regard for the Constitution,he was in fact a progressive.He gave us the income tax which started the ball rolling on big government.

Wrong.  The sixteenth amendment was proposed and passed long after Roosevelt left office.  It was first proposed in July 1909, and then ratified and took effect in early 1913.

Posted by: TH at October 14, 2012 05:16 PM (nyHxK)

370 Thank goodness that Teddy Roosevelt has his cellphone in his jacket pocket to stop that bullet!
He went on TV later that night to reassure the public in a fireside chat.

Posted by: Joe "the Hyena" Biden at October 14, 2012 05:18 PM (AeC6r)

371 204 Haven't you heard? He lead Seal Team 6 and capped OBL! --- I heard he killed OBL in hand to hand combat. Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 14, 2012 08:07 PM (aHR5E) *************** I heard OBL was smothered. By b. obama's twat. What? Shit! That part was still classified?

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Mohammad was a goat-fucking kiddie-raper at October 14, 2012 05:18 PM (eQnzo)

372

>>>A .25 is gonna bounce off 6'8" 380 lb. Bubba's brain pan like a ping pong ball and only piss him off worse. Especially if he's on drugs.

 

I worked with a guy a few years ago, 6'5" 250 lb.  He got shot in the chest with a 25. It bounced off. But it chipped a bone inside that cut his heart and he was dead in about a minute. So you can never tell.........

Posted by: Racefan at October 14, 2012 05:20 PM (MzbLj)

373 I'm a real dick!

Posted by: Gerald=Herbert at October 14, 2012 08:55 PM (/YJYi)

 

Uh, whhut?

Posted by: Freddie Fluke-Brain at October 14, 2012 05:26 PM (1Y+hH)

374 375 TR was a trust buster. To Beck that makes him a pinko commie. Posted by: Gerald Gashgrinder at October 14, 2012 09:14 PM (Ho6UX) "Trusts" (i.e. monopolies) have always failed on their own because got fat and lazy and somebody else figured out how to beat them at their own game. The only "trusts" that need to be broken are those created and subsidized by the government. So basically, Beck is correct.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 05:28 PM (tOkJB)

375 304 #251 That's it. I am going to go get a shotgun. I have a pistol but I am not sure I could hit something with it while under stress. (I do well on the range.) Besides, I always wanted to have one. Posted by: Miss Marple at October 14, 2012 08:35 PM (GoIUi) ************** Not to reignite the battle, if it hasn't started already, but Mossberg has a nice 500 tactical pump shotgun I have my eye on.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Mohammad was a goat-fucking kiddie-raper at October 14, 2012 05:34 PM (eQnzo)

376 Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!

Posted by: Fox2! at October 14, 2012 05:35 PM (1Qpmy)

377 Not to reignite the battle, if it hasn't started already, but Mossberg has a nice 500 tactical pump shotgun I have my eye on. Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Mohammad was a goat-fucking kiddie-raper at October 14, 2012 09:34 PM (eQnzo) It's hard to beat police shotguns but I'll always love my Model 870 Remington. And they make tactical models

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 05:43 PM (tOkJB)

378

341 I'm all for commerce and enterprise, mind you.
But there is something to be said, for preserving the grandeur of beautiful places. 

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 07:39 PM (l5RhJ)

 

*********************** 

 

Not to be an asshole, but if you like the idea that much then buy it yourself and turn it into a park. It's my same answer to leftard groups that want to do the same. Can't afford that? Get some backers. Not enough backers? Maybe the idea isn't as desirable as you thought.

 

Posted by: Boomer Redneque knows Mohammad was a goat-fucking kiddie-raper at October 14, 2012 08:50 PM (eQnzo) 

 

-----------------

 

It was government land, Boomer.

I'm not aware of Teddy Roosevelt taking anyone's land to create parks with.

 

His setting aside beautiful parts of it, prevented those who came after him from leasing it to mining company cronies...or having it used as test sites for whatever subsequent governmental entities decided they wanted to use it for.

 

Posted by: wheatie at October 14, 2012 06:39 PM (l5RhJ)

379 It's hard to beat police shotguns but I'll always love my Model 870 Remington. And they make tactical models Posted by: Ed Anger at October 14, 2012 09:43 PM (tOkJB) The Mossberg Model 500 remains the standard for personal defense and law enforcement use, but I still don't understand why shotguns would require rails and all that other shit. If you're using a shotgun, it means you're close enough to see the bad guy's expression. And call me old-fashioned, but I keep my commie surplus Yugo SKS in its original wooden stock although really nifty looking aftermarket 'tactical' stocks are readily available. I stick to iron sights as opposed to red-dot, since anything battery-powered is subject to reliability issues. Seems to me 'tactical' has become descriptive of a style, a certain movie cool aesthetic with few or no real functional enhancements--which isn't to say SWAT teams and soldiers don't need--and shouldn't use--the latest and best technology. Me, all I want from a given firearm is reliability and center-mass accuracy at the range offered by the platform.

Posted by: troyriser at October 14, 2012 06:44 PM (ptcFO)

380 Barky Ocarter, once and future, Preezy does something similar every month. He and Mooch both bleed like a stuck hog and drone on for hours. Unlike Roosevelt's stunt of taking a bullet, Barky takes a load from Reggie, for the good of the country. Unlike TR, barky is a feckless candy assed turd goblin. Barky's speech would sound like "It takes more than Reggie and shitloads of golf to stop a Bull Shitter!" And immediately after the speech Reggie and Jimmy Kimmel would fight to kiss Barky's scrawny ass first, and in public. Barky could start his own new party... The BullShit Party.

Posted by: Sandman will resist at October 14, 2012 08:22 PM (pPrLw)

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