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Good Morning Morons today is Friday January 27, 1012. On this day in 1880 Thomas Edison got a patent for one of those shitty lights that are now illegal. And I have to say it peaked out at 75.1° here yesterday. Damn all that AGW shit

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And on that score another green piece of shit goes bankrupt.

 

http://is.gd/STvgo5.

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One More Green Bankrupt on Our Dollar

 

http://is.gd/xnph5c

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Fox showing a video this morning of a 13 y.o girl getting a beat down on a school bus.  She wound up with a concussion.  I ask you now. Who will be held accountable for this? If you say the bus driver or the school authorities, or heaven forbid the students you would be wrong.

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Dems bring up new taxes. Will it make it to the news?

 

http://is.gd/8eEKHZ

 

Hell no must have more “debates”!

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Some Dems are NOT on the abortion bus.

 

http://is.gd/XqPZEq

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We had a big debate about lard yesterday. But hell it just doesnÂ’t clog your innards!

 

http://is.gd/ElwJpF

8 The last big news? Newt v Mutt

Who gives a shit?

9 Santorum focus on the issues!

Why? You are still there because none of the debates did that.

10 Newt is a moonbat with a big butt, Willard doesn't put out, Rick has too much angst, and Ron is a loony geek.

Your curfew is 10pm sharp.

11 Just a day after denying reports that he was considering folding up and leaving Florida before the primary,
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Shit Gabe that would get in the way of Mutt

That is "repulsive"!

12 @8
I do.  Mitt had his best debate yet, and Newt was knocked off his stride.  All I could think was that Mitt just won the presidency.  The national audience was probably small, but I imagine lots of Floridians watched. 

CNN should never host another debate. 

13 Newt is the personification of smarmy. The word must have been invented by someone who had a vision of Newt. The Unthinkable is occurring. Let's hope Mittens does not become a puppy curling up in B.O.'s lap, as Mac did. I really believe he will not. And if he becomes president, we have to force him to repeal BO-care, and to nominate Miguel Estrada.

14

Mornin' Morons. Gues who stands to benefit from the latest White House energy proposal? That's right, it's your favorite anti-Christ and mine, Mr. George Soros. http://tinyurl.com/84dm5yv

15 Posted by: pep at January 27, 2012 07:06 AM (YXmuI)
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Yes, but you have been a Mutt musher since the beginning.

16 We Republicans are dumb as dog shit. Why are we letting the MSM set the agenda? Why are Newt and Romney fighting over bullshit and only making us look bad. Why don't they attack obama and only attack obama. Who is advising these pricks?

17 @15
Not really true, but whatever.  If juvenile names make you feel good, knock yourself out. 

18 We Republicans are dumb as dog shit. Why are we letting the MSM set the agenda?
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We did that when we agreed to the debates and gave them credence.

19 We did that when we agreed to the debates and gave them credence. Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2012 07:11 AM (YdQQY) Yup. Big mistake

20 Good Lord! F&F reporting that Sajack and Vanna were drunk behind the wheel.

21 Good Lord! FF reporting that Sajack and Vanna were drunk behind the wheel. Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2012 07:12 AM (YdQQY) But! Did Sajack ever have carnal knowledge of Vanna?

22 But! Did Sajack ever have carnal knowledge of Vanna?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 27, 2012 07:14 AM (i6RpT)

LOL, I used to have a nude photo of Vanna. Does that count?

23 I used to have a nude photo of Vanna. Does that count? Posted by: Vic at January 27, 2012 07:18 AM (YdQQY) Works for me

24 Vic, those two green bankruptcy stories are about the same entity, Ener1.
 
I missed the debate but from the various reports I read Newt didn't do himself any favors last night. Ain't neither one o them there boys playin' nice in FL. Ah well, ABO.

25 Mitt won the presidency again after a debate? Seems like after every debate we hear he just put all his demons to rest and will now cruise forward effortlessly to the nomination.

26 Romney is an idiot. He should do like 36 aides to Barack Obama do and just not fucking pay taxes at all. Taxes are for the little people.

27 @17 does not really true = mostly true?

28 Santorum was just on F&F -- he says he'll get his taxes and be back in Florida within 24 hrs.

29 @26
What you heard from me the last couple of days was that Newt had been strong and Mitt needed to respond or he could lose.  He did that last night.

I can't speak for anyone else.

30

"Who's advising these pricks?" It's sad that we've sunk so low in politics that the only people attracted to the job have no core principles. What should be happening, in a sane world where everything wasn't backwards, would be that a candidate should sit the advisors down and lay out his or her governing philosophy, say, a drastically smaller government that lives within its means and only within its Constitutional powers, and tell them to start crafting ways to communicate this philosophy to the masses as effectively, as assertively, and as clearly as possible, and make sure they emphasize how their philosophy helps the Average American to be more free and prosperous.

31 new campaign slogan for Mitt

Mitt Romney
Inevitable (until the next vote)

32 See the sidebar story about Mitt's donations to dems that gives *another* reason to not vote for the lying db in the general.

33 Am I the slowest moron who hadn't put it together that the only reason Newt brought up moon bases (*rolls eyes*) is that they are currently campaigning in Florida?  Jeebus, I'm giving Newt demerits for being an unserious panderer.

34 What will we Newt promise Nevada? Neon factories?  Mushroom cloud testing? BIG secret bases?

35

Posted by: dogfish at January 27, 2012 07:30 AM (N2yhW)

That's probably about right.

36 Gee I just saw a Chevy Volt commercial on FOX. Are they shitting me? "The car we had to build"?

37 Florida is winner-take-all and Santorum knows he's not going to win it no matter how well he did last night. It's smart to make a mark and move on.

38 @35: All Newt had to do in FL was come out in favor of restoring the Constellation program. But no, Newt being Newt decides to declare the Moon the 51st state.

39 And if Romney paid too much, I hope he files for a refund. Of course, he's probaby then turn around and donate it.

40 Did gas prices go up 40 cents overnight everywhere, or am I just getting screwed for That Football Game With the Trademarked Name?

Topped off this morning at $3.11, but most places are running $3.45-$3.50.

41 I'll just come out and say it: at the national level the conservative movement is dead.

42 To give the devil his due, Paul had the best line of the month - to send some politicians to the moon. On his mothership?

43 >>It's sad that we've sunk so low in politics that the only people attracted to the job have no core principles.<<

I think a lot of people attracted to the job aren't willing to sacrifice their families to the MFM.

44

I'm betting Sajak smashed that.

 

Vanna White's Playboy spread definitely activated the launch sequence.

45 4 My daughter got beat up on the school bus when she was around 14. The boy that hit her repeatedly had been transferred to that bus after causing problems on another one. He was two years older than her too.
 
So, the school police were called and took the boy off the bus. Now's where the story gets interesting. I asked her if she wanted to press charges against him and she said yes. I warned her that the most likely outcome was that they would do nothing about the charges or him. She wanted to proceed.
 
First we tried to obtain the police report from the school. No such luck. They didn't file one. You see, if the school reports a violent incident they get downchecked by the feds which dole out that sweet sweet moola. Talk about disincentives, eh? The school did try to tell me that the student had been punished, but were unable to describe what exactly they did. Uh huh.
 
So off to juvie hall we go to file the complaint ourselves. Hijinks ensued. After filling out several forms, identifying witnesses, etc. they said they would be in touch.
 
They must have meant with their navels, cuz we NEVER heard from them. On the phone, in writing, by telepathy, nothing. My two follow up calls revealed 'We are still working on it.'
 
Then and only then did I say to my daughter 'I told you so'. If you want to raise a cynic, you must do it right.
 

46 @45 Heather nailed it

47 I think a lot of people attracted to the job aren't willing to sacrifice their families to the MFM.

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The lady sitting behind me last night is a local attorney who has been considering running for a judgeship but is dreading the the nasty campaign. She's right that they can always find something to tear you apart about. In fact, in her case, I already have an issue.....she takes issue with Romney's Mormonism.

48 If Willard was running a good campaign, he'd point out that he paid more in taxes like that senile jizzmop Warren Buffett wants everybody else to do but is too fucking cheap to actually lead by example.

I don't count on the subgeniuses that are advising him, like Norm Coleman, to provide that advice.

49

Did Romney repudiate his campaign advisor and possible HHS Secretary nominee Norm Coleman's statement that Obamacare won't be totally repealsed if Romney wins the White House?

 

I didn't get to watch any of the debate or live blog to see this.

50 Newt campaigning in Nevada: "You know, I've always believed that the libertarians had a point when they say prostitution should be legal..."

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Dude. That's not even funny, because it's TRUE!!!
Romney hit him on his pandering last night. It's been a new boondoggle in each state thus far.

51 Then and only then did I say to my daughter 'I told you so'.

If you want to raise a cynic, you must do it right.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2012 07:40 AM (BhuDE)

And the damn liberal fools want to know why people take law in their own hands.

I will not say any more.

52 Did Romney repudiate his campaign advisor and possible HHS Secretary nominee Norm Coleman's statement that Obamacare won't be totally repealsed if Romney wins the White House?

I didn't get to watch any of the debate or live blog to see this.

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He said forcefully and repeatedly that he will REPEAL Obamacare.

53 Y@43: that's going to far. BSantorum is a classic conservative, including socially (ironically, Ace dislikes him for that). Romney is more conservative than some people want to admit; his years in MA must be viewed thru the lense of the liberal electorate there. I'm not even going to say Newt is not a conservative in some ways. But his erratic, impulsive, and opportunistic nature leads him down the road to things like Moonbase Newt. The anti-Romney folks say Romney is a poseur and that drives their dislike for him. But Good Lord, what on Earth (or in Lunar orbit) has Newt turned out to be?

54 I mean, I know he's from loony Minnesota and all, but... Al Fuckin' Franken????

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IIRC, there were shenanigans going on there.

55 http://bit.ly/wIW535

HA HA Joepardy Contestants can't name MSNBC host

56 45 >>It's sad that we've sunk so low in politics that the only people attracted to the job have no core principles.<<

I think a lot of people attracted to the job aren't willing to sacrifice their families to the MFM.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs italics. And a beer. at January 27, 2012 07:37 AM (ZKzrr)

Absolute power and absolute money have corrupted absolutely. Watching the 'debate' last night, I could barely stomach what my choices are.

57 http://bit.ly/wIW535

HA HA Joepardy Contestants can't name MSNBC host

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Heehee. I haven' even watched it yet and I'm already giggling.

58 @34 I'm sure those donations were from his *blind* trust and he had *nothing* to do with them

59 @   42 Did gas prices go up 40 cents overnight everywhere, or am I just getting screwed for That Football Game With the Trademarked Name?

Topped off this morning at $3.11, but most places are running $3.45-$3.50.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs italics. And a beer. at January 27, 2012 07:34 AM (ZKzrr)

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Heather, were do you live?  I'll be right down with a tanker truck.

I haven't seen gas prices as low as $3.45 since His Kenyaness moved to PA Ave.

Count your blessings if that is a "high" price for you.

60 "I think a lot of people attracted to the job aren't willing to sacrifice their families to the MFM." Yeah, HR, that's a big factor, one that Newt could have capitalized on, but hasn't. That big double standard that exists could easily be turned back on the MFM to show their hypocrisy, Newt even got a standing ovation when he did it. IMHO, there's a vast sentiment against the media that for some strange reason, no candidate seems willing to take advantage of. We've discussed at length how to do it here many times: ignore the Dim talking points and start pointing our the many failures of Progressivism, or ask why they don't ask the SCOAMT that same question. Shit, if us Morons can figure that out, why can't any of the candidates do it?

61

shenanigans

What??? *quickly closing trunk*

62 Then and only then did I say to my daughter 'I told you so'. If you want to raise a cynic, you must do it right.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2012 07:40 AM (BhuDE)

 

Yet more proof that the Leftist state is the enemy, and utterlly illegitimate.  In many ways a right wing military junta would be preferable to what we have now.  At least then the criminal scum would be taken out to the desert and shot.

63

Is Norm Coleman still with the Romney campaign?

 

So Mitt said Coleman was full of shit? Thats a relief.

64 >>All Newt had to do in FL was come out in favor of restoring the Constellation program. But no, Newt being Newt decides to declare the Moon the 51st state.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 07:33 AM (niZvt)<<

Yep...that would have been pandering, but smart pandering at least. Sigh. I said on another thread a few days ago, this contest now boils down to 1) can Romney find a few things that conservatives like that he at least can *sound* passsionate about, like he really believes them and 2) can Gingrich, after his big win in SC, learn and practice a little self-control with his shooting off at the mouth thing. Which one does those things better and faster, will be the nominee. From what I've heard about the debate (did NOT watch the thing), it sounds as if Romney at least started working on #1 a bit; Gingrich, not so much on #2.

65 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 07:44 AM (niZvt)

Oooh...Oooh! Pick me!

I can answer that question. Based on last night's small portion of the debate that I could stomach; Newt is a pandering douchebag who lost my vote.

Romney described his immigration policy, which seemed reasonable. Newt immediately attacked him for wanting to deport grandmothers. The problem was that Romney had specifically said that he wouldn't hunt people down and toss them out. He said that employment law enforcement would gradually "self-deport" the illegals.

66 I'd rather spent money on NASA and a moon base than the Volt and moonbats

67

34 See the sidebar story about Mitt's donations to dems that gives *another* reason to not vote for the lying db in the general.

 

Yeah, but that was in Massa two shits where we have your socialists and we have your liberals.  And it was 20 years ago.  People change.  Some more than others, of course, but I don't think that's relevant.  AND ONE OF THE DUDES HE GAVE MONEY TO IS NAMED DICK SWETT.  YOU CAN'T FAULT A MAN FOR GIVING MONEY TO A DIDE NAMED DICK SWETT.

If he'd done it in 2004 or something, that's different.

Plus, there are a lot of other more serious things to whack Mitt about.

68 I'd rather spent money on NASA and a moon base than the Volt and moonbats

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Newt can always say he was baiting the Chinese to blow $1T on the race to colonize the moon.

69 @Truman North

Sorry, if the choice is between a democrat (Obama) and a democrat (Romney) I'm not voting for either one.

70 Mark E--Indianapolis.  That's why I was wondering if the prices spiked for everyone or just me.  

71 >>IIRC, there were shenanigans going on there.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2012 07:44 AM (piMMO)<<

The Dems (or whatever they're called in Minnesota) stole that one, for sure, but Coleman's crappy campaign made the results close enough for them to be able to steal it.

72 well that was depressing.........

73
High energy prices? Surely there must be a reason:

FirstEnergy closing 6 coal-fired power plants

FirstEnergy Corp. says it will shut six older, coal-fired power plants in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Maryland, affecting about 530 employees.

The Akron, Ohio-based utility said Thursday that the move is related to new environmental rules. The U.S. Environmental Protection agency in late December announced new national standards designed to reduce toxic pollution from coal- and oil-fired power plants.

FirstEnergy says the plants in Cleveland, Ashtabula (ash-tuh-BYOO'-luh), Oregon and Eastlake in Ohio; Adrian, Pa.; and Williamsport, Md., will be retired by Sept. 1.

http://tinyurl.com/78grbc3

74 i'm sorry....but the moon thing just sounds really boring....i don't think i'd want to even go for vacation.....

75 Newt hit Romney on supporting Dems and Romney said that he has never supported a Dem when an R was on the ticket.

That sounds reasonable to me. I've voted De for local elections when no R was on the ballot.

76 I'm not voting for either one.

So you've told us.  Endlessly.

77 *******36 What will we Newt promise Nevada? Neon factories? Mushroom cloud testing? BIG secret bases?

Posted by: dogfish at January 27, 2012 07:31 AM (N2yhW******

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Newt will promise to send nuclear waste to the moon, not Yucca Mountain.

And Captain Hate, I love the word "jizzmop". Perfect!

78 >>>>>>>>>And it was 20 years ago<<<<<<<<<

It seems to have been a big deal that Perry was a democrat 20 years ago (I recall Mitt himself mentioning it once or twice), and no one has a problem with digging up 20 year old Newtisms.

79 "the guy couldn't even beat Al Franken for fuck's sake" Al Franken's campaign cheated. Don't you remember that bullshit at all? Norm Coleman won but they certified the vote for Al Franken.

80

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2012 07:43 AM (7FadD)

Yeah, god help us if Mitt's the nominee, and the General election goes down to the wire.  Coleman will open up his whole bag of tried-and-true recount bendover tools for Mitt.  What's James Baker up to?

81 I now come in 5 delicious flavors.

82 i'm sorry....but the moon thing just sounds really boring....i don't think i'd want to even go for vacation.....

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When Newt started talking about a program where numerous spacecraft would be launched each day I pictured the movie Gattaca.

BTW, Uma Thurman will be starring in Kill Bill 3.

83 I've voted Dem for local elections when no R was on the ballot.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2012 07:59 AM (piMMO)

RINO!

84 "I'm not voting for either one." So... you're not voting at all?

85 @88: I thought she killed Bill in Part II?

86 I've voted Dem for local elections when no R was on the ballot.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2012 07:59 AM (piMMO)
RINO!

*****

I know. I know.



Hangs head in shame.

87 Robert Hegyes dead? That's so weird, I was just thinking about him the other day...

88 "91 @88: I thought she killed Bill in Part II?" Maybe 5 finger palm of death didn't work and he faked it!

89 "I'm not voting for either one." So... you're not voting at all? Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:04 AM (et2m1) People who are threatening not to vote remind of my daughters when they were 2 and threatening not to breath

90 I thought she killed Bill in Part II?

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 I have no idea, because I didn't watch it. Maybe she'll be in flashbacks. How brutally was she killed?

91 Besides wouldn't the ending of Kill Bill 3 end up in erotic asphyxiation anyways?

92 If you didn't watch the debate last night, and all you are looking at is Mitt vs. Newt, it was a clear win for Mitt. Newt looked like an idiot, unquestionably a terrible performance all around for him. However, I think both of them looked much smaller afterwards. It's not going to make any difference, but Santorum was light years better than both, and when it came time to hit Mitt hard on Romneycare, he beat him badly. Mitt tossed out the terrible line "it's not worth getting angry about," and I think he immediately realized his error. He tried to make up for it by tossing out numbers, and Santorum kept at him, essentially laying it out is plain as can be: Mitt can't and won't be able to distinguish himself from Obama on this subject.

93 After suffering through last night's debates, I came to the conclusion that Mittens probably is inevitable, but that we are getting what we deserve by not revolting against the entrenched Republican good old person establishment years ago.  It has been clear for some time (and for those with short memories, just consider Bob Dole as the "candidate" for starters), that these bums do not have any interests but their own.  I am sure there are some principled senior Republican politicians, but the only two that come to my mind are Paul Ryan and Jim DeMint.
My conclusion is that we conservatives blinked and thought that the TEA party advances of 2010 meant something.  What they did mean was we got to make one move in a chess game had been going on a long time,  with the insiders having already made lots of moves without us having a turn. We should have turned up the TEA party intensity to 11 and not looked back.
I feel sorry for leaving my grand-children the crappy legacy that I think will be theirs.

94 "He said forcefully and repeatedly that he will REPEAL Obamacare." Well, that's encouraging. I truly hope he does so, he has the polls that show SCOAMTCare is growing in its unpopularity, so he could consider it a mandate to repeal, or something. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that Mittens will be teh Pubbie nom, but I'm pulling the lever down here for Neut next Tuesday anyway. Burr, saddle, Establishment GOP, some assembly required.

95 Florida is winner-take-all and Santorum knows he's not going to win it no matter how well he did last night. It's smart to make a mark and move on.

Florida is not winner take all.

96 If she's going to stay in state schools and is white she needs to take multiple self defense courses.  I was in so many unprovoked fights before my parents put me in private school that, 25 years later, when they moved my son's football camp into the public middle school gym because of rain and I walked in the smell sent me into a mild panic attack. Friends of ours just got their daughter into catholic school and got help from the parish because she was being beaten up at school, the school was siding with the criminals, she was physically ill from the stress and when she didn't go they had her arrested for truancy. Other people I know took their daughters out because the 14 year old girl in 5th grade was beating up everyone and the school was telling the class not to provoke her.

97 Newt's idea about the whole space thing crap is kind of dumb anyways. What will happen in the future is that we will get a extremely bloated space agency trying to play catch up after having no goal for the last 3 years under the Obama Administration (other than "muslim outreach").

98 I'm writing in Fred Thompson
He would be known as "The Sleeping President"
But at least he would be up at 3am going to pee when the phone rang.

99 "Florida is not winner take all." Yes it is. I know despite your name, google search & new search doesn't fail me to point out this.

100 95 "91 @88: I thought she killed Bill in Part II?" Maybe 5 finger palm of death didn't work and he faked it! Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:05 AM (et2m1) Yeah, but ever since his encounter with the 5 Strand Rope of Kinkiness, David Carradine has just been hanging around, listless.

101

They looked smaller because CNN went out of it's way to ask STUPID QUESTIONS.

No national debt, an israel quetion to make Paul look kooky, no "How are you different from Obama, stupid boxers or briefs questions, Wolfy pitting the rich guys against each other.

I am so pissed that our TOOLS are allowing the media to frame the debate and they then argue about which one of them is BADDER because they're RICHER.

Fuck CNN

102 But at least he would be up at 3am going to pee when the phone rang. Posted by: Panzer Trout at January 27, 2012 08:08 AM (j5CHE) And also at 2 and 4 and 5 and then up for good at 6

103 #96

I won't vote for President if Romney is the nominee, no.  I will vote downticket, but I cannot vote for a democrat.  Which Romney is, or wishes he was at least.

104 So in other words, you are voting for Obama.

105 Kill Zombie Bill, Part 1.

106 Did anyone catch Obama saying shit about the Navy and nuclear power during his SOTU? It was a weird passing comment.

107 Posted by: nevergiveup at January 27, 2012 08:05 AM (i6RpT)

Or my 17-year-old who threatened not to talk to me until I took back some comment.

I asked her how she was getting to school.

Amazingly, she began to talk!

108 101 - That's not really true though. He didn't forcefully say anything related to Romneycare vs. Obamacare, he simply repeated his same tap-dancing lines about issuing wavers (or whatever), and went back to telling us how wonderful Romneycare is, with its awesome mandates. Anyone who believes Romney is going to get rid of Obamacare is living in a dream world.

109 People who are threatening not to vote remind of my daughters when they were 2 and threatening not to breath Posted by: nevergiveup at January 27, 2012 08:05 AM


As of now, I'm planning to vote...unwillingly.

The Republicans just can't seem to pick a candidate who isn't a steaming pile. After checking out some of the crap that The Inevitable Mutt and Mr Conservative Noot spew, I would think most rational people would be ashamed of themselves for having heaped so much shit on Rick Perry.

On the other hand, there's the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure. Four more years of him will be more than the nation can survive. Unless you like living under a lying, law-breaking totalitarian communist, that is.

I don't. Apparently, Michelle Malkin does. She's continuing to express her total revulsion with any Republican candidates, while never connecting the dots about the Traitor-in-Chief. That will end when we elect President Malkin, I'm sure.

110 I had the discussion of why our national candidates suck last month at a pub in England of all places.

My theory is the while the Tea Party brought some really strong people into politics like Rubio and Rand Paul, it takes a few cycles for them to get established.  What we are getting is the best of what we had prior to the Tea Party, so naturally they don't rise to our expectations.

We will start seeing much better candidates in the House and Senate this year and the next few cycles, then if we keep insisting on quality see another great President in 2020.

111

Romney won as far as he came off more conservative then before, I believe solidified his lead in FL, and finally showed us some fight. Maybe that new debate coach did it for him. He took some serious misteps like being caught in a lie, mistiming his shot at Santorums angry image during a Romneycare exchange, and he still hasnt refine his Romneycare answer good enough. In the end though he was mor fiesty and its good to see that. If hes the nom, I think Newt pushing him may have helped to give us a more fiesty Mitt.

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Newt was erratic. He was all for personal attacks but once Santorum dressed him and Mitt down he was suddenly offended at the personal attacks questions, wtf? He didnt own the debate like he has in the past.

 

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Santorum did GREAT on substance, but once again his angry image gets in the way. Even though he mis-timed it, Romneys hit on Santorums angry image was cheered by some which tells you its a problem. He really needs to find his happy warrior and stop looking like hes gonna pop a blood vessel. Also he stuttered so fucking bad on that Puerto Rico question, not a big issue but as a Puerto Rican myself I was dissapointed to see the one question about it dissolve into a stuttering Santorum reply.

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and finally Lupa Nor. No man tried so hard to lose the cuban vote tonight.

112 Romney described his immigration policy, which seemed reasonable. Newt immediately attacked him for wanting to deport grandmothers. The problem was that Romney had specifically said that he wouldn't hunt people down and toss them out. He said that employment law enforcement would gradually "self-deport" the illegals. *** Remember when Mitt said Perry was trying to kill Grandma, even after Perry explicitly said he wouldn't go after current seniors' benefits? Sounds like he's getting a taste if his own medicine.

113 Did anyone catch Obama saying shit about the Navy and nuclear power during his SOTU? It was a weird passing comment. Posted by: dagny at January 27, 2012 08:12 AM (w+PM What did he say? Are we going to replace nuclear reactors with prisoners rowing again?

114 Apparently, Michelle Malkin does. She's continuing to express her total revulsion with any Republican candidates, while never connecting the dots about the Traitor-in-Chief.

I heard Hannity really nailed her on that the other night too.

115 Posted by: dagny at January 27, 2012 08:10 AM (w+PM
Why is that I keep thinking that "our" candidates should be smart and disciplined enough to do a variation on the FYNQ approach and answer EVERY MSM question with a flat-out attack on Obama, socialism, the welfare state, the national debt, wealth redistribution, or unemployment?


I guess if  the candidates aren't living up to my expectations, I need to lower my expectations (although drinking heavily may be a more restful alternative)!

116 My wife is half-Puerto Rican and she's pissed off that there is no focus on either party at addressing the issue of Statehood for Puerto Rico. She is a staunch Romney supporter anyways and did work on his campaign in 2008. The other Republican candidates unlike Romney consistently blows off the hispanics.

117 121 until you've seen Ramming Speed close up, don't knock it.

118 It's too bad all F&F gives you in the morning are debates about giving little kids soccer trophies even if they lost, and 3 hosts reading talking points into the camera. It gives Scarborough a virtual monopoly on real and important discussion, dominated by libs, natch. Mika is great eye candy, but she is one of those utterly in-the-tank self-righteous holier-than-thou Lefty partisans,to such an appalling degree you realize half the fun of doinking her wrinkled brownie would be working off the grudge.

119 Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:16 AM (et2m1)

No offense, but nobody gives a shit about Puerto Rican statehood. It's a non-issue.

120 "Florida is not winner take all." Yes it is. I know despite your name, google search & new search doesn't fail me to point out this

No its not.

HERE FOLLOWS THE SUMMARY:

Our full allotment of delegates is: 99

After the three officers are removed our base becomes: 96

Cutting us as the penalty, we get only: 48

The rules require proportional allocation of delegates as follows – Example:

Candidate “A” gets 30% of the vote would get 14 delegatesCandidate “B” gets 20% of the vote would get 10 delegatesCandidate “C” gets 15% of the vote would get 7 delegatesCandidate “D” gets 10% of the vote would get 5 delegates
And so on until the 48 delegates are gone.

The rules as adopted by the RPOF do not define proportionality – thus the RNC will decide on our definition of proportionality for us. The RNC is on record stating that they will honor the rules of state parties if proportionality is limited to state wide at large delegates. They indicated the Congressional Districts could still be awarded on a winner-take-all basis. The RPOF did not choose to define proportionality at all.

121 Mitt can't and won't be able to distinguish himself from Obama on this subject. Posted by: BurtTC
...........
True.. But he has promised to repeal it.  Good enuff.

122

Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:16 AM (et2m1)

amen to that. im Puerto Rican and was dissapointed that Fortuno wasnt talked about when they talked about Hispanic Republican leaders. Then they gave the question of statehood to Santorum who utterly stuttered his way through it.

123 Obama and Nuclear Power are contradictory. Obama and the Democrats loves the shit out of the Sierra Club since it's very very influential in the People's Republic of California. So any idea of expanding nuclear power by Obama is a bunch of hot air and will be subjected to NIMBYism anyways.

124

FirstEnergy
Corp. says it will shut six older, coal-fired power plants in Ohio,
Pennsylvania and Maryland, affecting about 530 employees.

 

"Affecting"?  I bet they mean those guys all got raises.

125 "No offense, but nobody gives a shit about Puerto Rican statehood. It's a non-issue." 4 million Americans do.

126

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 08:18 AM (nEUpB)

I care about it and so do many Puerto Ricans who live in the states, it's not a major issue right now but don't just toss it out because it's not one on your docket

127 133 Now they have Green Jobs. No driving to work or heat in the house or lights and all the shit humans do to ruin the planet for Obama.

128 It's the equivalent of saying no one gives a shit what Nebraska do. It's a non-issue anyways! Let's throw out all the states out of the union that has less than 4 million Americans. Then we'd end up electing Democratic presidents for life anyways.

129 Surely Mitt repudiated Coleman and didnt just repeat his talking point. I looked around teh Web and there is nothing about Coleman leaving the Romney campaign. Hope it wasnt a trial balloon by Romney that Norm floated.

130 I guess I better bookmark that link, since I seem to have to explain the Florida proportional situation every day.

Everyone is confused because in 2008 we were winner take all, but the RNC changed the rules this year.  No winner take all states before April 1 (as Vic pointed out yesterday).

131 119 - You thought they were cheering Romney? On the angry line?? I heard more audible gasps. It was Romney's "heartless" moment, where he showed he's out of touch on this issue. People are angry, Santorum wouldn't back down, and Romney acted like it was his role to tell Santorum (meaning us... as with Perry's "heartless" comment) that we shouldn't be angry. Bad, bad move.

132 Gee, when Obama talked about Solyndra and energy, Solyndra went bankrupt.  So if Obama talked about the Navy and nuclear power, then ...

133 @125: after his recent pronouncements, why on Luna would anyone believe Newt would repeal Obamacare?

134 "eh - not really. if you look at the various referenda that Puerto Rico has held on the matter, statehood and independence haven't received a majority vote. It's always "continuation of the status quo". PR statehood is a minority position even in PR." Wrong. Statehood is on the rise and getting more and more popular in Puerto Rico. The problem is that they've not had a referendum in Puerto Rico in over a decade.

135 Gingrich seems to be engaged in a battle of one-upmanship...with himself.

136 >>It's the equivalent of saying no one gives a shit what Nebraska do.<<

When's the last time you or your wife personally gave a shit about Nebraska?

(Me, it was when Ben Nelson got heckled out of a pizza joint after he voted for Obamacare. Heh.)

137 94 Robert Hegyes dead? That's so weird, I was just thinking about him the other day...

Posted by: nickless at January 27, 2012 08:05 AM (MMC8rl

Please don't think about me.  I would like to live a bit longer!

138

Puerto Rico as a state?  Absurd.  We'd be better of granting them independence (in the long run they might be better off too).  I assure you it will never happen if they're given the option - that island is on the welfare gravy train.  

Giving them more representation would be to grant the Democrats greater control. 

139

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2012 08:21 AM (7FadD)

I think your confusing wanting to talk about the issue with what is the result we want from it. and btw while it is true that Puerto Ricans have chosen to keep themselves a commonwealth territory, the position of pro-statehood has gained momentum and the support for it has gone up since the 1960s in the Island.

140 Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:23 AM (et2m1)

Sort of like the EU--"Keep voting until you get it right!".

141 @141: as I remember it, Mitt was talking about the MA healthcare plan when he said it, and he was basically telling Santorum - who was overdoing the pitbull schtick a bit too much at that moment - to calm down. The Morning Joe talking heads are totally ignoring that incident this morning; let it go.

142 See I don't get it when people claim that Mitt won't repeal ObamaCare. He has said it over and over and over and over again that he will.

Yeah, I saw him say it last night at one of his campaign stops that was on the local news.

I agree that his credibility on this issue is low and makes it a tough general election issue.  But he has clearly made the promise to repeal it, which is more than before where he said 50 state exemptions on Day 1.

143 "Sort of like the EU--"Keep voting until you get it right!"." The last referendum failed by less than 4% with 50% of the population not bothering to vote for ANY of the choices listed including the territorial commonwealth option which they are one now. They did get it right but they had to require simple majority. How is this different from our Senate where senators who propose their own bill can vote against it to bring it up over and over again to try try again.

144 Today is International Holocaust Remembrance Day.  I expect no statements or gestures from the SCOAMF, even though his typical white uncle did single-handedly liberate Auschwitz before going crazy and being locked up in the attic for years, or however his story went.

145

Posted by: Reactionary at January 27, 2012 08:24 AM (xUM1Q)

bullshit. Ive debated this back when everyone was freaking out about this back in 2009. Puerto Rico is not the Democrat solid support folks want to think it is, as a matter fof fact Hispanic Democrats have been busting their ass to not give Puerto Rico statehood. And lets go ahead and say they are a solid blue region, how does that keep them joining the Union via statehood? because we don't like how they vote? well damn let's expell Hawaii as well

146 Chemjeff, what percentage of Mitts support is hinged on the chance that he will fight to repeal Obamacare? Hint; a shitload less than his support for not being Obama. Personally I dont think he will run with a total repeal, just as Coleman said.

147 Posted by: Reactionary at January 27, 2012 08:24 AM (xUM1Q)
I may be wrong, but I always felt that PR had carved out a special caste of citizenship for themselves and weren't about to lose the perks by voting them away.

148

Yay. Another Kill Bill movie. Because the first two didn't suck enough.

 

Tarantino's only decent movie was True Romance.

149 Months ago I started calling this GOP Primary process a Charade mainly out of frustration with the candidates.
After the last several debates it appears clear that I inadvertently stumbled on to the truth as is my habit.

I lasted an hour, but Wolfie just pissed me off way passed the point of proper health maintenance.



Niedermeyer, I looked for you in the audience last night but it seems you've largely exaggerated your nic.

150 See, Romny got a new debate coach.  So he looked like a different Mitt again. 

As I watch MSNBC really really really really really push romney, it just makes you a little uncomfortable.

They are saying the crowd was "pro romney".

Last night I heard someone say that the fact that all the next bunch of primaries favor romney, by design.  How stupid I felt.  Who knew that the connections of the romney people with the state people would allow them to manipulate the primary.  The guy who said this was Dick Morris.

Santorum was Santorum only he got a chance to actually speak without being treated like he didn't belong.  I wonder if the voters will appreciate consistency.

MSNBC is saying that Newt never showed up as romney was able to trounce him right away and make him cower.   They are also saying that the attacks from republicans of all stripes all week had its effect on newt.  I think maybe newt might have been offended that he was being portrayed as sort of an empty suit whose only skill was debating.  Every answer he gave was like a teaching moment.  Either people will appreciate this or not.

A good friend has always said that BO wants to run against mitt.  He's said "he's prepared to run against mitt and he will get his way".  He's pretty confident that mitt will be the nominee because of this.  I've argued that the people are voting and he just can't be that confident as you never know.  He's not backing down as he says "they want to run against romney, he's the most beatable and they are going to run against him, you'll see"  To me, that is a frightening thought but yet I watched what happened the last time with McCain. The more he says this, the happier he gets the more I think that this election is going to result in such a rift in the republican party that it won't be reparable.

Ron Paul has some sense of humor.

They are saying gingrich never showed up. 

151

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2012 08:21 AM (Gc/Qi)

now they were cheering the angry guy slam, even jeffB was stunned that he heard some cheers for that. folks arent fans of the angry guy whos gonna pop a blood vessel act santorums doing.

152 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:18 AM (yAor6)

Besides, I thought that Puerto Rico was a colony of Mexico!

153 "I may be wrong, but I always felt that PR had carved out a special caste of citizenship for themselves and weren't about to lose the perks by voting them away." They don't. They want full citizenship and they are the vehemently most patriotic people in this country including my wife.

154 I expect no statements or gestures from the SCOAMF, even though his typical white uncle did single-handedly liberate Auschwitz before going crazy and being locked up in the attic for years, or however his story went.

Didn't he also have sex with Frank Marshall Davis?

155 i was astounded at the question of asking about wives. srsly was that asked of Obama , what she brings to the table? besides her angry scowl?
what does my wife bring , "The first time in my adult life i'm proud of my country"

otherwise the debate stunk, questions to keep the candidates at eachother than dealing with issues that need answers.

156 131 - Nonsense again. Santorum said it was up to Puerto Ricans, and he takes no position on it. He didn't fumble the question, unless you expect the President to dictate terms to Puerto Ricans. When Wolf tried to press him on it, saying he needed an answer, Santorum gave him an answer: it's not my decision to tell them what to do. And he talked at length about the Governor.

157 The only thing I remember Obama saying about the Navy is that they will buy enough clean energy to power half a million homes.  (He didn't say where those homes would be located.)  He also said it wouldn't cost the taxpayers a dime.  (That's how he phrased it in Denver yesterday.)

158 Who would play Bill in Bill 3? Carradine is all strung out. On the other hand, watching a sword fight between Uma and Hannah Daryl with no eyes would be worth a giggle or two.

159 Luis Fortuño is a Republican and he is the current Governor of Puerto Rico. He won despite Obama running for President in the same year where Democratic Governors were winning off the coattails of Obama everywhere else.

160 ****....I don't. Apparently, Michelle Malkin does. She's continuing to express her total revulsion with any Republican candidates, while never connecting the dots about the Traitor-in-Chief. That will end when we elect President Malkin, I'm sure.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 27, 2012 08:13 AM (tkd/a)****

******************************************

Malkin is schizophrenic due to her years at Oberlin College, that bastion of over-the-top leftism.

161 Tarantino's only decent movie was True Romance.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff is hung like David Carradine at January 27, 2012 08:27 AM (mOyDx)

Certainly his best, and he didn't direct it; he only wrote it. (I did like Inglorious Basterds)

Tarantino may be the most overrated director in Hollywood.

162 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

163 Personally I dont think he will run with a total repeal, just as Coleman said.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 27, 2012 08:26 AM (Z4nDk)

I think we can expect Mittens to grow in office and decide that Obamacare can't simply be repealed (or waivered) until a comprehensive study of the problem has been conducted.  Until the study is completed, the best thing to do is let Obamacare proceed until it can be replaced by the Oromneycare legislation (based on the MA healthcare program that is so beloved by the liberals in MA).

164

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2012 08:29 AM (Gc/Qi)

I never said I disagreed with sweatervest' answer or he didnt talk about Fortuno. But when they were asked about Hispanic Leaders in the Republican party no one mentioned him until the question on Puerto Rico came up. Santorum stuttered all throughout his answer.

165 From the sidebar: It is probably worth noting that donating to Democrats in the 90s is not disqualifing. Perry was a Dem in the 90s and it didn't seem to matter.

166
Tarantino's only decent movie was True Romance.

Are you kidding? Pulp Fiction is his best by far. He has been trying to remake it ever since.

167 Look, there probably are - alas - certain things that will likely never be repealed, like "kids" being covered until age 26... and we all know why. What we need repealed are: 1. Death panels - any government role in deciding what procedures may or may not be performed. 2. The ban on doctors owning hospitals - gross violation of our right to the Pursuit of Happiness, which is self-evident. 3. Covering additional millions with government funds. 4. No new federal bureaucracies. 5. Obama's insurance "exchanges." We replace all of the above with completely open competition across state lines by insurers willing to offer ANY plan they want.

168 The only thing I remember Obama saying about the Navy is that they will buy enough clean energy to power half a million homes. (He didn't say where those homes would be located.) He also said it wouldn't cost the taxpayers a dime. (That's how he phrased it in Denver yesterday.) Posted by: Nash Rambler at January 27, 2012 08:30 AM (oxgwp) Wouldn't cost the taxpayers a dime? Who does he think Funds the Navy? And last I looked , clean energy(?) costs way more than any other energy?

169 Florida is not winner take all.


*****
Dave, you're correct in that it usually isn't. It's a new development that came about in the process of punishing the state for holding an early primary. Also, they are stripping away half the total number of delegates.

170 152 - Oh, the morning joe guys say let it go? I guess I need to learn when to shut up, if the morning joe guys tell me to. You Romney cheerleaders are insufferable. Fine, his feces smell like roses. You win. Good luck with that.

171 It's not my damn point. The idea that we should be ignoring 4 million Americans who are vehemently Patriotic and overwhelmingly vote conservative is absurd to do so. The Republican Candidates should be embracing Puerto Rico's push for statehood as they've been trying to do for years. Instead we got idiots in the Republican Party ignoring them as if they don't exist. The Democrats do not want Puerto Rico to become a state because it threatens their electoral chances of keeping the Presidency.

172 178 - So he didn't pander enough for you taste. Got it.

173 Grim

Perry *was* a Dim, but he's since *actually governed as a Republican*.  Romney, not so much.

174 Niedermeyer, I looked for you in the audience last night but it seems you've largely exaggerated your nic.


****
What? You didn't see the flies circling the cute fat girl that open up the questioning?

175 Libya's regular army and array of militias have been torturing loyalists of slain dictator Moamer Kadhafi, several of whom have been killed in custody, human rights groups charged on Thursday. Amnesty International said that despite promises, Libya's new rulers have made "no progress to stop the use of torture", as Doctors Without Borders suspended its work in the third-largest city Misrata over similar claims. Their accusations come after a top UN official raised concerns that militias composed of former rebels who helped topple Kadhafi were posing an increasing security risk as they repeatedly clashed with each other. "Several detainees have died after being subjected to torture in Libya in recent weeks and months amid widespread torture and ill-treatment of suspected pro-Kadhafi fighters and loyalists," London-based Amnesty said in a statement. McCain and obama's pals ha?

176 oh and Santorums answer about the wife leaving a carrer behind after marriage? WTF? the guy plays into the image of an angry guy who keeps his wife in the Kitchen and forces the kids to go to church. Im sure hes not, im sure hes a good man, but he plays into that image so well its scary

177 @184: oh for God's sakw, all I'm saying is the Morning Joe anti-republican guys are utterly ignoring what you keep harping on is somehow a devastating moment for Romney - when all he was doing was telling Santorum to calm down, and he wasn't even talking about Obamacare when he said it. The Left doesn't see it as the Great Gift to Them you insist it is. Because it wasn't.

178 @125 See I don't get it when people claim that Mitt won't repeal ObamaCare.

---
I guess that I'm just the kind of person who goes with the first things out of a politician's mouth being true and subsequent "clarifications", "adjustments" and "revise and extend" as lying because the realize that their true belief's are not what the people they have to fool want to here.

The first thing that Mittens said about Obamacare were that he didn't want to repeal it, he wanted to repair it.

He also said that he didn't want to repeal it, he wanted to grant each state a waiver so that (if they wanted to) they could not be forced into Obamacare.  Unfortunately, Mitten's solution here would not stop the Feds from continuing implementation and also would not stop him, or a future president of eliminating the waivers.

He has also said this campaign cycle that he is proud of what he did with Romneycare in MA.


So, someone on his staff was smart enough to tell him to SAY that he will repeal obamacare, but is that a current core belief?




Now, can people change over time?  Sure, I do not have all of the same beliefs that I did 20 of 30 years ago.  New facts, conditions change, acceptance that I was younger & dumber.  But I am substantially the same person as I was in early December 2011

In early December 2011Mittens was praising obamacare as something that just needed to be improved, not eliminated.

179

Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2012 08:36 AM (Gc/Qi)

no, he stuttered through it instead of just spitting out an answer. I liked his answer but he stuttered through it. like most of Perry's answers. there is no pandering here, I just happen to care about an issue more then you. No need to get mad little buddy becase sweatervest is doing so bad

180

when all he was doing was telling Santorum to calm down, and he wasn't even talking about Obamacare when he said it.

+1

181 oh and Santorums answer about the wife leaving a carrer behind after marriage? WTF? the guy plays into the image of an angry guy who keeps his wife in the Kitchen and forces the kids to go to church. Im sure hes not, im sure hes a good man, but he plays into that image so well its scary

****

Not to me. He sounded like a man in awe of his wife.

182 185  overwhelmingly vote conservative

Is that really true?  Real question.

183 191 - I think "the left" is on your side on this, in that they want to see Romney nominated. They're salivating at being able to use that line against him in the general. There's no distinction between Mitt and Obama on healthcare. Deal with it.

184 @pep, Yes.

185 when all he was doing was telling Santorum to calm down, and he wasn't even talking about Obamacare when he said it.
+1

****
Santorum resorted, about halfway through the debate, to mumbling to himself and making faces. He managed to keep it together for about a full half of the debate. He sounded strong, but he looked weak.

186

Posted by: pep at January 27, 2012 08:39 AM (YXmuI)

Puerto Ricans are swing voters but are idelogically conservative

187 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 08:34 AM (niZvt)

Agreed. Competition is a beautiful thing, and has never increased costs.

But...we have no right to the pursuit of happiness. That's in the Declaration of Independence, which has no force of law.

188 NBC's broadcast on the Today show this morning did everything but digitally put horns on Gingrich's pictures. These guys are terrified of Newt and want desperately to run against Mittens.

They had an investigative reporter tell us that Newt's financial support comes from a JOOO in Las Vegas who is a big supporter of (wait for it) ISRAEL and an enemy of Unions. A F*king investigative reporter to tell us where Newt's money is coming from - like it is Fast and Furious with 300 felony murders they're investigating. Ass wipes.
 
If this isn't enough to tell everyone Newt has the Obama campaign pissing on its feet nothing is.

189 Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2012 08:40 AM (Gc/Qi) Romney is the only who polls to even give Obam,a a fight - deal with it, go and nominate mr lose by 18 points or mr majority have unfavorable view of im and see if that helps vs Obama. oh and spare me the polls dont matter crap

190 "Look, there probably are - alas - certain things that will likely never be repealed, like "kids" being covered until age 26... and we all know why. "

Bullshit.

First off, most parents aren't actually on board with covering their "kids" until age 26.

Second, it's the "popular" stuff that is the most poisonous.  Pre-existing conditions, for example.  It must all be removed.  And, given that over 50% (last I heard it was still near 60%, but I haven't seen anything all that recent), want to see the thing repealed, I don't think we need to play this game at all.

If we _do_ then the correct answer is to say, "Look there's so much crap here, and it's so interconnected, that the only thing we can do is repeal it.  Then we'll go and look at what parts actually made sense and enact those each separately."

And, again, I don't think we need to play the game.  I think we can simply say, "This thing was passed over the overwhelming objections of the American people, it will inevitably increase costs for the government, insurers, and patients, while simultaneously decreasing compensation for hospitals and medical staff.  It must be repealed."  And I bet you'll get close to 60% of the nation that agrees with you.

191 Puerto Rico politics is somewhat complicated because it's their own politics that have been separate from national politics since they can't participate in it anyways. The governors whether it be liberal or conservatives do actually have the best intentions for their own territory / "state" unlike Democratic governors just wanting to fuck over people's lives.

192 "I think you are being optimistic about PR becoming a red state. It would be a swing state at best." Like Alaska or Utah is a swing state at best?

193 193 - Whatever. I should know better than to try and argue with a Romney cheerleader. Yeesh, I have better things to do with my time.

194 how does that keep them joining the Union via statehood? because we don't like how they vote? well damn let's expell Hawaii as well

Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:26 AM (yAor6)

 

If I could expell Hawaii I would.  Alas, that's a done deal.  The place should never have been more than a colony, in my opinion.  A VERY NICE colony, but still. 

Tell you what - promise me that we will not have to add a 51st star to Old Glory, and I'll go along.  Otherwise, no deal. 

 

 

195 Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:44 AM (et2m1)

Are you seriously suggesting that PR is as conservative as Utah?

196 As a state NY has the kids covered until 26 thing.  It has been the saving grace for a lot of my friends who are working two or three part time jobs after having lost their really good job. But seriously the state did that not the federal government.  If you disagree with it, you can move to jersey where Christie has cut taxes across the board.

But really stuff like healthcare belongs as a state decision, not a federal one.

197 Kaitian -- I understand that you feel that the party establishment is ignoring 4 million people in PR.

Not sure why the surprise though.

They have been ignoring and smearing the 10s of millions of tea party members and conservatives for a long time too.



(BTW, I agree with your statement on the very high level of patriotism of people from the island)

198 @199: Yeah, I agree about Santorum's facial expressions. If he could control those better, it would greatly improve him as a candidate. Nevertheless... I was really impressed by his performance last night. Mitt and Rick slapped Newton around like a hockey puck; every time a verbal bitch slap came his way Newton's head seemed to jerk.

199 GDP came in at 2.8%.  Lower than expected.  Government was the big drag so says the guy on MSNBS.

200 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:41 AM (yAor6)

Self interest will often trump ideology. I wouldn't count on Puerto Rico being a solid Republican voting bloc.

201 Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2012 08:44 AM (Gc/Qi) im not a Romney cheerleader, sorry to burst your bubble that your Romney Derangment Syndrome has effected you to hate everything Romney. I flirted w/ backing every candidate but always went back to Perry, he dropped out and now im pushing for the guy wholl win. Ive lambasted some Romneybots on here and have said Id vote for the nominee even if its sweatervest who's image I hate with passion. Romney is my #2 choice. A lot of folks said he was their #2 guy as well when they backed Perry and now that Perrys out theyre still bitching about him. Guess you cant screw up the meme that Romney is the antichrist

202 Are you seriously suggesting that PR is as conservative as Utah? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 08:45 AM (nEUpB) I'll bet you socially they are. Things like "gay marriage" and cross-dresser rights only appeal to certain white liberals.

203 "Are you seriously suggesting that PR is as conservative as Utah?"

Maybe not quite that conservative, but my guess is that it's pretty darn close.  I know several Puerto Ricans, and about the only reason they're not rabid Republicans is that the Republicans largely ignore Puerto Rico- which means they get all their "facts" from Democrats and democrat leaning sources.

Once they actually get here and have a chance to look around, they get disillusioned by the Democrats really dang quickly.

204 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 08:48 AM (nEUpB) neither would I but they'd be much more of a swing state and more willing to vote GOP then say, New York or California

205

Sure. Make Puerto Rico a state. They're not even Americans ferchrissake. We're trying to get rid of illegal immigrants. I fail to see how making citizens out of millions of saltwater Mexicans is the answer.

206

Posted by: Reactionary at January 27, 2012 08:45 AM (xUM1Q)

fuck that

207 Posted by: Empire of Jeff is hung like David Carradine at January 27, 2012 08:49 AM (mOyDx) saltwater mexicans? really?

208 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 08:48 AM (niZvt)

Ah, so if they are socially conservative that will translate into conservative votring tendencies on all other issues?

American Blacks tend to be socially conservative with respect to gay marriage. So I can expect them to vote for the Republican presidential candidate?

209 "That is the same thing as "not repealing all of ObamaCare." You are just complaining about process here. You want 100% repeal and then restore the 2% that people actually want, while I'm saying just repeal 98% of it. There is no substantive difference."

How about you go back and read the whole comment, then tell me what I want to do?

I want it all gone.  All of it.  All I'm saying is _if_ you take the position (with which I disagree- but it's not an uncommon one) that some parts are "too popular" to repeal, the answer to that is easy: tell people you have to repeal it all, and then you'll look at adding things back one at a time.

That doesn't mean you actually have to put anything back, by the way.  Politicians lie- at least this one would be used for something good.

210 #223 All Puerto Ricans are already American citizens.

211 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 27, 2012 08:51 AM (8y9MW)

Allen, our spineless betters never repeal anything outright!

212 #223 All Puerto Ricans are already American citizens.

Posted by: lael at January 27, 2012 08:51 AM (KHapD)

*waves hands* exactly!

213 I'm white as hell as in Heil Hitler white and I love my wife very dearly which she's so frustrated at both parties. The democrat's solution has been to include Puerto Rico into their primary system in order to convince them that they are very important and better off anyways without statehood. I rather piss in the Democrat's cereal and allow statehood for Puerto Rico. The problem is we also got a bunch of idiots from the South going "My ma says we don't need no stinking spics trying to make us speak Latin!" The idea of English also being a national language is still a dumb idea and we should always demonstrate that we are a melting pot first rather than worrying about what language we speak. Unlike Canada, we don't force businesses to comply with speaking certain languages. If businesses don't want to sell to Latinos, then that's their damn loss and if they do, great.

214 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:50 AM (yAor6)

Come on, that was funny.

215 I missed last night's debate ( thanks G-D) since it was my daughter's birthday, but how the fuck is PR StateHood all of a sudden being talked about?

216 "Allen, our spineless betters never repeal anything outright!"

*sigh*  I wish I disagreed with you.

217 Actually, there seem to be 3 types of Puerto Ricans on the subject of statehood: 1. Fierce nationalists that might go violent if it happens, 2. Those that don't care much, 3. Those just fine with PR becoming a state - and that is a surprisingly large group. Thing is, I would not give PR statehood until they resolve the differences between the first and last groups.

218 Romney is the only who polls to even give Obam,a a fight - deal with it, go and nominate mr lose by 18 points or mr majority have unfavorable view of im and see if that helps vs Obama. oh and spare me the polls dont matter crap Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:42 AM (yAor6) You mean Mr. 26% with the base? That guy? Yeah, good luck.

219 " Unlike Canada, we don't force businesses to comply with speaking certain languages. If businesses don't want to sell to Latinos, then that's their damn loss and if they do, great."


Ahem.

220 From the sidebar:  There are some cllephone using numbskulls I'd like to declare war criminals, too

221 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 08:52 AM (nEUpB) if it was meant a s ajoke then yeah but if he has some beef with Puerto Ricans im gonna get uptight like a Santorum rant. Im seen too much intolerance towards Latinos from my party to just stay silent.

222 Tarantino could pump up his box office numbers if he enlisted that Russian chick band, Pussy Riot, to do bits of his soundtrack, - once they're released from the gulag.

223 "The idea of English also being a national language is still a dumb idea and we should always demonstrate that we are a melting pot first rather than worrying about what language we speak."

Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:52 AM (et2m1)

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the melting pot was.

Come to America!

1. Learn English and the social mores of the country

2. Become a citizen

3. Renounce loyalty to country of origin

4. Live the American dream

224

Posted by: TendStl at January 27, 2012 08:53 AM (kjCtb)

ha! wait until he wins FL w/ more then 26%, I gurantee it. and btw when your folks start polling better against Obama then maybe ill believe they can beat him

225 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:55 AM (yAor6)

Go eat a taco. ;-)

226 233 I missed last night's debate ( thanks G-D) since it was my daughter's birthday, but how the fuck is PR StateHood all of a sudden being talked about?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 27, 2012 08:52 AM (i6RpT)

PR statehood, CUBA!, the moon, which wife would be the best first lady, medical records of the candidates, .....all really, really important topics.  Alas, they didn't even touch on Teri Schiavo.

Mornin' 'rons.

227 Gee I just saw a Chevy Volt commercial on FOX. Are they shitting me? "The car we had to build"?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 27, 2012 07:32 AM (i6RpT)

Depends on what the phrase "we had to build" means doesn't it? As in a Soviet style "we had to build".

228 "Thing is, I would not give PR statehood until they resolve the differences between the first and last groups. " The last result of the last referendum in 1998 was 46.6% Yes, 2.6% Independence, 0.3% FA, 0.0% Territorial Commonwealth, 50.5% WE FUCKING FORGOT TO VOTE THIS PART SO WE DON'T COUNT AS ANYTHING EXCEPT FUCKING OVER THIS REFERENDUM. In other words, the Independence crowd are overwhelmingly outnumbered by the Statehood crowd. Your logic is that we should always settle with the socialist & communists in the Democratic Party because there will always be a couple rotten apples we must deal with first.

229 I am getting really tired of the formatting problem. What the hell are we paying for with our membership fees?

230 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 08:56 AM (nEUpB) now that was funny, but I hateTacos

231 seriously when will this html crap be fixed

232 "You mean Mr. 26% with the base? That guy? Yeah, good luck."

Okay- some Romney supporter explain this to me.

You know- know with absolute certainty- that only about 1/4 of the base wants anything to do with Mitt Romney.  Yet, instead of looking at Mitt Romney and saying, "Yeah, he's flawed here and here.  Hey, Mitt, maybe you want to throw a bone to conservatives, every now and again.  Oh, and acknowledge your flaws and explain to us why we shouldn't be worried," or even explaining to us who detest the man why you already aren't worried and why we shouldn't be either- you blame us for wanting someone else.  Why?

Oh- and before you say "Conservative Congress"- I'm pre-throwing the bullshit flag on that.  Congress won't move any president to the Right.  The President will need to pull Congress to the Right.

233 226 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 08:48 AM (niZvt) Ah, so if they are socially conservative that will translate into conservative votring tendencies on all other issues? American Blacks tend to be socially conservative with respect to gay marriage. So I can expect them to vote for the Republican presidential candidate? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 08:50 AM (nEUpB) No, and that would be another legitimate argument against PR statehood. I wasn't saying they are natural Republicans. That is one of the crimes of the Welfare State: in the past, immigrants started out poor and worked harder to get into the middle class. Now, newcomers and some minorities start out poor and get on welfare to stay that way... becoming reliable Democrats.

234 I said last week after SC that Mitt was inevitable, too much money. But like DrewM said on twitter last night, on election night I will be in a bar laughing.

235 Posted by: nevergiveup at January 27, 2012 08:52 AM (i6RpT)

Who the hell knows?

Some greasers upthread started it. I think we should just return the damned island to Mexico and be done with it.

236 it seems a lot of you folks forget that its the FLORIDA primary

237

My wife is Hispanic.  I do see some bias against her.  But it's all from elite, effete, snobby pseudointellectuals who think she's the help; or government officials who start in speaking to her in Spanish.

 

Normal people, and espcially anyone under 35, nobody treats her any differently than they treat (caucasian) me.

238 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)

QED

239 Posted by: Typical troublemaking moron at January 27, 2012 08:58 AM (nEUpB) PR isnt even originally from Mexico

240 The idea of English also being a national language is still a dumb idea and we should always demonstrate that we are a melting pot first rather than worrying about what language we speak. Unlike Canada, we don't force businesses to comply with speaking certain languages. If businesses don't want to sell to Latinos, then that's their damn loss and if they do, great.

Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:52 AM (et2m1)

 

This issue isn't whether business should be allowed to operate in Spanish.  The bigger issue is whether the government will be bi-lingual.  That's a BAD idea.  English is the dominant language.  It is also the international language, and no other will change that for at least 100 years, if ever.  All government activity should be English only.  It is not in our interest to subsidize those who refuse to communicate in it.

But more important than that, the melting pot concept worked for as long as the foundational American cultural norms, which is to say Northern European and chiefly Anglo-Saxon norms, remained dominant.  Language is a key determiner of culture, because it heavily influences what ideas one is exposed to.  Maintaining English as the primary, official language helps preserve that culture.  Allowing our culture to deviate from that has done ZERO good, and much ill.  Why encourage a greater balkanization of the US? 

 

241 247 I am getting really tired of the formatting problem. What the hell are we paying for with our membership fees? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 08:57 AM (nEUpB) I think the weekly Stripper Body Sushi Nights are great!

242 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:57 AM (yAor6)

Try hitting enter twice for each line break. Other than that, I have no other workarounds.

243

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 27, 2012 08:58 AM (8y9MW)

so we lose the election w/ Santorum and Newt?

244 Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 08:52 AM (et2m1)


I disagree with you here, English should be the go to language in the USA

245 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:59 AM (yAor6)


Well, I learned one thing today. Puerto Ricans have no sense of humor! ;-)

246 I tend to think the -using the phrase employed here- backlash Frankenstein- was so rotten and so intense and so journalist- y coordinated on the right, no less....that it got to him. Threw him totally off his stride. That is one of Newts weaknesses...he lacks discipline enough that he reacts to that. mitt also had a day or too of off balance when his coronation throne broke a leg off. Mitt, however, was gliding through last night, doing great when he shot himself in the chest and bled out. "Not worth getting angry about." That's it right there .... Ocare and Romney in a single phrase that tells me everything I need to know. He must be stopped. I don't care if I have to go to the moon to do it.

247

223 All Puerto Ricans are already American citizens. <<<

 

Nonsense. That's why we require them to hang Puerto Rican flags from their rearview mirrors. It's like a visa.

248   56 Did Romney repudiate his campaign advisor and possible HHS Secretary
nominee Norm Coleman's statement that Obamacare won't be totally
repealsed if Romney wins the White House?

*****
He said forcefully and repeatedly that he will REPEAL Obamacare.
And you bought it, I suppose?  He also said forcefully and repeatedly that Romneycare was a great program of which he is proud. I hope you at least got a dinner before Mutt did sex to you.

249 Re PR statehood - does that mean we also need to give the people of Guam, or the US Virgin Islands the same consideration?  Do they, too, get a plebicite to determine their status? 

250 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 08:59 AM (niZvt)

All that Ewok fur screws up the sushi.

251

 the economy grew at a 0.8% pace ex inventories.

Not so good.

252 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 09:01 AM (nEUpB)

<br>
ok im sorry guys, I guess I always have these JeffB type meltdowns over sweatervest Santorum and anything pertaining to Latinos. It just that Ive seen some intolerance towards my folks and our culture and it comes from the party I vote for. So I tend to get uptight about it

253 FNC showing something that Martha McCallum actually called "highlights" from last nights debate.

WTF?

No wonder the urge watch this channel is far less frequent with each passing day.

254 . The harassment stopped, but the parents claimed I threatened their kid. I said it was a conditional promise, not a threat.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at January 27, 2012 07:48 AM (phlKA)

That is correct - according to the lawyers I've talked to you could say that in open court and nothing could be done to you.

255

I only watch Fox forThe Five now.  It sucks ass.

256 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 09:01 AM (yAor6) It wasn't my point. We are fine with people that speak other languages but the issue is that I'm trying to say is that if people refuse to integrate into the majority language, they stand to lose. I am not of a different opinion than you guys are. It's like Juan jumps the border from Mexico and demands everyone speaks Spanish to him. Why the fuck should everyone do that? If he wants people to communicate with them, he should be making the effort to do so with the, not vice versa.

257 Tarantino co-wrote the SNL movie, It's Pat.

258 Donkey Punch: What Barney Frank is serving at his bridal shower, with some special help from the chefs at Fear Factor.

It's full of pwotein!

259 I was under the impression that it's up to Puerto Rico and the Puerto Ricans as to whether or not they want to vote for statehood.  I thought Santorum did a very good job of basically saying he didn't think it was the president's call.

260 And the Establishment Mittbots have moved from "he'll repeal obamacare" to "Romneycare was pretty damn awesome". Coulter was all over it last night, and conservatives that live in Mass saying "I don't have insurance but all I have to pay is like 45 bucks! So its awesome and stuff!" Are you fucking kidding me? Now we are defending socialized medicine?

261 Posted by: ambrosia at January 27, 2012 09:07 AM (oZfic) yes, and it was a good answer but he went over the river and through the woods to get there

262 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 09:03 AM (yAor6)

You call that a meltdown?

Piker.

263 261 I missed last night's debate ( thanks G-D) since it was my daughter's birthday, but how the fuck is PR StateHood all of a sudden being talked about? Because CNN, being CNN, drags out some Hispanic women that informed that she is "proudly bilingual" (to which I yawned, So What? I and my wife speak 3 languages, between the two of us) and then asked about PR statehood. I presume she was Pro-statehood. The hang up for PR statehood isn't that it would likely be an officially bi-lingual state, but that there is a large core of Puero Ricans - maybe 30% - that is vehemently nationalistic, and not in an American sort of way. Until they can accept statehood, I think giving it to PR would be a bad move for the future.

264 oh shit, I just talked to curious, fuck me over I just recieved my punishment for being a grumpy asshole this morning

265 I don't. Apparently, Michelle Malkin does. She's continuing to express her total revulsion with any Republican candidates, while never connecting the dots about the Traitor-in-Chief. That will end when we elect President Malkin, I'm sure. Michelle Malkin just wants to be able to publish another cut and paste book after this election. Principled, you know.

266 i'll redeem myself - fuck off curious

267

279--Are you fucking kidding me? Now we are defending socialized medicine?

If you are a pro-Romney Republican, you end up there sooner rather than later.

268 Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 09:07 AM (yAor6)


Dude, there's cat piss all over that comment.

Check the hash.

269 "Giifotds Please for Civility"

Ben is drunk spelling again in the sidebar

270 "so we lose the election w/ Santorum and Newt?"

Do you not realize you just did exactly the thing for which I'm requesting an explanation?

I don't believe in "electability."  That's the same argument that brought us Bob Dole and John McCain.  The simple fact of the matter is that any poll this early is inaccurate at best.  So drop that line of argument- it's a weak cop-out and you know it.

Don't tell me the other two can't win- I doubt if Santorum would (though I know he could), but I'm pretty sure Newt would win- even if in a squeaker.  But I also think that Romney only wins in a squeaker, and possibly loses- since he actively turns off a fair portion of the base.

So- give me enough positive reasons to vote for Mitt that they outweigh both his liberal governing record and Newts conservative legislative record.

271 @285: I don't even bother with Malkin's website anymore. Her weird jihad against Perry when he first announced his ill-fated run just turned me off - she was more concerned with damaging him than coming up with a viable candidate against Obama. She's irrelevant now; I don't know of anyone that cares what she thinks. She should spend more time looking for her cousin, and shut down her blog.

272 I stopped reading Michelle Malkin a long time ago. She's gotten more fringey over time but I think she also does that intentionally to sell books.

273 289 "Giifotds Please for Civility" Ben is drunk spelling again in the sidebar Posted by: wooga at January 27, 2012 09:10 AM (IhzyJ) If I was a Lefty, and I would accuse him of mocking Gabby's new speech pattern.

274

"Fox showing a video this
morning of a 13 y.o girl getting a beat down on a school bus. She wound up with a concussion. I ask you now. Who will be held accountable
for this? If you say the bus driver or the school authorities, or heaven forbid
the students you would be wrong."

My guess would be that in the final analysis, no one will really be held fully accountable.

"Being a cop" isn't written into the bus driver's job description; school authorities will do everything they can to stonewall and make this go away; and the precious kiddies who did the beatdown are juveniles who have one excuse or another for bad behavior. And typically when the kid is an a**hole, their parents are at least as bad, if not worse. 

Much easier to zero tolerance a kid for bringing an aspirin to school or something along those lines, than it is to sort through all the political implications of a beatdown and do the right thing.

275

@288 yes my meltdown caused me to not notice that. its my punishment for being a grumpy fuck this morning

276 Anyone who thinks Romneycare is awesome, go ahead and live under it. Prove to Papa Mitt you have insurance or he'll punish you. He is Capitalism incarnate.

277

@ 250 This! +1000

Mittens needs to reach out or Coulter will be proved correct. He wins the primary and loses to SCoaMF/T.

I want a candidate who doesn't force me to leave all my principles outside the voting booth.

278 My dad's old friend from medical school was a Puerto Rican. And an officer in the artillery in Korea; he saw lots of combat.

When he was in his 60s, with emphysema and other health issues, he volunteered to go to the Gulf as a combat surgeon. He came back babbling about how good the MREs were compared to the shit he ate in Korea.

I'll take Puerto Ricans like that any day.

279 297 Anyone who thinks Romneycare is awesome, go ahead and live under it. Well, after all: isn't that exactly what Mitt is saying... each state should decide, rather than have it forced on them?

280

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 27, 2012 09:11 AM (8y9MW)

I wasnt a McCain guy in 2008 because I didnt think he was electable so that wont work with me there. as for Dole, Reagan wouldnt have won in 96 with an economy like that and Clinton governing like a Republican President. if you didnt learn your lesson from the Sharron Angle and Christine ODonell debacle then I dont what will since you guys just want to keep the Romney Derangment Syndrome glasses on.

281 Cause we are on debate number 1,205,438 and we have run out of things to talk about that we have not already talked about.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at January 27, 2012 09:00 AM (OWjjx)

Disagree, we have plenty of nationally significant issues to discuss, but PR statehood is a classic "won't you step into my minefield?" issue asked by an MFM hack for the sole purpose of hoping that a minority group will wind up being upset at a Republican!

282 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 09:11 AM (niZvt)


Her commenters seem like LGF loons. Everything is laudatory. It makes me want to puke.

I wonder if she's good in the sack?

283

Mendez is still pissed that we had to drop a couple of atom bombs on Puerto Rico in WW II.

 

Shouldn't have attacked Pearl Harbor, then Mendez. Or killed Tony with a zip gun.

284 So the master debater didn't get it done last night, eh? What a shocker, he's usually the very model of reliability. He's got this weekend worth of media and appearances to try to capitalize on his SC win or I think he slides back to his natural sub-Paul numbers.

285 @292: well, that's what I was saying. We don't need to get rid of 100 percent of Obamacare - the little freebies like pre-existing conditions and coverage as children until age 26 are misguided, but can be lived with. More important is to get rid of the death panels and vast new bureaucracies. That sort of "fix, not repeal" would be more practical and more politically savvy than allowing Libs to smear us as Heartless by getting rid of the the giveaways.

286 Oh when I married my wife, my extended family pretty much went from 30 people to 300-500 people in a day. Puerto Ricans are huge on social conservative family values which they keep in touch with their extended family like crazy.

287

>>My wife is Hispanic. I do see some bias against her. But it's all from elite, effete, snobby pseudointellectuals who think she's the help; or government officials who start in speaking to her in Spanish.

 

Yeh, you don't want to get me started on the shit I went through growing up with liberal teachers/administrators in California. And I don't look at all Hispanic, but just had the last name that let them know I needed some soft bias of low expectations 'n stuff.

288 REAL GDP COLLAPSE: 1.7% FOR YEAR From Drudge It's another obama miracle

289 Cyowius is here? Here (oZfic), have some dewishus punch!

290 So, why not just take these two points off the table in the first place? Just concede them to Obama and say "fine, we'll keep those two. Now would you mind trying to tell us about how wonderful the IPAB and the taxes and the slashing of Medicare is about Obamacare? Hmm?"

No, no, a thousand times no.

Take away the mandate, take away the state exchanges, take away the "death panels," if you got rid of everything except the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions and covering "chidren" until they're 26 (btw, most states already require to 25 as long as the "child" is a full-time student- OCare extends that one year and removes the full-time-student requirement), you have already guaranteed socialized medicine. 

Health Insurance companies cannot- absolutely cannot- operate under "shall insure" (which is part of the pre-ex thing) AND have to cover "pre-existing conditions."  Not without pricing out anyone short of a high-profile professional Athlete. 

The "dependent" until age 26 is less problematical- but really not that much.  Dependents are typically insured at lower cost than the primary insured and spouse (Okay ICP- time for a new song: "F*ing Actuarial Tables- How do they work?"  cause I want to know), and getting them onto their own policy actually helps reduce rates for the general population.

291 Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 09:18 AM (et2m1)


That's 'cause they screw like rabbits and use the rhythm method because birth control is too complicated.

292 Posted by: Mama AJ at January 27, 2012 09:18 AM (XdlcF)


You're using too much starch on my collars.

293 I've run out of space for campaign stickers on my bumper.  Palin, then Cain, then Perry, then Romney, then Newt, then Romney again.  Phew!  Back to Palin?

294 Fox News has gone stark raving lib. It's a joke now. This morning on F&F, they reported that the Pentagon shooter from 2010 was shouting "God is great".

Not "Allahu Akbar", which is what he was shouting. I'm not kidding. They might as well be NBC with that trash.

295 "That's 'cause they screw like rabbits and use the rhythm method because birth control is too complicated." Actually Mormons screw like rabbits more efficiently. Puerto Ricans just have better connections with their extended families (2nd, 3rd, 4th, even fucking 5th's cousins) better than Mormons due to the density of the island.

296 @300 Missing the point. Anybody here in MA sees how shitty it is. It's defenders are all people out if state. And it is no end of irritating to hear people claim Mitt's a Capitalist when he forced people to buy a private product.

297 Seems like after every debate we hear Mitt just put all his demons to rest and will now cruise forward effortlessly to the nomination.

Yeah, the status quo stays stuck on stupid hyping their version of "electability", a Siren's Song.

298

 wonder if she's good in the sack?

 

God damn, so do I.  All the fucking time.

299 >>I and my wife speak 3 languages, between the two of us)


Which one do you speak?

300 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at January 27, 2012 09:22 AM (OWjjx)


Thanks!
Click!!
11!

301 You say you "detest" the man. So just give up the schtick that you are supposedly some persuadable guy that is just unpersuaded by Mitt. You're just concern trolling at this point.

Are you really that thick?

Yes, I've already stipulated that I will never, ever vote for Mitt Romney in a Primary.  It's not going to happen.  But I know I'm not the only one asking for this kind of thing- and a lot of the others still are persuadable.

The fact is you're not even trying.  You're all acting like arrogant asses and robots who don't think it's necessary to actually persuade people- you'll just bull over them and keep on going.

Okay, it's just possible that will work in the Primaries- but I guarantee you it will turn off a huge number of Republican voters- and all your cries of "Not supporting the R candidate is the same as voting for Obama" will ring rather hollow in their ears- especially if they haven't been satisfied regarding Mitt Romney's liberal record of governance.

So, fine, don't try to persuade me- you're right, it won't work- but you should be trying to persuade others.

302 >>This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the melting pot was.<<

Right now, we're a lot more like a vomitorium pot.  The Hyphenated-Americans are the easily identifiable chunks of dinner...Americans of European descent whose ancestors emigrated before 1965 are the watery bile holding the mess together (that the folks going through to catalog and fetish the chunks alternately ignore and despise...). Bile used to dissolve the chunks, but it's been decades since anyone's been allowed to chew....

303 "Just the tip" national healthcare. Is this what Mitt, archon of the tenth amendment, is promising now?

304 The real problem with white middle class birthrates isn't that they don't screw like rabbits, but that the women these days put career ahead of family and wait until just on the brink of menopause to try to have kids. Then they run around like crazy to different fertility clinics in hopes of a fix. Sometimes it works, and they wind up with teens with parents that look like their grandparents - something I always thought very unfair to the kids; a child deserves to have relatively vibrant parents - and sometimes it doesn't. Then you see the white mom with two minority kids in tow. Incidentally, since whites are always accused of racism, how comes one never, ever but NEVER sees a minority couple that adopted a white kid? Not NEVER. Yet no one ever wonders about racism??

305 328 >>This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the melting pot was.<<

Right now, we're a lot more like a vomitorium pot. The Hyphenated-Americans are the easily identifiable chunks of dinner...Americans of European descent whose ancestors emigrated before 1965 are the watery bile holding the mess together (that the folks going through to catalog and fetish the chunks alternately ignore and despise...). Bile used to dissolve the chunks, but it's been decades since anyone's been allowed to chew....

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs italics. And a beer. at January 27, 2012 09:26 AM (ZKzrr)

 

Seems like someone is planning stew for dinner.  I picked the wrong week to give up watery bile.

306 Not "Allahu Akbar", which is what he was shouting. I'm not kidding. They might as well be NBC with that trash.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 27, 2012 09:22 AM (r1H6z)

They're hoping their audience is too stupid to understand arabic and its relation to islamic jihad?  What other reason can there be?

307 Thanks for the vomit visual this morning HeatherR.    Very ummm colorful.

308 Posted by: Kaitian at January 27, 2012 09:23 AM (et2m1)


Some of those PR chicks are smokin' hot too!

Although...I was at a wedding in Idaho a long time ago and sat next to the then current Miss Utah. Unfortunately she made it very clear that premarital sex was out of the question. Too bad, because she was gorgeous.

309 Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2012 08:40 AM (Gc/Qi) Romney is the only who polls to even give Obam,a a fight - deal with it, go and nominate mr lose by 18 points or mr majority have unfavorable view of im and see if that helps vs Obama. oh and spare me the polls dont matter crap

Posted by: AuthorLMendez HATES Primaries at January 27, 2012 08:42 AM (yAor6)

No the polls are completely fictional this time of year. They say whatever the MFM wants them to say depending on the narrative. The polls only become accurate around election time when the pollster's credibility is on the line.

When my brother was in college the Chief Editor of Time magazine spoke to his class and admitted to them that they just make the poll numbers up.

310 Well, after all: isn't that exactly what Mitt is saying... each state should decide, rather than have it forced on them? Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 09:14 AM (niZvt) So as long as the state takes my liberties thats A oooook!

311 Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2012 09:25 AM (ZJCDy)

Judging by his writing...clearly not English.

312 You know, we Conservatives should look into this country called Hispania because it sure has a lot of people immigrating to the U.S.

313 But then Obama will say "See? They want to take away your candy!!"

I'm going to try this again.:

The single most poisonous part of ObamaCare is the requirement that insurance companies cover- from day one- pre-existing conditions.  If that's the ONLY thing that was left, it would still guarantee (in short order, too) single-payer, socialized health care.  It.  Would.  Guarantee.  It.

The things that are "the most popular" are the ones that are most disconnected from reality and do the most damage.

They are the ones that must be repealed.

The Individual Mandate is bad because it's unconstitutional and it turns people from "Citizens" into "Subjects."  But it's far less likely to lead to actual socialized healthcare than the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions.

If you're not willing to repeal "the candy" (yes, even though it costs you, politically) you may as well not repeal any of it.  Yes.  Really.

314 I like to be in America!
O.K. by me in America!
Ev'rything free in America
For a small fee in America!

315 Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 09:28 AM (niZvt)


Because the White dominated adoption agencies would never, ever allow a White child to be adopted by some colored person.

You need to read Kos more.

316 MA hasn't had Romney as Governor for years, but they have continued to re-elect the same Legislature that gave them MassCare. If they hate it that much, they know where the ballot boxes are.

317 Well, I said it before and I'll say it again: MY parents, back in the Austrian refugee camp in 1969, applied to a number of countries for admission but always dreamed of America. BUT, it NEVER occurred to them to come here illegally if they weren't accepted. And, they were studying English while still waiting to hear which country would accept them. It NEVER occurred to them to come here and demand CNN en Czech. They ALWAYS proudly called themselves Americans, not "Czech-Americans." For that matter, when I got my citizenship certificate after I turned 18, I was handed a citizenship booklet that included the Pledge of Allegiance and the specific assurance that "there is no such thing as a hyphenated American." Bets THAT is no longer handed out??? To my Asian wife's credit, I brought her to America in 1986, and she is a proud American that loves the country, never thought she should not learn English - hell, still looks at grammar books to this day to improve it - and doesn't whine about minority status. So it's not just the whites that strive to keep America together as the shining light for the world it always was and, hopefully, will once again be after this November.

318 My one consrvative friend must be listening to beck, or was listening to beck.  He texted me that he turned him off as he won't listen to him go completely against everything he's been babbling about to try and toss newt under the bus.  He said it's transparent since he's noticed that in the end the "being a mormon thing" trumps it all for this guy

It's funny cause Mark Levin has been vociferously defending newt, with witnesses, guests. 

I's love to see that debate.  It would be nice to see beck cowering in the corner after levin decimated his arguments as he did on his program in the last two days.

319 Judging by his writing...clearly not English.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 27, 2012 09:31 AM (nEUpB)

If they speak 3 languages between them there must be some pretty fancy smantzy smooching going on.

320 121, I call a window seat on the bench.

321 well, that's what I was saying. We don't need to get rid of 100 percent of Obamacare - the little freebies like pre-existing conditions and coverage as children until age 26 are misguided, but can be lived with. More important is to get rid of the death panels and vast new bureaucracies. That sort of "fix, not repeal" would be more practical and more politically savvy than allowing Libs to smear us as Heartless by getting rid of the the giveaways. Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 09:17 AM (niZvt) Aaaand there we go... NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo REPEAL THE MOTHERFUCKER

322 Yeah, but ever since his encounter with the 5 Strand Rope of Kinkiness, David Carradine has just been hanging around, listless.

I don't wanna have to buy a Batman Costume.

323

Will vote for any non-communist GOP candidate.  On the website infowars there is an article about Ogabe signing a SOPA-like "executive agreement" and claiming it has the force of a treaty (without Senate approval).  Ogabe against SOPA and this agreement is worse as it gives other countries SOPA type powers over copywrite content on US websites.  ISPs can be taken down without due process.  Well past time to rise up against this tyranny. Commie controlled Senate is helping to flush our liberties down the crapper.

324 NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo REPEAL THE MOTHERFUCKER Posted by: TendStl at January 27, 2012 09:36 AM (kjCtb) See, politics is called the Art of the Possible for a reason... You would seriously pass up the chance to get rid of 98 percent of Obamacare, simply because you can only accept getting rid of 100 percent of it? This really is what drives the anti-Romney people - the absolute inability to face political reality. They blame Romney for Romneycare, when the fact is the political situation in MA made it the least bad option for the state.

325 And fucking Coulter wondering "So what if everyone in Reagans administration endorsed Newt and David Limbaugh, why didn't he get Ron Reagan Jr.s endorsement?" Really? She wondering why that fucking liberal Ron Reagan Jr. didn't endorse Newt?

326 Ah, first-generation Asian women.... NOMNOMNOM

327 Allen G
+1000
But it's "popular" and it's one of the so-called "good parts" of Obamacare/Romneycare, so let's keep parroting the talking points just like libs do even though it's completely unsustainable and against tenet of insurance.

328

Chemjeff, thanks for being the first Romney supporter to tell the truth, Mitt Romney will not totally repeal Obamacare.

 

Guess us Perry people were right when we said it and were heckled by your brethren on this site.

 

329 You would seriously pass up the chance to get rid of 98 percent of Obamacare, simply because you can only accept getting rid of 100 percent of it?

If the 2% left still leads to socialized medicine (as the requirement to cover pre-existing conditions will do)?  Yes.

330 Lincolntf at January 27, 2012 09:17 AM (hiMsy)

There's no one resorting to Newt who doesn't know that he's undisciplined and susceptible to a concert attack via friendly fire.  He's that way.  It's understood.

Mitt is similar. though.  he got seriously  ruffled and pocket in the hands when he felt it all slipping away....but he just gets kind of irritable and some one got to HIM too...with good advice for making the jeebies fade.

"Not worth getting angry about."    If my party has come to this... it's the end of America.   If you aren't angry about ORomnacare and your future VAT just walk right up that chute.

A quick slide in to nationalized health care and Herd medicine.   Welcome to your veterinary future.

331 Food Stamps Up 45%; Federal Handouts Up 32%... Obama: Bush Is Food Stamp President, Not Me... Kiss my ass

332

BULLETIN:  After 2 disappointing debate performances this week, Newt Gingrich has annouced he is firing his grandchildren.

333 Before winning public office, Santorum represented the World Wrestling Federation, arguing that professional wrestling should be exempt from federal anabolic steroid regulations.  Of all the incongruous things for Mr. Santorum to advocate, to launch his professional career with, considering what was the simultaneous career specialization of Mrs. Santorum that he boasted last night, natal nursing care, and his pro-life stance while injecting grotesque DNA perversions.

Why did the attorneys Santorum leave Pennsylvania to relocate in Virginia, except to attempt living like Newt, influence peddling as consultant lobbyists? 

The nightmare of listening to "I'll Attack China!" Santorum's perpetual harangue could easily drive idiots who prefer Obama's voice to disable the oppositional force to remove Obama from office.

334 Obama will portray romney as the golden boy born with the silver spoon in his mouth.  Trading on the name.  Having access to anything and everything via the name or via the family wealth.  He'll argue that he might have made his billions as an adult but the father's millions and the family name enabled him to get that ivy league education and to be put in a position to create that wealth.  No matter how much romney argues that yes, this is the American dream fulfilled, more people will hear the inequality that exists between the haves and the have nots.  Cause that is how they've been trained to think.

335 @359: I would first accept getting rid of the 98% and then turn my attention to the remaining 2%. If it turns out impossible to get rid of the 2%, fight the war to keep the percentage from going back up.

336 C math is me by the way

337 >>So it's not just the whites that strive to keep America together as the shining light for the world it always was and, hopefully, will once again be after this November.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 09:34 AM (niZvt)

Just jabbin' ya CoolCzech, you can speak drooling Czechlish for all I care, so long as you and the wife are on the ABO Express.

338 This really is what drives the anti-Romney people - the absolute inability to face political reality. They blame Romney for Romneycare, when the fact is the political situation in MA made it the least bad option for the state. Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 09:40 AM (niZvt) He was the governor, he signed it into law. Don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining. Unless you repeal ALL OF IT, its like getting "some of the infection out". When another D president comes in, there it is. Ya know, I have more respect for Mittbots that say "God I hope he repeals it" then those trying to justify keeping "parts of it". That is what Democrats want, that we will keep "parts of it", they are praying to god for that. STOP IT

339 @344 - vote Mitt: he did something shitty, but it was only in Massachusetts. And really, is it so bad?

340 If the government insists the insurance companies insure everyone regardless of condition, the insurance companies will be driven out of business. Does anyone understand insurance at all? This is part of the little 2% you want to keep.

341 Posted by: The Mittbot argument at January 27, 2012 09:45 AM (t6ti5)

And besides, who gives a shit about Massachusetts?

It's not like it's Puerto Rico!

342 Okay- some Romney supporter explain this to me.

You know- know with absolute certainty- that only about 1/4 of the base wants anything to do with Mitt Romney. Yet, instead of looking at Mitt Romney and saying, "Yeah, he's flawed here and here. Hey, Mitt, maybe you want to throw a bone to conservatives, every now and again. Oh, and acknowledge your flaws and explain to us why we shouldn't be worried," or even explaining to us who detest the man why you already aren't worried and why we shouldn't be either- you blame us for wanting someone else. Why?

Oh- and before you say "Conservative Congress"- I'm pre-throwing the bullshit flag on that. Congress won't move any president to the Right. The President will need to pull Congress to the Right.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Team Meteor. Now with Cheesecake at January 27, 2012 08:58 AM (8y9MW)

You won't like this, but the fact is that Mitt Romney doesn't care.  It's a feature, not a bug.  He's trying to yank the Republican Party back to some position of perceived sanity so that average voters won't see it as The Crazy Party.  He's trying to do for the Republicans what Bill Clinton did, all too briefly unfortunately, for the Democrats.  We can stomp and scream all day long that we aren't crazy, but we have largely lost that battle due to the relentless spinning of the MFM.  Mitt is being a realist by deciding he can't change what the MFM does, and he doesn't want any part of The Crazy.  He's not going to pander to us, he's not going to "acknowledge our anger and frustration."  He's trying to run a campaign as Generic Republican, in a year when he knows that people rally want to throw the SCOAMF out but won't do it if the alternative is The Crazy.

You probably violently disagree with this characterization, and I get it.  Just trying to explain to you what's going on here. 

343 I'm really sick of this "Mittbot" crap. There isn't anyone else up there that has a chance in hell of winning. Just because someone prefers Mitt in all his weakness to the disaster of Newt doesn't make them a "Mittbot". That whole meme is little better than Sharpton screaming racism at every opportunity. I wanted Perry to not be half asleep but he was. I'm stunned that so few of you remember Newt from the last go-round.

344 Posted by: jeannebodine at January 27, 2012 09:46 AM (byR8d)

There are ways that they can insure everyone and still lower costs and still make a profit and not go out of business.  I know beck is always saying the goal is single payor government run insurance and others add with death panels but the industry itself can make sure this doesn't happen.  Problem is if they pass legislation that makes it impossible.  But if the playing field is as it is now, there is a lot the insurance industry can do to prevent itself from becoming the financial industry or the auto industry.

345 "First of all, I don't put people on food stamps. People become eligible for food stamps. Second of all, the initial expansion of food-stamp eligibility happened under my Republican predecessor, not under me. Number three, when you have a disastrous economic crash that results in 8 million people losing their jobs, more people are going to need more support from government."

346 If it turns out impossible to get rid of the 2%, fight the war to keep the percentage from going back up.

But it will have already proven "impossible" to get rid of the 2%.  Proven by the fact it wasn't repealed in the first place.

It will never be easier to repeal those parts of ObamaCare than it will be come January 2013.  Never.  So if it's too hard then, it will always be too hard.

If ObamaCare is just politics to you- or if you think "just politics" will get rid of it, you're sadly mistaken.  ObamaCare will fundamentally transform a Republic in name and fact into a Republic in name only, and a Feudal State in fact.

347 Catpiss

348

Good analysis, Rockmom.  I think although the base is besotted with consternation for this foppish 'gentleman' Romney (and I use the word in its palest and thinnest connotation), his campaign has been perfect so far.  The base and a good majority of independents will crawl over broken glass to vote Obama out.  Turnout will not be a problem. 

 

While you and I and those here are not excited about Romney, and with good reason, he's uniquely positioned at the moment to win.

349 Dagny, that's cause you're not a Mittbot. But those who keep telling us Romneycare isn't bad and defend Romney no matter what....well they are like Palinistas, Cainiacs, etc.

350 @367: no offense taken at all, ontherocks... I was just trying to say, indirectly, that I hate the way some Latino immigrants hate to assimilate.

351 It will never be easier to repeal those parts of ObamaCare than it will be come January 2013. Never. So if it's too hard then, it will always be too hard. Well OF COURSE if we CAN repeal 100 percent we should, Allen. All I'm saying is, I would rather accept 98 percent victory than NO victory.

352 @318 "Allahu ackbar!" is what Murdoch cries in ecstacy ever since he jumped into bed with the Saudis.

353

Until Norm Coleman publicly admitted that A Romney Presidency would not lead to a total repeal of Obamacare, the mantra from MItt's supporters has gone from "total repeal" to "98% repeal". The party line was total repeal until Norm let the cat out of the bag.

 

Am I the only one seeing the hypocrisy regarding this issue from Mitt and fan club?

 

Math hint for you people, 98<100.

354 Speaking of talk radio, Dennis Miller is pretty much all I listen to nowadays. Beck is not an option, Rush is just boring after 15 years of daily exposure, Levin is good for comedic value but gets old fast. Lately we've gotten new evening shows that I'm still not sure about. The Schnitt Show, the Jason Lewis show, another one I can't remember. Anyway, does anyone else listen to Miller? He still cracks me up after all these years.

355 Is all of this talk about Puerto Rico because Juan Epstein died?

356

" All I'm saying is, I would rather accept 98 percent victory than NO victory."

 

So now the party line is "98% or nothing at all"?

 

What a difference 48 hours makes.

357 Lincoln, what station can we get Miller on?  I don't hear him on my usual stations.

358 Jeannebodine, Everytime anyone now points out a Newt fault the screams of "Mittbot" rise to the heavens. They are not mutually exclusive necessarily but have ended up being that way. I just wonder where all the Newtlarve was when the field was at its full capacity. Seems like Newt only looks good to those who have hated Romney and not for any other reason. In the beginning he was on a par with Huntsman, an absolute no-go.

359 President Obama leaves event promoting clean energy in a motorcade of 22 fossil-fueled vehicles

360 I'm no Mittbot.  But I think he's the best choice left since I think he's the only one with a good shot to throw the current occupant out.

361

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 27, 2012 09:57 AM (hiMsy)

Try Chris Plante at WMAL dot com. He's on 9-12 eastern. I promise you will love him. He is not only a moron at heart but funny, smart, and unafraid. He's also alot easier to listen to than the other guys.

362

Oh yeah, I will add that I fully acknowledge that we are not going to get a fundamental change in direction if Mitt Romney is elected President.  We'll get better budgets, some whittling down of the debt, conservative judges, maybe some good revisions to Dodd-Frank, and some partial repeal of Obamacare.  I'll settle for that 7 days a week.  Your mileage may vary.

 

And you know what?  If all Romney does is NOTHING for four years, it will probably work.  The economy will heal itself without a lot of "policy" from Washington, in fact I would argue that the gridlock of the last year is already having a salutary effect.  If we get back to 4% growth and nnon-exposive federal budgets for a few years it will have a large impact on the debt and the deficit.  If we stop the regulatory madness it will help even more.

 

We won the 2010 elections because Obama and especially Pelosi and Reid took the country too far to the left, where it didn't want to go.  It wasn't just Obamacafre, it was the failed $800 billion stimulus and a the huge deficits and the mortgage bailouts and the GM takeover and all sorts of stuff that just shocked people.  The correct repsonse is not necessarily to yank the country back the same distance to the right.  If we try that, we'll meet the same fate in 2014 that the Democrats did in 2010. 

 

Most of America is not ideological and people are tired of the ideological fights and the constant point-scoring that doesn't seem to get the nation anywhere.  This is why I think Romney will beat Obama, and possibly very badly, because Obama will not be able to resist a hard-left class-warfare campaign against Romney, and the public is really tired of that kind of bomb-throwing and demonizing.  It will make Obama look small and petty, which is not what people want their President to look like.  And if gasoline hits $4 a gallon this summer, and Obama still refuses to apprive the Keystone pipeline, it's Katy bar the door, we'll be looking at a landslide with epic gains in the Senate and House to go with it.

363 386Is all of this talk about Puerto Rico because Juan Epstein died?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2012 09:57 AM (1Jaio)

 

Yes

364 Barky on MSNBC giving a speech... if only he was effective a POTUS as he is a campaigner. The young kids behind him are sucking up every word. I bet the "young kids" of four years ago that voted for him are now sitting at home - because they are unemployed - and watching him with rueful expressions on their dopey faces.

365 Jeopardy contestants can't name Rachel Maddow

http://www.breitbart.tv/who-is-rachel-maddow/

"I'll take the penis mightier for $400"

366
Welcome Back Kotter" actor Robert Hegyes has died. Hegyes is best known for playing Juan Epstein on "Welcome Back Kotter," the 1970s sitcom, which starred John Travolta and Gabe Kaplan.  He was 60.

367 You are not being propagandized. For serious.

368 Truman, WSJS 600 AM in Winston - Salem

369 So, lets see, when I was watching Welcome Back Kotter, I was in 7th grade, age 12. That means that Epstein was 24 playing a 16 year old. Signed Epstein's mother.

370

" If we get back to 4% growth and nnon-exposive federal budgets for a few years it will have a large impact on the debt and the deficit."

f

Entitlements will blow the budget along with the Obamacare spending called for in the act.

 

Without some fundamentals changes in the tax code and cutting the budget, the USA is fucked. Plain and simple.

371 I bet the "young kids" of four years ago that voted for him are now sitting at home - because they are unemployed - and watching him with rueful expressions on their dopey faces. Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 10:03 AM (niZvt) Good. My kids did NOT vote for him and one has a job with Federated Stores ( Macys/Bloomindales) in June one month after she graduates and the other is in Grad School for Occupational Therapy and is set for life. And they both worked hard and voted right.

372 OT but in case you all were wondering. yesterday's Amish County Standoff involved a domestic dispute and the young man who caused the whole mess was armed with a DRILL painted to look like a gun. PA is so deeply stupid.

373

Why did the attorneys Santorum leave Pennsylvania to relocate in Virginia, except to attempt living like Newt, influence peddling as consultant lobbyists?

The nightmare of listening to "I'll Attack China!" Santorum's perpetual harangue could easily
drive idiots who prefer Obama's voice to disable the oppositional force to remove Obama from office.

 

Posted by: Panzer Trout at January 27, 2012 09:43 AM (lpWVn)

 

I'm not a big Santorum fan, but he moved his family to Virginia pretty early on in his first Senate term.  He has 7 kids.  It's their home and his wife is homeschooling them.  Virginia has very favorable laws for homeschooling and the Santorums probably have a large network of friends who homeschool.  Rick knew when his Senate term ended that he was done politically in Pennsylvania.  There wasn't much else he could do professionally in Virginia to make enough money to support a family of 9, except go the law firm/lobbying route. 

374 80 i'm sorry....but the moon thing just sounds really boring....i don't think i'd want to even go for vacation.....

-------------

but but but you'd miss the whalers on the moon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60BjkUtqxPE

375 So the brain surgeons running Egypt is hold the son of a Cabinet Official and preventing him from leaving the Country? And how much aid are we giving these fine fellows? Another obama foreign policy victory

376

" It will make Obama look small and petty,"

 

Who is going to run with this theme? The media? The same media that calls pointing out the deficit under Obama as "racist"?

 

Nothing from the media will say this.

377 not so different from McCain

378 dagny, you are absolutely right. I only went to Newt (who I don't even like) because I think Obamacare will be the downfall of our nation. I have never believed Romney will repeal it since he basically invented it and still thinks it's a conservative idea. I've been in insurance my entire working life and even without the mandate Obamacare will destroy the insurance industry and also the relationship of the citizen to the government.

I never followed politics before Obamacare, have read all I can of the bill and articles about it during my Obama-imposed funemployment and I want the candidate who will get rid of it.

I will vote for the R nominee regardless.

379

Don't have a problem with lobbyists. Wish I had gotten into that early. It's not illegal, maybe should be, but isn't.

Va is full of homeschoolers. I'm near the Pentagon, so right in the mix of things, and in my little neighborhood we have 4 sets of homeschoolers. If you're not Catholic or don't want to use their schools, and you're not wealthy enought to pay $30 thou/year starting in K for private, home schooling is your only option.

380 Dagny, I'll give it a try on Monday from 9-10 (when Miller starts). I'll probably end up listening to replays if I like it as I'm often driving or working outdoors when I get my radio fixes (the old fashioned way).

381 402 " If we get back to 4% growth and nnon-exposive federal budgets for a few years it will have a large impact on the debt and the deficit."

Entitlements will blow the budget along with the Obamacare spending called for in the act.

Without some fundamentals changes in the tax code and cutting the budget, the USA is fucked. Plain and simple.  

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 27, 2012 10:05 AM (kaOJx)

Possibly.  But it will be a lot easier to take these issues on when the economy has improved and people are feeling better about the future.  Now is exactly the wrong time to do it. 

 

Entitlements are not going to be discussed in this campaign, because neither candidate will want to.  They will have to be faced by the next President, though.  I would rather have a good numbers guy in there.  It's perhaps the best argument of all for Romney.  The guy knows how to turn around failing enterprises, there is no doubt about that.  I wish he would make that the center of his campaign from now on.

 

382 there are tons of homeschoolers in PA

383 390 >>>Am I the only one seeing the hypocrisy regarding this issue from Mitt and fan club?


Last night some of them were arguing that Obamacare won't be a factor in the general. Not because Mitt would want to avoid the subject, but because, you know, it's just, like, so two years ago.

Posted by: runninrebel at January 27, 2012 09:59 AM (N/1Dm)

UNBELEIVABLE

384

"But it will be a lot easier to take these issues on when the economy has improved and people are feeling better about the future."

 

And this will happen when without serious changes in DC? Never. But hey, we can always hope for change.

385 My first presidential vote was for Ronald Reagan. I feel bad that my oldest kid's first presidential vote will be for Romney or ugh Newt.

386 plus, you know, CATHOLIC SCHOOLS (in PA) which I'm back to loving, got my son's thing all fixed up and we're shiny again

387 415 there are tons of homeschoolers in PA   There's a drill joke there somewhere

388 We're also getting rich off Obama-care. We'll leave the peasants to scrape their childrens' brains off a pavement in Persia. (sent home in a box)

389 Happy Friday, all.  I see the blog is still screwed.

390 BlackOrchidHeartlessAgain, did you hear that PrendieBonner (my alma mater) raised $1M to keep the school going? I wonder if it will do the trick? It is prime real estate since it is adjacent to Del Co Hospital.

391

http://tinyurl.com/73rgldt

OT. My son Chris and his sweetie Cori have entered a contest and I need some Moron help.  Chris was in the 4th Brigade of the 1st Inf. Div. when it made the early surge buildup into Bagdad.  He spent 15 months there and came back with 2 Purple Hearts and a disabality from the VA.  He is doing good now and he and Cori made a great video for this contest.  If you folks could watch it and leave a comment ( Chris and Cori ), you could help put him over the top.  Thanks

392

In one case, the trustee for one of the Romney trusts sent two letters to the Internal Revenue Service electing to use an apparently irrelevant section of the tax code, and in the process misstated the facts involved.

That mistake did not affect the taxes owed, but another error was more significant. It appears that the return filed by that trust overstated capital gains realized by nearly $300,000, causing Mr. Romney and his wife to pay about $44,000 more in taxes than they owed.

Good help is hard to find.

393

>>Posted by: rockmom at January 27, 2012 10:01 AM (NYnoe)

I admire your optimism, but at this point it appears a bit rosy.

We are a bit far gone economically, and entitlementwise for a steady as she goes type at this point, and frankly that is what the commies have always counted on in their long march.

I am also not as confident that Obowbow fatigue translates to voter enthusiasm for Captain Miquetoast.

394 >> My first presidential vote was for Ronald Reagan. I feel bad that my oldest kid's first presidential vote will be for Romney or ugh Newt.<<

Mine was for Bob Dole.

So I'm trying to debug this shit code that don't work, and when I go to get more engineering fuel, the SCOAMF is on the breakroom TV telling a bunch of stupid kids he's going to "keep college affordable"...no doubt with my money.

It's just not worth getting out of bed anymore.

395

Jane D'oh at January 27, 2012 10:18 AM

 

Sort of like the US. And the GOP.

396 Jeanne that's the trouble. there's already a huge deal in the works to sell that RE. I'm very dubious about what will happen there St Huberts raised the "target" the archdiocese set for them, too. So we'll see. I don't have much hope for them.

397 419 My first presidential vote was for Ronald Reagan. I feel bad that my oldest kid's first presidential vote will be for Romney or ugh Newt.

My son's was for McCain. 

*sigh*

398 No.   What you get with Mitt is ORomnacare and a VAT.   All the worse because the GOP then owns both.

America- so two years ago.

399 Morning!

How is everyone doing today?

400 My first vote was bill clinton! so you know, (ducks) . . . but I was a flaming liberal up til 2000

401 " It will make Obama look small and petty,"

Who is going to run with this theme? The media? The same media that calls pointing out the deficit under Obama as "racist"?

Nothing from the media will say this.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 27, 2012 10:09 AM (kaOJx)

 

People will see it, just like they saw it in Jimmy Carter when he ran around calling Reagan a dangerous warmonger. The media were echoing him right up until Election Day, but the people decided Carter was not man enough for the job.  The race card won't work against Romney, he's not from the South and in fact his father was considered one of the real leaders in corporate America on civil rights.  His father was actually instrumental in getting the Mormon Church to open up to blacks in the 1970s.

 

Obama tried setting up the Occupy "movement" as a way to frame the election against Romney and get people more riled up about "inequality" than they are about 25 million people still unemployed or underemployed.  It was pretty much a Hail Mary effort to try to frame the election in a way that would favor Obama.  But it fizzled.  The polls are consistently showing that people are still more concerned about jobs than anything.  Obama's Kansas speech and the SOTU haven't moved the needle at all. 

402 Hi Lacey! I'm actually doing awesome. Had a great day yesterday talking to son's speech and reading support team and feeling really positive now. I have a plumber in for a problem which is never good, but hopefully he can fix it sort of painlessly and IT'S FRIDAY!

403

Entitlements are not going to be discussed in this campaign, because neither candidate will want to.

 

No one ever wants to discuss entitlements which is why we are now utterly fucked.  I'm upper end Gen X and I've been subjected nearly all my life to yammering about how Social Security won't be there and Medicare is going to bankrupt the country and Something Must Be Done.  Nothing is ever done and the can gets kicked down the road. 

 

I'll be blunt, I am to the point where I believe nothing will ever be done until it's far past too late.  The math doesn't lie and there's no political will to address the problems.  The shit is going to hit the fan and it will be horrific. 

404 BlackOrchid, I don't either, think it's really just sentimentality. Prendie & Bonner are so close to O'Hara, the commute would be no big deal. To tell you the truth since my mother treats at Delco Hospital, I would love the expansion since it's so cramped. .

405 All I'm saying is, I would rather accept 98 percent victory than NO victory.

And I'm telling you that the 2% you're willing to keep IS "NO victory."

If we repeal every jot and tittle except for the requirement of insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions, we have failed to repeal the single most devastating piece of ObamaCare.  Devastating to the point it will- it must- lead to single payer, socialized medicine.

Are vic or any of the other Cancer-stricken morons around?  I'm going to be using old numbers, here, so they might be able to help me.

I used to process claims for BlueCross BlueShield here in Texas.  I worked with the Texas Health Insurance Risk Pool- we saw a lot of (not surprisingly) "high risk" members (high risk normally defined as "diagnosed with high blood pressure" but often enough defined as "has lymphoma" or something similar.)  That means we saw a lot of cancer treatment claims.  Now THIRP was (is) a Plan with a Very High Deductible- the largest one we had was $5000 (yep, yearly deductible) with a $2500 Co-Insurance maximum (for a total Out-of-Pocket Maximum of $7,500/yr -not including prescriptions).

If, on January 1st you went in for Chemo- that entire visit (the drugs, the hospital facility charges, the doctor, etc.) would completely knock out your Deductible, and you'd still wind up paying about another $1,000.  The second Visit would finish your out-of-pocket maximum, and the insurance company would be on the hook for the rest of your sessions (plus any other medical expenses) for the rest of the year.  The absolute highest premiums we charged were (try not to feint) $1,500/mo.  On the seriously high-risk patients (probably about 55 - 60% of our membership) we lost more money than their premiums paid.

So trust me when I say- if insurance companies had to cover pre-existing conditions, they would go out of business in a hurry.  We survived for two reasons- under current law, you still have to cover "pre-existing conditions" but you can require proof of continuous insurance coverage for the preceeding 12 months- we did that, and if you didn't produce that "Proof of Creditable Coverage" your coverage for that condition didn't kick in for a year (more complicated than that, really, but this is already a long comment).  Second- because we were subsidized by the other insurance companies in Texas (basically, they paid us to handle those cases so they wouldn't have to).  And we never, ever made a profit- those subsidies were just enough to keep our final balance for the year at 0.00.

406 Well, our kid has arrived in Shitcanistan.  So there's that.

407 obama is a dick

408

" The race card won't work against Romney, he's not from the South"

 

Take your bigoted view and shove it. Herr Moby.

409 Obowbow fatigue translates to voter enthusiasm for Captain Miquetoast.

That  is Mitt's only strength - being lackluster and uninspiring enough to get sadder but wiser Obots of yore  to shrug their shoulders and let it all go....

However,  Mitt won't get those votes exactly.   More likely the dispirited will just not really get out the vote.  

That's a strength with a definite downside and may be more liability than gain.

410
Watched Judge Napolitano last night, and he went over all the new fees and taxes that Romney raised in MA and the ones he wanted to, so many in fact that the liberal legislature had to rein it in.

Romney may end up the nominee, but he in no way is a conservative.

411 You know that we're a lower cog in the machinery that owns you. Yet, they don't even allow you to know who your owners are. Something is rotten in Peoria

412 ObamaCare has to go. Every single page of that bank vault door stop.

It isn't just about the content of that particular bill, which is still defying attempts to understand all of its consequences. It's about the immensity of the bill itself. The sheer page count declares it to be a great steaming mound of shit full of gotchas, loopholes, special favors, etc.

If some brave Congress Critter put forth a bill limiting the sheer size of bills to rein in the 'baffle them with bullshit' approach to legislation, I'd be deeply interested. This is a weapon that needs to be taken out of their hands. They've made it plain they cannot be trusted to write a simple straightforward proposal when they know the individual components of their wish list will not stand up to scrutiny.

Time to make it a requirement.

413 Well, our kid has arrived in Shitcanistan. So there's that. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 27, 2012 10:24 AM (UOM4 Tell him to keep his head down and take good care of his Navy Corpsman

414 Jeanne I hate to see Bonner/Prendie go, but they really can fit all those students in at O'Hara, sad to say. the only problem is the West Catholic students, they could conceivably attend Bonner/Prendie. but - they are mostly subsidized and non-Catholic. I think they're a loss.

415 Didn't some candidate have a platform that included cupcakes? I'd like to hear more.

416 Tell him to keep his head down and take good care of his Navy Corpsman

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 27, 2012 10:25 AM (i6RpT)

He really likes his corpseman(tm).  By the way, my ghey hair stylist is a former Navy corpseman!  heh

417 Mr. Conservative.com has a nice chart of all the "change" we've gotten since the JEF took office one of my friends shared on FB.

418 "It appears that the return filed by that trust overstated
capital gains realized by nearly $300,000, causing Mr. Romney and his
wife to pay about $44,000 more in taxes than they owed."
--------------------------
So, when a Republican makes as mistake on his taxes the result is an overpayment. You all remember Turbo Tax Timmy's little mistake, don't you?

Mitt ought to be able to make a campaign ad out of that.

419 A Conservative would have vetoed all of MassCare and offered a free market alternative. Then when the MA Democrats overrode his veto he could have said. "So be it". But, no, Mitt did something a bit different and says it was the right thing to do. If you vote for Mitt in the Primaries you are voting for a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate pretending to be a Conservative. If you mention all the things about ObamaCare that you would like repealed and do not mention the mandate, well, you need to go back and try again. Obama will hammer Mitt with the truth that he and Mitt are not so very different in the end. They both order the same shit shoved down our throats. Mitt just tries to make it taste a little better.

420 the 2% you're willing to keep IS "NO victory."


The end of America, really.   The death blow;  and I'm not trying to be hyperbolic.  Either we are free men with the right to own property and direct its use  or we are slaves.    <===== It's all so Liberty or Death, I know but it's absolutely true.

421 48 When I was younger than that and being bullied by an older kid, I brought a friend who grabbed the guy around the neck while I hit him in the face with a history book a few times. Right in front of the fucking school. "No one will do anything" works both ways.

422 #439

Exactly. If you keep any part of the Trojan Horse, it's going to turn out to have enemies hiding inside. The only safe thing to do is push it back outside the gate and light it on fire as you withdraw.

Course, the heart of the medical care cost problem is market distortion and that is a direct result of the rise of employer provided health care, with Medicare adding to the mess a few years later. A lot needs to change before we can get back to a sane system where people can simply pay for what they need based on realistic numbers.

423 "446 ObamaCare has to go. Every single page of that bank vault door stop."

Oh, Epobirs.    It's "not worth getting angry about."

424 Take it easssssssyyyyyyy cuz all your politician are belong to us bwahahahahahahaha

425

Didn't some candidate have a platform that included cupcakes? I'd like to hear more.

Team Meteor is proud to present it's platform for a grand new dawn in America.  Team Meteor promises to stand ready with cookies, cupcakes with sprinkles and cheesecake as the proud spirit of the American citizenry comes face to face with the problems facing the future.  Team Meteor has full confidence that the American people are capable of dealing with a post-apocalyptic world after impact. 

 

Team Meteor - Cookies, cupcakes with sprinkles, cheesecake and ELE for all!

426 Well... let's go for 100 percent victory. But I'm telling you, the odds heavily stacked against that, and I don't see how Moonbeam Newt would change that.

427 Posted by: BlackOrchidHeartlessAgain

^^^

Is this in reference to the tests you were talking about last week? Really disappointing to hear that was in Catholic school. That's the crap you should only expect from public schools.

428 449  Didn't some candidate have a platform that included cupcakes? I'd like to hear more.

Posted by: jeannebodine at January 27, 2012 10:25 AM (byR8d)

Now there's a candidate I'd like to learn more about!

429

" But I'm telling you, the odds heavily stacked against that, and I don't see how Moonbeam Newt would change that."

 

Mitt never said any of this, nor his supporters, until the past two days.

 

430 But I'm telling you, the odds heavily stacked against that, and I don't see how Moonbeam Newt would change that.

By being willing to start from a position of full repeal.  A position which (sorry, it's been lost in all the nuance and revision) I don't believe that Mitt Romney would take.

Just like Congressional Republicans- if you start from your "Compromise" Position, you'll end up accepting their starting position.  Or something much closer too it, at least.

If we don't start from "It all has to go.  All of it," then we'll certainly not get rid of all of it, will we?  And Mitt has stated- early and often- that he doesn't see any reason to start form "It all has to go."

431 Why don't you dedicate some more energy against the wealthiest, most sophisticated and most successful psychological warfare unit of all time? We know everything you think we know and moreover, we know you think you might know, but are constrained by social norms and 'reasonable limits' to our power.

432 A 2 week hiatus before the Super Bowl sucks almost as much as all these debates

433 Oh come on, Dick, people were saying from the day Obamacare changed that some things like the age 26 coverage would not change once enacted - it's one reason we all opposed it so hard. I'm not saying I oppose repealing it, but if the political price to getting rid of the death panels and mandates and new bureaucracies is to compromise on that one thing, I could live with it. Is that really so outrageously "un-conservative"? My Way or the Highway sounds great in theory, but since when has it EVER worked out in real life?

434 I told you, bitches love Space.

435

Yeah I guess I am an optimist, I just have lived long enough to have seen pretty much everything happen in a Presidential campaign, but actual campaign tactics hardly ever matter, especially when an incumbent is running for reelection.   Voters either decide the incumbent has done a good job and deserves another term, or they don't. 

 

It's been obvious to me for months that the Obama people really know he is toast.  The Democratic Party cannot afford to dump him or they'll lose the black vote for the next 50 years.  They're stuck with him and they're going down with him.  Look at all the Dems retiring in the House and Senate.  They know this election is gonna be brutal.  They tried one last desperation move to launch the Occupy movement to try to recapture the "movement" feeling of Obama's 2008 campaign, but it quickly got taken over by the professional anarchists and thugs and the White House itself pulled the plug on it.  Now they are painting Obama into a smaller and smaller populist/leftwing corner trying to hang on to their base for dear life so the entire election is not a total wipeout for them like 2008 was for us.

 

Watch the professional Democrats like Begala and Brazile on TV.  Listen to them closely.  You will hear the resignation in their voices.  They know Obama is going to lose.

 

The GOP nomination fight has been so hard and the field so crowded precisely because everyone who knows anything in the GOP also knows Obama is going down.  This nomination is worth having because whoever gets it is going to be the next President.

436 152 - Oh, the morning joe guys say let it go? I guess I need to learn when to shut up, if the morning joe guys tell me to. ****** Ya, that's a weird standard.

437 blood blood blood fetus fetus penis blood blood penis fetus baby baby fetus penis jesus blood blood blood

438 I knew I wouldn't have to sell out.

439 "Didn't some candidate have a platform that included
cupcakes? I'd like to hear more." Beware the Christian Terrorists! It begins with cupcakes and the next thing you now, they're washing your car...

440 yeah Lacey - it was really all his teacher being vindictive. the principal and his support team were all "omg we just have to do DIBELs we don't use it for promotion or anything!" they were really cool. He's actually doing well on his normal school work and his normal tests are usually 100s they shocked the reading team actually having the 1st graders do reading fluency - that's the part he failed. But a lot of the kids in his class failed it and no one was particularly concerned. his teacher just used it to beat me about the head b/c we were already arguing about something else with him. she's just really terrible. but that happens, he will survive. I already know his teacher for next year and she will be a HUGE improvement I went a little nuts but with good reason and the outcome is really good (except that his teacher probably will take it out on him a little bit)

441 I had a dream last night Palin/Brewer or Brewer/Palin to jump in and save us, works for me instead of these two poseurs (Mitt & Newt), Santorum is broke so he did the right thing and left he read the tea leaves, Paul is just a lunatic and should STFU, bottom line we are in trouble folks better look for a new place to live, I am and Costa Rica looks good to me right now.

442 where dem white wimmins at?

443 A Conservative would have vetoed all of MassCare and offered a free market alternative. Then when the MA Democrats overrode his veto he could have said. "So be it". ****** Yep. Romney could have done this-instead he did a top down-let your betters decide for everyone type of legislation, that is driving the state into debt.

444 I love Jan Brewer.  Anyone who gets in SCOAMF's face and doesn't back down from that petulant twit is teh awesome.

Bet the IRS goes over her taxes with a fine-toothed comb this year though.

445 >>>>>Is all of this talk about Puerto Rico because Juan Epstein died?<<<<<


He's not even Hispanic, I believe.  IIRC, he's also a cousin to Jon Bon Jovi.

446 The idea that Romney is the guy to effectively tinker with entitlements without completely halting Obamacare implimentation misses the point.

A national health mandate is the camel straw, while also installing centrally planned government as the focal point of all personal, civic, and career interactions - irrevocably.

It and its intentially tangled 2000+ page morass needs incineration ASAP.     

447 The idea of English also being a national language is still a dumb idea and we should always demonstrate that we are a melting pot first rather than worrying about what language we speak.<<<

I don't think you understand the concept of the melting pot. 

448

Oh, and as for Obamacare, we already HAVE socialized medicine now for nearly half the population.  The reason fixing the rest of it is so impossible is because so much of the system is already on a single-payer government basis.  Government keeps ratcheting down what it pays under Medicare and Medicaid to save money, so the costs get shifted to the rest of us who are actually paying our way. 

 

My own preference would be to at least have the next Congress come up with a budget that fully funds Medicare, so the public can see what kind of charades have been played with it over the years and see what the real choices are.  It would probably cost close to $800 billion for Medicare to actually pay 100% of charges and pay for every procedure and device that people want.  Now, we can either pay for that up front with tax dollars, which would be pretty efficient and cause costs to drop dramatically for the rest of us, or we can keep up this stupid Rube Goldberg system we have now where the costs get shifted and the pain gets spread around, and we need things like the Death Panels to start determining who gets treatment. 

449

Beware the Christian Terrorists! It begins with cupcakes and the next thing you now, they're washing your car...

 

Don't forget sending pound cake and raking the leaves and cleaning up after the riot . . .

450 >>People will see it, just like they saw it in Jimmy Carter when he ran around calling Reagan a dangerous warmonger.<<

The electorate is different than it was 30 years ago.  More ignorant, more dependent, more shallow.

451

Sorry Czech, Romney's campaign never said anything about partial repeal only til this week. Romney hasn't campaigned on a partial repeal. His supporters are only starting this mantra this week.

 

Face it, there will be no total repeal of Obamacare under a Romney Presidency. Win for the left.

452 There wasn't much elsehe could do professionally in Virginia to make enough money to support a family of 9, except go the law firm/lobbying route.

No.

As if lobbying is the only professional route for attorneys in Virginia. The most lucrative, obviously. Yes, "enough money" always excuses the rotating door from legislating to lobbying legislation. So you admit that you see no problem with members of Congress and of the Military retiring from office in order direct Boards and Lobby to profit from the legislation they sponsored.

How much is "enough money" to home school? Btw, Rick Santorum seems as far removed from his emigrant mining grandfather as you are since in all of his career, what has he accomplished to improve the working lot for miners, Nada? He blows his own horn so loud, we'd already know of the improved working conditions for miners or the non-profit charity for miners, or whatever good works (aside from his own personal success, on the taxpayer's dime, directly/indirectly) that he's achieved for the benefit of those who yet mine today. No, he left that world behind, washed his hands of hard work.

453 Guy Mohawk why don't you post just one of those taxes Romney raised.

454 ontherocks There were people arguing last night that ObamaCare is really not a big deal. They have no idea how it is strangling small business. We've also had people here say that they like RomneyCare they are not aware how the cost of it has ballooned past all projections, and is putting the state into debt.

455 (CNSNews.com) - Ener1--a company that manufactures batteries for electric cars, and that received $118.5 million in federal stimulus money, and that Vice President Joe Biden visited last year the day after President Obama’s State of the Union Address—announced today that it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. These campaign commercials are writing themselves, but will the Rhodes Scholars in the Republican Party start using them?

456

 rockmom at January 27, 2012 10:45 AM

 

Thanks for playing. Moby.

457 My idiot brother-in-law, a total Obamabot, is talking about moving to New Zealand, because "Boooosh screwed things up so badly that Obama would need at least a couple more terms to fix things."

So he voted for SCOAMF, still supports him, and doesn't think the fuckwit has done anything to make things worse.

The hate, it burns.

458 The singular issue that could unite a winning majority of Americans, the one program that has managed to get less popular since it's passing, the single most intrusive, coercive, and tyrannical law every passed against the American people (since the draft anyway) and our presumed candidate isn't going touch it. Posted by: runninrebel at January 27, 2012 10:47 AM (N/1Dm) ***** That about sums it up.

459 It will never be easier to repeal those parts of ObamaCare than it will be come January 2013. Never. So if it's too hard then, it will always be too hard. I was making two points: 1. Mitt was ONLY saying that Santorum should calm down. PERIOD. 2. If telling Santorum to calm down was such a huge gift to the Left, it seems to have utterly missed their attention.

460 #490 I never said I approved of what Santorum has done professionally, I think he is a big giant hypocrite and it took a lot of chutzpah for him to actually run for President under those circumstances.  Was just trying to explain it to those who don't know his history. 

461 The funniest moment in last night's debate?

2008 "Promise them anything; just get their votes!" loser Romney attacking 2012 Newt for stealing his line.

462 Posted by: rockmom at January 27, 2012 10:38 AM (aBlZ1)


Your optimism is much needed around here, and I truly pray you are right.  Every thread seems to turn to DOOM.  Gets quite depressing, especially when people on our side are facing such a bleak lineup of characters for the R nomination.  Hardly anyone has any passion for supporting any of them. Only resigned realization that we've got to vote ABO. 

463 Fuck Obama

464 I agree with rockmom and dear sweet jeebus she's not a Moby! insane

465

If Puerto Rico is so gung-ho to become the 51st state, why do they maintain their own set of Olympic athletes, and march into the stadium as a sovereign nation?

 

466 471....This nomination is worth having because whoever gets it is going to be the next President. ......

Posted by: rockmom at January 27, 2012 10:38 AM (aBlZ1)

.

So....you're agreeing that Newt could win just as easily as Mitt could.

.

The big problem that I have had with Romney, all along, is that the Dims and the JEF have been campaigning against "the evil rich" for years. .....So it seems insane to me, for us to give them the guy that they have already been campaigning against.

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Oh, and with Romney there is that added bonus of him being a Mormon. .....So they can replay all those anti-Mormon shows 24/7, in order to creep people out about him. 

467

I'm actually doing awesome. Had a great day yesterday talking to son's speech and reading support team and feeling really positive now.

What's going on? Tests? Catholic schools? Accomodations? I've been there and there and there and there. I know a few tricks. What's going on?

468 "Don't forget sending pound cake and raking the leaves and cleaning up after the riot . . . " Lime Jello was everywhere...

469 Crap, the wrong comment got copies and pasted. Try again: Ya, that's a weird standard. Posted by: tasker at January 27, 2012 10:39 AM (r2PLg) I was making two points: 1. Mitt was ONLY saying that Santorum should calm down. PERIOD. 2. If telling Santorum to calm down was such a huge gift to the Left, it seems to have utterly missed their attention.

470 Nixon, I know some ally of Romney's mentioned it but I think the campaign came back and said they are FOR repeal in full.

471 Polynikes why don't you do your own f'n homework?

472

BlackOrchidHeartlessAgain at January 27, 2012 10:52 AM

 

So you think $800 billion in new entitlement spending will fix Medicare and that if Romney did nothing with spending in DC that the economy will magically turn around?

 

Ok. You are entitled to your beliefs.

473 Romney telling Santorum to calm down about an issue a lot of us are mad about-I don't think that played as well as you think it did. The ad for any serious Republican is to show Republicans protesting ObamaCare in DC, or getting treated like dirt by Democrats at the ObamaCare town hall meetings and then switch to Romney: "Not worth getting angry about." It also plays badly to Romney's out of touch, too rich to get what everyone is mad about image.

474 We are all going to be assimilated into the Mittens borg now.

FML

475 Don't forget sending pound cake and raking the leaves and cleaning up after the riot . . . Posted by: alexthechick at January 27, 2012 10:45 AM (VtjlW) ------------------------------------------------------ It has been my experience with Christian riots that if you keep things tidy during the melee, then the cleanup afterwards is very manageable.

476 2. If telling Santorum to calm down was such a huge gift to the Left, it seems to have utterly missed their attention. Posted by: CoolCzech at January 27, 2012 10:54 AM (niZvt)\ ***** Oh that's the thing-it's not a huge gift to the Left. It's a gift to anyone that wants to repeal ObamaCare. In fact the point that Morning Joe doesn't want to make an issue of it perhaps proves that point. Romney makes it past the primary the Left is banking on a- truce over ObamaCare due to the mutual self interests of both Romney and Obama.

477

" I know some ally of Romney's mentioned it "

 

Norm Coleman is a campaign advisor for the Romney Campaign and has been mentioned as the possible HHS Secretary in a Romney Administration. He said it in a health care discussion during a interview.

478

511...."Not worth getting angry about."

......It also plays badly to Romney's out of touch, too rich to get what everyone is mad about image.

.

Yeah, tasker.....the arrogant dismissiveness of that remark was beyond cringeworthy.   

479 There is no tax increase you can post is the point.

480 Time to go get coffee....

481 >>There were people arguing last night that ObamaCare is really not a big deal. They have no idea how it is strangling small business.


The strangling of small businesses is one of the intended unintended consequences built in by the commiecrats.

You can't make everyone dependent on the government until you crush upwardly mobile middle class aspirations and its practical applications.

This marxist strategy in a national health mandate is a stealth feature for them and not a bug.

482 There were people arguing last night that ObamaCare is really not a big deal.

Yeah, the Community Efficiency Standards Panels will let people die slowly instead of shipping them to gas chambers. So it's not *really* Aktion T4...

483

Saying Obamacare is not worth getting angry about makes me angry enough to support Newt Gingrich.

484

From Boston.Com October 2007.

 

"

On the presidential campaign trail, Romney brags about a $3 billion budget shortfall he said he closed as governor, without any tax increases. He doesn't mention the more than $400 million in fees he raised instead. He also raised more than $300 million by closing so-called corporate loopholes, a revenue-raising measure the business community calls a tax increase.

"He should be held accountable for fee increases and closing the loopholes," said former Massachusetts governor Paul Cellucci, who now supports Rudy Giuliani in his bid to win the GOP nomination."

485 Yeah, tasker.....the arrogant dismissiveness of that remark was beyond cringeworthy. Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2012 11:00 AM (ALwK/) Thanks wheatie. Somebody gets it. My English is going. I decided to comment before coffee here. Not a good move.

486 hola dagny welp my son is in 1st. basically they did this DIBELs test - a federally-required standardized reading assessment - the first week of first grade. he didn't do very well! so they suggested he get reading support. the teacher in this case is pretty awesome (and his teacher is kind of . . .not) so I was happy to do it. a few of his friends (you know, boys who are just dumb and slow, j/k) also were doing it so . . . anyway he loved it actually and we thought made great progress. he also has speech therapy since preschool. that I'm afraid might be (like my own) just kind of pointless until he physically can grow out of those problems. but anyway. they took DIBELs again I think last week? and while I thought the year was going as well as it could be going with a terrible teacher (many bad incidents and I've documented them all, just in case, but I'm not alone with having problems) - basically he was invisible to his actual teacher and something happened to set me off (she forgot his "special student day" which he'd been waiting for, the alphabet screws my kids with stuff like that they're always last) just saying "hey could you please try to remember his special day?" to her set her off and suddenly he's been getting behavior notes and sent to the nurse for nothing and then she intimated his DIBELs score was so bad he was in serious trouble. i had a little freakout since I communicate with the speech/reading people pretty often and had no idea! so anyway the teacher sucks/he's fine/just getting thru the year

487 Sorry about format fail failure.
In more ways than one.



I would like to impale Yoshie on 5/8 rerod and urinate on his mug.

488 >>>>There is no tax increase you can post is the point.

Gee, who should I believe, you or Judge N.  Yeah, I think I know.

489

truce over ObamaCare due to the mutual self interests of both Romney and Obama.

 

----

 

I want a damn white riot if that happens. I want to burn a starbucks down and then go out for sushi.

490 Dick Nixon the fact is he raised no taxes. Closing tax breaks 'loopholes' for where they were not intended to be used is in no way raising taxes. in fact closing these loopholes is as conservative position as any.

491 I would just like to point out that if we're scared to repeal 100% of Obamacare because people won't be excited about losing their goodies then we might as well just throwing he towel because America is well and truly fucked. The pre-existing conditions and the adult child dependecy requirements are the parts that will royally screw the private insurance market. Are we really saying we need to keep those things because people might be unhappy? Seriously, folks we've got some serious shit that we're going to have to fundamentally alter or eliminate altogether- like SSI, Medicaid, Medicare, welfare, etc- in order to financially survive. That's going to involve taking some people's goodies away. If we really don't have the stomach to do it when it comes to Obamacare- which the plublic HATES by a good sized majority now- how the fuck are we gonna fix those other things?

492

So companies paying more taxes polynikes is not raising taxes.

 

Thanks for pointing that out. Have a great day.

493

"is as conservative position as any."

 

Like the individual mandate. Gotcha.

494 Posted by: runninrebel at January 27, 2012 11:09 AM (N/1Dm) I see what you did there.

495 >>That's going to involve taking some people's goodies away. If we really don't have the stomach to do it when it comes to Obamacare- which the plublic HATES by a good sized majority now- how the fuck are we gonna fix those other things?

Posted by: Mandy P. at January 27, 2012 11:07 AM (qFpRI)

I think that the preference cascade is colliding with the normalcy bias.

Hopefully good blogspeak like that will get ace up and at 'em.

496 If you folks could watch it and leave a comment ( Chris and Cori ), you could help put him over the top. Thanks

Posted by: Haze Gray at January 27, 2012 10:19 AM (bzsEk)

Done!  Very cute couple...Hope they win!

497 504 wheatie:  Oh, and with Romney there is that added bonus of him being a Mormon. .....So they can replay all those anti-Mormon shows24/7, in order to creeppeople out about him.

Mitt's answer to last night's religious faith affecting his presidential agenda question was disconcerting to the skeptic. Mitt reiterated his Mormon Missionary POTUS Faith of My Fathers grounds for his ultimate determinations directing our nation. Who has a link to that prepared "testimony" from last night?

Too many Republicans endorse Mitt's god-man-universal-creator self-image as the 21st Century revision of "American Global Exceptionalism" superimposed as better-than "grandiose" Newt. Such "exceptionalism" excuses the most heinous of crimes against  humanity, promoting "humanitarian" wars of genocide.

Sharp tongue and wit intact, Newt fell his own victim, proving a lie that deceit will conquer Obama-deceit in debate. Falling beneath Obamalite hardly qualifies Obamalite as America's champion against Obama's agenda. Rather, Newt simply illustrates the need for this election's oppositional candidate to be a man of constitutional integrity. 

And those advocating we forfeit the repeal of ObamaCare that's proven to ruin a healthy economy and bury a poor economy, this far away from Nov.2012, in the name of "sanity" proves another deceit. When ObamaCare taxation kicks in during these coming 4 years, doing nothing won't "overcome" the expenditures to augment this Depression's economic pain. Never fear, Obama said it best (for Obamalite), "I'm not afraid for my kids future."

AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE was a Democratic talking point leading up to the 2008 campaign, the name attached to Obama's unaffordable law. Republicans waited so long in a Party Agenda response, that even now reaching the end of January 2012, there STILL is no concise Republican Party unified legislation prepared (spearheaded by the Congressional Caucus of Physicians, the Tea Party House Caucus and Senate Caucus!) for a vote that will REPLACE the "law" of ObamaCare with what measures are proven that actually lower the cost of health care insurance. Vote the platform best supporting a strong economic recovery.

498 I'm so thrilled by this election's slate of  Republican candidates, so very thrilled that I'd love to invite the RNC to a formal dinner party where they could enjoy a fine meal after which I would share my "enthusiams" with them by applying a baseball bat to the back of their fucking heads because so far they've done a wonderful job ensuring SCoaMF/T's re-election.

499 Wow, Jeffery Lord sucks as a writer.
I tried to read his "Abrams is lying about Newt" article, but the writing is so crappy my eyes glaze over every time I look at it.  I got as far as this quote:
"President Reagan's strong rhetoric, which is adequate, and his administration's weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail."

You know what?  I don't give a shit who else also said that.  What I care about is that Newt did say that, and was completely wrong.
I also don't give a shit about "oohhh, all these people are being mean to Newt" whining.  Give me the facts, then give me your interpretation.
Lord didn't do that, so his article #FAILs.

500 Rockmom, with due respect you are settling when you do not have to. 

 I think you're out of your mind for thinking Mitt is a winner;  and I don't want him on my side.   The dog story alone will kill him in the general.