Good Morning Morons! Its Wednesday, January 4^th, 2012.  And it is a cold day in hell here this morning (16.4°F at 06:45).  On this day in 1965 LBJ outlined his plans for a “Great Society” in his State of the Union speech. Thus began the long slide into breakup of the black families.

Most of you already know the results from Iowa but for those that don't here it is.

I note from the previous threads a lot of Romneybots crowing. Yes, he wins Iowa beating the social con by 8 votes and then followed by the Dopecon, then the pseudocon.  I donÂ’t give Iowa a lot of emphasis. As I said yesterday it is largely a blue State.  A religious blue State if you will. One other thing, note the number of votes there. It looks like our votes for local county councilmen. ThatÂ’s another reason to discount these results.

In 2008 the social cons took it with Huckabee, followed by liberal Romney, then Fred Thompson, and McCain. We know going into the next one in NH favorite son Romney will win. Hell he has a house there.  Lets hope PerryÂ’s “re-assessment” lets him stay in the race until at least South Carolina. However F&F is reporting that he has already cancelled ALL of his SC events. (DonÂ’t know if I trust these people or not) His assessment should include the fact that Iowa and NH should not be going first anyway. As for now Bachmann and Hunstman should both drop out. If Bachmann couldnÂ’t do any better in Iowa she is doomed. Huntsman never had a chance anywhere and if it were not for daddyÂ’s money would already be gone.

South Carolina will be the first true test for the conservative candidates. But keep in mind, there is a strong religious con push there as well. But Perry should be able to do well in SC if he will get the message out about peopleÂ’s actual record.

Meanwhile Mrs Gardacil will not even reassess

She has zero chance so where is she getting money? DonÂ’t need any as long as the MFM is running those stupid debates.

Another case of burning irony

A state-appointed panel said Tuesday that California's plan to build a high-speed rail system in the state is not financially feasible and should be placed on hold.

They have already sucked in $3.5B in federal money from the rest of us for this POS boondoggle. If they do issue these bonds to pay for this crap guess who will buy them? In any account, any bets on whether or not Sacramento will build it anyway?

More lawbreaking by Obama administration.

This is pushing immigrant visas regardless of the evidence.

Here's a new one for you; murderer will not face the death penalty because he is "intellectually disabled".

I guess that means instead they will have to give him a job per the latest EEOC rulings.  What pisses me off is the judge is not even allowing the jury to make a decision on this.

ATF rulings on legality of guns is made in secret with no published criteria

This is not what the founders intended for our Republic. The executive department now rules by executive fiat largely through regulatory agencies like this. And congress either can not, or will not, reign them in.

NRO weighs in

Interesting factoid in this article about the “new” (never voted Republican before) voters who all went to Ron Paul and Romney.

Interesting take by The American Spectator on the MFM and the financial collapse

And that’s about it for news this morning. Again, Iowa caucuses sucking on the O2 out of the news this morning. And yes, F&F pushing Romney as hard as they can. The key today is “electability” which I must throw the BS flag on.

I think he is the most unelectable candidate because 75% of the party can not stand him. It will be 2008 all over again as he wins with a plurality because the rest of the Republican vote is split. States like VA which were very damn close in 2008 will go once again to Obama because some percentage of the base sits it out because they hate Romney.

Posted by: alppuccino at January 04, 2012 06:59 AM (VP5yx)

Hell why not. They already had Clinton's old adviser on pushing Romney as hard as he could.

Posted by: Rick Santorum at January 04, 2012 06:56 AM (tJa5V)

And just think - if you hadn't run for re-election, you could say you were an electability candidate, like me.

Man-made climate change? Liberal hogwash, says Rick Santorum.

LOL, he has attacked the warmies very hard. He has been very outspoken and harsh on the AGW people. No beating around the bush here even if it is nothing but rhetoric. He also voted no on the 2003 cap and trade bill in the Senate.  I give him a plus here on the AGW fraud. 

He has a strong record on supporting the 2^nd amendment in both deeds and rhetoric. He gets a strong plus here.

Small government in general (spending and regulation)

Club for Growth rates him high on opposing taxes and voting many times for tax cuts and against tax hikes. However, on spending they give him a mixed record. His initial record was very good in opposing spending until the Bush years came along. There he supported BushÂ’s spending programs, No Child, the Drug program, TARP etc. He also gets bad marks for supporting earmarks, but that is 99% of them. Its hard to fault him for supporting a Republican President but it is a negative.  Note that CFG may be wrong on the Bush drug vote. The “On the Issues” site says he voted against it.

On regulation they give him a mixed record having flip-flopped on a couple of issues like ethanol mandates and Housing regulations. He also voted for Sarbannes-Oxely which was a huge POS. He gets no plus for me in this one.

So overall, his record on small government is mixed. Good on taxes, mixed on spending mainly due to Bush, and I would actually say poor on regulations.

Overall negative here.

He has been very outspoken against Obamacare and Macare. His record in both votes and rhetoric shows heavy opposition to public funding of medical coverage. He gets strong points here.

Has an outstanding record on this issue. Voted no on the McCain amnesty bill of 2006 (remember that this passed the Senate but he voted against it). He has consistently called for closing the border and stopping the flood. Both deeds and rhetoric are good here. Strong plus.

Strong pro-life record and rhetoric. He has been a consistent supporter of right to life. Strong plus here. Overall, he is a strong social-con.

I was VERY surprised by this evaluation. I had expected Santorum to come up as mainly a social-con and weaker in the other areas. Not so, except for the negative in small government, he is solid pluses in everything else.

5 good 1 Negative

If I was surprised by this eval think about the average voter who doesnÂ’t keep track of politicians the way we do here. It is no wonder he is not leading in the polls.  People just donÂ’t know about him. It is still name recognition this early in the primaries.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2012 06:56 AM (YdQQY)

Let 'em build it...railroads draw hobos; they'll be creating another hobo hunting ground.  Good morning, Vic.

Perry came into this with the perfect resume, he was showered immediately with money and then he proceeded to blow it at every opportunity.  He wasnÂ’t the victim of other candidates or unfair MSM characterizations, he did it all by himself.

Now after this loss heÂ’s turning tail and running back to Texas with a few million left in the bank.  HeÂ’s a natural for South Carolina and Florida, but it appears heÂ’s too fucking stupid to stay in. 

Maybe itÂ’s best heÂ’s leaving.

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2012 07:13 AM (60EzG)

Morning

The problem is we will wind up paying for it. If it was all coming out of CA pockets I would say fine, have at it you idiots.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2012 07:13 AM (Gc/Qi)

Well, if Perry does drop out before SC votes I may go for Santorum. I will not vote for gun grabber Mutt.

Posted by: Mmmmerrika, Fuck Yeah! at January 04, 2012 07:11 AM (tJa5V)

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 07:16 AM (zLeKL)

You're welcome. I had posted it months ago but figured it was more relevant now. 

Anyway. Need to go start getting ready for my trip to The City. be back in a few minutes.

Posted by: Rick Santorum at January 04, 2012 07:19 AM (tJa5V)

And here, a picture-perfect example of being a classless asshole.

If I were to take a stab at who you were supporting, I'd say it's the guy who said he wouldn't kill Bin Laden if it meant violating Pakistan's sovereignty.

The only real conservative candidate came in with 11% of the vote in Iowa? WTF?

I shouldn't be too upset. After all, this is the country that stupidly managed to vote in an avowed Marxist/Socialist to the highest office in the land three years ago.

Shit. We are so boned. This is going to be 2008 all over again, with a weak candidate who only spouts poll-tested words, with no real foundation of beliefs. Hold nose, pull lever once more. Center-right country indeed...

At least, he's not the SCOAMF.

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2012 07:29 AM (60EzG)

The Ronulans are pissy this morning.  I wonder why.

#49 You're a sick fuck. Get off this site. I'm not in the mood to listen to your bullshit this morning, and neither is anyone else.

Banhammer.

Jwest, I guess your girl told you not to marginalize Paul, but she never said anything about continuing the pointless "Perry is dumb" meme. But you keep at it. Go down to Texas if you need to, I hear Cindy Sheehan has a nice place she can show you where to set up your "I hate Perry" shop.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2012 07:19 AM (Gc/Qi)

Hey, this was an acquired talent.  I learned how to accept democrat talking points to beat down good people right here at AoSHQ. 

Apparently, it helps the cause to destroy candidates and to insult supporters when trying to persuade people to switch.

'Then Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum thought enough of Jerry Sandusky nine years ago to sponsor the former Penn State defense coordinator for a “Congressional Angels in Adoption” award, citing his work with a non-profit group he founded to provide care for foster children.'

He gave the guy an award because he posed as a do-gooder and you tar Santorum as a pedo lover?

Dick move.

Posted by: Troll Gingrich at December 27, 2011 12:08 PM (tJa5V)

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Send this asshole packing!

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2012 07:31 AM (60EzG)

I think he means this.

http://tinyurl.com/6qw8lah

(Sorry, FF is all jacked up right now and I can't post it as a link.)

She's refering to Paul's stance on fiscal issues. 

Oh well, I'm off to the salt mine. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place.

And be strong, Vic. We're pulling for you and moki too.

Ah, Santorum is gaining on Romney so we must, must, MUST tar and feather him in every way possible! 

Jaysus.

Hey Vic, good luck today.

Good morning, 'rons and 'ettes.  Pretty damn chilly here in NoVA today.

I'm a little surprised at how well Santorum did.  Interesting. Frankly, I'd prefer a candidate with more experience running things but if Perry drops out (please God no), I'll support Santorum. 

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 07:41 AM (FKQng)

Well if he gets out where will the "conservative" vote go. The only one left who we might call a conservative is Santorum and he is only electable from a social con side, if even at that, outside of 30K votes in Iowa. 

Hell, he can't even get elected in his own home State.

Vic, thanks for the Santorum analysis and the Am Spectator article link. No question the MFM will spin this as "Wall Street greed" all the way if it comes down to a choice between government and WS as the primary cause of the financial debacle.

And #49, yeah, your useless post contributes nothing. Probably the most unproductive and stupid troll post I've seen here in the four years I've been following this site. First time I've ever voted Yes for banhammer. 

Got it. Still, no comment about your girl jumping on the Paul bandwagon? That doesn't move your meter, even a little?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2012 07:45 AM (Gc/Qi)

After deep thought, IÂ’m beginning to think youÂ’re right.

Instead of trying to bring Paul voters over, we should hammer Paul as a Nazi and point out how incredibly fucking stupid his supporters are so that they will realize our candidate is better. 

Yeah, thatÂ’s the ticket.  I feel smarter already.

Posted by: Chris at January 04, 2012 07:47 AM (XGZYX)

Well Miss Cleo, what other prognostications do you have for we lowly members of the proletariat?

Hell, he can't even get elected in his own home State.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2012 07:49 AM (YdQQY)

Well, I think he'll melt under scrutiny easily. I think it'll be Newt who comes back. This time, hurting Romney. I hate that fuck.

Posted by: soothsayer as The Beaver at January 04, 2012 07:56 AM (KUrJA)

If he had come in first he still wouldn't be.  An Iowa straw poll isn't a good representation of the GOP.

We need to peel off the Paul supporters who are just ignorant, not insane.

Posted by: nickless at January 04, 2012 07:58 AM (MMC8r)

YouÂ’ve restored my faith in the intelligence of AoS comments.

This is pushing immigrant visas regardless of the evidence.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

Unless there is a bias against Filipina immigrants, I personally see no evidence of this. Cicero Kid has seen hundreds of k-1 visas issued over the years averaging 8 months. This time frame has remained consistent.

Posted by: phoenixgirl all in for perry at January 04, 2012 07:52 AM (Ho2rs)

I didn't get that out of that clip; what I heard was she was boosting Dr Crazy based strictly on his fiscal policies, which are the only things he says which are at all attractive to me.  What she says makes sense to me strategically because, as irritating as the Paultards can be, sending even the partially sane ones packing doesn't sound like a winning plan.  And keeping the drumbeat to cut spending in case Willard gets elected would provide guidance to his malleable principles.

For a week maybe.  Ron wasn't gonna win NH, and then he wouldn't be relevant anymore.

Posted by: nickless at January 04, 2012 07:58 AM (MMC8r)

...how many people make up .00000000000000000001%?

Posted by: Too Sexy for Santorum at January 04, 2012 07:27 AM (tJa5V)

Jeez Louise! What does it take to get banned around here? Never mind, I don't want to know.

Jeez Louise! What does it take to get banned around here? Never mind, I don't want to know.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 04, 2012 08:06 AM (kWFP3)

The cat piss queen has stuck around despite making no posts indicating any level of intelligence; and ace claims complete ignorance/maximum tolerance on her trollish behavior.  The place is turning into complete fucking garbage.  Hot Air v2.0

I didn't get that out of that clip; what I heard was she was boosting Dr Crazy based strictly on his fiscal policies, which are the only things he says which are at all attractive to me. 

Finance Medicare with "all that foreign stuff."  Yes, that is an incredibly well-thought out policy.

Look!  A Yeti!

DES MOINES, IA—With a majority of precincts reporting, sources have confirmed a 600-pound recreation of a dairy cow sculpted entirely from freshly churned butter has won the 2012 Iowa Caucus.

Sweet manna from heaven!

In essence Palin was saying the party needs to pull Paul supporters back into the fold.

Tell me how to do that while being, you know, Republican.  And sane.

In essence Palin was saying the party needs to pull Paul supporters back into the fold.

Tell me how to do that while being, you know, Republican.  And sane.

Well, the theory is that there are Paul supporters who are not insane.

You know, like there are moderate Muslims...

then the field you see in 2016 will be markedly better than this field.

If we don't win this year, there may not be an election in 2016.

I somewhat agree, but it would never lead to vote for a nutball like Ron Paul!

Yeah, Iran with the bomb would be nothing big.

Idiots like you, Chi-town, learned exactly zilch from the last century.  Congrats on that.

Ben's gonna have eat crow now (and I don't mean that in an asshole way so I apologize if it came out that way). In the Iowa Results Prediction thread Ben thought Perry would finish 3rd and I predicted he'd finish 5th, guess I was right. He even stated that he thought Huntsman would do better then Bachmann. Again, I got that right and he got it wrong, Huntsman was dead last.

No to toot my horn but here's my final prediction from yesterday's thread:

"wow you folks still think that Perry can finish 3rd much less 4th?

1. Romney - by the skin of his teeth

2. Santorum

3. Paul

4. Gingrich

5. Perry

6. Bachmann

7. Huntsman

no one drops out tonight and Ill shock everyone and pick NH already - Romney wins it

the race truly begins in SC

and yes i'll be prepared to happily eat crow if Perry places 3rd or 4th"

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 03, 2012 12:24 PM (yAor6)

*looks over*

yep a perfect 7 for 7

move over Nate Silver...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 08:18 AM (8y9MW)

See!...THIS is what I'm talking about!...straight, definitive and to the point!

and if this means its Santorum VS Mitt, then the none-Romneys managed to get one of the few who'd make me back Mitt in the primary

Yeah, Iran with the bomb would be nothing big.

Idiots like you, Chi-town, learned exactly zilch from the last century.  Congrats on that.

It is going to be real hard to turn a 14.2 trillion dollar economy into one where you are trading blow jobs for toilet paper around the trashcan fire.

Black swan.  That's all it will take.

I hate to say it, but Perry now has to drop out, along with Bachmann and Huntsman.  I guess that makes Santorum my new guy (unless Perry doesn't actually get out- but he should).

Why Perry, et al and not Newt?  I'm seeing a lot of discussions about that and I'm a bit confused as to why Newt's not also on that list. 

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 08:21 AM (zLeKL)

trust me it was hard to come to that realization after running around and looking at all the candidates I was just gonna vote for Perry even knowing he'd lose here in FL but it seems he'll drop out before then if the rumors are true

Posted by: alexthechick at January 04, 2012 08:22 AM (VtjlW)

Cause I have BOOKS to sell, that's why!

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2012 08:23 AM (60EzG)

yes according to Beck Santorum is our next George Washington

Now, are we going to have a super-sized Japan-style "lost decade"....I can buy that.

At 48 years old I can scarcely afford to lose a decade.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 08:25 AM (yAor6)

...and I thought I lived in the past...sheeesh.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 04, 2012 08:22 AM (UTq/I)

That sounds like an El JEFe stump speech only with fewer "uhh"s.

Why?  What's so wrong with Santorum?

he'd get his ass handed to him by Obama

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at January 04, 2012 08:32 AM (hRH92)

well that's one thing Ben got right over me, I really doubted she'd drop out this early so she could help her boy Romney

Ill be suprised if Perry drops out before SC too

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 04, 2012 08:20 AM (9AVhU)

Happy New Year to you and yours, too...and let's do that, Captain...btw, avoid driving near Shaker today...although, I'm sure you know that already!

Let's say it together:

ROMNEY STOLE IT

Just kidding. But seriously, it struck me as a little suspicious that they suddenly found new votes in his favor in that one county. At least that's what was said last night.

btw Debbie Walscherrmun Schultz (spelling?) was spilling out the Mitt is an evil capitalist who took jobs from people talking points this morning and when Gretchen called her out on her lie that Romney hadn't created jobs in MA and that Obama had seen a minus in jobs under his tenure she simply called it made up facts

made up facts, the cop-out my brother loves to use and app. this bitch too, so embarassed she's from my state

*facepalm*

Let's say it together:

ROMNEY STOLE IT

Just kidding. But seriously, it struck me as a little suspicious that they suddenly found new votes in his favor in that one county. At least that's what was said last night.

Posted by: Chris at January 04, 2012 08:37 AM (XGZYX)

Ron Paul aides and infowars are out claiming the caucus was stolen

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 08:38 AM (FKQng)

I'm thinking Santorum...

157....

exactly....but,unfortunately,this primary was decided long ago.....everything that`s happened is all window dressing(candidates getting nixed from ballots/caucases in which it takes 3 hours to "count" enough votes in the final one percent  to get mittens an 8 vote edge).....

mitt`s the heir apparent to mccain(they`re interchangable,much like alec guiness and david niven)..........even if you were huffing spot remover non-stop in a gas station bathroom for the last week and a half,i`m sure you realize this by now...no need to rock the boat....

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 08:40 AM (8y9MW)

you live in Texas, the GOP nominee wil win that state even if Obama has an economic boom come Nov., I live in FL, electability matters

plus santorum would utterly embarass me when I try to get my liberterian friends to hold their nose and vote GOP in November

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 08:44 AM (TCgts)

his strong stance on social issues will also create wedges and lose us votes we could have won, the one issue voter stupidity is strong out there

221..

err,that was "caucuses"...lol

in 2006 Santorum lost his home state by 19 points

in 2008 McCain lost the same state by 10 points

yep, Santorum can beat Obama...

right now I think Mitt, Perry, and Newt can beat Obama. I see no road to victory for Santorum

Happy New Year to you and yours, too...and let's do that, Captain...btw, avoid driving near Shaker today...although, I'm sure you know that already!

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2012 08:36 AM (60EzG)

Yeah the local talking heads have been all over that garbage as if they're not showing their provincial stupidity by not realizing that this is one of the areas too fucking dumb to boo that cocksucker out of the building.  If it weren't for the fact that I wouldn't cross the street to see that product of polygamy electrocuted, I'd have taken my Airedale over to shit all over the sidewalk.

@ 227 his strong stance on social issues will also create wedges and lose us votes we could have won, the one issue voter stupidity is strong out there

I agree - it's a shame that single issue economic voters are too stupid to put aside petty differences and get together to help beat Obama.

his strong stance on social issues will also create wedges and lose us votes we could have won, the one issue voter stupidity is strong out there

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 08:46 AM (yAor6)

He was my senator did not like him but would vote for anyone but Mitt. That said, Santorum will crash like today or so and it'll be Newt vs Romney. Newt at least has some conservative accomplishments, a liberal punching goodness, and debating skills.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 08:49 AM (8y9MW)

I want to beat Obama so I pick the most electable that matches by values. Rick Perry is electable, I dont see it w/ Santorum. and Santorum and me dont match at all as far as social issues so me and him probably disagree more then I do w/ Mitt. maybe it's tie.

Burrito. Taco taco. Burrito. Taco. Taco taco.

Don't think just because I got a lot of money,

I'll give you taco-flavored kisses, honey.

Fulfill all your wishes

with my taco-flavored kisses.

 
Taco taco. Burrito burrito. Taco taco.

Fulfill all your wishes

with my taco-flavored kisses! Taco taco.

Very disappointed  about Perry but he got his ticket punched to Austin the old fashioned way- he earned it.

John Connolly 2.0

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 08:52 AM (8y9MW)

it's not what I think, it's what the polls show. I cant even google Santorum's name w/o disgusting crap coming up. The guy is more polarizing then freaking Dubya.

I want to stop Obama, telling myself I lost with dignity because I backed some guy who decided to rant over social issues over the economy is not the choice i'm going for.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 04, 2012 08:50 AM (GZitp)

Very disappointed  about Perry but he got his ticket punched to Austin the old fashioned way- he earned it.

John Connolly 2.0

Posted by: jjshaka at January 04, 2012 08:54 AM (Lih5P)

it wasn't his horrible debates that got him, once he uttered "heartless" it was all downhill from there on

Posted by: Mmmmerrika, Fuck Yeah! at January 04, 2012 07:11 AM (tJa5V)

Prior to his arrest, however, John Wayne Gacy was known as a beloved childrenÂ’s party entertainer, respected businessman, three-time Jaycee Man of the Year, and Democratic Party precinct captain. It was in this latter capacity that he finagled a meeting with First Lady Rosalynn Carter on May 6, 1978.

in 2008 McCain lost the same state by 10 points

yep, Santorum can beat Obama...

right now I think Mitt, Perry, and Newt can beat Obama. I see no road to victory for Santorum

Sort of a simplistic analysis.  Santorum lost by 19 points in about the worst Republican year on modern record, to a Democrat who ran as a social conservative and blue-collar paladin in a socially-conservative, blue collar state with a strong tradition of Democrat politics.  I mean, these are the people who still elect John Murtha's hand-picked successor because he says he's socially conservative and supports da woikin' man. 

Further, we don't actually need Pennsylvania to win.  Nice to have, but we don't necessarily need the state.  Ohio and Florida, yes, but PA not so much so, since the GOP has already managed to build winning EV structures without it.

This all being said, while I may agree more with Santorum on social issues, Newt's still my guy.

Iowa has not been an arbiter of the final winner for quite a while now.  If it were, then Huckabee would have been our nominee in 2008.  Santorum will fade after poor showings in NH, WY, and MI.  Romney will still truck along with his standard 25%.  Paul will still truck in the Dems and liberaltarian "independents" to pack the open primaries and caucuses until he runs up against the brick wall of later closed primaries, after which his perceived support base will evapourate.  Hopefully, second and third tier candidates like Perry and Bachmann will do the right thing and drop out, and I suspect most of their supporters will go to Gingrich by default.

it wasn't his horrible debates that got him, once he uttered "heartless" it was all downhill from there on

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 08:56 AM (yAor6)

Yet I get to affirm my support of obama care jr. and still get support!

If I was surprised by this eval think about the average voter who doesnÂ’t keep track of politicians the way we do here. It is no wonder he is not leading in the polls.  People just donÂ’t know about him. It is still name recognition this early in the primaries.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2012 07:07 AM (YdQQY)

Prior to his arrest, however, John Wayne Gacy was known as a beloved childrenÂ’s party entertainer, respected businessman, three-time Jaycee Man of the Year, and Democratic Party precinct captain. It was in this latter capacity that he finagled a meeting with First Lady Rosalynn Carter on May 6, 1978.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2012 08:57 AM (1Jaio)

All in all they're just, some more kids in my walls.

201 I don't see why Perry should drop out. The Iowans are obviously retards. Hell, they had as many votes for Mr. Gardengnomeantiiraqwartard as they did for Mitt. Maybe SC will balance things out.

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 08:39 AM (TCgts)

Dagny, youÂ’re right.  Iowa means nothing and New Hampshire is already preordained for Mitt.  Perry could have had a “Comeback Kid” moment in South Carolina and Florida – except for one thingÂ…

HeÂ’s too fucking stupid.

Instead of waiting until the morning to reassess what the big picture was, he went up and made that “IÂ’m going back to Texas” speech.  Has there ever been someone with less political instincts than this guy?  All he did was magnify his loss and signal heÂ’s not someone who can fight through adversity.

Posted by: John Galt at January 04, 2012 09:03 AM (80GjT)

SURRENDER SCOAMF!

268.

This- last nights speech by Perry was a de facto surrender before the game was over. Better to know now that he didn't have the intestinal fortitude to fight.

At least Newt won't roll over.

He didn't have a choice! All those frivilious ethic complaints were going to bankrupt the poor man's campaign funds.......oh wait, sorry, wrong excuse for the wrong conservative.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at January 04, 2012 09:07 AM (OWjjx)

The difference here is my gal still matters.  Your guy is toast.

Are you talking about Bachmann or Palin?

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 09:12 AM (zLeKL)

I’ve never even considered “crazy eyes” as a viable candidate.

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 09:12 AM (zLeKL)

Either one is irrelevant, mention the last time Palin was discussed by...well anyone.  Memo to Sarah, they aren't talking about you anymore

Posted by: davidinvirginia at January 04, 2012 09:10 AM (AVhQG)

Dave; agree with this post 100% except for your characterization of Congressman Paul.

this is the weakest field in my lifetime. the names you mentioned that did not try to run have definitely let us down.

mew, mew, John Batchelor says Beck says Perry and bachmann are dropping out, meooooowww.

Purrrr

Posted by: dip theory ah at January 04, 2012 09:16 AM (oZfic)

I dont care what Beck thinks.

Posted by: phoenixgirl all in for perry at January 04, 2012 09:17 AM (Ho2rs)

WHO LET THE CAT IN?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 04, 2012 09:18 AM (vzFJV)

oh dont you dare call out the co-bloggers for not banning a known troll because they know better,  now hit the fucking tip jar/sarc

323 Oh gawd, it is trying to play 7 dimensional chess.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at January 04, 2012 09:20 AM (OWjjx)

Apparently, there are still people who believe the democrat candidate is going to be Barack Obama.

The game of checkers ended last night.  You lost.

Posted by: phoenixgirl all in for perry at January 04, 2012 09:26 AM (Ho2rs)

curious saying she doesnt take kindly to threats is a great example of pot calling the kettle black

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 09:21 AM (TCgts)

Great points.  My youngest Hatette went to Columbia and it was an almost complete waste of a huge amount of money.  She was even complaining about the poor quality of it while she was going there.  The only positive thing about it would be that it puts a person in a network that can be used advantageously, at which she's been an almost complete failure.

Well, on the up side, if Mitt loses the general election, at least we'll be rid of him.

Posted by: tsj017 at January 04, 2012 09:29 AM (cxNGG)

that struck me as possible as well with him, it seems folks suddenly told him to run and he ran w/o a clear plan to win. I think they tried the same with Christie and he simply didn't feel ready.

For your information, I probably have more education than most people on this site, isn't it obvious or are you blinded by your "old people gang mentality"?

Wait, did someone tell her that Glenn Beck thought that was a good reply?

Posted by: tsj017 at January 04, 2012 09:29 AM (cxNGG)

Perry had a much, much better shot than Thompson did.  He's the great tragedy of 2011.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 04, 2012 09:30 AM (hWRjQ

you know what's fucking pitiful polynikes? an asshole like you who rather bash folks for not supporting Mitt then trying to make a case for him, and calling folks like me who have been fair to Mitt a curious-like troll. Go take your Rubin-like mancrush elsewhere buck.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 04, 2012 09:18 AM (vzFJV)

Did you call it last night?   I said 7 votes in favor of Santorum.  Ok so it turned out to be 8 votes in favor of Romney but, it's not certified yet.   And  no one in the media had a clue at the time I predicted this.

Bother you that I'm not completely in the tank for your candidate?

Posted by: BAHA MEN at January 04, 2012 09:30 AM (60EzG)

Rick Santorum, I will look again.

Endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey.

Has no executive experience.

I don't need to look more.

Posted by: phoenixgirl all in for perry at January 04, 2012 09:35 AM (Ho2rs)

seriously i'm sick and tired of this dickish behavior by the Romneybots. Polynikes calling me a troll, JackStraw making comments that Perry voters are dumb hicks, Jeff B's lecturing look down at you comments, and War of the Undead states hiding behind socks to insult other candidates. Im sick of it all.

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 09:38 AM (zLeKL)

Same here re: Perry/Gingrich...which, I suppose, pretty much guarantees Newt will be the next to drop out...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 09:32 AM (TCgts)

All good then!...are you still in NC, dagny?

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2012 06:59 AM (YdQQY)

You're overstating the case. As a Mormon from Massachusetts, a moderate Northeastern Republican, Romney and his people knew from the beginning they could never hope to capture the conservative base. Stating the obvious, their hope is and always has been to cultivate and harvest GOP moderates while keeping the conservative vote spread among their more right-wing opponents. I won't break it down into demographic subcategories because it would all be guesswork on my part, anyway. Let wonks do that.

Romney's biggest problem, should he win the GOP nomination, is generating the enthusiasm on election day it will take to beat the Democratic GOTV effort, which is always well-coordinated and--this year--lavishly funded. Whole armies of the dead will rise from the grave to vote Democratic. That ground-game enthusiasm usually comes from the base, conservatives like me who would sooner die than vote for a Democrat. The only thing that could bring out the base would be a smart VP pick like Rubio or Ryan. Christi, so beloved of Ann Coulter, might get the nod but then what? Two moderate Northeastern Republicans?

With Perry gone, Gingrich is Romney's only serious competitor. I personally don't think Santorum poses a real threat unless Santorum is ready to go to every county in every state in the country as he did in Iowa. However, Santorum is nothing if not determined. I wouldn't doubt he's already planning to visit every county in every state in the country just as he did in Iowa. I honestly like Santorum myself, but don't give much for his electability. I don't think people realize how much Santorum is hated on the Left, which is almost as much as they hate Palin. They even use his surname as a euphemism for the sexual detritus resulting from anal sex. Don't ask. Anyway, a Santorum candidacy in the general election would galvanize the liberal Democratic base and that, to me, seems like bad strategy in what is certain to be a close election. The winning idea is to motivate one's base while depressing the base of one's opponent. Santorum is like catnip to those guys.

And Gingrich? Gingrich is temperamental, impulsive, and undisciplined. He's thin-skinned to criticism and absolutely hates being slighted or ridiculed. I'm convinced Gingrich was the fat kid in class in grade school and high school who coped with bullies by telling himself he was always the smartest kid in the room. Push him hard enough, he'll pout, seriously. I've seen him do it, back when Clinton was President and had Gingrich seated in the back of Air Force One, across from the crew latrine. And Gingrich will do it again on live national television, should Romney or a Romney surrogate push the right buttons.

As an aside, Ron Paul is a great gift to the Romney campaign, locking up votes that might go to more viable and traditional opponents. If Ron Paul didn't exist, Romney and other super-seekrit members of the Illuminati and the Trilateral Commission would create him in one of their secret laboratories.

It's going to be a long year.

Bwahahahaha!!!

One of my right-leaning female co-workers who otherwise isn't all too ideological just suggested to me re: Romney, "If we're going to nominate a Republican like Romney who doesn't seem to have any inclnation of preventing the looming financial disaster, wouldn't we be better just voting for Obama so he takes all the blame?"

I swear, I've never suggested this to her!

Hey, Vic, got any links on where he stands on the 10th A? 

Allen, link in my name to Rick vs. Rick in November.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 04, 2012 09:35 AM (hWRjQ)

really fucker? and you think folks will give a crap about you fucker? I disagree with folks here on social issues, in who to back, and in other areas. yet I dont come off like the prick that a fucker like you does. I manage to get some folks who never agree with me to want me around at the blog. Why haven't you pulled that off? Oh yeah because you rather be a prick and be conceited then actually be part of a conversation and get to like people at the blog you go to. fuck you

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 09:42 AM (TCgts)

Imagine my confusion and surprise when a friend informed me (with great pride) she attended Meredith...I was like, yeah, uh-huh, what, where?

Posted by: franksalterego at January 04, 2012 09:40 AM (9XykO)

Endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey.

Has no executive experience.

I don't need to look more.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 04, 2012 09:37 AM (B+qrE)

NH becomes pretty interesting now. Gingrich needs to finish 2nd to remain viable, although if he were to finish a very very close 3rd behind Paul he might be OK, but if he finishes a distant 3rd or even 4th then I think he's done. If Santorum can parlay his Iowa result into at least a 3rd place finish he might stay alive for a few more weeks.

A lot depends on what Bachmann and Perry decide. If they drop out they leave somewhere between 5-10% of the vote for another candidate. Would those people shift to Santorum?

One other thing to keep in mind is that RCP shows the most recent polls from SC and FL being almost two weeks old. Both of those polls had Gingrich doing well, especially in SC, but a lot may have changed since then.

Imagine my confusion and surprise when a friend informed me (with great pride) she attended Meredith...I was like, yeah, uh-huh, what, where?

Posted by: billygoat at January 04, 2012 09:44 AM (60EzG)

She is a lovely and charming lady, though...and very Southern.

My predictions from yesterday's thread. Sadly it seems that I'm no Nostradamus.

Romney 25%
Paul 20%
Santorum 15%
Perry 15%
Gingrich 10%
Bachman 10%
Huntsman 5%

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 04, 2012 09:46 AM (Qjh0I)

should have read me dude, I got 7 for 7

Posted by: nickless at January 04, 2012 07:58 AM (MMC8r).

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 09:45 AM (vuzx2)

...friends, friends, FRIENDS!...let's all get behind this good and decent man who will run an above the belt campaign!

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 09:43 AM (FKQng)

Posted by: phoenixgirl all in for perry at January 04, 2012 09:49 AM (Ho2rs)

not that he'd have to because come summer I believe the Supreme Court will strike it down, so I actually think the conversation come Nov 2012 will be why was Obamas bill struck down

Vic and others that hold the same "we are doomed with Romney" point of view:

He's not my favorite, but some of you are unwittingly buying the line that the media and the Obama camp want you to believe.  I don't think it's going to be close.  I don't think a capable Republican can lose in 2012.  Reason?  Far too little has been made of the absolute catastrophe 2010 was for the Democrats.  Math, the economy, and independents are on our side this time.  And in the case of Virginia, Romney will pick Bob McDonell as his running mate.  Problem solved.

And yeah, we got a reprieve from a Paul win because that would have been a bad, bad thing. 

ATLANTA (AP) — Former President Jimmy Carter has some advice for Barack Obama as he gears up for the 2012 election: Don't alienate voters with controversial positions.

The Georgia Democrat told The Associated Press on Tuesday that just about everything he did alienated voters, from sealing a treaty to hand over the Panama Canal to establishing diplomatic ties with China.

Carter said: "If your main goal is to get re-elected, avoid a controversial subject as much as you can in the first term."

Jimmah is telling Barry with less than one year to go before the election to avoid controversial positions. Based on this Barry ought to hire Jimmah as his campaign manager

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 09:50 AM (zLeKL)

if Perry stays in the race he MUST put all his eggs in the SC basket, he MUST win there to pull it off IMHO

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2012 09:52 AM (OlN4e)

Bachmann supporters prob run to Santorum and Perry's to Newt

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2012 09:52 AM (OlN4e)

Santorum would be my guess. I think it's finally dawning on everybody that if we're going to have a not-Mitt it has to be soon.

I do come down on the State side of things, but I can at least see some reasonable arguments from the other side.  But it's not a good sign that he was so vehement about it.

Did you read the Nat'l Review link in #205?

He never met an earmark that he didn’t like. In fact, it wasn’t just earmarks for his own state that he favored, which might be forgiven as pure electoral pragmatism, but earmarks for everyone, including the notorious “Bridge to Nowhere.” The quintessential Washington insider, he worked closely with Tom DeLay to set up the “K Street Project,” linking lobbyists with the GOP leadership.

He voted against NAFTA and has long opposed free trade. He backed higher tariffs on everything from steel to honey. He still supports an industrial policy with the government tilting the playing field toward manufacturing industries and picking winners and losers.

I'm not sure what I think about him.

Either one is irrelevant, mention the last time Palin was discussed by...well anyone.  Memo to Sarah, they aren't talking about you anymore

Posted by: Red Shirt at January 04, 2012 09:14 AM (FIDMq)

HBO is about it, but they don't really count.

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 09:51 AM (TCgts)

Smells like patchouli and hemp there...lots and lots of patchouli and hemp.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 04, 2012 09:45 AM (7+pP9)

Because what the country needs is another no executive experience Senator as President.

Also, you made a point yesterday of confirming your pride in your ID, so excuse me if I say eff off.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 04, 2012 09:51 AM (7+pP9)

I havent seen anything yet as a PA resident

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 04, 2012 09:56 AM (Qjh0I)

im gonna give out my secret...Real ClearPolitics average, it really helps in seeing how things are gonna shake up, though they did have Paul #2 and Santorum #3. I just ventured to guess Paul's actual base numbers are overblowned and they proved to be.

Posted by: Earth Bound Misfit at January 04, 2012 09:52 AM (jiwQf)

Yes, of course I'm going to believe the head of a foreign spy agency when he releases the occasional public statement or press release regarding the non-threatening nature of a mortal enemy's acquisition of a nuclear bomb. That's how I roll.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2012 09:52 AM (OlN4e)

 If Paul keeps up his ground game for delegates, and can stay within three to five points of the leader(s), he'll be a player when the convention circus comes to town. Yeah, Paul's been grabbing delegates all over the nation, while the rest of 'em focus on ads, polls and news cycles. (Hor Air has an article on it, but that's not the first one I've seen or read.)

 I'm also stymied by something else... if Newt's past extra-marital flings - and multiple wives - aren't a show stopper, why were Cain's past flings such a show stopping detriment to his campaign? No, I know it wasn't because he was black...because he was just about the only RNC outsider in the mix, perhaps?

 (Personally, I'm wondering how a RINO Romney can win against an incumbent Obama...especially if O takes the low road and starts another war somewhre in order to bump his poll numbers a bit...Don't laugh. It's worked for others, in the past.)

Oh, and allow me to note that Ace's blog software sucks the monkey member and suggest that he go to WordPress or something.

Yeh, buy it keeps the rifraff out.

Okay, that's not it.

The hashes, man, it would not be the same without the hashes.

Romney won't help us pick up the senate or the house, in fact he will hurt that effort.

Total nonsense.  Democrat incumbents are bailing everywhere becasue they see what's coming.  Even Pelosi's daughter says she is bound for "the wilderness."

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 04, 2012 09:57 AM (FUYSU)

she also pulled this off when she claimed she picked the Rep to win NY-9 when her original comment had her picking the Dem

so let's recap, Author 100% correct, curious 0%

One of my right-leaning female co-workers who otherwise isn't all too ideological just suggested to me re: Romney, "If we're going to nominate a Republican like Romney who doesn't seem to have any inclnation of preventing the looming financial disaster, wouldn't we be better just voting for Obama so he takes all the blame?"

I swear, I've never suggested this to her!

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2012 09:42 AM

Yeah that makes sense...not.  I guess she thinks a Liberal Supreme Court would be great then?    ABO without question.  If Teh Won gets re-elected he will make his first term look like a walk in the park.  I don't think it will matter much if we do get a majority in the Senate, which isn't a given anyway. 

Yeah that makes sense...not.  I guess she thinks a Liberal Supreme Court would be great then?    ABO without question.  If Teh Won gets re-elected he will make his first term look like a walk in the park.  I don't think it will matter much if we do get a majority in the Senate, which isn't a given anyway. 

Posted by: Deanna at January 04, 2012 10:01 AM (q+xg4)

Who....ummmm, uhhhhh, loves 'ya, baby?!

I havent seen anything yet as a PA resident

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 09:57 AM (FKQng)

...and remember...nearly six million conservative voters sat out the last election  (May they be forever boned) - in protest - giving us ObamaNation!

 ...how many will sit out this election, in protest against the lack of conservative purity in Republican candidates?

 If you seriously want to win this one, you - personally, dear reader - have to grab every conservative voter you can find and drag him or her kicking and screaming to the polls...

 Otherise, it's RINOVille...or four more years of ObamaNation.

He says they are frighteningly ugly now. Scares him every year...

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 09:51 AM (TCgts)

The ugliest girls on any campus are at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.  No group of women work harder on being unattractive as they do.

 Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:06 AM (TCgts)

Really? Weren't they private at one point?

Yes, of course I'm going to believe the head of a foreign spy agency when he releases the occasional public statement or press release regarding the non-threatening nature of a mortal enemy's acquisition of a nuclear bomb.

Former head.

And we all know that domestic politics never enters into these issues.  Also, intelligence agencies are infallible.  Just ask George Tenet.

Posted by: DarkLord© for Prez! at January 04, 2012 10:05 AM (GBXon)

dude let me enjoy the fact I got Iowa 100% right until I fuck up SC

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 10:11 AM (FKQng)

where's Ben too? he needs to eat my crow

Posted by: fluffy at January 04, 2012 10:11 AM (Lpgtj)

lets sale CA 1st

Santorum is very fiscally conservative.

the guy who pushed medicare Part D?

442 Lincolntf

I had to just go double check the final numbers. Gingrich climbing over Perry and Santorum's surge over Paul foiled me.

Yeah. I was hoping Perry would win out over Gingrich. I just have not been able to forgive Gingrich for his comments about Paul Ryan being a "right wing engineer".

Posted by: fluffy at January 04, 2012 10:11 AM (Lpgtj)

Too cold and flat for them. Give them Cali less San Diego.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 10:12 AM (vuzx2)

agreed

Santorum is very fiscally conservative.

Totally unproved assertion.

Posted by: tubal at January 04, 2012 10:14 AM (BoE3Z)

it's curious who changes nics every damn time she posts

I'm sorry that people with unyielding principles upset your delicate sensibilities.

you know Allen, the only reason I let you slide about your sit out crap is because you live in a state that the GOP will win no matter what come Nov., that and there's something about you I like

Vote your candidate in the primaries, vote the nominee in the general.

Or else you support Barak Obama.

Signed, Dick Nixon.

Perry supporter.

2- His supporters are bigger douche-bags than he is. And we have to deal with them more.

well that I'd agree with; not all of them but a good many are

Posted by: F. Lee Bailout at January 04, 2012 10:17 AM (p1nKZ)

My rapsheet and love for drugs (and hippie chicks) in my youth would negate me...you?

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at January 04, 2012 10:15 AM (+FrDx)

Your inner voice is retarded.

Clearly there's a fat, small chested woman who likes cats who is to blame. How did this woman manage to trick all of Iowa? It's a conspiracy!

Posted by: whatever at January 04, 2012 10:17 AM (O7ksG)

I actually think I know who curious is on the facebook group but I keep my mouth shut because if im wrong im gonna look like a jackass

Hey just to follow up with my otherwise relatively non-poltical rght-leannig co-worker who thinks letting the country collapse under Obama rather than Romney, I explained to her, "As residents of NY, it ultimately doesn't matter who we support, NY will vote to reelect Obama. Of course, the danger is if people lke her in the all miportant battleground states are thinking the same thing, we're probably gong to get that second term."

Man, that Mitt sure knows how to win people over. Well except for the 66 Iowans who bailed on him since 2008 that is.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:20 AM (8y9MW)

meh, thats a good point, if he needs your vote in Texas then Obama is looking good

Posted by: tubal at January 04, 2012 10:20 AM (BoE3Z)

we dont know but she does seem a bit insane. she's changed nics constantly, participated in ageism, threatened blackmail, linked to gay porn, attacked other's families, and she's just wild about Glenn Beck.

Posted by: MoeRon at January 04, 2012 10:21 AM (yWDpP)

dude you're so wrong

he lost by 19 not 18

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 10:22 AM (FKQng)

One Piece, my favorite manga

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 04, 2012 10:19 AM (UU0OF)

Friends, friends, friends...Obama is not a bad man, he's just...misguided.  That why we need to get behind Mr. Romney; a good and decent man who will run a true and just presidential campaign.  Who's with me!?

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (TCgts)

i'm not a so-con but I respect so-cons and dont consider Santorum a dick, he just comes off that way to a lot of folks

One Piece, my favorite manga

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (D5hxK)

im almost caught up, im told the time skip is slow moving

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:24 AM (TCgts)

Nuanced...Is that anything like Smart Power?!?!

Posted by: tsj017 at January 04, 2012 07:20 AM (vOH26)

Once again an Axelrod Astroturf puppet tells us who Obama truly fears among the Republicans.

The ugliest girls on any campus are at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.  No group of women work harder on being unattractive as they do.

Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2012 10:06 AM (8moZm)

Not all of them, at least not a few decades ago. I once dated a UofM girl, and would drive the drive from central Indiana to Ann Arbor on weekends. She was beautiful inside and out, every which way, but her (very Jewish) father didn't approve. I'd do it again.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at January 04, 2012 10:16 AM (8y9MW)

One Piece, my favorite manga

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (D5hxK)

Thought so. So glad fishman island is over. Hody was a weakass villain.

Posted by: tubal at January 04, 2012 10:28 AM (BoE3Z)

no Pelosi is too old for her, she has a beef with older people

her hatred for anyone of age has gotten to the point she said I didnt like her because I was an old guy

...im 22

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:30 AM (TCgts)

Hugh's #2 guy behind Romney is Santorum

it's a lawyer thing?

im almost caught up, im told the time skip is slow moving

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:27 AM (yAor6)

The arc leaves much to be desired but it's just a showcase of everyone's powers and what happened in the world on their 2 year hiatus.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (TpXEI)

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 10:32 AM (zLeKL)

Congress hasn't recessed. It's an unconstitutional move, full stop.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 04, 2012 10:33 AM (RD7QR)

If Ace, a pay, I'll take the case, Mon!

Posted by: dagny at January 04, 2012 10:39 AM (TCgts)

Why? Cause he totally fucked everything up.

One Piece, my favorite manga

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (D5hxK)

im almost caught up, im told the time skip is slow moving

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Voting In A Month at January 04, 2012 10:27 AM (yAor6)

I don't know, it was a pretty immediate skip. The four weeks Oda took off  during it were torturous though for someone who's been reading weekly since 2001.

Thought so. So glad fishman island is over. Hody was a weakass villain.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 10:30 AM (FKQng) \

I thought Fishman Island was pretty damn cool, and I totaslly dig Jimbei, but yeah, Hody was pretty weak sauce. As you mentoned, this was pretty much a showcase for the new moves and whatnot.

But now it's onto Big Momma and the Shinsekai!

But now it's onto Big Momma and the Shinsekai!

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2012 10:42 AM (D5hxK)

She is Meghan McCain's long lost mother. I really am glad Jimbe did not join. I thought his personality didnt mesh with the crew.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (l9zgN)

WTF? Nobody told me Romney was buying votes wth free beer. Might have to reassess here.

So it's official, Bachmann is done. Twitter hath spoken.

Apparently Romney is up 1 point over Gingrich in Florida. Gingrich has already been hit, Mitt hasnt. If gingrich does well in the the debates, he could go back up.

According to RCP the last poll taken in Florida was two weeks ago, so a lot may have changed since then. The way things have been going I am not trusting any poll that's older than one week, and even that may be too old.

She is Meghan McCain's long lost mother. I really am glad Jimbe did not join. I thought his personality didnt mesh with the crew.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (FKQng)

Lol, no kidding on that. Still not sure Jimbei is going to be a Vivi honorary member or if he'll actually join. They haven't left the island yet.

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 10:25 AM (zLeKL)

Jagger, more than a breakfast drink! (you know it's made from prunes, right?)

Vote your candidate in the primaries, vote the nominee in the general.

Or else you support Barak Obama.

Signed, Dick Nixon.

Perry supporter.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 04, 2012 10:18 AM (kaOJx)

At this point I'd vote for a hobo's stained shorts over Barry

 Only in the "big government conservative" sense.

Santorum, like Bush, is a moderate who is perfectly happy with an expansive federal government pulling the strings. Having the "right" stance on God, Guns and Gays doesn't change that.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 04, 2012 10:53 AM (7+pP9)

He fucked things too. Staying positive with opponents hitting you is stupid.

At this point I'd vote for a hobo's stained shorts over Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2012 10:49 AM (1Jaio)

This!

If Bush was such a big spender, the left should love him. After all, the left love big spending, debt hiking, welfare state increasing, big government types.

Nah. the left hate Bush because he cut tax rates for everyone and unemployment stayed relatively low.

At this point I'd vote for a hobo's stained shorts over Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2012 10:49 AM

I love you, can I say that?  If Obama stays in for another 4 years he will personally make his first term look like a picnic, We'll be stuck with a Liberal Supreme Court for the next 20 years.  Sometimes I think all these so-called purist Conservatives, who refuse to vote, like having Obama in office.  It gives them the chance to complain and be the center of attention.  What would they do if a "true" Conservative did get elected?   Their whole reason for existence would be gone. 

Not all of them, at least not a few decades ago. I once dated a UofM girl, and would drive the drive from central Indiana to Ann Arbor on weekends. She was beautiful inside and out, every which way, but her (very Jewish) father didn't approve. I'd do it again.

Posted by: troyriser at January 04, 2012 10:28 AM (vtiE6)

Was she actually beautiful or did she just seem that way in comparison to sea of ugly around her?

Seriously, it was much better there 20 years ago.  Today, the mark of true beauty at UofM is the 14^th nose ring.  I stopped into ZingermanÂ’s over the weekend for a sandwich and almost lost it wading through the unfortunate looking masses.

A senior White House official told AFP that Obama would make Cordray acting head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau despite questions over his power to do so after the former Ohio official failed to win Senate approval.

How dare anyone get in the way of the emperor's wishes.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 04, 2012 10:45 AM (l9zgN)

Sorry, if you want me to take Mitt then you'd better be buying me bourbon, and lots of it.

" Sarah Palin gives the death blow to Michelle Bachman."

Bachman saying that an injection gave a 11 year old Downs Syndrome did it long ago.

With Bachmann out, is there another chance for Perry?

Wow...

Posted by: Joffen at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (zLeKL)

It's santorum or newt me thinks. I wanted Perry's organization to pull him over but it did not happen.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at January 04, 2012 11:00 AM (7+pP9)

Monty has to concentrate on his day job until next week.

Contact info for the Perry campaign.

Please call and ask him to stay in!!

855-887-5627

Anybody read the "Heartwarming story of the day" link in the sidebar?  Truly awesome.  I'm going to save that link and post it every time I hear some asshat Eurotard whining about how awful America is because of all our guns.

I'm going to be making my first gun purchase soon (this year, at least), and now I'm torn between buying a shotgun or a handgun first.  I was going to get the handgun first (I'm leaning toward a Sig P229R), but this story gives me a warm fuzzy feeling about shotguns.

Posted by: whatever at January 04, 2012 11:05 AM

Yes but it's the principle of the thing doncha know.  A true Conservative doesn't care about a for sure Obama appointment but a "might happen may be could be I think will be RINO"  appointment is definitely against their principles.  /sarcasm

Can we get a new thread on this non-recess appointment by Obama?  With a flaming skull?  This is a Big F'ing Deal, as Joe Biden would say.  This is not your garden-variety appointment, this is the head of a brand new agency with new powers that cannot be exercised until a Director is in place.  So any banks or non-banks that get hit with enforcement orders, fines, and lawsuits under these new powers could claim this is unconstitutional because the Director was not confirmed by the Senate or properly recess-appointed.  Anmd ofr course, any future Repub;ican President can use the same legal principle to appoint whoever he wants, whenever he wants.  But of course, Mister President Constitutional Law Professior doesn't give two shits about that; he is just doing this to stick another finger in the eye of the Republicans in Congress and throw another bone to the Progs.

There seem to be no depths to which this President will not sink to score some cheap political points.  He is trashing our entire system of governance, budgeting, and separation of powers, and his cheerleaders in the media do not seem to care at all because he is WINNING!!!11!111!! all these stupid little political skirmishes.

Posted by: Too Sexy for Santorum at January 04, 2012 07:27 AM (tJa5V)

FOAD MFer FOAD....

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 04, 2012 10:12 AM (vuzx2)

I don't know any Perry supporters who would sit out the general and let SCOAMF win. When Romney gets the nomination, I'll vote for him, but he doesn't need my money--Georgette Mosbacher told me so. So I'll take the $5000 I would've given to nominee Perry and instead give it to Quico Canseco and other legislators. At least here in Texas we are still fending off Obama's attacks on us and creating jobs like mad, and I expect that to continue under Governor Perry, so that's nice.

Sorry, if you want me to take Mitt then you'd better be buying me bourbon, and lots of it.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at January 04, 2012 11:02 AM (RD7QR)

Chris B - when did I say "Freedom hinges on 2 votes in the Supreme Court"?

How have I conceded my freedom based on thinking something?