October 03, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Wednesday.
I have not had time yet to look at the news today. Maybe Vic'll have something for ya.
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Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 02:52 AM (Wp4rQ)
well, bless their hearts... (via drudge):
Lake County School Board officials are considering attaching cameras to school cafeteria trash cans to study what students are tossing after officials found that most of the vegetables on the school menu end up in the trash can.
New federal laws require students to take a healthy produce at lunchtime, but last year in Lake County, students tossed $75,000 worth of produce in the garbage.
"It's a big issue, and it's very hard to get our hands around it," said School Board member Todd Howard, who suggested "trash-cams." "They have to take (the vegetable), and then it ends up in the trash can, and that's a waste of taxpayer money. It's also not giving students the nutrition that they need."
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 02:53 AM (NI3M5)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 02:56 AM (Wp4rQ)
on that "Obama and Romney" tied poll (National Observer, again via Drudge):
The likely-voter party splits are 36 percent Democratic, 29 percent Republican, and 30 percent independent.
really..?
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 02:56 AM (NI3M5)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19810431
These are the same vile thugs Obama is backing and supporting the use of child slave labor soldiers for.
http://t.co/pFtEjqJD
This crew in the south Sudan seems to have had a lot of mission creep since the earlier Darfur days when John Garang and his rebels had some actual moral authority. Once Grarang very conveniently died in a "helicopter crash" everything went to shit.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 02:56 AM (MQLiy)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 03, 2012 02:56 AM (XT2y5)
When you can make them eat vegetables by force, you've got the next docile herd trained and ready to vote Democrat as soon as they can be registered.
Step away from the cheeseburger and put your hands on the Arugula!
Posted by: Jake Arney at October 03, 2012 02:57 AM (Cnqmv)
CNN
- Trust, economy keys to first presidential debate
- 5 things to watch in tonights's debate
- Gergen: Could Obama go for knockout?
MSNBC
- NBC/WSJ poll: Obama holds lead over Romney in key battleground Ohio
- Ann Romney 'excited' about debate
- Michelle Obama in Ohio: 'Already election day'
ABC
- In Colorado, Presidential Race Is a Dead Heat
- Conservatives Seize on '07 Obama Video
- Fast Food Diet Participants Paid to Gain Weight
CBS
- The first debate: High stakes for Obama, Romney
- Romney: $17K tax deduction lid a possible route
- GOP: White House Ignored Libya Warnings
- Obama video: October Surprise or Old News?
FOX
- Video Shows Obama Suggesting Neglect of New Orleans was Racial
- State Department Kept Out of Libya Security Dispute
- Colorado to Washington: Turn on The Water
USA Today
- Snow may be heavier this winter for Northeast
- At least 31 killed in suicide bombing in Syria
- What voters want in Wednesdays debate
The video was mentioned on more news sites than I thought it would be
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 03, 2012 02:57 AM (06lNq)
well, grade them on lunch.
you wouldn't want to lose that scholarship because you got a C- in nutrution, would you? Bureaucrats could learn from the Mob, especially in those areas where they haven't already done so.
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 02:58 AM (NI3M5)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2012 02:59 AM (uhAkr)
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 03:00 AM (NI3M5)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 03, 2012 03:01 AM (XT2y5)
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 03:01 AM (NI3M5)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:01 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 03:03 AM (X3lox)
Parents should furnish and prepare their kinds own damn breakfast and lunch.
Its just another Liberals and Progressives use to 'teach' valuable lessons, like how awesome tofu is.
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 03, 2012 03:03 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 06:58 AM (NI3M5)
The White House is planning to host a learning opportunities for Chicago mob "organizers" to present new and improved methods of using force to achieve desired outcomes!
Posted by: Jake Arney at October 03, 2012 03:04 AM (Cnqmv)
Parents should furnish and prepare their kids own damn breakfast and lunch.
Its just another way for Liberals and Progressives to 'teach' valuable lessons, like how great tofu is.
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 03, 2012 03:05 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 03, 2012 07:03 AM (06lNq)
I'm not precisely certain how a growing kid can get enough calories out of a Moochelle-approved lunch anyway. A teenaged boy eating that will be hungry the moment he leaves the cafeteria.
Posted by: joncelli at October 03, 2012 03:05 AM (CWlPF)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 03, 2012 03:06 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 03:07 AM (NI3M5)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 03, 2012 03:07 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:08 AM (Wp4rQ)
They're learning on their own how smuggling and black markets work.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 03:08 AM (MQLiy)
Posted by: barbarausa at October 03, 2012 03:10 AM (WWeoI)
In the dark ages, children carried a PBand J, tuna, balogna, or cheese sandwich with apple or banana. You also returned the brown bag to mom for repacking.
If you breed 'um, you feed 'um says the cold hearted bastard.
Posted by: Dr Fish, ran the TSA gauntlet with balls intact at October 03, 2012 03:10 AM (lDWQr)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:11 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Gran at October 03, 2012 03:12 AM (mw0FO)
PBJ is illegal lots of places now. Too many kids fatally allergic.
Fortunately for my teenage son, they are not only legal in our district, but only cost .85. He can either spend $3.00+ on the balanced meal with whole grain and locally sourced fruits and vegs, or buy a la carte and get two sandwiches, milk and a piece of fruit.
He goes a la carte.
Posted by: barbarausa at October 03, 2012 03:14 AM (WWeoI)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:15 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Daybrother at October 03, 2012 03:15 AM (+paCV)
Kids don't need to taste their food anyway. Save time, money and build better proletariats.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2012 03:15 AM (BeSEI)
another via Drudge:
The retreat of western forces from Afghanistan could come sooner than expected, the head of Nato has said as he conceded that the recent Taliban strategy of "green on blue" killings had been successful in sapping morale.
In an interview with the Guardian Nato's secretary-general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, responded to pressure for a faster withdrawal from Afghanistan by stating that the options were being studied and should be clear within three months.
well done, Mr Presnident.
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 03:16 AM (NI3M5)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:18 AM (Wp4rQ)
or we could learn from Orwell and have Mrs Obama on a two way screen to lecture the children on how hard their fellow citizens who are being re-educated by doing farmwork instead of engaging in evil speculation (both financial and intellectual kinds) must work, and how they, the future of our Party, wouldn't want to find out in person how much hard work goes into growing fresh fruits and vegetables...
double plus good.
Posted by: mallfly at October 03, 2012 03:21 AM (NI3M5)
A couple of lines down, the 'I' in 'TEAM', is quite funny. Found in the 'Hole' of 'A'. The JEF says 'I' a lot. Is it by coincidence?
Posted by: sTevo at October 03, 2012 03:22 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at October 03, 2012 03:25 AM (JPfSc)
When I was in elementary school, way back in the dark ages, they would have pizza once a month for lunch. It was horrible pizza but it was our favorite anyway. Accompanying the pizza was always an ice cream scoop of what I can only now assume was spinach.
At the end of lunch, the entire trash can would be full of virgin green spheres. I don't need a camera to figure out why.
There, I just saved the taxpayers lots of k$s by obviating the need for an expensive study. You're welcome.
Posted by: pep at October 03, 2012 03:26 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:27 AM (Wp4rQ)
Charles Duke (Apollo 16)
David Obey (Dem hack but I repeat myself)
Chubby Checker (still twistin')
Roy Horn (got bit on his b-day?)
Lindsey Buckingham (went insane in the 80's)
Pamela Hensley (Princess Ardala)
Dave Winfield (started as a Padre)
Al Sharpton (wants to marry his megaphone)
Stevie Ray Vaughan ( 
)
Hart Bochner ("Hey, Hans, put the gun away. This is radio, not television.")
Greg Proops (improv guy)
Jack Wagner (all he needs is a little more time)
Tommy Lee (all he needs are a few more tattoos)
Clive Owen (considered for 007 )
Gwen Stefani (no doubt she wears too much makeup)
Neve Campbell (screamer!)
Seann William Scott (Stifler!)
Josh Klinghoffer (gave it away then)
Ashlee Simpson (who?)
Posted by: Gran at October 03, 2012 03:28 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Ffff at October 03, 2012 03:29 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: Gran at October 03, 2012 03:29 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 03, 2012 03:29 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 03:31 AM (MQLiy)
Posted by: Little Miss Inopulent at October 03, 2012 03:32 AM (qH52N)
Posted by: Daybrother at October 03, 2012 03:36 AM (+paCV)
Anyone feel like answering this query from a friend of mine?
Need research help when you have spare time. Up against a liberal in a forum. He's provided a graph showing falling wages in the 1980s. Would like a good explanation and counter argument.Let me know if you got anything. I suspect the answer might have to do with demographics. I need a good answer for this jack ass liberal. Or maybe I am just wrong. But I need to explain how despite a growing GDP in the 1980s real wages fell. Maybe you can pose the question in one of your forums where conservatives hang. I need links that can support too.
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 03, 2012 03:36 AM (HethX)
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at October 03, 2012 03:38 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:38 AM (Wp4rQ)
Colbert has a perfect good "t" at the end of his name, and he doesn't use it. How can you trust someone so fundamentally dishonest he can't even spell his name like it sounds? No doubt he would have made a good informant for the NKVD.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2012 03:40 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 03:40 AM (+jNI+)
Posted by: Daybrother at October 03, 2012 03:40 AM (+paCV)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 03, 2012 03:41 AM (HethX)
Posted by: Daybrother at October 03, 2012 03:42 AM (+paCV)
Posted by: Martin at October 03, 2012 03:44 AM (MSrqi)
Parents should furnish and prepare their kinds own damn breakfast and lunch.
IIRC, the original school lunch program was designed when the central planners learned that too many recruits for one of the wars were kinda stumpy from undernourishment as children. (World War I?) Back when half the population was rural and the other half was spending on average around 30% of family income on food. Refrigeration was primitive, ready-to-eat was pretty much canned beans and soups, the feds weren't paying corn producers...there were no food stamps.
Go look at Good Housekeeping from the 20s and 30s, the ads for foods and some of their recipe articles tout their "calories per penny" to keep your children safe from "underweight."
Now families spend less than 10% on their income on food (can't remember if that includes dining out, which I personally file under "entertainment" but I mostly live alone), if you're too poor to run a fridge there's a host of ready-to-eat things that don't require it, subsidies make processed foods wicked-cheap. The program isn't needed anymore.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 03:45 AM (hO8IJ)
One of the typical arguments used on the left is "well, everybody has jobs, but they're not good jobs." I suspect this graph comes from that line of thought.
I don't do economics, but this seems pretty basic to me. Rising employment rates mean more entry level jobs, which means lower average wage rates.
It's the same lie that gets told about American education. We score poorly on international measurements. Why? Because we have higher rates of attendance, which means the nitwits stay in school longer, pulling down test score averages.
In other words, it's a typical misrepresentation of stats.
Ask him for a graph of median incomes, not just mean/average.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2012 03:47 AM (BeSEI)
Which is better?
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 06:52 AM (Wp4rQ)
I'm not sure there's anyone he doesn't hate aside from the dipstick he sees in the mirror every few minutes while preening. It's just easier for him to pretend to like people who suck up to him.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 03, 2012 03:47 AM (qEkGZ)
SQUARE PIZZA!!!! I went to a private school and we had it there too. Every Friday. Horrible, dripping in grease, square (rectangular) pizza. I graduated from highschool almost 14 years ago, I've got friends that are closing in on 20 years ago, and we all still remember and talk about the square pizza.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 03:48 AM (da5Wo)
Not everything is shit today.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 03:48 AM (MQLiy)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 03:48 AM (HNwOT)
Posted by: Martin at October 03, 2012 03:49 AM (MSrqi)
And infant mortality rates...
Most countries won't even count premies that die...they're chalked up as non-viable like a miscarriage.
If it exists alive then dies 5 seconds later, we count it as an infant mortality.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 03, 2012 03:51 AM (MQLiy)
while I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum on previous threads, I just want to say that I didn't think the unedited tape added anything to what we know about Obama. were any of you shocked?<<<<<
No. And I don't understand why Drudge pimped it with the siren. It just added to a body of work we're already familiar with.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 03, 2012 03:52 AM (JDIKC)
Back in my day, there was a spot on the parking lot where students could smoke pot. They weren't supposed to, but they could. And did.
But yeah, nobody stopped anybody from smoking tobacco anywhere outside the buildings.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2012 03:52 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Scanner Dan at October 03, 2012 03:52 AM (wk2K/)
They did away with the smoking section at high schools and installed a f-cking section.
Practically.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at October 03, 2012 03:52 AM (JPfSc)
If you want the high wage, you have to have the high skills.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 03, 2012 03:52 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 03:53 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 03:53 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 03, 2012 03:55 AM (he2LC)
As always, link in my nic.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 03:55 AM (qigku)
Posted by: not the mama at October 03, 2012 03:57 AM (kzCIn)
(warning: image) http://is.gd/xXpDha
(No, I will not be watching the drag queen debate analysis; I already know what they'll all say. I won't be watching the debate, either; gotta listen to Bob Uecker call the last game of the year. I already know who I'm going to vote for.)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 03:57 AM (hO8IJ)
Hey, everyone - slept through my alarm (Mrs P had to wake me), so am behind the 8 ball today. Only time for a quick zinger:
Groucho Marx was once asked how the brothers decided which gags to use in a movie. Groucho replied that they had two ways of doing it; firstly, as they usually tried out their movies as stage shows before filming, whatever the audience laughed at the most stayed.
After that, he said, they'd run the remaining jokes by Zeppo, the team's straight man, to get his reaction.
If Zeppo laughed at a joke. . .they cut it.
Sorry to be brief. I'll make it up to you tomorrow. Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 03, 2012 03:57 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: joncelli at October 03, 2012 07:05 AM (CWlPF)
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That's the whole idea: a starved population is too weak to rebel. (See: "Famine, Potato, Irish").
On thee bright side I hope Romney will be able to play Barney Greenwald to Obama's Francis Queeg* in tonite's debate.
* Or Lt. Caffey to Obama's Nathan Jessup if you must, but I like Jose Ferrer a lot more than Tom Cruise
Posted by: Nighthawk at October 03, 2012 03:57 AM (RSqz2)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 03:57 AM (tWrwm)
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Another little whipper snapper.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2012 03:58 AM (lTVJy)
Maybe a few people outside the active political sphere are picking up on the biased polling being pushed. ESPN of all networks ran a clip from the Colin Cowherd (sp) show where he played a parody of a Presidential polling question. Went something like "Do you like puppies and kittehs like President Obama does or do you think one person should have all of the money in the world, including yours, like Mitt Romney does".
Thought it was very spot on.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 03, 2012 03:58 AM (VrVBw)
Do you remember how the cheese always looked like it had a layer of saran wrap melted on top of it?
::: shudder ::::
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 03:59 AM (sbV1u)
Back in MY day, the kids just fucked in the hallways. The stupid bimbo with the locker next to mine always had her hands down her slimey pizza-faced boyfriend's pants.
It's a wonder I'm not more fucked up than I am.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 03:59 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 03:59 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2012 04:00 AM (lTVJy)
EoJ (and so many others who were deriding the release of this vid last night): The tape was not meant to affect you in any way.
Instead, it was aimed at the average low-info voter who, after 2008 and this year's campaign so far, probably is not aware that Choom Boy is a racist, pandering shitweasel.
Wake the fuck up! Presumably, Teh Mutt has your vote, but pulling a few former worshipers away from the Anointed One's legions is more valuable to the campaign than sating your desire for only the finest in red meat.
We need a flood of this shit getting out, whether from 2007, 2001 or last week, even if it doesn't meet your lofty standards.
I am so friggin' tired of the Poppin' Fresh Brigade running the campaign. If they prevail, we lose. Get used to that, and if the thought of another four years of the Traitor-in-Chief really bothers you, accept that there are times when shit must be flung in hopes some sticks.
Posted by: MrScribbler at October 03, 2012 04:01 AM (ZgX/g)
That is horrid. Went to more than one high school and never saw anything quite that bad.
In school, anyway.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at October 03, 2012 04:02 AM (JPfSc)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 04:03 AM (C/Pop)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 07:48 AM (HNwOT)
Kelley...no, I wasn't shocked...except maybe that what he said was as mild as it was (but then he was already running for president so likely a lot more careful than he would have been otherwise), but a lot of people who are just now (hopefully) paying attention to the real Obama instead of the one crafted for them by the MSM in 2008 might be shocked to hear Mr. Post-Racial HopeNChange talking like that. Hopefully. If any of them are paying attention even at this late date.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 03, 2012 04:03 AM (qEkGZ)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 03, 2012 04:04 AM (pUAXu)
My daughter gets to "order" her breakfast from dad. I ask her what she wants for breakfast...most of the time it's "i don't know" so i throw out some ideas. This morning she had nachos. The perfect breakfast: grain, vegetables, protein and fats from the cheese and sour cream along with grape juice. When you teach kids healthy they eat it. She does't like candy. We have never offered her soda when growing up so she has not aquired a taste for it. She prefers fruit juice or water (water, the stuff you drink when one is thirsty). Occasionally we go out and since i married a pinoy it's the Chinese buffet. Daughter loads up on chicken and broccoli. She likes vegetables because that is what we prepare fresh at home.
It's a mystery to me that the libs have a wish come true in EBT cards, then allow people to buy garbage with them, then complain that the progeny of the wellfare class have poor eating habits. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
When i was growing up i got minute-rice with milk, butter and sugar for breakfast. I still get a craving for sweet rice to this very day. Bon apetit!
Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 03, 2012 04:04 AM (IOuIz)
58 Google:
WAGE INEQUALITY IN THE UNITED STATES DURING THE 1980s: RISING DISPERSION OR FALLING MINIMUM WAGE?
Just looked at it briefly, but as near as I can tell it says most of the gap can be explained by the fact that mimium wage didn't increase in the 1980s while inflation was rampant?
Posted by: lymond at October 03, 2012 04:05 AM (RxLT6)
Morning pink cracka person!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 04:05 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 04:05 AM (HNwOT)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 04:05 AM (C/Pop)
For breakfast I usually had leftovers from the night before stuffed cabbage, pierogis, rice and meat, etc.
Lunch consisted of cold Knishes with mustard, I LOVE KNISHES!
I rarely ate school food.
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 03, 2012 04:07 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 04:09 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:09 AM (8y9MW)
I have a solution.
Give kids good food. They'll eat it instead of throwing it away.
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 04:10 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 03, 2012 04:11 AM (he2LC)
That's awesome. I feel slightly better about the future. :-)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 04:11 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Jack Hammer at October 03, 2012 04:11 AM (JHbj+)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 04:11 AM (Wp4rQ)
And that's exactly why the news networks didn't cover things like this, and gave him a pass on Jeremiah Wright in 2007-8. Now they can say, "Oh, that's ancient history. No one cared about that 4 years ago, why would they care now?"
And the sheeple of this country will just accept it as, "Oh, well, if it's not a big deal to anyone else, I guess it's not a big deal to me" and they'll just move on.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:13 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 04:13 AM (tvOF2)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 04:13 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 03, 2012 04:13 AM (HethX)
Posted by: osu at October 03, 2012 04:13 AM (fDmoN)
He says: "You won't like these."
I never had any trouble getting my kids to eat. Don't serve garbage.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 03, 2012 04:13 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 04:14 AM (Wp4rQ)
http://t.co/mRGvqzTK
The AP makes sure to point out in the third paragraph that "Polling shows that 62 percent of Obama supporters work full-time" before bothering to report on Ryan's actual speech. *spit*
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 04:14 AM (hO8IJ)
Obama will be Obama. The MSM will be the MSM. They will be furiously spinning Obama's performance as an amazing combination of Lincoln, Douglas, Cicero, and Daniel Webster. All while hoping we don't notice their sad clown eyes behind the frantic spinning.
The story above about declines in Dem voter registration is part of the logistics exercise. Romney spent much time and money from 2008 until the present helping get Rs elected at the state level, especially in state Secretary of State offices. Jon Husted in Ohio is a great example.
Elections have consequences and winners play a long game. More R SecofSt means more dead Dems and felons cleared from the rolls and fewer opportunities for Dem fraud. Romney's efforts behind the scenes in 2010 may gain him the WH this year.
It would not surprise me in the least to find out years from now that Romney and Palin had a tacit deal to let her take the rhetorical lead [and the MSM heat] from 2009-2011 so he could win the WH in 2012.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 03, 2012 04:14 AM (dcoFe)
Posted by: JBS at October 03, 2012 04:15 AM (lZE/o)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 03, 2012 04:15 AM (ogdab)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 03, 2012 04:15 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 04:15 AM (HNwOT)
This. Requiring, say, the starting Varsity Offensive Line to hold to the same calorie count as, say, the chess club is really, really stupid.
And, as school districts are finding out (most of them knew it already, but they're addicted to that sweet, sweet government money) you can't force kids to eat healthy. Mom and Dad might be able to say, "You'll eat your peas, or you'll go to bed hungry." A teacher can't do that for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:16 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 04:17 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: eman at October 03, 2012 04:17 AM (Wp4rQ)
Posted by: Mandy P., long time lurker at October 03, 2012 04:18 AM (qFpRI)
You know who it does surprise?
The numbskulls who are answering polls saying that their lives are a pile of shit, but Obama is the right guy to fix everything up.
It targets the undecideds, women, and soft Democrats. Exactly the people who can be peeled away. We are all broken glass voters who can't be stopped from voting against this SCOAMF.
I've been living in the internals of these polls for weeks, and a significant percentage of the respondents are either stupid or insane.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 04:18 AM (qigku)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 03, 2012 08:13 AM (he2LC)
Our society has lost this little tidbit of obviousness. Apparently we need the government to help us with our children's eating habits.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:18 AM (2b4yb)
It's not about common sense, it's about the left knowing better than you because they're "the smart ones."
/sarc
The cure is more Burke, less Rousseau, more Hayek, less Marx.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 04:18 AM (sbV1u)
Except that deep down inside of every politiican is a sociopath who will gladly gut his mother for a few extra votes.
I doubt anyone involved would stick to the deal.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:21 AM (2b4yb)
No. See, that I don't believe.
I think Ronald Reagan had it right when he said, "A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A Depression is when you lose yours." I think people notice the gas and food prices.
What they may not realize (and this is something the Media has been pushing more subtly) is exactly how much of that can be laid solidly at the feet of Washington- specifically the Democrats.
Every so often I'll say, "Silly politicians, corn is for food!" Partially because it's funny, and partially so people will (hopefully) realize that the ethanol subsidies are perhaps the single most harmful thing in our economy right now. We already used corn in everything from food to paper-products to clothing, and then we're going to add the least efficient possible use to the list? That's crazy.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:21 AM (8y9MW)
ABC Radio news covered the 2007 speech, but claimed they covered it when it happened. Read a press release is what they did.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 03, 2012 04:22 AM (l3vZN)
I suppose that's what happens when you have a 9% response rate. Normal people blow off the pollsters.
Posted by: pep at October 03, 2012 04:22 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 04:22 AM (HNwOT)
For God's sake....they went to Harvard. Of course they are smarter!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:23 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: no good deed at October 03, 2012 04:23 AM (mjR67)
The problem is the "one size fits all" mentality of bureaucracy. There is never a consideration of second and third order effects.
They make these kids take a vegetable.
So the kid thinks, "OK, I'll take one, but I'm not eating it."
Then the drones wonder why they have a problem with food waste. Their solution is to put cameras on the trash cans.
OK genius, what you going to do when you bust Junior throwing out a vegetable you made him take? Force feed him? Arrest him? What's the charge?
I work in government, and I hate government.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 04:23 AM (sbV1u)
It'll be awhile before robots are able to care for nursing home residents or even dish out the 1/2 c sliced jicama w/1TBSP low-fat ranch dip to unwilling children. But no one wants to do those jobs after 2-6 years of kollij...and in the 21st century everyone HAS to go to college, at least girls do. Whether they have the ability and disposition for scholarly work or not.
I think we're the first society where the upper classes have their labor confiscated for the lower classes to live in leisure. It's usually the other way around.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 04:23 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Jay at October 03, 2012 04:23 AM (3LaGb)
The "messaging" from here on in will be designed to peel off undecideds and demoralize Dems. It isn't for motivating us.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 03, 2012 04:23 AM (dcoFe)
I lived 4 blocks from Harvard Square, trust me, these people do not have the common sense God gave a rock.
They do, however, seem to have personal hygiene issues and an abundance of grey hair in ponytails.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 04:24 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 04:24 AM (HNwOT)
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Mr. Black does not follow politics at all. If he hears some big story going around, he just asks me what it's all about. He walked by Hannity's show last night where he was playing that clip and stopped dead in his tracks. He looked at me wide eyed and said, "why the hell is he talking like that?" He thought he sounded ridiculous. When he listened further, he said, "what a racist!" So....people on the periphery will see this for what it is. How can you not? I don't give Hannity (conservatism on training wheels) much credit, but his side by side was awesome.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2012 04:25 AM (lTVJy)
We haven't experienced the same problem, and we did the same thing. Of course, our costs are hidden in labor- we'll buy heads of lettuce, for example, and chop them up ourselves. We tend to buy in-season fruits and vegetables, not because it's hoity-toity, but because it's cheaper (if it's in season, that means both the local farmers and the big agra-concerns have to compete for my dollars), and so forth.
You can eat well cheaply, but you do have to make some sacrifices.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:27 AM (8y9MW)
Before this is over, they'll cut football.
Admittedly, I think sports should be something local clubs do completely apart from the schools because why should education money be wasted on a few kids' hobby? (my high school got new football helmets every year and new textbooks every twenty years...)
But watch these concussion studies; they'll parlay that into no more football for kids under 18.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 04:27 AM (hO8IJ)
^^^^THIS.
Somebody's got to keep them supplied with Brawndo.
It's got electrolytes.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 04:28 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 04:28 AM (5HAgy)
Posted by: El Lobo at October 03, 2012 04:28 AM (+I8Mq)
I expect that there will be 130 million voters this time, and we will be seeing long lines in both Democrat and Republican strongholds. Both parties will turn out their base in huge numbers.
That doesn't happen when people are disengaged.
The low information voter we talk about a lot is a much smaller percentage than expected this year. But there are still enough of them to make a difference.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 04:28 AM (qigku)
The relationship between real intelligence and acceptance to one of the elite Ivy league schools is nowhere near 1.
It amazes me how detached from the real world some of these people can be.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:28 AM (2b4yb)
Snack: Freshly Baked Muffins
Salmon & Wild Rice Salad
All Natural Beef Hot Dogs
Turkey Dogs
Tofu Pups
Roasted Zucchini
Organic Baked French Fries
Red Grapes
just google 'sidwell friends lunch menu'
Posted by: Jones in CO at October 03, 2012 04:28 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 04:28 AM (HNwOT)
Oh, wow. So we only under-grew by... what, 90,000 jobs? last month.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:29 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Mandy P., long time lurker at October 03, 2012 04:30 AM (qFpRI)
250K, I think. With 350K needed to really start recovering.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:30 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 03, 2012 04:30 AM (HNwOT)
AllenG,
That 162K will be revised down, and I'd love to know how many are part-time as Macy's is gearing up for Christmas...
Posted by: Jay at October 03, 2012 04:31 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Martin at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (MSrqi)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (ck76k)
Just don't park on school property.
Posted by: Fritz at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (/ZZCn)
After a few years doing it, I always thought the cure for that was a few years in the military.
Once you've watched kids playing in raw sewage in Port au Prince, or Sadr City, or been privy to the view of the bodies of genocide victims flowing over Victoria Falls after a 2 day float down the river....your perspective changes radically.
Some are able to get this intuitively. Some have to be broken out of the college cocoon.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (sbV1u)
I made twenty eight for a family reunion once. The store didn't have that much cube steak so the guy sold me rib-eye sliced thin for the same price. THOSE were some goood chicken fried steaks.
Posted by: El Lobo at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: Richard Hayes, AFSCME Tool and Deluded Penthouse Letters Fan at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (uXvLX)
Of course it will. With the Jobless Claims numbers over the last month, I'd be surprised if the real number was 140K. But that won't matter, it's cover for the SCOAMT.
With these numbers, and the suppression of the workforce, Obama will be able to claim his 7.9% UE on Friday.
BTW- does anyone know if that ADP number is gross, or net, new jobs?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Miss Marple at October 03, 2012 04:32 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 04:33 AM (5HAgy)
Posted by: Mandy P., long time lurker at October 03, 2012 04:33 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at October 03, 2012 04:34 AM (uXvLX)
Ah. Yep, that'll do it.
Find a local butcher. If you've got a good freezer, and can afford the initial investment, you can get a good 3 months of meat from a local butcher for cheap.
Many of them even have purchasing plans so that if you don't have a good freezer, you can buy set amounts of food every month. The discount isn't quite as good as buying all at once, but it's cheaper than buying a la carte every two weeks.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:35 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 04:36 AM (5HAgy)
>>Their solution is to put cameras on the trash cans.
Next month, they'll find that the cameras only show kids throwing away napkins that might have veggies inside them.
Then they'll want to buy x-ray machines...
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 03, 2012 04:36 AM (SUKHu)
A U.S. Army veteran is seeking $10 million from the federal government, saying a nurse repeatedly put ice packs on his penis after surgery, causing frostbite and gangrene and ultimately leading to the organ's partial amputation.
http://is.gd/bApuJi
My ladyparts sympathize.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, uncomfortably sober at October 03, 2012 04:36 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone homer at October 03, 2012 04:36 AM (I2LwF)
The key to winning this is getting a majority of the Independents and getting Republicans to vote. In 2008 they dropped 5% from their 2004 percentage.
This is a turnout election, both sides will turn out their base. It will come down to who can turn out more.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 04:36 AM (qigku)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 03, 2012 04:37 AM (ogdab)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 03, 2012 04:38 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2012 04:39 AM (+tqYo)
They're all turnout elections. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. And when Republicans turn out just "near even" numbers with Democrats, Republicans win.
Which is why I plan on seeing what I can do to make phone calls for a swing-state later this month. Texas is pretty well locked up, after all.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:40 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: gp at October 03, 2012 04:40 AM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Sheryl Crow at October 03, 2012 04:40 AM (7fLDW)
Posted by: Mandy P., long time lurker at October 03, 2012 04:40 AM (qFpRI)
Posted by: Vegan in a Prius at October 03, 2012 04:41 AM (PD2ad)
Buy a vacuum sealer if you are going to buy and freeze meat in bulk. The difference is startling.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:41 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 04:41 AM (ck76k)
This Obama speech video is no help whatsoever.
The MSM was in a panic trying to spin the debates as the (coming) reason that Obama is going down in the polls and Mitt is coming up. For weeks they've been trying to create the meme that the election was over and The One was winning by a landslide.
Now, the lying press can point to the release of this video and blame Obama's fall on racism. Actual voter preference hasn't changed in months. Mitt is going to win by a substantial margin. The only thing that has changed is that now the MSM has an excuse for how their juiced polls changed so much.
Posted by: jwest at October 03, 2012 04:43 AM (ZDsRL)
LegalInsurrection headline:
>>Elizabeth Warren helped protect Dow Chemical against breast implant claims
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 03, 2012 04:43 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Nighthawk at October 03, 2012 04:43 AM (RSqz2)
That's the solution.
I just plain don't think everyone should go to college. There are skilled trades paying 6 figures that go begging because no one want's a "dirty" job. Of course, being a CNC machinist requires some smarts and isn't really all that "dirty"....but good luck selling that to Mom and Dad after 50 years of programming about the value of college..
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 04:43 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 04:44 AM (qigku)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 08:36 AM (5HAgy)
I'll go two better: No financial aid at all for higher education. And no subsidy of colleges for any reason.
If they can't compete in the education marketplace then they have no reason to exist.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:45 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 03, 2012 04:45 AM (ogdab)
True. Though some butchers will vacuum pack for you. I'm sure there's an extra fee for that, though.
Considering the low cost of vacuum sealers, that's definitely the way to go.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 04:45 AM (8y9MW)
I was hoping for a tie in Rasmussen.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2012 04:46 AM (qigku)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2012 04:46 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 03, 2012 04:47 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Ball of Meat at October 03, 2012 04:49 AM (mxnUd)
Have they tried a little egg wash, flour dredge, and hot oil on the school lunch veggies? Heck, even the restaurants around here serve fried zuchini on the bar's Happy Hour Menu.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 03, 2012 04:49 AM (BAS5M)
Whoa, did you see this Scott Brown ad yesterday? Link to LegalIn. in name.
She talks about hiding the assets of the company to keep them from employees and retirees.
Posted by: Mama AJ at October 03, 2012 04:50 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 04:50 AM (ck76k)
Somehow it's more racist to notice the racism in the Hampton video. I just haven't been instructed in how that works yet. But that's what the HuffPo app on my phone is for.
Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 04:51 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 03, 2012 04:51 AM (136wp)
Have they tried a little egg wash, flour dredge, and hot oil on the school lunch veggies? Heck, even the restaurants around here serve fried zuchini on the bar's Happy Hour Menu.
Fried foods? Surely you jest. I think they'd rather the kids just throw them away. Better that the kids go hungry than for them to eat anything fried, you know.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 03, 2012 04:52 AM (JxMoP)
Plus, a lot of schools are no longer set up for deep fat frying.
Posted by: Miss Marple at October 03, 2012 04:52 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Fritz at October 03, 2012 04:52 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: The Whirling Dervishes at October 03, 2012 04:52 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 04:52 AM (/1U3u)
Imagining Romney/Obama in debate makes me nauseous. And like a dog to its vomit, we're all going to tune in for some of it.
"The Mitt Stabilizer"
CNN: [After bringing his dad to mind on stage] But there is more to the routine, she says. "And then he looks in the audience and he finds me. He has to find where I am. And– he just– he needs just that connection. And almost after every answer that he gives, he'll find me in the audience, to see, 'Was that good? Was that okay?'"
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Ann's gone too far spilling Mitt's magic beans, pearls before the public swine. This is asking for bad luck. And to make Mitt out to be her puppy is pathetic, not to mention seeming weak, unpresidential. As if Mitt must have her approval before he does squat. It isn't as if it shouldn't be that way necessarily; but to announce that it is sheds all which should remain personal into the public combat field. That's one way to strip for a thrill. She had no business making "it" all about her, even if "it" is that way between the two of them. This is one vane woman, already broadcast live for viewers to witness after her "love" speech was followed by Christi's "respect" speech, and she shot daggers at him as he spoke, if looks could kill. She's exposed Mitt's weakness and vulnerability, his dependency on her to a fault, making him out to be a sissy mommy's boy, a big titty baby. Big help, that's how it's going to spin. You can bet that every MSM camera will be documenting Mitt's glances to Ann from now on. This possessiveness of hers is unhealthy in the public limelight. But then, she has precedence with Nancy Reagan. However, referencing a least popular element from the Reagan "legacy" isn't the smartest route for comparison when seeking more votes from the Independent (more of those than either R or D on voter registries). And if this is the Republican "proof" that there is no GOP "war against women" -- it won't buy any more voters than are in the poorly worded "legitimate rape" tank.
On public perception of a President through his First Lady, Ann could learn from Laura Bush. Laura and W might have the same sort of devoted relationship as Ann and Mitt. But Laura didn't go on national/global television saying that George needed her approval each time he spoke. Laura's' influence didn't go public with anything until the "dead or alive" remark; and even then it was W who took it back, admitting she'd had a word with him in private.
That married couples discuss matters is expected. That a wife presumes the seal of authority over her husband's words, however, is unbalanced, especially if he is the POTUS. As if America needs another Moochelle, or Hillary. Voters who go for that already have it. The political agenda of Hillary and Moochelle is already public record. Even Hillary's hidden treatise is exposed given the subject: ALINSKY. If it's the "two for one" formerly Clinton sales pitch gone GOP '12, then Ann has a hell of a lot explaining to do regarding HER political background views on specific constitutional law v. federal policy. And if she's claiming that's not her intent so as to avoid explaining herself, she shouldn't be out there announcing that Mitt needs her approval. "And almost after every answer that he gives, he'll find me in the audience, to see, 'Was that good? Was that okay?'" Why not simply stop at "he'll find me in the audience," to go no further than "to see" [my eyes, or my smile, or simply to see me].
On public perception of a President through his First Lady, Ann could learn from Laura Bush how to be absolutely supportive without stealing the show. And if it's Nancy Reagan that Ann would emulate, then there it is. We know Nancy, and Ann is no Nancy. Nancy never spilled Ronald's magic beans for her own aggrandizement. But then, Romney is no Reagan. As if Reagan would have anything to do with the Patriot Act to "create jobs" via establishing the top heaviest of all unconstitutional bureaucracies, the federal DHS behemoth. As if Gov./Pres. Reagan would have ever instituted the unconstitutional "Mandate" that Mitt will never rescind.
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2012 04:54 AM (BAnPT)
I disagree.
Anything that requires labor transfer is by definition in a market. The problem is that the government's subsidies of education have distorted the market to such a degree that there is no relationship between cost and value.
Your comments about why we subsidize are spot-on.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:56 AM (2b4yb)
I cannot watch the debate tonight. Just having to LOOK at that scrawny asswipe of a "President" is enough to give me ulcers at this point, let alone listen to him getting a ritual tongue bath from Jim Lehrer. I'll depend on my fellow 'rons and 'ettes to fill me in on the good and bad.
Also, morning, all!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 04:57 AM (4df7R)
Careful, or Maetenloch will swing the mighty 2/10 hammer.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 04:57 AM (2b4yb)
Fried foods? Surely you jest. I think they'd rather the kids just throw them away. Better that the kids go hungry than for them to eat anything fried, you know
Yes, posted very much tongue firmly planted in cheek.
And stop calling me Shirley.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 03, 2012 04:58 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 04:59 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 03, 2012 04:59 AM (BAS5M)
I'm not watching the debate, because the CW is that Romney already lost it.
Unless, there's a good Debate Drinking Game.
Posted by: Roy at October 03, 2012 04:59 AM (VndSC)
# 169:
250K, I think. With 350K needed to really start recovering.
And lets not forget that the brilliant economist, and current Vice President Joe 'Sippy Cup' Biden referred to 350k jobs per month under Bush as a jobless recovery. If the drooling imbecile wasn't already senile, it'd be fun to question him about that.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 03, 2012 05:00 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 03, 2012 05:02 AM (1V6Pv)
Naaah, he's not consistently doing that like jimi ray is...oh he of the gay PhD persuasion.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 03, 2012 05:02 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 03, 2012 05:03 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at October 03, 2012 05:06 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 05:06 AM (erYRT)
Posted by: VBJonny at October 03, 2012 05:06 AM (mX1fc)
The Democrats want everyone to go to college because so many degree programs are based in modern PC progressive crapthink. Nearly every school cranks out graduates in racial grievance fields. Not a single professor in those fields will be voting Romney this year. That's the tip of a huge lefty hive mind in academia.
Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 05:07 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 03, 2012 05:08 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 03, 2012 06:57 AM (06lNq)
I can't believe that commie Yahoo had it on their front page
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 05:08 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 05:08 AM (tWctt)
A joke.
Maet knocked the snot out of an irritating commenter by enforcing his own 2/10 rule.
Comments may be no more than two paragraphs and 10 sentences.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 05:08 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone homer at October 03, 2012 08:36 AM (I2LwF)
Well? Are you gonna share or what?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 05:09 AM (da5Wo)
Anything that requires labor transfer is by definition in a market. The problem is that the government's subsidies of education have distorted the market to such a degree that there is no relationship between cost and value.
This. There's been such a push for so long for EVERYONE to get a "higher education" that the actual worth of that education has been diluted to a depressing level. The fact of the matter is not everyone needs or wants a college degree. It shouldn't be mandatory to have a two year associates degree to answer phones and work a reception desk, or push a mop, or do data entry. I'm not saying those jobs don't need intellectual ability -- even mopping up Burger King requires a little awareness of where to start and where to end so you don't mop yourself into a corner -- but they don't need a degree. They ARE good starting points for new employees, getting them into the employment world and starting them on the ladder to better, more gainful employment.
If a receptionist chooses to get an associates degree in business administration so he or she can go for an administrative position in his or her company, go for it! That proves you've got some skin in the game and some ambition (not to mention a decent sense of loyalty to the company in question). But when you go into a position like that with a BA or BS, what are the chances you're going to stay? What are the chances you aren't looking on Monster.com or checking the want ads every night in search of something more suited to your degree (and more likely to help you pay down your student loans)? Not very good. You may find you actually enjoy the job and end up staying with the business in one capacity or another, but when you first start you're GOING to be discontent. "Why am I working the register at the GAP?" you'll ask yourself. "I've got a bachelors degree in psychology. There's got to be something better out there for me."
Nobody's happy in that situation. So why do we keep holding up the same canard that every person should have a college education? You know what, how about we start with every person knowing how to READ AND WRITE before we go shoving them into the same college-shaped box, okay? Because as it stands now, even THAT'S a stretch.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 05:09 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 05:09 AM (8y9MW)
Try grilling it. Olive oil, S and P. And add some red onions too.
Great stuff...and I hate vegetables.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 05:11 AM (2b4yb)
BURLINGTON, Iowa - Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan found a rare point of agreement today with his Democratic opponent, after Vice President Joe Biden said earlier that the middle class has been "buried" over the last four years.
Ryan, on the last stop of his bus tour of this battleground state, said he and presidential candidate Mitt Romney agree that middle class Americans "are being buried by the Obama administration's economic failures."
Joey B. is the gift that keeps on giving
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 05:12 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 03, 2012 05:12 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 03, 2012 05:13 AM (he2LC)
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Yeah, me too. Just seeing his face, just listening to that voice sends me into orbit. I don't think I can handle the debate because of it. That, along with the prime time fellatio from the moderators. I may....may...DVR it in case there are some positive fireworks from Mitt. Otherwise, I'll have to have the Readers Condensed version from everyone else.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 03, 2012 05:13 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 05:13 AM (tWctt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2012 05:15 AM (+tqYo)
And your point can be used to destroy the idea of a minimum wage.
Teenagers are going jobless because they have no skills that are worth the legal minimum wage.
New workers are worthless until they learn some skills, and when they are priced out of the entry-level job market the only skill they will ultimately learn is how to apply for welfare.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 05:15 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 03, 2012 05:17 AM (Os+6p)
Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 03, 2012 05:17 AM (PH+2B)
The video was mentioned on more news sites than I thought it would be
Posted by: General Woundwort at October 03, 2012 06:57 AM (06lNq)
This goes to the point I was making last night on the Tape thread. The MFM is desperate for a story that will allow them to further ignore Benghazi, F and F, the economy, and every other clusterfuck visited upon this country and the world by the miserable failure in the Oval Office. You're going to see them bringing up this tape A LOT, and the line of attack is going to be, "Look how racist the racist rightwingers are, bringing out this racist video!"
But the people who are still in the squishy middle and who don't want to vote against Obama because it makes them feel guilty and, after all, he's such a "nice guy," will see this video and they'll think, "Hang on... this isn't the guy I voted for last time. This guy is... well, he's everything he said he wasn't. So is this the real guy? Which is the real guy?"
That's what I mean when I say the idiots in the squishy middle are going to take away a very different message from the video than the MFM expects them to take away.
And one more thing -- the MFM still thinks the race card is in play. They still don't realize that shouting "RACIST!" in a crowded theater isn't going to generate a stampede anymore. At best you'll get a few heads turning and one or two shouted, "Shut up, fatboy, and siddown."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 05:17 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 03, 2012 05:18 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 05:18 AM (da5Wo)
asswipe of a "President" is enough to give me ulcers at this point, let
alone listen to him getting a ritual tongue bath from Jim Lehrer. I'll
depend on my fellow 'rons and 'ettes to fill me in on the good and bad.
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Yeah, me too. Just seeing his face, just listening to that voice sends me into orbit. I don't think I can handle the debate because of it. That, along with the prime time fellatio from the moderators. I may....may...DVR it in case there are some positive fireworks from Mitt. Otherwise, I'll have to have the Readers Condensed version from everyone else.
This times 100!
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 03, 2012 05:19 AM (R8hU8)
Heh.
My nephew got into college and spent the last four months of high school trying every pizza in the five boroughs, starting with Brooklyn.
DiFara's was either #1 or #2; I don't recall.
There's a place in Carroll Gardens that's pretty damned good, but of course I don't remember the name.
And Keste in the Village is great. Ever been?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 05:19 AM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Thorvald at October 03, 2012 05:20 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 09:15 AM (tWctt)
LOL! Yes, I have.
I always say that folks in the science, math and technical fields are so caught up in the numbers and angles in their own heads that their writing suffers as a result.
But that's okay -- we love them anyway.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 05:20 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 09:15 AM
We offer people $10.00 starting pay for our machine shop and have yet to find a young person who does not text constantly, wander away from their work station for a cigarette break without permission or make it to work on time.
Posted by: El Lobo at October 03, 2012 05:20 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 05:21 AM (BfZ1r)
Are you in FL? I know someone who could use a job.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 03, 2012 05:22 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 05:23 AM (da5Wo)
Sigh.....
Thanks for that cheerful tidbit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 03, 2012 05:23 AM (2b4yb)
New workers are worthless until they learn some skills, and when they are priced out of the entry-level job market the only skill they will ultimately learn is how to apply for welfare.
EXACTLY. And you try to explain that to a leftist, and what do you hear?
"But you can't LIIIIIVE on minimum wage!"
Yeah, no shit. You're not SUPPOSED to live on minimum wage. The paycheck is good, but the importance of a minimum wage job is that it gets your foot on the ladder. You're supposed to CLIMB. Those who hover on the bottom rung are either incapable of achieving more due to a disability of some sort (in which case they're probably receiving support from a family caregiver or the state), OR they're a lazy bum who can't be bothered to work hard enough to get promoted from dog's body to go'fer.
"But it's not FAAAAAAIR!"
23 million unemployed or under=employed ain't fair, crybabies. Suck it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 05:25 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Golan Globus at October 03, 2012 05:26 AM (/1U3u)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 03, 2012 09:18 AM (da5Wo)
I promise not to go jimi ray on y'all.
lol! Besides, I actually have work I have to do. *GASP!*
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 05:26 AM (4df7R)
asswipe of a "President" is enough to give me ulcers at this point, let
alone listen to him getting a ritual tongue bath from Jim Lehrer. I'll
depend on my fellow 'rons and 'ettes to fill me in on the good and bad.
Mr. Romney, why do you HATE the poor, minorities, womyn, gays and want to take all of their money and give it to your rich pals?
Mr. President, when I kiss your ass would you like me to massage your balls too?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 05:27 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 05:28 AM (ma+gB)
Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2012 09:15 AM (tWctt) "
We write better than most English majors. What's your point?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2012 05:28 AM (TpXEI)
#151 et al
ADP is a private company that publishes a monthly jobs number. It is not the official jobs number that will be puiblished by the BLS on Friday. The ADP report has a poor track record in comparison to the BLS number - the August ADP was showing 150+ and the BLS came in at 90. I fully expect the BLS to come up with number good for O on Friday (UE magically drops below 8% when in reality it is over 11%) which is why Romney needs to keep pointing that out
Posted by: NoBama12 at October 03, 2012 05:29 AM (ykY2u)
Looks like Ras will have Obama in front until the election, which is what happened in 08.
Posted by: AL
I get calls for surveys a lot. I hang up. Apparently, so do 91% of the rest of us.
I'll be in line at dawn on November 6th by my polling place.
Posted by: Roy at October 03, 2012 05:30 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 03, 2012 05:30 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 03, 2012 05:30 AM (Vk2CC)
Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 03, 2012 05:31 AM (ma+gB)
Posted by: TD at October 03, 2012 05:33 AM (+uFux)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 03, 2012 05:33 AM (+tqYo)
But that would require Laquatishia or Shakaykay to put down the iPhone5 and scrounge up the wherewithal to make her "Biological Income Units" food to take to school. Hello! All Laquatishia or Shakaykay signed up for was to produce the BIUs and care for them in a minimal fashion until they can turn them over to the school system, etc. Besides that, it take time to get a quality weave and to bedazzle the vajayjay so that Markwese and Mfume can be enticed into stopping by to do their part in the BIU production.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 03, 2012 05:36 AM (kXoT0)
That's much better by a couple dollars than other entry jobs around here.
You can't even get 40 hrs a week anywhere else.
A guy in his thirties we hired four years ago makes $21.00 now
Posted by: El Lobo at October 03, 2012 05:38 AM (+I8Mq)
You offer 10$ an hour to start and wonder why you don't attract better people?
That's pretty damn good where I'm standing. For a kid with a CTE background in high school? That's damn good.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter [/b][/i][/u] at October 03, 2012 05:41 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 03, 2012 05:41 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Miller at October 03, 2012 05:41 AM (Q9T4+)
Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2012 07:40 AM (BeSEI)
Speaking of unfunny cocksuckers, does anybody know what's going on with Letterperv? I've seen on commercials (CBS has some surprisingly conservative shows away from the fuckheads in their propaganda department) where he's been obsessing over Romney not being on his dipshit show; and last night took the tactic of having Jack Black (somebody else whose career has recently been in the shitter) playing the role of Willard for one of the gap-toothed imbecile's exercises in poor interview techniques. I'm wondering if this is one of his handler's unfunny schticks to keep him from molesting the interns or is the network feeling heat for Preznit Talk Show having been on there and having to provide equal coverage to Romney.
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 03, 2012 05:44 AM (GccgV)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 05:44 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Miller at October 03, 2012 09:41 AM (Q9T4+)
The staff at Yahoo is about as bright as Joey B
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 05:45 AM (1Jaio)
Yep, my late FIL, who taught HS school math, after he retired and before his health got too bad used to do remedial math classes for entry level hires for the local office of a multi-national corporation here in Tulsa. That was about 15 years ago and things have only gotten worse as the curriculum as shifted to more study on diversity, Gaea, sensitivity to all things muslim, and all the other Liberal garbage.
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 03, 2012 05:45 AM (kXoT0)
Time to build a wall and just California back to Mexico.
Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 03, 2012 05:49 AM (AREf/)
First question: does the graph's "average" show the median wage, or the mean? The median is what the 50th percentile is making; the mean is the total wages divided by the number of wage-earners. Median is generally considered the more robust statistic. If the graph doesn't say, then the author probably is trying to pull a fast one. I suggest you pick up a copy of "How To Lie With Statistics" - a classic treatise on how to spot when someone is dealing from the bottom of the deck, statistically.
As another 'ron pointed out, another question to ask is whether the numbers have been distorted by a large number of entry-level positions: new hires generally make less than established workers. A spike in hiring will cause a temporary decline in median wages, as newer employees are added. The statistics to compare are the number of new hires, and the percentage of adults participating in the workforce. So, when comparing "average" wages, be sure that comparing like with like, rather than just having everybody pooled together: that is, compare look at the engineers with more than one year on the job, or agricultural workers, or assembly-line workers. Pooling everybody together can be more a reflection of employment demographics than of actual wage rates. If your liberal friend's source can't provide a breakdown by type of worker and length of employment, then said source probably is dealing from the bottom of the deck.
Posted by: Brown Line at October 03, 2012 05:50 AM (VrNoa)
OÂ’bama is a SCoaMFÂ…
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 03, 2012 05:50 AM (1Jaio)
Talk about the 47% that won't for him no matter what he says.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at October 03, 2012 05:50 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 05:55 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: pray for peace at October 03, 2012 05:56 AM (oZfic)
This CNN video from Anderson Cooper's show about what reporter Anwa Damon saw in the Benghazi safe house is very interesting.
The fire was on the inside. A bloody toilet. What could that possibly mean, I wonder?
Posted by: Kagey at October 03, 2012 05:56 AM (EBy+B)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 03, 2012 05:58 AM (GccgV)
Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at October 03, 2012 05:59 AM (OBDWE)
Posted by: SOLDIER of ACE | October 2, 2012, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Come on, everybody knows that Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: fluffy at October 03, 2012 06:00 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 06:01 AM (jx2j9)
Fuck that fatassed turd with Letterman's dick. She got one fucking email from another woman (Womynzz solidarity FTMFL) and then has to whine about being "bullied" and the rest of the MFM dimwits join in. Replace her with somebody hawt and send her a stairmaster.
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at October 03, 2012 06:03 AM (GccgV)
Posted by: pray for peace at October 03, 2012 06:03 AM (oZfic)
I have it on good authority that the Obamaphone woman has been hired by SCOAMF as a paid "urban accent" coach.
Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 06:06 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 06:06 AM (Dnbau)
I watched the first half of the Texas Cruz v. Sadler debate last night. Thank God that Cruz only agreed to debate Sadler twice. Nothing but abusive mudslinging. Sadler threw his shit weight into the fan and wouldn't shut up for any of Cruz' responses. The chief moderator nearly lost it, nearly yanked the microphone from Sadler. My better half wanted to watch the debate and turned it on, but left after 15 minutes. I outlasted, but it devolved into the swamp of eternal stench. I don't watch dog fights, cock fights, blood "sports". Sadler wants to raise taxes in order to "pay off the national debt". AS IF taxes, raised or not, could of themselves pay off the national debt of over 16 Trillion buckaroos. Sadler wants to keep "buying" support from Egypt and Libya, etc., via US foreign aid because "if we don't buy it, they'll sell themselves to Russia or China." Bozo Sadler, whether we give money away or not, Islamist powers are NOT ours; their minds/hearts are not bought and sold to the highest bidder. Amazingly enough, they have their own agenda and play others, ironically the too big to fail powers including the US, to their own Islamist advantage. And it isn't as if any other nation doesn't do the same for themselves. That's politics. Cruz' point was that US tax-funded foreign aid must necessarily have stings attached, specifically, support for US enterprises. Therein, who all heard yesterday's radio interview between Gen. Schafer and Jerry Doyle?
When these political debates don't measure up to the contest of ideas, but are time spent regurgitating the memorized hollow talking points, or, without foundation are used to accuse the opponent of crimes against nature simply for affect, I'm not subjecting myself to more abuse. We've heard MORE than enough shit already.
Who all here has read Romney's 59 Points agenda? Debating Romney's ideas would be time well spent, especially if Romney isn't doing that, for whatever reason, or is not allowed to get into details. Whichever great points he makes, present them. And did Romney compose his own 59 Point report, or is that a compilation from his advisers? One thing unlike Obama, you can trust Mitt to do his own homework memorization. Of the five points the Romney campaign whittled the 59 into for public consumption, where are the ads making the case for these five? Has Drudge, Glenn Reynolds, ace or anyone been posting them for discussion? I've missed it.
Where is the list of Mitt's advisers for public scrutiny? Previous campaigns, ace did plenty of story scoops about top advisers. So far, Romney's campaign platform's only admitted surety is Mitt's endorsement of Netanyahu's version of Israel's destiny which is not limited to its own territories, but would function with the US in determining the fate of other nations. Beyond Mitt's foreign policy gem of more never-ending wars yet (Syria, Iran), McCain/Graham/Cheney/Rumsfeld/both Bush endorsements speak volumes as to "expectations" (but I was building a house) wherein deserve's got nothing to do with it. I don't see how Saudi Arabia and Israel could as "enemy of my enemies" remain allied behind the scenes once all other nations in the region are destroyed for usurpation. Wahhabi does not tolerate anything but itself. Plunging headstrong into chaos is hardly wise. And yet, Romney would continue the federal funding of Saudi allied Islamist radical military forces with the best training and supplies to attack the US Military, while advancing Netanyahu's agenda (against the advice/vote of Israeli intelligence/parliament) unleashing the entire world's dogs of war. Somehow, none of this is registering as insanity among neoconservatives. And those who are not neoconservative are "wrong" for not being neoconservative, for not assimilating with revisionism that erases our Constitutional Republic.
Posted by: panzernashorn at October 03, 2012 06:07 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: wolf at October 03, 2012 06:08 AM (7Jipo)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 06:09 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: thunderb a conservative jew at October 03, 2012 06:10 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Gran at October 03, 2012 06:19 AM (79rba)
Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 06:22 AM (jx2j9)
I liked how the school administrator couldn't "get his hands around" the food issue. You can say "get your arms around" and "get your head around," and you may express something. The only things, rhetorically, you get your hands around are a neck or a porno cock. Telling, isn't it?
I was raised under state socialism just like the restayaz. In the 50's we little students were totally convinced the only purpose of school lunch programs was to get rid of USDA price-control surplus foodstuffs, and I use "stuff" advisedly. I was 20 before I ever saw fresh spinach. Didn't recognize it. Now I grow bushels of it every season.
The bitter memory was of a system devoted to getting you used to the second-rate fare you'd be living with if you didn't break out of your crummy town, school system, job track. Teachers did patrol the lunchroom to make sure you ate the slop that passed for greens, and you had to sit boy-girl, too. They thought it kept the talking down.
It's just me, but I'm in a scout troop half full of hunters and farmers, and them little peckerwoods can't wait to get their hands on good vegetables, if, as we say here, you fix 'em right, meaning in with the venison. The ADD kids from microwave suburbs, though, will try to subsist on sugar candy for a whole week at camp. "Can't" eat meat, bread, peanut butter, beans. Mom says. Might be allergic. Might fart.
After I got out of high school, my sister's generation staged a coup, and there were cheeseburgers and halfway-decent pizza and a place to smoke. That's all over now, of course. There were also courses like "Witchcraft and The Occult in American Literature." Not gone, yet.
Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2012 06:24 AM (qaVK+)
Brilliant: Katie Pavlich on SCOAMF's lies. http://tinyurl.com/9mo5hqu
Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 06:25 AM (jx2j9)
@313 pznshrn
"Beyond Mitt's foreign policy gem of more never-ending wars"
Seems pretty obvious they are going to have them no matter what Mitt advocates as foreign policy. "neoconservatives" Drink!
Though I agree the Wahhabis are a huge pain, ripping the top off that place just gets us a civil war between the Wahhabis and the Shia in the eastern part of the country. There is nothing moderate, secular, democratic or peaceful going to happen in Saudi Arabia if we quit supporting the Sauds. The Saudis and Israelis agree on the danger of a nuclear Iranian Shia empire spanning several nations. They don't have to agree on anything else. "Usurpation" The Jews and Wahhabis are going to take over Iran, nay, the whole Middle East?
That's not going to happen.
Posted by: Beagle at October 03, 2012 06:26 AM (sOtz/)
You offer 10$ an hour to start and wonder why you don't attract better people?
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Reminds me of the time I needed to hire someone for tech support. I sure as hell wasn't going to hire someone inside the United States so I told a customer I was hiring out of another country to save money. He then went on to blaspheme me on the Internets for not hiring American, but paying half the going rate and no strings attached to someone in another country. Had to remind him that he's the same guy that negotiated half my going rate a couple years back or he was quitting service. How ta fuck does he think I was able to give him half price.
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 03, 2012 06:36 AM (kzFo5)
SCOAMF supporter on Fox agrees with Biden that the middle class has been crushed in the last four years.
What an idiot!
Posted by: HtP at October 03, 2012 06:37 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Up with people! A man. at October 03, 2012 06:39 AM (kzFo5)
Posted by: El Lobo at October 03, 2012 09:23 AM (+I8Mq)
Is the job listed at Texas Workforce?
Posted by: Invictus at October 03, 2012 06:41 AM (OQpzc)
any of you Florida morons help me out ? Which 1 is the manatee ?
Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 03, 2012 09:30 AM (Vk2CC)
Hmmm. Hard to tell. Did enjoy looking at the hottie booking photos on that site. Theft of Girl Scout cookies - really?
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 03, 2012 06:42 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at October 03, 2012 06:52 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at October 03, 2012 06:56 AM (kXoT0)
Re Ras numbers - Mitt is down 2 overall but down 9 with indies and we know Ras is using a D+3 or so model? - Number's don't make any sense
RE Mitt is broke - NYTimes ran essentially the same article a month ago and the RNC debunked it. Amazing how the commenters who probably use DVR/TIVO daily don't understand why Mitt is spending on the ground game than on ads that few will watch
Posted by: NoBama12 at October 03, 2012 06:57 AM (ykY2u)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at October 03, 2012 07:20 AM (UU0OF)
Ha,ha,ha,Really. choke, ha,ha,ha
Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 03, 2012 07:27 AM (9+ccr)
Police chief suspended after his affair with fellow officer is exposed when she posts a picture with gun in her mouth
http://tinyurl.com/8khqudj
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