November 12, 2012
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Posted by: Free Sh*t Army at November 12, 2012 02:46 AM (IzkD0)
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 02:46 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 02:48 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 02:48 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 02:49 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 02:49 AM (YdQQY)
Kevin Clash -- the man known as the voice of Elmo -- has taken a leave of absence from Sesame Street in the wake of allegations he had a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old boy, TMZ has learned ... allegations Clash adamantly denies.
We've learned ... Sesame Workshop lawyers recently met with a 23-year-old man who claims he and Clash began a sexual relationship 7 years ago ... when he was 16 and Clash was 45.
Clash has acknowledged to TMZ he had a relationship with the young man -- but insists it only took place AFTER the accuser was an adult.
TMZ
Big Bird.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 02:49 AM (kdS6q)
Robert Kroese's Hilarious Mercury Trilogy
By turns epic and explosive, Robert Kroese's Mercury trilogy draws inspiration from the impertinent, side-splitting, and madcap adventures of Douglas AdamsÂ’s "HitchhikerÂ’s Guide to the Galaxy." The books chronicle the universe-saving slacker angel, Mercury. Destined to be cult favorites, today the Mercury Trilogy books are only $1.99 each (80% off).
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 02:49 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 02:49 AM (opS9C)
I watched the Firefly special last night....damn, I wish that show hadn't been canceled. I didn't even know the show existed during it's three month run. I never heard of it until after it was canceled. I think FOX really screwed the pooch on that one, and now it's probably too late to ever think about bringing the series back....even though all the cast members looked great, and there was a hell of a lot of enthusiasm from the thousands gathered to watch them at the 2012 comicon.
Ah well. At least I still have Jerry Springer's Disfunctional Real Housewife Confessions From Jersey Shore. /spit
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 12, 2012 02:50 AM (L7hol)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2012 02:52 AM (56kxb)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 12, 2012 02:53 AM (L7hol)
Gridlock.
They wanted to retain a (D) Senate and a (R) House and keep the present precedent. So, if it's gridlock they want, then that is what I hope the Republican party gives them for the four years. No compromise, no bipartisanship, tight control of spending. Obama is not the head of some third world dictatorship. If he wants something, we get something. Not just a little something, but twice something.
Smash mouth politics.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 12, 2012 02:54 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: macintx at November 12, 2012 02:54 AM (/p4zq)
On The Brighter Side (OTBS) on the aftermath of the election results:
My phone isn't ringing nearly as much now.
More Americans are utilizing their Second Amendment rights.
People from 20 States have petitioned the WH to secede from the Union.
Many doctors will decide to retire and get some well needed rest.
Nancy Pelosi is still in the suckass House minority.
Lots more people are reading up on prepping.
I can drive to Colorado and get legally stoned if the urge ever hits me.
There were less riots than expected.
I'm drinking less and my liver is grateful.
I don't have to check Rasmussen every day.
All that bad news they had to hide is now coming out.
I haven't seen a camgaign ad in days.
Those evil rich people are about to take it up the wazoo but hard. Some will fire their butlers.
Vic didn't fall out of his porch rocker and bump his head.
I didn't have to pick ball hairs out of my pudding.
steevy doesn't have to come with a new slogan.
As Morpheus noted in the cavern of Zion, "We are still here!"
Feel free to add your own.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 03:00 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 07:00 AM (ccXZP)
Ha! Amateur!
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2012 03:02 AM (56kxb)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 12, 2012 03:05 AM (BKWpy)
The Top Headlines thread has never been about content. The original intent was to discuss the headlines linked in the sidebar.
I started putting in link with snarky comments about headlines from all over a few years ago.
And yes, before the troll broke the blog they were real links that actually linked.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 03:06 AM (YdQQY)
It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.
"We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," said Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University. "It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia."
Still, was there not one contrarian voter in those 59 divisions, where unofficial vote tallies have President Obama outscoring Romney by a combined 19,605 to 0?
The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods - clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia - fertilizes fears of fraud, despite little hard evidence.
Philly.com
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 03:07 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 03:07 AM (opS9C)
General Petraeus won't have to worry about a cigar, beret, or blue dress. Also, Paula isn't the looker like that other girl, Ms. Lewinsky.
Posted by: BillyBob Clinton at November 12, 2012 03:09 AM (lDWQr)
Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 03:09 AM (h9Wqe)
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 12, 2012 07:05 AM (BKWpy)
What paranoid nonsense. Give your money to me.
Posted by: Zac Moffatt at November 12, 2012 03:11 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 03:14 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 03:16 AM (oxs+O)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 03:17 AM (IS2o0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 03:18 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 07:17 AM (IS2o0)
FIFY
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 03:19 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 12, 2012 03:20 AM (QupBk)
Democrat Kent Conrad, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee also expressed optimism but suggested Congress agree on plan that would at least give lawmakers enough time to reach a more comprehensive deal to overhaul the entitlement program and the tax code.
"You can't settle every detail in these next few weeks,” he said on Fox. “What you can do is agree on a framework.”
Because we didn't didn't know there was a budget problem and stuff. Maybe we should form a SUPER COMMITEEEEEEE!!!!!! Yeah, that'll fix the problem....with LASER FOCUS!!!!!! Oh man, now that we know about the problem, the thought juices are REALLY flowing
Posted by: Bruce at November 12, 2012 03:21 AM (z4eur)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 03:21 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:21 AM (XkWWK)
I didn't like that movie the first time I watched it. But very time I watched afterwards it got better. I consider it one of hist best now.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 03:23 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 03:24 AM (YdQQY)
The Republican party habitually caves on every important measure and refuses to fight against Democrat attacks and memes.
Take for instance the financial melt down.
The Republicans took 100% of the blame when it was in fact Clinton era policies and Democrat financial doogoodery that was the exclusive cause.
The Republicans had no hand in any of this other than taking the blame.
WE'VE BEEN HAD!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 03:26 AM (06lNq)
Man with no name?
Dirty Harry?
Gunny Sgt Highway?
Outlaw Josey Wales (my fav)
Monkey Movies?
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 03:27 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 03:28 AM (oxs+O)
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 03:28 AM (a/3Pu)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 03:29 AM (IS2o0)
Actaully the CRA bull shit law was passed druing the Carter reign of terror when the commies controlled both houses and President.
It was expanded during Clinton first 2 years when once again they controlled. But the Repu8bs never rolled it back when they controlled all.
Someone may have called them "racist" and NBC would be mean to them.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 03:30 AM (YdQQY)
Both of our major grocery stores in the area have a free turkey with some 300 to 400 dollar purchase over some time period. One radio ad I heard said they were dropping the minimum amount because of power outages and stuff. People with no power had to go out to eat and stopped buying groceries for a week or two.
One thing I can never figure out is how a 20# turkey gets you about 5# of meat and a carcass and some bones that weigh about 2#. Where the hell does the rest of the weight go?
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 12, 2012 03:31 AM (feFL6)
Machine guns..shooting...stuff blowing up...dead Nazis...shooting...machine guns...oh yeah.
And Outlaw Josey Wales.
It's not for eating, it's just for looking through.
Posted by: Bruce at November 12, 2012 03:31 AM (z4eur)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 12, 2012 03:32 AM (ogdab)
Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 03:33 AM (h9Wqe)
Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 03:33 AM (YdQQY)
Romney and Ryan time and again stated that Obama inherited a bad situation, which many interpreted as the bad situation was inherited from the Republicans.
WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GODDAMNED FINANCIAL MELTDOWN!!!
WHY THE FUCK DID WE ACCEPT ALL OF THE BLAME!!!!!
The Republicans are in direct coordiantion with the Democrats.
I no longer trust anyone who calls themselves Republican.
I would say get behind the Tea Party but the Democrats and Republicans have worked hard to poison them. A great many people now think of the Tea Party as racists and or lunatics.
I HATE EVERY GODDAMNED POLITICIAN!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 03:36 AM (06lNq)
In fact, isn’t it – thanks to political correctness – one of the few crimes that everyone still takes seriously, even Guardian readers? And more than 50 rapists, who have admitted the offence, have been given cautions for it? Shouldn’t the Government have fallen?
http://tinyurl.com/cm53v22 (Daily Mail UK)
It's a discussion of hidden crime stats and unpunished crimes by Peter Hitchens, brother of the late Christopher Hitchens.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 03:36 AM (ccXZP)
Sitting on the porch with my morning coffee watching the sheeple drive by the Talibill compound on their way to work. It's liberating to have fully made the transition to the entitlement society.
Posted by: Talibill at November 12, 2012 03:37 AM (tdZGt)
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 03:37 AM (YdQQY)
A pull quote from the Philly.com article above:
In the entire 28th Ward, Romney received only 34 votes to Obama's 5,920.
Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicans live in the ward's third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.
Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others didn't answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none of the neighbors across the street Friday knew him. Cathy Santos, 56, founder of the National Alliance of Women Veterans, had one theory: "We ran him out of town!" she said and laughed.
Oh, the fun we have.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 03:39 AM (kdS6q)
Its a good thing that the inflation index omits the two things that are really the only true indicators of inflation:
1) Food Prices
2) Fuel Prices
So no inflation.
In the last four years my grocery bill has inflated from $50 dollars a week to almost $90 dollars a week a 45% increase.
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 03:39 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 03:40 AM (LpQbZ)
Yeah but we're gonna kill turnout and we're the bad citizens for wanting voter ID enforced.
Guys secession already happened, don't believe the PR it happened in 2000 and we didn't leave they left us.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 03:40 AM (LRFds)
At least I'm glad Our Conservative Betters, the elites of the party and its squishy media efforts, are not firefighters. They would not bother finding and extinguishing a fire even when there's smoke. As it is, whatever evidence that points to major election tampering and theft can be swept under the rug long before any Repub can be bothered to look for it.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 12, 2012 03:42 AM (yKUrR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 03:43 AM (da5Wo)
Just another piece of the puzzle.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 12, 2012 03:43 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 03:47 AM (LpQbZ)
The larger puzzle is:
WHERE THE HELL DID 3 MILLION GOP VOTERS GO!!!
Voting was down overall 10% against a turnout history that indicates at minimum 7% increases every Presidential Election.
WTF IS GOING ON!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 03:47 AM (06lNq)
Instructional you tube video.
http://tinyurl.com/9924nyt
Posted by: Bruce at November 12, 2012 03:48 AM (z4eur)
WHY THE FUCK DID WE ACCEPT ALL OF THE BLAME!!!!!
The goddamn financial meltdown was caused by the popping of the goddamn housing bubble which was created by the goddamn economic "experts" in the Bush administration in the wake of the goddamn dot com collapse. They argued that since housing usually leads the economy out of recession, we should jack up housing prices to avoid a recession. This is a textbook case of confusing correlation with causation.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 03:48 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 03:48 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 03:49 AM (ccXZP)
Best case scenario Galt's Gulch,
worst case scenario I am behind the power curve on pondering being an illegal immigrant in some wonderful country that demands we take in Mexico.
I'm not gonna tell you which I think's more likely.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 03:49 AM (LRFds)
Look stud Bush should personally have been forced to dig our N'walins but barky's got game a golf game.
//your friends the M$M
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 03:50 AM (LRFds)
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I want this. Oh yes, I do.
Have spent a lot of the past week thinking just how futile this has all become. Our suicidal federal government, crazed libs that will.not.stop. and the mental capacity of people like the Bama Pho woman in Cleveland have left me with no other opinion than we need to dissolve. We're not "united" anymore anyway. Not ideologically, not culturally.
Much to my surprise, I've found out that being taken care of trumps the basic human desire for freedom and liberty. Who knew??
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2012 03:50 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 07:28 AM (a/3Pu)
Seonded.
Posted by: Darth Randall at November 12, 2012 03:50 AM (mV8sg)
Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 03:51 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: JDTAY at November 12, 2012 03:51 AM (a0nis)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 03:52 AM (XkWWK)
Well that explains why all his appearances were in Iowa and Virginia and Ohio, and he never set foot in Indiana. If you're high.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 03:52 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 03:52 AM (jWhdv)
The Federal government is supposed to exist as empowered only if it guards the bill of rights which were the MINIMUM of liberty not maximum.
That ship has long since sailed so it is time to break up the leviathan and let the states try to be the shield.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 03:53 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 03:54 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 03:55 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 03:56 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 03:56 AM (6H6FZ)
It's axiomatic that Washington DC is a corrupting influence on everyone who enters...regardless of intentions.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 03:58 AM (GsoHv)
No dickface.
The financial meltdown was caused by Clinton ere polices that forced lenders to make risky loans to people who otherwise would not be able to obtain a loan.
Because fairness.
Then the government through Freddie and Fannie may began securitizing all of the sub prime loans.
Bush tried to reform all of this bullshit but was shot down as being a big fucking meanie and hater of poor people.
All this shit was cooked up way back in 1992 by Clinton and his HUD secretary and Henry Cisneros.
YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 03:58 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 12, 2012 03:59 AM (zZJJp)
"Raising tax rates, as some have proposed, will slow down our economy, hurt small businesses and destroy more than 700,000 jobs. Instead of going over the "fiscal cliff," let's focus together on pro-growth tax & entitlement reform to build a stronger, healthier economy."
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2012 04:00 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:00 AM (jWhdv)
A Special Forces hero jailed for keeping a gun as a war trophy has been ‘betrayed’ by the Army, his wife said yesterday.
Sergeant Danny Nightingale, a crack SAS sniper with 17 years of service, was sentenced to 18 months in military detention after admitting illegally owning a 9mm Glock pistol.
The weapon was a gift from a group of Iraqis he helped train in 2007.
http://tinyurl.com/ad6lu2r (Daily Mail)
He should have raped someone instead. (see my post #56)
Oh, and my vote is for Josey Wales.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 04:01 AM (ccXZP)
http://is.gd/ePl64U
“It really will have a profound influence on decisions that get made about transferring the farm from one generation to the next,” said Trudy Wastweet, national policy adviser with the Iowa Farm Bureau Federation. “That is something that keeps Iowa farmers up at night wondering what the tax code will be.”
Meh. That's what they get for hiring foreign nationals who voted for SCOAMF.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 04:01 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 04:01 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 12, 2012 04:02 AM (ogdab)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:02 AM (jWhdv)
the Bush administration in the wake of the goddamn dot com collapse.
They argued that since housing usually leads the economy out of
recession, we should jack up housing prices to avoid a recession
The financial meltdown/housing bubble was created by CRA and years of low interest rates. In addition stupid "green space" laws in States like CA. Read Thomas Sowell's book.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:02 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:02 AM (LpQbZ)
I can't find online but here's the pull quote, the background being that he got decimated by the long primary, and was out of cash. While Obama engaged in early vilification with a flood of advertising dollars...his early effort was the necessity to raise cash...
''It meant visits to places like California, Texas, and New York -- none of which were important political battlegrounds -- while only allowing for short side trips to swing states...''
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 12, 2012 04:03 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 04:03 AM (X3lox)
Yeah well I don't think John is just gonna roll.
Instead of throwing the entire GOP under the bus let's watch what the hell they do first.
Ogabe is about to have reality frag him under the water in the deep end of the pool.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:03 AM (LRFds)
recession, we should jack up housing prices to avoid a recession.
----
Ridiculous! But thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2012 04:04 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 12, 2012 04:04 AM (tLbhw)
That was a very small part of it.
Bush tried to reform all of this bullshit but was shot down as being a big fucking meanie and hater of poor people.
Citation needed. I remember Bush constantly bragging that home "ownership" was at some ridiculously high level. And he was the one who appointed Butthead Bernanke.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:05 AM (nt7V9)
3d party guarantees the donks go even more radical but okay...it's always a great idea to keep turning our caucus against each other more and more...
brilliant fucking operational and strategic thinking GOP.
screw it legalize the mexicans tomorrow.....why not??
Not like we give two shits about winning and it'll make secession legal.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:05 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: soothie at November 12, 2012 04:05 AM (ms+kz)
I guess it didn't used to smoke cloves.
We already have one, and it's not benevolent.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 04:06 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 04:07 AM (5DR1j)
Tens of thousands of corpses and mutilated bodies later...
Kristol is a liar, who will lie pompously on matters of the gravest importance, where lying is least forgivable. Everything that comes from his name or near it is not to be trusted.
I don't know of any topic where he is a reliable conservative. There may be one, but I would not count on it. He is simply a warmonger, who has obtained influence over the right.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 04:07 AM (NH/xU)
''Back in spring, the Romney campaign's biggest worry was money. So the campaign's finance chair, Spencer Zwick, huddled with political director Rich Beeson to craft a complex schedule that took Mr. Romney to the cities that were prime real estate for fundraising.
It meant visits to places like California, Texas and New York—none of which were important political battlegrounds—while only allowing for quick side trips to swing states that Mr. Romney would need to win to become president.
On one level the strategy worked: Mr. Romney ultimately garnered some $800 million or more, putting him in close competition with Mr. Obama's robust fundraising effort.
But Mr. Romney paid a deep political price. The fundraising marathon reduced his ability to deliver his own message to voters just as the Obama campaign was stepping in to define the Republican candidate on its terms. Mr. Romney's heavy wooing of conservative donors limited his ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to moderate and independent donors.''
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 12, 2012 04:07 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: JDTAY at November 12, 2012 04:07 AM (a0nis)
Oh no, no, no, no. We're supposed to "Let It Burn." Fighting it is just useless. We should run and hide.
/extreme sarc
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 04:07 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:07 AM (jWhdv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 04:07 AM (XkWWK)
The party only needs one chubby regional lunatic for flamethrower....
I'll go with Newt if I wanted to watch Obama get a blowjob I can turn on th evening news no need for the GOP to aid.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:08 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 04:08 AM (79ueO)
Tweets from 1991. Although it really hasn't been "country" since I was in diapers.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 04:08 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:05 AM (nt7V9)
There is a u-tube video out there of both Bush and McCain sounding the warning on Fannie and Freddie and the housing market. With an attack by Bwarney Fwank and Piss Dodd saying there was no problem.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:08 AM (YdQQY)
Romney is a good man, but he needed to talk like Reagan. ("Gov is not the solution ....") If there was ever a time for hard line small gov. ideas, this was it.
Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 12, 2012 04:08 AM (zZJJp)
But mostly years of low interest rates. Set by Bush appointee Bernanke. To prop up the stock market.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:08 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 04:09 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2012 04:09 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:09 AM (jWhdv)
I hope you realize by now that you have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 04:09 AM (GsoHv)
Um you ever ponder the Let it burn crowd and go to ground is because a lot of us who went all in trying to stop President Evil see that our caucus is not a herd of cats so much as a herd of jackalope?
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:09 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:10 AM (LpQbZ)
Aliens.
plus
Paint Your Wagon for shits and giggles although the FBI apparently didn't find it funny.
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 04:10 AM (MOWP1)
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 04:10 AM (NH/xU)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-race-slipped-away-from-romney.html
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 12, 2012 04:10 AM (feFL6)
Along the line you are arguing, here's some support:
http://pjmedia.com/blog/it%E2%80%99s-not-the-economy-stupid/
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (6H6FZ)
Here you go dickface
http://tinyurl.com/dbo9ss
Do a search for "bush reform fannie mae"
Most search engines will auto complete that for you by the way.
Do you know why numb nuts?
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (06lNq)
which is why Bukakke was fired and the stock market is now lower unless you fucking trojan horse populist lib moles need to brag that everything is okay even with 23 million unemployed b/c look Helicopter ben and choom saved wall street....
let it burn
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2012 08:09 AM (z4WKX)
Yes, and they are both calling for us to get involved in damn Syria now.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (YdQQY)
Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. Hope you had as good of a weekend as you could, considering. I hope you’ll forgive me, but I’m going to pull back for a while; the reelection of TFG has just sickened me so much that I want to keep away from current events for the rest of the year. I’ll still provide a new story during the week, but other than that, I’m going to keep a pretty low profile here at the HQ except on the morning thread.
So hereÂ’s a Red Skelton story, from Hollywood columnist James BaconÂ’s book, Hollywood Is A Four-Letter Town:
‘Red once got very much interested in photography. He soon owned every kind of camera and piece of equipment on the market. . .one night her called me up to his house, which was high atop a hill in Bel-Air, and we went up to his bedroom. Red showed me a projection machine with a powerful telephoto lens and said, “Look down there on Sunset Boulevard. See that house on the curb with the white garage door? You see it?’
‘I saw it all right, but I was not prepared for what use Skelton would make of it. He took out a stag reel. I still remember the title – [b[The Little Sister[/b]. It was one of those filthy reels where the wife’s gorgeous little sister comes to visit. The wife leaves the sister with the husband to get better acquainted. Well, in a matter of seconds, they are well acquainted indeed – both nude and doing all the oral sex acts people do in stag reels.
‘Red had focused this reel on the white garage door on Sunset Boulvard. You could hear the brakes screeching all the way up the hill. Can you imagine driving down a busy street and seeing a girl going down on a guy on a garage door?
‘Showing this reel became a popular pastime of Red’s until the cops traced the light beams. Red got off with a warning, but the curve forever after has been called Dead Man’s Curve.’
Now hereÂ’s a Jackie Gleason story:
The Great One always lived the high life. Even doing the TV role that first made him famous – that of Chester Riley in The Life of Riley – he barely made $300 a week, but spent money like water. Now, this was around 1948-1949, and each evening, after shooting was complete, Gleason and friends would head over to the Villa Capri* for a party.
Gleason would always sign for the bill. After he’d finished shooting the first 13 episodes of Riley, he returned to NY, leaving behind nearly $5,000 in tabs. The Villa’s owner, Patsy D’Amore, was an old friend of Gleason’s from Brooklyn, so he only shook his head when people berated him for letting Gleason walk out on his bill. “He’ll pay some day,” D’Amore insisted.
A few years went by. Riley was over, but through the strength of The Honeymooners, Gleason was able to sign an eight-million dollar contract with CBS. Closing up a seasonÂ’s shooting in NY, he returned to Hollywood and the Villa with a few friends. After an evening of spaghetti and Soave Bertani, the tab came to fifty bucks. DÂ’Amore presented the check without mentioning the other tab.
Gleason didnÂ’t say a word, either. Glancing at the bill, he pulled out his checkbook. Writing a check, he folded it in two and placed it in DÂ’AmoreÂ’s hand, then gathered up his friends and headed out. When he got to the door, he looked back.
Patsy nodded and unfolded the check, which was made out for $6,000.
He met Gleason’s eyes and The Great One smiled. “I’m a big tipper, pal.”
Hope you all have a wonderful day.
*Which will figure in tomorrowÂ’s story. Stay tuned. . .
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (XkWWK)
Don't forget Spitzer pushing Greenberg out of AIG. they never would have backed all that trash if he was still at the helm. Them backing the crap helped create the market which got all the banks in trouble.
Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (zZJJp)
Mr. Romney's heavy wooing of conservative donors limited his
ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to
moderate and independent donors.''
Yep, that's exactly how I remember the Romney campaign. Anchored to the hard right like a limpet.
Of course, that could be due to the metal plate in my skull.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 04:11 AM (kdS6q)
I did read your entire comment.
My point is that a third party will take decades to penetrate the circles of power in DC.
This isn't the Whigs morphing into the Republicans. There is far more power entrenched in DC, and they will suppress any third party with the force of both the Republicans and the Democrats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 04:13 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 04:13 AM (XkWWK)
Play country music backwards and you get back the USA's guns, national prestige, national identity, and world esteem....
tweets from 2017
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:13 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 12, 2012 04:14 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:14 AM (jWhdv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (XkWWK)
Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:14 AM (nt7V9)
exactly....Helicopter Ben is a Bush stooge except he probably single handidly voted Ogabe back in office for the low low price of a few trillion bucks in funny money.
I'm done let it burn I can survive better than free shit army.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:15 AM (LRFds)
How many times do we need to say we lost because a shit ton of Republicans sat at home.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:16 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 04:16 AM (6H6FZ)
um dumbass he tried over and over....the CBC and Media painted him as a monster for even suggesting it....
Yup Busjh was an asshole son and he is to blame for the downturn of glorious Clinton era to this day....
some dumbass Mexican American democrat in 2177
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:17 AM (LRFds)
BETTER THAN OUR OWN POLITICIANS CAN!!!!
I mean they do have a staff right?
They have access to all of the same shit us commoners do?
Do we not have an war room where they do this kind of strategy and push back?
WTF!!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 04:17 AM (06lNq)
Since everyone else is already making the arguments which just highlight your ignorance, I'll just chime in with:
STFU, idiot.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 04:17 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (nt7V9)
Because he never had 60 votes in the Senate.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:17 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 04:17 AM (X3lox)
yeah well no the massive Bill Kristol and "Bush did an awesome job defendingt eh GOP thanks to Rover the great's advice" caucus was stabbed int eh back by the small self identified conservative special interest.
Like i said in my rage earlier this last six days Vic....the GOP's gotten their last dime from me.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:18 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 04:18 AM (Ho2rs)
ItÂ’s racial politics. And you donÂ’t beat them by adopting them.
http://tinyurl.com/bez2jmn
For the Left, it took “systematic persistent organizing and education,” as Howard Zinn advised back in 1969.
Are Republicans willing to do the same thing?
**
She makes her point. And the answer to her question is "No."
Republicans willingly swallow propaganda of their own taste every bit as foolishly as Democrats swallow swill.
Joe the Plumber Republicans have been shanked by the GOP.
Whatever "it" is per election, Republican Leadership willingly play the Democrat's bitch as are those who persist in voting for THAT leadership from power-mongers. The Republican Leadership coalition is NOT with the American taxpayer citizens voting Republican. The Republican Leadership act on their own selfish behalf for their own corrupt enrichment. They have insulated themselves from grassroots.
Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan's first administration would never tolerate GOP Leadership persistently abusing Republican voters. 2012 GOP Convention proved the big tent is a whore house for the gullible, every bit as rotten as the Democrat Party.
The big tent GOP went so far as to disenfranchise the conservative activists who willingly do the same “systematic persistent organizing and education” of Americans only on behalf of Constitutional Governance rather than promoting authoritarianism.
I turned off the tube election night while the "moderators" sang their chorus: The Democrats have the big tent now.
COALITION
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 12, 2012 04:19 AM (BAnPT)
I swear to god you are one dumb fuck.
http://tinyurl.com/crj8b9n
And he didn't reverse the policy BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FUCKING DICTATOR ASSHOLE!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 04:19 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (nt7V9)
Because he never had 60 votes in the Senate.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:17 AM (YdQQY)
Neither did Clinton, who somehow created the policy.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:19 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 04:19 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (YdQQY)
What could possibly go wrong?
Syria is shooting into Israel to distract attention from their internal conflict. Eventually Israel will respond aggressively, and then maybe Obama will invade...Israel?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 04:20 AM (GsoHv)
I did a massive number of posts back in '08 about the willful risk laundering of portfolio risk by the GREs...
I am not wasting my time pointing it out again....not for a GOP that wants to cut in front of Chris Matthew's in the congratulations Obama line with new Jay Z kneepads.
Have fun GOP.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:20 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 04:20 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 04:20 AM (h9Wqe)
Yeah well if you think there is one rulebook in Washington DC you're enough of a tard you must be a union Republican....
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:21 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:21 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:21 AM (LpQbZ)
More from that WSJ handout from the Republican Party Congregatio ds Propaganda:
The campaign also never figured out how to get beyond a damaging policy position from the primary season, a tough line on overhauling immigration laws. Mr. Romney refused to embrace legislation that might give some illegal immigrants long in the U.S. a path to citizenship, and instead advocated what he called "self-deportation."
Struggling to win the primary, the campaign's political team decided Mr. Romney needed to draw a contrast on the immigration issue to differentiate himself from the other Republicans on stage. The candidate's hard-line stance alienated Hispanic voters, which would prove a critical failing in the fall general election.
Yep. The amnesty deal is done. Now comes the selling.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 04:23 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 04:24 AM (opS9C)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at November 12, 2012 04:24 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:24 AM (LpQbZ)
Now now now. Quit worrying your pretty little head.
You'll get all upset.
OTBS, the adrenaline release will help clear your sinuses.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 04:24 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 04:25 AM (opS9C)
Read the account in The Air Force Magazine, October 2012 issue.
Posted by: panzernashorn at November 12, 2012 04:25 AM (BAnPT)
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:19 AM (nt7V9)
Clinton did not "create" the policy. Carter and his congress did and yes, they had 60 votes.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:26 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 04:26 AM (nxN0L)
They pass blanket amnesty watering down my legal vote as a US citizen to the point I am doomed to die nothing more than the third world's direct piggy bank I encourage each of you to take the time to write a letter telling your GOP rep to decide if they are staying in the Potamac swamp or coming home in 2 years but you better start looking for a fucking house.
I will.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:26 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 04:27 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 12, 2012 04:27 AM (SO2Q8)
The CRA passed during the Carter administration, but it wasn't enforced.
Clinton decided to enforce it.
That singlehandedly created the housing bubble.
Bush really really wanted to stop it, but for some reason, it never occurred to him that he could just refuse to enforce it like the presidents before Clinton did.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:27 AM (nt7V9)
2001
April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”
That was one of the first fucking things he wanted to do when he took office
I HATE THESE FUCKING IDIOT!
I HATE MY OWN PARTY!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 04:27 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:27 AM (jWhdv)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 04:28 AM (u5ozF)
Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 04:28 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: Sick Frick at November 12, 2012 04:28 AM (JCIjD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 04:28 AM (79ueO)
Posted by: Minesweeper at November 12, 2012 04:28 AM (sMt7r)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 04:28 AM (XkWWK)
You must be a Progressive cum guzzler and Marxist because the whole BUSH IS NOT A DICTATOR thing went right over your head.
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 04:29 AM (06lNq)
Just one more pull from the WSJ article:
Mr. Romney had spent so much money winning the nomination that he was low on cash; aides, seeing the problem taking shape, had once considered accepting federal financing for the campaign rather than rely on private donations.
So Team Romney actually considered using the incredible successful Mccain 2008 financing strategy?
Why, dandy -- just dandy.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 04:29 AM (kdS6q)
Yeah hey you know what I just learned....
being a locust assed racial politics shitstirring lawyer who sued to try to force the banks to adhere or face penury during the clinton years and Bush years spreading magic acorns to have doom grow gets you 2 terms in power instead of 2 concurrent sentences in the clink....
I am gonna get my JD and make that the only major case set I ever sign on to.
Donks are blameless and should be the ones to steward a free market.
You win, I quit.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:30 AM (LRFds)
Remember arguing with your kids...when they were in 1st grade? This is the same thing.
He wants his own facts.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 04:30 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 04:30 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:31 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:21 AM (LpQbZ)
Yes I do, but they don't make any sense. Blaming the 2008 meltdown on Carter is as dumb as the liberals blaming it on Reagan.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:31 AM (nt7V9)
And the Investment banks going public so it wasn't the partners asses on the line.
And everyone buying more house than they could afford because prices were only going up.
And yet another system (finance) taken over by the middlemen (traders) and being run for their benefit.
And people just not getting that a lot of things don't break linearly.
It's "Seconds from Disaster" and we're all tee'd up for another go round.
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 04:31 AM (MOWP1)
Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 04:31 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: edj at November 12, 2012 04:32 AM (+QKfp)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 04:34 AM (79ueO)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 04:34 AM (u5ozF)
I said that he might as well vote Democrat. He said, "no", the Democrats don't understand economics. I said they understand economics really well. He has a country club membership, and still takes his Social Security check, because he's "entitled to it".
I am not a Republican, because I don't want to be a Democrat.
Posted by: tubal at November 12, 2012 04:34 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: dogfish at November 12, 2012 04:34 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Lilredhen at November 12, 2012 04:34 AM (JDLBK)
Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 04:35 AM (nxN0L)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 04:35 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 04:37 AM (nxN0L)
But he was all like Hitler and shit, don't you remember the paper-mache heads with the mustaches? /s
In other news, Elmo's puppeteer is a pederast. Looking for pictures of Elmo with Harry Reid.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 04:37 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 04:37 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:37 AM (jWhdv)
Yes you can go back in time and blame other administrations for shit
I blame Nixon for the EPA and other agencies that have morphed into leviathan.
I blame Reagan for Simpson/Mazzoli that is going to be the catalyst for the demise of this nation.
I blame Clinton for 9/11 as his polices allowed it to happen.
I blame Bush for not using his veto pen and for allowing spending to explode under his watch.
Your a clown begone!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 04:38 AM (06lNq)
Ogabe-68 New regulations a day so far living up to what I warned in detail...
he is regulating "responsibility for bio degradeables from the erosion of building material coating
In recent days, for example, the EPA posted a proposed rule involving volatile organic compound emissions from architectural coatings: “We are approving a local rule that regulates these emission sources under the Clean Air Act (CAA or the Act),” the proposed rule states. “We are taking comments on this proposal and plan to follow with a final action.”
Have fun America....
I aim to live in a converted cargo container or in my semi that runs from Canada to America on relief runs.....
it'll be hard crossing the Friendship bridges with the Federally Mandated Windmill on the top of the cab but maybe I'll figure it out....
that's how progress works Barry's buds pass a regulation and voila technology just magically happens.
FUCK YOU FREE SHIT ARMY
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:38 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: In Cognito at November 12, 2012 04:39 AM (erYRT)
My 5 year old has better reading comprehension and logic skills than you.
Scratch that (well, it's true, but doesn't show enough of my disdain): My 3 year old has better comprehension and logic skills than you.
I'm pretty sure my dogs have better comprehension and logic skills than you. It's hard to know for sure, because they don't have opposable thumbs.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 04:39 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 04:40 AM (jWhdv)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 04:40 AM (79ueO)
Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 04:40 AM (nxN0L)
Mutually beneficial stupidity at the expense of the nation isn't necessarily collusion it's just another thing our system creates.
Politics costs $.
People build parties to spread those costs.
Winner takes all (non-parlimentary) little d democracy means there's only room for 2 parties.
This is why 3rd parties don't work and actually get the opposite result.
These 2 parties work in oppo in DC but are closer to each other than the public and get paid to keep the fight going not solve it.
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 04:41 AM (MOWP1)
ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to
moderate and independent donors."
He didn't seem to be running on the right, but he may of been far to the right of his preferred position. He once ran to the left of Ted Kennedy; he may have run to the left of Obama too, had his donors permitted it.
None of us knows Mitt Romney's real opinions or preferences.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 04:42 AM (NH/xU)
How many morons would be injured in the stampede to put a chute and dump em in on those two?
Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 04:42 AM (MOWP1)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:42 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (X3lox)
The Fed lowers interest rates by buying up good paper, which forces investors to buy shit paper if they want any yield. Which encourages the issuance of more shit paper. Of course now the Fed is buying the shit paper too.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:42 AM (nt7V9)
If they say "no" you scream RACISM! and SEXISM! and REDLINING! Then the federal government tells the bank to issue the mortgage or everyone's going to prison, and the bank says the funds will be available tomorrow, and would you like an "equity loan" so you can take a cruise next summer?
Is my understanding, anyway.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 04:43 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 12, 2012 04:45 AM (VtjlW)
correct but try being a veeteran who refuses to yell "now eleventy!" and get a mortgage going....
Heather you need a house?
No joke it is not a bad one so far as it goes and evidently we're not exploding yet like the greenwood border.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:45 AM (LRFds)
IOW, in a true court of laws the entire law would have been declared null and void. But alas, we haven't had a real court since about 1850.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:46 AM (YdQQY)
Since I'm so stupid, perhaps you could point out the error in my post 185?
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:46 AM (nt7V9)
My appologies, not much politics in me today. I'm still in mourning I think. Heading down to the local gun store to do some shopping to beef up the Talibill armory before the black helicopters start showing up. That puts the start of a smile on my face.
Posted by: Talibill at November 12, 2012 04:46 AM (tdZGt)
People build parties to spread those costs.
Winner takes all (non-parlimentary) little d democracy means there's only room for 2 parties."
Right.
But even if the institutional right acts like it's just paid to keep the "fight" going, the left play to win in the long run. Hence mass immigration and a constant leftward shift in politics.
The best solution would be for equally forward-thinking activists to take over the Republican Party and start pushing hard and pro-actively the other way.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 04:47 AM (NH/xU)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 12, 2012 04:47 AM (3Y7RV)
Exactly wrong. Which just explains how completely ignorant you are. Stop embarrassing yourself.
The Fed lowers interest rates by... lowering interest rates. Banks borrow money from the Fed to operate. They pay interest on that borrowed money (called the Prime Rate, usually). Banks then lend that money out at higher interest rates to make what we, in the real world, call a "profit." That Prime Rate is set by the Fed.
Other things also drive the interest rates you pay on credit, and get paid on investment/savings, but the only thing the Fed gets to do re: Interest Rates is set the Prime Rate.
The Fed purchasing Government bonds is a completely different issue- actually far worse than any monkeying with the interest rates.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 04:48 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:48 AM (LpQbZ)
Hey fuckhead glad to see you accept you're stupid that's step one...
How many "Presidents' were there between Beijing Billy and Carter?
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:49 AM (LRFds)
Standard loan practices were 20% down and no more than 25-30% of income going to the mortgage payments.
After the rules were changed:
You could get 0% down mortgages and up to 75% of income could go to paying the mortgage, in other words FINANCIAL CATASTROPHE WAS ASSURED AT INCEPTION!!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 04:50 AM (06lNq)
Others have and you just ignore them. I'm not going to waste my time on explaining to you what you have no desire to have explained.
So instead I'll just mock.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 04:50 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at November 12, 2012 04:50 AM (WbGW2)
Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2012 04:50 AM (z4WKX)
AoSHQ, the blog the commentators run.
And we like it.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at November 12, 2012 04:51 AM (wR+pz)
being a busboy in Shanghai I bet....
Look Freedom is there you just have to use the Jack solution at the end of Fight Club and go both ways....
if you quit chasing shit you don't need and go to ground and race free shit army to the bottom we can wreck the whole con game.
We're fucked we're not gonna get "social security" until we're 70 but barack Obama just made us DNR probably starting at age 60....
the race has been defined and they'll kill you anyway.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:51 AM (LRFds)
Axelfuck knows where his bread is buttered.
He is out there saying he wants to groom young people to go into "journalism".
Posted by: Fresh at November 12, 2012 04:52 AM (O7ksG)
My response was arm both sides or stay out because they are both evil SOBs. Everyone knows the rebels are Al Queda.
Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 04:52 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2012 04:52 AM (Rhie+)
=====
"Bush hates the black peoples! Bush hates the black peoples!
Posted by: Mainstream Media and Democrat Politicians at November 12, 2012 04:53 AM (lTVJy)
Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 04:53 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Fresh at November 12, 2012 04:53 AM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 04:53 AM (79ueO)
I've been pondering it and I guess it ain;t a bad idea to have a a few spares.
I'm heading out to start shopping for fieldcraft kit.
A lot of pain in NYC would have been saved if they'd have adhered better to my Grandma's advice to always have a blanket or three nearby after august.
God help you blue staters because I never will voluntarily again.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:54 AM (LRFds)
@189 But only now ... do I fully comprehend the full scale of the bonitude
A noble beginning, Grasshopper.
From Sovereign Man, "I Apologize for What You're About to Read"
With the rise of baby boomer entitlements and steady increase in overall debt levels, mandatory spending and interest payments have exploded in recent years. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office predicted in 2010 that the US government's TOTAL revenue would be exceeded by mandatory spending and interest expense within 15 years.
That's a scary thought. Except it happened the very next year.
For fiscal year 2012 which ended just 43 days ago, that shortfall ... was $251.8 billion.
In other words, they could cut the entirety of the Federal Government's discretionary budget - no more military, SEC, FBI, etc - and they would still be in the hole by a quarter of a trillion dollars.
The whole article is worth reading.
We are so boned.
The Math Witch will not be burned.
Posted by: crisis du jour at November 12, 2012 04:54 AM (J1eJz)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 04:54 AM (XkWWK)
Umm, no. The Fed lowers interest rates through open market operations. Google it.
Banks borrow money from the Fed to operate.
No, they don't, unless they're in trouble. They do borrow money from each other however.
They pay interest on that borrowed money (called the Prime Rate, usually).
Banks then lend that money out at higher interest rates to make what we, in the real world, call a "profit." That Prime Rate is set by the Fed.
No, that would be the Fed Funds rate. And it is set by the market. But the Fed intervenes in the market by buying or selling securities to force the market rate to be something close to what the Fed wants it to be.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 04:55 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:40 AM (79ueO)
He is the ultimate "Post-Modern" Jew.
When the Muzzies take over they will chop off his head, and he will die wondering why.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 04:56 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 04:56 AM (X3lox)
This is a good point. I've just been informed that I sound like I smoked a couple of cartons of cigarettes this morning. It's attractive, let me tell you.
It's even better if you walk into a meeting, put your hands on your hips and do your best Bette Davis:
"What a dump!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2012 04:56 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:42 AM (nt7V9)
There were also the incorrectly used derivatives they were using to "wash" these investments clean. I read up on the math before but essentially they were making assumptions about the statistics of that money that wasn't true, so these repackaged assets were actually just toxic.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at November 12, 2012 04:57 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 04:57 AM (XkWWK)
Yeah dumbass in a text book....what the high fuck do you not understand you motherfucking retard?
Mitt's 47% lament was about the fed buying up 90% of these bond issues with imaginarium......
Jesus fucking Christ this ain't "it's a Wonderful life" sonny it's "fuck you subsidize oil in Brazil not the US.....
let it burn
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 04:58 AM (LRFds)
On other news, IT'S SNOWING!!!! WOO-HOO!
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 04:58 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 12, 2012 04:58 AM (ogdab)
Fuck Eric Ericson.
We lost an election because of a poorly executed GOTV operation.
In other knee jerk articles, much is being written about "Tea Party" candidates losing downticket. People like Akin and Murdouch have nothing to do with the Tea Party. In the future, if people with a social agenda wish to vote for candidates who favor lower taxes, smaller government and less regulation, we are happy to have their support, but don't confuse them with our priorities.
Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2012 04:58 AM (ZDsRL)
And you don't think that the Federal Reserve has tremendous control over the Open Markets meetings?
You are a fool.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 04:58 AM (GsoHv)
I'd rather trust my Head Cashier/Manager of Compliance Father who has been in banking for working on 40 years (including several as an FDIC auditor), as well as my own experience working at a bank.
Thanks for playing, though.
Since you choose not to be educated, you are fit only for mocking.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 04:59 AM (8y9MW)
When the Muzzies take over they will chop off his head, and he will die wondering why.
No, he won't. To his last breath, he'll tell himself he deserves it.
GD, I'm getting pissed off. I'm out of here.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2012 04:59 AM (zF6Iw)
When the IRS finds fraud, they do not attempt to prosecute every case.
They find a few high profile cheats, and they come down on those few cases like a ton of bricks.
Then, the rest of us fall in to line.
Posted by: navybrat at November 12, 2012 05:00 AM (r1ty1)
Clowns like this are why we are in the sorry state we are in today.
It's as Reagan said:
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so!"
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 05:00 AM (06lNq)
Heather my mortgage is very reasonable compared to rent here.
Stay in touch...I go in tomorrow for my shoulder's passenger.
Not too worried I mostly get the one and not the other.
Keep your head up.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 05:00 AM (LRFds)
=====
"Bush hates the black peoples! Bush hates the black peoples!
Posted by: Mainstream Media and Democrat Politicians at November 12, 2012 08:53 AM (lTVJy)
But it was a Clinton policy! He was the first black president!
Posted by: Bush at November 12, 2012 05:01 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 05:01 AM (nxN0L)
Posted by: schit-zoid at November 12, 2012 05:02 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: schit-zoid at November 12, 2012 05:03 AM (8y9MW)
Ok, then ask him what open market operations are. Also ask him about the difference between the Prime Rate and the Fed Funds rate.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 05:03 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: schit-zoid at November 12, 2012 05:05 AM (8y9MW)
http://tinyurl.com/bxkezzs
"Clinton declines to testify...."
http://tinyurl.com/ansctkj
What. The. Fuck???? Issue the damn subpoenas and quit fucking around.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 05:05 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: JDTAY at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (a0nis)
No need to go there because Barry is bringing it here
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2012 05:06 AM (1Jaio)
which brings us back to secession...since Blue City America evidently already seceded in 2000.....
here we sit.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 05:08 AM (LRFds)
DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran launched military drills across half the country on Monday, warning it would act against aggressors less than a week after Washington accused Iranian warplanes of firing on a U.S. drone.
The maneuvers will take place this week across 850,000 square kilometers (330,000 square miles) of Iran's northeast, east, and southeast regions, Iranian media reported.
Have no fear, Captain Gutsy Call will do something. Like go on vacation
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2012 05:08 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:56 AM (X3lox)
When the Fed buys low-risk low-yielding paper, it depresses the yield further and forces investors to buy higher risk paper to maintain their yield. This buying depresses the yield of the higher risk paper, causing it to become shit by your definition.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 05:11 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 05:13 AM (Ho2rs)
Best wishes to you all from me Down Under - so sorry about the election result
Looks like our shitty Federal Government is looking closely at your Prez's successful campaign strategies - can't say I'm looking forward to those ads that you were inflicted with ...although our circumstances are very different as in:
1. We have an Electoral Commission which is Australia wide so all voting age citizens are on their electoral roll
This Commission controls all elections right down to local ones
2. We have paper ballots - no machines to be tampered with
3. Voting is compulsory and is on one day only on a Saturday from 8am to 6pm - no earlier
If you are away you can vote absentee but you have to apply for a ballot paper as soon as the election is called
For Fed and State elections you can vote out of your electorate because each polling booth has the same roll Australia wide
We don't register with any party affiliation - we are just a name on the electoral roll
Of course we have our MSM almost all with a lefty lean, unions and plenty of stupid airheads who clamour for social justice, equality for all, and follow celebrities breathlessly...........
Posted by: aussie at November 12, 2012 05:14 AM (/chYc)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:58 AM (GsoHv)
Umm, yeah. The Open Market Committee is part of the Fed.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 05:14 AM (nt7V9)
Here is the bottom line dick face.
The rules were changed so that everyone and anyone could could get a loan regardless if it made any financial sense to do so.
The government securitized all of these worthless notes through Freddie and Fannie.
Bush, as one of his first acts tried to fix this. He was rebuffed. He tried many times and was rebuffed every time.
The piper came calling the tune as the housing bubble burst the government was left holding the bag hence the meltdown.
The Democrats were the architects of all of this.
The Republicans allowed all of this madness to happen when they should have fought it.
The Republicans got 100% of the blame, which to this day they have not even attempted to correct.
NOW FUCK YOU VERY MUCH AND GO AWAY!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 05:20 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 12, 2012 05:20 AM (3Y7RV)
There was something wet running down my face.
Posted by: MarkC at November 12, 2012 05:20 AM (Kf68R)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 05:21 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 05:23 AM (jWhdv)
Go to your library and look for Rosetta Stone.
I am pondering mandarin, French, or Spanish....
am I a slave resigned to fate and willing to swear patriotism to a corp?
am I a person who gives up on commerce and capitalism and just goes to where I can dabble enough to live and go north to wait to die
do i count on being ruthless enough to carve out a space managing the invaders and being the guy who trains them to run the nation they just stole?
I'm going with 1 or 2.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 05:23 AM (LRFds)
Yea we protests with the Tea Party, but then just stand around and get defined by Oblamo and crew...
This is an Asymmetrical task ... You cannot defeat the ideals in an "All in one Approach"...
You have to make the other side respect your ideal...or in other words give them undesirable CONSEQUENCES...
I vote with my Dollars EVERYDAY...
Why do Conservatives continue to buy UAW products when we know it is a money laundering scheme for the DNC?
Posted by: Chicken ala King at November 12, 2012 05:23 AM (VvvBE)
um no...this has sweet f**kall to do with israel and everything to do with juan vasquez nice try though Paulnut
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 05:23 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 05:24 AM (ck76k)
good points and why I'm slowly a total pessimist....
too mahy of us like new stuff enough we feed the beast.
I'll never buy a new non commercial vehicle again.
See you detroit.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 05:25 AM (LRFds)
Your playing a fools game with a fool
This is what they do.
He has changed the subject to esoteric concerns.
Dem policies caused the financial meltdown.
The Republicans for reasons that elude me, decided to take 100% of the blame.
And now we have to suffer fools like Schitzoid!
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 05:26 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 05:28 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 05:31 AM (jWhdv)
Yeah well if Kristol's influence were just to israel I'd be okay dickhead....
you know in a sane world the Donks blowing the goatf***ers would cost them votes...
instead we get "let the holy land burn" b/c Kirstol eleventy....
There's a reason someone else is picking up the check on the next race.
This gun's retired.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 05:31 AM (LRFds)
Why is high yield debt called "high yield?"
(yeah, I know the answer and if you insist, I'll give a full response in my next reply--but how about we just start there)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (jWhdv)
Because it has a high interest rate, which in a normally functioning market, suggests a high risk of default.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 05:41 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 05:51 AM (ck76k)
if you think we don't know what the Kristol caucus is and is not you may want to read us for about two weeks...
what I and many others here aren't is subtly disguised stormfront folk...
not accusing you hard of it by the way.
Here's the deal I am forced into a corner wondering since Barry and the Donks won using tribal tactics if I need to bury the hatchet with the Buchanan wing.
That ain't comfortable for me since it means I let Israel get nuked first if he had his way.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 05:58 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 06:02 AM (jWhdv)
Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 06:16 AM (ck76k)
Well, I could have said "because it has a high yield," but as an answer to "Why is high yield debt called 'high yield?'" it would have sounded stupid.
I agree with your points, especially this last one:
The problem is not in making that type of bet. The problem is, as Primordeal was saying, when you think it's safer than it actually is. If you think you have a 10% chance of getting your money back on that sort of bet, but only have a 1% chance, then you're fucked.
The Fed has been buying crappy debt like MBS, driving its price up and yield down, to create the illusion that it's safer than it is.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 06:28 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 06:51 AM (jWhdv)
Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 06:59 AM (h9Wqe)
No, it means that if you buy it at the current market price, and it pays off as promised, you will earn a high yield.
if investors believed it was priced too high, they could have just shorted the debt.
Ask the ZeroHedge crowd how well that works. Yes, if the price is too high due to Fed manipulation, you can short it. But if the price goes even higher due to more Fed manipulation, you are fucked. There's no limit to Fed manipulation, and thus no price level at which it is safe to short.
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 07:02 AM (nt7V9)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 07:50 AM (jWhdv)
Posted by: Ron at November 12, 2012 10:06 AM (V7uPm)
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