1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Thursday, November 08, 2012.  On this day in 1895 Wilhelm Röntgen discovered the X-ray.  On Nov 9 comic books had ads on the last page for X-Ray glasses for horny teens.

2 House panel to hold hearings on Benghazi today.  Since we lost ground in the Senate instead of taking it expect another big nothing burger.

http://is.gd/UQBOzs

3 The first inkling of exit polls.  Keep in mind that these answers reflect opinions of the people who voted, not the ones who stayed at home. Although Obama voters declined by 10 million, Romney voters also declined by 2 million.  That we did not expect.  I havenÂ’t checked turnout in the key swing States yet.  But looking at the people who actually voted it looks like minorities and Hispanics gave it to Obama.  Remember the ground game by the Dems is the union GOTV.  Both OH and VA are heavy union States and they gave it to Obama.   This is where I see Republicans needing work.  They are going to either have to destroy the unions or get something comparable.  But from the people who voted it appears that (1) The hurricane helped Obama (thank you MFM and Fat Man)  (2) They blamed Bush for the bad economy (thank you MFM)

http://is.gd/vLiLs7

4 Evil anti-Muslim film maker sentenced to a year in jail for probation violations (or so they say)

http://is.gd/1hSvN9

5 Harry Reid will attempt to end the filibuster.  IIANM he can do that at the beginning of the upcoming term with a simple majority while voting in the rules.   He needs to remember though, what goes around comes around.  We will not always have Senate candidates who stick their feet and their own dicks in their mouth responding stupidly to questions from the MFM.

http://is.gd/WxhcqN

6 Tax Cheat Timmy says extraordinary measures are needed as debt limit nears.  I agree, do not raise it and force Obama to cut spending by $1.1T.

http://is.gd/UfdxmJ

7 Fox details how the MFM elected Obama.

http://is.gd/2URAmr

8 Crying Boner is about to sell us out.

http://is.gd/7h1w6W

9 Romney camp now hitting the Fat Man.

http://is.gd/9xOr7I

10 Now that he is safe behind reelection he backs the UN gun control treaty.  But not to worry, Roberts will call it a tax.

http://is.gd/Ft8Y5G

11 I am seeing a LOT of this kind of shit in the news today.  Even in the relatively conservative WaEx.  “The electorate has shifted.  There are more Dems  No it hasnÂ’t.  Dem voting was down by 10 million.  Its just that Republican voting went down as well.  This is what needs to be looked at.

http://is.gd/ZtclPB

12 Good morning. Remember. The purpose of politics is to engage in family and personal life better. Think of the political challenges our ancestors faced. Ours may be big and we'll never fix them all. But are they really so much bigger? Go back far enough along your family lines, and I don't think you'll find it so.

13 To my Conservative friends: Just because we lost doesn't mean we were wrong. Our principles and beliefs, true to the founding, are the bedrock of all that we believe and strive to acheive. They are neither immoral nor unjust and altering them at the whim of the electorate, or compromising them at the behest of the deeply biased media makes us complicit in our own demise. If this is the last hill, so be it. I'd rather finish with my chest out, integrity intact, swinging than mewling apologies and begging forgivness from a group of people that think I'm a racist, mysogynstic, homophobic bigot.

14 BEAVERCREEK — A Mitt Romney supporter has chosen a unique way to express his dissatisfaction with the election results, and neighbors are taking notice. News Center 7 received calls Wednesday night from residents in Beavercreek who were not happy about their neighbor flying the U.S. flag upside-down. One caller said it might not be illegal, but it’s offensive to the people in the neighborhood. Despite what his neighbors think, Ray Lewis said flying the flag upside-down is an international symbol of distress and he felt compelled to do it as a form of “peaceful protest” following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

15

Morning, all.

 

Small Dead Animals had a video up in June of  '11 about teh wonder of algorithms and how they're used in EVERYTHING -- including election predictions.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Chicago crew targeted the districts they were going to lose and coordinated a few trunks full of votes IYKWIMAITTYD.   I'll be fascinated to see Allen West be the winner afterall since he actually had the nads to ask for a recount.

 

 

Video:  http://bit.ly/TLyJPn

 

 

Also, the WaPo even hints that the numbers don't add up: 

http://bit.ly/TLSB4I

16 To David E. You have a point, and yet practically, political compromises will continue to need to be made. By everybody.

17 I fear the next four years are going to be far worse than we even imagine.

18 We will not always have Senate candidates who stick their feet and their own dicks in their mouth responding stupidly to questions from the MFM.

From the results any candidate who is asked about abortion or rape on camera might as well find a set of electrified tracks and lay down directly across that third rail before answering.

I know here in Pa, Obama campaign ran a video of Romney saying something about 'going after Roe Vs Wade'. Over and over and over again.

19 The first article in the sidebar from American Thinker sums it all up. We can bitch and moan about "outreach," demographics, depressed turnout, Akin and Mourdock, Sandy and Krispy Kreme, and the MFM from now until the end of time. The fact is is that we lost this election decades ago, when the Marxists took over the classrooms and brainwashed several generations of American youth, and poisoned them to turn against us. I screamed and wailed endlessly about taking back the schools. Well, it's too late now. G-d help us all.

20 Why is everyone asking if SCOTUS has a Man Date did the media "discover" the Larry Sinclair story?

21 The next 50 months is going to be the longest lame duck session you ever saw.

22 I agree spypeach.  It's going to be ugly.  Cloward and Piven here we come.

23 I'm never voting for the Fat Man. I don't blame him for Romney's loss as much as I don't like him. He comes across as a jerk now as opposed to how he used to come across as tough. Besides, I can only envision a man like that getting in the Oval Office chair and getting stuck like Winnie the Pooh got stuck in Rabbit's Hole. In the worst way.

24 The difference between the elections of 1980 and 2012? There was no Ronald Reagan. Mitt may be a good guy, but we needed Ronny. I now think the likes of Lincoln and Reagan are anomalies.

25 Drudge had the link up yesterday, I don't know if it's still there...

39%

That's what Obama got, from white people.

There is a  map that shows which states Obama would have lost, if only white votes were counted.  It included California and New York.  It did not, interestingly, include Iowa.

This may not be the ONLY explanation of the results we saw on Tuesday, but it's huge. 

26

The modern conservative movement began with the defeat of Barry Goldwater. A reminder from ol' Hitch:

 

http://tinyurl.com/bt875d4

27 Dem voting was down by 10 million. Its just that Republican voting went down as well. This is what needs to be looked at.

We ran the candidate that lost to McCain in the primaries of 07-08. If Romney had garnered as many votes as McCain in 08 it would have been a victory.

28 In-depth analysis of vote totals VA and OH

VA

2012

R = 1,781,445
D = 1,891,486        

2008

R = 1,725,005
D = 1,959,532

R down by about 30K, D down by 70K

OH

2012

R - 2,586,467
D - 2,686,609

2008

R - 2,677,820
D - 2,940,044
R down by ~ 100K, D down by ~  254K

So in both cases Democrat votes went down considerably, but so did Republicans. It follows the national numbers.  We expected our side to have a wave and the wave never came.   That is the story of the election.  So the unions did not give it to the Dems in these two States.  Republicans sitting at home gave it to them.  How could many of us, and especially me, have been so wrong on the Republican turnout?  Are we truly an isolated group feeding ourselves with regenerative political feedback?  (Another thing to keep in mind is that the Republican and Democrat turnout in 2008 was down from 2004.)


Remember what I and a lot of people have tried to hammer home over and over. The candidate who inspires his base to get to the polls and vote is the one who wins.  Romney did not inspire the base.  That is the short and final answer.


So piss on all these pundits calling for Republicans to pander to certain blocks to “expand” the Party.  We should not “pander” to any group.  If we do that we become the Democrats.  We should offer a Party plank of conservatism for all regardless of ethnic origins.  Republicans need to change their Primary rules to get a candidate who inspires the base. Would my man Perry have had a different turnout?  We will never know, but it could not have been any worse.  We lost to the worst President in modern history under an economy that is truthfully in another great depression. 

29 Damn took 4 different tries to get Pixy to take that post

30 We lost because Independents didn't get excited for Mitt. Why that is will be a subject of debate for some time. My personal guess is that people saw the two men as advocating basically the same positions (Obama: raise taxes on the rich, Romney: close their loopholes to raise revenue). This coupled with ingrained, stupid cynicism lead people to stay away when they thought there were going to be long lines at the polling places. The big takeaway, I think, is a need to make inroads with minorities, and I think we do this with social issues.

31 I think I might have to buy me some stock in Smith & Wesson, Colt and Interarms. I imagine gun sales are going to absolutely skyrocket even more than they have the last 4 years.

32 Harry Reid will attempt to end the filibuster. IIANM he can do that at the beginning of the upcoming term with a simple majority while voting in the rules. He needs to remember though, what goes around comes around. We will not always have Senate candidates who stick their feet and their own dicks in their mouth responding stupidly to questions from the MFM.

http://is.gd/WxhcqN

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 06:52 AM (YdQQY)

Vic, given the current state of the GOP, do you think he really has to worry about being in the minority at any point in his lifetime? I sure don't. Besides, he can depend on the spineless GOP to not do the same to he and the Dems anyway, if they do look up and get a majority back at some point.  He has absolutely no reason to worry about future punishment for doing this, not from the GOP wusses.

33

And here we are again, fellow ‘rons and ‘ronettes.

 

“Bitter recriminations” is right.  But, in the middle of trying to black out (it takes more than just one bottle of MacallanÂ’s 12, IÂ’m here to tell you), it occurred to me that we conservatives are now like the monks of Iona during the Dark Ages, trying to preserve Western civilization against the rampaging savages.  Perhaps we may keep the light of freedom burning long enough for a new Alfred or Arthur or Roland to take America back from the vandals who are plundering what they despise.  I suspect Mark Steyn could do a better analysis along those lines than I can.

 

HereÂ’s a story about Darryl Zanuck, chief of Twentieth Century-Fox:

 

When he was satisfied with a rough cut of a new movie, Zanuck would get a few of his staff together and preview it cold before an unsuspecting audience.  Then, while one assistant collected the comment cards the audience had filled out, Zanuck and the rest of his staff would do what he called a “curbside autopsy” – stand in a huddle outside of the theater to discuss if the movie needed further editing.

 

After one particular preview, Zanuck and his men were standing in front of a candy store discussing the movie.  As they spoke, a man walked out of the theater, joined them, and told them what he thought.  Everyone in the group assumed  he was from the studio, so they listened carefully to his comments, Zanuck occasionally breaking in with an “I like that” or “you might be on to something there.”

 

After the man left, Zanuck said, “That guy knows his stuff.  What department is he with?”

 

The assistants looked at each other in confusion.  “We donÂ’t know, Mr. Zanuck,” one finally said.  “We thought you knew him.”

 

Zanuck ordered an assistant to go fetch the man, who was halfway down the block.  When he was brought back, Zanuck eyed him narrowly.  “Do you know who I am?”

 

The man shrugged.  “Nope.”

 

“IÂ’m Darryl Zanuck.  IÂ’m the head of Twentieth.  Do you work in the movies?”

 

“Nope.”

 

“Well, you do now,” Zanuck barked.  “YouÂ’re my new PA.  Report to the studio first thing tomorrow.”

 

And IÂ’ll see you all first thing tomorrow.

34

Despite what his neighbors think, Ray Lewis said flying the flag upside-down is an international symbol of distress and he felt compelled to do it as a form of “peaceful protest” following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

 

Our local Patriot group leader is doing the same thing.

35 @#16 You can compromise when there is room to compromise, and when the other side wants a compromise. The other side wants no compromise and sees no reason to compromise as they have complete control even though GOP has the House. Life, Liberty, and following the Constitution as law should never be compromised.

36 Vagina carried the day

37 We lost because Independents didn't get excited for Mitt.


Probably not true.  If you read those exit polls Romney took the majority of the independents.  But those are the ones that voted.

38 15 Posted by: RushBabe at November 08, 2012 06:56 AM (tQHzJ)

I have mine flying upside down here in Ohio (Medina County)...and will do so through this weekend.  Then I will remove it and leave it folded until we end our current error.

39 The big takeaway, I think, is a need to make inroads with minorities, and I think we do this with social issues.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 08, 2012 07:05 AM (uhAkr)

If minorities gave a flying shit about social issues they would never have voted for Obama.  From what I see minorities only give a shit about free shit and minorities. 

We can never out Democrat the Democrats.

40 37 -

I'm hoping the notion that evangelicals stayed home is put to rest.

They didn't.  They were out there voting for Mitt.

Somebody else didn't, and it right now the most likely culprit is the squishy middle. 

41 What the "right" of both parties used to have, to counteract the unions' influence, was veterans organizations. Peace ampersand prosperity, the VA, and really effective educational work have neutered that -- and yet a poll worker might still have to deal with a fat guy in a Vietnam hat bitching about no flag being up the pole at the closed senior-citizen center owned by his town government that they almost forgot to unlock, while getting his card punched to vote for the cocksucker who left the seals to die in Benghazi, cut the nukes to 300, and decommissioned the Enterprise -- how was your day, by the way?

In today's Make Your Life Better, Losers: home castration for the smoke-free! There must be something else you can give up. "Dude."

New study shows baldness indicates near-death heart flaws; Joe Biden to open national chain of plug centers...

42 When I was young(er), there was a certain time-frame of expectations. By the age of 30 it was expected that you were married, had a full time job, were settled in a career in a position that would be around for a couple of decades. You might have had a house, maybe some children, and were acutely aware of  affairs in the community, school, and nation. I believe the word 'vested' would be appropriate.

Fast forward to 2012 where 5 million of the perpetually coddled children of baby-boomer parents between the ages of 18 to 30 decided this election. They now can't even be expected to graduate college before they are 26 years of age. Obama and ObamaCare took care of continuing their health insurance to that age. Romney was going to repeal their new little perk. They may marry, before 30, but it is becoming statistically more rare. The entire venture into adulthood and becoming vested in a community and paying into the tax system has been pushed back nearly a decade. So what were their 'hot buttons' -- or at least the ones that the Democrats thought and capitalized on?

1. The sanctity of abortion in their eyes - third rail for (R)'s
2. Birth control -- free or at least universal insurance coverage -- maybe nobody wanted to see Sandra Flake in person but she got front page attention

I don't have the answer.

43 Yes, the GOP once again nominated a candidate to appeal to the independents and the independents once again said, "eh, well, he's okay, but I got better things to do than vote." And a lot of the base said, "well, they sure don't seem to care much about what we think so why bother?" And, presto!, you have 3 million fewer votes than a train wreck of a campaign like McLame ran managed.

If you give people a choice between a Democrat and a Democrat, they'll pick the Democrat every single time. And I saw that as someone who thinks Mitt ran as good a campaign as a candidate such as Mitt could run, and who thinks he's a really quality human being. (shrug) Being a good guy doesn't win you elections these days.

44 "I think that a more libertarian message sells better — and nobody thinks libertarians are like the preacher from Footloose — but, then, I’m a libertarian."

Posted at 9:51 pm by Glenn Reynolds

45 15 / 38

...by the way, was working in CLE yesterday and a house across the street was flying theirs upside down...went over and chatted with him...local police Sgt. in an Eastside CLE suburb.  This burb is predomininantly Jewish and liberally leaning...he gave me an earful about his neighbors.  Good dude.

46 I am pretty dang annoyed by most everything today. Then I read post number twelve. The one with the stupid hyperlink in the nic that goes nowhere. Now I am really annoyed. What the hell is that statement supposed to mean?

"The purpose of politics is to engage in family and personal life better. "

No, uh, no. Politics is bloodless warfare. If they could not take our stuff with the vote, they would (attempt to) take it by force. If we cannot vote to keep our stuff, we lose it to the looters. We just lost a whole bunch of our stuff. And our power to survive and prosper.
And the word gamgee annoys the shit out of me. For some reason.

47

If minorities gave a flying shit about social issues they would never have voted for Obama. From what I see minorities only give a shit about free shit and minorities.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 07:12 AM (YdQQY)

 

Repubs ran away whenever social issues came up in this campaign. Why would they vote for us if we act like we are ashamed of the positions they care about?

48 Has anyone else yet started contacting the NFL about their Superbowl halftime show entertainer? Her "take that mitches" tweet, surely should be a disqualifier. Why the h*** would the NFL want to offend 49.9% of their viewers? I emailed them this morning.

49 I repeat for those who did not read that long post.  We lost because a LOT of Republican voters sat it out in key States.


We are going to have to find out what group did that in both 2008 and 2012.

50 Mitch McConnell must go, Boehner too.

51 “The electorate has shifted. There are more Dems No it hasn’t.

Yes, it has.  Demographics is destiny, and Ted Kennedy knew exactly what he was doing.

52

I hate conspiracy theories, but I have an American colleague here, does part-time work in our office, former Obama supporter now big-time Republican, but still with close friends in the Democrat community.  All she heard in the weeks going into the election was that Dem turnout would be low as the election was already in the bag.  Her theory is that well-known plans for fraud is what caused the huge early voting among Republicans--again, her anecdotal evidence--as a means to try to combat the fraud, and what brought turnout down on election day, for both parties.  For whatever it's worth.  I just found it interesting because in the thousands of words of analysis I have read, I hadn't read that.

53 On candidates...*tons* of people who didn't agree with Reagan on a whole range of issues (including me, when I voted in 1980 and 1984) voted for him anyway because they respected the fact that he had sincere, deeply held beliefs and could articulate why he had them.

On public school teachers: until we figure out a way to stop the leftwing political indoctrination of our children, election results will continue to get worse and worse for conservatives. You know, some real reform instead of some stupid shit like "No Child Left Behind" that W wasted time and money on.

54

If we're done hugging, crying, and doing the Stuart Smalley BS- I think a little rage is in order. You just can skip steps like that.

55

"I think that a more libertarian message sells better — and nobody thinks libertarians are like the preacher from Footloose — but, then, I’m a libertarian."

Posted at 9:51 pm by Glenn Reynolds

 

Thats bull. The GOP waged a pretty libertarian campaign, completely dropping social issues and only advocating economic liberty and it didnt work. 

56 Pillage and looting isn't a political philosophy, but that's what drives one of the parties and apparently a majority of our citizens.  I don't have an answer to that now that will win elections, but running further to the right, while gratifying on a personal level, would not have changed the outcome. 

57 1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, November 08, 2012. On this day in 1895 Wilhelm Röntgen discovered the X-ray. On Nov 9 comic books had ads on the last page for X-Ray glasses for horny teens.


Glasses didn't work. Just sayin'.

58 I fear the next four years are going to be far worse than we even imagine.

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2012 07:00 AM (pwTow)

Not worse than I can imagine. And don't assume it'll just be 4 years.

59 Day 2 of waiting for the country to burn. Exactly what day do the Bush tax cuts expire? That seems like a good place to start.

60 It wasn't just Romney that lost it was the GOP brand in general. The loses for the GOP were far and ranging from the moderate Romney and Mia love to the conservative Richard mordock to the liberal Scott brown. What the GOP is selling people are clearly not buying. 3 million fewer votes than McCain? Seriously?

61 Thats bull. The GOP waged a pretty libertarian campaign,completely dropping social issues and only advocating economic liberty and it didnt work.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 08, 2012 07:18 AM (Rn7r2)

But the Dems beat the Republicans over the head with social issues continuously.

But looking at those exit polls for the people who voted they voted on the hurricane and blame Bush.

62 I think I might have to buy me some stock in Smith & Wesson, Colt and Interarms. I imagine gun sales are going to absolutely skyrocket even more than they have the last 4 years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 08, 2012 07:06 AM (XkWWK)

Wait for a pullback...they all zoomed higher yesterday...pretty much the only stocks on my watch screen (out of 200+) that did go up yesterday.

63 >>> Probably not true. If you read those exit polls Romney took the majority of the independents. But those are the ones that voted. My theory, that some Christians stayed home for Romney, had at least the benefit that it wasn't that a defeat and we can do better next time with a Christian candidate (and I'm not a Christian). Alas, it wasn't born out by the data. No, what the data says is much worse. Per Jim Geraghty: "Ari Fleischer points out the silver lining is that so far, Romney is winning independents. ThatÂ’s not a silver lining, thatÂ’s worse news: Democrats donÂ’t really need independents anymore." http://goo.gl/4rYlD --- >>> Morning, all. >>> Small Dead Animals had a video up in June of '11 about teh wonder of algorithms and how they're used inEVERYTHING -- including election predictions. I wouldn't be surprised if the Chicago crew targeted the districts they were going to lose and coordinated a few trunks full of votes IYKWIMAITTYD. I'll be fascinated to see Allen West be the winner afterall since he actually had the nads to ask for a recount. >>> Video: http://bit.ly/TLyJPn >>> Also, the WaPo evenhints that the numbers don't add up: http://bit.ly/TLSB4I Posted by: RushBabe at November 08, 2012 06:56 AM Oh noes! They used "algorithms". >>> and how they're used inEVERYTHING including your brain. And on Google. And throughout nature. And by any person trying to analyze, predict, and shape events. Including whether to brew tea or not. RushBabe, do yourself a favor and listen to Rush on this: http://goo.gl/d9usW The fact is, we got creamed. It sucks, but there it is. The polls were right. Obama didn't just pay off every single friggin' polster to make the average of both the national and state polls bang-on dead in accordance with his planned, secret fraud. And if he did, he's competent as hell, and we should like elect him President or something. Back to reality, please -- how to improve future election performance in a demographically and technologically changing country.

64 @#10 wtf...Anyone know where to get a nice kel-tec sub 2000? I guess nows the time to buy all kinds of goodies, and LOTS of ammo.

65

Not worse than I can imagine. And don't assume it'll just be 4 years.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2012 07:20 AM (qEkGZ

Thanks for the pep talk
I totally agree with you, I can't shake the feeling of dread and hopelessness, I'm haven't turned on the T.V. since Tuesday night, I'm trying to keep myself in a bubble, but it's not working.

66 I still don't get the hurricane thing. Exactly what do people think Obama did? The response has actually been pretty slow. FEMA works for no man.

67 3 Both OH and VA are heavy union States and they gave it to Obama.


And a big schadenboner when sequestration wipes out VA. Talk about reveling in the lamentation of their women. Along with PA when the EPA smacks the shit out of them on coal.
You wanted teh JEF? You got him. OWN IT in silence.

68

Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, November 08, 2012. On this day in 1895 Wilhelm Röntgen discovered the X-ray. On Nov 9 comic books had ads on the last page for X-Ray glasses for horny teens.

Glasses didn't work. Just sayin'.

 

Posted by: rickb223 at November 08, 2012 07:20 AM (d0Dmj)

 

My eyes!  The goggles, they do nothing!

69 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 08, 2012 07:24 AM (SKX2R)


You have no data to support that and you are full of shit so why don't you produce some data or STFU.


The religious people who voted for Romney, not Obama.

70 "If minorities gave a flying shit about social issues they would never have voted for Obama. From what I see minorities only give a shit about free shit and minorities." W emphasized social issues and defense when he won in 2004. Hell, McCain did better than Romney by emphasizing national security. And think about how much less money he spent. Running on a platform of taking away free stuff from minorities demonstrably doesn't work. So, try the God route.

71 Has anyone else yet started contacting the NFL about their Superbowl halftime show entertainer? Her "take that mitches" tweet, surely should be a disqualifier. Why the h*** would the NFL want to offend 49.9% of their viewers? I emailed them this morning.


****

I would be willing to bet that NFL viewership is not split down party lines in a 50/50 split. I'd venture that they would be offending more like 70% of their viewers.

How many libs do you know who are big football fans?

72 We were defeated by early and often voting and corruption.

Moran's son should have been immediately arrested.

Thats the bottom line.

73 But the Dems beat the Republicans over the head with social issues continuously.
But looking at those exit polls for the people who voted they voted on the hurricane and blame Bush.

 

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 07:22 AM (YdQQY)

 

Thing is this: we made the economy our only battlefield and they showed up to defend it. They were dishonest, but they tried.

 

They chose social issues to attack us and we did what? We ran away. Nobody articulated social conservatism in this campaign. If you dont show up for a fight, dont be surprised if you dont win it!

74 As to breaking the unions, I have an anecdotal story.  Was on the way to meet son (USAFA student) at West Point last weekend.  Was filling the tank at last station in PA before entering NJ.  Was next to a tree trimming truck from Alabama.  Man in line behind him asked if he was heading in to help.  He got an earful "No, I'm going home.  Came to help, make some extra cash, was turned away because I'm not union"  Was pretty irate.  The three drivers in cars around him gathered and started to get angry too.  Lots of 'follow me, our street will pay you cash'.  We left, don't know what happened then.  When people are hurting, unions will only hinder help.  That's a great message to start pushing.  Told it to Blue friends in NJ, in front of their blue friends.  They said they heard it was only 'urban legend'.  They weren't happy.  Now FEMA offices closed in NY/NJ due to weather.  Hit this.  Hit it hard. While they are hurting.  Make it personal.

75 14 One caller said it might not be illegal, but itÂ’s offensive to the people in the neighborhood.

FUCK the people in the neighborhood.
The Halfrican in the White Hut is offensive.

76 I still don't get the hurricane thing. Exactly what do people think Obama did? The response has actually been pretty slow. FEMA works for no man.

Posted by: JDTAY at November 08, 2012 07:24 AM (a0nis)

I don't get it either,  but evidently is was more MFM at work making him look good and touring with the Fat Man.

77 Also, what can we do about MSM, I don't see how we stop the disinformation. And the schools, how the hell do we combat that?

78 To anyone who thinks the Republican party should change to try to appeal to more voters: The elections are a means to an end, not the end itself. Our goal is to put policies in place that make America strong and prosperous. Changing those policies kinda ruins the point. Hey, I'm a libertarian, but even I get the Republican party.

79 Here's the DNC clips video where Romney says 'hopefully overturning Roe vs Wade'. The took a snippet from it and played it over and over here in Pa.

(32 seconds long)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqD1fjSp4Sc

80

Despite what his neighbors think, Ray Lewis said flying the flag upside-down is an international symbol of distress and he felt compelled to do it as a form of “peaceful protest” following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

Our local Patriot group leader is doing the same thing.

 

I'm doing the same billy goat.

81 Thanks for the pep talk
I totally agree with you, I can't shake the feeling of dread and hopelessness, I'm haven't turned on the T.V. since Tuesday night, I'm trying to keep myself in a bubble, but it's not working.

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2012 07:24 AM (pwTow)

LOL...you're welcome. Sorry...I just think cold, sober thinking with zero "but look on the bright side!" stuff is how we have to look at this if we ever hope to come back from it. There was way, way too much optimism pre-election, so I plan to err on the side of DOOM! from now on...it's my nature to anyway. :-)

82 43 We have to punish the media, they are not our friends.
-
Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts!

83

I hate conspiracy theories, but I have an American colleague here, does part-time work in our office, former Obama supporter now big-time Republican, but still with close friends in the Democrat community. All she heard in the weeks going into the election was that Dem turnout would be low as the election was already in the bag. Her theory is that well-known plans for fraud is what caused the huge early voting among Republicans--again, her anecdotal evidence--as a means to try to combat the fraud, and what brought turnout down on election day, for both parties. For whatever it's worth. I just found it interesting because in the thousands of words of analysis I have read, I hadn't read that.

 

Posted by: MikeinAmman at November 08, 2012 07:17 AM (NYEIy)

 

Your colleague sounds just like Ann Barnhardt.  She insisted Obama had the election already fixed - either the machine had perfected the fraud, or Romney had agreed to throw the election in return for a favor to be given later.

 

Yesterday I went down to city hall to officially drop my R registration.  Fuck them.  We know Democrats cheat.  We've seen them do it.  We canprove it.  And the only one who fights back is Allen West?  I no longer belong to the GOP.  I want a conservative party that punches Democrats in the mouth every day and twice on Sundays.  And there's no way in hell that Crying Game Boehner is going to punch anything more than his nose into the JEF's ass.

84 Forward. http://preview.tinyurl.com/b2gjvr3

85 Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2012 07:14 AM

I don't think so. My impression of the results -- beyond massive, never-to-be-investigated fraud, which Our Conservative Betters will never, ever talk about -- is that the country's White Guilt has not been, and likely never will be, weakened. Not one bit.

As I see it, too many people went into the voting booth thinking "how can we turn out this black man? He needs another chance after all the harm 'we' did to his people." "What will it say about us that we abandoned a person of color?"

Two factors carried the election: 1) Free Shit; and 2) Osama Obama's skin.

Yes, the MFM's blind eye turned toward Obama's many felonies and treasonous acts helped, and so did Jay-Z, Beyonce and all the other "stars" who pimped relentlessly for their brutha (that applies to Factor 2 above). That fat fuck Christie helped too, with perfect timing.

That long, long train called Affirmative Action, pulling the cars filled with Free Shit, continues to run down the tracks.

86 >>> You have no data to support that and you are full of shit so why don't you produce some data or STFU. >>> The religious people who voted for Romney, not Obama. Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 07:26 AM Vic, I believe you misunderstood my post. I said that hypothesis was in error. I posted, far and wide, the exit-polling analysis made by Allahpundit before Ace did. The problems are much worse than a GOP voting block not turning out for a particular candidate. If it was that easy, it would be a simple matter of choosing a different candidate. Read Geraghty's article. It's a huge problem. Democrats didn't even need independents to win. They didn't even need to break even on them.

87 52  Demographics is destiny, and Ted Kennedy knew exactly what he was doing.

Drowning trapped women in cars ISN'T that hard.

88 With targeting information supplied by Michael Barone? Karl Rove? http://preview.tinyurl.com/apsv4fs (By chance, you'd have to be pretty effin' useless to get it as wrong as those two did this time.)

89 I don't think the Dems won on cheat.  The vote totals in swing States and overall do not bear that out.  Hell they dropped 10 million votes from 2008!



If our people showed up we would have won.  If they cheated, they cheated by rigging the machines to take away millions of Republican votes.

90 36 Vagina carried the day Posted by: Shirley at November 08, 2012 07:10 AM (U4ceb) You'll excuse me 'ronettes, you don't fall into this group but..... ^@*!@#& %&%&! %&!!* #%(& This!

91 I would be willing to bet that NFL viewership is not split down party lines in a 50/50 split. I'd venture that they would be offending more like 70% of their viewers.

How many libs do you know who are big football fans?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 08, 2012 07:27 AM (piMMO)

It would hard for me to boycott the National Felons League again since I do already. :-) (shrug) And they don't care anyway...no one is going to stop watching football games any more than they will skip the new iPad or whatever other "bread and circuses" thing they amuse themselves with. It passes the time while the nation burns.

92 43 Reward your friends and punish your enemies.
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Good thinking.

93 Pay as little tax as you possibly can. The government is foolish with our money. (h/t to Free Republic): http://preview.tinyurl.com/bolqohz

94 I fear the next four years are going to be far worse than we even imagine.

Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2012 07:00 AM (pwTow)

Not worse than I can imagine. And don't assume it'll just be 4 years.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2012 07:20 AM (qEkGZ)

Neither do I.  Which is why a S&W MP15 has found itself to my house. 

95 @36 Women are dead to me. I'm holding out on them. Admittedly, I'm on Lexapro so I can't do anything with them anyway, but still.

96 is there any Dem other than Obama that can deliver his voting coalition in those same numbers? could Andrew Cuomo turn out enough minorities and single women to get him across the finish line? if not, if it's a group of voters that are mostly tied to Obama if he's not on the ticket the GOP's demographics problems may not be as dire as it looks right now.

97 Romney won everyplace with voter ID.

98 Fore more years of Barky Sucks! 

Get ready for it!

99 >>> I don't think the Dems won on cheat. The vote totals in swing States and overall do not bear that out. Hell they dropped 10 million votes from 2008! Not to mention paid off all the big national and smaller state (in every state) polling firms to put out polls which just so happened to average exactly what the real results were, after Obama's magic secret cheating. Get a grip, people. Obama's not Houdini on steroids. Hell, he's not even Nate Silver.

100 On the bright side, Obama can never be president again after this. ( i think)

101 Posted by: JDTAY at November 08, 2012 07:35 AM

You are "withholding your essence" from them?

How do you feel about fluoridation? D'you have access to the "go-code?"

102 WaPo has the story of the day. Black turnout was actually UP in Cleveland and other cites from 2008. Team Obama did an excellent job of portraying GOP efforts to enact Voter ID laws as suppressing the black vote. The early voting skirmishes in Ohio added to the outrage in the black community. They got some email from a retarded GOP Committee official saying they needed to shut down the early voting to keep the black folks from voting. We completely shot ourselves in both feet with this. And this is the killer: "Only 9 percent of black voters said their family’s financial situation is worse than it was four years ago — despite government data showing African Americans have been among those hit hardest by the recession — compared with 32 percent of voters overall." Black President = things are just A-OK in America. No way we were going to overcome that. Totally cost us this election.

103 Is "Samwise" Karl Rove, or merely another weak and flabby hack, a nominal Republican. You're starting to piss me off. Americanism is its own reward. The bottom line of all your posts is that Americanism needs to be dialed-back to make it palatable to-- whom? Non-Americans? Go away. Go. Away.

104 Vic's comment about Republican turnout being down made me recall a call I made to an Ohio R voter couple weeks ago. She said she was not voting for Romney because the R party Was 'extreme' and she and her R friends would not vote again until the R's got 'back to the middle'. Not a Tea Party fan.

105 is there any Dem other than Obama that can deliver his voting coalition in those same numbers?

I'd make book that Mark Warner or Cuomo will be the '16 candidate.  Hillary is tired and done.  And yes, they can deliver as long as they appeal to the same selfish interests.  Furthermore, we'll have 20 million new Hispanic voters. 

106 I don't get it either, but evidently is was more MFM at work making him look good and touring with the Fat Man. Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 07:28 AM (YdQQY) Exactly. TFG did his bomber jacket (fuckin' twink) runway turn, preening photo op then played *hug hug* *kiss kiss* with his new huggy bear. Fawning media fellatio choir declares it the parting of the Red Sea. The media is the enemy.

107 @75 Congratulations on USAFA winning the President's Cup in rifle.
I think all the doolies are out of gang-fight brig now. Tough week.

108 So, I keep hearing about the low Republican turn-out, but I personally know that in my voting precinct (repub) I was voter # 881 and there was a very long line behind me.  In 2008 the total turnout in this precinct was 580.  I hear the same things about heavy voting in other heavily republican areas.   Something about these numbers isn't adding up.  

109 Two factors carried the election: 1) Free Shit; and 2) Osama Obama's skin.

Yes, the MFM's blind eye turned toward Obama's many felonies and treasonous acts helped, and so did Jay-Z, Beyonce and all the other "stars" who pimped relentlessly for their brutha (that applies to Factor 2 above). That fat fuck Christie helped too, with perfect timing.

That long, long train called Affirmative Action, pulling the cars filled with Free Shit, continues to run down the tracks.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 08, 2012 07:30 AM (yKUrR)

Well, of course those 2 things had something to do with it, but you can't hope to counteract those - and all the other factors involved - without a strong candidate. Also would who would confront those things head on instead of running from them and pretty much anything else controversial toward the end there. I know that was the game plan so as not to "scare off" independents, but the independents just didn't much care either way and showed it on election day. You have to offer a real choice to get people to switch from the status quo. We didn't, not really, not enough of one.

110 Thorvald, you need people who don't blow smoke and sunshine up your asses. Which, left to your own devices, appears to be the order of the day here.

111 Romney won everyplace with voter ID.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 08, 2012 07:35 AM (3Y7RV)

That's because only RED States have voter ID.

112 Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now? Haven't we suffered enough?

113 She said she was not voting for Romney because the R party Was 'extreme' and she and her R friends would not vote again until the R's got 'back to the middle'. Not a Tea Party fan. *sigh* Fix things, but do it magically. Stupid people.

114 Was 'extreme' and she and her R friends would not vote again until the R's got 'back to the middle'. Not a Tea Party fan.

Posted by: Helen at November 08, 2012 07:38 AM (93bH6)

Again, the MFM at work.

115 That's because only RED States have voter ID. Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 07:41 AM (YdQQY) True, But I still think you are looking at 3 to 5% fraud. Of course if commies are checking the ID's it wouldn't matter.

116 Just saw on the news that even Ronnie Reagan wouldn't have won this election. Let that sink in. My hope for a Reagan type figure for our generation is hanging by a thread.

117

I think the notion that the apocalypse is at hand is self-defeating.

 

Yes, things will continue to get "worse", from the perspective of a conservative political viewpoint.  At some point, we really will hit the wall. My guess is that at some point in the future, a lot of countries will start using the Yuan - Reminbi (chinese currency) as the world's reserve currency.  The dollar will be more and more suspect.

When that day comes, then things really will go in the shitter.  It may not come until after Obama leaves office, but the day will come.

 

Will Obama be blamed?  Who knows, because of the ballwashers in the Media who think he walks on water?

I would like to think that there is still time to fix what is broken fiscally and monetarily, but that is not going to happen, realistically.  And that will be the absolute hardest part, watching the slow disintegration of our economic present and future under the watchful eyes of the incompetents now in office.  The economic disintegration will be accompanied by the disintegration of any pretense of Constitutional law and social order.

It will be like living in a neighborhood that is going bad, and unable to get out or change anything.  Except it will be the whole country. Somehow we will have to endure.

 

 

The Obama dream is to turn the whole country into Detroit or Chicago.

I frankly have no more faith in elections, although I will continue to vote, because despair is a sin.  But I mourn for the future that my children will have, or the future they won't have, frankly.

118 #97 I really don't think so, but I also don't think we should be sanguine about that. We have three straight elections now where Democrats have done a staggering job of turning out blacks in the cities and in the southern Black Belt towns. John Kerry almost won in 2004 because of it. And we have to anticipate that Dems will have either another minority or a woman on their national ticket, probably from now on. If we don't, we will lose. I hate the identity politics as much as anyone, but it works. At this point we have to look at what works, not what we wish would work.

119 White Horse Samwise? B.S.! You've just exposed yourself as a liberal, a proselytizing poophead. Go. Away.

120 That's because only RED States have voter ID.

Pennsylvania will have it next election. It was *supposed* to be in place
for this election til a judge shot it down.

I wish Romney hadn't wasted a dime in Pa and gone after Ohio instead.

121

The following actions from Weeping Boner and the rest of the shrinking violets in Congress would inspire some confidence in me:

 

1. Allow the Bush tax cuts to expire. All of them. The Democrats have blamed everything bad that has happened over the last ten years on the Bush tax cuts. OK, you wanted them gone, they're gone.

 

2. Announce that you are opposed to the creation of any new taxes and you will not approve any new taxes in the next Congress.

 

3. The President and Democrats have agreed that the tax code needs to be revised. Declare that you are going to go through the tax code and eliminate all special interest tax credits, deductions, and kickbacks. Someone here mentioned the Big Hollywood tax credits, make that your signature piece. Get rid of the electric car/renewable energy stuff. The only credits and deductions that will remain are those that apply to individuals and businesses in general. This will be passed by the House and sent to the Senate for action.

 

4. State the amount that the above measures are expected to generate, then state the remaining shortfall in the deficit. For example, the above measures would be expected to generate $150 billion in new revenue, remind everyone that this still leaves a shortfall of $850 billion in spending cuts to be resolved.

 

5. There will be no negotiation on the debt ceiling. None. Zero, zip, nada.

 

6. Allow sequestration to kick in.

 

7. The House will not act on any new legislation until a budget with at least $400 billion in immediate and real spending cuts is approved and signed by the President. This means actual cuts, not mythical cuts that only exist on paper. This also means immediate cuts, not ones that are calculated over 10 years.

122 56 The GOP waged a pretty libertarian campaign,completely dropping social issues and only advocating economic liberty and it didnt work.
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It generally doesn't. Pure economics isn't enough. Specific, targeted appeals are more effective, even if they are based on lies like "the war on women".

And every election cycle, as long as the GOP doesn't overturn the demographic Kevorkian machine that is genociding White America, this is going to be a point or two harder.

123 Vic's comment about Republican turnout being down made me recall a call I made to an Ohio R voter couple weeks ago. She said she was not voting for Romney because the R party
Was 'extreme' and she and her R friends would not vote again until the R's got 'back to the middle'. Not a Tea Party fan.

Posted by: Helen at November 08, 2012 07:38 AM (93bH6)

I would respectfully submit that if your friend thinks Mitt was "extreme" then she's not an R and never has been. Unless we're talking alternate universes here.

124 Forgive me for being part of feeding a tr0ll on the last thread. I should have known, "he" was one. The raped (friend, multiple times?) who hanged "herself" was a nice touch though.

125

53 Reps Send Letter to Obama: What Did You Know About Benghazi?

I think this goes nowhere, TFG will just say it's sour grapes, republicans lost the election so they are grasping at straws, and the media will play along.

126 Vic's comment about Republican turnout being down made me recall a call I made to an Ohio R voter couple weeks ago. She said she was not voting for Romney because the R party Was 'extreme' and she and her R friends would not vote again until the R's got 'back to the middle'. Not a Tea Party fan. Posted by: Helen at November 08, 2012 07:38 AM (93bH6) Did you tell that woman in Ohio that those words do not mean what she thinks they mean?

127 Puerto Rico backs U.S. Statehood - that's a disaster.

128 I have renewed my resolve never to take race into account in my personal life. I'm a color-blind Republican. My Spanish is very good, and moreover, speaking Spanish is not a reliable indicator of race. That said, I'm too polite to ignore someone who wants to get all up in my face with his or her race. I'll take that into account. I'm no fool. I was raised right, and I know that your rights stop at the end of my nose, bitch.

129 103 -

Yep.  The old maxim: you can't reason people out of a decision they didn't get into by reason in the first place.

39%

That's Obama's take of white votes in this election.  He won because minorities (blacks, hispanics, AND asians!!) went for him in droves. 

130 You are a real asshole, Baldy.

131 Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now?

I've tried ignoring it, hoping it will go away, but it persists. Seems to be some college kid on crystal meth who only sleeps for about 10 minutes a day.

132 We lost because Obama sufficiently scared the voting population into thinking Romney was a warmonger and wanted to overthrow Roe v. Wade... and that Romney didn't respect women's issues.

We also lost because Obama has brown people in his back pocket... and Hispanics, especially, breed like rabbits and introduced 22% more eligible voters than in 2008.  And that population increase will not subside anytime soon.  This was our last chance to take back the country, folks.  As J. J. Sefton mentioned above, the kids are coming out brainwashed out of our schools.  Add that to the demographics I mentioned above, and it is all over.

133

Part of the budget deal that Obama will work out with Boehner and the Republican "leadership" of the House will be to drop further investigations into what happened in Libya and elsewhere.

 

We can smudge the crown of our President's next term.

134 Day 2 of European Socialism and the decline of America. Morning all

135 133 Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now? It would be interesting if Admin. finds the posts come from the same set of IP addresses.

136 You have to offer a real choice to get people to switch from the status quo. We didn't, not really, not enough of one.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2012 07:41 AM

We could discuss this all day, but I'm nearing the upper limit for thinking about politics today and (again) losing my temper, though obviously not at you.

My belief is that we offered a "real choice" but, guided by those Wise in the Ways of Politics, watered it down to keep the squishes happy. I would have preferred that we tell the millions of flatliners out there the truth: that that the credit card is maxed out and the bill is due, that our current White House occupant has turned the nation into a pitiful Third World shithole and has put us all in serious danger on a number of fronts.

That's not what Romney said, of course, and I suppose he really couldn't. Not to the spoon-fed entitlement babies, and not to the Poppin' Freshes on "our" side.

In four years, reality may be all too apparent. Of course it might be too late by then to adopt reality as a national policy.

137 If we don't, we will lose.

The problem is that if we do, they still can't promise as much free stuff, so they won't be selected.  As I said earlier, if you have a governing political philosophy, and the other guys have tribalism and looting, you'll lose. 

I don't have an answer to this problem.

138 Fox reporting Boeing hiring 11,000 in management. Yesterday Boeing announced 30,000 layoffs...in management. Hmm.

Look out, SC. Tens of thousands of pissed-off Californians headed your way.

139 Thats bull. The GOP waged a pretty libertarian campaign,completely dropping social issues and only advocating economic liberty and it didnt work. Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 08, 2012 07:18 AM (Rn7r2) But Romney was perceived as a "force me to go to church" "anti-wimmins" candidate and he didn't dispel that ridiculous notion. It was/is prevalent among the retarded 22-28/30 college grads. They are that stupid.

140 @108 Thanks!  Yeah, the FS/FS brouh-ha-ha was rough for some parents.  My spouse is a Zoomie, so we were aware of what was up.  There was some serious wailing from the helicopter parents though.

141 23 I'm never voting for the Fat Man. I don't blame him for Romney's loss as much as I don't like him. He comes across as a jerk now as opposed to how he used to come across as tough.

Besides, I can only envision a man like that getting in the Oval Office chair and getting stuck like Winnie the Pooh got stuck in Rabbit's Hole. In the worst way.

Posted by: lulu at November 08, 2012 07:03 AM (W5c4e)

You know I hate to give Bloomberg credit for anything considering he endorsed the TFG after writing editorials about the sucky economy and declaring he wouldn't endorse either candidate but Bloomy did tell TFG thanks but no thanks you don't need to visit.

142 Someone had a great blog post last night, might have been Ben Domenech, I'm not sure. Talked about how the GOP simply HAS to expand the map in the next election and play in more states. What Obama did this year was basically campaign in two counties each in 9 states and drive the shit out of turnout in those handful of places. This is inexpensive and allowed the campaign to use most of its money on TV and radio. He knew Romney was not going to seriously challenge him anywhere else. He went to Cuyahoga and Hamilton Counties in Ohio; Fairfax and Henrico in Virginia, Miami-Dade in Florida, Milwaukee, and a couple of places in Iowa. And he did it over. And over. And over. And over. Also, Obama hit almost nothing but college campuses after the first of October. I was among those pooh-poohing this as a lame attempt to gin up the crowds for TV. But it was actually very smart. College kids respond to personal appeals and big movements. A 19-year-old is impressionable, and if the President comes to her campus not once, but two or three times, she is going to feel flattered and almost obligated to vote for him. This is how Obama won. He drove turnout in a handful of counties in 9 states, and drove the college vote.

143 133 Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now? I've tried ignoring it, hoping it will go away, but it persists. Seems to be some college kid on crystal meth who only sleeps for about 10 minutes a day. Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 08, 2012 07:47 AM (feFL6) God help me, but this simpering Hot Air pussy makes me long for the days when all we had to scroll through was Cat Piss and her unlimited non sequiturs.

144 Obama has already let his plan slip. Sequestration will go forward and the bush tax cuts will be allowed to expire. That's that.

145 After Obama win, U.S. backs new U.N. arms treaty talks And So it begins

146 I gotta say this just to have a chance to type it out. I am from NJ, and when christy was elected, there was another repub candidate that was a real conservative. The other guy lost and for that i fucking hated christy. i thought he was just another striving prosecutor that thinks he is god's gift and would weasel his way into power any way he could.

I really hate prosecutor-politicians, and think that there is something about the job that makes them abandon their morals and principals and makes them think they can bullshit anyone since everyone else is a two bit felon found drunk with a baggie of powder in their shorts and happy to take a plea and too stupid to know the system. These guys live to work the system.

Anyway, christy started governing and i liked it when he talked tough to the teachers union, and i liked his NJ attitude, but you could see he was more full of himself than he was smart, and he didn't really carry the conservative torch all that high. it was just another lever he could use to work the system.

I'm not in NJ anymore, but when i was there was a lot of press about him acting like another spoiled politician and not a lot about him defending intelligent, small government principals. More and more he seemed like he was just another prosecutor acting tough in court like it's a big show and we are the rubes.

I never got the pundits that thought he would be a good presidential candidate. (someone at NRO i think, maybe some of the fox crowd.) the guy talks like an asshole, and as a jersyite i know that that does not travel well.

NJ is a corrupt cesspool, and  christy is better than we could hope for, but personally, i hope the guy trips walking down the state house steps and just keeps rolling until he hits the Delaware. maybe in a couple years he will be found covered in seagull shit in the mid atlantic, cursing at the birds and explaining how lucky they are to have him to lecture them on his principals of navigation.

147 I don't feel the need for recriminations. We ran a good candidate against a miserable failure, and still lost. The uncertainty is gone, we're boned for the next decade, so now I can plan accordingly.

148
113 Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now? Haven't we suffered enough?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 08, 2012 07:42 AM (JDIKC)

Seriously, not only do we get an ultra persistent troll, but we get the gayest of the gay hobbits?

Why God? What did we do?

Oh, the boobehs? Sorry bout that. But You made them so......awesome.

149 Obama has already let his plan slip. Sequestration will go forward and the bush tax cuts will be allowed to expire. That's that. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 08, 2012 07:52 AM (3Y7RV) Good Bye Military

150 so we've got this bang up track record running moderate nominees but all our elite thinkers can do is remind us how bad Goldwater lost. Maybe next time we can run someone who believes in and can really articulate conservatism.

151 Solution? 1) Overhaul the grammar & high schools: do not permit liberal indoctrination of our children. Fight it at every step. 2) Expose and destroy the msm/ take back the airwaves. 3) Do not send your kid to a liberal university. See point #1 4) Support conservative artists at every level and in every medium: tv; film; music; print;visual And when an artist pisses you off, let them know you are no longer financially supporting them ( See Bey & Superbowl issue) Screw all this talk about who voted what. We are knee-deep in a CULTURAL WAR and we should be fighting as if our very survival depends on it because it DOES.

152 Good Bye Military Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2012 07:53 AM (79ueO) And hello UN blue helmets. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

153 @146 Good. Let the people live with their choice.

154 I am thinking of becoming a survilalist

155 1. Allow the Bush tax cuts to expire. All of them. The Democrats have blamed everything bad that has happened over the last ten years on the Bush tax cuts. OK, you wanted them gone, they're gone.

They're gone and the economy tanks. 'Disposable' income evaporates for 75% of the middle class. Housing market collapses. Even 'official' unemployment rises to 12.5%. Consumer spending disappears.

Be careful what you ask for.

156
On the bright side, Obama can never be president again after this.
Posted by: spypeach






"Now may I introduce my first nominee to The United States Supreme Court, former President Barack Obama."

President Andrew Cuomo, May 1, 2017

157 That's not what Romney said, of course, and I suppose he really couldn't. Not to the spoon-fed entitlement babies, and not to the Poppin' Freshes on "our" side.

In four years, reality may be all too apparent. Of course it might be too late by then to adopt reality as a national policy.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 08, 2012 07:50 AM (yKUrR)

I gotcha. I don't think we're really disagreeing; not much at least. And yes, enough politics for one day. There is plenty of time for rehashing and re-rehasing, and we can all rest assured that the Beltway GOP folks will take all the wrong lessons from this so we can lose a different way next time around.

158 Romney ran a good campaign, and given our criminal and treasonous president, it should've been enough to toss that skinny bastard out.  But I guess there's no disputing how ignorant the masses are.  Romney was a nice guy and ran a good campaign, but he was always pretty "thin" on articulating conservatism.  And that is, after all, the crux of us vs. them.  The majority of Americans are completely brainwashed.  There is simply no way to really overcome this anymore.  The leftists are too entrenched in all the places that matter.  We cannot teach conservatism to Americans through sound bites and 30 second YouTube ads.  There's really no avenue anymore where people can honestly and objectively learn the differences.  It won't be taught in our schools.  It won't be articulated by our candidates of today like Reagan's "A Time for Choosing."  There really is nowhere the collective of the American electorate can honestly learn about conservatism.  So, it will remain being trashed, mocked, ridiculed and ostracized as a form of government.  Until that changes, we're going down.  I'm sure we'll skid along the ocean floor for a while, but our great experiment is pretty much over. 

I've adopted the "f*ck it" attitude now.  Let it burn.  I now wish for succession. 

159 at least they can come home and stop getting shot at by stone age barbarians. Israel is fucked though

160 Posted by: Infidel at November 08, 2012 07:29 AM (Vk6ZI)


Good on you!  My own, small protest here in Ohio...

161

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2012 07:48 AM (UTq/I)

 

 

 

 

 

12 million instant dem voters. Just add amnesty! Coming soon to a country near you.

162 I'll take "Junta" for $200, Alex.

163 Being an asshole: >>> Forgive me for being part of feeding a tr0ll on the last thread. I should have known, "he" was one. The raped (friend, multiple times?) who hanged "herself" was a nice touch though. Posted by: Baldy at November 08, 2012 07:45 AM Not being an asshole: http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=334763#c19643030 I don't think you're a decent enough person to take a good look in the mirror, Baldy. So double down on evil.

164

Nevergiveup @ 147

 

Gun control is just one Supreme Court decision away from happening.  When Scalia and Kennedy die or retire in the next few years, we get a permanent Leftist majority on the Court, and we get a Living Constititution.  Or perhaps no Constitution would  be a better way of explaining it.

Forward!  (thud)

165 @157 It's the only way people will learn. Bring it on.

166 156 I am thinking of becoming a survilalist

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2012 07:54 AM (79ueO)

At the very least, make sure you have a 'git' bag handy.

167

But Romney was perceived as a "force me to go to church" "anti-wimmins" candidate and he didn't dispel that ridiculous notion. It was/is prevalent among the retarded 22-28/30 college grads.

They are that stupid.

 

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 08, 2012 07:50 AM (e0R1n)

 

Yeah and just like Dukakis, Willard stood there, took the beating and tried to look "competent". Social conservatism is a friggin asset if you play the values- and religion- card right, but I guess Willard hesitated because he expected that that would provoke anti-mormon sentiment. But like I said: dont be surprised if you dont win fights that you dont show up for. 

168 Also, a nice shout out to Ann Coulter and the other assorted "reasonable" conservatives in the media who pimped Christie and excoriated primary voters who chose someone other than Romney. You really know your stuff, Ann.

169 If stupid fucking horse's asses didn't have an irresistible urge to respond to trolls, the trolls would get bored and leave. But NO, you have to defend your ideas with a pest who goads you into even more frivolous banter and then you bitch that they hang around.

170 144 You make fair points, but I think it is unreasonable to expect that ANY GOP candidate will ever win Cuyahoga or Miami-Dade counties. I just don't think it will ever happen again. Ever. Quite frankly, I don't think Jack Kennedy could have beaten Obama. Not in the primaries. Not in the general. The demographics of the electorate has shifted too much.

171 They're gone and the economy tanks. 'Disposable' income evaporates for 75% of the middle class. Housing market collapses. Even 'official' unemployment rises to 12.5%. Consumer spending disappears. Be careful what you ask for. Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 08, 2012 07:54 AM (feFL6) Good. Let. It. Burn.

172 Baldy, hobbit boy is the old troll Random, returned to agitate for SSM and gay rights, again.

173 I laughed at what someone said on another blog: Obama inherited the bad economy from Obama! let's see how often he blames himself this next four years!

174 samwise fuck off....

175 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

176 >>> I've adopted the "f*ck it" attitude now. Let it burn. I now wish for succession. I wouldn't go that far, but I made a "joke" about a state should secede and send in a special ops team to rescue the political prisoner (who just got sentenced to a year in jail by the way) who produced The Innocence of Muslims.

177 Posted by: Lady in Black - SMOD, where are you? at November 08, 2012 07:55 AM

Unfortunately, getting the principles you're talking about across to the voting masses requires that they have already been taught to THINK and have mastered the once-simple ability to maintain an attention span measured in more than milliseconds.

Them days is over.

Ooooh! Squirrel!

178 Can't wait to see Barack Obama spend the next four years explaining away his failures by blaming his predecessor, B. Hussain Obama.

179 Funny thing is, "he" was named Random and was gay and upset by Rick Perry. Now, "he" had  girlfriend who hanged herself because she had been raped multiple times, and was very concerned everyone was too optimistic. Oh he was also  Mormon, but had become an atheist. Devastated by Mitt's loss, he turned to the noted producer of "Can't Stop the Music" to stop smoking.

180 Fuck

http://reut.rs/U9Dxdv

181

I wonder when the terrorist start blowing up shit in our country just for fun.

 

182

They're gone and the economy tanks. 'Disposable' income evaporates for 75% of the middle class. Housing market collapses. Even 'official' unemployment rises to 12.5%. Consumer spending disappears.

 

Be careful what you ask for.

 

The Democrats are the ones asking for it, not me. They've blamed the Bush tax cuts for everything, the financial crisis, the housing meltdown, Hurricane Katrina, it's all because of the Bush tax cuts. OK then, let's try it their way.

183 Sequestration. Now. There's never going to be a comfortable way to reduce Fed spending.

184 119 "And we have to anticipate that Dems will have either another minority or a woman on their national ticket, probably from now on. If we don't, we will lose. I hate the identity politics as much as anyone, but it works. At this point we have to look at what works, not what we wish would work."
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It works for the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party is the non-White Party and the Anti-White Party.

If it was working for the Republican Party, which like it or not is the White Party, Mia Love and Alan West would have won.

I agree identity politics is what wins, but it's got to be your own identity. Otherwise it doesn't have the same effect.

185 I am thinking of becoming a survilalist
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 08, 2012 07:54 AM (79ueO)

At the very least, make sure you have a 'git' bag handy.
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One of them spellin dictionaries wouldn't hurt a thing either.

186 175 Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 08, 2012 07:58 AM (VrVBw)- *********  Thank you, I did remember reading that.

187 Which, left to your own devices, appears to be the order of the day here. Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 08, 2012 07:41 AM (SKX2R) I remember being at another blog during the first TFG election and a few people sounding like you showed up. Who, IMO, were trying to "change" the message on the blog. I posted before that I don't know where you came from and this is not my blog but I am sick of your crap already. Oh, that other blog I was referring to "totally flipped to TFG blog"

188 Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now? Haven't we suffered enough?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 08, 2012 07:42 AM (JDIKC)

 

 

---- Apparently not

189 #162 You know, I wonder what could have happened if Mitt Romney had not just gone home to wherever after the 2008 election to lick his wounds, and instead had gone on a Reagan-style speaking tour to educate the public about conservative principles. I don't think that was in him, but I think that may be the only thing that can happen that will change the electorate. We need someone who is out of office who is willing and able to spend two or three years on the rubber-chicken circuit, maybe get a big corporation to sponsor him like GE did with Reagan. It's time to think outside the box. I heard a snip yesterday of Norm Ornstein on NPR screaming about the Koch Brothers out there trying to "Buy off" the states. According to him, they have bought the legislature and the Supreme Court in Kansas, and are targeting Arkansas next. Maybe this is the way to go.

190 I wonder when the terrorist start blowing up shit in our country just for fun.
Posted by: spypeach at November 08, 2012 08:01 AM

They started Tuesday.

191 149 I don't feel the need for recriminations. We ran a good candidate against a miserable failure, and still lost. The uncertainty is gone, we're boned for the next decade, so now I can plan accordingly. Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 08, 2012 07:52 AM (QupBk) Neither do I. ...but, better plan for more than one decade. This crap is going to take a loooong time to fix. Generations long.

192 A lot of you people are evil. Like actually evil. Will no one stand up for basic decency and goodness? Mocking me because I told a true story about a friend who was raped and hung herself (in a conversation about suicide that I didn't begin) recently is not cool. She's very much dead, and that you all tell me to fuck off, and don't have a word for him, is just ... not surprising anymore. I look for goodness in the world (and my friend probably did too), but where is it to be found? You don't think erring on the side of caution is in order and maybe just not doubling on something that tragic is a good policy? I don't know if you've realized this, but we do live in a world where people get raped and then kill themselves. But apparently enlightened good Christians feel this is an attacking point.

193

Vic's comment about Republican turnout being down made me recall a call I made to an Ohio R voter couple weeks ago. She said she was not voting for Romney because the R party
Was 'extreme' and she and her R friends would not vote again until the R's got 'back to the middle'. Not a Tea Party fan.

 

OK, she doesn't like the Tea Party.  Why, Helen?  Was it Mediscare?  And what does she consider 'extreme' and 'middle?'  Ten to one she couldn't tell you, or if she did, it would be all regurgitated MFM crap.  Did you ask her?

194 If the GOP wants a real libertarian message they need to drop the drug war(or at least marajuana) and also get rid of all those corporate subsidies including energy, banks and agriculture. But yeah, that would take guts, so no.

195 But Romney was perceived as a "force me to go to church" "anti-wimmins" candidate and he didn't dispel that ridiculous notion. It was/is prevalent among the retarded 22-28/30 college grads.

They are that stupid.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 08, 2012 07:50 AM (e0R1n)

This. My husband is a college professor (science). Nothing else mattered but their vaginas.

I have an older lefty female friend this is the discussion I witnessed: The lefty: Mitt the Twit will be all up in my female business. Conservative Male: You must be very lucky to have escaped the economic hardship of the last four years. Most haven't. Lefty: AS A WOMAN I cannot support Mitt Romney.

As a woman I tried to bring reason to the discussion but it was pointless. Your conservative arguments are null and void if you are man. You got nothing do you understand. Mitt's a man. Vagina trumps all. Be prepared to be pussy whipped.

196 If we're so evil Mr. Gay Hobbit, why are you constantly posting here? Go the fuck away and leave us to our evilness.

197 Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now? Haven't we suffered enough?Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 08, 2012 07:42 AM

In the words of Ronald Reagan (and Al Jolson): "You ain't seen nothin' yet!"

198 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 08, 2012 08:03 AM (SKX2R) Oh, you aint seen evil, but it's comin.

199 We also have to face the fact that George W. Bush is now our generation's Herbert Hoover, and Democrats are going to successfully run against him for years, and years, and years. The MFM have done a magnificent job on this. A majority of voters thought Bush was more responsible for the shitty economy than Obama. And they will do so in 2016, hide and watch. Obama will get NO blame if things don't get better.

200

Are we going to be saddled with this Samwise twat permanently, now? Haven't we suffered enough?

 

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 08, 2012 07:42 AM (JDIKC)

 

Scroll wheels.  How do they fuckin' work?

201

The "terrorists" have learned not to antagonize the sleepy Americans with explody things.

 

They are inside now, changing things in the name of diversity and tolerance.  And there are plenty of other Americans that want to help.  All in the name of "coexistence".

It reminds me of the slogan when I was a kid: "Better Red than Dead"

 

Never underestimate the moral and physical cowardice of the average person, especially if they are in government.  It selects for squishy people.

202 Secular Progressives have an irresistible urge to discount real charity. Anyone can be "good" with a gun to his head. That is the long-term trend we're looking at: they will force you to be "good" like them. Carbon tax. 1-child policy. Gay "marriage". Affirmative action. Our great nation, the world's last best hope, will resemble an N.F.L. where half the players are wimmins, and the coaching staff is racially gerrymandered, exciting to watch, but mainly for the catfights.

203 I had asked last night what would happen if we just did nothing and let sequestration happen. Really, what would be the difference? let him own the collapse now ... why is Boehner offering a deal already?

204 Posted by: comatus at November 08, 2012 08:02 AM (qaVK+)


I'm sure you were being funny, but we call them git bags...as in, all the shit you need before you git out the door!  Mine is (and has been) prepared.  Besides -- 'get' bags just sound...stupid.

205 186 Sequestration. Now. Do it, and place the blame for the consequences squarely with President Mutherfucker, where they belong.

206 I heard a snip yesterday of Norm Ornstein on NPR screaming about the Koch Brothers out there trying to "Buy off" the states. According to him, they have bought the legislature and the Supreme Court in Kansas, and are targeting Arkansas next. Maybe this is the way to go.

Posted by: rockmom at November 08, 2012 08:02 AM (qe2/V)

Yes. Have them buy a big media outlet instead of giving money to the MSM to pay for advertising on the MSM. So there'd be at least one real news outlet (FNC sure as hell isn't anymore).

207 Samfoolish, I don't know what the conversation was, and I don't care enough to look.  What I do know is that you're basically a troll and I have no interest in anything you have to say.  Ever.

So, as Phoenix Girl so eloquently put it: Fuck off.

208 Me, not gonna bother with recriminations against anybody...on OUR side. Why bother? My contempt...that's really the prefect word...is for the fools and children who chose to vote for Santa Claus, in hopes of it always and forever being Christmas 'morn.

Fuck 'em. They deserve to reap what they've sown, in full.

Me, I'm looking at relocation options...a nice rural part of a nice solid red state.

209 Actually, it did start the suicide discussion on the thread about self improvement. ***********
18 IF I continue with life, I vow to give up politics.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 09:13 PM (SKX2R)

210 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 08, 2012 08:03 AM (SKX2R)


Allow me to jump in and soothe you...F off.  Feel better now?

211 Scroll wheels. How do they fuckin' work?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 08, 2012 08:05 AM (zF6Iw)

This is the AoS. We don't even have proper text formatting. The site is powered by hamsters. You think we have scroll wheels and know how to use them???

Shit, I bet most of the commenters' mice still have the ball on the bottom of the mouse.

212 Me, I'm looking at relocation options...a nice rural part of a nice solid red state. Posted by: Stu-22 at November 08, 2012 08:06 AM (k4bdL) OOOOOOOAKLAHOMA, were the winds come sweepin down the plains.

213 Mocking me because I told a true story about a friend who was raped and hung herself (in a conversation about suicide that I didn't begin) recently is not cool.

She's very much dead, and that you all tell me to fuck off, and don't have a word for him, is just ... not surprising anymore.

You can't even keep the gender consistent troll. Fuck off and take your bs stories somewhere else.

214 NewsDump is up

215 I think I'm going to cut back on my site time (big loss, I know) but I'm tired of scrolling past the blatant site pests like random. Since Ace doesn't see fit to give me the hammer, it's way too frustrating to read.

216

Obama wants sequestration to happen. Thats not some catastrophe he'd actually like to avoid. Read the interview with the Iowa paper he wanted to keep off the record. When they ask him about the deficit he mentions the sequestration as part of his plan to deal with the it.

217 Ace, you said this: Sam, I don't know you, but personally, I think it's a godawful idea to commit suicide. Unless you are already looking at a painful incurable disease with a sure end, it's crazy. Whether you believe in god or not, the universe around you is awesome and you commit a horrible mistake by not seeing as much of it and experiencing as much of it as you can. If you don't believe in god, which I assume you don't (otherwise you wouldn't be talking about suicide as merely an ethical question), then at death you will simply cease to exist. You will experience nothing more. In the entire eternity of the universe, you have already missed out almost all of it. You didn't exist for 14 billion years. You will not exist for the trillion years to come after. This is it. These precious few years which clever proteins have managed to gift you. This is all, then comes the Nothingness. Forever. This is it. I am not a doctor but your emotional level is almost certainly pitched too low. Your brain chemistry runs to the deeply depressed. It is sad that depression not only saps a life of color and joy but also precludes the person suffering it from seeking the simple cure for it. Depression can be cured. Before you go committing suicide, why don't you at least see if a simple biochemical adjustment will help you? Posted by: ace at November 08, 2012 12:15 AM And it was a decent, wonderful thing to say. There are a lot of freakin' terrible people in this world and a lot of them are on your blog. I mean no offense to you by that, but it's just true. The world is not rosy like you think it is.

218 Yeah and just like Dukakis, Willard stood there, took the beating and tried to look "competent". Social conservatism is a friggin asset if you play the values- and religion- card right, but I guess Willard hesitated because he expected that that would provokeanti-mormon sentiment. But like I said: dont be surprised if you dont win fights that you dont show up for. Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 08, 2012 07:57 AM (Rn7r2) You're probably right, there. Plus, for some reason, certain Christian types have a problem with Mormons. I don't understand it. Every Mormon I have ever known has been/are the most excruciatingly happy and decent people I have ever been around.

219
219 I think I'm going to cut back on my site time (big loss, I know) but I'm tired of scrolling past the blatant site pests like random. Since Ace doesn't see fit to give me the hammer, it's way too frustrating to read.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 08, 2012 08:09 AM (QupBk)

Boooooooooooooo. Where else are you going to get your Kate Upton/Christina Hendricks fix?

220

If the GOP wants a real libertarian message they need to drop the drug war(or at least marajuana) and also get rid of all those corporate subsidies including energy, banks and agriculture.

 

Personally I don't have any problem with decriminalizing MJ but it must be said that this isn't some magic bullet that's going to fix all economic problems. It's a niche issue with the only salutary impact being the ability to divert law enforcement/criminal justice resources into other areas.

221 Shit, I bet most of the commenters' mice still have the ball on the bottom of the mouse.

They still make those?

Me, I'm looking at relocation options...a nice rural part of a nice solid red state.

OK is good.  TX is better.

222 One last question before I head out - if large amounts of people turn off the television while Beyonce is singing during the NFL do the stations know this? I mean would they be able to tell if people protested her this way? I don't know how they monitor cable/sat boxes. That "mitches" comment was so classy and Michelle-like.

223 If the GOP wants a real libertarian message they need to drop the drug war(or at least marajuana) and also get rid of all those corporate subsidies including energy, banks and agriculture.

But yeah, that would take guts, so no.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at November 08, 2012 08:04 AM (fCMdQ)

I forget where I read it...it was way before the election though...that Mitt had a chance for a great moment to break the MSM stereotype of what the GOP is about if he'd come out for breaking up the Too Big To Succeed banks...make them go back to being real banks, so they wouldn't threaten the entire system if one went down and wouldn't have to be bailed out again with taxpayer money. Sort of his Nixon goes to China or Clinton's Sista Souljah moment. Hell, he might have even gotten some OWS slugs out to vote for him if he'd done that. But this campaign was never really about big and bold ideas or strategies...I had hopes that was changing right after the Ryan pick for VP, but it surely didn't last. He disappeared toward the end there almost as completely as Palin did in 2008.

224 And if anyone will bother noting, my first comment on this thread was this: Good morning. Remember. The purpose of politics is to engage in family and personal life better. Think of the political challenges our ancestors faced. Ours may be big and we'll never fix them all. But are they really so much bigger? Go back far enough along your family lines, and I don't think you'll find it so. Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 08, 2012 06:54 AM Then I engaged in some political debate -- very much reality-based political debate -- with perhaps some acerbity, but by no means anything like the hatred and outright evil I received. Just wow. Wow people. This is the world you think is so great it's an error to leave? Forget the world -- many of you are evil right here.

225
226 Shit, I bet most of the commenters' mice still have the ball on the bottom of the mouse.

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They still make those?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 08, 2012 08:11 AM (/eBe

*shrugs*

If Ace can use site software from 1989, why can't we use mice from then?

226 If minorities gave a flying shit about social issues they would never have voted for Obama. From what I see minorities only give a shit about free shit and minorities.

We can never out Democrat the Democrats.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 07:12 AM (YdQQY)

I don't think that is exactly true in a way. I recall hearing a minority man the street interviews in '08. According the interviewees Obama is pro-life and anti-gay marriage. They project their positions on him without finding out the truth. I have no idea how you fix that.

227 Actually, Alabama is not a bad location for relocating. Stay out of the middle of the state, unless you are looking for rural farm property, but both the north and the southern ends of the state are conservative sane areas. The Southern end is warm but flat, while the Northern part has actual seasons and hills.

228

I also heard that Romney lost Asians badly. But the sterotype of Asians is hardworking and self-made success. This seems a natural fit for being conservative. Plus asian chicks are HOT.

This makes me think that the generic smear Conservatives=racists is at work. This slander needs to be defeated at all costs. I fear that the black vote is lost for a generation. This Hispanic vote cannot be allowed to slip away and the asian vote should be ours. That's where we must make our inroads.

If we can do well with those groups, that can help to dispell the party-or-white-people label and open the door to blacks as well.

 

229 Thanks for the Superbowl halftime show info. I will definately pass this on and act on it. When my son plays teams from the city, you should see the vulgar conduct and apparel of the opposing teams. On one, the moms wore matching shirts that read "Cum hard or don't cum at all", and another "Hit Squad". One boy on our team got a compound tibia fibula fracture. 10 broken bones on 7 boys, including my son. I reject the double standard.

230 Oops, all cleaned up from the party. Wah

231 You're probably right, there. Plus, for some reason, certain Christian types have a problem with Mormons. I don't understand it. Every Mormon I have ever known has been/are the most excruciatingly happy and decent people I have ever been around.

 

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 08, 2012 08:10 AM (e0R1n)

 

I actually dont think that that is a widespread phenomenon. I think Willard was afraid of his own shadow on this matter.

232 Despite what conservatives keep chanting, the left's race card is not maxed out, and the left's race card will never be maxed out.

One reason is, leftist keep importing non-White multitudes who have a vested interest in the race card.

The other reason is, misguided conservatives keep validating the "racism!" card themselves, and claiming to be the real "anti-racists".

That's hopeless because "racism" and "anti-racist" are the left's terms. The left can make those terms mean anything it wants, and in practice "racist" means White and not in the liberal camp, and "anti-racist" means anti-White and proud of it.

Every time the left chants "racist" the right flinches or retreats. Or it pleads not guilty; and politically pleading not guilty becomes pleading, and pleading is losing.

Since the left's race card will never be maxed out, it has to be cut up.

Everybody on the right should stop validating the "racist" label. Instead, when the left chants "racist!" Whites should say "you are anti-White".

Because it's true! If you look at what Barack Obama's pastor and sundry friends say about Whites, there is enough evidence to convict them of being anti-White forty times over.

I don't know if Whites would have done better in elections by taking a defiant attitude, but I'm pretty sure they would have done better in policy terms if they weren't going into a fetal cringe all the time. And electoral politics is supposed to pay off in policy.

233 Palin 2016 - She will lose but there will be tits.

234 As a party, we are still campaigning against Santa Clause and Sammy Davis Jr's "Candy Man"
And just like when your four year old gets back from Santa's lap, and breathlessly says "And Santa promised me a new bike, and a Playstation for Christmas"
And being the adult of the group, you wanna punch Santa right in the dicklicker for making promises that you have to pay for.

But if you talk bad about Santa, your child will hate you.

235 are you 12? if we are all evil...why are you here? go play somewhere else where they are all saints.....Jesus spare us from these idiots...

236 "Asians" are not necessarily Koreans or Japanese, the hardworking conservative types we like to think about or Vietnamese who fled the Communists. "Asian" now also includes Pakistani and Indonesian Muslims, and there are a shit-ton of them coming to the US. "Asian" also includes a lot of Chinese immigrants, and they are all atheists who were raised under Communism. In China, pot is essentially legal, there is no minimum drinking age, and no large families because of the one-child policy. So they are all libertines and very liberal. It's a big version of where America is heading.

237 The only solution is the USA must physically divide. It is divided every other way already. Forcing it to stay together is the wrong thing to do. Again, our enemies use the Constitution against us.

238 i think for conservatives target number one should be the MSM. that's the linchpin of the democrats media machine. I mean shit there hasn't been a democrat in generations that can effectively argue their positions they all rely on the MSM to carry their water for them. And Fox News isn't a counter balance. the GOP's fucking primary debates are moderated and run by people who pop in and out of the democrat party during their careers and the fuckwits that run the GOP don't seem to care. the corruption in the MSM has done more damage to this country than we can imagine.

239
why is Boehner offering a deal already?
Posted by: osu





"Oh shut up, silly woman," said the reptile with a grin
"You knew damn well I was a ssssssnake before you took me in "

240 Recriminations to John Boehner and the Republican establishment for reading out a scripted result instead of counting the vote at the GOP Convection, and generally for showing contempt for democratic norms in excluding the Paulites and sundry grass roots conservatives.

And recriminations for every Republican who in a spirit of vengeance helped Richard Mourdock to lose.

241

Mocking me because I told a true story about a friend who was raped and hung herself (in a conversation about suicide that I didn't begin) recently is not cool.

She's very much dead, and that you all tell me to fuck off, and don't have a word for him, is just ... not surprising anymore.

I look for goodness in the world (and my friend probably did too), but where is it to be found?

You don't think erring on the side of caution is in order and maybe just not doubling on something that tragic is a good policy?

I don't know if you've realized this, but we do live in a world where people get raped and then kill themselves.

 

We also live in a world where Nigerians offer millions over the internet and lonely, horny, rich supermodels are just waiting for you to reply to their e-mail.

242

Be careful what you ask for.

A plurality of the electorate asked for this with their votes and they will never believe that they chose badly, right to their dying breath in a resettlement camp.  When your political system robs Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on support from Paul.

The optimistic version of an American future is that of Venezuela, or Argentina - or Greece.  The ruling Nomenklatura of the present day will never let go of power for the rest of their lives.

We are years past the point where elections can fix anything.

Let it burn.  Walk away if you can.

243 243 i think for conservatives target number one should be the MSM. that's the linchpin of the democrats media machine.
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Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts!

Glenn Reynolds has figured out what you have, and the solution. Instapundit's not a conservative, but he's not stupid either. When someone's got a good idea, adopt it.

244 Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 08, 2012 07:52 AM (zZJJp)

My cynical self thoughts regarding the Christie Obama romance ... Christie is a craven politician and saw this as a grand opportunity to suck up to dem voters in his state. The Springsteen call was just nauseating. It got him a lot of goodwill among democratic voters. However he is moron if he thinks means votes.

245 It is too bad we can't organize a strike by 50 million Americans. The Federal Empire is powerful, but it can be starved.

246 >>> We also live in a world where Nigerians offer millions over the internet and lonely, horny, rich supermodels are just waiting for you to reply to their e-mail. A person on a blog who's been commenting there for weeks or months (or longer), and who may be unpopular -- in part because of his personality and persistence, and in part because he's said things, like election predictions, that were not appreciated despite being closer to reality than the consensus -- relaying a personal story of someone he knows who killed herself, which is not uncommon at all, and was raped, also not uncommon, and is not asking for any money from you .. does not equal that. They aren't the same thing at all. It wouldn't cost a penny to show humanity or to at least refrain from evil viciousness. But apparently, among this company, I ask too much from too many. And no one has a measured word of restraint for him? Jesus would weep. I don't believe Jesus was a god, but either way he would weep (or at least be displeased) and it would not be at me. I don't actually have to like someone very much at all not to engage in behavior that you find acceptable. You are a tribe, yes, but you are not moral virtuous people. You are people who self-righteously tell yourself you are. If I was Kos or Charles Johnson, there's no defensible reason for you to do as you do.

247 The way I see it, the next four years will be god awful -- really carteresque, than the donks are gone. Hang in there!

248 #182  so THAT'S why Sammy Gangrene was so effed up stupid about the evangelical vote yesterday---makes sense now

249 than= then

250 25 Drudge had the link up yesterday, I don't know if it's still there... 39% That's what Obama got, from white people. I'm surprised that this quote from Valerie Jarrett hasn't gotten more play: "After we win this election, itÂ’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we donÂ’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress wonÂ’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go."

251 So double down on evil.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 08, 2012 07:56 AM (SKX2R)

Says the MFr who was advocating euthanasia last night.

252 Sam: Fuck off already!

253 Let us say a new Reagan is elected in 2016. What will he or she do to turn back 100 years of creeping socialism? It is impossible. The first Reagan failed. The proof is Obama.

254 Recriminations to everyone who supported the Immigration and Nationalization Act of 1965, and to every so-called conservative since then who has been in a position to try to repeal or weaken that act, and did nothing.

That more than anything else has driven the demographic change that has led to this bitter defeat.

Recriminations also for the "open borders" champions led by George W. Bush and John McCain. It all added to the unfavorable electoral playing field.

255 >>> Sam: Fuck off already! Posted by: Jesus at November 08, 2012 08:43 AM Alright.

256 Spent the evening looking at property in Texas and discussing future financials to avoid as many taxes as possible, including the new Cal taxes and Obamacare taxes. Will have to lay off a few employees and will give $ 0 to local Ed foundation. This will wind up hurting the state and our economy more than it hurts us.

257 We live in a Zombie Apocalypse, but it is not our brains they want, it is our wallets. The system is in place. The more we work to better ourselves, the stronger the Federal Empire gets.

258 Recriminations to every Republican dumb enough to agree to a debate moderated by Democratic operatives with bylines.

259 So in both cases Democrat votes went down considerably, but so did Republicans. It follows the national numbers. We expected our side to have a wave and the wave never came. That is the story of the election. So the unions did not give it to the Dems in these two States. Republicans sitting at home gave it to them. How could many of us, and especially me, have been so wrong on the Republican turnout? Are we truly an isolated group feeding ourselves with regenerative political feedback? (Another thing to keep in mind is that the Republican and Democrat turnout in 2008 was down from 2004.)

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2012 07:05 AM (YdQQY)



That's what's baffling me. Where the hell was the Republican turn out? Where was the enthusiasm? Maybe Romney wasn't the greatest candidate ever but he was by far better than Barry and would have done a better job of being president than that commie SOB. Are people so clueless as to leave the fate of the country and their lives in the hands of these assholes?

260 Conservatives must think strategically. Migrate to Conservative States. Every Conservative in California is wasting a vote needed elsewhere, a vote that could make a difference.

261 I'm surprised that this quote from Valerie Jarrett hasn't gotten more play:

"After we win this election, itÂ’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we donÂ’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress wonÂ’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go."

Posted by: rickl at November 08, 2012 08:42 AM (sdi6R)

Spoken like a true commie bitch. She's probably still upset about not Chicago not getting the Olympics. She bought a bunch a property (or got it somehow) on land that would have been used for the games. This whole bunch ought to be in jail for life

262

On one, the moms wore matching shirts that read "Cum hard or don't cum at all", and another "Hit Squad".

 

**jaw on floor** You have got to be shitting me.

263 Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2012 08:50 AM (1Jaio) It's hard to win voting against something. In the end, very few people were voting for Romney. I tried, I tried to like him, be excited by him. Hell, I voted for him. But the truth remains, He was not the candidate we needed. Who was that candidate? I have no Idea.

264 I wonder if I'm in the anger or acceptance phase.

265 269 I wonder if I'm in the anger or acceptance phase. Posted by: LASue at November 08, 2012 08:57 AM (gjIQF) Have you stpped drinking yet?

266 >>>I still don't get the hurricane thing. Exactly what do people think
Obama did?

It doesn't matter to this generation of idiots what Obama did.  They put President Kardashian into a bitchin' bomber jacket, paraded him around like a fashion-hip rockstar and the masses swooned.

267 I love people blaming the hurricane for the GOP's losses. Remember when the GOP was in power and we HAD a huge hurricane that could have been effectively dealt with? Yeah, your party blew that one epically. Karma is a bitch. Perhaps the party would do better if it didn't condescendingly dismiss every voter except old white men. Latinos and blacks and women and gays DO exist in this country, as much as you don't like it. Perhaps it's time you spent some time with them, instead of just telling them to fuck off.

268 Jesus would weep.

I don't believe Jesus was a god, but either way he would weep (or at least be displeased) and it would not be at me.

Now that "or at least be displeased" stuff, is funny stuff. Non-Christians seem to love projecting themselves into the character of the Son of God while dismissing that He is God.

At least its funny in the Evangelical circles I run in, you know, all of us that threw the election for Obama.

269 "Are we truly an isolated group feeding ourselves with regenerative political feedback?"

Of course youre not, Vic. Michael Barone assures me that this is true. Landslide for Romney!

270 182 Funny thing is, "he" was named Random and was gay and upset by Rick Perry. Now, "he" had girlfriend who hanged herself because she had been raped multiple times, and was very concerned everyone was too optimistic. Oh he was also Mormon, but had become an atheist. Devastated by Mitt's loss, he turned to the noted producer of "Can't Stop the Music" to stop smoking.

Posted by: Baldy at November 08, 2012 08:01 AM (opS9C)

An internet forum lying story. Years ago I belonged to book forum, mostly women. However it wasn't just on-line. Members got together regularly in the "real" world. This one members slowly developed this elaborate story of being a successful executive and social advocate. She was so concerned about minorities she fostered two 2 black children who she was in the process of adopting. She was a hard core leftist. The details that provided about her life was amazing. She went into the whole adoption process. Ups and downs. Stories about the kids crack mother. Doctor appointments. The whole thing. Her life as an executive including all sorts of minor/major tidbits ... meetings, report writing ... the whole thing. Well women being women when she the adoption was nearly final. We threw her a shower. Virtual and in real life. Well that was when the whole thing unraveled. No one was allowed to the kids among other things. Not a 100% sure how she was finally exposed but I believe a forum member cop check out her story. The whole thing 100% false. No kids, No Grand job.Nada. Nothing. The consensus she created this entire fictional world  to booster her political arguments and was a drunk too who had mental issues.

271 We do not understand minorities, for that, read illegal Hispanics or Hispanics with illegal loved ones and Blacks, for the simple reason that we do not think like criminals.  That is not harsh or racist, it is fact.  The very first thing about an illegal is the fact that their life in America is based on at least one felony and then they just keep right on stacking them up by illegally accessing goods and services.  By and large,Blacks rightly or wrongly view themselves as being outside of White culture's laws--even when one of them is murdered or raped or robbed, they usually do not cooperate with law enforcement because that's is somehow selling out to the MAN and causes them to lose their place in their part of society.  So here we are the party of truth, justice, the American Way, law and order, and the minorities say we want no part of that because that does not resonate with us!

272 RE: Beyonce "mitches" Knowles, Superbowl half-time show---I don't care what she thinks or says, go for it sweetheart, let us know exactly what you think, or feel --but don't giver her a national platform . We need to pick our targets and require accountablity. from the legacy media--why won't they use Hank Williams Jr eh?...too controversial? What's Mitches Beyonce?--acceptable?

273 Until election results ARE the ballots as cast, all the rest is mongering.

The corruption that matters is within our own US Government. Redress that to regain constitutional equilibrium. Our votes tally according to the dictatorship's design, not as cast. Oppositional votes were disappeared.

The POTUS candidate who campaigned strictly on constitutional grounds and attacking corruption was denied due process within the Republican Party. And the voices who condemned his platform have also ridiculed the legitimate protestation against breaking from rule of law. But now that their own corrupt methodology plays against them, they cry foul. Authoritarianism is great according to Republicans who gestated the Patriot Act and DHS, each term extending unconstitutional dictatorship powers of corrupt imbalance, plotting THEIR TURN to rule.

The United States Constitutional Republic deserves better.

Destroy Unions? Expose the brutality of Union LEADERS. Punish Media? Certainly, Expose Lies and Boycott Malmedia.

In the end, people coalesce. The US Constitution is our nation's Standard. But since both parties function without constitutional regard, that is THE point: No Standard Bearer. So people coalesce into special interest to get what they "deserve" more than what others "deserve".

So long as governance is corrupt, we the people are divided, and special interests ally with vitriol, whether in victory or defeat. Mote meet Beam. Destroy Unions? What, annihilate the workers' standard of living because their leadership is rotten to the core? Rather, clean our own government first, beginning with our own political party. Since Republicans believe in Reagan's "trickle down economy" then apply that top down principle to Rule of Law. No candidate and no PAC "deserves" the right of corruption.

And blog personalities who intoned in 2008 "That's not a hill worth the fight" can blame themselves for endorsing Obama's illegitimacy with their own apologist selfish rationales, mudslinging in order to appear "smart". Unwittingly, perhaps. But not for having been ignorant. Live and learn better sooner than later.

Impeach: Contract Law Nullified, Fiscal Insolvency, Fast and Furious, Illegal Libyan War, Gross Dereliction of Duty.

The Republican Party is every bit as corrupt as the Unions. Packaging differs with 'better manners' cloaking the dagger enforcing authoritarian rule. Neither party will seek to rescind corruption because THEY LOVE IT'S BENEFITS.

Voters who allied within the party despite differences with the corrupt Republican Leadership were again disenfranchised by the Republican Party at their own Convention. But now since the Republican POTUS candidate met defeat, we're told to punish the media and attack union workers in order to feel better and "improve" our situation.

Meanwhile, Bush's Doctrine is Obama's: Interventionist Nation Building Wars Win Hearts and Minds through US TAX FUNDED Bribes while forcing our troops to accept suicidal Rules of Engagement. Those Rules haven't changed, still stacked against our troops who AGAIN were denied their votes so conveniently "lost".  OUR taxes enhance the genocide of all minorities and the most barbaric abuses against humanity. OUR troops are perpetually re-deployed in these never ending wars awaiting their turn with the worst in combat without borders permeating the region and encompassing the globe in economic wars, ordered to train the very men whom our forces fight.

Bush's suicidal Rules of Engagement aren't limited in scope to our military personnel in the Middle East. They apply in political practice here at home. By forcing such abroad, there was no way to prevent it from applying at home as well. THAT Republican Leadership does not deserve any vote of confidence. That "Republican" success requires authoritarian FORCE we presently witness being exercised in the Democrat Leadership agenda. Sickening shared political values taking turns as King of the Mountain.

And we should fixate on the corruption of Unions and the Media? Best through our own Union and Media. But tit for tat is bullshit. And I'm not falling for any agenda EXCEPT FOR MY CONSTITUTION.

274 It's hard to win voting against something. In the end, very few people were voting for Romney. I tried, I tried to like him, be excited by him. Hell, I voted for him. But the truth remains, He was not the candidate we needed. Who was that candidate? I have no Idea.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 08, 2012 08:57 AM (3Y7RV)

Even if Romney wasn't ideal, and he wasn't, the alternative was too horrible to accept and now we have to because enough people sat it out.

275 You're probably right, there. Plus, for some reason, certain Christian types have a problem with Mormons. I don't understand it. Every Mormon I have ever known has been/are the most excruciatingly happy and decent people I have ever been around.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 08, 2012 08:10 AM (e0R1n)

Mormons claim to be Christian, despite having a belief system markedly different from us (trinitarian monotheism is kind of important to Christianity), and non-Christians usually accept their claims at face value and treat anyone who says otherwise as some sort of bigot. Mormons may be nice folks and I would be happy to have them as neighbors, but until they admit that they are a separate religion they are exactly the sort of false teachers who preach a different Christ that Paul warned us against and naturally there is going to be a special kind of friction between the two religions. Crying "bigot" just adds insult to injury - I am still sore over how some of the blogosphere acted back in the 2008 primary.

Having said all that, I don't know Christians who have told me that they wouldn't vote for Romney because of his religion, though I suspect a couple I know didn't vote for him for other reasons.

276 272: right. Republicans are the ones who soundly reject women and minorities, like Allen West, Mia Love, Marco Rubio, Condaleeza Rice, Bobby Jindal, Suzanna Martinez, Herman Cain and Kevin James. And when someone of color, like Stacy Dash dares to support a candidate whose race doesn't match hers, we vilify her. Sure.

277 We dodged a bullet with Mr. Reach Across The Aisle Romney

278 Posted by: LASue at November 08, 2012 09:09 AM (gjIQF) Yep

279 Here are Obama's peeps: http://goo.gl/W1ZdR They claim that murdering whites, including children, are "reparation protests." They are scum and harass the family of murder victims. So glad that the death penalty was kept in CA.

280 @276 Congrats! You've said the most racist thing I've read all week! Ironic...You people take pride in being the biggest assholes on the Internet, and you wish for your party to reflect that attitude. And it does. And you're shocked that you lost an election???? Look in the mirror. No one likes racist assholes who are soft on rape. Especially when you so vehemently deny that you're not either one of those things. You're assholes and liars.

281

Take heart.  I think there's a lot of fretting over how we turn this around within the context of 'present-day' conditions.  I think it's a misjudgement of how change actually happens.  What will force REAL change back to conservative principles - if such is to be had - is pain.  Lots of it.  Look at Russia versus her client states in the old Soviet Union.  First note that even amongst people who'd never experienced liberty the desire for liberty grew despite all attempts to keep it contained.  Eventually it broke out.  In Russia - where the quality of life was ALWAYS significantly better than in the various client states, there has been some backsliding toward statist solutions.  I'd hazard a guess that it's because the pain of the change was greater than the pain of communism in Russia.  In many of the client states however - East Germany, Yugoslavia, Slovakia, Poland, Latvia, etc - there hasn't been much back-sliding, because the pain of change is FAR LESS than the remembered pain and scarcity of communism. 

All of this is to say that the American electorate will wake up only when they're finally forced to.  In this case, the faster it happens, the better off we really are - a speedy death to the old way of life being far preferred to a slow, multi-generation lingering death.  Those who say 'let it burn' I believe are on the right track.  Withhold your money from all causes, and keep your production in check.  Let the spiral accelerate and let the powers that be seek ever more intrusive ways to keep their con going.  Soon, even the uneducated, the illiterate, and the illegal minority will understand the need for conservative principles, because they will be the first to feel the lash, and the first to die of the consequences.  Conservatism works because it most closely mirrors reality as it relates to the responsibility of the individual in liberty-promoting society.  That is, always has been, and will remain the one weapon we have that can not be taken a way - the ultimate backstop on the disappearance of individual liberty.  Get a long stick and buy some marshmallows.  Be ready to share with the newly awakened and hungry.  They'll be here soon enough. 

In the meantime, let's stop looking for conservative hero's to save the day.  'The day' is not yet ready to be saved, and you'll just get aggravated wondering why the spineless generation in power isn't doing 'something.'  A pox on all their houses.  They've had the chance for 20 years and they've failed miserably.

282 RE: Beyonce "mitches" Knowles, Superbowl half-time show---I don't care what she thinks or says, go for it sweetheart, let us know exactly what you think, or feel
--but don't giver her a national platform .

We need to pick our targets and require accountablity. from the legacy media--why won't they use Hank Williams Jr eh?...too controversial? What's Mitches Beyonce?--acceptable?

Posted by: lulub at November 08, 2012 09:05 AM (tlr3F)

Rush Limbaugh could not be tolerated as a part owner of the Rams but the NFL doesn't have an issue with this c*nt. Fuck the NFL

283 281 It's good that you have tokens among your officials. But your voter rolls don't reflect that. Those officials are trotted out as proof of diversity, but diverse communities see through that as pandering, which it is. Look, you can keep your head in the racist sand if you want. In fact, please do. But don't throw those folks out there as some kind of proof that you're not racist. I see that's bullshit, and so do minority voters.

284

Down here in the lower Hudson Valley. The gas crunch has eased and fuel is plentiful.

 

So who shows up today? FEMA with free gas!

Would have been great to have that a week ago.

Now it's just a payback.

285 Mormons claim to be Christian, ... but until they admit that they are a separate religion they are exactly the sort of false teachers who preach a different Christ that Paul warned us against .... Crying "bigot" just adds insult to injury ...
Posted by: Grey Fox at November 08, 2012 09:06 AM


Mormonism is a 19th century apocalyptic cult that morphed into a modern cult in the 1920s with the help of Madison Avenue image consultants. They are180 degrees from their original content and doctrine.

286 285 Srsly? Then you missed my wetback comments yesterday. Yes. I live in Texas. We still call them wetbacks. It's not racist. It's truthful & descriptive. When you have to swim a river to get here illegally.......

287 Gawd! It's like whack a mole here. We get rid of one troll and along comes another one.

288 Posted by: BearMtnBob at November 08, 2012 09:18 AM (fl8vK)

Don't get me started on that. Part of the reason we gas problems here was not no gas but no ethanol. Gas retailers was begging the fed to lift the restriction. They brought to the local news and in 24 hours the restriction was lifted.

289 I dont know what happened but my guess at this point is that the message of "you can have your cake and eat it too" beat that of "no you cant" Otherwise it makes no sense to re elect a president when the economy is in th crapper. What the results DO mean is that the US must experience for itself what socialism is and what living in Spain, Greece, Italy is economically, England politically, possibly as far as Venezuela. Most people cannot learn by others' example and we will all suffer greatly before there is a backlash. I hope that backlash comes in the way of the vote but it really depends on what Barky and his gang do the next four years. My lib friends on Facebook were really quiet in the weeks before the election. They were not confident because at no time in the past would a president like this get re elected. They are crowing now... There is very dangerous optimism on their part. There will be no compromise, just running roughshod over everything they can.

290 Does anyone here agree that the comment at 276 is some racist bullshit? No one agrees with that??? THAT'S WHY YOU GOT KILLED IN THIS ELECTION. Good lord you people are thick. AOSHQ is entirely complicit in this development. When you foster a meeting place where it's okay to refer to Obama as "ogabe the sun king", you've jumped into bed with racism. Good luck with that.

291 Y'all, these past two elections have been largely about one thing: Black people want white people to pay for all the bad things done in history to people of color. What's been done for them, in their minds is NOT ENOUGH. More must be done. They don't mind a man, especially a blackish man, becoming president and totally wrecking our nation because they think we deserve it. They don't exactly love America, and ironically in opposition to the Jesus most of them say they believe in, they can't forgive and move on. They believe God has ordained them to make somebody pay. Anybody know exactly what these minority think will finally pay the bill we owe them? Will a destroyed nation and ruined future for most if not all the world make them happy? I guess if one is going to hell anyway, might as well go for the gold, I guess. . . and take everybody with you as you go down. As for whites voting for Obama. . . there are many more things going on there. White Obama supporters are the most petty, emotional, and intellectually ignorant people. If they are academics, rich or middle class white Obama supporters, they assume other whites in America to be as privileged and wealthy as they are. They are not typically empathetic to whites, and in this assumption that other middle class whites are as well off as they are, they see whites as "above" blacks. . . they are actually racists. I can't think of a better way to explain it, but they see whites as they are in culture as being more evolved and believe minorities need whites to stoop down and give them a hand up so that we can truly be equal. Does that make sense? They are typically useful tools who get distracted by petty social issues (like gay marriage, birth control pills, rights of Islamic terrorists, etc.) The racist/elitest whites are the ones who have always driven the democrat party. They make themselves feel acceptable to Christ and their own made-up self-important societies by doing such good things for the less fortunate and lower class. They are typically snobs. Their "status in society and academia" deludes them into thinking they are above doing wrong because they got their sh*t together compared to the lowers of society (you know, blue collareds, military, minorities, rednecks, uneducated-backwards Southerners, people who live in trailers, went to community colleges or didn't go to college at all, etc.). Take UNC Chapel Hill for example. . . that liberal education bastion is an absolute factory for liberal, uppities who think they can get away with corrupt sports programs while their colleagues at other universities cannot. . . Deluded white, racist snobs (trying so hard to convince themselves they are innately good and pure) voted for Obama. Or else, Obama-supporting whites are whites who want free stuff. (Did you know there are double the number of whites in poverty than blacks? Also, there are more hispanics in poverty than blacks?)

292 So, what happened with Romney's super-duper ultra-modern "ground game"?
It had apps!
It had strike lists!
It brought in fewer Republican voters!

293 You openly call Latinos wetbacks here, huh? Enough said. Seriously, fuck you people. You're far too ignorant to ever comprehend why people are turning away from total assholes like yourselves. Welcome to historical obscurity. You more than deserve it.

294 Who called Latinos wetbacks? That is pathetic. I don't think I've heard such cruelty since the unfortunate evening I spent in the company of a bunch of drunk UNC frat honky boys.

295 "After we win this election, itÂ’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we donÂ’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress wonÂ’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go."

   - Valerie Jarrett

And precisely why I'm buying a rifle.  And ammo.  Lots of ammo.

296 Some parallels to ponder while surveying this moonscape in which we find ourselves: --Obama is the first President since FDR to be reelected with such a high unemployment rate. We reelected FDR during a no-kidding Depression. --Obama got a boost from Sandy; FDR got one from the Dust Bowl. --We have the Eurozone crisis in our time making matters worse; Americans of FDR's time had the bank failures that began with the bankruptcy of Creditanstalt. --Obama governs with a pen and a flick of the wrist; FDR tried to pack the courts. So, two sets of questions: 1. If a majority of us Americans are at heart a by-the-bootstraps, entreprenurial, salt-of-the-earth, nose-to-the-grindstone, too-proud-to-accept-a-handout types, then why did we ever elect FDR back in the day when we were more independent-minded, able to raise our own food (and/or hunt for it), make our own stuff, etc.? Is there something selective or misguided about the analysis by 21st century conservatives of our national character and history? Is there something we're not understanding about what Americans need and want to hear during a crisis? Are we saying it in the wrong way? I don't know; these questions are just comeing to me and I wish I could answer them. They may not even be the right ones. It's a start. I think. 2. Is there any guarantee we can recover from four more years of Hopeychangey Totalitarianism? There ain't no guarantee for nuthin' except death. We have done it before. But remember: Reagan was elected 48 years after FDR's first win. That's two generations. I hope it won't take that long; I'd like to live to see it. It's going to be a long, hard slog.

297 Comment 291: racial slur that was outdated 20 yeas ago Comment 276: "we don't understand minorities because we're not criminals" Thank you SO much for validating and confirming every stereotype of conservatives that I hold dear. You get an A for the day! Also, you people are naked bigots.

298 So, looting is widespread in NY? Where's the douchebag you voted for now?

299 .
47

That's a previously banned commenter known as Random.

For some reason Ace won't or can't ban it again.

Interestingly enough this person has been annoying everyone that reads anything they write since yesterday, through the night and is still on today.

It's either more than one person (Ace you should be proud you've attracted the attention of someone who wants to sabotage this blog.) or they're really juiced up on bennies and coffee.

It's link goes to one of it's tl;dr screeds that seems harmless until you examine it more closely.

So far it's managed to piss off and earn massive amounts of counter argument and outright hate by just about everyone that reads any thread they're in. (and they managed to make themselves annoying in almost every thread.

Help us Obi Ace Kenobi, you're our only hope; ban this thing Samwise Gamgee the 3rd before it poisons the whole blog.

300 Why was random banned from here?

301 @Shroedinger's Cat:

157 1. Allow the Bush tax cuts to expire. All of them. The Democrats have
blamed everything bad that has happened over the last ten years on the
Bush tax cuts. OK, you wanted them gone, they're gone.

They're gone and the economy tanks. 'Disposable' income evaporates for 75% of the middle class. Housing market collapses. Even 'official' unemployment rises to 12.5%. Consumer spending disappears.

Be careful what you ask for.

Uh, Shroedinger? The people get the kind of Government they deserve. They voted for this guy. Even the people who voted for McCain/Palin in 2008 and "stayed home" this time.

Especially the clowns who voted for Gary Johnson.

I work for Home Depot. I will be very lucky to have a job in two years.

302

"How could many of us, and especially me, have been so wrong on the Republican turnout"

- it's easy, Vic - there was no Rep/conservative on the ballot. The Won vs. the Won Light, and guess what - the incumbent won.

"Recriminations to every Republican dumb enough to agree to a debate moderated by Democratic operatives with bylines" -

"Why" Part II. Act like the other side is in control, then act surprised @ the results? Really?

303

"Thats bull. The GOP waged a pretty libertarian campaign,completely dropping social issues and only advocating economic liberty and it didnt work"

I'm guessing that you 1) never saw a political ad this time out, and 2) never heard of the twin idiots who fumbled away the GOP's chances....

304 "The GOP waged a pretty libertarian campaign,completely dropping social issues and only advocating economic liberty and it didn't work"

Because of Todd Aiken and Co.

305 The Valerie Jarrett quote is from The Ulsterman Report, which is probably why it hasn't had more play, he claims he heard about it third hand. She probably has said something along these lines, and I bet one of the SCOTUS judges is her.

306 1. We can still shut down the MFM and the Hollywood sellouts.

2. Stop watching the news or cut your cable entirely.

3. Let the advertisers know why.

4. If you absolutely can't then patronize a conservative outlet.

5. Stop going to movies, renting movies or buying movies (exceptions, see line 4.)

6. make sure any and all advertisers in your (presumably liberal) paper know that you will not patronize them unless they stop advertising with that paper OR that you are canceling you subscription OR will never purchase the rag against because of it's lies and coverups and that you hold them responsible for it's existence.

7. It's time that some protests began being aimed at the Media.
Notice they never get a lot of flack over any thing they say no matter what. No one holds them accountable.

Doing all the above won't make the next 2-4 years better but may make it more palatable to you and may eventually do some good if we can make at least one of these lying douchebags pay for their propaganda.

307 Both SCOTUS judges will be female.

BET?

308 THAT'S WHY YOU GOT KILLED IN THIS ELECTION. Good lord you people are thick. AOSHQ is entirely complicit in this development. When you foster a meeting place where it's okay to refer to Obama as "ogabe the sun king", you've jumped into bed with racism. Good luck with that.

 

Posted by: He's a mooslin!!!1!! at November 08, 2012 09:22 AM (U465A)

 

How do you feel about "Chocolate Crackhead?"

309 272: right. Republicans are the ones who soundly reject women and minorities, like Allen West, Mia Love, Marco Rubio, Condaleeza Rice, Bobby Jindal, Suzanna Martinez, Herman Cain and Kevin James. And when someone of color, like Stacy Dash dares to support a candidate whose race doesn't match hers, we vilify her. Sure.

 

Posted by: LASue at November 08, 2012 09:09 AM (gjIQF)

 

 

It's good that you have tokens among your officials. But your voter rolls don't reflect that. Those officials are trotted out as proof of diversity, but diverse communities see through that as pandering, which it is. Look, you can keep your head in the racist sand if you want. In fact, please do. But don't throw those folks out there as some kind of proof that you're not racist. I see that's bullshit, and so do minority voters.

 

Posted by: He's a mooslin!!!1!! at November 08, 2012 09:15 AM (U465A)

 

So then why are "those folks" in the GOP?  Just dumb?  Or you think they're all Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas? 

 

And remind me, jackhole, which party kept sending a KKK Grand Kleagle back to DC year after year after year?  It sure as hell wasn't the GOP.  SO piss off and go get your fucking shinebox.

 

But first. . .

310 "Something wicked this way comes"

McCain lost, Romney lost because they aren't really conservatives and were weak candidates, although Romney was much superior to McCain.

But the fundamental reason is that the left has created structural advantages for themselves in schools, the press, the culture. Until the right either develops countervailing structures of equal power or destroys the lefts we will continue to lose. As an example, Scott Walker showed one way to successfully weaken unions by eliminating some bargaining rights, eliminating dues deductions by the government.

Unfortunately for seniors who would like to continue to live, ObamaCare, socialized medicine, is now in place and will be so forever and ever. No society has ever repealed socialize medicine. That was always the real issue of the campaign not jobs and it was hardly discussed.

All future elections will be fought on the left. They will basically be about how much money to spend on ObamaCare. Trying to make a limited government argument when your very life depends on the whims of government bureaucrats will be nearly impossible.

But human beings being hopeful types, the political battles will go on, with the recognition though that the progressives have won their century long battle to transform America.

311 I work for Home Depot. I will be very lucky to have a job in two years.

Take away the Bush tax cuts and you'll be lucky to have a job in three months. Because of location I shop at Lowes -- usually spend 500 a month or so. That will 'out of necessity' (to use Obama's words) go to ZERO if the tax cuts lapse. Multiply that by the number of customers who visit your store every month.

I can do without home improvement. Everything in your store I can do without. Like, I said, careful what you ask for, you might just get it.

312 He's a mooslin!!!1!! is a faux anti-racist personage. He didn't get angry when I called some drunk UNC frat boys "honky". I saw no rage from him there.

313 >>>317 He's a mooslin!!!1!! is a faux anti-racist personage. He didn't get angry when I called some drunk UNC frat boys "honky". I saw no rage from him there. Nor did he when I linked the website that justifies the murder of white children as "reparations."

314 What will force REAL change back to conservative principles - if such is to be had - is pain.

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The worst pain either makes or breaks a person. It could be argued on principle that the pains of slavery motivate the desire for liberty. But of itself, pain doesn't convert a mind to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Sharia plays the pain card. Monarchs, Emperors, Dictators and Presidents are known to inflict pain regardless of race, creed or gender.

Yes, Buddha says to recognize suffering as universal regardless of individual identity (lost in Nervana's amalgam).

Pain brings out the best and worst in people. Whether Galt-CEO or the working stiff, when self-centered people enjoying comfort can't appreciate a blessing in the mutual giving and receiving in free trade, leadership recriminates when the comfort is lost, rationalizing that their own obese ego is more special. Yet that's the criticism applied against social justice.

[Obama on my shoulder: "You didn't build that."]

In response to brutality, from Unforgiven
The Duck of Death: "I was building a house. I don't deserve this."
William Munny: "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

Politics reflect desire. Idea determines form.

A Renaissance requires alert inquiry, the willingness to observe and exercise logic. Our Founding Fathers represented the best product of their Zeitgeist, the Classical Liberals who knew full well that any masterwork MUST have a solid foundation and symmetrical balance, epitomizing the ingenious amalgam of Classicism with Romanticism. GENIUS was recognized then to encompass the ideal of encyclopedic consciousness practically into a novel and beneficial invention.

And today, our "betters" in Washington don't even read, and refuse to allow us to read bills before they are made law, legally or not. These idiots say that the Constitution is outdated, outmoded, irrelevant. Having each sworn to uphold the Constitution in office, these idiots induce idiocy of the nation. Their corruption also refutes any legitimacy regarding their legislated laws.

US Constitution and Bill of Rights ... tried and true best pain prevention is observance.

315 Ok Morons. Not to worry. VINDICATION is maybe 6-18 months away. The DUMB masses obviously can't be told what's going to happen, so they will get to feel and experience it first hand. Of course it will be painful for ALL of us, but I'd wager that our side is more able to withstand the coming adversities than the majority of their side. And then they will know why they fear the night. Hold fast !!

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#218 -- nice catch.  Thanks for pointing it out.

 

317 275 Posted by: Long Island at November 08, 2012 09:04 AM (EsJl1) - I have known people in the real world who do the same thing, one is really good. Ropes people in. A relative too is a compulsive e liar, but pretty bad, but skates through life... Known some on forums too. 1 collected money for Katrina . EEK.

318 We must start the war to win back the country, and in war unfortunately there will be collateral damage.  Time to ostercize, polarize and demoralize the enemy, any and every way possible.  If you own a business, check your employees yard for signs of who they support, if they lean to the left, find a reason to fire them and let it follow them for the rest of there work days.  Dont buy from businesses that support liberals, look at who donates(its public information) and so on.  Its not nice but if we keep playing nice we wont have anything left to play for.

319 Much may be said of all situations and seemingly have no end.  Do we know the future?  The one who knows the future must be sought .. Confrontation of violence never solves anything.. Most of the country seems to be of different mind than what the results were  settled on.  Politicians are out of touch with the people and only seem to project of what they may know and not what is necessary for the country as a whole.  More of what we are doing here should be done to keep in touch as all americans are one nation under God!  Most of the people of this loving country are out of touch with each other and ; therefore , seem to be uninformed.  We all must be open and honest with each other by not being narrow minded.  We should and I reiterate that this or some other means hopefully more open should be honestly dealt as our playng card.

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321 One thing I want to say is the fact before acquiring more computer memory, consider the machine into which it would be installed. If the machine is running Windows XP, for instance, the memory threshold is 3.25GB. Putting in greater than this would purely constitute some sort of waste. Make sure that one's motherboard can handle the upgrade volume, as well. Great blog post.