December 19, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Wednesday.
South Carolina state legislators are proposing to nullify Obamacare by enacting criminal penalties for any state or federal official caught implementing it. This is a stupid, unconstitutional idea, as I wrote almost two years ago when nullification first came up in the context of Obamacare, but I bet you a beer these legislators think they're real smart.
Fact: data shows no connection between violent video games and gun murders.
Benghazi report slams State Department for lack of security. You can see the full report here (PDF).
CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson is still on the trail of Fast and Furious. This time she's reporting that a Fast and Furious gun was found at site of the murder of a Mexican beauty queen.
Treasury is planning to sell its shares in two-thirds of the remaining TARP banks who have yet to pay their loans back.
Planet in the "Goldilocks zone," that is the range of orbits thought to be conducive to life, is in orbit of solar neighbor Tau Ceti.
Poll explains GOP "Let It Burn" faction.
Update: Courtesy of DrewM., the DOD press office is denying the DOD IG's report that Michael Vickers was the UBL raid film leaker.
The denial is, to say the least, unpersuasive. The press release fesses to one meeting between Vickers and the filmmakers and very carefully explains that Vickers didn't pass the name of the spec ops planner for the UBL mission at that meeting. It then further obscures the issue by noting that Vickers offered but ultimately didn't arrange a meeting for the filmmakers with a spec ops planner not associated with the UBL raid. But the release doesn't even try to suggest that Vickers had only one meeting with the filmmakers, nor does it directly deny the IG's conclusion that Vickers passed the name of a spec ops planner to the filmmakers.
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Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, December 19, 2012. On this day in 1776 an essay was written to be published on the 23rd.
THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. Britain, with an army to enforce her tyranny, has declared that she has a right (not only to TAX) but "to BIND us in ALL CASES WHATSOEVER" and if being bound in that manner, is not slavery, then is there not such a thing as slavery upon earth. Even the expression is impious; for so unlimited a power can belong only to God.
For further reading Bing up “The Crisis” by Thomas Pain
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:51 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/vcIvHk
The report (it will not display on my computer w./o enabling a bunch of shit I have disabled)
http://is.gd/ftjsAm
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:51 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/TYN1AA
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:52 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Damn .... at December 19, 2012 02:52 AM (bS6uW)
http://is.gd/f9uTRT
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:52 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:52 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/doid6F
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:53 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 02:53 AM (I2LwF)
http://is.gd/R81NVA
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:53 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 19, 2012 02:53 AM (Hdvhi)
(See previous thread)
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:53 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/9a9eHe
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:54 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/O3IVWb
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:54 AM (53z96)
He declined the job.
http://is.gd/qCcmh8
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:55 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/blmuIW
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:55 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 02:55 AM (piMMO)
http://is.gd/stsUDL
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:55 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Damn .... at December 19, 2012 02:55 AM (bS6uW)
http://is.gd/hH6tsn
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:55 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/RJ6BBu
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:56 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/HoqRaS
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:56 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 02:56 AM (piMMO)
‘Assault Weapons’ Ban?
Well-intentioned, but ineffective.
Bullshit. It is not well-intentioned. It is a piece of shit ploy to use a tragedy for political purposes. The assault weapons ban is just another step in removing all guns. THAT is the damn intention. Say it like it is and quit pussying around.
(no link since the actual article drops the crap)
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:56 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 02:57 AM (XkWWK)
chutz·pah
NOUN
1. self-confidence: boldness coupled with supreme self-confidence
2. rudeness: impudent rudeness or lack of respect
(note they have the order here reversed). The number 2 is used more often.
Better graphic
http://is.gd/Hbax8P
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:57 AM (53z96)
http://is.gd/5yqdu8
And thatÂ’s it for Wednesday, December 19, 2012. Note that there are a LOT of articles in the media this morning as they continue their assault on the second amendment. Like all other things that they attack conservatives on this will be a headline item every day for at least two weeks.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:57 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 02:58 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 02:59 AM (piMMO)
Gabe I posted that yesterday. And yes, SC did this....after 5 other States have done it. And it is not unconstitutional.
Don't respond because I will NEVER agree with you on this.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:59 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:02 AM (XkWWK)
South Carolina state legislators are proposing to nullify ObamaCare by enacting criminal penalties for any state or federal official caught implementing it. This is a stupid, unconstitutional idea...
Right. Because everything tfg does isn't.
This is the most encouraging news I've seen in a while.
Posted by: RushBabe at December 19, 2012 03:03 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:03 AM (XkWWK)
I'd prefer the term "soon to be deported at gunpoint cocksuckers".
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 03:04 AM (+ksWj)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:04 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 07:02 AM (XkWWK)
LOL, hey I provided a definition for my use of the Yiddish word. You have to give us one for those others. Especially since they are not as widespread as chutzpah.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:05 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:06 AM (53z96)
Behold, ‘rons and ‘ronettes, some weapons-grade stupid. This is from the “sound off” section of my local paper:
I am heartbroken for all the families suffering from our countryÂ’s lack of gun control. I have never heard when gun ownership saved a life. When are we going to start banging down our congressmenÂ’s doors demanding justice for gun-related senseless murders? The Second Amendment is outdated, like many laws that suited our ancestors at the time. The NRA needs to rethink its moral obligations for the safety of all our loved ones. I can hear the hunters crying foul, but they can indulge their primitive need by sharpening sticks. The right to be safe at schools, malls, movie theaters and especially our homes needs protection, not the right to bear arms.
I’d like to respond to this outright lunacy, but right now I can’t get beyond a “never heard when guns save a life? Are you that fucking stupid?”
Anyway. . .
A while back, someone asked if I knew any Lee Marvin stories. I didnÂ’t at the time, but I dug up a couple recently, so here they are:
Marvin was, as you know, an Olympic-class drinker. During the filming of The Dirty Dozen, he was at a cocktail reception in London, rather the worse for wear. As he careened around the room, Marvin saw a little old lady sitting by herself in the corner; staggering over, he propositioned her in the crudest, vilest, most vulgar manner possible. As it turned out, Marvin was slurring his words so much – and the little old lady was so deaf – that she asked him to repeat what he’d said, which Marvin did, to everyone’s horror. It was at that point that someone whispered to Marvin that the little old lady happened to be Sean Connery’s aunt, and that 007 himself was on his way over, loaded for bear.
Dirty Dozen’s producer Kenneth Hyman saw the fire in Connery’s eyes. Desperately jumping between the two men, he begged, “Don’t hit him in the face, Sean, he’s got close-ups tomorrow!” Luckily, Connery saw the funny side of it just in time and roared, “You fucking producers.”
Another one: John Boorman directed Marvin in 1967’s Point Blank. One evening, he and some friends went to dinner with Marvin at an LA restaurant. When it was time to leave, Boorman saw that Marvin was in no shape to drive and told him so. “Fuck you,” Marvin snarled, throwing a wild punch at the director’s head. Boorman managed to grab the keys to Marvin’s Chrysler and hopped in, just before the soused actor could get behind the wheel. Marvin prowled around the station wagon, pounding on the hood, kicking at the doors and finally crawling up on to the roof rack.
Boorman drove slowly along the harbor front, hoping the sea air would sober Marvin up, but it didnÂ’t. The director thought for a while, then finally decided to take a chance and drive down the Pacific Coast Highway towards MarvinÂ’s home in Malibu. Only a few minutes later, he saw flashing lights in the rearview mirror and pulled over.
The policeman strolled up to the car. He looked at the roof rack, then at Boorman, finally asking, “Do you know you have Lee Marvin on your roof?”
And thatÂ’s it for me. ItÂ’s year-end QA paperwork day, so I probably wonÂ’t be back until tomorrow. If any of you have some snappy retorts to that idiotic rant I posted above, let me know; IÂ’d love to use them.
Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 19, 2012 03:06 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:07 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:07 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 03:08 AM (+ksWj)
Pffft. They shoulda just LiB, right?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 03:09 AM (da5Wo)
They will also make moves against ammo clip size and ammunition itself.
Grab up all of the ammo you can boys also if you were just toying with the idea of getting a license and or permits do it now, because when the new regs are handed down from the fed, your state is going to stop processing new applications so they can incorporate all of the changes into whatever processes the states have now.
It's going to be a shit show.
DO IT NOW WHILE THERE IS STILL TIME!
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 19, 2012 03:09 AM (RrD4h)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:09 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:09 AM (I2LwF)
If Gabe says something is unconstitutional, that pretty much settles it... doesn't it?
It'll be interesting to see how many people suddenly discover a "strict constructionist" streak they never previously knew they had.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2012 03:09 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: john stark dark at December 19, 2012 03:10 AM (PALjS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:11 AM (piMMO)
Maybe attended Gallaudet University?
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 03:11 AM (+ksWj)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:12 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:13 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Damn .... at December 19, 2012 03:13 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:14 AM (I2LwF)
LMAO
Mornin Truman.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 03:14 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:15 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:15 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 07:09 AM (XkWWK)
Are you volunteering?
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:16 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:16 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:17 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Damn .... at December 19, 2012 03:17 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:18 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:18 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Damn .... at December 19, 2012 03:19 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:19 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Damn .... at December 19, 2012 07:13 AM (bS6uW)
Diagnosed by Reporting for Doody MD. I guess if George Clooney could play a doctor than somebody as brilliant as Lurch could although Yeeeaarrrgh must not have been available for a house call.
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 03:19 AM (+ksWj)
69 Good morning B cock. Let me be on record as saying that I find cheerleaders to be among the more stimulating people.
I was privy to the kerfuffle flapdoodle the other afternoon but lacked the mental acuity to comment on it due to a little flu bug I was hosting.
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 07:17 AM (I2LwF)
Lol. Two funny things about that. 1) Bannion actually proved my point for me when he talked about his missus; 2) somebody actually thought Bannion and I were gonna engage in a flame war over the intelligence of cheerleaders.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 03:19 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 03:19 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:20 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 03:21 AM (+ksWj)
79 75 I spent so much time playing Facebook that it was cutting into my masturbation time. Obviously, I got rid of Facebook.
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 07:19 AM (I2LwF)
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Fapbook.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 07:20 AM (XkWWK)
There is, supposedly, an adult version of facebook out there called "fuckbook".
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 03:22 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:23 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 03:23 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:24 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 07:23 AM (I2LwF)
I have not seen anything on that. Do you have a link?
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:24 AM (53z96)
beyond a “never heard when guns save a life? Are you that fucking
stupid?
Maybe attended Gallaudet University?
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 07:11 AM (+ksWj)
Now that's funny! Now I have to clean the coffee from the monitor.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at December 19, 2012 03:25 AM (YYyqq)
Here is what my timeline looks like:
Pointless discussion of school between granddaughter and her 8th grade classmates, mostly snark
Article in Southern living
Notification that retired classmate and her husband are going to some seafood restaurant in Florida
Grandson bragging about his weight--lifting accomplishments
Retired classmate linking something on Pinterest
Political rant by some guy I can't remember how I know
Talbots pushing a sale
Etc. etc. It is like a combination of junk mail and conversations overheard in a car pool. Worthless.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 03:25 AM (GoIUi)
What South Carolina wants to do is no different than what Roberts did or what Congress did... except they do it in the cause of liberty rather than oppression. Right now I don't think the Constitution even bears mentioning since it is clearly a dead letter and all that matters is who is most willing to use force and controls the levers of power. The Constitution will be found to say whatever they wish it to say... even if we have to substitute one word for another as Roberts did.
Posted by: Voluble at December 19, 2012 03:25 AM (qYvEa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:26 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:26 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:27 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Damn .... at December 19, 2012 03:27 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 19, 2012 03:28 AM (jucos)
Whatever gets the national divorce proceedings underway, I support.
Let's see the dems do something about it.
Posted by: Methos at December 19, 2012 03:28 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:29 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 07:26 AM (XkWWK)
She also displayed some unusual, for the MFM, curiosity on Benghazi. She must kick Bob Schieffer in the nads at least once a day.
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 03:29 AM (+ksWj)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:29 AM (piMMO)
http://tinyurl.com/c2t8k3p
"Report recommends France legalize 'accelerated deaths'"
http://tinyurl.com/cnsw3na
What Hell have we wrought?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 03:30 AM (da5Wo)
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There were 5 States before SC proposing jail time.
http://is.gd/1aCQuS
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:30 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 19, 2012 03:30 AM (Hdvhi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 03:31 AM (piMMO)
RushBabae: The Magilla is the biblical story of Esther. Interesting bit of trivia, it is the only part of the Old Testament where G-d is not mentioned; it is purely an historical tract.
I'm not of the Tribe. I just saw it in a hilarious comment on Babs Streisand's new movie and how awful it was. The commenter used tons of Yiddish and it sounded pretty credible.
Posted by: RushBabe at December 19, 2012 03:32 AM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Helping it burn. at December 19, 2012 03:32 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: pep at December 19, 2012 03:32 AM (USJNU)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 19, 2012 03:33 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:35 AM (53z96)
Happened once in my hometown...mayor decided to quit after his term was up, town wrote him back in in the next election. He agreed to stay on, though.
It is like a combination of junk mail and conversations overheard in a car pool. Worthless.
The problem is not the tool. The problem is you need better friends.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2012 03:36 AM (hO8IJ)
They have no more authority than what the rest of us consent to.
Posted by: Methos at December 19, 2012 03:36 AM (hO9ad)
Sheesh. If you are going to predict the end of the world, predict your own demise first.
Posted by: rickb223 Let. it. Burn at December 19, 2012 03:36 AM (d0Dmj)
Mt. Everest.....in 2 billion pixels.
http://tinyurl.com/brzbnct
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 03:37 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 19, 2012 03:37 AM (jucos)
Shut up, I love cryptozoology.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Helping it burn. at December 19, 2012 03:37 AM (Gk3SS)
5OK all you “Ettes, some good news. If you let hubby (or other) squeeze’em it may prevent cancer!
.......................
When I read that I thought maybe I could finally put the question of whether or not my dr is a pervert to rest. I went in many years ago after finding a lump in my breast. The first thing my dr said to me was "did your husband discover it?" I found that very odd. Does it really matter how it was found? I thought maybe this was an article on how many spouses/significant others discovered lumps. After reading the article I see it's about a squeeze a day keeps the doctor away or something like that. I'm still leaning on the side of my dr is a pervert.
Posted by: Molly k. at December 19, 2012 03:38 AM (9Cfw6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:39 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 03:41 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Helping it burn. at December 19, 2012 07:37 AM (Gk3SS)
A cryptid. I should've known.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 03:41 AM (da5Wo)
That really is cool. I remember when I was up there. Probably shouldn't have worn the Bermuda shorts, though.
Posted by: pep at December 19, 2012 03:41 AM (USJNU)
We even get records of criminal acts and plans for terrorism recorded there.
I find the entire thing depressing.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 03:41 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at December 19, 2012 03:42 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Helen at December 19, 2012 03:43 AM (93bH6)
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 07:41 AM (GoIUi)
What is depressing is I bought a box of Little Debbie Honey buns for breakfast snacks this morning while on my 4 am jaunt to grocery store.
Each bun is 280 calories and after one you are still hungry.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:43 AM (53z96)
And frankly, I am not friends with the numerous commercial enterprises which clutter my timeline. I am sure there is a way to get rid of those, but again, I don't want to mess with it.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 03:45 AM (GoIUi)
I had a bowl of grits with some butter and a glass of juice.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 03:46 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 19, 2012 03:46 AM (+ksWj)
They sell your personal information to different companies.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:47 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 03:47 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 19, 2012 03:47 AM (1V6Pv)
Yet what we have in the US is not enough taxes, rather than a spending problem.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 19, 2012 03:48 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 07:46 AM (GoIUi)
I like grits as a side with eggs, ham, and other stuff. But I have to limit the number of eggs and sometimes is just not worth the effort to cook up all that stuff.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 03:49 AM (53z96)
You know, the difference between a pervert and an absolute gentleman is a millisecond delay between brain and mouth.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 19, 2012 03:50 AM (BeSEI)
Re the South Carolina move, I applaud them. They have figured out what so many conservatives fail to see - the law is nothing but a tool, useful only as a way to impute guilt. It has no force, except to the extent that men with guns will be sent to act to coerce those subject to it. Obama's administration breaks many laws every day of the year without shame and without consequence OF ANY KIND. So, fuck the law. It's now the rule of the strongest - first in terms of will and second in terms of guns. Obama and the leftards in general have the stronger will to power, and are trampling us to death without any regard for the law of God or Man. We have the strength of guns, so if one day we grow a pair and match or exceed their strength of will, we will triumph. Until then, we receive the ass raping that we allow them to give us.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 03:51 AM (jfeoD)
Posted by: Bruce at December 19, 2012 03:51 AM (Q6u7O)
Posted by: Retread at December 19, 2012 03:56 AM (zxitI)
Posted by: Jean at December 19, 2012 03:57 AM (tWctt)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 19, 2012 03:59 AM (1V6Pv)
115 -
You know, the difference between a pervert and an absolute gentleman is a millisecond delay between brain and mouth.
.................................
You are probably right.
Posted by: Molly k. at December 19, 2012 03:59 AM (9Cfw6)
L.I.B.
Posted by: DocJ at December 19, 2012 04:02 AM (A5uiv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:03 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Thorvald at December 19, 2012 07:59 AM (1V6Pv)
I believe you are right, and that is only in the best case scenario.
Alas - I fear that their most potent work - that of destroying our culture - has already eliminated any hope of restoration. The work needed to fix our nation's horrific problems would take the kind of ugly work that our kind generally cannot stomach, and lots of it. I think now it's just a count down to the eschaton, and the more time that passes the happier we will be to see this present age pass away. Thus, my allegiance to the LIB faction.
My advice to all is to forego having kids, strip as much wealth off of the rotting caracass of the America as you can, and give no aid or comfort to the enemy. If you're able to find greener pastures, go.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:05 AM (jfeoD)
1) 2012 was the year the media concluded its quest toward soviet-style propaganda. This will not change, regardless of "new media". This propaganda arm of the government works with the propaganda arms found both in schools and hundreds of government agencies, with their daily and never-ending "public interest" pronouncements.
2) The smothering, inescapable effect of Leftist government and reality-defying propaganda will lead to a gradual, massive opting out, including behavior considered lawless by the Left, but with no moral claim on the conscience of free men.
Prediction: the Left will grow stronger, and it will be many decades, if ever, that their over-reaching leads to fundamental change, the only change now feasible for free men.
Posted by: Tonawanda at December 19, 2012 04:05 AM (GeFHE)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:06 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 08:03 AM (XkWWK)
Well said. I hope that some progress can be made in this fashion, even if only to forestall the inevitable.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:06 AM (jfeoD)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:07 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 04:07 AM (53z96)
2) The smothering, inescapable effect of Leftist government and reality-defying propaganda will lead to a gradual, massive opting out, including behavior considered lawless by the Left, but with no moral claim on the conscience of free men.
Prediction: the Left will grow stronger, and it will be many decades, if ever, that their over-reaching leads to fundamental change, the only change now feasible for free men.
Posted by: Tonawanda at December 19, 2012 08:05 AM (GeFHE)
Great points. I've been saying since I was a teen ager that our side has the worst political propaganda branch in history. We suck at it, in part because we over estimate the intelligence of the mob. We, of all people, should know better than to do that.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:10 AM (jfeoD)
L.I.B.
He doesn't need them as he doesn't face another election so the only hope the old media have to win his attention is fawning, stepped up to saccharin level extremes.
Posted by: Retread at December 19, 2012 04:10 AM (zxitI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 08:07 AM (XkWWK)
Thank you for that. Finally - something positive. May he soon depart this mortal coil, the wretched monster. Let us hope that his replacement is less of a problem (not holding my breath).
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:12 AM (jfeoD)
Obamacare is blatantly unconstitutional, but thanks to a bunch of political lying assholes on the court we still have it.
And Obamacare is just one of literally thousands of laws that are unconstitutional.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 04:12 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Walkers! at December 19, 2012 04:13 AM (jWwDJ)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Burn you all to ashes, SMOD at December 19, 2012 04:13 AM (VtjlW)
The full court press is still on for gun control.
We need conservatives to speak up. Liberals are using the line that no one is trying to take guns away from hunters or target shooters, only the "assault rifles".
Hell, the president can ban hunting and target shooting. I wouldn't care. There are no constitutional protections for hunting or target shooting, so he could take an executive action or the congress can pass a law. But one thing he can't do is ban weapons built for the purpose of allowing civilians to protect themselves against a tyranical government.
Posted by: jwest at December 19, 2012 04:13 AM (ZDsRL)
I'm not going to blame any on our side that go that route, but between my conscience and God, I'm more comfortable with allowing the federal government and its supporters to destroy themselves than I am taking some cut for myself in the interrim.
If you're able to find greener pastures, go.
Good luck with that. Iceland might work, but I can't think of any continental nation that's going to be greener.
Posted by: Methos at December 19, 2012 04:14 AM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Retread at December 19, 2012 08:10 AM (zxitI)
Well, let's hope. It would not surprise me if the leftards started working on eliminating the 22nd Amendment. But rest assured - even if they can't run Barky again, they are even now working on his clone. They will have another Obama set up for the next cycle. Another smooth talking, hard-left minority will suddenly take the stage and make all the news media fucks cum in their pants. Then we'll have another petty tyrant in the white house.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:15 AM (jfeoD)
Posted by: Walkers! at December 19, 2012 04:17 AM (jWwDJ)
also for some reason they just had several goats on camera- I have the sound off so I don't know why
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:18 AM (8sCoq)
So the thread is only mostly dead?
Okay, I'll give you a topic. The conspiracy theory for the Aurora Evil Fuck and now the Newtown Evil Fuck is that their fathers are both wrapped up in the LIBOR scandal somehow. What fascinates me about this conspiracy theory is that it is trying to connect random events to an actual conspiracy. All the evidence seems to point to the fact that there was a conspiracy to manipulate LIBOR. So now the tinhat brigade is making a bigger conspiracy out of something that actually is one.
Which will only serve to discredit the actual conspiracy and those investigating it.
I don't know if this has any meaning other than that even a blind grassy knoll squirrel will sometimes fall over the second shooter.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Burn you all to ashes, SMOD at December 19, 2012 08:13 AM (VtjlW)
I have no idea wtf that means, but I like it.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 04:18 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 19, 2012 04:18 AM (JDIKC)
They might. As long as they're going after the 2nd, it's only a small typo to include the 22nd too.
Posted by: Retread at December 19, 2012 04:19 AM (zxitI)
I predict the Democrats will never nominate a white male again
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:19 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Walkers! at December 19, 2012 08:13 AM (jWwDJ)
Well, in the US we don't need to recruit muz scum. There are plenty of libtarded teachers to do that job without help.
But yeah - the UK is totally destroyed. It's a full on leftist hell hole now, with through-the-lookinglass level craziness. Rapists set free with a slap on the wrist and nothing more. Citizens who defend themselves in their homes are sent to prison and made to pay the criminals. All coming here - thanks to the Left.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:20 AM (jfeoD)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 04:21 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Burn you all to ashes, SMOD at December 19, 2012 04:22 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 19, 2012 04:22 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 19, 2012 08:18 AM (JDIKC)
Actually doing what SC and the other 5 States are doing is better. Make it illegal to enforce it and jail some federal assholes.
I go with the Thomas Jefferson interpretation of the Constitution and the courts. The courts are not the sole authority and not even the top authority.
The Constitution is a contract between the States and the States are the ultimate authority.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 04:23 AM (53z96)
Why worry about one amendment when you can trash the whole Constitution?
My worry is that our new masters in D.C. will adopt the Papa Doc Duvalier Approach and not bother with any of that time-wasting "election" shit. I'll bet they can gin up some support from Republicans in Congress, too.
In most circumstances, I'd be concerned that this is to tinfoil-hatty a notion but, somehow, clever Choom Boy has managed to exceed my worst fears up to now....
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 19, 2012 04:23 AM (yKUrR)
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 08:19 AM (8sCoq)
Agreed. I further predict that no white male will ever be president again. The population of single women and non-whites has reached critical mass, and ever day is blame-the-white-male day.
LIB
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:23 AM (jfeoD)
http://tinyurl.com/c2t8k3p
"Report recommends France legalize 'accelerated deaths'"
http://tinyurl.com/cnsw3na
What Hell have we wrought?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 07:30 AM (da5Wo)
national healthcare saved for those that deserve it.
Posted by: ette at December 19, 2012 04:23 AM (nqBYe)
I'm going to visit my friends' pages, wish them merry christmas/happy new year, let them know how they can contact me, then kill the account at the end of the year
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:24 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 08:23 AM (53z96)
Agreed.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 19, 2012 04:25 AM (jfeoD)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:26 AM (XkWWK)
Liberals, always bitching about something:
For free attendance at Wednesday morning's Gibson Amphitheatre service for Mexican singer Jenni Rivera, LiveNation is requiring fans to have both a credit card and a photo ID.
Says the OC Weekly: "Since there's a lot of young, undocumented and working poor who don't have credit cards and/or a matching photo ID to gain entrance, they won't be able to even attempt to be a part of the final farewell."
LAObserved
Boo hoo. Then go hold the funeral in Mexico City.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2012 04:26 AM (kdS6q)
I still want to massage Gretchen Carlson's thighs
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:26 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 04:27 AM (piMMO)
But requiring an ID to vote is racist.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 04:27 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Fritz at December 19, 2012 04:28 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:28 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 08:26 AM (8sCoq)
With your tongue?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 04:28 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Burn you all to ashes, SMOD at December 19, 2012 04:28 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:29 AM (XkWWK)
Also, the '94 "Assault Weapons" ban had nothing to do with machine guns nor their regulation. However, morons with a good memory may remember CNN showing footage of machine guns when doing a story on the AWB and some dude who got pissed off about it.
Posted by: Binders of Wombats at December 19, 2012 04:29 AM (iXzYv)
With your tongue?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 08:28 AM (da5Wo)
oh man I posted something beautiful and sweet and you made it tawdry
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:29 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Burn you all to ashes, SMOD at December 19, 2012 08:28 AM (VtjlW)
*muffled and echoey*
Does that mean I can get out of here? It smells. And is wet. And I'm not entirely sure I'm alone in here.....
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 04:29 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 04:29 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 19, 2012 04:30 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: ette at December 19, 2012 04:30 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 04:30 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Hopeless at December 19, 2012 04:31 AM (62WS0)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 19, 2012 04:32 AM (JDIKC)
I will be appropriating that for use in the very near future.
Is it copyrighted?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 04:32 AM (sbV1u)
In a recent change to the law one can not own on unless had it before 1986.
Machine guns are also treated differently. In 1986, as part of the Firearm Owners' Protection Act (FOPA), Congress prohibited individuals from owning machine guns, and made it an affirmative defense that the machine gun was registered before the act took effect (which was 5/19/86). See 18 USC sec. 922(o) for the law. Thus as an individual you can only legally own a machine gun that was registered before that date. Any registered after that date can only be owned by SOT's, law enforcement, and government entities.
http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIF1.html
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 04:33 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 04:33 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:33 AM (XkWWK)
Too early for you to be in the barrel, so....what did you do this time?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 04:34 AM (sbV1u)
No man they're right.
One time I was playing a violent video game and I realized that about two hours earlier I'd missed doing a thing that it wasn't possible to go back and do now that I'd done some other things, and I'd saved the game after I did all those things, so I'd have to start over to go back and do the thing I missed and it would take like all day to get back to where I was stuck.
In FURY!, I twisted the controller until it made a terrible crunchy sound. It still worked...but I was literally this close to executing a calmly rationalized plot to cut a ditch through a field of babies with an Uzi.
Not many people have enough self-control to stop short like that, when they're under the influence of violent video games.
Posted by: oblig. at December 19, 2012 04:34 AM (cePv8)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:35 AM (XkWWK)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 04:35 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 19, 2012 08:30 AM (JDIKC)
This is hardly the same thing as "tax scofflaws". This is the State taking action against a blatantly unconstitutional law.
But yes, it will be interesting to see what happens in the State that arrests and charges the first federal official.
Perhaps we will re-litigate the ultimate authority with respect to the Constitution in a more "aggressive" manner once again.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 04:36 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 08:29 AM (8sCoq)
*shrugs*
It's what I do.
Does this mean you are one of those evil IRS guys?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 08:33 AM (piMMO)
EoJ? Naw, he's Canadian.
*whispers*
And a theater major.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 04:36 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:36 AM (XkWWK)
COVER-UP
Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at December 19, 2012 04:37 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 04:37 AM (da5Wo)
Obama to Tap Biden to Oversee Gun-Control Efforts
This guy could fuck up a wet dream, so the logical conclusion is that Obama is not serious about this.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 04:38 AM (sbV1u)
it's striking that libs respond to to the shooting of innocents by advocating.... the shooting of more innocents
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:39 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: willy at December 19, 2012 04:39 AM (kUCQ4)
This guy could fuck up a wet dream, so the logical conclusion is that Obama is not serious about this.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 08:38 AM (sbV1u)
Or we could end up with a Nerf gun ban. I like my Nerf guns.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 19, 2012 04:39 AM (da5Wo)
This guy could fuck up a wet dream, so the logical conclusion is that Obama is not serious about this.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 08:38 AM (sbV1u)
Why mess with the "gravy train" by blowing up the tracks ?
Posted by: Baron Münchhausen at December 19, 2012 04:39 AM (e8kgV)
Tsk, tsk.
If you get the Queen some tea she's actually very lenient.
No, I don't mean walk to the stove and turn on the pot. I mean physically go to China, grow the tea (Silver Needle only) and bring it back.
Or....you can stay in the barrel.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 04:40 AM (sbV1u)
Later, mes frères et souers.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Please remember to shampoo.
Posted by: Retread at December 19, 2012 04:40 AM (zxitI)
Those are for the "professionals", and I'd like to see that change because it's a load of hooey.
Posted by: Binders of Wombats at December 19, 2012 04:40 AM (iXzYv)
Thinking about it now, this is the most likely outcome.
'Cause Joey likes pie.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 04:40 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Walkers! at December 19, 2012 04:41 AM (jWwDJ)
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:41 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 04:42 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 04:42 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 04:43 AM (XkWWK)
I hate it when I forget that materia in the sub base.
Posted by: Methos at December 19, 2012 04:43 AM (hO9ad)
Meanwhile, in the Golden State:
California already has a reputation as the nation's toughest gun-control state, but lawmakers are moving quickly to add further restrictions after last week's schoolhouse massacre.
State Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, vowed Tuesday to reintroduce legislation sidetracked last year that would ban devices allowing ammunition to be reloaded so quickly that semi-automatic weapons can be fired almost like assault weapons.
Yee also promised bills that would penalize Californians who fail to use gun locks they are required to possess, and would mandate that gun owners renew their registrations annually.
Other lawmakers are weighing other possibilities, such as a limit on the quantity of ammunition that can be purchased, or a mandate that lost or stolen firearms be reported quickly to local law enforcement.
State Sen. Kevin de León, D-Los Angeles, proposed Tuesday to require ammunition buyers to purchase annual permits that would cost about $50. The process would include a yearly background check.
Sacbee
Coming soon to a Blue State near you....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 19, 2012 04:43 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 19, 2012 08:40 AM (sbV1u)
Don't start that shit again! VPOTUS was once asked to judge a pie eating contest at a county fair. He loved it. But got a little confused. He started walking up to women all over the fair asking if he "could get a taste of their pie."
What a fucking nightmare.
Posted by: Secret Service Agent at December 19, 2012 04:44 AM (da5Wo)
Rosie, "Gravity! How does it wor..." *sploosh urk*
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2012 04:44 AM (QdVWw)
VERY curious, because from what I've read, the guy is in venture capital, a natural enemy of the media
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 19, 2012 04:45 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jocassee at December 19, 2012 04:46 AM (+xjLy)
Morning, all!
So, given my coppery hair, am I allowed to claim Tourette's the next time I'm at a company function and shout, "Fuck you!" when someone invariably starts cooing about Obammy?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 19, 2012 04:46 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Burn you all to ashes, SMOD at December 19, 2012 04:46 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Walkers! at December 19, 2012 04:47 AM (jWwDJ)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 04:48 AM (I2LwF)
Because he's a big executive at GE, I suspect. That, and scrutinizing one-parent households is racist.
And the "Lanza kid" was 20, and his parents divorced when he was 17. I'm not going to say teenage boys don't need their father, but I will say that 17-year-olds are different than 7-year-olds. For example, they can drive themselves to their father's house, if they can pass the written test and get a license.
Mostly I want to know how much money the father gave to Obama's campaigns.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 19, 2012 04:48 AM (/kI1Q)
Video – Golden Eagle tries to snatch toddler in Montreal park. It was sheer luck that the eagle did not do what a lot of raptors do and hit the kid hard enough to break his neck. (I see someone posted this last night but I will leave it here) I have seen a huge hawk come in and snatch a squirrel in my front yard myself.
My father watched one spiral around a tree in pursuit of a squirrel, which it promptly picked off before it got to its hole.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 19, 2012 04:49 AM (4df7R)
http://tinyurl.com/3kbo727
Posted by: DaveA at December 19, 2012 04:49 AM (Xefrb)
243 Good news, everyone! Time's person of the year is Barack Obama... again.
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 08:48 AM (I2LwF)
You gotta problem with that, cracka?
Posted by: NBPP at December 19, 2012 04:49 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2012 04:49 AM (QdVWw)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 04:50 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Pentangle at December 19, 2012 04:50 AM (t5xO4)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 19, 2012 08:48 AM (/kI1Q)
You know, as much as I'd like to NOT believe the media would be so ghoulish as to avoid discussing the father because of his ties to an Obammy moneypot, I nonetheless know it to be true. I know it in my bones.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 19, 2012 04:51 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 19, 2012 04:51 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2012 04:51 AM (QdVWw)
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 19, 2012 04:52 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 04:53 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 04:53 AM (piMMO)
I'm thinking a GE executive has some awfully deep pockets if the reports that they knew the son was a problem pan out.
Posted by: Methos at December 19, 2012 04:54 AM (hO9ad)
State nullification of 0Care is unconstitutional, huh?
That's fucking hysterical - a real knee slapper. We're so far of the Constitutional reservation these days that, well, it's meaningless anymore. Interpretation is completely arbitrary and totally in the hands of people who have tortured the language to make it mean whatever the fuck they want it to mean.
If we want it back, we're going to have to take it back. Hell, I'm okay with stealing it back if necessary. Limiting ourselves to Queensbury Rules in the face of an enemy (yes, they are now my enemy) who has always brought a nuclear warhead to a fistfight is utter madness. It has taken 100 years of increasingly unconstitutional actions to get to the shithole where we no find ourselves. It's logical to assume it may take a few unconstitutional tactics to crawl out of it. State nullification would be the least of it. There will have to be some very "ungentlemanly" tactics taken. Or we can just continue our slide into oblivion. Whatever. It's cool, right?
If you think it makes us no better than the other guys, I think you underestimate the depths of the totalitarian socialist mind and doubt the goodness of your own cause. Fuck them because they sure as hell can't wait to fuck you.
Posted by: Jaws at December 19, 2012 04:55 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 08:53 AM (piMMO)
One of these days I'd like to grab one of those stigma crybabies and say, "You know what? Sometimes the stigma is justified. And I'd say a Tiny Dick Babykiller like this asshole deserved a little bit of stigma."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 19, 2012 04:55 AM (4df7R)
Judge Robert Bork passed away this morning from heart complications.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 04:56 AM (GoIUi)
Mostly I want to know how much money the father gave to Obama's campaigns.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 19, 2012 08:48 AM
How it works....
The taxpayers borrow money from China and then it is funneled to G.E. and other entities where is is laundered and 10%-15% becomes political donations.
The Seattle Post Intelligencer (surprise, surprise) in 2004 did exhaustive research into the House and Senate showing which spending bills and laws were passed and by whom they were championed, who benefited and how much those representatives and senators received in donations by those benefited or entities tangential to them.
It was almost exactly 10% in all but a handful of cases.
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 19, 2012 04:57 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 19, 2012 04:57 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 08:56 AM (GoIUi)
So sad. Godspeed and God bless, sir.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 19, 2012 04:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Hopeless at December 19, 2012 04:58 AM (lhNul)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2012 04:58 AM (QdVWw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 19, 2012 05:00 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 19, 2012 05:00 AM (XkWWK)
(What Congo crisis is that?)
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 19, 2012 05:01 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 19, 2012 05:02 AM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Pentangle at December 19, 2012 05:03 AM (t5xO4)
Posted by: mrp at December 19, 2012 05:03 AM (HjPtV)
http://tinyurl.com/d2ojz4j
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2012 05:04 AM (QdVWw)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 19, 2012 05:05 AM (6gk77)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 19, 2012 05:05 AM (Jcd0S)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 19, 2012 05:06 AM (nHMBg)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 19, 2012 05:15 AM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Paladin at December 19, 2012 05:20 AM (QGbEp)
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Posted by: Walkers! at December 19, 2012 05:43 AM (jWwDJ)
South Carolina state legislators are proposing to nullify Obamacare by enacting criminal penalties for any state or federal official caught implementing it. This is a stupid, unconstitutional idea, as I wrote almost two years ago when nullification first came up in the context of Obamacare, but I bet you a beer these legislators think they're real smart.
Here's what Thomas Jefferson had to say on the subject:
in cases of an abuse of the delegated powers, the members of the general government, being chosen by the people, a change by the people would be the constitutional remedy; but, where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy: that every State has a natural right in cases not within the compact, (casus non fœderis) to nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power by others within their limits: that without this right, they would be under the dominion, absolute and unlimited, of whosoever might exercise this right of judgment for them: that nevertheless, this commonwealth, from motives of regard and respect for its co-States, has wished to communicate with them on the subject: that with them alone it is proper to communicate, they alone being parties to the compact, and solely authorized to judge in the last resort of the powers exercised under it
Translation: Nullification is Constitutional, bitches.
Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Actually Said at December 19, 2012 05:50 AM (oFH2D)
Gabe I posted that yesterday. And yes, SC did this....after 5 other States have done it. And it is not unconstitutional.
Don't respond because I will NEVER agree with you on this.
Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 06:59 AM (53z96)
Vic, I bet you a beer that Gabe thinks he's real smart. After all, he's a lawyer. And you and I are not.
Posted by: Minuteman at December 19, 2012 06:03 AM (lf7Pe)
Pretending that "the science is settled" when it comes to nullification is a lazy, cowardly way of saying "it's better and safer to live on your knees."
We face serious times, a choice as to whether we should be free men or subjects of a faceless bureaucracy and this is not the time to look to the rulebook: We are our own sovereign, we have merely temporarily granted power to the federal government--it has always been and will always remain our right to take it back.
The Declaration of Independence trumps both the Constitution and Lincoln.
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 19, 2012 06:14 AM (imtbm)
"284 At some point the states will have to stand up and assert their pre-Constitutional role as equal partners and protectors of their citizens."
True, the States must assert themselves, but as the pre-existing and pre-emminent entity holding sovereignty.
The Federal Government is not an equal partner to the States. It is a creation constituted by the States to act as an agent of the the States for issues common to all of the States.
Posted by: Minuteman at December 19, 2012 06:48 AM (lf7Pe)
SC state employees aren't Obama's lackeys. See Printz v. US.
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at December 19, 2012 07:35 AM (Y3JgK)
Posted by: Jordan at December 19, 2012 08:34 AM (Hz1zc)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at December 19, 2012 08:40 AM (gdGJ1)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 19, 2012 09:11 AM (w9BpZ)
Thomas Jefferson also owned human beings and raped them.
I do believe the jury is out on the second half of that statement.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 19, 2012 09:38 AM (zF6Iw)
In any event, I wouldn't go around comparing your level of influence to Jefferson's if I were you, shit-stain.
Posted by: Stuff Jefferson Actually Said at December 19, 2012 11:39 AM (oFH2D)
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Posted by: Vic at December 19, 2012 02:51 AM (53z96)