February 28, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Tuesday.
I don't have news links this morning, but here's a long-ish piece at The Street on why big companies continue to make stupid and obvious blunders. Bank of America, Netflix, Coke, and Verizon make appearances. Social media takes some of the blame, but the short version is that business people aren't very bright.
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Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:52 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:53 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:53 AM (YdQQY)
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Meanwhile the DC says it WAS a Chardon High School teen in their article. They gave a Facebook link but it has been pulled. (later article says it wasnÂ’t)
http://is.gd/Ar6R78
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:53 AM (YdQQY)
I got off much much cheaper, but still sunk thousands into an outdoor wedding which got rained on. I tried to get daughter to not have big wedding and instead take cash to help with setting up household. Cheaper for me, and more sense for her. No deal, she knew daddy would come through with household help anyway. I think in order to break this insane paradigm dad’s across the country are going to have to unite and start telling daughters at an early age – NO DAMN WEDDING PARTY.
http://is.gd/9fW8wO
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:54 AM (YdQQY)
http://is.gd/S1KjQ5
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:54 AM (YdQQY)
Quote:
“In South Carolina we can’t pass our own bills without [Obama] getting in the way. We pass illegal immigration reform, he stops it. We pass voter ID, he stops it. We get Boeing in, he stops it,” Haley said. “This president is trying to handle the entire country and he’s failing.”
http://is.gd/Q3GqJp
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:55 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:56 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:57 AM (YdQQY)
NYC paper link
http://is.gd/Eb8F3z
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:57 AM (YdQQY)
I recommend trashing that stupid highway project from NC to Myrtle Beach and spend that money. What you need from the feds is for them to allow using previous dredging studies in order to save money for useless crap for the EPA. But that will never happen either.
http://is.gd/4HSmHL
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)
LOL, looks like the History Channel will have some real history on this morning. The French Revolution followed by the War of 1812. I’ll have to watch that to see how much they screw it up. They then follow that with “Ax Men”.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:59 AM (YdQQY)
I hereby predict the official Republican media reaction to tonight's Michigan Primary results.
If Romney wins, it will be the greatest electoral triumph since Themistocles persuaded the Athenians to build their fleet. If Mitt loses, it was a meaningless beauty contest.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 28, 2012 03:02 AM (kdS6q)
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My theory on that is two parts. Some of it is notr really a "blunder". It is what the MFM pumps out that influences opinion. The other is how large companies most often promote people to positions of influence.
Dumb asses who can kiss ass the best.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Doom am I, full-ripe, dealing death to the worlds, engaged in devouring mankind. at February 28, 2012 03:03 AM (6Bzc0)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 03:09 AM (niZvt)
The Japanese government drew up plans to evacuate the 13 million residents of Tokyo as it feared a series of explosions at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in March of last year would be the end of the city.
The worst-case scenario was detailed in a report by an independent panel investigating the government's handling of the crisis.
The Telegraph
You should have seen the "WTF" look on the faces of the NHK newsreaders last night when they were reporting this story.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 28, 2012 03:13 AM (kdS6q)
http://is.gd/ZwBk4x
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)
Not sure if it's that or a "vocational" school in the more recent jargon. A report my wife heard said he came from a broken home. Watching that dimwit bint Ann Curry interviewing Chardon teens with dumbass questions makes me wish that she was the sole victim.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 03:16 AM (vc/De)
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Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 28, 2012 03:16 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 28, 2012 03:16 AM (GjDnP)
Related-stop whining about Romney and deep conspiracies. It's a bore.
Posted by: pep at February 28, 2012 03:22 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 03:25 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Timwi at February 28, 2012 03:28 AM (pdhxN)
He knows the right won't really like him, no matter what he does (and even in the case when he is one of them). His current task is just to win the primaries without putting himself in a position that alienates the middle that is his ticket to election.
Posted by: pep at February 28, 2012 03:28 AM (YXmuI)
Schultz was at least funny in dumbfuck kind of way and he would've never given such a self-serving pile of shit speech as the chinless cocksucker did at the House hearings, for which Issa just bent over and spread 'em.
Speaking of piles of shit, worthless turd Mike al-Moor is urging his fellow donk losers in Meeechigan to vote for Santorum. Not sure what that ambulatory cesspool thinks he's doing other than making an obscene pest out of himself; maybe he's angling for another seat beside senile fuck Dhimmi Carter at the convention with a free buffet and lap dance for adultery-of-the-heart.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 03:31 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: ombdz at February 28, 2012 03:33 AM (2DpoY)
Posted by: waelse1 at February 28, 2012 03:35 AM (1M81x)
Posted by: Hedgehog at February 28, 2012 03:37 AM (BpX7S)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 03:39 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Hedgehog at February 28, 2012 07:37 AM (BpX7S)
Is there any way you can make both of them just go the fuck away?
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 03:40 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: Laura Castellano, Mormon Moronette at February 28, 2012 03:42 AM (fuw6p)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at February 28, 2012 03:43 AM (yLfyz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 03:43 AM (niZvt)
Boy, it sure seems to help a lot if you have a D after your name when in the sights of the Holder DOJizzgobblers. I expect nothing to happen to anyone except the whistleblowers once again. It's very sad for us all that so many share my expectations about Justice nowadays.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 28, 2012 03:43 AM (ccXZP)
I also see problems with some of the "anti-bullying" instructions that are given to today's children and their parents (over and over and over and over and over). The libturds make it very very clear that if you are being "bullied" (I still think this is code word for the others have noticed you're gay and mention it) you should 1. Tell 2. Use words 3. Accept the premise (yes, I am heavier than I would like) 4. Act faggy
They insist that at no cost should the bully-ee react violently or in an aggressive way.
The extreme results are horrific. You can't tell some dorky kid that instead of getting undorky (play football, wrestle, take a marital art class, etc) and standing up to the bully potentially finding out shit about them and using it, that they should swallow the mistreatment until they go postal.
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 03:45 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: Insomniac at February 28, 2012 07:16 AM (GjDnP)
I know this is not the book thread, but the Peter Principle is a sociological classic and well worth the time required to read it. I still regret donating my copy to the government office I was consulting for at the time.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 28, 2012 03:45 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at February 28, 2012 03:45 AM (roASQ)
Posted by: San Antonio Rose at February 28, 2012 03:46 AM (yLfyz)
Posted by: Andy at February 28, 2012 03:48 AM (XG+Mn)
When a civilian federal agency creates its own Army, complete with armored vehicles it bypasses the act.
When people ask the 2nd amendment question where is the limit on what private citizens should be able to own, my answer is that they should be able to own whatever weapons and tools civilian agencies and the police can own. I don't need an F18 ...until the police or FBI own one too.
Posted by: dogfish at February 28, 2012 03:48 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at February 28, 2012 03:48 AM (roASQ)
http://tinyurl.com/89rraop
WUWT won the 2011 Weblog Award for best science blog. They earned it.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 28, 2012 03:49 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at February 28, 2012 03:53 AM (roASQ)
Big companies are bureaucracies that are often just as fucked-up as government. Policies get a life of their own, and often the PR/Communications/political people are not consulted before an obviously stupid business decision gets announced. Bank of America is a hopelessly huge and fucked up place. Everybody who works there has their resume out on the street. BTW, if you want to know why Ally Bank is going down the toilet (and it is still 65% owned by You and Me) it is now being run by a bunch of former B of A people.
I work for a second-tier bank and we have meticulous procedures for vetting new products, price and fee changes, and other policies. It's a PITA but it keeps us from doing anything stupid like the B of A $5 debit fee, at least not without a detailed communications and government relations plan around it.
Posted by: rockmom at February 28, 2012 03:53 AM (YPgCz)
Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at February 28, 2012 07:45 AM (roASQ)
It is well known (in the "right" circles), that only the government can infallibly always make the right decisions; however, it is also known in those circles that the people/workers/masses can screw up anything so that to the uninformed unintelligent uncredentialed observer it might "seem" that the original government decision was wrong.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 28, 2012 03:54 AM (i3+c5)
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Perhaps some of the female Moronettes can explain to us how daughters develop this insane expectation of a $25K party just because its a wedding.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 03:55 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 03:56 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 04:00 AM (Gc/Qi)
As for the stupid $5 service fee from BOA lets not forget that it originated from a stupid government mandate and nearly ALL of them did it. BOA just got most of the bad PR.
As I said earlier, the MFM media has a lot to do with what the perception of "bad" is.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:00 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 04:01 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: rockmom at February 28, 2012 07:53 AM (YPgCz)
I used to work for a second-tier bank at a time when they were going through one of their "let's bring all the consultants in-house" phases. The corporate culture was pretty stultifying and I was miserable until I left. That's not to denigrate a lot of the people I worked with though because some of them were extremely top-notch; more like a place that regulated is gonna be indistinguishable from a Kafka nightmare in so many things. The cottage industry that was formed around Sarbanes Oxley compliance would be exhibit A.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 04:01 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:02 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 07:55 AM (YdQQY)
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Solution? Do NOT let them marry until they are at least 28 years old and have been on their own for a while. By then they will usually understand the folly of spending all that money on a wedding.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 28, 2012 04:03 AM (8ieXv)
“I got off much much cheaper, but still sunk thousands into an outdoor wedding which got rained on.”
Our daughter didnÂ’t want the stress of a big wedding, so we ended up flying 40 family and guests to Vegas. We had the wedding and champagne at the Wynn (where all the rooms were) then dinner at Prime Steakhouse at the Bellagio. Afterwards, coffee, cake and drinks on the patio overlooking the fountain show.
No hassle. Everyone had a good time.
Posted by: jwest at February 28, 2012 04:03 AM (FdndL)
I was listening to some sheriffs discussing how Federal and State agencies will implement rules and statutes that violate the constitution and how there is no mechanism or oversight for these agencies to question themselves on whether or not they are violating our rights.
Posted by: Panzer Trout at February 28, 2012 04:03 AM (j5CHE)
Posted by: TheMoronthatworksforCoke at February 28, 2012 04:04 AM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 04:05 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: pep at February 28, 2012 04:05 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Jimmah at February 28, 2012 04:07 AM (845uI)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 28, 2012 04:08 AM (Ho2rs)
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My daughter was nearly 30 and she still expected this.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:08 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 08:00 AM (Gc/Qi)
Good luck with that happening. Actually I think it will be better than that because I think El JEFe is so unpopular that even Willard's exceedingly awkward manner of giving speeches won't be enough to derail him. And then he'll be a submediocre turd of a President like that fuckhead Poppy Bush unless there's enough of a Tea Party presence in both houses of Congress to get that pandering simpleton to do what's right.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 04:08 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 04:08 AM (I2LwF)
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My experience has been the exact opposite.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:09 AM (YdQQY)
It's a racket, plain and simple. Of course I don't care if other people want to blow loads of money on it. Have fun.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 28, 2012 04:09 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 04:10 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: McLovin at February 28, 2012 04:11 AM (j0IcY)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 04:13 AM (Wi8JV)
Still brighter (and more honest) than lawyers.
Gabe, did you actually read the article?
It's easy to poke fun at the very public mistakes of these companies, but the article also pointed out that the speed of business has increased immeasurably, and the challenges are incredible.
My take is that the market -- you know: capitalism -- drives business; and no amount of prognostication from marketers and pollsters can predict it. The invisible hand really exists.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 04:14 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 08:13 AM (Wi8JV)
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LOL, little girls are born with an umbilical cord attached to daddy's pack pocket. It never gets cut. I told my daughter she would get a car the same way I got my car, get a job and pay for it.
So far she has NEVER paid for a car yet. She bought one on her own but I wound up paying for it just like all the others.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:16 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 04:17 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 28, 2012 08:05 AM (niZvt)
I did subcontract work for the DOJ and this is true to an extent because we were forced to make sense of some of the most incomprehensible directives I've ever encountered, which is what happens when Congress just passes something broadly stated and leaves it up to the effected departments to design the specifics. It was the most depressing place I've ever worked and I hated every fucking second of it; I felt like I was in Hell and eating in the cafeteria was like immersing yourself in despair. There were some good people there but I can't see how they maintained their sanity beyond a point.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 04:17 AM (vc/De)
Scientists have discovered the Doozers from Fraggle Rock under New York City. http://tinyurl.com/72w6ml8
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 04:18 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 28, 2012 04:19 AM (hRH92)
Posted by: dananjcon at February 28, 2012 04:20 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Some other dope at February 28, 2012 04:21 AM (nI9t4)
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Think about that statement. One part of "the Government" tells another part of "the government" to do something impossible, but this is supposed to reflect unreasonable expectations of private parties and buisness?
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:21 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 04:22 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Fritz at February 28, 2012 04:22 AM (/ZZCn)
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Is that snark or do you really think I should stop calling Obama names?
Piss on Obama, the SOB is pure unadulterated evil.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:23 AM (YdQQY)
Re: asking agencies to do too much. I think this is key. The bigger they are, and the more they have to deal with the public the more stupid people they have to hire who are willing to deal with the general public. I don't know about you but I could deal with the general public for maybe, oh, 15 minutes, before I lost my fucking mind. They need to do less and be smaller. Hell, I even noticed that my son's small catholic highschool which is 6 times the size of my small prep school acts about 1000 times stupider. The reason is that they have to have general "rules" because their population is so much larger.
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 04:23 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 08:16 AM (YdQQY)
You're being way too fucking soft; my Hatettes learned early on that the way to my wallet was through Mrs H and even that has its limits. I went deep in the hole for my oldest Hatette's wedding since it was in NYC (and the one in India, which I didn't have to spring for, cost me out the wazz to fly everybody there; but once there I had the best fucking time ever after whining like a goddamn baby that I didn't want to go).
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 04:24 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at February 28, 2012 04:25 AM (MbeR6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 04:25 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 04:25 AM (u50z0)
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Yeah, that was the national average which includes people like me who had a civil ceremony that cost virtually nothing, They did say a lot of weddings were now costing upwards of $50K which is even more insane, even if you are filthy rich.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:27 AM (YdQQY)
Not a fair evaluation.
His evil is mixed with arrogance, laziness, stupidity, pomposity, tone deafness, and big ears.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 04:28 AM (nEUpB)
If my daughter wants a $25,000.00 wedding, she can pay for it.
Same goes for college.
Screw that shit I paid my for my own wedding amd my way through college.
True it only cost about <$1000.00 per year for college, but screw that.
Now I just need a daughter.
Posted by: McLovin at February 28, 2012 04:29 AM (j0IcY)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 04:29 AM (u50z0)
If you still live in NJ and are interested in a moron meetup, shoot us an e-mail at:
nynjmeet at optimum dot com.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 04:30 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 04:30 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 04:31 AM (Wi8JV)
My dad died when I was 29. He would have sawed off his own limbs and given them to me if I needed them. In return I was more careful with his money than with my own. In fact he would often buy me things: cars, trips, etc that not only had I not asked for but I didn't even know he knew about. He said that I always did my best and never "hurt his heart".
I go once a month and shine up his granite headstone in Arlington. He would have abjured the expense of flowers.
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 04:33 AM (u50z0)
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Daughters are almost always daddy's little girl and daddy's little girls always find some way to exploit this by wrapping them around their little fingers.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:34 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 04:34 AM (u50z0)
Now, I'm not fool enough to assume she'll never lower her, umm, inhibitions for any guy between now and then, but she's at least armed with knowledge, and that's never a bad thing.
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You may be pleasantly surprised at how this type of guidance from a dad to daughter really strikes home.
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2012 04:34 AM (jm/9g)
My neighbor is an asshole. The guy to yaks on his cell phone at a green light is an asshole.
Obama is much, much more.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 04:34 AM (nEUpB)
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Damn dagny you are going to make me cry this morning.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:35 AM (YdQQY)
Some of it has rubbed off on you.
[ducks and runs]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 04:36 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 04:36 AM (Wi8JV)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 08:31 AM (Wi8JV)
They both have bought their own cars with my only input being responding to "does this sound like a lemon".
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 04:37 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: Jean at February 28, 2012 04:38 AM (elbGQ)
[ducks and runs]
You'd better move faster.
122 110The New York city italians spend somewhere around $50-75 K<<<Yeah, but most of that is just laser hair removal for the bride. My sons complain about how early and often they have to shave. I tell 'em it's ok, if they were girls they'd have to too.
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 04:39 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: Chris at February 28, 2012 04:39 AM (XGZYX)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 28, 2012 04:42 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Andy at February 28, 2012 04:42 AM (hQjR/)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 08:36 AM (Wi8JV)
LOL. I wish there was a moron television station where commercials for laser joints could end with the "bikini area" descriptions and just say "trim your cooter".
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 04:43 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 28, 2012 04:43 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 28, 2012 04:44 AM (Ho2rs)
Dagny, tell me about it. I married a dago. When she first tried breastfeeding, our half-wop kid wouldn't latch on and finally the doctor told her to stop shaving her chest and that fixed it.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 04:44 AM (Wi8JV)
The longish version is ...
Academia in general is churning out "graduates" who are less bright every year. Think I saw a Dr. Helen post headline yesterday saying something along the lines of a college degree today being functionally equivalent to a H.S. diploma of 1950. That sounds right, as Insty might say.
So (as some dildo accurately points out, above), technology is getting faster ... while those using it are getting slower, and increasingly depending on (sometimes flawed) tech to do their thinking for them. Doctors using PDAs for diagnosis, investment jockeys using computer analysis to make decisions, psychiatrists using online DSM to prescribe drugs, engineers depending on software for their designs, etc., etc., ... it all adds up. I maintain legacy software as a vocation - these tools are not as reliable as they could or should be, and those using them are not nearly as adept as they should be at recognizing when things don't make sense. And as things move even faster, the risk of making bigger mistakes increases.
Hard to justify devoting much time or energy to what's happening politically in the nation, when - no matter who 'wins' - the U.S. will be saddled with a largely dysfunctional workforce in another 20 years.
Posted by: goy at February 28, 2012 04:45 AM (6bwIq)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 08:42 AM (u50z0)
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Monty is on a sabbatical for a while. No doom or book thread.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:46 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Andy at February 28, 2012 04:46 AM (hQjR/)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- A big drop in business spending on machinery and equipment helped pushed orders for long-lasting manufacturing goods down in January by the largest amount in three years.
The Commerce Department says orders for durable goods - products that are expected to last at least three years - fell 4 percent last month.
It's just a flesh wound.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 28, 2012 04:47 AM (ccXZP)
When you have one daughter, you follow the advice in “Father of the Bride” and just suck it up. Your only purpose in life is to make sure everything is just the way she envisioned it and to write the checks.
Posted by: jwest at February 28, 2012 04:49 AM (FdndL)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 04:49 AM (u50z0)
I sure wish I could figure out this line break problem.
Posted by: jwest at February 28, 2012 04:50 AM (FdndL)
Posted by: Truman North wants a alcohol at February 28, 2012 04:53 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:53 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Jose at February 28, 2012 04:54 AM (e8kgV)
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Double or triple hard returns.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:54 AM (YdQQY)
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As I said, its a head fake.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 04:55 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 04:57 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 04:58 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 04:59 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Chris at February 28, 2012 04:59 AM (XGZYX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 04:59 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Andy at February 28, 2012 05:00 AM (hQjR/)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 28, 2012 05:02 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Gordon Gekko at February 28, 2012 05:02 AM (e8kgV)
Watched the Datona 500 last night for the first time in years. Rather boring. Takeaways:
1. Most of the race is determined prior to the competetion.
2. Your car must be highly competitive, because how you qualify determines where you end up in the field (I suppose), and to have a shot, you must be near the front because there ain't much passing.
3 Most of the wrecks tend to occur in the middle of the pack, where everybody is jammed up. You don't want to be there.
4. Most of the cars seem to be within 1-2% of each other in performance.
5. If you are near the front from the start, have a fast car, avoid crashing, and get a bit of luck during cautions, restarts and pit stops, you win.
It all adds up to watching a bunch of cars circle a track at the same speed and position for lap after lap with the only change ups occurring during crashes, cautions and restarts. Pretty dull if you ask me.
Posted by: maddogg at February 28, 2012 05:03 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 28, 2012 05:04 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 28, 2012 05:05 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:05 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 05:06 AM (YdQQY)
Become a Dentist and have to deal with asshole patients and the Doom Thread will soon become the highlight of your day<<<
If you're constantly dealing with assholes as a dentist, you need to scoot your stool to the other end of the exam chair. That will probably fix it. Don't be embarrassed - sometimes we can't see the problem because we're too close to it.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 05:07 AM (Wi8JV)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:08 AM (I2LwF)
Now, however, they're singing a different tune: it turns out the President has no control over gas prices- even when he takes measures that are sure to decrease global oil supplies.
So, my question is this: Were they lying then, are they lying now, or are they just finally admitting that GW Bush was a better, more competent President than the SCOAMT?
Follow-up question: how do we get Republicans to start asking that question where people will hear it?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 28, 2012 05:09 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:10 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 05:12 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 05:13 AM (Gc/Qi)
I sure wish I could figure out this line break problem.
Posted by: jwest at February 28, 2012 08:50 AM (FdndL)
Copy and type everything into notepad first and then cut and paste it into the comments window. It works like a charm.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at February 28, 2012 05:15 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 09:13 AM (Gc/Qi)
So...you're a hooker in Washington DC?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 05:15 AM (nEUpB)
They cancelled our most listened to station "Fine Tuning" without even conducting a customer survey. They just said f#ck you if you don't like it.
That and bankrupting the whole enterprise by gicing krazy money to H. F#cking Stern.
F#ck XM and the satellites bandwidth it occupies.
Posted by: sTevo at February 28, 2012 05:15 AM (trRr5)
McLaughlin style answer:
Though gasoline is nearly as expensive as at its peak under George Bush, in real dollars, it is considerably cheaper.
Thank you, Ben Bernanke!
Posted by: What the Dems won't say at February 28, 2012 05:16 AM (vRSeu)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 05:17 AM (Wi8JV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 05:18 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: SurferDoc at February 28, 2012 05:18 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 05:18 AM (9rKrC)
Fuck the Davidians! Bunch of baby diddling murderers. They had no right to shoot those officers. I also have to wonder why people defend a fucking cult where the head guy fucks the wives and 12 year old daughters of the members.
I know, right? Some religions just make no sense.
Posted by: A bunch of muslims at February 28, 2012 05:19 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 28, 2012 05:20 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 05:20 AM (Gc/Qi)
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http://tinyurl.com/722okrg
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The rich are evil!!111!!!111
Posted by: dananjcon at February 28, 2012 09:14 AM (8ieXv)
The point of the "study" is that rich people are evil unless of course if they are big mouth liberals then they are just ever so wonderful
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 28, 2012 05:21 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: maddogg at February 28, 2012 05:21 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 05:21 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:22 AM (I2LwF)
Follow-up question: how do we get Republicans to start asking that question where people will hear it?
Cattle prod? Stompyboot to the throat? Sprinkling magic dust over them?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at February 28, 2012 05:23 AM (VtjlW)
Fuck the Davidians! Bunch of baby diddling murderers. They had no right to shoot those officers. I also have to wonder why people defend a fucking cult where the head guy fucks the wives and 12 year old daughters of the members.
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 09:18 AM (9rKrC)
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Meh...sounds like a good gig if you can get it.
Posted by: R. Polanski at February 28, 2012 05:23 AM (8ieXv)
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It will be worth it to see Romney lose to the SCOAMF and demonstrate to the establishment that moderate candidates can't win. Moderates have far too much control over the party and they need to be put in their place.
Posted by: Reverse Cowgirl at February 28, 2012 05:23 AM (AQD6a)
What's currently pissing me off to no end is that Obama is trying to take away my father's Tricare:
Trashing Tricare
Obama to cut healthcare benefits for active duty and retired US military
The Obama administrationÂ’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workersÂ’ benefits untouched. The proposal is causing a major rift within the Pentagon, according to U.S. officials. Several congressional aides suggested the move is designed to increase the enrollment in ObamacareÂ’s state-run insurance exchanges.
The disparity in treatment between civilian and uniformed personnel is causing a backlash within the military that could undermine recruitment and retention.
The proposed increases in health care payments by service members, which must be approved by Congress, are part of the PentagonÂ’s $487 billion cut in spending. It seeks to save $1.8 billion from the Tricare medical system in the fiscal 2013 budget, and $12.9 billion by 2017.
http://freebeacon.com/trashing-tricare/
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at February 28, 2012 05:24 AM (7+pP9)
It all adds up to watching a bunch of cars circle a track at the same speed and position for lap after lap with the only change ups occurring during crashes, cautions and restarts. Pretty dull if you ask me.
Yeah but every so often things catch on fire.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at February 28, 2012 05:25 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 09:18 AM (9rKrC)
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So, the 25 children under 15 who were burned to death at Waco had it coming?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 28, 2012 05:25 AM (AQD6a)
The point of the "study" is that rich people are evil unless of course if they are big mouth liberals then they are just ever so wonderful
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 28, 2012 09:21 AM (1Jaio)
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Exhibit A:
Posted by: dananjcon at February 28, 2012 05:25 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at February 28, 2012 09:12 AM (phlKA)
Remember when Lotus brought out that space-eating pile of shit Symphony? What a useless fucking hog that was. There was one dipshit coworker who used to fill up floppys with that garbage; we just laughed at him and told him nobody in their right mind would ever bother with it. I don't know if they could've held out against Excel but that certainly didn't help them stave off the day of reckoning.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 05:26 AM (vc/De)
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Yeah insurance companies. I ran into that yesterday. I was told BCBS would consider my wife's teeth removal due to impending radiation treatments to be dentle work which falls under "dental insurance" and not medical even though it is part of an overall cancer treatment program.
The difference? dental insurance covers very little and tops out at an almost negligible amount.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 05:26 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 05:26 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 05:27 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 05:29 AM (9rKrC)
Mostly peaceful my ass OWS army assaults cops in Sacramento; throws bottles of urine.
Fucking monkeys. http://tinyurl.com/7x752fu
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:29 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 09:18 AM (9rKrC)
I don't think anybody defends that fucking nutjob so much as badmouths the DOJ led by Shakes Reno for the hamhanded way they torched the children in order to save them.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 05:29 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 05:29 AM (Gc/Qi)
The breathless sobbing interviews of any kid caught within 10 square miles of a camera (and not necessarily a gun) are so cliche by now they are like A+E Intervention repeats.
And the Chief LEO fool's press conference urging parents to "hug your kids"?
Really?
Posted by: ontherocks at February 28, 2012 05:29 AM (ZJCDy)
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I am starting a new job next month and my insurance options are United Health Care, Aetna, and BCBS. Recommendations?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 28, 2012 05:30 AM (AQD6a)
My guess is that Obama has a particular dislike for the military because many of its members display personal courage, honor and integrity: something that Obama has never done.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at February 28, 2012 05:30 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:30 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 05:30 AM (Wi8JV)
Was it the movie "Red State" that ran a similar scenario?
Posted by: sTevo at February 28, 2012 05:31 AM (trRr5)
A liberal was telling me that the rich paying a "fair share" is not good enough. He said that in business/life fair is only average. The rich need to pay a good/better share of their wealth in tax. WTF??
Posted by: Brian at February 28, 2012 05:33 AM (uhPd1)
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I was trying to make a similar point sarcastically. The Mods have been saying, "If Santorum wins the nomination and loses to the SCOAMF, the party should eschew the socon agenda and tell the socons to take a hike."
As if the GOP can ever win anything without the support of social conservatives.
Posted by: Reverse Cowgirl at February 28, 2012 05:33 AM (AQD6a)
It's as if Barry is a rabid anti-American POS with a vendetta against the country. Nah, that can't be true.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 28, 2012 05:33 AM (1Jaio)
BCBS is one of the worst and the worst to deal with also
I told them once that I hoped they were in a very secure facility because I'm sure someone is going to try to kill them all one day. My husband actually went and got a judge to issue an order to make them admit they had received some materials.
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:33 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 05:34 AM (9rKrC)
Posted by: t-bird at February 28, 2012 05:34 AM (FcR7P)
You should be in NE Ohio; the provincial assholes on the Orwellian nightmare local stations are milking this "moment in the spotlight" for all it's worth and then some. Breathless reports from the "experts" who are great at 20/20 hindsight but who never seem to prevent any of these things from happening despite "the clues were there for anyone to see".
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 05:35 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 05:35 AM (Gc/Qi)
Yeah, because adult women are chattel. Very Islamic.
Given that young men these days prefer not to marry (well...not women, anyway), the wedding problem should solve itself.
My parents took all my birthday and Christmas cash throughout my childhood and put it in CDs for my wedding expenses. I don't know what happened to it; they stopped mentioning it when I officially became a worthless washed-up old maid at 24.
Right now, they're throwing their retirement money into bailing out my brother's debt from his six-month gay marriage. Dudes managed to blow over $20k on honeymoon and electronics (that got destroyed) before splitting up. Stupidity has no gender.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 28, 2012 05:35 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:36 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: McLovin at February 28, 2012 05:36 AM (j0IcY)
Here is the outrage. See if you can find it:
"The Obama administrationÂ’s proposed defense budget calls for military families and retirees to pay sharply more for their healthcare, while leaving unionized civilian defense workersÂ’ benefits untouched."
Posted by: mama winger at February 28, 2012 05:36 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2012 05:36 AM (i6RpT)
Interesting:
U.S. report: Fuel markets 'significantly impacted' by refinery shutdown
The U.S. Energy Department on Monday said fuel markets in the Northeast "could be significantly impacted" if Sunoco closes its Philadelphia refinery in June, leading to tight supplies and price spikes is some areas.
The report by the U.S. Energy Information Administration said that supplies of ultra-low sulfur diesel would be most affected by refinery shutdowns and transportation constraints.
"If the Sunoco Philadelphia refinery closes, price impacts are highly uncertain," said the report. "If areas cannot be adequately supplied in the short term, prices can spike."
The Energy Department report adds a new element to an increasingly sharp national debate over rising fuel costs - a hot-button political issue in the presidential campaign.
Markets have been able to accommodate the closure of the ConocoPhillips refinery in Trainer closed in September and Sunoco's Marcus Hook refinery shut down in December, the Energy Department said, partly offset by the startup of a Delaware City refinery in October after a two-year hiatus during a change of ownership.
But the potential loss of the Sunoco Philadelphia refinery "presents a complex supply challenge, and no single solution has been identified by industry participants that will address all of the logistical hurdles that must be overcome."
Pittsburgh and western New York state, which now are supplied through pipelines from the Philadelphia refineries, would most likely suffer dearly if supplies of diesel and heating oil were constrained.
http://tinyurl.com/6lzppkf
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If it means Obama losing, I say shut it down.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at February 28, 2012 05:36 AM (7+pP9)
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We had united for a while. It was worse than BCBS by far. A lot of doctors started refusing to accept it. The company had to discontinue using it. Never had any experience with Aetna.
As for actual medical issues I generally didn't have any problems with BCBS and this one may get worked out.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 05:36 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at February 28, 2012 05:37 AM (qCR9V)
Posted by: Brian at February 28, 2012 09:33 AM (uhPd1)
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Beck was doing a bit yesterday where thay read through a list of OWS grievances that ran the gammut of petty to out right rediculous. I'm gonna try and find it...BRB.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 28, 2012 05:37 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 28, 2012 05:39 AM (hiMsy)
"Unionized"
Husband is a defense dept employee but "unionized" is an entirely different ball of wax---Obama's usual constituency
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:39 AM (u50z0)
Right now, they're throwing their retirement money into bailing out my brother's debt from his six-month gay marriage. Dudes managed to blow over $20k on honeymoon and electronics (that got destroyed) before splitting up. Stupidity has no gender.
<<<
Speechless.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 28, 2012 05:39 AM (Wi8JV)
Then they'll fine him for having "insufficient" insurance.
But look! Mooch took an hour off from shoveling french fries down her maw to photo op some soldiers' kids!
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 28, 2012 05:39 AM (ZKzrr)
Republicans are making a big mistake with this contraception talk, and I'm pretty sure that they are giving (the election) to Obama," says Patricia Speyerer, 87, of McComb, Miss., a GOP-leaning independent. "It's a stupid thing."
"Well, I'm a Roman Catholic, too," said Speyerer. She recalls that in 1940s New Orleans, where she was born and married, it was illegal to publish anything about birth control, "and I don't want to see that happen again."
An 87 year old "Republican leaning independent" who's number one issue is birth control. I'd love to see this Independent's voting record.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 28, 2012 05:41 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:41 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:42 AM (u50z0)
No porn links, people!
Fucking monkeys. http : // tinyurl...
Posted by: fluffy keeps it clean at February 28, 2012 05:42 AM (vRSeu)
It's expensive buying presents for great-grandkids. Better to not have any.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 28, 2012 05:43 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: mama winger at February 28, 2012 05:43 AM (P6QsQ)
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Anyone in the South who is age 70 or older is most likely a lifelong Democrat.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 05:44 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:44 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 09:34 AM (9rKrC)
I'm confused; are you saying the Branch Davidians are the worst people in the history of the world and the DOJ is the largest collection of standup people who only do good and should never be questioned even when they appear to massively fuck up?
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 05:45 AM (vc/De)
I have known people who had BCBS and Aetna health insurance and still went bankrupt due to medical bills. All of the health insurance companies are scared of Obamacare and doing what they can to avoid paying medical bills. The dam government is messing it all up.
Posted by: Brian at February 28, 2012 05:45 AM (uhPd1)
Hahah...from the comments at http://tinyurl.com/3doym5n
*Tery Wallace - Friday, September 30, 2011 at 12:01 PMProsecute the Bush cartel...ALL of them....They are equal to Hitler!....Almost the same amount of deaths because of them....
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intelligent american - Friday, September 30, 2011 at 01:33 PMThe truth about 9/11 and how it was purposefully planned and allowed to happen to cause our current
Posted by: dananjcon at February 28, 2012 05:46 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 05:46 AM (Gc/Qi)
Why I love Philly:
Philly Man Linked To Five Shootings
Philadelphia police say they know who shot two innocent men in West Philly on New Year's Eve, and have linked him to five shooting victims since early this year.
While police offer a reward to find Raheem Kareem, Fox 29 wants to know why he was even out on the street.
Ronald Washington, 69 knows he's lucky to be alive. He was shot twice in the back as he rode his motorized wheelchair down a street back in December .
Police now believe Kareem shot him and also shot four other people in the past two months.
Washington was an innocent bystander caught in the cross fire when Kareem, 23, fired off eight shots at two men standing on the corner back on December 30th.
Washington was wounded along with another innocent bystander, an 81-year-old man, was struck in the head.
Police say Kareem had just shot two other people at 43rd and Pennsgrove the day before.
Kareem has 11 prior arrests, including one for attempted murder and weapons offenses.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at February 28, 2012 05:46 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 28, 2012 05:47 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:47 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 05:48 AM (9rKrC)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:49 AM (u50z0)
My family was not well off. I didn't get married until I was 29 and my conscience would never have allowed me to ask my father to foot the wedding day bill. I just wouldn't have felt right. My husband and I paid for it ourselves and kept it on the small side. I still had the dress, the bridesmaids, the catered food, but it was more in the $5K range....19 years ago.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 28, 2012 05:50 AM (F+Xfj)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:51 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 05:51 AM (u50z0)
My husband and I paid for it ourselves and kept it on the small side. I still had the dress, the bridesmaids, the catered food, but it was more in the $5K range....19 years ago.
If you'd killed him on your wedding night, you'd already be on parole.
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:51 AM (I2LwF)
UHC unless you're in Texas, then BCBS. Each BCBS is a separate entity (even when they're owned by the same holding company, as happens occasionally), and the one here in TX is about the best. I say this both as a former employee, and a former customer.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at February 28, 2012 05:52 AM (8y9MW)
Sounds like a Republican primary.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 28, 2012 05:52 AM (AQD6a)
Posted by: Truman North at February 28, 2012 05:53 AM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Brian at February 28, 2012 05:54 AM (uhPd1)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 05:54 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: texette at February 28, 2012 05:57 AM (zt3lR)
Posted by: Moron with radio at February 28, 2012 05:57 AM (v/itI)
Posted by: joncelli at February 28, 2012 05:58 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 28, 2012 05:59 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 09:48 AM (9rKrC)
Thanks for that calm and considered response which I obviously deserved.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 05:59 AM (vc/De)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 09:54 AM (Gc/Qi)
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Luap Nor's thunder hardest hit.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 28, 2012 05:59 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 06:00 AM (u50z0)
Fuck you and your bullshit conspiracy theories. They murdered those officers and they started the fires themselves.
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 09:48 AM (9rKrC)
There was no need for the raid. Koresh went to town every week to get his mail. It was a weekly routine and the ATF knew it. The ATF could have simply arrested him during one of his weekly trips. They were faced with possible funding cuts, however, so they decided to put on a show. A show against a known heavily armed, paranoid, apocalyptic cult.
It was a dumbass move by the ATF that resulted in the unnecessary loss of many lives. Simple as that.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at February 28, 2012 06:00 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: McLovin at February 28, 2012 06:04 AM (j0IcY)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 09:48 AM (9rKrC)
So in summation your simplistic interpretation of a pretty complicated scenario is contained in in 2 sentences, one of which is just a sloppy insult?
Pretty silly stuff.
No unnecessary Government intervention with an MFM enabled greater good narrative for a dem (Statist) administration?
Open your eyes.
Posted by: ontherocks at February 28, 2012 06:05 AM (ZJCDy)
Wonder if more is going on here than meets the eye?
Posted by: ontherocks at February 28, 2012 06:08 AM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 06:09 AM (9rKrC)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 06:09 AM (9rKrC)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 06:12 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 10:12 AM (Gc/Qi)
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If ATF learned anything from Waco, Fast and Furious never would have happened.
If the Government had learned anything from Waco, the ATF would have been shut down.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 28, 2012 06:15 AM (AQD6a)
Posted by: dagny at February 28, 2012 09:42 AM (u50z0)
I'm betting it was extremely tasteful, though.
Posted by: joncelli at February 28, 2012 06:17 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at February 28, 2012 06:18 AM (qCR9V)
Waco should never have happened at all. That situation could have been handled by the simple expedient of establishing a secure perimeter AROUND the compound, cutting power and then simply waiting. The topography is tailor made for such a solution.
Posted by: irongrampa at February 28, 2012 06:23 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: artemis at February 28, 2012 06:26 AM (2XMD1)
Posted by: BurtTC at February 28, 2012 06:27 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Hedgehog at February 28, 2012 07:37 AM (BpX7S)
Ask them why the Feds don't seem interested in stopping the $60 billion a year in Medicare fraud.
Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at February 28, 2012 06:29 AM (mP3uM)
Posted by: texette at February 28, 2012 06:30 AM (zt3lR)
Since the feds would never treat a moooooooooooooslim hangout the same way, your point is moot.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 06:32 AM (vc/De)
"There was no need for the raid. Koresh went to town every week to get his mail. It was a weekly routine and the ATF knew it. The ATF could have simply arrested him during one of his weekly trips."
That is very true. So how many persons wound up losing their lives because of this mistake?
Posted by: HH at February 28, 2012 06:35 AM (KB0hv)
And since it's invisible you won't know if you're going to get the back or the job of it til after product launch.
Posted by: DaveA at February 28, 2012 06:38 AM (2eUbq)
Erickson is right, this "oh, the GOP is making the women angry, we better back off" is the same crap they pulled about the "Party of No."
I remember, you couldn't sling a dead cat 'round the internets without some "GOP" source fretting about how the Republicans mustn't get trapped by the label "Party of No." And every Dem in front of a microphone dutifully repeated the phrase to give it traction. Funny how that is exactly what the base wanted. Too bad the crying bitch and the spineless fuck delivered up the "Party of Well, Maybe. Let's Negotiate What We Will Give Up."
Posted by: Jimmuy at February 28, 2012 06:38 AM (9j9sT)
Posted by: jewishodysseus at February 28, 2012 06:42 AM (rYmVv)
Not a NASCAR guy but...
Those small %s are tough to get, add up and in a very dynamic environment.
The rules are made to keep it tight because over 500 miles 1% every lap would be a runaway.
In NHRA/IHRA Pro-stock vs. Top Fuel you can really see the little bits having different effect. Pro-Stock (basically 118 octane WWII av-gas in big ass 500 cid V8s making ~800 hp) they do everything they can to get every little bit and the pro's typically win/lose by a few feet. If everything car & driver works perfect the difference can be a breeze or a little extra sand on one lane. In Top Fuel (80-95+% nitro in blown 500 cid Al V8 making ~8000hp) the same minor differences get magnified into dozens of feet or often finish vs. spin the tires and shut it off before something goes really wrong.
Posted by: DaveA at February 28, 2012 07:00 AM (2eUbq)
Someone found Obama's uncle's personal web site from 2001. BEFORE it was abruptly pulled down just a year later.
Deconstructing Obama and his handlers: The Clintons and Bushes. Organized crime. Turns out Obama even has a Saudi Arabian cousin, Abdullah al Ahmadi, who worked for Saudi Aramco.
Posted by: HemHaw at February 28, 2012 07:03 AM (TySpk)
All 8 chapters are wow.
Someone found Obama's uncle's personal web site from 2001: http://tinyurl.com/7kpjefu
BEFORE it was abruptly pulled down just a year later.
Deconstructing Obama and his handlers: The Clintons and Bushes. Organized crime. Turns out Obama even has a Saudi Arabian cousin, Abdullah al Ahmadi, who worked for Saudi Aramco.
(sorry for the duplicate post...none of my links showed the first time...)
Posted by: HemHaw at February 28, 2012 07:06 AM (TySpk)
Posted by: mike at February 28, 2012 07:11 AM (9rKrC)
I am starting a new job next month and my insurance options are United Health Care, Aetna, and BCBS. Recommendations?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 28, 2012 09:30 AM (AQD6a)
I've done all right with United. Which product will you be under?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 28, 2012 07:23 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: rockmom at February 28, 2012 07:26 AM (YPgCz)
Posted by: joncelli at February 28, 2012 10:17 AM (RD7QR)
FIFY
Posted by: Insomniac at February 28, 2012 07:26 AM (v+QvA)
Do you know if that rotten POS Schmidt is involved with any Repuke campaigns?
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 28, 2012 07:33 AM (vc/De)
"Well, I'm a Roman Catholic, too," said Speyerer. She recalls that in
1940s New Orleans, where she was born and married, it was illegal to
publish anything about birth control, "and I don't want to see that
happen again."
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Um, yeah, because like that is what the current debate is all about!
Posted by: Jay at February 28, 2012 08:18 AM (3LaGb)
but the short version is that business people aren't very bright.
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Yeah Gabe, those people in for profit enterprises just aren't as smart as lawyers working for state agencies.
Steve Jobs was like a big dummy!
Posted by: Jay at February 28, 2012 08:25 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: Y-not at February 28, 2012 08:30 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at February 28, 2012 08:35 AM (5H6zj)
Third look at bacon-induced coma?
Posted by: Karusky at February 28, 2012 08:39 AM (dKyuh)
Posted by: Y-not at February 28, 2012 08:42 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Y-not at February 28, 2012 08:44 AM (5H6zj)
When is Ken Lewis going to be taken to the cleaners for what he did to Bank of America?
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 28, 2012 10:04 AM (1rHeD)
Posted by: steevy at February 28, 2012 01:46 PM (7W3wI)
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That being said there was a reason that Posse Comitatus was enacted. But that act has been severely watered down and it only applied to the Army. When a civilian federal agency creates its own Army, complete with armored vehicles it bypasses the act.
Posted by: Vic at February 28, 2012 02:52 AM (YdQQY)