March 15, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Thursday.
Santorum went to San Juan, Puerto Rico yesterday, where he told a newspaper, El Vocero, that Puerto Rico should only gain statehood if the territory makes English its main language.
"As in any other state, you have to comply with this and any federal law. And that is that English has to be the main language," Santorum told the paper. "There are other states with more than one language as is the case in Hawaii, but to be a state in the United States, English has to be the main language."
Santorum is apparently unaware that English is compulsory in Puerto Rican schools from first through twelfth grade. He's also apparently unaware that there is no federal law that says that "English has to be the main language." The immediate response of the newspaper staff should have been: "Just what language do you think you're speaking with us right now, idiota?"
Santorum then went to a town hall where he charmingly referred to himself as "Senator Puertorriqueño." Next it was off to an evangelical church on the 85% Catholic island where he campaigned on social issues again. But please, he's really tired of the media always bringing up social issues.
There are 20 Puerto Rican delegates at stake in Sunday's primary. If a candidate wins a majority, he takes all 20 delegates. If no candidate wins a majority, delegates will be awarded proportionally to each candidate who gets more than 15% of the vote.
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Ball called police, who arrived with shotguns, but the bear had already made its escape into the surrounding hills.
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Shotguns on a 500 pound bear?
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Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)
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One thing the bill doesn't do is resolve how to keep the federal Highway Trust Fund solvent beyond next year. The largest source of money for the fund, which pays for highway and transit programs, is federal fuel taxes: 18.4 cents a gallon for gasoline and 24.4 cents a gallon for diesel. Revenue from those taxes has declined since the economic downturn in 2008 and because the fuel efficiency of cars and trucks is increasing.
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The first thing they could do is totally eliminate the bullshit raiding of the fund to put 20% in urban mass transit. Then they can pass a law that says fund will only be used for highway and bridge construction and maintenance. But that will never happen. The other thing they can do is get rid of café standards.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:05 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 03:05 AM (/x4oj)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 03:07 AM (i6RpT)
If this was the Bushes they would be griping about spending a shit pot of money during a depression.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:07 AM (YdQQY)
That's what I was afraid of.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 03:07 AM (+zL0z)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:12 AM (i6RpT)
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I was hoping he would get nervous as the day approached and he would cut a deal to rat out Obama. But knowing the DOJ, he is probably cutting a deal now to not rat him out.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:13 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Senor MJ (Remembering 7th grade Spanish) at March 15, 2012 03:16 AM (/x4oj)
Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 03:16 AM (6Cjut)
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 03:19 AM (vrYVY)
Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (6Cjut)
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I talked the doctor into stopping the IV drugs which were causing the neuropathy. I am now getting only the "pump". The worst thing about yesterday was waiting three hours for the results of the blood test and getting the pump from the pharmacy.
During that time I had to listen to this black lady spouting crap right out of Derrick Bell movies.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:19 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Village Idiot at March 15, 2012 03:20 AM (utXSy)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at March 15, 2012 03:22 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2012 03:22 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2012 03:23 AM (Af3Wg)
I saw no indication Santorum didn't know that.
Why demagogue? Santorum is right. Hell, I bet Romney, who has been posing as an extremist on immigration for a couple of months, would agree.
On many of these issues, Santorum is attacked for things that Romney is not materially different on. Reminds me of gay rights guys bashing Hillary for Obama's benefit. I guess it's because they thought Obama was lying?
Anyway, of course Puerto Rico and the rest of this country should have a common language. And of course our schools promote English already. No need to be obnoxious.
Posted by: Dustin at March 15, 2012 03:24 AM (wcT+8)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:24 AM (YdQQY)
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Not in Southern CA.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:25 AM (YdQQY)
But that's not what the Politico article (the Reuters article said nothing at all about the visit) said:
"Speaking Wednesday evening at an evangelical church here, Santorum had the opportunity to put his faith – which he is vocal about – on display before several hundred parishioners."
There's a difference from displaying your faith and ringing the social issue bell. I doubt very, very much that Politico--POLITICO--would omit a mention of Santorum "campaigning on social issues." Libs can't help it. Fact is, Santorum's been a lot more disciplined about that of late. Probably too late, but still.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 03:30 AM (B0893)
When more than half of the people are on some sort of welfare, subsidized rent etc. Plus, you know where the zipcode with the most people, percentage-wise, on SSI is right?
It really chaps my hide the entitlement mentality of the whole place, like Chicago with subtitles...
Posted by: Witin at March 15, 2012 03:30 AM (Wy05x)
The perfect campaign slogan for Sweater Boy!
As soon as he received the coveted Michelle Malkin and "Poppin' Fresh" seals of approval, I knew I couldn't support the guy. Yes, I'll vote for him if the Repubs are dumb enough to nominate him, but in many respects that won't be all that much of an improvement over the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable traitor.
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2012 03:31 AM (SLZUA)
Yeah, so he tripped up on the "official" status of English in the Commonwealth, but making English the "primary" language as a condition of Statehood should be lauded. Especially when he's willing to go to PR and say it directly.
But, yeah, I'm sure whatever Romney advocates for the moment is better.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 03:35 AM (B0893)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:35 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Toilet safety administration at March 15, 2012 03:36 AM (T6sxD)
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2012 07:31 AM (SLZUA)
I agree with the first part, but disagree about the second. It is almost impossible for ANYONE to be almost as bad as SCOAMF.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 03:36 AM (0401c)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2012 03:36 AM (Af3Wg)
Make them a true independent nation.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:38 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Hedgehog at March 15, 2012 03:39 AM (uHYpt)
FOX and Friends has some Jersey Shore person reading the weather and she only seems to notice the weather for herself in NY.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 03:40 AM (amaZR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 03:41 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Village Idiot at March 15, 2012 03:43 AM (utXSy)
I'll repost this for the benefit of the Morning Moron Shift. Everybody last night was too excited about the live movie blog.
I contacted the FL State Attorney General's office yesterday to file a formal complaint against the scrunt over in Lake County who flew the defaced American flag. I asked if that was a violation of Florida Statute (which it is, I looked it up) and asked if her office would prosecute or if someone else had to file charges.
I'll see what's in my inbox when I get home from work today.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 15, 2012 03:43 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:43 AM (YdQQY)
Shotguns on a 500 pound bear?
I sure wish I had my 870 loaded with slugs the time I was porch reading and looked up to find a 500 lb. bear about five feet away.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 03:44 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 15, 2012 03:46 AM (BvdQo)
Yeah and?
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:41 AM (i6RpT)
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And nothing, Seems to me if you're doing a national weather report you would read the weather for the entire country and not just where YOU are.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 03:46 AM (amaZR)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:43 AM (YdQQY)
Trial balloon for expanding the vote worldwide?
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Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 03:47 AM (0401c)
Again, not a well-reasoned lunge against Santy (most Romney camp apologetics share the same flaw), but it should be pretty clear by this point that Gabe isn't a single issue shill.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 03:47 AM (B0893)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2012 03:48 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 03:48 AM (/x4oj)
While you're here, Vic -- you seemed to reply with an air of disbelief about the PA distillery article I posted on Monday. You were correct about the western farmers turning their corn into liquor to make it easier to get to market. The farmers were in western PA, so the article was accurate.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 03:48 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 03:48 AM (kbuN7)
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 03:48 AM (gre5a)
They could be swimming in ethanol money from sugar cane, but now the only people willing to manual work there are the Dominican illegals. All the sugar cane fields and processing plants closed years ago.
I fled with my wife and kids right out of college and busted my ass to get them a good life, if others can't be bothered to improve their lot, f-em. The place has been hemorraging the brain-trust for a long time, there are not that many STEM positions available and the few remaining are not secure.
Posted by: Witin at March 15, 2012 03:49 AM (Wy05x)
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My first thought would be that since these territories are bluer than blue that its almost guaranteed to go for the most liberal candidate. This makes the Rockefeller wing happy and they are the ones running the Party.
I don't know why Santorum is even wasting money campaigning there.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:49 AM (YdQQY)
Oh, absolutely. A 12 gauge (which is the standard cop issue) would do the trick quite nicely, especially loaded with slugs.
I wouldn't go any smaller than a 16 gauge, though.
Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 03:51 AM (B0893)
Posted by: Long Island at March 15, 2012 03:52 AM (kzp9t)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 03:53 AM (i6RpT)
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You must have missed by answer to your posts yesterday. I wasn't disagreeing with you in the original post. I was expanding to write-up based on research I did last year about a lot of different "insurrections" in early US history.
My overall point is that like most of these insurrections, it was based on unfair and unequal taxation. The corrupt American System has never had a fair taxation system and it has got a lot worse.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:54 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Case at March 15, 2012 03:55 AM (QwurB)
Posted by: Julius Caesar at March 15, 2012 03:55 AM (niZvt)
Vic,
He sees that Romney keeps picking up delegates by winning the easy to get territories. It is cheap for Santorum to show up, and he might pick up a few additional delegates (who knows).
I used to be on the Credentials Committee for the College Republicans, and you would be amazed how important that portion of the ground game is (and how ugly it is, to be honest). Who gets delegates/authority and why is an ugly, unseemly process, and there are a bunch of egos involved. The smaller the stakes, the bigger the egos.
I don't know that saying 'insiders are for Romney' is the proper way to look at how he keeps gaining by losing, but rather Romney has done all of his research and is playing to clench this primary process--not playing to win over the hearts and minds of primary voters. It is certainly a high-risk proposition.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 03:56 AM (0401c)
As for statehood? No. Not just no but hell no. The entire island is systematically dysfunctional from top to bottom, and there's no way in hell I want that mess any further involved in the USA.
As a side note - if you want to experience the joys of socialized medicine, go to Puerto Rico and give it a whirl. If you manage to come back alive, you'll understand why I fight against socialized medicine tooth and nail.
Posted by: Ragin' Dave at March 15, 2012 03:56 AM (q9ZdZ)
Hear, hear. I don't know Gabe, and only know anything about his personal preferences from what little I read here. But I've never gotten the impression that Santorum's intolerance toward homosexuality or Romney's tolerance of the same (if that's even true; I can't think of a single thing he's ever said on the subject) is the sole reason (or even a major reason) Gabe supports Mitt over Rick.
I'm not gay and I guess I'm a social moderate because I couldn't care less about other people's sexual preferences, but I'm supporting Romney because I think he has the best chance of defeating Obama. Period. Oh, that and I think Santorum is a judgmental prick with a freaky wife and I wouldn't want the two of them in my home much less the White House.
Anyway, the gay baiting around here should stop. It's wrong generally, and it's certainly unfair to Gabe in particular.
Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 03:57 AM (kbuN7)
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 07:48 AM (gre5a)
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And yet the Democraps push for a vote almost every year. I think on the last one while the Republicans were in charge they agreed to allow yet another vote if no more would be held for at least 5 years.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:57 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 03:59 AM (niZvt)
Regarding Statehood:
Just like Ireland joining the EU: the elections will be held until the desired result is achieved. Libs are relentless like that.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 03:59 AM (0401c)
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Mutt keeps picking up delegates whether he wins or not because the local Party establishment wants him to pick up delegates.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 03:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 04:01 AM (/x4oj)
What? No post on the statement by Matt Romney, son of Mitt, where he proclaimed to one and all on the campaign trail "Hey, I think Obama is great!"
I'm shocked, shocked, to find a double standard here.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:02 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 04:03 AM (X7Mcs)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 04:03 AM (niZvt)
I'm asking because guys like you (displeased with your options but smart enough to see the big picture) are going to be important to our chances this fall.
I get that Romney is a bland, uninspiring flip-flopper, but hell, welcome to politics. What is it about Romney that makes you dislike him so much?
Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 04:06 AM (kbuN7)
Posted by: real joe at March 15, 2012 04:06 AM (w7Lv+)
You said it.
From Iowa.
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 04:06 AM (gre5a)
Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 04:07 AM (/x4oj)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 04:08 AM (niZvt)
It's sweet talk like that which makes him all the more endearing.
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Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:09 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Witin at March 15, 2012 07:30 AM (Wy05x)
Well said. Personally, I will never support statehood for PR. However, I'm happy to grant them independence if they would like that.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 04:09 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Long Island at March 15, 2012 04:10 AM (kzp9t)
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:12 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Case at March 15, 2012 04:13 AM (QwurB)
Oh no...most of America is tremendously concerned with the terrible abuse of contraception within the bounds of marriage.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 04:13 AM (nEUpB)
But being from SC it doesn't really matter. The ones that matter are in States like OH, NC and VA. If even a small percentage stay at home OVomit gets 4 more years. And that is exactly what I think will happen.
I also think that 2008 twice in a row will permanently destroy the Republican Party.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 04:14 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 04:14 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:09 AM (P6QsQ)
Yep - and sadly he's 100% right. The Republican party has known that since GHWB. You put some moderate squish on top, a token con as VP, and that's how it's done. The conservative in America has no recourse without choosing self destruction. No sense blaming Mitt for telling the simple, ugly truth. Personally, I don't care for sugar coatings.
But we'd do the same to the moderates if we had any sense. Force them to pick between a right winger, or a commie. Happily we usually win in that one. But, of course, that means you have to fight and get mean during campaign season, which our side hates to do. The American Right is, to a large degree, a collection of spineless nicey-nice types. It's sickening.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 04:14 AM (xUM1Q)
>>>I'm happy to grant them independence if they would like that.<<<
Yeah! We're talking about California, right?
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:14 AM (0401c)
I posted the link yesterday. It was on a campaign stop where Matt Romney spoke. Let me see if I can find the link again. I don't think I bookmarked it, so it might take a minute .....
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:16 AM (P6QsQ)
Jon Stewart plays clips of Fox News commentators talking about hiding behind his clown nose.
He's unaware that when one of the Cool People get called out on their tricks by one of the Uncool People, the game is over.
Posted by: Cincinnatus at March 15, 2012 04:16 AM (0rY8f)
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:14 AM (0401c)
Yeah - them too. Unless San Diego chose to stay in the union. Then we should demand that city and a land corridor to it, rather like having our own East Prussia.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 04:16 AM (xUM1Q)
My bigger fear: a future Dem prez gets the bright idea of putting him on the Supreme Ct and the Republicans being too racially cowed to say no. Obama is the ultimate affirmative action candidate, and there's really no limit to the obeisance his fanbois will show him.
On the other hand, being a judge requires work, and that's really not consistent with the affirmative action lifestyle.
Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 04:17 AM (kbuN7)
<b>being a judge requires work</b>
Have you seen our AA SCOTUS members? Being a judge with a lifetime appointment requires only a pulse. Some work hard. Some do jack shit.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:19 AM (0401c)
http://bit.ly/ynx3Tq
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:19 AM (P6QsQ)
Is he wrong?
He's not my choice, but Romney has the inside track for the nomination, and seems to have a reasonable chance to bounce the cocksucking piece-of-shit in the White House.
Would any rational conservative vote against Romney, or even worse, not vote?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 04:20 AM (nEUpB)
Romneycare. Gun grabbing, bad choices for judges in MA.
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 04:21 AM (sxq57)
It's almost as if he made a fortune by being smart, scoping out the lay of the land, and playing the game better than everyone else. Better than oh, Rick or Newt, who knew the rules, (or maybe didn't). Let's see, what other kind of positions could use someone with that skill set? Hmmmmmm.
But, but, but......ESTABLISHMENT! That's always the easy answer, isn't it.
Posted by: pep at March 15, 2012 04:22 AM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 04:22 AM (amaZR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 04:22 AM (i6RpT)
It may be high risk but it worked. Maybe Santorum should have taken a cue. I can already hear the complaining about the amount of delegates Romney will take in Illinois but the fact is Santorum botched that also, just like Ohio and WV.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 04:22 AM (GZitp)
The excerpt hits on Obama not releasing his birth certificate, talks about Americans all striving to be in the 1%, and at the end only includes a throway line 'I think he's great' when trying to change the subject. Obviously a shitty choice of words, but not exactly an endorsement (given everything else he said).
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:24 AM (0401c)
Technically? Probably not. But if you are trying to convince a reluctant base to vote for you in the primary, the words " you have no choice" makes your proposal sound less like wooing and more like rape.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:25 AM (P6QsQ)
The fact is that Santorum did not have the money to field all the signature gatherers for all those districts t that point in the primary.
The Republican Party want you to "believe" you have some control in the primary process. In most States and the order of primaries you have NOTHING.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 04:26 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 04:27 AM (8y9MW)
O.K. by me in America!
Ev'rything free in America
For a small fee in America!
Immigrant goes to America,
Many hellos in America;
Nobody knows in America
Puerto Rico's in America!
I like the shores of America!
Comfort is yours in America!
Knobs on the doors in America,
Wall-to-wall floors in America!
Bernstein's WSS Hemiola
http://tinyurl.com/nqvk
Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 04:27 AM (lpWVn)
While English may be compulsory in school, the actual quality of English spoken and understood varies widely. I've worked with Puerto Rican national guard units during mobilization and deployment, and you cannot assume that you can use English with every Soldier. Also, when communicating internally, the PR Guardsmen definitely default to Spanish.
Claiming that it's in the school curriculum is not the same as saying that the Commonwealth is bi-lingual.
Posted by: bustermcd at March 15, 2012 04:27 AM (0AX8H)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 08:20 AM
Anyone who doesn't vote against Obama is a liberal. They may think that they are not voting for Romney but they are really voting for Obama. But....But....but....
No. If you are saying that you won't vote for anything or anyone against this marxist fuck then you are a traitor and an imbecile. Only an attention whore (libtard) would come on here and announce that he would do anything other than vote against Ofucknuggett.
And I'm starting to get seriously pissed at Mr. Calista because if he hurts Romney in the general because his fat ego wants revenge then he is a traitor too.
BTW I wanted Perry.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 04:27 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 04:28 AM (amaZR)
Vic,
Not having a ground game is not really a good excuse when running for POTUS. This is the big leagues, and if you can't get people excited enough to pump cold, hard cash into the coffers early on, then there is no way to get elected.
Running a good ground game is what allowed Reagan to win Massachusetts (and 49/50) when getting re-elected. Mittens might be a robot, but he has the management experience to handle all aspects of a campaign (as he should, he has been running for ever).
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:30 AM (0401c)
I never said it was an endorsement. If you read my original post regarding this issue, I referenced Gabe's focus on Santorum's clumsiness on the campaign trail, and his apparent habit of giving the Democrats ammunition against him.
I mocked Gabe for focusing on one, while being blind to the other. The Matt Romney thing is all over the lefty websites, and they are using it to their advantage.
And if this doesn't bring back fond memories of John McCain saying "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency", I don't know what does.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:30 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Case at March 15, 2012 04:30 AM (QwurB)
Spare me the it's those mean old establishment Republicans that made the process to hard for little old Rick bullshit. This is a Presidential election, if you can't raise the money or figure out the process it's nobodies fault but your own.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 04:30 AM (GZitp)
It's the mormonism. Don't doubt it.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 04:30 AM (u50z0)
I'm no fucking liberal, and I won't vote for Mr. Romneycare "I want your guns" and "I'll put fucking liberals on the bench" Mitt.
Maybe if you want votes like mine (not that mine will likely matter), you shouldn't put up a fucking democrat that calls himself a republican.
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 04:30 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 04:31 AM (u50z0)
I just don't understand why the good Republican governors made such pathetic candidates for POTUS. Now we are down to 3, and none exactly blow anybody away.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:32 AM (0401c)
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For "new" non-establishment candidates one will have little money early in the process and some of the States the Party stacks the decks against them.
Why is it that every damn candidate qualified for the ballot in SC and yet they had a hard time in some of these other States? It wasn't because they didn't know the "rules".
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 04:32 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2012 04:33 AM (/bVc5)
It's compulsory in most states, and what percentage of Americans under 40 can read or write it at a higher than a third-grade level?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 04:34 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 04:34 AM (kbuN7)
This is gonna cause a fuss:
Pa. Lawsuit Could Make DOMA Applicable to Private Companies
A Pennsylvania lawsuit could substantially increase the reach of the Defense of Marriage Act, potentially prohibiting private companies from recognizing same-sex spouses.
The case, which went before a judge in Philadelphia on Monday, seeks to determine whether the death benefits accrued by the late Sarah Ellyn Farley should be paid to her parents or her wife from a legal Canadian same-sex marriage, Jennifer Tobits.
Farley's employer, the Cozen O'Connor law firm, was unable to determine which party had the appropriate claim to Farley's benefits, so the case was put before a judge.
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While DOMA has not been used in the past to prevent private companies from recognizing same-sex marriages, Farley's parents claim that since the act and a similar Pennsylvania state statute both define marriage in traditional terms as between a man and a woman, Tobits' claim to the benefits is invalid.
http://tinyurl.com/6mkxt6v
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 04:35 AM (7+pP9)
If they knew the rules and chose to forfeit the delegates that was their decision, quit complaining about it.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 04:36 AM (GZitp)
Vic,
We have elections every four years, and the rules are pretty well known in advance. In fact, it is now much easier for insurgent candidates to get recognition due to the superpacs. I'm sorry, but it takes next to nothing to get on the ballot in most states (seriously, $10k was too much for Santorum?), so I find it ludicrous to fault the 'establishment' in that instance. It is just shitty campaigning.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:36 AM (0401c)
Personally I don't like any of these damn losers and I think none of them will win once the MFM and the Obama lying machine gets in high gear.
Yes, 50 more debates hosted by Solegad O'Brainiac.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 04:36 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 04:37 AM (amaZR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 04:37 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 04:38 AM (i6RpT)
Mitt is like my 50th choice for POTUS, but he is running against
1) a blowhard less conservative than Romney who manages to spend $1.5 million in personal air travel per annum and run up huge debt at Tiffany's, all while on wife #3.
and
2) A candidate who has done NOTHING in an executive role and can't figure out how to get on ballots, despite having years to prepare. Senators make terrible presidents.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:40 AM (0401c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 04:40 AM (Ho2rs)
Next stop: "benefits" awarded to the second, third, and fourth wives of immigrants from Islamic countries.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 04:40 AM (ZKzrr)
I lol'd.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:38 AM (ZKzrr)
Sure that isn't April 1?
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:40 AM (0401c)
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That is exactly what I said, but the key here is "most" States. Some States simply paying 10K will not get you on the ballot. You have to canvass hundreds of districts getting registered voters to sign a petition to get you on the ballot. That takes a lot of money to hire those people unless you are crazy uncle and have thousands of potheads to do it for you based on decades of running a pothead ticket.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 04:41 AM (YdQQY)
I am fairly sure (my opinion) that electing romney would be no better in those regards. It's not a real choice.
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 04:41 AM (sxq57)
Who do you think Obama is going to put on the bench? He's up two liberal lesbians, one of which was Derrick Bell's student editor. Gun grabbing? Hell Obama went to all the trouble to set up fast and furious so he could grab guns. When he has a full supreme court, the house, the senate you can bet you'll see some "gun grabbing".
Obamacare will go full speed and the death panels will go active but, no, you want Obama to have a second term. The insurance companies will go bankrupt. There will be single payer but you want to be a douchebag.
Just admit you're a lib. Go ahead. You want Obama to finish the job he started. No rational person thinks that anyone give a FUCK whether you stay home or not. No one gives a FUCK about your principles when the whole goddamn free world and the United States of America are at stake.
Just go register democrat and quit spreading your poison to people of quality and conscience. Romney is not my ideal either, but whoever the nominee is will get my full support because the alternative is ANATHEMA.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 04:42 AM (u50z0)
I would vote for anybody over Obama. I would crawl over broken glass to vote for even Shrillary over Obama! Whichever candidate has the R next to his/her name will get my full support, because the stakes are too high.
Gingrich, Santorum, Romney, even Paul are 10000x better than the incumbent.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:42 AM (0401c)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 15, 2012 04:44 AM (NL15p)
http://bit.ly/w5U7Js
In summary (with bold for emphatic inflection): Sandra Fluke is a 30 year old leftist activist, attending Georgetown University, whom the Dems tried to inject, via non-sequitur, into Issa’s hearing about Obamacare’s encroachment upon religious freedoms, protected by the Establishment Clause in the 1st Amendment. Her boyfriend, Adam Mutterperl, is the son of one of the most well-connected leftist Jewish families on the East Coast (add the West Coast to that, apparently), with ties to neo-Marxist Brandeis University as decades old donors… and whose father, Bill Mutterperl, worked directly for Paul Volcker, one of Obama’s pals, advisors, and Keynesian “stimulus” bill architects. Yet, we’re supposed to believe that this just boils down to a poor girl needing us to “subsidize” her birth control. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:45 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 04:45 AM (X7Mcs)
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:43 AM (sxq57)
If you are fine living in Obama's America for another term, by all means--take your ball and go home. You will own the results of the 2nd term. I hope that destroying America is better to you than pinching your nose and voting R one more time.
If Bamster gets re-elected, I don't think that I will ever come back to the US.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:45 AM (0401c)
I expect anyone in the re-education camps preening about how at least they have their integrity b/c they refused to vote against SCOAMF are going to hafta worry about their fellow inmates more than the guards.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 04:46 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 04:46 AM (hiMsy)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 04:46 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:47 AM (0401c)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 04:47 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 04:47 AM (YdQQY)
You can say what you want about Santorum and I'm no Santorum fan, or fan of any of the smegma candidates the republicans have foisted upon conservatives.
Give the guy a break. This is America and the last ime I checked we used to speak english.
I for one am so sick of pressing 1 for english (nowadays in the SW its press 2).
Crap, I was in Detriot a while back and they had press 1 for Eubonics! 
Posted by: LittleSmod at March 15, 2012 04:47 AM (fCf3K)
So...not much different than most existing states.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 04:47 AM (ZKzrr)
You love it and don't want it to go away, admit it. Just admit it troll.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 04:47 AM (u50z0)
Can we just fast-forward to election day? I can't take it until then...
At least March Madness is here.
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 04:48 AM (0401c)
Maybe try taking Mitt's cock out a bit before talking, ok?
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 04:48 AM (sxq57)
Then raise the freak'n money.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 04:49 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:49 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 04:49 AM (X7Mcs)
Posted by: Former Republican at March 15, 2012 04:50 AM (cSkp1)
Hmmmmmm ..... could it be? Nawwwwww ....
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:51 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 04:51 AM (QACbj)
Posted by: Andi Sullivan at March 15, 2012 04:51 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 04:52 AM (i6RpT)
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The language issue with regard to Puerto Rico is a major issue should Puerto Rico become a state. To dismiss it by noting a school language requirement is as nonsensical a Santorum's comments. Puerto Rican statehood is a minefield of multilingual stupidities coming to a town near you.
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At the most basic level there is a big difference between 'Commonwealth' and 'Associated Free State'.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 04:52 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 04:53 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 04:53 AM (X7Mcs)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 04:54 AM (i6RpT)
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep o' nights;
Yond' Rick has a lean and hungry look;
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Posted by: Julius Ides of March Mutt Romney at March 15, 2012 04:54 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 08:46 AM (hiMsy)
+1
Although that is too complicated for some people around here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 04:55 AM (nEUpB)
There really are conservatives:
Sen. Toomey Praises Passage Of Farm Truck Amendment
U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) today praised Senate passage of a bipartisan amendment he co-sponsored to the pending highway bill that would free farmers from onerous red tape.
The amendment, which passed by voice vote, would clarify that the federal government may not require farmers to comply with the same red tape reporting requirements that apply to long-haul truckers. Farm truck regulations would instead be left to states to decide, without interference from the U.S. Transportation Department.
http://tinyurl.com/7ea7xmm
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 04:55 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 04:55 AM (X7Mcs)
But will SCOAMF sign it?
And can we get busy freeing other industries from "onerous red tape"?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 04:56 AM (ZKzrr)
Thanks. I needed that laugh.
There will be no primary- not a serious one, at any rate- of Mitt Romney (assuming he's our nominee and then goes on to win the WH). Many (if not all) of the same voices now saying you have to vote for him or you're a Liberal Troll now will then be saying that you can't primary him because it will damage him for the General, still fail, and then hand the country over to the next Socialist waiting in the wings.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 04:57 AM (8y9MW)
I bought myself a dozen gorgeous roses yesterday. They are pink with deep burgundy edges. I put them in a lovely vase and sat them right next to my computer. They remind me that in the midst of the ugliness that is the Obama administration, there are still beautiful things in life to be enjoyed and savored .
When Obama leaves the White House, I am buying myself 12 dozen . I'm going to need more vases.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 04:57 AM (P6QsQ)
However, I'm happy to grant them independence if they would like that.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 08:09 AM (xUM1Q)
If they become independent, then they would get more in foreign aid!
Posted by: abandon at March 15, 2012 04:57 AM (We7+K)
Posted by: Mark I am a poor voter Anthony at March 15, 2012 04:58 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 04:59 AM (u50z0)
Or you could stick it up Springstein's rectum while still green.
Posted by: Martha fucking Stewart at March 15, 2012 04:59 AM (vRSeu)
Arlen Specter a party-switcher and political opportunist like no one in living memory...
http://tinyurl.com/79w892f
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 05:00 AM (7+pP9)
Springsteen was my favorite rocker (by far) in my youth. I saw several of his amazing shows, but since about 1985 he has done nothing original, and has devolved into an immensely wealthy caricature of the populist strummer, rousing the people from their slumber and marching on Washington.
Unfortunately for Springsteen, he is too busy hanging out in Rumson (a fabulously wealthy town), taking his daughter to equestrian competitions, and thumbing his nose at the people who made him rich to be taken seriously as a representative of "the people."
I agree: fuck Bruce Springsteen.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:00 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: SurferDoc at March 15, 2012 05:00 AM (6H6FZ)
Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 05:00 AM (0401c)
I'm persuaded.
Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 05:01 AM (xAtAj)
No difficult to understand unless you're like Gman and have all your orifices filled by Critical Race Theorists.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 05:01 AM (u50z0)
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His latest album. I guess they never listened closely to his first 16 albums. Like most 'pop artists' Springsteen is a leftist (even country has gotten more leftish) and his music has always reflected that. Now he is just upset that Obama is FAIL and he must see OWS as a revival of the protests of his youth that he missed out on. I think it might be a psychological thing as the nuns who were his teachers were probably proto-Santori.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 05:01 AM (eEfYn)
I come to bury Mutt, not to praise him.
The evil that he did lives after in MA;
The good is not to be found.
Posted by: Mark Santorum Anthony at March 15, 2012 05:02 AM (YdQQY)
Romney and Santorum (and each of the other GOP candidates, including my first choice, Perry) have the exact same position on gay issues. They both supported DADT, they both support DOMA, and they both support a future Federal Marriage Amendment. They are not meaningfully distinguishable on this issue.
So to say that must be the "single issue" that I'm interested in is absolutely the dumbest thing I hear on a daily basis. You know who you are.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 05:02 AM (+zL0z)
Yes, stop the gay baiting so we can concentrate on the Catholic bashing.
Idiot.
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 05:02 AM (vrYVY)
Nothing I can recall has gotten under my skin as much as that Karen Finney clip saying "conservative values" is a codeword for racism. I have been fuming about that for a day now.
It is so revealing about what the left really thinks. The mask slipped in a moment of weakness and they revealed their true thoughts. What a despicable excuse for a human being.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 05:02 AM (nMiwq)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 05:02 AM (X7Mcs)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 05:03 AM (QACbj)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 05:03 AM (/NCSB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 08:57 AM (8y9MW)
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Well, it's easy to justify staying home this election when your goal is to crash everything as quickly as possible. For those of us who want to keep things going as long as possible, sitting out the next election is madness. Pure folly.
So I'd amend prior comments to this - if you advocate staying home this election you are either A. a Liberal Troll or B. An Apocalypse Booster who wants the commies to crash America so it can be rebuilt. I think those two cover it.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 05:03 AM (xUM1Q)
Today I found out that you are a "single issue" blogger...and you are GAY!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:04 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: rockmom at March 15, 2012 05:05 AM (YPgCz)
Well dagny, seeing as how I held my nose and voted for Bush, and McCain, and *was* until your little rant calling me liberal troll reconsidering my "don't vote for president, but vote downticket stance for the republicans (fat lot of good that will be anyhow, except maybe for senate, since where I live makes Berkeley look normal)" stance even if Mitt is the nominee I'd say I wouldn't know.
I know, I know, I'm totally irrational. You know, wanting someone that actually more closely represents my beliefs. I'm fairly certain that Romney is far far to the left of where I am on issues I actually care about. He's actually far enough left on *those* issues that I *really* don't see a big enough difference between him and Obama. Unfortunately, those are my primary issues...the ones that would, in a normal election year, help me decide to vote *for* a candidate. They're not there. Yes, Obama is terrible, but so is Romney. Further, they're both really terrible *in the things that matter the most to me right now*. So, go ahead, and keep calling me a liberal troll. Because all it's doing is making me more sure I'm right that I wouldn't want to be associated with someone that has people like you as supporters.
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:05 AM (sxq57)
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What the Republican Party "is" already was proven.
It doesn't need your approval.
It will go on regardless of you.
It plays us all as fools.
It already destroyed us.
To which level each of us perceives that is yet an individual matter.
How personally significant your membership in that party is remains the only question. Do you belong where you are abused by your "betters"? Do you cling to the idea that you are assessed any value by the Republican Party beyond the taxes and donations you submit? Consider whether the fear of being ostracized is more intense than the outrageous injuries from treacherous Republican Party leadership?
If I must be a bitter clinger, then as ever it's to my Constitution and Faith in God given Rights to every Person. And to the extent that the Republican/Democrat Party revises Constitutional Governance into authoritarianism, may God in mercy grant new life to Liberty in the destruction of corruption.
Our responsibilities as Americans are to America, upholding the integrity of the US Constitution. To the extent that we fail, we destroy ourselves. Whatever else, without integrity at home, there is no "moral" exportation.
http://tinyurl.com/7kz8swy
SHAME SCOAMF! Bush started and persisted in promoting this never ending war, establishing the "Karzai" Suicidal Rules of Engagement sabotaging our finest service men and women. Obama is a SCOAMF. To pretend that the next (Republican) President will not be a SCOAMF "is" an exercise in futility requiring a willing suspension of disbelief, just as hoping that voters will make a difference for the better is without merit in a corrupt "owned" ballot system.
Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 05:06 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 05:06 AM (Ho2rs)
Livin' la Vida Loca?
R-r-r-r-r-r-Yah-yah-Yah-yah-YAH!
Posted by: Rick R-R-Rolls at March 15, 2012 05:07 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 05:07 AM (u50z0)
US soldiers were asked to disarm during a speech by Leon Panetta, the American defence secretary"
Major General Mark Gurganus later said he gave the order because Afghan troops attending the talk were unarmed and he wanted the policy to be consistent for all.
http://tinyurl.com/7kz8swy
Itchy and Scratchy CIA/Defense Sec. PANETTA issued the Obama order that Gurganus carried out. This bullshit that an underling issues suicidal orders that didn't come from above isn't going to sell amongst Obama's opponents in the voting booth. Is this a pathetic and audaciously insane ploy attempting to cue the anti-war voters into Obama's fold? No sale.
DISTRUST THE MARINES?! Americans at home see that our government absolutely distrusts our troops. What idiots will take from that is their own official lead to distrust our service men and women.Prepare for the Alinsky victimization of our Military service members to be portrayed by the media as baby killers, to be abused as the Vietnam Veterans were. DHS Sec. Napolitano's first memo "radical veterans" made evident the national policy trajectory set into motion. One bad apple in the lot means punitive action against every trooper. Considering this CinC response to the Afghan murders, penalizing the entire Military with abject distrust, there's logic to be found in the set-up to the fray.
It's the making for another Ft. Hood unarmed massacre on global scale, disarming our troops in a congregated area mixed with saboteurs, whether leaders or stooges.
Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 05:07 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: rockmom at March 15, 2012 05:08 AM (YPgCz)
My town passed an english only proclamation several years ago, wasn't even an ordinance, just simply a statement saying that they consider the town to be english only. This didn't go unnoticed by the mexican minority in this Ohio town of 3500 people.
They stormed city hall at the next council meeting and came out with not only the proclamation recinded, but a once a year mexican party in the city park sponsored by the city.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 05:08 AM (amaZR)
Really?
So, "traitor", and "liberal" and "troll" isn't name-calling now?
News to me.
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:08 AM (sxq57)
The wonders of human rights under Sharia code. 16 year old girl kills herself rather than marry her rapist as directed by judge. These people are savages with no hint of civilization and should either be civilized or exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.
http://is.gd/LE9MU1
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:09 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 09:01 AM (xAtAj)
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Meh. Not good enough for me. Even a blind pig finds a truffle once in a while. English as official language is vital, otherwise I'm going to have to learn Spanish to do my official business with the government in a few more years. That's not OK when in the US. I expect it in other nations where English is not dominant - but not here. F that. No bilingual forms, even. It's all waste and added expense, and it undermines cultural homogeneity (which, contrary to what libtards think, is a good thing). We need to bind our people together more, not break them apart more.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 05:09 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 05:10 AM (hiMsy)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:10 AM (yAor6)
C. Someone who believes that the WH is a lost cause whether it's Romney or Obama, and will focus on down-ticket races.
Just to fill out the options, there.
I'm not one of them, but I understand the people (to some extent, anyway) who look at Romney and Obama and say "Where's the policy difference?" And the "judges" thing- while important- is still a gamble (albeit somewhat less of one) with Romney. IIRC, his selection of judges in MA as Governor left a bit to be desired.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:11 AM (8y9MW)
You're waiting for whom? Where is he? That's how we know you're lying. You're not advocating a candidate who all have problems btw, you're advocating not voting against Obama.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 05:11 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:11 AM (sxq57)
That's what kills me. What is the plan after the "crash"? Hunt and scavenge? No thanks.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 05:11 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:11 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (niZvt)
lol, I was talking about about the Puerto Rico thing, seriously this guy is a master at offending the voters he want
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:12 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Blago at March 15, 2012 05:12 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: rockmom at March 15, 2012 05:12 AM (YPgCz)
http://is.gd/LE9MU1
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:09 AM (YdQQY)
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Well said. Since the former option is impossible, the later option should be put in place as quickly as possible.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 05:12 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 05:12 AM (6Cjut)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 05:13 AM (/NCSB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:13 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:13 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:13 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:14 AM (yAor6)
A Republican president even if a rino is at least susceptible to party pressure when Obama, lame duck, would go so hard left that the flag really would have his visage on it.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 05:14 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:14 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 05:14 AM (QACbj)
UN issues report praising Gadaffi's human rights record. These are the people who will evaluate our voting requirements for the NAACP. I say send the NAACP to one of the third world shit holes that make up this council and see how much they get to vote.
http://is.gd/BO2BqT
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 05:15 AM (/NCSB)
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:15 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (8y9MW)
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Fair enough - but imagine Obie without another election hanging over his head. The man is a Stalinist. Do you really think that 2nd term Obama will be as mild and defensive as 1st term Obama? The difference between term 2 obastard and Mitt will be so extreme as to be almost impossible to parody.
He'll have nothing to hold him back, and our side certainly doesn't have the spine to stop him.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 05:15 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Pope Ricky at March 15, 2012 05:16 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 05:16 AM (u50z0)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:16 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:09 AM (YdQQY)
Is your last name Bloomberg? Because you are acting like a nanny!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:17 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 05:17 AM (X7Mcs)
Posted by: Rod Blagojevich at March 15, 2012 05:18 AM (gh6F5)
Posted by: Pope Ricky at March 15, 2012 05:18 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 05:18 AM (hiMsy)
Posted by: E at March 15, 2012 05:19 AM (lS30B)
Colin Campbell some dead senile crank predicted peak US capacity for 2000.
"Most experts think that he was close to right"
The '08 show is now revising that we peaked in '06.Coincidentally much like the adjustable AGW creeping incorrect doom predictions these relentless liars are never wrong, just close.
Posted by: ontherocks at March 15, 2012 05:19 AM (ZJCDy)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:19 AM (niZvt)
And that's pretty much all the culture I need to know on World Day of Muslim Culture, Peace, Dialogue and Film.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 05:19 AM (ZKzrr)
That's weak. Romney took the most delegates and expanded his lead by 6. As I said yesterday, the game is 1144, not moral victories.
As of today, Romney has a good chance of reaching 1144, given the voting trends and the upcoming winner take all states. Santorum needs to significantly over perform from his current baseline to get to 1144. Even winning the winner take all, he can't get to 1144 at his current support levels. Gingrich is mathematically eliminated and is only in it to try and stop Romney from getting to 1144. Gingrich dropping out will not help Santorum, since Romney is the second choice for about half his supporters.
If I had to guess, I would say Romney will cross 1144 in the California primary in June.
Did anyone notice that Romney gave Santorum a huge gift in Illinois yesterday by withdrawing challenges? If the challenges had been kept in place, he would have only been able to compete for 14 delegates, instead of the 44 he can now compete for. As it is, he still can't compete in several Congregational districts because he failed to submit enough signatures.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 05:19 AM (nMiwq)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:19 AM (niZvt)
Seriously, though. I didn't start out calling you a liberal, or a traitor. Hell, I didn't even start out with name-calling (and I think I did do some here, but not directly to you).
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:20 AM (sxq57)
http://is.gd/lxiXto
Yes, the economy is getting so much better even thought the actual number of working people is getting smaller. Just wait until October
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:20 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 05:20 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: E at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (lS30B)
having been from there and lived there for more then your four years I dispute this. Puerto Ricans must learn english as they grow up and much more then just 25% don't know it. The older folks tend to not know it as much as the younger folks who do, but Spanish is the #1 language down there
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:21 AM (yAor6)
First: not voting for either candidate is not "voting for Obama." It's not voting for either candidate. Let's get that clear. While we may not like the ramification thereof, "A pox on both your houses" is a valid political position.
Second, in my case, I don't have to hold my nose to vote for Romney- I'm in Texas and one of two things will be true: 1) The Republican (whoever it is) will win Texas. 2) If Texas is a battle ground- that means we've already lost.
However, an affirmative vote for Romney is an indication that I support what he stands for. And, compared to Obama, I do- so I may pull that lever anyway. In the primary? No F'ing way. Within the microcosm of Conservative politics, Romney is so far out of touch with my values that he almost doesn't register.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:17 AM (nEUpB)
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I'm tired of the internal flame wars over these 4 shitty candidates, none who are worth a damn.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:22 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Tired of all the time c**k down the throat at March 15, 2012 05:22 AM (iwTh6)
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:23 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: maddogg at March 15, 2012 05:23 AM (OlN4e)
You're still wrong to not vote against Obama.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 05:24 AM (u50z0)
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Yes, but Romney is nearly worth a damn. I think that makes a difference.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 05:24 AM (eEfYn)
Four candidates?
Ron Paul just needs a big red clown nose to complete his costume.
Yup...they all suck.
But I'll bet a bottle of good bourbon that you will be voting for one of them. You won't be sitting out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:24 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:24 AM (nEUpB)
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I could use a bottle of good bourbon today. Gonna be sunny and 82° with all the trees in full bloom.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:26 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 05:26 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:26 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 05:26 AM (vrYVY)
Parse all you want.
If you don't vote against Obama then you are beneath contempt. It means that you aren't fighting for this great country.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:27 AM (nEUpB)
Listen. I'll apologize, this once, for flying off the handle. But your post was for "anyone that won't vote for mitt" then proceeded to call those people (of which I am one) liberals and traitors. I won't sit and take *that* so...I got upset. I'm sorry.
And maybe I am still wrong not to vote against Obama, but it's my vote. I *do* really wish that the republicans had put up some better choices. I mean *really* wish they had. This really sucks.
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 05:27 AM (sxq57)
I think i'll sit this one out, doesn't matter which blog gets more hits
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:28 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Mother Angelica at March 15, 2012 05:28 AM (Gx3Fe)
That's weak. Romney took the most delegates and expanded his lead by 6. As I said yesterday, the game is 1144, not moral victories.
Indeed, and I'm fairly sure I already wrote about that here, kdny. I certainly talked about it enough on Twitter, where I congratulated Santorum for winning on Tuesday night, noting that he got 39 delegates, while Romney got 45.
So that's how "Mr. Inevitable," as you call him, did on Tuesday night. Won again. Inevitably.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 05:28 AM (+zL0z)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 05:28 AM (nMiwq)
This is gonna cause a fuss:
Pa. Lawsuit Could Make DOMA Applicable to Private Companies
I have a question. If a non-married couple can get married couple benefits, can/will/how soon shall a man/woman unmarried couple, now fight for the same benefits?
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 05:28 AM (oKsWl)
idk i'm not catholic and app. neither are Ricky's majority votes
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:28 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:13 AM (YdQQY)
I'm sure he'll be on the Executive Pardons List that Obama signs as his last official act as POTUS.
Posted by: Nighthawk at March 15, 2012 05:29 AM (RSqz2)
Who wins? Candidate B because his voters don't stay home on "principle".
(not percentages, numbers)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 05:29 AM (u50z0)
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Back when the nation knew what the hell they were doing that was an unofficial requirement. That is the primary reason New Mexican statehood was delayed for so long.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 05:30 AM (eEfYn)
RINO! (kidding- which I hope was obvious, but might not be on this thread)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:30 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 05:30 AM (nMiwq)
A friend gave me a bottle of Angel's Envy bourbon for Christmas (Yeah, I'm Jewish, but I won't refuse a gift of booze).
Obscenely expensive, but damn, it is good!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:31 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Embittered Redleg at March 15, 2012 05:31 AM (CuPwN)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:31 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:30 AM (nMiwq)
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I would too.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:32 AM (YdQQY)
The only thing more boring than listening to these candidates is listening to people bitch at each other about these candidates. (Software verification runs a pretty close third.)
The NCAA exploits black kids.
http://is.gd/fngp9q
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 05:32 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 05:32 AM (rX1N2)
They include Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, Vogue editor-in-chief Anna Wintour, media mogul Fred Eychaner, Pfizer executive Sally Susman, Stoneyfield Farms president and CEO Gary Hirschberg, and Microsoft executives Suzi Levine and John Frank. Several have each raised more than half a million dollars for 2012, according to estimates provided by ObamaÂ’s campaign.
The group attending the dinner tonight is responsible for at least $10.7 million of the roughly $250 million Obama and Democrats have amassed for the election cycle so far.
The man of people once again spending time with average Americans unlike those greedy Republicans who only care about the rich
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2012 05:32 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 05:33 AM (oKsWl)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:33 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 05:33 AM (X7Mcs)
You're not.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:33 AM (8y9MW)
I'm just yanking his chain a bit (and he knows that). He's a cranky old curmudgeon, but he understands what is at stake, unlike some others.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:33 AM (nEUpB)
"What an impressively intellectual riposte!"
Thanks man. From Charlie Brown's dildo, that means a lot...
At this point, I'm just tired of the trivial shit that everyone brings up about the GOP candidates. After all the pouting from some people about what a disaster Huckabee was and how they would vote for Obama or stay home if he were the nominee, I don't have the patience for now having to read one more stupid critique about Santorum. (Huckabee was about my 5th choice by the way.)
Santorum said something stupid in Puerto Rico? Great. Wait five minutes and Romney will say something stupid too.
All of our candidates suck. But I will vote for whoever gets the nomination.
Posted by: Matt at March 15, 2012 05:34 AM (90w0O)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:34 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:35 AM (nEUpB)
Should we get kicked out of the union?
Posted by: Embittered Redleg at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (CuPwN)
Yeah, probably.
Posted by: maddogg at March 15, 2012 05:35 AM (OlN4e)
And my comment was in fact weak since it was an emotional reaction to your visceral dislike of Santorum.
As far as the one issue thing- For me your one issue with Santorum seems to be that you hate SoCons not gay marraige specifically.
I give you credit,Gabe for not crying about "gay baiting" when these things come up.
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 05:35 AM (vrYVY)
"First: not voting for either candidate is not "voting for Obama.""
It certainly isn't casting a vote for the candidate trying, you know, to remove Barry from the WHite House.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 05:36 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:36 AM (yAor6)
Man, I misread that at first and thought it said Mcconnell
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:35 AM (sxq57)
Shit. I just spit out my french toast coffee all over my keyboard. 
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 05:36 AM (oKsWl)
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The upside: That would be a good case study for someone to do in the future. Which idiot did more harm.
The downside: We are the data.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 05:36 AM (eEfYn)
Yup.
But...some people like to mix it up, even though the ultimate result is known.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 05:36 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 05:37 AM (vrYVY)
The tactics are also backfiring.
GOP currently has a +8 enthusiasm advantage. Our voters won't be staying home in November. Their's will.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 05:37 AM (nMiwq)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 05:37 AM (hiMsy)
Are there requirements that "domestic partners" be same-sex or even in a sexual relationship?
I've never understood why two sisters, for example, who share a household can't get the same "family" benefits as two unrelated people.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 05:37 AM (ZKzrr)
That's true. It's not voting for either candidate. Shocking that when presented with 3 choices (A, B, Neither) some people will pick 'Neither.'
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:37 AM (8y9MW)
Obscenely expensive, but damn, it is good!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (nEUpB)
You're drinking already!? Wait....that's not a bad idea.
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 05:38 AM (X6akg)
Wow. Massive ignorance on display. New Mexico was, according to its own constitution and laws, a bilingual state upon admission to the Union and through the 1940s.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 05:38 AM (+zL0z)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 05:38 AM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 05:39 AM (2Gb0y)
Donde esta la playa nudia? Me gusta la playa nudia. Me gusta helado en la piel.
Viva Rubio! He could get behind me, IIYAAYAFAKDFUAKJU.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 15, 2012 05:39 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:39 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:41 AM (yAor6)
Gman,
You should take a break for a bit and go lick the smooth spot where your manhood was. Because she totally clipped your balls at 150 and Radish played hackysack with em a few posts later. Now you're just being an asshole for assholism's sake.
I am one myself . We can recognize our own.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 05:41 AM (EgUGc)
Can you make it interesting for a change? Half of you are copy-pasting Dan Savage, the other half are copy-pasting OWS. Nineteen times a day, for the past six months.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 05:41 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2012 05:42 AM (/bVc5)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:42 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:42 AM (yAor6)
Should we get kicked out of the union?
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No, of course not. Since the hispanos (imagine italics) are no longer the majority hispanic (read without italics) population, it does make the state a prime candidate for incorporation into the Republica de Aztlan (imagine italics and other stuff).
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 05:43 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:43 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Embittered Redleg at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (CuPwN)
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As far as I'm concerned, it seems like a smart move for the long term. But, in real life, the north east states, and west coast states, are so much farther gone in most important ways that I'd be cutting my nose to spite my face if I advocated it. There are other states that need to be kicked out first.
Actually, I can see some virtue in the idea of dividing up the US into a few different regions and all going our own ways - just maintaining a trade & military alliance.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 05:44 AM (xUM1Q)
That is why I hated McCain. He never told the truth about BO. He just kissed his ass.
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 05:44 AM (oKsWl)
I'm still trying to get excited for Mr. Inevitability getting in the White House and talking about his fiscally conservative, economy-reviving plans like indexing minimum wage to inflation and continuing his record of appointing liberal justices who are still going to vote left, just not as slobberingly left.
I'm also giddy with anticipation in seeing how he's going to use his masterful skills in dealing with a hostile press who's going to talk about Romenycare every time they bring up the subject of Obamacare. It's going to be an Epic Romney Smackdown, I know it!
But at least he's not trying to put a chastity belt on you, so that's why he's Electable!
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 05:44 AM (rX1N2)
Well, that's nice, but also inaccurate. My issue with Santorum is that he's a big government, big spending, go-along-to-get-along Republican who wants to impose via federal law his flawed, anti-freedom morality on the country.
Please note: only the last bit involves social conservatism. I don't have "one issue with Santorum," I have several. Which I have written about almost exclusively. I almost never write about Santorum's stupid social ideas---for example, attempting to outlaw porn, First Amendment be damned.
Instead, I write a lot about his unapologetically pro-big government behavior while in Congress. For that, I am routinely accused of being a "single issue" blogger (that issue being, oddly, gay marriage).
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 05:44 AM (+zL0z)
@351 hey! hey! hey! don't go screwing up my VP predcition now
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:45 AM (yAor6)
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No, not "by this crowd". Why insert that, as if a correction?
"They are much more sophisticated than the '60s and '70s radicals were."
"They" are the '60s and '70s radicals, the same Underground Weathermen all grown up, don't you know? As for much more sophistication, it certainly isn't represented by the American public. If anything, the opposite is playing out as Ft. Hood proved, and as this disarming of our troops illustrates.
"needing billions of dollars in psychiatric care and housing subsidies and other expensive crap that they can continue bleeding the taxpayers for."
Whoa, bossy. First, it is wrong to alter terms of contract without consent from all involved. The President (Bush) ordered our troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, and ordered their compliance to neoconservative nation building suicidal tactics known as the "Karzai" Rules of Engagement. Bush and subsequently Obama have redeployed our troops too many times with more re-deployments yet to come in this war determined by the "best" neoconservative intellectuals to be necessarily prolonged for a century, at least. The suicidal ratio is higher than ever. So long as taxpayers and Congress sign onto declared wars, we do owe our troopers their health benefits as promised when they enlisted.
Where do you come off with referencing veterans' contracted benefits as "expensive crap that they can continue bleeding the taxpayers for"? Obama has already prepared to cut what benefits our veterans were promised on enlistment. That is no surprise, particularly given Obama's first presidential act to destroy contract law, not to mention his aversion to recognizing our troops as valuable humans.
If you're criticizing the promises for "free" health care, true enough. "Promise them anything; just get their votes," Mitt Romney proved he can't manage numbers in setting his own state up for bankruptcy, still in denial based upon the "popularity" of free lunch amongst his former constituents. (Which regular poster here was bragging about being "smart" taking advantage of Obama's cash for clunkers?) Romney "improved" opportunism for fraud, just as Paulson did to the world, ruining the economy. Now, who's so much more sophisticated today; Republican voting taxpayer moms, dads and professionals?
Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 05:45 AM (lpWVn)
Actually not true. The only way it passed was for the House to pass the Senate version that had used all 60 of the Dem Senators to pass it. They even wheeled in Byrd to vote for it, and Mass had a temporary Senator in there to make sure the Kennedy Seat voted for it. All Republicans voted against it, all of them.
When Brown won, it became impossible to make any changes to what was in the Senate bill, so the House strong armed the Dem members to vote for it. Many of them paid the ultimate price for that vote, losing in the next election. The Senate never again took up the legislation.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 05:45 AM (nMiwq)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:43 AM (niZvt)
Hey, I had my hard ass kissed last night. Course, I sat on a spoon of peanut butter, and my dog does like peanut butter.
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 05:45 AM (oKsWl)
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 05:46 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:46 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2012 05:46 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:48 AM (niZvt)
I found a web site that had both it and Jim Beam, the Jim Beam at the same price I get it for at Costco in Myrtle Beach for comparison.
A 750 ml bottle was $70. But the closest place to me that has it is in FL.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:48 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:48 AM (yAor6)
That's fair enough but when so many of your posts are socks of "Pope Ricky" you come off sounding like an anti-Catholic with a sex obsession.
To me Santorum is the least objectionable candidate left standing and Mitt is a liberal who would be just as comfortable as a Dem if they allowed Mormons to join. Like you, I will vote for Dagny's "feces covered crack whore" over Obama.
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 05:48 AM (vrYVY)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:49 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:46 AM (yAor6)
Okay, so there are two things that worry me about Mitt. He has always wanted the WH. I wanted a nominee that wanted to SAVE this Country, fuck the House that comes with it.
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 05:49 AM (oKsWl)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 05:49 AM (et2m1)
Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 05:49 AM (6Cjut)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:49 AM (niZvt)
From the Philadelphia Inquirer (Oct. 10, 2011):
Today, photo IDs are required to board an airplane, cash a check, or buy allergy medicine over the counter. Voting is more important than these activities. Voters understand this. A recent Rasmussen poll found 75 percent of likely U.S. voters back requiring photo IDs at the polls.
Refuting opponents' arguments, the Universities of Delaware and Nebraska found voter ID laws had no effect on turnout in federal elections from 2000 to 2006, including across racial, ethnic, and socio-economic lines.
After Georgia's law, among the nation's strictest, took effect in 2008, there was a record turnout in the presidential primary. In the 2008 general election, Georgia had its largest turnout ever. The African American vote increased 5 percent.
A Pennsylvania Department of State analysis shows 99 percent of eligible voters currently have acceptable photo IDs, and proposals under discussion will likely expand the list of photo IDs that can be used. PennDot will supply a free ID for those who need one, so the greatest possible cost to taxpayers is slightly more than $1 million, a small price to ensure the validity of each vote.
Some argue this is a solution without a problem, but in 2009, an FBI investigation led to forgery and election-fraud charges against seven Pittsburgh-area ACORN workers; in 2008, a Philadelphia official submitted more than 8,000 fraudulent ACORN-collected voter-registration forms.
Posted by: Charles Ponzi at March 15, 2012 05:49 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:48 AM (vrYVY)
I'm not anti-catholic though I have my criticisms of the catholic church. Im merely having fun w/ Santorums image
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:50 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 05:50 AM (et2m1)
Gabriel
Check the population levels and demographics of New Mexico in relation to the granting of statehood compared to other territories. Or go read a history book. (That is once you get done critiquing the master breeder Santorum.)
I was talking about the dominant language group not the state constitution or even the languages commonly spoken in the territory.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 05:50 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:51 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: maddogg at March 15, 2012 05:51 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (niZvt)
One kind on each cheek. I was just gathering a little polling data.
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 05:51 AM (oKsWl)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 05:52 AM (+zL0z)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:44 AM (+zL0z)
Damn, I read a Gabe comment. And how is Romney materially different from all of those criticisms you levelled at Santorum? At best they're even, but Santorum doesn't have the RomneyCare achilles heel.
So since they're inarguably dead even on the issues you have issues with Santorum on, what other issue could you possibly have to differentiate the two?
(This is why you're unreadable.)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 05:52 AM (rX1N2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:52 AM (niZvt)
Hell, Puerto Rico shouldn't gain statehood, period.
Or at least not unless some other state drops out to make room. If Texas or Alaska seceeds I may move there.
Besides I don't want to fire the Manifest Destiny train back up. It starts with Puerto Rico but in 15 years we'll be voting on whether or not to make Turkey a state.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 05:53 AM (TULs6)
Same for if you live in a deep blue state that always, always goes (D) no matter what.
For everywhere else, yeah - it matters a lot.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 05:54 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:54 AM (yAor6)
I can only imagine the reactions of the founders if they were to know that the First Amendment would be seen as the right to produce porn.
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 05:54 AM (vrYVY)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:55 AM (yAor6)
Rusty is a great adjective but how does it apply to pineapples?
Posted by: DaveA at March 15, 2012 05:55 AM (Vc/m8)
Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at March 15, 2012 05:55 AM (64S5N)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:56 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 05:56 AM (X7aC8)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 05:56 AM (yAor6)
Repudiate RomneyCare and his statement that "Mandates are fundamentally conservative?" Just off the top of my head.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:56 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:56 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 05:57 AM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 05:57 AM (YdQQY)
Come November, I will drink their tears with a twist of lemon.
Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 05:57 AM (GTbGH)
Just heard on the radio that Rev. Wright is planning a "March on Israel" and encouraging neighboring Arab countries to cross over Israel's borders to "end Israeli occupation."
The article is supposed to be posted on The Blaze.
Wonder if Barry will join him?
*heads to The Blaze*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 05:57 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:58 AM (niZvt)
Alaska, there about as bad as Puerto Rico in their dependence on the federal government. Once they lose the pipeline they're going to have a hard time justifying their statehood themselves.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 05:58 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: John Maynard Keynes at March 15, 2012 05:59 AM (e8kgV)
F that noise. We already gave away New Mexico and roughly half of Colorado. You can take the rest of my state from my cold, dead hands.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 05:59 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 05:59 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 06:00 AM (6Cjut)
Or at least not unless some other state drops out to make room. If Texas or Alaska seceeds I may move there.
People are already seceding on an individual level. I'm planning my escape from the PDRI - (People's Democratic Republic of Illinois). Puerto Rico seems to be a model for Illinois.
The US is fragmenting and I think that's pretty much OK with Obama. Perhaps that was the idea all along, hmmm?
Posted by: tubal at March 15, 2012 06:00 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 06:00 AM (X7Mcs)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:52 AM (niZvt)
He can't "prove" it until he actually governs that way. Sadly he has no conservative record from his one time in office.
We're left to judge him on what he says, which seems to blow with the wind AND have little value.
If the mainstream of American politics is that Mandates Are acceptable, then all this gnashing of teeth is pointless because we're boned.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 06:00 AM (rX1N2)
Is there any news about the SCOTUS deliberations that are ongoing? Can't find shit on it, it's as if the memory hole struck again.
A decision that Ocare is not Constitutional would be a blessing for Romney, to be sure. And I hope that outcome transpires.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 15, 2012 06:01 AM (SAMxH)
In other words- they see him as Pope Ricky.
Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 06:01 AM (vrYVY)
Posted by: Alexander Graham Bell at March 15, 2012 06:01 AM (e8kgV)
A decision that Obamacare is unconstitutional would be a blessing, period.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 06:02 AM (P6QsQ)
My guess: Hispandering!
Next week: Santorum visits American Samoa to review the life work of Margaret Meade.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 06:03 AM (eEfYn)
It doesn't exactly strike me as 'north atlantic' either.
I know better, I've seen to many parodies come true 5 years later to ever rule anything out.
Given an limitless amount of power, anything the government can do, it will do, sooner or later. No matter how preposterous.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 06:03 AM (TULs6)
A decision that Ocare is not Constitutional would be a blessing for Romney, to be sure. And I hope that outcome transpires.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 15, 2012 10:01 AM (SAMxH)
If you're talking about Ocare before the SCOTUS, I think they are to hear arguments the 24-26 of this month.
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 06:04 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 06:05 AM (yAor6)
It works if it's a pineapple grenade.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 15, 2012 06:05 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 15, 2012 06:05 AM (jTVGC)
Anyone hear this?
I caught the teaser before the break, but didn't hear him explain it in depth.
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 06:06 AM (oKsWl)
I mean you can say "But Turkey isn't even a territory!" but 5 years ago you would have said "But the ATF wants to get rid of the guns, not arm the cartels with them!"
And at that time, it would have sounded sensible and probably won the argument. Which is why, ultimately, it was wrong.
Our government is quite crazy. Expecting rational behavior from crazy people is itself somewhat crazy.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 06:06 AM (TULs6)
neutrinos, through 240 meters of solid stone."
And it probably started a flame war.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 06:06 AM (GZitp)
I just happen to think any of them would be way better than Obama, but that's apparently just me.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 15, 2012 06:06 AM (i0App)
Posted by: Media Migraines at March 15, 2012 06:07 AM (e8kgV)
Well, duh. The "Stimulus" was every and always just a way to launder money to the blue states government workers unions. If anything tangible comes from it, it's just dumb luck.
Fungible money, it's what's for breakfast.
Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 06:07 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Jean at March 15, 2012 06:08 AM (WkuV6)
Under the new law, anyone who enters Secret Service protected property and “engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct” or “impede
Posted by: Yvette Carnell at March 15, 2012 06:09 AM (e8kgV)
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Given that the Afghan/Iraqi wars had no final strategy, of course the tactics would be screwed. But there was a strategy, to disillusion Americans and to foment so much hatred as to drive us crazy as willing pawns.
The very Muslim nations that accommodated "Western" civilization, participating in assimilating non-religious culture, are those which the US with allies have aided the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalism to permeate.
A natural human response after doing all the "good" possible is to curse a failure for its lack of success.
Vic representing the respected voice of reason, it is awful to realize how conveniently the "final solution" gains endorsement, genocide to Muslim "cockroaches".
Tragedy for all, as if to endorse the "right" sort of genocide won't be grounds used against us, good intentions paving the road to our own hell.
http://tinyurl.com/7uk37
Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 06:09 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 06:09 AM (/NCSB)
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 06:10 AM (X6akg)
Scientists have for the first time sent a message using a beam of
neutrinos, through 240 meters of solid stone.
Question: They "sent" the message. Do they have any idea how to recieve it?
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 06:10 AM (TULs6)
"I'm all for Santorum, for in him lies the hope of a brokered convention. "
A brokered convention will assure the re election of Barak Obama.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 06:11 AM (kaOJx)
Janeane Garofalo put on headphones? Big deal.
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 06:11 AM (HethX)
Posted by: Excitable Andy Watch at March 15, 2012 06:12 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (sxq57)
it's people like you that might give us 4 more years of Obama. But hey, at least you'll have your integrity, and that's really all that matters, right?
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 15, 2012 06:12 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: 66chevelle at March 15, 2012 06:12 AM (QjSgY)
If you are talking about defeating Obama, and getting him out of office, the popular vote or the perception thereof does not matter. It's electoral votes that will determine if Obama leaves the White House. Electoral votes are awarded on state -by state winners.
If you are talking about whether or not someone is perceived to have a mandate for going forward on their policies, then the perception of popular vote comes into play.
But winning or losing the White House? It's which states go which way.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 06:13 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:13 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 06:13 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:10 AM (X6akg)
Well, shit. Sorry, Miss Tami. ......(slinks off).
Posted by: tubal at March 15, 2012 06:14 AM (BoE3Z)
But now, heÂ’s one of the worst hypocrites respectfully, if I can say that, one of the worst hypocrites in the country is he now on campaign finance reform and you think that once he wins heÂ’s going to get serious about changing the system that he just benefited from?
Posted by: Campaign Finance Watch at March 15, 2012 06:14 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:14 AM (a+5ST)
Why is a Democrat posting on Ace of Spades?
Posted by: Sad Dad at March 15, 2012 06:15 AM (wWZWw)
Wasn't someone blaming ex-moron B-lazer last night?Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 06:15 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: tubal at March 15, 2012 10:14 AM (BoE3Z)
It wasn't you...it was the poster before you.
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 06:15 AM (X6akg)
Alternatively, can anyone tell me how to find SOS's comments besides putting his name in the "find" box and then going through all the comments on recent threads?
Hoping his silence means nothing to report. The alternative isn't a pleasant thought.
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 06:15 AM (gre5a)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 06:17 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Some guy you don't know in Wisconsin at March 15, 2012 06:17 AM (iwTh6)
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 06:17 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:17 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 06:18 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:15 AM (X6akg)
Oh, nevermind.
Posted by: Roseanne Roseannadanna at March 15, 2012 06:18 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 06:18 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jean at March 15, 2012 06:19 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: t-bird at March 15, 2012 06:20 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:20 AM (a+5ST)
We have the bastard under our guard, surrounded by special forces touting machine guns. Quite honestly, ain't it time one of his keepers had a sudden, tragically uncontrollable fit of hiccups that left a bloody Karzai stain on the well that looks remarkably like the Virgin Mary or something?Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 06:21 AM (niZvt)
OK? Check out these interesting facts.
Federated State of Micrnoesia:
In 2008, the country had more Army recruits per capita than any U.S. state. It also has more casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan, per capita. The islands have lost nine soldiers in the wars out of a population of 107,000 — a rate five times the U.S. national average. (Only American Samoa has lost more soldiers, per capita, among U.S. territories.)
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So by some quirk of logic these non-Americans must be more patriotic than PR's, southern rednecks, and, remarkably, the San Fran differently preferenced.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 06:21 AM (eEfYn)
One more thing before I go,there allegedly is a suit by the R's concerning the recess appointment made by Obama, I recall reading a short blurb somewhere, but nothing subsequent. Any thing on that?
Posted by: irongrampa at March 15, 2012 06:21 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: McLovin at March 15, 2012 06:21 AM (j0IcY)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:21 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:13 AM (a+5ST)
To people who don't happen to think meaningful communication, efficiency, and lower administrative costs in the public and private sectors? Yeah, one official language is dumb. Oh, and don't forget people who want to appease their wives.
And when you get a Puerto Rican recruit who doesn't speak a lick of English in boot camp (trust me, it happens more than you'd think)? Yeah, that's real fucking smart.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 06:22 AM (rX1N2)
And nothing builds enthusiasm like disregarding the votes of millions.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 06:23 AM (GZitp)
I missed the progg campaign to boycott food stamps.
Hypocrites.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 06:23 AM (ZKzrr)
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Is this reference to some sort of gay thingy?
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 06:23 AM (eEfYn)
Well, NavyCopJoe is a Dem, isn't he? We let him post.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 06:23 AM (8y9MW)
Jean, there is no way any focus will be given to the issues by the media or anyone else during a brokered convention. Issues won't play a part in that circus. The media will turn it into a free for all dump fest on anyone coming out of that sort of convention and it will give Obama a huge boost.
Keep your slurs about Grandpa to yourself.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 06:23 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: mike at March 15, 2012 06:24 AM (hPrrZ)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:24 AM (a+5ST)
>>you have to pay federal income tax.
Only about half the people. And if you have kids, you can get E[sic]ITC checks just for filing.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 06:26 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 06:26 AM (niZvt)
I just have a low tolerance for bullshit. I prefer to live in the real world, not the world of partisan spin. While I am not a Mitt supporter (being fair, I did vote for him in the FL primary), I also am being realistic that the math works out in his favor. Even if he doesn't have 1144, he will have the most votes. It will be damned hard to deny the person with the most votes the nomination at the convention.
Any other conclusion is just wishful thinking.
By the same token, I also come down hard on the bullshit that Santorum can't beat Obama in the general. The polls don't support that conclusion. Either Mitt or Rick will beat Obama in November, and do it easily. The person with very hard math to overcome is Obama. His path to 270 is very hard, and I believe impossible.
Regardless of who the nominee is, I will walk over broken glass to vote against Obama, and I believe the vast majority of the GOP will do the same. No one will be sitting this one out on our side over some RINO bullshit. If they didn't sit out 2008, they sure as hell won't sit this one out.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 06:26 AM (nMiwq)
Alaska, there about as bad as Puerto Rico in their dependence on the federal government.
True, and they may in actuality be as corrupt as Illinois - they're just a lot smaller - but there's lots of land where nobody will bother you 'cept eskimos and wolves.
Maybe technically you need a permit to build a toolshed but even if the inspector helicopters his ass out there he won't be able to find your underground compound.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 06:26 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 06:26 AM (oZfic)
Santorum is basing his argument on what we used to call "common sense". Language is one of the most important characteristics of a people. There's a reason that Churchill wrote about "English-speaking peoples". Language is the key.
People used to just understand this simple truth about language.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 06:26 AM (X3lox)
Yah, I know. That was why I asked that the next one be linked in the main post.
Beginning to worry just a tad.
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 06:27 AM (gre5a)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:27 AM (a+5ST)
Tradeoff size and spiky foliage to make an explosive statement. It's good to have choices.
Posted by: DaveA at March 15, 2012 06:27 AM (Vc/m8)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 06:28 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:28 AM (a+5ST)
Most islands in general are resource-poor anyways.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:27 AM (a+5ST)
And you always have to worry about everyone going to see the same movie on one side of the island and it tipping over. Living on islands is dangerous.
Posted by: Congress-Geenyus Hank Johnson at March 15, 2012 06:29 AM (X3lox)
Hate to break it to you but overbuilding the highway systems with public money, and gutting private rail freight and private mass transit in the process was a big fucking gift to GM and the rest of the union cocksuckers in Detroit.
If you don't fund urban transit systems urban areas would see vast increases in highway usage and maintenance needs. If the unions weren't bloating mass transit costs in cities the need for highways and the cost of maintaining them in dense urban areas would drop like a rock. I don't think you realize how much of federal highway funding is going to build roads with ridiculously high capacities to low density areas as make work and make maintenance projects for local politicians.
The country is going bankrupt overbuilding and having to maintain roads to nowhere while essential infrastructure for road and rail freight crumbles to dust. If the feds helped Norfolk Southern, UP, and CSX remove the bottlenecks for bi-level freight in the central part of the country the wear and tear on highways from heavy long haul trucking, and the costs of freight transport, would drop dramatically. But nooooo got to keep spending billions on new highway signs with ARRA on them and building/maintaining six lane highways to towns with no industries and less than 5,000 people in them.
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at March 15, 2012 06:29 AM (ijjAe)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:29 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:24 AM (a+5ST)
No shit there's not a national language. Never said Puerto Ricans weren't patriotic either.
The point you obviously missed was that the idea of a national language is far from "dumb".
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 06:30 AM (rX1N2)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 06:30 AM (X3lox)
True, and they may in actuality be as corrupt as Illinois - they're just a lot smaller -
Hold on there, buddy - we've worked pretty damned hard to be # 1! Don't appreciate these bald assertions.
Posted by: the Chicago cronies at March 15, 2012 06:30 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:31 AM (a+5ST)
I'd have to disagree EOJ, but then, you know, asshole for asshole's sake, right?
Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 06:32 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 06:32 AM (i6RpT)
He barely lost there. He still took away a chunk of the delegates.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:28 AM (a+5ST)
Yeah, I know that the campaign rhetoric, but he spent 4 times as much as the other candidates and the people in areas where he would have been strong, stayed home and didn't vote. So, it has to affect his psyche on some level.
Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 06:32 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Jimbo at March 15, 2012 06:32 AM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:31 AM (a+5ST)
Yes. Puerto Ricans have the sweetest deal on Earth.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 06:32 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Jean at March 15, 2012 10:19 AM (WkuV6)
And put Jeb in? Who are we talking about?
Paul Ryan needed to run and needed to run on DOOM! Too late now...
Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 06:32 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:33 AM (a+5ST)
Fine, Puerto Ricans are the most patriotic Americans ever. Happy now?
Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 06:33 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:34 AM (a+5ST)
Did you know that you can sign up for the US military if you are a foreign national? After you finish your service, you get preferential treatment for citizenship. Quite a few soldiers use this as a legal way to become citizens.
This isn't even a new practice, I think it dates back to the 1800s.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 06:34 AM (nMiwq)
Posted by: Little Known Chuck Facts at March 15, 2012 06:34 AM (I8Xca)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:35 AM (a+5ST)
Hey, I have to dish: finally got a job interview on Tuesday! I don't even care what the position is. I just want to have a reason to leave the house every day.
Posted by: Truman North at March 15, 2012 06:35 AM (I2LwF)
With all due respect to my fellow 'rons and 'rettes, I remain.....unconvinced.
Posted by: Jimbo at March 15, 2012 06:36 AM (O3R/2)
Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 06:36 AM (xAtAj)
"So are you against the Founding Father's objections to have a national language?"
They all spoke English. Like everyone else did in the English Colonies. I guess they figured the rest of the country they were inventing would do the same.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 06:37 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:33 AM (a+5ST)
If the Founders were against a national language (even though every single thing they ever wrote for the US government was in English) then they were just wrong. No big deal. Language is just about everything. On top of that, trying to have a judiciary and treaties in multiple languages (given that we have enough problems keeping leftists even close to logic and reason just with plain, clear English) is an invitation to disaster. Lastly, populations will clearly split along language lines (for very obvious reasons).
Now, I am not talking about some insane language police like the idiot French have. That's moronic. But a national language is a must. If it isn't done in law then it will be done in practice ... or the nation will just disintegrate.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 06:37 AM (X3lox)
You don't even have to finish your service to get that preferential treatment. And, yes, I did know- my wife's ex did exactly that: Canadian (IIRC, maybe British, though) National, joined USAF for assistance in getting his citizenship.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 06:38 AM (8y9MW)
To be elected, he'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming across the finish line.
Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 06:38 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 06:39 AM (5H6zj)
To be fair, so will Mitt or Newt.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 06:39 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:40 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:40 AM (a+5ST)
*snort* This isn't a course in self esteem. Winning a nomination is about many things, not the least of which is having money and an organization. So he spent 4 times as much money? Who do you want going up against the Obama money juggernaut? A pauper?
I'm pretty sure Romney is sleeping just fine and he grinds out wins. His strategy is very similar to Obama's primary strategy of picking up delegates a little bit at a time.
Frankly, I think this whole process makes Romney a lot stronger. It shows me that he is willing to do the grunt work, and has the intestinal fortitude to grind it out.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 06:40 AM (nMiwq)
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The Federated States of Micronesia is an independent country. They were formerly a US Trust Territory. Micronesia is an 'Associated State' of the US by treaty (Compact of Free Association). That essentially means they are a formal protectorate of the US.
Note the use of Associated State here for a protectorate. The Spanish term for Puerto Rico is translated as Associated Free State which tends to imply independence from the US when in fact they are not and in English they are a (self-governing (of debatable level)) Commonwealth. This is just one illustration of the difficulties introduced with multi-lingualism.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 06:41 AM (eEfYn)
Be Prepared for 24/7 Obama
The MSM and Hollywood are going to double down on Obama. He will be on every major TV show and at every major sporting event.
And how is this different from what we're getting now? I can't even go grocery shopping without seeing one of the Obamas' faces on a magazine on any given day.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 06:41 AM (bMLFV)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 06:41 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Fritz at March 15, 2012 06:41 AM (/ZZCn)
You've all convinced me to part with my formerly racist ways.
Instead of Puerto Rico joining the US, the US should join awesome fantastic patriotic Puerto Rico.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 06:42 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 06:42 AM (ZOIWB)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:43 AM (a+5ST)
But the MESSAGE isn't, is it? Because I don't speak spanish. Or german. Or italian.
I speak english.
When my leaders are so cavalier as to make me the alien in my own country, civil war is next.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 15, 2012 06:43 AM (0tRzD)
Posted by: Truman North at March 15, 2012 10:35 AM (I2LwF)
Yay! On the downside, you'll have to start wearing pants again.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 06:43 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 06:43 AM (5H6zj)
Stupid or obtuse?
There is no problem with a specific population speaking their own regional language among themselves. For trade, government, and any other cross-regional interactions, a national language is a requirement- in fact if not in name. A "nation" which has no unified language is not a nation- and will not retain its sovereignty for long.
Even if you're not a believer, the Bible has a lot of good object lessons- read about the Tower of Babel sometime.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 06:43 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:44 AM (a+5ST)
That goes against your argument. The Amish are quite visibly separate.
Posted by: fluffy at March 15, 2012 06:45 AM (vRSeu)
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That introduces a whole new level of complexity with regard to translation. There is enough ambiguity within the original language. Then issues with translation/transliteration are introduced. Obama would love it; fits his style.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 06:45 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:39 AM (8y9MW)
Not nearly as much. They just drag their feet. Mitt plays the centrist, Newt doesn't moralize. Santorum simply evokes disgust on my facebook feed, if that's any indicator. Libertarians loath him. Even my liberal friend who is abandoning the D's this year(DOOM! related reasons and Obama's lying ass) won't vote for him.
I'll vote for Santorum. I'll crawl over broken glass to do so. But he will almost certainly lose unless Obama really starts falling apart in likability.
Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 06:45 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:45 AM (a+5ST)
This is why I like seeing this nomination drag out. He is forced to adopt these positions, and be ready to drop the lines casually.
I could hear liberal heads exploding over that line.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 06:46 AM (nMiwq)
On the up side, that's still a step (if a small one) to the Right.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 06:46 AM (8y9MW)
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True. In most Amish households, the Amish outnumber the non-Amish.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 06:47 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 06:47 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 15, 2012 06:47 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 10:42 AM (ZOIWB)
I'm a dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude!
Posted by: Sgt. Osiris at March 15, 2012 06:48 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: DaMav at March 15, 2012 06:48 AM (EqxtD)
As long as America stays Indo-European, I think we'll manage. Just need to keep the Finno-Ugrians at bay.
I cannot deal with another 7 and a half months of daily polls. Every time I see Obama ahead nationally or in some region, it makes me pick my nose. I find the underside of my desk utterly crusted with snot.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 15, 2012 06:48 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Y-not gets her Rocky Horror on at March 15, 2012 06:48 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:48 AM (a+5ST)
Don't forget Ohio and Indiana. Yet, the Lehman's catalog is printed in English.
Posted by: fluffy at March 15, 2012 06:49 AM (vRSeu)
You do know that bills can be written in Spanish but surprisingly no one does that in the US Congress. Hell, the President can issue an Executive Order in Spanish and the meaning will still be the same.
You've convinced me to abandon my formerly racist ways.
korekaranihongowahanashimasu.
gamanda,desuka?
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 06:49 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 06:50 AM (ZOIWB)
Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 06:51 AM (oZfic)
Nevertheless, he does not hate America, so I will vote for him. But I am bracing myself already for a lot of disappointment either way.
Yes, I can see the blog comments now. Troll: Your President is an idiot and a hypocrite; AoSHQ Moron: You're absolutely right.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 06:51 AM (bMLFV)
Have you ever been west of the Connecticut River? "Urban mass transit" is less than useless in 90% of the country.
My brother-in-law manages "mass transit" for a town of 25k in Iowa (federal money). It's a fucking joke. They maintain and run buses, and the ridership is six old people who never go anywhere except downtown during normal business hours. (He himself has never ridden a bus, except when they went to Kansas City to pick one up, he had to drive it back.) Everyone else who lives there actually has to be able to get around--including being able to leave town for work.
Federally-funded mass transit is such a fucking joke that when they held a conference in Indianapolis last summer, the participants all rented cars to get downtown (which is walkable for most people).
But he gets to go see MLB games around the country on junkets, so it's a good job.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 06:52 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:53 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 06:53 AM (5H6zj)
That's dangerously inaccurate. Barky is, first and foremost, ineligible. Secondly, he isn't liberal or moderate or anything in the American political spectrum. Barky is out to destroy America. Period. I'd even take a liberal wet turd like Kucinich over Barky any day of the week.
Romney is awful and he's trying to make it as painful as possible for anyone to vote for him (not sure why, but he seems to like to emulate McShame, who beat his butt senseless in the 2008 primary), but he would still be an infinite improvement over the Ineligible Idiot from Indonesia.
But, it seems that Romney wants to toy with the idea of making people form a third party (which will certainly happen right after the 2012 election, as the GOP will be totally useless after that event). I wish he would just go away, myself, but Mittens is going to stay and try to muck things up as much as he is able. That just seems to be the way Romney is.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 06:53 AM (X3lox)
Hey. Here in Kenosha we've only got 4.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 06:53 AM (P6QsQ)
I'm sorry, when did the (German-speaking-only) Amish integrate with mainstream American Society? 'Cause I must have missed that memo. You do know that, when they're interacting with people outside the Amish community (not all that often, but it happens) they speak English, yes? And that City Amish (I think they have a specific name for that group, but that's how I've always heard them called) speak English.
I don't have a problem with Mexican populations in certain areas speaking Spanish amongst themselves, either. But the moment you attempt to cater to all languages in your business, let alone in Government, you introduce a level of complexity that is unsustainable. If you were to attempt to actually govern multilingually, you'd find the Government (any government) tearing itself apart pretty quickly.
The issue with their not being an "official" national language just means we don't care which specific language we all use- but, make no mistake, for the Government to govern, and for businesses to do business, a national language is essential. English is that national language- in fact, though not name- and (with some rare exceptions) lack of even basic fluency is a huge hurdle to overcome- sometimes impossible.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 06:53 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 06:55 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:55 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: navybrat at March 15, 2012 06:55 AM (GT6tU)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 06:56 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 06:56 AM (a+5ST)
It is ridiculous that Puerto Ricans are allowed to vote in the GOP primary. They aren't even American. Somebody should look into this.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 06:56 AM (EgUGc)
Romney is awful and he's trying to make it as painful as possible for anyone to vote for him (not sure why, but he seems to like to emulate McShame, who beat his butt senseless in the 2008 primary),
Because he's listening to his advisors. Yet, another occupation that "earns" a paycheck doing a very inadequate job. Right up there with meteorologist and politician.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 06:57 AM (bMLFV)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 06:58 AM (5H6zj)
We are talking about the language of government and commerce. English.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 06:58 AM (P6QsQ)
Honestly, I think refusing to expect Latin Americans who come to the U.S. to learn English is racism. The "we have to print everything in Spanish" proggs are saying the Spanish-speakers are too dumb/lazy to learn English. It's the voter ID argument, only on the ballot.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 07:00 AM (ZKzrr)
The benefit of being a Cynic is that when you're wrong, it almost always means you're pleasantly surprised.
But I'm with you.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 07:00 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (a+5ST)
They speak Amishian. Sheesh. "Wheeling and dealing" (I don't know how they say that in Amishian) in those buggies.
Posted by: Barky the Tardy from Jakarty at March 15, 2012 07:01 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (a+5ST)
My friend was raised in Switzerland and she was surprised to find out they spoke the same swiss german that she speaks with her family. It's called Pennsylvania Dutch usually this is the first time I've heard it referred to as Pennsylvania German so by including the German part you must be attempting to make some point?
Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 07:01 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:01 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 07:02 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:58 AM (a+5ST)
Ooooooh...you called EOJ a troll?
Wait....I need to go make popcorn.
Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 07:03 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 07:03 AM (8y9MW)
the Netherlands.
It's a corruption of "Deustch", not a reference to the Netherlands.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 07:03 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: doug at March 15, 2012 07:04 AM (gUGI6)
Gas taxes are intended to pay for roads used by gasoline cars.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:04 AM (YdQQY)
Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:58 A
EOJ has more "internet cred" than you do based on tenure alone. I'm relatively new here, and I'd advise not throwing the troll moniker on the long term regulars. They don't tolerate slander here real well.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 07:04 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 07:04 AM (5H6zj)
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Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:06 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 15, 2012 07:06 AM (l/N7H)
Why are you being belligerent?
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 15, 2012 07:07 AM (0tRzD)
Nonono. We don't protect the idiots from EoJ. We let them handle them in his own... unique fashion.
Been here since 2006. Thanks for the good thoughts though
*Tweeeeet* 2 minutes for BS-ing.
Anyone here that long would know EoJ. Heck, I've only been here a couple of years, and EoJ is one of the commenters I look for.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 07:07 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:07 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:08 AM (a+5ST)
Those damn Republicans and their war on women are at it again. Now they oppose the "Don't Punch a Woman Act".
Some detect a "whiff" of politics in the timing. Really??? A "whiff"??? I guess we're on to page 2 of the Democrat playbook for the fall election.
Posted by: rockhead at March 15, 2012 07:08 AM (ZMHGo)
Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 07:09 AM (oZfic)
Do they self-identify as American, or Puerto Rican?
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 07:09 AM (P6QsQ)
Spare me. You were not. You were insulting and were corrected. Quit whining. BTW, I was told by Gman to Fuck off and I hadn't even spoken to him nor read his comment so get over your little self. Did you not get enough trophies?
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 07:09 AM (u50z0)
"That's better than 0 of the 10 illegals that comes from Mexico."
Nonsense. Those fellows that mowed my yard, they understood waht I was saying. Perfectly.
Posted by: Mittens Romney at March 15, 2012 07:09 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 07:10 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:10 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: jewells45 at March 15, 2012 11:06 AM (l/N7H)
Pay attention next time. The circular firing squad rallies at 1200. BE THERE!
Posted by: Hedgehog at March 15, 2012 07:10 AM (3jGS1)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:11 AM (a+5ST)
That's not saying much. We just saw this Congress pass gargantuan, insane legislation without ever reading it, at all, and proudly proclaiming that fact. In fact, during the Porkulus, people were specifically told that they had to vote for the bill sight unseen ... and they did and no one went to jail.
So ... by that standard the language of legislation wouldn't matter at all, but by normal, regular standards of sentient people (not affirmative action rules for retards). But, if you think that a multi-lingual legislature is reasonable (for a real country, not a fake one that does pretty much nothing of value and exists not of its own efforts but because other, real countries allow them to declare themselves nations) then you need to radically reassess what it is that you think forms, maintains and propels nations forward.
And language is much more than just a means of communication. It includes whole piecs of human personality in it. People change to adapt to the language they must speak and society changes with them. Like I said, there's a reason that Churchill wrote about "English Speaking Peoples", using language as the line of demarcation. Language is culture in many ways. Very many ways. The idea that different languages involve nothing but different "translations" and "utterances" to express the same exact idea is ridiculous. Different languages are built around totally different world-views and those views are reflected in the language and forced on the speakers.
Language is not just a meaningless facade. It is a very deep characteristic of a peoples.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 07:11 AM (X3lox)
"Japanese. You western idiot?"
Question mark? No "ka", "da". Desu, less politely, desuka?
I have to admit I'm impressed you actually managed to translate my jinglish though.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 07:12 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 07:12 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Greg at March 15, 2012 07:14 AM (J3Ovp)
Pfft. Never saw a Puerto Rican I served with hang a tiny American flag from his rearview mirror. Or put an American flag bumper sticker on his bumper.
They were all Puerto Rican flags. That's certainly patriotic. Just like guys in Germany who sport German flags are patriotic. For Germany.
Guess what else? More Samoans serve in the Army per capita than Puerto Ricans, mijo. Same for the Guamanians I served with. Not because they're necessarily patriotic (though some are) but because they live on a fucking island and it's the only way they can afford to leave. Just like Puerto Ricans.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 07:15 AM (EgUGc)
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 07:15 AM (5H6zj)
The definition of troll to a Mitt supporter is a conservative.
Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 11:12 AM (5H6zj)
ooooo that was a good one.....
Well he keeps racking up the stupid.....when beck played the meghan kelly interview, beck, a fellow mormon, you decided that mittens was totally clueless and had he read the threads indicating all the stuff the dems will throw at him, he's decided he's going to emphasize the "I'm rich and suck it up if you don't like it" theme. Wow, that's going to go over real well with those middle class independents...
Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (oZfic)
If I go to a DMV in Port Rice can I get a japanese translator?
Port Rice needs to be inclusive if it wants to be a state.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 07:17 AM (ZOIWB)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:17 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: Greg at March 15, 2012 07:17 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: David, sockpuppeted troll at March 15, 2012 07:18 AM (UtoLw)
What can I say? I like Anime. Subs, not dubs.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 07:20 AM (8y9MW)
The idea that different languages involve nothing but different "translations" and "utterances" to express the same exact idea is ridiculous.
There is a reason there is no computer that can do even a half decent job of translating English to Japanese or Chinese.
That is also I suspect the reason most translated Chinese menus call pork soup "Old Man Very Happy Explodes Reluctantly Rainbows On Porcine Mountain Setting; Make Swollen Contentedness".
Studying non-indo-european languages can lead to interesting insights about the nature of language and the effect it can have on what you will even want to say, or think is important.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 07:22 AM (TULs6)
Mitt is everything that has been wrong with the GOP for decades. He is a diluted Democrat.
Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 11:17 AM (ZOIWB)
I don't much worry about that because I have confidence that it will be exceedingly easy to impeach Mittens and throw his butt out if he tries anything like Barky has been doing. America is itching to impeach and convict a President and put some rational limits back in that office after all the incredible damage that Barky has done to it. I'm actually looking forward to voting for Mittens (if I must) and then impeaching his sorry ass 6 months later when he starts pulling his shit with "replacing" ObamaCare. That would finally put some fear in the GOP dipshits and might even give the left a moment of pause. Jailing Barky and his junta would be much better, of course, but we have to deal with the nation we have ...
Elect and Impeach 2012
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 07:22 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:24 AM (a+5ST)
Posted by: gm at March 15, 2012 07:24 AM (K0tm3)
Except this isn't true <<<
Thanks for the boner.
As of 2006, American Samoa had the highest per-capita combat KIA rate of ANY state or territory. Get your fucking learn on.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 07:25 AM (EgUGc)
Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 07:27 AM (oZfic)
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Except this isn't true ---- (Kaitian)
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Per capita recruits (per 10,000 pop) with ranking:
Guam 1 -- 14.5
American Samoa 6 -- 6.9
Puerto Rico 55 (Last place) -- 0.4
Weighted Average -- 4.9
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 07:27 AM (eEfYn)
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Yes. You are an idiot. Please have a nice day!
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 07:31 AM (eEfYn)
“New problems that have cropped up in Chinese society will not be fundamentally resolved and such a historical tragedy as the Cultural Revolution may happen again,” the premier added, in remarks that were broadcast live on national television. “The mistake of the Cultural Revolution and impact of feudalism are yet to be fully eliminated.”
Posted by: China Watch at March 15, 2012 07:42 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 07:43 AM (OXg8r)
Because how?
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I was responding to your YES in a general way. My error. I apologize for the confusion. Please see comments 100- 638 above but mostly comment 638.
Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 07:47 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 07:47 AM (bMLFV)
The Democrat party truly cannot comprehend a woman going to vote who is more concerned about the dent in her paycheck caused by $5-per-gallon gasoline than finding free condoms, or who worries about the future impoverishment of her children and grandchildren because of Obama's borrow and spend binges more than she worries about buying the Pill, or whose most pressing concern is not sexual liberty, but a college-graduate son or daughter who has moved back to live with mom because s/he can't find a job and therefore can't make student loan payments and rent at the same time.
Not in the Dems' world view is a woman who pays her mortgage every month but who know that her home's market value is less than the mortgage principal remaining, and stupidly thinks that this is more important to her future (and thus her voting) than getting morning-after pills. There is no room in Democrat gender-identity politics for a woman who has been married to one man for 35 years and so never thinks about getting free contraceptives or an abortion (that is, what Dems say is "basic health care") but who is intensely concerned with her elderly parents' net worth falling as inflation rises.
No, these women simply do not authentically exist in the Democrat universe. Such women simply have not heard the full message that there should be nothing more important to a woman than sex, sex, sex.
To the Democrat party, women are simply sex objects, though with political and statist rather than fleshly purposes. But objects is all they are. That's the real message that countless women get very well and strongly reject.
Posted by: sexual objectification of women at March 15, 2012 07:51 AM (e8kgV)
Yes. You are an idiot. Please have a nice day!
Hai,bakadesu. Dewamatane. Gomennasai! Itadekimasu!
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 07:52 AM (TULs6)
site:minx.cc "stuckonstupid at march 12, 2012"
AOSHQ gets crawled regular so anything new shows up quick.
Posted by: DaveA at March 15, 2012 07:54 AM (hRgT/)
Posted by: sexual objectification of women at March 15, 2012 07:54 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:16 AM (a+5ST)
Go back to Nazistan you filthy sausage humping kraut.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 15, 2012 07:55 AM (6BgmB)
The Democrat party truly cannot comprehend a woman going to vote who is more concerned about the dent in her paycheck caused by $5-per-gallon
gasoline than finding free condoms
What irritates me is that no one even argues on whether or not "women" support the democrat position. Women's issues, war on women.... pro-life women are not women but rather androgynous sex-traitors. A woman is defined implicitly as being in no small part a marxist communist by virtue of her vagina.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 07:57 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:49 AM (OXg8r)
Troll red herrings often contain a heavily deviant sexual tone.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 07:59 AM (bMLFV)
Hell we can probably bribe one of the locals to give us a 99 year lease.
For like a bucket of plastic beads and a bottle of Hennessy, no less.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 07:59 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: bustermcd at March 15, 2012 08:27 AM (0AX8H)
Pretty much. I had compulsory English classes in primary school when I lived overseas - that didn't mean all the gov't business and such were conducted in English.
So uh, Gabe brought up a non sequitur to ding Santorum. Again.
Oh, never mind, it's worse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico#Language
The official languages [of Puerto Rico] are Spanish and English with Spanish being the primary language.
Gabe, either you didn't do the research, or you're deliberately trying to deceive us. You're shooting yourself in the foot here.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 08:10 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 08:11 AM (TULs6)
Claiming that it's in the school curriculum is not the same as saying that the Commonwealth is bi-lingual.
Wonzu. Hotu. Doggu. Pleezu.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 08:13 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 08:13 AM (TULs6)
Everyone in Japan speaks English.
Pasokan. That's english. Paso, kan... personal computer. Don't you speak english, bakagaijin?
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 08:17 AM (TULs6)
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Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 08:36 AM (OXg8r)
Mostly this site was originally invented as a place to hook up with local Thai ladyboys.
Things just kind of escalated.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 08:40 AM (TULs6)
I wasn't sure from the wording if he believes that it is morally wrong, or that it is wrong to interpret the Constitution that way. But he believes that moral "right" at the federal level trumps law at the state level.
He also believes that the federal government has a moral obligation to ban things that are against strict Catholic religious doctrine. He believe contraceptives themselves should be banned, for example. Not the banning of federal money to purchase them, but the fact that they are available at all is bad and is a reason for the crumbling of the moral fabric of the nation. As a Protestant (Episcopal), I have some serious problems with this.
He has stated that the states have a higher moral contract which trumps the constitution and he has also said that there is effectively no limit to federal government powers to regulate immoral activity. Now not all of these were said at the same time. They were on different subjects, but it gives a better idea of where this idiot's head is. The notion of there being no limit to federal government power was in the context of SOPA and the ability of the government to control what people do on the Internet. But if he believes the government has that power coupled with his statement on state constitutional powers being trumped by "moral right", it is clear this man is a far right statist.
I have no problems with someone who holds deep religious convictions. I have SERIOUS PROBLEMS with someone who would attempt to use government to enforce their personal deep religious convictions on the land as a whole.
If he doesn't think contraceptives are a good idea, fine, he doesn't have to use them in his family. He has the right to attempt to educate and persuade. He does NOT have the right to tell people who believe otherwise that they can not obtain them which he appears to believe the federal government has the power to do.
The man is a flat out lunatic.
Just google "crazy santorum" and look at some of the stuff he has said going all the way back to the 1990's. And also remind yourself that he had THE LOWEST job approval rating of any Senator by his constituents of any Senator ever in recorded. It is no wonder he lost his seat in the Senate with an approval rating in the 30's.
The more I dig into the stuff this man has said, he looks like either a maniac or an idiot. I haven't been able to decide yet which.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 08:45 AM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: Billionairebratwithbrains at March 15, 2012 08:48 AM (uhPd1)
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 08:55 AM (u50z0)
You've got that wrong. It's not that there's a "moral right" at the federal level - it's that there's a moral law that is more fundamental than either the federal or state level. Ex: The lack of legislation restricting slavery 200 years ago does not mean that American slavery was morally good. We don't all agree on what's moral law or not, but all of the gov't laws we do have are intended to enforce a moral law - the least common denominator that we (sort of) agree on.
The contraception stuff from Santorum isn't that he wants to ban the stuff. His opinion that he shared is that they cause harm to society, but he's also stated that he thinks the gov't should not ban them, either. Dock points for possibly alienating voters with a "crazy stance", but no need to put words into his mouth.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 08:58 AM (sGtp+)
http://tinyurl.com/88wnmot
Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 09:04 AM (ZbLJZ)
No, he said in his own words out of his own mouth:
The notion that the state governments have all powers except those specifically prohibited by the constitution is wrong.
I watched him say it.
He has said the government should ban contraceptives. He has said the government should ban porn. The man is a little right wing statist tyrant no better than the left wing statist tyrants.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 09:06 AM (ZbLJZ)
Obama is a marxist critical race theorist and a black theology adherant so if you're white you'd better worry if this guy gets elected again.
You'd better worry if any of these bozos get elected. Worry much. The only thing that could possibly save America now would be if a cute cockerspaniel somehow pulled off a brokered convention nomination.
Any way you slice it we are in for DOOM.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 09:07 AM (TULs6)
unless we're against open-ended Constitutional interpretation only when it's convenient.
Good news!
Well... not really good... Not really news either...
Discouraging statements of obvious fact!
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (TULs6)
2nd one, so?
Let's look at it this way.
How many wrong-door no-knock raids does the societal impact of winning the War on Nudity justify?
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 09:13 AM (TULs6)
This man is a NUT.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 09:15 AM (ZbLJZ)
The notion that the state governments have all powers except those specifically prohibited by the constitution is wrong.
This is wrong. Powers not allocated to the federal gov't are reserved for the state and the people. The idea that each state can be its own fiefdom is wrong, because we can and will restrict what states can do, if they're doing something like enslaving a portion of their population.
If the state tramples on powers reserved to the people, then the state gov't needs to be smacked down, even if the constitution doesn't expressly say to do so. We the people can tell the federal gov't to do so, because that's our reserved power.
He has said the government should ban contraceptives. He has said the government should ban porn. The man is a little right wing statist tyrant no better than the left wing statist tyrants.
You're going to have to link me the source to accept what you're saying, because I'd like a chance to parse the actual words instead of taking your summary on faith.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 09:17 AM (v3pYe)
oh noes! he's gonna lose the critical Reason "Porn Is Better Than Religion" Magazine swing vote!
He tries to ban porn he's going to lose more than that.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 09:20 AM (TULs6)
http://tinyurl.com/88wnmot
Here's what was actually said:
"The Obama Administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws."
If the law is on the books, shouldn't it be enforced? And if it's not enforceable, then perhaps it it needs to be stricken. The executive isn't supposed to pick and choose which laws he likes to enforce.
It's a valid criticism of Obama's governing style, and you turn it into a talking point about protecting our rights to pornography.
BTW, protecting doesn't need to mean "ban". It could mean restrict. We restrict alcohol (based on age, or while driving), for example - is that a ban on drinking?
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 09:24 AM (sGtp+)
This man is a NUT.
I have no issue with you disagreeing with Santorum. I have a SERIOUS problem with anyone who mangles quotes out of context and twists words.
I don't believe you're doing that intentionally. Please don't prove me wrong.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (v3pYe)
Santorum looks and acts more and more like an Obama campaign plant every day. Wot a tewl.
Now he wants to go after internet pr0n. Just what this country needs right now is a crusade against internet boobehs.
Not like theres much happening with the economy or in foreign affairs, so...yeah, let's have that discussion. Never mind 4 years of 8+% unemployment, a Mideast verging on an historic and apocalyptic collapse. Gotta crack down on them horny housewives and the pool men who love them.
Posted by: MD at March 15, 2012 09:37 AM (ytKgL)
BTW, protecting doesn't need to mean "ban".
Maybe you should keep reading.
If elected, he promises to “vigorously” enforce laws that “prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier.”
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 09:53 AM (TULs6)
Thanks for the links. I think I'm up-to-date. Just wondering (worried) about not hearing anything yesterday. Che-boy and the che-bots seem to be spiraling out of control.
I'll go with the theory that no news is good news for the time being.
Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 10:13 AM (gre5a)
I support Rush Limbaugh when he calls people sluts. Regardless of who it is, because it is funny.
But putting sluts in jail for being sluts? That is a bridge too far.
If they can prohibit "obscene" pictures, with no redeeming value that degrade our society, why can they not prohibit obscene verbage with no redeeming value that degrades our society?
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:16 AM (TULs6)
You know who else liked porn? Hitler.
Actually I think he hated porn. At least, he viscerally hated filthy prostitutes and sluts.
Nazi whorehouses were literally for procreation purposes.
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:19 AM (TULs6)
Oh, absolutely. A 12 gauge (which is the standard cop issue) would do the trick quite nicely, especially loaded with slugs.
I wouldn't go any smaller than a 16 gauge, though.
I'd hope that two or more cops would show up with pump action 12 gauge shotguns in that situation. My single-shot break action 12 gauge is fine for pheasants and stuff, but you want a lot more UMPH to bring down something that big. Wounding is just not good enough.
Posted by: Mr_Write at March 15, 2012 10:21 AM (VJUQK)
Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth...Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:24 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: steevy at March 15, 2012 11:56 AM (7W3wI)
If elected, he promises to “vigorously” enforce laws that “prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier.”
Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:53 PM (TULs6)
Then take that up with your Congress who voted those laws in place.
Or do you want to develop a system of gov't where laws are enforced based on the personal whim of the president? How's Obama working out for you?
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