March 23, 2012

Top Headline Comments 3-23-12
— Gabriel Malor

FRIDAY! WOOOOOOOO!!

57% of Americans say the government should approve Keystone XL, all of it and not just the bottom half. That includes majorities of Republicans and independents and a plurality of Democrats.

Speaker Boehner's office provided this helpful visual aid:

Liberals now outnumber conservatives in just one state, Massachusetts, and the District of Columbia. Nationwide, conservatives outnumber liberals by nearly two to one.

Environmentalists dispute GOP claims that Obama is an economy-destroying envirowackjob because they didn't get ponies with their anti-prosperity EPA and DOE regulations, or something.

The strange underground booms in Clintonville, Wisconsin, made the NYTimes print version. It's a weird situation and nobody seems to know anything.

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1 I feel outnumbered.

Posted by: Red in Maine at March 23, 2012 03:01 AM (UryaP)

2 Mornin' Morons!

Posted by: mugiwara at March 23, 2012 03:01 AM (KI/Ch)

3 Morning.

Posted by: dogfish at March 23, 2012 03:04 AM (N2yhW)

4 coffee...

Posted by: real joe at March 23, 2012 03:06 AM (w7Lv+)

5 Liberals now outnumber conservatives in just one state, Massachusetts, and the District of Columbia. ::eyeroll::

Posted by: sickinmass at March 23, 2012 03:06 AM (bcNec)

6
Re: Drudge

Maybe Santorum isn't altogether wrong?

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 23, 2012 03:12 AM (7+pP9)

7 The underground booms? Sorry about that, we sort of pigged out on Taco Night.

Posted by: The Wisonsin Mole People at March 23, 2012 03:15 AM (+MbqG)

8 A Romney Presidency will be the second term of Bush 41; discuss.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at March 23, 2012 03:16 AM (caupe)

9 Romney Presidency will be the second term of Bush 41; discuss. It may be the third term of Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Red in Maine at March 23, 2012 03:19 AM (BdP+C)

10 Heard somewhere else the thought on the Wisconsin noises are the granite bedrock fracturing.  They think it is less than a mille down and therefore isn't considered an earthquake (or I guess well detected by earthquake monitoring equipment?).

Posted by: dogfish at March 23, 2012 03:20 AM (N2yhW)

11 >>The strange underground booms in Clintonville, Wisconsin

I'm mildly surprised no one has blamed Scott Walker.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2012 03:24 AM (hO8IJ)

12 >>7 The underground booms? Part of the (psy-op) 188 theory?

Posted by: sickinmass at March 23, 2012 03:28 AM (bcNec)

13 Romney Presidency will be the second term of Bush 41; discuss.
It may be the third fourth term of Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: Red in Maine at March 23, 2012 07:19 AM (BdP+C)



FIFY

Posted by: Baraka Obama at March 23, 2012 03:28 AM (KI/Ch)

14

The strange underground booms in Clintonville, Wisconsin<<<

 

Jews.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 23, 2012 03:30 AM (DiqH3)

15 I'm sure Wisconsin lefties think it is Gaia getting upset with them as the state turns less blue. Probably sacrificing a virgin at a OWS camp first.  Will get around to the finger pointing shortly.

Posted by: dogfish at March 23, 2012 03:30 AM (N2yhW)

16 As part of Obama's Stimulus program, Area 51 relocated to Clintonville. It created or saved millions of jobs. 

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at March 23, 2012 03:30 AM (sFLSe)

17 Probably sacrificing a virgin at a OWS camp first.

Posted by: dogfish at March 23, 2012 07:30 AM (N2yhW)

 

 

Wait, there are virgins among the owsies? Or are we including males?

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 23, 2012 03:33 AM (MOcee)

18 The GOP add is nice and all, I guess. It's just that it's milk-toast, vanilla at best. Is it like the missile gap? I think we need harsher language along the lines of: OBAMA IS A FUCKING DEUSCHEBAG LIAR FACE. Or words to that effect.

Posted by: McLovin at March 23, 2012 03:36 AM (j0IcY)

19 Well, like a virgin, Madonna style.

Posted by: dogfish at March 23, 2012 03:36 AM (N2yhW)

20 Forty percent identify as conservative, 36 percent as moderate, and 21 percent liberal. That 36% moderate is really libs that are embarrassed to admit it.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2012 03:37 AM (mFxQX)

21 And as to how people classify themselves, it's voting that counts and who you put into office. I can classify myself as tall, dark and handsome, but the reality of situation is quite different.

Posted by: McLovin at March 23, 2012 03:39 AM (j0IcY)

22

Why is everyone making such a fuss about the noise?

Just doing a little remodeling. I have to make some more room. We´re expecting a crowd.

Posted by: Satan at March 23, 2012 03:40 AM (FuDYO)

23 Yeah, depending on how these surveys are worded, I wouldn't put much (any) faith in something that suggests a 2-1 con over lib advantage. Most likely, libs just don't like the word. Which is understandable. And phony, but heck, they are libs after all.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2012 03:41 AM (Gc/Qi)

24 BBC is full of anti-Catholicism since the Pope is visiting Mexico and Cuba.  I heard stuff early this morning that made me get up and turn off the radio.  Unbelievable.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 03:42 AM (GoIUi)

25 I would say that the 36% moderate are just squishes in the middle who aren't paying attention. Anyone who tries to find out some truths usually winds up on the conservative side.

Posted by: JimK at March 23, 2012 03:43 AM (sUSBY)

26 Moderates are also those people that get fed up with both sides. The real problem with trying to identify moderates is that they are all over the place.

Posted by: Satan at March 23, 2012 03:45 AM (FuDYO)

27 21 - I think it can and often does depend on your reference points though. For example, that tall, dark and handsome thing, I'd say 2/3 of that would be accurate if you were comparing me to Mitt Romney. Compared to Barack Obama though, just 1/3. Compared to RP, I'm a good, clean 3/3! (I'm always handsome though, that's just objectively true)

Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2012 03:46 AM (Gc/Qi)

28 <<The strange underground booms in Clintonville, Wisconsin>>

The USGS has come out and said it was a 1.5 magnitude earthquake that made the sounds and that it is unlikely the sounds would be made by an earthquake that small. Your government working just as you'd expect.

>Earthquakes can generate seismic energy that moves through rock at thousands of miles per hour, producing a sonic boom when the waves come to the surface, Caruso said.

"To be honest, I'm skeptical that there'd be a sound report associated with such a small earthquake, but it's possible," he said.<

http://www.startribune.com/local/143878936.html

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 23, 2012 03:46 AM (tf9Ne)

29 When Obama first promised "half a pipeline" the image of a bridge to nowhere came to mind.

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 03:48 AM (lpWVn)

30 Morning all. Yeah okay Romney might suck but think Supreme Court justices. That is my primary reason for voting Repub.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at March 23, 2012 03:49 AM (Vfa18)

31 I don't know if Vic announced his absence ahead of time, but I'm hoping all is well. I miss his roundups. And with that, I'm off. Underground Wisconsin isn't going to sledgehammer itself.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 23, 2012 03:51 AM (Gc/Qi)

32 The Iranians are testing their nukes. Proabably in the physics lab of the University of Wisconsin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 23, 2012 03:51 AM (Af3Wg)

33

If I am not the Republican nominee you should all vote Democrat.

That will save the country if I am not the nominee.

Posted by: Rick Santorum at March 23, 2012 03:52 AM (zKFOT)

34 If I stay drunk enough between now and November, Romney may look like a good candidate.  Interestingly enough, I cannot get so sober that Obama looks better than Romney.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2012 03:55 AM (i3+c5)

35 Rick Santorum- often wrong but never in doubt.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 23, 2012 03:57 AM (mFxQX)

36 Arkansas was having problems like Wisconsin...it was reportedly related to fracking.  Anyone know if that could be the case there as well?

Posted by: kawfytawk at March 23, 2012 03:57 AM (VIm97)

37 I don't know why people keep bringing up Supreme Court picks. At best Romney will seek to keep the status quo. Most likely he will try to make it more "moderate" which in real terms will be more liberal.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at March 23, 2012 03:59 AM (WU3T3)

38 Maybe Santorum isn't altogether wrong?
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Maybe, since neither "Repo Man" nor Santorum will correct our economy and secure our Liberty. Aside from sour grapes, Santorum's "attack" sounds like a spoiled crybaby, "me, me, only me; I'll Attack China!" In debate, he promised repeatedly to endorse whichever candidate won the Republican Primary against Obama. Regarding the only alternative to the status quo, Santorum already endorsed Ron Paul as the only fiscal conservative alternative to the Republican contestants and Obama. And regarding protecting and upholding the US Constitution, Mitt Romney in debate deferred to Republican Ron Paul as "our constitutional candidate".

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 04:00 AM (lpWVn)

39 {i}24 BBC is full of anti-Catholicism since the Pope is visiting Mexico and Cuba. I heard stuff early this morning that made me get up and turn off the radio. Unbelievable. {/i} what were they saying?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at March 23, 2012 04:00 AM (fuw6p)

40 If you are a Catholic who takes your faith seriously,  you will vote for me.  Those Romney supporters?  They are going to Hell.

Rick Santorum

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 04:01 AM (GoIUi)

41 Somebody up-thread said that Madonna was a virgin. Wow, I was not aware of that. A filthy whore who has never been fucked. That is the textbook definition of conundrum.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:03 AM (5KvzL)

42 I'm guessing Orcs with a Balrog is causing the booms. Heck, that seems as good an explanation as the USGS's...

Posted by: HH at March 23, 2012 04:03 AM (KB0hv)

43

Oh my...just got a lookk at the college co-ed, racist-freak-out. Good Lord what has Liberal, Black Theology- indoctrination wrought.

**

Some one should caption the video, hard to understand all the comedy gold and sadness.

**

Morn' all.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at March 23, 2012 04:03 AM (8ieXv)

44 Iranians are testing their nukes. Proabably in the physics lab of the University of Wisconsin.
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Or many major research universities across America.

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 04:03 AM (lpWVn)

45 30 When Obama first promised "half a pipeline" the image of a bridge to nowhere came to mind.
 
My thought too, Obama likes people getting paid to build pipelines as long as they don't actually use 'em for that nasty oil.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 23, 2012 04:04 AM (VaU8E)

46 I'm terrified enough at the prospect of another 4 years of O that at this point in time I will pull the lever for whoever the republican nominee is

Posted by: kawfytawk at March 23, 2012 04:04 AM (VIm97)

47 #47  The Church accepts drug money from the cartels,  who cut off people's heads.  Their big example was a chapel built in some state.  And this is what the announcer said:  "You can go in and do your Catholic-style worship,  and then go out the back door and see the brass plaque with the cartel leader's name on it."

Voice was done very mocking,  and no explanation for the chapel or who put up the plaque or even if it is a private chapel or one owned by the diocese.

The inference was that the Vatican is kept going with drug money.  It was awful.  I felt like I was listening to something from pre-WWII or something.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 04:04 AM (GoIUi)

48 @46 The nightmare scenario of Obama getting to pick a justice to replace a Scalia or a THomas if in the event they have to step down due to health reasons is why I will vote for ABO this election. Just consider the two picks he has made thus far, Kagen and Santamayor! They are probably two of the least qualified and undeserving lawyers to ever sit on the court.

Posted by: McLovin at March 23, 2012 04:05 AM (j0IcY)

49 Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 07:42 AM (GoIUi)


Damn Brits, still blowing Henry the 8th. Oh well, they've been lost since WW2.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:06 AM (5KvzL)

50 Obamacare turned two this week.

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 04:08 AM (I2LwF)

51 Rick Santorum..something about glass houses...what's that thing about glass houses...nevermind, look, you are big government busy body. Taking away my porn (I have a doctors note for it anyway) --- that ain't going to change the facts about your big spending past. You have soiled yourself. You make Mittens look better and better every day. Especially when you open that doofus mouth of yours 

Posted by: lecture us, Mr. Dad at March 23, 2012 04:08 AM (Vg4Vv)

52 #58  My sister and I are going to England May 31.  This was so hurtful to hear that it has kind of put a damper on my anticipation this morning.

I am going to try to put it out of my mind but it sounded much worse than what I have written.  The reporter was just terrible.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 04:09 AM (GoIUi)

53 I know that I have been listening to Barky's idiotic comments since '07, but after his ultimate stupidity yesterday, I have decided that I would rather have Mugabe as President than that stupid fuck. ABO fuckers, ABO.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:10 AM (5KvzL)

54 The inference was that the Vatican is kept going with drug money. It was awful. I felt like I was listening to something from pre-WWII or something. Holy crap, I'd have turned that garbage off, too. Why the heck is the Catholic chuch the media's boogeyman all of a sudden?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at March 23, 2012 04:10 AM (fuw6p)

55 Last night, after the steam room episode, Rico said my foreskin looked like the face of a bulldog.  Everyone laughed and we had a great time!  Speak of Rico, he had his...oops, wrong forum.  Tootles.

Posted by: Barnacle Frank at March 23, 2012 04:11 AM (WUWb9)

56 Why the heck is the Catholic chuch the media's boogeyman all of a sudden?


All of a sudden???

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:13 AM (5KvzL)

57 48. Just at the point when DeMint et al. establishment told him to fade out stage right, we should count our lucky stars that Santorum exposed his complete inability to self restraint and inability to be consistent to his own pledges.

Until this tantrum, it wasn't obvious to everyone that despite his seeming virtues, Santorum is a complete buffoon. Those who ignore this are as belligerent as their man Santorum, clinging bitterly to the man who began his campaign in debate promising "I'll Attack China!"  Btw, whether accurate or not, this week Drudge linked to a US population statistic finding Asians becoming the most prolific segment of American society. Way to go, Rick. Antagonize everyone. Gee, by his own rationale, we may as well stick with Obama on that note, divide and conquer.

Before this year, I actually had a good impression of Rick Santorum. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 04:13 AM (lpWVn)

58 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:14 AM (8y9MW)

59 You watch the BBC? I mean more than Kitchen Nightmares?

Posted by: Red in Maine at March 23, 2012 04:14 AM (BdP+C)

60 #64

Why the heck is the Catholic chuch the media's boogeyman all of a sudden?

Because unlike certain other religions, the Catholics don't get pissy, and cut your head off when you insult them.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 23, 2012 04:14 AM (L7hol)

61 My thought too, Obama likes people getting paid to build pipelines as long as they don't actually use 'em for that nasty oil.

Posted by: waelse1 at March 23, 2012 08:04 AM (VaU8E)

BUT, the pipe line right of way is dual use because it can be converted to a high speed rail corridor--presto more green energy jobs.  And Warren Buffet's rail cars can bring the oil down faster with high speed rail, so it is a win-win for the US.  Also, we will fill the rail cars returning to Canada with illegal aliens and drop some of them off in each state the pipe line goes through so we will increase diversity as well.


Posted by: Barky O & Sharif Joe at March 23, 2012 04:15 AM (i3+c5)

62 Oh I get the Romneybots thought process. Its better to have a more liberal court if a Republican does it.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at March 23, 2012 04:16 AM (WU3T3)

63 Holy crap, I'd have turned that garbage off, too. Why the heck is the Catholic chuch the media's boogeyman all of a sudden?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at March 23, 2012 08:10 AM (fuw6p)

Because it is the worlds largest provider of services to the poor and if it can be brought down it will leave governments as the only source of relief for these people.
That is a fantastic amount of power over peoples lives which, if you have been paying attention, is what these politicians seem bent on.

Posted by: Panzer Trout at March 23, 2012 04:18 AM (j5CHE)

64 All of a sudden??? Ok, maybe it isn't, maybe I'm just seeing it more since Obama's attempt to delete the first amendment.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at March 23, 2012 04:18 AM (fuw6p)

65 Also, we will fill the rail cars returning to Canada with illegal aliens and drop some of them off in each state the pipe line goes through so we will increase diversity as well.


Not necessary, we're still here.

Posted by: Those guys hanging out at Home Depot at March 23, 2012 04:18 AM (5KvzL)

66

Holy crap, I'd have turned that garbage off, too. Why the heck is the Catholic chuch the media's boogeyman all of a sudden?

 

Obamacare.  Contraception.  Hmmmmm

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 04:18 AM (I2LwF)

67

Ok, maybe it isn't, maybe I'm just seeing it more since Obama's attempt to delete the first amendment.

 

 

Not coincidental.

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 04:19 AM (I2LwF)

68 Actually, here in my corner of MA, the Home Depots seem to have fewer crimmigrant loiterers these days.  I think it's the economy.

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 04:20 AM (I2LwF)

69 #69  I listen to BBC radio,  which is carried in the overnight hours on my local NPR station.  (I can't listen to Coast to Coast because I don't like knowing there are that many crazies in the country.)   This was on the radio broadcast,  which actually goes all over the world,  including Asia and Africa.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 04:20 AM (GoIUi)

70 This week we found out the cost of Obamacare doubled, and Obama has increased the national debt more in three years than Bush did in 8. And our press talks about a fucking etch a sketch and Rick Santorum says Obama is better than Romney. Fuck this shit.

Posted by: Mr Pink at March 23, 2012 04:20 AM (ZvMnN)

71 Communism does not like organized religion. Look at how much Lech Walesa and John Paul was a pain in the ass to the Soviets.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:21 AM (5KvzL)

72 Because unlike certain other religions, the Catholics don't get pissy, and cut your head off when you insult them.

Or, to misquote a classic exchange:

"That's because Catholics don't cut people's heads off when they lose."
"New strategy, Chris, let the Muslims win."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:21 AM (8y9MW)

73 @77
Like the new "rule" that you can't protest government officials at any location where they are present?

Posted by: Panzer Trout at March 23, 2012 04:21 AM (j5CHE)

74

This is an interesting date in history:

 

In 1775 Patrick Henry made his famous call for American independence from Britain, telling the Virginia Provincial Convention, "Give me liberty, or give me death!"

 

In 1933 the German Reichstag adopted the Enabling Act, which effectively granted Adolf Hitler dictatorial legislative powers.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at March 23, 2012 04:22 AM (b6FgX)

75 Like the new "rule" that you can't protest government officials at any location where they are present?

What?  I missed that one.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:22 AM (8y9MW)

76
Oh I get the Romneybots thought process. Its better to have a more liberal court if a Republican does it.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at March 23, 2012 08:16 AM (WU3T3)


Or better yet, government run health care is better if it's called Romneycare instead of Obamacare.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 23, 2012 04:23 AM (7+pP9)

77 We would never trample on your First Amendment Rights...


unless they got in the way of an emanation of a penumbra of a socialist goal!

Posted by: Barky O & Sharif Joe at March 23, 2012 04:23 AM (i3+c5)

78 Santorum has got to go, he has beclowned himself to the point that he is now reeking of it.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:24 AM (5KvzL)

79 79 #69 I listen to BBC radio, which is carried in the overnight hours on my local NPR station. (I can't listen to Coast to Coast because I don't like knowing there are that many crazies in the country.) This was on the radio broadcast, which actually goes all over the world, including Asia and Africa.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 08:20 AM (GoIUi)

 

 

You should try to find Red Eye Radio.  It's an overnight conservative talker with a slant toward the interests and needs of over-the-road truckers.  Quite refreshing, and they don't mince words when it comes to politics.

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 04:25 AM (I2LwF)

80 @85
H.R. 347 Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Ac
http://tinyurl.com/7f4e7gj

Posted by: Panzer Trout at March 23, 2012 04:26 AM (j5CHE)

81 Actually, conservatives nationwide outnumber liberals by far more than a 2-1 margin. It's probably at least 3-1 and more likely 4-1. A large segment of the body politic is conservative but either doesn't realize it or are not inclined to say so, given that conservatism has been so stigmatized by the liberal mass media. The black demographic, for example, is quite conservative on a multitude of issues, especially Southern blacks, but if you polled that demographic very few would say they're conservative. Go through issue-by-issue, however, from school vouchers, to abortion, to gay marriage, to welfare reform, to assisted suicide, to the death penalty, and it becomes clear that that demographic to a large extent is right of center too. The conservative-liberal dichotomy doesn't fully translate into Republican-Democrat electoral results because a large number of issue-based conservatives automatically and in many cases mindlessly vote for the Democrat Party label and a significant number of erstwhile conservative Republicans stay home and don't vote in partisan general elections, based upon the results of primaries, often purely out of spite.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 23, 2012 04:26 AM (r2PLg)

82 We told you all along that he was inevitable.  You will soon come to admire the ways in which he grows in office and is able to reach across the aisle to work with his socialist democrat friends.

Posted by: Hrothgar Mittens Staffer at March 23, 2012 04:27 AM (i3+c5)

83 By the way. H.R. 347 was passed by the republican house. Most of these bastards are not actually "on our side"

Posted by: Panzer Trout at March 23, 2012 04:28 AM (j5CHE)

84 You should try to find Red Eye Radio.

I heartily recommend Red Eye Radio.  I don't know one of the guys, but Gary McNamara got his start in the afternoons on WBAP here in DFW.  I really miss his show- it was far better than Mark Davis is.  I even prefer him to Mark Levin (it was to make room for Levin's show that he was moved to the overnight show).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:28 AM (8y9MW)

85 I see that the good "Reverends", race-mongers, leftists, gun-grabbers, and protected class of the perpetually aggrieved have gathered in Sanford, FL  to protest the shooting of the young black boy.  First, let me say that this may have been a flat out murder by an overzealous neighborhood watch person, but  we really don't know all the facts yet.  What ticks me off about this is, where's the national outrage when a group of blacks set a white kid on fire while saying, "that's what you get, whitey".   There's hardly a mention of something like that on the news, and there's certainly no national outcry for justice.

Posted by: Havedash at March 23, 2012 04:30 AM (JfvbF)

86 #86  I am tired of this accusation about Romney.  Either you aren't paying attention to what he said,  or you are being deliberately obtuse.

Here is an article in USA Today this morning:

http://tinyurl.com/6t3ta5o

The title is "Why I'd Repeal Obamacare" and it is written by Governor Romney.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 04:31 AM (GoIUi)

87 Posted by: Panzer Trout at March 23, 2012 08:28 AM (j5CHE)


Unfortunately, if you work in the belly of the beast (DC and/or Congress) for more than two years, the mantle of superiority wears lightly on your shoulders and you just know than you really are better than the peasants and deserve every perk you and your buddies can dream up.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2012 04:32 AM (i3+c5)

88 #89  Thanks!  I will look and see if someone locally carries it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 04:32 AM (GoIUi)

89

"The founder of the environmental group 350.org, Bill McKibben, says Obama is far too much in the political center for many environmentalists."

They really do want full-blown communism, don't they?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at March 23, 2012 04:32 AM (3bWHe)

90

Hi, I'm Rick Santorum. I'm a sore loser and I choke my chicken.

 

Posted by: Rick Santorum at March 23, 2012 04:33 AM (8ieXv)

91 H.R. 347 Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Ac

Skimming that article (and reading the first several paragraphs pretty thoroughly) I'd want someone to dissect the entire law for me.  Changing "willfully and knowingly" to just "knowingly" isn't something I'd get upset over.

Basically it says- if you knew it was restricted, you should have known not to go there.  So, given the original law, I'm not terribly upset by that change.

My problem, though, is with the original law.  Congress should not get to limit my ability to protest "for redress of grievances" no matter how inconvenient they find it.  The original 1971 Statute (it seems to me) is completely unconstitutional.  Especially considering how broadly it was written.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:34 AM (8y9MW)

92 Posted by: Havedash at March 23, 2012 08:30 AM (JfvbF)


This has gotten to the point that I just don't give a shit. The perpetually grievanced are making more out of this than it is.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:34 AM (5KvzL)

93 Either you aren't paying attention to what he said, or you are being deliberately obtuse.

We know what he says.  We just don't believe him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:35 AM (8y9MW)

94

Wisconsin booms:

 

Phantom Russian submarine?

 

Can you imagine if the libs nominally outnumbered conservatives two to one?  We'd all be lampshades. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 23, 2012 04:36 AM (Ec6wH)

95 Even Noot wouldn't say what Santorum said about Romney vs Obama. Said it from the beginning: Santorum is going to win every single argument he gets into, all the way to the losers' bracket.

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 23, 2012 04:36 AM (dptRY)

96 http://tinyurl.com/6t3ta5o

The title is "Why I'd Repeal Obamacare" and it is written by Governor Romney.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 08:31 AM (GoIUi)




From that article:

But abolishing ObamaCare will only be half the battle. Just as important is the question of what to put in its place.

Sorry, but Mittens is asshole Number One.  He's an idiot who can't stop himself.  He's going to spend the first two years of his term looking for the perfect "replacement" for an un-Constitutional power grab by the feral government.  Great.

I'm not worried about Mittens, though.  I'm happy to vote him in and then rally for his impeachment once the Barky threat is actually history.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 23, 2012 04:36 AM (X3lox)

97   46, 57. Just consider the two picks he has made thus far, Kagen and Santamayor! They are probably two of the least qualified and undeserving lawyers to ever sit on the court.
--
Those two certainly are poor representatives of Americans at large, and professional women in general.

Regarding who will select constructionist constitutional judges who will not legislate from the bench and SCOTUS Justices? Obviously, Republican Ron Paul is the only reliable candidate to do that, not simply to promise or hint to be a "real" conservative when appointing an Attorney General to lead the Justice Dept. Romney admitted he'll defer to his lawyers, the elitists' status quo breed, to determine what is constitutional. Romney's nominations will be as "moderate" as Reagan's (nominating Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, and tanking Bork).  One out of three constitutionally conservative decisions, not the odds I'd vote to bet on.

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 04:38 AM (lpWVn)

98

 Congress should not get to limit my ability to protest "for redress of grievances" no matter how inconvenient they find it.

 

Did  Harry Reid's stipulation that smelly  summer tourists to the Capitol must bathe before entering make it into the final bill?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 23, 2012 04:38 AM (4q5tP)

99 I'z in ur election Ready to take ur pron

Posted by: Little Ricky S at March 23, 2012 04:38 AM (dAUOX)

100 57% of Americans say the government should approve Keystone XL, all of it and not just the bottom half.




What's stunning is that 43% don't approve of it. But don't people know that Oil Man Obama has approved enough pipeline to wrap around the entire earth and then some?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 04:40 AM (1Jaio)

101 Jews.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 23, 2012 07:30 AM (DiqH3


Tell us something we don't know!

Posted by: Protocols of The Elders of Zion at March 23, 2012 04:40 AM (nEUpB)

102 The War on Women goes well.

Posted by: General Misogyny at March 23, 2012 04:40 AM (MMC8r)

103 Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 08:40 AM (1Jaio)

So the profoundly stupid % has decreased somewhat from 52%.

Posted by: Protocols of The Elders of Zion at March 23, 2012 04:41 AM (nEUpB)

104 Out, damned sock

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 04:42 AM (nEUpB)

105 Can you imagine if the libs nominally outnumbered conservatives two to one? We'd all be lampshades.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 23, 2012 08:36 AM (Ec6wH)

But you would make such pretty lampshades!...why, I'd have you trimmed with beautiful lace and Austrian crystal, too!

Posted by: G Soros at March 23, 2012 04:42 AM (GsBJY)

106 @96  Okay, having read the article.
1) I still don't believe him.  He's not going to change that, so it's not worth arguing over.

2) He says most of the right things but (see 1, above) he's had plenty of time to craft this message.  If he really believed it, he would have been saying something like it long before he started.  He would not have started with "I want to repeal the bad parts and keep the good parts," or "I'll issue waivers to all 50 States."

3) I do take exception to this excerpt (actually the whole piece because this excerpt highlights my main problem with Romney's ideas on health care):
Thus, to take one much discussed problem, individuals with pre-existing conditions who have maintained continuous health insurance coverage should be guaranteed the ability to retain coverage.

It still assumes that health care- even health insurance- is somehow "a right."  It proposes to tell insurance companies whether or not they can dissolve a voluntary contract.

Imagine going into business with someone, and finding out they were terrible at business.  Through no fault of their own, they have no business acumen, and they're dragging your business venture down.  Now imagine the government telling you that you cannot legally disassociate yourself with that partner- you're stuck in that failing business arrangement forever.

That's what Romney is saying there, best case.  Worst case, he's talking about Guaranteed issue, which is at least as bad, and potentially far worse.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:42 AM (8y9MW)

107 BBC is full of anti-Catholicism since Henry VIII. The Pope is visiting Mexico and Cuba. I heard stuff early this morning that made me get up and turn off the radio. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 07:42 AM (GoIUi)



I am I am'd it for you

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 04:42 AM (1Jaio)

108 Morning guys. Talentless hack Lyle Lovett on MSNBC with another one of his totally boring drones songs, and Joe Scarborough pretending he can play guitar...

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 04:43 AM (niZvt)

109 Posted by: G Soros at March 23, 2012 08:42 AM (GsBJY)


Tell us George, did you treat the queers and the gypsies the same way you treated your own kind?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:44 AM (5KvzL)

110 We have met the enemy, and they are Women!

Posted by: Gen. Limbaugh at March 23, 2012 04:45 AM (j5CHE)

111 McKibben, LoL. WTF is so special about 350?

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2012 04:45 AM (5HAgy)

112 We know what he says. We just don't believe him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 08:35 AM (8y9MW)


^^^^^^

This!!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 23, 2012 04:46 AM (i3+c5)

113 We shall attack them in the shoe stores, the latte bars, we shall meet them in their book clubs, their yoga classes. We shall fight them twenty-eight days of every month and never give up, never surrender, until we get our TVs back and stop being asked to hold their purse while they tinkle.

Posted by: General Misogyny at March 23, 2012 04:46 AM (MMC8r)

114
#86 I am tired of this accusation about Romney. Either you aren't paying attention to what he said, or you are being deliberately obtuse.

Here is an article in USA Today this morning:

http://tinyurl.com/6t3ta5o

The title is "Why I'd Repeal Obamacare" and it is written by Governor Romney.


And on January 22nd, 2013 Romney will simply shake his etch-a-sketch.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 23, 2012 04:46 AM (7+pP9)

115 The only reason I have ever heard of Lyle Lovett in my entire 48 year existence on this mortal plane is that he fucked Julia Roberts. Granted, I am not a country fan. But damn, I have heard of Toby Keith, Garth Brooks, Hank Williams etc...

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 04:47 AM (5KvzL)

116

Czar Nicholas II @91-

If blacks are so conservative, why did 99% vote for Ubama? And AllenG, the AM station in ETEX took Rusty Humphreys off and put on Wall Street Review or such like. Gary McNamara would have been way better than Wall Street lackeys kissing Ubama's butt. But what really gets me, is when the newsbreak comes up, and they switch to ABC news, it's like being switched to Pravda or Isveztia. I suppose the AM stations who subscribe to ABC radio are obliged to broadcast their propaganda.

Posted by: EROWMER at March 23, 2012 04:48 AM (sIm3i)

117

I like Red-eye radio ...  the hosts are mostly libetarian to conservative; Not GOP fanboys, but clearly right of center.  And they're not wackos.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at March 23, 2012 04:48 AM (FLFli)

118

I have laid enough pipe to go around the planet Arrakis...twice.

**

Oh, I got your spices baby.

 

Posted by: S. Flook at March 23, 2012 04:49 AM (8ieXv)

119 119, I'm sure George was easy on the gypsies, fewer gold teeth.

Posted by: Jean at March 23, 2012 04:50 AM (5HAgy)

120 If blacks are so conservative, why did 99% vote for Ubama?


Damn! Because he's black cuz.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 23, 2012 04:50 AM (5KvzL)

121 Regarding the Keystone Pipeline, the GOP leadership is making a mistake by trying to convince the general public of all of the reasons why it's a good thing and all of the reasons why the walls put up by Obama are bad things. That's not going to work. To get through the mass media's filters and spin machines you have to have laser-like focus. To clue in Democrat puppet masters you need to have polling data so overwhelmingly in your favor that those up for reelection get nervous enough about it to cross over from the dark side. A 57% approval rate won't cut it. You need to beat over the head folks like Casey, Jr., Sherrod Brown, McCaskill, Bill Nelson, et al.,. with 75-80% approval ratings. To get the general public sufficiently on board you have to focus on the one issue that really hits home: jobs. Forget about the bureaucracy angle. That falls flat. Forget about the gas price connection. Too many moving parts. Forget about the Democrat obstructionism angle. Too many out there in Zombieland identify with that party label. Jobs and jobs only. You tell Zombieland the following and you repeat it so often, so loudly, that it finally sinks in: Obama is blocking the Keystone Pipeline. If we build that pipeline it'll put a lot of Americans to work in high-paying jobs. If Obama gets his way and is allowed to keep blocking the pipeline, however, a lot of Canadians will have high-paying jobs and more Americans will suffer needlessly. You can't defeat the media/Democrat complex by trying to prove too much. That only gives them more ways to obfuscate and more targets at which to throw their darts. It's like trying to slay a hydra. You need to use overwhelming force against the single most vulnerable point.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 23, 2012 04:50 AM (r2PLg)

122 Tell us George, did you treat the queers and the gypsies the same way you treated your own kind?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 08:44 AM (5KvzL)

I gave the queers pretty things -- they were so pleased!  As for the gypsies, I allowed them to serenade me with their charming string quartets -- often they played folk music from their past.  It was all really quite lovely!

Posted by: G Soros at March 23, 2012 04:51 AM (GsBJY)

123 I suppose the AM stations who subscribe to ABC radio are obliged to broadcast their propaganda.

Yeah, I can't remember if WBAP (now, unfortunately, owned by Cumulus) subscribes to ABC or CBS.  I don't pay that much attention, because I know that any of the national news is going to be lies.  I just listen for the local stuff.

Gary was awesome in the afternoons.  I almost wish I could stay up and listen to RER- but I get up at 4 AM, most days, to head to the gym.  By the time I'm done there, the normal morning show is on.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 04:51 AM (8y9MW)

124 Communism does not like organized religion. Look at how much Lech Walesa and John Paul was a pain in the ass to the Soviets.
--
Speaking of which, Walesa's Union amalgam of man power provided Poland the means to break with the Soviets, blessed by John Paul for Poland's massive "moral majority" to break from tyranny.

Though corrupt in America and Western/Central Europe, unions yet provide organization that when led by leaders for Liberty accomplish miracles. Ironic, unions being communist (international), that the union would provide the means for national sovereignty in Poland.

Leadership -- all the difference. US Unions need to purge their leadership, a task as difficult politically as Poland breaking from the USSR. I'm not holding my breath. The Republican Party can't permit its ballots to be accurately counted; why would either the Democrats or Union Bosses?

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 04:52 AM (lpWVn)

125 Those underground booms?  Totally Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Cooling Warming Climate Change Climate Disruption.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 23, 2012 04:52 AM (4q5tP)

126 From part of an email I got this morning from Thomas Purcell:



Fluke is not your normal young college student. For one, she is a 30
year old experienced community activist, older and wiser than your
typical college student. Experienced in spades-she sits or has been a
part of no less than 6 different advisory boards to women's rights
groups, including the Manhattan Borough President's Taskforce on
Domestic Violence and numerous other New York City and New York State
coalitions. She is also a recipient of the 2010 Women Lawyers
Association of Los Angeles Fran Kandel Public Interest Grant. The
foundation is a non-profit charitable corporation established by the
Women Lawyers Association of Los Angeles ("WLALA") to increase the
utility of the law as an instrument of social justice. The Grant is
given to law students for projects that make governmental and social
institutions and agencies more accessible and responsive to members of
society whose interests are not otherwise adequately recognized or
asserted. In short, this is a woman who knows all the ins and out of the
government and government aid systems, and a strong proponent of the
concept of 'social justice'.

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 04:53 AM (u50z0)

127 Y'know, just because we have to resign ourselves to the sh-t sandwich of a Romney candidacy and the possible, though unlikely, consequence of a Romney presidency doesn't mean we can't criticize the obvious shortcomings of the nominee. Nor does it mean we can't point and laugh at you suckers when he 'shakes the Etch-A-Sketch' and changes all of his positions for the Fall campaign.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 23, 2012 04:53 AM (gPDxp)

128 @117: Well, it IS the land of Anglicanism, after all. To be fair, the RC church has been saying unfair things about Henry VIII, Defender of the Faith, for centuries now, too. The sad thing is, the Brits lost their Christian faith over the last 50 years, but retained their anti-Catholicism and Anti-Semitism, much like the rest of Europe. Maintaining Hate is easier than Love. If Charles becomes King, he'll inherit Henry's (Pope-given) title of "Defender of the Faith." Given Charles's fixation with Mother Gaia and Islam - each motivated, I am sure, by how terribly politically correct it makes him - the jibe is, exactly which Faith would he be defending?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 04:53 AM (niZvt)

129 Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 08:47 AM (5KvzL)

I have a couple of his early albums...he's pretty good in small doses.

But my nephew (when he was four) liked him and used to pronounce his name Wyle Wovett, so that's how I hear his name in my head whenever I see it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 04:54 AM (nEUpB)

130 Looks like all that etch-a-sketch mumbo jumbo has done wonder's for the people who make it:

http://tinyurl.com/8xufnm8

Republicans: Even their gaffes and silly arguments are good for the economy.

Posted by: a_feral_duck at March 23, 2012 04:55 AM (P7xkj)

131 This whole price of oil shit has my blood boiling. 

Oil prices were in the upper $50 to low $70 through most of 2006. 

Pislosi gets installed as speaker and they begin to creep up getting into the upper $70 up to $90's by the end of 2007.

They peak on July 4, 2008 just over $145.

Bush signs an executive order on July 14 that lifts the ban on offshore drilling on the outer continental shelf.  In 11 days the price falls by $22.  It still stays above $100 because Congress hasn't acted to remove the ban.  Then in September the worthless democrat congresscocksuckers don't want this to become an election issue with gas around $4 so they let the ban expire. On September 26 oil is around $107.  By Christmas it is about $38.

February 11th O'Fuckstick reinstates the ban on drilling on the outer continental shelf.  Oil prices start to climb again.  February 13th oil is around $38.  By the end of 2009 it's back to $80. Then the BP oil spill, the ban on drilling in the gulf and voila, back to over $100.  Do these stupid fuckers not understand the cause and effect of their actions?

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 23, 2012 04:56 AM (3jGS1)

132 Who would've predicted that Gingrich would fade away quietly and Santorum would be the one to go out in a ball of flames? Not over yet, but we're getting very close to the tipping point.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2012 04:57 AM (hiMsy)

133 Am I the only one that would dearly love to beat the Rev. Santorum to death with an Etach-a-Sketch after his endorsement of Barak Obama for the general election? What a doucheboy.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 04:58 AM (niZvt)

134 Oh, and Fluke has a "public policy" scholarship which is given out for political reasons. Here are the people who are on the board that awards the scholarship. Georgetown picked them, I guess:

Georgetown is not innocent either, and ironically are creators of the
 The mentors of the program include but are not
limited to:
Katherine Barton, Attorney, Appellate Section, Environment
and Natural Resources Division, U.S. Department of Justice

Bridgette Kaiser, Staff Attorney, Office of General
Counsel, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services

Sarah Lichtman Spector, Staff Attorney, Family and
Children's Health Programs at U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services


Lynn Overmann, Senior Advisor, Office of the Assistant
Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice

And of course,

Judith Scott, General Counsel, Service Employees
International Union, James and Hoffman.
.


These are the people that picked Sandra Fluke to get a scholarship to GTown.


Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 04:58 AM (u50z0)

135 This whole price of oil shit has my blood boiling.

Oil prices were in the upper $50 to low $70 through most of 2006.


Posted by: Hedgehog at March 23, 2012 08:56 AM (3jGS1)



What are you complaining about? Oil is only $1.20-$1.25 a barrel now. Just ask Standard Oil Obama

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 04:58 AM (1Jaio)

136 Posted by: Planck Constant at March 23, 2012 08:55 AM (phlKA)

On quite a spread too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 04:59 AM (nEUpB)

137 Y'know, just because we have to resign ourselves to the sh-t sandwich of a Romney candidacy and the possible, though unlikely, consequence of a Romney presidency doesn't mean we can't criticize the obvious shortcomings of the nominee.


Although I wouldn't wager my children on it, I'm pretty convinced he is the next president. I kinda agree with DeMint, we're stuck with him so now I've got his back. Although I will say this, I will hold my head up high voting for him without holding my nose like I did with McCain.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 23, 2012 05:00 AM (5KvzL)

138 I don't know why people keep bringing up Supreme Court picks. At best Romney will seek to keep the status quo. Most likely he will try to make it more "moderate" which in real terms will be more liberal.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at March 23, 2012 07:59 AM (WU3T3)


Huh?  wtf?  Are you a troll?  I mean a real one living under a bridge?


Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 05:00 AM (O3R/2)

139 In short, this is a woman who knows all the ins and out of the
government and government aid systems, and a strong proponent of the
concept of 'social justice'.

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 08:53 AM (u50z0)



Don't forget that Fluke's alleged boyfriend's family are very big Dem donors and support all sorts of ultra left causes. All this about her being a poor innocent student is horseshit. She's a radical left wing activist. She is a female Obama.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 05:01 AM (1Jaio)

140 Although I will say this, I will hold my head up high voting for him without holding my nose like I did with McCain.

So he only stinks bad enough that you want to get a little further away from the smell, not so bad you want to block it out entirely?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:02 AM (8y9MW)

141 If Charles becomes King, he'll inherit Henry's (Pope-given) title of "Defender of the Faith."


But revoked by Pope Paul III

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 05:02 AM (u50z0)

142 Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)

+1

His statement proves that his motivations are venal.

Maybe an intrepid reporter will rephrase his comment and ask him point-blank. That would be a pleasure to hear.

I liked some of what he has said, though mightily put off by his big-government solutions to his private beliefs. But this latest buffoonery has pushed him firmly into the clown camp, along with RON PAUL!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:03 AM (nEUpB)

143 152 If Charles becomes King, he'll inherit Henry's (Pope-given) title of "Defender of the Faith." But revoked by Pope Paul III Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 09:02 AM (u50z0) AFTER he no longer had the authority over the Church of England to do so

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 05:04 AM (niZvt)

144 #103  OK,  let's look at this logically.  You think he is lying to get elected,  right?

So he gets elected and does what?  KEEPS Obamacare,  killing any chance of re-election?  VETOES a repeal?  Destroys the GOP on purpose?  This is just incomprehensible thinking to me.

His position when he passed Romneycare was the exact same one as the Heritage Foundation,  which supported his plan.  The country,  having seen what federal mandates, edicts, and one-size-fits-all Obamacare does wants no part of any of it.  Romney AGREES with this position and PUTS IT IN WRITING,  and you still don't believe him.  Jim Demint is impressed with him and almost endorsed,  and John Bolton DID endorse him,  and yet you think he is lying to THEM?

I give up.  The guy could do every single thing you want and you would still say" he didn't really mean it."

Pffft.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 05:04 AM (GoIUi)

145 So he only stinks bad enough that you want to get a little further away from the smell, not so bad you want to block it out entirely?


Yeah, kind of like a dusty fart. Doesn't have that nasty methane smell, but is still unpleasant. Again, I did say that I have his back. ABO.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 23, 2012 05:04 AM (5KvzL)

146 Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 09:02 AM (u50z0)

Who let the Papist in?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:04 AM (nEUpB)

147 As for the gypsies, I allowed them to serenade me with their charming string quartets -- often they played folk music from their past. It was all really quite lovely!
--
According to the scientific research of Folk Music by Bela Bartok, original ethnomusicologist, the gypsies stole everything from the regions traversed as nomads.


Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 05:05 AM (lpWVn)

148 Although I will say this, I will hold my head up high voting for him without holding my nose like I did with McCain.

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at March 23, 2012 09:00 AM (5KvzL)

 

----------------

 

I agree with you here.  McCain was a detestable candidate.  Better than obastard, of course, in that McCain is not a traitor (at least not knowingly/willingly).  I pulled the lever hoping that McCain would be elected, and that the good Lord would provide us with some circumstance that would make Palin president.  And since I'm usually not a fan of women holding executive positions, that's saying something.

Romney, though far from optimal, is not so bad as McCain.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 05:06 AM (xUM1Q)

149 Off you snake airplane riding sock!

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 05:06 AM (5KvzL)

150 Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 09:04 AM (GoIUi)

Words....just words!*

I don't think that Romney is a bad as some around here suggest, but he does have a reputation for keeping an eye on the windsock.

*extra credit for anyone who knows that movie line.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:07 AM (nEUpB)

151 Wait, the GOP put out something that slams Obama and makes sense?  That explains why I woke up with a goatee and a soul this morning.  I wondered what had happened.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:07 AM (VtjlW)

152 And since I'm usually not a fan of womenholding executive positions, that's saying something. you have no idea how much that is saying.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 05:08 AM (Ho2rs)

153 I voted for Palin and the old guy who looks like Emperor Palpatine.

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 05:08 AM (I2LwF)

154 #106  You conveniently left out the second sentence in that paragraph:

Instead of the massive new taxes, trillions of dollars in new spending, and top-down bureaucratic decrees of ObamaCare, we need to limit Washington's control by spurring competition, creating maximum flexibility and enhancing consumer choice.

He goes on to detail suggestions like letting states decide,  making insurance cross state lines to spur competition, giving tax credits to self-employed like businesses get,  etc.

I suggest people take the time to go read the entire article and not depend on Romney opponent supporters to "interpret" what he wrote.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 05:09 AM (GoIUi)

155 @106 You could like, you know, actually quote the following sentence after that out of context one: "But abolishing ObamaCare will only be half the battle. Just as important is the question of what to put in its place. Instead of the massive new taxes, trillions of dollars in new spending, and top-down bureaucratic decrees of ObamaCare, we need to limit Washington's control by spurring competition, creating maximum flexibility and enhancing consumer choice."

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 23, 2012 05:09 AM (dptRY)

156

And since I'm usually not a fan of womenholding executive positions, that's saying something.

 

Why?  Legitimate question, I'm interested in your reasons and not so I can shriek womanhater! patriarch!  help help I'm being oppressed! at you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:10 AM (VtjlW)

157 Oh, hey, I made up a meme picture and posted it to Cheezburger.  Click the link my sig to see it.  SFW.

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 05:10 AM (I2LwF)

158 The Fluke "hearing" was pure theater not to be taken seriously.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 05:10 AM (O3R/2)

159 Krauthammer has another great column today.  Very focused.


Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 05:11 AM (O3R/2)

160 <<According to the scientific research of Folk Music by Bela Bartok, original ethnomusicologist, the gypsies stole everything from the regions traversed as nomads.>>

So gypsies are the original mix tape?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 23, 2012 05:11 AM (tf9Ne)

161 AFTER he no longer had the authority over the Church of England to do so

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 09:04 AM (niZvt)

----------------------

 

Exactly. 

Actually this is another way in which the current queen has done her duty to the limited extent her position allows.  As I understand it, she takes it more seriously than the goof balls serving as bishops these days.  It's a shame that Charles probably will not regard it as anything other than an anachronism.

The decline of Christianity in Europe is, to me, proof enough that a State religion is a bad idea.  It did more harm than good.  Now - that doesn't mean I don't think some religions should be banned - I do think that.  Islam, Kali-worship, etc., should be illegal and punished by deportation or death.  But none should become mandatory or overly priveleged.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 05:12 AM (xUM1Q)

162 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 09:07 AM (VtjlW)

Probably just the last face-lift (at least the goatee)!

[just kidding!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:13 AM (nEUpB)

163 So gypsies are the original mix tape?


Where I'm from, they're thieves. And they really like Suburbans.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 05:13 AM (5KvzL)

164 Posted by: Planck Constant at March 23, 2012 09:12 AM (phlKA)

A sexual Titan!

Posted by: Typical 30 second moron at March 23, 2012 05:13 AM (nEUpB)

165 I'm strictly in favor of women holding any position, at least for the necessary minute and a half of coitus. Posted by: Planck Constant at March 23, 2012 09:12 AM (phlKA) What are you some kind of Olympic athlete?

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 23, 2012 05:13 AM (dptRY)

166 "Defender of the faith" was a title give to Henry VIII because of the book he wrote defending the seven sacraments against Protestantism. When he decided to take Anne Bolyn as his "wife" they revoked the title. Later Parliament granted it to Henry (I guess to pretend that they were as valid a church) but it was one of those silly little pretender things. If the last congress gave the same title to Obama, it would have as much meaning.

Starting with Henry, the English Anglicans (not the worldwide Anglicans) and the American Episcopalians have watered down what was left of their Christianity until it was easily subsumed by the 'tards and the muslims. It's disgusting.

I was a proud Episcopalian until I realized that they had no intention of being guided by the Holy Spirit and were far more interested in being guided by the most prurient among them. You can't water down the faith and expect it to survive. That's why GTown (sorta catholic if you can still call Jesuits that) is authoring this embarrassment by scholarshipping a political marxist.

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 05:13 AM (u50z0)

167 Do these stupid fuckers not understand the cause and effect of their actions? The fact is that we don't actually have to produce our own oil to affect the price, we just have to stop making impossible for us to produce if we want to. Right now we're barred by laws and regulation from being able to produce. Lift those restrictions, yet change nothing, and the only thing that oil producers can do to keep us from competing with them is keep the price low enough that we don't have incentive to replace their oil with our own. They will make sure they produce enough to keep us out of the market.

Posted by: nickless at March 23, 2012 05:14 AM (MMC8r)

168 The best thing about Masscare is that it makes Romney a federalism warrior.

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 23, 2012 05:15 AM (dptRY)

169 #137  Charles has said he wants to be known as the "Defender of Faiths.  His position is that since there are so many Muslims, Hindus,  and Buddhists in the country now this is more appropriate.

This is qhy I hope the Queen lives to be 100 and then bypasses Charles and goes straight to William on the throne.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 05:15 AM (GoIUi)

170 >>The strange underground booms in Clintonville, Wisconsin

Koch Brothers.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2012 05:15 AM (ZKzrr)

171 Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 09:10 AM (O3R/2)

But it served its purpose admirably. A portion of the ignorant and detached voting public thinks that the Republicans want to ban contraception.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:15 AM (nEUpB)

172 The Wisconsin boom thingy -- sharks with lasers
 
I have some very very good news, fellow citizens:
 
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. intelligence community will now be able to store information about Americans with no ties to terrorism for up to five years under new Obama administration guidelines.
 
http://tinyurl.com/7jspaop
 
It's for our own good, dontcha know.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 23, 2012 05:15 AM (ccXZP)

173 reactionary do you care to explain why you don't want women in executive positions?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 05:15 AM (Ho2rs)

174 Hey Miss Marple, at this point Romney is not "doing" anything, he is "saying". I agree we should judge him by what he does. Unfortunately I can't look into some possible future and see what he will do, I can only look into the past and look at what he did.

Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at March 23, 2012 05:16 AM (WU3T3)

175 Wasn't me.

Posted by: Bob (Night Shift Supervisor - Halliburton Earthquake Division) at March 23, 2012 05:16 AM (TcY34)

176

Probably just the last face-lift (at least the goatee)!

[just kidding!]

 

Heh.  I realized after I posted that I teed that one up quite nicely.


 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:17 AM (VtjlW)

177 Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2012 09:13 AM (u50z0)

Do you have an e-mail address I can send you a joke about the Jesuits?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:17 AM (nEUpB)

178 Mumsie lived into her 90's. I'm sure Elizabeth doesn't want Charles to ascend. She likes his position as the satellite provider for the UK because of his big fucking ears.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 05:17 AM (5KvzL)

179 189 charlie do tell......please!!!! i despise the jesuits......they went full commie decades ago.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 05:18 AM (Ho2rs)

180 reactionary

do you care to explain why you don't want women in executive positions?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 09:15 AM (Ho2rs)




His wife made him get his ass off the computer and go dust.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2012 05:18 AM (X6akg)

181 >>This whole price of oil shit has my blood boiling.

When I went to get coffee, the breakroom hostile work environment TV informed me Obama was "answering charges he hasn't done enough about gas prices, in lol! of all places Oklahoma, lol!"

I said, "Oh, he's already done enough."

I got the stink-eye from a black woman who works for our client-landlord.

I don't care anymore.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2012 05:19 AM (ZKzrr)

182 Before he ever met Julia, Lyle Lovett's been in some movies. He isn't simply "country" since he croons jazz, big band so well.

http://tinyurl.com/dl468z

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 05:19 AM (lpWVn)

183 tami bwahhhhhhh!!!!!! paper towel please!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 05:19 AM (Ho2rs)

184 The guy could do every single thing you want and you would still say" he didn't really mean it."

No.  If he actually did the things he's claiming he'll do, I'll be quite happy (and more than a little surprised).  The problem is that his words have been all over the map- and the "reset" comment from one of his "top advisers" the other day doesn't help.

He has a liberal record.  He's on the record as saying (before he realized everyone hated it) that he hoped RomneyCare would be a pattern for the rest of the nation to follow.  Even once it became clear that everyone hated ObamaCare (and more than a few residents of Massachusetts hate RomneyCare), he still said he wanted to "keep the good parts" of ObamaCare.  Since the two primary things OCare and RCare have in common are an insurance mandate and guaranteed issue, I can only assume that those are "the good parts."

I tend to believe what people say first.  It's normally a better indication of their real beliefs than what they say later- after they've had time to "craft their message."  If what they say first lines up with what I know of their actions- even more so, then.

So, no, I don't believe this more recent Romney who is suddenly gung-ho to "abolish ObamaCare... root and branch."  I won't even vote for him (again: if he actually needs my vote to win TX, we're so screwed that winning TX won't help), though I'll vote down ticket to make sure as many Conservatives as possible get elected.  If I'm wrong and he really is fairly conservative, I'll be pleasantly surprised, and he will have my support in 2016.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:19 AM (8y9MW)

185 do you care to explain why you don't want women in executive positions?


Because they smell, nyahhh.

Posted by: Samuel Adams, President of the He-Man woman haters club at March 23, 2012 05:19 AM (5KvzL)

186

February 11th O'Fuckstick reinstates the ban on drilling on the outer continental shelf. Oil prices start to climb again. February 13th oil is around $38. By the end of 2009 it's back to $80. Then the BP oil spill, the ban on drilling in the gulf and voila, back to over $100. Do these stupid fuckers not understand the cause and effect of their actions?

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 23, 2012 08:56 AM (3jGS1)

------>

Yes, the Democracts, Progressives and Marxists (But, I repeat myself) understand precisely what they are doing.  Once you wrap your head around the fact that these sh!t-stains hate the United States are actively working to cripple the industrial and energy-producing capacity of the U.S., everything they do makes complete sense.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at March 23, 2012 05:19 AM (M0NzJ)

187 LOL Heather!  Breitbart was there.

Posted by: Truman North at March 23, 2012 05:20 AM (I2LwF)

188

Those booms?

 

Shale farts.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, feeling all extra curmudgeony today at March 23, 2012 05:21 AM (d0Tfm)

189 Why? Legitimate question, I'm interested in your reasons and not so I can shriek womanhater! patriarch! help help I'm being oppressed! at you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 09:10 AM (VtjlW)

 

------------

 

I have a couple main reasons. ------

First, while we are sometimes blessed with great female leaders (England has been especially lucky in this regard) those tend to be abberations.  Those women are usually more hardened than normal, or otherwise just well suited to the temper of their time.  The average woman makes moral and practical decisions primarily on emotion.  Males are, in their natural and un-indoctrinated state - more likely to rely on abstract principles when making those kinds of decisions.  A male is more likely to be impartially just, and also to be either merciful or brutal as is appropriate to the context.  ------ 

Second, I think males have a responsibility to take the lead to the extent that they are able.  It's our duty.  When the males are not in charge, and a matriarchal situation comes to be, the males start to become problems.  They run around acting more more savage as time passes.  There have been attempts at matriarchal societies in the past, and usually the men made them collapse by not going along.  You need men to rule other men, and to enforce order.-------

For what it's worth, this is not an endorsement of a harsh male tyranny, nor an assertion that male and female value, as human beings, is unequal.  But I think they have different roles for which they are, as a rule, best suited.  I often think of my uncle's description of the happy married couple.  He said "The husband is the head of the family, but the wife turns the head."  The man is "in charge" but the women shapes what he wants to lead them toward.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 05:22 AM (xUM1Q)

190 Romney is another Bush 41?

You mean a decent man, with a competent administration?

HORRORS!

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 23, 2012 05:23 AM (YqQbl)

191
Why are all Romneybots so shrill, screechy and preachy?

Their annoyance factor is right up there with the Paulbots and it's quite off-putting. It's time they start taking chill pills.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 23, 2012 05:24 AM (7+pP9)

192 Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 09:18 AM (Ho2rs)

Not that kind of joke, but....

So a Dominican, a Franciscan and a Carmelite go on a tour of Jerusalem with the chief Rabbi.

As they gaze up at the Western Wall, the Rabbi explains that it is a tradition among Jews to slip notes of prayer and questions into the gaps between the stones, so that G-d may answer those prayers and questions.

The Catholics are fascinated by this, and after a brief chat they decide to try it. They write: Dear G-d, who among your faithful do you love the most?

They continue on their visit, but return the next day, excited to see the result.

They remove the slip of paper, and find written upon it:

Of course  I love all the faithful equally and with all my heart.

Signed,
God, SJ

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:26 AM (nEUpB)

193 But I think they have different roles for which they are, as a rule, best suited. I often think of my uncle's description of the happy married couple. He said "The husband is the head of the family, but the wife turns the head." The man is "in charge" but the women shapes what he wants to lead them toward.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 09:22 AM (xUM1Q)




So, similar to the Medvedev/PUTIN dynamic then?

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2012 05:27 AM (X6akg)

194 charlie snort

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 05:27 AM (Ho2rs)

195

Romney admitted on tape that he was a "progressive Republican" before he started pretending to be a conservative. That in itself should end any doubt on what his presidency would look like.

Posted by: Chris at March 23, 2012 05:27 AM (XGZYX)

196 Seems like some people confuse legitimate criticism with juvenile name calling and unfounded accusations. Same ole same ole.

Posted by: polynikes at March 23, 2012 05:28 AM (A2cTV)

197 Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 23, 2012 09:24 AM (7+pP9)


I don't know, he's got it pretty much wrapped up. I have my issues with him, but like a good dutiful soldier, I am falling in line.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 23, 2012 05:29 AM (5KvzL)

198 Morning all. Short day at the Office and then off to get a haircut before I disappear into Navy Tooth Land for the weekend

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 23, 2012 05:29 AM (i6RpT)

199 "Why are all Romneybots so shrill, screechy and preachy?

Their annoyance factor is right up there with the Paulbots and it's quite off-putting. It's time they start taking chill pills.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 23, 2012 09:24 AM (7+pP9) "


That's pretty rich coming from you Ed. Good grief do you have any self awareness at all?

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2012 05:29 AM (GZitp)

200 Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 09:27 AM (Ho2rs)

You should hear a Jesuit tell it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:29 AM (nEUpB)

201 charlie i'm sure......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2012 05:29 AM (Ho2rs)

202

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 09:22 AM (xUM1Q)

 

Fair enough. I do think it's an excellent point that saying that men and women, in general, have different skill sets and different areas at which they excel and that pointing that out says nothing about the relative value, or lack thereof, of those sets.  That's the huge problem I have about modern "feminism".  It's not about equality.  It's about female supremacy.   

 

We've gone round and round here before about how making notations about the general (men are better at math, women are better at verbal) tells you nothing about the specific person standing in front of you. It may give you a starting point but it should not be the end point. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:30 AM (VtjlW)

203 Didn't Ed Anger flounce in a pissy huff not too lomg ago?

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2012 05:32 AM (hiMsy)

204 The strange underground booms in Clintonville, Wisconsin, made the NYTimes print version ------- Was seeing a bunch of these happening all over the place on youtube.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 23, 2012 05:32 AM (UpwlP)

205 @178: Well dagny, I didn't realize I was addressing a lapsed Anglican! I will pray for you It's unfair to blame Henry for all that happened in the centuries afterwards. Regarding his defense of the 7 sacraments, last time I checked Anglicans still believe in them. A lot more was at stake when Henry needed to find a wife capable of giving him a male heir: the RC church was actively pushing for the Spanish king to inherit the throne of England. The Pope was interjecting himself into questions of national sovereignty, and while there were very serious and IMO valid theological issues that justified the break with Rome, there is no denying that preserving the independence of the British people was always a major concern for him - as it was for the Protestant Czechs, for example. Much of European anti-Catholicism to this day harkens back to the Pope's political power, not merely theological disputes.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 05:32 AM (niZvt)

206 I've said before I will vote for a bucket of warm spit if that is what the Repubs nominate, but, geez, Santorum is really starting to sound like a whiny little bitch that isn't getting asked to the Prom.

Posted by: jjmurphy at March 23, 2012 05:33 AM (xjEAl)

207 Anyone ever read The Descent? (not the movie one, the creepy book about deep caves) that's what I'm thinking for WI

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 23, 2012 05:34 AM (SB0V2)

208 i despise the jesuits......they went full commie decades ago.....
--

there's always the bigger picture south of the border.

http://tinyurl.com/7745prv

One thing can not be denied the Jesuits, they are great scholars and know history.

Another thing can not be denied the Roman Catholic Church, it's corruption via the Sword of Constantine.

panzer trout nailed the motivation uniting the attack on the Catholic Church. And you've nailed the Catholic participation in that demise, the church endorsing "social justice" rather than protecting the natural rights of humanity. The Catholic Church is a house divided, having undermined its entire purpose for existence being CHARITY by endorsing socialism and socialist governance. But then, authoritarians share something in common. And if nothing else, the Roman Catholic Church certainly knows how to perpetuate itself politically, regardless of Christian genocide in the regions where the religion began (certainly not in Rome).

Posted by: maverick muse at March 23, 2012 05:36 AM (lpWVn)

209 Allen G you could always write-in Truther Debra Medina for President.

Posted by: polynikes at March 23, 2012 05:36 AM (A2cTV)

210 We've gone round and round here before about how making notations about the general (men are better at math, women are better at verbal) tells you nothing about the specific person standing in front of you. It may give you a starting point but it should not be the end point.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 09:30 AM (VtjlW)

 

-------

 

Well said.  And I'm open to exceptions.  If we could have a government full of Margaret Thatchers I'd be a happy guy.  Alas...

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 05:38 AM (xUM1Q)

211 polynikes at March 23, 2012 09:36 AM (A2cTV)

Chalk up another point for me.

You're as bad as UndeadStates about trying to deflect once you realize you can't win on the facts.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:39 AM (8y9MW)

212 Posted by: polynikes at March 23, 2012 09:28 AM (A2cTV)

You're fat, and your shoes are ugly!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:41 AM (nEUpB)

213 Anyone ever read The Descent? (not the movie one, the creepy book about deep caves)

that's what I'm thinking for WI


It sounds like water hammer. I wonder if they've got a city water supply or if they're all on wells.

Posted by: Heorot at March 23, 2012 05:42 AM (Nq/UF)

214 I'm sure Santorum will doing a Mea Culpa today or he is a bigger jack ass than I thought he was

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 23, 2012 05:42 AM (i6RpT)

215 >>LOL Heather! Breitbart was there.

It's the least I can do, really.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2012 05:43 AM (ZKzrr)

216 So, similar to the Medvedev/PUTIN dynamic then?

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2012 09:27 AM (X6akg)

 

 

 

Hopefully it's less coercive than that...

I sometimes think of how Puerto Rican relationships have been described to me.  A family member of mine worked there for several years, and he found that the smart woman let her husband think he was in charge, and treated him like the "big man."  But then she easily twisted him around her finger because he was so contented, and ultimately was the one in control. 

Unhappy wife = unhappy life is probably universal, but the state of things is probably most agreable to all parties when everybody gets to feel good about it. 

Of course, this is second hand info from a single man.  Take it for what it's worth.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 05:45 AM (xUM1Q)

217 Well I see Hot Air's Morrisey is using the Santorum gaffe as an excuse to walk back his endorsement of him.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2012 05:45 AM (GZitp)

218

I love seeing women on top. Especially my wife.

 

The head of our Louisiana office is a woman and she is extremely tough, confident, intelligent and capable. I pity the deluded motherfucker that ever attempts to patronize or condescend to her because of her sex.

 

He'd be rubbing ointment on his new asshole for the rest of the week.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 23, 2012 05:46 AM (APmL9)

219 #201   Yes,  I have noted the unemotional and logical reasoning of all of the men here on Ace of Spades.  It is quite impressive,  and an example to which I aspire.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 05:46 AM (GoIUi)

220 The ground is being prepared for the meme that the Court will uphold the individual mandate. The meme now: Conservative legal scholars privately admit that the Court will narrowly uphold it. Don't know if this has any basis in reality or is simply a disinformation operation; I link, you decide: http://preview.tinyurl.com/6tj7jdd

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 23, 2012 05:47 AM (RD7QR)

221 The Pope dies and the Cardinals gather in the Vatican to choose his successor.  While sequestered, they get a phone call.

The oldest Cardinal answers the phone and says "Hmm.  OK.  OK."

He turns to the conclave and announces "I have good news and bad news."

"The good news is that Jesus has returned."

"The bad news is that he called from Salt Lake City."


Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 05:49 AM (O3R/2)

222

Anyone ever read The Descent? (not the movie one, the creepy book about deep caves)


 

That scared the hell out of me.  Oh to whomever suggested The Rook, thank you, I just started that and I'm really really enjoying it so far.

 

 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 23, 2012 05:49 AM (VtjlW)

223

February 11th O'Fuckstick reinstates the ban on drilling on the outer continental shelf. Oil prices start to climb again. February 13th oil is around $38. By the end of 2009 it's back to $80. Then the BP oil spill, the ban on drilling in the gulf and voila, back to over $100. Do these stupid fuckers not understand the cause and effect of their actions?
Posted by: Hedgehog at March 23, 2012 08:56 AM (3jGS1

 

*Sigh*

 

It's  not  a  supply  problem;  oil   consumption  is  falling   and  we're  actually  exporting  gasoline.   The  real  problem  is  the  debasement  of  the  dollar  caused  by   the  crazy  government  spending   to  prevent  the  deflation   that  must  occur  to  clear  the  bad  debt  from  the  economy.  Until  that  happens  we'll  continue  compounding   the  damage   and  if   Washington  doesn't  stop  voluntarily,  cash  flow   will  stop  the  excessive  spending   in  an   uncontrolled  collapse.  

 

 

Obama,   Geithner   and  Bernanke   are   causing   the  ramp   in   gas  and  oil  prices  with  their  insane   printing  and  spending.   As   long  as  we   continue  to  emit  excess  dollars  to  purchase  our  own  debt  there  will  be  no  improvement  and  weÂ’ll  continue   our  headlong   rush  into  the  abyss  of   DOOM   and  nothing   Romney  or   any  other  Republican   has  proposed  will  stop  this    monetary  collapse.

  

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 23, 2012 05:50 AM (6BgmB)

224 233 The ground is being prepared for the meme that the Court will uphold the individual mandate. The meme now: Conservative legal scholars privately admit that the Court will narrowly uphold it. Don't know if this has any basis in reality or is simply a disinformation operation; I link, you decide: http://preview.tinyurl.com/6tj7jdd Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 23, 2012 09:47 AM (RD7QR) Well, happily memes have ZERO impact on what the court decision will actually be. These are all just very silly games. Frankly, I hope the SCOTUS upholds the mandate, because calling it unconstitutional would defuse one of Obama's biggest headaches heading into the general election.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 05:52 AM (niZvt)

225 "Don't know if this has any basis in reality or is simply a disinformation operation"

That's all it is. Expect to see a ton of these articles during the arguments, till the decision is released. The media's way of trying to present their case to the court. It's pathetic.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2012 05:53 AM (GZitp)

226 >>Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 09:46 AM

Heh!

Me, I'm in a "use your hate, Luke" phase right now.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2012 05:54 AM (ZKzrr)

227 Mitt Romney could be a flaming gay vegan Trotskyite. He'd still be better than Obama.

The idea that unless we get the One Perfect Conservative we should abandon the battlefield and let the Democrats wreck and loot America is more than just stupid, it's evil.

I am beginning to strongly suspect that some of these Romney-haters are getting checks from Media Matters.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 23, 2012 05:54 AM (YqQbl)

228 I am seriously worried that if the SCOTUS overturns ObamaCare millions of businesses throughout the country will go on a hiring binge.  

Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 05:54 AM (O3R/2)

229 Well, it IS the land of Anglicanism, after all. To be fair, the RC church has been saying unfair things about Henry VIII, Defender of the Faith, for centuries now, too.





Oh dear, they've been saying unfair things about him. Thomas More & John Fisher weep at the thought of that. Along with everyone else that megalomaniac had murdered. If Hank could have shot boy seed there wouldn't have been an Anglican Church.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 05:54 AM (1Jaio)

230 I would like millions of jobless folks to find work.  But not at the expense of another four years of the big 0 and three supreme court picks.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 05:55 AM (O3R/2)

231 Yes, I have noted the unemotional and logical reasoning of all of the men here on Ace of Spades. It is quite impressive, and an example to which I aspire.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 09:46 AM (GoIUi)

 

 

LOL.  Fair enough.  But remember - this is a blog for politics-geeks, who get all fired up about this stuff.  It's not a representative sample.  That said, I think the majority of the males here don't go non-linear until pushed for a while.  Also, those men usually have a fairly predictable response to different ideas - they still seem to operate based on principles, rather than on the emotional state of the moment.  An attack on their principles excites an emotional response - they don't change principles based on how they feel.

The 'ettes are an even less normal sampling of the population.  Most of the smarter, more sensible women forget that they are abberant.  Non-normal.  When I ask such women I meet in real life to stop and think in a detached way about how most of the women they know behave and make decisions, 4 out of 5 times they suddenly see my point. 

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 05:56 AM (xUM1Q)

232 "I am seriously worried that if the SCOTUS overturns ObamaCare millions of businesses throughout the country will go on a hiring binge."

It ain't just Obamacare that's strangling the economy.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 23, 2012 05:57 AM (GZitp)

233 Oh dear, they've been saying unfair things about him. Thomas More John Fisher weep at the thought of that. Along with everyone else that megalomaniac had murdered. If Hank could have shot boy seed there wouldn't have been an Anglican Church. Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 09:54 AM (1Jaio) Bloody Mary, anyone? Look her up. While you're at it, look at all the "Crusades" that were launched against eastern Europe by Catholics. Read about Jan Hus and what happened to him and his followers. Look, friendly interdenominational jibes about theology are one thing, but it's downright silly to claim that for millennia in Europe the Roman church was somehow a "victim." The RC was a political force of the highest magnitude, and it liquidated all opposition extremely efficiently and ruthlessly whenever it had half a chance.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 05:58 AM (niZvt)

234 Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2012 09:54 AM (ZKzrr)

Um...it's reactionary. He is...special.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 23, 2012 05:58 AM (nEUpB)

235 "T Distant Mirror" by Barbara Tuchmann, recommended on the Sunday book thread a few months ago is excellent.  Blame the French for the schism.  Three simultaneous popes?  RC collapsed under its own weight.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 23, 2012 06:02 AM (O3R/2)

236 >>Mostof the smarter, more sensible women forget that theyare abberant.

God, I wish that was possible.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2012 06:03 AM (ZKzrr)

237 Yeesh, do we really need to refight the Reformation? Let's concentrate our fire on those who hate ALL Christians.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 23, 2012 06:03 AM (RD7QR)

238 Let's concentrate our fire on those who hate ALL Christians.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at March 23, 2012 10:03 AM (RD7QR)

 

 

Good advice.  Protestants and Catholics haven't burned each other at stakes for quite a while now.  However, those who want to chop our heads off grow more numerous day by day, and so far we're doing exactly squat to secure long term victory over them.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 06:06 AM (xUM1Q)

239 "Abberant"? that's a new one on me... what does it mean?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 06:07 AM (niZvt)

240 @251: I concur. Nevertheless I do reserve the right to speak up on behalf of my church.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 06:08 AM (niZvt)

241

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 09:58 AM (niZvt)




Edward VI, Elizabeth I, Oliver Cromwell. The Crusades were initiated by the Pope the help out the Byzantine Empire after the battle of Manzikert (1071) and the subsequent loss of most of Anatolia to the Seljuq Turks but sold to western royalty as a way to restore the Holy Land. But don't let the facts get in the way of your anti-Catholicism

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2012 06:09 AM (1Jaio)

242 You conveniently left out the second sentence in that paragraph:

Instead of the massive new taxes, trillions of dollars in new spending,
and top-down bureaucratic decrees of ObamaCare, we need to limit
Washington's control by spurring competition, creating maximum
flexibility and enhancing consumer choice.


He goes on to detail suggestions like letting states decide, making insurance cross state lines to spur competition, giving tax credits to self-employed like businesses get, etc.

I suggest people take the time to go read the entire article and not depend on Romney opponent supporters to "interpret" what he wrote.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2012 09:09 AM (GoIUi)

 

The first ssentence was the operative one.  The rest is bulolshit.  Mittens has already spoken about how he'd like to use federal money to coerce every state to adopt an invidiual mandate on their own.  That is what he wants and that is the only thing he hasn't backed down on or flip-flopped about.  When he says,

"But abolishing ObamaCare will only be half the battle. Just as important is the question of what to put in its place. "

 

Do you understand how wrong-headed and fucked-up Mittens has to be to believe this.  That it is just as imprtant to replace an un-Constit3utional federal power grab?  WTF?  It is ONLY important to repeal and kill ObamaCare.  Period.  end of story.  Mittens wants  to use weasel words because he is going to be a weasel about this.  You'll see (although I suspect that deep down you know what I am saying is obviously true).

 

Like I said, I'll still be more than happy to play my part as hostage and vote for Mittens.  Like I said, I think he'll be easy to impeach.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 23, 2012 06:10 AM (iOOXO)

243 It's not a supply problem; oil consumption is falling and we're actually exporting gasoline.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 23, 2012 09:50 AM (6BgmB)

 

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With respect, rising global demand for a commodity with a supply that's "stable" at best, naturally drives up prices.  The Indians and Chinese are driving in numbers once unthinkable.  Both food and fuel have to go up in price, because demand is going up.  The developing world is getting richer.  We have to compete with them for raw materials and objects of normal human desires (like delicious MEAT, mmmm....).  Price increases are not always the same thing as inflation.  Increased demand, reduced supply, costs of new regulations - all of those can drive up costs without any change in the money supply.

Until the balance sheets in the US are repaired, inflation due to money "printing" is not a big issue.  We still have a lot of open productive capactiy that is going unused.  Unemployment is still pretty high.  The government can consume a lot of stuff without generating any shortages. 

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 06:14 AM (xUM1Q)

244 "Abberant"? that's a new one on me... what does it mean?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 10:07 AM (niZvt)

 

 

Sorry.  My spelling was wrong.  Should be "aberrant."  It means "deviating from the usual or natural type."

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 06:17 AM (xUM1Q)

245 "Nationwide, conservatives outnumber liberals by nearly two to one." Then why are presidential elections typically so close, and why did a leftist win the last one? Clearly, people's voting habits don't match their survey responses.

Posted by: sauropod at March 23, 2012 06:18 AM (iAkDQ)

246 No conservatives were in the general last time, only Chitown Jesus and Juan remember.

Posted by: akak at March 23, 2012 06:23 AM (vfQBi)

247 Actually, not to get all fussy or anything, but the oil is not in fact "here" on the map. The pipeline starts in Hardisty, Alberta, which is close to the border with Saskatchewan. The arrow on the map is far to the east in Saskatchewan, and is even close to the Manitoba border on the other side of the province. If you're complaining about a pipeline not being built, it's a good idea to know where exactly it's supposed to go!

Posted by: Peter Lougheed at March 23, 2012 06:23 AM (9qxEF)

248 Actually, not to get all fussy or anything, but the oil is not in fact "here" on your map. The pipeline starts in Hardisty, Alberta, which is close to the border with Saskatchewan. The arrow on the map is far to the east in Saskatchewan, and is even close to the Manitoba border on the other side of the province. If you're complaining about a pipeline not being built, it's a good idea to know where exactly it's supposed to go!

Posted by: John A. MacDonald at March 23, 2012 06:24 AM (9qxEF)

249 @254: there were other crusades: against the Cathars, the Hussites, the Orthodox. The word "crusader" is a byword for "German invader" in eastern Europe. And for every Thomas Moore, there's a Thomas Cranmer, first Anglican Archbishop, executed by Rome the same way Jan Hus was at Constance in Switzerland: agoning death by being burned alive. My only point is this: plenty of bad things were done by both sides, but it's just a bit rich to paint the RC in Europe as "victim."

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 06:26 AM (niZvt)

250 Steve Ratner (former car czar) say Obama has "no energy policy"

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 23, 2012 06:37 AM (e8kgV)

251 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2012 06:47 AM (7W3wI)

252 CoolCzech, I am going to the Czech Republic next month. My greatgrandparents came from Ceske Budovice in southern Bohemia. Most of what I have been able to find about there is in reference to beer. Anything else that you know of? Any relatives you want me to look up in Prague? I promise to be on unMoron like behavior.

Posted by: Museisluse at March 23, 2012 06:57 AM (q2H2p)

253 @265: LOL, most of my relatives live in Roudnice, about 40 minutes northeast of Prague, and don't speak English anyway. But thanks for the offer! If you do nothing else in Prague, buy a good guidebook at Barnes & Noble and take the walk from Wenceslaus Square (Vaclavsky Namesti) from the National Museum to Old Town Square, and continue on to the medieval Charles Bridge, being sure to stop at St. Nicholas to admire one of the finest examples of baroque architecture ever built. Then walk on up Nerudovaska street up to the Castle to visit St. Vitus Cathedral and the little Golden Lane, full of charming medieval homes of alchemists that used to work there. Also, visit the Renaissance-era Belvedere of Queen Ann, considered the purest example of Italian Renaissance architecture north of the Alps & absolutely beautiful. Outside of Prague... see Karlstein Castle: an awesomely beautiful and perfect medieval fortress that includes a huge, gold and semi-precious stone encrusted chapel in its main keep where the royal crown and sceptre of the Holy Roman Empire were once kept. Just a perfect castle: http://tinyurl.com/7o5ye5z Other pictures of all these places are readily googled. Enjoy your trip!

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 23, 2012 07:12 AM (niZvt)

254 "I was against it before I was for it."

or
"I am for it while I am still against it."

Hmm, either way, it's a killer. 

Posted by: Gulfkraken at March 23, 2012 07:20 AM (WBfjO)

255 http://tinyurl.com/7jnjdwp

This fits the equation.

Posted by: sTevo at March 23, 2012 07:35 AM (ozDp8)

256 Did you guys see Santorum's statement today?

Earlier today we got a spokesman saying Santorum will support Romney if he's the nominee... even though "Mitt Romney is a mirror image of Obama."

Nice.

Then we get Santorum himself, in a statement to Hot Air:

“I would never vote for Barack Obama over any Republican and to suggest otherwise is preposterous. This is just another attempt by the Romney Campaign to distort and distract the media and voters from the unshakeable fact that many of RomneyÂ’s policies mirror Barack ObamaÂ’s.  I was simply making the point that there is a huge enthusiasm gap around Mitt Romney and itÂ’s easy to see why – Romney has sided with Obama on healthcare mandates, cap-and-trade, and the Wall Street bailouts.  Voters have to be excited enough to actually go vote, and my campaignÂ’s movement to restore freedom is exciting this nation.  If this election is about Obama versus the Obama-Lite candidate, we have a tough time rallying this nation.  ItÂ’s time for bold vision, bold reforms and bold contrasts.  This election is about more than Barack Obama, Mitt Romney, or Rick Santorum – this campaign is about freedom and I will fight to restore your freedoms.”

I'm speechless.


Posted by: lael at March 23, 2012 07:50 AM (jvEwI)

257

With respect, rising global demand for a commodity with a supply that's "stable" at best,naturally drives up prices. The Indians andChinese are drivingin numbers once unthinkable. Both food and fuel have to go up in price, because demand is going up. Thedeveloping world is getting richer. We have to compete with them for raw materials andobjects of normal human desires (like delicious MEAT, mmmm....). Price increases are not always the same thing as inflation. Increased demand, reduced supply, costs of new regulations - all of those can drive up costs without any change in the money supply.
Until the balance sheets in the US are repaired,inflationdue to money "printing" is not a bigissue. Westill have a lot of open productive capactiy that is going unused.

 

 1.   Supply  is  not   "stable".  New   fields  are  being  discovered.

 

2.  The  Indians  and  the  Chinese  are   not  driving  up   the  numbers;  Chinese   imports  are  collapsing   almost  as  fast   as  their  GDP. 

 

3.   The  developing  world  isn't  getting  richer,   they're  piling   on  massive  debt  trying  to  maintain   their  own  ponzis. 

 

4.  Price  increases  aren't  inflation  without  a   corresponding  increase  in  wages.  Wages  are  shrinking;  the  price  increases  are  the  result  of  currency  debasement.   You  do  know   that  they  have  emitted  5  trillion    new   dollars   in  the  last  3.5  years  don't  you?   Are   you  really  trying   to  say  that  doesn't  have  an  effect,  especially  when  dollars  are  used  to  trade  oil?   Do  really  think  the  government  can  "print"   all   the  money  they  want  without   wrecking  the   currency?

 

If  you  really  believe  that  why  hasn't   Bernanke  just   fixed  everything   by   issuing   all   the  money   the  government   needs   to  pay  off  the  debt?   

 

You   should   demand  your  money   be  refunded  if  that  nonsense  was  taught  in   a   college  course   you  took.    

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 23, 2012 07:52 AM (6BgmB)

258

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 23, 2012 11:52 AM (6BgmB)

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New sources of oil are indeed being discovered.  Just as old ones are being depleted.  The cheaply accessed, easy oil is not so plentiful. Extraction costs matter.  There is plenty more that COULD be tapped, but in case you've not noticed, the federal government is putting it off limits.  To further strain the supply situation, many refineries in the northeastern US are closing down - they can't make a profit.  The loss of gasoline refining capacity is equal to something like the consumption of Argentina.

Worries about international tensions aren't helping.  First the wars, then the Libya debacle, and now Iran.  It's just one disruption after another.  There's no stability. 

To contend that the massive shift of manufacturing production to the developing world is not making them richer is absurd.  May as well say the industrial revolution did nothing for the West.  Rice prices are going up as farm land is diverted to meat production.  This doesn't happen in subsistence situations.  Their governments are, no doubt, piling up debt, just as ours is, but that doesn't mean they have no increase in prosperity. 

Wages are going down in the US because they must - this is the inevitable end result of a trade imbalance as severe as ours.  Prices are balancing out, as we race for the bottom. 

I have not asserted that increasing the supply of currency has no effect on its value.  Hardly anyone has (certainly not those who subscribe to MMT).  However, you have to look at where that money is going and what it is doing, and you must consider the velocity of money.  Money velocity right now is still very low.  Private sector debt is high and must be liquidated.  Local governments are cutting back in all the responsible states, which further drives down demand.  High unemployment curbs consumption.  Housing is in the tank still due to oversupply - last year my entire county had zero requests for building permits.  All these factors mitigate the effects of government over-spending. 

Further, in modern history there has not been a single hyperinflationary event that was not caused by either having massive civil unrest, or debt denominated in a foreign currency.  We have neither of those problems right now.  We may end up having "high" inflation, but we will not have Weimar's problems. 

BTW - Bernanke doesn't give the government an allowance to spend.  Money comes into existence as it is spent, and destroyed as it is collected in tax.  Period.  The fed can't tell the congress how much they can spend.  They can try to control overnight bank rates, and can do asset swaps to keep the banking sector liquid.  They're not the purse holder.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at March 23, 2012 10:02 AM (xUM1Q)

259 The strange underground booms in Clintonville, Wisconsin?




It's the economy stupid, it's BOOMING!

Posted by: Baraka Obamaka at March 23, 2012 01:02 PM (udEUT)

260

“We have subsidized oil companies for a century. We want to encourage production of oil and gas, and make sure that wherever we’ve got American resources, we are tapping into them. But they don’t need an additional incentive when gas is $3.75 a gallon, when oil is $1.20 a barrel, $1.25 a barrel. They don’t need additional incentives. They are doing fine.”

Ed Morrissey responds: “First, oil is not $1.20 or $1.25 a barrel. Today it was trading at $107 per barrel, or around 86 times what the President quoted here. Besides, this is about as big a non-sequitur as one can possibly create on the cost of gasoline. To the extent that this is coherent at all, it sounds as if Obama is claiming that the difference between the price of a gallon of gasoline and the price of a barrel of oil equals profit. That’s about as ignorant a claim on energy costs as I’ve ever heard.” Good thing that dumb cowboy Bush isn’t President, or the media would be making a big deal about this.

Posted by: Prezit Jug Ears on 3/22/12 at March 23, 2012 02:35 PM (baL2B)

261 Another ROTC building blowing up at the University of Wisconsin.

Posted by: burt at March 26, 2012 06:04 AM (OzqQM)

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