March 26, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Monday.
It'll be a busy day at the Supreme Court. There will be orders this morning, as well as decisions in at least one case. After that, the high court will have its first day's argument (of three) on Obamacare. Today's 90-minute argument will focus on the question of whether the individual mandate penalty is a tax or not. If it's a tax, the Obamacare lawsuits are untimely and will have to be dismissed until after the penalty has actually been enforced against an individual.
President Obama, speaking with Russian President Medvedev, was caught on an open mic asking for "space" on the issue of missile defense. Obama says he'll have more "flexibility" after the election. Flexibility to stab our allies and the defense industry in the back? Flexibility to stop pretending to be interested in national defense?
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:54 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:55 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:55 AM (YdQQY)
Captivity could help polar bears survive global warming assault, some zoos say
Yes "some Zoos say". The only Zoo mentioned in the Saint Louis Zoo and they don't say if they called for it or not. And the BS headline calls for Global Warming as if it is an established fact beyond question even though it has already been PROVEN to be a fraudulent scam. The Warmie SOBs will not give up. They just continue to print lies non-stop. Note also the stupid story below this one with title "Can Zoos Save Polar Bears From Extinction"? The damn bears are thriving you lying suckers of cock.
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:56 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:56 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:57 AM (YdQQY)
And what is a real pisser is that they will funnel the money through a regulatory agency using the power of executive fiat despite the requirement in the Constitution that no money be spent that has not been appropriated by Congress. The other shocker is that this liberal magazine printed this story.
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)
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(Did someone just admit 15% unemployment among #Gen44?)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 02:59 AM (hO8IJ)
I will be leaving in a couple of hours to go to The City for some Dr shit for wifey. Will be a short day for me today.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 02:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2012 03:00 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:02 AM (YdQQY)
Tell that to the millions who lost their policies.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 03:03 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Case at March 26, 2012 03:04 AM (GxTMf)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 06:59 AM (hO8IJ)
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Just think what the real numbers are.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:04 AM (YdQQY)
Putin laughs at him and continues his plans.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2012 03:04 AM (GoIUi)
If it's a tax, the Obamacare lawsuits are untimely and will have to be dismissed until after the penalty has actually been enforced against an individual.
It is this kind of stupid logic that is going to kill us all. If the mandate is (and it is) unconstitutional, then the need to *wait* is only a fool's game.
Posted by: dogfish at March 26, 2012 03:07 AM (N2yhW)
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What if we were to make a pointy stick out of metal?!?
Posted by: Monty Python at March 26, 2012 03:08 AM (udEUT)
One of the axioms of economics is that when you subsidize something you get more of it.
Obama and his cronies have clearly subsidized unemployment, so....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 26, 2012 03:08 AM (nEUpB)
I woke up thankful this morning, and just want say, "Thanks 52% for today". Jackasses.
Posted by: dogfish at March 26, 2012 03:13 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 26, 2012 07:08 AM (nEUpB)
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Looks like he mainly subsidizes his cronies. So I suppose we will get more cronies.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:16 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 03:21 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 26, 2012 03:22 AM (Gc/Qi)
Thanks for that happy thought.
Is it too early to drink?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 26, 2012 03:22 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Monty Python at March 26, 2012 07:08 AM (udEUT)
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Sorry Monty, pointy sticks and knives are also illegal in the UK, unless you are a Muzzie.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:22 AM (YdQQY)
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No. Here's the thing.. If it is ruled to be a tax, then it is legal and Constitutional, because does in fact have the power to levy taxes. This is the lynchpin of the Dems case.
But it isn't a tax. It's a penalty for not buying something.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 26, 2012 03:22 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 03:24 AM (niZvt)
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So it should be blocked because some people are stupid? As for the "personal info" they are already doing that. This is NOT new and you are volunteering for it.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:24 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 03:26 AM (niZvt)
Personally I would think it would be hard to argue tax angle when they repeatedly said the mandate and associated fines were NOT a tax during congressional sessions.
A good justice on the bench would make them look like idiots on that score.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:28 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 03:28 AM (niZvt)
They also covered Santorum's confrontation with the NYT reporter. Interestingly, the NYT story about Santorum did not mention the confrontation, although same reporter was on CBS to talk about it.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2012 03:29 AM (GoIUi)
Now that's funny, right there.
The "Republicans" are too busy pissing on each other and shooting off their damn mouths about issues over which they should have no control to pay any attention to, you know, real stuff.
Over the past three-plus years, I've wondered if so-called "conservatives" signed an agreement to give President Historic First© a free pass on his America-hating actions. Any "normal" president would have had his ass impeached long ago. But reactions to Osama Obama appear to be governed by a law that mandates placing the "Poppin' Fresh" disclaimer ("In fairness...") in front of any criticism.
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 26, 2012 03:30 AM (MQc8e)
I wonder how many tries it took to get that binocular photo shoot just right. No Mr. President, the big end points away from you. Yes Mr. President, binoculars are much more difficult to operate than an umbrella. No Mr. President, we don't have a pair with rose colored glasses.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2012 03:31 AM (ccXZP)
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Its blackdemocratium. Republicans are terrified of it. He and the CBC will play the nuclear option race card and they will all collectively fill their drawers.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:32 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:35 AM (YdQQY)
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I'm shocked they read books at all.
>>Employers have been asking potential hires for their permission to do financial and background checks for decades. What is sacred about a damn facebook page?
They're not asking for permission to view postings. They're asking for access they could use to post as the user and other mischief.
The last three "background checks" I had done by employers were solely about work experience and education over the past two decades--they weren't asking to know who I slept with in college or where I went on vacation in 2005. If the job doesn't require a clearance, that stuff's none of their fucking business.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 03:35 AM (hO8IJ)
You don't understand how the tool works, either.
Meanwhile, millions of strangers can read everything posted on this here smart military blog.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 03:37 AM (hO8IJ)
The last three "background checks" I had done by employers were solely about work experience and education over the past two decades--they weren't asking to know who I slept with in college or where I went on vacation in 2005.
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Do you put that kind of shit on your face book page?
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:37 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 03:37 AM (niZvt)
"Mr Sarkozy scents a breakthrough –
"Hollande hits back at Sarkozy on security"
By Hugh Carnegie in Bastia, Corisca 25 Mar '12, FT.com
Posted by: maverick muse at March 26, 2012 03:38 AM (lpWVn)
Vacation photos? Fuck yeah. That's whole point. You close-minded geezers never showed vacation photos your friends and neighbors?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 03:39 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 26, 2012 03:41 AM (gPDxp)
What do we actually know. Next time I talk to my little brother I'll ask him if they ask for Facebook passwords as he does all the initial interviews for new-hires.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:42 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 03:42 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 07:39 AM (hO8IJ)
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I wasn't talking about vacation photos. BTW I have seen yours on Flickr. I was talking about the other.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:43 AM (YdQQY)
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Ace is his own employer and anyone can already read when we post and the name we post under. As for telling "who" we are even ace can not determine that.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:46 AM (YdQQY)
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You don't have to trust them. They already can get anyone's stuff off the internet they want without even telling you they are getting it.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 03:47 AM (YdQQY)
Again, you don't understand the tool you're criticizing. Users can designate which people can and can't see each thing they post. The people I work with, for example, can't see any political links I post, and known AoSHQ morons can't see work stuff. "Friends of friends" can't see anything about me except my name and schools...and comments I make on mutual friend's links.
People too lazy to set this up deserve whatever they get, but that's not the tool's fault.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 03:47 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: McLovin at March 26, 2012 03:49 AM (j0IcY)
The US military tried and failed to scrub the Afghan shooter's FB postings. It's out there forever folks.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2012 03:49 AM (ccXZP)
Re the Facebook stuff, The government wants us to think it's about race/age/sex, but that's not it at all. They're looking to see if you're a loon or reprobate. Hard to get that from interviews sometimes, but it's amazing what people will post about themselves publicly. I don't blame employers for trying to use that resource.
Personally I don't do Facebook or anything like that, largely because I don't want contact from people from my past. But also, I have some strong opinions and they would surely come out. Showing almost any strong opinion, right or left, will convince many employers that you're not worth the risk. It need not be stormfront-like in intensity, either. HR departments are uncomfortable with anything other than an utterly bland human being with a set of useful work skills and no opinions on anything.
I think what's probably best is to make an utterly inoffensive social network site for yourself, with nothing but fluff, and us it as a decoy.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 03:50 AM (xUM1Q)
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Posted by: dogfish at March 26, 2012 03:58 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 03:58 AM (niZvt)
I've read numerous articles about blogs "outing" bloggers, by name.
Isn't it possible for Ace / blog owners to determine identity by Ip addresses?
(I'm pretty much illiterate when it comes to the internet, so asking in all seriousness)
Posted by: Carolyn at March 26, 2012 03:59 AM (CQId4)
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I don't disagree with you at all - but I know how these people think. HR types are always scouting for disqualifiers. Heck - my not using FB might itself be a disqualifier with some companies - "behind the times" or some such B.S.
I just figure we don't need laws to govern the particular level of snooping. Just fool the prospective employer with a dummy site. That said, if they banned employers from using social networking I wouldn't march on Washington over it. They'd just have to do like in the old days. You know - Google people.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 03:59 AM (xUM1Q)
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Posted by: CoolCzech at March 26, 2012 07:51 AM (niZvt)
Why is this complicated?
One of our many problems in this country is the loss of any sense that telling the government to fuck off is a good thing. I would extend that to any corporate drone who wants private information.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 26, 2012 04:01 AM (nEUpB)
Had a lib friend get fired over facebook last friday. She's not the most reliable, having missed 3 days in 2 weeks. But the owner of the business (shitty diner) told her one strike against her was that she was facebook friends with someone he doesn't like.
After letting her go on a while about how she would sue him for the FB remark I had to break the news to her that he can fire her for any or no reason as long as its not one of the few illegal reasons. (race, creed, age, etc...)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 26, 2012 04:04 AM (UpwlP)
Posted by: Jimmah at March 26, 2012 08:04 AM (UpwlP)
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Wow. Yet another excellent anecdote illustrating the folly of making private life public.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 04:05 AM (xUM1Q)
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Even the current impeachment threat (War Powers) gives Obama a mulligan for having already stripped Congress of duties and the "outmoded" US Constitution of relevance. The warning is good, better late than never. But the impeachment should have already begun. Tank Obama's 1st administration with his own unconstitutional record. The business of kicking the can down the road, allowing Obama's re-election campaign to flow unaccountably, is illogical, irresponsible and stuck on stupid.
How many more unprecedented unconstitutional usurpation of power and abusive authority will voters dismiss as if not happening? In perpetuity. Too many "conservative" people have drugged themselves on prescriptions mixed with alcohol, stunting the ability to exercise clear logic, emphasizing the irrational. So very few with constitutional authority exercise their duties with integrity. Congress is renowned for corruption. Members of Congress reputation used to be tainted with dereliction of duty; having become rampant with excessive and gross usurpation of power. It used to be that not financially contributing to a campaign left you without any clout when you complained. Getting tossed under Obama's bus is becoming the least of a voter's fears. Data mining is not a limited enterprise. Our own local representational Members of Congress collect enemy lists of their own, working in concert with data for sale to retain office, selectively punitive towards any opposition. It's primary season, and local ballots matter.
You'd have to be deaf and blind to misconstrue the hypocrisy of "conservatives" whining for constitutional governance while scapegoating constitutional integrity as looney, radical, stupid, weak, foolish, insane and unpatriotic.
If a candidate will not campaign on the Platform of Liberty, support one who will.
Posted by: maverick muse at March 26, 2012 04:06 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Beto at March 26, 2012 04:07 AM (j5CHE)
I'm a hideously-ugly middle-aged spinster. All I have is vacation photos.
>>They're looking to see if you're a loon or reprobate.
Yeah; if you can see my full profile, you can see I "like" Paul Ryan and Scott Walker and Mike Pence. I'm not ashamed of this but given that proggs are so welcoming of diversity of thought it's best if strangers who may potentially employ me don't see it (this is a problem with proggs, not the tool).
Password access isn't profile access though; if you have my password, you can "unlike" Mike Pence and "like"...whoever his Democrat challenger is (I have no idea, which is fine because I'm confident he's the best choice on the ballot come November), and fuck up my news-reading feed.
Anyone who wants that sort of access to my life, I don't want to work for anyway, but I'm not a newbie so I can be a little more picky than #Gen44.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 26, 2012 04:09 AM (hO8IJ)
The internet is not as anonymous as you might think.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2012 04:10 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: McLovin at March 26, 2012 04:10 AM (j0IcY)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 04:10 AM (8y9MW)
It's not government or employer intrusion that turned me off Facebook. It's Fuckerberg's stated goal of destroying internet anonymity. You're not customers, you're the product. And information is valuable. I just signed a contract at work to spend $30,000 updating addresses and phone numbers for our existing customer database.
Facebook's absurd valuation isn't based on cash, advertising revenue, property or FF&E, it's based on the enormous database they've compiled. Same with Google.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 26, 2012 04:12 AM (JDIKC)
When the recess appointment was made, I got upset and wrote my Senator, here is his reply on the 29th of February.
http://tinyurl.com/7tpuf6q
Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 26, 2012 04:14 AM (5KvzL)
And last of all we do not "know" they are asking for actual passwords. All we have us vague MFM reports about some companies (unnamed) asking for it after an even more vague initial report of "credentials".
And here is the bottom line, if you do not want people to know something, NEVER post it on the damn internet.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 04:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 26, 2012 04:15 AM (5KvzL)
If it were the stuff posted "publicly" they wouldn't need your password. If that was all it were, they would just need your facebook page. There is no legitimate reason for them to have access to your passwords for anything. The two caveats I might consider there are a) if the position would require security clearance or b) if you'll be doing PR for them. In both cases, I can understand why an employer would want to know if you were trustworthy to the tune of not sharing sensitive information with your friends or family (the kinds of people who might have access to your private pages).
Even then, I still don't see a need for the password. If an employer is concerned about that, their HR department should have a Facebook page, and they should request to be given access to view those private pages.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 04:23 AM (8y9MW)
He will be a formidable opponent, and Pence is often slightly pompous in his speaking, which will not be good against Gregg. Also the dems will use the religion thing against Pence.
I am nervous about this race.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 26, 2012 04:24 AM (GoIUi)
Isn't it possible for Ace / blog owners to determine identity by Ip addresses?
It depends on several factors. Here on Ace's site it's fairly easy to remain anonymous. You don't have to use your real name, you don't have to use a real email address (as long as what you put in is formatted like one), and your IP probably (in most cases, anyway) is going to resolve to some company router for your Internet Service Provider (or employer, for those of us who post at work).
Other sites make such anonymity more difficult.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 04:26 AM (8y9MW)
Consider well, texters. This generation of kids prefer texting to speaking aloud. EVERYTHING they "say" to each other is recorded.
Given voter determination to sabotage constitutional credibility, it would be foolish to presume that our taxpaying worker social status will remain as it is. Employment, equal opportunity or not, is a carrot that authoritarians dangle in order to manipulate the public at large, and individuals case by case.
Too many readers call bullsh!t because that observation hasn't happened to them, yet; or because they don't want to admit the trajectory that Americans are pursuing, knowingly/willingly or not. Stupid is as stupid does, ignoring the obvious along with the inference, because it would be uncomfortable and inconvenient to recognize.
Deserve has nothing to do with Obama not being held accountable for his unconstitutional administration.
Deserve has nothing to do with the denial of privacy.
Common sense establishes boundaries that an individual chooses to personally exercise in order to protect as best as possible one's own privacy, and one's constitutional rights. People are gullible until they choose to no longer presume themselves safe because they abide by rule of law. Our government, employers and people at large ignore rule of law, and hold the upper hand because voters sabotage every candidate who would hold the constitutional line with integrity.
Posted by: maverick muse at March 26, 2012 04:27 AM (lpWVn)
Whether Obama wins or not in November, the preceding sentence is accurate.
America is split, broken, and there is no common cause.
Reorganization is needed, and looks inevitable.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 04:27 AM (BoE3Z)
It'll be a busy day at the Supreme Court. There will be orders this morning, as well as decisions in at least one case.
Speaking of decisions
On this date in 1962 the US Supreme Court gave federal courts the power to order reapportionment of seats in a state legislature, a decision that eventually led to the doctrine of "one man, one vote."
Cousin John Marshall Harlan dissented.
Posted by: Nash Rambler at March 26, 2012 04:34 AM (b6FgX)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 26, 2012 04:34 AM (gPDxp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 26, 2012 04:35 AM (Af3Wg)
1. People use Facebook to communicate privately. I have a friend from college that I used to go shooting with a lot when we lived close enough. Now we chat about guns/hunting/fishing, etc. Would I want a potential employer to see the link to a sweet .50 cal he sent me? Would I want want them seeing the pictures of the AR-15 I built from parts that I sent to my friend? Knowing how populated with hoplophobe moonbats most HR departments are, hell no. Am I hiding anything illegal or immoral? No, just private.
2. The Facebook TOS prohibits giving your password out. Are you okay with an employer asking you to violate a contract you've agreed to with a third party as a condition of employment?
3. This is a slippery slope to employers asking for email accounts.
4. It is really no different than if they required applicants to allow access to their physical mailbox or allowed them to tap their phone.
That said, I don't think its a Federal issue. But, I damned sure think states can and should ban it.
Posted by: DanInMN at March 26, 2012 04:37 AM (Qzruh)
This whole issue seems like just another "squirrel" to keep the arguments in the media about bull shit insteadof the shitty economy and all of the current lawless administrations activities.
Lets have some for debates. This time we will let Axelrod act as the moderator and determine what questions to ask.
And a LOT of our Republican bretheren will think its fair and balanced.
Posted by: Vic at March 26, 2012 04:38 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 26, 2012 08:34 AM (gPDxp)
Franklin was rather prescient, no? Too bad "Americans" nowadays don't: know who the hell he is - dismiss him because he doesn't have a show, column, or Twitter account - is/was old, dead, white - and uses big words and long sentences.
We reap what we sow. Sucks, but there you go.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 04:41 AM (BoE3Z)
The goal is the same, the only difference is how to reach that goal.
I will vote for who ever the jackass is they run against the O in hopes they slow this train down, but in the end its all DOOM(I miss Monty)
Posted by: MarkC at March 26, 2012 04:41 AM (Kf68R)
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Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 04:43 AM (i6RpT)
Yes, Gnubreed, that also crossed my mind, how quickly certain folks ( here) were identified when it was deemed an emergency.
Posted by: Carolyn at March 26, 2012 04:45 AM (CQId4)
Posted by: dogfish at March 26, 2012 04:46 AM (N2yhW)
That's from the article in the sidebar about a mass extinction not being linked to climate change.
And it explains why exactly why they published it: it makes mankind the villain. "See?" it seems to say, "If it weren't for those nasty Humans, we'd still have these great big animals, and everything would be awesome."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 04:46 AM (8y9MW)
SEOUL, South Korea — At the tail end of his 90 minute meeting with Russian President Dmitri Medvedev Monday, President Obama said that he would have “more flexibility” to deal with controversial issues such as missile defense, but incoming Russian President Vladimir Putin needs to give him “space.”
The exchange was picked up by microphones as reporters were let into the room for remarks by the two leaders.
The exchange:
President Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but itÂ’s important for him to give me space.
President Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for youÂ…
President Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.
In other words he can go full commie on us
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2012 04:47 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: MarkC at March 26, 2012 08:41 AM (Kf68R)
Exactly. The only difference between Dems and establishment Repubs is the speed at which we reach the inevitable train wreck.
Posted by: Nash Rambler at March 26, 2012 04:48 AM (b6FgX)
Posted by: packsoldier at March 26, 2012 08:42 AM (9tLNI)
Point taken. On the other hand, I drove through Southern Indiana recently. I saw a small herd of llamas in a field. One of them was dry humping his buddy. I would vote for him in November.
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Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 09:00 AM (i6RpT)
Yeah, funny that. Maybe it's because too many people are too self-absorbed. As long as I have what I want.... and all that. And apathy, and demoralization and fear.... and no leadership. That.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 05:04 AM (BoE3Z)
I agree. I don't really think either one should be off-limits for them to ask, but I would never work for a company that asked those questions.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:04 AM (8y9MW)
They're willfully ignorant of what the President is doing. They don't want to know, so they don't know. Some are even worse- they're in active denial- but between the two, there's just no outrage when there should be.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:05 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2012 05:12 AM (uekSI)
They're willfully ignorant of what the President is doing. They don't want to know, so they don't know. Some are even worse- they're in active denial- but between the two, there's just no outrage when there should be.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 09:05 AM (8y9MW)
Yeah. Who will lead us? We need it. Who will be outraged, who will be brave enough to risk vilification, and plow right through it? Someone upthread mentioned Franklin, a man who was not a moral coward. Where are these leaders? It's come down to this, Allen, where bravery is called for. I'm not seeing it.
Obama is a coward and a fool, preceding anything else . The country is on the brink. We need founding father's bravery - nothing else will do.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 05:13 AM (BoE3Z)
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama is using privileged access to one of America's greatest landmarks to reward his most generous financial supporters in ways that Republicans Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum can't match: More than 60 of Obama's biggest campaign donors have visited the White House more than once for meetings with top advisers, holiday parties or state dinners, a review by The Associated Press has found.
The invitations to visit 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, which are a legal and established practice from incumbent presidents, came despite Obama's past criticisms of Washington's pay-for-access privileges and mark a reversal from early in the president's term when donors complained that Obama was keeping them at arm's length.
Barry: I'm shocked, shocked to find that fund raising going on in the White House.
PAC: Your donations Barry
Barry: Oh uhhhh ummmmm....I inherited this from the previous administration
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2012 05:14 AM (1Jaio)
Would I be too forward if I said: Here at the HQ? Maybe across other sites, too, but our politicians won't do it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:15 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2012 05:17 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 26, 2012 05:19 AM (ccXZP)
Not bad, though I think "dumber than a lady box" would be more accurate, IYKWIM.
Mine's quite discerning.
Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 26, 2012 05:19 AM (CMM9V)
Would I be too forward if I said: Here at the HQ? Maybe across other sites, too, but our politicians won't do it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 09:15 AM (8y9MW)
No, they won't. They're men of small convictions, in my view. There is positional authority, and real authority. They want the position, so they will pander.
It's funny, in a depressing way, to see them try so hard to be "liked", when all a lot of us want from them is to see a set of balls.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 05:20 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2012 05:21 AM (7vSU0)
The depressing thing is they aren't even being subtle about it.
It's directly in your face marxism.
It's you can't stop us marxism.
It's we are taking this mother fucking country down marxism.
And our purported leaders in the GOP don't seem to have a problem with it.
It's hard to see hills when your head is buried deeply in your ass!
Posted by: McLovin at March 26, 2012 05:22 AM (j0IcY)
128 Yeah, me too.
I'm expecting zombie Reagan to rise and beat the living shit out of President Algae over wanting to turn missile defence over to the Russians. Jeez.
Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 26, 2012 05:22 AM (CMM9V)
I wouldn't knowingly hire a democrat for any job. As a matter of fact, if I ever did need to hire someone, that would be an interview question.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 26, 2012 05:24 AM (UpwlP)
The problem with that theory is that the money has already run out (or never will, depending on your interpretation). We're using funny-money printed with no purpose but to pretend that we can pay our debts- and have been for quite a while now.
Maybe when inflation actually hits and we go all Weimar Republic, or something.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:25 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 26, 2012 05:27 AM (bMLFV)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 05:27 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: McLovin at March 26, 2012 09:22 AM (j0IcY)
I think that a lot of it has to do with the indoctrination people receive from schools and "entertainment". They have no clue as what this means and others are afraid to speak out against it because of the media backlash.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2012 05:28 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 05:28 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 05:31 AM (i6RpT)
So it should be blocked because some people are stupid?
You're damn right they are stupid!
What's the password to my facebook? I don't have a facebook, sorry.
Granted it's easy for me to come up with that cunning strategy, since I actually do not have a facebook page, but you are all welcome to use it.
Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2012 05:31 AM (TULs6)
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Boy, ain't that the truth. I got a phonecall the other day from a sister-in-law. It was an automated text-to-speech system reading me a text message she had sent to my land line.
Posted by: Anachronda at March 26, 2012 05:32 AM (6fER6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 05:32 AM (i6RpT)
But don't worry, the repeal of DADT has absolutely nothing to do with pushing the gay agenda. Not. A. Thing.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:34 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: maverick muse at March 26, 2012 05:35 AM (lpWVn)
Missile defense is like trying to hit a bullet with another bullet, in space, 150 miles away. If you know the VoB, all you have to do is make your rocket a little bit faster, or a little bit slower and our interceptor is worthless.
Its not like Putin would ever share that data with the Chinese, or the North Koreans or the Iranians ?
Huh ? Oh...oh.
Posted by: Chairman Mow at March 26, 2012 05:36 AM (ih+cL)
How come I think the RNC and other Republican entities won't use any of this dynamite stuff?
Posted by: jjmurphy at March 26, 2012 05:38 AM (xjEAl)
Because past actions are a good indicator of future performance?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:40 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at March 26, 2012 05:44 AM (Y1JCQ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:45 AM (8y9MW)
Because past actions are a good indicator of future performance?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 09:40 AM (8y9MW)
They think communists, and layabouts, and fringe group lefties of all stripes will vote for them if they just package themselves rightly. Fools. They have their man...
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 05:46 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 26, 2012 05:46 AM (CMM9V)
"...In 1831 young men in dark pants and white shirts with ties began circulating through suburban neighborhoods causing people to hide in the backs of their houses for hours. "
Fast forward to 26Mar91, there I was, in a small mining town in northern Chile, Diego de Almagro, white shirt & tie off, AC/DC tshirt on instead with dress pants as I helped dig the umpteenth hole for an outhouse for folks living on the edge of town. Good times, good times.
Posted by: fastfreefall at March 26, 2012 05:47 AM (timQz)
Barky never even bothered pretending that he was interested in the defense of America. Quite the opposite. The only people who ever thought that Barky had good intentions for America (and still say so) are idiot squishes on the right.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 05:47 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 05:49 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2012 05:49 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 09:45 AM (8y9MW)
Should come down in June, I think.
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2012 05:50 AM (z4Sl7)
I say to Mittens, "Physician, heal thy self."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 05:50 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2012 05:53 AM (WkuV6)
Never mind, he may say "Heads: 0bamacare stands."
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2012 05:54 AM (ykSKg)
I say to Mittens, "Physician, heal thy self."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 09:50 AM (X3lox)
Well, there's the problem, neatly expressed. Ogabe's intentions are pure malice. The candidate in question here is either stupid or disingenuous ( see- put on the red dress tonight). If he believes that, God help us.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 05:54 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Justicia Sotomayor at March 26, 2012 05:54 AM (z4Sl7)
I say to Mittens, "Physician, heal thy self."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 09:50 AM (X3lox)
Stoopid can't be cured.
Posted by: maddogg at March 26, 2012 05:54 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2012 05:55 AM (WkuV6)
Is it just me, or is a sad state we've come to when our best option is that our presumptive nominee is lying to us?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 05:55 AM (8y9MW)
Just a thought on Rick SantorumÂ…
Anyone who aspires to hold the office of President of the United States needs to have some basic abilities, one of which is having the sense to keep up with current events. Naturally, running for office is grueling and there isnÂ’t a lot of time, but part of being the chief executive of a country involves having people who will brief you on the most obvious news events because you know the press will ask questions about them.
Apparently, Santorum only catches bits and pieces of “news” from MSNBC. It’s also fairly obvious he doesn’t have anyone filling him in on what is important. His answer on the Trayvon situation over the weekend makes it clear he is entirely too fucking stupid to be anywhere near a seat of power.
Thank god this idiot has no chance.
Posted by: jwest at March 26, 2012 05:55 AM (FdndL)
Posted by: RWC at March 26, 2012 05:55 AM (fWAjv)
Affirmative Stupidity. Diversity of intellect. You have to love it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 05:56 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: MTF at March 26, 2012 05:56 AM (JOnLy)
Never mind, found my pet jawa link, he now is sawing the gang picture may not be poor Trayvon after all.
If I had a few sons, they'd all look alike.
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 26, 2012 05:57 AM (z4Sl7)
IMO, my job has no business knowing what I talk about in my personal life. I would not give out my Twitter identity in a job interview. This is no different, ethically, than Ace demanding that I provide the name of my employer prior to allowing me to post here.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 26, 2012 05:57 AM (Di+OU)
Never mind, found my pet jawa link, he now is sawing the gang picture may not be poor Trayvon after all.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at March 26, 2012 09:55 AM (hXJOG)
Trayvon... did you know that translates as "Horst" (as is Horst Wessel) in German?
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 05:57 AM (BoE3Z)
Lots of stuff in the blogosphere about GOP turnout actually being on the upswing. I thought the concensus was GOP enthusiasm was low this year?
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 26, 2012 05:58 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 26, 2012 09:57 AM (z4Sl7)
If you had a son, you'd be wondering who the father is, unless he was a limp wristed, effete snob
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2012 05:59 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 05:59 AM (Z9EHQ)
Mittens thinks that Barky is still well-intentioned .. but in over his head. Poor thing.
I say to Mittens, "Physician, heal thy self."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 09:50 AM (X3lox)
Well, there's the problem, neatly expressed. Ogabe's intentions are pure malice. The candidate in question here is either stupid or disingenuous ( see- put on the red dress tonight). If he believes that, God help us.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 09:54 AM (BoE3Z)
--Jame Taranto has pointed out that Willard is using a pretty good strategy: "He's a nice guy, but . . ." is just about the best way of damning with faint praise you can imagine.
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2012 06:01 AM (ykSKg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:02 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 26, 2012 09:58 AM (kaOJx)
--Libtard Media myopia: For example, turnout was lower in Chicago, therefore of course they assume lower in all of Illinois, since to them that's the only part of the state that exists.
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2012 06:05 AM (ykSKg)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 06:06 AM (i6RpT)
I use it to read info from Ryan/Pence/Walker, read stuff posted by other conservatives and add comments (the same way you use AoS...) and look at pictures of my nephews.
Do you think I'm stupid?
Posted by: Whoopi at March 26, 2012 06:07 AM (ZKzrr)
Re: #9 (I know, I'm late to the party.)
The funny thing about all this (having a disabled mother-in-law myself) is that the article mentioned "community care" which (sadly or happily I suppose) will need to become a bigger part of care for the disabled (as well as and especially Alzhiemer's Patients) simply to keep down the cost of care as soon as the "epidemic" kicks in (estimates place that at about 15-20 years out).
Of course the DOJ fails to recongize 2 things. First, you can't hamstring these providers because they'll need to expand on fairly shoostring budgets. Secondly, I said "community care" needs to expand, this isn't the same as "Medicaid Waiver care" (which is what the DOJ wants to expand). You can't just throw money at the problem and make it go away. Hell, I wish I could throw money at it and make it go away, but we'd be dealing with sums that would make the stimulus look like a blip.
Posted by: tsrblke at March 26, 2012 06:07 AM (SYrwI)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:09 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2012 10:01 AM (ykSKg)
This "strategy" is so wrong it isn't funny. It is stupid and displays contempt for anyone who actually loves America and what this nation stands for.
Telling such ridiculous, bald-faced lies such as Barky being nice or caring about America doesn't make a good political strategy. It's just stupid. And worse, it's a lie. A big, big lie. Cowards like to tell these sorts of lies. Cowardice will not win anything this election.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:10 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:11 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 10:06 AM (i6RpT)
Oh, come on now. You remember how McCain took on Rev. Wright & the Church of Christ organizing storefront, don't you? Oh wait.....
Anyway, you see how much bolder all of this crop of Republican candidates are than McCain was, don't you? Just have a little faith in them, they'll grow a pair, sometime.
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 06:13 AM (BoE3Z)
First thing I hear on the news on the radio this morning is two British troops have been murdered by an Afghan soldier in Lashgah Gar, a forward operating base in Helmand Province.
Our son has been on a convoy in that area since early last week. Won't hear from him until he's back on base, whenever that is.
Prayers, please.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2012 06:13 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:13 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Baraka Obama at March 26, 2012 06:13 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Jean at March 26, 2012 06:14 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 10:10 AM (X3lox)
--Remember, it' not to appeal to us, but to the mushy and disengaged middle. Eyes on the prize.
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2012 06:14 AM (ykSKg)
Posted by: Israel at March 26, 2012 06:15 AM (i6RpT)
Prayers, please.
You've got it...
Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at March 26, 2012 06:15 AM (ZHge+)
Among them? Perhaps. If they all started taking testosterone now.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 06:16 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2012 06:17 AM (ykSKg)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:17 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 26, 2012 06:17 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 26, 2012 06:17 AM (0tRzD)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 06:17 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Baraka Obama at March 26, 2012 06:18 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 10:13 AM (Z9EHQ)
Yep. I'm sure Mittens will be able to explain why Barky is well-intentioned (but confused, no doubt) in his promise to give the store away to his idols, the Soviets, the minute he's re-elected.
As with 2008, we can't say that Barky is hiding his idiocy or his anti-Americanism. It's the Vichy Right who have to work hard to reinterpret Barky's words to make him sound "well-intentioned, but just unable to figure it out," ... the poor patriotic Indonesian.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:18 AM (X3lox)
Over what? The great drubbing their freedoms have taken at the hands of the Republican controlled House?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 06:18 AM (8y9MW)
The legendary Los Angeles to Las Vegas rail line is all you need to know about why the North-South bullet train proposal is a non-starter.
The Vegas run has everything going for it. Huge swaths of barren open land running parallel to the I-15 with scarcely any of the problems a long run through urban areas would have. There is a huge guaranteed ridership on the weekends for partiers everybody would just as soon not have driving.
There is already freight connections between LA and LV. They just need to be improved to allow for faster passenger runs. And those don't have to be terribly fast. Averaging close to 100 MPH gets you there in under three hours with few stops needed.
And best of all, there are some very deep pocketed private interests who'd like to see this happen.
But it never has and likely never will. A flight gets you from most of the major southern CA airports in about an hour and is price-wise competitive with what it takes to fuel a car for the trip. I've made a few day trips to LV from JW in Orange County in a friend's 6 seater Beech Craft. It took longer to get to the airport than was spent in the air. Flying out of Van Nuys would be preferable but Frank has this funny desire to have his plane near where HE lives.
So, an easy to build train with few technical obstacles on a high value route cannot raise the capital. This tells us everything we need to know about why a far more ambitious design on a far less valuable route is a really bad idea.
Posted by: epobirs at March 26, 2012 06:19 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Baraka Zulu at March 26, 2012 06:20 AM (ykSKg)
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2012 06:20 AM (7vSU0)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 06:21 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: logprof at March 26, 2012 10:14 AM (ykSKg)
EVERYONE knows that Barky is a prick and liar. Even his most steadfast supporters know that - they just think he's a prick and lies for them. For Mittens to say that he doesn't think Barky is a dick shows EVERYONE that he is lying or too stupid to realize what everyone else knows.
"There's a slightly creepy cult of personality about him [Barky]." -- Evan Thomas, HUGE Barky supporter on the night of his illegal election.
THEY ALL KNOW!!! Only Mittens is clueless.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:22 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2012 06:22 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Presnit Otreason at March 26, 2012 06:22 AM (SuBE0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:23 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:23 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 26, 2012 06:23 AM (Ho2rs)
The most amazing thing of all is that, to his credit, Obama has not really
tried to hide what he is or what he is about.
It's all there Affiliations with Radicals, Community Agitation, Destroying enemies, Cronyism, Marxist Policies.
If we had an opposition party that was really and truly an opposition party, there is not a snowballs chance in hell that he would have been elected Senator let alone President.
Posted by: McLovin at March 26, 2012 06:24 AM (j0IcY)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 26, 2012 06:25 AM (niW49)
Also, you can get lefties to object to big government spending when there is a risk it may produce something of value, albeit at a grossly inflated price. They far prefer to piss money down a welfare hole that only produces more recipients.
Posted by: epobirs at March 26, 2012 06:25 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 06:26 AM (BoE3Z)
Geez.
And we lose elections to these people.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 06:26 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2012 06:26 AM (7W3wI)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:28 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: steevy at March 26, 2012 06:28 AM (7W3wI)
Posted by: McLovin at March 26, 2012 10:24 AM (j0IcY)
Yep. Instead, we have an "opposition" party that is scared of Barky's un-Constitutional acts being held against them if they mention them.
It makes me want to cry like a Boehner.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:28 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Cricket at March 26, 2012 06:29 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:29 AM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 06:30 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 26, 2012 06:32 AM (pVvkk)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:32 AM (5H6zj)
sad as it is at least we are having elections.
So did Iraq, Cuba, USSR, so does Iran, China, etc. etc.
Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2012 06:34 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2012 06:34 AM (FcR7P)
The fact that Afghan "soldiers" are murdering NATO troops at an ever-increasing rate, and there's not a peep from our cowardly, inept CiC enrages me.
I want my kid home.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2012 06:34 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 26, 2012 06:35 AM (e8kgV)
They probably have rigging and fraud, but Iran and China probably do not have any more rigging and fraud than we do.
Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2012 06:35 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2012 06:35 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: blaster at March 26, 2012 09:49 AM (7vSU0)
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Politics is the art of the possible. Moving the budget steadily and measurably in the right direction is more important than achieving a certain number by a certain date. If you simply went cold turkey and slashed the budget to balance in a couple years, the effects on the economy would be utterly crippling. Not to mention political suicide. Better some inflation than a deep crash. Inflation is, in itself, essentially a tax. And, I might add, it's the kind of "fair" tax that hits everyone regardless of income, which has been a popular theme around here.
Besides - until the economy really begins to recover, inflation will remain tame. For now, if you have extra money, buy productive assets. Don't just hold cash.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 06:35 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: t-bird at March 26, 2012 10:34 AM (FcR7P)
2012: Obama vs. America
And the GOP will be totally useless after 2012, no matter how the election goes. This is the last hurrah for the GOP.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:37 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:38 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: tubal at March 26, 2012 06:38 AM (BoE3Z)
Twitter kicks facebook's ass
I switched to Firefox beta 12 this weekend, and I took a small amount of actual joy in deleting twitter from the list of search engines.
Anyone know how I can shove youtube in there?
Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2012 06:38 AM (TULs6)
New plan, draft all male Afghanis, PT them until their assholes are sucking buttermilk, shoot any who complain.
Ok, the joke and our real plan both need work.
Best to all the boys, Doh and dough.
Posted by: DaveA at March 26, 2012 06:39 AM (PTim3)
My heart is broken for the British families who are getting the Worst News Ever.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2012 06:40 AM (UOM48)
Politics is the art of the possible.
Then politics will not solve our problems, ever. You can make a sound case for incrementalism, but it's quite a farse if you can never even make the first increment and never even start.
The Ryan budget is too extreme to pass, and not extreme enough to fix anything. For decades and running, the GOP has been incapable of even meaningfully slowing the rate of increase in growth. Nothing looks to be changing anytime soon.
Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2012 06:42 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 10:32 AM (5H6zj)
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That is an interesting (and scary) chart. After the initial horror wears off one can see a great opportunity. If even 1/2 of the ideas conservatives have to improve the economy were put into practice, we could see dramatic gains. There is probably a lot of low hanging fruit to harvest.
Of course, I think it also reveals one other nasty problem - companies are figuring out that they can do a lot with fewer people on the payroll. Computers and machines are great - but we have not yet figured out how to employ all the surplus labor they free up - especially the dummies. And there are lots of those. What do we do with them? Not everyone is equally clever. What can those people do if there is no opportunity? If we want to fight back against entitlements, we have to acknowledge this challenge.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 06:42 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:42 AM (5H6zj)
I have to disagree, strongly. Rising interest rates will force us to close the gap in an instant, at some point, as debt service will break us - literally. The Fed is still carrying a nearly 3 trillion balance sheet that must be unwound some day and that will not be some day 40 years from now.
The US debt is now concentrated in the shortest maturities, EVER. We are highly susceptible to moves in interest rates and MUST roll over huge amounts of debt very frequently. Right now, we are living in a bubble of insanely low interest rates and we're not taking advantage of them (selling 2 year notes to finance debt while the 30 year is at an all time insane low shows how we badly this situation is being constructed). The minute interest rates start to rise, our debt service skyrockets (unlike historically, when our debt was more concentrated in longer maturities and required much less turnover and interest exposure.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:43 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:45 AM (5H6zj)
Yep, everything is great BUT we've got to keep the money flowing
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 26, 2012 06:45 AM (1Jaio)
We're heading to Capitol Reef and Bryce in May.
Make sure that the narrows are open before you go...no reason to go to bryce before they open up.
If you ever get the chance to go to Canyon De Chelly in N. Arizona.
Posted by: garrett at March 26, 2012 06:49 AM (z4Sl7)
The tsunami from this quake killed several people on the beach in Crescent City, CA, prompting the creation of the Pacific Tsunami Warning System still in use today.
Rock and roll, Alaska style.
Posted by: tcn at March 26, 2012 06:49 AM (WhSRj)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:50 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Barry Ofuckstick at March 26, 2012 06:51 AM (Fvey9)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:51 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: artemis at March 26, 2012 06:53 AM (2XMD1)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:53 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 10:43 AM (X3lox)
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Well, I understand your concern, and for many nations that's a pretty big deal. But the thing is that we don't actually NEED to borrow any money. If it were up to me we'd quit with the borrowing and just print as needed. Inflation in the 'now' is easier to measure and adjust for than trying to sterilize excess spending with borrowing, which then compounds the future budgeting problem.
A fiat system needs a certain amount of deficit spending to allow for savings and currency replacement. Now, 1 trillion a year is WAY beyond that necessary deficit level - I think we'd all agree - but it's time to discard the idea that dollars are anything other than an unbacked, artificial construct. The idea that all deficit spending can, or should, be covered by borrowing is itself unsound.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 06:53 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Malia in Mexico at March 26, 2012 06:54 AM (DATOZ)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 06:55 AM (5H6zj)
You cannot monetize an increasing debt. Monetization only works (so much as it can work) when the debt has been stabilized. If the debt is still increasing, then monetizing it is just throwing gasoline on a fire.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 06:55 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:56 AM (Z9EHQ)
Tiger Woods is 'Amerasian' but my daddy is 'black'.
And Zimmerman is a white hispanic.
Race is bullshit. All these groupings are arbitrary, and they are mostly political constructs. These are not ethnicities but patronage lobbies.
Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2012 06:58 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 10:55 AM (X3lox)
You can - you just have to live with the inflation. Inflation is the natural feedback mechanism for a fiat system. It's what tells you if the government is consuming too much. It's the efforts to mitigate inflation that tend to muddle the situation.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 06:59 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 10:55 AM (X3lox)
Well, then I'm out of ideas.
Posted by: Ben Bernanke at March 26, 2012 06:59 AM (z4Sl7)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 06:59 AM (Z9EHQ)
When I search the internet for my name I get a bunch of dead people who aren't me (I don't think) and on my maiden name I get one article about a church thing from when I was a child.
But, in order to get the contract job I am just finishing, I had to sign a waiver for a full background check, including credit history etc. Which I found pretty damn intrusive but the recruiter assured me all they do is check to see if I have a criminal record. Well, if that's the case why did I just sign a pages long document of things that I just gave you the right to search for?
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 26, 2012 07:03 AM (RZ8pf)
Maybe a precipitous drop in poll numbers with Hispanics?
Posted by: kbdabear at March 26, 2012 07:05 AM (Y+DPZ)
No. The monetary system would be destroyed. Inflation (hyper-inflation, actually) destroys currencies. There's nothing more dangerous than playing with the currency in this way.
Inflation is the natural feedback mechanism for a fiat system. It's what tells you if the government is consuming too much. It's the efforts to mitigate inflation that tend to muddle the situation.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 10:59 AM (xUM1Q)
That's mostly true - though price inflation doesn't tell you everything. Monetary inflation can exist without the consequent price inflation showing up for quite some time (as we have, now). This delay makes the feedback mechanism you speak of less than efficient, to be charitable. Further, given our Just-In-Time inventories and the way our modern economy is put together dynamically, we have more of a need for integrity in our currency than any of the older, more staid economies.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 07:05 AM (X3lox)
Tell me, culturally or ethnically, what the hell a central american indian who speaks an indigenous language has in common with a half-portugese half-african-via-the-caribean south american?
Because it's usefull, the larger the group is, the more political power it wields.
Jews use to not be white, but now they are white. They turned white! Hispanics use to not be white, but now some of them are too. Italians use to not be white. Greeks are 'white' but they have more in common with Turks than they do with Norwegians.
It's very subject to change. It's not even based on skin color. It's politics.
Posted by: Entropy at March 26, 2012 07:05 AM (TULs6)
Posted by: artemis at March 26, 2012 10:53 AM (2XMD1)
The controversy was certainly not over publicly posted things. An employer can look to his heart's content before an interview.
Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 26, 2012 07:05 AM (xAtAj)
The credit check thing is pretty common. They're looking for anything that could be used to compromise you or blackmail you. If you have money issues, then you may be open to bribes, if you have a mistress then you'd be open to blackmail, that kind of stuff.
Posted by: Alex at March 26, 2012 07:06 AM (tlK1P)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 07:06 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 26, 2012 07:07 AM (Ho2rs)
I wonder if Cheney ever read the thread? You know someone had to point it out to him.
Shamefaced admission, I've told the "night of the sodomizing cougar-man" joke in mixed company (cons and libs). That joke just kills.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 26, 2012 07:07 AM (Di+OU)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 07:08 AM (Z9EHQ)
Hey, have there been any updates from the Saga of Stuck-on-Stupid?
Last one I'd read, he'd gotten a new, top-of-the-line computer after "someone" had dumped a soda on his previous one. This was probably a good week or two ago, so I'm sure there's an update or two since, but I can never seem to find them... Links, or at least a "it's in thread x" pointer.
Posted by: reason at March 26, 2012 07:09 AM (q/kmn)
That's because they won't be able to control the narrative and they can't figure out how to play this thing, because one look at the "White Hispanic" and you'll have the Latino community up in arms.
Not good for business or the Democrats/MBM
Posted by: McLovin at March 26, 2012 07:09 AM (j0IcY)
"there was a march in phx for trayvon.....some white brown female was interviewed....she said no one is doing anything about trayvon except them!!!!"
What, pray-tell, "needs" to be done in the first place?
Posted by: reason at March 26, 2012 07:10 AM (q/kmn)
Shamefaced admission, I've told the "night of the sodomizing cougar-man" joke in mixed company (cons and libs). That joke just kills.
I was there sir, it was no joking matter.
Posted by: Felina from Rosa's Cantina at March 26, 2012 07:11 AM (z4Sl7)
Maybe a precipitous drop in poll numbers with Hispanics?
Heh. I predicted in a discussion with my father that we'd see a week or two of Trayvon coverage, and then the media would drop it completely once it started to backfire. They need outrage to gin up support among blacks, but they can't afford to alienate Hispanic voters.
Posted by: Alex at March 26, 2012 07:11 AM (tlK1P)
It proves the marchers CARE. Proving one is well informed isn't important to these people.
Posted by: Retread at March 26, 2012 07:11 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 26, 2012 07:13 AM (MUpmA)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 07:14 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 07:15 AM (Z9EHQ)
The MBM seems to have gone quiet on the Trayvon thing. Strange, since these are people who talk about a story with racial elements long after we're tired of hearing about it.
I haven't seen this. We have CNN playing in my firm's break area (the happy medium between MSLSD and Fox) and the talking heads were chatting about Evil Whitey. Well, that and how stupid the country is for not understanding that Obamacare is wonderful after all this time.
And Philly's Mayor Squidward went on record as saying that Treyvon's killing was an "assasination". He also admitted that he knows nothing about the case except what he's seen on the MSM. He did NOT admit that commenting on a case that happened a month ago and 1,000 miles away while info is still trickling out, in a city which has an epidemic of crime committed by hoodie-wearing jackals, might be a bit imprudent and incendiary.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 26, 2012 07:15 AM (YmPwQ)
Worse, for them, it keep seeming more and more (from what I'm seeing) that this is exactly what it seemed when the police originally investigated: a man shot a teen (who turns out to have been unarmed) in self-defense- after suffering a broken nose and a contusion to the back of the head (that latter one being the real cause of concern: it's not all that hard to kill someone by pounding their head into the pavement, even if you're the proverbial 98lb weakling).
We can certainly talk about the failures of judgement that led to the shooting, but the shooting itself seems to be exactly what the police said from the beginning.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 26, 2012 07:15 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 07:17 AM (5H6zj)
I'm hoping for a happy ending to the story.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 26, 2012 07:17 AM (Di+OU)
He (Nutter) did NOT admit that commenting on a case that happened a month ago and 1,000 miles away while info is still trickling out, WHILE ACTING AS MAYOR of a city which has an epidemic of crime committed by hoodie-wearing jackals, might be a bit imprudent and incendiary.
Fixed it for me.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 26, 2012 07:18 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 07:18 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 07:18 AM (Z9EHQ)
Mornin ya'll.
Oh, they're still stroking the Trayvon thing.....Fox just did an update on it. ....Showed some snipets of videos of the night it happened, when police had gotten to the scene....and what various people are saying about the case.
....Zimmerman has gone into hiding because of all the death threats. His friends are speaking out on his behalf, saying that he acted in self defense after being attacked.
Any MSM coverage of the white students gunned down in MS? ....I haven't seen any.
Posted by: wheatie at March 26, 2012 07:19 AM (dEMjC)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 07:22 AM (Z9EHQ)
"Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for every 1,000 unmarried white women, 22 for every 1,000 unmarried Asian women, and 66 for every 1,000 unmarried black women. Forty-five percent of all Hispanic births occur outside of marriage, compared with 24 percent of white births and 15 percent of Asian births. Only the percentage of black out-of-wedlock births—68 percent—exceeds the Hispanic rate. But the black population is not going to triple over the next few decades."
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] at March 26, 2012 07:23 AM (qOfw/)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 07:25 AM (5H6zj)
It's windy today at the EagleCam nest. ....Mom fed the babies and is sitting on them to keep them warm....but you can see their little heads sticking out.
/Conservation/EagleCam.aspx
[had to split the link to get it past Pixy] .....Those are fish carcasses lying around the edge of the nest, btw.
Posted by: wheatie at March 26, 2012 07:26 AM (dEMjC)
philly did have a problem with people assassinating cops.
Cops and regular citizens. Our murderers seem to be equal-opportunity killers, the victims are of all races, but the perps sem to be of one. If they aren't shooting each other, they're going on "wilding" trips to Center City and singling out whitey or Asians but of course, that's a mere coincidence.
And I do not denounce myself. I'm not making a blanket statement. The facts are the facts.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at March 26, 2012 07:27 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 26, 2012 07:28 AM (Z9EHQ)
"For those asking about StuckonStupid, the girl he met during while it was all going on, Hummingbird, stopped by Saturday night to say hello. She was very nice."
Aww, man. She came here on a Saturday night? Into an ONT?
That's a bit much for a newbie to take on. Belly of the Beast level, right there. I can't help but think she's scarred for life.
You've got to take it easy on new people. Warm them up a little with something like NiceDeb or InnocentBystanders. Let 'em get a few charts under their belt. Allow them to fully appreciate our unwavering hatred of iceback Scandis.
Posted by: reason at March 26, 2012 07:30 AM (kZVsz)
Re: Zimmerman - I can't puzzle out why the "hispanic community" isn't angrier about several aspects of this story. Maybe they will once it becomes common knowledge that a) Zimmerman is, in fact, hispanic, and b) Zimmerman was, in fact, defending himself.
Posted by: reason at March 26, 2012 07:37 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 07:39 AM (5H6zj)
Is this not an act of treason? I think this topic should have a flaming skull thread.
Posted by: Typical White Person at March 26, 2012 07:42 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 26, 2012 11:05 AM (X3lox)
I think this concern, while prudent, is a bit overblown. In modern history, all hyperinflationary events have been caused by 1 of 2 things, or a combo. Those two things are major civil unrest, or debt denominated in a foreign currency. We don't have either of those two conditions. This includes both of the usual poster children for hyperinflation - Weimar and Zimbabwe.
Consider the TARP related bank reserves. Those aren't making into the real economy - they're sitting on balance sheets. They were the product of asset swaps, and the fed can pull those reserves as fast as they want if we do get overheated. That alone is a potential brake on inflationary problems.
Here's the thing - we can't have a balanced budget, without creating a contraction due to a shrinking money supply. That's part of why we had a recession after the Clinton surplus years. This means some deficit spending (preferably way, way, way less than we have now) is mandatory. Borrowing it forever isn't the solution. We should acknowledge the system we have rather than pretend it's a hard currency system. The rules are similar, but not identical.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 26, 2012 07:50 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Y-not at March 26, 2012 08:01 AM (5H6zj)
No reason at all. Now if you'll please step through the scanner again we need to, uh, check you again. But it's nothing you should concern yourself about. Heh-heh.
Posted by: The TSA at March 26, 2012 08:09 AM (/izg2)
Did it ever occur to you that asking for a Facebook password is an intelligence test? If you are dumb enough to give it to them - they know that you can't be trusted with corporate confidential information - so no job for you.
Posted by: An Observation at March 26, 2012 08:29 AM (ylhEn)
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Posted by: TSA Agent #3 at March 26, 2012 08:32 AM (5H6zj)
Please have a seat inside my office, while I review your travel itinerary. Yes, through those doors.
Why yes, those are leopard-print velour sheets.
No ma'am. There is no chair in my office...
...only love. WAIT, did I just say that out loud?
Posted by: TSA Management at March 26, 2012 09:03 AM (kZVsz)
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