March 28, 2012

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— Gabriel Malor

Happy Wednesday.

Today is the Supreme Court's final day of argument on Obamacare. 90 minutes will be devoted to whether the mandate is severable from the rest of the law. Then 30 minutes will go to the issue of the Medicaid mandate imposed on the states.

In my interview yesterday morning with Rep. Phil Roe, the Tennessee congressman said that he believed that this is one of the most important cases since Roe v. Wade and Brown v. Board of Education. Rep. Roe's comment seemed to presage the observation from Justice Kennedy that the individual mandate changes the relationship between the government and the person "in a fundamental way" requiring a "heavy burden of justification." I've now heard Justice Kennedy's comment on the broadcast national news last night, the local TV news last night, the FM radio station I'm listening to as I type this, and the local TV news this morning.

My concern is that Justice Kennedy might just find an extraordinary justification for the individual mandate. That's precisely what the Obama Administration has been arguing: "healthcare is different." That was, by the way, the same language that several congressmen used to explain why their constituents are opposing Obamacare.

Rep. Diane Black explained that people are concerned by the uncertainty in not knowing what's going to hit them next in something so fundamentally important as health care. Rep. Phil Gingrey said that the number one concern of his constituents is that they don't want the federal government to have that much involvement in their lives.

Each of the congressmen I talked to said that either way the Supreme Court rules, more reform is needed. Rep. Wally Herger had the strongest statement on that, vowing "we're not going to stop until we repeal Obamacare." Sen. Ron Johnson suggested that there were many reforms that will help lower costs of healthcare. He cited as examples health savings accounts and opening up the insurance market as much as possible as a free market. Sen. Johnson noted that where the free market fails, for example with individuals who have serious preexisting conditions, the states have seen success with high-risk pools.

Finally, I want to share with you a story from Sen. Johnson I did not know before talking with him yesterday. Johnson explained that he was particularly offended during the Obamacare debate when the President suggested that money-grubbing doctors would unnecessarily "come after your tonsils" or amputate a leg. Johnson explained that his daughter was born with a serious heart condition and that doctors---doctors like the ones that Obama was demonizing---had saved her life after extraordinary efforts. It was, Johnson said, one of the things that impelled him to run for his Senate seat. Johnson noted that, under Obamacare, innovative treatments---like that which saved his daughter---would be limited not according to doctors' decisions, but the decisions of bureaucrats in Washington.

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1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Wednesday, March 28th, 2012.  On this day in 1979 the much ballyhooed accident at Three Mile Island occurred. There were essentially no releases of any magnitude to the public but hysteria reigned supreme.  This is mainly due to the MFM who had been lying for decades about the dangers of a meltdown and how it would irradiate entire States. All that while showing reruns of radioactive Japanese monsters destroying Tokyo.

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:57 AM (YdQQY)

2 Noot is cutting Staff and replacing Manager.  He reminds me of the AR cornpone candidate from 2008.  Hey stupid, I voted for you in the SC Primary but it is time for you to drop out.

http://is.gd/OKCgV7

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:57 AM (YdQQY)

3 Spike Lee tweet of Zimmerman address incorrectly identifies wrong house of an elderly couple. They should sue him for every nickel he owns or will ever own.

http://is.gd/U7eVER

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)

4 Magic and Company buying the Dodgers for $2M.  They are getting gypped.

http://is.gd/q51Puh

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)

5 More evidence that the innocent angel was a thug.  There were early reports that he had a rap sheet full of charges for burglary, gang related activity, and violence but they all disappeared in a hurry as the MFM meme was established. Some of that evidence is starting to resurface in foreign papers. (via Drudge)

http://is.gd/IYFCnR

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)

6 Issa apologizes for calling commie scrunt a liar.   Why?

http://is.gd/oOcNJH

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:58 AM (YdQQY)

7 More details of the shooting of the hoodie thug.  Note that this report says Zimmerman was a "self-appointed" neighborhood watch.  This is not accurate. The captain of the watch stated Zimmerman had been appointed.  And yes, the networks, including Fox are still going with the he's an angel meme.  Imus showing cuts from the phony panel testimony yesterday like it was a real committee hearing.  

http://is.gd/bkVDy1

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:59 AM (YdQQY)

8 Arlen Sphincter talks about sexy Palin.  Talk about a creepy old shithead.  Get back in your box asshole.  

http://is.gd/whHWfw

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 02:59 AM (YdQQY)

9 Shelby caught in a fake photo scandal for the new Shelby 1000 Mustang with 950HP motor.  I don't care, I still want one.   And no, it is not fraud because it didn't cheat anyone out of money like the AGW fraud.

http://is.gd/FRMCoR

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

10 BB writer says Obamacare will go down 5-4.  I say too soon to be making any  kind of call. I agree it will be another 5-4, but there is no telling which way Kennedy will fall.  In fact, all the papers but one article in the Washington Post thought the Obamacare case went down in flames yesterday.

http://is.gd/FHosNo

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

11 Italy shows the UK how to deal with radical Muzzie clerics.  Hint: And it ain't buying them fancy digs to live in.

http://is.gd/8e1iYC

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

12 GOP getting better or are the Dems just getting more stupid.  Dems stick out a BS bill to raise taxes on oil companies as a political ploy to accuse Repubs of being against the "people" and in the pockets of big oil.  Instead Repubs allow it to go to the floor and they stick it up Dems ass.  The Dems thought their buddies in the MFM would cover for them.  Only the Washington Post lied for them.  The rest were mostly silent.   There are some lies that even newspaper propaganda sheets are not ready to go with.

http://is.gd/zyVDkO

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

13 That's it for the news this morning. I will be leaving for taking wifey to hospital this morning in a short time so will not be here until later this afternoon. You folks don't get too bloody today with the flame wars.


Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)

14

Vic,  I believe @4 should be $2B,  but they're still getting gypped.

 

As for the Mustang, "Dear Santa Claus, I've been a good Boy  this  year..."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:03 AM (d0Tfm)

15 Give Mrs. Vic our best. And stay strong. That porch rocker won't rock itself, you know.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:05 AM (d0Tfm)

16 Vic, I believe @4 should be $2B, but they're still getting gypped.
---------------------------------\


You're right, should be 2B, not 2M.  Big big gyp.

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:06 AM (YdQQY)

17

As for the Mustang, "Dear Santa Claus, I'll be a good Boy next year..."

Posted by: Nash Rambler at March 28, 2012 03:06 AM (b6FgX)

18 Just praying that Anthony Kennedy wants to serve up some revenge on SCOAMF. It would be nice if he just thought SCOAMF-care was the unmitigated tyrannical unconstitutional power grab that it so obviously is. Stay angry, my friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2012 03:06 AM (Af3Wg)

19 That porch rocker won't rock itself, you know.
----------------------------


LOL, with this nice weather that porch rocker has probably got too much attention lately.

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:08 AM (YdQQY)

20

"LOL, with this nice weather that porch rocker has probably got too much attention lately. "

 

Unpossible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:10 AM (d0Tfm)

21 There's another good story at Fox that I didn't link. It concerns the Democrat campaign treasurer for CA embezzling $7M from their funds.


I didn't link it because of the horrid photo and I didn't want to frighten the Morons this morning.

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:11 AM (YdQQY)

22 That's one of the things that scares me too, Gabe. Usually I am rational and pragmatic in my dealings, but my son was born with a serious disability. If anyone wants to get my blood boiling, and have me thinking thoughts of putting my hands around someone's throat, start talking about the practical benefits of treatment vs. costs to society. Inhuman, is what it is, and these are the people who control the D party.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2012 03:12 AM (Gc/Qi)

23 Lets not starting sucking our cocks just Yet boys, the real question is,is Kennedy Mad at Scalia this week? The more I hear about the supreme court It sound like High School with the same sorts Of cliques and petty squabbling. I wonder what buzzys burn book looks like?

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 03:14 AM (j0IcY)

24 Time to go folks. be back this afternoon

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 03:15 AM (YdQQY)

25 1 - For what it's worth, Vic, I don't know how long it was after the accident, but Saturday Night Live did a spoof of the movie "The China Syndrome" not long after Three Mile Island occurred. In it, somebody spilled a Coke on the control panel (it was called the Pepsi Syndrome, but they explained it didn't matter, Coke or Pepsi), causing the meltdown. Jimmy Carter, a nukular scientist, went in to check it out, and next thing you know he was a giant. So was the cleaning lady (played by Garrett Morris). They fell in love. These days, you'd never get a D president made fun of that way on SNL.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2012 03:19 AM (Gc/Qi)

26 #22  My feelings are the same.  What price do I put on the extra 14 years my mother got for 3 brain surgeries for a massive,  non-malignant tumor?    Or for the reconstructive surgeries for my daughter's cleft palate,  which allowed her to grow up to be a beautiful woman? 

This bureaucratic board (aka "death panel") is horrifying to me.  Unelectable and unanswerable to the public,  I can see that normal folks will be told "no" but well-connected political people will get all the treatment they want.  It will be like getting health care in the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 03:19 AM (GoIUi)

27 26 - This is why it's crucial we educate the political neophytes in this country! They aren't that far away from just accepting that's the way it is, and if the government says so, who are they to argue. They need to know, not only what is unacceptable government intrusion in their lives, by WHY it is unacceptable, and unfortunately our schools aren't doing that.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2012 03:23 AM (Gc/Qi)

28

Or fixing my son's club foot, his syndactily and the other birth defects he had...

 

The government has no business in   our business. This law needs to go down   in flames, taking the SCOAMF's hopes for reelection with it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:24 AM (d0Tfm)

29 @26 "..This bureaucratic board (aka "death panel") is horrifying to me. Unelectable and unanswerable to the public.." Sounds like the EPA or any number of agencies of the federal government. The GOP made a rather huge mistake, it seems they make these rather frequently, by not doing everything in their power to prevent this abomination from becoming law. Now our only hope is that a notoriously moody and fickle septuagenarian is not having a fucking petty drama with one of his colleagues!!!

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 03:27 AM (j0IcY)

30 Finally, I want to share with you a story from Sen. Johnson I did not know before talking with him yesterday. Johnson explained that he was particularly offended during the Obamacare debate when the President suggested that money-grubbing doctors would unnecessarily "come after your tonsils" or amputate a leg.




Damn!  I wish I had heard about that!  I could have achieved fame and fortune by starting an internet meme with it.  FML

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at March 28, 2012 03:29 AM (udEUT)

31 Watching that red headed kid on FOX makes me wonder if there isn't something to that ginger saying.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 03:29 AM (UpwlP)

32 And why is Kagan still in on this decision when it's well known she helped push that POS law down our throats?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:30 AM (d0Tfm)

33 I would think the Death Panels™ would be counter intuitive. Example: Catholic Bishop and convicted child-murderer vying for one heart transplant. Bishop guaranteed place in heaven, and the heart goes to..................... Murderer. Next.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 03:31 AM (8/nTx)

34 If anyone wants to get my blood boiling, and have me thinking thoughts of putting my hands around someone's throat, start talking about the practical benefits of treatment vs. costs to society. Socialism dehumanizes. We're constantly told what we're going to be given from socialized medicine, but they avoid what they're going to take away.

Posted by: nickless at March 28, 2012 03:32 AM (MMC8r)

35 #26  To refresh your memory,  not one GOP member voted for Obamacare.  Not one.  The democrats had to strongarm THEIR people. (Remember Bert Stupak and Ben Nelson?)

I don't know what you expected them to do.  They broke Senate procedure to vote on it.  We had people on every TV show talking about how bad it was; for gosh sakes,  there were people at town halls and out in the streets protesting!

So, exactly what other efforts do you think they should have made to stop it?  I thought they did well in putting up objections and fighting it given that they didn't have the numbers. 

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 03:34 AM (GoIUi)

36 I thought Joseph Cao caved and voted for it?

Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 03:35 AM (BUcLz)

37 You know, Miss Marple, rape victims could dress differently.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 03:36 AM (8/nTx)

38 #37  What is that supposed to mean?

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 03:37 AM (GoIUi)

39 #36  You might be right.  I would have to go back and check.  I think he might have voted on the initial thing that was sent to the Senate,  but when it came back he voted against it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 03:38 AM (GoIUi)

40 @35 They should have shutdown congress! Does anything, rules, laws, procedures, precedents, etc. stop the Dems from getting what they want? NO! And this is the kind of acquiescent bullshit the GOP does, no hill is worth planting the flag in. WHAT CAN I DO GODFATHER? YOU CAN BE A MAN!!!

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 03:38 AM (j0IcY)

41

Notice how the emphasis is   placed  on the expenditures that Washington will make in connection with health care costs as  the justification for controlling your life.

 

All of a sudden    they're worried about money...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:39 AM (d0Tfm)

42 @38. Sorry, I was being sarcastic about McLovin's blaming the republicans for not doing more about preventing being knocked down, tied down, and rammed up the bunghole with Obamacare. I will note my sarcasm from here on out.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 03:39 AM (8/nTx)

43 "healthcare is different."

Ok.  Maybe.

But not one person had the sense to argue that Obamacare is not about Health Care.  Obamacare forces you to buy an insurance product.  The insurers that you are forced to deal with are at least one or two steps removed from those who provide you with Health Care.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 28, 2012 03:40 AM (UTq/I)

44 This bureaucratic board (aka "death panel") is horrifying to me. Unelectable and unanswerable to the public, I can see that normal folks will be told "no" but well-connected political people will get all the treatment they want.

In February, I received a kidney transplant after waiting 4 years.  I was lucky.  UNOS, the organization that sets the rules for organ allocation, has been considering changing those rules.  They want to add a consideration that would match the age of the donor with the age of the recipient.  Their idea is that a young person could live longer than an older person with an organ from a young person.  I am 51.  I got a kidney from a 37yo.  Under those rules, I might have been considered too old for that organ.

Just imagine if those types of rules were enforced by the government.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 28, 2012 03:41 AM (Gkhxf)

45 #42  Sorry.  I am pretty foggy until I have had my second cup of coffee,  which I am now going to go get.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 03:41 AM (GoIUi)

46 Spike Lee should have accidentally given them my address.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 03:41 AM (UpwlP)

47 @42 You can be sarcastic all you want it doesn't change the fact that the Dems rammed their law down our throats the GOP didn't do enough to stop it and now we wait for what 9 people in black robes have to say about it.

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 03:42 AM (j0IcY)

48 After 2 cups you may have ripped my head off and pooped down my throat. SARCASM!!!!! ;^D

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 03:43 AM (8/nTx)

49

Things not to do in 2012:

Fly on an Airbus A380.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2012 03:43 AM (B+qrE)

50

We can only hope that today's subject of  severability gets a thorough examination. I'd love it if, in the Prog/Coms haste to get this bill passed, they screwed it up.

 

Sweet,  sweet lefty tears are the Nectar of the Gods.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:45 AM (d0Tfm)

51 #47  Shut down Congress.  Exactly how do you do that when you don't have the majority?  If everyone in the GOP walks out,  they take a vote with the people there.

Did you want them to hit Nancy Pelosi over the head and take hostages?  Please explain what action you wanted them to take.

I fail to see the rationale in blaming anyone but the democrats,  who are the ones who created the monstrosity, voted it in, and signed it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 03:45 AM (GoIUi)

52 And I guess they should spend 2 hours on whether or not the mandate can be separated out without destroying the entire law. But I can tell them in advance that common sense says if the madate goes, the entire law goes.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 03:47 AM (UpwlP)

53

Real world example of socialized medicine rationing:

 

Due to lack of bedspace, now in Canada they're starting to house drug rehab junkies and mentally ill lunatics in nursing homes.

 

So Grandma and Grandpa don't just have to worry about getting overly medicated, tied to their beds and neglected, now they get to catch a beatdown from an 18 year old drug offender.

 

But it's "free".

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 03:48 AM (JDIKC)

54 43 "healthcare is different."


No, you misheard me, I said healthcare is indifferent.  You'll see.

Posted by: Baraka Whitedance 2!012 at March 28, 2012 03:48 AM (udEUT)

55

OK, 'rons 'n 'ettes, I'm outta here. The   salt mine calleth.

 

Have fun and try not to trash the place,   'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 28, 2012 03:49 AM (d0Tfm)

56 I can't believe the eco-fascists are still doing this shit.

Earth Hour Approaches: Be Prepared
http://t.co/51dLTLom

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 28, 2012 03:50 AM (hO8IJ)

57 Sarcasm is frowned upon here at AoS.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 03:50 AM (YO+5B)

58 >>Exactly how do you do that when you don't have the majority?

How many do you need for a quorum?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 28, 2012 03:51 AM (hO8IJ)

59 Morning all. I don't hold out any hope for the Supremes to do the right thing, despite how the arguments are going. Been burnt before, too cynical now. More heads found in Nuevo Laredo yesterday. No coverage of course. The Mexican press is too scared and our south Texas press too in the crapper. One thing to relate on the Obamacare stuff about the "bad doctors". My husband is a late in life doc (didn't get started till 36, after years as a EE) and he sure as hell didn't do it for all the $$ since we wiped out every savings accounts and retired fund we had for it. One day he came home (after getting out of med school and residency and into private practice) and related how he passed an old man on a gurney in the hospital who was waiting to go into the OR. The poor guy had shit himself and couldn't do anything about it. None of the fat ass nurses in this county hospital would take care of cleaning him up. (Sorry nurses you get a black eye on this one) Heavy union rules, you know?? Anyway, my hubby cleaned the guy up, talked to him and made sure he was treated with the respect he should have had all along. Tore a new hole on the nursing supervisor, etc. Some docs are cold hearted bastards to be sure but most do their jobs to serve people. Sure they get paid big bucks but as in my hubby's case, he is the guy who makes sure you wake up, and don't remember your surgery. I would pay any amount for that!

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at March 28, 2012 03:51 AM (rtvsq)

60 UH, the republicans could have stopped a lot of things the past two years. They could have stood firm on the budget and let the dems shut the government down. But thats too ballsy for a republican.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 03:51 AM (UpwlP)

61 53 Real world example of socialized medicine rationing: Due to lack of bedspace, now in Canada they're starting to house drug rehab junkies and mentally ill lunatics in nursing homes. So Grandma and Grandpa don't just have to worry about getting overly medicated, tied to their beds and neglected, now they get to catch a beatdown from an 18 year old drug offender. But it's "free". Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 07:48 AM (JDIKC) You act as though Granny and Gramps are somehow more "worthy" than drug offenders! I'm outrageously outraged.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 03:51 AM (niZvt)

62 @51 Yeah I guess the Republicans were powerless, they had no recourse to do anything about it. Sucks to be the GOP then.

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 03:51 AM (j0IcY)

63 You know what else is frowned upon? Airline pilots going crazy in midflight.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 03:52 AM (8dspl)

64 So, exactly what other efforts do you think they should have made to stop it? I thought they did well in putting up objections and fighting it given that they didn't have the numbers.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 07:34AM (GoIUi) 



It's easy to pretend you're against something when you don't have the numbers to stop it. If they were serious they would have refused to raise the debt limit unless Obamacare was repealed.

Posted by: schizoid at March 28, 2012 03:52 AM (sxkY6)

65 Snowe (or was it twin) voted it out of committee in the Senate when it could've died there.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 28, 2012 03:53 AM (7+pP9)

66 Republicans could have reduced the WH budget to a parks worker and a secretary for the president - if they wanted to, since they control the WH budget. Could have cut it from 5 billion/yr (wild guess) to 50,000 a year. And if the seante and president didn't sign it, they get the alternative amount of ZERO.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 03:54 AM (UpwlP)

67 @9, O I think Shelby has more on his mind right now than photoshop:
http://tinyurl.com/3pgtbnq

He is a heart transplant recipient. So this is all, you know, about Cheney.

Posted by: comatus at March 28, 2012 03:56 AM (ZOlM3)

68

It's easy to pretend you're against something when you don't have the numbers to stop it. If they were serious they would have refused to raise the debt limit unless Obamacare was repealed.<<<

 

That wasn't the hill to die on. We were keeping our powder dry. We were saving nine with a stich in time. Making sure we had closed the cover before striking.

 

And various other mealy mouthed excuses for not having any balls.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 03:56 AM (JDIKC)

69 We all could have strapped on our AK's, ammo belts slung over both shoulders, grenades, slingshots, Chinese throwing stars, sword canes, pepper spray, paint guns, paintball guns, and stormed the Capitol and shot everyone. Where were we? NOT SARCASM!!!

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 03:57 AM (8/nTx)

70 MSNBC keeps vacillating between despondency and sweet, sweet delusions that because Romney is "deeply unpopular in the South," Obama will win reelection by winning over all those redneck crackers to vote for a socialist black nationalist with muslim roots after three years of economic disaster in between all their lynching, raping, and drinking (but mostly raping). Yeah, that sounds like a very likely scenario, alright.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 03:58 AM (niZvt)

71 The Republicans couldve done more. For instance, if you say youll read the bill on the floor, read the bill. Also, if you say youll investigate Landrieau's shady deal, do it.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 03:59 AM (Ba6aP)

72 Funemployment no longer 99-wk vacation:

Unemployed will have work-search records checked
http://t.co/sBr99ltX

Of course, it says "most." Would love to know who gets excepted.  (Have my suspicions....)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 28, 2012 04:00 AM (hO8IJ)

73 63 You know what else is frowned upon? Airline pilots going crazy in midflight. Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 07:52 AM (8dspl) Didn't Alec Baldwin play one on TV?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 04:01 AM (niZvt)

74 And I am really sick of the assholes that keep saying, What can we do, what can we do? YOU DO EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO DO!! How the fuck do you think Obama became a Senator? His team got a friendly judge to unseal sealed divorce records. What was the GOP's response? ALAN FUCKING KEYES BABY!! THE GOP IS FUCKING PATHETIC. The TEA PARTY movement gives them the majority with pretty clear mandates and what does the GOP do? The co-opt and marginalize them! FUCK THE GOP! Fucking piussies!!!

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:02 AM (j0IcY)

75


If the court allows Obamacare to stand, I would suggest that civil disobedience could follow.  Men with children denied care would become hyperactive, and armed confrontation could easily become the norm.

 

Liberals are playing with fire and have no understanding of the consequence.  When Admiral Yamamoto said, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”  That accurately describes a nation that denies its most vulnerable adequate care.  The giant will seek retribution with sure and swift justice.


Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 28, 2012 04:03 AM (TkGkA)

76 I'm dying to find out the pilot's exact remarks regarding Iraq and Iran. Something tells me that he's a lefty.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 04:03 AM (KUrJA)

77 FUCK THE GOP! Fucking piussies!!!

Plus eleventy

Posted by: Beto at March 28, 2012 04:03 AM (ZEHhD)

78
Unsure of what happened with that post.  Sorry folks.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 28, 2012 04:03 AM (TkGkA)

79 You seem to be on the fence on this one McLovin.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 04:04 AM (8/nTx)

80 The Republicans couldve done more. For instance, if you say youll read the bill on the floor, read the bill.

Also, if you say youll investigate Landrieau's shady deal, do it.





You just can't trust some people to do what the say!  It just goes to show you how the whole system needs to be torn down and replaced with the glorious peoples new collective!   ...  Um, er,  I mean you cant trust some people.

Posted by: Baraka Fork tongue at March 28, 2012 04:05 AM (udEUT)

81 >>Men  with children denied care would become hyperactive, and armed confrontation could easily become the norm.

Wasn't that a Denzel movie?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 28, 2012 04:05 AM (hO8IJ)

82 Doctor Fish:  There was some formatting in the stuff you pasted from a website.  Try pasting into Notepad, then re-copying before pasting into here.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 28, 2012 04:06 AM (hO8IJ)

83

Obamacare needs to be declared unconstitutional, but then the debate beginsÂ…

 

As a huge supporter of Death Panels, government-run single payer catastrophic healthcare, individual non-catastrophic health savings accounts and a direct fee-for-service model between patients and providers, I welcome the argument.

Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2012 04:06 AM (FdndL)

84 In case you havent heard: Uncle Ubungo avoids prison time for DUI crash. He has to "stay out of trouble" and he loses his illegal drivers license... for one month.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 04:06 AM (8dspl)

85

I can't cut the Repubs any slack on 0bamacare.  Yes they were outnumbered when 0bamacare passed initially, but once granted power in the House, due in no small part to the reaction from 0bmamcare (thanks TEA party), they squandered their integrity (lead by Boner and supported by Bitch) and refused to use the Constitutionally granted power of the purse to control any aspect of the prog agenda (let alone 0bamacare).  They couldn't even muster up the balls to repeal the light bulb ban.


Torches, pitchforks, tar, and feathers are far too good for them.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:06 AM (i3+c5)

86 If there is one thing a pol fears it's being thrown off the gravey-train they are riding on.  Thus, Obammy-Care got passed.  (without being read, btw)

Posted by: Case at March 28, 2012 04:07 AM (6ffrc)

87 Deportation? Of course not! Racist.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 28, 2012 04:07 AM (dVBif)

88

I don't think you can hang Alan Keyes on "The Establishment."

 

He's a fucking nutbar like Ronulus Prime who serves no one but his selfish interests.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 28, 2012 04:07 AM (JDIKC)

89 83 Obamacare needs to be declared unconstitutional, but then the debate beginsÂ… As a huge supporter of Death Panels, government-run single payer catastrophic healthcare, individual non-catastrophic health savings accounts and a direct fee-for-service model between patients and providers, I welcome the argument. Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2012 08:06 AM (FdndL) Tht's fine, but be sure to make your appointment to comment. Three month long waiting list...

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 04:08 AM (niZvt)

90 @79 I'm just tired of the unrelenting shift leftward. All the GOP does is slow it down, it never stops moving leftward. At some point the country is going to break, and I just don't feel the GOP gets that. Some do. I mean look at what people in our own party are doing to Paul Ryan, it''s fucking disgusting.

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:08 AM (j0IcY)

91
here was some formatting in the stuff you pasted from a website. Try pasting into Notepad, then re-copying before pasting into here.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 28, 2012 08:06 AM (hO8IJ)

I cut and pasted the Yamamoto quote to Word, and then retyped it.  I thought by deleting the original it erased all goop, but that is apparently not correct. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 28, 2012 04:09 AM (TkGkA)

92 Jedi mind tricks. Yes, that's the ticket

Posted by: Darth The Plumber at March 28, 2012 04:09 AM (ZEHhD)

93 ALL THESE BLOGS ARE YOURS EXCEPT ACE OF SPADES HQ.  ATTEMPT NO FORMATTING THERE.

Posted by: Pixy Misalith at March 28, 2012 04:10 AM (JDIKC)

94 Doctor Fish--yeah, when you delete the text it doesn't delete the formatting. Sometimes you have to click the icon in the edit window that looks like  <> and manually delete all the stuff in brackets.


I miss italics.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 28, 2012 04:11 AM (hO8IJ)

95 91 If you click on the view/edit source <> on the toolbar it lets you see all that formatting, erase it and save.

Posted by: Beto at March 28, 2012 04:11 AM (ZEHhD)

96 58% chance of defeat...INTRADE!!

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 04:12 AM (8ieXv)

97 @90. I get that. There are 300 million of us and under 1000 of them. The military will not obey FROTUS's order to shoot us. Bike trip?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 04:12 AM (8/nTx)

98

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 08:08 AM (niZvt)



Dear Sir/Madam/other

your comment time before the independent comment advisory board on why you don't support Obmamcare  has been scheduled from 0301 to 0302 in our star chamber on the twelfth of Never.


Regards

Uncle Ubongo

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:12 AM (i3+c5)

99 Kennedy does seem to have moved somewhat to the right since Sandra Day O'Connor retired, for whatever reason. He was very good on the two recent Second Amendment cases (Heller and McDonald). However, this is also the same guy who was the crucial fifth vote on that horrible, horrible Kelo property confiscation case, so conservatives and libertarians are completely right to view him with suspicion.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 04:13 AM (wG0z7)

100
Well...my formatting fail happened because the lesbo Elena Kagan gave me a case of stink eye.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 28, 2012 04:13 AM (TkGkA)

101 @85 Let's wrap our heads around that one for a minute. The GOP allowed the Dems to outlaw a fucking lightbulb. And now we have a replacement that costs 50x more and uses more resources to produce. All to save .02 per kw-h. I WANT TO BREAK THINGS!!!!

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:13 AM (j0IcY)

102 Attorney General Holder, advancing the New Black Panther gun toting revolution while prosecuting religious zealots fearing the biblical Antichrist's forces of Satan.

No discrepancy.  None at all...

Mich. militia members cleared of charges that accused them of plotting war against government (AP) WaPo:

"U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts said the Hutaree militia membersÂ’ expressed hatred of law enforcement didnÂ’t amount to a conspiracy to rebel against the government, gutting Attorney General Holder's case against seven members of the Michigan organizatioin, dismissing the most serious charges in an extraordinary defeat for federal authorities who insisted they had captured homegrown rural extremists poised for war."

“It’s hard to believe it’s over,” said Tina Stone, crying as she spoke by phone. “Thank God we live in a country where we do have freedom of speech.”





Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 04:15 AM (lpWVn)

103

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 08:13 AM (wG0z7)


Anyone with an unaccountable lifetime sinecure that lives in DC or its environs should be viewed with suspicion.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:15 AM (i3+c5)

104 Italics work if you use square brackets (just left of the \ key on your keyboard) around the i and /i 

Posted by: Beto at March 28, 2012 04:15 AM (ZEHhD)

105

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 08:13 AM (j0IcY)



Wait until you see what we wind up driving (on the days when we are allowed to drive).

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:16 AM (i3+c5)

106 It might just be me but the Dems/Libs/Maniacs fight on all fronts, fight every battle both large and small, 24x7x365. Why the hell can't our side be bothered to even match them 50%

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:16 AM (j0IcY)

107 “It’s hard to believe it’s over,” said Tina Stone, crying as she spoke by phone. “Thank God we live in a country where we do have freedom of speech.” You're not from around here, are you?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 04:17 AM (8/nTx)

108 93 ALL THESE BLOGS ARE YOURS EXCEPT ACE OF SPADES HQ. ATTEMPT NO FORMATTING THERE. Posted by: Pixy Misalith at March 28, 2012 08:10 AM (JDIKC) Pixy is a "2010" fan. Explains a lot.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 04:17 AM (niZvt)

109 close, damn italicans!

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 28, 2012 04:17 AM (niZvt)

110 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 04:18 AM (8y9MW)

111 They couldn't even muster up the balls to repeal the light bulb ban.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 08:06 AM (i3+c5)


But they sure did a good job of pretending to repeal it, didn't they? Lots of people  think that it was repealed and haven't bothered to check store shelves. The GOP might be able to ride this bit of bullshit all the way to the election.

Posted by: schizoid at March 28, 2012 04:19 AM (sxkY6)

112 Also, it's really scary that the future of crucial and fundamental Constitutional issues (about enumerated powers, the First, Second, and Tenth Amendments, etc.) rely pretty much entirely on what side of the bed Anthony Kennedy woke up on the day of oral arguments. This is the fragility of the "conservative majority" it's taken us 30+ years to build in the SCOTUS. And all of that could be reversed in the next few years if SCOAMF wins a second term. Which is why the "true conservatives" who claim they'll stay home on Election Day if Romney is the nominee piss me the FUCK off.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 04:20 AM (wG0z7)

113 Elena Kagan inserts big titty in big baby's mouth."Which is true because X,Y,Z" -- nothing like the professor answering the exam questions for the dumbfounded student. But then, isn't that how Obama, for example, managed matriculation?

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 04:20 AM (lpWVn)

114 The GOP is allowing the EPA to put in place regulations that will cause coal plants to shutdown. Why isn't every Republican representative not going apeshit over this?

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:20 AM (j0IcY)

115

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 08:16 AM (j0IcY)


I used to think it was because most of "us" conservatives were too busy working and raising families, and the left had no other life except to destroy what others had built.  I would like to see some of the same level of fanaticism (24x7x365) on our side on every issue that threatens freedom, but I am not holding my breath (especially after watching Boner and Cantor screw the pooch in the House where they actually have power).

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:21 AM (i3+c5)

116 103 Hrothgar True dat.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 04:22 AM (wG0z7)

117
I cut and pasted the Yamamoto quote to Word...

Word and Wordpad copy all the hidden HTML formatting junk. MS Notepad strips it out. You can also check if you have hidden formatting junk before posting by using the View/Edit Source tool (< > at the far right end of the post box toolbar.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 28, 2012 04:22 AM (7+pP9)

118 Posted by: Beto at March 28, 2012 08:15 AM (ZEHhD)

Burning incense and reading the auguries will also help.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 28, 2012 04:24 AM (nEUpB)

119
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 28, 2012 08:22 AM (7+pP9)

Thanks.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 28, 2012 04:24 AM (TkGkA)

120 @115 To give an example, the most dangerous place in the world is to be between Chuck Schumer and a camera when he wants to push an agenda. He would shiv his own mother if it helped advance a policy he was advocating.

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:24 AM (j0IcY)

121 So, exactly what other efforts do you think they should have made to stop it? I thought they did well in putting up objections and fighting it given that they didn't have the numbers.

Oh, I don't know- not let it pass out of committee?  Commit to having it read, on the floor, word-for-word?  After withholding unanimous consent, not allowing an amendment to be withdrawn (which was against the rules, so they could have objected).  File their own hundred+ page "amendments" (yes, they'd go down in flames) and then require that those be read on the Senate/House Floor?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 04:25 AM (8y9MW)

122 @101, the solution obviously is to elect moderate Republicans we think appeal to independents. And to keep our powder dry for the important fights. You know, where the Democrats do something so unpopular we'd win anyway. And keep our eye on the prize - lowering the debt. All social issues need to be put on the back burner while we slow the rate of increase of the deficit and make nonbinding procedure changes.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 28, 2012 04:25 AM (42CLh)

123
Which is why the "true conservatives" who claim they'll stay home on Election Day if Romney is the nominee piss me the FUCK off.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 08:20 AM (wG0z7)


A vote for Romney is also a vote for a never ending line up of Doles, McCains, Grahams, Snowes, etc.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 28, 2012 04:26 AM (7+pP9)

124 Damn.  Just watched that feelgood video on the sidebar.  Now where is the my dang tissue box?
.

Posted by: jjmurphy at March 28, 2012 04:26 AM (xjEAl)

125 My working theory is the Democratic party exists to promote the leftist agenda, and the Republican party exists to soak up and neutralize all opposition to that agenda. I would love for someone to prove me wrong.

Posted by: schizoid at March 28, 2012 04:28 AM (sxkY6)

126

Question on Obamacare for the legal types:

 

How can health insurance be considered interstate commerce when we don't allow the purchase of health insurance across state lines?

Posted by: mugiwara at March 28, 2012 04:28 AM (W7ffl)

127

Good morning, all!

 

So, did anyone else have their gas prices jump up massively overnight?  Mine went from $3.71 yesterday afternoon to $3.87 this morning.  $0.16 in one night is a bit extreme for my neck of the woods!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 28, 2012 04:28 AM (4df7R)

128 New on FOX:  The Trumps - Father-Daughter politics:  Yes, she is also a stupid scrunt.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at March 28, 2012 04:28 AM (udEUT)

129 Why the hell can't our side be bothered to even match them 50%

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 08:16 AM (j0IcY)

**

Cuz we are too busy producing and taking care of our own. We have lives.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 04:29 AM (8ieXv)

130 The GOP allowed the Dems to outlaw a fucking
lightbulb.


Actually, the GOP didn't "allow" they helped.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 04:29 AM (8y9MW)

131

This is what I would like to have seen concerning Obamacare and congress.

youtube.com/ watch?v=U3DHKnilmu8 (remove the space after the backslash).

 

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 28, 2012 04:30 AM (O/onO)

132 Which is why the "true conservatives" who claim they'll stay home on Election Day if Romney is the nominee piss me the FUCK off. Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 08:20 AM (wG0z7) I don't think that's the case. I think in some instances, anecdotally, sure. But there is a tremendous difference between 2008 and today. We KNOW through bitter experience who the candidate really is. He should have scared the shit out of all of us last time around with what was exposed, but I think a majority of us know the fate of the nation hangs in the balance. I do not like or support Romney. But you better believe come election day if he is the nominee, I will pull that lever so fucking hard for him the machine will go through the damned floor.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2012 04:31 AM (Af3Wg)

133 128 New on FOX: The Trumps - Father-Daughter politics: Yes, she is also a stupid scrunt.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at March 28, 2012 08:28 AM (udEUT)

*

Yes, but she has the hottest body money can buy so its all good.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 04:33 AM (8ieXv)

134 125 My working theory is the Democratic party exists to promote the leftist agenda, and the Republican party exists to soak up and neutralize all opposition to that agenda. I would love for someone to prove me wrong. Posted by: schizoid at March 28, 2012 08:28 AM (sxkY6) Well, it certainly looks and feels that way. Dems - over the cliff in a Maserati Reps - over the cliff in a Model T Different speeds, but the same destination. That is the reality of the establishment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2012 04:34 AM (Af3Wg)

135 Any hill is fine by me; bitchez.

Posted by: SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 04:34 AM (udEUT)

136 123 Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 28, 2012 08:26 AM Goddamnit, and don't you realize the difference between THAT and what the SCOAMF could accomplish if given a second term? (Especially if the Dems win the Senate, as well). Look: Anthony Kennedy and Antonin Scalia are both 76 right now and will turn 80 before the 2016 elections. (Average life expectancy for an American male is 76). Clarence Thomas is in his 60s, but, to be brutally frank, African-American men have, in general, shorter life expectancies than whites. John Roberts is in his 50s, but has had well-publicized health scares already. At the risk of sounding morbid, the next president might easily have the opportunity to replace 3-4 members of the current "conservative majority." Replace them with people in the mold of Kagan and Sotomayor. This would shift the court to the hard-left for the next 20-30 years at least. And, frankly, it's not even worth looking past that horizon, because if the leftists seize judicial control of this country, it's GAME OVER for freedom as we know it. Forever. Do you really think there's no difference in the sort of nominees Romney would send before the Senate? The head spins.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 04:34 AM (wG0z7)

137

My concern is that Justice Kennedy might just find an extraordinary justification for the individual mandate

 

 

Mine too.  Remember Sandra O'Connor found an ectraordinary justification for the government stealing people' s property in Kelo.

 

Moderates are moderates because they don't have strong underlying principles.

Posted by: Truman North at March 28, 2012 04:36 AM (I2LwF)

138 Do you really think there's no difference in the sort of nominees Romney would send before the Senate?

That's a good question.

What sort of nominees did he send before the MA Senate when he was appointing justices to the MASC?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 04:36 AM (8y9MW)

139

136 Clarence Thomas is in his 60s, but, to be brutally frank, African-American men have, in general, shorter life expectancies than whites.

------

Thomas has been talking about quitting. Say's he'd make just as much on the Supreme Court in retirement than he would working.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 04:36 AM (UpwlP)

140 @129

See we have these things called REP-REE-ZEN-TA-TIVS.

They are supposed to act as an AD-VO-KIT for us!

Our side doesn't do this nearly as effectively as the other side!

And in a lot of cases are not on our side! (Spectre, Maine,Snowe, Grahm, McCain,etc)


Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:36 AM (j0IcY)

141 Thomas has been talking about quitting. Say's he'd make just as much on the Supreme Court in retirement than he would working. Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 08:36 AM (UpwlP) Well, if he's talking about retiring, frankly I don't blame him. Twenty+ years of being a focus of liberal hate and getting called an Uncle Tom for standing up for conservative principals would wear on anyone.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 04:40 AM (wG0z7)

142 ObamaCare is pretty much evil incarnate.  It must be defeated, repealed, destroyed, or we as a nation are finished.  And on this planet, there's nowhere left to go.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2012 04:41 AM (i0App)

143 18 Just praying that Anthony Kennedy wants to serve up some revenge on SCOAMF.   Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2012 07:06 AM (Af3Wg)




What happened that had Kennedy in a snit with SCOAMF?

Sorry, have had my nose in the books these past weeks and days

Posted by: kawfytawk at March 28, 2012 04:42 AM (VIm97)

144 My working theory is the Democratic party exists to promote the leftist agenda, and the Republican party exists to soak up and neutralize all opposition to that agenda. I would love for someone to prove me wrong.

I'm 66 years old.  I've been watching this seriously for over 40 years.

The Federal government has only gotten more intrusive in that time.  The only advances in conservatism have come from the States, i.e., Firearms Carry, and little of that.

Government is the enemy, and the larger the government, the larger the enemy.

Posted by: minuteman (formerly trainer) until Juggy is gone at March 28, 2012 04:42 AM (Rojyk)

145 We want Romneycare   no wait a minute

Posted by: akak at March 28, 2012 04:42 AM (vfQBi)

146 When you advocate for liberals you go to Washington and say "I want free healthcare, I want 200 weeks unemployment, I want no taxes for my poor people, I want the wealthy to pay 90%" What do you advocate FOR for conservatives?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 04:43 AM (8/nTx)

147 How can health insurance be considered interstate commerce when we don't allow the purchase of health insurance across state lines?

Posted by: mugiwara at March 28, 2012 08:28 AM (W7ffl)

Because shut up that's why.

Posted by: Your betters in Congress-D at March 28, 2012 04:44 AM (3jGS1)

148 Q: If Zimmerman is a white hispanic, what does that make Obama?

A: A piece of shit.

Posted by: Elly Light at March 28, 2012 04:45 AM (OUSCS)

149

139 136 Clarence Thomas is in his 60s, but, to be brutally frank, African-American men have, in general, shorter life expectancies than whites.

 

I'm convinced it's the superior tasting food. I'd also like to see if their lifespan is shorter if it were corrected for smoking, hood violence, and not working out

Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 28, 2012 04:45 AM (CMM9V)

150 I mean look at what people in our own party are doing to Paul Ryan, it''s fucking disgusting. Ryan is why we are doomed. Because his super extreme radical draconian budget addresses only 40% of the problem, and it is super extreme radical draconian. The problem is that we cannot stomach even that weak tea.

Posted by: Blaster at March 28, 2012 04:45 AM (Fw2Gg)

151 40 @35 They should have shutdown congress! Does anything, rules, laws, procedures, precedents, etc. stop the Dems from getting what they want? NO! And this is the kind of acquiescent bullshit the GOP does, no hill is worth planting the flag in. WHAT CAN I DO GODFATHER? YOU CAN BE A MAN!!! ----------- This was where you cd really appreciate the actual GENIUS of Newt as a minority legislator. Man wd have had Dems themselves lynching Obama on the White House lawn and THEN running out to unanimously vote down Obamacare. If it got outta committee at all.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at March 28, 2012 04:45 AM (IojUD)

152 85
I can't cut the Repubs any slack on 0bamacare. Yes they were outnumbered when 0bamacare passed initially, but once granted power in the House, due in no small part to the reaction from 0bmamcare (thanks TEA party), they squandered their integrity (lead by Boner and supported by Bitch) and refused to use the Constitutionally granted power of the purse to control any aspect of the prog agenda (let alone 0bamacare). They couldn't even muster up the balls to repeal the light bulb ban.


Torches, pitchforks, tar, and feathers are far too good for them.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 08:06 AM (i3+c5)

 

 

I wrote that post on the second anniversary.  People quibbled.  I'm ready to burn the motherfucker down.  Politically.

Posted by: Truman North at March 28, 2012 04:45 AM (I2LwF)

153 How can health insurance be considered interstate commerce when we don't allow the purchase of health insurance across state lines?

Posted by: mugiwara at March 28, 2012 08:28 AM (W7ffl)


Because, like an emanation of a penumbra, you might decide to cross state lines to seek treatment at the Mayo Clinic and expect to have your "state" regulated insurance pay for it.  Presto, interstate "cost-sharing".


I agree, this is one of the many conundra associated with 0care.  Levi

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:45 AM (i3+c5)

154 What do you advocate FOR for conservatives?

How about saying, "Why is a middle aged dude in Topeka, who is trying to put his kids through college, on the hook for the health insurance of some 20-something ne'r-do-well in Seattle?"  Or even just, "No- that's not the business of the Federal Government.  Stop it."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 04:46 AM (8y9MW)

155 Dems - over the cliff in a Maserati
Reps - over the cliff in a Model T

Different speeds, but the same destination. That is the reality of the establishment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 28, 2012 08:34 AM (Af3Wg)
 



I'd say the car's already over the cliff and freefalling to the ground below.

Dems - stomping on the gas, wondering why the car won't go any faster
Reps - working on a ten year plan to tap the brake

Posted by: schizoid at March 28, 2012 04:46 AM (sxkY6)

156 I would say its the most important case since McDonald vs Chicago.

Posted by: clueless barry at March 28, 2012 04:46 AM (y0VOX)

157 @146

JUST SAY NO!

I really like the Party of NO!

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 04:46 AM (j0IcY)

158 OT: the enlightened supporters of TrayVonnage, Tragically Murdered Urban Poet, broadcast the supposed address of Zimmerman via Twitter to all and sundry.

Only it wasn't his address. It was the address of a retired couple in their mid-70s, who are terrified of what may happen to them now that the howling mob of racial profilers has been directed their way.

All this is the handiwork of Marcus Davonne Higgins, a 33-year-old Los Angeles genius, who first twittered the info, and Spike Lee, hack filmmaker, who retwittered it.

Link to story in my nickname, below.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 28, 2012 04:47 AM (lce0m)

159

Posted by: minuteman (formerly trainer) until Juggy is gone at March 28, 2012 08:42 AM (Rojyk)

 

Scots-Irish?

Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 28, 2012 04:48 AM (CMM9V)

160 Spike Lee tweet of Zimmerman address incorrectly identifies wrong house of an elderly couple. They should sue him for every nickel he owns or will ever own.

http://is.gd/U7eVER

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 06:58 AM (YdQQY)



I agree. They should sue him out of existence

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 04:49 AM (1Jaio)

161 @154. My point exactly. True Conservatives don't want anything from government. So our representatives should be going to D.C. to end their jobs as they know it - a la Rick Perry. I'm seceding my property from the Union. They'll never pave my road. So no big loss.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 04:50 AM (8/nTx)

162

158 OT: the enlightened supporters of TrayVonnage, Tragically Murdered Urban Poet, broadcast the supposed address of Zimmerman via Twitter to all and sundry.

Only it wasn't his address. It was the address of a retired couple in their mid-70s, who are terrified of what may happen to them now that the howling mob of racial profilers has been directed their way.

All this is the handiwork of Marcus Davonne Higgins, a 33-year-old Los Angeles genius, who first twittered the info, and Spike Lee, hack filmmaker, who retwittered it.

Link to story in my nickname, below.

--------

 

Mid 70's is the age I HOPE a marxist mob will show up outside my house with pitch forks. Jesus, if you're reading this, please send me a mob of dumb shits to my house with pitch forks when I'm 70. I don't ask for much but if you coukd do this one thing...

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 04:52 AM (UpwlP)

163 lol jimmah

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 04:54 AM (Ho2rs)

164 What did Ginsburg ask?

Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2012 04:55 AM (EBBBm)

165

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 08:46 AM (8y9MW)


You and I can appreciate that argument, but those who are over-grazing their sheep on the "free" commons see it as "There they go again, tryin' to take my free stuff!"



All problems have a solution, but the fundamental and universal problem is that most solutions come with more problems than they solve!  The goal should not be Utopian, but rather the minimalist solution that achieves the most reasonable results.  

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:55 AM (i3+c5)

166 What happened that had Kennedy in a snit with SCOAMF? Sorry, have had my nose in the books these past weeks and days Posted by: kawfytawk at March 28, 2012 08:42 AM (VIm97) SCOAMF called Kennedy out (along with the rest of the Supremes) at his State of the Union speech a couple of years ago. Pretty much publicly insulted and humiliated a separate and co-equal branch of government that he would later rely upon to uphold his signature initiative. Wonder how that's working out for him? Heh.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 04:55 AM (wG0z7)

167 162 Imagine having a piece of brick wall that would slowly open to reveal the cannon...................sigh

Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 28, 2012 04:55 AM (CMM9V)

168

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - More than two-thirds of Americans disapprove of the way President Barack Obama is handling high gasoline prices, although most do not blame him for them, according to a Reuters/Ipsos online poll released on Tuesday.

Sixty-eight percent disapprove and 24 percent approve of how Obama is responding to price increases that have become one of the biggest issues in the 2012 presidential campaign.


How dumb or indoctrinated are the 24%?


"Obama is getting heat for it but people aren't necessarily blaming him for it," said Chris Jackson, research director for Ipsos public affairs.

"People are unhappy that they are having to pay $3.90 a gallon. They want somebody to be able to lash out at and the president is as good a person as anybody," Jackson said.


Oh so people are irrationally blaming Barry. Imagine the results if this douche doing the poll wasn't so in the bag for Barry


Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 04:56 AM (1Jaio)

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 04:57 AM (i3+c5)

170 closing tags is hard

Posted by: Truman North at March 28, 2012 04:57 AM (I2LwF)

171 166 I think he called out Alito. Kennedy must have voted with the conservatives on that decision though. It was the "are corporations people" decision that Obama and the OWS crowd can't grasp. They still think corporations are like the stay-puff marshmallow man.

Posted by: dagny loved andrew at March 28, 2012 04:57 AM (CMM9V)

172 So: Gas hovering @ around $3.90 here in the DFW Metroplex, as of this morning.  The EPA has decided to regulate coal power out of existence.  Keystone XL not going forward (well, not the part that matters).  We can't build nuke plants.  Wind and solar are not viable.  We're not allowed to build hydro-electric plants.  I'm guessing NatGas will be next.

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Iran thumbing their noses at us, while we refuse to support Israel.  We're kowtowing to Pakistan while we've committed to not committing to winning in Afghanistan.  China and Russia are, once again, seeing opportunities for ascendency, while President Gumby just wants them to wait until he has "more flexability."

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

AZ gets sued in Federal Court- by the US DoJ- for attempting to clamp down (in accordance with Federal Law, no less) on illegal immigration, while CA is coddled while allowing (in contempt of Federal Law) "sanctuary cities."  President "What Illegal Aliens?" uses his privilege as President to assist his family in staying here illegally.  Texas and other states are prevented from redistricting.  Texas is told we can't have voter ID (It's somehow racist), while James O'Keefe III proves how easy it is to commit voter fraud.

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

I'm not voting for Mitt Romney in November.  But I might just be persuaded to vote against Barack Obama- who is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 04:57 AM (8y9MW)

173

Kennedy: OK, I'll go along with this but I'm going to need you to tell me that you're only going to put in the tip.

 

Obama: I'm only going to put in the tip.

 

Kennedy: Good enough for me.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 28, 2012 04:58 AM (JxMoP)

174 #66  They couldn't reduce the budget until they got the majority,  which was AFTER Obamacare was passed.

And #64,  yes,  they could have done that.   But exactly how do you think that would have gotten the bill repealed?  Even if you could have stopped the press from demonizing the GOP and scaring everyone with how the debt limit was going to destroy the economy if it wasn't raised,  you would have had to get it past the Senate and the potential for a filibuster,  and then you would have had to get Obama to sign the repeal,  which he wouldn't.

A lot of you are overestimating the powers that the GOP had before 2010,  and are certainly not comprehending how difficult it is to get the Senate to pass anything Harry Reid doesn't like.  And I am positive Obama will not sign a repeal.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 04:59 AM (GoIUi)

175 This Senator Johnson, the doc who was so offended by the SCOAMT's leg-amputation-for-profit story, was interviewed on Fox yesterday. He described complacent conservatives as suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

Posted by: Justamom at March 28, 2012 05:00 AM (Sptt8)

176 I'm not voting for Mitt Romney in November. But I might just be persuaded to vote against Barack Obama- who is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant. Hey! I did that with McCain! Question: Why didn't Morgan Freeman play the president in Hunger Games?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 05:00 AM (8/nTx)

177

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 08:56 AM (1Jaio)


Why do none of the interviewers ever ask:  


Assume that the presidunce cannot directly lower gas prices (world markets, speculators, blah, blah, then


"Tell me how increased supply created by on- and off-shore drilling in teh US, XL pipeline, frakking, etc., will INCREASE gas prices?" 

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2012 05:00 AM (i3+c5)

178 Mid 70's is the age I HOPE a marxist mob will show up outside my house with pitch forks. Jesus, if you're reading this, please send me a mob of dumb shits to my house with pitch forks when I'm 70. I don't ask for much but if you coukd do this one thing...

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 08:52 AM (UpwlP)

*

Shhhhh.....Jimmah's having a Grand Torino moment.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 05:01 AM (8ieXv)

179 Why isn't every Republican representative not going apeshit over this? - Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 08:20 AM (j0IcY) ---------------- Because if you raise objections to the dismantling of a modern civil society, you're no better than the white racist who gunned down that innocent black schoolboy.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 28, 2012 05:02 AM (gPDxp)

180 Dear Dr. SCOTUS,

I need a ruling on whether to have this unsightly wart removed from the White House, or to have it deemed sentient and claim it as a dependent.

Which option will garner a larger slice of that sweet, sweet entitlement pie?

Anxiously,

Spunk Water

Posted by: Spunk Water at March 28, 2012 05:02 AM (/ZZCn)

181

174 -

It could have been effectively repealed when the GOP refused to negotiate on the budget they passed 2 years ago, and dems shut down government and Barky was forced to prioritize.  His idea of prioritizing would get him impeached. The economy wouldn't have crashed as they had predicted, and today Slow Joe would be one of the retards running on the dem ticket. 

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 05:03 AM (UpwlP)

182 I'm still trying to figure out how the left can tell you that you must have health care, you must buy certain kinds of light bulbs, and you must pay for contraception for poor, college folks, yet they say the government has no business being involved in the abortion issue.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at March 28, 2012 05:03 AM (Gkhxf)

183 So if conservatives who have put up with this sh@t for so long suffer Stockholm Syndrome, what about all the koolaid drinking tools and just plain stupid leeches who support the SCOAMT? Diagnosis, please.

Posted by: Justamom at March 28, 2012 05:03 AM (Sptt8)

184 His idea of prioritizing would get him impeached. The economy wouldn't have crashed as they had predicted, and today Slow Joe would be one of the retards running on the dem ticket.

I don't know if these statements are true, or not.  What I do know is that the GOP is too cowardly to risk their precious political careers over the issue.  Which tells me everything I need to know about their character.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 05:04 AM (8y9MW)

185 What did Ginsburg ask?- Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2012 08:55 AM (EBBBm) --------------- "What day is it? Who are you people? Where's my hat?"

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 28, 2012 05:04 AM (gPDxp)

186 what the hell was wrong with the jet blue pilot?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 05:05 AM (Ho2rs)

187 A lot of you are overestimating the powers that the GOP had before 2010, and are certainly not comprehending how difficult it is to get the Senate to pass anything Harry Reid doesn't like. And I am positive Obama will not sign a repeal.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 08:59 AM


My memory of the events leading to the passage of StutteringClusterfuckCare reminds me that the final days were a kind of stare-down contest between Hairy Reid and Bitch McConnell. Bitch blinked, and stood aside to allow the final vote because he wanted to get home for Christmas.

The Republicans could have made more of a fuss and applied the same kind of procedural bullshit that the Democrats use to get their way, but The Bitch, like Weepy Boner, are too nice for that awful stuff. They might have looked bad or had their friends across the aisle mad at them if they actually, you know, stood up for principles or something.

I agree that this whole mess belongs to the Democrats. The Repubs were (and are) only weak-kneed enablers.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 28, 2012 05:06 AM (MQc8e)

188 >>I'm still trying to figure out how the left can tell you that you must have health care

They're saying you must have gov't-mandated health insurance.  There's no guarantee that insurance can be used to obtain care (bureaucrats, panels, algorithms).  Most Americans (present company excepted) are too stupid to realize there's a distinction between "insurance that pays for some portion of medical treatment costs" and "medical treatment."

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 05:07 AM (ZKzrr)

189 >>and are certainly not comprehending how difficult it is to get the Senate to pass anything Harry Reid doesn't like.

Piece of catshit wouldn't even bring light bulb amnesty up for a vote.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 05:08 AM (ZKzrr)

190

Posted by Jimmah at March 28, 2012 08:52 AM (UpwlP)

 

When shit goes south in Florida thanks to "Race Baiters, Inc." (and I mean when, not if) I wonder how many people are going to be very happy there's a stand your ground law in that state.  I know I would be.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 05:09 AM (SYrwI)

191 The JetBlue pilot and the stewardess from a week or two ago basically acted the same did they not?

Posted by: akak at March 28, 2012 05:09 AM (vfQBi)

192

For two years (longer actually) the feds have been printing money, and using the money to buy t-bills. And if I'm not mistaken, the banks also use the newley minted money to loan to the feds for a guaranteed return instead of loaning it to people who would produce something for the same return.

Shutting it down over a budget stalemate  and letting SCoaMF prioritize what to spend the non borrowed portion of the budget on would have been a boom to the economy IMO.

Of course there's always the 80% chance I don't know WTF I'm talking about, which puts me on the same pay scale as SCoaMF.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 05:10 AM (UpwlP)

193 MsMarple, the 'pubs surrendered what power they had, appearently in a play to not seem to negative wrt to StObama and make sure Obama owns the mess.

Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2012 05:10 AM (OfinX)

194 The JetBlue pilot and the stewardess from a week or two ago basically acted the same did they not?

Yep.  More or less.

Which makes me wonder what caused those episodes.

A nervous break-down is one thing, but a near-psychotic break with paranoid delusions?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 05:11 AM (8y9MW)

195 >>He described complacent conservatives as suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

I may love Ron Johnson more than I love Paul Ryan.

His real-world experience was running a company that makes plastic packaging for food and medical products--when you realize plastic is made from oil, that's a pretty broad swath of industries Obama et al designated for tighter federal control/destruction.  Plus, he's an accountant.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 05:13 AM (ZKzrr)

196 #191  Yes they did,  and that is very disturbing and creepy.

I have never heard of any crew member going crazy like that.  The only instance I can think of is the male flight attendant who called the passengers names,  grabbed some drinks,  and exited down the inflatable escape ramp.

Two people going insane like they are possessed,  ranting about bombs, Iraq,  and terrorists,  and having to be retrained by passengers,  all within two weeks. 

I can't tell you how I am looking forward to my flight to London in May.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 28, 2012 05:15 AM (GoIUi)

197 >>A nervous break-down is one thing, but a near-psychotic break with paranoid delusions?

Two in a month nationwide is probably not unusual for any industry, but when someone bugs out in a software lab it doesn't make the news.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 05:15 AM (ZKzrr)

198 And #64, yes, they could have done that. But exactly how do you think that would have gotten the bill repealed? Even if you could have stopped the press from demonizing the GOP and scaring everyone with how the debt limit was going to destroy the economy if it wasn't raised,


This is the "OMG, we tried this in 1995 and failed, so we must never, ever, ever try it again!" argument. If the Democrats thought that way there wouldn't be any Obamacare because a similar idea failed in 1993. But they don't think that way, which is why they win and we lose.


you would have had to get it past the Senate and the potential for a filibuster, and then you would have had to get Obama to sign the repeal, which he wouldn't


If the Dems don't want to play ball they don't have to, but then the debt limit doesn't get raised and spending needs to be cut to match revenues. Either way we win.

Posted by: schizoid at March 28, 2012 05:15 AM (sxkY6)

199 This SCOTUS theatre also has been a nice and stark reminder of what's really at stake in November. Scalia and Kennedy already are in their late-70's. Of course Ginsburg could go at any moment. Breyer's no spring chicken. If Obama is not unseated it's conceivable that he'll leave office with a 6-3 absolute majority on the SCOTUS that'll be young enough to serve together for two decades. Keep that in mind when you're deciding how best to "send your messages" or to "prove your points."

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 28, 2012 05:15 AM (r2PLg)

200

@AllenG, you would be surprised at the number of high functiong bipolar people in this world.  Medical science is awesome!  Of course the crash off your meds is pretty crazy, even switching from Med A to Med B can cause some off the wall shit.

 

@HeatherRadish™  (Re: Insurance vs. Care) A-Freaken-Men.  I blame the unfettered expansion of insurance to cover things far outside of it's original intent.  Ace is sitting on an essay from me about the end result of this where all care is "basic" and legally mandated to be covered by insurance.  Whether we like it or not a 2-tiered system is inevitable if we don't want this system to collapse.  But hey, it works for housing, food, clothing, pretty much anything else where there's "Survivable" and "enjoyable" as categories.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 05:16 AM (SYrwI)

201 186 what the hell was wrong with the jet blue pilot?

 

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 09:05 AM (Ho2rs)

 

It sounded like a panic attack possibly exacerbated by an existing but undiagnosed psychiatric condition.   My question is what the hell prompted it?   Possibly a mini-stroke?  Those are all kinds of bad news.

 

Viewed in tandem with the stewardess freakout      the other week, though, makes me wonder if airline      personnel received some kind of private briefing from someone in the gubmint    about potential terrorist activity      that's put them all on edge.   

 

Or maybe there's just something in the air.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 28, 2012 05:16 AM (4df7R)

202

A nervous break-down is one thing, but a near-psychotic break with paranoid delusions?

Also known here at Circa International as "Wednesday."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2012 05:17 AM (B+qrE)

203 >>So, did anyone else have their gas prices jump up massively overnight?

Went from $3.75 to $4.16 west of Indianapolis.

That's kind of how it works around here; 30-cent increase, then it dribbles back a dime or so over the next week, then another 25-cent increase, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 05:17 AM (ZKzrr)

204 SCOAMF called Kennedy out (along with the rest of the Supremes) at his State of the Union speech a couple of years ago. Pretty much publicly insulted and humiliated a separate and co-equal branch of government that he would later rely upon to uphold his signature initiative.

Wonder how that's working out for him?

Heh.

Posted by: Hayabusa at March 28, 2012 08:55 AM (wG0z7)


Ah ok, I knew Roberts was ticked...didn't know Kennedy took offense as well.


Thanks

Posted by: kawfytawk at March 28, 2012 05:18 AM (VIm97)

205 202 A nervous break-down is one thing, but a near-psychotic break with paranoid delusions?
Also known here at Circa International as "Wednesday."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2012 09:17 AM (B+qrE)

----

Thats going on FB today.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 05:18 AM (UpwlP)

206 very strange....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 05:19 AM (Ho2rs)

207 LSD?

Posted by: Jean at March 28, 2012 05:19 AM (OfinX)

208 Viewed in tandem with the stewardess freakout the other week, though, makes me wonder if airline personnel received some kind of private briefing from someone in the gubmint about potential terrorist activity that's put them all on edge.

Or maybe there's just something in the air.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 28, 2012 09:16 AM (4df7R)

 

Unlikely, thousands of airline employees someone would have broke rank.  They're calling upon some pretty common memes as fair as "air travel fear" goes.

Heck the "Bomb on the [Vehicle]" fear goes back even farther!

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 05:20 AM (SYrwI)

209 LSD?

I can't see that acronym anymore without thinking about Star Trek IV (Whale Wars edition).

"Don't mind him, he did a little too much LDS in the 60's."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 05:21 AM (8y9MW)

210 Verilli, Alito, Scalia? Are they breaking for espresso and tiramisu?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 05:21 AM (8/nTx)

211 Went from $3.75 to $4.16 west of Indianapolis.

That's kind of how it works around here; 30-cent increase, then it dribbles back a dime or so over the next week, then another 25-cent increase, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 09:17 AM (ZKzrr)



It's $4.88 at a station on the corner of North and LaSalle in Shitcago. But it's not repeat not Barry's fault. Hell, it could be $18 a gallon and Cook County would still vote 80% for Barry

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 05:22 AM (1Jaio)

212 denounced

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 05:22 AM (8/nTx)

213 207 LSD?



H8r!  oh, never mind...

Posted by: Mitt Romney 2012 at March 28, 2012 05:22 AM (udEUT)

214 >>So, did anyone else have their gas prices jump up massively overnight? ---- $3.99 to 4.09 in Leesburg, VA I may need to win the MegaMillions Jackpot just to buy gas.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 28, 2012 05:23 AM (gPDxp)

215 LSD worked for me!

Posted by: Tweaky Phonics Monkey at March 28, 2012 05:24 AM (mxnUd)

216 This heartens me slightly.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/27/ seen-at-the-supreme-court-breitbart/
(remove space after the numbers)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 28, 2012 05:25 AM (ZKzrr)

217 199This SCOTUS theatre also has been a nice and stark reminder of what's really at stake in November.

Scalia and Kennedy already are in their late-70's. Of course Ginsburg could go at any moment. Breyer's no spring chicken.

If Obama is not unseated it's conceivable that he'll leave office with a 6-3 absolute majority on the SCOTUS that'll be young enough to serve together for two decades.

Keep that in mind when you're deciding how best to "send your messages" or to "prove your points."

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 28, 2012 09:15 AM (r2PLg)

 

 

 

And how is Romney's record on conservative appointments look? Eh? Not so fucking good I would bet. I feel sooooo much better with his RINO ass making Supreme Court appointments. Don't you?

Posted by: maddogg at March 28, 2012 05:25 AM (OlN4e)

218 In happier news, I mentioned last week (I think) that my younger cousin had Melanoma.  The surgery to remove it went very well (he had stage I- which I'm assured is a relatively good thing) and they're virtually certain they got all the cancer.  The doctor did take some of one of his lymph nodes for biopsy- to be sure it hadn't spread- but says he saw nothing that made him concerned.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 05:25 AM (8y9MW)

219 My memory of the events leading to the passage of StutteringClusterfuckCare reminds me that the final days were a kind of stare-down contest between Hairy Reid and Bitch McConnell. Bitch blinked, and stood aside to allow the final vote because he wanted to get home for Christmas.

Reminds me of the story about Ronald Reagan, who spent Christmases in Washington instead of California, so his Secret Service detail could be with their families.  What a contrast.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2012 05:25 AM (i0App)

220 Did I just win the Biggest Dumbass of the Week Award?

Booyah!   I couldn't have done it without all of my peeps, y'all.

Posted by: Spike Lee One-Too-Many-Joints at March 28, 2012 05:26 AM (/ZZCn)

221 Howdy, folks!

I'm hoping and hoping that Obamacare will get overturned.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at March 28, 2012 05:27 AM (hfdSj)

222 Keep that in mind when you're deciding how best to "send your messages" or to "prove your points." Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at March 28, 2012 09:15 AM (r2PLg) And how is Romney's record on conservative appointments look? Eh? Not so fucking good I would bet. I feel sooooo much better with his RINO ass making Supreme Court appointments. Don't you?

Posted by: maddogg at March 28, 2012 09:25 AM (OlN4e)




Oddly enough, yes.

Posted by: Teh Mayan Calendar at March 28, 2012 05:27 AM (udEUT)

223 178  No, no,an Absolved moment.

Posted by: citizen khan at March 28, 2012 05:27 AM (rjSXf)

224 I may need to win the MegaMillions Jackpot just to buy gas.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 28, 2012 09:23 AM (gPDxp)


Buy futures before it goes up again. Be an evil speculator.

Posted by: schizoid at March 28, 2012 05:28 AM (sxkY6)

225

My memory of the events leading to the passage of
StutteringClusterfuckCare reminds me that the final days were a kind of
stare-down contest between Hairy Reid and Bitch McConnell. Bitch
blinked, and stood aside to allow the final vote because he wanted to
get home for Christmas.

--------------

 

I seem to remember that it couldn't be a tax increase because that would have required a supermajority in the house at least. So it wasn't a tax increase, or it would have never been sent to the senate. Now all of a sudden its a tax increase.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 05:29 AM (UpwlP)

226 Reminds me of the story about Ronald Reagan, who spent Christmases in Washington instead of California, so his Secret Service detail could be with their families. What a contrast.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 28, 2012 09:25 AM (i0App)


I believe W did this too.  Obama drags them half way around the world to Hawaii.  He's a giver that O.

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 28, 2012 05:30 AM (3jGS1)

227 I believe W did this too. Obama drags them half way around the world to Hawaii. He's a giver that O.

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 28, 2012 09:30 AM (3jGS1)

 

 

 

We've had other presidents nearly as evil as Obama (LBJ, FDR), but none as classless, exploitive, and self-obsessed. 

Posted by: Reactionary at March 28, 2012 05:34 AM (xUM1Q)

228

Hmm, Megamillions now at nearly half a billion dollars.  So are we starting a Moron ticket pool?  Go ahead send me your money, I promise to keep my personal tickets out of the pool!

(Anyone else wondering if Obummer is spending tax dollars on tickets? It's a better investment than Solyndra et al)

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 05:36 AM (SYrwI)

229 Interesting take from TepidAir yesterday.. 

"There are three basic questions that the Supreme Court is trying to decide.

1. Should they decide now, or wait? (That was argued on Monday.)
2. If they decide now, then is the individual mandate unconstitutional? (Today.)
3. If the mandate is unconstitutional, then is it severable from the rest of the law? In other words, if SCOTUS strikes down the individual mandate, does that invalidate the rest of the law? (Tomorrow.)

For Obama, the ideal outcome is 1. Now. 2. Unconstitutional. 3. ItÂ’s severable.


"ThatÂ’s why the arguments yesterday and today were feeble: Obama wants to lose the first and second questions. TomorrowÂ’s argument is about severability, and thatÂ’s the one to watch."

http://tinyurl.com/cgstn4q

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 28, 2012 05:36 AM (3jGS1)

230 that's good news allen 2 months ago diesel was 3.69....yesterday it was 4.16....03 down from the day before.....i've changed grocery stores so i can take advantage of the fuel rewards that fry's offers.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 05:37 AM (Ho2rs)

231 That's great news AllenG. 

Posted by: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain at March 28, 2012 05:37 AM (bj+Nc)

232 I believe W did this too W has class. Not viable currency in Washington anymore.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 05:37 AM (8/nTx)

233

W has class. Not viable currency in Washington anymore.

 

 

 

 

Whutduamean? renoB has had several very classy squalling sessions so far.

Posted by: maddogg at March 28, 2012 05:40 AM (OlN4e)

234 head is pounding this morning.......it's going to be a long day........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 05:41 AM (Ho2rs)

235

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 28, 2012 09:36 AM (3jGS1)

 

The Court's all over the place, any chance they could sever just the parts related to the individual mandate (The pre-existing conditons clause and the community rating?) The legislative intent is all over the fact that their connected.

 

In any case, a HUGE HUGE thanks to whoever removed the severability clause in congress/senate.  That may be the one smart thing about this law, someone had enough sense to realize it's not some "pick and choose the best bread and circuses" part.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 05:42 AM (SYrwI)

236 Hey, Yahoo thought I was important enough to make me a headline! 

Posted by: Amish Buggy Bill at March 28, 2012 05:43 AM (BHM5V)

237 The mandate is the heart of a 38,635,887 page law that no one on Earth has ever read ... and the SCOTUS is actually entertaining the idea that this major component can be taken out and the rest of that shit sandwich left in place??

This is pure insanity.  THe SCOTUS has no clue what the effects of an implementation of ObamaCare is going to be and yet, they are seriously considering listening to some lying sack of shit blow more smoke up their asses about letting the monstrosity continue on after having taken a major piece of it out?  WTFFFF is wrong with these people?  Code is assumed to all be dependent, unless built with the proviso that some subroutine can actually be taken out and the rest is left intact.

1/6 of the American economy and totally against the American Constitution ... and the SCOTUS is still holding hearings on severability over something that is OBVIOUSLY non-severable.

This is why I have no respect for lawyers whatsoever.  They are idiots.  This is insane.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 05:46 AM (X3lox)

238   112

An absolute concern, shared by all. Everyone wants to be fairly represented in the US Judicial Courts. And this administration will persistently emphasize "social justice" denying constitutional rights equally for all American citizens (even while awarding those rights to illegal aliens, and enhancing those rights to be monopolized evidently --given multiple Obama precedences-- by African-Americans).

Given the economic ruin of America, racist revolutions at home and abroad will nail our coffin shut and bury us deep. American citizens and humanity at large need the "natural rights" of equality, at least each person being equal under the law, "with Liberty and [blind] Justice for all."

Realistic expectation? Romney won't be any "better" than Reagan on SCOTUS nominees. For each Scalia appointment, there was Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy; 1:3 does not meet with "trust but verify".

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 05:46 AM (lpWVn)

239 I love Ron Johnson.



That is all.

Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 05:46 AM (P6QsQ)

240 Well, FOX news decided to put Rollins on, so they're muted till something important happens. I think I'll play me some Mark Levin from last night.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 28, 2012 05:50 AM (UpwlP)

241

Obama is a  liar and a communist. He's no better than Kim Jung Il. He'd have us groveling if he thought that it was fair. and he does.

 

Posted by: rectal exam at March 28, 2012 05:50 AM (O7ksG)

242 I had a nightmare that The Dems retained the majority in 2010.
That's all i remember. Weird isn't it!
Perhaps i need to take a break from politics.

Posted by: willow at March 28, 2012 05:50 AM (TomZ9)

243 "Finally, I want to share with you a story from Sen. Johnson I did not know before talking with him yesterday. Johnson explained that he was particularly offended during the Obamacare debate when the President suggested that money-grubbing doctors would unnecessarily "come after your tonsils" or amputate a leg. Johnson explained that his daughter was born with a serious heart condition and that doctors---doctors like the ones that Obama was demonizing---had saved her life after extraordinary efforts. It was, Johnson said, one of the things that impelled him to run for his Senate seat."


He started attending Tea Party ralllies because of this and the debt issue.  As he spoke up more and more at these rallies, it became apparent that this was a man of conviction and *gasp* common sense.  People started urging him - a political nobody - to run for Senate.  He had never run for office before.  He ended up defeating one of the Liberal icons of the Senate - Russ Feingold.

Do not tell me that an ordinary citizen with a brain and a heart cannot do bold things.

Posted by: mama winger at March 28, 2012 05:50 AM (P6QsQ)

244 201, 186

Negative side effect from Rx antidepressants.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 05:50 AM (lpWVn)

245 Obama demonizes everybody. I remember her lame comment about how doctors would appreciate advice from Washington about what treatments are effective. Like one size fits all...

Posted by: mike at March 28, 2012 05:50 AM (RIT3J)

246

After making the rounds on the morning show circuit, George Zimmerman's lawyer, Craig Sonner, was supposed to appear on Lawrence O'Donnell's primetime show on Monday night. But according to MSNBC, Sonner walked out of a remote Orlando studio shortly before the segment, leaving O'Donnell in the lurch.

After a rant about the cancellation ("He wasn't going to get out of here with an easy interview!") O'Donnell went ahead with his list of interview questions for Sonner anyway.

"Who is paying you?" a heated O'Donnell asked the empty chair. "Did you represent [Zimmerman] when he was arrested for assault on a police officer in 2005? Were you his lawyer then? Did you represent him in the domestic violence case in 2007?"



I'm guessing that all 3 of his viewers found that hysterical.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2012 05:51 AM (1Jaio)

247 243 THAT is worth noting! Thanks.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 05:52 AM (lpWVn)

248 >>>Rep. Diane Black explained that people are concerned by the uncertainty in not knowing what's going to hit them next in something so fundamentally important as health care. I'm concerned about gov interfering in my healthcare decisions, costing me more than I'm already paying, and rationing care. I want gov out of my life.

Posted by: mike at March 28, 2012 05:52 AM (RIT3J)

249 The Court will rule as narrowly as possible. I predict we'll all end up pissed off.

Posted by: mike at March 28, 2012 05:53 AM (RIT3J)

250 I'm concerned about gov interfering in my healthcare decisions, costing me more than I'm already paying, and rationing care. I want gov out of my life.

Yeah... I wouldn't say "uncertainty" is why I'm concerned about ObamaCare.  I'm concerned about ObamaCare because I'm quite certain that it's a terrible law that changes my status from that of "citizen" to "subject."

And I'm not okay with that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 05:54 AM (8y9MW)

251 Negative side effect from Rx antidepressants.

How much do they fly? Could be effects of sleep deprivation and drugs to counteract them.

Posted by: Heorot at March 28, 2012 05:54 AM (Nq/UF)

252 #249 - Winner!

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at March 28, 2012 06:01 AM (rtvsq)

253

So the poor elderly couple whose     home was misidentified as the home of George Zimmerman, and whose address was tweeted by Spike Lee (to his 250,000 followers) and many others, have been forced to move into a hotel for the time being thanks to the harassment they've been receiving. 

 

Link to FoxNews: http://tinyurl.com/cszgu9p

 

Way to go Lefties!

 

This is the part of the story that makes me    PARTICULARLY       FURIOUS, btw:

 

The confusion seems to stem from the fact the woman's son is named William George Zimmerman and he lived briefly at the address in 1995 [after graduating from college].

 

When William Zimmerman pleaded with the man who tweeted the address, the man responded, "Black power all day. No justice, no peace" along with an obscenity.

 

In other words, "Fuck you.  I didn't make a dangerous and possibly lethal mistake     by doing something that I had no right to do in the first place.       Fuck whitey."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 28, 2012 06:03 AM (4df7R)

254 246 O'Donnell histrionics.  Funny satire.

Lording over an empty chair yelling at his imaginary object?

Stone read his "public" speech in a van, FBI bugged, incarcerated without bond 2 years...

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 06:04 AM (lpWVn)

255 Is anyone else painfully tired?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 06:06 AM (8y9MW)

256 So the poor elderly couple whose home was misidentified as the home of George Zimmerman, and whose address was tweeted by Spike Lee (to his 250,000 followers)and many others, have been forced to move into a hotel for the time being thanks to the harassment they've been receiving.

If I were on the jury, I would award that couple every single penny that Spike Lee has ever made or ever will make.  That miserable little piece of shit (who sucks as a director, anyway) needs to be held liable for his actions.  Jail would be a nice little vacation for the race-obsessed retard.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 06:06 AM (X3lox)

257 Heorot

union restrictions on working pilot hours -- doesn't determine whether he's been missing sleep though, distraught over something in life.

You noted as well the likely reaction to a drug being a possible factor.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 06:09 AM (lpWVn)

258 What's the white African-American SCOAMF doing today? Checking some boxes?

Posted by: I am the egg man, . . . at March 28, 2012 06:11 AM (a362c)

259 I heard the pilot freaked out when they switched the peanuts out for those 100 calorie cracker snacks. You know, the ones with "O grams of flavor!!"

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 28, 2012 06:11 AM (Xq/IG)

260 256 Where is the Florida Attorney General taking public action with the Governor to protect EVERYONE'S rights and prevent further victimization?

Hiding behind Federal Hate Crime, leaving it to the discretion of Holder/Obama to protect Americans equally?

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 06:12 AM (lpWVn)

261 i want to hear the scoamf say......spike lee acted stupidly......and i want a hoodie with that on it.....it can be shortened to spike lee is stupid.....i wouldn't mind that.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 06:13 AM (Ho2rs)

262 i want to hear the scoamf say......spike lee acted stupidly......and i want a hoodie with that on it.....it can be shortened to spike lee is stupid.....i wouldn't mind that.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 28, 2012 10:13 AM (Ho2rs)



I don't want to hear Barky say anything.  He's a pathological liar, anyway, so his words are totally meaningless.  I want both Barky and his son, Spike, held to task for the America-hating pieces of shit that they both are.


No more words.  Orange.  jumpsuits.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 06:15 AM (X3lox)

263 255 Is anyone else painfully tired?
 

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 10:06 AM (8y9MW)

 

I was yesterday, but last night I managed to     unintentionally fall asleep at 7pm and slept right through till 1am.   I usually don't even     go   to bed until 1am.   All I could do was get up, get ready for bed, and go back to sleep till my alarm went off at six.

 

That's just physical tiredness, though.  The mental exhaustion of trying          to survive in       a  world plagued with leftist imbeciles and an     idiot in the Oval Office     is neverending.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 28, 2012 06:15 AM (4df7R)

264 Issa apologizes to dem scrunt.

Why do I feel that Issa and the boys don't give a shit?

Posted by: Sean Connery's Hand at March 28, 2012 06:16 AM (EL+OC)

265 radioactive Japanese monsters destroying Tokyo.

In one of the 3rd re-boot series IIRC G wades ashore, pulls the pressure vessel right out of the containment.  Sucks all the radioactivity out and goes looking for another.

So he's a really bad emergency plan.

Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2012 06:18 AM (lnh+c)

266 Is anyone else painfully tired?

"Ahh ain't no ways tahrrd"

Posted by: Hill at March 28, 2012 06:18 AM (Nq/UF)

267 266 georgetown you are doing it wrong....keep the boys...abort the girls.....

Posted by: china at March 28, 2012 06:19 AM (Ho2rs)

268

I definitely think the couple should sue the original Tweeter -- some random thirtysomething    dickhead    in fucking Cali -- AND Spike Lee.   The original Tweeter should be sued for starting the problem, and Spike Lee for using his sizable     Twitter    following to further the lie.

 

It should be noted that other black celebrities --  including Will Smith  --     were also     sent the erroneous address via Twitter, but I haven't heard that any of them actually re-tweeted it.  I doubt my politics mesh with theirs, but      kudos to them for not falling headfirst into the hellhole of lynch mob mentality.   

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 28, 2012 06:19 AM (4df7R)

269 Allen, very tired with bouts of ocd, not really, just tired with agitation which allows me to clean or  paint for hours in the middle of the night because i cannot sleep.
i cannot imagine those that have always paid attention to politics , how they find the zen zone.

ooohm.

ooohm.

Posted by: willow at March 28, 2012 06:20 AM (TomZ9)

270 "Is anyone else painfully tired?"



We're tired of winning.  We deserve to lose, finally.

Posted by: Ehud Olmert at March 28, 2012 06:21 AM (X3lox)

271 Dog chasing squirrel. Gotta go.

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2012 06:21 AM (lpWVn)

272 i cannot imagine those that have always paid attention to politics , how they find the zen zone.

They don't.  At some point, though, your body over-rides your mind and forces you to sleep.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 28, 2012 06:21 AM (8y9MW)

273

i cannot imagine those that have always paid attention to politics , how they find the zen zone.

ooohm.

ooohm.
**

A man-sized dinner with manly food and two Advil PM's at bedtime works wonders. Somehow I don't think my Dr. would approve though. 

**

ooohm...ooohm....

 

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 06:25 AM (8ieXv)

274 we have the shittiest leaders in control.
Imagine the President not coming out to calm things down, but piling on. and his DOJ yawning though it all.
imagine a man that caused the crown heights riots and deaths or innocent people now having a mic anytime he wants through a news channel. and uses it to agitate!
and hollywood , sports players all being on board with a black KKK putting a bounty on another americans head without allowing due  process of the law to finish it's investigations, having the media approve it all while using its forum to get others on board .

Posted by: willow at March 28, 2012 06:26 AM (TomZ9)

275

The REAL issue, and one that no one seems to talk about, is the idea that the Supremes CAN and Will override the clear intent of the Constitution if the issue is 'justified'.

 

Which means they can rewrite the meaning of the Constitution, WITHOUT Amending it... And everyone seems to be OK with that?

 

IMO this case is the most important the Supremes have heard... because if the allow Obamacare to change the fundamental balance between the People and Governemtn (their words), without Amending the Constitution first????  The Republic is over.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 28, 2012 06:27 AM (lZBBB)

276 i don't have to imagine the total craziness of it all, it's real.

Posted by: willow at March 28, 2012 06:27 AM (TomZ9)

277 Aman-sized dinner with manly food and two Advil PM'sat bedtime works wonders. Somehow I don't think my Dr. would approve though.
**
ooohm...ooohm....

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 10:25 AM (8ieXv)

mm hm. I do NyQuil, but it doesn't really work for more than a couple of hours sleep. i had thought of a wellplaced board on head to knock me out.

Posted by: willow at March 28, 2012 06:30 AM (TomZ9)

278 a heck must be a new post up.

Posted by: willow at March 28, 2012 06:31 AM (TomZ9)

279

AllenG

pilot goes off :     of course, it could be a case of not wearing protective equipment, while mixing the juice/contrails    no?

*ducks and runs*   

Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at March 28, 2012 06:31 AM (6M2rK)

280 What really pisses me off is this claim that 'healthcare is different.'

No, it isn't. It is goods and services like anything else found in a market. No amount of emotion can change that reality. Trying to do so is the primary cause of high medical costs.

Posted by: epobirs at March 28, 2012 06:33 AM (kcfmt)

281 Everything  is  speculation  at  this  point,  but  I'm  really  enjoying  how  the  Dems  already  starting  to  spin  it  as  being  good  for  Obama  if  ObamaCare  is  thrown  out.  Brown  won  in MA  over  this  zombie.  The  House  went R  over  this  zombie  -  in  what  some  appropriately  called  a  "restraining  order  from  the  people".  Yeah,  keep  telling  yourselves  that,  Dems...

Posted by: Optimizer at March 28, 2012 06:36 AM (As94z)

282 O/T and days late, but I am obliged to post a correction. I made a poster after the "Caption This" thread (BO binoc'ing NK) that credited the caption to Shredder when it should have been to Soothsayer. Corrected poster (same URL as before) http://bit.ly/GQwaRh On my humble li'l website http://bit.ly/H0qaJH Thank you. Carry on hootin' & hollerin'.

Posted by: A Melteddown Webworker at March 28, 2012 06:39 AM (lBpVP)

283 Wow. I see what folks mean about dirty socks.

Posted by: A Mindful Webworker at March 28, 2012 06:39 AM (lBpVP)

284 Speaking of Scott Brown, the Democrat mayor of Boston has declined to endorse Lizzy Warren.  Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

Posted by: rockmom at March 28, 2012 06:41 AM (qE3AR)

285 I WANT TO BREAK THINGS!!!!

Posted by: McLovin at March 28, 2012 08:13 AM (j0IcY)

 

 

 

Just don't break one of those $50 light bulbs.  You'll have to call out a hazmat team.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2012 06:41 AM (v+QvA)

286

White House forced to issue a statement backing Verilli after his abysmal performance yesterday, per Politico:

 

The White House is coming to the defense of Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr., whose performance before the Supreme Court Tuesday has been widely panned. "Mr. Verrilli is an extraordinarily talented advocate who possesses a sharp mind, keen judgment and unquestionable integrity," White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler said Wednesday morning. "He ably and skillfully represented the United States before the Supreme Court yesterday, and we have every confidence that he will continue to do so."

Posted by: rockmom at March 28, 2012 06:42 AM (qE3AR)

287 #283

Yeah, I heard some reports of that absurd spin.

If the SCOTUS rules this unconstitutional it will be a huge albatross around Obama's neck. Or, to put it another cruder but perhaps more appropriate way, it's a big fucking deal.

Obama was touted as a Constitutional scholar. Now he is going to have a major decision on Constitutional qualification find him in the wrong, on top of his classes having consisted of having the books of a renown lunatic forced upon the students. Ultimately, this man wasted a huge amount of our time and money on nonsense that should never have gotten past a late night bull session in a law school dorm room.

The real question is if the GOP or anyone running is smart enough to get the full advantage of it.

Posted by: epobirs at March 28, 2012 06:44 AM (kcfmt)

288 White House forced to issue a statement backing Verilli after his abysmal performance yesterday,

Vermin performed at the same level Barky always performs - telling stupid, blatant lies that are intellectually offensive in that only an idiot would believe any of it.  All of Barky's admin do this for pretty much everything.

Vermin gave a solid B+ performance for this treasonous administration of retards.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 06:45 AM (X3lox)

289 #288

They should just come out and say, "We asked the poor bastard to defend the indefensible."

It got to the point where Ruth Bader Ginsburg was trying to feed him arguments, even though her arguments were tendentious class warfare nonsense.

Posted by: epobirs at March 28, 2012 06:47 AM (kcfmt)

290 Check out the meme of todays MFM on Zimmerman. They are fighting and spinning...they are like a hooked Barracuda and will fight to the death.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 06:51 AM (8ieXv)

291 4 Magic and Company buying the Dodgers for $2M. They are getting gypped.
http://is.gd/q51Puh

Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2012 06:58 AM (YdQQY)


Magic Johnson group to buy Dodgers for record $2B

It's just a matter of 3 zeroes

Posted by: Dickus Maximus at March 28, 2012 06:53 AM (e8kgV)

292 Check out the meme of todays MFM on Zimmerman.

By next week, they will be showing pictures of 8 year old Martin holding a fluffy bunny.

Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 06:53 AM (GTbGH)

293 294 Check out the meme of todays MFM on Zimmerman.

By next week, they will be showing pictures of 8 year old Martin holding a fluffy bunny.

Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 10:53 AM (GTbGH)

*

And Zimmerman kitteh-juggling.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 06:56 AM (8ieXv)

294

I hear the spin that an Obamacare repeal would be good for Dems / good for Obama, but I fail to ever hear the rationale.

 

The best I can think of on my own is that it will give Obama something to run on as the victim.  OH, I TRIED TO HELP YOU, BUT THE MEANIE-MEAN REPUBLICAN blah blah blah...  But this doesn't seem like it does much for independents.  Obamacare is unpopular.  And I would hazard a guess that running against The Supreme Court in an election, though unprecedented(!), is also unpopular.  Even before someone points out that 22% of that Supreme Court was filled by Obama himself.

 

So what's the rationale?

Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 07:00 AM (kZVsz)

295

The police made Jodi Ferris get up out of her hospital bed and escorted her to the entrance—they were expelling her from the hospital because she had not signed the “safety plan.”

Scott met her at the entrance to the hospital. The police escorted them both off of the grounds of the hospital.

Jodi was told that she would be allowed to return every three hours to nurse the baby through the night.

Jodi and Scott were forced to spend the night that she had given birth in their car in the parking lot of a nearby Wal-Mart. You read that right. They kicked this mother out of the hospital, and in order to be close enough to feed her child, she had to sleep in the car.

Posted by: Janet Nippleton at March 28, 2012 07:01 AM (e8kgV)

296 295 294 Check out the meme of todays MFM on Zimmerman. By next week, they will be showing pictures of 8 year old Martin holding a fluffy bunny.
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 10:53 AM (GTbGH)
*
And Zimmerman kitteh-juggling.   While Gloria Allred holds a press conference with an alleged former Zimmermistress.

Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 07:02 AM (kZVsz)

297 And Zimmerman kitteh-juggling pureeing.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 28, 2012 10:56 AM (8ieXv)

 

 

 

 

 

FTFY

Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2012 07:03 AM (v+QvA)

298 The simple solution would be to pass a law requiring that all laws apply equally to those running the government. (Equal protection, anyone?)  Obamacare never would have passed if it applied to their own families--I'm amazed they get away with this. 

Posted by: artemis at March 28, 2012 07:05 AM (2XMD1)

299 #53 "Due to lack of bedspace, now in Canada they're starting to house drug rehab junkies and mentally ill lunatics in nursing homes."
(EOJ)
 
Do you have a link for that? Not doubting it - would like as source for a post at my blog.
 
TIA!

Posted by: speedster1 at March 28, 2012 07:07 AM (yeM7r)

300

Technically, the baby didn't sign the "safety form" either...

Posted by: reason at March 28, 2012 07:07 AM (kZVsz)

301 #296

The repeating theme I've heard is that ObamaCare is really PelosiCare and shouldn't be hung around Obama's neck, even though he campaigned on it.

Further, the delusion says everything else about Zero is so wonderfull that with ObamaCare out of the way his re-election can be focused on his other 'accomplishments.'

OK. We can do that. Solyndra, Solyndra, Solyndra. For starters.

Posted by: epobirs at March 28, 2012 07:08 AM (kcfmt)

302 I am a little concerned about kennedy's ability to find this a unique situation or circumstance, but less so than with something like affirmative action or school admissions. As much as I despise the court's rulings on affirmative action and admissions I will concede that you do achieve something "unique" as a result of these programs - however at too high a price and with a price being paid by those who have likely never committed any offense that would require them to pay a price. nothing unique is achieved by obamacare that could not be achieved by other less controversial means. the fact that it is a large part of the economy, that there are large numbers of people that need coverage, or that everyone may need it at some point are insufficient reasons to view this as unique or violate the plain language on the Constitution.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:10 AM (Z9EHQ)

303 oh yeah, as for the severability problem, it is relatively minor in the context of the obamacare problems but they should follow the rules. if they wanted it to be severable they should have added the sentence. neglecting to add the sentence is likely a result of the fact that they rushed this obamination through the process too quickly and forgot to do their proper due diligence. there is no reason to assume the rules are not the rules. if they want to fix the problem all they need to do is pass it again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:14 AM (Z9EHQ)

304 Many people seem to be upset that Treyvon MartinÂ’s mother has filed for trademark protection for her sonÂ’s name. I canÂ’t help but think that if people knew the real story here, they wouldnÂ’t be outraged at all.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at March 28, 2012 07:18 AM (e8kgV)

305 Many people seem to be upset that Treyvon MartinÂ’s mother has filed for trademark protection for her sonÂ’s name. I canÂ’t help but think that if people knew the real story here, they wouldnÂ’t be outraged at all. Posted by: Bill Cosby at March 28, 2012 11:18 AM (e8kgV) which is?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:19 AM (Z9EHQ)

306

@305

 

Well they removed the severability clause as I read the news reports, that's legislative intent (rather than an accident).  So it's bigger than that.  Like I said earlier, whoever removed it is a freaken genius, it ensured the law either stayed up or went down, not letting the SCOUTS scrap the unpopular parts and leave the unsustatinable bread and circuces in place.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 07:20 AM (SYrwI)

307 if they wanted it to be severable they should have added the sentence. neglecting to add the sentence is likely a result of the fact that they rushed this obamination through the process too quickly and forgot to do their proper due diligence.

Severability is missing because the final legislation was the intermediate Senate Bill (that was NEVER meant to be the basis for any final law but was only to get through one more Senate vote before the Scott Brown election killed the Senate moving any further) that was rushed in after the Scott Brown election - when everyone with a brain assumed that the monstrosity was finally dead (every Rahmbo thought it was finally over).  Remember all the insanity with DemonPass and the dems not wanting to vote on the language in the Senate bill.

This bill was a factory second - never meant for production - that was rushed off the line and sold to the public as the final product.

This was a disaster from start to end and should be thrown out based on that, alone (if America still had any sense left, at all).  The SCOTUS is making a bad joke out of the greatest assault on liberty (and the US Constitution) in modern history. 

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 07:23 AM (X3lox)

308 @305 Well they removed the severability clause as I read the news reports, that's legislative intent (rather than an accident). So it's bigger than that. Like I said earlier, whoever removed it is a freaken genius, it ensured the law either stayed up or went down, not letting the SCOUTS scrap the unpopular parts and leave the unsustatinable bread and circuces in place. Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 11:20 AM (SYrwI) thanks. I was thinking it was accidentally left out or some genius deleted it out of the final draft. I did not realize it was deliberate. if it was deliberate someone around there knows to play poker. if it was at a point where the court was reviewing it and it seemed the law might be declared unconstitutional, forcing the court into an all or nothing choice might make them less likely to declare it unconstitutional. interesting manuever, not enough.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:25 AM (Z9EHQ)

309 Severability is missing because the final legislation was the intermediate Senate Bill (that was NEVER meant to be the basis for any final law but was only to get through one more Senate vote before the Scott Brown election killed the Senate moving any further) that was rushed in after the Scott Brown election - when everyone with a brain assumed that the monstrosity was finally dead (every Rahmbo thought it was finally over). Remember all the insanity with DemonPass and the dems not wanting to vote on the language in the Senate bill. This bill was a factory second - never meant for production - that was rushed off the line and sold to the public as the final product. This was a disaster from start to end and should be thrown out based on that, alone (if America still had any sense left, at all). The SCOTUS is making a bad joke out of the greatest assault on liberty (and the US Constitution) in modern history. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 11:23 AM (X3lox) all right, either way I am glad it is not in.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:27 AM (Z9EHQ)

310

Well "deliberate" may have been too strong.  Someone may have been trying something else and failed.  In either case it's a boon for us.

That being said, we've always heard "the mandate is essential to the bill" which implies a certain intent behind the severability being left out.  If the SCOTUS runs with that....

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 07:28 AM (SYrwI)

311 Four Hundred Seventy Six Million! Whew! Now that would make Saturday morning feel like a million bucks ... well, like MORE than a million bucks actually! Good luck, Moeroons! Hope one of you wins it! (pssst ... don't forget who your bestest good buddy is!)

Posted by: And Irresolute at March 28, 2012 07:29 AM (RC3M9)

312 The government sponsored research, ''Life Cycle Assessment of Supermarket Carrier Bags'' by Dr Chris Edwards and Jonna Meyhoff Fry looked at the environmental impact of six different types of bags.

They found that cotton bags may cause more global warming, as a greater amount of energy goes into making a cloth carrier than a polythene one.

And that a cotton bag has to be used 131 times before it has the same environmental impact like its plastic counterpart.

And if a plastic bag is re-used as a bin liner, a cotton bag has to be used 173 times - nearly every day of the year - before its ecological impact is as low as a plastic bag on a host of factors including greenhouse gas emissions over its lifetime.

But researchers found that most of us only use the bags around 51 times before they are thrown away.

Posted by: Andrew Wyeth at March 28, 2012 07:32 AM (e8kgV)

313 87 Percent of Americans Agree With Conservative Supreme Court Justices on Broccoli Mandate

Posted by: Stephen Foster at March 28, 2012 07:39 AM (e8kgV)

314 Hey, james carville is saying that a defeat in the sc would be a great thing for the democrats. keep thinking like that. hopefully losing the white house, both houses of congress, a bunch of state legislatures, and a bunch of governor seats is equally good .

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:39 AM (Z9EHQ)

315

@314

It's "conspicious conservation" see: Freakonomics Podcast "Is that a prius you're driving?"

The only reason my wife and I started using cotton bags was because we got tired of having the plastic ones around the house.  And tired of having to take the garbage out right after a grocery trip (laziness!)

But we just found some cotton bags we had gotten at conventions and such and used those, plus their bigger than the average plastic grocery bag with better handles so we get our groceries in in one trip from the car  (helpful in an apartment complex.)  I could give a rats arse about the environmental effect of them.  (Some grocery stores give some nominal amount off for every reusable bag your bring in, that's also nice).

 

That being said, we forget our cotton bags more often than not, but we don't fret about it.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 07:40 AM (SYrwI)

316 That being said, we've always heard "the mandate is essential to the bill" which implies a certain intent behind the severability being left out. If the SCOTUS runs with that....

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 11:28 AM (SYrwI)


Any 2000+ page law should have ALL of its components PRESUMED to be non-severable unless explicitly stated.  This is like someone looking at 300 pages of computer code and deciding to take some routine out that performs important back-end work and thinking that the rest of the program is probably fine without it.

It boggles the mind, really.  Our SCOTUS sucks donkey dick ... sloppily.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 07:41 AM (X3lox)

317 Posted by: Stephen Foster at March 28, 2012 11:39 AM (e8kgV) there was a similar study on reusable ve disposable diapers in england. the study found that washing the reusable diapers at a temprature high enough to sanitize them required too much energy and mad them less efficient than disposable diapers. they authors just lied and used a lower temperature.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:42 AM (Z9EHQ)

318 JUSTICE SAMUEL ALITO: Do you think there is a, a market for burial services?

VERRILLI: For burial services?

JUSTICE ALITO: Yes.

VERRILLI: Yes, Justice Alito, I think there is.

JUSTICE ALITO: All right, suppose that you and I walked around downtown Washington at lunch hour and we found a couple of healthy young people and we stopped them and we said, “You know what you’re doing? You are financing your burial services right now because eventually you’re going to die, and somebody is going to have to pay for it, and if you don’t have burial insurance and you haven’t saved money for it, you’re going to shift the cost to somebody else.”

IsnÂ’t that a very artificial way of talking about what somebody is doing?

Posted by: Tara Lipinski at March 28, 2012 07:44 AM (e8kgV)

319 hey doe anyone have any idea why neal katyal decided to leave as solicitor general before zerocare got to the sc? is it a rats from a sinking ship thing?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:46 AM (Z9EHQ)

320

@318

 

I don't disagree, although Laws are more like a lego set than a computer program.  Several moving, non-interrelated parts.  You could decide to not build the castle and the rest of the set works just fine.

 

In either case, I was merely trying to point out that the Gov'ment is trying to have it both ways here.  "You can't strike this down, it's necessary!" unless they're losing in which case "Keep the law and just slice out the unconstitutional parts."  Bullcrap, they need to stick by what they started with.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 07:47 AM (SYrwI)

321

So I think today has the chance to be a very big day potentially. I'm very interested to see if the Court actually believed itself when it wrote in Dole v. South Dakota that when the Federal Govt. withholds state funds with the idea to force a state to do something, at some point if that number becomes so large it violates the 10th Ammendment. "Coercive" was the word they used.

 

Now, they've never actually found a case where the Federal Govt. threatening to withhold state funding reached that "coercive level" (see the Dole decision, where the Govt. withheld 5% of the Federal funds in order to force South Dakota to increase it's drinking age was not so large as to be coercive), but if they actually do believe that level exists, then this it, because there is no larger state funding program than medicaid funding.

 

 

Posted by: Rich at March 28, 2012 07:50 AM (ldOlo)

322 The University of Baltimore has selected five finalists in its search for a new law school dean.

One of the candidates is Ronald Weich, an assistant attorney general at the U.S. Department of Justice, the highest ranking office holder in the DOJ with knowledge of "Fast and Furious"

Posted by: George C. Marshall at March 28, 2012 07:50 AM (e8kgV)

323 Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) on Wednesday morning was asked to leave the House floor after removing his suit jacket to reveal a “hoodie,” then putting the hood of his sweatshirt on his head to protest the Trayvon Martin killing in Florida.

“Racial profiling has to stop,” Rush said. “Just because someone wears a hoodie does not make them a hoodlum.” Rush also put on sunglasses. Rush quoted the Bible while presiding officer Gregg Harper (R-Miss.) repeatedly interrupted him, then asked the Sergeant at Arms to enforce the House prohibition on hats in the chamber.

“The chair must remind members that clause 5 of rule 17 prohibits the wearing of hats in the chamber when the House is in session,” Harper said after Rush left.

“The chair finds that the donning of a hood is not consistent with this rule. Members need to remove their hoods or leave the floor.”

Posted by: W. C. Fields at March 28, 2012 07:53 AM (e8kgV)

324 so how exactly is racial profiling involved here?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:55 AM (Z9EHQ)

325 I don't disagree, although Laws are more like a lego set than a computer program. Several moving, non-interrelated parts. You could decide to not build the castle and the rest of the set works just fine.

The court has no way of knowing this, in general, and the idea that the court could even reach any reasonable conclusion on this stretches credulity.  In this particular case, the SCOTUS has not a clue what the actual legislation will do (other than bankrupt us as every single other attempt at socializing and centralizing health care (via insurance for the America-haters in the Barky admin) has done) let alone what the effects will be with one of the major legs taken out of it.  Just to claim that they would consider severability is offensive.

In either case, I was merely trying to point out that the Gov'ment is trying to have it both ways here. "You can't strike this down, it's necessary!" unless they're losing in which case "Keep the law and just slice out the unconstitutional parts." Bullcrap, they need to stick by what they started with.

Posted by: tsrblke at March 28, 2012 11:47 AM (SYrwI)


I agree.  But the SCOTUS (and everyone) has been letting Barky and his junta get away with making contradictory claims again and again.  The Vermin did it more than a few times in his oral arguments (for which he should have been held in contempt).

Law is more dynamic and unpredictable than computer code so the concept of severability should be much much stricter with laws, especially when it's a law that is about to pervert 1/6th of the American economy.  I am beyond offended that the SCOTUS would not only contemplate adding severability on their own but that they are so stupid and assholish as to declare that law without severability clauses does not even move one to the presumption of non-severability.

What passes for thinking and logic in law is ... INSANE!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 07:56 AM (X3lox)

326 Bobby Rush is a hood, so it's appropriate in a way.

Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2012 07:56 AM (GTbGH)

327 so did the hoodie wearing congressman use the word "hoodlum" intentionally?

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 07:56 AM (Z9EHQ)

328 What passes for thinking and logic in law is ... INSANE!! Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 28, 2012 11:56 AM (X3lox) I am of the opinion that they are engaged in a little bit of theatre. being slow and deliberate in their approach is less of a sign of respect or deference and more a matter of trying to seem apolitical. they do not need to set up another constitutional crisis with zero and his thugs. I sometimes wonder if maybe the decision to reject the suits regarding zero's birth certificate and eligibility are for the same reason - he would likely simply reject any rulings and refuse to leave. better just to wait him out and make sure it never happens again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 08:03 AM (Z9EHQ)

329 "As he [Ron Johnson] spoke up more and more at these rallies, it became apparent that this was a man of conviction and *gasp* common sense. People started urging him - a political nobody - to run for Senate. He had never run for office before. He ended up defeating one of the Liberal icons of the Senate - Russ Feingold. Do not tell me that an ordinary citizen with a brain and a heart cannot do bold things." MamaWinger, Amazing that he stayed a REPUBLICAN!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at March 28, 2012 08:04 AM (l23WN)

330 drudge has a link in which the la times says it appears five conservatives are prepared to toss the law in toto over severability. hope so.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 28, 2012 08:12 AM (Z9EHQ)

331 Have you guys seen the picture of MO in the East Room?  I don't know how to do the tiny url thing, but it's on theulstermanreport and  the whitehousedossier websites.  You'll see the pic first thing on the ulsterman site and on the other site scroll down to the article about MO and The Biggest Loser.

I know nothing should surprise me anymore, but her crassness seems to know no bounds, no respect for the White House at all. 



Posted by: Mayday at March 28, 2012 08:44 AM (orrLR)

332

Supreme's decisions:

1)  It is not a tax 8-1 (Breyer)

2) The mandate is unconstitutional (7-2)  (Kagan, Breyer)

3)  The mandate is unconstutional no matter if a state does it as well, Mr. Romneycare, an up yours concurrence (Thomas, Roberts)

4)  Mandate is severable (7-2)  (Thomas, Roberts)

5)  Violates state's rights, medicaid (5-4)  (Kennedy, Breyer, Kagan, Ginsburg.....Sotomayer is swing vote with cons)

Posted by: doug at March 28, 2012 08:48 AM (gUGI6)

333 Apple's riding high . . . for now.

Once upon a time that wasn't the case.

Most of Apple's success relies upon a vast user base that became such by using a PC.  And an environment built, developed and made usable by the ubiquitous PC.

Apple's succeeding now but the PC (and Microsoft) made it possible.

Posted by: Inspired by disgust at March 28, 2012 08:58 AM (CP+yl)

334 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2012 10:24 AM (7W3wI)

335

India on March 28, from Poole's

success chang (Chandipur) test test

of "blah moss" Seattle cruise

missiles, it is by the army of the

user part of the experiment.


Missiles with a range of 290 km, can

carry 200-300 kilograms of

conventional warheads, from mobile

launching ground launch device. This

type of "blah moss" missile is army

type missile face to face, two level

structure, the first level for solid

fuel, the second the use of liquid

propellant stamping jet engine. The

empty shoot model and submarine-

based models in the works.


Indian defense ministry has approved

the army to three group equipment

missile system plan. Now the "blah

moss" has been equipped with two

army regiment.

Posted by: freeoa at March 29, 2012 06:23 PM (WII+L)

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