1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday March 29. 2012.  On this day in 1951 Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were convicted of conspiracy to commit espionage during a time of war for passing atomic secrets to the Russians.  They were sentenced to death and executed.  At that time we knew what to do with traitors. There are still idiots today who maintain their innocence. That despite overwhelming evidence then and later with the Verona tapes.

2 Issa and Grassley are demanding the WH cough up an aid in their quest to see how far up the chain fast and furious went.   I fully expect the WH to ignore this just like all the rest of the demand. Hell, why not.  He knows he can get away with it.

http://is.gd/L1tP7w

3 Obama's joke of a budget was defeated in the House 414-0.  Yes, that's right zero. No Party lines here.

http://is.gd/6ASNYV

4 Today Obama sucks cock, tommmorrow he will suck cock too.

5 Rubio endorses Mutt

http://is.gd/1xHiM5

6 In case you missed this yesterday, MF Global CFO takes the 5th.  She is the one who can sink Corzine in more than just perjury.

http://is.gd/OOAlIO

7 What's Thursday got to be so happy about? I think that smug little bastard's on drugs.

8 Earl Scruggs

9 RIP

10 At 88

11 Fk Pixy's spam filter

12 SC House passes bill that will ban sleeping/camping on Statehouse grounds. Goodbye OWS assholes.

http://is.gd/RuCD26

13 Ladies (or other Hunger Games fans) you can take a guided tour through the Hunger Games sets in or around Charlotte, NC.

http://is.gd/qHXuyR

14 Some serious WTF going on here.  China is selling out military counterfeit military parts.  If I recall correctly it used to be US law that all military purchases had to be from US firms. When did that change and why?

http://is.gd/V4uecW

15 And that's it for news this morning.  Mostly everything is about either Obamacare which has been beat to death already or the sensational (not) new video that doesn't show Zimmerman injuries.

Imagine that, a fuzzy ass video doesn't show injuries to scalp.  Forget about testimony by police about bloody injuries, don't need that.  No need for a link, hell every news agency on the planet is carrying it.  That is today's race baiting meme.

16 Coffee!

17 Vic what's your opinion on what the black robed gods will decide?

18 Happy Friday Eve.

19 Vic what's your opinion on what the black robed gods will decide?

Posted by: Mr Pink at March 29, 2012 07:06 AM (eacNI)

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It will be 5-4 one way or another.

20 Vic what's your opinion on what the black robed gods will decide? Posted by: Mr Pink at March 29, 2012 07:06 AM (eacNI) mandate is almost dead for sure and 90% sure the whole damn law goes down for the count also

21 I wouldn't place ANY bets on any outcome.

22 Vic: I thought we'd been buying Chinese ammo for years.

23 Vic: I thought we'd been buying Chinese ammo for years.

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 29, 2012 07:09 AM (6H6FZ)

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Evidently we have been buying a lot of foreign shit.

24 I wouldn't place ANY bets on any outcome. Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 07:09 AM (YdQQY) Maybe but I feel better about this commie bill than any time since it was signed into law

25 I just dont see Kennedy overturning this shit. That's the fuckhead that cites foreign law.

26 I just dont see Kennedy overturning this shit. That's the fuckhead that cites foreign law. Posted by: Mr Pink at March 29, 2012 07:12 AM (eacNI) Oh yee of little faith. And anyway he made a passing comment about foreign law, I would not get to worked up about that

27 If this is overturned I will have to get lubricant from NASA because the force at which I fap will be unimaginable.

28 Cy Young was born today

29 Last week 82 and sunny.  This morning: Snow.  Maine winters aren't tough, it's the "spring" here that kills the spirit.

30 I don't know if it was Kennedy or not w/o looking it up, but they did reference foreign law as a precedent in that BS ruling about executing "yoots" who murder people.

31 Cy Young was born today Posted by: Stephen at March 29, 2012 07:16 AM (uhPd1) Wonder what he might fetch in today's market?

32 The msm is saying the Jet Blue pilot had some type of mental health disorder.

33 28 Cy Young was born today


Who?  Who?  Who?

34 But if anyone does want to place bets on the outcome, it was trading at 55 on Intrade yesterday.

35 The msm is saying the Jet Blue pilot had some type of mental health disorder. Posted by: Stephen at March 29, 2012 07:17 AM (uhPd1) Ya gotta get up real early in the AM to get anything past the MSM ha?

36 My information was old, so please disregard. It looks like we beefed up domestic ammunition production during the 2000s. I don't see anything more recent than 2010.

37 15 - "...Obamacare which has been beat to death already..." I know you are talking about the topic, but when I read the line I got a tingle up my leg for just a moment at the thought of the actual law having been beaten to death. Alas, no. I have not even the slightest idea what will come of it, but it not only needs to be beaten to death, we need to pump rounds into it, gather up the carcass, feed it to wolves, then blow up the wolves. Just to be sure.

38 I think they have to scrap it. Don't see them parsing through 2700 pages to cherry pick what to keep.

39 The Jet Blue pilot lied about graduating from Carnegie Mellon according to MSM. He attended but never graduated. Where does Jet Blue find these pilots?

40 Nevergiveup...haha

41 @14 I'm going to have to say it was a Clinton era change.

42

Any American judge who dares utter one syllable about the use of any foreign law in our court should be   immediately removed from the bench.

 

Our laws are based on our Constitution and absolutely nothing else. I do not, nor will I ever, recognize any other authority.

43 Just looked it up.  Yes, Kennedy sided with the liberals on that one and cited foreign laws and treaties (which we are not party to).

44 I love it when we send our troops into a hostile battle with gear provided by not only the lowest bidder, but the lowest communist bidder!  IIRC, Bill Clinton probably had a hand in this, and now we've got Shillary as SecState. 


Sweet deals are made of these!

45 All of the MSM around the country is talking about the 500 million lottery. Matt Lauer just showed the tickets he purchased.

46 My gut says the SC does what it always does and piss off everyone. It will sever the mandate and allow the rest to stand.

47 All of the MSM around the country is talking about the 500 million lottery. Matt Lauer just showed the tickets he purchased. Posted by: Stephen at March 29, 2012 07:20 AM (uhPd1) they are wasting their time. It's mine, all mine!

48 Happy Birthday, John Major!

49 I don't watch much TV news, but flipping through the channels, I am really sick of pictures of smiling little Trayvon at 12 years old instead of the 17 year old with the grillwork which he actually was. I feel bad for his family and that he was shot, but I loathe the totally biased miserable media.

50 Rope v Simmons

Tortured logic to get rid of more of the death penalty.

http://is.gd/ra0xvx

51 My gut says the SC does what it always does and piss off everyone. It will sever the mandate and allow the rest to stand. Posted by: McLovin at March 29, 2012 07:22 AM (j0IcY) Personally I think they will shit can the whole thing, but even if they do let the rest stand, it will collapse from the lack of funding anyway

52

Some serious WTF going on here. China is selling out military counterfeit military parts. If I recall correctly it used to be US law that all military purchases had to be from US firms. When did that change and why?

 

Many ICs used in today's electronics aren't made here anymore. When I worked intrumentation radar, we had to find parts from wherever we could get them, and the new old stock from the 60s,70s and 80s is drying up/nonexistent. There are a few manufacturers out there that are willing to set up a run, but none of them are US based. So it is getting very easy for the Chinese to make BS parts and get them into our military supply chain.

53 Sad day to see Earl S. passing.

54 Well finally figured out what was wrong with my original post.  Pixy has banned his last name.

55 This is a pretty big story for 2 reasons: 'Azerbaijan granted Israel access to air bases on Iran border' Foreign Policy quotes U.S. diplomats as saying that 'Israel is deeply embedded in Azerbaijan' and says intelligence officials worried that Israel's military involvement in Azerbaijan would complicate efforts to reduce Israeli-Iranian tensions. 1) It answers the question about how Israel's Air Force could carry this out 2) It pretty shows how negative the obama admin is to Israel and how little they care about stopping Iran from getting the Bomb

56 We've seen this before with the SC, during Oral arguments our side destroys the lefty Position, the judges seem to be on the side of the Angels then the decision is delivered and we Are flabbergasted with the result. Do you really believe that Kennedy is going to Come down the right way? Please!!!

57

they are wasting their time. It's mine, all mine

 

i admire your optimism.

so do us all a favor,  fund the delousing fees, after the ewok's hobo hunt, tanning of the hides, and don't forget the tip jar, please, and thank you. 

 

 

 

58 175,711, 536 to 1 chance of winning mega millions.

59 359 million lump sum after taxes now.

60 Super pickers with Doc Watson and Earl S c r u g gs. Along with their sons. Before Doc's son was killed in that tragic tractor accident.

http://is.gd/t6945j

61 If you wanna laugh go read any story in the NY Times or LA times on the SC. The first three paragraphs go like this. Conservative SC Justices _____ ____ ____ conservative _____ _____ conservative_____ _____ conservative. Conservative ____ _____.

62 359 million lump sum after taxes now. Posted by: Stephen at March 29, 2012 07:32 AM (uhPd1) -------------------- So, that's like, what, 359,000 thousand dollar hookers; or 35,900,000 ten dollar hookers.

63

@59  359 million lump sum after taxes now.

Some dude on Fox yesterday said odds are better that you would be struck by lightning 4 times and living to tell about it.

64 359 million lump sum after taxes now. Posted by: Stephen at March 29, 2012 07:32 AM (uhPd1) chump change

65 359 million lump sum after taxes now.
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Just think, in a few short years that will buy a loaf of bread.

66 Pentagon - POLITICS New security for US troops in Afghanistan to guard against Afghan insider threats So the "Mission" is no longer to get the Taliban and Al Quida and stabilize Afghanistan but protect your own ass. It's time to come home

67 @63 IT"S MINE!!!

68 Look, guys. Buy one mega millions ticket. You might as well. It's the price of a candy bar, and you get to fantasize for an hour or so. There's no need to buy more than one; God either wants you to have the money, or He doesn't. But it's worth it for the pure entertainment value.

69 Look, guys. Buy one mega millions ticket. You might as well. It's the price of a candy bar, and you get to fantasize for an hour or so. There's no need to buy more than one; God either wants you to have the money, or He doesn't. But it's worth it for the pure entertainment value. Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at March 29, 2012 07:42 AM (gPDxp) Exactly. I buy a few with my Staff and with the Vet Office next door.

70
If I recall correctly it used to be US law that all military purchases had to be from US firms. When did that change and why?

It's been that way for decades. I'm not sure of exactly when it started, but it may have been after the $500 dollar toilet seat fiasco (Reagan years). I remember my father going totally pissed when he learned the main gun on the XM-1 was to be built by Rhinemetall AG. He did the logistic support analysis on the turret.

71 BOLD!!!!!

7-2 to repeal at least individual mandate
5-4 to repeal entire law.

72 The 4 liberals wil all vote to keep it.  They will get their clerks to write meaningless shit in support of that. The 3 who mostly vote in support of constitution with forays into stare decisis will vote to kill it.  The conservative will vote to kill it.  Kennedy will vote depending on whether he is pissed at the conservative or not.

73

Heh..the mandate is now the "personal responsibilty clause" fuckin charletons, ya gotta give it to them though, they have brass balls.

**

Morn' Ya'lls

 

74 It will sever the mandate and allow the rest to stand.

Posted by: McLovin at March 29, 2012 07:22 AM (j0IcY)

Look at it this way.  If that happens then Republicans have a chance of scrapping the remainder of Obamacare and pushing through real, hopefully market based, reforms.

Next year.

Assuming Romney wins and Congressional Republicans win big.

And it's not like Obummer and the Democrats could run on reform.  They did reform, they can eat it.  And if the Supreme Court gives them a big fuck you in part or in whole so much the better.

75

good news

if you haven't ventured to Drudge this am...

spike has apologized

WH to rebrand hc mandate as, get this, personal responsiblity.

all is well with the world /

76
Well finally figured out what was wrong with my original post. Pixy has banned his last name.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 07:27 AM (YdQQY)

I told you there were certain trigger words tht invoked gray screen of death.

I was trying to post the lyrics of the Star B-l-*-z-*-r-s cartoon and couldn't do. That's when someone told me about it.

77 Vic, Hope things went well for Mrs. Vic yesterday.

78 I knew some names were blocked, just not that one.

79 Kennedy will vote depending on whether he is pissed at the conservative or not.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 07:48 AM (YdQQY)

Kennedy is Catholic, right?  And Obama did give the SC the proverbial finger at the State Of The Union address.

To be safe we should get some saucy 'Ettes to show up at his house and give him a nice lap dance.

80 Vic, Hope things went well for Mrs. Vic yesterday.

Posted by: USA at March 29, 2012 07:52 AM (6Cjut)

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It was an I-131 dose. Not surgery. Problem is can't go visit but they will probably release her this evening or tomorrow. I-131 has an 8 hr half-life and a 24 hr biological half life. She will have to decay away some before being released to the public.

81 I knew some names were blocked, just not that one.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 07:53 AM (YdQQY)


It's because of the 'u  g  g  s' at the end of his name.


Morning all!

82 I didn't think about that.  The old boot spam.

83 >>If I recall correctly it used to be US law that all military purchases had to be from US firms. When did that change and why?

I've got a meeting so I don't have time for a long explanation, but there's a mechanism for foreign companies with a US presence to be considered a US company by the DoD by establishing a presence here, with US citizens and a couple of other conditions.  I'm technically employed by a UK company (and our landlord-client that harasses me with MSNBC is a UK company who bought a US company) and the "North American" office in Indy is about 10% of the employees, but the project I'm working on right now will go into the Kiowa at some point.

And the last company I worked for was bought by Saab so they could get access to the DoD.

84 China has a "presence" here????

85 If you're planning to share your Megamillions jackpot, make sure you communicate that before the drawing.  The IRS will want evidence of a prior arrangement.  If you can't substantiate a sharing agreement, you will be income-taxed on the entire amount and you will also be subject to the gift tax laws on anything you give away to non-charities.

86 @73.........the idiots who wrote "personal responsibilty" do not even know what that means.....maybe it was "personal responsibilty per se" ?

87 >>If I recall correctly it used to be US law that all military purchases had to be from US firms. When did that change and why? -------------------- Many big systems, like the F-35, are financed by a number of countries. In return, they demand a certain amount of foreign content in the finished product. It also helps US manufacturers market weapons overseas.

88
The legacy of unions:

Two years ago, J. Alan Ilgen wouldnÂ’t have guessed Millheim would still be waiting on its new Little League baseball field.

But even with $58,000 in state grants in hand, thatÂ’s just what the Borough Council president said officials have been forced to do.

In October 2010, the borough received a grant from the state Department of Conservation and Natural Resources for the rehabilitation of a park and upgrades to the baseball field.

Almost two years later, the borough has twice bid out the project, and has twice seen those bids return higher than expected. Even with the grant money, Millheim can’t afford its plans for the field. “Obviously we’re having difficulty getting a project for a ball field funded,” Ilgen said.

The cause? According to Ilgen, its in no small part due to the stateÂ’s 50-year-old prevailing wage law.

The law mandates all workers on state-funded construction projects exceeding $25,000 be paid union-scale wages.

http://tinyurl.com/d75a8o7

89

Watching “Morning Joe”, minutes ago Mika Brzeninski and Joe Scarborough determined that Zimmerman had no injury to the back of his head after reviewing the ABC surveillance footage at the police station.  In an egregious act of editing, they clipped the film just before the officer who frisked Zimmerman noticeably looks at the back of his head.

 

To arrive at the conclusion of ABC and MSNBC, one must believe that the police and paramedics who responded to the scene conspired to lie in their reports about the laceration on his head.  What is the media coming to?

90 The Obama administration is now referring to Obamacare as a “bi-partisan bill” and calling the unpopular individual mandate “a Republican idea,” following three days of tough questioning by the Supreme Court.  You remember, that bill that no Republican voted for. 

They've also started calling the individual mandate the "individual responsibility" clause.  Because nothing says individual responsibility like the government ordering you to do something. 

In other news, George Orwell has achieved a higher angular momentum than a quasar.

91 To arrive at the conclusion of ABC and MSNBC, one must believe that the police and paramedics who responded to the scene conspired to lie in their reports about the laceration on his head. What is the media coming to? Posted by: jwest at March 29, 2012 08:02 AM (FdndL) NOt only that, but I saw the tape. You can not tell anything from that grainy tape.

92 What is the media coming to?
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The same place they have been for at least 50 years.  They lie and edit films to suit their propaganda.  Keep in mind that ABC is the one that edited the Palin interview to trade answers between questions to make her look stupid.

93 86 @73.........the idiots who wrote "personal responsibilty" do not even know what that means.....maybe it was "personal responsibilty per se" ?

Posted by: Case at March 29, 2012 08:00 AM (vVmp0)

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The sheer irony of liberals imposing personal responsibilty on more than 2/3 of the country is just too much fathom.

94 Regarding the Jet Blue pilot, why has he been charged with a crime?  He certainly has some mental issues, but does anyone believe he should have been charged with something?  ...everyone is a criminal these days.

95 Soledad O'Brien's ratings are in the shitter. Next stop - The Algore Network! In the immortal words of Curtis Mayfield, "...just move on up..."

96

I predict SCOTUS strikes down this piece of shit in its entirety 5-4.  "Salvaging" the non-mandated parts will be the fig leaf these three commie scrunts and Breyer use (make that 4 Scrunts) to justify this shitburger in their dissent, which Justice Blart will write.

 

If it goes our way, I don't see any of the others picking through the carcass and upholding bits and pieces.

97 91 Posted by: nevergiveup at March 29, 2012 08:03 AM (i6RpT) The American MFM is imitating the Al Jazeera/George Carlin broadcast method: "I call them the way I see them. And if I don't see them, I MAKE IT UP."

98 125 sq.ft. home features composting "toilet" bucket mix feces and urine with peat moss.

Boulder, CO building codes permit a home's sewage of human waste to be composted, no septic tank requirement at least?

No mention made of where the accumulating compost and run-off go...downhill if nowhere else. No mention made of landscaping: earthworm home sewage mote surrounding the single room home.

Back to nature and Medieval huts in the USA "New World". May as well make that a tent and go nomad as if spreading the joy of lesser carbon footprint.

99 Regarding the Jet Blue pilot, why has he been charged with a crime? He certainly has some mental issues, but does anyone believe he should have been charged with something? ...everyone is a criminal these days. Posted by: dogfish at March 29, 2012 08:07 AM (N2yhW) He will not go to jail. He'll never fly again, but the whole thing will be pleaded out and he'll get treatment and yada yada yada

100 96 - If it goes our way, I don't see any of the others picking through the carcass and upholding bits and pieces. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 29, 2012 08:09 AM (JDIKC) It would sort of be like picking through the pieces of Alien and trying to decide whether or not to save the steel extend-o-dentures or the acid saliva...

101 If it goes our way, I don't see any of the others picking through the carcass and upholding bits and pieces.
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heh.

Scalia's line: cruel and unusual punishment. By the quality of their arguments, does it appear that Sotomayor and even Kagan herself ever read it all, even at this point in defense?

102 He'll never fly [commercial pilot] again

103 He will not go to jail. He'll never fly again, but the whole thing will be pleaded out and he'll get treatment and yada yada yada I trust your analysis on this because, knowing that you are a dentist, I assume for some reason that you share an admin assistant with a shrink. Please tell Bob to say, "Hey!" to Emily for us.

104 @103 To be clear: I wasn't snarking at you. That's what actually passed through my head as I was examining why I automatically thought of your comment as authoritative.

105 Soledad's ratings are in the shitter because she chose to promote racism.
Ms O'Brien is only fooling herself with the contortions of logic she displayed.

106 103

No obscure references this early.

107 He will never fly any motorized aircraft again because his pilot's license will be revoked under medical conditions.

108 Kagan adjudicating this of all cases is a complete farce. The fact that she's on the court at all, having never argued a case in ANY courtroom speaks volumes. She really does make me ill.

109 Please tell Bob to say, "Hey!" to Emily for us. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 29, 2012 08:16 AM (p7SSh) took me a sec, but that's an allusion to the Bob Newhart show right? Actually in my case it's a Vet. His patients don't talk as much but they lick your face alot

110 Screw the Washington post. They talking about the assissination of Treyvon's character. Liberals drooling over this. How about sticking to the facts? Commies

111 She really does make me ill. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 29, 2012 08:20 AM (Af3Wg) But she brings a "Boatload" of experience to the job?

112 It's a shame that we can't trust the government to actually do the right thing according to the supreme law of this country. I'd like to start over with a whole new group of folks in charge. Ones that actually understand what the Constitution says.

113 No obscure references this early. Please tell Bob that I hope Howard gets well soon.

114 Liberals drooling over this. How about sticking to the facts? Commies Posted by: Stephen at March 29, 2012 08:22 AM (uhPd1) Ah that's commie bastards to be accurate

115 In this country...he may get another chance to fly after rehab.

116 You gotta love O'Fuckstick's budget getting voted down 414-0 in the House.  Not a single donkey willing to put his neck on the chopping block for Obama.

This genius spoke at my commencement.  Master of the obvious I say.

“There’s a consensus in america we have to reduce our deficit,” said Rep. Rob Andrews, New Jersey Democrat.

117 72 Kennedy will vote depending on whether he is pissed at the conservative or not. Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 07:48 AM (YdQQY) Does Kennedy's anger at SCOAMF for the SOTU insult outweigh his anger at (I'm assuming) Scalia? I'd wager it does and by a fairly wide margin.

118 panzer, so you can heat a house with an XBox

119 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

120 The trayvon-Zimmerman case is actually old. Like the contraception phony issue it has been brought to the front as a "squirrel" to keep the attention on meaningless shit besides Obama's failures.

121 Oh and by the way, my wonderful, sainted mother would have been 81 today...RIP Mom.

122 People freak sometimes, it happens.  Of course you don't want your airplane pilot to, that's not good.

123 Some Einstein tried to bring homemade fireworks on to a plane in Philly.

124 112 But she brings a "Boatload" of experience to the job? Posted by: nevergiveup at March 29, 2012 08:22 AM (i6RpT) A boatload of softballs and about a metric ton of Fluke-lube.

125 Does Kennedy's anger at SCOAMF for the SOTU insult outweigh his anger at (I'm assuming) Scalia?
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I haven't seen any great shift in his calls this year yet.

126 It was pretty much a forgone conclusion that his FAA medical would never be renewed but that doesn't address being charged.  I agree no jail, but why must everyone be charged?  ...everyone is a criminal.

127
Kennedy will vote depending on whether he is pissed at the conservative or not.

Imagine the resentment that must fester at being the one Kennedy that can't rape/kill his girlfriend with impunity.

128 Yeah...commie bastards..they are extremists.

129 75 WH to rebrand hc mandate as, get this, personal responsiblity.
all is well with the world /
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at March 29, 2012 07:51 AM (+auU

Bwahahahahaha! "Personal responsibility" from the crowd that encourages anything but that... that's too rich!

130 127 Imagine the resentment that must fester at being the one Kennedy that can't rape/kill his girlfriend with impunity. Posted by: nickless at March 29, 2012 08:25 AM (MMC8r) That could change with the right incentive (wink-wink, grin-grin).

131 123 Some Einstein tried to bring homemade fireworks on to a plane in Philly. Posted by: nevergiveup at March 29, 2012 08:24 AM (i6RpT) Allahu-Einstein!

132 Nice to see the left and right meet on salvaging the "good" parts of Obamacare, with Mitt on the "right" and Ruthie on the left. Defines where we are quite nicely.

133 Obama's joke of a budget was defeated in the House 414-0. Yes, that's right zero. No Party lines here.

IDK if anyone has mentioned this, but BHO called an actual floor vote on his proposed Budget a "partisan stunt" or something like that.  I really wish we had an effective Republican Party.  Andrew would have known what to do with that little gem immediately: "What: you mean you proposed a budget that you knew would be so unpopular that it wouldn't stand a chance of passing?"

And then, with yesterday's vote: "So let's get this straight.  The President submitted a budget that was so far left, that even the other Democrats- and at least one admitted communist- couldn't vote in favor of it."

134 118 Jean

Yep, a Franklin Stove could burn what dries.

It's the composting that's offensive, opportune to parasitic tape worms.

135 salvaging the "good" parts of Obamacare, with Mitt on the "right"
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no comfort

136 You gotta love O'Fuckstick's budget getting voted down 414-0 in the House. Not a single donkey willing to put his neck on the chopping block for Obama.

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 29, 2012 08:23 AM (3jGS1)

There's no better illustration that the JEF's 100% toxic.  Wait til he starts hitting the road campaigning this Fall and every donk is strangely out of the state on something or other until he's gone.

137

If the JetBlue pilot was taking psychiatric meds (and skipped them) and that's what led to this episode, he WILL be prosecuted.

 

The FAA does not allow pilots to take pretty much ANY antidepressant drug or any drug associated with mental illness (which is stupid and shortsighted, but that's another topic). So, if he had been diagnosed with any proscribed mental illness and did not ground himself and report it, he could easily be imprisoned.

138 Like the contraception phony issue it has been brought to the front as a "squirrel" to keep the attention on meaningless shit besides Obama's failures. It's more than that. The hardcore left still wants violent revolution. If you project your reason onto them, it makes no damned sense because they have control of the democrat party, the executive branch, and the senate. But remove that bias from your analysis, and it's perfectly clear that they have little interest in controlling the levers of power except to the extent that it advances their real goal: Smashing the apparatus and eliminating the rule of law.

139 , he could easily be imprisoned. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 29, 2012 08:33 AM (G/8zE) I doubt very much he will spend any time in jail.

140 budget getting voted
down 414-0 in the House.
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This mark another "unprecedented" record, the length Congress has taken refusing to pass any budget?

141 In geophysical science news: "Soledad O'Brien" has catapulted to the top of the list of proposed names for new lunar craters. Let's hope that it's a big one!

142 This mark another "unprecedented" record, the length Congress has taken refusing to pass any budget?

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 29, 2012 08:34 AM (lpWVn)

The House has passed several budgets.  The Senate...crickets...

143 What's the JetBlue pilot's age?

144 75, 129
Opposite game of definition.
Back to depending on what "is" is.

145 Analysis: US thwarting Israeli strike on Iran Obama betraying Israel? US making deliberate effort to hinder Iran strike by leaking classified info, intelligence assessments, says Ron Ben-Yishai in special Ynet report Ron Ben-Yishai Published: 03.29.12, 14:21 / Israel News The United States is leaking information to the media in order to avert an Israeli strike in Iran: The US Administration recently shifted into high gear in its efforts to avert an Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities by the end of the year. The flood of reports in the American media in recent weeks attests not only to the genuine US fear that Israel intends to realize its threats; moreover, it indicates that the Obama Administration has decided to take its gloves off. Indeed, in recent weeks the Administration shifted from persuasion efforts vis-à-vis decision-makers and Israel’s public opinion to a practical, targeted assassination of potential Israeli operations in Iran. This “surgical strike” is undertaken via reports in the American and British media, but the campaign’s aims are fully operational: To make it more difficult for Israeli decision-makers to order the IDF to carry out a strike, and what’s even graver, to erode the IDF’s capacity to launch such strike with minimal casualties. The first and most important American objective is to eliminate potential operational options available to the IDF and the State of Israel. I have no intention of detailing or even hinting to the options which the US government aims to eliminate by exposing them in the media. A large part of the reports stem from false information or disinformation, and there is no reason to reveal to the Iranians what’s real and what isn’t. However, it is blatantly clear that reports in the past week alone have caused Israel substantive diplomatic damage, and possibly even military and operational damage. obama out to fuck Israel: You bet

146 Nevergiveup, you may be right, but it's a federal offense to falsify your flight physical. 5 year sentence IIRC.

147 123 Some Einstein tried to bring homemade fireworks on to a plane in Philly.

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 29, 2012 08:24 AM (i6RpT)

**

Wasn't me. The only thing I make at home is Hobo Jerky.

 

148 Happy M1911 Day!  101 years and still going strong.

149

I was amused to hear Ginsberg go on about what a tragedy it would be if all that great Congressional work went to waste and that the Supreme Court should just fix the bad parts. Apparently she remains unaware that she is in the judicial branch, a branch not empowered to legislate. But that is the leftist view isn't it? If the language can't be twisted enough to justify the policy, then let the judges write a new one. Win-win.

150 Where is the date/time stamp on the illegally leaked Sanford PD video of George Zimmerman arriving at the station?

151 3rd class pilot license requirments (note for 1st and 2nd these are kept and added to)

Mental standards for a third-class airman medical certificate are:

(a) No established medical history or clinical diagnosis of any of the following:

(1) A personality disorder that is severe enough to have repeatedly manifested itself by overt acts.

(2) A psychosis. As used in this section, “psychosis” refers to a mental disorder in which—

(i) The individual has manifested delusions, hallucinations, grossly bizarre or disorganized behavior, or other commonly accepted symptoms of this condition; or

(ii) The individual may reasonably be expected to manifest delusions, hallucinations, grossly bizarre or disorganized behavior, or other commonly accepted symptoms of this condition.

(3) A bipolar disorder.

(4) Substance dependence, except where there is established clinical evidence, satisfactory to the Federal Air Surgeon, of recovery, including sustained total abstinence from the substance(s) for not less than the preceding 2 years. As used in this section—

(i) “Substance” includes: alcohol; other sedatives and hypnotics; anxiolytics; opioids; central nervous system stimulants such as cocaine, amphetamines, and similarly acting sympathomimetics; hallucinogens; phencyclidine or similarly acting arylcyclohexylamines; cannabis; inhalants; and other psychoactive drugs and chemicals; and

(ii) “Substance dependence” means a condition in which a person is dependent on a substance, other than tobacco or ordinary xanthine-containing (e.g., caffeine) beverages, as evidenced by—

(A) Increased tolerance;

(B) Manifestation of withdrawal symptoms;

(C) Impaired control of use; or

(D) Continued use despite damage to physical health or impairment of social, personal, or occupational functioning.

(b) No substance abuse within the preceding 2 years defined as:

(1) Use of a substance in a situation in which that use was physically hazardous, if there has been at any other time an instance of the use of a substance also in a situation in which that use was physically hazardous;

(2) A verified positive drug test result, an alcohol test result of 0.04 or greater alcohol concentration, or a refusal to submit to a drug or alcohol test required by the U.S. Department of Transportation or an agency of the U.S. Department of Transportation; or

(3) Misuse of a substance that the Federal Air Surgeon, based on case history and appropriate, qualified medical judgment relating to the substance involved, finds—

(i) Makes the person unable to safely perform the duties or exercise the privileges of the airman certificate applied for or held; or

(ii) May reasonably be expected, for the maximum duration of the airman medical certificate applied for or held, to make the person unable to perform those duties or exercise those privileges.

(c) No other personality disorder, neurosis, or other mental condition that the Federal Air Surgeon, based on the case history and appropriate, qualified medical judgment relating to the condition involved, finds—

(1) Makes the person unable to safely perform the duties or exercise the privileges of the airman certificate applied for or held; or

(2) May reasonably be expected, for the maximum duration of the airman medical certificate applied for or held, to make the person unable to perform those duties or exercise those privileges.
---------------------------



IOW, he will lose his license to fly any aircraft.

152 Some Einstein tried to bring homemade fireworks on to a plane in Philly. About fifteen years ago, I was talking to an ATF guy who told me that guns were the most high profile thing they regulate, but enforcement is not difficult because *everyone* is at least somewhat sensitive to questioning what is right or wrong when it comes to guns. The alcohol and tobacco have entrenched state interests since the states tax the hell out of both. It's black-market explosives--specifically fireworks--that had them jumping through their assholes most of the time. Gun dealers have an undeservedly shitty public reputation thanks to Hollywood, but as the ATF guy explained it, people in the fireworks trade are shadier than even carnies in real life.

153 My sister is flying that Jet Blue leg today. I told her that at least it wouldn't happen again. She can strike "crazed pilot" off her things to worry about.

154 I thought this was interesting, if not particularly surprising: "Voters who are not evangelical Christians but still consider themselves "very conservative" have backed Romney over Santorum by 43 percent to 25 percent so far."  http://tinyurl.com/btl7q2a

155 IOW, he will lose his license to fly any aircraft.
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Let me rephrase that.  He will be able to get a "sport license" which doesn't require a medical certificate. That will allow him to fly balloons and gliders.

156 Nevergiveup, you may be right, but it's a federal offense to falsify your flight physical. 5 year sentence IIRC. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 29, 2012 08:40 AM (G/8zE) I know, but he is not some jack ass passenger who caused the problem but a pilot ( presumably with a clean record?) who flipped out. No one is gonna want to sent him to prison.

157 Why no threats of investigation and possible firing of person or persons who leaked the so-called "smoking gun" video of Zimmerman arriving at the station? These threats WERE levied last week against the person or persons who leaked the true nature of Trayvon Martin's school suspension records.

158 The House has passed several budgets. The Senate...crickets...
--
and together, comprising Congress, this is touted the longest cycle without the passage of a budget...

stalling will likely extend through the 2012 elections, and the only question remains, will a budget ever be passed? Senate Republican Leadership isn't protesting effectively, and constituents aren't about to hold their breath. Ryan's can kicking "acceptably responsible" plan is unrealistic given our nation's circumstance. Were the global economy to complete the ongoing meltdown, politicians would be the last people in the world to act responsibly.

159 I keep getting telephone polls about the election. Should I identify as a white conservative who hates Obama or a black democrat who hates Obama or one of the sought-after hispanic independents who hates Obama? Yesterday I was a black democrat but I just don't know if that's the best way to skew their poll?

160 >>>Let me rephrase that. He will be able to get a "sport license" which doesn't require a medical certificate. That will allow him to fly balloons and gliders.

 Can't get a sport license without a medical if you ever had a real medical revoked.

(And sport licenses are for small, VFR-only two-seaters, not balloons or gliders.)

161 but as the ATF guy explained it, people in the fireworks trade are shadier than even carnies in real life.

I'd heard that before, as well.  I have to wonder why.

162

@ dagny

 

Thank God for that. The potential tragedy is unthinkable. I've been to Amarillo. What a dump.

163 Yes, just heard on radio that Phila passenger "forgot" he had fireworks (and explosive powder) in backpack when he went to board plane. How many times has that happened to me, I can't count.

Also, ABC released name of 13 year old witness in Trayvon shooting? Nice.

164 You guys probably talked about it but how were you supposed to see a broken nose and a bleeding head from that picture of George esp after he had seen a medic?

165 OK, there are some light aircraft in the sport pilot classification.  But it also includes balloons and gliders.

http://is.gd/WGjfTn

166 Yeah, because Obamacare is SO BORING.... So, what do we do, now? Stand vigil 3 months and hope for a smoke signal to let me know who my masters on this earth ARE? ?

167 O/T Normal or weird: To have your mother with you during child labor and birth? (husband there as well).

168 Why no threats of investigation and possible firing of person or persons who leaked the so-called "smoking gun" video of Zimmerman arriving at the station?

What's up with that video?  I haven't seen it, and I'm unlikely to get a chance in the next couple of days.  I heard on the radio this morning that it shows him going into the police station several hours after the incident with "no evidence of a struggle" or something like that.

Okay, fine.  However- he was interviewed on the scene.  The officers on the scene observed his bloody nose and blood on the back of his head.  If several hours had passed, it certainly makes sense (after having already spoken to officers once and not being placed under arrest) that he might have gone home to get cleaned up.  So, unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure how this is a "smoking gun" at all.

169 150 Where is the date/time stamp on the illegally leaked Sanford PD video of George Zimmerman arriving at the station?

Posted by: Lock Step at March 29, 2012 08:44 AM (giXh5)

What do these assholes expect to see from a grainy surveillance tape?  Did they expect Zimmerman to have an oozing 15" gash across the back of his head?  I'm sure there are closeup pictures of the injuries suffered by Zimmerman.  Here's another question.  What if Martin's hands/knuckles were all swollen and cut up?  Anyone that has ever been in a fight knows what can happen to your hands.

170 168 I didn't see the whole thing but from the angle and distance, you couldn't tell anything.

171 At that time we knew what to do with traitors.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)

Now we elect them to the highest office

172 So is McCain really quitting his blog?

173 Normal or weird: To have your mother with you during child labor and birth? (husband there as well).

IMO having them both there is kind of weird.  For them, if not for you.  But I've known plenty of women who decided the only person they wanted in the room (besides medical staff) while they were giving birth was their mother.  So that, alone, is pretty normal.

174 167 O/T Normal or weird: To have your mother with you during child labor and birth? (husband there as well).

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2012 08:55 AM (CMM9V)

My mother was there with us when my 2nd was born.  Right there on the south end with the camera.  Pretty cool if you ask me.  (the wife's mom had already passed away or she would have been there also).

175

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2012 08:51 AM (CMM9V)

**

Tell them your a white-hispanic-joo that enjoys long walks on the beach and satanic-animal-scarifice.  

176

Anyone that has ever been in a fight knows what can happen to your hands.

 

I don't think I've ever been in a physical altercation that hasn't left physical evidence, such as scratches or swollen knuckles.

177 The House has passed several budgets. The Senate...crickets... ---------------- Nothing of value will be passed in the Senate as long as it is run by that senile idiot from Nevada.

178 169 I hit my 17 year old last night for poking his little 8 year old brother with a lax stick hard enough to get him to let go of the last Krispy Kream that the neighbor brought over. I actually bruised my thumb.

179 O/T Normal or weird: To have your mother with you during child labor and birth? (husband there as well).

First kid, normal delivery, me and the mother-in-law in the room.

Second kid, c-section, just me, and I had to stay north of the curtain.

180 I don't think I've ever been in a physical altercation that hasn't left physical evidence, such as scratches or swollen knuckles.

Yeah, but so obvious it would be visible on typically grainy surveillance video?

181 Ok, I think it's weird to have Mama there. But apparently not.

182 >>China has a "presence" here????

I've no idea. Seems plausible a private Chinese company could have bought a US company at some point. Do you need federal permission to sell a company?

All I know is we can't export military software to China, but civilian/dual use stuff may be OK. And I'm far enough down the org chart that I never have to think about it.


If you're interested in monitoring DoD procurement, all contracts over a certain amount ($1M or $5M, I can't remember) get published at 5 p.m. Eastern every day, they publish a link on Twitter.  Kind of interesting to see what's being bought, and by whom.

183

@161

 

I dunno. At Shelton Fireworks in AL, after I had shot all their 3" mortars I went back and said they were okay, but where's the BIG ones.

 

"Those are biggest ones you cam legally buy."

 

"See, that's what I'm talking about. Gimme the illegal shit you've got in the back."

 

"We don't have anything like that."

 

Pussy.

184 Okay, early morning crew: go head over to my place.  I think the horde will enjoy today's post especially.

185
Obama's joke of a budget was defeated in the House 414-0. Yes, that's right zero. No Party lines here.

Not according to the AP article run by my local rag today:

GOP-run House easily rejects bipartisan budget

The House voted decisively late Wednesday to reject a bipartisan budget mixing tax increases with spending cuts to wring $4 trillion from federal deficits over the coming decade.

The 382-38 roll call paved the way for Republicans to muscle through their own, more stringent budget on Thursday, a measure that would blend deeper spending reductions in safety-net programs for the poor with a plan to dramatically overhaul Medicare. The vote also underscored the partisan polarization dominating Washington this election year, with leaders of both parties showing little inclination to compromise and let the other side claim a victory.
...
The plan won praise from outside budget experts. But GOP leaders have been unwilling to stray from party principles on taxes while top Democrats have shown no give on cuts to social programs.

http://tinyurl.com/btwzgwx

186 George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch crime captain who shot dead 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, originally told police in a written statement that Martin knocked him down with a punch to the nose, repeatedly slammed his head on the ground and tried to take his gun, a police source told ABC News.

In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he saw a man fitting Zimmerman's description lying on the grass moaning and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that killed Martin.



Brilliant move ABC in naming the witness. I'm sure this kid's life won't turn into a living hell now

187 The video camera is the property of the Sandord PD. Who had access to it? Who leaked what is potentially EVIDENCE in an upcoming trial? WHO is attempting to prejudice a grand jury against George Zimmerman? I highly doubt it's the Sanford PD.

188 There's a fireworks place on the Pennsylvania border that has an entire room of stuff for people who can prove they don't live in Pennsylvania.

189 Ha ha! "illegally leaked" = not supporting YOUR narrative

190 >>Normal or weird: To have your mother with you during child labor and birth? (husband there as well).

Usedta be labor and birth was the domain of female relatives.

191 Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 29, 2012 09:03 AM (7+pP9)

From your link, they voted on 3 budgets.  The 382-38 "bipartisan" one is the Simpson-Bowles debt commission plan.  The 414-0 was the one Obama submitted and the other is the one sent in by the progressive idiots below.


"The House also rejected a plan by the Congressional Black Caucus, 314-107, that was more generous than Republicans to many domestic programs."

192 I am tired of the witch hung for Zimmerman. Imagine if Zimmerman was a white male and not hispanic?

193 WHO is attempting to prejudice a grand jury against George Zimmerman? I highly doubt it's the Sanford PD.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it is at least "elements" within the PD.  I heard a report the other day that at least one of the officers (on the scene? after he showed up at the PD?  I don't know) wanted to arrest Zimmerman at the time but was overruled (The report I heard was confusing, so I don't know if he was overruled by other cops, or by the DA's office.  I would think it would be other cops, though- the DA wouldn't be brought in until the cops had already arrested a suspect, would they?)

194

Attorney for Treyvon says this video is "evidence" that Zimmerman should be arrested. Evidence of what?

195 Yeah, I know, I'm a horrible troll for saying this, but... I'm not expecting to see dried blood all over Zimmerman's face and scalp after he was treated. But, no bandage on the "gash" on his scalp? You can actually see his scalp well enough to see what looks like a small nick/scar (one would think if it was a recent wound, the EMTs who treated him and washed his face would've bandaged it), you can see where he was starting to have male-pattern baldness, so you while you might not see bruising or swelling on a dark guy, the video quality is good enough that you would see a bandage. No blood or dirt on his clothes? Head wounds bleed like nothing else. I will be the first to admit I don't have any firsthand experience with guns, and am probably misled by how movies show shootings, but you would think if Trayvon were on top of Zimmerman, straddling him, when he was shot, there would be a little of Trayvon's blood on his t-shirt, no? Yes, if cops didn't believe Zimmerman's account or ignored the fact that he seemed uninjured it would mean that they were lying/conspiring. I don't like that idea, but it'd hardly be the first time. We've seen cops and prosecutors in NC lie like rugs when it suited them (the Duke Lacrosse players shouldn't have been arrested) so why is it impossible that law enforcement might lie if it suits them here?

196 188 There's a fireworks place on the Pennsylvania border that has an entire room of stuff for people who can prove they don't live in Pennsylvania.

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2012 09:04 AM (CMM9V)

I've been there and signed the waiver.  Phantom has some pretty good stuff.  I still have a few mortars left from last year.  Dagny, where do you live (general area not exact town)?

197 Gerry, do you think that it's legal for the police department to release video from inside the police department to the press without official signatures, et al? This video doesn't support anything. It was taken hours after the event, what's wrong with you really? Mental illness or retardation or just a public school education?

198 Well Ed, one or the other is lying:

Before taking up their own budget plan for next year, House Republicans pushed a version of President Obama's $3.6 trillion budget to the floor for a vote, and it was it was unanimously defeated, 414-0.

That from Fox.

199 The proper place for a man during the birth of his child is chain smoking in a bar somewhere within 50 miles of the hospital.  The ideal time to inform that man of his childn's birth is:  For a boy, immediately.  For a girl, within 60 days.

200 196 About two miles from the Pentagon.

201 Pilots only need a medical exam every 6 months..easy to hide some mental problems when see the doctor for an hour or 2 every 6 months. Pilots should be monitored more frequently.

202 O/T Normal or weird: To have your mother with you during child labor and birth? (husband there as well).
Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2012 08:55 AM




I stayed with my daughter and her husband during both her labors.  Left at both deliveries, as they wanted to experience the births together alone as husband and wife.

203 In addition, an eyewitness, 13-year-old Austin Brown, told police he saw a man fitting Zimmerman's description lying on the grass moaning and crying for help just seconds before he heard the gunshot that killed Martin. ------------------------------------ Well get this. The media is reporting that the MOTHER of this young witness does NOT believe Zimmerman was acting in self-defense! Not her son, who is the actual witness, but the MOTHER of the witness.......who didn't witness shit! Ah yes, the media lynching of George Zimmerman has commenced anew! Just as momentum was shifting to Zimmerman. Hmmmmmmm......

204 UN chief to Syria's Assad: World is waiting for you to implement peace plan No it's not...Only idiots like you are

205 Wow. That is harsh Truman. I love being around my kids.

206 I love my daughters as my as my son.

207 NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stock index futures extended losses on Thursday after data showed the domestic economy expanded as expected in the fourth quarter while initial jobless claims were slightly worse than expectations.




The MFM has been running around for a few weeks with the latest unemployment numbers bleating at how good the are. This one is "slightly worse than expectations". So if the number is bad they won't even mention it now.

208 Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 09:09 AM (snRY5)

I'm sure the police took photos of the injuries to Zimmerman and also to Martin (hands cut from punching, etc) and that contributed to the release.  Hell, Ben Roethisberger played a whole football game with a broken nose and from that far away there is no way you could see a crooked nose.

Also, Zimmerman didn't run, the police knew him so if they planned to bring him in again it wouldn't seem like a problem to them.

209 bomber my mother in law EXPECTED to be in there.....i just wanted the medical staff and my husband......my mil still carries the grudge......

210 Head wounds bleed like nothing else.

Yes, they do.  That also means that a relatively minor one (say, an inch or so across- maybe less) can lead to a lot of blood.  And it doesn't take having your head actually bashed open to cause death from head trauma.  Someone bangs my head on the pavement, I'm not going to worry about how bad the injury looks.

Also, if the tape is from "several hours" (the way I heard it described this morning) after the incident, and if the would was actually relatively minor, it's entirely possible it had already stopped bleeding and did not require a bandage at all, or at least not one big enough that you'd see it under hair.

I don't know if that's what's happening there, but it's reasonable enough that I'm willing to give the cops the benefit of the doubt.  Especially since there's nothing in it for them just to let the guy go.  If they had any suspicions, it would have been easy enough just to hold him (which you can do without charges for 24 - 48 hours, depending on State, I think) until they'd had more time to investigate.

211 Leave Zimmerman alone..Stick to the facts. Keep politics out of this.

212
From your link, they voted on 3 budgets. The 382-38 "bipartisan" one is the Simpson-Bowles debt commission plan. The 414-0 was the one Obama submitted and the other is the one sent in by the progressive idiots below.

But you'd never know it from the way the AP story was excerpted by my local Democrat rag.

213 Daily Caller has still photos up from Police video showing huge laceration. Being Lutheran, I've broken my nose many times. I can now just put it back in place and viola! no sign of struggle. Hanky still handles fresh blood as good as sleeve. So I would think paramedics could clean a bloody nose and a split scalp as well as I can.

214 yes jenny....you try too hard

215

Brilliant move ABC in naming the witness. I'm sure this kid's life won't turn into a living hell now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2012 09:03 AM (1Jaio)

 

The kidÂ’s mother (with her attorney) was on Rev. AlÂ’s show last night saying that the cop who interviewed her son was leading him to say the guy on being beaten had a red shirt.  She also said the lead investigator stood in her living room and said (basically, and paraphrasing) that the shooting was not self defense and that it was motivated by “stereotypes”.

 

Unfuckinbelievable.

216 206 stephan brilliant!!!!

217 sock off

218 You know a lot about 1st aid? They don't bandage head wounds unless you're good with having all your fucking hair ripped out by the roots when you want to remove the bandage. They use a sterile glue like sealant that closes the wound and keeps out bacteria.

I've had sons who wrestle. Wrestlers get head wounds all the time. They are never bandaged. Bandaging a unshaven head is never done. The idea in and of itself is retarded.

Also if your head had been rubbed against the sidewalk until it bleeds, it isn't necessarily gushing. Did you never fall down as a kid? Do you not know what a "skinned" knee looks like? Does it "gush" blood or just sorta ooze? If there was hair in the way to protect it? Really, you can't tell anything about a wound on some guy's head who has been cleaned up from a video.

219 Ok, I think it's weird to have Mama there. But apparently not.
Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2012 09:02 AM



Not weird at all.  My daughter knows I give the very best back rubs.  Son in Law is best at fetching Chicken McNuggets and finding cool stuff to watch on cable.  We all have our areas of expertise, each of which is necessary during a long labor.

220

Yes, jenny. You try too hard.

 

This is hours after the incident.  He was not arrested and presumably was allowed to clean up and change clothes. 

 

Yes, head wounds bleed like crazy. They also STOP with less than an hour of direct pressure.

 

Thanks for stopping by troll.  It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance and I look forward to tearing you many, many new assholes. Be sure to fill out a visitor form so our Welcome Team can contact you.

221 Daily Caller has still photos up from Police video showing huge laceration. Being Lutheran, I've broken my nose many times. I can now just put it back in place and viola! no sign of struggle. Hanky still handles fresh blood as good as sleeve. So I would think paramedics could clean a bloody nose and a split scalp as well as I can. Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 29, 2012 09:15 AM (Upx7p) Yes great link. That sure does seem to show a laceration and also shows the cop looking at. Great get

222

So Spike Lee apologized. Poetic justice would have his Twitter account be hacked and someone post some of those Mohammed pictures and maybe a screed against the Koran on his feed.

Then, he could find out what it means to be "in hiding" from barbarians, like the couple did.

223 Ya, surgical glue for minor head wounds.  Bandaged heads are a mess.

224 The Hour of Power Approaches: Celebrate Human Achievement Hour!

http://is.gd/NleSWe

I can't believe they still set themselves up to be mocked like this.

225 eoj my sock was china the " yes" meant i think she tries too hard to contort the her stupid position on trayvon

226 This video doesn't support anything. It was taken hours after the event, what's wrong with you really?

He really, really, really, really wants to lynch a white guy, but a hispanic will do.  Gerry, why all the racial hate?

227 ugh sock off

228

Anchorman will have a sequel. 

Hmmm.... could be good, could be the worst thing ever

229 Al Sharpton...We all know that your career is built upon the race card.

230 I give up..you race card people won this country.

231 Also, ABC released name of 13 year old witness in Trayvon shooting? Nice.

 

Posted by: jeannebodine at March 29, 2012 08:52 AM (byR8d)

 

 

You've got to be kidding me.  Seriously?  WTH?

232 i really would like to know if anyone ever got trayvon's brother some skittles.........

233

Being Lutheran, I've broken my nose many times.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 29, 2012 09:15 AM (Upx7p)

 

If you would stop being Lutheran, people would stop punching you in the nose.

234

The Jet Blue pilot lied about graduating from Carnegie Mellon according to MSM. He attended but never graduated. Where does Jet Blue find these pilots?

 

 

 

 

 

Well...I have MANY pilot friends over there.  The pilot group in general are a bunch of consummate professionals.  The shit we have to put up with on a daily basis (NY airspace, weather, unruly passengers, fuckin' TSA) the MSM never want to talk about.  But when something involving an aircraft is out of the ordinary like this was they're all fuckin' over it.  Then the flying public is brainwashed into thinking the "co-pilot" doesn't know how to fly the aircraft.  Guess what.  He or she was a captain elsewhere before they were hired at JB.  "It's a miracle the off duty pilot was on board to land the plane."  Morons. 

235 It concerns me that people like Joe Scarbough are not bothered by the fact that their lies will get innocent people killed.

I think it should concern everyone.

*snaps sunglasses open*

236 You've got to be kidding me. Seriously? WTH?

No deviation from The Narrative can be allowed.  If witnesses are going to back up Zimmerman's claims, they must be convinced, coerced, or intimidated into changing their stories, or at least shutting up.

237 228 Anchorman will have a sequel.
Hmmm.... could be good, could be the worst thing ever

 

Posted by: Truman North at March 29, 2012 09:20 AM (I2LwF)

 

Tells me that Will Ferrell is desperate for some moolah.

238 The Daily Caller has a picture of Trayvon from another Twitter account he had. He's flipping the bird in the picture they have. I wonder if he looks like Barry's son in that photo?

239 >>I wonder if he looks like Barry's son in that photo?

Barry woulda taught him the "pretending to scratch" trick.

240 I love how the 'ABC Exclusive' graphic is smack dab covering Zimmerman's head through a lot of the video.  But there's no mistaking the cop looking at the back of his head.

241 If you would stop being Lutheran, people would stop punching you in the nose. Posted by: jwest at March 29, 2012 09:22 AM



DENOMINATIONAL PROFILING !!!

Is there a grievance committee for that?  If not, I would be happy to start one.  Seems like there's big money in hatin' and agitatin'.

242 Ok, I think it's weird to have Mama there. But apparently not.

You want weird? My brother was present for the birth of his first grandchild. North of events, but still.

Mama being present I can see if she's the type to be comforting. As HR says, used to be typical.

243 I'm asking because I just got the "album" of the birth of my libtard nephew and his libtard wife's delivery and her mother was in every picture. Creeped me out. I adore my mother but she is the LAST person I wanted in the delivery room with me. I needed to be calm not driven insane by her worry.

Under the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree principle, my son's say that, although counter intuitive, it's better to have me (mom) take them to the ER since I'm so outrageously panicked, demanding, and hysterical the service is much faster. Dad zones out on espn while their passing out from pain.

244 butterfly strips don't rip out hair, and Zimmerman's head IS shaved in the video. Mostly, though, he looks really neat and his clothes look really clean for a guy who just fought for his life on wet grass and pavement, and then shot someone at close range. Why would they wait several hours before taking Zimmerman in, too? That's a genuine question, is there some reason? It seems like you've got one guy dead, the other guy already says "I shot him"...I don't know from police, so maybe one of you does, but it seems like unless Zimmerman needed to go to the hospital (which he didn't) you would take him in pretty quick. It looks bad. Obviously, that's not the whole story, I'm sure police did take pictures but it still looks really bad. At this point, I hate hate hate to see The Racial Justice Traveling Show be right about anything and it's clear that Trayvon was no chiorboy, but, damn, it looks bad.

245 Anchorman was good, but I can't help but feel that a sequel would be something akin to making fart-lighting an Olympic sport. Not sure if that's good or bad now. I retract.

246

For the benefit of the "jailhouse lawyers" that say that the police didn't "arrest" Zimmerman, if you watch the police department intake video, you very clearly see that Zimmerman was handcuffed behind his back.  The case law is very clear: he was now in a custodial interrogation in which he was not free to leave. 

 

This indicates that the investigators were dubious of Zimmerman's account of the confrontation.  However, it seems that the prosecutor's office thought that the proving a criminal case beyond a reasonable doubt could not be attained.  Big surprise, but the video indicates that we are being lied to (again) about the actions of the Sanford Police Department.

247

I wanna see ObamaCare defeated if only to watch Obama pitch a hissy fit.

248 "Strip clubs, tattoo parlors, nail salons, gun shops and casinos would be banned from accepting taxpayer-funded EBT cards under a blue-ribbon panel’s report slated to be unveiled today — but Republicans warn the so-called reforms will hardly put a dent in rampant abuse of the taxpayer-funded system." says the boston herald.

249 Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2012 09:23 AM (1Jaio)

Damn, you beat me to it.  It's in the link. Does Obama still want to claim that?

http://tinyurl.com/cwrhhyx

As for that video, I think everyone is looking at the wrong spot, I know I was.  I was looking at the back of his head lower, just above the collar.  The still that the DC highlights shows what looks like a gash up near the top of his head.  It also clearly shows the police officer taking a 2 or 3 second look at the back/top of Zimmerman's head. 

250 243 Whoa. Their = they're
I'll go beat myself with a stick. Can't believe I did that. damn. Must be getting sick.

251 ..I don't know from police, so maybe one of you does, but it seems like unless Zimmerman needed to go to the hospital (which he didn't) you would take him in pretty quick. It looks bad. Obviously, that's not the whole story, I'm sure police did take pictures but it still looks really bad. From reports I read he was treated at the scene by paramedics.

252 Jenny, I love you, but why? Who cares? I can not give a rats behind about this story. the only people making hay about it want gun control out of it. otherwise they too, could give a rat's behind about that poor young man. What would be ironic, and has occurred to me, is if our White Hispanic Republican Tea Partier Mr Z happened to get a bit of a pass from the cops because he was . . . hmm . . so clearly a minority also. That would be ironic.

253 Jenny, since by your own admission you have no experience in emergency medicine, or with police procedure, or with guns, or with most anything else connected in a factual way with this story, I am noting your concern, and moving on.

254 jenny it looks bad for trayvon.....again...you are trying to hard.....stop your hand wringing and go back to where ever you came from.....

255 If you would stop being Lutheran, people would stop punching you in the nose. Posted by: jwest at March 29, 2012 09:22 AM (FdndL) Or I could stop going to Scientology bars. Still mulling.

256

Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2012 09:26 AM

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once received an invite to an acquaintance's home water birth.  beyond creepy

the b-i-l called us to tell us the wife was in labour, and ask how quick we could get to the hospital...also pretty creepy.  we declined, but other family went

257 This is hours after the incident. He was not arrested and presumably was allowed to clean up and change clothes. What? Why would police let him go home and change clothes, wash clothes? Are any of y'all cops who can tell me, genuinely, that it's a-ok for a dude who just shot someone to go home and change before the cops take him in? I have been present for exactly one bad fight in my life that was broken up by cops, assault charges filed, and there's no way they let my brother go home and change before they questioned him.

258 oh jeez.......it reminds me of the cat piss troll........

259 Why would you say that butterfly strips don't rip out hair? On what planet? How do you think they stick? "Magic"?


Regardless, I just told you they use sterile antiseptic glue on head wounds. Did you not understand troll-y?

260 Why would they wait several hours before taking Zimmerman in, too? That's a genuine question, is there some reason?

We'll try this slowly, one more time.

The cops showed up on the scene within about 2 minutes of the shooting (I'm not sure about Sanford, but nationally, average police response time is 5 - 7 minutes, last I heard, so they were almost certainly already on their way).  The cops interviewed him at the scene, they documented his injuries (with photos and everything), and they interviewed 6 other witnesses. 

At that time, they decided it was probably not a criminal offense, and let him go.  I'm guessing they requested he drop by the station at his earliest convenience to verify and sign the statement they took from him at the scene (my understanding is that's pretty normal).  At that point, he went home, got cleaned up, probably shook uncontrollably for several minutes (not necessarily in that order), and then went to the police station.  What else he might have done is his own business, but everything I've heard was that it was some hours before he went to the station- plenty of time for the bleeding to stop and even a butterfly bandage (most paramedics use glue, too- it's faster, and often easier to apply) be removed.

261 Does anyone know anybody getting food stamps? I thought they were just for food?

262 Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 09:31 AM (snRY5)

Jenny, you obviously know nothing so you contribute nothing to this discussion so why don't you say (type) nothing.  The report FROM THE SCENE states injuries, grass and wetness on Zimmerman's back.  They may have noted that and cleaned the grass after a few hours or gravity may have done its thing.

263 <<O/T Normal or weird: To have your mother with you during child labor and birth?>>

It's only weird if mom is there for conception.

264 So, if the cops showed up, took pictures and decided that Zimmerman was probably clear before asking him to drop by, why was he in handcuffs?

265 Jenny, let's talk about something else! This story is Teh Boring I believe you're not a troll, BUT - stop being so one-topic and maybe it won't look so much like you are one? I have a topic idea - Wrath of the Titans. Yay or meh? my kids are agitatin

266 "It looks really bad".


For Trayvon?

You're an idiot

267 the grandma was in every picture? wow.....sounds like someone was making the birth all about them!!!!

268 Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 09:26 AM (snRY5)



Jenny, read the police report from the night of the incident here:  http://tinyurl.com/6o5lnrw.  Click on 'Twin Lakes shooting initial report'.


It clearly states, "Zimmerman was placed in the rear of my police vehicle and was given first aid by the SFD.  While the SFD was attending to Zimmerman, I overheard him state "I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me.".  At no point did I question Zimmerman about the incident that had taken place.  Once Zimmerman was cleared by the SFD, he was transported to the Sanford Police Department."

269 It's only weird if mom is there for conception.

Some families can be too close.

270 Are any of y'all cops who can tell me, genuinely, that it's a-ok for a dude who just shot someone to go home and change before the cops take him in? I have been present for exactly one bad fight in my life that was broken up by cops, assault charges filed, and there's no way they let my brother go home and change before they questioned him.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 09:31 AM (snRY5)

Y'all are doing a great job solving this for us. Y'all seem to have this all figured out there, Columbo. The rest of us y'alls will just have to go on what evidence we see.

271 But how many children did Zimmerman kill in the couple hours before he went to the station? Trayvon couldn't have been the only black guy in a hoodie that night. THE MEDIA IS LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACE!!!!

272 I have a topic idea - Wrath of the Titans. Yay or meh? my kids are agitatin

I want to go.  I fully expect it to be a lousy story with terrible acting- but good fight scenes and sfx.  So typical summer action flick.

273

No deviation from The Narrative can be allowed. If witnesses are going to back up Zimmerman's claims, they must be convinced, coerced, or intimidated into changing their stories, or at least shutting up.

 

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 09:23 AM (8y9MW)

 

I      find it absolutely incredible that news organizations won't release the name of criminals who are minors, but somehow they have no problem releasing the name of an innocent witness who will now be harassed, threatened, and potentially assaulted.  Looks like s/he won't get to finish the school year unless s/he wants to get f'ed up like Walgreens!

274

414-0, vote to reject O-bah-muhh budget.Yeah! Bi-Partisanship!

RAAAAACISTS!-----Bobbie Rush

LOOOOOOOOZER!-----Ace Ventura

275 allen you didn't type that slow enough for jenny......can you try again?

276

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 09:31 AM (snRY5)

instinct kicks in with a head injury...you put your hand on it, whether it's a bump or cut.  so how much blood are we to expect splattered on the back of the shirt? particularly if the wounded party was prone when the wound was received? there's this little physics thingy called gravity - maybe you're familiar with it.

UOC's when there's bleeding: clean it up to prevent healthcare workers from excessive exposure to bodily fluids

 

277 261 Does anyone know anybody getting food stamps? I thought they were just for food?

Posted by: Stephen at March 29, 2012 09:34 AM (uhPd1)

The two welfare queens in front of me at Sams club last week spent $200 on Steaks, frozen lobster tails, etc with their Independence cards here in the lovely state of Maryland...

278 264 So, if the cops showed up, took pictures and decided that Zimmerman was probably clear before asking him to drop by, why was he in handcuffs?

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 09:35 AM (snRY5)

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Those were his everyday handcuffs. Nothing to do with the police.

279

It's pointless to try this case in the media. If Zimmerman was treated for a head injury, there will be evidence to document that fact. But anyone who breathlessly anticipates new "evidence" from a MFM  that has been proven to alter video, audio, documents, etc...to support their own agenda and narrative...

 

...is just clueless.

 

I wonder if the new special prosecutor is familiar with what occurred to Mike Nifong. I'd have to assume that most of the prosecutorial universe is aware of his plight, but then again, Florida.

280 Celebrity Apprentice? That idiot in Philly with the backpack full of M80s? How humiliating it is, as a woman, to listen to the oral arguments yesterday and realize how pathetic the female SC judges sound (I count Breyer as female)

281 tami i think she'd rather wring her hands than read the police report

282 you didn't type that slow enough for jenny......can you try again?

No.

I may have to pull out the "tired beyond tired..." sig again.

Also, I'm seeing that other people have seen things that I haven't, and I'm not so arrogant that I'm going to think my analysis is bullet-proof.

283

Soledad O'Brien's rating are in for CNN, worst in 10 years, and CNN has had nothing but bad ratings for 10+ years. If we could get them off of the hotel lobby and airport televisions, the bastards would fade away, like Ted Turners half a cup of brain cells.

 

BTW, has anyone noticed that Wisconsin's Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch is a super hot ultra milf teaparty babe. Wow.

284

+1 mwr.

 

And especially in this case where there's already a lynch mob out and ready for blood.

285 Liberals a having an orgasm over the SNAP program

286 >>But how many children did Zimmerman kill

If he was an abortionist, the same people trying to get him killed would be lionizing him.

>>Does anyone know anybody getting food stamps? I thought they were just for food?

You can sell your card for cash. You don't need to present ID to use them.

287 Jenny, let's talk about something else! This story is Teh Boring I believe you're not a troll, BUT - stop being so one-topic and maybe it won't look so much like you are one? Gah, fine. I've commented on plenty else, too. I really do have questions about things like the handcuffs and how long cops usually wait to take in one party to a fight that ended in a death, and heaven knows I'm not going to get an answer in any other forum on this subject. But yeah. My monsters could not be less interested in Wrath of Titans if they tried. The husband, though, is stoked.

288 I know a couple who did just the opposite when their baby was born.  They banned all family from the hospital, before and after the birth of their child.  No visitors at all.  Not even the grandparents could come see the baby.  Also would not let anyone come to the house after they took the baby home for 10 full days.

Not because they didn't get along with the grandparents.  But because the mother had some weird lib new age thing she read in a book about other people's energy interuppting "the bonding process" and  totally went off the deep end with it.

Grandparents didn't see the kid till two weeks after she was born, and they lived like three blocks away.

289 The wound is in the scalp - the paras may have stopped the bleeding, glued the wound and left off the bandage so it didn't rip all the hair off his head.

290

for 251

Properly done on-site investigations involving a death, particularly one that may or may not be a homicide, proceed at a pace similar to glaciers.  Dismiss from your mind everything you have learned about homicide investigations from television shows. Remember, they solve the "case" in less time than it can take investigators to sort out witnesses and begin collecting evidence.  

291 Morning everyone. I'm sitting waiting for my plane at Dulles. Flying through Laguardia on the way to Orlando (who understands airline schedules anymore?) I think it is telling that the WH is starting a PR campaign on Ocare. I think Kagan let them know it is 5-4 against, and the law is going to be dumped. So they are starting to rebrand it to use it as a campaign issue (those conservatives took away YOUR healthcare) If it was going to survive, they wouldn't rebrand, because Obama would be taking a victory lap. Fairly certain that the decision has been made. Now starts the process of writing the opinions.

292 Wouldn't ANY head injury support Zimmerman's case?  It confirms a struggle.

293 But because the mother had some weird lib new age thing she read in a book about other people's energy interuppting "the bonding process" and totally went off the deep end with it.

Yet more evidence for my "All Liberals should be elbow-smashed in the nose on general principles" theory.

294 Too many people would have to be lying about the nature of the fight (Martin on top, Zimmerman on bottom, losing badly) for that not to have been the case. The 13 year old kid, the guy who called 911 and ZImmerman would have had to conspired to coordinate their stories. And that seems just too absurd to consider.

295 >>the mother had some weird lib new age thing she read in a book about other people's energy interuppting "the bonding process" and totally went off the deep end with it.

I always imagine those kids rebelling by becoming conservatives and/or believing Christians.

296 $200 on Steaks, frozen lobster tails, etc with their Independence cards here in the lovely state of Maryland...

That's an abuse of language to call digital food stamps an Independence card.

297 BTW, has anyone noticed that Wisconsin's Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch is a super hot ultra milf teaparty babe. Wow. Posted by: maddogg at March 29, 2012 09:40 AM



Yeah, she used to do the local TV news here.  She's very sweet.  Soon after she was elected, she was found to have colon cancer.  From all indications, she is cancer-free at this time.  She's a lovely woman and what they are doing to her is shameful. 

298 That's an abuse of language to call digital food stamps an Independence card.

Not if they're using 1984 as a "How-To" manual.

299 >>That's an abuse of language to call digital food stamps an Independence card.

They get you fed without the bourgeoise shackles of gainful employment.  O_O

300 When are conservatives going to grow balls and eliminiate the corrupt SNAP program

301 The two welfare queens in front of me at Sams club last week spent $200 on Steaks, frozen lobster tails, etc with their Independence cards here in the lovely state of Maryland...

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 29, 2012 09:38 AM (3jGS1)

They're Independence cards alright. They make them independent from working for a living and from personal responsibility.

302 Ah we are having a "greco-roman myth" moment over here - I blame Goddess Girls - and the little boy is along for the ride. they loved Clash so am hopeful. Can't be worse than The Lorax Anyway, it's fine to noodle over criminal cases, but really, cases like this are always hairy and the supposed facts that you see in the news are 99 percent of the time inaccurate anyway. I wish they weren't but playing CSI, while fun and diverting, is kind of pointless. The politicization thing seems very one-sided and clearly has the goal of "see, people shouldn't be allowed to concealed-carry" which I find very, very disturbing.

303 So if Obamacare is struck down, did we end up better off than we would have with something McLame would have negotiated if he'd been elected? If it is overturned in full, we go back to the pre-law position. It's like it never happened. Medicare gets its funding back too.

304 Yet more evidence for my "All Liberals should be elbow-smashed in the nose on general principles" theory. Sure. Take away the last thing us Lutherans have to ourselves. . . . . and scene.

305 That's an abuse of language to call digital food stamps an Independence card.

 

Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2012 09:43 AM (joSBv)

 

I think you'll find it in the Newspeak Dictionary of Doublethink Terminology.

306 When are conservatives going to grow balls and eliminiate the corrupt SNAP program

It's on the calendar for 10th of Never.

307 I think it is telling that the WH is starting a PR campaign on Ocare. I think Kagan let them know it is 5-4 against, and the law is going to be dumped. So they are starting to rebrand it to use it as a campaign issue (those conservatives took away YOUR healthcare)

I agree and that's why it's now the "personal responsibility clause" instead of the mandate.  "Those dirty republican justices are against personal responsibility. They're judicial activists and you will get more of them if Romney's elected." 

You heard it here first.

308 Have you ever had to deal with cops? Do you know the speed at which they work?  It's glacial. They don't want to finish with one event and then have to go back out and get called to another. That doubles the paperwork. Last year my son got pulled over. He had borrowed my car which had a case of beer in the trunk. They charged him. He was pulled over at 8pm. He arrived home at 5 am.They don't work quickly. In fact, I can imagine that just having the paramedic clean his wounds and waiting around for all the crap at the scene probably took 5 hours.

The Catholic Church moves quicker.

309 In other news, and because there is only so much 'poor Trayvon' I can stand, the Decorah bald eagles had a second hatch yesterday.

310 Seems to me if someone says "your going to die now" that it should  be the last words they speak. Regardless of other circumstances. If you walk up to a cop and say that, and then tackle him to the ground, its a pretty good chance you'll be killed.

311 I think it is telling that the WH is starting a PR campaign on Ocare. I think Kagan let them know it is 5-4 against, and the law is going to be dumped. So they are starting to rebrand it to use it as a campaign issue (those conservatives took away YOUR healthcare) If it was going to survive, they wouldn't rebrand, because Obama would be taking a victory lap. Fairly certain that the decision has been made. Now starts the process of writing the opinions. Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 29, 2012 09:42 AM (eCYIY) Oh no doubt Kagan is still on the WH payroll. obamacare is going down, down down. You are absolutely correct and everything coming out of the WH and obama's re-eelction headquarters indicates that.

312

Sure. Take away the last thing us Lutherans have to ourselves.

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and scene.

 

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at March 29, 2012 09:45 AM (Upx7p)

 

 

You're just lucky I finished my coffee already, NLN, or you'd be owing me a new monitor.

313 Oh! I have a plane. Excellent

314 I'm watching the Mel Gibson Bounty movie. The native girl he hooks up with has great tits and shoes them the whole movie. That's really the only reason I am watching

315 They're Independence cards alright. They make them independent from working for a living and from personal responsibility.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2012 09:45 AM (1Jaio)

It apparently made them independent from basic grooming and wearing attire other than housecoats and slippers.  I should have taken pictures.  Would have made a great addition to People of walmart website.

316 Posted by: dagny at March 29, 2012 09:46 AM (CMM9V)



The police report shows 'Time arrived: 19:17'.  'Time completed: 3:07'.  That's almost 8 hours.

317 If it is overturned in full, we go back to the pre-law position. It's like it never happened. Medicare gets its funding back too.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 29, 2012 09:45 AM (eCYIY)

 

 

 

 

Yeah, except for the millions and millions wasted getting ready to implement the damn mess. If the Zero administration has a talent, its for wasting "boatloads" of taxpayer money.

318 That's really the only reason I am watching

That's a good enough reason for me.

What movie is that?

319 Zimmerman not only shot an unarmed teenager he shot one who had a physical disability. Martin was born with wrongwayitis. This disease causes a person who is trying to run away to actually run toward the object they are running away from. It's a debilitating disease.

320 If this is overturned I will have to get lubricant from NASA because the force at which I fap will be unimaginable. Posted by: Mr Pink

If you'd read Vic's parts link you'd know it's just Chinese 30W with a fake label.

321

The British actor who played bully Vincent Crabbe in the "Harry Potter" movies was jailed for two years Tuesday after he was convicted of violent disorder during the London riots in August last year.

Jamie Waylett was captured by security cameras on a number of occasions during the riots in Chalk Farm, north London, swigging from a stolen bottle of champagne and carrying a petrol bomb.

The 22-year-old was part of a gang of at least four people who took to the streets during the third night of violence in the capital, London's Wood Green Crown Court heard.

The actor, of West Hampstead, north London, admitted handling stolen goods -- the bottle of champagne that had been stolen from a supermarket.

322 What movie is that? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 09:49 AM (8y9MW) "The Bounty" on thriller Max

323 Martin was born with wrongwayitis... It's a debilitating disease.

Apparently also occasionally terminal.

324 CHICAGO (AP) —But Obama, who faces no serious challenger for the Democratic nomination, has sunk his cash into an expansive brick-and-mortar operation with offices in nearly every state. His campaign has spent more than $135 million on operations through February, according to an Associated Press analysis of Federal Election Commission records. That's about $3 million more than all his GOP challengers combined.

A review of Obama's balance sheets reveals a small army of paid staffers trying to help the Democratic president win a second term. Campaign filings list more than 330 paid staffers in Chicago and 200 more spread across the country — payroll costs that exceed $6.3 million during the last two months alone.



Barry is really good at spending other people's money

325 That despite overwhelming evidence then and later with the Verona tapes.

Posted by: Vic at March 29, 2012 06:53 AM (YdQQY)

 

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Yep.  The Rosenburgs got what they had coming.  Refreshing!  Really the tapes were just icing on the cake of proof; it was already obvious to anyone with a brain that the evidence against them was sufficient.  Of course, that means it was not obvious at all to libtard commie sympathizers.

Oh - and just for the sake of precision - I believe it's the Venona tapes.  Just in case someone wants to Bing it.

326 In other news, and because there is only so much 'poor Trayvon' I can stand, the Decorah bald eagles had a second hatch yesterday.
Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2012 09:46 AM


Ya, I have spent a happy morning watching Dad dismember and de-fur the dead squirrel he brought to the nest last night for the feed, which mom would not eat. Mom was not pleased with the menu selection, and promptly sent him out for fish. 

Still waiting on that third egg to hatch.

327 The police report shows 'Time arrived: 19:17'. 'Time completed: 3:07'. That's almost 8 hours.

Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2012 09:48 AM (X6akg)

Which means that the video is from about 2 hours after the physical confrontation.  Plenty of time to stop the blood flow from the head wound.

328 Barry is really good at spending other people's money Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 29, 2012 09:50 AM (1Jaio) Maybe but Danny Devito was better in the movie

329 Re: the scum Rosenburgs, had a university professor no less try to tell us there was no evidence of their guilt. I asked about the Verona tapes. Stutter, stammer, "well, the authenticity of those tape are in question."
Ha! Needless to say, I was not her favorite student.
(I later had a run in with her as she was with the campus "anti-war" protest against the 2nd Iraq war. I was holding a sign that said, "While you protest the war, someone is being tortured in Saddam's prisons." She said, "We can protest the war and be against torture." To which I said, "Seems to me, if you say you object to war on humanitarian grounds, you should actually support it because of the actual humanitarian violations by Saddam." Silence. Walks away. Ha! again.)

330 The native girl he hooks up with has great tits and shoes them Marinating w/o comment.

331 The police report shows 'Time arrived: 19:17'. 'Time completed: 3:07'. That's almost 8 hours.

This went on for 8 hours '100 yards from Trayvon's home' and the people at home didn't even notice?  As a father, I find that hard to reconcile.

332 Rick Perry is supporting pink slime, or rather the jobs that it creates. I think the media pretty much killed any hope of this product making it, but I admit I don't know much about whether beef created in this manner is good, bad or appalling.

333 The cops really don't want you bleedin' on their cars.

334 319Zimmerman not only shot an unarmed teenager he shot one who had a physical disability. Martin was born with wrongwayitis. This disease causes a person who is trying to run away to actually run toward the object they are running away from. It's a debilitating disease.

Posted by: polynikes at March 29, 2012 09:49 AM (HzcmT)

 

I understand it can be fatal.

335 "Seems to me, if you say you object to war on humanitarian grounds, you should actually support it because of the actual humanitarian violations by Saddam."

Orwell said 'Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist.'

They hate when you quote Orwell.

336 And it should be noted that once again when the police were needed immediately they were minutes away. Perfect example and outcome  on  why concealed carry is needed. And because of the publicity, if even one gangsta wannabe is saved because he isn't sure if his prospective victim is packing Treyvon would be that much prouder.

337

What???  I thought the police didn't arrest him, and instead gave him a pat on the back and an "attaboy, no need to even investigate this one *wink*"

And how are you supposed to see a cut or bruise on an average quality video, from about 10 feet away, on a guy with hair and a fairly dark complexion?  Anything to feed the frenzy.

338 >>This went on for 8 hours '100 yards from Trayvon's home' and the people at home didn't even notice?

I thought it was dad's girlfriend's home, or his uncle's home, or some shit?

The little brother expecting Skittles for the second half the basketball game should have piped up, unless he was fiction, too.

339

First Lady Michelle Obama and her two daughters are on their way to Las Vegas tonight as part of a trip around the western United States.

“Mrs. Obama and her daughters are taking a private family trip to the western United States,” said Kristina Schake, the First Lady’s communications director.

Mount Rushmore was among the familyÂ’s stops earlier today.

340 This went on for 8 hours '100 yards from Trayvon's home' and the people at home didn't even notice? As a father, I find that hard to reconcile.

Posted by: nickless at March 29, 2012 09:53 AM (MMC8r)

This means that the police arrived at the scene at 7:17 and the whole thing was wrapped up at 3:07 AM.  Ignore my other post #327, I was wrong.

341 They hate when you quote Orwell.

Rush is a piker compared to Orwell when it comes to understanding the Liberal mindset.

342 Dagny, I don't doubt that it was several hours to get Zimmerman cleaned up and paperwork done; that makes sense. I don't deal with cops regularly but do deal with county morgue and they are slower than molasses in January, like most government anything. What doesn't make sense (which is where one of you can tell me if it makes sense to you) is that he doesn't have any of his own or Trayvon's blood on his clothes, unless the paramedics also gave him clean clothes. Do they do that and then take the bloody ones in as evidence? EoJ said that Zimmerman probably went home and changed clothes, which didn't make sense to me. But, yeah, nobody knows and I have no willpower when it comes to this topic so I'm shutting up. I probably acquired some sort of troll virus and will start posting gay porn any minute now if I don't disengage.

343 332

Soylent Pink is cows.

344

Also, I'm seeing that other people have seen things that I haven't, and I'm not so arrogant that I'm going to think my analysis is bullet-proof<<<

 

Same here.  But there is a lot of Rosie O'Donnell grade science going on: "I'm just saying that this would be the first time in history that a head wound stopped bleeding before the person exsanguinated."

345 I've noticed, over the years, that the louder the leftards scream, the more bogus the cause.

346

Hey gang, MSDNC roll this out today, access to the pill apparently makes women earn more: http://tinyurl.com/cgv2652

Of course the strange assumption in there is that you have to choose between "Dating" and "working" because you know, it's that simple right.

Also there's 0 correction for people who had no children at all (and possibly remained single) and there doesn't appear to be any correction for marriage in general.  (Which may be a deciding factor in total income.)  In brief crappity, crap crap crap.

 

Sidenote, I swear I had an article a while back that showed that children in general lowered life time earnings (gross earnings, i.e. salary) releative to childless people, which would pretty much debunk this entirely, anyone seen something like that?

347 I Deeply Apologize To The McClain Family For Retweeting Their Address.It Was A Mistake.Please Leave The McClain's In Peace.Justice In Court

348 Mrs. Obama and her daughters are taking a private family trip to the
western United States



Gee.  They didn't even give little Malia time to unpack from her last trip. 

349 I've noticed, over the years, that the louder the leftards scream, the more bogus the cause.

Nothing needs to be added to this.

350 #98, I don't know how that house is even legal. In most places a minimum square footage for a bathroom, kitchen, and 100 SF of dedicated living space is required for a non rooming house dwelling. Usually it's something at a bare minimum (without counting all the accessibility requirements in some places) 5'x10' for a kitchen (sink, cook-top & oven required), 5'x8' for a bathroom with a sink, toilet, & tub required (to do laundry), and 100 SF of living space per person. There are also requirements for the size and number of windows for ventilation and egress of sufficient size to accommodate a firefighter in full  gear.

Composting toilets have been made legal again in some municipalities because of the 'green' fad. They are horrible and one bacterial overgrowth and vent/gasket seal failure away from causing illness or an explosion.

351 And how are you supposed to see a cut or bruise on an average quality video, from about 10 feet away, on a guy with hair and a fairly dark complexion? Anything to feed the frenzy. Posted by: yinzer at March 29, 2012 09:55 AM (/Mla1) Actually you can see a pretty significant bruise

352

Orwell said 'Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist.'

 

But he said this in the context of someone who joined the Socialists in the Spanish Civil War.  He was agitating against pacifism from the perspective of the left.

353 Maher agreed to some extent, adding that more than overt racism, “the new racism is denying racism”

Racist

354 What was it the cop (who later had to resign)  said? Live like a gangsta, die like a gangsta.

355 This means that the police arrived at the scene at 7:17 and the whole thing was wrapped up at 3:07 AM. Ignore my other post #327, I was wrong.

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 29, 2012 09:55 AM (3jGS1)



But it has me wondering.....why is there no timestamp on the police video?  Is that usual?

356 Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 09:55 AM (snRY5)

Why would you expect to see Martin's blood on Zimmerman?  If Zimmerman shot Martin while lying on his back with Martin hovering over him, Martin probably stood up when shot and tried to move and collapsed to one side or the other.  This ain't like the movies where gunshots result in exploding showers of blood...

357 I've noticed, over the years, that the louder the leftards scream, the more bogus the cause.

My corollary:  Always assume the MFM is lying.

358 Actually you can see a pretty significant bruise

Which, again, means there was a struggle.

359

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 29, 2012 09:57 AM (i6RpT)

I couldn't even make out the guys face on the video I saw, let alone a bruise.  Maybe I just saw a shitty quality one, but I'm assuming it's the same one everyone saw.

360 Maher agreed to some extent, adding that more than overt racism, “the new racism is denying racism”

To deny the charge is to be guilty.

Maher hired Kafka as a writer?

361

CNNÂ’s Brooke Baldwin: Would you, would your fellow African-American lawmakers be concerned about this case if Trayvon wasnÂ’t black?

Corrine Brown (D-Fla.) : Oh, let me tell you something. We had an incident in my area where a young, white female was, um, murdered, and I was just as concerned. Absolutely, I care about all of the children. You know. . .

Baldwin: What was her name?

Brown: The young lady that got killed?

Baldwin: Yes, maÂ’am.

Brown: In, um, in Orange County (looks off camera)

Baldwin: What was her name?

Brown: Yeah, yeah, the young lady that got killed.

Baldwin: Do you remember?

Brown: I donÂ’t remember her name.

362

326 In other news, and because there is only so much
'poor Trayvon' I can stand, the Decorah bald eagles had a second hatch
yesterday.

Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2012 09:46 AM

 

 

Those are the cutest little fuzzballs of raptory adorableness ever.

363 Feeding at Decorah.

364 I couldn't even make out the guys face on the video I saw, let alone a bruise. Maybe I just saw a shitty quality one, but I'm assuming it's the same one everyone saw. Posted by: yinzer at March 29, 2012 09:59 AM (/Mla1) Go to the Daily Caller and look. They blew up a pic of the back of his head. You also see the cop earlier in the tape looking at the back of his head

365 They are horrible and one bacterial overgrowth and vent/gasket seal failure away from causing illness or an explosion. Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at March 29, 2012 09:57 AM (KCvsd)/i] Welcome to my lower intestine on chicken wing night.

366

367 Baldwin: What was her name? Brown: Yeah, yeah, the young lady that got killed. Baldwin: Do you remember? Brown: I donÂ’t remember her name. Posted by: Job for a Cowboy death metal band at March 29, 2012 10:00 AM (e8kgV) Who's on first? Yes The man on first who

368 Feeding at Decorah.
Posted by: Retread at March 29, 2012 10:00 AM



Isn't it fascinating?
http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles

369 Go here yinzer:  http://tinyurl.com/7mk2ew9

370 Posted by: Job for a Cowboy death metal band at March 29, 2012 10:00 AM (e8kgV)

So what you're saying is that Brooke Baldwin either a) has been compromised by the Eeeeevil Fox News or b) will be included in the unemployment numbers next week.

371 Jenny you accusing someone here would hack you purposely to cause damage? Your ability to make judgements about people and situations is greatly lacking.

372

(The Hill) — The White House has no contingency plans in place in the event the Supreme Court rules the healthcare law is unconstitutional.

White House officials said Wednesday they remain “confident” that the healthcare reform law is constitutional and is implementing all the provisions of the law.

If the law is thrown out, there’s “no contingency plan in place,” principal deputy press secretary Josh Earnest said at Wednesday’s press briefing with reporters. “We’re focused on maximizing the benefits of this law.”

373 If Zimmerman hadn't shown the gun (which I assume, otherwise Martin would likely have not attacked), he may have been concerned that if he was over-powered that Martin could have found the gun and turned it on Zimmerman.

374

Jennytroll,

 

I have no such evidence, only supposition.  Based on police statements and witness testimony that all corroborate a struggle and documented his injuries, what is the more likely scenario:

 

- Everyone is lying. Cops, witnesses, EVERYONE.

 

- Zimmerman cleaned up before the video was taken and had his injury treated.

 

Don't strain yourself.

375 jenny, i don't want the facts to confuse your defense of trayvon....but.... the police report clearly states the condition of zimmerman "While I was in such close contact with Zimmermann, I could observe that his back appeared wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmermann was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head." that was from the police report....tami posted the link above....

376

The vice president also joked Romney had “chutzpah” for suggesting the president was “out of touch” with American’s economic concerns.

“Out of touch? Romney?” Biden said. “As an old friend of mine says, that’s chutzpah.”

377

Kardashian takes it up a notch and quits as paid spokesman for PITA. Cites   the "flouring" incident that she herself probably orchestrated and PITA denies having anything to do with as the reason.

 

As you were.

378 about whether beef created in this manner is good, bad or appalling.


Low grade burger, I believe. I'd have to be extremely hungry. Like hadn't eaten in 6 hours hungry.

379 @368

And it's over that fast. Just a mid-morning snack it seems.

Odd to watch a creature with a beak that could snap off your finger with ease being so tender with wobble-headed chicks.

380 obama out to fuck Israel: You bet
--

Timing. Ultimately, Obama won't prevent the military attack of Iran. Remember, Israel wants the US to do it.

Obama isn't the first (merely the current) POTUS globally advancing the House of Saud Wahhabi Caliphate, complete with it's origination of the Muslim Brotherhood Jihad terrorists in league with aggressors.

It no longer takes a skeptic to expect the current world leadership including globalist financial corporations to not only destabilize Iran, but ultimately Israel as well as the USA and everyone else. Divide and conquer is hardly new.

Obama's administration, scoffing at the Constitution and any feign to impeach, clarified before Congress that sovereignty "is" no longer.

You'd think Ron Paul wouldn't be the only Republican POTUS candidate platformed on constitutional integrity, national sovereignty, citizen LIBERTY and a solid Dollar. As is, Romney won't personally/politically take a constitutional stand, directly diverting constitutional interpretation to "constitutional candidate" Ron Paul in debate, and beyond debate relegated to Romney's self interested and globalist interest lawyers.

No, morons. I did not say that Romney campaigns to fuck Israel. But today, every POTUS is elected under the auspices of globalists whose monthly exploits play us all against everyone.

Since Ron Paul's voting record substantiates his authorization for Israel to defend itself regardless of UN, US or any foreign directive to stand down, and his ideology aligns with that of Austrian Jewish Economists, don't foolishly repeat lies that Paul is antisemitic, hates Israel, and/or wouldn't effectively militarily defend the USA given Congressional Declaration of War.

National sovereignty matters to everyone, including Iranians who are among the most intellectual people of the earth. Shiite extremism does not represent Iranians protesting their theocracy. Think again how many nations the US injures and offends by ordering that the world no longer buy Iranian crude oil. The US is acting as an empire against India, Australia, Eastern Europe, Russia and Asian countries, nations that DEPEND on Iranian trade for the literal survival of their populations. The economic boycott of Iran is not winning any hearts and minds of our own allies, let alone of Western friendly Iranian civilians. (Note the elitist hypocrisy: Americans revolted from the British Empire when such economic mandates were levied against us halting free trade.) Causing international banking conglomerates to seize Iran's Central Bank, looting the livelihood of every Iranian citizen, leaves every nation's banking system to be pirated, not simply Iran's or the Vatican's, etc. And "fire in the belly" Keynesian "Repo Men" Romney will not face down the Federal Reserve, let alone the globalist finance industry advancing global warfare. Indeed, Romney's enjoying his ride on the interventionist bandwagon.

It would be easier to encourage national stabilization throughout the world than global destabilization were civility the point. "Work smarter not harder." Israel isn't alone under threat. And starting a war doesn't end wars. Joining in WWI did not end all wars. Neither did reassigning where populations could live, national boundaries. Finally, genocide is not humane.

381  Spike Lee's Retweets of that wrong address are still in his timeline as of this morning

382 Sorry ABCÂ… Video Shows Gash in Back of Democrat ZimmermanÂ’s Head After Fight With Trayvon Martin

383 375 jenny, i don't want the facts to confuse your defense of trayvon....but....

the police report clearly states the condition of zimmerman

"While I was in such close contact with Zimmermann, I could observe that his back appeared wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmermann was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head."

that was from the police report....tami posted the link above....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 29, 2012 10:04 AM (Ho2rs)

-------

Well, then, why didn't the police say that in the report? Im confused.

384 Best Buy officials announced today they will close 50 of their big box stores and lay off 400 employees at corporate and support levels.

385 Jenny you accusing someone here would hack you purposely to cause damage? Your ability to make judgements about people and situations is greatly lacking. Posted by: polynikes at March 29, 2012 10:02 AM (HzcmT) Where did I accuse anyone of hacking? No, I was making a joke...someone upthread said I reminded them of the cat-piss troll, which was (I think) the girl who posted gay porn, right? Whatever. I never said the witnesses were lying or that there wasn't a struggle; there certainly was one and the witnesses have no reason to lie. It's just surprising to me (someone who's never seen anyone shot outside of movies/TV) that his clothes are so clean, so I asked. That's not cool, apparently. Got it.

386 Blogs — particularly a blog of big legal ideas called Volokh Conspiracy — have been central to shifting the conversation about the mandate challenges. At Volokh, Barnett and other libertarian academics have been debating and refining their arguments against the mandate since before the ACA was signed. At the beginning, law professor Jonathan Adler fleshed out the approach that came to typify the elite conservative response for the first months of the public debate: the Founders never intended for the Constitution to permit such broad federal power, but given New Deal-era precedent, the mandate, if it became law, would pass muster. Things changed on Volokh around the time that it became clear that an insurance mandate would be part of whichever health care reform package passed into law.

387 panzer, did you take your pill yet?

388 jimmah could you come over here so i can slap you??////

389 Misread Jenny's snark at the end of her post. Funny but that didn't change my conclusion though.

390

I missed where disagreeing with the conventional wisdom = troll

 

I also disagree with jenny, but she's not a troll IMO

391 Another prediction. You are going to see Michelle and the girls taking many vacations on the taxpayer dime this summer. They know this is the last chance to sponge off us, and will want to get maximum effect.

392

None of this would be questioned, The Herald says, if the 60-year-old driver, Susan Mait, hadn't dropped her phone on the floor of her SUV when cops yanked her from the vehicle. She was on the phone at the time with a Geico service rep who, per company policy, was recording the conversation.

The audiotape depicts a starkly different scene from what officers Nicole Stasnek and Derek Fernandes declared in their official reports and told the court under oath.

393 Obama comes out with an unconstitutional law? How is that possible? I mean his head speechwriter likes to play beer-pong and pose with cardboard cutouts. I mean that is so cool. Nothing makes sense anymore.

394 Vegans bash Starbucks for switching to natural coloring in the strawberry frapp.
http://is.gd/XR1uSP

The dude who calls himself "Center for Science[sic] in the Public Interest[sic]" didn't bash Starbucks for selling the drink in the first place?  It's got sugar and calories and taste....

395

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 29, 2012 10:06 AM (lpWVn)

Thank you for your support, mein Herr!

396

She's just Asking Questions.

397 Sorry ABCÂ… Video Shows Gash in Back of Democrat ZimmermanÂ’s Head After Fight With Trayvon Martin

I like the link in the comments:  Link to image msm would use today when reporting about Charles Manson.  http://is.gd/vryZKF

Funny because it's true.

398 I don't think jenny is a troll but she's putting up strawmen.  "Why weren't his clothes dirty?  They allowed him to go home and change?  Why would they let him change his clothes?"



She's making up her own 'facts'.

399 It's not true, Manson is white.

400 The WAPO is in full ACA defense mode today.  That idiot EJ Dionne says that we are a democracy.  No EJ, we are a federal republic.

401 Jenny dear, you have crossed the moron rubicon. Everyone says stupid shit here on occasion. Its when you double down on said stupidity with antecdotal BS after being confronted with facts that forces the troll label. Do you prefer your scarlett T in Rockwell Extra Bold font or in Wide Latin?? 

402

These are reasonable questions.  They should be answered.  There are logical common-sense answers.  We can dispense with them and move on.  This is not "MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?" territory.

403

SILVER SPRING, Md. - A manager at the Transportation Security Administration has lost his job after being arrested on prostitution-related charges. According to court documents, the agency had received a complaint of "very similar" activities back in 2009.

Bryant Jermaine Livingston, 39, was arrested while on the job as a supervisor of TSA agents at Dulles International Airport. The Manassas, Virginia resident, said by phone he is innocent of the charges, but declined to discuss the details of the case.

According to charging documents, on February 15th, Livingston used cash to rent a room at the Crowne Plaza Hotel on Georgia Ave. in Silver Spring, Md. The hotel manager recognized Livingston as a previous customer who, on earlier occasions had "groups of males and females frequently entering and exiting Livingston's room," according to a court document.

404 >>You are going to see Michelle and the girls taking many vacations on the taxpayer dime this summer.

I expect the 'vacations' to double as campaign stops at some point.

Respect the children's privacy! Now, give us $3 for a chance to eat ice cream with them!

405 Gay Pride Flag Flown Over U.S. Military Base In Afghanistan

http://bit.ly/HsyWxp

Link goes to Weasel Zippers.

406

Zimmerman's father went on the local FLA Fox channel to make a statement regarding his son.  Whether the details are true or not is of course up to an investigation to determine, but what he says his son told him does help clarify a bit of what we've    heard     from earlier     reports.

 

Link to WZ:  http://tinyurl.com/c9blns2

The father also said,     "I never foresaw so much hate coming from the president, the Congressional Black Caucus, NAACP, every organization imaginable is trying to get notoriety or profit from this in some way, but thereÂ’s so much hate."

 

To which I must sadly say, "Mr. Zimmerman, if you didn't foresee this, then I'm sorry you had to have your eyes opened in such a tragic and traumatic fashion.   This is what     they do and this   is what they've always done.   Welcome to your rude awakening."

407 Yo, Barack Obama murdered the budget.  He lives a 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

408 I believe the law about buying military equipment only from US sources was changed during the Clinton years. The liberal "thinking" on that is it means we can't get in a war with the countries that supply our military. Almost correct: what it means is we can't win a war with those countries - of course to the Neville Chamberlains of the world that is the same thing.

409 Jenny, a chest wound from a small caliber round doesn't bleed that much. Martin was actually very unlucky to die from a single bullet. Remember Giffords was shot in the head (many times more likely to be fatal) and survived. Internal bleeding in the chest cavity from a heart puncture is usually what happens. Two things that TV dramas have over emphasized. How loud a gunshot is, and how much bleeding there is.

410 I think what is most telling about the Trayvon Martin case is that all of the charges, accusations, and insinuations made by Trayvon's supporters have yet to be backed up by the known facts and evidence! Police coverup? No proof. Charges of racism? Debunked! Zimmerman as aggressor? Debunked! Trayvon's voice on 911 call pleading for his life? An abject lie! NOTHING that has come out about this case corroborates the wild claims of Team Trayvon. NONE!

411 Posted by: Nigel Sixsmith at March 29, 2012 10:16 AM (e8kgV) "Stand on the two feet please. Hey. How'd you like to have some fox ladies frisk your pants? 30 dolla. They are fine too. I've taken the liberty of stuffing one of my bidniss cards up under your ballsack. Call me and I'll set it up."

412 Vacations over the summer is bad enough, but how are the girls getting out of school for all these vacations? And do the spoiled rich kids at their frou-frou private school hate those two for being even more spoiled than the rest?

413 Since the police have no problem releasing the surveillance videos, why don't they release the close up stills of Zimmerman's injuries and get this over with?

414
Police coverup? No proof.
Charges of racism? Debunked!
Zimmerman as aggressor? Debunked!
Trayvon's voice on 911 call pleading for his life? An abject lie!

NOTHING that has come out about this case corroborates the wild claims of Team Trayvon. NONE!

Posted by: Lock Step at March 29, 2012 10:19 AM (giXh5)

Yet they're still as angry as ever, if not more so.  Which is why this won't end well if Zimmerman isn't charged, and that's pretty likely.  I get the impression some people are just looking for a reason to riot.

415

I get the impression some people are just looking for a reason to riot.

 

 

This is not new.

416 Vacations over the summer is bad enough, but how are the girls getting out of school for all these vacations?

Hey, who knew?  Everyone's education is as important to the SCOAMT as that of his own children.  It just turns out that's a really, really low bar to set.

417 Did you all see the story about Jeremy Lin taking the reporter who lost his job over that "chink in the armor" comment, out to lunch?

Very impressive young man.

http://bit.ly/HhmAMO

418 Jenny, a chest wound from a small caliber round doesn't bleed that much. Martin was actually very unlucky to die from a single bullet. Remember Giffords was shot in the head (many times more likely to be fatal) and survived. Internal bleeding in the chest cavity from a heart puncture is usually what happens. Two things that TV dramas have over emphasized. How loud a gunshot is, and how much bleeding there is. Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 29, 2012 10:19 AM (eCYIY) Thanks! Apparently I'm an idiot for never having seen anyone shot in front of me.

419

"There are logical common-sense answers. We can dispense with them and move on"

 

It's the refusal to move on when presented with those answers that defines a troll.

420 I get the impression some people are just looking for a reason to riot.

They're not looking for a reason.  They're looking for an excuse.

421 spent $200 on Steaks, frozen lobster tails, etc with their Independence cards Eating is a personal responsibility.

422 IN the real world, you can be knocked out cold and not have a scratch on you.
IN the movie world, it takes repeated massive blows to knock out the hero while underling henchmen can be knocked out with a single hit.

Fact is, we're seeing the birth of a new Known Truth here, as was long-ago discussed here: Truths that have no basis in fact but fit the narrative so they must be true.

423 Re: the scum Rosenburgs, had a university professor no less try to tell us there was no evidence of their guilt. I asked about the Verona tapes. Stutter, stammer, "well, the authenticity of those tape are in question."

Posted by: Jimmuy at March 29, 2012 09:52 AM (kSaUf)




What pisses me off is how it's all labeled part of a Red Scare and paranoia over communism. If they and others were actually working for the USSR to undermine the country then it wasn't paranoia it was a real threat to the nation. Red Scare my ass. They were on the Kremlin's payroll

424 So this new-found call for personal responsibility, does it apply to food stamps? Housing stipends? Power bill assistance? School lunches? Free cell phones?

425 412 Vacations over the summer is bad enough, but how are the girls getting out of school for all these vacations? And do the spoiled rich kids at their frou-frou private school hate those two for being even more spoiled than the rest?

 

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at March 29, 2012 10:20 AM (MyByM)

 

It's very likely that the girls' school is on spring break (formerly known as "Easter Break" before progressives decided it was evil).   I can't recall the name of their school or I'd check the website for a vacation schedule (provided such a ritzy place would post something like that).

426 jenny .....no you are not an idiot for never having seen anyone die in front of you.......that wasn't even on the list of why you are an idiot.......

427 "The fact that he reached out to me," Federico said. "The fact that he took the time to meet with me in his insanely busy schedule. . . . He's just a wonderful, humble person. He didn't have to do that.""We talked more about matters of faith [and] reconciliation. We talked about our shared Christian values and what we're both trying do with this situation. . . . We didn't talk about the headline for more than three minutes."

428 It's very likely that the girls' school is on spring break



Except Spring Break apparently has already passed, since that's when Malia took her hushed-up trip to Mexico.

429

Fact is, we're seeing the birth of a new Known Truth here, as was long-ago discussed here: Truths that have no basis in fact but fit the narrative so they must be true.

 

Posted by: Jimmuy at March 29, 2012 10:23 AM (kSaUf)

 

Richard Fernandez over at PJM has a great column about this very thing.   It's a good read.

 

The Secret Chord: http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/the-secret-chord/

430 Why would they let him change his clothes?" She's making up her own 'facts'. Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2012 10:14 AM (X6akg) Those are questions, not facts. I'm not the one who suggested cops let Zimmerman change his clothes; EoJ said maybe he changed, so I asked why they would let him do that. Also, Independence is a hilarious name for a SNAP card. In TX, though, they're called Lone Star which is also dumb.

431 416 Vacations over the summer is bad enough, but how are the girls getting out of school for all these vacations?

Hey, who knew? Everyone's education is as important to the SCOAMT as that of his own children. It just turns out that's a really, really low bar to set.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 29, 2012 10:22 AM (8y9MW)

They are on spring break this week.  The Mexico trip was out of school.

But hey, for $34,000 what do you expect?

http://www.sidwell.edu/calendars/month.aspx

432 I thought of that, MWR, but Easter break is also usually only a week. Wasn't Malia in Mexico over Easter break? Shouldn't school be back in session?

433 Personal responsibility is your responsibility to pay for my free shit

434

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 29, 2012 10:12 AM (eCYIY)

(Re: Obama vacations)

 

You know, if I can't win the megamillions jackpot my goal is to become president so I can live like a .01%-er while complaining about the "1%" having too much wealth.  It's every liberal's dream, why can't it be mine too!

 

(Side note: I've been to Hawaii precisely once, for my honeymoon, the wife and I want to go back but can't figure out how to make it work money wise, life is tough, sadly the Obama girls will never have to learn this, because it's made me a better person).

435 LOL, Laura Ingraham and Col. Allen West were just discussing him wearing a U of Tennessee hoodie-footie in response to Bobby Rush's hoodie.

436 A real man would have his mother in the room during conception . . . .

437 Thanks, hedgehog. Still means there was travel while school was in session. Hopefully like someone above said, it means they know they're out on their asses soon so they're taking all the advantages they can now.

438 Hmm, this flight is full of liberals. I should stand up and yell "Zimmerman is innocent!" It's a Moron thing to do.

439 Oh shit, I just remembered, today is the 12th anniversary of my daughter's conception.  I only remember this because this would be mom's birthday and the wife and I laughed when we realized that I knocked her up on the 29th.

Oh yeah, and mom wasn't in the room...

440

Except Spring Break apparently has already passed, since that's when Malia took her hushed-up trip to Mexico.

 

Posted by: mama winger at March 29, 2012 10:27 AM (P6QsQ)

 

I'm fairly certain I read somewhere that the Mexico trip was a school activity unrelated to the actual vacation break.   Sort of like a "senior class trip" in a regular high school, but longer and   in a more exotic locale.

441 437 Thanks, hedgehog. Still means there was travel while school was in session. Hopefully like someone above said, it means they know they're out on their asses soon so they're taking all the advantages they can now.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at March 29, 2012 10:30 AM (MyByM)

I swear these people are treating the White House like it is their own reality TV show.  Can't wait to show them the door...

442 Do you prefer your scarlett T in Rockwell Extra Bold font or in Wide Latin??

Posted by: dananjcon at March 29, 2012 10:14 AM (8ieXv)

***********

Somehow, Comic Sans strikes me as appropriate for jenny....

443 Gimme the illegal shit you've got in the back.

It's the giggling Jeff.  That will wreck the deal every time.  And the no pants.

444

Mornin ya'll. ....Happy Thor's-day.

 

AllenG....read your blog post. ....I agree about the JEF being a tyrant. Calling him a 'miserable failure' is just not strong enough, since he has his own agenda....an agenda which obviously does not include anything that is truly beneficial to this country. .....And being an elected official, and not a monarch who inherited his power by birth....the JEF's tyranny is even worse than King George's, imho.

445 Tweet from Trayvon Martin

Martin, tweeting under an earlier screen name: 'Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!'

446

That's right Jenny. I also said it was supposition.

 

What I did not do is refuse to understand simple concepts like the passage of time and medical treatment and their effect on scalp lacerations.

 

Or toss out my lack of common sense and life experience as evidence that the police and witnesses statements "don't make sense."

 

You're somewhere on the spectrum from retarded to naive to troll.  Naive can be kinda hot, depending on your cup size / waist size ratio.

 

 

447 I'm fairly certain I read somewhere that the Mexico trip was a school activity unrelated to the actual vacation break. Sort of like a "senior class trip" in a regular high school, but longer and in a more exotic locale.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at March 29, 2012 10:32 AM (4df7R)

Oh, that could be. 

448 I'm fairly certain I read somewhere that the Mexico
trip was a school activity unrelated to the actual vacation break. Sort
of like a "senior class trip" in a regular high school, but longer and
in a more exotic locale.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at March 29, 2012 10:32 AM (4df7R)


I thought I read it wasn't a school trip.  And if it was, reports said she went with '12 of her friends'.  If it was a 'senior class trip' wouldn't there be more of them?

449 I thought I read it wasn't a school trip. And if it was, reports said she went with '12 of her friends'. If it was a 'senior class trip' wouldn't there be more of them? Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2012 10:40 AM (X6akg) Maybe the rest of the class had parents who said "What? Spring Break is next week, you can go on vacation then! What am I paying for, school or a travel agent?"

450 But it has me wondering.....why is there no timestamp on the police video? Is that usual?
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Timestamps? Have you seen Strange Brew?

451 413 Since the police have no problem releasing the surveillance videos, why don't they release the close up stills of Zimmerman's injuries and get this over with? ----------------------------------- I have no proof, but I don't think Sanford PD released that video. They have no interest trying this case in the public sphere. But you know who does? The US Justice Dept. They have been in Sanford for some time now, and my guess is they have access to all the evidence in this case. Think about it.

452 Maybe the rest of the class had parents who said "What? Spring Break is next week, you can go on vacation then! What am I paying for, school or a travel agent?"

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at March 29, 2012 10:42 AM (snRY5)

Sidwell Friends is where the uber-rich in DC send their kids.  They all get in to whatever colleges they want and I doubt that their parents give a shit when they go on vacation.

453 And do the spoiled rich kids at their frou-frou private school hate those two for being even more spoiled than the rest? Well, they hated them, sure, but then got a free trip to Mexico with all the tamales they could eat of it so . . .

454

I thought I read it wasn't a school trip. And if it was, reports said she went with '12 of her friends'. If it was a 'senior class trip' wouldn't there be more of them?

 

Posted by: Tami at March 29, 2012 10:40 AM (X6akg)

 

I said LIKE a senior class trip, not one exactly.  Just in the sense that it was a school trip that involved schoolchildren taking a trip on school time.  Possibly it was her Spanish-language class, or her Geography class.  No idea.  But I'm certain I read it was a school trip. 

455 Scruggs' test with an apostrophe.

456 Yes, the apostrophe beats the bullshit pixy spam filter.

457 Two things that TV dramas have over emphasized. How loud a gunshot is, and how much bleeding there is.
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I shot a bull elk years ago with a .30-06 at about 40 yard. Accidentally had 150 grain bullets. Behind the shoulder blade but missed the heart. Had to track him over 3/4 a mile. Would catch splatters of blood smaller than your fingernail every 10-20 feet. When I gutted him out, pulled out double handful chunks of coagulated blood--all that blood inside but less than two cups probably leaked out. 

I don't think we've been told what caliber of gun nor the grain of bullet so, I don't know how comparable this story is except to say nature designed her animals to NOT leak blood.

458 Sidwell Friends is where the uber-rich in DC send their kids.

While stopping vouchers or anything else that would get regular kids out of the DC schools where even the DC cops are not safe.

459 The hell with vouchers. Just more 'free' shit.

460 no signs of a beating?

must be all the witness's were on acid and having  mass hallucinations

461

the jennytroll-

it has the feel of many other trolls, but does show flashes of innovation in trolling. I find this interesting.

However, I defer to E of Jeff's opinion in this matter.

 

462 >>Possibly it was her Spanish-language class, or her Geography class.

Shit, if they wanted to talk in Spanish with native speakers, they could have taken a trip to rural Iowa.

463 BTW, it's Venona with an N and not Verona.

464 463 >>Possibly it was her Spanish-language class, or her Geography class.

Shit, if they wanted to talk in Spanish with native speakers, they could have taken a trip to rural Iowa.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at March 29, 2012 11:15 AM (ZKzrr)

Montgomery County MD is filled with Mexican, Guatemalan and Salvadoran illegals.  They could have just taken them to the Rockville Home Depot in the morning and struck up a conversation.  The Secret Service would have to weed out the ms-13 members first...

465 And I've read the school trip involved sites of Indian ruins.

466 Someone posted earlier that Moochelle and daughters would be ready for another expensive vacation trip soon. Well, already happening Mt Rushmore then Vegas.

http://is.gd/135ka1

467 "why don't they release the close up stills of Zimmerman's injuries and get this over with?"

They have a backlog of requests for Bigfoot videos to deal with first.

468 Where's the slow news day Gorn?

469

Re: the scum Rosenburgs, had a university professor no less try to tell us there was no evidence of their guilt. I asked about the Verona tapes.  Stutter, stammer, "well, the authenticity of those tape are in question."

Posted by: Jimmuy at March 29, 2012 09:52 AM (kSaUf)

 

Actually, they're not tapes, they're decryptions of intercepted Soviet diplomatic cables sent to Moscow.

 

And as for the Rosenberg's guilt, Morton Sobel, a member of the ring who did time in Alcatraz, a few years back admitted they were all guilty as sin. (Guess he was a paranoid right-winger too.) Even the Rosenbergs' kids accepted their guilt then (IIRC).

470

469 Where's the slow news day Gorn?

 

Linky in my name. .....What the Son of The One would really look like. Heh.

471 457 Yes, the apostrophe beats the bullshit pixy spam filter.   -----------   Apparently, we're supposed to be talking about the juggs' Pamela Geller, instead of the other way around.
 

472

It's all a question of who is the master.

 

473 $175k to cheer up Department of Energy and Climate Change staff

THEY are responsible for some of the government's most important policies - but staff at the Department of Energy and Climate Change are too ashamed to admit where they work.

Staff morale is so low the government has spent almost $175,000 on consultants to lift staff's flagging spirits.

A negative public image of the department, changing environmental policies and lack o

474 I haven't heard/seen "shit can" since I left the USN - you a vet/active duty Nevergiveup?

475 >>>Even the Rosenbergs' kids accepted their guilt then (IIRC). Posted by: Jay Guevara Yes and no. At first they couldn't deny it but now that they have had a chance to regroup, they are inventing new theories/new excuses. By the time of their trial, the Rosenbergs had to be aware of all the purges/murders by Stalin. Yet, they chose to die as martyrs to this mass murderer.

476 As to bruising on Martin's hands: the funeral director is saying he saw none. However, he is not a forensic pathologist. When your heart stops beating, you will get little seepage from broken capillaries. They have to perform microscopic tissue examination to detect it. As to Martin's blood on Zimmerman's clothes, there may be a small amount. If you want to see a large amount of blow back as a result of a shotgun blast at close range, watch Into the Abyss. It's actually pretty sickening. Poor woman was making cookies when little angel face teenagers knocked on her door and brutally murderer her.

477

1. It is not the job of law enforcement to announce their suppositions regarding an ongoing investigation and release evidence to the public at this time.

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2. It is the job of the public to remain calm, not jump to conclusions and let the process take place.

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3. People get killed every day. Why is this homicide getting all the attention? Because some people wish to use it for political gain.

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4. Didn't you people ever watch Columbo? Read Sherlock Holmes stories?

Watch Court TV? Things are not always as they seem at first.

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5. Shaddup. 

478 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

479

India on March 28, from Poole's

success chang (Chandipur) test test

of "blah moss" Seattle cruise

missiles, it is by the army of the

user part of the experiment.

Missiles with a range of 290 km, can

carry 200-300 kilograms of

conventional warheads, from mobile

launching ground launch device. This

type of "blah moss" missile is army

type missile face to face, two level

structure, the first level for solid

fuel, the second the use of liquid

propellant stamping jet engine. The

empty shoot model and submarine-

based models in the works.

Indian defense ministry has approved

the army to three group equipment

missile system plan. Now the "blah

moss" has been equipped with two

army regiment.