1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Tuesday, March 6, 2012.  On this day in 1836 the Alamo fell to General Santa Anna of Mexico.  The battle cost him much time and many troops.  This ultimately contributed to his defeat and San Jacinto and the birth of Texas. The Alamo is maintained by the Daughters of The Republic of Texas.  There have been many efforts to strip that authority in recent years, but thanks to some good guys, control and maintenance remains out of government hands.  You will hear and read many revisionist stories about the Alamo.   Piss on them and the assholes telling those stories.

The Alamo as it existed in the early 1900s.

http://is.gd/bWPhYN


The Alamo as it exists today surrounded by San Antonio.

http://is.gd/ENOFuT

2 Of course everyone knows that today is Super Tuesday.

http://is.gd/geH8bC

3 Shannon Bream is may look good but she is really dumb.  She thinks there is a good chance Scalia will vote with Obama on the Obamacare case.  She bases that on the medical marijuana case (Gonzales v. Raich) in which he referenced the "necessary and proper clause while the ruling itself delved all the way back to the depression area case that allowed commerce to include animal feed that never left the farm (Wickard v. Filburn 1942).  This is one of the worst legal rulings in the history of the Supreme Court and it is directly responsible for the explosion of the commerce clause.  This ruling came down only because FDR was successful in packing the court with commies in black robes.

But back to Bream's analysis.  She has missed the point. Gonzales v Raich didn't show Scalia as a swing justice.  It showed him as an "outcomist", just like the liberal wing, only on the conservative anti-drug side.  Before this case students of the court considered him a textualist.  He is not.  He lost some luster in my eyes on the day of that ruling.  It is not the job of the Supreme Court to assure that rulings are "good for the country" or fair.  It is the job of the court to assure that rulings are done in accordance with exactly how the Constitution is written, no more, no less.  

So in the end, Obamacare will come down to Kennedy who is the "swing" justice now and whether he is mad at Scalia the day he makes up his mind on the ruling. (See Supreme Conflict by Jan Crawford Greenberg and she looks just as good as Shannon Bream)

http://is.gd/O8ofJt

4 I posted this yesterday in another thread in the afternoon and many of the Morons may have missed it.  Fed Judge rules MD gun control law unconstitutional. Rules that gun owners do not need to provide a "justification" for owning a gun.  (that law has to be really stupid)  Note that this is not an appellate judge, but it does fall within his authority because it uses prior Supreme Court rulings and does not generate new rulings.

http://is.gd/4rQuU0

5 Sales of storm shelters on the rise.  If I lived in tornado alley you can bet that I would have a tornado shelter either close by the house or in a basement in the house.  I have even thought about building one here even though we do not see that many tornados.  During Hugo I did have one come through my neighborhood.

http://is.gd/ZUWGRy

6 Idiot McShame wants us in another war while O'Surrender is President.  Of course "we have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency".  Why o why could AZ not come up with a decent opposition candidate for this worthless SOB.  I smell the meddling of a shitty State party and the "establishment".

http://is.gd/awChJZ

7 Corrupt AG Holder laid out his legal "justification" for executing citizens overseas. Here is the key paragraph in this story:

Quote

Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday said the Obama administration has the "clear authority" to kill U.S. citizens overseas who are believed to be a terrorist threat.

"Given the nature of how terrorists act and where they tend to hide, it may not always be feasible to capture a United States citizen terrorist who presents an imminent threat of violent attack," Holder said. "In that case, our government has the clear authority to defend the United States with lethal force."

End quote

I have no problem with the second paragraph, with the exception of "imminent" which is too vague. The problem lies in the first paragraph with this part "who are believed to be a terrorist threat".  That is NOT application of due process and it is a hole big enough to drive a Mack truck through. Who determines "believed"?  There needs to be a lot more that "belief" when deciding to kill a citizen. And it needs to be independently reviewed from outside the executive department. "Imminent threat" is not enough to execute someone. This should be changed to "imminent attack" and it too needs to be independently reviewed.

If GWB had come up with this the liberals would have been screaming from the roof tops.  Hell look how much they bitched about reviewing library checkout records which they could already do.  Here we are talking about killing someone without a trial and the press is virtually ignoring it.

Talk about double standards eh?

http://is.gd/JnNaTb

8
Former Governor Angus King to run for the Snowe seat?  But here are a couple of telling quotes:

Quote:

A popular two-term governor and professor at Bowdoin College, King has a history of working with both parties and a demonstrated appeal to the state's large swath of independent voters

Interpretation

He is a liberal

Quote:

Snowe, a popular centrist Republican, had been positioned to easily win another term in November, but announced last week she would not run again......
 
Interpretation

Hahahahhaha, "centrist Republican" in MFM speak means one who votes with Democrats more than Republicans, as Snowe does. It would be nice if we had A Democrat who voted with Republicans more than Dems to see what they would call them.  But they do call some of them "moderates" and "Blue Dogs".  Those are ones who occasionally vote for a bill that opposes tax increases or excessive spending when their vote doesn't matter.

Quote:

If King wins, he will face the choice of which party's caucus to join. He could choose to caucus with whichever party is more closely aligned with his agenda, and Republicans speculated he would probably caucus with Democrats. Two independents - Sens. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) and Bernie Sanders (Vt.) - currently caucus with the Democrats.

Interpretation

Bernie Sanders is not an independent.  He is an avowed Communist.  Why does the MFM continue to ignore this?

http://is.gd/5VkFsI

9 Ethics probe of CBC member gets hit with the race card.  Did they expect anything any different?  But in the end this guy has nothing to worry about.  He is protected by that super dense substance that no probe, ethics or criminal can penetrate.  And that doesn't even take into account that the chief purpose of the ethics committee is to white wash the charges against all members.

http://is.gd/b6P2qG

10 For the discerning Moron with nothing to spend his money on.  A new issue by Lamborghini.  It has a top speed of 200 mph and no top.  No price given as they are only making one of these.  I suppose if they do sell it, it will be a bidding war that could reach in the millions.

http://is.gd/bzZdeY

11 Olinsky play tape not to be released. In addition, they say Obama only "attended"  which is obviously a lie given the other evidence.

http://is.gd/Q6euuH

12 Democrats see no business that can not be excessively regulated. Democrat Rep Robert Williams want ALL South Carolina businesses to be forced to open theirt private restrooms to customers.   Now that "sounds" pretty benign right, and who opposes letting people go to the restrooms?  Well, the problem is first it will make restroom cleanup a huge expense, and second it opens the store to a massive increase in regulation/inspections by DEHEC and the Dept of Health. In  short, huge increase in expenses.  Of course Dems never heard of the law of unintended consequences.

http://is.gd/WK7He7

13 Picture here of South Carolina jackals tearing at the corpse of the badly mangled taxpayer in getting "their own" from the bull shit Pigford fraud. And BB was attacked over his attack on this bull shit.

http://is.gd/vBdg0C

14 MO Democrat scrunt goes full retard on birth control debate.  Wants to restrict vasectomies.  Of course the MFM will call her names and make light of this right?  Hahahahahahaha

http://is.gd/K3zwjP

15 Ovomit to hold news conference today telling how he is going to give away some more taxpayer money.  Can't allow the Repukes to have a big day in the news w/o putting his ugly shithead face on TV.  They have the gall to call this the first news conference of the year.  The SOB has been on TV just about every damn day.

http://is.gd/gEpXDj

16 And that's it for the news this morning.  May be bailing out this morning for rocking chair.

17 Does insurance pay for vasectomies? Whatev, get rid of it if it IS covered by insurance. Get rid of it yesterday.

18 I would love to sign that petition, but there is no way in hell that I am going to create a whitehouse.gov account for the amusement value.

Maybe through a proxy.

19 FFS, these talking head propagandists can't stop asking, "how are women reacting to the Republican candidates assault on women's rights?" The only political party that is making this an issue are the Obama commiecrats! At least Pravda's staff had an excuse, what's theirs? Nothing but a bunch of political star fuckers.

20 Candlelight vigil in front of the Canuckistanian Consulate here in Lost Angels Wednesday night to protest tar sands oil production...

of course, candles are usually made of paraffin, which is made from oil.

stupid, even by LA standards.  the fact that the consulate will be closed at 7pm is just icing on the cake.  be there or be somewhere else.

https://www.facebook.com/events/403713832975685/

21 Posted by: Vic at March 06, 2012 06:37 AM (YdQQY)

Yet the recent "scientific" paper about "post-birth abortion" was greeted with a yawn by the MBM.

22 If you're a liberal woman, good luck getting in my pants. Unintended consequences baby!

23 Posted by: Vic at March 06, 2012 06:35 AM (YdQQY)

I believe that there is an imminent threat from the domestic terrorist who calls himself "Vic." He is a shadowy personality who has never been seen, yet his writings are clearly antithetical to the continued existence of the United States, and the reign of Lord Obama the 1st.

Therefore in this directive I authorize the use of deadly force to end the sedition that that Mr. "Vic" is so clearly suggesting in his writings.

24 This ridiculous Fluke non-issue will be forgotten in a month.  She's just auditioning for a role at MSNBC.  Hey, today is Super Tuesday!  Back to what's important, and probably the beginning of the end.  Time to warm up the fat lady ... http://bit.ly/qVdDUt

25 As an Indonesian, I define 'overseas' to be anywhere in the Western Hemisphere.

26 FFS, these talking head propagandists can't stop asking, "how are women reacting to the Republican candidates assault on women's rights?" The only political party that is making this an issue are the Obama commiecrats!

Not true! This is a very important issue!

27 I would love to sign that petition, but there is no way in hell that I am going to create a whitehouse.gov account for the amusement value.

Maybe through a proxy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
.............
My thoughts exactly..

28 Therefore in this directive I authorize the use of deadly force to end the sedition that that Mr. "Vic" is so clearly suggesting in his writings.
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Read Enemies Foreign and Domestic that was referenced on the Sunday Book thread.  This novel actually goes to that extent. It was free on Amazon for the Kindle, but now it is back to $7 unless you are a Prime member. If you are a prime you can still get it free.

29 Don't believe we live in a theocracy? 7 of the 9 SCOTUS justices are Roman catholic.

30 Mornin' morons/ettes.  It's a frightening commentary on the ruling regime that people are genuinely concerned about putting their name on a whitehouse.gov petition. 

31 Vic mentioned Storm Shelters. Mike Malloy thinks for the folks involved they're probably not necessary - http://youtu.be/44hU4pVaV4g

Gotta love those compassionate progressives.

32 does anyone else have a fear of registering at WhiteHouse.gov to sign that petition. Should we EVER fear that?

33 'sup jackwagons. If you Morning Morons haven't done so, go read about the ongoing SoS vs Che T-Shirt Boy saga in the ONT. Epic stuff.

34 #20

It's not a baby...it's only a potential baby.

35 Another way of viewing the monumentally important contraception issue of 2012, since the Dems created it, is that they need some sort of divisive stand to make that will shore up their usual lead in women's votes. They are bleeding constituencies. The only way they get this one back is if we give in to their narrative, which is to say we're mean to women. Don't do that. Stand up and let them know that free birth control is NOT a women's issue. And it's condescending to women to pretend it is.

36 If you Morning Morons haven't done so, go read about the ongoing SoS vs Che T-Shirt Boy saga in the ONT. Epic stuff.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 06, 2012 07:18 AM (LrDq9)

 

 

SoS is now my hero.  He has some big ol' steelies for sure.  His completely pwning the HR twerp was epic.

37 And they say conservatives don't have a sense of humor...How about getting the government to fund a museum of government waste...
http://tinyurl.com/7ccapu2

38 Format fail. Dang.

39 Shannon Bream is may look good but she is really dumb.

Doesn't matter.  Shannon Bream is more than hot enough to make up for it.

40 #1; thank you for the reminder, Vic

#2: iowahawk has some big stones!

41

I'm thinking we should flood that White House.gov site with signatures. It's time to show them that there are plenty of us who resist. There are no legal grounds for any recriminations of any type against anyone who signs it. We still have the Constitution on our side and plenty of people willing to help us.

 

WWBD?

42 Thisridiculous Fluke non-issue will beforgotten in a month. She's just auditioning for a role at MSNBC. 

Posted by: ombudizen at March 06, 2012 07:02 AM (2DpoY)

BTW, my name is pronounced "Fred Waterman".  The "u" is silent.

43 Some guy saying he was taking a poll called last night. Asked me if I were voting for Ron Paul or Mitt Romney. I laughed and told him Mitt because I was neither nuts nor a pot-head. He said he was actually working on Mitt's campaign.

44 27 I would love to sign that petition, but there is no
way in hell that I am going to create a whitehouse.gov account for the
amusement value.

Maybe through a proxy.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
.............
My thoughts exactly..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 06, 2012 07:07 AM (UTq/I)

 

That's what I did immediately. It never occured to me to do otherwise. I was signee 27.

45 @35 It's primarily about fundraising. Giving to the Dem/President coffers has been far below average. They needed to create a boogeyman/threat to wip up concern in the ranks of the insane/typical lib voter.

46 The only way they get this one back is if we give in to their narrative, which is to say we're mean to women. Don't do that. Stand up and let them know that free birth control is NOT a women's issue. And it's condescending to women to pretend it is.
Yes! We're not mean to women, we just want sluts to have bastard kids as a warning to other women.

47 Morning all! Vic you are not exactly correct about the Daughters of the Republic. Seems they have so screwed up their finances that the state is "overseeing" them and the Alamo now. They are starting to talk about charging tour groups fees to go through the Alamo. Sad times.

48 Seems they have so screwed up their finances that the state is "overseeing" them and the Alamo now.
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They are still claiming to be in charge at their site.  So maybe they are maybe they aren't.

Even if they are not I would still credit them with the efforts for preservation.

49 They are starting to talk about charging tour groups fees to go through the Alamo. Sad times.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at March 06, 2012 07:35 AM (oqK1o)

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My wife was just there last year for a family reunion and I thought she paid a fee. I'll have to ask her when she gets up.

I think a fee would be equitable to help maintain the place.

50 rt.com

Leaked: Bin Laden not buried at sea, body moved on CIA plane to US

51 http://tinyurl.com/6wbmyxq Well, they technically have oversight, but the state of Texas has now horned into the picture. See the attached press release. Everyone was "happy" about it, but it is the beginning of the end. Yeah, a fee isn't a bad thing really, just sad to see - the times they are a changing.

52 @46 It's really about getting ahead of this issue and explaining it, which I believe only Newt could possibly do. The issue is not about access to contraception or access to birth control, woman have free and unfettered access to any and all contraception available on the market. The issues is who pays, that is it.

53 If Bush said what Holder said about killing American terrorists there would be nonstop talk in the MSM about American assassination squads.

54 Who determines "believed"?
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Funny, that coming from Holder whose defense against a lie under oath depends upon which fleeting thought passed through his mind as the words passed through his lips -- no thanks to what "is" is.

55 Well, they technically have oversight, but the state of Texas has now horned into the picture.
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I guess as long as TX has good non-RINO Republican governors it will be OK.  But I would not trust a sacred shrine like the Alamo to Democrats who would turn it into a damn PC exhibition of bull shit in short order.

Just look at what they did to Monticello vs the Jefferson Cemetery. Monticello is the height of PC bullshit while the Cemetery remains true to its origins.

56 Super Tuesday, time to end our pain.

57 And that doesn't even take into account that the chief purpose of the ethics committee is to white wash the charges against all members.
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"racist"

58 Ari Fleischer has an interesting column on the CNN web site. He points out there is always a lag between presidential candidates and the issues of the day,  because they were bottled in a different time.  Our candidates today are out of sync because of the rapid rise of the Tea Party.  I think that is an interesting point of view.

http://tinyurl.com/7em9rqp

59 How about the Shannon Bream article. Do any of the Morons think there is a realistic chance that Scalia will vote with the libtards?

60 #5  This is why my husband has always insisted we have a basement.  He is from the Kansas City area.

And I have,  over the course of the last 30 years,  headed to the basement here about 20 times.

61 Our candidates today are out of sync because of the rapid rise of the Tea Party. I think that is an interesting point of view.

http://tinyurl.com/7em9rqp

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 06, 2012 07:53 AM (GoIUi)

Our candidates are out-of-sync because they're idiots and cowards.

How about the Shannon Bream article. Do any of the Morons think there is a realistic chance that Scalia will vote with the libtards?

Posted by: Vic at March 06, 2012 07:53 AM (YdQQY)

There is no chance in Hell that Scalia would ever vote for ObamaCare.  NONE.

62 McLovin, you must be a godless libertarian, or maybe a Protestant.This is not about money.

63 @58 The last time I can remember, access to contraception being an issue was sometime in the mid 80's. Woman have absolute and unfettered access to any and all contraceptive methods on the market today. Ari Fleischer was a horrible press secretary.

64 30 Mornin' morons/ettes. It's a frightening commentary on the ruling regime that people are genuinely concerned about putting their name on a whitehouse.gov petition.

Yes.  Otherwise I'd have signed it.

65 Basements are rare in my area.  Usually you see them in tornado prone areas or in areas where property values reflect a need to build up and down vs horizontal.

Property values are generally low in this area unless they are at the beach or on a lake.

66 "Mitt can turn things around" voters never turn down a fucker.

Bad omen, Super Tuesday falling with commemoration of the Alamo.

67 #63  No,  Scott McLellan was a horrible press secretary.  Tony Snow was a brilliant press secretary.  Ari was better than average,  if you remember people like Mike McCurry.

68 Ari Fleischer was a horrible press secretary.
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Not only that, but didn't he turn traitor?

69 #61  Well,  the candidates at least had enough bravery to RUN.   I didn't notice a whole bunch of perfect conservatives stepping forward.

Always with the negative,  Moriarity.

70 How many Texans died at the Alamo?

71 I got Mitt winning five of nine today, that should wrap this up.

72 #68  I have no idea what you are talking about.  He left towards the end of Bush's first term and went into private business.

73 San Antonio Rose (one of my favorite songs BTW):


Wifey says she paid but it wasn't a fee.  It was a voluntary donation.

74 How many Texansdied at the Alamo?
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Something on the order of about 250 I believe.

75 #68 I have no idea what you are talking about. He left towards the end of Bush's first term and went into private business.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 06, 2012 08:03 AM (GoIUi)

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Wasn't he the one who wrote one of those BS tell-all books after he left?

76 I would love to sign that petition, but there is no
way in hell that I am going to create a whitehouse.gov account for the
amusement value.

Maybe through a proxy.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
.............
My thoughts exactly..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 06, 2012 07:07 AM (UTq/I)

If you post here - they already have all your information - too late to protect your ID.

77

I'm there.  Already almost 900 votes.

78 OK, checked, that was Scott McClellon. He was the traitor.

79

How was Ari Fleischer a horrible Press Sec? I was very impressed with him. He was completely unflappable and cool under fire. Under hostile hectoring from the doucheiest collection of fucknozzles on the planet he had perfect recall of Bush's policy positions and speeches, quoting them verbatim weeks or months later to parry mischaracterizations or outright misquotes.

 

He was the best Press Sec Bush had.  Including Tony Snow. He owned those conferences.

80 Vic, I should have asked how many were from Texas. The records show only about ten and eight of those were Mexicans from Juan Sequins command that fought at the battle of Bexar.

81 #68 Traitor?

Witnessed against Scooter Libby in Plame Affair. Worked for Komen/Planned Parenthood, "They're a charity I believe in."

Ari Fleischer Sports Communications consults for NFL, Canadian PM Stephen Harper, Mark McGwire and Tiger Woods.

82 All you smart military bloggers should check out the story of PFC Carrasco who served (and paid the ultimate price) in the Korean War. While fighting, he and several other soldiers became involved in a film project that used real soldiers. I'll let warchick complete PFC Carrasco's story "FORGOTTEN WARRIOR" http://americaswarchick.blogspot.com/ Heart wrenching and inspiring stuff.

83 I thought Fluke rhymed with Luke but it is now being pronounced to rhymed with fuck.

84 I visit the Alamo as often as I can. I like to stand in the (now wooded) courtyard and imagine 250 Texans walking accoss a line in the sand to stand and fight and ultimately die.

Plus I use Texas Independence to always remember the Atomic weight of an electron

85 Shannon Bream is my favorite Fox fox.  The really pretty girl-next-door thing.

I don't think she is dumb.  She is not an analyst.  She just reads the news from the teleprompter.  Her producer might have put her up to it.

No friggin' way Scalia upholds Obamacare.

Go to yahoo and create yourself another email address.  Link it to NOTHING (e.g. Facebook)  Sign the petition on whitehouse.gov.

86 Wasn't he the one who wrote one of those BS tell-all books after he left?

Posted by: Vic at March 06, 2012 08:06 AM (YdQQY)

No.  That was that twerp McClellan.

87 84 The remarkable thing is they knew the odds as the battle had been going on for days. My cousin who died in 1901 was the last courier to leave the Alamo with a dispatch for more troops, food and ammunition.

88 The Alamo website call them Texians and Tejanos.  It doesn't give a breakdown on the numbers.  It says there were about 200. I am not sure I wold trust most of the other write-ups.

http://is.gd/qGSfd8

89 Love the petition.  Don't need to add to O's enemies list.

90 18..oh, come on now...just create the account and have some fun with it.. in a sort of Alinsky-kind-of-way ;-)

91 Sweet. I'm 885

92 Velvet Ambition, referencing "Texians" and The Alamo, from wikipedia:

Santa Anna reportedly told Captain Fernando Urizza that the battle "was but a small affair". Another officer then remarked that "with another such victory as this, we'll go to the devil". In his initial report Santa Anna claimed that 600 Texians had been killed, with only 70 Mexican soldiers killed and 300 wounded. His secretary, Ramón Martínez Caro, later repudiated the report. Other estimates of the number of Mexican soldiers killed ranged from 60–2,000, with an additional 250–300 wounded. Most Alamo historians place the number of Mexican casualties at 400–600 Mexicans. This would represent about one-third of the Mexican soldiers involved in the final assault, which Todish remarks is "a tremendous casualty rate by any standards". Most eyewitnesses counted between 182–257 Texians killed. Some historians believe that at least one Texian, Henry Warnell, successfully escaped from the battle. Warnell died several months later of wounds incurred either during the final battle or during his escape as a courier.

Mexican soldiers were buried in the local cemetery, Campo Santo. Shortly after the battle, Colonel José Juan Sanchez Navarro proposed that a monument should be erected to the fallen Mexican soldiers. Cos rejected the idea.

The Texian bodies were stacked and burned. The only exception was the body of Gregorio Esparza. His brother Francisco, an officer in Santa Anna's army, received permission to give Gregorio a proper burial. The ashes were left where they fell until February 1837, when Juan Seguín returned to Béxar to examine the remains. A simple coffin inscribed with the names Travis, Crockett, and Bowie was filled with ashes from the funeral pyres.

93 If GWB had come up with this the liberals would have been screaming from the roof tops.

W blew up Anwar al-AwLaki 2 1/2 weeks after 9/11 and both wings of the bunched panty squad went nuts.  I'm pretty sure there's no passport checking attachment to the Reaper drones.

Executive -  Of, relating to, capable of, or suited for carrying out or executing:

94 Well, the candidates at least had enough bravery to RUN. I didn't notice a whole bunch of perfect conservatives stepping forward.

Posted by: Miss Marple at March 06, 2012 08:02 AM (GoIUi)

These candidates have enough courage to run but not nearly enough courage to actually hold to a conservative line.

Sorry, but any lingering optimism I might have was beaten out of me in 2011 by the GOP Congress and leadershit.

95 @71 I think intrade has him at 7 out of 10.

96 You do realize that, by signing this petition I will have to create a WhiteHouse.gov account and will then automatically be considered a "dear friend and supporter" to the Obama administration (you think they actually read these things?) I don't think seven months of incessant spam begging me to give to Ear Leader to "stop the right wing hate machine" followed by years and years of unwanted fundraising spam from the MoveOn Greenpeace the People for the American Way are in Code Pink because Media Matters crowd once the Obama campaign sells their email list for a quick buck. Sorry, just aint worth it.

97 I would like to sign this but I am no Andrew Breibart. I am scared what will happen to me if the White House sees my name on this.

98 >>>Leaked: Bin Laden not buried at sea, body moved on CIA plane to US

Can we shove a pole up his ass and bring in the puppeteers?  Because I've got some great bits we act out for the howling masses.

99 98 There's a new Muppets Movie due for production.

100 #94   So,  you throw in the towel and decide no one's good enough.

My DOG would be better than Obama.  And that is what I am shooting for,  getting him out.  I have grandchildren I care about,  and I do not want Obama ruining their future.

Plus I am sick of seeing him on TV,  along with his obnoxious wife.

Good luck with looking for perfection in candidates.  I haven't seen one yet,  and I am 63.

101 Folks am retiring to the rockin chair. Will check in from time to time.

102 ((vic))

103 Miss Marple I love you posts!

104 37 plenty of gubmint storage facilities already.  Garage sales, taxable...

105 Thanks Vic.

106 When A-awlaki went bye bye the CIA should have just used Mossad's method of explanation - "Huh?"

The last think we need is a traitorous pimp like Holder justifying the commie/statist rationale for Big Brother acting in our behalf without consulting anyone.

Like he gives a shit about anything lawful anyway, what a farce.

W let the genie out of that bottle and these marxists are just pushing the envelope to be used for anything they want. 

107 "your"

108 Or you could create a yahoo mail account under a false name such as Heywood Jablomey, Phil McCracken, Ima Douche, Richard Scratcher, Harry Nips, Harry Cox, Jennifer Love Cox, Phillip McCrevis, Pak Mi Poo, Chin Mi Dong, Barney Frank, Hugh G. Rection, Big Ole Harry Scrotum, Mr. Balls, etc. etc.

109 "My DOG would be better than Obama."

My dog would be better than Mitt.

...my dog's better than your dog.../kennel rations

110

Posted by: Sean Paden at March 06, 2012 08:31 AM (NiyzK)

 

Go to gmail or hotmail or whereever from a roaming IP address, like starbucks. Open an email acct. Do not use your real name.  Remind me not to ever partner with any of you guys for a secret activity

111 used Mossad's method of explanation - "Huh?" ... W let the genie out of that bottle and these marxists are just pushing the envelope to be used for anything they want.
--
"Miss Me Yet? Huh?"

112 There is no enemies list. I am not a crook.
Don't Call My Bluff!

113 I have an awful feeling about Ohio. Awful.

Santorum signs....EVERYWHERE.

We're so very, very fucked.

114 I signed the petition and posted it to my Facebook page just as the White House suggested. I'm trying to help them get enough signatures to take up this important issue for the future of our country.

115 (((lacey)))

116 Across from my polling place was a Santorum sign. Next to it was a sign about 'saving the children from Planned Parenthood'.

Way to have the pulse of the country in mind, Ohio District 2 voters.

117 Thanks for the kickoff comments, Vic.  Beautiful pictures of a beautiful mission.

I voted this morning, bithcez.  I pulled the lever for Mitt, may God have mercy on my soul.  But there was a write-in open for County Commissioner.  And I wrote in SWEET METEOR OF DEATH, dammit.

But the ABSOLUTE BEST PART of voting this morning?  I found out that I AM NO LONGER IN OH-9!  Not having Marcy as my Congressman?  Priceless!!!

118 Hello, all!   I just signed up to WhiteHouse.gov and signed Iowahawk's petition.  I don't like giving the WH my info, but if       I     should     disappear in the middle of the night, at least everyone will know why.

119 Has anyone seen my IUD? 

120 117 I have an awful feeling about Ohio. Awful. Santorum signs....EVERYWHERE. We're so very, very fucked. Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 06, 2012 08:44 AM (pLTLS) Don't fret; momentum is on Mitt's side.

121 I am OK with Santorum winning Ohio.  It's no big deal either way.  When the big states start doing winner-take-all, that's when this gets interesting.

122 Santorum signs....EVERYWHERE.
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Birth Control? "I'll Attack China!" bravely from the Oval Office.

123

I just read the McFarlane/Breitbart article.  It's good, and it looks like McFarlane is a decent person, despite being a Hollywood lefty.  But the comments are kind of depressing.  It's depressing that a liberal that isn't a total douche scumbag is so rare that everyone is tripping over themselves to pat the guy on the back.

124 121 Across from my polling place was a Santorum sign. Next to it was a sign about 'saving the children from Planned Parenthood'. Way to have the pulse of the country in mind, Ohio District 2 voters. *** Yep, people don't want to talk about murdering babies. They want to hear about 54 point tax plans and debt ceiling votes.

125 124 Has anyone seen my IUD? Posted by: Sandra Fluksalot at March 06, 2012 08:49 AM (WUWb9) We all have!

126 @124:  Have you checked your rectum?  You know, next to your skull?

127 >"Miss Me Yet? Huh?"
Posted by: GWB at March 06, 2012 08:43 AM (lpWVn)

Ah, No.

Nice, patriotic, neighborly Christian man but a complete big government tool.

And I don't see Jeb as any kind of savior either. If we're going to go down in liberal Republican flames we can do it just as easily with Romney as another Bush.

128 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk

^^^

How does this conversation help us lower unemployment and gas prices?

129 Once Romney is the Rominee, he should have the Reverend Santorum locked up in a monastery somewhere out of the way until after Election Day, to finally get the topic changed away from birth control.

130 130 124 Has anyone seen my IUD?
Posted by: Sandra Fluksalot at March 06, 2012 08:49 AM (WUWb9)

We all have!

Posted by: The Munchkin Lollipop Guild at March 06, 2012 08:51 AM (Iaxlk)

 

Teeeeheeee.  I'm such a slut.

131 I have an awful feeling about Ohio. Awful.

Santorum signs....EVERYWHERE.

We're so very, very fucked.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 06, 2012 08:44 AM (pLTLS)

 

Yes we are fucked.  And because of Republicans, it won't be safe!

132  132. That's the plan.

133 133 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk ^^^ How does this conversation help us lower unemployment and gas prices? Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 06, 2012 08:52 AM (pLTLS) Better yet, how does it help defeat Obama, the pro-infanticide socialist President?

134

>>This is why my husband has always insisted we have a basement.

 

<Sigh>

135 Don't question my virginity!

136 How does this conversation help us lower unemployment and gas prices? *** How does lower gas prices stop the murder of children by a taxpayer funded organization?

137

I recenly had a discussion that very poor people on MEDICAID do not want obamacare because they already have good medical care. Why share? lol

138 I voted. I live in Fairfax which is very very Democrat. I was all alone at 750 am. Only Mitt and Ron Paul on the ticket. Mitt's going to win, I just didn't want Ron Paul thinking he's doing well.

139 I was all alone at 750 am.

^^^

I had the same experience. I think we're going to see a seriously depressed turnout in most of the states.

140 This one time, at band camp...oh, fluke it.

141 Sandra "Sexual Justice" Fluke

spread the [wealth] STD

142 How does lower gas prices stop the murder of children by a taxpayer funded organization? Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 06, 2012 08:56 AM (SsmZP) How will 5 more years of Obama stop the murder of children by a taxpayer funded organization, the destruction of the United States of America as a superpower, the rape of the American taxpayer, and decades of potential economic stagnation?

143 Posted by: Mama AJ, from a swamp in Tornado Alley

I thought of drainage concerns, too.

144 Worst economy since The Great Depression and we're talking about funding for Planned Parenthood.

Something tells me we're doing it wrong and that is not a winning general election strategy.

I thought the goal was to beat Obama but apparently I was mistaken - sorry.

145 @100: exactly!

 I will pull the lever in the gen for Romney just for the sheer hope of pleasure @ watching Ms Obama give Anne Romney the tour of the WH. And seeing Mr and Ms O sitting by while Romney is sworn in. I imagine some very sour pusses.

This is all we're left with, sadly. Spite and malice @ what these people have done. With most of America's blessing. Oh well.

146 Holy Carp the Instawife gets it on Rush's apology. I understand why he did it, but you've noticed it isn't getting him any points. They (the Left) smells weakness. Regardless, Rush has endured this before. He will survive it. And the Right will continue to be wusses in the face of it.

147 we are not one issue voters, all these things can be on the platform, however  the media will only allow discussions that benefit Obama. so the candidates need to keep that in mind , shorten  the discussion giving little to the media and speak of what Obamas groupies don't want said which is he fails at the economy, at being fiscally sound in any manner at all, or the hope that america can prosper at all under his watch and legislation.

148 #11  Is your dog running?  Nope.  Neither is mine.

So you will have to choose between Mitt and Obama.

Mitt doesn't hate the country.  There you go. Easy-peasy.

149 Better yet, how does it help defeat Obama, the pro-infanticide socialist President? *** Ah yes, the shut up about abortion and we will fix it later approach. I'm sorry, but I come from this crazy viewpoint the Republican Party is supposed to not be ashamed of its platform. I know, that guarantees our electoral Ruin for some reason. We're supposed to pretend we're Democrats who want low taxes, apparently. If we're not supposed to talk about abortion during a GOP primary, what the fuck makes you think anything is going to be done about it ever? And if you don't care, stop hiding behind the excuse that it's an electoral loser. Admit you align more closely with Democrats on that issue. Obviously winning strategy is focusing on procedural changes to spending. And nothing gives independents an erection like discussing obscure budget issues.

150 Jamie Weinstein at the Daily Caller: "If a meteor struck a Republican primary debate and eliminated all of Paul’s fellow contenders except for Paul, perhaps Paul could actually win the nomination — provided ballot deadlines had past for most states, of course..." Tucker Carlson's gang secretly for SMOD?

151 Something tells me ... that is not a winning general election strategy. I thought the goal was to beat Obama but apparently I was mistaken - sorry.
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I just didn't want Ron Paul thinking he's doing well.
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Thank yourself for the better organized Obamalite curse, blaster.

152 I'm hopeful for Romney, but this could break so many different ways. If he wins six (the minimum for him to not go into panic mode), and one of them is not Ohio, then nothing changes much and the fight rages on. If he wins 6 or more including OH, Romney becomes a prohibitive favorite from here until May. As for what Gingrich does with his GA win, I have no idea. He could very well take it as an opportunity to leave on a high note, thus releasing his supporters, which would require a reshuffle between Santorum and Mitt. It's been a hard fight every step of the way but I think he'll pull it off.

153

Way to have the pulse of the country in mind, Ohio District 2 voters.

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 06, 2012 08:48 AM (pLTLS)

 

I have to respectfully disagree, lacey.  The folks of Ohio 2    --   including yourself!       --       should be voting their own conscience,       not paying attention to national opinion.  That goes for every primary and caucus voter.  I strongly suspect      Romney     will     end up winning Ohio     regardless. 

 

I've     just         never     been a fan of telling folks     who to vote for in the primaries,     or mocking their choices after the fact.         It just rubs me the wrong way.      Persuasion, sure, but if they aren't persuaded, I respect that.     Now     as       for       the general     election,       you bet      I'll     be out there whacking      ambivalent GOP voters over the head with a clown hammer to get them to the voting booths to vote for our candidate,    whoever that may be. 

 

Speaking of which, anyone know where I can buy a good secondhand clown hammer?   My last one got ruined when I tried to beat some sense into an SEIU dingbat downtown who was protesting       Right to Work legislation.

154 this talk about the White House petition suggests to me that Ace or the cob-loggers could really benefit from investing in a post on ways that people can "go Breitbart" (i.e., annoy the left and reject casual leftism in our lives) in ways that are *legal* and *don't result in surrendering our identities*. Like how to create fake accounts and work through proxies for stuff like signing online petitions. Like how to get the left to own up to its own workplace rules while not jeopardizing your own job (too badly), like in StuckOnStupid's saga. Just a thought, if any of them are reading.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 06, 2012 08:43 AM



Yesterday someone mentioned that in place of the now-sadly-retired DOOM thread, we could have a daily HAPPY WARRIOR thread, where topics like you mentioned could be posted, along with stories such as the Saga of SOS could be shared.  Kind of an ongoing "fight back" theme.

155 Whats the point? The Zero ain't gonna resign. And I will get my name on a list for possible harrassment. Whats the point?

156 {pant, pant, huff, huff}  Arriving early with five-gallon bag of popcorn to get a good seat for StuckOnStupid's next installment.

Andy, thanks for posting that link again.  I said it yesterday but I'll repeat:  Yes, you have to get on the White House list to sign that petition.  But if you're posting here, you probably went on a list much worse years ago. 

Sign that thing.  Do it for Breitbart.  Iowahawk will be grateful.

157 Worst economy since The Great Depression and we're talking about funding for Planned Parenthood.

Something tells me we're doing it wrong and that is not a winning general election strategy.

I thought the goal was to beat Obama but apparently I was mistaken - sorry.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 06, 2012 09:01 AM (pLTLS)

The Democrats and MFM can't let it be about the economy because in spite of all of their spin people know it's bad. So they have to create BS like this to make an "election issue". The Republicans need to brush off these things and continue to hammer away about the economy

158 So you will have to choose between Mitt and Obama.
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Primary is no more. Forget about it.

159 Santorum could be the ideal candidate to highlight the Dem/MFM attempt to distract a large portion of the women's vote with this manufactured sexual health issue.

He could say that his PERSONAL views on these subjects are well documented but the election is about the size of government, especially its expansion with Obamacare, and how the economy is being strangled because of it.

He understands the necessity to allow women the freedom to make their own decisions based on their  beliefs within current law, and that they should be insulted with these phony attempts to co-opt their votes through fear.

The fact that Santorum doesn't seize this opportunity should be self defeating.

160 Posted by: CoolCzech at March 06, 2012 08:59 AM (Iaxlk) False choice. You are assuming that a vote against your shitty candidate Mitt in the primary is a vote for Obama. I'm really, really getting tired of the "vote for Mitt or else" logic.

161 just an aside in this discussion, doesn't finding out that half the population  (well they voted for Obama didn't they?) knowing about partial birth abortion. voted For IT.. why wouldn't we think they voted for it, when they seem to hold abortion as their choice that makes a dem the party to vote for? at least as i see it from Dem woman . 
or a one issue voter.

 i mean really" partial birth abortion."  creeps me right out. what happened to hillarys, " want to make safe it rare ?"

162 124 Has anyone seen my IUD?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke-It at March 06, 2012 08:49 AM (WUWb9)

You left it in the locker room.  You may want to wash it...

163 >>I don't like giving the WH my info

The IRS, SSA, and probably half a dozen other federal agencies already have your info.

How hard would it be to go through the IRS get a list of everyone who took a deduction for contributions to a pro-life or other conservative non-profit?  Query might have to run for a few days :-) but I bet it could be done.

Anyway, just wait until President NotObama uses whitehouse.gov for furthering his agenda. 

164 Years ago I went into my favorite, er, sporting goods shop for the eleventieth time, to purchase some more, ummmmm, chewing gum.  Yeah, that's it - chewing gum.  Anyway I said to the guy that I always deal with, "This, er, particular pack of chewing gum is gonna get me on the list, isn't it?"  He looked at me, shook his head, and said, "Hey, we've all been on the list a long long time."

165 Leaked: Bin Laden not buried at sea, body moved on CIA plane to US

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at March 06, 2012 07:41 AM (lpWVn)

As I had hoped. If they are smart they put the remains in an unmarked grave on a missile base in Nebraska, wrote down the GPS coordinates of the grave, put the piece of paper with the coordinates on it in the DCI's safe, and forgot about the location.

166 I've just never been a fan of telling folks who to vote for in the primaries, or mocking their choices after the fact. It just rubs me the wrong way. Persuasion, sure, but if they aren't persuaded, I respect that.

^^^

I get that. But this isn't just any election. This is THE ELECTION that decides if the country survives.. My conscious tells me there's not one single decent candidate on that ticket.

And I"m not too concerned about 'mocking' Santorum voters. After all anyone who voted for Romney is branded a RINO or worse so we've seen our fair share of the mocking. But I don't really concern myself w/such things.

What interesting to me is that the guy that was seen as fairly conservative (at least in comparison to McCain) in 2008 is now apparently seen as the anti-Christ and I just don't understand that logic.

167 Hillary? It Takes a Village named Mt. Carmel, TX. That's birth control.

168

164 Worst economy since The Great Depression and we're talking about funding for Planned Parenthood.

Something tells me we're doing it wrong and that is not a winning general election strategy.

 

I'm still not clear on why a discussion of funding for Planned Parenthood CAN'T      in turn be a discussion about the     economy.   If you don't want to take the moral or social highground, then make it pure mathematics.    How much money is funneled to Planned     Parenthood and other abortion providers every year?    How many babies are murdered?    Can we AFFORD to continue funding this?   No, of course we can't.   And don't tell me that PP's funding is just a drop in the bucket; I know that.    But if we aren't willing to     stop the drips, what the hell makes anyone think we'll be able to stem the flood that IS the entitlement system?   

169 A lefty on Facebook made me think I should perhaps remove my name from the petition. If Obama resigned, Biden would be president!

170

Link on Drudge:

Sandra Fluke is being sold by the left as something she's not. Namely a random co-ed from Georgetown law who found herself mixed up in the latest front of the culture war who was simply looking to make sure needy women had access to birth control. That, of course, is not the case.

As many have already uncovered Sandra Fluke she is, in reality, a 30 long time liberal activist who enrolled at Georgetown with the express purpose of fighting for the school to pay for students' birth control. She has been pushing for mandated coverage of contraceptives at Georgetown for at least three years according to the Washington Post.

However, as I discovered today, birth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.

 She's a radical feminist lesbo.

171 Lacey lacey, it's ok. He has to win Ohio or he's Fluked.

172

And I"m not too concerned about 'mocking' Santorum voters. After all anyone who voted for Romney is branded a RINO or worse so we've seen our fair share of the mocking. But I don't really concern myself w/such things.

 

I get that.   It's a shame.  This entire election has been awful for our side.   The ad hominems are repellant.

173

i mean really" partial birth abortion." creeps me right out.

 

It should creep you out as it is infanticide, plain and simple. 

174 The economy is tied directly to our national security and vice versa. Without national security, nothing else matters. We currently have an idiot in the White House. That is also tied directly to our national security.

175 the guy that was seen as fairly conservative (at least in comparison to McCain) in 2008
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Mandate Mittens?! /Shirley, you jest./ At least in comparison to McCain's '08 campaign pledges, "Promise them anything, just get their votes!" Romney campaigned from the Corporatist Left as central.

176 what happened to hillarys, " want to make safe it rare ?"



I've never understood that argument.  It makes no sense to me.  If there is nothing wrong with abortion, why does it need to be rare? 

If it's  a valid choice, why does it need to be used rarely?

If it's just tissue, why does it need to be anymore rare than removal of gall stones?

177 >>what happened to hillarys, " want to make safe it rare ?"

She was lying.


>>How does this conversation help us lower unemployment and gas prices?

There's the whole part where businesses, especially smaller ones, aren't hiring because they don't know what kind of fines/fees/taxes they're going to get hit with because of Obamacare, which also requires them to pay higher insurance premiums so their employees' adult daughters can get free birth control and abortifacients.  But yeah, that's not helpful, because "moderates" would rather enable their neighbors' daughters' bad life choices than have a job.

178 Fluke is emblematic of why we are in the mess we are in. Someone peddles a sad story before Congress and uses it to justify spending. Mister, I heard about some old people who have to eat dog food... Doesn't matter if the story is true, only matters that the story is sad. How can you be for old people eating dog food?! If you don't vote for this bill (which, entirely coincidentally, contains provisions that have nothing to do with old people eating dog food and empowering or enriching my constituents) then you hate old people.

179 Thats a conspiracy theory  I can support. Yes, Bin Ladens body was brought  to the US. We poke it every day at prayer time with a stick dipped in pork fat, and we laugh.

180 I had the same experience. I think we're going to see a seriously depressed turnout in most of the states.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 06, 2012 08:57 AM (pLTLS)

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I think everyone knows by now that I don't give a rat's ass for any of the candidates left, but this is the remaining thing that really worries me. I have been tracking this turnout thing since we got knocked down to the final 4 and it is damn scary.

In any case, that's my short check for now in between filling my insulated mug with bourbon. 

And if you are out there NJ con , this next one's for you. (well even if you are monitoring this next one's for you)

bbl

181 And MWR, I hope that didn't come across as bitchy to you. I didn't mean it that. I'm just tired. And pretty depressed about this day. Sorry.

182 >>if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance.

Have I mentioned here that flukes are naturally hermaphroditic?

Learned a lot about trematodes this week.

183 It should creep you out as it is infanticide, plain and simple.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 06, 2012 09:17 AM (VtjlW)

exactly, sometimes i look at these neighbors of mine and think wth, it isn't a normal thought is it> to kill babies, if they had been born to a mother that wanted them they'd be a baby, but otherwise just a waste of tissue? hard to reconcille it in my head,  all i know is once i know they approve i can no longer look at them.

184 I get that. It's a shame. This entire election has been awful for our side. The ad hominems are repellant.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 06, 2012 09:17 AM (4df7R)

RINO.

185

I toured the Alamo a couple of years ago when I was in San Antonio for my oldest son's graduation from Air Force basic training. Its a very humbling site, and the folks in charge treat it very reverently; they do not allow pictures to be taken inside the actual Alamo building (which was a church originally, I believe). The sad part is that most of the actual area of the battle itself is now covered with buildings. There is a federal building where the wall was (if I remember correctly) and the place where the Texians were all burned is now a bridge over the River Walk.

  

186 What interesting to me is that the guy that was seen as fairly conservative (at least in comparison to McCain) in 2008 is now apparently seen as the anti-Christ and I just don't understand that logic. --- Romney has certainly been demonized a great deal, but frankly so have the other three (only Paul deserves it). I think the key thing is that it's clear that *since* 2008 Romney was still pimping Masscare as a model for the federal government to follow. So that's the big policy flaw he has that was not apparent last time. When other groups or individuals realized the problems with Masscare or the mandate, they dropped it. Hell, even if they dropped it because they saw that Tea Partiers opposed it, that's good enough for some of us as it shows being tuned into the political reality. Romney, for whatever reason, appears to have doubled down, refusing to acknowledge that Masscare has made health care delivery and access worse in MA. Moreover, he did nothing to try to persuade neighboring states or the fed government to abandon the idea. That's pretty bad in my book. The second thing, which is less important on one hand but that I think is fueling some of the white hot "hate" of Romney is how he has conducted his campaign. I admit that last time I really thought it was all Huckabee. I don't believe that now after seeing what Romney did this time around and also after hearing from Fred Thompson about 2008. The third thing is the sheer number of flip-flops and outright lies Romney has amassed over an incredibly short time in office. When his own guy is saying 'yeah, Mitt was lying about his abortion stance when he was in Massachusetts,' that's pretty bald faced. People don't trust him. So I understand why some people think they will not be able to vote for the guy under any circumstances. I am trying to keep myself out of that frame of mind - and trying to persuade my husband that he must vote for Romney in the general should that be the option - but I do understand where the folks who really reject Romney are coming from.

187 Can you say "adobe?"

188

I thought about knocks in the middle of the night and Black Marias and the Soviet Union before setting my my whitehouse.gov account and then I thought about all the other people who blog every day under their own names and decided that I would just have to take the chance.  I live in an incredibly intolerant city, but I just have to start ignoring this silly town and take some chances.

 

189
And I"m not too concerned about 'mocking' Santorum voters. After all anyone who voted for Romney is branded a RINO or worse so we've seen our fair share of the mocking. But I don't really concern myself w/such things.
Posted by: laceyunderalls





While you're trying to drag Mitt across the finish line, remember to lift with your legs.  That way you won't hurt your back.

190 If there is nothing wrong with abortion, why does it need to be rare?

If it's a valid choice, why does it need to be used rarely?

If it's just tissue, why does it need to be anymore rare than removal of gall stones?


Posted by: mama winger at March 06, 2012 09:18 AM (P6QsQ

uh hmm, strange isn't it.  i think perhaps she was tyring to leave the door open in her constituents minds, "well you know in case of rape"        

191

Short of a stock market collapse, I'm really not seeing how Republicans can get the subject of the national conversation switched back to the state of the economy if the MFM and the left (BIRM) don't want to talk about it.   Like it or not, they set the tone of what is discussed.  They control the networks.  They own the ink.  Tales of their demise and the resulting loss of influence have been greatly exaggerated.

192 I signed the petition. I also strolled over and signed the billmaher petition. For some time now I have had a throw-away hotmail account that I use to get crap from the WH.  If you spend a few minutes a day reading the stuff they email out you realize a few things. The press and WH are complicit. They are paranoid. They are quite leftist. Truth has no place in the WH. They rule from the left, there is no center. They do not like me.
I am starting to get over my pissed off at AB for up and dying. Make an account, sign up. You are already on their no-no list anyway.

193 So, Mitt in 2009 said Obama should use Massachusetts as a model. He did, and we are going to nominate Mitt to eliminate Obamacare. This will appeal to independents. I just want to make sure I understand why it's wrong to say you oppose planned parenthood in this election.

194 188 And MWR, I hope that didn't come across as bitchy to you. I didn't mean it that. I'm just tired. And pretty depressed about this day. Sorry.
 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 06, 2012 09:21 AM (pLTLS)

 

Not at all, lacey!   Trust me, I can empathize with your frustration.   I'm crossing my fingers and knocking on wood and praying for a good result today.  I don't know what a good result would necessarily look like, but still -- here's hoping!

195 I imagine some very sour pussies. Posted by: Lizabth at March 06, 2012 09:03 AM (JZBti) At Georgetown, you mean? (Yes, I made a slight edit to the p-word

196

RINO.

 

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 06, 2012 09:22 AM (2okAn)

 

LOL!

 

Normally I get slammed with the "intractable purist" label.  

197 Why am I not cool with registering at whitehouse.gov?

198 If there is nothing wrong with abortion, why does it need to be rare? If it's a valid choice, why does it need to be used rarely? If it's just tissue, why does it need to be anymore rare than removal of gall stones? I've had this conversation before, and the thought is that it should be rare for the same reason tooth extraction should be rare---not because the tooth/fetus has a right to stay put, but because if either of those procedures are common, it means people aren't taking care of themselves. If you look at it that way (and pretend that the baby doesn't have rights) it makes sense; surgeries that "fix" entirely avoidable conditions should be rare. I don't agree, because I think a fetus has rights and tooth doesn't, but as far as debate goes it does work.

199 @156 Exactly. A true GOP candidate should be able to discuss any all GOP principles. One plank of the GOP is opposition to Abortion. If you can't talk about a plank of the GOP open and honestly then maybe it should be taken out. It seems to me we are fast approaching a time when we will have to find a new party that embodies true Conservatism, perhaps the Tea Party, perhaps another.

200 166: He could say that his PERSONAL views on these subjects are well documented but the election is about the size of government, especially its expansion with Obamacare, and how the economy is being strangled because of it.

You are a heathen libertarian. Big government is good, the only problem is what big government is doing.

He understands the necessity to allow women the freedom to make their own decisions based on their beliefs within current law, and that they should be insulted with these phony attempts to co-opt their votes through fear.

I believe in women's freedom, but freedom is not absolute. Your freedom to do what you want needs to be balanced against my freedom to throw your ass in jail for being a sick fucking pervert.

201 If it's just tissue, why does it need to be anymore rare than removal of gall stones?

Posted by: mama winger at March 06, 2012 09:18 AM (P6QsQ)

This reminds me of a conversation I overheard my daughter having with someone.  She is very pro-life.  She was talking to someone on the phone who was telling her about someone that had had an abortion.  The person she was talking to was pro-choice.  She said to my daughter that she felt bad that the other girl had to go through that.  My daughter said to her, 'You're pro-choice....so according to you, you should feel no more badly for her than if she went to have a wart removed.  Just tissue, right?"

Shut the other girl up quick.

Mornin' all....my ears are still ringing from the clanging sound of SOS's balls yesterday.

202 Posted by: Y-not at March 06, 2012 09:24 AM (5H6zj)

It goes further than just that Romney failed to even attempt to dissuade other states or the federal government on going the route that MA did as regards Romneycare.  He actively "encouraged" the mandate at the federal level.

203 200 So, Mitt in 2009 said Obama should use Massachusetts as a model. So did Newt. And btw: as much as I dislike the individual mandate, Romney's point was that in Massachusetts the law requires all deadbeats to get exactly the same coverage as everyone else - something I don't agree with - so the only way to make sure such deadbeats paid their fair share was to require them, under those circumstances, to carry health insurance. And things Romneycare NEVER did was: create death panels to deny granny her knee replacement, slash Medicare by $500 billion to pay for illegal healthcare, and the sort of intrusive control that will severely cut the number of doctors. In short: there are ALL sorts of differences between what Romney did in Mass. and Obamacare.

204

I live in an incredibly intolerant city, but I just have to start ignoring this silly town and take some chances.

 

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 06, 2012 09:25 AM (i8XsD)

 

I call that, "Doing a Breitbart."   Good on you!  

205 So did Newt.

Newt has since said that it was a mistake and wrong.  Has Romney?

206 So did Newt. *** Yep. Vote Santorum.

207 I think the idea of  a  regular "Happy Warrior" tread is great. Perhaps it can replace Monty's Doom thread.

208 >>and the sort of intrusive control that will severely cut the number of doctors.

Don't forget the 100+ new federal bureaucracies, half of which discriminate based on race or gender.

209 212 So did Newt. Newt has since said that it was a mistake and wrong. Has Romney? Posted by: GMan at March 06, 2012 09:35 AM (sxq57) Much more importantly, Romney has said repeatedly he is for the complete repeal of Obamacare.

210 @210 All you need to know about Romney Care is the following, The Massachusetts plan/RomneyCare was supposed to accomplish two things-achieve universal health insurance coverage while controlling costs, IT ACCOMPLISHED NEITHER!

211 Posted by: CoolCzech at March 06, 2012 09:37 AM (Iaxlk)

I'd be more inclined to believe him if he'd actually admit that it was a bad idea in general.  But he won't do that.

212

I think the key thing is that it's clear that *since* 2008 Romney was still pimping Masscare as a model for the federal government to follow. So that's the big policy flaw he has that was not apparent last time.

 

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.  In 2008, there was no Obamacare.  Masscare was an issue but it wasn't as major because the presumption was that there was no way it would pass on a national level so Romney's continued defense of it was discounted.  Not so much now. 

 

213 She said to my daughter that she felt bad that the other girl had to go through that. My daughter said to her, 'You're pro-choice....so according to you, you should feel no more badly for her than if she went to have a wart removed. Just tissue, right?"
Shut the other girl up quick. - Tami


You have a wise daughter. 

To me, the underlying subtext of the "abortion should be rare" mantra is this:  We all know it's horrible,  so we're all going to pretend that we really won't do it too often. 

214

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A senior administration official says President Barack Obama will announce housing initiatives to help members of the military as well as homeowners with mortgages insured by the Federal Housing Administration.

Obama will spell out the housing efforts during a news conference Tuesday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the programs before the president unveiled them.

FHA-insured borrowers would be able to refinance their loans at half the fee that the FHA currently charges. That could save a typical FHA borrower more than $1,000 annually. Two million to 3 million borrowers would be eligible, the administration says.

For service members, Obama will announce that major lenders will review foreclosures on members of the military. If wrongly foreclosed upon, service members will be paid their lost equity and receive additional compensation

All the votes money can buy

215 Posted by: CoolCzech at March 06, 2012 09:34 AM ---- Yes, but one of them saw which way the political wind was blowing and adjusted. One of them has not. And the problem is that the one who refuses to admit Masscare has been bad for MA is the one who knows it the best and who normally *is* a political weathervane. Look, I think all of the remaining non-Pauls are Big Government guys to one extent or another. I just think Newt and Santorum are much more likely to be responsive to conservatives than is Romney. If Newt or Santorum win, it will be *because* of conservatives. If Mitt wins, it will be *despite* conservatives. And I do mean spite.

216 SoS is doing great!  What I don't get is the lack of involvement by his supervisor.  As a supervisor I would have given the HR lady an earful if she tried to "counsel" one of my folks without first talking with me and inviting me to the counseling session.  Hell of a workplace he's got there.

217 Much more importantly, Romney has said repeatedly he is for the complete repeal of Obamacare. *** And he's an ardent defender of a woman's right to choose. He's said so. And independents love a good nuanced explanation. They'll easily buy the Mittcare and Obamacare are different, and that Mitt isn't just saying that for votes.

218 What interesting to me is that the guy that was seen as fairly conservative (at least in comparison to McCain) in 2008


That's not how it was.  McShame was the most despised person in the GOP by miles - and rightfully so, the miserable piece of shit.  Mittens was only preferred after it was clear that there was no other.  Before that no one was excited about Mittens and conservatives certainly had no interest in him, at all.

219 On this day:

1930 – International Unemployment Day demonstrations globally initiated by the Comintern

Nothing new under the sun.

220 and the help needed in federal taxes to make it actually work.
?
 Half of RomneyCareÂ’s new spending was financed by the federal government through the Medicaid program, which is financed through federal taxes, which fall on taxpayers in all 50 states.  That means that when Romney financed half of RomneyCareÂ’s new spending by pulling down more federal Medicaid dollars, he increased taxes on residents of all 50 states.

221 217 @210 All you need to know about Romney Care is the following, The Massachusetts plan/RomneyCare was supposed to accomplish two things-achieve universal health insurance coverage while controlling costs, IT ACCOMPLISHED NEITHER! Posted by: McLovin at March 06, 2012 09:38 AM (j0IcY) I'm not defending Romneycare as a stunning success. But living in CT - on the verge of its own Romneycare plan, called "Sustinet" here - I understand that in a heavily, heavily blue state at least Romneycare prevented the outright socialization ("single payer") of healthcare in Massachusetts. See, sometimes politicians have to play the hand their dealt, even if they don't like it. Vic has pointed out that even Reagan himself governed fairly left of center in California, because if he wanted to have ANY influence on policy there, he had to stay in office.

222 Give fascist totalitarian socialst leftwing cocksuckers an opportunity to shut down free speech, and they are on it like flies on shit.

223 Apparently there's a poll from WeAskAmerica that I didn't notice before out for Ohio where Romney is +4 in Ohio with 1023 LV's polled. From what I recall, with that number, it's outside the margin of error. I can't find the damn article on their site.

224 If Reagan was running today, he'd be painted as a RINO because of the fact he used to be a registered Democrat and did govern somewhat left-of-center in California.

225 Lacey, The difference in Romney between 2008 and 2012 is that Romneycare wasn't an albatross around his neck then. For people who think the removal of obamacare is of critical importance, it can be a dealbreaker.

226 Zombie Reagan. DRINK!

227

Remember when Daniel Knauf 'went Breitbart' on his twitter feed last week, said it would prolly end his career in Hollywood?

Looks like Kirk Cameron is about to get him some of that career-endy-thingy too. His thought-crime? Answering a question honestly on CNN on what he believes about gays and gay marriage.

http://tinyurl.com/7rttp58

Quoth the famous moral philosopher Roseanne Barr in the wake of the incident: "Kirk or kurt or whatever Cameron is an accomplice to murder with his hate speech. So is rick warren. Their peers r killing gays in Uganda."

 

Just so we're clear on that.  Thanks for enlightening us, Roseanne.   

228 So Romney could say "hey, I think Masscare was a big mistake, and it didn't work, but at least it prevented there being single payer.", right?

He hasn't though...because he *doesn't* think it was a mistake.  He seems to have chosen Romneycare to be the one thing he sticks to "principle" on.  Why is that?

229 I think we need to vote ABO in the general, but I also think Romney will be a terrible nominee and will be a pretty unsatisfactory President (should he manage to win). It's just that I think he is better than Obama.

230 #994 Resign, bitches.

231 Hi all still checking in.

232 Mary C Brattleboro, VT
March 06, 2012
Signature # 966       Nicely done. 

233 Hi Vic! How are you and your sweet wife doing?

234

I understand that in a heavily, heavily blue state at least Romneycare prevented the outright socialization ("single payer") of healthcare in Massachusetts.

 

I think this is the intellectual divide on this topic.  There are those who argue the pragmatic response and those on the other side who arge the philosophical response that Masscare or any other similar type program is simply a step towards full single payer.  I am not saying that either side is totally correct as those of the philosophical bent do need to recognize the pragmatic difficulties and the pragmatists need to contemplate where the pragmatic position will uttely lead from a theoretical viewpoint.  But there is a distinct division there.  That's why there are those of us, including myself, who simply do not believe that Romney will be on the front lines of attempting to repeal Obamacare.  He may say that he supports such an appeal but his prior actions and his continued defense of Masscare are emblematic that he believes that such a program, in some form, is appropriate.

235 232 The difference in Romney between 2008 and 2012 is that Romneycare wasn't an albatross around his neck then. For people who think the removal of obamacare is of critical importance, it can be a dealbreaker. Posted by: Krypt0nite at March 06, 2012 09:44 AM (qpstS) Well... I suppose that has been the case for many during the primaries. However, assuming Romney is the Rominee, it seems to me that for opponents of Obamacare Romney will be the only deal in town. Staying home will be as good as a vote for Obama. And there is far, FAR more at stake come November than Obamacare. The SCOTUS for starters, and all sorts of international treaties Obama is looking to pass, things like subjecting the United States of America to the European judicial system ("The Hague") for the first time since 1776. You just THINK about all that.

236

I was signature number 1000 on the Resign petition.

237 231 If Reagan was running today, he'd be painted as a RINO because of the fact he used to be a registered Democrat and did govern somewhat left-of-center in California. *** He wouldn't, because Reagan wad an ardent anti-communist who had spoken forcefully on opposing the Soviet Union for years. He believed in things. Mitt Romney has spoken forcefully for himself since 1996.he believes in mandates. Let's leave Reagan alone.

238 i lost a niece or nephew to an abortion.....my brother was dating a woman who wound up pregnant....she did not tell my brother she was pregnant...she didn't tell him anything until after she had MURDERED his child....i found him sitting on my parents back porch one afternoon drunk and crying.....i will never get that picture out of my head.....he would have married her....he would have raised his child alone.....he was never given the choice......

239 #1001. OMG GTFO, SCOAMF! Etc... etc...

240 >>Quoth the famous moral philosopher Roseanne Barr

When she told the children of OWS that rich people should be beheaded, they should have taken her up on it. You could buy a lot of birth control pills with her money.

241

At this point - Rush should not mention Fluke ever again.

Last night on a local pro-obama pro-democat newscast, the "news" show had an entire segment about "will Rush Limbaugh bring down the entire GOP?"

Let the libs have their fun, but for heavens sakes Rush - shut up about it.

 

242 Mallamutt-- thanks, man.

The Greatness will be pitching against the Cards on April 7, btw.

243 Also, Romney continues to muddy the water with "repeal and replace", "keep the good parts" of obamacare, etc. Given his actual record, and his shiftiness on getting rid of obamacare, he has less credibility on the issue than any of the remaining candidates in the primary.

244 Sorry Czech.  I refuse to bend over and take it again like I did in '08.  You don't like that, maybe having put up a better nominee would have been bright.

245

When she told the children of OWS that rich people should be beheaded, they should have taken her up on it. You could buy a lot of birth control pills with her money.

 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 06, 2012 09:50 AM (ZKzrr)

 

And feed a lot of starving children with her fleshy corpse.    Soylent Green, folks.   Soylent      Green.

246 41 I'm thinking we should flood that White House.gov site with signatures. It's time to show them that there areplenty of us who resist. There are no legal grounds for any recriminations of any type against anyone who signs it. We still have the Constitution on our side and plenty of people willing to help us.

WWBD?



I signed that fucker yesterday.  It was one, small way I could go Breitbart.  I'm #200-something.


My husband signed it as well.   Obama goons coming after his business in 3...2..1...


Bring it, Barky.

247 I am now afraid I will die like the famous guy I miss so much already and that C list actor guy who pretended to be Obama, because they always murder in threes.

248 249 At this point - Rush should not mention Fluke ever again. No one on our side should have ever mentioned her to BEGIN WITH. She would have been just another liberal freak show escapee that flashes across the screen for a few seconds before flickering out of sight, mind, and memory. Rush managed to make her a celebrity, probably made her career for her, and even his apology just kept the story alive a few more days and subjected him to her public scorn. Honestly, does Rush even do our side any good anymore?

249

Kaitian you have no grasp of who Reagan was or what he stood for. Read some of his speeches. He wasn't just a conservative, he helped define modern conservatism. No one would have called him a RINO.

 

When you say stupid stuff like this, it makes me less likely to vote for your guy.

250 So who wants to start drinking? or who has been drinking? the rich white man is fu#ked.

251 You just THINK about all that. Posted by: CoolCzech at March 06, 2012 09:48 AM ---- The problem is, CoolCzech, that a lot of us do not trust Romney on a really fundamental level. So even things like judicial appointments, in which once again he does not have a good record (and must rely on the "it was Massachusetts!" excuse), are a matter of trust in someone's judgment. Now I happen to believe Romney will be a pretty typical establishment politician who doles out positions for political payback and whatnot... but at least the folks he will be paying back are not likely to be communist-sympathizers who hate America. However, the idea that is implied in your last statement - that people who oppose Romney are not thinking - is somewhat insulting. They *are* thinking. They are looking at Romney's rather thin record and seeing a guy whom they cannot trust to advance conservative principles. The factor that needs to be added is which of the two guys - Obama or Romney - hates America. I think when you put that in, you have to pull the lever for Romney (in the general). But I think the Romney supporters who are stomping their feet and insisting people in the remaining forty or so states get in line and vote Romney in the primary are not helping their candidate. Conservatives need to feel that they have been heard. That's what the primary and convention are for.

252 This ends tonight.

253 In a world deluged with fucks, he could not spare any.

Sarah Fluke wins Nobel peace prize for being a women right's activist. Later that day, the Darwin award goes to Republicans for shooting themselves in the head, while playing Russian Roulette.

254 I do not like any of the presidential candidates. Maybe my local city elections will be better.

255 This is how I remember the Alamo Looking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamo_Village.

256 CoolCzech, I never said anything about "staying home". I did however explain why many will NEVER have much enthusiasm for Romney, even if they do vote for him.

257 Further nagging re: Iowahawk's "Resign" petition.

I registered yesterday at whitehouse.gov to sign the petition.  (Ate my words to do that.)  There was a box to check to specify no mailings.  Other than the confirmation e-mail I have heard nothing from them.

We HAVE to do this, people.  Iowahawk created that petition in memory of Andrew.  If you think YOU are sticking your neck out signing it, consider poor David Burge, who created it.  If he has guts enough to do this the least we can do is support him.

Sign it, dammit.  Stand up and be counted.

258 The tent is too big.

259 the rich white man is fu#ked.

Posted by: stu at March 06, 2012 09:55 AM (uhPd1)

Rich white man? How about middle class white men. And white women. And blacks, and hispanics, and asians and...shit, all of us.

260 252 Sorry Czech. I refuse to bend over and take it again like I did in '08. You don't like that, maybe having put up a better nominee would have been bright. Posted by: GMan at March 06, 2012 09:52 AM (sxq57) Well, if you find me one I'll be all in for him. I was one of the first to talk about Cain... and then he became Mr. Uzbeki-beki-beki-stan. I wouldn't have minded Gingrich as the nominee, until his OWS crap started up. I was in for Perry, until it became obvious he was just a painfully lousy candidate. Find me Mr. Right, and sure, I'll vote for him. Who do you have in mind, though? The Reverend Santorum?

261 I, too, am not comfortable having to give any information to whitehouse.gov.  No freaking way.  It's a bad feeling to not trust your government to the point where you are hesitant to provide any details about yourself (even your IP address).  Does the email have to be confirmed by clicking through on a link?  Otherwise, I'd imagine mailinator.com would be a good junk email to make up on the fly & use.

262 The petition to remove Rush from Armed Forces Radio has over 13,000 signatures.

Come on, Moron Horde.  We can do better than that at the "Resign" petition.

263 27 I would love to sign that petition, but there is no
way in hell that I am going to create a whitehouse.gov account for the
amusement value.

Maybe through a proxy.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
.............
My thoughts exactly..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 06, 2012 07:07 AM (UTq/I)

.............

Mine also, especially considering that my name is recognizably Kenyan.

264 My ampersand got blocked.  Grr.

265 Great news for me today. I thought I had to give blood for some tests tomorrow but it's actually next week. So I CAN eat and drink . Praise the Lord

266 >>In Milwaukee or St. Louis?

Oh. Milwaukee, sorry.

267 Find me Mr. Right, and sure, I'll vote for him. Who do you have in mind, though? The Reverend Santorum?

Well, in some regards he's better than Mitt "Hey, you guys at the federal level should *totally* use mandates" Romney.

268

269 <<So who wants to start drinking? or who has been drinking? the rich white man is fu#ked.>>

Since my candidate for 2012 is Liver Failure. The drinking never stops. I have chosen this candidate since only I can let him drop out of the race so he can't just quit on me.

270 I wouldn't have minded Gingrich as the nominee, until his OWS crap started up. ----- I'm trying to understand why Romney gets mulligans for abortion flip flops, gun control flaccidity, weak judicial appointments, gay rights pandering and flip flops, and Masscare, but Newt is irredeemable based on how he campaigned for a couple of weeks.

271

re petition:  website would not allow me to register from the "resign" page (i never got the enrollment email) so i went o the 'oppose Rush Limbaugh' page and registered from there, then went back and signed the "resign" petition instead of the offensive one.  Far be it from me to assume that this is more than sheer coincidence...anyway, if you have trouble getting registered, this approach might work for you as well.

 

I'm sure its just a coincidence....

 

Really...

 

272 Why should a bunch of leftard civilians decide what the Armed Forces listens to?

273

Does the email have to be confirmed by clicking through on a link? Otherwise, I'd imagine mailinator.com would be a good junk email to make up on the fly use.

 

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 06, 2012 09:57 AM (F+Xfj)

 

Yes, you have to confirm your email address via a link.   I have a SPAM account that I usually use for these kinds of things.  The only info the White House site itself asks for is your first and last name and your email address.  You have the option of including your ZIP code, but it's not required.  If your email account is sufficiently "clean" of most of your identifying information, then I think you should go for it.  Hotmail and Yahoo are good choices.   And if you worry about your IP address  -- understandable!  -- try using a public computer at a library, or somewhere similar. 

274 Well, have a good one, amigos and amigas. Off to tackle some chores.

275 276 Find me Mr. Right, and sure, I'll vote for him. Who do you have in mind, though? The Reverend Santorum? Well, in some regards he's better than Mitt "Hey, you guys at the federal level should *totally* use mandates" Romney. Posted by: GMan at March 06, 2012 09:59 AM (sxq57) Yeah, and in other regards he managed practically singlehandedly to divert the national conversation for weeks now away from the economy, Iran, and gas prices to birth control of all outlandish things.

276 I'm trying to understand why Romney gets mulligans for abortion flip flops, gun control flaccidity, weak judicial appointments, gay rights pandering and flip flops, and Masscare, but Newt is irredeemable based on how he campaigned for a couple of weeks.

Yeah, my man Perry had that same strange phenomenon happen to him as well.

277 Oh. Milwaukee, sorry.Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 06, 2012 09:59 AM


Milwaukee's a great stadium to catch the Cubs game at.

278 A win for the good guys. Another thug assuming room temperature

http://tinyurl.com/6qgb37t

279 284 Well, have a good one, amigos and amigas. Off to tackle some chores. Posted by: Y-not at March 06, 2012 10:02 AM (5H6zj) Vaya con Leche, mi amiga! Don't do anything I wouldn't do... a significantly short list, btw...

280 270 @lady in black - Does the email have to be confirmed by clicking through on a link?     They send you a confirmation email, with your email address (account name) and password (random, assigned). It wasn't a clickable link in Hotmail (at least). When I pasted the link in the address bar, it brought me straight to the petition page, and I clicked the "sign" button.     It's no big deal. They're not going to be able to do an IRS audit from your personal email address.     ...and if they did, it would be time to arm up anyways. You would have friends.

281
The Oreo, the familiar chocolate wafers sandwiching a layer of creme filling, turns 100 Tuesday. Produced at the National Biscuit Co.'s (Nabisco's) Chelsea Market bakeries in Manhattan, N.Y., the first Oreos were sold in Hoboken, N.J. on March 6, 1912.

282

Why is Santorum whining about money now? Does he somehow think Obama won't have any?

283 @257, that isn't my point.  Due to the strict conservatives requirements especially paleoconservatives, Reagan wouldn't have suited their standards based on his history.  Last night one of those didn't like any of the candidates because of one or two variations that outright disqualified them.  To today's standard, John F Kennedy looks more Republican than Democrat.

284 278 <<So who wants to start drinking? or who has been drinking? the rich white man is fu#ked.>>

Since my candidate for 2012 is Liver Failure. The drinking never stops. I have chosen this candidate since only I can let him drop out of the race so he can't just quit on me.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 06, 2012 10:00 AM (tf9Ne)

Valu-Rite/Mill's Best '12: The Right Cheap Swill for America!

285

Vaya con Leche, mi amiga!

Isn't      that... "Go with     milk?"    Am I missing something?

 

*utterly confused and flashing back to high school spanish class*

286 Posted by: Y-not at March 06, 2012 09:48 AM (5H6zj)
-----


We are doing fine right now.  Wifey's mom is about to come over to take her "shopping".  Before all the crap she was out every day.

287 Romney gets a mulligan for the abortion flip-flop for a very simple reason.

A lot of us were liberals in our youth and over the years have grown out of it.  Ask David Mamet.

Btw, the economic reason for discussing abortion is simple.  "The Population Bomb" is bullshit.  If 50 million American babies had not been murdered in the last 40 years, we would NOT be suffering from the demographic "recession" that Europe is currently "enjoying."  Social Security would not be bankrupt.

288 >>Just ask Carlos Zambrano.

Greinke kicked his ass last time he pitched there.

289

test ...test ...test

...does this work yet?

290 @293 If he's whining about money, then that shows me he's a piss poor loser of a candidate.

291 Obama didn't just approve of partial birth abortion, he also approved of allowing living born children to die in a soild utility room because treating them would "interfere with the mother's decision to abort" The man and his fat ass wife (who wrote sn impassioned defense of stabbing babies in the neck and sucking out their brains) are pure evil. The problem is that people refuse to look at things that are so awful. Our president supports killing full term babies? That sounds icky, better ignore it and focus on some Obama money!

292 Okay. It don't. How the hell are those of you able to use html tags (bold & italics) doing it?

293

256- "No one on our side should have ever mentioned her to BEGIN WITH. ... "

Exactly.

I think Rush should take a few months off and let his best stand in hosts take over. Then, I prefer his stand-in hosts. My favorite is Jason Lewis. If the left wing machine could milk this story until November, they will. The only positive is that the leftwing machine inevitably overplays their hand. It's always fun to watch the left's insane boomerang smack em' in their surprised faces.

294 180 i mean really" partial birth abortion." creeps me right out.

It should creep you out as it is infanticide, plain and simple.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at March 06, 2012 09:17 AM (VtjlW)

Wait, are you saying that delivering a baby breech until only its head is still in the birth canal, then stabbing scissors into the base of its skull and suctioning out its brain isn't about women's health??  Who knew?

295 http://tinyurl.com/6um656n

296 296 Vaya con Leche, mi amiga! Isn't that... "Go with milk?" Am I missing something? *utterly confused and flashing back to high school spanish class* Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 06, 2012 10:06 AM (4df7R) Yeah, a sense of humor. That was a JOKE, son!

297

@     davisbr:   Instead of using the "<" and ">" symbols to enclose your HTML tags, use standard square brackets:  "[" and "]."   

298 "The economy is tied directly to our national security and vice versa."
--

The only platform addressing that symbiosis is Ron Paul's. Secure the US Dollar without which America is no longer independent, and contain government agencies and policies within constitutional bounds, including the military defense of the American Constitutional Republic.

Keynesians including Romney will pursue the economic status quo spending rut course. With "Repo Men" Romney the authoritarian will NOT consider the value of citizens' rights, nor will Mitt in the Oval Office tolerate being challenged ideologically. The America Romney loves is himself and what's in it for him and his, VERY distinct from "others".  Just go along to get along and keep on whining that nothing improves while paddling your barrel along the current over the falls.

Readers claim to admire BIG Breitbart's balls? Only because you agreed with his views. In that, at least demand his promised March 1st promised BOlinksy show immediately released for scrutiny. And don't hold your breath waiting for Mitt Romney to touch Breitbart's ghost, having had nothing to do with him in life. Sure, condolences were properly expressed at Breitbart's passing except by Barack Obama.
--

WhatÂ’s Andrew Breitbart Going to Hit Mitt Romney With?
Posted on January 9, 2012 by Kevin DuJan // 2012 GOP Candidates
hillbuzz.org:

“The Party of Stupid” never learns.
You are beyond any help if you think that Democrats need anyone to give them ideas. The Left has been eagerly and aggressively rooting for Romney to be the 2012 nominee because their opposition research file on him goes all the way back to 1994. It is not appropriate or acceptable to take any vetting of Romney off the table because you think “thatÂ’s mean” or insist “youÂ’re giving Democrats material!”.  Sister mister, the Democrats have more material on Romney than you or I or even Andrew Breitbart could dream.  Romney is the wrong candidate for 2012 when jobs are one of the two big issues (the other being Obamacare, which RomneyÂ’s also terrible regarding). --

"Is Mitt Romney a Keynesian?"
By Daniel J. Mitchell, February 23, 2012
International Liberty:

What is it about Mitt Romney? The United States desperately needs smaller government, lower taxes, and less intervention, yet his comments and track record on issues such as the value-added tax, healthcare, Social Security reform, budget savings, ethanol subsidies, and the minimum wage leave a lot to be desired.

We can now add something else to the list. The former Massachusetts governor has come out of the closet as a Keynesian. "Romney admits Budget Cuts Slow the Economy." [youtube]

299 I miss my morning doom.

300 Lave sus manos, mi amigos.

301

Petition to have Obama return the $1M from Bill Maher.http://tinyurl.com/7aqustx

302

The mistake people make about Santorum vs. Romney is that one is a social con and one is a fiscal con. Romney is not a fiscal con.

303

Yeah, a sense of humor. That was a JOKE, son!

 

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 06, 2012 10:12 AM (Iaxlk)

 

Well I      figured    that.    Lol!  I just don't know what it was a joke about!

 

I'm     clearly not awake enough this morning.   I've already finished my coffee, though.   Bah.

304 304 256- "No one on our side should have ever mentioned her to BEGIN WITH.... " Exactly. I think Rush should take a few months off and let his best stand in hosts take over. Then, I prefer his stand-in hosts. My favorite is Jason Lewis. If the leftwing machine couldmilk this story until November, they will. The only positive is that the leftwing machine inevitably overplays theirhand. It's always fun to watch the left'sinsane boomerang smack em' in their surprised faces. Posted by: rectal exam at March 06, 2012 10:11 AM (O7ksG) Stein is infinitely more entertaining to listen to. What a wit! Only drawback with him, though, is that he has adopted an utterly defeatist attitude: Per Stein, it is literally All Over. That may well be true, but when he talks like that I have to ask myself, "Well... if it's all over, why am I wasting my time listening to you when I could be watching some nice lezzie pron, instead?"

305 Rush: "let his best stand in hosts take over."

Mark Steyn

306 I thought an amiga was a computer, not a girl friend, then realized for a lot of geeks its the same thing.

307 @315: well... a joke that has to explained has obviously failed I was just satirizing my pretentious use of Spanish when in reality my knowledge of it is completely abysmal.

308 Kirk Cameron made a wonderful Christian film called Fireproof that did break into the mainstream, which is quite unusual for these small, independent Christian oriented movies. Hollywood, you would suppose, would be more market oriented.But I guess they can cook the books, so that one blockbuster can fuel a lot of anti-Christian, anti-American propaganda to make their inner circle feel good about themselves. 

309 Right, he spells it "Steyn," doesn't he?

310 +1 to Iowahawk for the concept.
-1,000,000,000,000,000 for expecting me to provide the data this administration would need to gather me up for the inevitable vernichtungslager.
When they come for me, they'll have to work for it.

311 "If there is nothing wrong with abortion, why does it need to be rare?

If it's a valid choice, why does it need to be used rarely?

If it's just tissue, why does it need to be anymore rare than removal of gall stones?"


Because those of us who believe in access to early abortion recognize the zygote as a potential human being and we DO take its existence seriously.  Isn't that what you want?  We simply cannot see a clump of cells as a person. 

Pro-choice advocates still want abortion to be rare.  Where is the bad in that?

Wandering only slightly afield here, it never ceases to amaze me that the same people who would outlaw abortion are the ones screaming to the skies about the skyrocketing cost of welfare.  Does the correlation not occur to them?

312 308 @ davisbr: Instead of using the "<" and ">" symbols to enclose your HTML tags, use standard square brackets: "[" and "]."     test

...test

 

 

...test

313 Funny, the Weakly Standard spells out "twat"  but not the "C-word"

I realize that I am old and gray, but I would never use the words in polite company, unless the topic is forbidden words.

314 I once asked this idiot woman I worked with who was "pro-choice" if she would like to see a baby being born. She said, of course it would awesome. I asked if she would like to watch an abortion. No, why would ask me that? I thought that you support abortions, so why wouldn't want to see one? She didn't have an answer. I said, It's only a fetus right? What do you care if you see it lifeless? She bleated, That's gross!  I said, so you're for it as long as it's vague like women's rights but the actual abortion what you support would be too much for you. I think for a lot of idiots who support this shit, they're all for it because they refuse to acknowledge what it really is but the liberal slogans sound good

315 @314 Based on what standard?  He balanced the budget in Massachusetts and left them in a surplus.  Naturally Deval Patrick squandered it.  Same for the Olympic games especially coming off 9/11.

316 I never understood women's aversion to the "C" word as opposed to the "p" or any other one, for that matter.

317 #286 because when your bumpersticker criticisms are based on misrepresentation of the facts they don't stick very well.

318

 

308

You are the bomb.

...so I can haz italics?

...Can I haz quotes?

319 It's amazing that the Left's position is that Kermit Gosnell just took it an inch too far.

320 TEST test

321

Sigh. Italics I can have. That is good.

...Bold I can have, too. That is good, too.

...apparently I should go read about tags someplace. Since those brackets aren't for just everything.

322 Nice Video tour of the Alamo, Pee Wee style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYfjq3ZYZbA

323 the bracket i , /i, b, /b work.  anything else?

324 cp @280:  "website would not allow me to register from the "resign" page (i never got the enrollment email):

Perhaps that explains the depressed signature count.  This petition is all over the blogosphere and yet it only has 1030 sigs as of now.  Doesn't make sense.  Are we that cowardly?

325 You expect the benefactors of ACORN to administer a fair election?

326 314 Based on what standard? He balanced the budget in Massachusetts and left them in a surplus. Naturally Deval Patrick squandered it. Same for the Olympic games especially coming off 9/11.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 06, 2012 10:20 AM (LrD3a)

 

He wants to raise the minimum wage when the highest unemployment rate is among the young, uneducated. His man made global warming stance will weaken him on that front. He believes spending cuts right now without tax reform will hurt the economy, yet has promised not to change tax rates. He continues to defend government managed healthcare, despite the cost overruns in Massachusetts.

327 What part of "They are not nice people" don't you understand?

328

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Testing still

329 "Because those of us who believe in access to early abortion recognize the zygote as a potential human being and we DO take its existence seriously. Isn't that what you want? We simply cannot see a clump of cells as a person. "

"recognize the zygote as a potential human being" AND "cannot see a clump of cells as a person"

You are psychotic. Thank you for posting your obviously sociopathic, disassociative perspective. You have no self awareness at all do you?

330

308 @ davisbr: Instead of using the "<" and ">" symbols to enclose your HTML tags, use standard square brackets: "[" and "]." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at March 06, 2012 10:12 AM (4df7R)

According to my tests, the brackets work for italics, bold, underline, and strikethrough.

This is the test for "quote" (since blockquote did not work).

331 Wait, are you saying that delivering a baby breech until only its head is still in the birth canal, then stabbing scissors into the base of its skull and suctioning out its brain isn't about women's health?? Who knew? *** Stop talking about this. We can only discuss tax plans or we will lose the election.

332

"America's longest war will leave no trace"

Mark Steyn, March 2, 2012
ocregister.com

In the past couple of months, two prominent politicians of different nations visiting their troops on the ground have used the same image to me for Western military bases: crusader forts. ... Safely back within the gates, a man can climb out of the full RoboCop and stop pretending he enjoys three cups of tea with the duplicitous warlords, drug barons and pederasts who pass for Afghanistan's ruling class.

The last crusader fort I visited was Kerak Castle in Jordan a few years ago. It was built in the 1140s, and still impresses today. I doubt there will be any remains of our latter-day fortresses a millennium hence. Six weeks after the last NATO soldier leaves Afghanistan, it will be as if we were never there. Before the election in 2010, the New York Post carried a picture of women registering to vote in Herat, all in identical top-to-toe bright blue burkas, just as they would have looked on Sept. 10, 2001. We came, we saw, we left no trace. America's longest war will leave nothing behind.

They can breach our security, but we cannot breach theirs – the vast impregnable psychological fortress in which what passes for the Pushtun mind resides. Someone accidentally burned a Quran your pals had already defaced with covert messages? Die, die, foreigners! The president of the United States issues a groveling and characteristically clueless apology for it? Die, die, foreigners! The American friend who has trained you and hired you and paid you has arrived for a meeting? Die, die, foreigners! And those are the Afghans who know us best. To the upcountry village headmen, the fellows descending from the skies in full body armor are as alien as were the space invaders to Americans in the film "Independence Day."

The Rumsfeld strategy that toppled the Taliban over a decade ago was brilliant and innovative: special forces on horseback using GPS to call in unmanned drones. They will analyze it in staff colleges around the world for decades. But what we ought to be analyzing instead is the sad, aimless, bloated, arthritic, transnationalized folly of what followed. The United States is an historical anomaly: ... and in some ways that speaks well for it, and in other ways, in a hostile and fast-changing world of predators and opportunists, it does not.

333

"Quote" obviously did not work.

 

...sorry for muddying up the thread, everyone. I thank you ever so much MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter

 

last little test (just seeing if I have to use the html editor, even, to add the bracketed tags).

334

Posted by: crisis du jour at March 06, 2012 09:44 AM (v4USE)

 

 

There were a surprising number of comments in support of Kirk Cameron, even from people who disagreed with him. 

335 "Based on what standard? He balanced the budget in Massachusett"

that state's legal/constitutional requirement.

336

You do not have to use the html editor to add italics & bold. This is my last test (mostly to see if embedding tags within tags also works).

 

...thanks for your patience, all.

 

 

337 Ha!

338 A couple of things: I signed it, and if it allowed I would have signed it John Hancock BIG.(and for the same reason he did)
I'll pull the lever for Newt. even if Mitt is "inevitable" I'd like Newt to stay in so that he can get another swat or two in against the press and the president. It won't hurt the eventual nominee ...and might help.
I'm in Kaptur's district and will enjoy the Kucinich/Kaptur show..
Yesterday at one of the busiest interersections in town there was a group with black suits and red banners with some anti-abortion signs but ALSO signs saying "Honk if you want to stop Obamacare" "Honk if you hate socialism" LOTS of honking thumbs up...a "hope"ful sign.

339 I'm looking for a way to sign the petition...

...wondering, of course, whether sometime between now and November there'll be any sort of positive correlation between petition signatories and IRS enforcement action.

When the history of this administration is written (assuming an honest writer) it's gonna make Nixon look like the Easter Bunny.

340 Bob_B at March 06, 2012 10:33

And you need to return to elementary school.  Perhaps they can teach you the meaning of "potential".

Unbelievable how quickly the epithets start flying.  I went from everyday poster to "psychotic" in the blink of an eye.  If you're having trouble winning your arguments, Bobby, there may be a clue here.

341 LulzSec, that hacker crew

Apparently the internet tough guy act doesn't hold up in FBI custody.  Bright flourescents vs. lava lamps? 

Maybe they'll bag some serious jerks while scaring the crap outta the kidz.

342 Check out the largest bar tb story on the sidebar. The receipt shows 20,000 GBP for "Ace of Spades". I hope he gave them their money's worth.

343
Wandering only slightly afield here, it never ceases to amaze me that the same people who would outlaw abortion are the ones screaming to the skies about the skyrocketing cost of welfare. Does the correlation not occur to them?

Posted by: creeper at March 06, 2012 10:18 AM (gre5a)

Are you fucking serious? Killing a good part of a generation kills a good part of our nations wealth. You cannot justify abortion as anything other than what it is. Are you fucking stupid?

344 And to my fellow Texans,  a late Happy Independence Day.

345

Ah yes, the shut up about abortion and we will fix it later approach. I'm sorry, but I come from this crazy viewpoint the Republican Party is supposed to not be ashamed of its platform. I know, that guarantees our electoral
Ruin for some reason. We're supposed to pretend we're Democrats who want low taxes, apparently.

Jeebus, you're fucking stupid. Who's ashamed? But does it have to be FUCKING FRONT AND CENTER ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME???

346 "Are you fucking serious? Killing a good part of a generation kills a good part of our nations wealth. You cannot justify abortion as anything other than what it is. Are you fucking stupid?"

"Our nations (sic) wealth"???  You're joking, right?  What wealth?  Have you looked at the US balance sheet lately?  How does forcing unwanted children to be born into a life of welfare increase our nation's wealth?

And I CAN justify abortion because your position is, like mine, only an opinion.  You believe personhood begins at conception.  I believe it begins when a fetus is viable.  These days that's somewhere around twenty-four or twenty-five weeks, given excellent care.  Even more important, I believe what a woman does in consultation with her physician is none of your business.  You are no more right than I am and I resent the hell out of being labeled "stupid" and "psychotic" for a reasoned opinion.

347
Wandering only slightly afield here, it never ceases to amaze me that the same people who would outlaw abortion are the ones screaming to the skies about the skyrocketing cost of welfare. Does the correlation not occur to them?


Let's see, we've made abortion a sacred right of women (1973, Roe vs. Wade) , and we have skyrocketing costs of welfare (1930s New Deal, 1960s Great Society).   The correlation you want us to notice is that devaluing human lives leads to ... more welfare?   


Or do you want us to play with a hypothetical scenario where if we currently had a more traditional society that despised abortion, shamed young singles from premarital sex, and pushed shotgun weddings, that we'd be even deeper in the hole in welfare?   (does not follow; that's a society that encourages individual responsibility)  

348 Man, I feel like I'm dealing with a grade-schooler here. 

The skyrocketing costs of welfare are, of course, not the result of Roe v. Wade but of a society which increasingly accepts children born out of wedlock.  Think for a moment of how many more families we would have on welfare absent Roe. 

Screw it.  You guys are a bunch of pussies who won't even sign a petition to remove a guy you all acknowledge to be the worst president in history but would bully any woman with an unwanted pregnancy.  Classy.

349 And I CAN justify abortion because your position is, like mine, only an opinion. You believe personhood begins at conception. I believe it begins when a fetus is viable. These days that's somewhere around twenty-four or twenty-five weeks, given excellent care. Even more important, I believe what a woman does in consultation with her physician is none of your business. You are no more right than I am and I resent the hell out of being labeled "stupid" and "psychotic" for a reasoned opinion.

I believe personhood begins at 18, when the teenager's addled mind finally begins to gain some semblance of intelligence.  

Your opinion is as good as mine, no more right or wrong.    What a family chooses to do with a teenager that they've fed and raised for 18 years, in the privacy of their own home, is none of your business.  After all, it doesn't affect you.  


And I'll make sure to keep my damn opinions to myself when a serial killer decides that you're not a person and to pay you a visit.   It's all just our opinions, and they're all equally valid and nice and good.    

350 Wow.  It alwasy amazes me that even on Conservative websites, there's always at least one pro baby killer. 

351 365 Man, I feel like I'm dealing with a grade-schooler here.

The skyrocketing costs of welfare are, of course, not the result of Roe v. Wade but of a society which increasingly accepts children born out of wedlock. Think for a moment of how many more families we would have on welfare absent Roe.

Screw it. You guys are a bunch of pussies who won't even sign a petition to remove a guy you all acknowledge to be the worst president in history but would bully any woman with an unwanted pregnancy. Classy.


Simple economics question:   What happens when you increase the gas efficiency of cars?    Do we use more or less gas?  

Correct answer:  We use more gas, because higher efficiency makes it cheaper to drive, so people DRIVE MORE, to the point it exceeds the higher gas efficiency.     Why does that happen?   Societies aren't static, and people respond to incentives.   Changing one variable can cause MULTIPLE effects.   This is why we call it the "Law of UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES".  




So you're performing a simple analysis of what happens if we changed our society's underlying principles on abortion and only looking at one effect - more people.   There may be more people - but without easy abortions, we'd have less casual sex, more long term relationships and marriages (since men want to get some of that sweet sweet booty), and a less dysfunctional society.  

If I'm a grade-schooler, what does that make your one-bit understanding of this issue?  

352 365 Man, I feel like I'm dealing with a grade-schooler here.

I really want to drive home how incoherent your point is:  

The correlation we can observe is this:    70 odd years ago, greatly restricted abortion, no welfare state.     Now, mostly unrestricted abortion, bankrupt welfare state.   


What you want us to do is to make an extrapolation - without abortion, we'd have more poor people (cause only poor people get abortions, apparently), and we'll assume that those poor people would all be on welfare, and thus our welfare state would be deeper in the hole.      Basically, your thesis is that we've only aborted unproductive people, so our society is better off with all of them dead.   


If you could do better than grade school level analysis, you might see a flaw with that train of thought.  

353 Hey, ConservativeMonster...did you sign the petition?

Ole Texas Chic, thanks for adding "baby-killer" to "psychotic" and "stupid".  I'm accumulating quite a stack of pejoratives today.  Happily, watching Sarah Palin deal with crap like this has taught me how to cope with name-callers.

Wish StuckOnStupid would get home so we could talk about something a little more au courant than a forty-year-old SCOTUS ruling which is supported in principle by more than sixty percent of the population.

Link?  Why, yes.  I have a link:

http://tinyurl.com/76bag

354 Started my taxes during lunch.  Anyone else discover the new form 8949 and the indescribable joy of getting to file three of them?

Where is trashcan man when you need him?

355 Screw it. You guys are a bunch of pussies who won't even sign a petition to remove a guy you all acknowledge to be the worst president in history but would bully any woman with an unwanted pregnancy. Classy. Posted by: creeper at March 06, 2012 01:03 PM (gre5a) Dale Carnegie left a message. Something about a book?

356 I hear you, Merovign (and respect you highly).  Understand completely the point you are making.

When winning friends and influencing people is obviously not in the cards, though, you may as well say what's on your mind.

Got that from some guy who died last week. 

357 Wish StuckOnStupid would get home so we could talk about something a little more au courant than a forty-year-old SCOTUS ruling which is supported in principle by more than sixty percent of the population.

Link? Why, yes. I have a link:

http://tinyurl.com/76bag


Your same source notes that 60% would support restricting abortion to a greater degree.  

37% support tighter restrictions than now, 23% say it should be banned.  


So yes, abortion isn't likely to be banned from our current society any time soon because people want to "care" for that girl who needs it for incest or rape or some horrid horrid (and unlikely) circumstance completely out of her control.   At the same time, people can see that unrestricted abortion is pretty horrible as well.  

People don't like either "extreme" - but we as a society still make a choice about what we're going to accept.   Where we land between the two extremes does matter, and it's worth fighting for.    The leftists are always fighting for their vision of society - we can adopt the leftist view, or we can push our alternative.  

358 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

359 In the Ohio primaries today, I voted for the first time in 5 years, and I didn't even have to hold my nose when I did it. In the primary here, a certain favorite of the moron horde is still on the ballot. It may be a worthless protest vote, but it felt good. I voted for the man who best represented what I want in the POTUS. I voted for Rick F'ing Perry, and have no regrets.

360 For all you pusscakes afraid to sign the petition , may i suggest this  http://tinyurl.com/6no7lls
 Grow a pair

361

Sorry, I am way to busy to read all comments. As of the past 10 minutes I have been flood-calling carbonite. I will be canceling all 3 of my accounts tomorrow. Hit them in the wallet. It is time we are heard.. No more of this Mr. Moral crap. They do this over and over.

Walk on and let your voice be the big stick...