1 First?

2 YESSS!!!

3 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Thursday, March 8, 2012.  Thanks to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, on this day in 1950 the Russians announced they had the atomic bomb.

4 FBI director says he will have to review Holder's criteria to determine if the administration could target American citizens for execution without a trial in the U.S.  Remember the flap over this in that new law which they said did not allow that?

http://is.gd/hG9pFr

5 Senate makes deal with McConnell for doing the pork laden Highway bill. Last week crying Boner said he would run it through despite opposition from conservatives.   Yeah, these fine Republican leaders are sure to hold a liberal President  Mutt in check.

http://is.gd/ToreLu

6 Wind Farms paid to not produce and shut down because with snow melt runoff there is more than enough hydro power.  What they are telling you here is how expensive wind power is, especially compared to hydro which is the absolute cheapest and the fact that you can not have wind or solar as too high a percentage of your generation mix due to its instability. But all the green turds in this area will see their electricity bills increase. Waaaa.  They have the cheapest rates in the country due to hydro so tough.

http://is.gd/HLrhM5

7 Pannetta says international law trumps congress in this administration's use of military overseas.  Note I don't have the proper drivers so I haven't watched the video.

http://is.gd/QXKeHi

8 7th circuit court of appeals says police can search cell phones without a warrant.

http://is.gd/xZFALv

9 City of Oakland suing occutards for damages.  Good luck with that one, but you should be suing SEIU, and that will never happen.

http://is.gd/nFQqy3

10 SC GOP finally wising up and going to the Legislature to close GOP primaries.  They have sued every election for the past 10 years or so and lost.  The court has ruled repeatedly that if they use any SC resources then the State can have a say in the primary.  And when the legislature was totally in the hands of the Democrats they made it an open primary.  It is about time they wised up.

http://is.gd/gqBY8Z

11 J. K. Rowling taxed out of the Forbes top money list.

http://is.gd/yMwMYm

12 NRO discusses super pacs keeping Noot and Santorum in the race (also crazy uncle).  Noot should drop out but per this article the super pac money is going into his pockets.

http://is.gd/sAPQH8

13 My thoughts:  For Gingrich, Florida was make or break.  He broke.  Get out.  For Santorum, Ohio was make or break.  He broke.  Get out.  For Romney, Florida, Michigan, and Ohio were make or break.  What set of circumstances are there for Gingrich or Santorum to do better in the future than they did in the past?  I was hoping Rick Perry was the real deal, he wasn't.  Now I'm on the Romney bandwagon.  The others have had their fun, increased their speaking fees, etc.  Now, move along and lets start spending some money crushing the SCoMF.

14 WE looks at Mutt's Southern showings and says something I have been saying since the start of the primaries.  He has almost no support in the South and it would cost Republicans the election as some of these voters stay at home.

http://is.gd/6XQDwn

15 Jim Rogers says something about inflation that all of us Morons already knew, the government is lying about the inflation numbers.  Hell, they lie about everything in this administration.

http://is.gd/p3uaXN

16 And that's it for the news.

17 Noot should get out even though he is the least bad of the bad four. make it a race between Sanatarium and Mutt. But as they said in that article, the super pac money is going into his personal pockets which if I am not mistaken is illegal.

18 I am not sold that in the general election the South will choose the SCoMF over the Republican, even if the Republican is a Mormon.  I've underestimated anti-Mormon sentiment before though.

19 It has NOTHING to do with anti-Mormon.  It has to do with being a NE liberal gun grabber from MA.

20 facebook dot com/pages/SlutWalk-Austin/179600278757409 If you want more fun a la Amazon book review, here's the that calls themselves 'sluts' but are hoping to silence all who use the word. Nobel - attention must be paid. They may be building a rocket. Maybe.

21 Thanks Vic I have been doing my best not to pay attention to the news lately. Obama fucking up and "winning" all over the place. Cutting the military, raising tricare rates by over 300%, saying he can go to war without congress, pissing on freedom of religion. Shit is just too depressing.

22 Cutting the military, raising tricare rates by over 300%, saying he can go to war without congress, pissing on freedom of religion.
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This is what happens when there is no checks and balances. We only have that when a Republican is in office and then it is ALL checks and no balance.

23 *waves good morning from 5 miles up* I hate 6:30 am flights.

24 I hate 6:30 am flights.
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I hate all flights.  My last buisness trip took longer to fly than I could have driven. (Trip to Pittsburgh).

25 Noot should get out even though he is the least bad of the bad four. make it a race between Sanatarium and Mutt. But as they said in that article, the super pac money is going into his personal pockets which if I am not mistaken is illegal.

Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2012 06:39 AM (YdQQY)

I agree with you that Knut is the best of this bad bunch, but he's toast and should bow out. I don't happen to believe it will lead to a coalescing of the !Romney vote around Santorum though, nor do I think if Santorum were to leave Newt would gain all of that vote. I think the !Romney's are split between the two as each have huge, but different fatal flaws. Gingrich brings the baggage and is erratic at best, Santorum is a big government SoCon.

I'd say Newt leaving nets Santorum at best half his support, the rest to Romney with a small slice for uncle crazypants. I'm still not sure who I'll vote for when NY primaries roll around. I'm torn between Newt (if he's still in), Perry (if he's still on the ballot), Herr Doktor (if it's between Romney and Santorum), and SMOD (if just decide to say fuck it).

26 Police can check your phone. Next up better be encrypted memory and drive space on smartphones.

27 Obama's policies winning and being enacted= trillion dollar deficits, high gas prices, cuts in the military, taking away your freedoms, disregarding the rule of law to suit his reelection, and the deliberate dividing of our nation into haves vs the have nots and want to take yours. How anyone can look at what he wants to do and saying I want more of that is beyond me.

28 Good Morning Moron Vic! How are you today?

29 I liked the analysis posted on the sidebar yesterday. There really is no practical path to the nomination for Santorum, and Newt is mathematically eliminated. The only rational for them staying in is to deny Mitt a first ballot win. And Vic, I really don't agree with your southern support analysis. Mitt has been a pretty strong second choice in the southern states. South Carolina and Georgia are voting Obama over Mitt? That's crazy talk.

30 Obama's policies winning and being enacted= trillion dollar deficits, high gas prices, cuts in the military, taking away your freedoms, disregarding the rule of law to suit his reelection, and the deliberate dividing of our nation into haves vs the have nots and want to take yours. How anyone can look at what he wants to do and saying I want more of that is beyond me.

Posted by: Mr Pink at March 08, 2012 06:58 AM (iv+KC)

Sure that's bad, but the most important issue this election is the GOP's war on my ham wallet!

31 Next up better be encrypted memory and drive space on smartphones.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 08, 2012 06:56 AM (sv7B2)

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A judge has "fixed" that already. He ruled that some woman (I forget the case) had to provide police with the encryption password. But I think they did have a search warrant for that one.

And note, Search Warrants are about as easy to get as a ham sandwich at your local diner.

32 Solar storm just got here. Brace.

33 I am well on my way to being a misanthrope.

34 I do about 100k miles a year flying, so I'm kind of used to it. But 6:30 is brutal.

35 Are the morons ready for 10 dollar/ gallon gasoline. Cutting troops pay overseas and medical care?

36 "AustinSlutWalk" posted by Bryan Preston:

"But if guys can be sluts, then the whole attack on Rush as a misogynist because he used the word has just collapsed, no?"

Rush reserves "slut" and "feminazi" application against women, as if the characteristics never apply to men.

The guys and gals who are sluts are damned proud of it, and come in all sexual and ideological orientation.

Who'd be surprised if a guy overreacts or hyperventilates when jeered as a slut at a bar? "Self-Described Austin Sluts Protest Use of the Word ‘Slut’"

37 I think all of the current nonRomney primary candidates are fulfilling a role in getting issues out there that are lightning rods for the MSM. I suspect that Romney wants Newt and Paul to stay in, but wishes Santorum would bag it and go home, as long as he is around there will be the non-stop sex/contraception/gay marriage hysteria.

38 South Carolina and Georgia are voting Obama over Mitt? That's crazy talk.
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SC and GA are not the issue, there is enough margin there. Its States like NC and VA which have razor thin margins due to an influx of liberals into the State. A few percentage points of disgusted conservatives staying at home would be all it would take to turn the State over to Obama again.


In short, its 2008 all over again.  But what is worse is the potential harm that that would do to the Senate and House. So far turnout has been miserable and that does not bode well.

And no, they are not going to vote for Obama.  They will simply sit at home and F%#* it.

39 I'm still annoyed about Panetta's statement yesterday. International approval is needed for military action, but not Congressional. The Constitution really is just a joke to them, isn't it?

40 Good Morning Moron Vic! How are you today?

Posted by: stu at March 08, 2012 06:58 AM (uhPd1)

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I'm doing OK, how are you doing?

41 I don't see it happening, Vic. Hope and Change barely won those states in 2008 with no record and hype. Purdue isn't even bothering to run, the polls in NC look so bad. Obama's only conceivable victory path is out west with a Latino surge. The South won't be the battleground. It will be rust belt and mountain west.

42 Newt would be good as president of the senate. And senate president doesn't HAVE to delegate that job.

43 I don't think Mormon helps in CO, I don't think they are big there. Helps in Nevada though.

44 .... to the majority leader.

45

Pretty good moron Vic. Cheking the Breitbart Obama video.

46 #19  Vic,  I realize you are concerned about the Second Amendment,  but it is foolish to think that some of these anti-Romney people are not being bigoted.  And this is not confined to the South.   I don't understand it,  since as far as I can tell the Mormons simply have a lot of kids, don't drink,  and have a slightly bizarre theology.  They don't bother anyone except for knocking on doors once in a while.

However,  I do think that there is an undercurrent of this which pops up on Free Republic and some other web sites (including here every once in a while from trolls).  The Obama people are stirring it, and so is the media with their whisper campaign.  It needs to be faced head-on.

I am a Catholic,  and many of the practices of my Church are viewed with suspicion by people from outside.  A generation ago this type of prejudice was directed against John F. Kennedy.  I despise Santorum for using this prejudice (which he is doing) and I absolutely will speak out whenever I see it. 

Meanwhile,  we have an anti-Christian,  anti-Semitic, pro-Muslim communist in the White House.

47 Have any of you all been getting inundated with this Kony 2012 business? There is a big event scheduled for April 20, apparently that's the day set to make him famous. If you don't know who he is, think African strongman. I'm getting hit by this stuff on facebook, it's not a liberal thing per se, more like an innocent do-gooder thing. Anyone else seen this? Honestly, I don't quite know what to think about it all.

48 Any thoughts on where Peyton Manning will end up?

49

Colorado is actually full of conservative evangelicals and military. The air force academy..colorado springs is conservative. Western colorado also conservative. Avoid Denver and Boulder areas....full of  far left liberals...

Mormon is a negative in most of the USA unfortunately.

50 ***********Have any of you all been getting inundated with this Kony 2012 business? There is a big event scheduled for April 20, apparently that's the day set to make him famous. If you don't know who he is, think African strongman.

I'm getting hit by this stuff on facebook, it's not a liberal thing per se, more like an innocent do-gooder thing.

Anyone else seen this? Honestly, I don't quite know what to think about it all.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 08, 2012 07:17 AM (Gc/Qi)*****************

It is pervasive on Facebook, yes. Why did these folks choose 4/20 as the big day? FYI, this is the big stoners day, based on I don't know what. The organizers may be doing this for the lulz [wink, wink, nudge, nudge]

51 The difference between you and me is that I don't think it's automatically an indication of prejudice when people have questions about the religious beliefs of others. A generation ago, when Kennedy was running for President, people didn't know, would a Catholic President be required to obey the dictates of the Pope when it came to matters of state? It was a question that needed answering. Granted, there are bigots everywhere, in every generation, but I think Catholics at the time wanted people to know what they believed. It was a legitimate point of discussion. Are Romney's religious beliefs a valid point of discussion? Can we have that discussion without automatically assuming people who ask questions are bigots?

52 #48  I think he would like Miami. He has a house there which would make it easier on his family than taking a place in Kansas City or somewhere like that.

Radio in Indy is full of sad and angry people.  I expected him to leave.  That $28 million bonus was too big a chunk to shell out for what at best would be a few more years.

53 I don't understand it, since as far as I can tell the Mormons simply have a lot of kids, don't drink, and have a slightly bizarre theology. They don't bother anyone except for knocking on doors once in a while.
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I grew up in the South and returned here in 1977.  I have never heard anyone express any anti-Mormon sentiments. That includes a lot of hard core religious people that I know.

This anti-Mormon thing is a figment of the MFM who invariably hates the South.  Its all Mississippi burning to them all the time.

54 Radio in Indy is full of sad and angry people. I expected him to leave. That $28 million bonus was too big a chunk to shell out for what at best would be a few more years." Yeah I don't know why the fan base wouldn't support cutting him. Their entire team is built around him to the point you go from playoff team to worst in the league if he gets injured. Not a winning recipe to have your entire team built aroun one guy like that. This is the NFL not the NBA. Now you draft supposedly the best QB in the draft since Peyton, lucky fucks

55 #51  If you think the questions about Kennedy were beased on soloely on legitimate questions about his religion,  you didn't live through that election in the Midwest (which I did).  My folks got letters accusing him of wanting to give government money to catholic schools, put a chapel in the White House, and have a hot line to the Pope.  And this was AFTER his speech.

Sure,  a lot of people have questions borne of curiosity.  And when some of the unusual practices are explained,  we see crap like "sacred underwear."  I am disgusted with it.  And a LOT of the questions are similar to the fake curiosity that Huckabee used on the radio in Oklahoma in 2008 and tried to deny he ever said later,  such as "Say,  isn't that the religion which believes Jesus and Satan were brothers?" 

56 The notion that Southern conservatives will stay home in large numbers and thereby reelect Obama is absurd.  They'll vote not because they like Romney but because the alternative is so bad. 

The relatively high votes for Santorum right now are a protest vote, not an expression of confidence in him.  Think about it.  If Romney weren't the frontrunner, Santorum would be done.  Very few, certainly not the 30% or so supporting Santorum now, were supporting him 6 months ago when he p0olled low single digits.   What does that tell you?

Protest votes are fine for primaries, although this season is going on way too long.  They'll go away in the general.

57 Landing in Atlanta. Ugh.

58 #53  One of my bestfriends lives in St. Louis and says that she is hearing it in her women's church group.

And I didn't say this was confined to the South.  One of my sisters (who is a democrat) has been mentioning it.  Yes,  it is being stirred up by the Obama people.  But there IS a segment of the population who is going right along.

59 18--Right, the unfortunate coincidence that some idiot also named Romney cooked up the worst piece of legislation in the nation's history has NOTHING to do with it. F*ckin unbelievable.

60 Vic, it's also not just his gun-grabbiness, it's Romneycare, and a host of other things.

61 33 I am well on my way to being a misanthrope.

Welcome to the club.  Now get off my lawn.

62 Upthread is a good point. Newt and Rick staying in perform a valuable service. They get all the negatives out before Obama does.

63 56--NC and VA in 08 being what, the exceptions that prove your rule?

64 #63

Just a point of semantics, but I think you might mean ethically challenged.

65 Are Romney's religious beliefs a valid point of discussion? Can we have that discussion without automatically assuming people who ask questions are bigots I agree. Let's determine bigotry based on the question. Example: Do Muslims pray for the violent and painful death of infidels? A: Yes. Conclusion: Not a bigoted question Q: Where do Lutherans get that silvery/blue hair dye? Slightly bigoted question.

66

7th circuit court of appeals says police can search cell phones without a warrant

 

From that article: "Defenbaugh says the ruling takes into account exigent or time-sensitive circumstances that could be life saving in more urgent cases, such as child abduction. ”If the child is alive and you’re only minutes behind, that could be critical to recovering that child alive,” added Defenbaugh."

 

Remember that.  It's for the children.  Even though the appeals court was ruling in a drug-dealing case.

 

For the children.

67 @64
No, they make the point.   They went for O in '08 because there were enough of them willing to suspend disbelief that he was what he so obviously was.  They wanted to vote for him because it was historic.  They can't do that a second time.

68 #48 Hell I wish he would go to Dallas and replace Romo. Even broken as he is, Peyton is so much better than Romo.

69 56 - Well said!  You can't just extrapolate what's happening in primaries to the general.  If 2008 didn't prove that point, nothing will ...  http://bit.ly/qVdDUt

70 Time sensitive circumstances, like a cop thinks he saw you texting, and pursuant to that he checks (takes?) the phone.

71 Good morning. Can't wait for the NJ/NY meet up.

72 The notion that Southern conservatives will stay home in large numbers and thereby reelect Obama is absurd.
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Nobody said a large number. But in those States that had razor thin margins (and NC & VA were just examples) it will not take a large number staying at home.

And I am not the only one saying this.  Some of the pundits are also saying it.

73

@35

 

Yep.  Just picked up another thousand rounds of 223 the other day.   

74 66 - See, I learned something today, I never knew there was a connection between Lutherans and silver/blue hair dye. As I'm sure you know, a lot of people think of the Lutheran Church as Catholic Lite. Is that bigoted? Misinformed? Overly simplistic/inaccurate? It is possible to be wrong, and even be somewhat insultingly so, but that doesn't mean bad intentions on the part of the person ignorant to the truth. Even your question above, do Muslims pray for violent... I'm sure you are aware there are millions and millions of Muslims around the world who do not subscribe to a violent interpretation of "jihad." And if you are not aware of that, it doesn't make you bigoted. Just uninformed, perhaps. As with so many other things in this world, it's not what you know/don't know, it's what you do with that knowledge or lack thereof.

75 The South won't vote FOR Obama. They will just not vote for Romney as a Fuck You vote for have a Northern Lefty rammed down their throats. Him being a Mormon gives an extra grin behind closed doors for those fundies who think Mormonism is a cult (and they are out there).

76 WASHINGTON -- The US offered to give Israel advanced weaponry -- including bunker-busting bombs and refueling planes -- in exchange for Israel's agreement not to attack Iranian nuclear sites, Israeli newspaper Maariv reported Thursday. President Obama reportedly made the offer during Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to Washington this week. Under the proposed deal, Israel would not attack Iran until 2013, after US elections in November this year. The newspaper cited unnamed Western diplomatic and intelligence sources. Some offer ha? I hope he told obama he can have his answer now: My answer is no and I'd appreciate if you pay for the weapons yourself obama

77 Tony Romo sucks yes ....try winning with Rex Fuckig Grossman.

78 Vic, it's also not just his gun-grabbiness, it's Romneycare, and a host of other things.

Posted by: GMan at March 08, 2012 07:32 AM (sxq57)

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Oh I agree, but I think the gun-grabbiness hurts him the most in the South.

79 I'm still annoyed about Panetta's statement yesterday. International approval is needed for military action, but not Congressional. The Constitution really is just a joke to them, isn't it?
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"THEM"?

"Promise them anything; just get their votes!" Even if you forced Romney to commit to the Constitution, he's not going to defer to constitutional constraints once gaining the Oval Office.

Romney launched his '12 campaign promising to bring the troops home from Afghanistan. That rhetoric disappeared in the wind when he decided to "prove" neoconservative bona fide credentials for Republican acceptability. Now Mitt touts war, war, more war, the virtues of war, having studied NONE of the detailed circumstances himself, promising to attack (Syria) Iran because he'd rather fear monger than prove inept at international diplomacy. As ever, Mitt will do as he's told by those who pull the strings -- anything to gain acceptability from GHWB's exclusionary circle.

You will not get different results from Romney than the unconstitutional "New World Order (GHWB)" policies established and endorsed by the Bush presidents, and augmented by Obama. Given this year's record, forget about Congress; it's already forfeited its own constitutional identity via "Super Congress." Must you wait to see where that leads? Who is surprised whenever DHS usurps more authority? Whatever "loyal opposition" Members of Congress who exist are already surrounded, under fire for not caving. Count many months/years before the public acknowledges that DHS "is" the US Government.

Mitt Romney's entire life is structured on the pyramid power paradigm of elitist "meritocracy" monopolization.

80 50 - Yeah, I caught that, regarding the connection between 4/20 and stoners. It's one of the reasons I'm skeptical, because even if these people have good intentions, I don't think they were unaware of the date's significance. Their whole message is, after all, raising awareness of what is happening in this world. Still, Kony is as real as villains get on this planet. I'm not necessarily opposed to whatever these people are up to. According to the video, btw, we have a small number of American troops in there, advising.

81 #79 Vic,

You could be right (likely are, as I'm not in the south so I don't know the sentiments there).

82 You could be right (likely are, as I'm not in the south so I don't know the sentiments there).

Posted by: GMan at March 08, 2012 07:55 AM (sxq57)

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White Southern males will NOT vote for a gun grabber no matter what his religion or where is from.

83 Hey fellow NY-area maroons. Unfortunately, it's my wife's birthday on Saturday, so I am taking her out. Doubly unfortunate is the fact that she is ultra-lib and so might no appreciate the finer points of moronitude - SCOAMF, kittehs, SMOD, the barbed cock of Satan et al - so raise one for me and a big one for Breitbart. Keep 'em flying!

84 And yes, the MACare hurts him too since that is the only thing he has not flip-flopped on.

85

@76

 

The south can see a marxist for what he is though.  So I think they might just over look the fact that Mitts a mormon if he gets the nod.  At least I hope they do...  

 

The good people of the south love America more than they hate mormons surely?

 

Maybe all the republican ads for our nominee should have Obama dressed in a Che shirt and a commie hat with a red star on it...    

86 Hey fellow NY-area maroons. Unfortunately, it's my wife's birthday on Saturday, so I am taking her out. Doubly unfortunate is the fact that she is ultra-lib and so might no appreciate the finer points of moronitude - SCOAMF, kittehs, SMOD, the barbed cock of Satan et al - so raise one for me and a big one for Breitbart. Keep 'em flying! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 08, 2012 07:57 AM (Af3Wg) But your still gonna send a donation for part of the check right?

87 Hear drooling imbecile Chuck Grassley talking about Fast & Furious this morning. He says an additional 4 R's called for Holders resignation. Apparently, crying Boehner is putting pressure on Congress not to pursue this any further. Nice.

88 Re video released by Breitbart on Hannity last night,  I just picked this up on Twitter from Lee Stranahan,  who is on the Breitbart team:

The more liberals talk about what a non-story Derrick Bell is, the better. May a thousand yawns echo throughout the liberal blogosphere!

Here's the thing some people don't get about the Breitbartian media rollouts -- we actually do kinda know what we're doing. Really.

89 Yikes!  Sorry for the big gaps in my post.  Read the words,  though,  please!

90

I predict Obama will do well in whatever county  Atlanta is in. No singular reason for this conclusion.

91 I predict Obama will do well in whatever county Atlanta is in.

Fulton county.

92

Care for a little DOOM with your SMOD entree? Or is it SMOD with your DOOM entree? [thinks what fork do I use]

93 If you want to depress yourself, go to NRO and find the post on Lisa McSlutski regretting her vote for the Blount amendment and why.  (She did vote for it, but now has stated she would not again.)

Then ask yourself, if she can't oppose the HHS mandate on contraception, how will you vote to repeal Obamacare as a whole if we get to that option?  Same for Snowe. If it's bad law...the entire law and it's fruit is bad. 

We're being prepped for no repeal.

94 So what's your question about Mormonism Burt? As I am sure you are aware, you've not asked it yet. And these millions of Muslims that you're sure that I'm aware of. Remind me when the rally was to denounce all the violent behavior. I'd settle for 10.

95 Miss Marple, "Tea Party" re-ignition, Really.
Breitbartian media rollouts

96 Well Morons got go take wife to appointment. bbl

97

People just need to remember the fact that if Romney is the nominee, and you don't vote for him in November, you are voting for Barak Obama.

 

At least have the guts to man up and admit you'll vote for Obama over Romney. I can respect that. But don't use this bullshit "enthusiasm" crap when the fact is a 2nd Obama term fucks this country for the next 20 years.

98 Gretchin just said the solar system is expected to last though tomorrow. Cool.

99 But don't use this bullshit "enthusiasm" crap when the fact is a 2nd Obama term OR a Romney term fucks this country for the next 20 years OR several generations.

FIFY

100 clean up on aisle 94

101 I think so long as the GOP circular firing squad continues, nobody can accurately predict - including the myriad of "Obama versus whoever" polls - how Zero will perform in the general. Once the primary is over and all guns are trained squarely on the SCOAMF, it's a whole different ballgame. Hope and Change is toast now that Barry has a record and the electorate is (mostly) awake. As for the rest of the masses, I will be part of the moron contigent working tirelessly this summer and fall, throttling awake every brain-dead, US Weekly-reading, Jersey Shore-watching, Academy Award-obsessed dingbat I know as to why it behooves them to get off their asses come November and help right the awful wrong we put in the White House three years ago.

102 Posted by: nic featuring a sex toy & a cartoon at March 08, 2012 07:31 AM (+kznc)

Hey!

103 98 is a classic of the genre.

104 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 08, 2012 07:57 AM (Af3Wg)

Bring her along!

Best case: She converts to strong conservatism through the force of our intellects.

Worst case: She divorces you for associating with a bunch of morons.

105 @80 So you're saying Obama is an acceptable alternative? Because, doing the math, this is who we are down to. Romney or Obama.

106 Warning: The insults and threats will continue until the enthusiasm for Romney improves.

107 Well,  I am sorry that you had a bad experience with one Mormon.  I don't think that is a reliable sample,  however,  even as using Ted Kennedy as an example of a Catholic would be a good idea.

The Mormon Church has its share of obnoxious people,  as does every other church in America. 

108 I'm all in for SMOD now.

109 So 105, you down with Barry for 4 more years? Btw ask polynikes and the other Romney fan club members, i was the biggest Perry fan til he dropped out. But its ok for you to vote Democratic this time. Its your right.

110 I think a lot of people this election year are going to come to the same conclusion that I did. The federal government is illegitimate. Therefore, a lot of people will not vote in federal elections to deny the government their consent.

111 Posted by: Miss Marple at March 08, 2012 08:20 AM (GoIUi)

I had an awful experience with a Mormon about 25 years ago.

I was at a wedding and sat next to Miss Utah of the previous year.

She wouldn't put out.

Mormons are horrible people.

QED

112 112--that's right Dick, its my vote. Your guy ain't getting it. But he'll be fine. He gets two Indie votes for every con. he loses, right? Thats what you guys keep saying.

113

WTOP, newsradio, Washington DC this morning covered with a Politico analyst the Obama Harvard video.  Their conclusion?   Obama still looks as good as he did 29 years ago, and speaks the same too!

 

114 Best case: She converts to strong conservatism through the force of our intellects. Worst case: She divorces you for associating with a bunch of morons. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 08, 2012 08:15 AM (nEUpB) I'll take option worse case for 1/2 the assets Alex

115 Oh, it is WAY to early for the cocksuckers to be out.

116 good morning! i refuse to be doom ridden today....the occupier of the white house is a scoamf!!!!!! he must be evicted!

117 Jobless numbers out. Zombie unemployed still staying away and continue to be ignored.

118 KABUL – The U.S. is investigating allegations that some officials in the Afghan Air Force, which was established largely with American funds, have been using aircraft to ferry narcotics and illegal weapons around the country, American officials told The Wall Street Journal. And you would expect anything different from these backwards animals?

119 115. At least you admit you support ObamA over Romney. I can live w that. Hope you can.

120 I'm not buying it Vic, but I'm not going to try and dissuade you. I also grew up in the South, and I think they are going to be broken glass voters. I think this election, if it is close (and I don't think it will be) will come down to Ohio, Nevada, and Colorado. No one is staying home because Romney's a "gun grabber" after Heller.

121 @121 Bizarre stuff like: virgin birth? zombie-like revivification on Easter morning? spitting in blind people's eyes so they can see?  Is that the bizarre stuff that makes you sure Mormon's are loopy?

122 Good morning!! {{{{phoenixgirl}}}} What a great way to start the day!!! As for Mormons, the worst supervisor I ever had was a Mormon, but I am trying lay the blame on the man, not the religion. Because he was a SCOAMF too. That said, I will vote for Romney, AGAINST Obama, not for Romney, because he is a Massachusetts Rino gun-grabbing, dog-hating jerk. But he's our gun-grabbing, dog-hating jerk, and I think he actually likes America. So there's that.

123 Please, President Wee Wee, make the solar flares subside!  We implore you.

124 Ok morans who here is old enough to remember the Pubbie primary of 1980 or even better Reagan's record as the gov of California? I was all in for Perry until just before he dropped out. But this race is not about Purity. And Romney is not Barack Obama.

125 small town girl, speaking truth to power.

126 Archer? Justified!

127 All I know about Mormonism comes from a South Park episode.

128 The sun is mad at us for not using it more than we do. It's in cahoots with mother earth. 

129 Khamenei welcomes Obama's remarks against strike Iran's supreme leader lauds US president's call for diplomacy instead of war on Iran's nuclear program, but blasts sanctions Outstanding! That really tells you all you need to know

130 With any luck, the supreme leader of Iran has about 11 months to live.

131 (((moki))) thank you...... small town girl......AMEN!!!!! perry was still on the ballot here so in the primary... i did vote for him....but in the general it's anyone but that scoamf........

132

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - New claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly rose last week, a government report showed on Thursday, but not enough to change perceptions that the labor market was strengthening.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits increased 8,000 to a seasonally adjusted 362,000, the Labor Department said. The prior week's figure was revised up to 354,000 from the previously reported 351,000. Even with the increases, claims are still near their lowest in four years.

Despite the rise in claims last week, labor market conditions are improving and the government is expected to report on Friday that the economy had a third straight month of solid job gains in February.

No matter how bad the news is comrades, MiniTrue will spin it all away

133 i was behind a truck yesterday with a bumper sticker that said...... RE-ELECT NO ONE

134

Is this something?

 

WASHINGTON -- The US offered to give Israel advanced weaponry -- including bunker-busting bombs and refueling planes -- in exchange for Israel's agreement not to attack Iranian nuclear sites, Israeli newspaper Maariv reported Thursday.

President Obama reportedly made the offer during Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to Washington this week.

Under the proposed deal, Israel would not attack Iran until 2013, after US elections in November this year. The newspaper cited unnamed Western diplomatic and intelligence sources.

135 Matt Yglesias - the whining continues.

"For example, it's a book largely dedicated to making the case for less regulation of urban and suburban land. The kind of thing that conservatives might be open to, were they need just in a fury of rage." - Matt Yglesias

"were they need just in a fury of rage." -- Seriously? The WaPo pays for that quality of writing.

http://tinyurl.com/7mr2uus

136 Posted by: nevergiveup at March 08, 2012 08:46 AM (i6RpT)

The Shia crazies in Iran are not, unfortunately, stupid as well. They see the weakness in the White House, and are gung-ho for a nuke that they will lob at Israel at the first opportunity.

You and I and some people around here understand that, but maybe most people are unwilling to admit the real reason Obama is demonstrating weakness: he hates Israel and he is no fan of the Jews. He is a typical "progressive" in his beliefs and actions.

137

I'm sure that Mitt Romney's very first act upon becoming President would be to call for a nationwide registration program for firearms. 'cause that's a national priority after all...puhleeze.  I heard the same crap about Giuliani in 08.  If the south wanted to unite behind their candidate, they could have given their backing to Perry. 

138 @138 That would be an OK deal, if what was on offer was a railgun or laser capable of knocking down an IRBM in the boost phase. Offering a bunker-buster on the condition it never be used is like a urologist saying he'll build daughter's boyfriend a 12-incher if he promises not to hit that.

When it comes to effective anti-missile defenses, it's more likely the Israelis would offer them to us. They've been working on that. We've been de-commissioning ours.

139 Anyone hearing what Barky said to Bibi should figure out that it's all about Barky, not about the security of one of our allies.  Can we trade leaders with Israel?

140

anybody see the CNN "interview" this a.m. of the BIG editor, where they kept interrupting him to say "I'll let you talk in a minute, I just think it's important for viewers to understand that Critical Race Theory is a REAL LEGAL THEORY and you don't understand it, you're wrong about it, and you don't know what you're talking about because you aren't a Harvard lawyer like the President or a Harvard professor like Bell.  It's real.  You're wrong.  It's a real theory.  You don't get it.  Of course you can talk, but in a minute because I want viewers to know that it's real and you're wrong."  (repeatrepeatrepeat)

 

So, looks like somebody doesn't want CRT discussed at all--it's apparently a meme that it's REALjusttakeourwordforitnowMOVE ALONG.

 

Hmmm

141 Right. Get Ben to change his name back, roll out the Libertarian VP candidate who was the first woman to get an electoral vote, and you can have Nathan/Nathan '12. Great for the kosher hot dog market.

142 That Barky is very intelligent is also a theory, doesn't make it true.

143
Lars Groteballen
Linking Mormon and Muslim faiths? A theology scholar in Jerusalem made the comparisons on "Heart of the Matter" at least a year ago. Ironic how comparisons play out since Mormons consider themselves adopted Israelites -- perhaps illustrating what all share in common. Such consternation. It could be argued on a different count the affinity which Mormonism would have with Gnosticism, though Mormons produce their own American "scripture" sprung from Joseph Smith Jr.'s affinity with the occult, rather than base faith/knowledge on either ancient Gnostic Christian traditions for experiential awareness or more specifically from the Gospel according to St. Thomas.

144 I guess the 32 odd CNN viewers will have to learn about CRT elsewhere. Or nowhere at all.

145 140-CBD, have you ever read Guests of the Ayatolloah? It's about the 444 days our Embassy staff were held by the shia "crazies." There was nothing spontaneous or "student" led about that operation, it was carefully planned and executed. That book should be must-read material for anyone who is going to be working on US-Iran policy. Because we are not dealing with bedouin sheep herders. The Iranians are smart and dedicated.

146 The great hole left by Monty's departure remains unfilled I see.

147  108 small town girl. Whether Obama or Obamalite, no distinction from Office. You endorse the predestined condemnation of Liberty. I won't.

148 148, people who hear about it will now have that interview to confirm for their 22 brain cells that occasionally bump together that it's REAL and anyone who doesn't think so is WRONG.  Mmmm mmmm mmmmm

149 The Obama tapes ... were they a dud? Anything there? My feeling is it would take an Anthony Weiner type scandal to make people notice. This Obama is radical didn't work in '08 it certainly isn't going to work now.

150 Is this something? WASHINGTON -- The US offered to give Israel advanced weaponry -- including bunker-busting bombs and refueling planes -- in exchange for Israel's agreement not to attack Iranian nuclear sites, Israeli newspaper Maariv reported Thursday. President Obama reportedly made the offer during Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to Washington this week. Under the proposed deal, Israel would not attack Iran until 2013, after US elections in November this year. The newspaper cited unnamed Western diplomatic and intelligence sources. Posted by: Jimmah at March 08, 2012 08:51 AM (sv7B2) Is this something--Yes. A giant fuck you to Israel and I hope Israel said fuck you right back

151 Damn it, great article at the Examiner discussing Ras polls, but I can't tiny URL from an iPad. URL in my name I guess

152 Under the proposed deal, Israel would not attack Iran until 2013, after US elections in November this year. The newspaper cited unnamed Western diplomatic and intelligence sources.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 08, 2012 08:51 AM (sv7B2)

It's almost as if Barry is playing politics with the safety of the world. Good thing our intrepid news media is on this

153 >>As I'm sure you know, a lot of people think of the Lutheran Church as Catholic Lite. Is that bigoted? Misinformed? Overly simplistic/inaccurate?

As far as I can tell, the ELCA Lutherans have tossed out the Bible in favor of New Age feel-good crap. Signed an accord with the Episcopalians a few years ago saying, "Yeah, whatever you believe, so do we." The last ELCA service I attended had a sermon about Taoist principles.

OTOH, the Missouri Synod hates single women. God created women to marry and spawn, and so by not, I'm flipping him the bird or something.  (If God wanted me to be married, he shouldn't have created me so fluking ugly.)

I'd try out the new synod that split off if there was one in my area. My grandfather's church in Ohio went with them, but it's a two-hour drive.

154

154, what it may do if there's more is allow everything that was brushed under the rug in 08 (oh, is Rev Wright a hatemonger?  Wow, in 20 years I never noticed.  OK, I won't go to church there anymore.  Now, about making those oceans recede...) to actually be examined and discussed.

 

and everytime someone changes the subject to free contraception or the necessity to pour more billions into energy from unicorn farts, we can point out that the oceans neither receded nor rose, and how bout that debt?  unemployment?  crony stimulus?

155

Am I the only one who was screaming with laughter yesterday after hearing the news clip of that brazen lottery winner "well, I took a lump sum payout so that was only $750,000"

 

yeah, crazy town chick, obviously someone with $750,000 still needs to have the state pay for their food why the heck not. You know where the state should be paying for your food? In jail. After you are convicted of de-frauding the state.

156

--that's right Dick, its my vote. Your guy ain't getting it<<<<

 

Oooooo! What a rugged individual you are!  THAT will teach us a lesson. What a fucking slapdick. No one cares about your vote, Ronulan. Get your ass back in the fucking mothership.

157 The Obama tapes ... were they a dud? Anything there?

They say they've only just begun.

158 I believe that what Defense Secretary Panetta was trying to communicate, as a representative of the Obama School of Military Genius, is confirmation that he and the military are about to go Rogue.

159

Posted by: stu at March 08, 2012 07:18 AM (uhPd1)

 

Colorado went big for Romney last time.  We just got stuck with a non-binding caucus and he. quit. the. next. day.  Got that?  No one had a problem with the Mormon thing.  He.  Quit.  And that being the case, I have no clue how he'd do this time since I've been out of state for two years.

160 Vic @53

I assure you the "anti-Mormon thing" is not a figment of anyone's imagination here in the heartland where they were driven out twice...first from Missouri and subsequently from Illinois. 

The history of Mormonism in the Midwest is not a happy one.  We look back today and wonder what could possibly have caused the local populace to rise up and eject an entire group from their midst.  When we search for the answers we find very little on the internet or in print.  What objective coverage hasn't been scrubbed has been overwhelmed by Mormons' iron-willed attempt to remake their image.

Those of us who live here and study the area know the history.  We know the truth...that Mormons were driven out because they overwhelmed the local population culturally, spiritually, economically and often physically.  They expected land to be given to them and laws to exclude them.  They isolated themselves from social interaction with their neighbors except for relentless proselytizing and wanted newspapers censored on their behalf. 

Mormons had a single-mindedness of purpose that would be the envy of any political system and you see that today in Mitt Romney's campaign.  Today they are still relentless in pursuit of their goals, which has allowed them to reclaim Nauvoo, Illinois...the city they were expelled from in the winter of 1838/39.  Their dogged determination to win the White House found two of them running for President this year for a time...in a country where they comprise 1.7% of the population.  Above all, their goal is to prevail.

Please understand this is not a condemnation of Mormons themselves.  But you need to know the history and goals of the church in order to evaluate Mitt Romney as a candidate. 

Go here to do that:  http://www.lds-mormon.com/

OK.  Now flame away.

161 panzerhashorn, You're not Elaine Pagels, are you? I don't link. I observe that, in my lifetime, Islam is the only religion that blows stuff up in an organized fashion.

162

Thank you Dick Nixon. (I always liked you).

 

o/t BTW, if you're ever in the gym and doing your normal routine and see the circuit training and think "oh, that doesn't look bad" and then 3/4 of the way through you realize it's kicking your ass? Make sure you have meds and heat because the next day you are wrecked. Am I typing sore? Is this how Sandra Fluke feels all the time? Owwww.

163 Yeh, PG, I posted that yesterday and it gave me a headache. Well, they didn't stop paying me, so I figured it was okay. Argh!

164 So Instapundit wonders: >>The political reaction to “slut” was opportunistic, of course, but it worked with a lot of women because — apparently, even in this age of sexual liberation and “slut pride” — women are still somehow deeply affected by charges of wanton and undiscriminating sexual behavior. This might even account for the importance of the contraceptive issue, because mandated contraceptive coverage may be seen as representing not just a modest monetary benefit, but also perhaps some sort of societal validation. I would have thought that a strong independent woman wouldn’t need a stamp of societal approval for her choices, but apparently I would have been wrong. I leave it to the evolutionary-psych folks to work out why the “slut” charge retains such power in liberated times. end quote. I'm thinking women don't want another woman in their group/tribe if they think that woman will steal their men.

165 160

That woman will be destitute in a few years.  She's steeped in the poverty mentality.

166 >>Gretchin just said the solar system is expected to last though tomorrow. Cool. I blame the lack of a Doooom thread.

167

This anti-Mormon thing is a figment of the MFM who invariably hates the South. Its all Mississippi burning to them all the time.

 

THIS.  I'm so sick of the assumption being bigotry everytime someone disagrees with Mitt on policy.  There's stuff to not like about Mitt.  There's stuff to not like about all of the candidates.  It does the MFM's job for them when conservatives try to focus on just one factor as the reason for lack of support.  It's not significantly different from the race-card, because it allows a candidate to not listen to legitimate concerns, and it's getting old just as fast.

168 try winning with Rex Fuckig Grossman.

Yea but he was more confident last year.  He'd get right back in there after a pic6 and throw another.

169

I think there is a HUGE anti-mormon bias at work here. People don't like people they find different because they are threatened. The people in the heartland and in the deep south are probably going to have a bigger mormon bias than the coasts---wait for it----NOT because the coasties are somehow more tolerant but here on the coast the Mormon isn't nearly as strange as Akbar and his 20 burkaed wives, Alejandro and his pupusa cart, Vietnamese diet choices, the Nigerian nannies, and the libtard hippies. Walk a day in the Eden center in Arlington and then tell me Mormonism has either a strange history or practices. It looks like apple pie comparitively.

170

@dagny

 

Yeah, last night was first workout in 5 weeks due to work (squats). I could barely navigate the stairs today. Tomorrow will be worse.

171 Why doesn't Lovie Smith put Obama in at QB? He's Af.Am.

172 I'm relieved to know the solar system will continue through tomorrow. Nice solar system you got there, be a shame if anything happened to it.

173 Posted by: moki at March 08, 2012 09:01 AM (dZmFh)

I agree completely.

When I described them as "crazies," I meant from the perspective of their apocalyptic vision for the world. But they are intelligent, crafty, patient and dedicated.

174 You should see MY videos.

175 @ Matt in Maine,
Southerners will stay home if there's a Hispanic on the ticket. They view Hispanics as racially inferior.

176 Who's a better pickup:  Train Rex Grossman or Peyton Manning?  It's a tough decision.

177 Police can check your phone. Next up better be encrypted memory and drive space on smartphones.

As long as they're just looking up what is public anyways (call lists, text recepients sp?, etc.) all they're doing is taking minutes to do a search that would take an hour or so to roundtrip to/from the carrier.

There are encryption apps on Android Market.

178 @ Lars Groteballen,
If a prominent Italian-America came out and said they should support Santorum, would that piss you off?

179 I'm thinking women don't want another woman in their group/tribe if they think that woman will steal their men.

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 08, 2012 09:14 AM (XdlcF)

 

That's just common sense.  On the tribal level, even higher really, being replaced would be a disaster for a woman and any children she had.

180

FBI director says he will have to review Holder's criteria to determine if the administration could target American citizens for execution without a trial in the U.S. Remember the flap over this in that new law which they said did not allow that?

Posted by: Vic at March 08, 2012 06:32 AM (YdQQY)

---------------------------

Wow, Vic:

Read the article and the FBI Director's answer was pretty scary. Sure wasn't a definitive "no" to the question if this administration thought it had the authority to purposely kill rather than attempt to arrest U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

 

P.S. Hope you and Mrs. Vic are doing better.  I know you've been having health problems.

181 166 panzerhashorn,

You're not Elaine Pagels, are you?

Now that right there is funny!

182 It's not all bigotry, but when someone spends all their time proclaiming their hatred for Yankees, Northerners, Northeastern Republicans, etc. then obviously nobody believes them when they say "Well, this time I really considered him as an individual" while they're rattling off the same list of grievances they've held their whole lives. It's pretty simple really. If you identify yourself by your biases, don't expect people to take you seriously when an object of one of those biases is at issue.

183 But your still gonna send a donation for part of the check right? Posted by: nevergiveup at March 08, 2012 08:00 AM (i6RpT) 106 - Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 08, 2012 08:15 AM (nEUpB) Just put it on the Underhill's tab...

184 @ Lars Groteballen, If a prominent Italian-America came out and said they should support Santorum, would that piss you off? Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 09:25 AM (5TzUw) Depends. Is it the Olive Garden guy or the Carrabas guy?

185 Why doesn't Lovie Smith put Obama in at QB? He's Af.Am.

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 08, 2012 09:19 AM (nJS0L)

He should. Barry's got a great throwing arm and he's black. Or at least half black and that's all that should matter to Dummy Smith

186

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 08, 2012 09:27 AM (hiMsy)

 

But that would be northern bigotry, not Mormon bigotry which is what the assumption has been.  My guess is that religious bigotry is considered a worse charge, possibly with good reason, than regional bigotry so that's the one used with no checking to see if the charge is accurate.

187 @189 Lincolntf,
Well said!

188 >>That's just common sense. Yeh, I thought so, but Glenn didn't jump right on that theme and was wondering what made the "slut" charge so bad.

189 Go here to do that: http://www.lds-mormon.com/

OK. Now flame away.

Posted by: creeper at March 08, 2012 09:11 AM (gre5a)

----------------------

 

Did you ever read about the crusades by any chance?

190 Feel free to put "Group X" in the place of the Northerners, etc. I'm on Bberry and tried to make it short.

191 I now understand why Andy Reid is so all-powerful, determined, and well, frankly, enormous. I didn't make the Mormon connection before. COME ON! Clearly there is this bias vis-a-vis Mormons going on. And don't tell me Southern WASPs looooove Italian Catholics. I lived in LA for many years growing up. It's like we had two heads. But I guess we're better than fracking Mormons, huh? News from Pennsy - happy to report our Voter ID bill has passed the House and Senate, just waiting for Corbett to sign. THIS IS HUGE! Am really happy. Partly makes up for us all being union slaves here

192 Achilles, If you owned the Chicago Bears and Lovie Smith started Al Roker at QB, and Juan Williams at the slot, would you be pissed?

193 My real concern with the assumption of bigotry is that there's the corrosponding assumption of pervasiveness.  There are certainly bigots in (and against) any group, but the fact that some nit-wit can be found to spew stupidity on the airwaves is not automatically a sign that the general population feels the same way.

194 ..and Thomas Sowell at strong safety. For balance.

195 176
@dagny

Yeah, last night was first workout in 5 weeks due to work (squats). I could barely navigate the stairs today. Tomorrow will be worse.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2012 09:18 AM (EgUGc)

I took off a month to paint the entire inside of my house. You would think that was physical enough not to make me completely atrophied. Other women don't do this.

196 corrosponding  Drat, gotta check my spelling better.

197 #167

Not heat.  Ice.  Ice helps.

198

News from Pennsy - happy to report our Voter ID bill has passed the House and Senate, just waiting for Corbett to sign. THIS IS HUGE! Am really happy. Partly makes up for us all being union slaves here

 

That is indeed good news.  If we had an actual Justice Dept. it would be great news. 

199 dagny, my husband hurt his back (almost better now) so I had to do the mowing and trimming this weekend. My arms were aching. I was in much better shape last year when I had to do all of that the whole time...gotta get back in the workout routine.

200

Not heat. Ice. Ice helps.

Posted by: GMan at March 08, 2012 09:38 AM (sxq57)

 

Yes, this is very important.  Heat will feel good quickly but increase swelling.

201 What is this "Archer" business?
Tv cartoon spy,  James Bond * AOS lifestyle drinking and quips.

202

I, for one, would just like to thank Stuck on Stupid, AB, BoN (Balls O' Neutronium), Pbuh, for giving me a story worth looking forward to every evening besides the endless back-biting that is all things this stupid, already lost election.

 

How I look forward to that glorious day when SoS (AB, BoN, Pbuh) strolls out of the Circle K for the final time, head held high and accompanied by Barney Fife, lightly gripping a satchel containing a cashiers check for one meeeeellion dooooooollars and the various man and lady parts of all of the idiots who dared to fuck with him. 

 

The epic re-cap post and comments section to follow will probably reach 2000 comments covering three and a half days.  As will the follow-up story several years later when it is revealed that SoS (AB, BoN, Pbuh) has parlayed his cool million into billions, selling his essence (blood transfusions - what the hell were you guys thinkng he was selling?!?!?!) on e-bay for $5,000 an ounce to millions of pussified American metrosexual males.

 

For tonight's installment . . .

203

Posted by: runninrebel at March 08, 2012 09:39 AM (N/1Dm)

 

Exactly, they threaten the social order for their personal benefit and gratification.  You know....I've never called Fluke a slut, but under that definition she probably qualifies.

204 I worked with lots of Mormons over the years in Software Engineering.  Good guys all.  Sober.  Big families.  No prosyletizing at work.  One guy did give everyone in the dept. a Book of Mormon for Christmas.  No big deal.

205 Lars Grotenballen, you posted Mormon with Muslim in your own comment, to which I responded most certainly not as Pagels.

"Islam is the only religion that blows stuff up in an organized fashion."

Both the Republican and Democrat Parties' LEADERSHIP endorse Statism wherein the State IS the Religion/god.

"Lifetime?" Were you born yesterday, not to recall the Irish Catholic/Protestant war? How convenient that you limit what a religion does to your lifetime. Otherwise, you'd be confronted by the Mormon War, wherein Brigham Young ordered the membership organized to fight the US Army, including blowing up arms supplies and depleting food supplies. That's still not considering the historical conflicts between ROMAN Christianity and anything else, having enabled and conducted the death of the Byzantine Christians, given up the monopoly fight against Protestantism (still excluding Mormon baptism), I merely note that the Western Christians represented by the "evangelical" neoconservative Republicans remain in denial of anything Eastern being relevant or "good", whether Christian, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Hindu, Jain, Sikh, etc.

Not so many months ago, Ace posted to "pray" that Pakistan attack India in order to relieve tensions between the US and Pakistan over the indigenous mountain tribal persistent defiance bordering Afghanistan. The American neoconservative war drums were beating to attack Pakistan.

Radical? Forcing people to vote for Obamalite GHWB Romney, the only "sane" candidate.

206 Polliwog: My question is all about pervasiveness.  I get that some people, including some generally nice people on AoSHQ think Mormonism is a cult, or that members of the The Church of Jesus Christ are not Christians, and as a result, will never vote for Mitt Romney.  I just don't know if that is a small, very vocal minority, or a large, mostly silent plurality.  I tend to think the former, but like I said above, I underestimate anti-Mormon sentiment sometimes.

207 >>the charge of "slut" is synonymous with "saboteur." Yep. If a modern woman want to sleep around with other men, that's her choice, blah blah blah. But the 's' word implies a lack of boundaries.

208 robtr @196:  "Did you ever read about the crusades by any chance?"

I did.  Could you be a little more specific as to your point?

209 Everyone ready for the good jobs news coming out tomorrow!?! Should be worth another point or two added to Obama's already big lead over the helpless Romney.

210

Posted by: Matt in Maine at March 08, 2012 09:44 AM (gWLRb)

 

I'm pretty confident that it's a minority with the caveat, in the states I've been in/i] which certainly isn't all of them. 

 

My concern about the assumption of bigotry is that, like the race card, it removes the responsibilty of checking policy to see if there's a legitimate complaint. 

211 I guess I'm hung up on Religion vs. denomination. And I'll still be expecting you to vote for Obamalite, or else. You hear me? Don't call my bluff.

212 OK Heretics, We have to work together in the Fall to eject the SCOAMT from office.

213 @ Lars Groteballen

What if an Italian American started Italians at QB, would you be mad? My point is, too many whites fake outrage when Blacks say they will support their own. Yet when Italians, Irish or Southern Whites say they will support their own, they don't get mad. It's hypocrisy.

214 Stupid formatting and not closing tags!  At least it doesn't invade everyone else's posts any more.

215 Husband and I have been on the kids for using harsh language with each other. Mostly as a joke, I said "that's it; you're giving up saying 'idiot' and 'shut up' for Lent!" Now when one of them says something they shouldn't have, another one yells "LENT!!!" as a reminder to shape up. Not quite how I imagined it going...

216 Did anyone notice that unemployment "UNEXPECTED" went up?

I love that.  Reuters considers it unexpected.

217 #198 Ya beat me to it.  No news more important today than a Voter ID bill passing in Pennsylvania.  Seriously, Democrats may never win another national election if this law stands, and IF the state enforces it.  I am a little skeptical about the latter.  Does Corbett have the nads to send deputies into the heart of West Philly and make sure people have IDs?  Does the GOP have the stones to have people watching for the buses from NYC bringing in all the voters?  We have documented incidents of guns being pulled on Republican poll watchers in some of these areas.  Voting places in union halls and in Democratic state senators' homes.    

218 It just occurred to me that the Left is using regulations and legislation on the insurance industry to push socialism by a different route.  They're just using a nominally-private industry to do it.

219

Yet when Italians, Irish or Southern Whites say they will support their own, they don't get mad. It's hypocrisy.

 

Isn't that what this whole discussion about?  The assumption of bigotry on the part of other whites? 

220 >>Most importantly, you need to get proper sleep and time off See, I totally knew that, which is why I never finished trimming the front yard. And now it's going to rain for a week.

221 It's call "Corporatism".  Big Business and Big Govt. working together to stifle small business and competition.

222
News from Pennsy - happy to report our Voter ID bill has passed the House and Senate, just waiting for Corbett to sign. THIS IS HUGE! Am really happy. Partly makes up for us all being union slaves here

Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 08, 2012 09:33 AM (SB0V2)

And, of course, the ACLU, Democrats, unions and other left wing groups are throwing a hissy fit over it.

223

Posted by: Mama AJ at March 08, 2012 09:50 AM (XdlcF)

 

Lol.  Wish I'd thought of that.

224 #225 I am a youth group advisor at my church, and when we met before Lent I asked them all what would be the hardest thing for them to give up.  A surprising number of them said "cursing,"  including most of the girls. At least it was a surprise to me.  

225 My point is, too many whites fake outrage when Blacks say they will support their own. Yet when Italians, Irish or Southern Whites say they will support their own, they don't get mad. It's hypocrisy.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 09:49 AM (5TzUw)

Hi I'm Mike McCarthy, Head Coach of the Green Bay Packers. I'm supporting Mitt Romney because he's white and I want you whites to do the same. If that happened I'm guessing that McCarthy would be out of a job.

226

what the hell does this mean from Bloomberg :

"

The number of Americans filing claims for jobless benefits rose to 362,000 last week, a level consistent with an improving labor market. .."

 

more file and it improved ???

227 lol, Mama AJ, at least they aren't using Lent as a "bad" word. 

228 It's going to be rough to enforce, rockmom, Ed. There are a lot of shenanigans that go on in Philly. It's really bad. But . . . it's a start. I hold out hope. Am still pissed they let illegals count for the census. We should have lost another damn seat (and CA should have lost more than one or two!)

229 @ Polliwog,
I left the Republican Party because its all about White resentment. As someone Italian-Brazilian roots, I don't feel comfortable being a Republican. They want some Anglo-Saxon theocracy and I'm not with that. White Republicans always claim victim hood, but they are very bigoted themselves. The GOP aint for me. Its sad, because I agree with them 80%. But they want a Whites only party.

230

Posted by: nickless at March 08, 2012 09:52 AM (MMC8r)

 

Indeed.  The "corporate/ beaurecratic(sp?) complex" is a much greater danger to the than the "military/industrial complex" could ever hope to be.

231 Whether Obama or Obamalite, no distinction from Office. You endorse the predestined condemnation of Liberty. I won't.

What I endorse (because these are the only choices I'm left with) is choosing an ulcer versus being drawn and quartered.  At least with an ulcer, there is a good chance at containing some damage until it's gone.  If I'm drawn and quartered, I'm dead.  It's over. 

As for asking Israel to wait until after 2013 to attack Iran....I literally LOL'd. 

232 "The number of Americans filing claims for jobless benefits rose to 362,000 last week, a level consistent with an improving labor market..." more file and it improved ???" Yes, compare the number to last year. The previous month was the lowest in four years. Gonna be a hoot coming here tomorrow when the good jobs numbers come out and that's the big story of the day.

233 @235TheQuietMan

What about the Mormons supporting Romney becasue he's Mormon? Is that OK? WHat about Kennedy getting 80% of the Irish vote in 1960 because he's Irish?

If an Italian-American head coach said I am supporting Santorum because he's Italian, would that anger you?

You wouldn't say jack!

234

Posted by: runninrebel at March 08, 2012 09:58 AM (N/1Dm)

 

Very true.  Women with no sexual boudaries create an "arms race" effect that doesn't end well. 

235 @152 my opinion is that liberty in the USA has been compromised for quite some time and my experience indicates that under this president the destruction of personal liberty has been vastly accelerated. Another 4 years of Obama and we go off the cliff at high speed, no brakes. I'm not willing go do that to my kids or their future offspring all the while stating I'm some kind of Purest. Your name is curious: I can't decide if you affiliate as an Indian rhino or a German tank.

236 Matt in Maine @213:  "I just don't know if that is a small, very vocal minority, or a large, mostly silent plurality."

I think it's probably a small minority.  What negative information on Mormonism remains on the internet is buried beneath pages and pages and pages of pro-Mormon sites.  The history is pretty well white-washed.  Even in the Midwest, where the story played out, most people remain ignorant of the facts and those who do know them seem to want to just put it behind us. 

I understand that desire but I believe Santayana was right.  The world is not reborn anew every day.  Its current condition is the product of the years that went before and we would be ill-advised to forget them.

On a personal note, I oppose Romney as the Rep candidate but my opposition has only tangentially to do with his religion.  It stems from his actions as Governor of Massachusetts and his obviously liberal leanings.  I think hard pursuit of goals is an admirable quality in a candidate.  It is the goals themselves that I question.

237 The thing that gets me about the Kony video is that you just know that, within six months to a year, the Left will totally lose interest and say that the presence of one hundred Green Berets in Uganda is just another example of American "imperialism".

238

"They want some Anglo-Saxon theocracy and I'm not with that."

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 09:58 AM (p+4lN)

 

Thank you for making your position very clear.

 

Has this guy been here before?  I can't remember how to check hashes. 

239 boudaries Bother, *boundries*  I hope that's right this time. 

240 Archilles, I just want to let you know that I'm with you 110%.

241

Yes, compare the number to last year. The previous month was the lowest in four years. Gonna be a hoot coming here tomorrow when the good jobs numbers come out and that's the big story of the day.

Posted by: Greg at March 08, 2012 09:59 AM (J3Ovp)

But you're a 'true conservative,' right, Gweg?

242 The TV show "Dallas".  J.R. Ewing referred to someone as a "gutterslut."  That was the first time I heard the word on broadcast TV.

243 Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:00 AM (p+4lN)



I was talking about the reaction to another head coach doing what Lovie did. Imagine ESPN's bleating and the rest of the league getting all up in arms over it including probably a lot of players. He wouldn't last the week but Lovie is immune from criticism.

244 @249 polliwog,

Your in denial about the bigotry in your won party.

245

Well, my hope is that we get a new Justice Department in January that will actually start prosecuting voter fraud in places like Philly.  If we can just document it this time, we can get some perps throwen in jail and maybe have a fighting chance of a clean election in 2016. 

 

I get seriously pissed at liberal elites like Gene Robinson who think this vote fraud stuff is nonsense.  They have no clue what really goes on in the inner cities of Philadelphia, Newark, Camden, Baltimore, Cleveland, Chiago, Gary, etc.  Local unions and Democrat machines have this down to a science.  People are bussed in from the safe states into cities in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania.  They vote, they get a hot meal and probably a few bucks, and they are taken home.   Democrats send people around to fill out and collect absentee ballots from infirm people in nursing homes and hospitals.  In 2006 they were caught sending people into prisons in PA to get absentee ballots from felons who were not even legally able to vote - at the same time they did everything possible to delay sending ballots to soldiers overseas. 

246

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2012 10:05 AM (1Jaio)

 

He's a troll on a "repent ye racist Republicans so I may rejoin you" kick.

247 @TheQuietMan

I will ask the question again. If an Italian American coach made the same comments about Santorum, would you be outraged?

You know you wouldn't. Its only when Blacks want to support their own is when Republicans throw a bitch fit. If Irish, Italians, Southern Whites, Mormons and other groups support their own, silence from Republicans.

248 Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:00 AM (p+4lN)




And another thing, I don't give a shit what anybody is. If they are a carbon copy of me but support left wing BS, I wouldn't vote for them. I'm white but would vote for Allen West in a second because of what he stands for, I couldn't care less about his skin color or religion. I support people based on what they stand for, unlike Dummy Smith

249 Hang on there Achilles. Let's make sure we're not comparing apples to bananas. (denounced) Let's say your Italian Coach has played his Uncle Vito for the past 3 years and he's sucked donkey. 0 for 51. And now Coach DeNunzio wants to start Vito again this year because he's Italian. Would that be bad? Where's you outrage at the name-calling of Col. Allen West, by wait for it, blacks? So to my black brothers I say be proud of your people. Support all your people. Promote competence for your people.

250 If an Italian-American head coach said I am supporting Santorum because he's Italian, would that anger you?

You wouldn't say jack!

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:00 AM (p+4lN)

Bullshit, asshole.  I'd say that was fucking stupid.

251

Your in denial about the bigotry in your won party.

 

And thrilled to know I'm not the only one in denial of an inability to spell.

252

Achilles at March 08, 2012 09:58 AM

 

Preach on brother. Say, are you white?

253 Southerners will stay home if there's a Hispanic on the ticket. They view Hispanics as racially inferior.

.............

Ridiculous.  Nearly all of your comments thus far attribute so many unsubstantiated racist inclinations of the Republican party and southerners.  I'm in the south.  Your supposition is preposterous. 

254 @257 Polliwog,
I would rejoin the GOP is did stop the White resentment crap. The Democrats want to shred the Constitution and create a Marxist state. But the GOP's answer of White American based National Socialism is not the answer. SO I am stuck voting Libertarian until the GOP stops its White resentment crap.

255

And thrilled to know I'm not the only one in denial ofan inability to spell.

 

Lol, what a time for formatting to steal my precious spaces.

256 Southerners will stay home if there's a Hispanic on the ticket. They view Hispanics as racially inferior.

Rubio?

Let's count the 'hispanic' Republicans in the south, shall we?

257 White Republicans always claim victim hood, but they are very bigoted themselves. The GOP aint for me. Its sad, because I agree with them 80%. But they want a Whites only party.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 09:58 AM (p+4lN)

Oh dear, it's an "ex-Republican". Funny when Republicans have the first female Hispanic governor it didn't get much if any news coverage. Or Republicans or more specifically conservatives support Allen West we're the "Whites only" party. You're a Democrat troll. Go fluke yourself

258 @265 Lady,
SO why do Southern Whites call Hispanics wet backs, mud people and roaches? That's pure bigotry. I lived in a Southern State and encountered the racism first hand. Even though I can pass for WHite, the fact I had a Portuguese last name which is close to Hispanic sounding, I was treated like dirt.

259 Sorry I wasted all those keystrokes before I realized what a fucking bigot you are there Achilles. No party needs bigots like you. But the Dems will take you.

260

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:11 AM (5TzUw)

 

Ah, Trolltype:  Luap Nor afficianado.  It's bad enough having to deal with the astro turf.  This is just lame.

261 And the 'No, Really, We Libertarians aren't all Nuts' premise takes another hit.

262 @269 Go fluke yourself

I depise that Bitch Fluke. She wants me to pay for her birth control. SHe should pay for it herself. I am no Democratc.

Back on subject, Yes they may have voted in a Hispanic Governor or Black Congressman. Not all Republicans are racists. But there is a White Supremacists element in the GOP. These miniroties they elected were really fig leaves to prove they are not racists. Its the same reason Democratcs voted in the Obama.

263

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2012 10:13 AM (1Jaio)

 

Pesky things like facts aren't going to stop him from telling us how ashamed of ourselves we should be.  If we change to be just like him we will be worthy of returning to his fellowship.

264 And any popular Republicans of non-white race are of course, tokens, Uncle Toms, and House _______-ers.  They're the exceptions that prove the premise.

Of course.

265 @nickless

Rubio is from South Florida which isn't the South. Rubio would not have won if North Florida was a separate state and he ran for Senator. Look at all the Conservatives saying Rubio is ineligible to be President. If his parents were from England or Ireland, Republicans would be questioning Rubio's eligibility.

266

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:13 AM (YQqq9)

 

Look, it's certainly a shame that idiotic individuals spewed their idiocy in your direction.  If you demand we fix that for you you'll find that neither they nor you will get a lot of sympathy here

267 I agree there's a racist element in the GOP.  But Ron Paul refuses to leave.

268 242. Romney, given the current trajectory, is advocating more wars without logic. You assume without substantiation that Romney will not draw and quarter you, but only promote ulcers. I'm not buying more Obama hopenchange, regardless of who is vending.

269 @275 Polliwog

Why do Republicans label all Hispanics as illegals and talk about the "invaders". That's racism and the reason Obama will win the Latin vote by a huge margin. The GOP has pushed away people who should be their natural allies over White resentment.

270

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:19 AM (YQqq9)

 

We'd rather he not be president yet because he's a noob.  In a couple of years it would be wonderful, as long as he reamins conservative.

271 Not all Republicans are racists. But there is a White Supremacists element in the GOP. These miniroties they elected were really fig leaves to prove they are not racists. Its the same reason Democratcs voted in the Obama.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:16 AM (YQqq9)

You are aware of Robert Byrd's political and private affiliations? So the Democrats are racists too? My my, the whole world is against you

272

Posted by: nickless at March 08, 2012 10:20 AM (MMC8r)

 

Thank you for that giggle.

273 @279 nickless

Ron Paul doesn't demonize Hispanics like other Republicans do.

274 Curiously, Brazilians are known to be very racist against their indigenous peoples. They're working on it. Maybe if they hired an Italian/Irish/American coach, they could win that battle.

275

,
I left the Republican Party because its all about White resentment. As someone Italian-Brazilian roots, I don't feel comfortable being a Republican. They want some Anglo-Saxon theocracy and I'm not with that. White Republicans always claim victim hood, but they are very bigoted themselves. The GOP aint for me. Its sad, because I agree with them 80%. But they want a Whites only party.<<<<

 

Sayonara, dago.  Obviously someone was asleep in the membership application department when you signed up, darkie. Otherwise we never would have accepted you into the GOP. Rest assured the negligent party will be punished.

 

Kudos to you for self-banishing and saving yourself the indignity of having us burn a cross on your lawn. Good luck in your future endeavors.  You will need it, wop, because The Man is constantly inventing new ways to keep your guinea ass down.

 

Yours in Christ,

 

Empire of Jeff

GOP Jackboot Division

Badge #4662

276

Why do Republicans label all Hispanics as illegals and talk about the "invaders".

 

Don't your fingers get sore making those straw men?  Or do you buy them buy the dozen? 

277 283 TheQuietMan

The Democrats are racists. They want minorities to be their slaves. Republicans want to throw Mexicans in particular into death camps. Both are evil in my opinion.

278 @270

I've never even heard of your last two terms.  One would have to assume that your being treated "like dirt" was from all those people who wore their Republican Party t-shirts, correct?  You got treated poorly, then promptly asked for party affiliation, is that it?  I have seen and read the most horrendous things from liberals directed at whites, blacks and Hispanics...if their ideology wasn't strictly progressive.  The kind of rhetoric that is vicious, vile, frothing, unhinged hatred.  And that includes every racial epithet in the book.  Wildly out of control, batshit crazy hatred.  If you deny that, you are willfully 1) blind or 2) trying to start Republicans=racists crap.  Try as you might, it's no more true than a liberal's bigotry towards anyone that isn't of their group think.  Don't conflate Balkanized race groups for political leverage with any kind of actual caring on the part of Democrats. 

279

"Why do Republicans label all Hispanics as illegals"

 

Blatant lie. Time for the BanHammer.

280
Why do Republicans label all Hispanics as illegals and talk about the "invaders".

Except the tokens they elect of course.

281 A few years back I went to lunch with a group. Somehow or another one of the gals relayed how their church was holding bible studies on how the Mormons weren't christian. What? That's bible study? I suspect it was a Church of Christ doing that.
Blows my mind: Christians are called to bring everyone to Christ and yet they're spending time running down other sects.
Got a local builder (who doesn't build very sound houses) who is going to take his staff to Brazil for a "mission trip" building houses. Are you fucking kidding me? Did you miss the part in the bible how Jesus didn't have any use for the guy who prayed loudly on the street corner? There's a lot more good work that can be done in your own back yard--you're not going to Brazil for God.

282 This was the concensus yesterday on Romney, Krauthammer said it best:  "Krauthammer:  Romney 'not a strong frontrunner,' gets 'weaker not stronger every week'"

More and more people are starting to wonder about Iowa and Santorum.  If the Iowa win wasn't snatched from Santroum would Romney even be the "front runner" now?  And remember the Republican chair either resigned or was fired after this debacle.  And you guys wonder why people think money buy anything and who has the money in this race?

283 If his parents were from England or Ireland, Republicans would be questioning Rubio's eligibility.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:19 AM (YQqq9)

It's Democrats who are doing that because they are afraid of him on the ticket. 

Why do Republicans label all Hispanics as illegals and talk about the "invaders". That's racism and the reason Obama will win the Latin vote by a huge margin. The GOP has pushed away people who should be their natural allies over White resentment.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:20 AM (YQqq9)

All of them? No dumb fluke. Just the illegals. And illegals of any ethnic background. You've got a chip on your shoulder like Obama. Now go back to Think Progress

284 Italian/Irish 2012!

Lazy and Drunk...FOR AMERICA!

285 @287 : Empire of Jeff,
I have done very well for myself economically. I agree with the GOP's economic and fiscal policies. I disagree with their White resentment attitude.

Rubio even condemned the GOP for harsh rhetoric against Hispanics. Did he make this up?

286 Daily caller link for #294, sorry forgot to put it in:  http://tinyurl.com/8abcvll

287

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 08, 2012 10:23 AM (F+Xfj)

 

Oh he's a troll, there's no doubt.  I'm surprised he's got room to move with all the strawmen he's beem piling up.

288 Mexico=Death camp Not cool Achilles. More Brazilian racism I'd wager.

289 "SO why do Southern Whites call Hispanics wet backs, mud people and roaches? That's pure bigotry. I lived in a Southern State and encountered the racism first hand. Even though I can pass for WHite, the fact I had a Portuguese last name which is close to Hispanic sounding, I was treated like dirt."

Tell me about it.

290 Republicans want to throw Mexicans in particular into death camps.

No, just into Mexico....oh, I see what you mean.

291 Me too.

292 Republicans want to throw Mexicans in particular into death camps. Both are evil in my opinion.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:23 AM (YQqq9)

Dude, take off the tin foil hat and get some help

293

OMG, as phoenixgirl likes to say.

294 @295 TheQuietMan

Is that why Republicans are silent about the illegal Irish in Boston or illegal Russians in NY? If most Illegals were English, Irish or German, Republicans would be pushing amnesty. You are using the illegal immigration issue to mask your anti-Hispanic attitude. Illegal immigration is going down anyway. If that issue woasn't around, Republcians would still look for excusus to bash Hispanuics.

You guys aint fooling me.

295 @302 nickless

Deport all the Mexicans. That's you agenda.

296 Via Ben Domenech on Twitter: RT @thehill: Rubio: GOP candidates shouldn't be pushed to drop out of primary (by @DStraussTheHill) http://bit.ly/xgxSiY

297 >>You guys aint fooling me. Same here, bub.

298 Deport all the Mexicans. That's you agenda.

That'd put me in kind of a pickle...

299 @305 runninrebel,
I'm to right of you. I believe in government out of my pockets and out of my personal life.

300

Posted by: runninrebel at March 08, 2012 10:26 AM (N/1Dm)

 

In which case classifying him as trollus luapnorus may have been incorrect.  Then again, there does seem to be a certain amount of overlap. 

301
Is that why Republicans are silent about the illegal Irish in Boston or illegal Russians in NY? If most Illegals were English, Irish or German, Republicans would be pushing amnesty.

Fuck that, I want the illegal Chinese out of here, too.  The only differentiation I make is legal status.

302 Why do Republicans label all Hispanics as illegals and talk about the "invaders".

Why do you make stuff up?  Why do you label Republicans as anti-Hispanic when we welcome everyone, as long as they come here legally?  Why are you so anti-law? 

Why does nearly 65-70% of the population want secure borders and an adherence to enforcement of, you know, actual laws?  Why do you hate laws?

Why do you make proclamations with no substantiated evidence to back up your racism/bigotry theories? 

303 Italian/Irish 2012!

Lazy and Drunk...FOR AMERICA!

Posted by: nickless at March 08, 2012 10:24 AM (MMC8r)

Salute and Sláinte. I can get on that platform too. Organized crime with a whiskey chaser.

304 Trolls up early this morning. Must be an election year.

305 I love chips and salsa!

306 Posted by: Susana Martinez at March 08, 2012 10:29 AM (nd0uY)

You don't count.  Achilles thinks of you as only a token.

307

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2012 10:30 AM (1Jaio)

 

Hey!  how'd you get the tilde thingy over your "a" there?

308

How dare you address the White Man directly, boy!  Quit sullying my monitor with your untermenschen scribblings. Aren't there some leaves you should be blowing, Paco?

309 Deport all the Mexicans. That's you agenda.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:28 AM (YQqq9)

I think we should include Brazilians as well if that gets you out of here.

310 @300 Lars Groteballen,

So you do want to deport all Hispanics. Even though I am of Italian-Brazilian roots, Hispanics are my brothers. You racist attitude in calling for their mass deportation regardless of legal or illegal status is why I left the GOP.

On that note I am out.

Ace,
Great blog you got here and keep up the good work exposing the Left's Marxist agenda!

One day the GOP will return to its anti-racialist roots and I will happily rejoin them! 2012 is the Nativists and White Supremacists last stand in the GOP. Their time is up!

311 Achilles, perhaps what treatment you attribute to race is actually better linked to the fact you're an asshole.

312 Not all "Brazilians" IYKWIMAITHTYD hehhehhehheh

313 Why are we talking about waxing?

314 @322 TheQuietMan

I am armed and can will take out 10 of you inbred Anglo Supremacists before you take me down.

Thanks for being honest about your racialist mindset.

Now I am out!

315 Hey! how'd you get the tilde thingy over your "a" there?

Posted by: Polliwog at March 08, 2012 10:32 AM (zmm1+)

I cheated and copied it from a website. We Mic Dagos are devious that way. 

316 321 Empire of Jeff

I am white myself, but because you subscribe to the Hitelerian purity of blood crap you would not view me as one.. But I am not an inbred deformed person like you. I have a gun and can defend myself against you Nazis any day!

Now I am out!

317 Achilles you giblet headed dope. You equated Mexico with a death camp. Not very Hispanic-brotherly of you. But look what I'm doing. I'm trying to explain something that has the nuance of a fart in bathtub to a Brazilian who clearly suffers from LIQS. Don't leave mad. I don't get to see blatant Brazilian intolerance that often.

318 Death threats are you achilles heel, asshole. BRB, off to email the moderators.

319 Did we ever class Italians as white?  Did I miss a Klan meeting where that was on the agenda?

320

How can we miss you if you won't go away, El Presidente de Chimichanga? Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I just cleaned it and we all know how oily you people are.

321 Whoa. You freaked out a little there Achilles. I'd put the Daisy back in the safe for a couple days. You'll put your eye out.

322 LIQS? The Long Island Quilters Society?

323

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:38 AM (p+4lN)

 Now I am out!

 

I'm begining to think that phrase doesn't mean what you think it means. 

324 Tell you what, if my Guatemalan maid doesn't stop starching the sheets, she's goin' to the camp, lemmetellya.

325 I am armed and can will take out 10 of you inbred Anglo Supremacists before you take me down.

Thanks for being honest about your racialist mindset.

Now I am out!

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:35 AM (p+4lN)

Lighten up Francis. And I'm an Irish/Italian/papist. Not very Anglo-Saxon. Not that I have anything against that

326 This is the best fake troll Average Hoe has done in awhile.

327

Posted by: nickless at March 08, 2012 10:34 AM (MMC8r)

 

What! No, that couldn't be.  People like being lied to and jerked around.  Really, fastest way to make friends.  Guaranteed.

328

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 08, 2012 10:41 AM (EgUGc)

 

Was it Joe?  No one would tell me how to check hashes.

329 Learned Indignation Quantitative Shitflap

330 Did we ever class Italians as white? Did I miss a Klan meeting where that was on the agenda?

Posted by: nickless at March 08, 2012 10:38 AM (MMC8r)

We tabled that for another meeting but voted unanimously against those flukeing Brazilians. Although we didn't decide whether to just deport them or put them in the camps with the Mexicans.

331 I can't find the NRO piece on superPACS. I do know that NRO hates--hates--New, so I'd take anything they say about him with a large grain of salt.

332

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 08, 2012 10:37 AM (1Jaio)

 

Well phooh, then.  I guess I'll just have to soldier on without cool puctuation.

333 @335 Empire of Jeff

How can we miss you if you won't go away, El Presidente de Chimichanga? Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I just cleaned it and we all know how oily you people are.

We bath, you don't. At least I am not mssing teeth and my mom and dad are not related. Thanks for confirming the GOP's white resentment/racialist attitude. You Nazi cousin were crushed in 1945. You will be crushed in America as well. Once your ilk is driven from the GOP, sane non racialists Conservatives will cheer!

@331 Lars Groteballen

You get mad at me but say nothing about Empire of Jeff's racism. You proved my point.

@340 TheQuietMan ,
My apologies! I am part of the Papist cabal myself!

To the Good Conservatives, keep up the fight.

To the Nativists, stop inbreeding. That's why you guys have sub par intelligence. Try marring outside of your family!

Peace!

334 I was treated like dirt.

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:13 AM (YQqq9)

------------------------

You were treated like dirt because you are an asshole.

335 "Breitbart.com Reveals Its Big Obama Scoop And Everyone Thinks Its Ridiculous"  http://tinyurl.com/86b9eld

This is the general consensus.  Bet Hannity had record ratings but he's a laughing stock, people got disgusted.  Thought they really had something important and they didn't.

336 I'm trying to understand the logic behind pushing for Newt and/or Santorum to drop out. Romney's risk of not getting the nomination is very small at this point. He no longer needs to attack Newt or Santorum and Newt in particular has basically abandoned attacks and is focusing on positive messaging and criticizing Obama. That's good for the base to hear. The anti-Romney sentiment stems in large part from the sense that folks have that Romney was shoved down their throats. So why not use this remaining time in the primary to campaign in a positive way and try to get conservatives to like him? I don't buy that it's a money issue at this point. He no longer needs to outspend the others five to one. He just needs to make appearances, say the right things, and project a little bit of "I *do* give a shit about what conservatives want" for a few weeks. And he really needs the practice at addressing media questions/attacks, so it would be best to do that now.

337 To the Nativists, stop inbreeding. That's why you guys have sub par intelligence. Try marring outside of your family!

Peace!

Posted by: Achilles at March 08, 2012 10:47 AM (p+4lN)

I thought you left. And now who's being the little racist? But we promise to stop "marring" inside of our family to prevent our sub par intelligence and be a genius like you

338 Only libs/lefties say "peace" when they sign out. Not that the troll has not already blown it's cover.

339 For those of you playing the home game, this is Achilles' fourth "Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home" in fifteen minutes.

340 Notice a lot of odd posts on the latest threads.  Is someone deliberately trying to label this site, characterize it in a bad light?  And, for what purpose?

341 Is the cat mad at the ball of yarn?

342 Indeed. The "corporate/ bureaucratic complex" is a much greater danger to the than the "military/industrial complex"could ever hope to be.
--

From his original draft, Eisenhower included Congress in his warning against the congressional/military/industrial complex -- according to a historian's lecture. No, I haven't seen the draft. But the point resounds as the warning was against the alignment already at play, corporatism being fascistic, the virulent globalism of the UN already having dictated the Korean war without proper military strategy, with monstrous American casualties no thanks to Truman setting UN precedence for US Policy (presuming the US would always monopolice the world, dictating UN Policy).

"At least" Eisenhower limited post-WWII American militancy abroad via the CIA black ops (Operation AJAX Iran; IndoChina "advisers" Vietnam). I've criticized Eisenhower's departing warning as too little, too late, affecting a washing of his hands as Pilot did of Jesus when faced with political opposition. But he DID speak out and remains on record protesting the aggression from American socialist corporatism.

Hell, the lengths that direction has already reached; Panetta not saying anything new, but people beginning to take notice. There is no distinction today between CIA black ops and US Military interventionism (NATO): "Arab Spring" cases in point. And the bureaucracy merging the CIA/USMilitary/DHS is Napoleonic, a valid criticism made by Webster Tarpley (yes, an avowed FDR socialist opposes Obama, corporatism and neoconservatism more effectively than Republican conservatives, no surprise). Given Obama/Holder's application of the GWB/Patriot Act (every neoconservative yet supporting more authoritarianism), according to this POTUS and his Attorney General, American citizens are now guilty until proven innocent, subject to summary execution. 

Increasingly, we Americans are subject to violent hazing by our "betters" aka the "meritocracy" that includes Romney.

343 You got a little piece of salad in your teeth.

344 Over at Breitbart.com, Thomas Sowell on the Bell (from an interview at the time that the tape was made): LAMB: Now, what do you think of the press treatment of him? SOWELL: It's been quite gentle. LAMB: You mean, is he a hero? SOWELL: To me? LAMB: No. Basically, I mean, from the press coverage, you've seen, is he a hero to the ...? SOWELL: Well, he's looked at as an idealist who is self-sacrificing and so on. I suppose one could, if one wanted to look at it that way, have seen Hitler that way in his early days. It's just a question of where that kind of idealism leads. He has launched a despicable attack on a young black professor at the law school who doesn't go along with this. A young man named Randall Kennedy, who has written a very thoughtful, intelligent article last June in the Harvard Law Review, questioning some of the assumptions that people are making, people like Derrick Bell and doing it in a very gentlemanly as well as very logical way, empirical way, and that's not what they want. They want the conclusion to be that -- they want him to march in lock step and he won't do it, and they're doing their best to make life impossible for him.

345

Posted by: Y-not at March 08, 2012 10:51 AM (5H6zj)

 

That's my take as well

346

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 08, 2012 10:58 AM (lpWVn)

 

I'd heard that about Eisenhower.  A couple of years ago I think, fairly recently anyway.  It's a shame he cut that bit 'cause the left has seriously used the rest to completely subvert what he was trying to say. 

347 @362 Do you believe the spin that Newt is staying in out of spite? I really don't think he's taking this very personally. Frankly, if I had to guess, I'd say he would endorse Romney if/when he drops out.

348 Fox during the Super Tuesday coverage was being turned off in record numbers.  Callers to talk radio were saying stuff like "I watched CNN for the first time in years".  Mostly they complained about the unfettered adulation and worship of Romney but apparently Karl Rove came on and was gloating and people assumed he was working for Romney and couldn't take his gloating anymore.   A lot of callers yesterday said stuff like "you can't buy an election".  Have never heard that on talk radio before.

349

Posted by: Y-not, old timer at March 08, 2012 11:02 AM (5H6zj)

 

Thanks for posting that.  I'd seen a "Sowell Compares Bell to Hitler" headline but not the details. 

350 I think the main issue is that Romney represents the post-1964 GOP CW ----- Rockefeller Republican, right? I still have an Abort Rocky button in my keepsake box somewhere. I agree with you about the "Establishment" thing.

351

Posted by: Y-not, old timer at March 08, 2012 11:06 AM (5H6zj)

 

It doesn't seem likely from what I've observed of him.  Would he stay in for the money?  I don't know, maybe.  My concern is that demanding the others leave makes his campaign look weak.  It also seems to indicate an unwillingness to consider the policy concerns of other factions of the party.  

352 OK, this is silly, but I'm posting it because yesterday when people were talking about Mitt's walk/posture, I was thinking to myself that of the three of them, I bet Newt's the best dancer. Via Twitter (Newt campaign feed): After a long day of campaigning, Newt and Callista went dancing last night at their hotel in Jackson, MS http://bitly.com/ziKTtm

353 It doesn't seem likely from what I've observed of him. Would he stay in for the money? I don't know, maybe. My concern is that demanding the others leave makes his campaign look weak. It also seems to indicate an unwillingness toconsider the policy concerns of other factions of the party. ----- Who's demanding it now? I think I've seen each of the candidates (or their surrogates) tell the others to drop out. The most recent ones I've seen are from Santorum and Romney. I really dislike Romney and wish a miracle would happen and Newt would prevail, but that's unlikely. Given that, I want Mitt to be a strong candidate (well, as strong as possible). I sincerely believe that the way he becomes a stronger candidate is not to have this thing "wrapped up" by the others dropping out, but instead for him to switch to 1000% positive campaigning salted in with some attacks on Obama. He also really needs to stop with the "hair on fire" stuff. It's clear he views the base with contempt if he characterizes what Gingrich and Santorum are doing as "hair on fire" sideshows instead of valid criticisms of Obama. Mitt needs to start making himself likable and STFU with the digs at conservatives.

354

4 FBI director says he will have to review Holder's criteria to determine if the administration could target American citizens for execution without a trial in the U.S. Remember the flap over this in that new law which they said did not allow that?

 

Does Rush's life insurance carrier know this?

355

Posted by: Y-not, old timer at March 08, 2012 11:20 AM (5H6zj)

 

Agreed pretty close to 100%.  McCain's open contempt for the base caused teh GOP a lot of trouble last time.  I suppose it was to much to hope that they'd get a clue.

356 This is what I'm talking about (quoted from the Hill). Romney is supposed to be our safe candidate who is focused like a laser on the economy... and he makes an unforced error like this. Gawd this is frustrating. Mitt Romney on Wednesday dismissed the notion that his tax plan would benefit the wealthy, saying any analysis of his proposal is inaccurate because he hasn’t “laid out all the details.” “What I put out in my plan was a series of principles that allow our economy to grow and at the same time maintain a neutral budget impact,” Romney said on CNBC. “So I haven’t laid out all of the details about how we’re going to deal with each deduction, so I think it’s kind of interesting for the groups to try and score it, because frankly it can’t be scored, because those kinds of details will have to be worked out with Congress, and we have a wide array of options.” http://tinyurl.com/72hzsvb

357 And what is the plan to stem the tide of Brazilian Mormons slipping across the Mexican border?

358

President Obama:

“And what I do is I practice it.  And so IÂ’m going to try to lead by example in this situation, as opposed to commenting on every single comment thatÂ’s made by either politicians or pundits.  I would be very busy.  I would not have time to do my job.  ThatÂ’s your job, to comment on whatÂ’s said by politicians and pundits." - speaking to the press gathered for the conference on Tuesday.

 

It struck me funny. Isn't there a difference in types of reporters? Editorial journalists would "comment" and inject their opinions into politics, right? I thought the rest were supposed to just gather information and share that information.

 

Am I missing something? Now every journalist can can claim to be an op-ed jornalist and inject whatever they want into stories about the president or any political figure they want to with no repurcussions? I know there is a slant left, but will that come to be understood as the status quo for everything from consumer reporters to traffic reporters now? It wouldn't surprise me. The bits and pieces of crap that come flying out of his teeth seem to grow into giant turds.  They'd be reprimanded for that kind of stuff a few years ago, if not lose their jobs.

Makes it easier to circumvent any code of ethics that profession is supposed to adhere to, especially with His Majesty getting away with saying "that's your job" to journalists in general.

That comment pissed me off and made me wonder all at the same time.

359 How come this isn't on the sidebar yet, AoSHQ Lifestyle award contenders: http://cbsloc.al/wktftj

360 1. when it comes to our government telling us that being forced to buy health insurance for being alive is no different than them telling us we have to buy car insurance

2. opponents of the idea point out that you don't have to buy car insurance if you don't own a car

3. government and progressives say "shut up - like no one owns a car" and then they trot out this argument again later on down the way

4. energy secretary says he does not own a car . . . I wonder if he has car insurance?  if he does, but no car, then that would be this administration leading by example, but I bet he has no car insurance

361 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.