June 07, 2012

Top Headline Comments 6-7-12
— Gabriel Malor

Happy Thursday.

Last night, the Canadian House of Commons voted to repeal the much-abused hate-speech section of the Canadian Human Rights Act. That free speech win was a long time coming in America's hat.

According to a new book about Obama's foreign policy, former SecDef Gates, pissed at the White House for the operational leaks about the UBL raid (in particular John Brennan's inaccurate bragging), offered a "new strategic communications approach." "Shut the f@*k up," the defense secretary said.

President Obama and Gov. Romney are both taping comedic segments for the opening of tonight's Country Music Awards.

Obama also made an off-color joke about his wife at a fundraiser last night, which has some folks on twitter aghast. I absolutely agree that racy jokes about women are absolutely unacceptable and absolutely inappropriate---absolutely at informal fundraisers like this one---and I'm absolutely shocked that this president (or any president) would use a pregnant pause to suggest that he has sex-thoughts about his wife. Absolutely.

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1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Thursday, June 7, 2012.  On this day in 1776 Richard Henry Lee of VA proposed a declaration of independence to the continental congress.  He was later opposed to the Constitution because he felt the proposed federal government would usurp the States. He was right. Now on to the fallacy of "meaningful news".

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 02:59 AM (YdQQY)

2 A Massachusetts teenager who became the first person in the state convicted of causing a traffic death while texting has been sentenced to a year in jail.
Aaron Deveau of Haverhill was sentenced Wednesday to 2 1/2 years behind bars with a year to serve and the remainder suspended and lost his license for 15 years.


http://is.gd/7H2MdX

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

3 Iowa NAACP head resigns in flap over the organization adopting the same sex marriage position of the Democrat Party.


http://is.gd/HlDQiP

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

4 House sells us out with half of the Republicans joining the Dems in calling for increased spending on energy.  Some of these assholes just have not got the message yet.  And forget about the Senate entirely.


http://is.gd/k7jFdL

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

5 Uno?

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 03:00 AM (i3+c5)

6 After a long and costly investigation by outside legal counsel, the House says the ethics case against L.A. scrunt Maxine Waters will go forward.


http://is.gd/n4G2qc

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)

7 More fallout from the union/Democrat defeat in WI.  Rachell Maddow cries bitter tears about the Dem prospects without unions.


http://is.gd/W4dRXm

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)

8 And speaking of bitter crocodile tears, get a load of this video from WI liberals mad at CNN. The stupid, it burns.


http://is.gd/VK10Cr

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)

9 Vic, I surrender to your well-honed speed skills!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 03:01 AM (i3+c5)

10 FBI investigating the WH for leaks of classified information to make Obama look better?  IsnÂ’t the FBI part of the DOJ? 

Hahahahaha, weasels investigating the raid of the hen house.


http://is.gd/8tnkKQ

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)

11 Al Tawana Brawley Sharpton claims Republicans stole the WI elections. Why does anyone give this lying criminal asshole any credence what-so-ever.


http://is.gd/sP7qYH

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:02 AM (YdQQY)

12 Anarchists (commies) unhappy with WI vote take to the streets. Waaaaah they cried some more bitter crocodile tears.


http://is.gd/kachfS

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:03 AM (YdQQY)

13 This is the kind of shit that is killing businesses and energy companies.  The Demo-commies have made it so incredibly easy for the watermelons to sue.


http://is.gd/SLvLLV

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:03 AM (YdQQY)

14 This says it all about unions in SC.  They are not worried about the WI vote. They say this:


After all, they said, whatÂ’s left to lose?


That says it all about the state of unions in SC. There are very few and they are all from out of State companies.

 
http://is.gd/xjxWaC

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:04 AM (YdQQY)

15 Stupid and useless EPA regulations have made the U.S. military dependent on China for weapons materials.  Yes, the Obamanites are trying to destroy the U.S. on multiple fronts.


http://is.gd/8hb1z6

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:04 AM (YdQQY)

16 NRO hits Holder on his illegal order to FL.


http://is.gd/to7WYM

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:04 AM (YdQQY)

17 ABC News supposedly is covering the Aaron Walker thing.  Too bad there website is unavailable for confirmation.


Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 03:04 AM (O3R/2)

18 Jim Geraghty looks at evidence that the Obamanites know that the Supremes are going to shoot down the individual mandate and that the law is going down the tubes.


http://is.gd/2omM9G

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:05 AM (YdQQY)

19 LOL, the origin of the “piggy bank”.


http://is.gd/9m8vNG

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:05 AM (YdQQY)

20 And thatÂ’s it for news today folks.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:05 AM (YdQQY)

21 Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 07:00 AM (YdQQY)

Right you are that the House pets don't get it at all.  The real trick would be for the feds to spend LESS on energy by getting out of the way so the produces of energy could do their jobs and all us citizens could benefit from lower energy costs.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 03:05 AM (i3+c5)

22

DeGeneres, Obama said, is "a great friend who accepts a little bit of teasing about Michelle beating her in push-ups. I think she claims Michelle didn't go all the way down."

Actually I don't think he meant to make an off colored joke, I think the perverts surrounding him took his joke about pushups into Obama making a joke about his wife being involved in a lesbian sex act... I'm pretty sure from his reaction that it was unintended.

Posted by: miikeb at June 07, 2012 03:08 AM (Jauav)

23 The real trick would be for the feds to spend LESS on energy by getting out of the way so the produces of energy could do their jobs and all us citizens could benefit from lower energy costs.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 07:05 AM (i3+c5)


Yeah, like give the EPA a budget equal to the amount needed to lay off all its employees and terminate operations.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:08 AM (YdQQY)

24 Whew! How did you folks' first day after the death of democracy go? Mine went... gloriously! Thanks, red-hatted and weeping Wisconsin weenie: your lachrymose lament will provide me with hours of viewing enjoyment for months to come!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 07, 2012 03:09 AM (ZSnCv)

25 Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY)


Sharpton knows that the Repubs couldn't have stolen the election because their ethics would get in the way, they are too dis-organized to do it well, and, more importantly, even when the Dems professionally steal an election, they never achieve a 7% lead.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 03:09 AM (i3+c5)

26 Last night, the Canadian House of Commons voted to repeal the much-abused hate-speech section of the Canadian Human Rights Act. That free speech win was a long time coming in America's hat.




We should not gloat too much about this.  We did not repeal ours, the Supreme Court struck it down.  Too bad they did not do the same thing to the equally unconstitutional "hate crimes" law.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:12 AM (YdQQY)

27 House sells us out with half of the Republicans joining the Dems in calling for increased spending on energy. Some of these assholes just have not got the message yet.


They're still operating on the Rove "compassionate conservatism" playbook where Repukes spend just as fucking much as commiecrats only to different people.  It's all part of the fat cocksucker's strategy that produced the Permanent Republican Majority that worked out so well in 2006 and 2008.  All those fucks need to be purged.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 03:12 AM (E4eMV)

28 Did I read that right?  Barky is bitching that Michelle doesn't go all the way down?

Classy.

Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2012 03:13 AM (ZN5qR)

29 More irony:


"We are reaching the limits of our patience here," Panetta said during a joint press conference the Afghan defense minister.

http://is.gd/V2E2z8

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:14 AM (YdQQY)

30 Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 07:14 AM (YdQQY)


I am sure this will result in a really harsh and bitter DoD memo to the Afghans!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 03:15 AM (i3+c5)

31 Vic, I just want to acknowledge your role in jump-starting this here award-winning blog almost every morning. You're missed on the mornings your're not here.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at June 07, 2012 03:17 AM (vXucy)

32 Obama's trying to convince people his hetero? Good luck with that.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 03:18 AM (WCAIB)

33 Thank you.  I just hope BB is up there still reading the comments.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:19 AM (YdQQY)

34 @8
The first commenter calls this woman "Pippi Long Stalin".  Man, I wish I'd thought of that.

Posted by: Dinosaurs at June 07, 2012 03:20 AM (YXmuI)

35 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2012 03:20 AM (Xb3hu)

36 Wait, it was an oral sexinnuendo? So much for the hetero reference and that's really classless. Gross. I can see why twitter was "abuzz". There are still some innuendos you don't innuendo about your wife for God's sake. Ghetto.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 03:21 AM (WCAIB)

37 The CMT Awards were on last night.

Posted by: Ozzie at June 07, 2012 03:21 AM (/d44M)

38 The idiots don't know we live in a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Democracy usually descends to mob rule, and they don't realize they're not the bigger mob.

Posted by: bigred at June 07, 2012 03:22 AM (mIcI8)

39 Arghhhh. Dinosaurs = pep

Posted by: pep at June 07, 2012 03:22 AM (YXmuI)

40 Ellen>Moochele

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2012 03:23 AM (Xb3hu)

41 4 House sells us out with half of the Republicans joining the Dems in calling for increased spending on energy. Some of these assholes just have not got the message yet. And forget about the Senate entirely.


http://is.gd/k7jFdL


eh - can't get too outrageously outraged over this, it is a baby step forward to cutting spending *overall*.  yes I know, baby steps won't cut it in terms of the mathematics of our situation, but baby steps is about the only thing that can work in a practical sense in this current climate.

It would be nice to see precisely which amendments failed because the new vs. old Republican members disagreed.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 07, 2012 03:23 AM (Wb1zd)

42 I can't believe "Red Solo Cup" didn't win anything.

Posted by: Ozzie at June 07, 2012 03:24 AM (/d44M)

43 I'm so old I can remember a few random moments when Degeneres was funny.  Not many though; her standup act was usually pretty fucking lame.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 03:25 AM (E4eMV)

44 Ellen>Moochele Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2012 07:23 AM

Hold on there, buckaroo!

Is this some kind of Nasty Graphic Sex Joke?

Posted by: MrScribbler at June 07, 2012 03:25 AM (MQc8e)

45 One of the commentators on that video asked for this video for that fugly woman.

http://is.gd/YvkPwg

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:25 AM (YdQQY)

46 The MRC has done an excellent piece on Nazi Collaborator and convicted criminal George Soros. http://scoamf.us/vg Extensive write up of his funding of universities, creepy open society institute and much more

Posted by: Toaster at June 07, 2012 03:25 AM (YCJ3T)

47 eh - can't get too outrageously outraged over this, it is a baby step forward to cutting spending *overall*.


That is the point, they didn't cut spending at all overall or in the energy budget.  They increased spending.  And that was the amendment that half the Republicans joined the Dems on, an amendment to cut some more so there would be a real reduction in spending.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:27 AM (YdQQY)

48 The "democracy died" crowd should read the Federalist Papers, esp #10. It discusses majority and minority sects (mobs) and why the constitution's safe guards protect against sudden and unbalanced mob rule.


They/you may have lurched upon the real problem with WI and the occupy movement. They were never educated in government and are confused by the lack of mob rule. They think democracy means that the 99% (which is a ridiculous fake number) should just tear through the country like a conquering hoard because it's bigger.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 03:27 AM (WCAIB)

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 03:28 AM (WCAIB)

50 oops

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:28 AM (YdQQY)

51 Actually I don't think he meant to make an off colored joke, I think the perverts surrounding him took his joke ... about his wife being involved in a lesbian sex act...


When you surround yourself with perverts, your every word, deed and expression will be filtered through their perverted minds and twisted to their bent.

Posted by: Beto at June 07, 2012 03:30 AM (cYQg0)

52 22 DeGeneres, Obama said, is "a great friend who accepts a little bit of teasing about Michelle beating her in push-ups. I think she claims Michelle didn't go all the way down."
Actually I don't think he meant to make an off colored joke, I think the perverts surrounding him took his joke about pushups into Obama making a joke about his wife being involved in a lesbian sex act... I'm pretty sure from his reaction that it was unintended."

* * *

First, Obama isn't smart enough to write that gag himself, or deliver it without practice. He screws up too often reading a damn teleprompter for Pete's sake. The gag was tailor made for him to deliver to that crowd.

Second, he's not trying to present himself as Mr. Super Straight Guy...he actually dropped a hint that his wife went down on DeGeneres. *shudder* He knew exactly what he was saying and how it'd be read. There's just no way the fool wrote it himself of "slipped up" saying it.

Third, I'm puzzled why Gabe is acting like he got the vapors over it when it seems he loved it.

I think it was a hint at what's long been surmised about them as well as the Clintons, except in this case, both Obama and Michelle are queer. Obama for sure.

Posted by: He ain't that smart at June 07, 2012 03:30 AM (B60j2)

53 Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 07:27 AM (WCAIB)

That model worked well for us!

Posted by: The Vikings at June 07, 2012 03:31 AM (i3+c5)

54 Sharpton knows that the Repubs couldn't have stolen the election because their ethics would get in the way, they are too dis-organized to do it well, and, more importantly, even when the Dems professionally steal an election, they never achieve a 7% lead.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 07:09 AM (i3+c5)

Last night, O'Reilly asked a Dem WHY Scott Walker raised 7 times as much money as his opponent.
He actually pressed the point after all the talking points were brought up, and answered the question.  It's because people are sick of the progressive results and simply won't contribute.

The Dem had no comeback for that.  Occasionally, O'Reilly does get one right.

Posted by: jwb7605 at June 07, 2012 03:31 AM (Qxe/p)

55 The SCOAMT was a classless jerk about a family member?  Oh my stars and garters, someone fetch my fainting couch.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 07, 2012 03:32 AM (Gk3SS)

56 51 You mean like here at the HQ?

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2012 03:32 AM (Xb3hu)

57 What an ass, as usual. Admitting that your wife can do more pushups than you is not self-deprecating, it's self-immolating. Even if true, no real man would admit such a thing. Added to the inappropriate comment about his wife, I surmise that he doesn't like Mooch at all. He likes boys, that much is clear.

It's his muslim upbringing; hating women is par for the course with that bunch.

Posted by: SilverGTP at June 07, 2012 03:33 AM (MnSRY)

58 The joke seemed to be about lesbian, not marital, sex. And, it did not at all seem to be an innocent gaffe.

Posted by: texette at June 07, 2012 03:34 AM (zt3lR)

59 Last night, O'Reilly asked a Dem WHY Scott Walker raised 7 times as much money as his opponent.



Actually he didn't if you do not ignore the money the unions put in for the Dems.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:34 AM (YdQQY)

60 Posted by: jwb7605 at June 07, 2012 07:31 AM (Qxe/p)

Interesting too that Walker "raised" money, but his opponents relied heavily on the use of the people's money extracted from union members and supplied by union bosses.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 03:34 AM (i3+c5)

61 Man I'm STILL high from Tuesday's victory!

Posted by: DangerGirl at June 07, 2012 03:35 AM (z+Xap)

62 BTW, Star Trek Next Generation fans, Amazon is having a one day sale today to push all four of those movies for $26.49

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 03:35 AM (YdQQY)

63 Oh, well as long as it wasn't a joke about him having straight sex. Nothin1g believable there. I don't know why Gabe thinks that's having "sex thought" about his wife. It's more like accusing her of being a carpet muncher and a bad one at that.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 03:35 AM (WCAIB)

64 Obama's trying to convince people his hetero? Good luck with that.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 07:18 AM (WCAIB)



That's why Stanley Ann deserted him:  Too much competition for third world pipe.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 03:36 AM (E4eMV)

65 Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 07:27 AM ----- I don't think the "democracy died" idiots can read very much period. Let alone Federalist #10 written in late 18th century English. They make ridiculous statements about democracy dying or the US Constitution being raaaaacist but they will NEVER use deductive reasoning or actually read the material they complain about. Their brains have logic-tight doors. They just mindlessly repeat the crap they hear from various prog pseudo-intellectuals.

Posted by: Toaster at June 07, 2012 03:37 AM (YCJ3T)

66 "Third, I'm puzzled why Gabe is acting like he got the vapors over it when it seems he loved it."

Smirking at the puritans? Or celebrating the testoterone-ladden love our Barry holds towards his sexy bride(oh, those sex thoughts!)?

I don't get it either.

Posted by: Lizabth at June 07, 2012 03:38 AM (JZBti)

67 Actually he didn't if you do not ignore the money the unions put in for the Dems.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 07:34 AM (YdQQY)

That's the big Dem talking point, which I only get from articles and talking head shows.  "They" claim Walker raised 7 times the cash.

If so, O'Reilly hit on a simple truth.
If not, the theory that money really doesn't matter might apply.

I'm going with the first theory.  People are sick of progressive policy.

Posted by: jwb7605 at June 07, 2012 03:38 AM (Qxe/p)

68 Yeah, because in the 3rd world, muslim version, 13 year old Barky would have been much more desirable than Stanley "I sleep around to look radical" Ann.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 03:39 AM (WCAIB)

69 A quote from the article about the First Gay President attending the Gay event in L.A.:



"He didn't mention gay marriage. He didn't have to."



What does that mean?

Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 03:39 AM (P6QsQ)

70 Oh, and good morning from the center of the conservative universe, beautiful Wisconsin.

Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 03:40 AM (P6QsQ)

71 ...Walker "raised" money, but his opponents relied heavily on the use of the people's money extracted from union members and supplied by union bosses.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 07:34 AM (i3+c5)


We estimated the manpower was worth, at minimum, $4,500,000

Posted by: Beto at June 07, 2012 03:41 AM (cYQg0)

72 Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 07:34 AM (YdQQY)

BB has a piece on the 21M$ from unions (that doesn't count because it's the "people's" money contributed righteously)!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 07, 2012 03:41 AM (i3+c5)

73 69

Because they think they really know where he stands on the issue. They don't. No one does, not for sure.

Posted by: He ain't that smart at June 07, 2012 03:41 AM (B60j2)

74 yes I know, baby steps won't cut it in terms of the mathematics of our situation, but baby steps is about the only thing that can work in a practical sense in this current climate. Good point. The measly one half of one third had best not even think about doing anything that might upset the mushy middle. That's a sure recipe to lose every election until the end of time. I am so glad that there are reasonable people like you "on the right" to blunt meanie conservative positions before they destroy electoral chances. Just think what could have been if that Scott Walker idiot took your fine counsel before he kamikaze'd after the unions in Wisconsin of all places! WTF is your agenda, you leftard troll?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 07, 2012 03:43 AM (p7SSh)

75 I don't think Gabe has the vapors over the Mooch comment. I think he's taking a passive-agressive shot at those who did or were offended. Granted, he has done it in a very poor and confusing way... On a scale of 1-10 I give it a 1.3 for execution and an 11 for passive aggressive bitchiness.

Posted by: DangerGirl at June 07, 2012 03:44 AM (z+Xap)

76 I think Chemjeff means that it wouldn't pass not that he doesn't want it. You can't radically cut spending when you have not enough votes.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 03:46 AM (WCAIB)

77 I think he's taking a passive-agressive shot at those who did or were offended. Granted, he has done it in a very poor and confusing way... On a scale of 1-10 I give it a 1.3 for execution and an 11 for passive aggressive bitchiness. Posted by: DangerGirl at June 07, 2012 07:44 AM (z+Xap) Yep.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 03:46 AM (6KkLK)

78 WTF is your agenda, you leftard troll? Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 07, 2012 07:43 AM (p7SSh) You new here?

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 03:48 AM (6KkLK)

79 Standby for FAIL if Country Music Awards is getting into the political, actually the PC political business. I'm guessing that clingers that watch the CMA don't really want to hear whatever the SCOAMF has to say. First rule of business, know your customer.

Posted by: dogfish at June 07, 2012 03:49 AM (N2yhW)

80 That was supposed to be an offensive joke? The only thing offensive sex jokes about Michelle is... Michelle.

Posted by: Anna Wintour at June 07, 2012 03:49 AM (niZvt)

81 off, sock

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 07, 2012 03:49 AM (niZvt)

82 You can't radically cut spending when you have not enough votes. Votes don't cast themselves. They are cast by elected representative. How many of those 110 GOP votes against the cut amendment were made using the "current climate" fig-leaf?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 07, 2012 03:50 AM (p7SSh)

83 Obama also made an off-color joke about his wife at a fundraiser last night, which has some folks on twitter aghast. I absolutely agree that racy jokes about women are absolutely unacceptable and absolutely inappropriate---absolutely at informal fundraisers like this one---and I'm absolutely shocked that this president (or any president) would use a pregnant pause to suggest that he has sex-thoughts about his wife. Absolutely. We understand, Cpt Gabe Renault.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 07, 2012 03:52 AM (niZvt)

84 Yeah.  Obama will be a big hit at the Country Music Awards.


Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 03:53 AM (P6QsQ)

85 79 Not to mention all the people sick of SCoaMF constantly popping up on tv.

Posted by: steevy at June 07, 2012 03:53 AM (Xb3hu)

86 I think Chemjeff means that it wouldn't pass not that he doesn't want it. You can't radically cut spending when you have not enough votes.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 07:46 AM (WCAIB)



I'm still getting mixed signals from the crew of Repuke turds in the House.  Back in 2010 we were all told the usual blah blah about how by controlling the House you control the purse-strings to de gubiment and that some hard choices were gonna be made.  Only not a fucking thing was done, or as little as possible, because THEN we were told that the commiecrats were spoiling for a shutdown which would be a nightmare for the Repubs because the MFM would yammer on about how fucking heartless they were to deny abortions to kindergarten kids on the taxpayer's dime.  All that does is just defer the day of reckoning on making the hard choices and makes it that much more expensive to do so.  Maybe it's the correct political strategy but it's pretty fucking unprincipled imo and treats people like they're a bunch of ignoramuses.  And I'm still not sure they'll ever really cut spending.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 03:53 AM (E4eMV)

87 Maybe it's the correct political strategy but it's pretty fucking unprincipled


------

I think Scott Walker puts an end to the idea that standing on conservative principles is bad political strategy.

Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 03:56 AM (P6QsQ)

88 And I'm still not sure they'll ever really cut spending. Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 07:53 AM (E4eMV) Not until it is too late.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 03:57 AM (6KkLK)

89 Snitty liberals assaulting a bus driver over CNN editorial policy?

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 03:57 AM (MMC8r)

90 "He didn't mention gay marriage. He didn't have to."What does that mean?Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 07:39 AM


It means he'll have more "flexibility" after the election.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 03:58 AM (sbV1u)

91 When you surround yourself with perverts, your every word, deed and expression will be filtered through their perverted minds and twisted to their bent.>>

Speaking of bent you can ask Monica what she thinks of that.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 07, 2012 03:58 AM (tf9Ne)

92

That's why Stanley Ann deserted him: Too much competition for third world pipe.<>>

 

My cinnamons exactly.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 07, 2012 04:01 AM (JDIKC)

93 70 Oh, and good morning from the center of the conservative universe, beautiful Wisconsin.

Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 07:40 AM (P6QsQ)

 

*****

 

Helloooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: Colorado at June 07, 2012 04:02 AM (vXucy)

94 "Yeah. Obama will be a big hit at the Country Music Awards."

He got a polite golf-clap.  Nobody actually booed.  Them rednecks have too much class for that.

Posted by: Ozzie at June 07, 2012 04:02 AM (/d44M)

95 SCOAMQF.

Seconded?

Posted by: He ain't that smart at June 07, 2012 04:02 AM (B60j2)

96 Beverly Hills home of "Glee" creator Ryan Murphy. Darren Criss, a heartthrob on "Glee," Max Mutchnik, creator of "Will and Grace," Dustin Lance Black, Oscar-winning screenwriter of "Milk," was in the audience, as were Cher and her son, Chaz Bono. Blech.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:06 AM (MMC8r)

97 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:06 AM (8y9MW)

98 Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 08:06 AM (MMC8r)


I'm sure it was FAB-u-LOUS!

Everything looks better in mauve and puce.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:07 AM (sbV1u)

99 And here lies one of our biggest problems: "Though he heads a news division, Moonves said, 'ultimately journalism has changed Â… partisanship is very much a part of journalism now.' "

Posted by: DaProf at June 07, 2012 04:08 AM (DMRPz)

100 Take my wife.  Please.

Posted by: Shecky Obama at a lesbian fundraiser at June 07, 2012 04:10 AM (ZN5qR)

101 Good morning all, Always appreciate the news Vic. Thank you! Congratulations mama winger and Wisconsin on your victory! Last night I moved my full sun flowers into the open for more sun, so, of course, it frosted. I haven't checked the damage yet.

Posted by: MountainTurtle at June 07, 2012 04:10 AM (dDkQj)

102 I was surprised to see Robert Downey, Jr.'s (ostensible conservative) name on a list of attendees to a recent Obama fundraiser.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:10 AM (MMC8r)

103 Would you just give me a break?

You want me to honor the dead and the veterans on Memorial Day, D-Day, Flag Day, 4th-of-July, VJ-Day, VE-Day, Veterans Day and on the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Don't you realized that I am not really into that whole American patriotic culture thing?

For all the things I do for you, you ought to be grateful.  It's hard trying to fundamentally change this country full of crackers and Nazis.  It has become apparent that you really, really don't deserve me.


Posted by: Emperor Hussein at June 07, 2012 04:10 AM (O3R/2)

104 If, when, EbolaCare is mashed like a cockroach this month, is pudding suggested or is some other celebratory item preferred?

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:10 AM (6KkLK)

105 I'm sorry, but every time I read, Chaz Bono, Cher's son I snicker. I am a bad bad person.

Posted by: DangerGirl at June 07, 2012 04:12 AM (z+Xap)

106 DangerGirl, 

You are not bad.  You are part of the "reality-based" culture.

Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:13 AM (O3R/2)

107 I am a bad bad person.Posted by: DangerGirl at June 07, 2012 08:12 AM


No.

You're normal.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:14 AM (sbV1u)

108 Gabe was being sarcastic. I like sarcasim

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:14 AM (Dnbau)

109

Saw the post last night about the Award to AoSHQ right before I went to work.

 

Nice couple of days, eh?

Posted by: HH at June 07, 2012 04:14 AM (v+ExF)

110 Getting bitchy about Gabe I see.

Everything he says sets off some people. I wonder why?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 04:15 AM (nEUpB)

111 even if I can't spell it.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:15 AM (Dnbau)

112 Absolutely.

Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:15 AM (O3R/2)

113 Everything he says sets off some people. I wonder why?Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 08:15


Inability to appreciate irony, sarcasm or wry humor.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:16 AM (sbV1u)

114 I think Mr. Bono was born with a male brain in a female body. That error is largely corrected now.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:16 AM (6KkLK)

115 From the "texting while driving" thing:
A jury earlier Wednesday convicted the 18-year-old Deveau of motor vehicle homicide and negligent operation while texting.

See, for some reason I just thing "motor vehicle homicide" should be good enough.  Why have a separate crime for "negligent operation while texting?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:17 AM (8y9MW)

116 If Obama was making the "she didn't go all the way down" joke on purpose, he's a skeevy lowlife. If it was a poorly chosen phrase, he's just an idiot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 07, 2012 04:17 AM (HethX)

117 Beavis:  Hee, hee.  He said "all the way down."

Posted by: Libra at June 07, 2012 04:18 AM (kd8U8)

118 Well, the house can pass a giant fucking spending reduction bill. Then the bill can go 200 yards to the Senate where it will die because Reid is still in control. In fact, it won't even be voted on since it won't get out of the dem controlled committees. So you can scream and yell all you want that everyone is a liberal pussy but until we take BOTH houses nothing is going to happen. Even then, if we don't have the president, we have to have a way to coerce him like Clinton with Welfare Reform.


I would love to cut spending by the strength of conservative will but, shit, that doesn't actually do anything. We have to elect people first and to do that we have to out fund-raise, out communicate, out turn-out, and out spin the drunken drug addled special interest left.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 04:20 AM (WCAIB)

119 Rove has an op-ed in the WSJ and the good news is that he gives Reince Priebus credit for his outstanding work following the wreckage that Michael Steele produced (although to give Steele credit, he kept his fucking yap shut and didn't impede anybody in 2010, unlike the fat fuck writing the op-ed).  Unfortunately he concentrates all his efforts on describing "the ground game" in getting out the vote; nowhere is there any praise for the benefits of what mama winger accurately said about how a conservative message works (I'm reading the dead tree version and can't run a search for "conservative" but my visual scan sure isn't finding it).  Nor is there any praise for the Tea Party, which I think was a big winner this week.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 04:21 AM (E4eMV)

120 Obama does have to at least pretend to like sex with her.

Otherwise what is the point of having a beard.

Posted by: Kristopher at June 07, 2012 04:23 AM (0aV2C)

121 George Washington was quite famous for his sex jokes about Martha. It is an old and cherished Presidential tradition.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:24 AM (6KkLK)

122 Apparently Obama likes making jokes about her being an inept lesbian. Odd behavior for a husband, that.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:25 AM (Dnbau)

123

Captain Hate, you know you love it when Rove is on TV on with his miniature whiteboard, puttin you some fuckin knowledge.

 

I'm just surprised he credited another human being with success. 

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 07, 2012 04:25 AM (JDIKC)

124 I would love to cut spending by the strength of conservative will but, shit, that doesn't actually do anything. We have to elect people first and to do that we have to out fund-raise, out communicate, out turn-out, and out spin the drunken drug addled special interest left.Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 08:20 AM


THIS.  But many people never let reality get in the way of righteous indignation.  The Purity Brigade lives.

This was my point early in the primary season.  You take what you can realistically get.  If I end up with Mitt Romney in the White House but total Republican control of both the House and Senate, that's a win.  No, I didn't want Romney, but he's more conservative than Obama.  To think otherwise is a denial of reality. 

To think you can reduce spending in the current environment without both houses on Congress on board is also a denial of reality.


Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:25 AM (sbV1u)

125 Nor is there any praise for the Tea Party, which I think was a big winner this week. Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 08:21 AM (E4eMV) It seems that most beltway slobbering RINOs fail to give credit to the T parties. Because if they did, they might actually have to admit the strong conservative message sells. Lord knows they don't want that.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:25 AM (9TTOe)

126 Bitchy about Gabe?

I'm sorry, did I miss something or does Gabe not make sure to link regularly to his pet issue?

 

Posted by: kdny at June 07, 2012 04:26 AM (MJ76f)

127 Mary Lincoln was a dominatrix. I think I read that in Abe's autobiography.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:26 AM (MMC8r)

128 Didn't Abraham Lincoln preface the Gettysburg Address by saying he goes at Mary's cooter like Sherman did Atlanta?

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 04:26 AM (E4eMV)

129 Nor is there any praise for the Tea Party, which I think was a big winner this week. Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 08:21 AM (E4eMV) Rove hates the TEA Party.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:27 AM (6KkLK)

130 So you can scream and yell all you want that everyone is a liberal pussy but until we take BOTH houses nothing is going to happen

Yeah, but there's a difference between not being able to cut spending and actively increasing spending.

Frankly, I would be happy- and think it would be the best case scenario- if not a single piece of legislation passed between now and the end of Obama's term.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:27 AM (8y9MW)

131 128, LOL.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:27 AM (9TTOe)

132 You wingnuts know Walker would not have won without the Koch brothers and their money.

Posted by: Greg at June 07, 2012 04:27 AM (VrVBw)

133 Why are dems always talking about Koch. See what I did there?

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:29 AM (Dnbau)

134 116 Lincolntf,
 
I'll take one from Column A and one from Column B. While I prefer 'low life idjit', the others work too.
 
'poorly chosen low life'
'skeezy idjit'
'poorly chosen skeezy'

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2012 04:29 AM (ccXZP)

135 Cap'n,

Calling Karl Rove a fat fuck is an insult.

Fat fucks, such as myself, are offended that you would somehow associated Karl Rove with us.


Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:29 AM (O3R/2)

136 What he said about his wife was not appropriate for two reasons. One, it's a public setting. If this were a small private gathering with personal friends then I wouldn't have any problem with it, but you don't say those kind of things about your wife in public. Second, he's the President of the United States and this kind of public comment is beneath the dignity of the his office. It's one thing for a comedian or celebrity to say something like this, it's quite another for the President to say it. But since he pisses all over the dignity of the office on a daily basis I guess this is just one more time.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 07, 2012 04:29 AM (E1JyF)

137 Posted by: Greg at June 07, 2012 08:27 AM (VrVBw)


Liberal logic:

Millions poured into campaigns by unions is proof of the vibrancy of democracy.

Millions poured into campaigns by people who earned their own money is a betrayal of democracy.

This fact was brought to you by the letters B and S.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:29 AM (sbV1u)

138 132 You wingnuts know Walker would not have won without the Koch brothers and their money. Posted by: Greg at June 07, 2012 08:27 AM (VrVBw) HAHAHAHAHA, Come, let me wipe the rim of my cocktail tumbler with your salty hippie tears. HAHAHAHHA

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:30 AM (9TTOe)

139 I really hope this is true: Jindal rising up the list for VP. http://tinyurl.com/bs2rgga h/t newsmax

Posted by: sleepy at June 07, 2012 04:30 AM (HOOye)

140 Apparently Obama likes making jokes about her being an inept lesbian. Odd behavior for a husband, that.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 08:25 AM (Dnbau)



Yeah, nothing gets me a sweaty bangfest evening with Mrs H like dropping something like that in public.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 04:30 AM (E4eMV)

141 Yeah, nothing gets me a sweaty bangfest evening with Mrs H like dropping something like that in public. Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 08:30 AM (E4eMV) Mrs. Sailor would wait till I was asleep and beat me to death with a ballbat.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:32 AM (9TTOe)

142 Yeah, nothing gets me a sweaty bangfest evening with Mrs H like dropping something like that in public.Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 08:30 AM


See that's the point.  He hasn't counted on that since 1999.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:32 AM (sbV1u)

143 To think you can reduce spending in the current environment without both houses on Congress on board is also a denial of reality.


You and Dagney obviously don't know how spending bills work.  All it takes is some balls which only about half the House Republicans have.  You pass a budget bill with real cuts and you send it to the Senate with the message.  This is what you get, take it or leave it.


If they "leave it" you say tough titty and you get NOTHING.  That is an even bigger cut.


And that is what they actually ran on in 2010 and have not done because the House leadership is a bunch of crying pussies.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 04:32 AM (YdQQY)

144 I thought Gabe was being facetious. I could be wrong and often am though. I don't get the whole "outspent" meme. I've read that the DNC put in 18 million, the major unions (SEIU, etc) put up 21 million, local teachers' unions in multiple States sent in about 2 million and finally, WI democrats kicked in 4 million. That adds up to....let me see....(carry the bum)....about 9000 gazzillion dollars.

Posted by: Daybrother at June 07, 2012 04:33 AM (OT1dR)

145 I have never heard a husband imply his wife was a lesbian, and a poor one at that, before. Other jokes sure, like not enough sex, or doesn't like a particular thing, but never that she played for the other team. Weird. Hostile. And totally won't get you laid.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:33 AM (Dnbau)

146 You wingnuts are jealous that after a hard day fixing all of Bush's screwups that The President gets to mount his gorgeous wife while you fantasize about Sarah Palin in your singlewide frailers.

Posted by: Greg at June 07, 2012 04:34 AM (VrVBw)

147 If they "leave it" you say tough titty and you get NOTHING. That is an even bigger cut.Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 08:32


You obviously don't know how politics works.

We live here, and while your "plan" sounds good, that's not how it works here now, or ever for that matter.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:35 AM (sbV1u)

148 I saw on F&F this morning that Florida decided to press on with their purging of the voter rolls and basically told Holder and his flunkies to get bent. I know that there was a story the other day that they hadn't quite decided yet. Is what I saw this morning new or is F&F just late to the party (as usual)?

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 07, 2012 04:35 AM (E1JyF)

149 "Last night, the Canadian House of Commons voted to repeal the much-abused hate-speech section of the Canadian Human Rights Act. That free speech win was a long time coming in America's hat." ======= You can thank Ezra Levant, Michael Coren, Mark Steyn, et al for helping the free speech vs the Canadian Human Rights Commission issues. Not only are they extremely partisan, they go after those not on their side, and you have no recourse. It's like McCarthyism in reverse.

Posted by: sleepy at June 07, 2012 04:35 AM (HOOye)

150 Obama is hinting this is America's chance to elect the first openly "bearded" President. The bearded wife is tossed in as a bonus.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:35 AM (6KkLK)

151
122 Apparently Obama likes making jokes about her being an inept lesbian. Odd behavior for a husband, that.
Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 08:25 AM (Dnbau)


Well, when she unleashes a torrent of jokes about him being an inept "catcher", we'll know the reason why.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 07, 2012 04:36 AM (1QDVF)

152 House:  "You'll get nothing and you'll like it."

Senate: "Go ahead.  Shut down the government and see who gets blamed."


Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:36 AM (O3R/2)

153 Yeah, you "go along to get along" people are why we are here in the fix we are in.  There is a reason we have an opposition party.  They are supposed to "oppose", not agree all the damn time.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 04:36 AM (YdQQY)

154 Posted by: Greg at June 07, 2012 08:34 AM (VrVBw)


That is so over the top that someone's gotta be socking Greg.

Because even the most fair-minded observer will notice the similarity between Michelle Obama and Lieutenant Worf.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:37 AM (sbV1u)

155 Is what I saw this morning new or is FF just late to the party (as usual)?

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 07, 2012 08:35 AM (E1JyF)



I think it's at least 2 days old.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 04:37 AM (E4eMV)

156 Senate: "Go ahead. Shut down the government and see who gets blamed."


This ain't the 90s with no real news sources and Clinton. My word for that is "make my day".

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 04:37 AM (YdQQY)

157 Yeah Vic, that's what we are, we're all RINOs.  Everyone who doesn't see the world your way is a RINO.

Got it.

Moving on.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:37 AM (sbV1u)

158

A jury earlier Wednesday convicted the 18-year-old Deveau of motor vehicle homicide and negligent operation while texting.

See, for some reason I just thing "motor vehicle homicide" should be good enough. Why have a separate crime for "negligent operation while texting?"

 

It's bullshit.   How many accidents are caused by children in the car?  How about cheeseburgers?  Hamburgers? McNuggets?  Coffee?  Pets?

While we're at it, I'll wer a seatbelt when that guy in the motorcycle puts his on.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 04:38 AM (45YjM)

159

"That adds up to....let me see....(carry the bum)....about 9000 gazzillion dollars."

 

And all flushed down the toilet.

 

heh...

Posted by: HH at June 07, 2012 04:38 AM (v+ExF)

160 That is so over the top that someone's gotta be socking Greg. Because even the most fair-minded observer will notice the similarity between Michelle Obama and Lieutenant Worf. Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 08:37 AM (sbV1u) I disagree, I could get drunk enough to do Lt. Worf.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:38 AM (9TTOe)

161 146 You wingnuts are jealous that after a hard day fixing all of Bush's screwups that The President gets to mount his gorgeous wife while you fantasize about Sarah Palin in your singlewide frailers. Posted by: Greg at June 07, 2012 08:34 AM (VrVBw) http://tinyurl.com/c3lyqlq

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 07, 2012 04:39 AM (niZvt)

162 Yeah Vic, that's what we are, we're all RINOs. Everyone who doesn't see the world your way is a RINO.


Not true, Some of them are commies with a "D" after their name.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 04:39 AM (YdQQY)

163 Posted by: kdny at June 07, 2012 08:26 AM (MJ76f)

And raking him over the coals for his gay marriage crap is fine with me. But it seems like no matter what he says, some people take shots at him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 04:39 AM (nEUpB)

164 Planned Parenthood set up shop in L.A. area high school.
http://tinyurl.com/7n36tzo

Posted by: 1IDVET at June 07, 2012 04:40 AM (MEc0G)

165 Senate: "Go ahead. Shut down the government and see who gets blamed."

Yeah, I'm willing to take that dare.  The people are tired of the spending.  Wisconsin not only went Red, but then the "extreme" Governor survived a re-call (the first time in US History that has happened) with an even bigger percentage of the vote than he won initially.

I think we have enough evidence that the House could at least float a trial balloon, yes?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:40 AM (8y9MW)

166 See, for some reason I just thing "motor vehicle homicide" should be good enough. Why have a separate crime for "negligent operation while texting?"Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 08:38 AM


Massachusetts added that because the original law wasn't clear on the point about texting.

Although generally, I agree with you, it should qualify under motor vehicle homicide.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:40 AM (sbV1u)

167 Maybe the SCOAMF is implying he is very large and Moochelle isn't good at deep throat.

Posted by: BishopWash at June 07, 2012 04:40 AM (hqKrm)

168 Why do people sock Greg with impunity? Limp dicks.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:40 AM (MMC8r)

169 This ain't the 90s with no real news sources and Clinton. My word for that is "make my day". Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 08:37 AM (YdQQY) I think 2013 is the last chance the GOP gets to pull the "we're waiting for the right moment" gambit. If they fail to act next year, they are toast.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:41 AM (6KkLK)

170 My eyes!  My eyes!  My brain!

Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:41 AM (O3R/2)

171 Obama is hinting this is America's chance to elect the first openly "bearded" President.

I don't think SCOAMF is that subtle, or not without TOTUS anyway. Even if he is, how many voters will that get to the polls to vote for him? It does appear to be getting him donations, though.

Posted by: Retread at June 07, 2012 04:41 AM (joSBv)

172 164 Planned Parenthood set up shop in L.A. area high school. http://tinyurl.com/7n36tzo Posted by: 1IDVET at June 07, 2012 08:40 AM (MEc0G) So, are they aborting in the 50th trimester now? Of course then it wouldn't be a trimester would it?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:42 AM (9TTOe)

173

Maybe the SCOAMF is implying he is very large and Moochelle isn't good at deep throat.

 

See : Hotdog in hallway.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 04:42 AM (45YjM)

174 I like Gabe. It speaks to his character that he snarks on Obama's repulsive pandering in this instance. So what if we don't agree on everything. We agree on enough.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:42 AM (Dnbau)

175 Mamie Eisenhower liked it rough.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:42 AM (MMC8r)

176 If they had a budget. They don't have one so you can't cut it.

Posted by: dagny at June 07, 2012 04:43 AM (WCAIB)

177 See : Hotdog in hallway. Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 08:42 AM (45YjM) Broomstick in garbage can?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:43 AM (9TTOe)

178 Massachusetts added that because the original law wasn't clear on the point about texting.

What "point" is there to miss?  You were driving a car, you hit someone who you could have avoided, they died.  That's vehicular homicide.  What does it matter if you hit them because you were texting, or because you'd turned around to smack your kids, or because you were driving while otherwise impaired?

The law shouldn't be interested in "reasons" except, perhaps, as matters of degree.  It should be interested in actions and their consequences.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:43 AM (8y9MW)

179 Yahoo has a snarky little story about how GWB is the only ex-President with a below 50 percent approval rating.  (Really, Yahoo?  People love Jimmy Carter so much?)  No link because screw Yahoo.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 07, 2012 04:44 AM (i0App)

180 I wanted Boner and Co. to pass separate appropriations bills for each Dept.  Let the Senate decide what to let die and the Dog-eater to veto.

Oops.  No funding for the EPA.  Oops.  No funding for the Dept. of Injustice.  Etc.

Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:44 AM (O3R/2)

181 A direct assault on spending is too hard. Every dime has a professional constituency that will fight a rear guard action and you will die a death of a thousand cuts. Cut the money supply and strangle the beast. You get all those lobbyists fighting each other over less pie. As a side benefit less debt and lower taxes stimulate the economy, and you get re-elected.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2012 04:44 AM (wwZVW)

182 Jackie tapped Marilyn first.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:44 AM (6KkLK)

183 179 Yahoo has a snarky little story about how GWB is the only ex-President with a below 50 percent approval rating. (Really, Yahoo? People love Jimmy Carter so much?) No link because screw Yahoo. Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 07, 2012 08:44 AM (i0App) Yahoo is till in business?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:45 AM (9TTOe)

184 Sarc: My second favorite "asm"

Posted by: Caunotaucarius at June 07, 2012 04:45 AM (L5yyj)

185 Lady Byrd liked teh buttsex.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:45 AM (MMC8r)

186

That's vehicular homicide. What does it matter if you hit them because you were texting, or because you'd turned around to smack your kids, or because you were driving while otherwise impaired?

 

Thank MADD.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 04:45 AM (45YjM)

187 And back to Vic's first post, Lighthorse was right.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2012 04:45 AM (wwZVW)

188 Well, if he can have sexual thoughts about Moochelle, he's got a bigger imagination than I thought.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 07, 2012 04:45 AM (CP+yl)

189 He wasn't talking about her on him but on Ellen DeGeneres. And either way, not very dignified. And what husband talks about his wife going down on another woman, like ever?

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:46 AM (Dnbau)

190 182 Jackie tapped Marilyn first. Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 08:44 AM (6KkLK) I'd buy that video.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:46 AM (9TTOe)

191 Eleanor Roosevelt, now there was a chick who knew how to vacuum the carpet.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:46 AM (MMC8r)

192 Jimbo, hell I would go sub-cabinet level, quarterly without a budget.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2012 04:47 AM (wwZVW)

193 Roslyn Carter....never mind.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:48 AM (Dnbau)

194 Well, the house can pass a giant fucking spending reduction bill. Then the bill can go 200 yards to the Senate where it will die because Reid is still in control. In fact, it won't even be voted on since it won't get out of the dem controlled committees. Obama already threatened to veto this bill last week. http://www.eenews.net/public/EEDaily/2012/06/01/1 According to Vic's linked story, that veto threat was based solely on the numbers. The bipartisan support for opening Yucca is going to be a non-starter in Reid's Senate. This bill is dead letter. What would it have cost to stand on principle here?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 07, 2012 04:48 AM (p7SSh)

195 If they had a budget. They don't have one so you can't cut it.


Posted by: dagny at June 07, 2012 08:43 AM (WCAIB)



This wasn't a "budget bill"  which turns out to be worthless.  It was an actual funding bill for the EPA. So if they cut funding the EPA could get the reduced funding or zero.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 04:48 AM (YdQQY)

196 Cut the money supply and strangle the beast. You get all those lobbyists fighting each other over less pie

"Starve the Beast" hasn't worked in... (this, that, carry the SCOAMT...) ever.  Among other things are the fact we're allowed to BUDGET FOR DEFICITS.  Think about that, the US Government just gets to put on it's budget, "Yeah, we don't actually have this money, but we're going to spend it anyway."  That's insane.  It also means that, as far as the appropriators are concerned, money is a purely theoretical construct which allows them simply to will more into existence, regardless of what the Treasury brings in.

Yeah, cutting spending is going to be hard.  People are going to scream- we've seen it pretty well proven that you can state your case, however, and that the voters will back you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:49 AM (8y9MW)

197

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 08:45 AM (9TTOe

 

I think you have to use your Netscape browser to find it.

Posted by: HH at June 07, 2012 04:49 AM (v+ExF)

198 The homosexual community was all a glitter last night at an Obama fundraiser in L.A. The arousing reception afforded America's "first gay president" was quite a change from last year when Obama was heckled by gays at a similar event. Which just goes to show that not only can the gay community be bought for no money down, no payments are required as well. Ever.

Posted by: Punchy at June 07, 2012 04:49 AM (3p/jD)

199 What "point" is there to miss? You were driving a car, you hit someone who you could have avoided, they died. That's vehicular homicide.Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 08:43 AM (8y9MW)


First, I'm not disagreeing with you.  I only offered a reason why it was done.  Second, oddly enough, society changes over time and technology that wasn't around when the law was originally written may, occasionally, impact on society.  In which case it seems prudent to modify the law to ensure "coverage" of the original intent of the law.  As an example, until recently wiretap case law didn't cover the Internet.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 04:49 AM (sbV1u)

200   And what husband talks about his wife going down on another woman, like ever?

 

It can work.

Posted by: menage a Troy at June 07, 2012 04:50 AM (45YjM)

201 Sorry, not the EPA, the dept of energy.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 04:50 AM (YdQQY)

202 Dolly Madison personally interviewed every member of the Cabinet.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:50 AM (6KkLK)

203 Posted by: Punchy at June 07, 2012 08:49 AM (3p/jD) Can we call that a political glory hole?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 07, 2012 04:50 AM (9TTOe)

204 The sound of me fapping if Obama care is overturned will be audible on the largest moon of Neptune, Triton.

Posted by: Red hat crybaby at June 07, 2012 04:51 AM (euHC7)

205 It's a little known-fact that Calvin Coolidge's nickname of "Silent Cal" came not from his taciturnity, but from recurrent tongue blisters after marathon nine-hour sessions of oral sex on his wife Grace.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 04:51 AM (zF6Iw)

206 I think Bammy was trying to make a joke that his daughters, who are big Ellen fans, would enjoy.

He's thoughtful like that.

Why is it that I now have this mental image of A Gettysburg Address as a lowrent rocking double wide with smoke coming out the windows.

Thanks for that Captain H

Heh

Posted by: ontherocks at June 07, 2012 04:51 AM (aZ6ew)

207 I knew a guy who had a wife who was bi. He seemed to think he would get to be the cream in the oreo cookie. Didn't work out that way. She dumped him for women. And he still never talked about her that way. Not in public, or as a joke. Not before they broke up, not even after.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 04:53 AM (Dnbau)

208 Second, oddly enough, society changes over time and technology that wasn't around when the law was originally written may, occasionally, impact on society.

Yes, it does.  And I wasn't griping at you, but rather the people who actually believed that piece of pseudo-reasoning.  However, given both of those things- you can't seriously believe that texting while driving is somehow better or worse than any other form of distracted or impaired driving. 

The difference with wire-tap law is that it is very technology specific, and the way you would "tap" internet transmissions is different than the way you'd tap a phone line.  For one thing, there's a lot more chance that you'll accidentally pick up transmissions from people for whom you don't have a warrant for the tap.

I'm not saying that law shouldn't change when warranted; I'm saying that all of these stupid "with a cherry on top" laws are... well... stupid.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:54 AM (8y9MW)

209 Betty Ford only got rollin' after a couple 'ludes.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 04:54 AM (MMC8r)

210

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 08:51 AM (zF6Iw)

 

this and the '...'s celestial orifice' are two of my fav xocks.

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 04:54 AM (45YjM)

211 AllenG, end withholding and wait.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2012 04:54 AM (wwZVW)

212 Remember the discussion a couple of days ago.  People who say they are bi are really homo.


Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:54 AM (O3R/2)

213 Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 08:53 AM (Dnbau)

Interesting.

Maybe next time Obama will try to act like a man.

Ha Ha Ha Ha

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 04:55 AM (nEUpB)

214 204 The sound of me fapping if Obama care is overturned will be audible on the largest moon of Neptune, Triton.

Posted by: Red hat crybaby at June 07, 2012 08:51 AM (euHC7)


So is there any 'news' regarding that?  Reading between the tea leaves?

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 07, 2012 04:55 AM (FIDMq)

215 Which just goes to show that not only can the gay community be bought for no money down, no payments are required as well.

Ever.

Posted by: Punchy at June 07, 2012 08:49 AM (3p/jD)



Tammy Bruce has spared no bit of revulsion for the homos that have opened their wallets for such a blatant nothingburger as the JEF served up for them.  She compared them to battered wives who keep making excuses for the beatings.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 04:55 AM (E4eMV)

216 Because people aren't charged with VM when they are distracted by putting on makeup or slapping their kids or changing the radio dial, or eating, or just being a shitty, distracted driver.

Well, they should be.  But even if they aren't: that makes the "while texting" thing even more imbecilic.  If you're only going to use the VM law when someone was drunk, high, or texting, then you don't also need "kicker" laws to make those things somehow "more" illegal.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:56 AM (8y9MW)

217 To clear some things up:

(1) "To go down on a sex partner" does not solely refer to a woman with a woman, or even additionally a man performing oral on a woman. It means to orally stimulate a sex partner.

(2) I feel sorry for those of you who think oral is "deviant" or "perverted."

(3) I'm actually shocked at the comments suggesting that oral is deviant or perverted.

(4) Yes, when I wrote that I thought the joke was "absolutely" inappropriate, "absolutely" unacceptable, "absolutely" shocking, I was exaggerating and using the repeated, obnoxious, and unusual use of the word "absolutely" to indicate that I did not actually mean what I wrote.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 07, 2012 04:57 AM (DhD8T)

218 So is there any 'news' regarding that? Reading between the tea leaves?

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 07, 2012 08:55 AM (FIDMq)


18 Jim Geraghty looks at evidence that the Obamanites know that the Supremes are going to shoot down the individual mandate and that the law is going down the tubes.


http://is.gd/2omM9G

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 04:57 AM (YdQQY)

219 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 08:51 AM (zF6Iw)

I'm a little offended by your nic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 04:57 AM (nEUpB)

220 28 Did I read that right? Barky is bitching that Michelle doesn't go all the way down?

Classy.



That does not universally apply, it is a very specific thing.  If you know what I mean.  Nudge, nudge.  Wink, wink.  Say no more, sacred honor and such.

Posted by: The "Secret" Service at June 07, 2012 04:57 AM (HNn1q)

221 What?  No VM if you kill someone while receiving a BJ?


Posted by: Jimbo at June 07, 2012 04:57 AM (O3R/2)

222 Mamie Eisenhower collected models of submarines.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 04:57 AM (6KkLK)

223 Obama's got  the humor instincts of a 10 year old.

Note his scratching his face with his middle finger during the debates with Hillary. That's total grade school stuff.

I even think he did it in one of the national debates but can't remember.

He's clueless, classless and immature. I don't care how 'smart' anyone thinks he is, he's a pompous pathetic jerk.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 07, 2012 04:58 AM (CP+yl)

224 AllenG, end withholding and wait.

I still submit it wouldn't work.  I'd love to try it to see, but we work on a fiat currency which we've already proven we're willing to inflate just for S&G, and we assume we're going to spend more than we take in anyway.

There are only two ways to stop that: The sane method of, well, stopping that, and the insane way of waiting until the axiom "what can't continue, won't" is proven yet again.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 04:58 AM (8y9MW)

225 ...as far as the appropriators are concerned, money is a purely theoretical construct which allows them simply to will more into existence, regardless of what the Treasury brings in.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 08:49 AM (8y9MW)

 

------------------

 

Well, actually, they're right on that one.  Just because it's our enemy in charge of the budget right now doesn't really change the dynamic of how a modern fiat system works.

Taxes don't "fund" anything at the federal level - they're simply a money sink to drain the supply.  No money exists at all until it is spent into existence by the federal government.  Money that is taxed/fined/etc. only truly funds things at the state level where it acts as a commodity of limited supply.  Payment of money to the federal government simply removes that money from the system - returns it to the nothing from whence it came.

Thus, taxes are only relevant in two ways.  First, they create a demand for money, and force us to work for the government.  If we don't figure out a way to get that government-issued green stuff, and then give it to the government when ordered, we go to jail.  Second, they are used to modify behavior through incentives. 

Posted by: Reactionary at June 07, 2012 04:59 AM (xUM1Q)

226 Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 07, 2012 08:57 AM (DhD8T)

Oral sex is deviant and perverted -- when I'm not getting it.

And I absolutely cannot believe that you need to explain your obviously exaggerated comments.

People need to lighten up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 04:59 AM (nEUpB)

227 Who is too offended  to eat at the 'Y'?

Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 04:59 AM (45YjM)

228 Obama's got the humor instincts of a 10 year old. Obama has no humor instincts whatsoever. His 'special olympics' quip was high comedy to him.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 05:00 AM (MMC8r)

229 This is from a few day ago but I'm still offended. Kathleen Sebelius is rushing out loans & subsidies like nobody's business despite the fact or more likely because Obamacare might be overturned. Of the many billions of HHS venture capital, my particular favorite is the financing of "consumer-run" nonprofit insurance companies that basically are barred from having anyone in operations/management with expertise or experience in...insurance. Luckily, internal WH documents expect only a 91% loan default rate with the taxpayer on the hook for all future claim payments. Other details of HHS' growing investment portfolio are contained in the WSJ article which is behind a paywall but can be accessed by googling "Fannie Med" if you suffer from low blood pressure.

Posted by: jeannebodine at June 07, 2012 05:00 AM (byR8d)

230 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 08:58 AM (8y9MW)

Europe's meltdown will pump billions, or trillions into our economy, simply because there is nowhere else to put it. That will allow us to kick the can down the road for a few more years.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 05:01 AM (nEUpB)

231

Good morning, 'rons and 'ronettes. 

 

Since AOSHQ is going to be off-line, as it were, tomorrow, here's a little old movie roundup:  Sunday the 10 marks the birthday of Sessue Hayakawa, the first Asian actor in Hollywood to be cast as a leading man.  Immensely popular - at one time rivaling Chaplin and Douglas Fairbanks - with fans, his breakthrough movie was the silent "The Cheat," but he is best known today as Colonel Saito in "The Bridge On The River Kwai."

 

It also marks the day in 1924 when MGM, taking over the property from the Goldwyn company, fired the entire film crew of "Ben-Hur," scrapped the meagre amount of footage that existed, tore down all the sets and returned from Italy to California to reshoot.

 

Have a wonderful weekend, Horde.  Stay safe and happy.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 05:01 AM (zF6Iw)

232

To clear some things up:

(1) "To go down on a sex partner" does not solely refer to a woman with a woman, or even additionally a man performing oral on a woman. It means to orally stimulate a sex partner. <<<<<

 

Really?  I did not know that.  The things you learn at AoSHQ.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 07, 2012 05:01 AM (PFvlM)

233 129 Nor is there any praise for the Tea Party, which I think was a big winner this week. Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 08:21 AM (E4eMV) Rove hates the TEA Party. Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 08:27 AM (6KkLK) ----------- None of the "No Country for Old Men" GOP will give the Tea Party credit. It's disgusting, and delusional, not to mention a total mistake on their part. And, yea, Rove won't touch that. But, as evidence with the last WJS piece, he at least gives us some data points to chew on. It's nice to see where voter registration is, by state, where it is dropping or rising for a particular party. He can be useful - if you can avoid the rest: he literally is repulsive to me.

Posted by: sleepy at June 07, 2012 05:01 AM (HOOye)

234 Who is too offended to eat at the 'Y'?Posted by: garrett at June 07, 2012 08:59 AM (45YjM)


Not I!  I am Sappho!

Wait....I mean Spartacus!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 05:01 AM (sbV1u)

235 I thought he was giving her shit for her "toned" arms tbh until Ace started talking about it on twitter, but w/e.

If he's bragging about the size of his cock tho...then he's just a low grade loser.

Posted by: Eric Cartman at June 07, 2012 05:02 AM (zyaZ1)

236 Shirley Buchanan was James Buchanan in a dress and pumps.

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 05:02 AM (MMC8r)

237 When you surround yourself with perverts, your every word, deed and expression will be filtered through their perverted minds and twisted to their bent.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Anybody reading comments here at June 07, 2012 05:05 AM (NqmTy)

238 Initial UE claims came in at 377k. In other news, the beatings will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2012 05:05 AM (ccXZP)

239 Goddamn Sock

Posted by: Zakn at June 07, 2012 05:05 AM (zyaZ1)

240 Isn't the underlying issue that a sitting president felt he could make a tacky sex joke about his wife because it was in a group of homosexuals?

Posted by: nickless at June 07, 2012 05:05 AM (MMC8r)

241 Interesting piggy bank story. You learn something new, every day.

Posted by: mornin' coffee at June 07, 2012 05:05 AM (HOOye)

242 Europe's meltdown will pump billions, or trillions into our economy, simply because there is nowhere else to put it. That will allow us to kick the can down the road for a few more years.

Err... don't they owe us rather a lot of money?  And aren't we sort of counting on them at least servicing that debt to us?

Just sayin'

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 05:06 AM (8y9MW)

243 btw, new thread

Posted by: mornin' coffee at June 07, 2012 05:06 AM (HOOye)

244 the beatings will continue until morale improves. Beatings always improved Harry's morale.

Posted by: Bess Truman, dominatrix at June 07, 2012 05:06 AM (MMC8r)

245 Barack goes down with the best of them.

Posted by: George Clooney at June 07, 2012 05:07 AM (45YjM)

246 Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 07, 2012 08:57 AM (DhD8T) (1) Yeah, we knew that. (2) Agree. (3) Actually shocked or absolutely shocked? (4) Obviously. Like I said, it is an old and cherished Presidential tradition.

Posted by: eman at June 07, 2012 05:07 AM (6KkLK)

247 Get your own blog Vic.

Posted by: Get Your Own Blog Vic at June 07, 2012 05:08 AM (FJhdv)

248 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 09:06 AM (8y9MW)

Of course. But there is wealth that will flow to the safest place, and it's already happening in Greece and Spain.

I am referring to private equity, not public debt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 07, 2012 05:08 AM (nEUpB)

249 WOW, ace is up and posting at 9 am.

Posted by: Vic at June 07, 2012 05:10 AM (YdQQY)

250 It isn't about the oral, its about the subject of the oral and speaker. I thought the premise of the "joke" was that she wouldn't go "all the way down" on Ellen. We are supposed to infer that likewise she won't go "all the way down" on him? Didn't read that way, although sometimes tone gets lost in written text. No oral isn't deviant. But I don't recall a President, or anyone in a position of power similar to that (CEO, General), making jokes about his wife in that way. Weird. Hostile. Not very classy.

Posted by: thunderb at June 07, 2012 05:10 AM (Dnbau)

251 I, for one, enjoy Vic's "Hey! You goddamn Lefties get off my lawn" style.

Posted by: Daybrother at June 07, 2012 05:11 AM (OT1dR)

252 So did the president make a joke about sucking cock? It sounds like he is basically admitting that he thinks not going down all the way is bad, and in "push up" contests with Mooooochelle he "goes down" farther. Ladies and gentlemen Barack Obama just admitted he is a better cock sucker than his wife.

Posted by: Mr Pink at June 07, 2012 05:12 AM (euHC7)

253

"I'm a little offended by your nic." - Charlie Brown's Dildo.

 

Only a little?  Upgrade to platinum AoSHQ membership and you can be OUTRAGED!?!?!?!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 05:16 AM (zF6Iw)

254 hehe, did she NOT know that Dershowitz would come right back out and wallop her again? She just opened herself up for more ridicule.

Posted by: mornin' coffee at June 07, 2012 05:16 AM (HOOye)

255 Err... don't they owe us rather a lot of money? And aren't we sort of counting on them at least servicing that debt to us? Just sayin' I think they buy alot of our stuff, too

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2012 05:17 AM (WkuV6)

256 Only a little? Upgrade to platinum AoSHQ membership and you can be OUTRAGED!?!?!?! Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 09:16 AM


I'm sure there's a backstory to that nic, and I for one am DYING to hear it!

Posted by: Ellen DeGeneres at June 07, 2012 05:18 AM (sbV1u)

257 213 Remember the discussion a couple of days ago. People who say they are bi socialists are really homocommunists. Posted by: Jimbo FIFY

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2012 05:20 AM (WkuV6)

258 OT and BTW - how the hell do I close tags?  I know using carats with an I or B inside will open them, but doing the same thing with a backslash before the I or B doesn't close them.  Put me some f'ng knowledge, will you?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 05:20 AM (zF6Iw)

259 Err... don't they owe us rather a lot of money? And aren't we sort of counting on them at least servicing that debt to us?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 07, 2012 09:06 AM (8y9MW)

 

 

 

If they all defaulted (the sovereigns and the banks) it would get ugly pretty fast.  We'd have to do Tarp II.

But that said, my personal theory is that Greece will have a partial or full default.  Portugal might as well.  I think Ireland will muddle through, and that Spain and Italy will be bailed out. 

I also think that the ECB will be forced to carry out a bank bail out.  They'll go kicking and screaming, and the Germans will bitch and moan about it, but they'll do it.  A bank rescue would fix most of Spains worst issues - they're not the same kind of basket case that Greece is.

Posted by: Reactionary at June 07, 2012 05:20 AM (xUM1Q)

260 Mary Todd Lincoln: a notorious mid nineteenth century dominatrix who sold her dungeon at a profit, then married the sixteenth president of the United States. You may continue.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's earpiece at June 07, 2012 05:21 AM (jm/9g)

261 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 09:20 AM (zF6Iw)

Use BRACKETS, not carets

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 07, 2012 05:23 AM (sbV1u)

262 (4) Yes, when I wrote that I thought the joke was "absolutely" inappropriate, "absolutely" unacceptable, "absolutely" shocking, I was exaggerating and using the repeated, obnoxious, and unusual use of the word "absolutely" to indicate that I did not actually mean what I wrote. I was right! I was right! I got something right! Look at me!

Posted by: Daybrother at June 07, 2012 05:24 AM (OT1dR)

263 >>And he still never talked about her that way. Not in public, or as a joke. Not before they broke up, not even after.

Sounds like he actually cared about her, instead of just marrying her 'cause her father could get him in good with the Chicago Machine.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at June 07, 2012 05:28 AM (ZKzrr)

264 Yucca will be ordered to be reopened again regardless of any bills. So you're saying the house should "take a stand" when it won't go anywhere? Just to appease the pitchfork wavers?

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 05:28 AM (WCAIB)

265 I think it classeless that any husband would speak about his wife that way at a large public gathering.  For a Commander in Chief to speak that way about a First Lady on a memorable historic day, in a public venue is repulsive. 

If you want to make jokes like that as a private person at a private gathering, be my guest.  But don't stand up there as the CiC and the President of the greatest country on earth - ON D-DAY - and make jokes reminiscent of sweaty boys in junior high locker rooms. 

Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 05:34 AM (P6QsQ)

266 Smartest man in the room my ass.  Gutter rat is more like it.

Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 05:35 AM (P6QsQ)

267 I'm not sure the Democrats are even trying anymore. One Christopher Hahn on Fox News just said we need a big stimulus for infrastructure.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 07, 2012 05:36 AM (1c58W)

268 "What did you do on D-Day, grandpa? " - I saved the free world and lost a few of my buddies in the process.


"What did you do on D-Day, Mr. President?" - I made dirty jokes about my wife at a gay party.

Posted by: mama winger at June 07, 2012 05:38 AM (P6QsQ)

269 and I'm absolutely shocked that this president (or any president) would use a pregnant pause to suggest that he has sex-thoughts about his wife.





Having thoughts of having sex with Aunt Esther (Michelle) that's pretty disgusting

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2012 05:41 AM (1Jaio)

270 use BRACKETS, not carets.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 05:47 AM (zF6Iw)

271 Woo-hoo!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at June 07, 2012 05:47 AM (zF6Iw)

272 NRO Stanley Kurtz

Obama's Third Party History

Minutes of the meeting on January 11, 1996, of the [Socialist] New PartyÂ’s Chicago chapter read as follows:

Barack Obama, candidate for State Senate in the 13th Legislative District, gave a statement to the membership and answered questions. He signed the New Party “Candidate Contract” and requested an endorsement from the New Party. He also joined the New Party.

Consistent with this, a roster of the Chicago chapter of the New Party from early 1997 lists Obama as a member, with January 11, 1996, indicated as the date he joined.


Posted by: Beto at June 07, 2012 05:48 AM (lpWVn)

273 If Canada is America's hat,  can Rush be America's hat band?

Posted by: Dang at June 07, 2012 05:49 AM (Ky1+e)

274 Whoa, maybe McRINO has a useful purpose after all if he really chooses to go after the JEF's minions for leaking classified info although I'll be amazed if that fat cocksucker Carl Levin does anything on this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 05:53 AM (E4eMV)

275 AllenG, end withholding and wait.

Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2012 08:54 AM (wwZVW)

Exactly.  And also move tax day from April 15 to a week before Election Day.

Posted by: Darles Chickens at June 07, 2012 05:58 AM (NsRPe)

276 Canada just became even more awesome.

Posted by: MTF at June 07, 2012 06:00 AM (JOnLy)

277 More than two-thirds of Americans (68%) hope the Supreme Court will overturn some or all of the 2010 health care law, according to a new poll conducted by The New York Times and CBS News. Just 24 percent said they hoped the court “would keep the entire health care law in place.”

Posted by: Lee Atwater at June 07, 2012 06:02 AM (e8kgV)

278

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of Americans lining up for new jobless benefits fell last week for the first time since April, a hint that a slowdown in hiring last month may only be temporary.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits dropped 12,000 to a seasonally adjusted 377,000, the Labor Department said on Thursday. That was spot on the median forecast in a Reuters poll.



Oh yeah! This is a sure sign that everything is just peachy. The article doesn't mention last week's numbers. I'm guessing it got revised up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2012 06:03 AM (1Jaio)

279 My  EX -  BF  and  I  were all  about  all  the  way  down.

Posted by: Reggie's Love at June 07, 2012 06:04 AM (c3mby)

280 Big Gay Obama's Big Gay Fundraiser™.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 07, 2012 06:10 AM (v+QvA)

281 Did you see, that the prosecutors, weren't even willing to use, KSM's own admissions against him.

Posted by: Cthluthu at June 07, 2012 06:21 AM (6RslH)

282 So you're saying the house should "take a stand" when it won't go anywhere? Just to appease the pitchfork wavers? Yes. And yes. Obama already made noises about vetoing this bill, and he is blaming either the fact that it doesn't spend enough or the idea that spending that much is going to force cuts elsewhere. The demagoguery over the spending amount was baked into the cake long before this bill was ever written, and it's coming whether in increases funding only $87M or reduces it by $6B+ over FY2012. Is the version that passed going anywhere? Instead of chucking it against the wall to see what stuck, the GOP House had a chance on what is effectively a throwaway to run something up the flagpole to see who saluted. Maybe offended lobbyists really do have the juice to massacre all 110 of the Republicans who voted against that $3B cut come November. Maybe they don't. Now we'll never know. The simplest explanation is that those 110 Republicans truly believe that the $3B subject to cutting in that amendment *needs* to be spent. Where does that leave us?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 07, 2012 06:22 AM (p7SSh)

283 Did I read that right? Barky is bitching that Michelle doesn't go all the way down?
Classy.
Posted by: Fritz
Careful, Fritz, you don't want Gabe calling you out on the carpet for that crack.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2012 06:25 AM (nrW1y)

284 242

Not if he's "secretly" queer it isn't.

Posted by: he ain't smart at June 07, 2012 06:34 AM (B60j2)

285 I find my husband's joke hard to swallow.

Posted by: M. Obama at June 07, 2012 06:38 AM (SzAZ7)

286 EXCEPT Yucca is in the middle of a huge trial. So it would be useless/strange/a problem to pass a bill about it while it is being litigated. It would effectively do nothing.

Posted by: Dagny at June 07, 2012 06:42 AM (WCAIB)

287 EXCEPT Yucca is in the middle of a huge trial. So it would be useless/strange/a problem to pass a bill about it while it is being litigated. It would effectively do nothing. Huh? That's exactly what the House did and with bipartisan approval. http://tinyurl.com/7fqbj3t

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 07, 2012 06:48 AM (p7SSh)

288 "Gonorrhoea is becoming a major public health challenge," said Manjula Lusti-Narasimhan, from the WHO's department of reproductive health and research. She said more than 106 million people are newly infected with the disease every year.

"The organism is what we term a superbug - it has developed resistance to virtually every class of antibiotics that exists," she told a briefing in Geneva. "If gonococcal infections become untreatable, the health implications are significant."

Posted by: Bill Burkett at June 07, 2012 06:50 AM (e8kgV)

289 And, I've read recently, that the new and improved gonorrhea cases in Toronto are currently confined to young men for some strange reason.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2012 06:54 AM (nrW1y)

290 Nothing says class like making your wife the butt of an off-color sexual joke told pubically- More Classy Jokes Obama Tells About Michelle (definitely NSFW) http://tinyurl.com/7rma8y3

Posted by: naturalfake at June 07, 2012 06:55 AM (G9qZk)

291 I'm f*cking confused.  I think eh's joking that she's stronger than him?  He does look kinda weak, but isn't joking about her arms racist?

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at June 07, 2012 06:56 AM (YxaXw)

292 I'll admit I haven't looked too hard, but does anyone have a reliable link to the WI recall spending comparisons?  I want to be able to slap down the 8-1 spending meme.  Trying to explain Citizens United will just hurt their brains.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at June 07, 2012 06:59 AM (YxaXw)

293

Anybody else read all the way to the end of that LAT article on the Obama gay fundraiser?  Among the attendees was Les Moonves, head of CBS News. 

 

I mean, WTF?  It's OK for the head of a major network news division to go to a partisan fundraiser?  Anybody think we'll see Roger Ailes showing up at any Romney events?

 

They've really gone all-in now for Obama.  What happens to them when he loses?

Posted by: rockmom at June 07, 2012 07:14 AM (aBlZ1)

294 Still waiting breathlessly for Bubba to won-up Barky with a Hillary Humina-Humina joke.

Posted by: Fritz at June 07, 2012 07:16 AM (ZN5qR)

295 They've really gone all-in now for Obama. What happens to them when he loses?

Posted by: rockmom at June 07, 2012 11:14 AM (aBlZ1)



Hopefully Jonestown 2.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 07, 2012 07:21 AM (E4eMV)

296 Nothing says class like making your wife the butt of an off-color sexual joke told pubically ISWYDT

Posted by: Bogart Bob at June 07, 2012 07:25 AM (evdj2)

297 And in other news.... President Obama slept in the Lincoln Bedroom last night....

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2012 07:26 AM (lZBBB)

298

They've really gone all-in now for Obama. What happens to them when he loses?

They're going to do their damdest to make sure that doesn't happen.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at June 07, 2012 07:30 AM (YxaXw)

299 I'll admit I haven't looked too hard, but does anyone have a reliable link to the WI recall spending comparisons? I want to be able to slap down the 8-1 spending meme. Trying to explain Citizens United will just hurt their brains.
Maybe the link in my sock puppet will help you, Ping Pong....

Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2012 07:31 AM (nrW1y)

300 This is much ado about nothing. Barky is clueless as the day is long and he was talking about push ups. Poorly worded and all, but seriously, morons & 'ettes, you're pushing some stuff that isn't there.

Posted by: GW McLintock at June 07, 2012 07:38 AM (uNvIg)

301

@gab,

I think at the very least, that joke was designed to go both ways...

...

...

Yea...

Posted by: miikeb at June 07, 2012 07:47 AM (x2bTX)

302 >>>>This is much ado about nothing. Barky is clueless as the day is long and he was talking about push ups.<<<<<

The Preezies entire IPOD playlist is rap and you thing he doesn't know what going down means?

Posted by: kdny at June 07, 2012 07:48 AM (MJ76f)

303 Not stopping the publication of sensitive national security information, operational information and methods-capabilities kind of stuff, after it has been submitted for review prior to publication is no different than intentionally leaking the damn info. I am finding the urge to hang someone from this administration for these kinds of  "not our fault" cover tricks is just about overwhelming.

Posted by: And Irresolute at June 07, 2012 07:54 AM (RC3M9)

304 blast from the past being bandied again...

"Alaskan legislators, trying to block the U.S. governmentÂ’s controversial treaty ceding to Russia eight islands belonging to Alaska, now have one more reason to fight — in addition to sovereignty, stateÂ’s rights and the fishing industry — namely, oil.  Alaska state Rep. John B. Coghill, R-Dist. 32. The U.S. State Department cannot continue to allow further encroachment of AlaskaÂ’s states rights and valuable economic resources.” The Senate ratified the U.S.-U.S.S.R. Maritime Boundary Treaty in 1991, which was then signed by President George H.W. Bush. The Alaska House and Senate were never consulted during the treatyÂ’s negotiations, however, and recently have teamed up with the governor to send a strong message of protest to President Bill Clinton, without apparent effect, however. "

BLACK GOLD BLUES
"Oil adds to Alaskans' ire at island giveaway"
Congress ignores legislature's resolution condemning transfer to Russia
By David M. Bresnahan, WND
Published: 10/07/2000

Posted by: maverick muse at June 07, 2012 07:54 AM (lpWVn)

305 ...Meanwhile, at the White House, Pelosi plays a medium as a female ghost. Botox has a life of its own?

Posted by: maverick muse at June 07, 2012 08:02 AM (lpWVn)

306 "An Entire Terminal At Reagan National Airport Stopped To Recognize These World War II Heroes"  http://tinyurl.com/7gbb49k

(it's business insider, warning:  don't watch at work, you will cry)



Posted by: the cryers..... at June 07, 2012 08:07 AM (oZfic)

307 I wonder what kind of lap dance Bernanke will do today before Congress. Hot and steamy or just ho hum boring ass covering. Gimme a little stimulus bump and grind, Ben!

Posted by: And Irresolute at June 07, 2012 08:09 AM (RC3M9)

308

Maybe the link in my sock puppet will help you, Ping Pong....

Thanks.  It's not sourced, but man that's one tangled web.  I haven't jumped in any frays yet, but I'm getting tired of "Koch Bros. blah blah blah" and of course if I beg to differ than I am required by rules to have 3 pages of cites.  At this point though I'm honestly ready to just say "I read it in f*ck you".

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at June 07, 2012 08:12 AM (YxaXw)

309 Oh, great! The Chinese central bank just cut interest rates so that we can belly up to the bar again. Damn, hell! And now if Brussels finds a way to throw a few buckets of money onto Spain's problems, BO may get a real edge in economic news from his communist and socialist supporters from around the world. Heads up, Mitt, get a counter-attack ready!

Posted by: And Irresolute at June 07, 2012 08:29 AM (RC3M9)

310 "Gold Plunges As Bernanke Speaks: China Is Most Grateful"

http://tinyurl.com/d4bjow7

Posted by: the cryers..... at June 07, 2012 08:37 AM (oZfic)

311 Reading the offcolor joke about his wife being a lesbian reminds me of alinsky advising to use low brow humor as much as possible.

Posted by: yerro at June 07, 2012 09:07 AM (FfQxh)

312 The President of the US making BJ jokes at a public event? Sorry, that's just too tacky for words. Sock Puppet claims another "unprecedented": unprecedented crudeness.

Posted by: PsychoDad at June 07, 2012 09:07 AM (1CKyO)

313 Be sure to blow some hysterical snot bubbles for us while you are crying about Wisconsin, Greg.

Posted by: Kristopher at June 07, 2012 03:37 PM (0aV2C)

314 Comments still working?

Posted by: dri at June 09, 2012 04:55 AM (O0sWl)

315 What do people think about the new comment policy?

Posted by: dri at June 09, 2012 04:56 AM (O0sWl)

316 Ace spelled out what was helpful and what wasn't and depended on people's good will to see it through. It was a pretty simple request, easily followed.

No surprise that Ace shuts down commenting when some jerk-offs decide they are too good for boundaries meant to protect their host.

Posted by: RAB at June 09, 2012 05:42 AM (5LZzH)

317 Just when my IP gets Un-banned (in error) comments go down.   Wish there was something I could do stronger than just moral support or tip jar. 

Posted by: trainer (formerly banned) at June 09, 2012 06:43 AM (1QEkm)

318 Interestingly enough, commenting does not appear to be uniformly shut down...

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 09, 2012 01:17 PM (T0qpw)

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