1 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Thursday, June 14, 2012.  On this day in 1777 the Continental Congress adopted the stars and stripes as our national flag.  Asshole Woodrow Wilson used that to make a proclamation in 1916 to make today flag day.  Congress made it official in 1949 because, in reality, Wilson didnÂ’t have the authority to do what he did.  So if you donÂ’t fly your flag every day, lets get it out there this morning.

2
Cry me a friggin' river:

How PA group shamed teachers in union fight

When Neshaminy School District teachers walked off the job in a labor protest last week for the second time this school year, a list of six hundred strikers' pay and benefits was quickly posted as an ad in the local newspaper by an anti-union group sympathetic to the elected school board's firm stand against boosting school pay and benefits.
...
The ad, prepared from data collected by local activists in a Right-to-Know request last winter, showed the average Neshaminy striker receiving more than $100,000 a year in annual pay and benefits (with benefits accounting for one-fifth to more than one-third of each striker's total).
...
Citizens Alliance, based in Lemonye, suburban Harrisburg, celebrated as teachers cancelled their strike. The ad "turned the battle" against the teachers, Philadelphia landlord Bob Guzzardi, who blasts pro-conservative messages to a long list of fellow activists, insisted.

http://tinyurl.com/cdkhhs3

3 Six committee members tell Obama to pick somebody else for Iraq envoy.  One of the conservative magazine/blog type sites I hit yesterday said this guy was one floor short of the top elevator, so there is more to this than “lack of experience”.

http://is.gd/waJjxG

4 Panetta denies that info given to Ben Laden film makers. Does anyone believe him?  I donÂ’t.

http://is.gd/pKDcNS

5 Good News story of the morning.  Homeless man finds $70K in park.  City council has finally got around to saying he can keep it. I hope he knows that it is considered “income” and he will not be able to actually “keep all of it”.  

http://is.gd/QAxXdM

6 Gee, and we thought they were going to hold Holder in contempt.  We should have known better.

http://is.gd/LBMwrA

7 Edwards walks.  No new trial.  I said a few weeks back that the trial was in trouble.

http://is.gd/LeYs24

8 Harry Reid hasnÂ’t brought a budget bill to the floor in years but he has time to regulate boxing?  WTF does congress have to do with boxing?  Not in my Constitution Harry you stupid crooked dipshit.

http://is.gd/lFNriw

9 Rand Paul floats a bill requiring warrant to use drones to spy on Americans.  Personally I am ambivalent about this one.  I think the courts would find it Constitutional because if you are out in public you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy. The other problem I have with it is there are a whole lot more things that need more attention than this shit as far as police tactics and abuses go.

http://is.gd/T2SrOu

10 Wired Magazine speculates that Obama is going to legalize marijuana as an October surprise to get young voters out.  He supposedly plans to do this by ballot initiatives in States.

http://is.gd/vdF0lt

11 I said yesterday that I smelled a rat on gas prices.  Trump says Obama cut a deal with the Saudis to keep oil prices down until after the election.  But how reliable is Trump?

http://is.gd/2ITcxk

12 Dingy Harry continues to flood the pork bill known as Farm with more pork amendments.  Fox reported yesterday that 80% of the $1T bill is dedicated to SNAP.   I recommend that the House kill this bill in its entirety and send no money to the DOA.  No welfare for deadbeats, be they individuals or corporate farms who get the bulk of all the payments anyway.  But that will never happen.

http://is.gd/IyRfOp

13 Union says they will cut funding to Democrats and Obama.  I say bull shit.  They are just as big a liar as he is, but yes they make cut some funding.  But the reason is their membership is dropping like a rock and they can force people to join and give money anymore.

http://is.gd/BYlM05

14 Happy Birthday US Army, Happy Flag Day.

15 Morning Joe bashes conservative bloggers, Juan William bashes conservative bloggers in a heated debate with MM. Either we have a new “Journolist” or the WH is pushing a new coordinated attack which the MFM is glad to help with.

http://is.gd/8ZW5w3

http://is.gd/j29l34

16 Imagine if we had a real conservative Hollywood in an alternate universe and they showed ObamaÂ’s head on a spike.

http://is.gd/Ca6IHx

17 lungs found on sidewalk are not human.

http://is.gd/6DHxZR

18 HereÂ’s what coaches who get convicted of abusing young boys get in SC.  50 years in prison and the prosecutors are looking at ways to guarantee the only way he gets out of prison is in a box.  Look out PA, this is what you need to do.

http://is.gd/xD6A7J

19 Thomas Sowell writes one of those rare columns that I disagree with.

Barack Obama: Dictator of the Left

It bothers me a little when conservatives call Barack Obama a “socialist.” He certainly is an enemy of the free market, and wants politicians and bureaucrats to make the fundamental decisions about the economy. But that does not mean that he wants government ownership of the means of production, which has long been a standard definition of socialism.

I have to go with two authorities on this one Mr. Sowell, plus ObamaÂ’s own actions.  First off Fascism is an offshoot and subcategory of socialism.  I refer you to another columnistÂ’s book by Jonah Goldberg, Liberal Fascism which you discuss, but I feel like you have misinterpreted.

http://is.gd/XOkak0

Second off, Socialism is not the economy of government owning the means of production.  That is a label developed by the liberals so they could avoid the bad label of what it really is, Communism.  The man who invented Communism, Karl Marx, said that Socialism is merely an intermittent step on the way to Communism.  And yes, we became a Socialist country in the 30s under FDR because in reality, Socialism is a form of big brother government in which the peopleÂ’s money is used to support other people who are deemed to be “in need of help”, usually for dubious reasons.  It is a transfer of wealth from the producers to the looters as described by Bastiat.

And thirdly, Obama and Pelosi have in fact started even more nationalization of industry.  They are adding that to the already set in place practice that the Democrats started long ago in infringing on private property rights which is another hallmark of Communism.  The Obamanites in the three short years that they have been in office have nationalized 2/3 of the U.S. auto industry and one of the largest industries in the U.S, the healthcare industry.  They had plans to nationalize the electric utility industry through the crap and tax scheme but were balked by congress when they realized that the voters may rise up and kick everyone of their commie asses to the curb.


So yes, Obama is a Communist.  And obviously you wrote this before the unearthing of documentation that he joined a Communist group in Chicago several years back.  

http://is.gd/wiRkgB

20 And thatÂ’s it for the news this morning.  Morons I want you to know how dedicated I am.  I got up at 02:30 this morning so I could put this together and still go down to the store for groceries.  But it did give me time after I got back to eat my shit on a shingle breakfast while watching PAB in the leg chair in the “pre-morning show”.  Damn why donÂ’t they move that babe to replace Imus on FoxB and kick his slimy ass back to whatever shit hole he oozed out of.

21 Also, on this day in 1995, Beefy Meatball, Jr. was born. June is good.

22 lungs found on sidewalk are not human.

Are you sure? I swear I coughed mine up last week.

23 HBO apologizes after ‘Game of Thrones’ scene featured severed head resembling former President George W. Bush And you wonder why more people still blame President Bush rather than obama? Because most people are sheep being lead to slaughter by the Hollywood elite. Fuckem all

24 Gallop is probably wrong but  even if right, I can see how that would be thanks to the endless drone of the propaganda from the MFM.

25 PAB is better than PB&J.

26 more Americans blame Bush for the current state of the economy than blame Obama. But only one of them is on the ballot.

27 Nice little project exposing Brett Kimberlin: http://tinyurl.com/cz7yl8b

It seeks to change google rankings for Brett's site, and needs some link love to accomplish that, so consider hitting the link.

28 Who is PBJ.

29 Vic re 11...when is this deal with the Saudis going to occur?... prices here in NE Ohio are at $3.75 a gallon.

30 Supposedly it has already occurred and this is the reason for the dropping prices in most of the country,

31 Meh....guess I should consider myself lucky then...

32 Posted by: Matt in Maine at June 14, 2012 07:11 AM (gWLRb)


My understanding is that ace doesn't want us to use that name here because the owner of it searches the net for it to see who is talking about him.


Also, why do we want to give him traffic?

33 Meh....guess I should consider myself lucky then...

Posted by: billygoat at June 14, 2012 07:15 AM (gbD0f)

I am nor sure how much I would trust something put out by Trump.

34 Hey, they hung on to Herbert Hoover for most of the 20th century.

35

Well, thanks, Vic and Gabe.  As if I wasn't feeling bad enough already.  Between this and Ann Barnhardt's daily dose of doom, I'm about ready for the gas pipe.

 

deep breath, trying to drive away despair

 

No good classic movie stuff happened today, but here's a story about Irving Berlin, composer of God Bless America, White Christmas and many others -

 

1943 saw the release of This Is The Army, a Warner Brothers musical made to boost morale.  Among the many cast members were Kate Smith, Alan Hale Sr. and a Lieutenant R.W. Reagan, who would leave films for a modest political career.  Near the close of the movie, Berlin himself, dressed as a 1917-era private, steps on stage to sing Oh, How I Hate to Get Up in the Morning, which he had written years before for a musical review called Yip! Yip! Yaphank.

 

Berlin's voice was naturally soft and reedy.  As he was lip-synching to his own playback, one extra turned to another and said "If the guy who wrote that could hear this guy sing it, he'd turn over in his grave."

 

And that's it for me.  Looks like a bad day at work to go with the bad political news and my own depression.  Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

 

Hope the rest of you 'rons and 'ronettes have a wonderful day.

36 Sorry if we're not supposed to mention the name, I didn't know that, but the link goes to an anti-voldemort site, not to somewhere you don't want to go, uh, the place that must not be named?  Wait, this is confusing.

37 BTW, SCOAMF in CLE today...Jay Carney claims he will be outlining his 4 year plan...LOL!

38 I'll be flying my flag today but it's proudly waving EVERY day at Casa Zeera.

39 Well I did give one good news story.

40 Sorry if we're not supposed to mention the name, I didn't know that, but the link goes to an anti-voldemort site,

No it went to his site.

41 ...so to "Miss Me Yet?" the answer resounds, NO.

42 strikers' pay and benefits was quickly posted as an ad in the local newspaper

This should be mandatory whenever a public sector union goes on strike.  Let the public decide based on actual data if the strike is warranted or not. 

43 No, Vic, it goes to a site that points out that 'Velvet Revolution' is not a copyrightable term.

44 Lungs on pavement not human?

45 HBO apologizes

Its too late for that with HBO.  This is one of a litany of issues I have with them.  All I want at this point is to see them out of business.

46 No, Vic, it goes to a site that points out that 'Velvet Revolution' is not a copyrightable term.

Posted by: nickless at June 14, 2012 07:22 AM (MMC8r)

I didn't read it close as soon as I saw that word which I believe is the name of one of his sites I closed the tab.

So sorry if I misspoke.

47

Well, I did give one good news story.

 

I know you did, Vic, and thanks for all the links.  I really appreciate the work you do gathering this stuff; it helps me keep in the loop.  I'm just feeling pretty lousy today, that's all, so no reflection on you.

 

And I didn't hear that shit about Game Of Thrones.  I'm glad I don't have HBO.  And it gives me a reason never to rent or buy the show.

48 Its too late for that with HBO. This is one of a litany of issues I have with them. All I want at this point is to see them out of business.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at June 14, 2012 07:23 AM (JkFQG)

We got 3 days of free HBO a couple of weeks ago on DISH.  Out of three days there was not one movie or show worth a shit.

49 Wilson didnÂ’t have the authority to do what he did. Imagine that, esp. with him being a smart professor

50 Lungs on pavement not human?

If they were do you think they'd ever admit it?  Then they'd have to go looking for the rest of the body, and that would involve actual work and a blizzard of paperwork what would never end...unsolved murders are never closed.

51 I wouldn't put a penny on Donald Trump's theories.

52 God damn at that poll.

Part of me wants to see Obama reelected just to find out if after 7 years poeple will still be blaming Bush.  (A tiny misanthrope side of me.)

53 I wish I had a $1.00 for every Trump theory.

54 The end is near for HBO, they are getting hammered by netflix, etc.

55 The rumor that the Donald has one 63 mile-long hair is definitely untrue.

56 And the producers are claiming that using the Bush head was unintentional, that they just happened to have one lying around. Right, because, you know, they just happen to keep fake Bush heads around in the prop room because they might need one some time.

57

Does anybody ever venture so much as a theory as to what George exactly DID to "cause" this economic crunch? All he ever did was the tax "cut" that increased revenue, and that Obama extended, and spend too much (like Obama has outdone him on). Nobody has still figured out that Fannie & Freddie was - and STILL IS - a ticking time bomb?

58 lungs found on sidewalk are not human. --- So.... alien?

59 The Weekly Standard, Jun 13, 2012
"State Dept. Video: 'Visit America: It's Easier than You Think'"
Says visa process is now smoother.
By DANIEL HALPER

"Visit America," a caption reads. "It's easier than you think." As tranquil music plays in the background. The only voice in the video is that of President Obama, "We've got the best product to sell," Obama says from Walt Disney World Resort in Orlando, Florida. (A slogan appears "Department of State: Promoting Security, Welcoming the World."

--

...where else on earth but America would tax payers fund such an idiotic public relations campaign? Just HOW DUMB does the Obama administration count on LEGAL tourists being? "Visit America: Get Groped, it's easier than you think."  No doubt, whether you like it or not.

60 damn

61 I said yesterday that I smelled a rat on gas prices. Trump says Obama cut a deal with the Saudis to keep oil prices down until after the election. But how reliable is Trump?

http://is.gd/2ITcxk

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY)

Dollar's stronger on the international monetary markets.  It's not a secret deal, just the Euro taking a giant shit and people freaking out.  Trump's just being an asshole.

62 58...like we have time for that...!

63 They are showing some of us Navy Types singing the National Anthem in honor of Flag Day on FOX. And the Flag Honor Guard is from the Navy Reserve Center in NYC. They were practicing in the Parking Lot all Weekend.

64 Any of the morning morons listen to the president recordings from the overnight post? It was fascinating to hear how accents change. To me TR was the most surprising.

65 Morning, Vic.

And thanks for the news round up you do..  

66 Sowell:
But that does not mean that he [Obama] wants government ownership of the means of production, which has long been a standard definition of socialism.

GM.

67 Too bad they didn't include Calvin Coolidge's cover of 'I Like Big Butts.'

68 Either we have a new “Journolist”


Do you honestly think the old one ever shut down?  For them, "learning their lesson" means doing the same thing under a different moniker.


BTW, SCOAMF in CLE today...Jay Carney claims he will be outlining his 4 year plan...LOL!

Posted by: billygoat at June 14, 2012 07:19 AM (gbD0f)

Hey, billy.  The only question is will the stupid cockmunch repeat that dumbass line about having to pick up the tab for a steak dinner.  Once the King of Dumbfuck gets a line in his empty head (or up his nose) it's hard to get it out like the car in the ditch assholery.  I just want to know how they found so many deadbeats to go to the stupid thing, which is supposedly sold out, since those Occupy bridge plotters are in jail.

69 Today's celebrity birthdays: Harriet Beecher Stowe Alois Alzheimer Burl Ives Sam Wanamaker Gene Barry Pierre Salinger Che Guevara Junior Walker Marla Gibbs Sheriff Joe Arpaio Steny Hoyer Donald Trump Will Patton Boy George Yasmine Bleeth Steffi Graf

70 Question. Why did my hash change after the tightening of access to comments, but a certain annoying commenter's never changes?

71 Robert, most of the problem at the is due to the Trrasury, not the EPA/Interior/Energy

72 20 And that’s it for the news this morning. Morons I want you to know how dedicated I am. I got up at 02:30 this morning so I could put this together and still go down to the store for groceries. But it did give me time after I got back to eat my shit on a shingle breakfast while watching PAB in the leg chair in the “pre-morning show”. Damn why don’t they move that babe to replace Imus on FoxB and kick his slimy ass back to whatever shit hole he oozed out of. Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 07:05 AM (YdQQY) Amen Brother. PAB is #1. I don't know what the fuck Imus is.

73 PAB could bring me a PBJ and a PBR anytime, IYKWIM.

74 Today's celebrity deaths: Benedict Arnold Henry Mancini Richard Jaeckel Kurt Waldheim

75 I don't know what the fuck Imus is. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 07:41 AM (9TTOe) Imus in the Morning? He is Don Imus, an ex drug addict who has skin like a lizard and who supported obama last time out but now hates him. He is married to an annoying younger gal who is a health nut. Imus is reported, by all who know him, to be a nasty bastard.

76 It's now called the CabaList (cabal List)

Can't remember where I saw that though.

77 69...hey Captain!...I'm sure the union buses will be lined up outside tri c today that's the only way they can get people to hear SCOAMF spew his bullshit....

78 Ugh. No ampersand. PBandJ then.

79 Happy Birthday, US Army.

Over hill over dale we will hit the dusty trail
As the caissons go rolling along.
Up and down, in and out,
Counter march and right about,
And our caissons go rolling along.
For it's hi-hi-hee in the Field Artillery,
Shout out the number loud and strong.
Till our final ride, It will always be our pride
To keep those caissons a rolling along.
(Keep them rolling - keep them rolling)*
Keep those caissons a rolling along.
(B-a-t-t-e-r-y H-a-l-t!)*

Gruber, 1908

80

Any of the morning morons listen to the president recordings from the overnight post? It was fascinating to hear how accents change. To me TR was the most surprising.

Posted by: Long Island at June 14, 2012 07:36 AM (kzp9t)

 

I thought McKinley sounded just like W.C.Fields

81 68 Too bad they didn't include Calvin Coolidge's cover of 'I Like Big Butts.' Posted by: nickless at June 14, 2012 07:38 AM (MMC8r) When will I learn not to sip coffee and read at the same time. Avert eyes from screen, sip, return eyes to screen. Now there is coffee decorating my e-lek-tron-ics.

82 Burl Ives birthday? I should celebrate. I am named after a Burl Ives song.

83

Good mav, the original red leg version. I started with an 8" platoon, then MLRS, then the 155mm paladins. Good times. There's nothing like dipping your swab in a bucket of wolf pussy juice.

84 I'm sure the union buses will be lined up outside tri c today that's the only way they can get people to hear SCOAMF spew his bullshit....

Posted by: billygoat at June 14, 2012 07:45 AM (KJXYt)

I would go insane listening to that ignorant fuckface.  There will not be a single coherent thought expressed and to listen to such trite garbage is inconceivable.

85 Burl Ives, as much a part of my Christmas as trees and family. He sang and narrarated all of those shows I loved as a child. OK, I still love them. Have a Holly Jolly Christmas Mr. Ives.

86 Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2012 07:46 AM (lpWVn)

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I'm embarrassed by that song.

87 Henry Mancini

1960s Americana BEST HITS

I remember in 4th Grade Music class our teacher asking us if we could name any composers. Mancini! Hatari (Baby Elephant Walk), Pink Panther, fun loving and memorable.

88 Captain Hate at June 14, 2012 07:51 AM Yeah, what he said.

89 I would go insane listening to that ignorant fuckface. There will not be a single coherent thought expressed and to listen to such trite garbage is inconceivable.

----------------------------

Ditto.  He gets even more grating (if it's possible) when he tells a "joke" and the audience drools and laughs at it.  He always quickly goes into a shuck'n'jive speech pattern and repeats it again....like he's some asshat comedian.  Anyone ever notice that?

90 shuck'n'jive That's him to a "T"

91 Morning DaveC

92 He always quickly goes into a shuck'n'jive speech pattern and repeats it again....like he's some asshat comedian. Anyone ever notice that?

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 14, 2012 07:56 AM (vOMX+)

I call that his "Streets the Clown" routine.

93 Good Morning Vic. When are you coming to the Coast for mass quantities of assorted shellfish.

94 >>Either we have a new Journolist or the WH is pushing a new coordinated attack which the MFM is glad to help with.

Right after Obama complains about conservatives and Romney on Twitter. What a coincidence!!

95 LOL, probably not for a while. Still getting rad treatments to wifey.

96 Anyone ever notice that?
--
Yep.

 

97 96 LOL, probably not for a while. Still getting rad treatments to wifey. Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 08:02 AM (YdQQY) Hang in there.

98 Today is my dad's 86th birthday... Happy Birthday Dad! Last night I was looking for the video of the crying Wisconsin democracy is dead guy... instead I found the audio of a Leftist radio show he called... apparently, he is a stay-at-home dad with two daughters, Liberty and Clover. Here's the link, but I wouldn't advise listening right after eating breakfast. NSAE http://tinyurl.com/cgjlbhe

99 100-year-old Battleship Texas springs leak By Ramit Plushnick-Masti - The Associated Press Posted : Wednesday Jun 13, 2012 18:11:30 EDT LA PORTE, Texas — Children shimmy up the barrels of massive cannons on the upper decks of the 100-year-old Battleship Texas, focused on firing at an imaginary enemy and oblivious to the tension in the historic vessel’s belly where a crew works on pumping out dozens of gallons of oil-laced water. http://www.navytimes.com/news/2012/06/ap-battleship-texas-massive-leak-061312/

100 Maybe the JEF will forget he's in Cleveland and break out the "I'm LeBron" riff.  That would go over well at the world's largest temporary Kevin Durant fanbase.

101 Maybe the JEF will forget he's in Cleveland and break out the "I'm LeBron" riff. That would go over well at the world's largest temporary Kevin Durant fanbase. Posted by: Captain Hate at June 14, 2012 08:04 AM (V1ofh) Yeah. Go Thunder!

102 Drone causes UFO panic on Washington DC Beltway.

Drones, the american dream.

103

"Who is PBJ"

 

Pabst Blue Jibbon.

 

Next.

 

104 Drones, the american dream. Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2012 08:05 AM (lpWVn) Drones are clearly military. Isn't this a violation of Posse Comatatus?

105 83 Burl Ives birthday? I should celebrate. I am named after a Burl Ives song. Are you Froggy?

106 100-year-old Battleship Texas springs leak
By Ramit Plushnick-Masti - The Associated Press

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This shouldn't have been my take-away, but what the hell kind of a name is that?

107 madonna's t&a ain't so pretty.

NO
FEAR
ugly as hell tattoo

108 76 I don't know what the fuck Imus is.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 07:41 AM (9TTOe)


Imus in the Morning? He is Don Imus, an ex drug addict who has skin like a lizard and who supported obama last time out but now hates him. He is married to an annoying younger gal who is a health nut. Imus is reported, by all who know him, to be a nasty bastard.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 14, 2012 07:45 AM (05RcU)

You left out the "Nappy head" comment.  That one almost cost him the farm so to speak.

109 83 Burl Ives birthday? I should celebrate. I am named after a Burl Ives song. Are you Froggy? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 14, 2012 08:08 AM (4Wc+9) I would bet it's Holly.

110 This shouldn't have been my take-away, but what the hell kind of a name is that? Hindu-Jewish. (Hinduish?)

111 a stay-at-home dad with two daughters, Liberty and Clover.


The irony of a deadbeat cocksucker who has other people providing for him, and shills for the state to do likewise for others, naming a child "Liberty" is hot enough to melt to the center of the earth.

112 >> HBO apologizes after ‘Game of Thrones’ scene featured severed head resembling former President George W. Bush

Was that on when HBO was free to DirecTV and/or Dish peeps??

That would be quite a coincidence!!

113 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

114 Isn't this a violation of Posse Comatatus?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:07 AM (9TTOe)

Posse Comatatus has been weakened to the point of becoming irrelevant. Besides, all the police have become the same as the military anyway.  This thanks to the "war on drugs", spit.

115 Drones are clearly military. Isn't this a violation of Posse Comatatus?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:07 AM (9TTOe)

 

 

 

Depends on whether the military actually owns them.  I suspect these drones are owned by some law enforcement agency, making them essentially no more military than a wire tap. 

Besides - look at how some of the bigger city SWAT teams operate.  I'd be a lot more worried about those guys and their blood lust than about a drone buzzing around up above.  And indeed, I'd trust the regular military a lot farther than any civilian police force.

 

116 For those who missed it, a couple of posts over at my place regarding the IAM Strike at Lockheed Martin: The union is urging its members to solicit charity from charitable organizations, and to file for Unemployment Benefits.

117 The mistake on the lake is hosting the mistake in the White House today.  How apropos. 

Vic @ 9, what are your thoughts on drones that spy on Americans on their own property?  I was under the impression they were going to be used for things like flying over a farmer's land, counting cows, making sure they're adhering to whatever EPA bullcrap regulations, etc.  If that's the case, it sure seems like it has the potential to blossom into something really unholy. 

118 107 Female AP/Reuters correspondent (from Penn State University) who has been assigned previously in Jerusalem.  She now writes environmental pieces featured at Salon.

119 Posse Comatatus?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:07 AM (9TTOe)

HaHaHaHa!

120 Drone causes UFO panic on Washington DC Beltway. --- Because people around here are idiots.

121 This shouldn't have been my take-away, but what the hell kind of a name is that?

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 14, 2012 08:08 AM (vOMX+)

 

 

 

Yeah, really.  In the old days, people with unpronouncable names had the decency to anglicize them.  That was a good practice.  Now nobody cares if it takes 46 letters (mostly Ks, Zs, and Qs) to spell their name - they feel free to burden the rest of us.

122

108 madonna's ta ain't so pretty.

****

 

Nobody's taint is all that.

123 Newbusters reports of a male Ramit.

"Ramit Plushnick-Masti
Chicken Littles: AP Report Casts Texas v. EPA Fight as Risking Health of Texans"

By Tom Blumer | January 03, 2011

In his report on the escalating dispute between the State of Texas and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, one thing you cannot accuse Ramit Plushnick-Masti of the Associated Press of being is a master of understatement. He claims that "Both sides and conservation groups agree the battle has put the health of Texas residents and the environment at risk."

Really? The only problem is that the AP reporter never found anyone who is currently on the Texas side of the dispute who is saying anything remotely resembling that.

124 Happy Flag Day http://tinyurl.com/d3jhnw3

125 #58, I too would love to see the Lefts best argument for why or how Bush caused the recession in the first place.

126 Alois Alzheimer's birthday?  I'd forgotten about that.

127 Boy that smart diplomacy and a groveling President are working wonders for us all over the world:
http://tinyurl.com/7lkxbzy
and these are just our "allies"!

128 Posted by: Lady in Black at June 14, 2012 08:13 AM (vOMX+) That was my thought. You spend a few thousand dollars for a nice wooden fence around your back yard for privicy and now they can just use camera's. Are the going to sell the pics to insurance companies so they can see if you left the ladder in your pool and charge you more or worse drop you. How about stepping outside your house for a smoke. Who is going to see that? Your employer, insurance Co. That has to stop, they have blown way past any sense of freedom which is directly connected with privacy.

129 twitter
Ramit PlushnickMasti
A mom of three that sidelines as an environmental reporter for the AP in Houston

130 Vic @ 9, what are your thoughts on drones that spy on Americans on their own property?


As I said, I am somewhat ambivalent about it.  There already are a lot of people "spying" on you in your own property.  Recall the link I put up the other day about Google going to high resolution cameras ad aircraft to get even more detailed overhead pictures.


The courts have long ruled that if you are outside and visible there is no reasonable right to privacy. Anjd I still have a lot ore concers about the things they are doing in the name of the "War on Drugs" than drone spying.

Now if they start arming the drones with hell fire missiles, I may have a concern there.

131 NYC morons beware - rumor has it El Presidente will be at the WTC site around evening rush hour. Plan to never get home if you commute from NJ. AWESOME.

132 Posted by: Reactionary at June 14, 2012 08:16 AM (xUM1Q)

Well, I find that seemingly unpronounceable and/or hyphenated names involving lots of consonants all seem to anglicize as "A**hole!"

133 We get the Sunday paper and it comes with a Wednesday paper, too, for some reason.

There's an article about how GM's CEO blames the low stock price and lack of a dividend on the company's losses in Europe, their pension liability and uncertainty about the economy.

So of course the headline is "GM CEO blames Europe for low stock price".

Isn't that similar to what the president said recently??

Funny, that.

134 11 I said yesterday that I smelled a rat on gas prices. Trump says Obama cut a deal with the Saudis to keep oil prices down until after the election. But how reliable is Trump? http://is.gd/2ITcxk Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY) He doesn't have to be right, But just floating that out there will penetrate a lot of thick skulls. And if it helps even a small number of people to vote against him, mission accomplished. It's the equivalent of convincing the Germans that the real invasion will be with Patton at the Pas de Calais.

135 For those who missed it, a couple of posts over at my place regarding the IAM Strike at Lockheed Martin: The union is urging its members to solicit charity from charitable organizations, and to file for Unemployment Benefits.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 14, 2012 08:13 AM (8y9MW)

Unbelievable.  I'm trying to think of the casuistry that would be employed to justify unemployment benefits.  Maybe if somebody was forced to be in the union against his or her wishes and voted to accept the contract; but even that would be a reach and impossible to prove.  You have to be really fucking ignorant to go on strike in a time like now.  I hope Lockheed Martin tells them there's no fucking way they'll go one iota further.

136 Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle at June 14, 2012 08:19 AM (RL07x)

PATH WTC will be closed from 3:00pm to 6:00pm.

What an asshole. Closing during rush hour?

137 136, 11 Truthiness.

138 And just as equally routine that that are denied, unless they lie abut the little question "are you on strike"

Did you read the follow up?  According to the IAM website, they contacted the TWC.  Now, the TWC Response was not "oh, absolutely you'll get benefits," but neither was it, "no, we don't approve benefits for strikes."

I have sent a letter to the TWC for clarification and comment.  I'm not holding my breath for a response.

139 I hope Lockheed Martin tells them there's no fucking way they'll go one iota further.

LM is winning.  Already 200+ workers have crossed the picket line.  This is an absurdly dumb way to spend your PR capital.

140 >> Alois Alzheimer's birthday? I'd forgotten about that.

Groooooooan.

141 Drones are clearly military. Isn't this a violation of Posse Comatatus?
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:07 AM (9TTOe)

Drones are DHS.

Sheriff Offices and Police Departments can purchase Drones.

And these surveillance of civilian private property drones have been armed, I read this past month or so of the upheaval in one of Texas' counties. Sorry, don't remember which. I was just glad it wasn't mine. But then, my county unfortunately re-elected a sheriff who would do it secretly.

142 #100 The Texas shares the park with the San Jacinto Battleground Monument. It's really a nice place to take the family. I seem to remember alligators all over the place when I went there as a kid. The Lexington is at Corpus Christie, and that a nice tour, also. They've got nothing on Big Mo tho, but if you can make it to Hawaii, I'd recommend coming to Texas.

143 Burl Ives, as much a part of my Christmas as trees and family. He sang and narrarated all of those shows I loved as a child. OK, I still love them. Have a Holly Jolly Christmas Mr. Ives.

I know and old lady who swallowed a fly.
I don't know why she swallowed a fly.

144 Barky thinks that these little trips to places like the WTC in lower Manhattan will help him in getting elected.  Is he taking into account how much he is pissing off the commuters there?

Hell no, he and his team seem to be incredibly stupid this election.  Perhaps that is because he has never won a real honest election and mainly because he has been so insulated from real life his entire life he doesn't now what he is doing.

He is pissing off thousands of people commuting through lower Manhattan thus giving them a "bad vibe" on him.  This makes them more likely to sit it out on election day, especially in high population districts in the NE where lines are very long.


So this is good for us in the tuely weed land and bad for NYC folks.

145 Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2012 08:26 AM (lpWVn) Well, if some poor ass third world goat herders can get a hold of some trple A...

146 "I'm almost ready to vote for you right now." - an ecstatic Lindsey Graham endorsing Eric Holder during the 2009 Confirmation hearing.

147 Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 08:19 AM (YdQQY)

Where in the Constitution does it give the Federal government authority to fly drones over our neighborhoods, looking for potential lawbreaking?

Yes, a bit of hyperbole, but surveilling just because they have the technology will turn into regular flights over back yards. And then they will start to find crap that is none of their business.

I have zero trust in government and its ability to obey the law.

148 What an asshole. Closing during rush hour?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 14, 2012 08:22 AM (nEUpB)

But the President is a busy man and has to do important things on his schedule, knowing that the loving peasants will wait, in a traffic gridlock, while patiently cheering as his motorcade (with tinted windows) goes speeding by!

Noblesse oblige, mes enfants!"

149 What an asshole. Closing during rush hour?Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 14, 2012 08:22 AM (nEUpB)

It's not about you CBD, it's about him.

Oh dear God do we know it's all about him....

150 I have zero trust in government and its ability to obey the law.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 14, 2012 08:28 AM (nEUpB)

I don't trust them either, but there is no reasonable right to privacy outside.

151 #143 True, that- but if they ever arm them, they better stay high enuff to keep 'em outta small arms range. IYKWIMAITTYD

152 I think the courts would find it Constitutional because if you are out in public you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

Luckily for us, the Constitution never once says anything about a "reasonable expectation of privacy."  That was a utilitarian argument against things like random locker searches and other such things.

What the Constitution talks about is being "secure in [your] Person and [your] Papers."  That means the Government doesn't get to spy on you without a warrant.  Even if their new method of spying is some UAV that can record everything everyone in its sight is doing "in public."

153

"Alois Alzheimer's birthday?  I'd forgotten about that."

 

"Grooooooan."

 

Yeah, mama, like I'm the only one who thought that. . .

154 Is he taking into account how much he is pissing off the commuters there?Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 08:27 AM (YdQQY)

Metro New York?  Are you kidding?

They're in the can for Obama.  Always have been, always will be.  He could shit on a police car in the middle of Times Square at rush hour and they'd all think it was "charming."

155 Posted by: Retread at June 14, 2012 08:26 AM (I2fq9)

Oh the buzzin' of the bees
In the cigarette trees
Near the soda water fountain
At the lemonade springs
Where the bluebird sings
On the big rock candy mountain

156 Good morning everyone.

Happy Birthday, United States Army!

"This is the Army, Mr. Jones.
No private rooms or telephones.
You had your breakfast in bed before,
but you won't have it there anymore."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLgAbgEjMG0

157 Luckily for us, the Constitution never once says anything about a "reasonable expectation of privacy." That was a utilitarian argument against things like random locker searches and other such things.


There is no "right to privacy" mentioned in the Constitution at all.  Remember, that was a construct by the courts from the emanations and penumbras in Griswold.

The courts givith, and the courts taketh away.

158
386,000

Guess the number.

159 I don't trust them either, but there is no reasonable right to privacy outside. Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 08:30 AM (YdQQY) I disagree, If you build a wooden fence around your swimming pool and some perv holds a comera above it and starts taking pics of your children, is that legal? Maybe, i'm not sure. But it's wrong.

160 LM is winning. Already 200+ workers have crossed the picket line. This is an absurdly dumb way to spend your PR capital.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 14, 2012 08:24 AM (8y9MW)

I did subcontract work through LM a few years ago with DFAS.  It was nice having them as a buffer against the government cockwipes because at least I got paid in a timely fashion.  It must have been a continual headache for them because Kucinich was always bitching about them taking jobs that would otherwise go to lazy fucks that he could control.  I think once the JEF was elected (the project I was working on was done by then) he finally got them removed which must've been a relief for them, although I doubt some people regarded it as such.

161 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 14, 2012 08:31 AM (nEUpB)

Be kind to our web-footed friends,
For a duck may be somebody's mother.

162 I disagree, If you build a wooden fence around your swimming pool and some perv holds a comera above it and starts taking pics of your children, is that legal?


The paparazzi have been doing that to the stars for decades and they haven't been able to do anything about it. 


It isn't nice, but it isn't illegal.

163 Why are all these union people striking for?  Is Obumer's economy starting to sting 'em a little? 

164 SCOAMF at the WTC? Less than a mile from my apartment. Anyway, I'm working in midtown today so thank goodness for small miracles. And happy birthday to the US Army!

165 Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 14, 2012 08:28 AM (sbV1u)

I just spent an hour and 45 minutes in traffic, and I'll be doing it again this evening, so I am in no mood to tolerate Obama and his crap.

Obama would rather piss on the graves of the people who died, but his handlers told him to make an appearance. So he is going to punish thousands of commuters by delaying their evenings, all in the name of political expediency.

I hate that man more and more every day, and that's pretty incredible considering the baseline.

166 Be kind to our web-footed friends, For a duck may be somebody's mother. Posted by: Retread at June 14, 2012 08:35 AM (I2fq9) Did you do a wake n bake?

167 It isn't nice, but it isn't illegal.

Actually, it is illegal.  The reason the celebs don't do anything about it is they know its part of the price they pay to be celebrities.  The ones who do anything about it either only receive negative press or (worse, to them) no press at all.

But, strictly speaking, if some Hollywood celeb could find the photographer who took one of those back-yard photographs, they could sue them for a variety of things.

168 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 14, 2012 08:36 AM (nEUpB)

What is it about liberalism that breeds narcissism?

169 Posted by: Hrothgar at June 14, 2012 08:28 AM (i3+c5)

You're mocking him, but I think you are 100% correct. That is how he sees us.

170 Hey Vic here is one for you

Black Woman wins Democratic Party primary for SC7.  Democrats want runoff with white guy anyway.

What no cries of racism?

SOUTH CAROLINA, SC (WMBF) The South Carolina Democratic Party is insisting Wednesday that the votes cast for former 7th Congressional District candidate Ted Vick should be counted, and a run-off should be held between Gloria Bromell Tinubu and Preston Brittain.

On Tuesday evening, initial results pinned front runners Gloria Bromell Tinubu and Preston Brittain in a run-off election to be held on June 26, but after the South Carolina Election Commission discounted votes cast for former candidate Ted Vick, Tinubu was declared the winner with 52 percent of the vote.

Amanda Loveday, spokeswoman for the South Carolina Democratic Party, tells WMBF News that their attorneys are reaching out to the South Carolina Election Commission to find out why the votes for Ted Vick will not be counted, and what the next appropriate step should be.

http://tinyurl.com/6uccq8g

171 Actually, it is illegal. The reason the celebs don't do anything about it is they know its part of the price they pay to be celebrities. The ones who do anything about it either only receive negative press or (worse, to them) no press at all.


I disagree, it is only illegal if they come on your property or photograph you when you are inside the house.  Some of the stars have sued them and have tried to press invasion of privacy charges.  They lost.

172 What is it about liberalism that breeds narcissism? Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 14, 2012 08:38 AM (sbV1u) I think you are a narcissist before you become a liberal.

173 141 Beware the union dirty tricks retribution against it's non-solidarity members, even against LM production.

Where did LM union members in Texas come from, out of state? 

This simply is not the right time for a union to bite the employer's tit that feeds it. During a serious recessive/depression, don't demand any more than more of the same. Then again, if members are losing benefits promised and earned, "Houston, there's a problem." Altering from this point on is one thing. Denying funds already earned by contract is another. Do tell.

LM experiencing sales competition from Russia/Syria and China/NKorea? Did the US taxpayers just purchase Russian arms for Afghanistan? insane foreign policy, as if we can buy the world, EVEN IF our Dollar had solid value. "reset"

174 Why are all these union people striking for?

Well, the Teachers Unions are desperately trying to hold onto their political power.

The IAM machinists are upset that their premiums are going to go up a little, and they'll have a $2000.00 annual deductible on the health insurance.  Never mind the fact that base starting salary for a line machinist as LM is (if I heard correctly) $61K/yr, they'll be getting a little better than a 9% raise over 3 years (+$800/yr COLA), and a host of other benefits.

175 Happy Flag Day!!!

176 they better stay high enuff to keep 'em outta small arms range.


The LAPD would like to ask Angelenos to stop shooting at the Visitors ships.

177 Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 14, 2012 08:38 AM (sbV1u)

Liberalism is a mental disorder and its adherents are prone to multiple other personality disorders!

178 Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 08:30 AM (YdQQY)

Agreed, but as you and I know, the founders did not intend for government to fill every vacuum with government action. Unless there is a specific authority granted to government for this behavior, it should be the exception, not the norm.

179 Did you do a wake n bake?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:36 AM (9TTOe)

I don't know what that means, and this being the HQ I'm wondering if I should ask.

Someone upthread said the hash changed. So did mine, after staying the same since I got wifi. Blame it on Pixy, I guess.

180 Be kind to our web-footed friends,
For a duck may be somebody's mother.

Posted by: Retread at June 14, 2012 08:35 AM (I2fq9)

He gave me a prize of two black eyes
And with me swept the floor.

181 retread they usually live in a swamp where it's very cold and damp

182 Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 14, 2012 08:38 AM (sbV1u)

It might be the other way around.

Only those who have an inflated opinion of their own intellects have the arrogance to believe that their decisions are better than those of the great unwashed.

183
It isn't nice, but it isn't illegal.

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 08:35 AM (YdQQY)

I'm not sure about just holding a camera above your fence, but if you climb a ladder or put the camera on a stick it is illegal. I heard the explanation of the illegality on a TV program several years ago.

Just because the police never arrest the paparazzi for the illegal stuff they do doesn't make it legal.

184 O/t re: Sec'ty. Bryson: http://tinyurl.com/7nto6sp It turns out Bryson was a frequent White House visitor. Another count in the tally on the side 'alien abduction' as the cause of the recent collisions.

185 Guess the number.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 14, 2012 08:33 AM (7+pP9)

 

Unexpected

186 Posted by: tmitsss at June 14, 2012 08:39 AM (V4Pya)


The Dems do not want a repeat of the Alvin Johnson fiasco is the way I saw that, although I don't know if this woman is the equivalent of him.  They are going to try their damnedest to get the ther guy in the race against the Republican because he will have a better chance of winning.

I don't know why the election commission discounted his votes, but he did officially drop out of the race after being hit with DUI.

This new district will go Republican anyway, no matter what they do.

187 This simply is not the right time for a union to bite the employer's tit that feeds it. During a serious recessive/depression, don't demand any more than more of the same. Then again, if members are losing benefits promised and earned, "Houston, there's a problem." Altering from this point on is one thing. Denying funds already earned by contract is another. Do tell.

They're evil.  Well, okay "evil" may be a strong term, but they're bad actors.  On the radio show where I heard about the issue, one of the guys who had gone on strike but finally crossed the picket line because he ran out of savings (at least he didn't go asking for charity) admitted:

a) The workers knew the offer was more than fair.
b) They wanted more anyway.

The union voted 92% in favor of the strike.  That's insane, especially in this climate.

Another lady called up defending her dad (who had been in a union) and said, "Please don't paint them all as evil."  To her I say: They knew the offer was more than fair, and they voted to attempt to stop production (they're building the F-35 there) anyway.  Maybe 'evil' is a strong word, but none of them get to avoid responsibility for that choice.  Even the 8% who voted against it don't get to, unless they crossed the picket line themselves.

188 I think you are a narcissist before you become a liberal.Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:40 AM (9TTOe)

Ah, so it's a self-selecting population.  Makes sense.

189 Weekly Claims for Jobless Benefits Climbs Another 6,000, to 386,000, a Sign Hiring Has Slowed obama: " All is well"

190

HBO apologizes after ‘Game of Thrones’ scene featured severed head resembling former President George W. Bush

 

Considering GRRM is a flaming leftist douchebag, I'm sure he thought it was awesome.    Hey George -- put down the    $5 foot long     and     write the next book, you ass.

191 but if you climb a ladder or put the camera on a stick it is illegal. I heard the explanation of the illegality on a TV program several years ago.Just because the police never arrest the paparazzi for the illegal stuff they do doesn't make it legal.

Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 14, 2012 08:43 AM (7+pP9)

That is because that would involve trespass onto private property.  That is illegal.

192 "Flirting with a recession?"   I don't think we ever got out of the last recession.  I know the MFM and the government said we did but it never seemed so.

193 put down the $5 foot long and write the next book, you ass.

He just published another book- that has nothing to do with Song of Ice and Fire.  My wife was ticked when she saw that.

194 Those union members are exquisitely stupid.

First, as a former LMCO employee, let me just say that management has their heads up their asses.  Waste, abuse, nepotism, ethics violations are rampant.  Regular non-union employees are scared for their jobs up and down the chain in that company mainly due to the incompetence of those above them who have set up their little protectorates for shitty employees, relatives, and friends.  If they don't have their own fiefdom, they know about others, and they turn a blind eye to them, every single time.

Add to that the fact that Obama and Panetta are taking a fire axe to just about every billable program, and looking for any damn excuse to screw LM and every other military contractor out of money that they can then funnel to their consituency.

Enter the union - in this environment, these cock-wipes want more?  And then have the nerve to tap charities and Unemployment during their hissy fit?

I'm damn surprised there hasn't been massive backlash.

195 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 14, 2012 08:42 AM (nEUpB)


Problem is that others (like us Morons) know that the elites have an inflated opinion of their overall abilities, but the elites don't know it and in fact cannot accept it as being a reasonable hypothesis in their universe! 

It thus follows to them that they are indeed uniquely suited to tell the rest of us what to do, say, think, eat, etc.!

196 174 Narcissism is equal opportunity. Flaunting it requires a submissive audience, and a mutual admiration club of fellows.

The degree of abrasive persona relates to upbringing.
Most people know better than to go too far.
Not King George III.
Not Napoleon.
Not Mussolini.
Not Hitler.
Not Paulson.
Not Obama.

197 TOKYO (AP) -- Japan has evidence that a Chinese company exported to North Korea vehicles capable of transporting and launching missiles, in possible violation of U.N. sanctions, Japanese media reported Wednesday. China called the reports inaccurate, and denied violating any U.N. restriction. And China further stated that: " Those launchers are as chinese and those Attack Helicopters in Syria are Russian?" Hey how about them apples hillary and obama?

198 >>Supposedly it has already occurred and this is the reason for the dropping prices in most of the country,

Was? Gas is up 40 cents in Indiana since last Thursday.

199 >>Question. Why did my hash change after the tightening of access to comments, but a certain annoying commenter's never changes?

Hashes change when your ip address changes. Mine had been the same for a couple years til my internet provider did an upgrade of something and my ip address changed.

Pixy takes the ip address and magically converts it to a hash. I think if he did something to change that, everyone's hash would change.

200

What is it about liberalism that breeds narcissism?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 14, 2012 08:38 AM (sbV1u)

 

Progressivism     is all about self-gratification.    "I don't want to deal with smelly poor people, but    it's okay because all they    have to do is raise taxes on the rich and the government can do it    for me.     i'll just vote for the people who will do that, and then my debt to society is paid."    It's about feeling good    without having to do any work.

 

I say "progressivism" because I hate using the term "liberalism" for these bastards.   Liberalism USED TO BE something much, much different than it is today.  The term was coopted and mutilated by the progressives when they realized that people weren't buying into their commie socialist shit and they needed to cover their asses with a term people were more comfortable with.

 

Bastards.

201 And China further stated that: " Those launchers are as chinese and those Attack Helicopters in Syria are Russian?" Hey how about them apples hillary and obama? Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 14, 2012 08:48 AM (05RcU) This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

202 I'm damn surprised there hasn't been massive backlash.

Nobody knows.  The only place that has even talked about it is the Chris Krok radio program on WBAP.  I think he has fewer listeners than I have readers (not really, but you get the point- he's on 8 - 11PM, not exactly prime listening time).  Added to that, the only other people who know are people who read my blog: so, not a whole lot.

I'd love for it to get more exposure and some backlash building, but I have a very small voice (politically speaking) and I can't get any traction with people who have a bigger voice.

203 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 14, 2012 08:46 AM (4df7R)

One of the producers is David Benioff. He is married to Amanda Peete (who used to be smokin' hot) and wrote a book called "City Of Thieves," which is one of the best works of fiction I have read in several years.

He is also the son of a former head of Goldman Sachs, so he is a typical rich kid.

204

WASHINGTON (AP) -- More Americans sought unemployment aid last week, suggesting hiring remains sluggish.

The Labor Department said Thursday that weekly unemployment benefit applications rose 6,000 to a seasonally adjusted 386,000, an increase from an upwardly revised 380,000 the previous week.

The four-week average, a less volatile measure, rose for the third straight week to 382,000. That's the highest in six weeks.

Sluggish is the new shitty

205
That is because that would involve trespass onto private property. That is illegal.

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 08:47 AM (YdQQY)

No, even if you're standing on the sidewalk (public right-of-way) with your camera on a stick it's illegal. It boils down to taking extraordinary measures to violate the expected privacy the fence was meant to provide.

206 He just published another book- that has nothing to do with Song of Ice and Fire. My wife was ticked when she saw that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 14, 2012 08:47 AM (8y9MW)

 

GRRRRR.   And then when someone has the gall to ask, "So, George, how's the next Ice and Fire book coming along?" he    throws a hissy fit.   Now, I admit that I'd do the same if I had people constantly asking me that question.   But I also wouldn't take five or six damn years to write it!

 

*breathing deeply*

 

I am in a really bad mood today and I don't know why.  This does not bode well...

207 I'd love for it to get more exposure and some backlash building, but I have a very small voice (politically speaking) and I can't get any traction with people who have a bigger voice.

Local talk radio, maybe?

I'm generally in favor of anything that causes the dickheads in management at LMCO to get fired.  I know of many in my personal tenure (which was short) that deserved immediate dismissal, if not auditing and possible jail time.

But I hate unions more.

208 He is also the son of a former head of Goldman Sachs, so he is a typical rich kid.
--

That explains why "Kill Them All" is the rule in his books.

209 Local talk radio, maybe?

WBAP si local talk radio in DFW.  Biggest talk radio station in several markets (I think in the State), and even the rest of their station hasn't covered it, that I've seen. 

And I can't call in to the morning show.

Hmm... Maybe I'll shoot Mark Davis an email; not that I think he'll respond, either, but maybe he will.

210

Sluggish is the new shitty

 

And apparently "suggesting" is the new "unexpectedly."

211 Oh, and    before    my bad mood gets     in the way of my better nature,    let me wish everyone a happy Flag Day.     And a very happy birthday to the US Army!   

212 repeat that dumbass line about having to pick up the tab for a steak dinner

Obama basically saw the tab and said, "Oh, look we get to have steak.  Make mine wagyu beef and throw in some lobster, caviar, and a bottle of Cristal."

213 Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2012 08:57 AM (lpWVn)

Producer, not writer of Game of Thrones.

214

Morning Vic - although by this time it's more like mid-afternoon to you.  In regards to # 4, I think I can believe Panetta when he says that no unauthorized information had been released.  Shouldn't the question be, who authorized it to be released in the first place?

215
Stuart Varney sez get ready for the 400,000 number.

216 The Hill: Rand Paul offers bill requiring warrant for drone surveillance. YOU GO BOYEEEEEE!!!!!

217 Deal with the Saudi's is bullshit. Gas prices are dropping because demand is going down, due to the Euro implosion. The gas price conspiracy theories that get tossed out when we have spikes or drops are dumb. Gas prices are just about the perfect capitalist market. Very few distorions other than regulations on production and taxes at point of sale.

218 This morning on NPR:

Racist Republicans are blocking the confirmation of Ambassador Mari Carmen Aponte, because they are racist.  There is something fishy about this story, they missed an opportunity to also accuse the Republicans of being misogynistic but instead NPR avoided revealing Mari's gender or first name.

Aponte was nominated by the SCOAMT to serve as Ambassador to El Salvador.  See her wiki page if you are interested in the true reasons for the filibuster:

http://tinyurl.com/7eyw3f8

219 Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

220 176 Foreboding phrase: "the end of the strike lies with people on the picket line."

WFAA Ft. Worth:

Inside the Lockheed Martin plant on day 46 of machinist strike. (June 7)

"We would really like to have the union workers here," said Joe Stout, a spokesman for Lockheed Martin. "In the mean time, we have to take the necessary steps to meet our business objectives." Members of the International Association of Machinists say no one is more qualified to build the planes than them. They walked off the job in April over proposed changes to healthcare deductibles and pension benefits. "Every contract has been about taking away something," said Bob Wood, a spokesman for the union. "Our membership have decided that now is the time to stop giving back when this company makes more and more money." A Lockheed Martin representative said the company made a fair offer and that the end of the strike lies with people on the picket line.

By Marcus Moore
 

221 Posted by: Ed Anger Issues at June 14, 2012 08:54 AM (7+pP9)


It all boils down to what some black robe determines is a "reasonable expectation of privacy". If you build a 6 foot high wooden fence around your pool to afford privacy for the pool (as I did) and some guy next door builds a ten foot high scaffold for the purpose of seeing over the fence, I suppose a judge could rule that you had a reasonable right to privacy. 


However, by the same token, if that guy had a two story house in which he could see into your pool from the windows then the opposite would be true.


But this whole thing got started based on drones and aircraft looking down on your property.  The courts ruled long ago that there was no reasonable right to privacy from aircraft looking down onto your property.  There is an actual SCOTUS case for that.

222 Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2012 09:07 AM (lpWVn)

All of the reporting (except that on the CK show) has been very, very pro-union.

223 Many economists blame the slowdown in hiring partly on the unusually warm winter. Companies moved up some hiring in January and February that normally would have occurred in spring. As that trend fades, job gains might recover in the coming months.





Oh yes, that must be it. It's global warming climate change that's causing the shitty job market. Who believes this shit? Well besides the half wits who listen to NPR and the MFM

224 From what I understand, the Machinists' Union actually requires competency of its members, weeding out the incompetent, unlike other unions.

Hard times. "Nice work if you can get it And if you get it, won't you tell me how?"

225
In regards to # 4, I think I can believe Panetta when he says that no unauthorized information had been released. Shouldn't the question be, who authorized it to be released in the first place?

Posted by: Dilligas at June 14, 2012 09:04 AM (/Odq7)

Remember during the Clinton years when that scrunt congresswoman gave some Chicom visitors a picture of one of our nuke warheads? Somebody pointed out that it was classified, so she scribbled out the classification and said words to the effect "not anymore".

226 Shouldn't the question be, who authorized it to be released in the first place?

Posted by: Dilligas at June 14, 2012 09:04 AM (/Odq7)

Yeah, did he parse his wording like Bill Clinton?

227 >>they missed an opportunity to also accuse the Republicans of being misogynistic but instead NPR avoided revealing Mari's gender or first name.

I'm not sure her birth certificate says "female."

228 From what I understand, the Machinists' Union actually requires competency of its members, weeding out the incompetent, unlike other unions.

Well, with the exception of the strike (and the requesting of charity and UE benefits) I don't have a problem with IAM.  I don't really have a problem with Unions in general, here in Texas, because they're just not very powerful.  But this goes beyond the pale.

229 225 AllenG

That the MSM is staunchly pro-labor is no surprise.

230 It's going to be fun watching how Barky reacts as it gradually dawns on him that Mitt is going to beat him. Wanna take bets on how deep that "first class temperament" of his is? Could be very entertaining!

231 If Bush can do that much damage three years out office, American should shudder at the thought of what will happen when D'ohbama is three years out of office.

232 Re Thomas Sowell but he says that proggs believe that they can know how to construct a perfect society. They believe that they can essentially ignore history and 8000 years of human experience and, by applying their solutions, they can create a society where everyone will thrive. They make themselves God.

When you've made yourself God then you're rightfully (in your mind) narcissistic.

That's one reason that I have trouble with conservative atheists. I know that it's a struggle to believe in God. I have trouble with it myself, however, I know for sure that man isn't in charge, so to speak. The vastness is too vast.

233 Grognard, DoD should not have allowed so much aerospace consolidation. I know the mid sized guys could not get capital when locked into DoD profit caps, but they created some bloated bigs. They need to look at having teirs of rules for overhead pools, the same DCAA regs for small business should not apply to LMCO.

234 The big problem with gas prices will come when the economy takes off again and there is no new sources of oil. 5 or 6 dollar a gallon gas and diesel fuel would certainly slow if not crush a recovery.

235 I disagree, If you build a wooden fence around your swimming pool and some perv holds a comera above it and starts taking pics of your children, is that legal? Maybe, i'm not sure. But it's wrong.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:33 AM (9TTOe)

 

----------------

 

Well, this is anther of those things that, in a sane world, we wouldn't even talk about.  There was a time when if some perv were doing that, you'd go next door and give him a bloody nose.  And NOBODY would question your right to do it, legal or not.  Thus, it was a non-issue.

 

 

Now we live in looney-land - where the assholery of every socially maladjusted douchebag is held sacrosanct, and the expectation of the douchbags' neighbors to live a normal life in peace is considered an unreasonable burden on society.  Now if you give the camera perv a black eye, you are suddenly the bad guy. 

 

 

Anyway, regarding the spies in the skies, I'm not really that worried about it.  I'm willing to tolerate that, given the need to keep an eye on the damn muz, some of whom really are stupid enough to get caught doing bad things out in the yard.  Maybe this administration of criminals is not going to use the drones for such a noble purpose, but I don't want to make it impossible for the next administration to use this tool.

 

236 of the strike (and the requesting of charity and UE benefits)

...go figure. Rationalization: not all the machinists at LM are union, so the union "shares" responsibility to financially support members during strike with members' churches and fraternal charities.

"Blessings" are not received but given, according to the Jewish tradition; the responsibility resting within the community to bless itself.

237

Anyone else have Woodrow Wilson's voice EXACTLY like that in your head?

 

America's school marm.

238

Unexpected. Right....

 

Weekly Jobless Claims Unexpectedly Rise

239

The reason people still blame Bush is the relentless messaging from Obama, his administration, the DNC, the media, and Hollywood...BIRM.  They hammer it non-stop.

 

Yet according to their own standards and announcements, this recession was over in 2009 and America Was Back Baby!  Recovery Summer!  If I Don't Get This Done In Three Years...

 

This is probably the only messaging of theirs that has been remotely effective.  We need to throw it back in their faces as much as they've thrown it in ours.

240 not all the machinists at LM are union, so the union "shares" responsibility to financially support members during strike with members' churches and fraternal charities.

That doesn't even make sense.  Because some people aren't in the union (btw- those people aren't striking, they're still at work) the union members are morally justified (even just in their own eyes) in expecting others to take care of them?  What?

241 No that we have beat "privacy" into a non-living equine, what do the Morons think of item number 6?

242 Hey, Drudge, get that old bat Madonna pic off the page, huh?

243

Mornin' Morons.

 

@223 My biggest Pet Peeve: no one ever hears the word "machinist" without the word "strike."

 

Wonderful. Just fucking wonderful.

244 The big problem with gas prices will come when the economy takes off again and there is no new sources of oil. 5 or 6 dollar a gallon gas and diesel fuel would certainly slow if not crush a recovery.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 09:15 AM (9TTOe)

 

 

 

 

Well said.  But my theory is that economy won't take off at all UNTIL there is cheaper energy.  That is why, in my view, Mitt's number 1 priority should be to fix the energy problem.  Drill, frak, build refineries and nuke plants - everything.  Put people back to work doing something actually useful and productive, and cut the energy costs which then puts even MORE people back to work. 

 

 

And, by the way, doing that is WAY more important than figuring out how to cut the deficit.  Get people back to work, and the deficit will cut itself.

245 I was in the IAM once upon a time. The leadership is intrested in one thing, dues. They will get them back to work soon and they will do it in a way that makes the membership think they have won something. They are dirtbags.

246 Cool: there's a site called longURL dot org that lets you put in a shortened url and see where it leads.

Useful.

247 what do the Morons think of item number 6?

I still don't think they'll actually try to hold hi in contempt.  As I pointed out originally, Issa can cancel the committee vote right up until it's taken- so until it's taken and the motion moved out to the Floor, it's just so much hot air.

248 Cutting the deficit is easy.  Quit spending so damn much.  making the Commies and RINOs in congress agree to quit spending is the hard part.

249 So, what did she do for Cubans that was bad enough for Billy Jeff, but ok fot Obama

250 so until it's taken and the motion moved out to the Floor, it's just so much hot air.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at June 14, 2012 09:22 AM (8y9MW)

That's what I though as well.  And it looks like they are going to drop it again for another "promise".  Promises from crooks and Democrats are worth no more than a handful of magic beans.

251 Thomas Sowell but he says that proggs believe that they can know how to construct a perfect society. They believe that they can essentially ignore history and 8000 years of human experience and, by applying their solutions, they can create a society where everyone will thrive.Posted by: dagny at June 14, 2012 09:13 AM (WCAIB)

That was Hayek's "fatal conceit."

252

That's what I though as well. And it looks like they are going to drop it again for another "promise". Promises from crooks and Democrats are worth no more than a handful of magic beans.

 

Less.   At least you can EAT the beans.

253
245 No that we have beat "privacy" into a non-living equine, what do the Morons think of item number 6?

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 09:20 AM (YdQQY)

Kabuki theater.

254 164
Interesting point. If 'journalists' or private citizens can do 'it' does that imply that agents of the government can do it?

Regarding drones, aerial surveillance has been preformed for many years now. Even looking for unusual heat sources within private homes.

255

Another day, another capitulation by Boehner and Co.

Fuckers.

256 Now we live in looney-land - where the assholery of every socially maladjusted douchebag is held sacrosanct

Well we're all endowed with assholes by Our Creator.

257 The reason most Americans still blam Bush is the fact we have reached a tipping point , just like the economic one we are approching with BHO. This is the Educational tipping point where the Marching Illiterate have surpassed the educated Minority in the populace. When a commencement speach is given at a High School graduation in Spanish as a hat tip to minorities under a PC insanity virus, we are doomed as a society and as a culture. While we are exspected to embrace the sub=culture as a replacement for the old American Way of doing things, Fix Bayonrts it will be a long 20 plus years of reformist revolution

258 what do the Morons think of item number 6?




I am not a number. I am a free man!

259 Well we're all endowed with assholes by Our Creator.Posted by: DaveA at June 14, 2012 09:27 AM (NqmTy)

So I guess it logically follows that we're all entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of quilted, triple-ply toilet paper.

260 I worked at "the bomber plant" back when it was General Dynamics.  The machinists went on strike then too over having to contribute $8 per two week paycheck towards their health benefits.  That was a fraction of what us non-union types were already paying.

The unions don't much like it when the real world intersects with their fantasy fiefdom.  I have no sympathy for the IAM.

261 I don't believe this poll for one second. I do hop that Obama does believe it however, running with that myth will be his end.

262 @6 I guess your gonna stay pissed off ?

263 I'm not really that worried about it. I'm willing to tolerate that, given the need to keep an eye on the damnmuz,
--

As if those are whom the DHS/Law Enforcement/Judicial Branch will arrest and prosecute. Dream on. TSA does such a fine job or screwing everyone.

Best course of action is never authoritarianism or trusting Uncle Big Brother.

Current state of affairs? It takes a sucker to believe "official" propaganda or displace faith today from our Constitution to politicians. At this point, regardless of government/political promises as to what will be done with X tax or X law (or X war), the end result is complete perversion effected against the citizen.

...speaking of radio shows, Jerry Doyle.
http://tinyurl.com/4lwrb

264 I have no sympathy for the IAM.
--

Hire immigrants! It's the American Way.
Ask Orrin Hatch.

265 #6, I think that to declare war on the Attorney General would be the proper move for Congress. However, each one of those Congress people have their own secret bag of shit they don't want dumped in public. I think they have the MAD (mutually assured destruction) thing working. Unfortunatly, Holder is safe.

266

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 07:00 AM (YdQQY)

 

I wish I didn't think Obama would find sending a crazy/exceptionally stupid person to a country unsure if it *dares* be our ally to be a feature.

 

WooHoo to the PA town for shedding a light on what their teachers *actually* get.  If residents start finding out how much more than the average teachers are making( yet still complaining), I'm guessing that holy awe will be gone pretty quick.  I don't think it really even counts as populism since the people making less are directly forced to pay those making more.

267 256 Less. At least you can EAT the beans.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter

Or at least imagine yourself eating the virtual beans.

268 "U.S. Soccer Team Snubs Troops, Apologizes"  http://tinyurl.com/6v3g48a

269 Or at least imagine yourself eating the virtual beans. Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2012 09:35 AM (lpWVn) Would they give you virtual farts?

270

Not too worried about that Gallup poll:  If it's the one I saw a day or two ago, the breakdown was something like Blame Bush = 76%, Blame Obama = 66%.  While there's holdover resentment against Pres. G.W.Bush, it looks like about two-thirds of the electorate is tired of the SCOAMF's excuses, also.

 

An interesting little tidbit I saw this morning on Fox and Friends was a poll of "Independents" concerning Obama vs. Romney:

Obama -->  Unfavorable = ~54%        Favorable = ~38%

Romney --> Unfavorable = ~47%        Favorable = ~36%

 

Those are not good numbers for the SCOAMF.

271 do not worry populace, According to Foxy news Marco Rubio will solve all Mittens problems because he will garner the Hispanic vote for our White Majority populace , we need Rubio ..you can see the message already,,now how do you like your High s Scool Commmencement speach Mild .Hot or Xtra Spicey, Natyrally Marco Rubio is the answer..you see it coming llike a boat from a far .. you are expexted to swallow Mittens with a side of Rubio to make it more palatable or tolerant..

272 Would they give you virtual farts? Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 09:36 AM

the magical fruit...

273 I hope the thread isn't too dead 'cause I'm coming to the Horde for advice again. Yahoo! has been my home-page for as long as I've been on the internet, and at one time their headlines were may main source of news. In the last couple of years their leftyness has become egregious and I'm looking for a new home-page.  Any suggestions?  I know someone mentioned that the HQ was theirs, and I'm considering it, but I was thinking of a more general site.

274 Polliwog - How about Drudge?

275 I hope the thread isn't too dead

You're a poet, and you don't know it!

276 Trump says Obama cut a deal with the Saudis to keep oil prices down until after the election We forgo income until next year to get you re-elected, whereafter you crash the European and American economies... Hey, when do we get to raise prices again?

277
Increases in foreclosures are on their way.

The planned gutting of our military will cost about one million jobs by election day.

Recovery Summer III, baby!!!

278 In other news, 19% of Americans believe Elvis is still alive.  I plan on being remarried by him in Vegas for a 25th Anniversary hootenanny.  I'll even drag him to the buffet afterward.

279

Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY)

 

While I don't know how reliable Trump is, on Twitter I asked @Kevin in ABQ, a commenter here who's answered business questions before, about how the prices were down with no obvious change in supply or demand. He said the Europe's demand has fallen off sharply, as in by app 400,000 barrels a week, and he seemed satisfied that the drop was enough for the difference we're seeing at the pump.

280 Drudge headline is funny.  But, thought drones were little and nibble, that's huge.   http://tinyurl.com/7vcv7ac

281

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 14, 2012 09:39 AM (4df7R)

 

Is it good? I must be about the only one here who's never gone there.  From what I've heard of his main page picture choices I'm a little nervous.  Or are the "Oh God, my eyes! Brain bleach!" front pages just the ones I hear about?

282 I am not surprised by the Bush poll. It became expected to dump on Bush. Furthermore GW has kept such a low profile since 2008, I am shocked most of the electorate even remember his name or that he was President.

283 "good morning catpiss troll! how are you today? i saw that liberals hate mormons and i thought of you! have a glorious (gloryhole) day!

Posted by: phoenixgirl clinging to my bible, gun and coca cola at June 14, 2012 09:47 AM (Ho2rs)"

Wonder if you are raising intolerant bigoted folks like yourself?

284 Jeez. "Drone causes UFO panic on DC Beltway". You guys understand that one drop of rain will also cause a panic on DC Beltway? If it flurries, they abandon their cars. So, like any other day.

285

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 14, 2012 09:40 AM (GnKed)

 

Oh bother. Completely missed that.  What's worse is that dyslexia seems to be invading my typing, which used to always be safe from that.  My typing skills are improving, but ocassionally my fingers get a mind of their own and start hitting keys on the opposiite side from what I want.

286 59 So.... alien?

-------

Hmm. Perhaps the aliens that have been taking cow rectums are now leaving lungs in payment?

287

Posted by: dagny at June 14, 2012 09:53 AM (WCAIB)

 

And yet these are our "best and brightest"?

288 Posted by: dagny at June 14, 2012 09:53 AM (WCAIB)

Try Northern California when it snows. They make DC look like professional drivers.

289 We used to laugh when we read about the special travel lanes for Party officials in Moscow.  Now the beltway is being outfitted with special lanes for the wealthy and I'm sure the Black Suburban crowd will be regular users, too.

290 BTW.
You are "raised" in a place
A parent "rears" a child

So Obama was raised in Indonesia and reared by a tranny nanny. So Phoenix isn't raising children to hate trolls, she is rearing them. Obama was probably reared by his tranny nanny as well but in another sense.

291 You guys understand that one drop of rain will also cause a panic on DC Beltway? If it flurries, they abandon their cars. So, like any other day. --- One day we had sleet. The rapes and cannibalism were horrific.

292 Maybe the aliens who are leaving lungs about are also buzzing the DC beltway? This drone story the government is putting out is just cover for the impeding alien invasion.

293 My husband escaped Carmaggeddon winter before last because I convinced him to move base from DC to the Navy Annex. Then at about 2:30 a woman who had just left calls back in yelling into the phone, "It's NOT RAIN, REPEAT, IT'S NOT RAIN. Abandon ship! GET OUT NOW". He bailed immediately and got home. If he hadn't those 4 miles would have taken 4 hours. I still laugh about "it's not rain, abandon ship".

294

Polliwog - Drudge is excellent for news, and a great site for any conservative to have bookmarked.  Generally the "OMG MY EYES!" posts are about some of the truly godawful pictures he uses of various celebs -- Hillary Clinton   with her hair back in a painfully-tight bun; Helen Thomas looking like a prune that's been    sucking on a lemon;    Barack Obama, etc.    There is also the occasional slightly risque picture -- for instance, today he's got a picture on there of Madonna parading around on stage in Rome with her ass hanging out of her pants and flashing a thong -- so it might not be the best homepage if you want generic newsiness.

 

Personally,    I have Bing as my homepage.  

295 "This means that in the past two weeks alone 240,000 people no longer collect the last possible form government unemployment benefits, the most in a two week period since December 2010!."
http://tinyurl.com/73kehls

296 When this alien invasion occurs will they eat Barky's brain first, of course it is only as big as a sunflower seed.

297 1. Gross Madonna
2. When you have big veins on your arms showing no one wants to see your ass
3. Are those back tatoos?
4. Seriously?

298

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at June 14, 2012 09:37 AM (CQ1cz)

 

I use startpage.com.  It loads quickly so I just open a new tab when I want to search something.  I like to believe it protects me from some tracking by search engines.

299

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at June 14, 2012 10:05 AM (4df7R)

 

that's one I've been considering. At least they seem to celebrate American holidays. I rarely Bing things since when they first came out I always got re-directed to Yahoo! or Google anyway. Has that improved?

300

Posted by: Nash Rambler at June 14, 2012 10:10 AM (vXucy)

 

Thanks for the info, I'll certainly look into that one.

301

dagny:   I know, right?   Madonna honey, I get it.  You're proud to be an aging whore.  Fine.    Give it a rest now?

 

I don't know if the back tattoos are permanent or just temporary.  I think they say "No Fear?"

302 My father was the President of the local IAM when he worked for Boeing in Louisiana. He was a conservative retired Marine. I just remember him complaining that he had clowns to the left of him( management)and jokers (members) on the right. That's where I got my philosophy of negotiate when you can and compromise when you have to.

303 If I read it right, this poll is of adults. I wonder what the numbers would look like if they polled "likely voters"? That's the more important data point, IMHO.

304 How about this fresh unmitigated bullshit from AP on comparing apples, oranges, and the Travon Martin case.


http://is.gd/TjuVdj

305 143 Drones are clearly military. Isn't this a violation of Posse Comatatus?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet at June 14, 2012 08:07 AM (9TTOe)


Drones are DHS.

Sheriff Offices and Police Departments can purchase Drones.

And these surveillance of civilian private property drones have been armed, I read this past month or so of the upheaval in one of Texas' counties. Sorry, don't remember which. I was just glad it wasn't mine. But then, my county unfortunately re-elected a sheriff who would do it secretly.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2012 08:26 AM (lpWVn)

Is there a law that prohibits downing one?  If you check out youtube, people are attaching cameras to RC planes and flying them, and using FPV goggles, pretty much transforming their plane to a recon plane

306 mornin, peepolinees

307 9 Rand Paul floats a bill requiring warrant to use drones to spy on Americans. Personally I am ambivalent about this one. --- Yep, I have the same reaction. I realize some see Rand as the Great Right Hope, but I suspect he is only slightly better than his dad, philosophically speaking. He may be a more *effective* legislator, but that wouldn't be hard given Ron Paul's weak record. Speaking of priorities, here's another bill Rand co-sponsored: http://tinyurl.com/84cxd72 Supposedly not getting around marijuana laws, but it sure generated a lot of "buzz" (heh) in the pothead community.

308 10 Wired Magazine speculates that Obama is going to legalize marijuana as an October surprise to get young voters out. ---- Terrific! The great thing is it won't cost a red cent for drug companies to re-test their products to see if there are contraindications to take their drug when someone has marijuana in their system. /sarc

309 Morons I want you to know how dedicated I am. I got up at 02:30 this morning so I could put this together and still go down to the store for groceries. But it did give me time after I got back to eat my shit on a shingle breakfast --- Thank you, Vic! Shit on a shingle is one of my favorite breakfasts (and comfort foods). I guess I'd feel differently if I had served in the army!

310 I don't think industrial hemp is the same thing as marijuana.  When I was a kid we used to buy hemp rope to makes swings and other stuff.  It was much better than the cheap sisal rope that would aggravate your hands but it was much cheaper than the cotton rope.   There was no great fear of people smoking the rope although marijuana was already making inroads among musicians.

I would like to see the return of hemp rope and it appears that the farmers in KY think they can make money with it.

311 Shit on a shingle is one of my favorite breakfasts (and comfort foods). I guess I'd feel differently if I had served in the army!

Posted by: Y-not at June 14, 2012 10:56 AM (5H6zj)

LOL, we had it i the Navy at every chow hall/mess deck I ever ate at and I still love it.

312 >>315 I don't think industrial hemp is the same thing as marijuana. ---- I realize that it's different, but I find it exceedingly curious that the folks who are so excited about this bill are the same folks who want marijuana legalized. That suggests to me that there is enough of a relatedness between the two plants that they think they'll be able to exploit a loophole in the bill and/or hide their marijuana plants in plain sight in hemp fields. Also, this: en.wikinews.org/wiki/US_Senator_Rand_Paul_blocks_synthetic_marijuana_legislation

313 Vic I love your updates. Thanks for making my mornings. I feel weirdly optimistic today I'll bet the JEF's internal polls show things a far, far worse the the released polls show. Can't count on every week being like the last two, but I like that Mitts got some balls. We will vote JEF out, possible pick up some seats too, and things will get better. Ed Anger I like what you posted about PA teacher unions feeling some push back. They see what Christie did in NJ to the NJEA. I think the people who pay taxes in PA may be waking up.

314 Hemp and marijuana are different varieties of the same species of plant. Both have THC, but a second compound that is present in higher concentrations in hemp, blocks the THC effects. So that tells me you can get THC from hemp. It also tells me that it will be problematic to regulate growing marijuana if hemp (same species) is allowed. So more regulation in the form of testing specific plants for THC/CBD ratios. host.madison.com/article_fb7c0968-3122-11df-a8de-001cc4c03286.html

315 It is no secret that the libtards are using the EPA to destroy the energy industry. Look for them to try to do the same in the Dakotas. They suck.

316 @320 I wish Romney would come out more strongly about the EPA. Actually, I think Rick Perry should be strongly considered for Dept of Energy. Texas is in great shape, it's time for him to move on from the governorship, and I think he'd do a great job. Better than Palin, frankly.

317 Speaking of junior senators working on questionable legislation, whatever became of Rubio's DREAM Act thing?

318 Looking through Craigslist for Jobs and this was posted:

We have reinvented physics, magnetism, gravity, and many other field of science that have been wrong for the past 500+ years and now need to re-educate our professors, MIT grads, and the rest of the world on how it really all works from the atom to the univers and galaxy. You can assist us from home at your liesure, we do meet 2-3 times a month on the weekends, , , your age is irrelivant or your intelligence, we do however request that you be passionate about science should you come on board. No resume is needed or experience. Please see our website and youtube. www.2012engineers.com , http://www.youtube.com/user/2012ENGINEERS?feature=mhee

Mike Albert

Smart people need not apply.

319 Is there a law that prohibits downing one? If you check out youtube, people are attaching cameras to RC planes and flying them, and using FPV goggles, pretty much transforming their plane to a recon plane

Posted by: Red Shirt at June 14, 2012 10:37 AM (FIDMq)

 

 

 

How would it be any different from shooting at any other aircraft flying over your land?  At the very least it's property destruction.  I doubt we could make a legal arguement that we own the air space over our land.

320 Y not I love your idea for Perry for Energy Sec. Maybe we can get rid of the EPA altogether (one can dream).

321 Maybe Obama's going to WTC to stop at the prayer room nearby. I was there last weekend. The prayer room is still there, and is actually kitty-corner from the WTC site. ***spit***

322 Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 10:58 AM (YdQQY)

The new synthetics are much, much better than hemp or cotton. They can be woven with a core for less stretch, and they are impervious to rot if stowed wet. In fact, some sailboats are rigged with synthetic stays instead of stainless steel cable or rods because the newest stuff is so strong and light (and amazingly expensive!).

323 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

324

The materials, created by a state board that sets standards for all law enforcement, include a DVD designed to help police understand the circumstances that would let them question someone about immigration status.

That power has been the most controversial part of the law, SB 1070, which Mrs. Brewer signed in 2010 but was largely halted by lower federal courts as an infringement on federal powers.

In an interesting development, the city of Los Angles has been notified by the feds that the feds will no longer reimburse the city for jailing prisoners on immigration charges. This now requires the city to ask the immigration status of all incoming prisoners.

It's almost like LA now has a SB1070 of it's own.

325 324 I doubt we could make a legal arguement that we own the air space over our land.   ---------   Even after that fellow sued his neighbor a few years ago over a tree that was casting a shadow on his solar panel?  

326 19 Thomas Sowell writes one of those rare columns that I disagree with ... Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2012 07:05 AM (YdQQY) Communism, Socialism, Fascism, and Environmentalism are just different brands for the same product, Statism. The only difference for me is the rhetorical facades used to dupe the useful idiots into advocating the surrender of our liberty for the promise of security (not actual security). One datum is a point (mid terms). Two is a line (Wisconsin). Three would be a trend (November). I am optimistic that come January, the SCOAMF will be back in Chicago and running for Secretary-General and both houses of Congress will have a majority dominated by the Tea Party so that we can begin turning the country back in the direction of freedom and self-reliance through limited government.

327 If union workers choose to strike then maybe companies and municipalities should pull a raegan.

328 George W Bush still responsible? yeah but I think some of the blame for the bad economy also belongs to that republican bastard A. Lincoln... Do you have any idea how much money he blew on his incompetent handling of the civil war? I can say with 100% confidence that I am the only person that is not responsible for the bad economy and if you reelect me I'll still be trying to sell that bull shit 4 years from now.

329 Looks like the thread died but if anyone is still lookin ... Posted by: Red Shirt at June 14, 2012 10:37 AM (FIDMq) Posted by: Reactionary at June 14, 2012 11:19 AM (xUM1Q) Krauthammer & Muir on shooting down drones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWzVXcF9qIc http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2012/06/09

330 Haven't there been instances in real estate in cities where churches have sold the rights to the air space above them to buildings?  

Some small buildings with landmark status, meaning they couldn't be torn down, are now neighbors to larger building that have gone up and at a certain point built over the air space of the landmark building.  As you come out of the Queens midtown tunnel and look to your left when making a right on third avenue to go uptown you see just such an instance.

It's real estate law.

331 Yesterday the cast from Sister Wives was here in Carthage to do a shoot at the old jail where Mormon Leader Joseph Smith was murdered by a local mob over a century and a half ago. For those not in the know (me being one until yesterday), Sister Wives is a reality series on TLC about a man and his four "wives" who openly flaunt polygamy laws. I will bet money that (a) the Mormons were not happy about the publicity stunt, and (b) the film clips find their way into a SCOAMF (or surrogate) political ad between now and November. I have lived in Carthage and Nauvoo - both important places to the Mormons - for over three decades. While not a believer in their faith, in the main they are decent people. Buckle up for the ride through the muck though.

332

“I am a Soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight”. General George S. Patton Jr.

 

The SoldierÂ’s Creed
I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior an a member of a team.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier.

 

For those of you who are able, hoist a few in memory of our fallen comrades and those yet to return from Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, or wherever they are deployed.

 

Two hundred and thirty-seven years ago, the United States Army was established to fight and win our nationÂ’s wars.
Since 1775, Still the best!

HOOAH!
SFC MAC

333

Repost, because Ace's format SUCKS.

The SoldierÂ’s Creed

I am an American Soldier.

I am a Warrior an a member of a team.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.

I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.

I am an expert and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.

For those of you who are able, hoist a few in memory of our fallen comrades and those yet to return from Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, or wherever they are deployed.

Two hundred and thirty-seven years ago, the United States Army was established to fight and win our nationÂ’s wars.

Since 1775, Still the best!

 

HOOAH!

SFC MAC

334 “I am a Soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight”. General George S. Patton Jr.

HAPPY 237th Birthday, US ARMY.

335 Had NBC on for the reset speech and andrea mitchell just interviewed a nun who is a part of the "nuns on a bus tour"....

They are really in your face with the Pope and the Church Hierarchy....be interesting to see how much they can get away with before the Pope and crew remind them who is the boss.

Were there people protesting this weekend in DC?  Friend said that these are like 20 nuns and nbc giving them wall to wall coverage yet there was some kind of huge protest and nothing.   Is this true?

336 "According to a new Gallup poll, more Americans blame Bush for the current state of the economy than blame Obama."

Yawn.

Fuck Gallup, and fuck those "Americans" that still blame Bush.

337 I was Career Army and I'm almost 20 years retired from it.  I'm quite proud to have been a soldier.
With each anniversary celebration I'm reminded, though, of what some wag told me when I was still on my first hitch:  The US Army... A hunnert and ninety five years of tradition, unhampered by progress.

God bless the Army and the soldiers therein.

338 Where to go get your shinebox-

http://tinyurl.com/73ql993