Has the shooter's race been mentioned yet?

Yes, I am that cynical.

Ramadan started last night.  Just sayin. 

Probably a nutter.  A very organized and methodical nutter.  Gunman only 24 but did a lot of planning for this; multiple weapons, body armor, incendiary device to obscure exits.  Young nutter with extra cash for guns, ammo, practice range time, and bombs.  Probably played alot of "Call of Duty" type games. 

Just sickening. 

Posted by: rabidfox at July 20, 2012 07:13 AM (SuGxb)

Don't worry, mangina Matt Lauer has a *concerned* look on his face while adding nothing to the conversation on a *special edition* of the Today Show.

I'm not much in the mood for Hollywood stories today (and besides, nothing interesting happened on this date), but here are a couple of quick ones about the Warner Brothers' screenwriter Arthur Caesar:

He was famous for his parties.  One, which was for the wives of his best friends, took place in the living room of a famous downtown LA brothel (those of you who remember some of my earlier posts will not be surprised to know it was the MGM-run brothel known as "Mae's.").  As the lady-friends looked around in horror, Caesar smiled, "If we sit and wait here for a bit, I'm sure most of your husbands will soon join us."

Caesar also loved to travel.  On his first visit to London, he decided to visit George Bernard Shaw.  He knocked at Shaw's door, and when the great author appeared, Caesar introduced himself as a fellow writer from America who had come to pay a call.  Could he come in and have a friendly chat?  Shaw gave Caesar a long look before saying, "Go walk around the square a bit until I get used to your face."

Hope all you 'rons and 'ronettes have a wonderful day.

He shot about 30 minutes into the movie during the first shoot out scene so people thought it was part of the movie.

"Diana Rigg (married 007)"

Greatest. Bond. Evah. EVAH.

"Natalie Wood (great eyes)"

Coroner: Oops, Cause of Death now downgraded to "Unknown".

"Sandra Oh (if one were to genetically merge her with Meggie Mac, you might have something...)"

Sideways - greatest American movie of the last 10, 15, 20 years?!? Maybe the last quarter-century?

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2012 07:34 AM (Dnbau)

I am sure there is a sign at the entrance that says no concealed weapons allowed inside.

It's honestly time to loosen up the restrictions on carry permits.

How many of these despicable cowards would think twice about this kind of shit if they knew there was a high probability someone would be shooting back and honestly folks would  not just be sitting ducks.

"Yes, he's white."

I knew immediately from the reports of the attack that it couldn't have been a gang-banger.

Tear gas? Explosives? Body Armor? Timed it to coincide with a shoot-em-up scene in the film?

That took planning.

Has to have been a Muslim, a white kook, or maybe an Asian kook [like VaTech].

On the other hand, I immediately knew that it was a, ah, audience of people who would look like Obama's sons [if he had had any] because of the reports of 9-year-old girls and 6-year-old-girls at a midnight showing of an R-rated movie.

Comment on the youtube video linked from Drudge says the shooter was a member of 9gag - whatever the hell that is

9gag.com

"Go to Hell, Z2i+W."

???

Do your peeps take their 9-year-old and 6-year-old daughters to any R-rated movies?

Or to midnight showings of any movies at all?

Much less, God forbid, to midnight showings of R-rated movies?

That narrows down the potential demographic quite a bit, dude.

More Americans will buy guns after this, to defend themselves, and so the dangerous spiral descends. When/how does it stop? #Colorado

"Nobody's interested in profiling victims, (Z2i+W)"

ARE YOU INSANE?!?!?!?!?

If it was a white shooter and black victims [to include 9-year-old and 6-year-old girls who look just like - wait for it - drum roll please - Sasha and Malia] then you can forget about Trayvon and George Zimmerman - it'll be "BANE THE RACIST MURDERER" on every MFM outlet, 24x7, from now until Tuesday, November 6th, 2012.

Jesus Christ, you SWPL losers at AoSHQ have your heads so far up your posteriors that you've just completely lost any ability to analyze events with even a modicum of common sense or pragmatism.

God. Help. Us. All.

Here's a sweet one for ya:

Judge Suspends 9/11 Hearings to Allow KSM to Observe Ramadan

http://tinyurl.com/86onvs9

Posted by: AmishDude at July 20, 2012 07:56 AM (T0NGe)

Crazies always find a weapon . 9/11 ,Oklahoma bombing, not a single gun was used.

So no , people having guns to defend themselves will not create a dangerous spiral.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 20, 2012 07:58 AM (9TTOe)

Now it's always a propaganda war over the narrative. Silence has become surrender.

"Open carry inside theaters would help."

For the $750 to $1250 it would take to purchase a quality revolver or pistol, you could get a really nice home theater setup, and just wait until the damned movie comes out on DVD [or BlueRay or whatever].

Which, increasingly, is precisely what anyone with EVEN A MODICUM OF COMMON SENSE is doing.

I don't know anyone who goes to the movies anymore.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 20, 2012 08:03 AM (T0NGe)

Or the bombings of their mass transport systems.

"Shooter's car is absolutely tiny. Like smart car tiny. Mini coop tiny."

Well now that would be a good sign - it would tend to point towards ecopaganism or OWS activism or involvement in academia or some similar devotion to overt nihilism.

A good old boy wouldn't been seen dead in anything other than a pickup truck.

Posted by: Daybrother at July 20, 2012 08:11 AM (qbLVn)

I think theres a lot of shooting in London , even though only criminals have guns.

"You don't have to buy a new gun every few years."

True.

Although ammo doesn't last forever.

Come to think of it, I have some old ammo that is getting on towards the 10-year mark, and maybe needs to be cycled out for something new.

reported car does have tennessee plates

"And now you know why Internet Cafe Old Guy kept shooting and pursuing his assailants."

ICOG ought to get the effing Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Dude's balls are so large that they dangle in the water when he makes a #2.

"Shooter's car is absolutely tiny. Like smart car tiny. Mini coop tiny."

"reported car does have tennessee plates"

Al Gore's loser son, doing a 110mph in the Toyota Eco-Phag car on the LA freeways, was from Tennessee.

Well, at least Tennessee by way of Sidwell Friends.

Scandi shooter went to camp for young scandi socialists and shot it all up.  I think the scandi's permit hunting rifles, not sure.

"I don't know anyone who goes to the movies anymore."

I am a huge movie nut.  I almost never go to the movies anymore.  Why?  Because the last time I went to the movies (MI4) it cost me almost $40 for a classy dinner of Wendy's before the show, the movie ticket which was a regular show not an IMAX or 3D show, a small bag of popcorn and a small drink.  All I could think was that for that money I could have gotten at least two blurays or ordered five or six movies on ppv and I could have sat at home getting drunk.  I also thought that if I were a kid out on a date and I dropped around $80 for Wendy's and a movie, hell yes you better put out. 

There is a $3 movie theatre very close to me that shows first run films.  The screens are small and it's not stadium seating but it's clean and whoever is running the projectors actually runs them at the appropriate light setting.  Needless to say, that place is always packed. 

@piersmorgan: we must find and understand the root cause

I'm going with either batshit insane or utter sociopath myself.

Posted by: Pierced Morgans at July 20, 2012 08:23 AM (7+pP9)

He's talking islamimism?

Posted by: Zombie Shane at July 20, 2012 08:07 AM (Z2i+W)

Big screen is a superior experience to home theater, and the odds of being gunned down in a theater are probably still way less than being struck by lightning.  I'll take my chances.  Anyway, shunning public events/outings because we might get shot is absurd.  We should all just arm up.  An armed society is a polite society.

That said, I can somewhat sympathize.  There have been some times when I've gone to the movies and the unwashed, mannerless underclass scum have showed up.  They play with their phones, talk, and generally make asses of themselves throughout, until the manager is summoned to expell them.  Those people ruin the experience, so if you live in an urban area that is rife with such trash, going to the movies is probably no fun.

I never go to movies because my kids don't like to go. Seven year old has never been.

My daughter wants to go see something tomorrow. Not sure I'm going to be up for that.

Prayers offered for all the victims.

The Colorado shooting is a senseless tragedy.  One of the sickest aspects of it is that the first place most people's minds have gone -- and I count myself among them -- is, "How is this going to be politicized?"   For that I blame the media, 100%.  If Jared Loughner could be acting on the subliminal messages of Sarah Palin's vulnerable Democratic districts map, despite never having seen it, then anything's possible   when the MFM is involved.

The one to blame    for this tragedy      is the shooter.   He should be punished to the maximum extent of the law, and his victims should be mourned while the survivors should be supported.

But     the ones to blame for the inevitable fallout are the media.   And they get no pass from me.

We will know soon enough what this freaks claimed rationale was.  We will know if he claims to be a prog by how quickly the media says we shouldn't rush to judgement about motives and that the guy was clearly mentally ill.

If he claims to be a rightie, the media will blame the availability of firearms, the horrible tone in politics, and the tea party.  Oh, and racciiiststtt.

8and just how djd the shooter get to the cinema?

On roads and bridges built by other people, that's how.

Even though this is such a horrible incident, I have to say . . . thread winner. 

You can sympathize?

You are a sociopath.<<<<

I think he was saying he sympathized with those who don't go to the theater anymore, not those who murder their neighbors for talking during a movie.

Yeah, from the initial reports, it does seem to point to someone organized which points towards sociopath.  I will admit that my utterly evil thought is what if this was a murder attempt at a specific person that is trying to be covered in a spree.  Hey, I have as much support for that as any other theory at the moment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 20, 2012 08:36 AM (nEUpB)

LOL.

The SCOAMF is coming to see us today.  He ought to be full of nauseating political ops with this latest atrocity.

It'll be interesting to see which state and local politicians will show up for their photo ops with him.  Especially remembering the Crist bromance hug here 3 1/2 years ago, and with this being such a conservtive area of the Sunshine State . . .

Blond bimbette on FNC is asking clergy "what is our society coming to?"<<<<

You can safely ignore the utterings of anyone with a haircut that shitty.

Posted by: ontherocks at July 20, 2012 08:38 AM (aZ6ew)

That's the news for you.   The very nature of news is they report events that are outliers in the regular operation of society,    but this hopelessly myopic view    doesn't work in the 24 hour news cycle.     Once the story has been reported, they need to move on and find other stories; but that's hard.    So instead they      take the story they have and blow it up into something much larger than it is.     It isn't the daily norm that a lunatic teargasses a theater full of innocent moviegoers and then proceeds to kill and wound dozens of them.      But if the MFM makes it SOUND like there's a    psychotic killer around every corner, they don't have to do any legwork for the next week or so to find other news.

Posted by: Vic at July 20, 2012 07:36 AM (YdQQY)

I just took a concealed carry class and one of the rules here in VA is that if the business says  no weapons, that means no weapons even if it's if you have the permit. 

Theaters are a popular one who have the 'No Weapons'  on the door. 

For the sake of clarity, I was talking about the goofy Farah Fawcett knockoff on the couch.

Heather N. doing the updates is a breathtakingly lovely distraction.

Posted by: A Monkey On Crack at July 20, 2012 08:45 AM (O7Q1u)

Despite the serious nature of this topic, I have to say that this comment paired with that username made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2012 08:35 AM (hCFtV)

Gahhh...  If there were any justice those half-dozen idiots would have been dragged out back and given a good thrashing.  Enough of that and we'd finally have some order.  Bad parenting and bad public education are turning this place into a hell hole. 

Happily here in my part of flyover country, the underclass are either not as abundant, or they are priced out of the movie going experience.  Which is maybe a good strategy - keep pushing up ticket and refreshment prices until the scum can't pay any more.  It works with property taxes to keep them out of my part of town.  I'll happily pay a premium for that and still go out to the movies.  I don't go to the theater to be inexpensively entertained so much as I do it to get out of the house, take a drive, and ignore my phone, computer, and the outside world in general for a while. 

Why would someone do that? What is the purpose of shooting people in a theater? Is there someone in there he hated? Was he fired by the movie theater?

How does someone decide to do something like that?

Also, I noticed there was a 6 year old wounded. Who the fuck takes their 6 year old to a pg-13 movie let alone at a midnight showing?

America needs to do something about its gun laws.

Last time I checked, there wasn't anything stopping you from going back to England, Piers.

"And now you know why Internet Cafe Old Guy kept shooting and pursuing his assailants.

If someone runs in with a gun, you Stop them immediately. Or you might end up bleeding out on the floor next to 14 other victims."

Amen.

In a lot of cases  retreating to add distance makes sense, but in a confined, crowded  space like an internet cafe or a movie theatre, moving fast to close  on the perp with a violence of action is probably the way to go.  He's not expecting it, you put fewer people between you and the target, the shot's easier, the backstop may be better.   Move and shoot.

It looks kind of planned IF you trust the reporting on it. Personally, I do not.

I don't trust any reporting at this early stage in terms of MOTIVE, but from the description of what happened -- multiple guns used,    some kind of gaseous irritant released over the crowd (potentially teargas) -- this definitely sounds like a planned action.  

Posted by: A Monkey On Crack at July 20, 2012 08:50 AM (O7Q1u)

You should form a lobbying group in Washington.  I'm sure you could get some sweet gubmint cheese out of the deal.    Or would it be sweet gubmint bananas, you being a monkey and all?

Okay, I'm reading on CNN that a baby was injured. Who brings a baby to the movie theaters? Who brings a baby to a midnight showing? Who brings a baby to a pg-13 movie?

 Humans, sometimes I don't understand you

Okay, this is hysterical.

Local fishwrap breathlessly blogging/reporting on the 200 - YES, 200!!!! - losers (I mean people) lining up outside where the SCOMAF is speaking here today. 

In a county of over 1/4 million residents.  Wow!!!

http://tinyurl.com/6vp9cvf

I can't wait to see if Julio from McDonald's shows up again. 

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at July 20, 2012 08:54 AM (9TTOe)

Indeed.  And there's also "crazy."  Don't forget crazy.

We, as a society, are obsessed with finding some addressable cause for every unpleasant reality.  We refuse to accept the simple but true statement that "shit happens."  You can't fix/prevent every bad thing, and trying usually just makes things worse. 

That's part of the reason why I contend that the damn do-gooders are the ones who do this country the most harm.  How many mass shootings have the do-gooders facilitated, simply by disarming everyone else?  How many of life's natural pleasures are made into chores or sources of stress by those moralizers?  I can't have salty, fatty bacon?  I can't be trusted to own a fire arm?  I can't do this, that, and the other?  Well, fuck you.  If this is what is supposedly bringing us ever closer to paradise, then I say that life was better when it was worse.

"We will know soon enough what this freaks claimed rationale was."

Not if he was an ecopagan womyn's studies major climate change AGW car powered by vegetable oil Birkenstock-wearing Hope-N-Changer, who lived at home with his Mom, and about 40 stray cats, and who had at least as many bumper stickers on the back of his car.

In that case, the whole dadgum tragedy will be swept under the rug, and it will be as though it never even happened.

Over Memorial weekend alone there were 40 shooting in Chicago. Did the JEF have a statement on that?

In a statement, President Obama said, "Michelle and I are shocked and saddened by the horrific and tragic shooting in Colorado. Federal and local law enforcement are still responding, and my administration will do everything that we can to support the people of Aurora in this extraordinarily difficult time. We are committed to bringing whoever was responsible to justice, ensuring the safety of our people, and caring for those who have been wounded."

So he will bring the guilty to justice

Remember when "crazy" was enough to  explain   acts of mass murder?

Good times.

"Also, I noticed there was a 6 year old wounded. Who the fuck takes their 6 year old to a pg-13 movie let alone at a midnight showing?"

RAYCISS!

BAN DAT IP ADDRESS!

MODRURATUHS, WAKE UP!

RAYCIDM!

And here comes a real treat - for those who don't remember Julio from McDonalds at the Crist hug rally (warning:  gag): 

http://tinyurl.com/canc2p

I've been putting off buying a handgun.  Looks like it's time to start getting serious about my self defense.

Posted by: A Monkey On Crack

Get your stinking paws off my gun, you damn dirty ape!

You know, I want to believe that Axelrod is hiring you morons to astroturf this website, but I am starting to worry that there are so many SWPL nihilist fools here that you have actually deluded yourselves into thinking there is nothing wrong with a child being AWAKE at midnight, much less removed from the home to see a God-damned movie?

Again, I ask: ARE YOU PEOPLE INSANE?!?!?!?

I miss lace wigs.  And spurwing of couse.

"It'll cost you a few bucks, but the satisfaction is tremendous...

...go to the concession stand, buy the largest sugary stickiest drink you can, and go dump it over the perps head and lap, then beat a hasty retreat while they're still in shock and wondering WTF."

There used to be someone who parked in one of the few handicapped spots in the parking garage for my old office.  This was someone without a handicapped sticker and who was not handicapped in any way.  He did this consistently and when I confronted him about it, he told me to fuck off.  In a sheer, utter, completely random series of events, that afternoon some mysterious person dumped a strawberry milkshake all over the front window of his vehicle.  It was a pity that.

Posted by: Drew in MO at July 20, 2012 09:10 AM (nEo/i)

That's what they're paid to do. It's all propaganda.

The shooter is a white hispanic.

"Posted by: he's a mooslin!!1!!!! at July 20, 2012 09:08 AM (UPWC2)"

You know, I'd stomp you but you are not worthy to be touched by the bottom of my boots. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at July 20, 2012 08:55 AM (JMsZp)

That is magnificent.  You ARE Bat Man...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 20, 2012 09:12 AM (8y9MW)

Yeah , I dont see the problem having you kids there on occasion. It's not everyday.

@231 - I just LOVED the 'anyone know the race of the shooter' question.  I know you were all praying this wasn't a white guy

That was my comment, you dick-smoking dog fucker.  And if you'd spent any real time around here instead of hiding in the utility closet sniffing your grandma's panties, you'd know that whenever the MFM leads a story and doesnt mention the race of the perpetrator, it's because nearly 90% of the time it isn't a white guy.

Go suck on Satan's diarrhea, asshole.

I always wait at least a week b4 I see these kinds of movies, because:

lines

noisy asshats

cell phones

sticky floors

teenagers

babies

parking

hour long commercials

... now I have to add murder-death-kill

We're racist poopyheads?  Seriously?  That's it?

America's trolls are losing their craftsmanship.  All we get these days is the same lame shit, over and over.

"this shooting is awful. How in the hell do you gun down teenagers and shoot a baby?"

A baby?  At a midnight screening of a Batman movie? 

Have a lovely day rationalizing why another white guy shot up a bunch of innocent people. Posted by: he's a mooslin!!1!!!! at July 20, 2012 09:08 AM (UPWC2)

LOL.  Unlike your sort, we have no need to rationalize what some crazy person, who happens to be white, does.  This guy will almost certainly be found to be some nut with a screw loose.   In any case, if there were some general problem with whites being mass murderers, well, there'd be nothing to be done about it anyway.  We're still the most numerous group, we have no particular agenda against the state or society, since we made most of it.  Nothing could be done.  Thus, there is no "root cause" as you people like to say, that could be gone after.

Where generalization is essential is in the case of identifiable enemy groups, like muslims (of any color).  In the case of those types of fringe minorities, there is value in considering policy alternatives to deal with them.

Too bad this nutcase didn't accidentally storm into The Obama Effect...he wouldn't have hit anyone.

Posted by: Baldy at July 20, 2012 09:25 AM (opS9C)

The narrative pushers would love that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at July 20, 2012 09:24 AM

Agreed.  I assume we're not talking about some daily habit.  This move has been highly anticipated by many folks and there's been a lot of enthusiasm in some circles to see it as early as possible.  The idea that kids may never have a late night with the grown ups is a bit too do-gooderish for my tastes.  Now, letting the kids run wild and set their own schedule - that's another thing.  That would be stupid.

Posted by: epobirs at July 20, 2012 08:57 AM (kcfmt)

A big noisy movie that was WELL past any baby's proper bedtime -- let alone the parents, who at that age in their child's growth should be fighting for as much sleep as they can get!   And what about the other moviegoers, huh?    Like you say, a complete lack of consideration on these parents' part.   Thank God neither they nor the child was killed or injured, but good Lord.  Grow up    and act responsibly.

Three-month old babies at a midnight movie? Eh, I can't summon up all the open-mouthed amazement of most of the people here.  Babies that small typically only wake up to eat, so the parents would figure mom could breastfeed her in the dark if necessary and then she'd go back to sleep.  I wouldn't do it, mostly because who has the energy to go out to a midnight movie when they've got a newborn at home?  I pretty much slept whenever the baby did, but I can see the thinking.  Movies like that are pretty loud, but who knows what's normal in that home?  Maybe the baby's used to loud noises all the time and would just sleep through it.  Older than that though I think is wrong - 4 year olds should be home in bed at midnight, not trailing around after their parents just to see a stupid movie.  Wait until the crowds clear and go to a normal evening showing when you can get a sitter or go to a matinee.  People with little children should be able to exert a little self-denial and not have to go !!opening night!!! because it's what all the cool kids do.

I've been reading that the shooter worked for Obama for America in TN in 2008.  

If this turns out to be true, then the shooting is definitely Sarah Palin's fault. 

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2012 09:32 AM (05RcU)

Never let a good crisis go to waste. He'll try to politicize the hell out of this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2012 09:32 AM (05RcU)

Because he's running for re-election and he can get a lot of mileage out of it?

The point of taking babies and toddlers to a midnight showing is less about the kids being there (though at a violent movie, I still shake my head) and more about the noise those children are likely to cause that would disturb the enjoyment of the other moviegoers.  You want to believe that if the three month old baby had started bawling halfway through the film that the mother or father would have taken it out of the theater until it calmed down.  But how many of us here REALLY think that's what would have happened?   And who REALLY thinks if that toddler had started running up and down the aisles and complaining about being bored that the parents would have taken him or her out of the theater?

Again, it's a lack of consideration.   Exercise some self-restraint, or wait and get a sitter and go opening weekend instead of opening night.

FBN is reporting that Obama is cancelling his event in Florida to go to Ft. Myers and make comments on the shooting.....ugh....ugh....ugh.
Posted by: Tami at July 20, 2012 09:30 AM (X6akg)

Why?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2012 09:32 AM (05RcU)

...He's setting up a special raffle for survivng theater patrons.  All they need to have is their ticket stub for a chance to appear in his next campaign ad. 

12 years old is old enough to behave in a movie theater. But toddlers at a movie not aimed at small children? This is frequently a gross disregard for everyone else who has paid to be there.

This. 

Not to mention, a midnight showing on opening night of a film that's been as hotly anticipated as "The Dark Knight Rises" is bound to be packed to the gills with diehard fanboys/fangirls who are NOT going to be forgiving of your child being a disruptive nuisance.   For the most part,     children that young aren't going to know to behave any better; their parents should.

@356

That's a contender for threadwinner, right there.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 20, 2012 09:35 AM (4df7R)

This I can agree with wholeheartedly.  If you can't control the noise level of your brats, keep them away from movies and similar entertainments.

Posted by: nickless at July 20, 2012 09:39 AM (MMC8r)

"ABC's running with any guy they could find named 'Jim Holmes?'"

I know, right? Common name, people. 

Posted by: Gran at July 20, 2012 09:40 AM (p8FXV)

I think they are.   They use the   anonymity of bandanas across their faces     and mass mayhem    to allow themselves to pretend to be an Alpha, because they have no power in their actual lives.  They're completely dominated by the world around them, and they use Occupy violence to    take revenge.    They're spoiled children.

That's why I wouldn't be surprised to find out that this awful human being was, if not an Occupier, at least sympathetic to their    movement.    But I'm not going to state hard and firm that he was anything other than a lunatic    until we know more.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 20, 2012 09:40 AM (T0NGe)"

JJ is probably racing down there on a Gulfstream right now to try and beat Bammer to the photo op.

Posted by: Wrong Scott Walker at July 20, 2012 09:44 AM (QjSgY)

They might as well just go scouring through the phonebook looking for anyone named "Jim."  It'd be about as accurate.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 20, 2012 09:43 AM (aGX9l)

That is possibly the stupidest thing I've heard thus far in relation to this tragedy. 

People, let me restate my earlier point:    lunatics with guns and teargas     are not    lying in wait behind your movie theater, prepared to step into the darkened theater and spray the crowd with bullets.  THIS IS NOT NORMAL.   This is an awful aberration, and the act of a sick individual who I pray is considered mentally stable enough to stand trial and get some asspounding jail justice.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 20, 2012 09:48 AM (aGX9l)

Some people worry about getting the gasoline smell on their hands.  Must be an office worker.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 20, 2012 09:48 AM (aGX9l)

Meh, not really.   She    could just hate the smell of gasoline on her hands.    Or like me she might try to avoid touching metal, because     when I handle metal like change or car keys and then touch my face, BAM.  Instant breakout. 

Or she might be a Howard Hughes-level germophobe.   That's true.

The Virginia Tech shooter wasn't bullied either...he was just your run-of-the-mill Korean kid with Asperger's. 

Posted by: yinzer at July 20, 2012 09:48 AM (/Mla1)

Let's take a bet.  A single mom and no dad in the house. Kid is a doper and gamer and loner.

I haven't shot my gun in years.

"I had a kid punch me randomly once, and yet I was asked to attend counseling after I responded."

Reminds me of when I was in high school and got my ass kicked, was never even able to get a punch in and yet I still got suspended for 3 days. 

I remember telling the principal after being informed of my suspension: "But I never even hit the guy!!!" to which he responded "Yes, but you wanted to hit him"  to which I responded with as much control as a 16 y/o male has in that situation "Well no shit I wanted to hit him! You would have too! That's also  irrelevant."

Guy had his PhD in education.    

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at July 20, 2012 09:55 AM (KZI7g)

I wouldn't be surprised if that's true, but there's got to be more to it than that for a mom to not be surprised her son is a mass murderer.  A lot of 20 somethings fit that description, most don't go on shooting sprees.

The second saddest thing about this whole incident is that Obama, the Dems, and his media hagiographers will consider this a welcome distraction and milk it for much, much more than it's worth politically.

Re: Zimmerman case

Yaaaaaawn....

"New York City Mayor Micheal Bllomberg, who has emerged as one of the nation’s highest-profile supporters of gun control, demanded on Friday that the presidential candidates “stand up and tell us what they’re going to do about” mass shootings."

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***spit***

I have yet another reason to hate this President.    What's that, you ask?      The FIRST THING that went through my head when I saw that he canceled his FLA visit to fly    out to Colorado instead was as follows:

"I'll bet you dollars to donuts he's going to make some crass comment about how the survivors will get the best care and support available thanks to his fucking healthcare law."

Mr. President, I hate you for making me have to imagine your asinine political posturing in light of this tragedy, and I hate you even more for more than likely proving me right.

"New York City Mayor Micheal Bllomberg, who has emerged as one of the nation’s highest-profile supporters of gun control, demanded on Friday that the presidential candidates “stand up and tell us what they’re going to do about” mass shootings."

Dear Bloomers,

If     someone else in the theater had been carrying a gun, maybe this "mass shooting" wouldn't have been so fucking massive.

Sincerely,

Intelligent People Everywhere

27 Has the shooter's race been mentioned yet?

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subhuman?

"stand up and tell us what they’re going to do about” mass shootings."

How about "mandatory incarceration for all males aged 15-55" because that's about the only thing that can actually have an impact. It also has the same effect as gun bans, namely, punishing the overwhelming law-abiding majority at the expense of the criminal minority.

I despise "Zero Tolerance" rules. Yes, it takes two to fight. When only one person does it (say it with me) they call it "a beating."

Funny thing is, I did all the stuff I was supposed to do to avert the fight - the guy was actually a really good friend, but for some reason, he just snapped on me.  

My mom told the principal "You know what this teaches him to do next time?  To forget talking and to throw the first punch.  And I will encourage him to do so." 

Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker for dagny at July 20, 2012 10:06 AM (qFpRI)

Also, erg has no soul, so praying would be a wasted effort by him.

My mom told the principal "You know what this teaches him to do next time? To forget talking and to throw the first punch. And I will encourage him to do so."

No kidding. If you're going to get the same punishment you might as well get your licks in. What an idiot principal.

Posted by: El Kabong at July 20, 2012 09:58 AM (jZ4qy)

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But there is usually a history of "incidents' which point to a serious problem...see post 417.

Heh. Radio quipping about POTUS speaking about the CO shooting.

"He didn't do this on his own. There were people who built the bridges for him". Built the bullet proof vest and the guns, built mapquest so he could find the theater.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 20, 2012 10:07 AM (rX1N2)

Your mother is a wise woman.  This lesson holds true for every confrontation on Earth.

It's also another reason for the Left to despise Israel so much, the Six Day War is a shining example of this principle.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 20, 2012 10:07 AM (rX1N2)

I'm trying to imagine the pyramid of shit that led to a worthless cockmunch like that to be put in a position of responsibility overseeing the development of youths.  Unfortunately I'm sure it's not atypical of any public school system.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at July 20, 2012 10:19 AM (ogdab)

And GOP sold out to the liberals and their media narrative in hope the tea party would be damaged. Now the smears will continue.

Here we go . a clinical forensic psychiatrist on FOX evaluating the shooter.

I wonder if the dude who was in the front row who got up and went to the emergency exit had anything to do with it. Maybe it was him, and he rigged the door so he could come back in. Or maybe it was an accomplice.  Or maybe that person is not related to it at all....

72 hour rule might be right...

Posted by: Burned-out Vietnam-era Sidegunner at July 20, 2012 07:00 AM (wqffJ)

It's easy to make jokes about mass murder when it isn't your neighbors and friends getting murdered, eh?

@487 I bought the tickets for my kids 3 weeks ago.  In our little town of 45,000 there were 8 midnight shows last night and all were sold out. 

Last summer we all went to see the Harry Potter movie at midnight and it was actually fun.  Lots of teens in costumes, including a Voldemort and a Dumbledore who acted out a battle in the aisle before the movie started.   I wanted to be there to see this movie with my son, who was pretty much raised on the Harry Potter stories.  Was a great experience. 

Looks like its going to be a busy day.  I'll be at Disney World.  Call me if a white boy is the perp.

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 20, 2012 10:31 AM (8sCoq)

Dude.  Calm down.  Humor is a mechanism humans  use to cope with stress. 

If it bothers you, ignore it.  If you can't ignore it, walk away from your computer. 

So when Jim Holmes of Aurora, CO turns out to have been sleeeping in his bed while this occurred, will the media issue a retraction?  Where does he go to get his good name back? 

Drive by media indeed.  If we shot all the journalists, there'd be reports from Hell by breakfast. 

DangerGirl, I'm so sorry to hear that, my prayers for you all.

"Sounds like Tea Partier Jim Holmes may have a great chance to sue the shit out of ABC."

That was my first thought as well.  Someone, somewhere, has to start pushing back at the Sullivan standards particularly in the world of instant dissemination of "information".  Congrats, for the rest of his life that James Holmes will have his name linked as a possible spree shooter because ABC apparently cannot take two minutes to see if these could even possibly be the same person. 

It's just so strange that we're considered bigots, haters, and racists if we reach high probability conclusions about names when they're Islamic, Islamicized, or middle eastern-sounding. 

But a name that just seems Anglo-sounding  warrants an immediate investigation into the Tea Party and smearing an entire political movement.

I wonder why that is.

Posted by: Retread at July 20, 2012 10:39 AM (I2fq9)

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It's not incompetence....it's purposeful.  

"That or maybe we could have a Kate Upton / Kate Beckinsale / Christina Hendricks 3-way mud wrestling thread."

Go on. 

Posted by: Tami at July 20, 2012 10:41 AM (X6akg)

Of course it is; these "mistakes" only happen in one direction and the fuckheads then go on when proven wrong as if nothing ever happened.  It's being noticed as their credibility is just about nil.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at July 20, 2012 10:44 AM (vbh31)

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I'm with ya Soap.  Could not care less.

Posted by: polynikes at July 20, 2012 10:13 AM (RM1gx)"

If that makes you defective, then I guess I am too.

Posted by: mpfs at July 20, 2012 10:47 AM (iYbLN)

What happened to the "we want to be treated the same as everybody else" meme?  Is there anything the brass can't fuck up?

I did a google search for "Jim Holmes colorado san diego"    (since a woman claiming to be the mother of the alleged shooter is in San Diego) and found one individual in the right age range.  So it must be him.

What?  I'm just using the same level of basic analysis the news readers have!

If I can't wear my uniform to a Tea Party Rally, then the pink brigade shouldn't get to wear their uniforms to a Gay Pride Rally. 

This shit didn't happen until we put a sailor up as CJCS. 

Posted by: senorlechero at July 20, 2012 10:44 AM (NQ6H9)

How dare you? Gabe is a true conservative warrior and not the cowardly little RINO that the majority of his posts would indicate!

"We here in Tulsa are still in shock over the collateral damage murder of our coworker at Best Buy by the gang member. It hits you very hard."

Yeah, one of my employees committed suicide recently.  A really good kid.  Was working for me, getting ready to go to college.  Wanted to be a neurologist.  Had sex with his GF who was 16.  Mother was pissed and forced a statutory rape charge.

Hung himself right before the hearing.

He was always in a cheerful mood, joking around, working hard and gave no indication that he was in trouble.

Just an awful situation.

Posted by: Vegan Meatball at July 20, 2012 10:50 AM (yn6XZ)

Alas, the mud is where the fight is. Genteel conservatism can't survive when the enemy is willing to resort to outright lies.

Alas, the mud is where the fight is. Genteel conservatism can't survive when the enemy is willing to resort to outright lies.

Fuck an A. 

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 20, 2012 10:49 AM (05RcU)

Children are nothing but accessories to Leftists.

Use them, exploit them, casually murder them if they are somehow 'defective', 'unwanted', or any other dehumanizing phrase that happens to be in vogue.

It's why I am a social conservative.  Finances are important, but the core of our ideological opposition is not financial incompetence - it's bloody-minded eugenics/ubermensch utopian Marxist evil in disguise.

Lately, the disguise is dropping more often.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at July 20, 2012 10:42 AM (VtjlW)

I'm pretty sure I'm in love with you.  Well, you and HeatherRadish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 20, 2012 10:52 AM (nEUpB)

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I've trained my TV's to mute themselves if he's ever on.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 20, 2012 10:53 AM (Ec6wH)

Excuse ME.  I'm a good letter I am.    I   don't fuck.    I make love.

"The Left is already muttering about gun control."  Of course they are & then the govt. will be the only ones with the guns & we've seen what they can do (Fast&Furious).

Need to read a book about Americans finally taking a stand against federal tyranny cause it's so current today.  Our constition is being attacked daily by corrupt politicians & the left media.  www.booksbyoliver.com  I recommend it. It's a thriller & a good reason to defend our right to bear arms.

@561 I concur.  If someone had a concealed gun then maybe so many would not be hurt, but yes, that would make sense because it worked in times past in our history or maybe the man would not have gone in the movie theater in the first place had he thought that there might be someone with a weapon there.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 20, 2012 10:56 AM (nEUpB)

*whisper*  So's AtC!

Got to work this morning and the lefties are already calling for gun control.  That, and I'm being told how Zimmerman shot that poor child in cold blood. 

I have to work with these people, it's impossible for me to tell them how idiotic they are because it just is. 

Time for me to get my long-overdue concealed carry permit. 

Posted by: USA at July 20, 2012 10:59 AM (6Cjut)

This is a lot of planning and effort.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 20, 2012 10:58 AM (sbV1u)

Yep.  Until the LGBTBBQ gestapo starts screaming about    bigotry, and the upper echelon caves in.  

Posted by: Will Not Assimilate For Food at July 20, 2012 11:00 AM (kXoT0)

No, if you don't profess love for them then you're a hater. It's the way to drag everybody into silence and obedience.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 20, 2012 10:56 AM (nEUpB)

Ginger women are my own personal version of crack:  I know they're bad for me, I know they'll eventually kill me, but I can't stay away from them.

>The Left is already muttering about gun control. The Right is already

>muttering about the Left muttering about gun control.

>I'm happy I'm going to be on a plane for most of the morning, so I won't

>accidentally see any more of that garbage.

Yes. Those two things are exactly the same. Not.

Gabe, what are you doing here?  Did you make a wrong turn or something?

589 -

Next stop, Mr. Holmes, is your county courthouse.  Time to get a name change.  Something less troubling, perhaps as simple as changing your first name to something  just as common as James.  Like John. 

You might even find you get more dates!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 20, 2012 10:58 AM (4df7R)

Thank you for the warning. I was going to invite her to the next NY/NJ moron meetup, and with this information I will have to reevaluate.

Or at least hire extra security.

Although...she does have excellent taste.

http://is.gd/ozNsdQ           

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 20, 2012 11:05 AM (ZhEoC)

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Fox and Friends beat them to that hours ago.

600 comments, eh? Are we exchanging recipes  yet?

Mornin', y'all.

BF's ginger, but I guess there's not the same fascination when the roles are reversed. Unless it's this guy:

http://tinyurl.com/7h6fn6s

If the senior officer corps of our military hasn't changed in the last few years (and it hasn't), I wouldn't put much stock in proper application of Art. 134 to conduct in these particular cases.

Appointments for 2 or more stars comes from the Senate IIRC, so you can bet that PC is firmly entrenched in the military culture.  Heard an admiral on NPR the other day spouting off watermelon propaganda in a most liberal appeal to authority fashion regarding the new fuel bullshit the Navy is trying.

There's a reason I decided to call it quits at 20 years on the nose: the decline was in full swing.  that and I didn't want Barky's sig on my retirement paperwork.

Posted by: El Kabong at July 20, 2012 11:09 AM (jZ4qy)

Last night I was playing Farmville, and by God, I am suddenly overcome with the urge to plow      dozens of    perfectly square plots of land in order to plant and harvest crops of strawberries and bell peppers,    which I'll then feed to the animals neatly penned up in my Cow Pasture, Horse Stable, Pet Run...

610 -

These people form the vast majority around here, and it's taken for granted that everyone agrees with them.  I think of it like I've been working undercover among them for the last 5 years.  Either that, or I'm like an anthropologist, living among the lower life forms (I have to be very careful of my wording here). 

"All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors,"  -Obama

"He said they were praying for the families and loved ones of the victims "during this time of deep shock and immense grief."  -Romney

Ya know, I'm not a man of faith, but when I look at these two expressions of such side by side, I take one of them as genuine and one as total bullshit.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at July 20, 2012 11:13 AM (4df7R)

Posted by: PCachu at July 20, 2012 11:15 AM (r2Oug)

VA Tech was proud to be a gun-free zone even though VA is a shall-issue state. If you put the sheep in the pasture with no shepherd then the wolves will eat well.

Posted by: Methos at July 20, 2012 11:16 AM (6LvlL)

I laughed.  A LOT.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at July 20, 2012 11:17 AM (78gUL)

Makes sense.  Male gingers are usually strangled at birth, right?  (I keed, I keed)

Posted by: @PurpAv at July 20, 2012 11:20 AM (yV35g)

Eh. I'm not willing to put on the tin-foil homburg yet. There's plenty of disaffected loners out there without invoking a Grand Conspiracy.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at July 20, 2012 11:18 AM (0It32)

Will Ferrell might be a lib, but I still think "Anchorman" is his best movie. That and his role in Zoolander, the rest of his stuff is total crap.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 20, 2012 11:21 AM (Ku0Zr)

Sounds promising.   I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at July 20, 2012 11:21 AM (ZhEoC)

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Does he have a new movie out called 'The Campaign'? 

Will Ferrell might be a lib, but I still think "Anchorman" is his best movie. That and his role in Zoolander, the rest of his stuff is total crap.

I thought that documentary he did on NASCAR was pretty good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 20, 2012 11:22 AM (sbV1u)

[Beavis and Butthead laugh] He said Aer Lingus. [Beavis and Butthead laugh]

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert at July 20, 2012 11:24 AM (8cJXl)

Maybe the PI is right and he's a Black Bloc anarchist. If so, the story will disappear faster than you can say "Control the narrative."

Posted by: Tami at July 20, 2012 11:23 AM (X6akg)

He's still living off of his George Bush sketch.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at July 20, 2012 11:24 AM (78gUL)

LOL!

I've long wondered why red haired women are usually so mean spirited/spiteful (compared to women of other hair colors).  I believe the roots lay in color psychology.  It's known that different colors induce different emotional states, and that red in particular increases aggression.  So, if you see a bunch of red every morning when you look in the mirror, naturally you will become more aggressive.

Posted by: nickless at July 20, 2012 11:25 AM (MMC8r)

Definitely premeditated...  also, he was pursuing a PhD.

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Yep.  The girl I dated in high school, 90 lbs. soaking wet, super-fire red variety, freckles everywhere (and I do mean everywhere)... I swore at the time I was going to marry her... they really must secrete some kind of drug. 

I can remember having the vaguest notion that she would eventually grow into becoming her mother.  It's been more than a few years since I've seen her, and I am certain it's true.  That's enough to make me swear off the reds.

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at July 20, 2012 11:29 AM (ZKzrr)

Hmmm...  Perhaps it is so.  I wonder if all red heads are bullied in that fashion?  And this reinforces my color theory.  Seeing the red must make those other females more aggressive also, thus the bullying.

OK, I can admit it--the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in person (aside from Mrs Meanie) was a red-headed Irish stewardess on an Air UK flight from London Stansted to Frankfurt Hahn airport on October 19, 1996.  She torments my dreams. 

We can't just dismiss shit out of hand as impossible that we use to be able to.

I used to take solace in that saying, "It can't happen here, this is America." As we've seen these past four years,   that sadly no longer applies.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 20, 2012 11:25 AM (OWjjx)

It was painfully unfunny. Will Farrell is a no talent ass clown. And I don't care what anyone says, Anchorman sucked.

Following Gerry's link, here's the disclaimer at the top of the ABC News story about teh shooting:

Editor's Note: An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted.

Where's toby928?   I can't generate the right level of passionate outrage to holler, "The BALLS ON THESE GUYS!"   It needs a professional.

"ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted."

The ASSHOLES.

ABC beginning damage control:

Editor's Note: An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted.

Now it's time to full court press these assholes.

According to police, shooter dropped out of University of Colorado School of Medicine last month.

So it's John Roberts' fault?

Posted by: HeatherRadish has a sugar buzz at July 20, 2012 11:14 AM (ZKzrr)

...this is a very discouraging Friday.  Many prayers needed with all the news on this thread.  ><

In late 2008, San Diego FBI agents investigating al Qaeda-linked cleric Anwar al-Awlaki 
came across an email from an Army psychiatrist asking the American-born cleric his thoughts on American Muslim soldiers killing their non-Muslim counterparts.

"Would you consider them shaheeds (martyrs)?" Maj. Nidal Hasan asked in an intercepted email.

Sufficiently alarmed, the San Diego agents forwarded the case to agents in Washington, where Hasan was then stationed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. But instead of interviewing Hasan or his commanding officers, FBI agents conducted a brief investigation and determined Hasan was not a threat.

"ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted."

Think they got a call from their legal department?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 20, 2012 11:38 AM (d0Tfm)

I think they got a call from NBC's      legal department.    "Guys, you've gotta vet that shit first."

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 20, 2012 11:40 AM (pmDdf)

It's rumored that he also sells kiddie porn but I haven't properly vetted that yet

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) pushed back hard Thursday against the notion that congressional leaders should release their tax returns, saying the standard applies only to presidential candidates.

“When I run for president of the United States, you can hold me to that standard,” Pelosi told reporters in the Capitol.

“The disclosure that we have is full and complete,” she added, noting that she's met all of the financial disclosure obligations required of Congress.

Motive for shooting was high  student loan debt, and easy access to guns.  A deadly combination.

Posted by: Filly at July 20, 2012 11:41 AM (CkvzP)

Exactly.   And I'd like to know if they've corrected their error on TV, too, or just online, like NBC did with their editing of the George Zimmerman 911 call.  Because I can guarantee you that most people aren't going to notice the retraction and apology   unless it's broadcast loud and long.

"Think they got a call from their legal department?"

I wouldn't bet against a personal visit from them: "Look you j-school  shitstains,  I appreciate the fact that we share the same worldview, but  try searching for a couple of neurons to rub together before you start blabbing slanderous accusations into the newsreader's ear."

Posted by: typo dynamofo at July 20, 2012 11:36 AM (78gUL)

Hmmm...  Yep.  I think the incidence of widespread persecution of red heads is confirmed.  Clearly there is a recurring theme.  So, why persecute the red heads?  Because they are few, and thus obvious targets?  OR - is it because the very redness of their visage inspires aggression? 

If only I could get some public grant money for this scientific inquiry I'm sure that very useful and valid results might be generated that would benefit ginger-kind.  Of course, it's vital to be thorough.  My research would need to be well funded for at least 10 or 15 years. 

Posted by: Berserker at July 20, 2012 11:42 AM (FMbng)

Reminds me of Jack Nicholson's one character.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 20, 2012 11:45 AM (dZ756)

I don't know about V-I wasn't interested in Steam-but there's a lot of life left to be had in IV if you check out the mods at civfanatics.com

Posted by: runningrn at July 20, 2012 11:52 AM (WGmy2)

I was in Denver a few years back, hanging with a few friends in a bar... ALL X Military (most retired)... when the conversation turned to just how inept and incompentent the Muslim Terrorists seemed to be...

The conversationg got realllllyyyyy scary after that.... because we had all grown up in a technological society, and America WORSHIPS competence...

American Terrorists would be the worst... look at Columbine... or how long it took to find the Beltway Sniper...

Posted by: Barrky Obumya, continuing the meme to its logical conslusion at July 20, 2012 11:59 AM (lZBBB)

Sock fail....

Posted by: this is horrific at July 20, 2012 12:14 PM (oZfic)

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What would we do without you?!

Posted by: thunderb at July 20, 2012 09:19 AM (Dnbau)

That is teh awesome!

Posted by: real joe at July 20, 2012 12:26 PM (vPN5

Think of it as a psychological experiment concerning mass psychosis.  In addition, for the left, if it can't fit on a bumper sticker, it's not worth knowing...bonus points if it rhymes (Bush lied, people died!)

#834: I can understand that. It just reminded me of when Obama referred to Sarah Palin as the "Mayor of Wasilla" back in '08. Except in the case of Rigg, I know no slight was intended.

First kick-ass female fighter on TV, and she usually wore a leather body suit while she was at it.