August 15, 2012
— Gabriel Malor Happy Wednesday.
On the stump last night, Gov. Romney hit the Lightbringer hard, saying that he was "intellectually exhausted" and that the President's "wild and reckless accusations . . . disgrace the office of the presidency." More, please.
Even more DHS employees are coming forward with claims of abusive behavior at J-Nap's "female frat house." (I really don't get that "female frat-house" line that shows up in all these stories. I get it -- it's like a frat-house, but with women being disrespectful party animals instead of men. There must be a word for that...)
The despicable Priorities USA ad accusing Romney of killing a woman "accidentally" aired in Ohio yesterday morning. At least, according to Priorities USA jackhole Bill Burton it was an accident. He seems like a trustworthy guy, right?
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Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 02:52 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 02:53 AM (YdQQY)
During her third and final year at Harvard Law School, first lady Michelle Obama — then named Michelle Robinson — penned an article for the newsletter of Harvard’s Black Law Students Association (BLSA), arguing that Harvard and its students were perpetuating “racist and sexist stereotypes” by not intentionally hiring minority and female law professors on the basis of their sex or skin color.
Never mind that this is illegal based on the 1964 CRA. Never mind that the courts have ruled against it. Its “social justice and it is the way the race grievance mongers think. And her and Barky are two of the biggest race grievance mongers on the planet.
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And thatÂ’s it for news this morning.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 02:54 AM (YdQQY)
Mitt Romney and Paul,Ryan asking why Choom had to pad his stash by 716 billion from granny?
"Unhinged"
Slow Joe Biden-restrained we agree with his chains stuff....
Yeah I'll take that gamble with the voter.
So add "crazy" to Robotic, Boring, Time Travelling, Nuclear Eye Beam slinging, vulture capitalist of doom....
Gee Barry I don't know why your gravitas is shrinking scooter
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 02:55 AM (LRFds)
Choom King runs the regulators....
hang this on his neck along with EPA....
the sign outta read, "I did not notice I was out golfing"
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 02:57 AM (LRFds)
True right now, but if I am not mistaken this "black box" thing got started under the Bush years. In a lot of cases these regulators just run amuck and nobody reigns them in.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 02:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:01 AM (YdQQY)
Yup and the politician who runs on knocking the Money Lenders from temple....
will have popularity in the 90s
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 03:02 AM (LRFds)
The last person who ran on doing that was RR and thanks to a Democrat congress it did not happen. Nobody, I repeat nobody, has been able to slow the growth of the DC monster.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:04 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 15, 2012 03:05 AM (d9tUw)
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:07 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Ozzie at August 15, 2012 03:08 AM (dZvHt)
EPA had not gone full Jar Jar at that point and was still relatively young....
(like me born in 1972)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 03:10 AM (LRFds)
I think if R/R win it's going to be a WHOLE new ballgame in Washington.
Could you imagine Ryan being VP/President for 16 years!!!???
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 03:13 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 15, 2012 06:51 AM (GoIUi)
At least the Master Projectionists in the WH didn't say Romney was "off the chain."
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 15, 2012 03:15 AM (QjSgY)
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Posted by: Ozzie at August 15, 2012 07:08 AM (dZvHt)
Are you sure the she didn't say she may start running on a treadmill in her office to keep from looking like the glacier in pantsuits?
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 03:18 AM (sz9nR)
it's like a frat-house, but with women being disrespectful party animals instead of men. There must be a word for that...
Oh! Oh! I know! Gigantic Horrority House!
Posted by: Zombie Horschak at August 15, 2012 03:19 AM (QjSgY)
(I really don't get that "female frat-house" line that shows up in all these stories. I get it -- it's like a frat-house, but with women being disrespectful party animals instead of men. There must be a word for that...)
I think the term for that is "sorority house."
Cat House is probably close enough, though.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 03:21 AM (xUM1Q)
Thanks for the news, Gabe and Vic. At this point, Romney could stand naked in front of a news crew and he'd still have more dignity than the dog-eating Kenyan cocksucker.
And you know what really grinds my gears about Biden's "chains" bit? That he won't suffer for it at all. It's just going to be laughed off as "oh, that crazy Joe - who knows what he'll say next, ha, ha!" If it wasn't that it would put us irrevocably on the road to banana republic, I would beg Romney to slap chains on Biden and Choom the moment he takes the oath of office and throw them into PMITA supermax for the rest of their rotten lives.
Anyway. . .
There aren't a lot of stories about Oz, except for the ones people already know - the Munchkins being a drunk, horny horde, the well-developed Judy Garland's boobehs having to be strapped down (first choice for the role? Shirley Temple), Buddy Ebsen nearly dying from the Tin Man's silver paint, the front office wanting Over the Rainbow cut from the final print - and most of the Garland stories I know are pathetic ones regarding her drinking and drugging and all-around miserable life.
So instead, let me toot my own horn for a moment: if any of you 'rons and 'ronettes happen to be on the North Shore area of Massachusetts, come by the Rogers Center for the Performing Arts at Merrimack College, North Andover, at 6.30 tonight; I do occasional lectures / screenings of silent films and will be showing Charlie Chaplin's The Kid at 7.00.
And with that, here's a Chaplin story:
He's mostly forgotten now, but Jackie Vernon was a fairly successful comic during the '60s and '70s, being a perennial fixture on the Dean Martin Celebrity Roast panel. If his name sounds familiar to you, it's because he was the voice of Frosty the Snowman in the Rankin-Bass cartoon of the same name. As a boy, Vernon was a huge fan of Chaplin and would write him fan letters week after week, month after month and year after year, all of them having one thing in common - they were never answered.
Years later, Vernon, in London for a gig, learned that Chaplin was eating dinner in a nearby restaurant. Knowing it might be the only chance he'd have to see his idol, Vernon hurried over. Spotting Chaplin, he crossed the restaurant and held out his hand. "Mr. Chaplin," he gushed, "please excuse me, but I had to come over and say hello. My name is Jackie Vernon and I'm one of your biggest fans."
Chaplin shook Vernon's hand, but there was an odd look in his eye. "Vernon. . . Vernon," he muttered. Then he nodded. "Oh, yes, Vernon! Tell me," he asked, "why did you stop writing?"
Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 15, 2012 03:22 AM (zF6Iw)
Think I'd go with "Foul rabid cow house/barn". For starters.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 15, 2012 03:22 AM (ksERZ)
(like me born in 1972)
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 07:10 AM (LRFds)
Sure it had, the first head of the EPA was appointed by Nixon (Ruclesnot) and his first act was to ban DDT despite the recommendation by the "scientists" to leave it alone.
So from the start the EPA abandoned "science" and replaced it with politics.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:23 AM (YdQQY)
Yeah, not the best decision....
Posted by: Millions of African Malaria Zombies at August 15, 2012 03:26 AM (ksERZ)
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 03:28 AM (sz9nR)
You can bail out during 6th grade and Obama sees you as skilled, valuable worker we can't afford to lose.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 15, 2012 07:05 AM (d9tUw)
Well, with the state of our US education system of public schools, it may be that some of the illegal 6th grade dropouts actually are skilled labor compared to the US students that stay in public schools longer.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 03:31 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 15, 2012 03:32 AM (ZFXqT)
Wasn't it Ruckleshouse that said something to the effect that if we can ban DDT, we can ban/regulate ANYTHING!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 03:33 AM (Cnqmv)
The media is just doing redistribution of outrage! Nothing to see here, move along!!!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 03:34 AM (Cnqmv)
*cough* delegation doctrine *cough*
It's interesting, I was just thinking this morning about how there will be no change in Washington until the permanent bureaucracy all get fired. When RR get elected (hey I'm putting as much positive energy out there as I can [shut up I have my hippie moments]), I want them to fire every single solitary federal employee. Yup. Every single one up to and including the janitorial staff. Get rid of everyone. Do you think the staffers at the EPA, the DEA, at ICE, the State Dept.etc. etc. ad nauseam really care who gets elected President? They have their fiefdoms and they'll do what they want. Fuck 'em, fire them all.
For the record, I never understood the controversy when Clinton fired all the AGs. To the victor go the spoils and he had every right to do that. I simply want the Republicans to do the same.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 15, 2012 03:36 AM (Gk3SS)
There was a reason why the DC bureaucracies grew by leaps and bounds in the 70s. There is a paper out there that discusses the scams run on DDT and the Love Canal (and many others). Bing up "Facts vs Fears" and download the pdf file.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:36 AM (YdQQY)
The nice pollworker will show you where to mark your ballot for him (if they haven't filled it out for you already).
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 15, 2012 03:36 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 07:33 AM (Cnqmv)
I had not heard that but it would not surprise me.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:38 AM (YdQQY)
Gordon Ramsey did a great job showing people how Northeastern liberals think and treat people in his new reality show, Hotel Hell.
Two gay liberals from Manhatten buy an inn in Vermont, mistreat the staff, don't pay them, steal their tips and hold them and the people who live in the small town in utter contempt.
The RNC needs to figure out how to make a commercial from this footage.
Posted by: jwest at August 15, 2012 03:39 AM (ZDsRL)
I'm wearing my shocked face. She's only been groomed for it since she was still in the turkey baster.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 15, 2012 03:39 AM (ZKzrr)
If it wasn't that it would put us irrevocably on the road to banana republic, I would beg Romney to slap chains on Biden and Choom the moment he takes the oath of office and throw them into PMITA supermax for the rest of their rotten lives.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 15, 2012 07:22 AM (zF6Iw)
I must disagree with you here. Throwing the Choom administration into jail and allowing bubba to give them a good rectal stretch is the only thing that will SAVE us from becoming a banana republic. Clinton, foul POS that he was, taught the dems that they can break any law any time, and Obama learned that lesson well. Each day he breaks the law with impunity. The next Dem to be elected will do as much, or worse. Only fear of punishment will keep these trash in line. Holding public office is not "immunity" to the law. Tossing Obastard and his co-conspirators into prison, after a trial, is the only right action.
Further, let's say that doing so led to a horrific bout of civil strife. It would still be worth it. It would force the Right to either take over and clean house, or lay down and die. Now is the time, because we get a little weaker every year.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 03:40 AM (xUM1Q)
You can bail out during 6th grade and Obama sees you as skilled, valuable worker we can't afford to lose.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 15, 2012 07:05 AM (d9tUw)
Compared to the "skills" Obama possesses, many of them probably are. The solution, of course, is to send them and Obama back to their countries of origin.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at August 15, 2012 03:40 AM (qEkGZ)
think back I know about the DDT, remember I mock the hell out of Moonbat Hysteria with silent spring passages at times...
People were screaming for "clean America eleventy!!!!"
EPA is a lot like me, I am pretty sure I shit myself out of the gate too.....but at some point you're supposed to get pottytrained and stop trying to get mom and dad fired from work....
I outgrew that by at least 35....EPA not so much
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 03:41 AM (LRFds)
And yet the staff soldiered on like good serfs; they must have been RINOs.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 03:41 AM (Cnqmv)
I'm wearing my shocked face. She's only been groomed for it since she was still in the turkey baster.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 15, 2012 07:39 AM (ZKzrr)
Thank heaven she's such an ugly critter. That will help our side.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 03:43 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: small town girl at August 15, 2012 03:43 AM (tytk9)
First I had to endure an interview with soft-spoken Matt Lauer questioning the evil Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. If you are looking for "unhinged", there's your poster girl. I WAS surprised that after she went on this tirade about Ryan and having seen his "slash and burn" policies on the Budget Committee, Lauer pointed out that at least Ryan had an actual plan, and doesn't that give voters a choice. She then sputtered that she had represented her disctrict for 20 years and she KNEW her constituents wouldn't go for it. The best part was when she said he was a "really nice guy" so that is why it is "so disappointing that he has such extreme views."
Then Reince was interviewed by Savannah Guthrie, and he was very nice and sounded rational. She tried to back him into a corner on the "chains" comment by Biden, asking why it wsa so offensive. He simply said it wasn't acceptable and moved on to talking about saving Medicare. (I think this was good because while we all know Biden was talking to an aucience heavy with minorities, if Reince had brought that up then HE would have been accused of racism.) He did well, especially following DWS.
Prior tot he interviews they had a story about how both sides are getting pretty dirty. However, the examples they gave of Romney and Ryan were rational, patient and long-suffering type comments, while Biden and Obama sounded nasty and angry.
Then there was a looonng story by Andrea Mitchell on Chelsea's interview, with lots of video of Bill and Hillary while Andrea recapped her life story (which is apparently that she is the daughter of the Clintons and not much else). Oh, and she might go into politics.(Surprise!)
At that point, I had done all the observing I could stomach, so I went back to Fox.
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 15, 2012 03:44 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: bannor, voting Sweet Meteor of Death 2012 at August 15, 2012 03:44 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 15, 2012 03:44 AM (V2inB)
Posted by: DangerGirl on her DangerPhone at August 15, 2012 03:44 AM (Vdd8W)
It's going to take a whole new thought process in Washington to shake things up.
I don't seem to remember the American people clamoring for black boxes in their cars, I don't remember politicians going out to their constituents and telling them how they were going to support legislation that would make this a reality, I don't remember any votes in the house or the senate that would make it so, and yet we will soon have black boxes in our cars because someone, somewhere in some agency wished it to be so.
This is the way it was with DDT and this is the way it has been with all of the
unconstitutional crap that the feds have been slinging at us.
It is my wish that R/R put an end to this madness.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 03:45 AM (06lNq)
Reactionary, I understand. My comment was because of the fear that, if a Democrat got elected, he'd simply jail the previous administration, and so on and so on ad nauseam. But you do put it correctly; until and unless these vermin are punished (REAL punishment, not country club prison), the blatant law-breaking will continue.
The sticking point? RR, being gentlemen, would never do such a thing. They'd be more concerned about "binding up the nation's wounds" and placating the SCOAMF's one-missed-WIC-card-away-from-rioting base.
So we're stuck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 15, 2012 03:46 AM (zF6Iw)
The real problem is the Republicans raely even attempt to defend themselves on it and when they do they are "milquetoast" defenses.
I want to see some shouts of lies and liars.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:47 AM (YdQQY)
The British Secret Service is ran by perfect gentlemen who if they think you are a threat will remove you from existence.
Being a gentleman means following form, not enduring threats to the very existence of the state.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 03:48 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Greg's Mom at August 15, 2012 03:49 AM (hjRtO)
The problem with a representative democracy is that the representatives soon wind up representing only themselves and turn the actual "legislative work" over to staff (sort of like presidentin' is hard work) and create agencies to implement the actual details via regulation. Agencies, once empowered, keep thinking of more and more things they could do better and better to help you live your life.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 03:50 AM (Cnqmv)
We are the shouters get it?
Mitt and Ryan just smile point out the fact that only one politician has ever signed a piece of legislation tying Medicare's "trust fund" to a new debt throttling program and that is Choom King, we point out that at best both sides used IOUs but this is a whole new ballgame.
Brack Obama just proved Milton Friedman right and Friedman is part of how Reagan happened.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 03:50 AM (LRFds)
So we're stuck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 15, 2012 07:46 AM (zF6Iw)
Yes. Well, that is why mere conservatism is not enough. The cure is reaction. Actively turning back the clock to a time of sanity.
I'm hopeful that this next election will allow us to stem the tide and take a breather, but ultimately the Left can't co-exist with any other ideology. It must eventually come to a head - and either the Left kills us, or they are dealt with and put down.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 03:50 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at August 15, 2012 03:51 AM (IJHzz)
Jesus fucking Christ; even my dimwitted lib friends on Facebook were shitting their pants at dumbfuck Biden's comments and this simple bint can't figure out why it's offensive?
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 03:52 AM (sz9nR)
Yes but it does no good to shut at ourselves. As I have said, ad nauseum, the Republicans must learn to deal with the MFM to get their message across.
It is not fair, but they must fight two enemies, the press and the commies.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:52 AM (YdQQY)
It seems like nobody able to make a campaign contribution ever goes to jail anymore. Latest one to me is that banks are paying fines for violating various aspects of the law. Not one bank official is going to jail and the fines are passed on to customers or depositors of the bank.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 03:53 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 07:52 AM (sz9nR)
The commie was using the "I just got caught in the act screwing my wife's sister" defense. Deny deny deny.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 03:55 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 15, 2012 03:55 AM (4J57v)
We don't need to fight the Press anymore Vic they have 21% approval we talk past them.
Prince was being bullbaited by the newsie gal just now to play their "call us on racial double standards" game and he ignored her after dismissing the honor of Ogabe/Plugz....
That will at some point make the minority voters who SHOULD be the offended wonder, "why would he say that and let it go?"
Barck cannot weather the simple number 716 billion....
everything else is desperate noise to play "Operation Shiny Objects"....
we run into swayable voters everyday....
hell Romney should get T shirts made with the O stmbol and "ask me how DC stole 716 billion from your paycheck"....
this is a true gamechanging election....
Barack Obama ceded 75% of the battlespace BECAUSE of the M$M they are tied together in a freefire zone.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 03:57 AM (LRFds)
... even my dimwitted lib friends on Facebook were shitting their pants at dumbfuck Biden's comments and this simple bint can't figure out why it's offensive?
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 07:52 AM (sz9nR)
You have lib friends?
Yuck. You need a better social circle.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 03:58 AM (xUM1Q)
According to Geraghty this morning if Obama loses he'll run again in 2016.
Unless it's a landslide Republicans will have cheated so Obama, who only knows how to campaign, and will run again to rescue us.
Or he could retire to Martha's Vineyard a hop skip away from Provincetown and loaded with golf courses.
Posted by: Granny Jan and Jihad Kitty at August 15, 2012 03:58 AM (y96kr)
he is stuck with his base being pissed off they did not get the NHS plan and everyone else enraged at what he shat out for 716 billion and growing....
this is awesome.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 03:58 AM (LRFds)
Now if Game of Thrones had been produced by Republicans and George R.R. Martin's gristle encased head had been put on a pike. These same tools would be screeching louder than a thousand fingernails on a thousand blackboards.
Double standards does not get any more plain.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 15, 2012 03:59 AM (V2inB)
Well... the reason all the AGs got fired was so that the one looking into Whitewater and the Clinton involvement therein got flushed. The rest of the AGs getting axed? That was just collateral damage.
But fair enough- as you say, victor/spoils and so forth. I agree with you on this point.
But....fast forward to Bush- he cuts two or three AGs... suddenly there are subpeonas, congressional hearings, blah de blah de blah. For Bush doing the exact same thing Clinton had done years earlier, only on a smaller scale.
And of course the kneepad media was screeching and hooting about it the whole way. And of course our side meekly swallowed the whole gigantic ball of krep.
So definitely, I agree with you- but it sure would be nice if the rules worked the same way for both sides, yeah?
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 15, 2012 03:59 AM (ksERZ)
"Definitely want to check out the one you reference...while Greg is still asleep of course. "
I think you can watch the episode on the Fox/hotel hell website. The first one (it was two parts) is the best.
Posted by: jwest at August 15, 2012 04:00 AM (ZDsRL)
At least, according to Priorities USA jackhole Bill Burton it was an accident.
I guess they shouldn't be charged then?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 15, 2012 04:00 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: Hawker Flyer at August 15, 2012 04:00 AM (kheK+)
That will at some point make the minority voters who SHOULD be the offended wonder, "why would he say that and let it go?"
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 07:57 AM (LRFds)
I hate to be a downer, but that's wishful thinking.
However, I do agree that he was right to just let it go by. There's no winning that one.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 04:00 AM (xUM1Q)
Still cannot believe Russell Brand was in there, ruining it for the rest of us.
Posted by: EC at August 15, 2012 04:01 AM (GQ8sn)
I initially thought Reince was a jerk, but I am now beginning to think he is a major force for good after seeing several of his TV appearances!
Indirect responses are the only way to go because the MFM cannot afford to never have an R spokesman show up, and if they can't bait them into an injudicious response, then the real conservative (more or less) message gets out over the MFM airwaves.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 04:01 AM (Cnqmv)
Also on this day in 1911 Proctor Gamble Company introduced Crisco vegetable shortening.
Which means that they also introduced 50 % of Oreo stuffing.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 15, 2012 04:02 AM (VLifP)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 15, 2012 07:39 AM (ZKzrr)
Thank heaven she's such an ugly critter. That will help our side.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 07:43 AM (xUM1Q)
Plus if she was any more introverted she'd be autistic. I don't see this going well for her unless the Repubs put the likes of shit for brains Schmidt, Nicole Wallace, Frumsie and Mark McKinnon in charge of whomever runs against her and declares that they can't ask anything more controversial than what her favorite color is.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 04:02 AM (sz9nR)
History says the leftbats value the sanctity of the narrative more than any actor...
and they are pretty much set on that....
No he makes millions more in a system he hates....
he'll be gone.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 04:02 AM (LRFds)
I disagree, we need to be doing the shit like Sanunu did to Soledad O'brien in that video yesterday.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 04:04 AM (YdQQY)
9Yet another new study. Eggs are once again bad for you. Do I believe this shit. I no longer believe any studies. In fact, I just bought some eggs yesterday and I plan on having some this morning.
By "having some this morning" you're not talking about the eggs are you.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 15, 2012 04:05 AM (VLifP)
Yuck. You need a better social circle.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 07:58 AM (xUM1Q)
That's what my fellow morons are for.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 04:06 AM (sz9nR)
Posted by: Torvald at August 15, 2012 04:06 AM (1V6Pv)
According to Geraghty this morning if Obama loses he'll run again in 2016.
Posted by: Granny Jan and Jihad Kitty at August 15, 2012 07:58 AM (y96kr)
LOL. No way that happens. Once you lose, you're done. The machine will not give you two chances. They can always find another black politician. Indeed, it would be better for them, because then they can say "This time it's different and even more full of hope and change!"
Posted by: Reactionary at August 15, 2012 04:06 AM (xUM1Q)
"Flight" recorders are vitally needed in cars because they
a) help Progressive Insurance deny claims because they track location and speed, and
b) ensure that Janut Big Sorority Sister can track the movements of CCW, ex-military, and TEA Party types just in case.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 04:06 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 15, 2012 04:07 AM (YOZSv)
Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 04:08 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 15, 2012 04:08 AM (V2inB)
no talk past 'em go around....don't fall for any bait make your point move on with the occasional jab to their mouths like Attica O'leary got...
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 04:09 AM (LRFds)
Yep, she will run somewhere in the NE corridor where Dems are guaranteed to win and the nominee is determined in advance by the "Party".
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 04:09 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 08:04 AM (YdQQY)
Again, Sununu's performance during this campaign has been so outstanding it points out what a worthless pile of shit Poppy Bush was to have gelded him to make him seem like a stuttering fool previously.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 04:09 AM (sz9nR)
All you need to know about unequal treatment for Republicans and Democrats is that Sandy Burger and John Corzine are free men and Scooter Libby was jailed.
A man with a wide stance was hounded out of the Republican party and a man who killed a woman became a Lion of the Senate.
The Republican party is a moribund anachronism it needs cleansing of pussyboys and RINOS.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 04:10 AM (06lNq)
I blame that asshole Karl Rove for that.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 04:11 AM (YdQQY)
Yup....make your point when they are being obvious DKOs shills "jab" Alcatraz O'reilley is down
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 04:12 AM (LRFds)
Black boxes in cars? First of all they're orange so they can find it in the desert in case I ball up an airplane. Why the fuck do we need them in cars? To investigate a red light running accident? Most of the time car crashes are no brainers<<<<<<
Mostly, to tax you on the basis if mileage and/or carbon output.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 15, 2012 04:13 AM (JDIKC)
This time I want to be part of the screaming crowds. When the 2000 vote resulted in the hanging chads and the Florida demonstrations, we considered going down, a long long drive, to participate in the shenanigans. We did not go.
This time we are going, wherever it is.
Predict that venue for us.
Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at August 15, 2012 04:13 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 15, 2012 04:14 AM (ksERZ)
Posted by: Fritz at August 15, 2012 04:15 AM (/ZZCn)
But talking about Medicare, the nation desperately needs an adult conversation about entitlements, and right now the GOP is not doing it. Instead we are playing a game about how "Barry had blood on his hands" because we are afraid of 'Mediscare.' We can't be afraid of it. We need to confront it head on.
What's the implication of the attack on Barry? That we are going to fix Medicare? It's beyond fixing. Barry didn't steal $700 billion dollars. He stole $700 billion dollars that doesn't exist. He stole inflation from one place to put in another place. It was an accounting gimmick only the CBO bought. If the 'mandate is a tax' ruling by that corrupt bastard Roberts didn't slay the ObamaCare Dragon, this won't either.
We are never going to tackle entitlements through backdoor intrigue. People are going to notice. The only way entitlements will be addressed is if the American people want it so. And the only way to get it to happen is to be up front with them about how bad off we are. Hammering Barry for cutting Medicare isn't doing that.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 15, 2012 04:16 AM (uhAkr)
Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 04:17 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Harry Reid at August 15, 2012 04:19 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Burke at August 15, 2012 04:20 AM (9N3G1)
Mediscare works....ask us for the last 42 years....
We are setting the meme with likely voters, Barack will walk himself into body blows trying to pander nonsensically.
"er uh Y'all ask Paul Ryan why uh he held up the farm bill with drought relief!?"
//Obarka
um yeah now watch this:
"Mr. President I know you've been busy going to half full fund raisers for the last five months on Air Force One but Harry Reid has sat on that bill for half a month just like he hasn't sent you a REAL budget for three years now.... My friend Paul Ryan did his job he has a plan, and Mr. President I'd tell you to tell your friend Harry Reid to get to work and help the American people through these hard times or get the hell out of the way!"
BOOM!
He is totally cornered
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 04:21 AM (LRFds)
>> I do occasional lectures / screenings of silent films and will be showing Charlie Chaplin's The Kid at 7.00.
Cool. My husband got my 7 year old son watching some of his stuff.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 15, 2012 04:22 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Gran at August 15, 2012 04:22 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: Thorvald at August 15, 2012 04:22 AM (1V6Pv)
I fully expect there will be riots if Romney wins. I also fully expect there will be riots if he loses. My template is NBA championship playoff riots. Use this information with people who think voting for Obama will save the country from civil unrest. It is going to happen, no matter what.
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 15, 2012 04:23 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 15, 2012 04:24 AM (ogdab)
Posted by: Janet Reno at August 15, 2012 04:24 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Gran at August 15, 2012 04:24 AM (mw0FO)
He is totally cornered
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 08:21 AM (LRFds)
That would be so fucking sweet to see. The donks have so many albatrosses to use starting with the JEF that it should be an embarrassment of riches to draw from.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 04:24 AM (sz9nR)
What's the implication of the attack on Barry? That we are going to fix Medicare? It's beyond fixing. Barry didn't steal $700 billion dollars. He stole $700 billion dollars that doesn't exist. He stole inflation from one place to put in another place. It was an accounting gimmick only the CBO bought. If the 'mandate is a tax' ruling by that corrupt bastard Roberts didn't slay the ObamaCare Dragon, this won't either.
Roberts line of atack gels with this one BL.
What is reprehensible in what Ogabe did is he took from the pool of Automatic withholding ALL American workers pay into, that is a VERY REGRESSIVE TAX and the regressive nature is justified by it being "a personal benefit"...
You hit it in two phases, you stabilize the system for people "trapped in it" and then you use the theft to make the case to phase it out and "replace it with something better"....
Barack Obama proved Milton Friedman right....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 04:25 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Harry Reid at August 15, 2012 04:26 AM (fWAjv)
>>Today, just 72 hours after joining the GOP ticket, Paul Ryan is making a pilgrimage to the Sands' Venetian casino in Las Vegas to kiss the ring of Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino magnate who's already donated more than $35 million to Republican groups in this election.
Subtle.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 15, 2012 04:26 AM (SUKHu)
Why aren't we running ads about the Ground Zero Mosque, the 'try KSM in New York' debacle, Solyndra, Fast and Furious, or the usage of Executive Orders as Imperial Decrees? ><<<<<<
Because those are easily labeled as "partisan" attacks, save F&F and Solyndra.
Medicare, and fixing it is something that resonates with most Americans. Romney and Ryan's précis is that Medicare has been raided to pay for Obamacare, a program that also is disfavored by a majority of Americans.
What's not savvy about tying the two together? How many of these tiny nits can you pick in a 30 second ad?
Your campaign has to have a very few "big ideas." This combines several of them in a tidy package. I know you're not pleased with the candidate. Get over it.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 15, 2012 04:27 AM (JDIKC)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 15, 2012 04:27 AM (ogdab)
later, the organization realizes that it is worth investing in a ‘Europe officer’ (...)to secure bigger grants.
As the subventions become permanent, more ‘Europe officers’ are hired (...)the EU is in a position to call in favors....
Yankee bbeta version 189.5
ACORN, MMFA, sundry 501(3)(c) non-profits. ProGrant writers, interconnected board officerships and Wash. DC Patronage™
Posted by: 13times at August 15, 2012 04:28 AM (h6XiD)
>>Damn, I'm having surgery in a couple of hours, and I'm starving!
Best of luck to you. Hold on to your tonsils and spare feet. Or something.
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 15, 2012 04:28 AM (SUKHu)
The unprecedented aspect is the Democrat media being forced to defend their mask by making some effort to refrain from enthusiastically adopting the malignantly fabricated messages being sent by Obama.
R/R is brilliantly using decency and high-minded concern for the country as a wedge issue with the mushy middle AND the media. They are putting an inept Obama campaign on the defensive, a successful response to the Endless Distraction strategy of Obama. Another distraction, another immediate attack based on decency and high minded concern.
They cannot stop. When the ads roll out after the convention, they should continue.
But this should be preliminary to an evolving roll out of other, overlapping truths unknown to the public, all asserted under the idea "if you do not want to govern, we will". The three year lack of a budget, and the 90-0 rejection of Obama's proposed (unserious) budget, should be repeated endlessly. The public will now pay attention to ads of that sort, after being softened up by the current approach.
Romney is absolutely correct to frame Obama's campaign as clinging to power, so over his head, he needs to spew hatred and lies.
Thus, the 5-10% of mushies are persuaded.
Posted by: Tonawanda at August 15, 2012 04:30 AM (l62NP)
Posted by: Thorvald at August 15, 2012 04:31 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at August 15, 2012 04:32 AM (5H6zj)
And Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, but Bush wouldn't pardon Scooter Libby!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 04:32 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Tonawanda at August 15, 2012 04:33 AM (l62NP)
Posted by: Martin at August 15, 2012 04:33 AM (iEea3)
Posted by: Case at August 15, 2012 04:33 AM (GxTMf)
@ 114 - nice, Mama! No matter how many times I see The Pawnbroker, watching Chaplin examine a clock that a customer wants to pawn is hilarious!
I'd also suggest some of the silent Laurel & Hardy shorts, and perhaps some Buster Keaton as well (if your son can stand to watch a silent for about an hour, The General will make him a Keaton fan for life).
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 15, 2012 04:33 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: dogfish at August 15, 2012 04:34 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Burke at August 15, 2012 08:20 AM (9N3G1)
The same place they always get it from, the tax payer. If their county doesn't have it they'll go to the State. If it is a little "Detroit" it wouldn't surprise me that the whole thing was a kick-back scheme from start to finish.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 04:35 AM (YdQQY)
Not according to Lib mythology...remember the "Rich man can bear that percent easier cause it costs X to do business"....
I know how reality works, but we are no more tied to reality than the dems are we just use their tactic to do an honest job of fixing the mess....
The lib playbook says there are two trust funds, that sadly the poor pay more, etc etc etc
yeah well "okay"....
then why did choom steal 716 billion?
He is a piker
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 04:35 AM (LRFds)
That's the base, you build out from that.
You be as serious and to the point as you possibly can, nothing extraneous or tenuous.
The truth is a very powerful sales tool.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 04:35 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Gran at August 15, 2012 04:37 AM (mw0FO)
R/R is brilliantly using decency and high-minded concern for the country as a wedge issue with the mushy middle AND the media.
___
Yes and the donk clowns haven't figured out yet that they need to stop providing opportunities for Romney to project the aura of a leader and look so...presidential.
Preazy had to come up with faux trappings, the vero possumus seal and styrofoam columns. He had to use props to project leadership, in the manner of the freakin' tin pot banana republic dictator he turned out to be. In contrast to Romney, who projects competence as naturally as breathing. Thank God he is finding his voice.
Posted by: kallisto at August 15, 2012 04:40 AM (jm/9g)
Bradly Manning. mouldering in the brig, forgotten by his erstwhile leftist taskmasters.
Posted by: 13times at August 15, 2012 04:40 AM (h6XiD)
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 04:40 AM (Cnqmv)
I'm thinking a few democrats might just notice the absurdity of those claims and question the qualifications of the people making them. Not a lot will question them, but even if low single digit percentages say "wait a minute, this is so outlandish I just can't swallow it, I just can't", then Obama has a problem.
There is a point at which attacks become so outlandish and unbelievable that they backfire on the accusers. Obama has reached that point.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 15, 2012 04:40 AM (LxhAo)
>>I'd also suggest some of the silent Laurel Hardy shorts, and perhaps some Buster Keaton as well (if your son can stand to watch a silent for about an hour, The General will make him a Keaton fan for life).
Thanks. They watched _The Rink_, I'm told.
Me, I showed him some Tim Conway skits after he was shuffling around and falling to make us laugh!
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 15, 2012 04:40 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: RWC at August 15, 2012 04:41 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Thorvald at August 15, 2012 04:41 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 15, 2012 04:44 AM (MrM2k)
But people do know that gas prices are too high, food prices are too high, the jobs market sucks and half of their neighborhood is unemployed.
Posted by: Harry Reid at August 15, 2012 08:26 AM (fWAjv)
What's the point of telling people what they already know?
All of these items were headline grabbers (except Fast and Furious,
which really should be broadcast loudly by every right-wing media outlet
there is). People need to be reminded about them and see them in the aggregate.
What's the point of saying, "Unemployment is high!" over and over again? Are people going to forget?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 15, 2012 04:44 AM (uhAkr)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 15, 2012 04:44 AM (6H6FZ)
We're in a deep blue state and so will make arrangements to vote absentee, the voting needed to try to oust a rep that got into a usual red district and then voted for ObamaCare. Our preezy votes won't count for anything.
Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at August 15, 2012 04:45 AM (PH+2B)
If Joe brings the pure weapons grade batshit crazy, Ryan might be momentarily stunned into disbelief and freeze up.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 15, 2012 04:45 AM (LxhAo)
I am ultra-partisan, so I am biased, but I think that many in the independent/undecided group will stop and think about the obvious contrast between these two campaigns and conclude that the Dems simply must be making this sh*t up. Otherwise, we, as a people, have truly lost the concept of America and the Nation we once knew.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 04:45 AM (Cnqmv)
If Biden and Ryan actually debate, the questions will be on anything other than what would be considered Ryans strengths.
The moderator will also pick fights with Ryan and try to make Ryan seem combative and mean.
Also, Martha Raddatz.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 04:46 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: Filly at August 15, 2012 04:47 AM (flZ3r)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 04:47 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: maddogg at August 15, 2012 04:47 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 08:35 AM (YdQQY)
I have no doubt that they have insurance to cover lawsuits like this. They settle and let the insurance pay out. The premiums come from the taxpayers, but not just the local board that's settling. They are costing all the school districts a small amount of money in the future in order to be done with the hassle. I really think that the number of things anyone is allowed to insure against needs to be reigned in. They have no incentive to act responsibly since lawsuits and big payouts don't even affect them directly.
Posted by: f2000 at August 15, 2012 04:47 AM (39FoH)
Well, there is, but "Sorority House" has a whole different connotation.
Aaaaaand.... now to read the comments.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 04:47 AM (8y9MW)
You crank up the severity if need be closer to the election....
Barry O'bammy and the MSM was trying to sell the idea his 8.3% is an economic hotrod when he is on Camera slagging 5.1% and 375,000 new jobs in a quarter....
Obama is so addled he is using Long Tom atomic cannons out of the gate being held back by Mitt's 75mm Frog guns....
wait until Mitt starts in with HIS big guns....
Choom is toast
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 04:49 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: John "Reacharound" McCain at August 15, 2012 04:50 AM (qs9G3)
Posted by: RWC at August 15, 2012 04:53 AM (fWAjv)
If Biden and Ryan actually debate, the questions will be on anything other than what would be considered Ryans strengths.
What are they going to ask about? The Veep favorite Delaware address they ever lived at? Is there anything you can think of, besides asking the candidates to name their favorite part of being in the Obama administration that doesn't play in Ryan's favor?
Posted by: f2000 at August 15, 2012 04:54 AM (39FoH)
Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 04:56 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 04:58 AM (MMC8r)
Yep. Cut 32 lbs over the last few months doing that.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 15, 2012 04:59 AM (ksERZ)
As far as that goes, I actually have no problem with it. I don't think it's necessary, but neither do I think it's stepping over the bounds of what NHTSA should be doing.
My problem is that it is a very, very tiny step from setting standards for their operation, to requiring them to be in every vehicle. And, at that point, I say "no." And I expect it to be just a handful of years, if that long, before they try to do just that.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 05:01 AM (8y9MW)
Yep. Cut 32 lbs over the last few months doing that.
Just cutting out Soda (pop for you heathens not in WI) can lose you a lot of weight.
Posted by: GMan at August 15, 2012 05:02 AM (sxq57)
Powerball jackpot tonight is tempting me to take a drive for more tickets. Cash payout of $213.3 million tonight.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 15, 2012 05:02 AM (V2inB)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A group of former U.S. intelligence and Special Forces operatives is set to launch a media campaign, including TV ads, that scolds President Barack Obama for taking credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden and argues that high-level leaks are endangering American lives.
Leaders of the group, the Special Operations OPSEC Education Fund Inc, say it is nonpartisan and unconnected to any political party or presidential campaign. It is registered as a so-called social welfare group, which means its primary purpose is to further the common good and its political activities should be secondary.
But I thought that Barry personally parachuted into the compound and killed all the guards barehanded and then had a lightsabre fight a la Luke and Vader with bin Laden before killing him in a noble and dignified way and then gave him a proper Muslim burial. Allah be praised
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2012 05:02 AM (1Jaio)
But Ryan's very intelligent, has an amazing command of facts and figures (he must have an amazing memory), and I'm sure he's been doing some studying.
Posted by: lael at August 15, 2012 05:02 AM (GMdhU)
Posted by: toby928© at August 15, 2012 05:04 AM (evdj2)
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama has become one of the first modern day U.S. presidents known for enjoying a cold beer that is brewed and tapped right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Obama aides on Tuesday confirmed the small brewery during a three-day re-election campaign tour across Iowa. An official admitted the Obamas have their own alcoholic beverage made and kept in stock at the White House.
A laser like focus on the economy. Someone should tell him he's in the White House not a dorm. And I'm guessing that beer is a cover for choom.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 15, 2012 05:04 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 05:04 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: kawfytawk at August 15, 2012 05:04 AM (VIm97)
Allen, I expected better of you. Why should my "new" car be required BY REGULATION to have a device that has absolutely no benefit to me personally and adds to the price of the car?
If "black boxes" (insert electronic disclaimer here) are so popular with consumers, make them an option!
There's really no reason that we shouldn't all wear ankle bracelets either, I'm told they are quite comfortable once you get used to them!.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 05:04 AM (Cnqmv)
'all wear ankle bracelets'
Michelle has to wear waist bracelets.....
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 15, 2012 05:06 AM (V2inB)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 15, 2012 05:06 AM (ogdab)
Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 05:07 AM (MMC8r)
(That isn't a joke. That is a prophecy.)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 15, 2012 05:08 AM (6H6FZ)
Should be fun, but it looks like rain. Mostly a NASCAR crowd so I expect lots of drivers and team owners. Brian France and Mike Hilton are coming as is Rick Hendricks and Flex Sabatus. Lunch, it will be dry. Booo!
Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at August 15, 2012 05:09 AM (3ZjAP)
Tongue in cheek.
Way too subtle for working on undecideds.
Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at August 15, 2012 05:09 AM (PH+2B)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 09:01 AM (8y9MW)
This thing started as a proposed government regulation. It did not start as a "standard" to unify the automakers. What they have now is some auto makers are implementing and they are establishing the "standard" next month.
And the article said, down the road there will be a requirement to have them in every vehicle. Since there was no debate, and no law, there has been no public discussion on exactly what these things are going to do.
Will it involve the ability to live monitor or is only a "read only" after an accident like an aircraft box?
Will they be able to track where you are at real time using GPS technology via the box?
What are the consequences of someone disabling it?
These are questions that should have been answered before it was ok'd.
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 05:09 AM (YdQQY)
Yeah, I know. Also to make it illegal not to retro-fit older cars with them.
On balance I don't like them, but the current rule- simply setting standards for the devices, not requiring them, is (on its face) not an over-step.
Why should my "new" car be required BY REGULATION to have a device that has absolutely no benefit to me personally and adds to the price of the car?
Re-read the rule and my comment. Currently, the NHTSA is not requiring they be in any vehicle. They are simply setting standards for the devices, whether or not a specific manufacturer installs them is up to the manufacturer. If you don't want one, don't buy a car that has one. Not everyone is doing it (yet).
Like I said, though, it is a very small step from the current rule (which is reasonable, albeit not necessary) to requiring their inclusion on all cars- and that I would oppose. Vociferously.
So, once again, in shorter form:
* Standards for the devices, but the devices are voluntary: OK
* Devices mandated: NOT OK
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 05:09 AM (8y9MW)
President Obama has also become the only president in the history of the country to not have a budget passed during his term- in fact the only president to never receive a SINGLE vote for any budget he has seen fit to submit.
President Obama recently became the "golfingest" president in U.S. history, despite the country enjoying gdp growth rates of under 2% and real (U6) unemployment rates of 15%.
President Obama has become quite obviously the most abjectly failing imbecile ever to infest the White House, right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 15, 2012 05:10 AM (ksERZ)
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 05:10 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: nickless at August 15, 2012 09:07 AM (MMC8r)
I understand that since tattoos are all the rage now, DHS has a funded study on a combination microchip-tattoo in the works!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 05:11 AM (Cnqmv)
Unless subsidized by the government, black boxes would add about $1,500 to the price of a car and is a not so stealth way of keeping track of "the people."
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 15, 2012 05:11 AM (06lNq)
Posted by: USA at August 15, 2012 05:11 AM (6Cjut)
And I think they're a GREAT IDEAR!!!
Honk Honk!! WhooooooWoooooo!!!
Posted by: Crashie, the GM Recovery clown at August 15, 2012 05:12 AM (ksERZ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 15, 2012 05:12 AM (BushJ)
"Because those are easily labeled as "partisan" attacks, save FF and Solyndra."
Barry accused Mitt of killing a woman. I'd say it's time to go in the trenches.
"Medicare, and fixing it is something that resonates with most Americans. Romney and Ryan's précis is that Medicare has been raided to pay for Obamacare, a program that also is disfavored by a majority of Americans."
Medicare is also a program which we can't afford. Aren't we feeding into a delusion here that a) this $700 billion exists and b) that Medicare isn't a bloated, wasteful program?
"What's not savvy about tying the two together?"
Because there's an implication of future action here. The mantle of 'protecting' Medicare is not one we should take on.
"Your campaign has to have a very few "big ideas." This combines several of them in a tidy package. I know you're not pleased with the candidate. Get over it."
What are the big ideas here? We're going to repeal Obamacare to fully fund Medicare?
As for the candidate...look, Mitt won the primary and he's our guy. I accept that and I'm going to vote for him like I did in 2002. But at the same time, I don't trust him. Maybe I'm wrong about the guy - I was wrong about his VP pick and I didn't think he would win the primary. He's better than Barry, but we can't lose sight of the fact that "better than Barry" isn't enough given the scope of what we are up against.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 15, 2012 05:13 AM (uhAkr)
Cars don't crash that fast or into thousands of feet of salt water. They won't be separate "black boxes that are orange". They'll just be more space in the memory in the computer that runs the car. The standards are a fine example of "Technocrats gone Wild". The idea that you'll disable them easily somehow isn't plausible. ugh rewrite!
Posted by: DaveA at August 15, 2012 05:14 AM (DVJEd)
Posted by: Vic at August 15, 2012 09:09 AM (YdQQY)
This is the point behind the whole infrastructure of the regulatory administrative state. Before you are even aware of what they're doing, it is a codified regulation with a non-compliance associated penalty!
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 05:15 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: toby928© at August 15, 2012 05:16 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 08:40 AM (Cnqmv)
I'm still seeing red over that shit. Cheney should've gone into the Oval Office, whipped out the War Cock, and said "The golden shower stops when the pardon is executed". That will forever be a stain on GWB's legacy.
Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 15, 2012 05:16 AM (sz9nR)
* Devices mandated: NOT OK
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 09:09 AM (8y9MW)
If it is not going to be mandatory, why are standards needed?
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 05:16 AM (Cnqmv)
The standard is already established, it just hasn't been implemented. Just like the roll-out of any new regulation.
And the article said, down the road there will be a requirement to have them in every vehicle.
The article says the NHTSA is considering that as a next step, but they haven't (as yet) done it. Now, you know, and I know that "considering" means "figuring out how quietly they can do it," but they haven't done it yet. When they actually do it, I'll join with you in petitioning Congress to block it.
These are questions that should have been answered before it was ok'd.
Actually, I disagree. As long as the boxes remain voluntary, then those questions don't matter because you can avoid it by simply choosing a manufacturer that doesn't install them. Once they are no longer voluntary, those questions don't matter, because in any event they will be a violation of my 4th Amendment protections.
Maybe I'm just viewing this as a techie, but I guess I'm saying this: if you're going to have them anyway, there may as well be a standard of things like how they operate, what information they collect, how they store/format the data, etc. That way, the people who review their recorded data (from the government to your private insurance company) don't have to keep 47 different unique formats up to date.
As long as they keep it there (and, yes, I know they won't, but they haven't tried to over-step their bounds yet), then I don't see a problem with it. Once they do overstep those bounds, then they're in violation of the Constitution, and I'll be as vociferous as anyone in getting such an overreach barred by Congress.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 05:18 AM (8y9MW)
and that is why WE have to be the army of gnats by word of mouth to point out politely Obama's lies and character.
Romney is gonna use Black Republicans to hit Obama's base, all he will be left with is the happily non working and marxists.
This campaign strategy is PERFECT to see whether or not we are still the USA.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 05:18 AM (LRFds)
Heh. I had to check that, since I don't even remember my last post yesterday (work hard).
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 05:20 AM (8y9MW)
Artur Davis, ex Obama campaign co-chair, campaigning for Romney.
The visuals are priceless, in more ways than one.
Posted by: lael at August 15, 2012 05:20 AM (GMdhU)
WTF?
AFAIK they're not even "devices". It's just a standard for storing data the cars computer has anyways.
Posted by: DaveA at August 15, 2012 05:21 AM (DVJEd)
Most of us would crawl through hell in a gasoline suit to oust Choom, Romney has to convince soccer moms this guy across from me is crazy.
Luckily Obama did a few crazy things.
Transform Medicare into a premium-support plan in 10 years for all new enrollees, and then you cap the growth in federal costs of health care and make the curve much more predictable. ThatÂ’s most of the problem anyway.
Stabilize the system they hang their WHOLE case on and wean people from letting government have a cookie jar to raid.....
hell Mitt may have the mass to fix social security into a private or hybrid system if we let him grab the middle.
This is brilliant on RomneyÂ’s part and weÂ’d be fools to demand perfection if we can stabilize this entrenched system and use ObamaÂ’s overreach to do it.
We are using Democrat mythology about the nature of the program and ObamaÂ’s misuse of the funding mechanism for the myth to make the case for actually modifying the system closer to the myth and altering the system to use true market forces to trim costs.
The media noise of the last 12 years is the only thing that made this moderate bargain possible by enabling Barack Obama to make a mistake he would have NEVER tried if he had been actually groomed by the more moderate democrat wing at all.
Instead the emperor was told how beautiful his every idea was and Pelosi led him over a cliff to game CBO.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 05:22 AM (LRFds)
Waiting until the barbarians are at the gate, is not the preferred method of defense, and waiting until we are required to mount a Constitutional defense, rather than immediately questioning the necessity for this "standard/regulation" seem to be similar.
Posted by: Hrothgar (Unhinged for Romney/Ryan ) at August 15, 2012 05:23 AM (Cnqmv)
True enough. It would make sense to start unleashing this stuff closer to the election.
What worries me is the "it's the economy stupid" line of reasoning. That ugly f*cker James Carville was wrong about everything else in his life, why do we take that as gospel? Because Clinton won with a minority of the vote?
The implication of this line of reasoning is that all that matters is the economy. That isn't all that matters. Barry's done horrible, horrible things with far-reaching implications. Those things need to be addressed.
If we really are a nation where any excess is okay so long as unemployment is low and business is prospering, we are going to have tyranny.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 15, 2012 05:23 AM (uhAkr)
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Posted by: RWC at August 15, 2012 05:27 AM (fWAjv)
The problem there is that (as I said) the standard is actually defensible. You may not agree with the defense, but it's at least valid enough that you need to give reasons better than "I know you're planning to screw me over later." I could probably even come up with some, if I were so motivated.
I guess I think of it like ankle monitors, or court-approved GPS monitors. Certainly there is room for abuse, and they have been abused, but the government is not fundamentally in the wrong for using them. And when they over-step the bounds of the Constitution, they should be slapped down for it.
The difference between the Regulator and the Barbarian, besides the Barbarian's honesty, is that the Regulator actually has a lot of at least somewhat valid authority. That doesn't involve an axe.
Given that the NHTSA exists (it does).
Given that the NHTSA will be called upon to investigate traffic accidents (it will).
Given that there are already car companies using this technology (there are).
It then stands to reason that NHTSA would want a single standard for the technology to make their investigations easier.
Now, if you want to argue that NHTSA is, itself, unconstitutional (or, at least, extra-constitutional), then I'm right there with you. But that's not an argument we're going to win any time soon.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 05:34 AM (8y9MW)
http://tinyurl.com/covpcv2
If the slimy creature makes it out of Ecuador's London embassy, look for him in the charming "centers of tolerance" in places like Quito. It ain't midnight basketball.
Posted by: Thorvald at August 15, 2012 08:31 AM (1V6Pv)
Shit, if he ends up in Ecuador that makes it easy; CIA sends a guy down there who pays some street kids $100 and some beer, then the kids take a baseball bat to Assanger when he steps out onto the street. They take his wallet, it looks like a robbery, welcome to the Third World. Ah, if only I ran Black Ops...
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 15, 2012 05:36 AM (RD7QR)
to save the best parts of the system we have to prove Barack undermined the system.....
Barack weakened the socialist solution for senior healthcare....
Barack made the case against government as trustworthy piggy bank....
Romney delivered a devastating line on CBS.
"President Obama campaigned in Denver last election on the fact that Medicare was at risk of bankruptcy, and his solution is to take 716 billion from it to fund a risky scheme called Obamacare?"
Bark made the middle road the MINIMUM acceptable solution to the matter.
The rest is there if needed after the nomination.
The less hammering we have to do the more room for the push to fix entitlements....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 05:36 AM (LRFds)
Obama is not mentally exhausted. He is at the peak of his game.
Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at August 15, 2012 05:38 AM (ze9yk)
Yeah, I just spent $35,000 by accident. Happens all the ttime.
You Republicans, though, are the party of the rich.
Posted by: Bill Burton at August 15, 2012 05:39 AM (1Rgee)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 15, 2012 09:01 AM (8y9MW)
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Allen, the original bill had it as a requirement for all cars, that was only stripped once the GOP had taken the house, because the dems knew they couldn't pass it at this point in time. It will be back. Just another example of the feds telling me what I must buy.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 15, 2012 05:41 AM (Z6meB)
Posted by: toby928© at August 15, 2012 05:45 AM (evdj2)
Not because it would scare the shit out of evil men contemplating similar atrocities.
Not because it would offend the radical regimes he so loves to suck up to.
Not because it would be popular with over 90% of the American voters (although large numbers of his largest donors would hate the call).
It's simply the first time in his life he's dared to tell Valerie Jarrett no.
When you're a pussy, you have to console yourself with small moments of courage.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at August 15, 2012 06:08 AM (a5ljo)
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Posted by: steevy at August 15, 2012 06:42 AM (6o4Fb)
Mitt's saying that just using more words Steevy but don't YOU change....
we're all in this together.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 15, 2012 06:43 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 15, 2012 08:48 AM (qwK3S)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 15, 2012 08:50 AM (qwK3S)
(I get it -- it's like a frat-house, but with women being disrespectful party animals instead of men. There must be a word for that...) Yes there are several words that would describe Big Sis's friends behavior. But we don't use them in polite company.
Posted by: Buffalobob at August 15, 2012 09:00 AM (uG/DJ)
Posted by: snoop dogg's index finger at August 15, 2012 09:16 AM (Mj4Zt)
1) It enrages Obama and makes him even more mean and desperate
2) it detonates the image of Obama as the man of hope and healing, the bipartisan man who will repair Washington and end divisiveness.
The more Obama hits back, the bigger a jerk he looks and the more his 2008 campaign looks like a lie. Which means you peel off more of his 2008 voters each time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 15, 2012 09:30 AM (r4wIV)
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